110. W1NNING Ft. Tim Grover
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1 hour and 44 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of The Realists, we are joined by one of my very good friends and mentor, Tim Grover. Tim is a long-time family member and business partner of mine, who has been one of the most influential people in my life for the past 20 years.
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told my teacher dumb bitch i'm gonna get millions watch this in the project living
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spoke it till existence mo changed to 50 got mo cost than did i only weigh 180 but my watch
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cost 250 what's up guys it's jandy priscilla and this is the show for the realists say goodbye to
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the lies the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality
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guys today we have a full-length show that i am super excited about had the show on the books for
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a few months now and it's been one that uh all of us here are looking forward to uh got sal got dj
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uh but most importantly we've got one of my very very very best friends and personal mentors um
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tim grover what's happening brother what an honor brother i got a chance i'm speechless i am you guys
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game first time at this facility it's you can't describe it well lily cannot describe it's one
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of those places where you just got to come and see you got to come and see you got like lily be like
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disneyland and charge people and just charge a little admission to come in and don't donate the
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money to charity but this is you can't it it's beyond description you guys didn't miss a detail
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you didn't miss a detail well that means a lot coming from you brother yeah we wouldn't be here
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without you that's for sure it's that's for sure thank you but i don't really believe that i i know
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both you guys uh i know what you're made of i know what's on the inside everybody sees what's on the
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outside but to be able to go and see beyond what an individual is just on the outside and see
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what the ability to overcome where you guys came the first building was impressive and knowing the
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history of where you guys started what you guys had to overcome and what you still have to overcome
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that's what people look at people look at oh man they did so much what you guys have done in the
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past is nothing to what you guys are going to do and what you where your goals and aspirations are
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and how many individuals lives that you've actually touched you know people say this all the time that
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there's companies out there there's individuals out there that are life-changing and that word to me is
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used too frequently it is it really is you guys are changing lives you got you guys you guys really
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really are changing lives not only with everything you have here but with the the charity work
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everything that nobody really gets to hear about and see it's special it's special you should honestly
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everybody in here i don't do this too often but you guys should acknowledge yourselves you really did
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you really did because most people won't most people won't well i mean dude look man it's just what
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else we're gonna fucking do you know i'm saying gotta keep working gotta keep moving and you know
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you know as well as anybody it hadn't been it's not been it never is easy it's never easy and um
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you know i i i feel fortunate to have you uh in in our lives because dude honestly and i've told you
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this and i've said this on the podcast that first book you wrote man it fucking saved my life
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you know i'm saying i felt fucking crazy um and when you're when you're a success driven individual
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like most of you are that are listening um the world isn't built for that you know the world's
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built for mediocrity and you know all of you guys out there who are struggling and who think you're
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crazy and who think like you know uh people don't understand well they don't understand that's that
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you're exactly right and one of the things that has happened to me over the course of my business
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career that has made a massive difference was discovering tim's book relentless um and and
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coincidentally we're here to talk about today his second book which is amazing and what i want to do
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is uh kind of go through man and just talk about winning and and what it takes and you know who's built
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for who is it and and uh talk about those things man because as as as you guys may or may not know
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tim um has a long career of coaching some of the the most elite performance uh performers in the world
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whether it's business or whether it's athletics um and i'm talking about michael jordan i'm talking
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about kobe bryant we're talking about d wade we're talking about tons and tons of high-level
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business executives i'm one of them sal's one of them um and bro i'm just super excited to do the
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show and talk about this it's an honor and it's an honor and the best part is of it is i get both you
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guys here that that's that that's that was important to us that was important to us and
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you know obviously it's not my show but i am the guest today i did request a third family member to
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join us at some point but we'll see what happens later on yeah tim wants tim wants a big gym in
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here but i we said right before the show um we will not get anything talked about but you would
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laugh yeah you would definitely laugh so do we want to learn about how to kick ass or do we just
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want to fuck off maybe maybe we'll talk about kicking ass and then fuck off all right so dude you
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know it's been what how many years since the second first book it's gone eight years eight years eight
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years and i know people have been really really really hungry for the second book yeah you know
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what andy it was very important to us you know everybody wants to just keep coming out with
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information and it's the same information over and over again what we didn't want to do is we didn't
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want people to read this book and say it's just like relentless right yeah this book is actually it's
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a it's a continuing talk of relentless so you have the relentless mindset
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and now it's winning winning is in all of us you know what you just what you just said is just but
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winners don't think normal they don't think normal you have to everyone says think outside the box
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you guys built this facility when you guys started first form you didn't think outside the box there
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was no box there was no box and when you're when you're in the chase when you're in that chase for
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greatness when you're in that chase to win the ability to block out all the noise everything that
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any you have to be kind of like you have to be in the studio this has got to be like where your head
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has to be the only things you hear are the things that are most important to you you don't hear all the
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clatter going on outside you don't hear this person you don't hear that person you don't hear that
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you don't hear that person and that's what winning is about that's what winning is about and winning
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it's there all the time every single day you have an opportunity to win don't you yeah every single
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day we everybody in this room every single day you have the opportunity wins they're there and when
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you see those wins and when you capture those wins they bring you a little closer to what's next
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a little closer to what's next a little closer to what's next but most people don't even want to
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get in the race no and dude i think that you know we've talked about this this is one of our favorite
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things to talk about is the culture of winning has been diluted tremendously um you know over your
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career i mean think back dude when you started man like how the difference is between how many more
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people wanted and seeked a life of high performance versus now where it's like it's almost villainized
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where it's like oh well if you want to win there's something wrong with you or if you you're selfish or
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you're uh this or that and the thing is guys that you have to understand the world fucking needs winners
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like you have people have to win if people don't win how do other people know that you can actually win
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you know what i mean and so people my biggest thing for people is you know you guys have to
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understand that winning is a fucking noble thing no matter what your progressive teachers might say
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or what you might read in cosmopolitan or what you might hear on fucking you know the latest talk show
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dude winning is a noble thing and and the reason it's noble is because it inspires people to be better
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themselves when they see you win you know you might not know who's paying attention you might not
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understand who is watching you or taking notes from you but when you win somebody else is going to win
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because of that and lots of times multiple people most of the time multiple people are going to win
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because of that and this is the biggest thing that i struggle with trying to communicate winning
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especially to like the younger generation right because they've been growing up in the school system that
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says everybody gets trophy everybody uh you know feelings uh or what matters most not the actual result
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and and that's just not the truth and the one thing that has been you know that i'd like to hear your
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take on is is why why is it that you know why do you think it is that people value feelings more than
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winning now and also what is the difference between the winner's mindset versus the someone who's
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like is it can it go together or can it not you can have listen you can still have feelings and win
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but you're and we talk about this in a book on winning your mind has to be stronger than your feelings
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your mind in order to win your mind has to be stronger than your feelings all right when you make those
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tough decisions think about every decision that you've made and your feelings were stronger than your mind
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it's a fucked up decision every time every every single single yeah every single time all right
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when you make decisions from your mind they're tough decisions people are going to get hurt
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they're not going to like the truth you're going to have to hold that you're going to have to hold them
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accountable all right so it's so much easier to deal with the people's feelings you know everyone
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says listen tell me the truth right well what does when you happens when you tell somebody the truth
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it makes them more emotional yeah all right which brings out their feelings which leads to what
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less results yeah it leads to the cloud that it clouds their logical factual mind and keeps them from
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the ability to make the right decision which dude if we're being completely honest this is what's
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going on in the world today right antagonize antagonize antagonize anger anger anger hate hate hate
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divide divide divide emotion emotion emotion oh now you got to make a decision you know and dude that's
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just not how it works and everybody's looking for these steps you know i had another guy in the mentor
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space and when he found out we were reading a new uh the new uh when we were writing the new book he
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says dude i've been telling you this forever you got to have steps you got to have steps people want
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people want steps are there really five or ten steps to winning are there really five to ten steps to
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greatness are there really five or ten steps to success those steps are infinite yeah those steps are
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infinite and plus you can't even see those steps you don't even know if they're there if they're
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constantly changing you don't know if they're going to shift you don't know you sometimes you got to
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just you just got to know that step is there and you got to be willing willing to take it
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everyone in here works out i don't care what kind of shape you're in go run a flight of steps
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that shit is hard yeah that shit is hard well i think the emotional intelligence to to winning is an
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important evolving cycle right when you talked about earlier about where we're at in business
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you know we understand that we have a fucking huge fight in front of us but the experience
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and the emotional you know we used to respond emotionally and we talked about last week you
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know gamble and facts now we we have experience of setting emotion aside and realizing all right we
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have a fucking we have a plan we have to attack this plan and part of that plan i say you're good
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at setting the emotion aside yeah well yeah there might not be no but that's also why we work well
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together right andrew's highly emotional and i'm i'm very non-emotional i've learned to remove emotion
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but where andrew's emotion comes through the truth comes out right from his side and allows it really
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allows the playing field to be played right i can see we can see what's going on and i've learned in
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my business experience and in my relationship and in leadership when i learned to remove emotion from
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from the table mine included theirs included and deal in facts we can get to where we want to go a
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lot faster and the faster i learned to remove that hurdle out of the way you know are you going to
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remove their emotions no but you can help them teach them to remove their emotions which helps them win
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and i think you know that's why the mind plays such a huge role in setting up the table for each
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individual winning specifically in a corporate environment right you got to teach them like hey this is not
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what kind of environment a non-corporate badass kicking fucking we are not in a corporate
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environment here we i use corporate environments we're growing and we get mad at me but it's true
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that's a fucking dirty word here bro no but but it's true because it you know it gets hard man like
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you know when it was three or four of us like we were fucking highly competitive people so we were in
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we're in the battle together like all fucking day well you scale to 300 you got to teach those people
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what it takes to be successful and i took a note because you said it you know the fear to not play
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the fear of losing the fear of what happens if in my experience has been you know the detriment to a
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lot of my friends you know a lot of my family members they're so afraid of fucking losing that
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they never give them chance themselves a chance to win right and could you i mean you want to talk
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about a step like step one if you want to hit a home run you got to walk your fucking ass up to
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that batter's box all right how do you do that so you know what here it is you talked about that
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all right every athlete i've ever dealt with all right and we've talked to everybody in this room
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all right we've all when you guys when you sat down and put this blueprint together for this facility
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you got to admit there was a little bit of fear but there was no doubt
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there was no doubt so when you step up into that plate when you take that lat you when you take that
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last shot everybody's got it everyone's got a little fear there's you know about hey how's this
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gonna what's the end result it's gonna be what the but they don't have doubt and that's the huge
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that's the huge that's the huge difference listen you can jump out of a plane you know i've done this
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and andy said i'm not i'm not i'm not doing i'm not doing this you know i'm i don't know how many
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feet up i'm in the air the guy throws a door opening and no don't push me out i said don't fucking touch
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me all right i throw myself out and yeah there was some fear but i had no doubt that everything
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was gonna i was gonna i was gonna figure i was gonna figure things out when you have this going
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on here yeah you got you got fear of the next step but there's no doubt in your abilities of what
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you're going to be able to do and when you don't have that doubt it allows it keeps your emotions under
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control and you keep going and you keep going and you keep going you need that fear because that fear
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pushes you beyond what you would normally push yourself what you would normally push yourself i
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think fear helps you to move dude it gets you to move it's i'm sitting here thinking i'm i'm thinking
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in terms of you know nowadays you know i'm not playing any competitive sports but i'm thinking in
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terms of like maybe a speaking engagement you know i'm saying like people are like dude how the fuck do
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you do that well i just fucking do it and i know that i'm good enough to go out there and and it's
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either gonna be or it isn't gonna be and demand six figures and demand six figures for yeah but dude
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that's what it is though like i i don't go up when i'm getting ready to go speak in front of 10 000
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people and say oh man i i don't know if i can do this like i go up there and i'm like i know i could do
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it but you know i might strike out too and if i do fuck it you put an a swing on it i don't give a
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shit like that's the thing it's like but the but that's the thing that the the if you had doubt
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you wouldn't go out you wouldn't get you couldn't get on that stage you couldn't get on that and that
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fear is yeah i might strike out yeah i might strike out but guess what there's another speak
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engagement you get another turn it you get another turn it back that's it yeah and that's that's i was
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thinking about this just last night i was thinking about you know the difference between people who can
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do things like that that are difficult for most people right like most people will will will say
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public speaking is worse than dying right and like i i always think that's like funny because i'm like
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dude what what how bad can it really be bro like you don't say like i burn myself down in front of
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people lots of times before i ever got paid a fucking dollar to go speak in front of anybody
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well so what's the what's the uh so you get a what are the feelings you get from uh uh from public
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people uh public speaking you know if you get you know you're nervous you're hot you're cold you start
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to you start to sweat you know you get a you start to shake a little bit well at least you get to be
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alive with doing all those things when you're dead you don't get to do any of that perspective
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well i learned i think fear you know for me fear helps me more in the in the preparing state than
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it does in the playing state yes you know fear of the what if is like if i don't fucking train yeah
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i'm gonna get my ass beat you know i mean if i don't know the knowledge and i can't spew it right
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and so fear always i try to use as a motivator a motivation tool to keep me that's what it is
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that's how that's how you but most people fear it paralyzes them it paralyzes them and because it's
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just what you know what you guys are saying it allows you to stay in your safe it allows you to
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stay in your safety net you guys could have been like you know what hey we got a great thing going
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on over there we got a nice little business we're we're okay we're doing good our numbers are good
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everything everything is it's it's good it's good all right but the fear of not doing more and the fear
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of like what we're actually leaving behind and how much growth we still have that propelled you said
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we're doing this yeah dude i think for for me in that regard with with push it forward with the
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business you know i i've just i mean dude think about it in terms of athletes how many how many
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gifted athletes have you seen and i'm obviously not talking about names or anything but how many
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gifted athletes have you seen that get to a point we talk about this with with sales reps they get to
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a point where they you know they might have made the league they made mlb they made nfl right and
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they have the capacity to be a hall of famer but in that we dude even a lay person sees this you know
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we have all these great athletes that have great potential to be maybe the greatest of all time if they
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were hungry to do that but we don't see that we don't see these people materialize and sal and i
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talk about this all the time but i think you know i really do believe that you cannot maintain you know
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there there's dude in business if we were to say hey we're good let's just stay right where we are
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it's only a matter of time before one of these other guys behind us fucking eats us up and there's
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there is no you know even in sports or whether whatever it is it there is no place that you get
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to where all of a sudden everything's comfortable because if you find yourself in that comfort space
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bro you're about to lose you are about to lose and you just don't see it coming you know and and
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dude we see this with companies dude i can't tell you how many companies i've seen who have gotten
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pretty good traction dude i could name 10 off the top of my head in the last three years i'm like oh
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dude you know exactly what i'm talking about oh these guys they were hot oh these guys where
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the fuck are they now it's only been a fucking year that's all you got like dude so we we the
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comfort that we get from having a little bit of achievement keeps us from being what we actually
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could be exactly you know listen i got a thing in the book winning throws a huge party in your honor
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yeah because you won then the next time it refuses to give you the time or place yeah it's like it
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locks the key on you you said that one thing what did you say you said one that that dude was so good
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and it's so fucking true but i know that most people don't get it and i know that most people
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don't get it because i posted the motherfucking quote my story and nobody reacted it was like two
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people and you were one of them and i'm like all right well i got two motherfuckers to know what
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that is yeah and like dude it said something i can't remember the exact quote but it said
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you know uh similar what you just said like winning throws the party but the point that stuck with me
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was you wake up alone leaves you with the tab and you wake up right it does bro i hear it as a winner
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is a lover who takes you to paradise all night and then you wake up alone that's a fucking fact
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dude that's fucking true and dude people what you got now but people don't get that they don't
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understand that they think that like once you win like dude i hear this shit about me all the time
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they're like bro what because dude obviously i'm fucking high strong high energy and i'm intense
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people like dude what are you what are you what the fuck's wrong with you bro you got nothing to
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worry about and like if i stop and think about it for like three seconds i'm like man you're you're
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right i don't have anything to worry about but i'm worrying so i don't have to worry right you know
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what i'm saying like you know what you're not here's the thing and you guys are you're not worried
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about yourselves no more about them yeah you're worried about you're worried about the 300 people
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out here and all the legionnaires you have that are relying on you to continue to worry about them
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because they don't understand what worrying is yet they're still in that state they're still in that
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state where they use their heart you guys have come to a place now where you're not heartless
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but you learn to use your heart less well dude i think i actually think and i'm curious as to what
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you think about this but i actually think that that is the actual way to care like i see that as the way
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of caring right like a lot of people like to do this thing where they're like oh tim give me a big hug
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here bro you know it's okay uh you know i love you no no dude if you really love someone you teach
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you how to fucking win yes and and dude that requires a little bit less heart sometimes it
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yes it does what list what did i do when you were in there i told it yeah i said hey turn the camera
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off i gotta talk to my boy real quick yeah all this is all wonderful this is all great yeah but i need
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to ask him a question yeah now that was the most important that was one of the most important things
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i need to ask when i just saw him i said hey turn that camera off let me holler at you for a second
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yeah well i think you know part of winning is surrounding yourself with people that can that
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will do that to you you know what i mean they can have that conversation truthfully truthfully
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from a good place like hey bro um that's not helping you yeah you know from my point of view
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that's not helping you um this will help well and i think that's where confrontation gets a bad
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a bad rap you know like confrontation doesn't you don't have to be a dick you know but learning to
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speak the truth and hold your ground especially for people you care about is an important factor in
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team winning andy what you just said earlier about these companies disappearing winning has
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no loyalty to you no no the fuck it's the one night stand bro that is a misconception people think
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that yeah what he has no once so now i'm a winner automatic yeah no bro this what day is it oh it's
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fucking thursday you won yesterday cool yeah like go write it down somewhere right i'll see you friday
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morning yeah the quote that sticks with me every time you know talks about that i always i
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always you know life's like a tree you're either growing you're dying like the second you stop to
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grow it means you start to die that's the day like whatever day you choose to stop showing up stop
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fucking working stop committing stop fucking you know excellence the second you give in you're on
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the downward path it takes one instant to turn a champion into a loser yeah well and and i mean you
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see this all the time like when there's a because i know you're the contract year guy but you know
00:25:29.580
when you see a player going into their contract year we talk about athletes with talent when it's
00:25:33.440
contract year arbitration year they're busting their fucking ass oh yeah they're fucking you know
00:25:38.000
nuts in all day every day the second they sign that money deal you see who's got it who doesn't
00:25:42.720
yeah but see dude like i'm not attracted to dudes like that like like people in general who who want
00:25:48.160
that kind of winning like that is not my vibe that's not winning like no it's not it's not it's not
00:25:53.040
you're doing it for the fucking money or for the prize or whatever i i i know you can be beat pretty
00:25:59.720
easily you know what i mean like how easy is it to beat someone who who is only playing for that
00:26:05.840
contract oh listen yeah it's not about the glory it's not about the payday winning is about the
00:26:12.260
obstacles and the challenges that's what that's what keeps you going that's what keeps keeps you
00:26:17.180
saying hey i want more i'm going through this that's what that's what winning is about you know
00:26:22.400
everyone like yeah you get this feeling from winning you get this feeling from winning and i
00:26:28.180
don't know andy i think this might be your thing um that said uh what is it about the fun winning is
00:26:35.840
more fun than fun is no no that was ed so when ed was here ed said ed said uh winning is more fun
00:26:42.800
than fun is fun okay yeah but fuck that was good shit getting to winning is not fucking fun no it isn't
00:26:49.780
fuck no all right getting to winning and that's what everybody wants everybody thinks getting
00:26:56.100
getting to winning should be fun because you don't see this you don't see what it takes to get to what
00:27:04.580
it gets to that part and if you stay in that fun stage too long when you get to winning lose
00:27:11.640
say that again yeah you're gonna lose i i gotta quote it's a 24-hour rule man look at saving
00:27:17.300
you fucking see saving go up there after he wins a national title motherfucker's pissed off
00:27:22.300
yeah we got work we got work to do yeah it's a great fuck you guys good job guys i'm going back
00:27:29.560
to work yeah yeah yeah there's a great quote by bobby knight and it's it's just when you guys said it
00:27:34.140
it says the will to win is not nearly as important as the will to prepare to win everyone wants to win
00:27:38.900
but not everyone wants to prepare to win preparing to win is where the determination that you will win
00:27:43.000
is made once the game or test or project is underway it's too late to prepare to win the actual game
00:27:48.160
test or project is just the end of a long process that's getting ready in which the outcome was
00:27:53.060
already really determined so if you want to win you must prepare to win once you prepare to win
00:27:58.580
winning is almost anti-climatic dude but that's i think that perspective difference is really the
00:28:05.520
difference like dude i mean you've been around literally the top of the top of the top of the top
00:28:11.500
and i've had i've been fortunate enough to be around a few people like that myself
00:28:14.840
here's what i noticed that they all do every single one of them they all look at it the exact
00:28:21.100
same way that i've been describing it to you guys for fucking years every day is a chance to win and
00:28:26.960
so they look at it like this like okay you've got 30 days right and you've got your event on day 31
00:28:33.100
they're going to prepare let's just say but really that 30 days is like three years but let's just say
00:28:38.480
it's 30 days for sake of argument how many days of those 30 days up to the win did you win and it's
00:28:44.600
basically almost like a it's like a you're like ticking up the the hill right and then you get to
00:28:51.320
the little the climax and that's the game and you just kind of do what you've fucking been doing
00:28:56.260
only on the game day on a game day yeah and you get a little bit more people clapping and then guess
00:29:01.300
what happens at the end of that fucking win you go way down here and you start over and that's where it
00:29:06.000
goes and like dude that's how i everybody i know that's a champion like big time thinks like that
00:29:10.920
they think like that they think what a win a day when did i win today right did i win the day before
00:29:16.760
that and i'm gonna win today i'm gonna win tomorrow and and and dude that's why it's anti-climatic
00:29:22.100
because it's like dude well no shit i won back to the grind yeah one of my high school coaches he
00:29:27.800
always told us games you know high school friday night lights games are not won on friday
00:29:31.760
the one in practice on monday tuesday wednesday thursday right you just show up friday and see
00:29:36.520
what happens i mean it's the same i agree yeah but i think people i i think the people i think this
00:29:42.840
is a big difference between the average person who's out there trying to win who sees it as like
00:29:49.440
oh i've got this event in 30 days and you know hopefully i'm ready yeah yeah you know and i'm
00:29:55.780
gonna work pretty hard to get there that's not what champions do dude champions systematize the
00:30:01.820
the fucking whole process i won monday i won tuesday i won wednesday i won thursday i won friday i gave
00:30:07.320
everything i could today i give everything i could tomorrow dude when michael jordan was coming into
00:30:10.940
practice dude he didn't come in and and and fucking start doing 360 dunks he started with fucking chest
00:30:18.680
passes yep and you start every day with the basic shit i don't know man it's a big difference
00:30:25.060
between how like most people think and how true proven achievers consistently win listen yeah go ahead
00:30:37.040
takes you to hell it takes you to hell and if you quit
00:30:43.060
that's where you'll stay so what happens is it's a never-ending trip back and forth you know i use
00:30:53.360
this adage in the book sal you you've been on this you play but you played out baseball at the highest
00:31:03.340
bus takes you to a game or it takes you to the world series it takes you know michael jordan to the
00:31:11.280
chant to the championship the bus has one sign on it you know it says this is whatever arena it's going
00:31:16.880
to you get there after you win the champ after you've won that game that sign changes
00:31:25.420
that bus is taking you back to hell because if you want to taste winning again
00:31:31.700
that's what it's going to do it's exactly what you said they take those little steps
00:31:36.780
they get there then they're back then they're back and then they're back over here then they're
00:31:40.880
back over here again think about when you guys built this when this when this was done when this
00:31:46.600
thing was i mean it's not even done done yet but when everything was in there you walked in here
00:31:51.500
and you guys looked around you probably celebrated for how long it took you to walk through this
00:31:56.020
facility well we fought first no yeah we did yeah we did we got a fist fight but what happened
00:32:03.420
really what happened was what actually happened was we had everybody down here and everybody walked
00:32:10.540
through and and everybody it was so overwhelming that nobody said shit so him and i were like fuck
00:32:15.280
dude did did they not like it text message on the way home i said dude like we did the guys not like
00:32:21.020
it i felt i felt bad and we were sitting there talking to each other like fuck man maybe maybe we did
00:32:25.860
something wrong like these guys don't like it because they were all super quiet and it was the opposite
00:32:30.460
but dude the thing the thing about what you're saying that i love the most is that this is how
00:32:37.560
this is this is how you win consistently over the course of your life guys what we're describing here
00:32:44.200
this is why you don't see tom did we see tom brady celebrate after the super bowl fuck yeah
00:32:50.340
motherfucker got fucked up it was awesome yeah it was good job tom you deserve that what's he doing
00:32:55.840
today what's he doing the next day i'm sure the next day he worked out hung over as fuck but
00:33:00.280
i guarantee he got it done guaranteed and dude this is why you guys don't see people who are
00:33:06.760
consistent winners celebrating their wins the way that that you all think they should celebrate
00:33:12.560
because dude everybody who's winning at that level understands that that was that was no different
00:33:18.240
than going to a fucking dinner that was no different than going to to your house for dinner like oh i got
00:33:24.960
to make some uh mashed potatoes made some turkey made some steaks or whatever went over there we ate
00:33:30.180
the fucking dinner today we got to figure out to eat again and that's what winning is about dude
00:33:35.080
like and and this is why you guys don't you know people who don't win what do they talk about well
00:33:42.400
they talk about that fucking mvp shit that they got back in high school yeah you know i'm saying yeah
00:33:47.000
fucking 37 years ago no one gives a fuck bro what'd you do since then well it's interesting thing too
00:33:52.140
it's like because you say it often i'm sure you say it more beautifully than i do but there's a
00:33:56.660
certain point where you expect to win because you know the amount of work that you put in to get
00:34:01.340
there there's no other outcome that can come out other than me dominating this other than you know
00:34:06.160
anybody great that doesn't expect like absolutely expect to win i don't like i i don't i don't know
00:34:12.880
anybody no that's that goes into the thing about the fear and doubt there's no doubt yeah you know
00:34:17.460
there's like they don't lack confidence i i'm telling you the one thing that that every single
00:34:25.600
individual i've trained at the highest highest highest level they don't lack confidence you know
00:34:33.740
kobe kobe used to always say he goes he in one game he missed nine straight shots
00:34:40.920
all right and he ended up the game he was like ended up going like for two for 21 and they asked
00:34:49.860
him why'd you keep shooting he goes because if i would have stopped shooting the team would have
00:34:55.040
known i lost confidence i didn't lose my confidence i didn't lose my confidence all right what happens
00:35:02.640
to those to mediocrity to those athletes that aren't really they're champions for a moment
00:35:09.560
they do lack confidence but the greatest the best of the best tiger woods doesn't lack confidence
00:35:15.280
michael jordan didn't lack confidence kobe didn't lack confidence dwayne didn't lack confidence
00:35:21.140
lebron doesn't lack confidence those individuals the young lady what's her name tt eclair you get her
00:35:28.900
on ask her right now no dude i ask her if she lacks confidence you couldn't get that fucking far
00:35:33.600
without it you can't get you can't get you can't even get in the game without that you know and
00:35:38.220
that's something that you guys have to understand too when you're listening to this you better figure
00:35:43.980
out how to build the confidence in yourself because you won't get to that level you won't even get in
00:35:49.120
the fucking game until you have that self-confidence that's not a that's amateur shit it's like
00:35:56.560
motivation motivation is entry level i mean like literally it's a it's entry level you're like how many
00:36:02.180
times i laugh at this because you get so frustrated over this you're like how many times do i got to
00:36:09.220
keep saying the same shit over and over and over and over again i'm like dude like seriously like i
00:36:14.700
just and you get this you look away from the camera you get your head on you it's like and then you look
00:36:19.760
away just like how many times do i keep got to keep telling you the same thing over and over and over
00:36:26.860
again some people are just satisfied with entry level yeah dude they're just they're just they're
00:36:33.480
happy to be in the game or they're happy to identify themselves as a winner when they're really not a
00:36:40.320
winner yeah like oh yeah dude i'm an entrepreneur i'm a this i you know because it's been glorified now
00:36:45.180
yeah you know what i mean there's a big difference between uh you know between glory and uh and grit
00:36:52.140
you know what i'm saying oh there's a huge difference and you know we talked about grind
00:36:56.540
earlier and everybody talking about i'm in the grind i'm in the grind well what happens when you
00:37:01.860
if you if you were to take something and you kept grinding it what would happen turns into fucking dust
00:37:08.060
it turns into dust all right so when you look at our have you guys ever done a party here we have
00:37:16.940
an ice sculpture or something you ever done so okay the ice sculpture start it's a piece of it's a
00:37:22.120
piece of block what do they do they grind away the unnecessary they take away the unnecessary to
00:37:27.300
form what you guys are looking at all right what did you guys do to become this company you grinded it
00:37:36.600
into the form first form of the way you guys wanted this company to be you took away the unessentials
00:37:46.520
you took away the stuff that wasn't needed you grinded it until it took form in the way of what
00:37:53.600
your vision was and now this is what this is what happened so people just they just grind and they end
00:38:01.960
up grinding into nothing you got to grind with a purpose and understand winning wants to know what
00:38:08.340
form it's going to see you as it wants to know what form it's going to see you as otherwise it's going
00:38:15.240
to turn you into dust when i think going back and correct me if i'm wrong andrew because
00:38:19.760
when andrew talks about this book saved his life it's important it's important to understand what
00:38:25.280
that means because when you go through that process and it's not as glamorous as you think
00:38:30.360
and everybody tells you it's this way but they're not really putting nobody fucking gets it yeah nobody
00:38:34.880
fucking gets you think you're crazy no you are crazy because nobody fucking gets it by definition
00:38:40.460
you are the outlier like dude i've tried i try to explain this to people all the time
00:38:46.460
you know like i might get moody or i might be snappy or something and somebody's like well what's wrong
00:38:51.700
i'm like bro look i could explain it but you won't get it you won't get it and and you'll think you get
00:38:57.000
it and you won't and that'll just get me more irritated so let's just fucking stop right here you
00:39:01.940
know why they're gonna say they get it because they just don't want it they're like i don't even know
00:39:05.940
what the hell this guy's talking about so let me just let me just agree with accepted yeah let me
00:39:09.560
just agree with them to end your quickest way to end the conversation just agree with the person
00:39:13.860
yeah but but i think you know as a as a as a youngster coming up like you know you you you crave
00:39:20.540
this whatever this is and and it's what you need to learn to do is winning is actually falling in
00:39:25.720
love with the process of winning and the big picture win comes through falling in love with that
00:39:29.820
process because falling in love with the process is what creates the perpetual cycle of winning and
00:39:35.400
that's preparation of preparation which is the fucking crazy factor because now your friends
00:39:40.020
judge you for you know dude why do you care so much why do you fucking show up so much why do you
00:39:44.620
work so hard here's what i'll say to that why the fuck don't you that's right that's right why don't
00:39:49.040
you fucking care enough why don't you fucking work a little harder why are you happy with where the
00:39:53.500
fuck you are why is it that all these motherfuckers get to judge people like me or like you or these
00:39:58.680
other fuckers like dude look man the world's not set up for fucking high achievers bro that's why high
00:40:04.160
achievers are special so you guys out there who are like on this journey i would highly recommend
00:40:09.240
you start reading relentless and then move into winning because first of all you're gonna feel
00:40:15.920
alone that's part of the deal it's not negotiable it's not an option there's no like fucking speed
00:40:22.420
cheat hat pass that you can buy to get around that feeling like dude none of your friends are gonna get
00:40:29.060
you probably your family's not gonna get you uh certainly facebook is not gonna get you and
00:40:34.820
instagram and all these other things dude who gives a fuck it doesn't matter that shit's irrelevant
00:40:40.780
what all that matters here is can you get yourself in a position to what sal's talking about where
00:40:48.360
you love the preparation you love the grind you love the that day by day routine you guys see what i
00:40:55.700
post on instagram i post the same motherfucking thing literally every fucking day do i do that
00:41:01.000
because i'm not creative no i'm doing that very intentionally i'm doing that because i'm showing
00:41:06.560
you that winning on a huge fucking scale is monotonous as fuck and if you haven't picked that up from
00:41:13.600
watching me post yet you ain't got it bro okay this is the point so when you can train yourself
00:41:20.040
to love that day to day to day routine like sal says falling in love with the process
00:41:26.780
motherfucker you ain't really gonna love it like a lot of you guys hear this shit and you're like
00:41:31.220
uh well i don't really love that nobody fucking loves it nobody fucking loves it we fucking love
00:41:37.880
what it produces and dude falling in love with the process that's it's it's kind of a misleading term
00:41:44.920
and so i don't want you to like like dude nobody look dude when i'm out in the squat rack and i feel
00:41:50.120
like i'm gonna fucking throw up and i can't see straight because i got sweat in my eyes and i'm
00:41:54.500
fucking for over 40 years old my ass is touching the ground i feel like my hips are gonna fucking
00:41:59.080
explode you think i love that shit no but i like the way i look afterwards i like the way i feel i like
00:42:05.100
the way i can perform i like all the other shit that comes from it so if we can train ourselves to
00:42:10.380
understand what it is that we're that we love about it like dude right now literally today right
00:42:19.140
now as long as i execute today tomorrow i will literally be the best i've ever been in my life
00:42:25.980
because i'm at the highest physical conditioning i've ever been at i'm in the best place mentally
00:42:31.260
i've ever been at and so if i execute today i know tomorrow i can literally fucking get on the
00:42:37.400
internet if i want and say this is the literal this is this is my win i fucking won but no i don't
00:42:42.400
i'm gonna get up the day after that and i'm gonna keep going and keep going and keep going listen
00:42:46.180
peep the language of winning is totally different it's totally different you know every i asked all
00:42:53.280
my athletes you know what what is the language what what is what is winning in one word mean to you
00:42:58.940
and you know everybody wants to give you the the cliches of all this you know oh it's fantastic
00:43:04.180
it's this it's that this is what they said i said describe winning in one word and these are the
00:43:11.840
the competitors the best of the best in business athletics whatever uncivilized it's hard it's nasty
00:43:24.300
it's dirty it's dirty it's rough it's unpolished it's unapologetic it's unforgiving
00:43:33.480
pretty accurate all right and then you know what kobe said he said winning is everything
00:43:41.620
that's accurate too okay you're gonna add you go out i guarantee go out and just in your next
00:43:52.600
meeting make sure this doesn't come out ask the guys their death tell them to describe winning in
00:43:58.800
one word to them and see what they say none of this will come up none of this will come up and this
00:44:06.800
is what this is this is what else will come up though because like i'm living i'm like yeah that's
00:44:10.300
pretty fucking yeah that's right yeah like i mean dude yeah but that's because you've no i get it
00:44:17.560
yeah yeah i got a question you know in regards because you you you hit on this earlier what is
00:44:25.040
the difference between confidence and ego confidence means you can deliver ego means you just talk
00:44:29.620
but you got to have both i don't care who you are listen ego is about the individual
00:44:35.120
all right confidence is about yourself and the team all right but every badass i know
00:44:41.460
has an eagle yeah dude you got to have that ability on the inside of your voice
00:44:48.820
to like dude ego gets villainized and i think um unfairly and and untruthfully um you know right
00:44:57.540
now in the feel-good world of of bullshit that we all live in um you know everybody likes to say
00:45:03.700
oh the guy's got a big eagle well no fucking shit he does look at all the fucking shit he did
00:45:07.400
he earned that big yeah that's what i'm saying he earned that he earned that like it's a bad thing
00:45:12.440
right but like i'm gonna tell you and you could speak to this um what's going on in your fucking
00:45:17.500
head when you're walking up to a baseball diamond a plate and when the dude's throwing 102 fucking
00:45:21.660
miles an hour i'm gonna shove this thing up your ass yeah if it's anything other than that you can't
00:45:28.720
even walk the fucking 50 feet from the dugout to the fucking plate yeah and like dude that's the
00:45:34.300
same thing when you speak in front of a big crowd i was trying to get to like dude if i sat there and
00:45:38.380
fucking told myself oh well fuck dude i don't know if i can do this blah blah blah you know i would go
00:45:44.500
up there and look like a fucking clown but you know what i tell myself i'm the baddest motherfucker that
00:45:48.800
ever fucking that these fucking people will ever fucking see you're not ahead and i run out on the
00:45:53.200
stage and i fucking do it yeah and dude that anybody who plays at a high level sport business
00:45:58.400
anything bro you could see it on their fucking face when they start to talk to themselves like that
00:46:03.680
i'll give you i'll give you an example of a of a story so back in the day um this you guys got to
00:46:11.860
be a basketball historian a little bit but will everybody by knowing here alan iverson came into
00:46:17.280
the league oh yeah big michael jordan fan big michael jordan fan crack talk about crack yeah big michael
00:46:23.840
jordan fan first nba game all right against uh against the chicago against the chicago bulls
00:46:29.480
so iverson you know they're both starting alan comes up mike i'm a big fan of yours
00:46:34.140
all this other stuff michael says welcome to the league you little bitch
00:46:37.980
that's fucking funny dude that's what he said he goes welcome to the league and with a like that
00:46:46.140
voice i'm about to destroy you oh yeah i'm about to destroy and then afterwards yeah you want to
00:46:52.180
have my shoes we can talk yeah right now what is that's confidence and ego talking right now i had a
00:46:57.780
coach going back to the 100 mile an hour thing so i had a coach his name was gene tennis and i think
00:47:02.060
he's got six world series rings i think he's one of two people have six world series rings and he was
00:47:05.640
our he was our hitting instructor so she's a big yeah she's a base she's a she's a big baseball he's
00:47:10.600
a great man i loved go ahead person yeah yes yeah yeah but gene tennis was a great man i and honestly
00:47:16.960
he's the first i didn't learn to hit until i was almost finished like i almost broke my leg
00:47:20.360
and i remember we had a guy throwing 100 miles an hour and uh you know the buzz around the clubhouse
00:47:26.160
you know fuck this guy's those fucking heat you know and you know you until you see 100 miles an
00:47:30.800
hour you don't recognize you don't realize how fast it is fucking it's it's humming and uh and
00:47:35.680
everybody we're in bp and he'd come back there not you know i've always i've always had you know ego
00:47:40.460
confidence whatever you want to say even you know he could tell i was like you get a little nervous
00:47:44.700
getting in there you know first time against it and he's like you know what i'd say sal against
00:47:48.580
people like that i wonder what that motherfucker's thinking about me because he knows i'm gonna
00:47:53.500
fucking drive this thing right up his fucking ass and i think in my head fuck yeah i got the wrong
00:47:57.260
fucking mindset that motherfucker's thinking what happens when i face sal for seller right so
00:48:01.040
i never forget sitting on the back of the cage he's everybody's talking about that picture and gene
00:48:05.380
gene tennis six world series rings he's like no fuck him he's thinking about me yes today he's in the
00:48:09.800
clubhouse thinking about me and that's that you know it's hey yeah welcome to the league little bitch
00:48:13.980
you know i must have the biggest ego ever because that's how i always fucking think no but it was
00:48:17.740
such a great like i'm like you should be fucking worried that i'm that i'm even thinking about you
00:48:21.360
like like these other companies that like you know take their little jabs and shit at us i'm like bro
00:48:27.140
do you know what the fuck you're doing like do you know that i will fucking i'm i'm fucking sitting
00:48:33.240
here right now knowing that i'm going to kick your fucking ass everywhere and you're making you're
00:48:39.120
smiling at me when i'm behind the cage you know i'm saying like dude i love that shit but that's a
00:48:43.740
that's a mindset yeah i think you you know you have to learn to adapt it you know confidence and ego
00:48:48.060
they they can go together in my opinion and i think having a having a good strong ego
00:48:52.200
with confidence is a fucking is a great recipe we talked about listen i'm not going to share the
00:48:58.440
story we talked about over breakfast all right oh yeah all right so i was like wait what you gotta
00:49:05.280
tell me there wasn't some ego involved in that of course of course all right and your confidence to
00:49:11.260
go get the end result that's right so so tim can i actually so where does arrogance come into play
00:49:16.120
arrogance me arrogance is me arrogance means all you do is talk there's nothing there's nothing
00:49:23.040
behind what you can do listen if you're going to go out there and say hey this is what i'm going to
00:49:27.300
do you got to go out and do it and that's what people don't want to do because they listen there's
00:49:33.500
a battlefield that's going on in your mind every single day there's a battlefield that goes on in here
00:49:39.620
all right and if you can't win that battlefield if you can't control that battlefield that's going
00:49:47.440
on you got no chance you got no chance to handle anything else because there's bombs exploding in
00:49:56.220
here all the time every single day that are telling you you can't win that's a terrible idea what the
00:50:05.220
fuck are you doing here's one for you guys this cost too much
00:50:11.580
right how many people when you got when you look that if you did share the numbers with somebody
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they're like the hell you doing yeah this cost too this cost too much if that bomb would have
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exploded in here they won we wouldn't even have business yeah that's one andrew taught me a good
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lesson when we were first getting in he said i don't give a fuck what it costs it will be the
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best no that's it dude i can deal with someone saying i can i can 100 that comes from my that's
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okay you want to talk about ego that's ego i can personally handle someone saying i can't afford your
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shit what i can't handle and what makes me mad is when people say you're you don't make the best
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shit or your shit's not good like that's that's i can live with that i can live with okay i can't
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afford it but i'm not going to live with hey you ain't the best it ain't worth it yeah right exactly
00:51:02.340
and i mean dude that's a business lesson for a lot of you guys a lot of you got dude speaking of which
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you you've you've i would like to hear your take on the parallels between like i mean is there much
00:51:15.560
difference between these guys who are you know the kobe's and the and the jordans um well i think
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that's fair there's only one kobe and one jordan but is how's the parallel between high achievement
00:51:30.240
on on on the sports field versus in the business atmosphere because you've done both it's the same
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really it's the same yeah all right they got the same mindset all right listen you might not be
00:51:43.680
competing against another team or something out you know where everybody's on t but you guys are
00:51:50.980
competing every single day without a playbook sometimes you don't know what the other team's
00:51:55.400
going to do you know did any of us have a playbook for the pandemic no did we no one had no one had a
00:52:03.440
playbook we were just talking about this yesterday all right we call good audibles yeah right but you
00:52:07.820
know that that's that's what happened so you look at what michael uh what mj's accomplished
00:52:13.380
off the uh off the basketball court still the number one selling shoe he outsells the top five
00:52:26.460
nike endorsers by himself combined combined yeah combined combined all right he's also has a pretty
00:52:39.140
successful tequila business i know you're in a tequila thing he owns a team that's worth almost
00:52:45.940
two billion dollars now which he bought for 200 million or something yeah all right um he's part
00:52:56.100
he's got a part of the sports gambling industry things that you just you know things that you just don't
00:53:03.280
know about the cop the competitive thing doesn't stop when kobe won an oscar wrote children's books
00:53:14.460
what wanted to take over hollywood dwayne fashion line commentator on tnt got his own game show
00:53:23.980
if you stop competing you're gonna do something destructive dude when you're at your worst oh
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yeah when you're at your worst it's a fucking natural disaster for sure when you when you when
00:53:41.540
you're when you're one of the reasons you've been obviously besides you know you're taking care of
00:53:47.660
yourself you're 75 hard you're doing all that other stuff you're you're in a great place to win
00:54:04.820
well i think you see that a lot in sports or you know is the second that athlete's career is over
00:54:12.300
and they don't have it anymore what happens to them they go that's why people are like well
00:54:17.000
you know how many people try to buy our company yeah a lot i'm like get the fuck out of here
00:54:21.780
literally just had a conversation got something for me to do you know what i'm saying like talked
00:54:26.700
about this yesterday yeah i mean dude but this what do you but this is what happens this is what
00:54:35.560
when they decide to sell they sell they have a no compete for about whatever two three years
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but no compete is up they're like second form let's go
00:54:48.300
they're like they're like here here we go and what is their what is their objection
00:54:54.200
their object is to like we're gonna fucking take we're gonna go kick your ass again
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yeah i'm so wired to compete that way um you know at some point in time you know it's not going to be
00:55:06.440
my turn somebody somebody else's turn yes and i think so heavily like i know how much i love to
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compete you know because we actually have this argument all the time andrew says he hates to lose
00:55:15.620
i love to win i'd be actually curious to answer your question because it's like you hate to lose and
00:55:19.660
force you to win or you love to win and for you know can you chase the win but i wanted i have to
00:55:25.680
have a challenge and i've never really i've never owned a boat i've never competitively deep sea
00:55:30.540
fish but i love it i have this fucking dream in my head like okay well when it's not my time here
00:55:36.460
i'm gonna buy a fucking boat and i'm gonna compete in that big fucking money tournament i'm gonna kick
00:55:40.240
the fuck out all those guys i gotta think that way because i'm so wired to compete that i just it's not
00:55:45.480
about the money it's about the competition and the challenge and the new journey right it's not about
00:55:50.480
the payday it's not the pay if you do what you're supposed to do and you do it at the highest level
00:55:55.940
and you win every single day you capture and you capture at least one win every single day and it's
00:56:02.020
out there it's out there the the financial gains will come it will come you you said it perfectly
00:56:10.840
i could you guys could sell and i'm pretty sure if you guys did it would give you a decent decent
00:56:21.620
yeah i give you a little pocket change where literally you would have to do nothing else it
00:56:27.360
would destroy both of you now we we literally said we would be back in business the next day yeah
00:56:32.680
you guys what you guys yeah if you guys sat around if you guys were idle for a month of 45 days you
00:56:39.600
guys would literally kill each other i can't go five fucking i can't go here thinking honestly like
00:56:43.660
no no bullshit i'm not just saying this to like sound i i like it's hard for me to understand what
00:56:50.300
the fuck everybody else does like i can't even relate to it no i'm serious like they're relaxing
00:56:56.060
dude you're with me every day yeah do you do you not think that's true no i look at people and i'm
00:57:00.320
like what the fuck do you what are you doing like what do you what do you do they don't know well
00:57:05.300
that's what i'm saying they don't they do what do you do you you go you get up you go to work you go
00:57:09.540
home what the fuck do you do just like what's the mission what are we accomplishing what are we
00:57:15.320
trying to do like how empty is your life without that and because to me dude that's everything
00:57:21.940
it's everything isn't the thing that they because they portray it as like they're so happy like oh
00:57:27.140
like yeah but that's but dude talk to those motherfuckers right not one of them is miserable
00:57:31.220
yeah bro happiness is an equation we talk about this all the time it's discipline plus purpose plus
00:57:37.880
gratitude equals happiness right those you got to have all those things you got to have the discipline
00:57:42.660
you've got to have a purpose which is what most people lack most people say oh my purpose is my
00:57:47.560
kids motherfucker every single human on the fucking planet can have kids you need a bigger purpose than
00:57:53.920
that we need that that would be no difference than saying well my purpose is urinating and breathing
00:57:58.660
and taking a shit yeah no that's not your purpose i give a great example of this people say this all the
00:58:04.520
time you know man showing up is half the battle showing up is none of the fucking battle
00:58:12.320
dude that's just this feel-good idealistic bullshit man yeah just like you got i showed up for work
00:58:22.260
today dude great fucking job i'm like dude i gotta ask you bro like what the fuck how how is your
00:58:29.880
brain not explode with all this shit going on like that people are saying i i just i just listen i'm
00:58:35.160
like but but because andy you have to see what sells yeah easy what sells easy sells comfort cells
00:58:44.160
yeah be you you bro you know how many motherfucking programs i could sell if i came out with one and
00:58:50.120
said hey uh the four easy steps to win and what did i talk about earlier that there are no easy there
00:58:55.860
are no easy steps but that's what people want people want to make a book bro they want to say
00:58:59.860
four easy steps to win and it's going to say you are a dumbass you are a idiot hey that's pretty good
00:59:08.480
he's a fucking idiot he did have to think about it though he's pause like because you wanted you
00:59:17.220
want an adjective yeah i want to say fucking idiot because then i had to i had to add a fucking
00:59:21.060
appendix to it or something you know but no what sells you're perfect the way you are everything is
00:59:28.380
going to be okay there's going to be there's going to be another day and this story is very hard for
01:00:24.580
well he's a year older than i was or he was a year well
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i i'm going to do this then i'm going to do all these other things
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I'm from where you can't trust so welcome to my