Xeno's Paradox
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Summary
In this episode, I discuss the white nationalist revival of the conservative movement, the rise of the alt-right, and the return of white nationalism in the face of all the evidence against it, and why I find it so infuriating.
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this is matt walsh very recently keep in mind that matt walsh opposed trump pretty vehemently
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in 2016 and also did all of the we're a proposition nation other nations are based
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on ethnicity race or creed we're different it is one of the great triumphs of all time
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that our forefathers had to first conquer an ocean in order to then land on a giant mass of uncharted
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wilderness filled with untold dangers and wild beasts and yes primitive warring tribes many of
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whom practice human sacrifice and cannibalism and who if they captured you would torture you for fun
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and rape your wife and children before killing you maybe eating your internal organs and taking
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your family as their property and yet in the face of those unimaginable horrors our forefathers and
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ancestors conquered this entire hemisphere and settled it and single-handedly dragged it out of
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the stone age and built from the wilderness the greatest civilization the world had ever known am
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i proud of that yes i am it's pretty remarkable how they have just become
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white nationalist at this point i become bitter when i see these things i mean i don't disagree with
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anything he just said although i i probably wouldn't quite articulate it in that manner but
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these are the conservatives who denounced all of this stuff that was said by other people and
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they were opposed to it opposed to it opposed to it opposed to it and then suddenly throsmosis or just
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slow marination it it it sinks in at some point and then they adopt it and they pat themselves on the
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back for inventing these ideas and it is just it's dishonest on a very basic level but it's just sort of
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infuriating when you think these people like they were listening to the alt-right they were probably
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listening to jared taylor and amran and whatever they were listening to sam francis they were denouncing
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them denouncing them denouncing them denouncing them and then just like turning on a dime not even
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reflecting on the fact that everything he just said really is going against what he was stressing
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five years ago and just claiming that they've made a new discovery i mean it's i i have to say it's
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pretty infuriating do you think it's not or do you think it's like a revival of nationalism because
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they need fresh troops for the front i don't think those are mutually exclusive well sure but the all
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right was anti-conservative that that is something the dissident right is not the dissident right are
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fans of jd vance and donald trump despite their name being dissident they're not they're actually
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mainstream i actually wanted to mention i wanted to actually address this tweet by bap one of my
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least favorite people um they are not dissident they are they're they're pornography for the mainstream
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right the alt-right was genuinely anti-conservative if only because the conservatives were attacking
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donald trump to such a degree like the dynamic in 2015 and 2016 was that national review cover
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against trump glenn beck matt walsh i can remember him everyone was furiously anti-trump and attacking
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him on the basis of he was a liberal he was a racist liberal who didn't believe in american exceptionalism
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that was the line michelle malkin who then became a griper mommy and has since disappeared
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it's just i guess it's just weird because you had this like anti-conservative movement animus and then
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you have the conservative movement rethinking itself and adopting all of these talking points it is a bit
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infuriating i have to say and it makes me want to move away from those talking points i mean i i guess
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another thing that i i guess that generates some ire in me is that like all of that stuff i don't
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really disagree with anything matt walsh just said but i have assumed that since i was like 12
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you know and we've gotten in a spaceship and we've hit hyperdrive and we're like in another galaxy
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and matt walsh just sending us a radio signal of like did you know that we're conquerors baby like
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we're it's not a proposition nation it was made by whites or whatever and it's like we fucking get
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it like we got that 30 years ago like you're behind your light years behind where we are and yet you're
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telling us something as if it's some revelation i think you guys would get bored with me if i just
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went on here every program and said by the way did you know that whites created america you know it's
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just like i think it's almost more interesting to contradict those notions or like say like did whites
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create like that's almost more interesting because it makes you think as opposed to just
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asserting this shit that everyone fucking knows anyway go on it's almost worse because it's not a
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natural progression he it's not like he came to these ideas uh because he's like discovering them
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and he's excited about it he's known about this probably since he was 12 too yeah and he is just now
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comfortable because he thinks the atmosphere is right so he's going to take advantage of it so
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it's kind of he's it's a very wormish thing to do and that's that's what makes it even worse and he
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and then for him to claim claim it because that's obviously what he's doing with his mannerisms he's
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kind of like you know this is a de facto thing that i'm telling you now and you know yeah he's
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disseminating it like it's coming from him when it's not and yeah it's it's it's it's like some guy
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at a conservative gathering who's giving a speech on the eternal joys of monogamy but then but now
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it's like 1 a.m and everyone's a little bit drunk and most of the people have gone and they're just
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some a few people late there and he's sort of hitting on this girl like suggesting that they have
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a three-way with her and her friend or something like the time like the atmosphere changed and thus he
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goes into this other mode but previously the atmosphere was very different so he's going to
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lecture on monogamy and c.s lewis or some something like that so it's just sort of fundamentally
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bullshit it would be more interesting to give a lecture on the joys of three ways that would be in a
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way more honest more true to himself and more daring and edgy in that setting but instead in that
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setting he does this and then now now that it's 2 a.m and everyone's tipsy he's you know uh taking
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his swings up at bat see if he can hit a home run i just said that the term they use for that is code
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switching right like you'll get that from leftists often is like oh this person talks i don't know
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in ebonics when they're speaking to a black audience but then they code switch and will speak
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academically to a white audience and that's almost a sign of inauthenticity yeah
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here's the other one i wanted to look at so her name is sarah stock i now follow her
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and you know people are joking that she's a lauren southern wannabe or something but i see her as a
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lauren southern upgrade like i'm glad lauren southern that's been replaced like like she's
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better looking than lauren southern and lauren southern was annoying as hell and lauren southern
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when she first came on the scene she was doing all the sort of neocon stuff like there is no rape
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culture in the west that was a famous thing where she held up a sign so it's like what are you
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complaining about feminists you live in the west i don't get it whereas sarah stock is just saying
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i'm xenophobic and proud which in my mind is just sort of more refreshing if if more brutal
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i doubt she's a russian asset as well so there's that too they're both canadian blondes but sarah
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stock's better so i don't see why we should be criticizing her you think that's better for americans in
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general like xenophobic nationalism is better i should have a coherent culture everyone should
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be a part of the same culture we should have assimilation which do you get to choose what
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the culture is we already have a dominant culture based on european and christian values and identity
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that is the dominant culture it's rooted in european identity white so so your argument is that has
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been the dominant culture just to be clear we're not letting people assimilate to that we're saying you
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keep your culture and this is why our culture so divided your argument is that trump is good for
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those who want a a dominant white european culture i mean that is what america is it's rooted in european
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identity and christian values but it's sort of not don't you think like i i get that but isn't that
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isn't stating that covering over the fact that the puritan founding of the culture was an attack on
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existing cultures people left england as an attack on the anglican church which wasn't hardcore protestant
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enough for them and you know whatever their criticisms that's what it was about it was a new world it was a
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new jerusalem john winthrop imagined american exceptionalism and a new jerusalem literally
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before even setting foot on north american soil and so it actually was you could say an advancement
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or you could say an attack maybe those are sort of loaded ways of thinking about it but it it was a
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separation from europe and i think so much of the identitarianism that i would talk about say five or
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seven years ago was almost a larp in itself it was like oh no see we're expressing european identity
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or something like that but maybe that's actually not true to the puritan streak at the very heart of
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american identity it's just something to think about at the very least yeah i think you're getting at the
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roots of the sort of proposition nation idea it really does go back to the puritans and it's not
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something that was sort of created later on by liberals as a radical version in the way that you
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know a lot of white nationalists or adjacent people say and maybe it actually is relevant to point out
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that sarah stock is canadian because canada of course didn't have a revolution against a european
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power they have always they have always clung to this sort of europe junior and also england junior and
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also kind of france junior by the side identity you know just recently a few days ago mark carney was
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speaking to i believe emmanuel macron and he proudly said you know china is the most european nation of
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all the countries outside europe he said this with great pride and it's something that you that does
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reflect a real core part of canadian identity in a way that it doesn't for american identity
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america was also in part founded not just as a utopian new england puritan state but a place to
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just make money and to just extract the wealth for your own purposes that's why the jamestown colony
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was brought into existence there was a kind of a lower version of that where people that couldn't own
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land in europe or were basically indigent came out to the frontier and they just wanted a lot to call
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their own in uh western parts like whether it be the scotch-irish or the germans and maybe that's where
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the sort of america as a european nation comes from that from that sort of frontiersman attitude
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versus the religious utopian or the i'm here to make money for me myself and i thing and it's
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like there are these three spirits that are contradictory and that worth each other yeah
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doesn't it seem like liberals do this thing where they push back against conservatives who try to
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integrate cultures into the american culture as like a form of segregation it's like a clever
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subconscious form of segregation where they encourage the other cultures to keep their culture
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and to strengthen it and stay within it as a way to to have enclaves that they can stay in yeah it's
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it's like a to rescue these cultures from the cheesecake factory basically because assimilating to america
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basically means you're going to have a mortgage in the suburbs and eat at the cheesecake factory
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at the mall and it doesn't mean that you're like waving the flag of norway and
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you know being like a rad trad or something and i think there's a liberal desire a romantic liberal desire
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to maintain african-american culture onto its own as something sort of sacred you could say
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and native american culture and people from southeast asia like we want to maintain
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your non-generic white christian identity we want to maintain it from being thrown into the meat grinder
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of being a generic american and shopping at costco on saturday and loading up
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you know with big box junk that you don't need and in some ways they kind of protect their own
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culture too is like the white liberal culture so it's a white wasp culture which they're protecting
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it does create more of a segregation there it's kind of like you know how women will give bad advice
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to other women they'll do it subconsciously almost because they don't want them to succeed it's like a
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strategy in some ways yeah that's kind of how i see the dynamics of liberalism when they whenever
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conservatives say we need to forcibly integrate what they really want is they want vivek to wear
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the cowboy hat right like that's they'll say yeah you know wear the chaps and the cowboy hat and show up
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to the rodeo with the rest of us you know uh get yourself a a girlfriend you know an american girlfriend
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and like they're trying to do a real melting pot it's like melting pot times 10 and whereas liberals
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are subconsciously creating enclaves so i have noticed the the bap sphere are attacking sarah good
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sarah for reasons that are sort of inexplicable this is bap speaking in general it's bad to have
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positions you agree with do the viral in formats and arguments that are obviously wrong and easily
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disproven or mocked the whole model of raising awareness for a mass popular audience is bad
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this series was hosted by jubilee doing that yeah this series was hosted by jubilee which also
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has been shapiro and knowles daily wire fake debate okay that that's irrelevant
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was to artificially boost this girl influencers as new faces of the far right yeah i mean
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she criticized trump in that debate with sam cedar where she said i'm to the right of donald trump he's
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not like me you know he wants to bring h1b's in so they can sense that this woman is more or less
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part of the fuentes sphere or something like that and they don't like that what they want
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is for them to be the pornography of the mainstream what are you even talking about bap you're the
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one who who's gay and jewish and talks about bronze age rape gangs and used to tweet about tnd so what
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are you even talking about you're so much worse than sarah stock it's not even funny sarah stock has
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not done any of those things she's attractive and down to earth what are you even talking about you're
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good for mainstream politics and she's not what the fuck her argument in favor of xenophobia i sort
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of disagree i guess with her you know articulation of american identity but you know what i say is less
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appealing to like normies than what she just said so what in the fuck are you talking about and this
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is what it is their game is to be the pornography for mainstream republicans and so it's okay to drop
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in bombs it's okay to talk about like eugenics in some extremely abstract manner it's okay to say that
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people are degenerate or dysgenic or whatever when you're just talking about like a portlandia
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antifa member it's okay to talk about bronze age rape gangs because it's totally irrelevant and
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ridiculous and so you're operating as a kind of pornography for mainstream trumpists who are not going to
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really do anything that matters and ultimately will maintain america's pro-israel stance that's what it's
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about and if you don't understand that reality these arguments don't even make sense
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like obviously sarah stock is a better representative of the far right than these faggots
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even they would have to acknowledge that that a pretty white girl is a better representation
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than jewish homosexuals to win over the right i mean surely even they could grasp that reality
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so is this the southern strategy it's just a different it's just a different aspect yeah it's
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so that jd vance like when usha's asleep jd vance can go to his twitter like he's you know
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coming honey i'll be in there in a moment but he can like read captive dreamer and be like yeah
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those degenerate fucks we're gonna kill him one of these days okay i'm coming honey
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it's just all that's what it is it's pornography for the mainstream right so they can do all the they
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they they can talk like in the streets they can sound like the religious right and in the sheets they
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can read that and they can do all the same crap that the conservative movement's been talking about
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they can wage wars in the middle east on behalf of israel but then at night they can jerk off to like
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homosexual bronze age rape gangs that kidnap women and drag them back to the
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uh tribal cave where god knows what can be done to them yeah it's just all fundamentally
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october 7th was probably the most bronze age thing that we've like seen
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oh yeah you know like taking these like you know not that they were taking them as war brides but like
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taking these women were trucks across the across the border
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that that that german jewish woman who was taken from the music festival with her legs broken and
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thrown into the back of a pickup truck yeah that's what it was like we might have a nice
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vision of what a war pride would be like that's that's more like what it was like
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the reality is not what it says and you know bronze age mindset yeah exactly
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exactly force but of course they they oppose that october 7th is terrible yeah like that's like the
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literal enactment of their putative ideology they were against yes yeah bap would spend and
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his people would say oh no no if you support that you're a third worldist sand negro it's like
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right wait it's these you know hello you could say borrowing bat's terminology that you know
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hamas paraglided out of the gazan longhouse and took all these war rides but no of course it's not
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what we're supposed to say exactly that's leftism yeah i think what they called it was a resentful
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slave morality chimp out essentially that was their like reframing of it
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yeah they again it's that what we're talking about before they just they'll like arbitrarily
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call upon certain terms so like if if you if you're in opposition to trump you know we're going to call
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you resentful slave morality or the woke right yeah the woke right all of this stuff yeah but they don't
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mean it they they just call upon any of these terms to make sure that they and only they can operate
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as as right-wing porn it's kind of uh dovetails and something i was thinking of today with this
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it relates to something in trump's governing style as well this kind of we think about his rhetoric
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versus his actions in regards to immigration in particular perhaps other things too there's
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this kind of performative cruelty that ultimately ultimately substitutes for meaningful action
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you know it's right now he's doing like you know he took these hundreds of people from venezuela
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and sent them to some apparently horrible prison in el salvador where god knows what's going to happen
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into them kayla is using them as slave labor yeah yeah and like well who exactly are these people what
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have they done it's not really clear that they belong there you know and kind of but on a general level
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it kind of parallels the controversy over family separation and you know quote unquote kids in cages
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in the first term you know there's no ultimately you know legal immigration stays the same deportations go
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down there's just this performative cruelty that trump indulges in to i guess you know to appeal to
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the resentment of his base and uh i guess make them think he's on their side he's hurting people that
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they hate whatever yeah but ultimately the big picture it's not things aren't really changing or perhaps
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yeah yeah i mean do you think that the liberal media is lying about
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these multiple cases of people who are seeking refugee status legally and then getting sent to
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bukele's prison or like some guy who just had some weird tattoo and so they thought it was a gang
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tattoo and again the conservatives are just sort of laughing at this but that's the ultimate
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resentment like that's a that's really what nietzsche well he was talking to be fair here nietzsche did
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was talking about slave morality he really meant it as like slave morality but you know i'm thinking
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of that sort of will to punish and how suspicious nietzsche was of people who were a little too obsessed
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with punishing the criminal and so on like what what does that reveal about yourself what does it reveal
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about like your empty life in the suburbs that you're watching images of hispanics getting humiliated and
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getting their head shaved and then thrown into a van shipped to god knows where where there'll be a slave labor
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or probably you know be brutalized in prison or die and yeah it's just it's porn and what does that say
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about you that you're watching porn how many people watch porn as an aphrodisiac to get excited like you and
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your hot girlfriend watch a little porn before you go at it now that's probably a significant
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uh percentage of porn watching are couples like that or whatever but i would say that easily 95 if not 99
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probably 99 in fact in the same way the violence porn you're not getting any if you're watching porn
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and like again you're like you are disempowered in your own life and so you're jacking off to the notion of
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like brutalizing javier who is here on a student visa yeah the violent porn of javier you'll like
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is the person who will never harm a fly or is like looks at his laces when like a black guy walks by on
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the street but yeah hoping he doesn't assault him javier is here on a student visa he dared to participate
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in a pro-palestine rally and he ended up in an el salvadorian slave colony