RadixJournal - March 24, 2023


Why The Russia-China Alliance Is Good, Actually

Hosted by
Richard Spencer
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Kissinger Stalin Putin Boris Nixon
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6 minutes

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143.01

Word count

961

Sentence count

59

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1

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8

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In this episode of the podcast, I talk about China and Russia s recent alliance with the United States and Vladimir Putin, and why I don't think it's a disaster. I also talk about why I think China's relationship with Russia is a good one.

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00:00:00.000 So she said to Putin that nothing like this has happened for 100 years, and isn't this so remarkable?
00:00:11.400 And I think Boris said something to the effect of actually, Russia has never been a vassal state until now.
00:00:19.120 So it's been longer than 100 years.
00:00:21.380 And I think that's very accurate.
00:00:23.520 I was kind of reminded of Shue and Lay's comment about, I think, Kissinger, it's all legendary, but Kissinger asked him, what are your opinions on the French Revolution?
00:00:41.060 And he said, it's too early to tell.
00:00:42.820 I actually looked that up today because I wanted to write something up on this, but apparently Kissinger might have been asking him about the 1968 revolution in Paris, or revolution in quotes.
00:00:57.520 So it actually, the comment is less ponderous in that context, but it's still a very interesting comment, and it gets it, a kind of longer, much longer time frame, one kind of lacking development in a way in the Asian mind.
00:01:14.620 And I think it is kind of telling in that degree, even if it is apocryphal.
00:01:19.760 But I've heard a lot of these, there seems to be a common thread among people saying that this is a disaster, and how could this be good?
00:01:35.460 You know, China and Russia are linking up, and this is going to be bad for America. 0.98
00:01:41.600 I think it certainly is a change, a move away from a unipolar world that emerged after 1991, and I think it's definitely, at some point, this is going to affect the Chimerica relationship.
00:02:00.960 I mean, this came in coincidence with talks about banning TikTok.
00:02:06.520 Those are just two random data points, but I think it's significant that they were all happening at the same time.
00:02:13.600 And Blinken explicitly said that, you know, he didn't name the consequences, but he said there are going to be major consequences if Beijing begins assisting Russia in its war effort in Ukraine.
00:02:28.760 And, you know, ostensibly, you could say Beijing was there to promote their peace plan, which I read, and it's just this completely two-dimensional thing that is almost like a parody of what Asians would come up with, where it just said things like, we need to get away from Cold War thinking. 0.77
00:02:48.100 That was almost the thing that stood out and vague talk of peace and something, but there's nothing there.
00:02:54.460 I think the main thing is that you can imagine Russia becoming a vassal state on a whole host of ways. 0.70
00:03:03.580 They could start pumping gas, obviously, into China.
00:03:08.360 They have huge natural gas reserves, as we all know.
00:03:11.760 If they do conquer Ukraine, you've got a breadbasket that can go and feed China. 0.98
00:03:18.920 China can't exist without imports of agricultural goods.
00:03:22.880 That's a bit dubious, but I think that's a real thing.
00:03:28.000 And particularly if the Chimerica thing ends, I can see China kind of, you know, soft peddling any criticism of the invasion of Ukraine is basically a way of saying, well, we might do this to Taiwan and you guys, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. 0.53
00:03:44.080 We're not going to criticize Russia too harshly so that we don't get criticized.
00:03:49.140 I mean, there's a lot going on here.
00:03:50.720 There's just a vassal status of Russia in terms of people.
00:03:54.980 There's an overabundance of Asian males in China.
00:03:59.200 Maybe they're looking for some Russian wives. 1.00
00:04:01.240 I don't know.
00:04:03.780 There's a natural alliance, a geographic alliance as well.
00:04:07.340 But there's no doubt of who will be the big brother in this relationship.
00:04:12.460 I mean, after the Second World War, when Mao visited Moscow and, you know, Stalin basically said, I'm going to look westward.
00:04:21.360 You look eastward.
00:04:22.360 We'll run the world together.
00:04:23.720 They were all buddy buddies.
00:04:24.900 Clearly, the Soviet Union, it was the vanguard of history.
00:04:28.380 It was the engine of all this stuff.
00:04:29.920 It was the guy on top.
00:04:31.560 Now the situation is reversed.
00:04:33.520 But anyway, I guess what I would say just to kind of express my own personal feeling on this is that I don't see it as a disaster at all.
00:04:45.240 You know, these things wax and wane.
00:04:47.100 And you can go from, you know, Moscow on top in alliance with China, then there's a division of China in the Nixon era, and now China's on top of Moscow, and there's a division of the world.
00:05:00.120 I mean, all of these things can come and go, and whether they're good or not is irrelevant on some cases.
00:05:07.580 They just express the changes in population and economics, et cetera.
00:05:12.600 But I ultimately think it's a positive development, because it kind of shores up east and west.
00:05:21.640 It gives us borders.
00:05:24.420 I don't know why people are terrified about no longer having China under our thumb or something.
00:05:31.740 I mean, it's natural that they're going to grow up and leave.
00:05:35.540 I think the Chimerica arrangement has been pretty disastrous in many ways.
00:05:43.940 And I think a little bit of xenophobia is healthy. 0.99
00:05:50.860 So I just see all of this as positive, in fact.
00:05:56.820 And I don't think it's going to damage America.
00:05:59.540 I think in some ways this strong division of the world and clear boundaries are going to actually help us be stronger and have a better sense of ourselves.
00:06:12.720 So I don't think this is a good thing for Russia.
00:06:16.780 I think just being swallowed by the dragon is going to be a long-term devastating thing for Russia.
00:06:23.540 And they fear, you know, regime change by the West or losing the war.
00:06:28.980 Well, I would fear total dissolution, like literally being dissolved into a population of over a billion in this Chinese society. 0.95
00:06:41.420 I would not wish that on my worst enemy.