REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 144. Personal Responsibility Ft. Jason Khalipa

00:00:00.000 What's up guys, it's Andy from Sella and this is the show for the realists, say goodbye

00:00:20.740 to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking

00:00:24.620 reality.

00:00:25.080 Guys, today we have a full length show and it is going to be awesome.

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00:00:54.500 It's very simple.

00:00:56.000 It's very, very simple.

00:00:57.420 I've got a full crew here today.

00:00:59.240 Starting with DJ, DJ, DJ.

00:01:03.200 White Lightning.

00:01:03.840 That's right.

00:01:04.340 White Lightning is in the house.

00:01:06.260 I'm also joined by my brother, Sal.

00:01:08.860 Doctor.

00:01:09.640 Dr. Sal.

00:01:11.340 He's Dr. Sal along with Dr. Gates.

00:01:13.660 I mean, hey.

00:01:14.240 Yeah.

00:01:14.540 Listen, if he can do it.

00:01:15.180 I identify as a doctor now.

00:01:17.000 You know, man.

00:01:19.740 I do.

00:01:20.160 I mean, you can't take it from me.

00:01:21.740 I identify as a multi-billionaire.

00:01:23.700 Oh, welcome.

00:01:24.940 I'm a doctor and you're a multi-billionaire.

00:01:26.380 That's right.

00:01:27.280 That's right.

00:01:27.900 What should I identify as?

00:01:29.420 White Lightning.

00:01:31.340 You're the black face of white supremacy.

00:01:33.160 There we go.

00:01:35.120 Fuck yeah.

00:01:35.720 If it comes with a credit score, I'll take it.

00:01:38.100 You know what I'm saying?

00:01:38.820 Oh, fuck.

00:01:40.220 And we also have one of my favorite humans here today who is an amazing dude.

00:01:45.060 You guys have heard him on the show before.

00:01:46.960 Mr. Jason Kalipa.

00:01:48.560 Thanks for having me.

00:01:49.560 What's up, brother?

00:01:50.180 It's good to be here, man.

00:01:50.300 We came in for this 100-mile century bike ride.

00:01:53.260 And I didn't know I was going to be able to jump on the show.

00:01:55.640 But hey.

00:01:56.120 Hey.

00:01:56.580 Here and ready to make some magic.

00:01:59.720 He's our one friend from California.

00:02:01.180 Yeah.

00:02:01.460 He is.

00:02:03.060 He's our token.

00:02:04.120 No, bro.

00:02:05.600 Fleischman's our friend.

00:02:06.540 Oh, that's true.

00:02:07.060 That's true.

00:02:07.400 Ed's our friend.

00:02:08.480 That's true.

00:02:09.000 Well, didn't he move, though?

00:02:11.360 Yeah.

00:02:12.000 Ed bought an island.

00:02:13.800 Or he's moving.

00:02:14.520 Yeah.

00:02:14.740 He bought a fucking Hope Island up in Maine.

00:02:16.240 He bought an island?

00:02:17.000 Yeah, bro.

00:02:17.560 Well, that's another level.

00:02:18.420 Yeah, sure is.

00:02:19.280 Well, Ed does things on another level.

00:02:20.860 Jason was making fun of Missourians yesterday.

00:02:22.960 So I had to, you know, maybe constantly remind him on how Missouri is maybe superior to California.

00:02:29.040 And I'm a doctor.

00:02:29.820 So I have evidence.

00:02:31.160 You're definitely superior.

00:02:31.960 He even tapped me when the sunset was going.

00:02:33.960 I said, look at that.

00:02:35.400 And I'm like, yeah.

00:02:36.440 That's every day here.

00:02:37.140 It's a fucking beautiful sunset, isn't it?

00:02:38.800 It goes down here, too, baby.

00:02:39.620 We finished this ride, man.

00:02:40.840 And we had a beautiful, I mean, it was, that was, that was badass.

00:02:44.740 So Missouri's great.

00:02:46.700 Yeah.

00:02:47.100 He wants to know if we had good wines.

00:02:48.560 I said, no, wine's shit.

00:02:49.880 Stick to California wine.

00:02:50.520 You got to guess what?

00:02:51.540 We drink it anyway.

00:02:54.500 Yeah.

00:02:54.920 Wine, Bud Light, same thing.

00:02:56.320 Yeah, it's all the same shit.

00:02:56.980 You guys went up by Herman, though, right?

00:02:58.560 Yeah, we went out to Herman.

00:02:59.380 It's beautiful out there.

00:02:59.840 Yeah, we went from, we got, we rode all hundred miles on the Katy Trail, which is a big trail

00:03:05.540 here in Missouri.

00:03:06.000 It's 230 miles long, but we went out basically.

00:03:07.840 So you rode all the 100 of the 200?

00:03:11.260 Of the 230.

00:03:12.320 All 100 of the 230.

00:03:14.520 Technically, is that like a 60% of the time it works all the time thing?

00:03:17.360 Technically, if we're getting down, we only rode 50 miles of it because we were 25 out,

00:03:20.420 25 back.

00:03:21.200 It's called Garmin.

00:03:21.800 You probably challenge it, but you're wrong.

00:03:23.500 Does CNN track your miles?

00:03:24.960 Yeah, it's a CNN poll.

00:03:25.920 It has to be.

00:03:26.420 Well, here's how we know if he's telling the truth or not.

00:03:30.160 How's your butthole?

00:03:31.040 Very sore.

00:03:32.540 Very, very sore.

00:03:33.900 And it's not, like we were saying, it's not the actual hole itself.

00:03:37.040 It's the area in that, which protects the hole.

00:03:39.760 It's the gooch.

00:03:40.380 I mean, it was under fire.

00:03:42.160 Jason, what did you say?

00:03:43.240 He went hard in the tank?

00:03:47.500 Bro, I'm telling, okay, so, you know, riding a road bike, you know, I get in the little suit,

00:03:52.460 you know, and put the helmet on, you ride on the road.

00:03:54.180 And I figured for this challenge that we're going to do, we're going to have, you know,

00:03:57.440 15, 16 guys like, you don't want to be on the road.

00:03:59.080 You're going to get hit.

00:03:59.580 I don't want to die.

00:04:00.340 I'm not dying that way.

00:04:01.900 It's like, oh, we'll do it on the Katy Trail.

00:04:02.920 No, you're going to die in a domestic extremist camp.

00:04:05.560 Correct.

00:04:05.920 For sure.

00:04:06.760 Like the rest of us.

00:04:07.800 I'll see you there.

00:04:08.740 I'll die going out before that.

00:04:11.460 And then I was like, oh, we'll do it on the Katy Trail.

00:04:13.260 You know, it's not that bad.

00:04:14.940 Well, you get out there and it's not that bad.

00:04:16.440 However, when you're out there for six, seven hours and that the bumps of the gravel going

00:04:20.520 You realize, man, your ass ain't in shape for that.

00:04:25.220 Your ass DJ might be in shape for that.

00:04:27.080 My ass was not in shape for that.

00:04:28.140 At what mile do you realize, oh, fuck?

00:04:32.260 I think it was the halfway, like 54 miles.

00:04:35.080 So here's what happened.

00:04:35.960 The 25 out, 25 back.

00:04:37.820 I was like, okay.

00:04:38.820 And then he got us some burritos.

00:04:41.080 And dude.

00:04:41.600 Oh, fuck.

00:04:42.320 You're bullshit.

00:04:43.700 I swear to God.

00:04:44.380 You ate burritos on a hundred mile bike ride.

00:04:46.740 So we stopped.

00:04:47.520 We had our burrito.

00:04:48.000 When that energy kicked in for me, I'd feel like a million bucks.

00:04:53.900 I thought it was.

00:04:54.980 You were blowing you.

00:04:55.540 The wind was taking care of me.

00:04:57.520 That's a tailwind, I bet.

00:04:59.920 Listen, you got to know the cheat codes.

00:05:01.660 Yeah.

00:05:02.080 Dude, there's something wrong with all of us.

00:05:03.840 Fuck.

00:05:04.380 I'll tell you though, man.

00:05:05.660 Like about mile 72, it starts when the grunt work starts to feel in.

00:05:10.140 And we got off the bike for a quick minute and we got back on.

00:05:12.260 When I got back on at that point in time, I knew I was like, man, my ass is in trouble.

00:05:15.340 So it was like, I mean, it was that point in time.

00:05:18.320 Did you have one of those moments in the beginning though?

00:05:19.780 Like, let's just say like mile 10 or 12 or 15.

00:05:22.340 You're like, fuck.

00:05:23.140 Yeah.

00:05:23.300 Like mile one.

00:05:24.000 Yeah.

00:05:24.260 Like mile one.

00:05:25.040 Mile one.

00:05:25.680 I was like, fucking A, man.

00:05:26.980 Cause it's a lot.

00:05:27.500 I mean, you realize, you know, going out, everything's fun leading up to it.

00:05:30.080 It's like anything.

00:05:30.500 It's like life.

00:05:31.280 The first step is always like the reality sets in.

00:05:34.300 Fuck.

00:05:34.680 I signed up for this, you know, but it was great.

00:05:36.880 We had a, we had a fabulous day.

00:05:38.240 It was a lot of fun.

00:05:39.380 I saw Mike Taylor in the locker room this morning.

00:05:41.640 He's struggling.

00:05:42.240 Oh yeah.

00:05:42.680 He was struggling.

00:05:43.640 Hey, but he got it done.

00:05:44.960 He got it done.

00:05:45.580 That's it.

00:05:46.000 It doesn't matter.

00:05:46.720 I heard he actually went 104 miles.

00:05:48.760 That's because he got lost.

00:05:50.120 Gotcha.

00:05:51.060 He was the one we were waiting for, right?

00:05:52.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:53.660 He was a couple of years in the locker room this morning.

00:05:55.940 You know, Mike's usually pretty much like, hey man, what's up?

00:05:58.320 You know, good mood, chipper.

00:05:59.720 Like he's sitting in a locker with his head in his hands.

00:06:02.840 Like this, dude.

00:06:04.340 He didn't even hear it.

00:06:05.040 We walked in.

00:06:05.480 We were like, what's up, bro?

00:06:05.980 He just sat there.

00:06:06.600 I go, what's up, bro?

00:06:07.200 And it took him literally like three full seconds to respond.

00:06:10.620 Like he was.

00:06:12.000 And that's a tough dude.

00:06:13.660 Like I've known him for a long time.

00:06:15.160 I told Cody Klein today.

00:06:16.360 He asked, and Mike Taylor's, I mean, he's been here longer than I've been here, right?

00:06:19.020 So he walked in.

00:06:20.400 Mike's a big dude.

00:06:21.740 And he walked.

00:06:22.620 I told Cody today.

00:06:23.760 I said, when he was pulling up and he was crossing that street, we were all sitting there.

00:06:26.460 We've been laughing our asses off for 40 minutes waiting for him.

00:06:29.300 Drinking beers, you know, hanging out.

00:06:30.900 We're all, you know, we're going to take our team photo.

00:06:32.760 So, and I thought when he, I could see the look on his face.

00:06:35.960 And I thought when he got off that bike, I'm thinking, this motherfucker's going to come

00:06:38.020 punch me in the face.

00:06:38.980 You know what I mean?

00:06:39.280 Like today's the day that Mike's like, fuck you, man.

00:06:41.920 I'm out.

00:06:42.500 You know?

00:06:42.900 Now he looked legitimately mad.

00:06:44.260 Yeah.

00:06:44.440 He was pissed.

00:06:45.180 And he's a big dude.

00:06:45.980 Oh yeah.

00:06:46.560 He's not somebody you want coming after.

00:06:48.320 Mike is, there's very few people that I do not want to get into physical.

00:06:51.660 Like, listen, I don't have, I don't like physical altercations, but there's a few people

00:06:55.360 that, you know, you just don't want to do that.

00:06:57.400 He's one of those people.

00:06:58.240 Like, that's it.

00:06:59.940 Well shit, you guys remember what happened in a fucking three on three basketball tournament?

00:07:03.120 Yeah.

00:07:03.520 Yeah, I won.

00:07:04.180 Mike, Mike, well no, but I remember that, but fuck man, Mike, Mike, man, hey.

00:07:09.740 Yeah, he about got in your ass.

00:07:10.880 He almost got it.

00:07:11.680 You know what I'm saying?

00:07:12.680 He about took you outside.

00:07:14.040 He walked in that day.

00:07:15.100 He was so pissed off because DJ was reffing the games and he was, dude, he walked in,

00:07:20.520 he was so pissed.

00:07:21.360 And I could, you know, I could tell, dude, this dude's like my bro.

00:07:23.500 Like, I'm like, hey, what's up?

00:07:25.540 He goes, all he said was, you're fucking boy.

00:07:28.240 I'm talking about you.

00:07:30.680 Dude, man, you got it.

00:07:31.880 That might've well, that should have been fucking football on fucking basketball.

00:07:35.020 All that was, that was a football game.

00:07:36.600 Yeah.

00:07:36.780 The whole fucking league was a football game.

00:07:38.420 And who won?

00:07:39.320 The South team won.

00:07:40.040 Thank you.

00:07:40.420 Yeah.

00:07:40.720 Good job.

00:07:41.020 Thank you.

00:07:41.280 Who cheated though?

00:07:42.120 South.

00:07:42.520 That is not true.

00:07:43.340 1000%.

00:07:43.660 That is not true.

00:07:45.020 You didn't cheat.

00:07:45.820 I did not cheat.

00:07:46.600 How did I cheat?

00:07:47.120 You didn't bring in people from outside the company.

00:07:48.960 Bro, you flew in people to some on your fucking team.

00:07:51.660 Get the fuck out of here.

00:07:52.980 If I flew people in, I did think, I will tell you, I did think about reaching out to David

00:07:56.360 Lee and see if we can make that work.

00:07:58.240 I brought in Mike Trotter.

00:07:59.760 I am better than Mike fucking Trotter.

00:08:01.360 No, but the thing is, nobody, but nobody else knew that at the time.

00:08:03.880 I didn't either.

00:08:04.420 I walked in, bro.

00:08:05.640 There's no way you're better than Mike Trotter basketball.

00:08:07.780 For sure.

00:08:08.060 Oh, 1000%.

00:08:08.640 For sure.

00:08:08.980 Really?

00:08:09.340 Yeah.

00:08:09.540 1000%.

00:08:09.940 But listen, I didn't think that when I recruited him.

00:08:12.080 I thought, man, this guy's.

00:08:13.020 I'm just saying that because you're pretty bad.

00:08:14.780 Oh, I'm terrible.

00:08:15.200 No, he's terrible.

00:08:16.040 But I can fucking compete.

00:08:16.940 Mike, Mike, Mike, you're worse.

00:08:18.480 Mike made us look bad.

00:08:19.520 Mike.

00:08:19.740 When I say us, I mean, you know us.

00:08:21.480 Define us.

00:08:22.280 Because this is not a visual show.

00:08:24.380 No, no, no.

00:08:25.100 Us as black people.

00:08:26.080 He made the entire black population look like shit.

00:08:28.840 Bro, that is racist.

00:08:29.980 Well, I mean.

00:08:30.560 That's racist.

00:08:31.160 I am the black face of white supremacy.

00:08:32.700 So.

00:08:34.240 Hey.

00:08:34.700 Holy shit.

00:08:35.860 Dude, James Lawrence was just here.

00:08:37.360 Yeah.

00:08:37.740 It was good to see him.

00:08:39.020 I was thinking about him.

00:08:40.460 You know, this morning when I saw Mike, I was thinking about James.

00:08:44.860 I think if you guys had to get up and do that again.

00:08:47.600 And then again.

00:08:48.820 Oh.

00:08:49.220 For 101 days in a row.

00:08:50.320 Just the bike ride.

00:08:51.180 I know, dude.

00:08:52.100 We were like 50 miles in and him and I were having that conversation.

00:08:55.280 I was just seeing myself, dude, this guy did that.

00:08:57.460 Not just like he did the swim, a bike and a run.

00:09:01.220 I'm thinking even just doing this bike ride for a hundred days would be like just brutal.

00:09:06.660 And this guy did two other parts in that.

00:09:09.360 Every day.

00:09:09.840 I mean, it's super impressive.

00:09:11.800 Dude.

00:09:12.080 I don't think people really understand how.

00:09:14.180 Like, to be completely honest, bro.

00:09:16.520 Like, I don't think people truly grasp how huge of a human accomplishment that is.

00:09:22.660 Yep.

00:09:22.860 I think it's the biggest physical feat.

00:09:25.280 Probably ever.

00:09:25.880 Ever.

00:09:26.300 In the history of man.

00:09:27.260 Yeah.

00:09:27.500 Ever.

00:09:27.860 You know, the Tour de France gives a, they get like the, they get the torch for that.

00:09:31.400 For like the hardest physical feat.

00:09:32.760 But I got to be honest.

00:09:33.380 Like, I don't, not one of those guys could do what he did.

00:09:35.640 No.

00:09:36.160 Not even for 50 days.

00:09:37.240 No.

00:09:37.340 What was his average finish time?

00:09:39.260 So.

00:09:39.740 It was relatively fast and then he got hurt and then it kind of slowed down.

00:09:44.600 But I think he still did them in like 14 and a half hours.

00:09:47.100 Like 16 hours.

00:09:47.580 But think about that for a minute.

00:09:48.360 Like, I was thinking about that because the bike ride took us like six hours.

00:09:51.480 And this guy's 14 hours on, like 10 hours off for a hundred days.

00:09:57.820 A hundred and one.

00:09:58.940 Yeah.

00:09:59.160 That's nuts.

00:10:00.780 Like, it's absolutely nuts.

00:10:03.580 It's, I don't know, man.

00:10:05.280 Like, I think about him a lot.

00:10:07.340 Like when I'm going through hard times, like if I'm going through a hard time, dude, I

00:10:11.340 think about people that are tougher than me and people who are doing harder shit than

00:10:15.220 me.

00:10:15.800 And I just think like, God, you're being a total fucking pussy, bro.

00:10:19.700 Like, that's my internal dialogue.

00:10:21.040 I'm like, dude, you are being a total bitch.

00:10:23.240 Is it being a bitch?

00:10:24.220 Like, it's the way I look at it, man.

00:10:25.260 It's like that.

00:10:26.180 Like those people, like the Chad writes, the fucking David guy.

00:10:28.780 Like they have tapped into something that just like, you know what I'm saying?

00:10:32.220 Like, like, like it's, it's hard to even like a normal person to even grasp that.

00:10:36.280 Like, I feel like they've, they've tapped into something that like, well, it's like playing

00:10:39.660 a musical instrument, dude.

00:10:40.980 You have to, you have to try to play a musical, like for guitar, right?

00:10:44.300 Like I took guitar lessons for a long time.

00:10:46.360 I'm fucking terrible and I'm pretty good at everything I do pretty quick.

00:10:51.400 Yeah.

00:10:51.700 So I'm still terrible after many years of guitar lessons.

00:10:54.840 And what that did for me was that allowed me to appreciate people who are really good

00:10:58.740 at guitar.

00:10:59.160 So now I watch people who could play and I'm like, holy shit, man.

00:11:03.500 Like it's so like, if you don't have that perspective, it's hard to understand how great

00:11:07.940 something really is.

00:11:09.100 And I think most people just don't appreciate that feat because they don't have never gone

00:11:12.800 out and done something that even one marathon or one bike ride or one this, you know, we

00:11:19.020 talked about this yesterday too.

00:11:20.280 Perspective is the greatest thing you can have in life experience, you know, like even small

00:11:24.760 pieces of it, just to appreciate the challenges that people have overcome in life in general,

00:11:29.200 physical, mental, whether it's a skillset or a grind, like there's just something about

00:11:34.600 having that taste of perspective so you can understand.

00:11:37.180 And I think when you look at the world today, that's the middle ground of the table.

00:11:40.900 It's like having a taste of perspective is really the answer.

00:11:43.360 Like you have to understand until you judge.

00:11:45.080 Yeah.

00:11:45.840 I don't know.

00:11:46.420 I know this.

00:11:47.740 I know I've, I've done some things in life and I've, I've done some hard things in life,

00:11:52.600 but fuck, that's just a different level of fucking, it's just a different level.

00:11:58.000 Here's what I can tell you.

00:11:58.800 Commitment for sure.

00:11:59.780 Yeah.

00:12:00.180 He's got a very, very, very conditioned ass.

00:12:03.320 Yeah.

00:12:06.140 Well, Hey man, you know, you know what's cool about this show and this is something I was

00:12:10.220 going to, you know, this show is not planned.

00:12:11.900 So we're probably just going to go all over the place.

00:12:13.680 Um, but, uh, the doctor's TV show, did you see that this morning?

00:12:18.780 They did a hit piece on me.

00:12:19.840 You told me about it.

00:12:20.640 So they, so they brought on some people to talk about 75 hard.

00:12:23.980 Um, I wouldn't say, okay, it's not a total hit piece because they were, they brought

00:12:27.320 in two people who did well and then they brought in two people who were critical.

00:12:30.880 I respect that.

00:12:31.940 That's better than what we get most of the time.

00:12:33.860 Okay.

00:12:34.660 But what's funny to me about this program that people refuse to understand is that it's

00:12:39.900 not a fucking diet.

00:12:41.140 Okay.

00:12:41.740 Like the guys kept saying, Oh, this extreme, well, hold on.

00:12:44.860 We're looking at it on the screen right here.

00:12:46.440 Notice the ad that runs right before, right before my fucking editor.

00:12:50.640 It's for beach bodies, fucking 14 day bootcamp shit.

00:12:55.580 Okay.

00:12:56.020 That they're paying to advertise.

00:12:57.620 Now I'm actually out here teaching people how to learn a skill of how to be more, uh,

00:13:04.700 discipline, how to, how to develop confidence, how to become self-reliant, how to build grit,

00:13:10.480 how to build fortitude, how to build the things they need to be successful in life.

00:13:14.760 And these fucking idiots can't even like read my book and understand what this is about.

00:13:19.640 Instead, they talk about this extreme diet and then they get blown up on the internet

00:13:25.360 because there's literally hundreds of thousands of people who have done the program who understand

00:13:30.160 that there isn't even a fucking meal plan diet included.

00:13:33.820 You eat according to your goals.

00:13:35.980 You're encouraged to find someone to help you do a healthy diet during that time.

00:13:40.860 Like the, and it just shines a light on how ignorant people are willing to be and how much

00:13:48.020 research they aren't willing to do and how critical they are of things that actually help

00:13:54.260 people.

00:13:54.580 Here we are in a pandemic where 80% of the people dying are obese.

00:14:00.260 And I've dedicated my entire last two and a half, almost three years to helping hundreds

00:14:05.800 of thousands of people get not obese.

00:14:09.620 Okay.

00:14:10.120 And then also, by the way, fix a whole bunch of other shit in their life.

00:14:13.020 And these continued hit pieces, you guys are so dumb that you don't even, you don't like

00:14:18.320 the program.

00:14:18.860 And all you're doing is pouring gasoline on my fucking fire.

00:14:21.920 So I, what did I, what was my response when I saw it this morning?

00:14:24.740 I love it.

00:14:25.300 I was like, dude, this is great.

00:14:27.120 Like, cause dude, it's totally free advertising, but it's just interesting to me how weak society

00:14:34.260 has actually become to where drinking a gallon of water a day or training every day or training

00:14:40.760 twice a day is somehow extreme.

00:14:43.520 Bro, every winner I know, every motherfucking one follows almost all those rules regularly

00:14:50.680 on a daily basis.

00:14:52.540 All I'm doing is push starting people to start to develop these qualities.

00:14:57.320 And by the way, the whole program for those, you guys that know is a year long program.

00:15:02.720 They're like, Oh, after 75 days, everybody's going to fucking go back to, you know, no,

00:15:07.500 you don't because there's actually more to do and it's on and off over the course of a

00:15:12.480 year.

00:15:12.700 And I can think of a lot of motherfucking things that are a lot more unhealthy than that.

00:15:16.100 Like injecting yourself with some shit that doesn't have any fucking studies done on it

00:15:19.740 over the longterm or, uh, going to McDonald's at once is more dangerous than doing this program

00:15:26.380 with the amount of chemicals that are in our food.

00:15:28.580 Like, dude, the hypocrisy of these fucking people these days is beyond me, dude.

00:15:33.940 Like, are we really that soft as a society?

00:15:36.720 Are we really gotten to the point where we are going to call things extreme when they're

00:15:41.040 actually helping people?

00:15:42.720 Are we going to, eating healthy is some sort of extreme shit, drinking water, some sort

00:15:48.220 of extreme shit.

00:15:49.700 Like what, what the fuck is going on?

00:15:51.600 And these are supposed to be doctors, bro.

00:15:53.440 What I'm asking you guys, what is going on?

00:15:56.460 Well, I think when you look at the education on doctors, most doctors don't even have one

00:16:00.380 semester of nutritional education.

00:16:01.920 That's problem one.

00:16:03.140 So when you have no education, it's goes back to perspective.

00:16:06.260 What is your real perspective?

00:16:07.480 If you have no fundamental training in this, we have a plastic surgeon and OBGYN.

00:16:11.460 Not only that, bro, go look at the people who criticized it.

00:16:15.020 These people are not in fucking, they're not healthy.

00:16:17.660 They look like they've been living in a motherfucking cave for like years.

00:16:22.400 And because you got some fucking letters behind your name, you're going to tell people what's

00:16:26.440 extreme.

00:16:27.160 Listen, I want to clarify this for everybody listening.

00:16:30.180 Nothing that I'm about in any way at all.

00:16:33.760 Anything I say, anything I do, any company I build, any project I'm involved in, none

00:16:39.800 of it is for the average motherfucker.

00:16:42.700 Not one thing, not me and not anything I'm associated with.

00:16:46.420 So if you're somebody who wants to do what's good for everybody, I'm probably not the guy.

00:16:52.540 Like there's go to Weight Watchers, bro.

00:16:54.500 Go to Jenny Craig.

00:16:55.320 Those that will coddle you and make you feel good about your weaknesses.

00:16:58.260 Well, I won't.

00:16:59.520 But in truth, that's, that is a nutritional program.

00:17:02.260 Yes.

00:17:02.860 That's, yours is a mental discipline.

00:17:03.960 You could put fucking Jenny Craig inside the program.

00:17:06.760 That's the whole thing.

00:17:07.620 And these people don't even know that.

00:17:08.880 There's no nutritional guidance inside the program.

00:17:11.420 It's discipline to the accountability structure that happens every single day program.

00:17:14.560 But dude, think about it from this.

00:17:16.180 It just shows you exactly, listen, it shows you exactly what's wrong with our media.

00:17:22.220 They, like, this is something that we know for sure, right?

00:17:26.780 Like all of you listening, you all know exactly what 75 Hard's about.

00:17:32.240 Most of you, because you listen to the show.

00:17:33.840 If you listen to the show longer than today, you know what it's about.

00:17:38.860 Here we have the media reporting exactly how the media reports on everything.

00:17:44.500 Okay.

00:17:44.800 So, so how much did they leave out about the program?

00:17:47.180 How many of these pieces, the Good Morning America piece, this piece, these other pieces,

00:17:51.660 these big media outlets have done on my program, how many of these people have misreported it?

00:17:58.020 Heavily.

00:17:59.440 All of them.

00:18:00.200 Like defamation heavy.

00:18:01.080 No, no.

00:18:01.700 Dude, I got, I got an email from a lawyer about that I should sue them for this.

00:18:05.360 Yeah.

00:18:05.760 Okay.

00:18:06.040 And I'm not really a sewer.

00:18:07.220 Like, say whatever the fuck you want, bro.

00:18:08.660 You're just building the program for me.

00:18:10.340 So, I don't care.

00:18:11.800 But, like, I'm not, and I'm not into suing.

00:18:14.440 Like, I think that's bad karma.

00:18:15.660 It's just not what I do.

00:18:16.480 Now, if I need to, I will, but I think this shit's funny.

00:18:20.000 Right?

00:18:20.720 So, but my point of saying this is, think about all the other shit they're telling you.

00:18:25.920 Think about the shit that you don't have all the, like, dude, we have, we have, we have

00:18:30.340 intimate details of this program.

00:18:32.380 You know why?

00:18:32.920 Because I fucking wrote it.

00:18:34.780 Okay?

00:18:35.040 So, we know for a fact what it is.

00:18:37.740 And these people are willing to go on TV over and over and over and over again and misrepresent

00:18:43.120 what the program's about.

00:18:44.140 We have influencers out there going out and misrepresenting what the program's about.

00:18:49.340 That's the, that's the problem in America in itself.

00:18:52.740 The problem in America in itself is that people have an agenda and they mold the facts to fit

00:18:58.060 an agenda and then pipe it out like it's true.

00:19:00.140 And we know for a fact that none of this shit that they said on this is true.

00:19:05.020 So, let's consider that, okay, you guys who, who, who love me for my personal development

00:19:10.320 and who hate my politics.

00:19:12.780 Let's consider the fact that that same exact thing is happening to you in all these other

00:19:18.040 scenarios too, where they're telling you only parts of the story.

00:19:21.200 Okay?

00:19:21.560 That's my point of the whole thing.

00:19:23.200 Now we can talk about whatever you want.

00:19:24.980 No, but I mean, I think that there's your, there's your, your magnifying glass right into

00:19:28.600 the problem that's going on in society is they try to cause drama in a situation that

00:19:33.900 really should have no drama, right?

00:19:35.260 In a situation where you only know bits and pieces of it.

00:19:37.680 And the only bits and pieces they're trying to share are the controversial pieces that

00:19:40.400 they want to piss people off with.

00:19:41.900 If you watch the video, it's, it's hilarious because they, they, uh, they bring on two

00:19:45.500 people that went through 75 hard, had amazing transformations.

00:19:48.560 Like they, they did really well.

00:19:49.720 They're trying to lead them into these negative questions.

00:19:51.660 They're baiting them, right?

00:19:52.260 They're like, oh, so it must've been really tough.

00:19:54.080 How was it?

00:19:54.440 Like, no, no, no, no.

00:19:55.180 What they said was now you had great results on this extreme diet program.

00:20:00.160 Motherfucker.

00:20:01.380 It's not a diet.

00:20:02.520 Yeah.

00:20:03.060 You can choose any diet program, any, anyone you could put fucking weight watchers in it.

00:20:10.480 You can put Jenny Craig in it.

00:20:12.400 You can get a custom program from whoever the fuck you think you need to get it from has

00:20:17.380 nothing to do with that.

00:20:18.180 Really?

00:20:18.700 The whole thing is you got to eat in accordance to what you need to change and that's it.

00:20:22.760 And there's no deviation from that.

00:20:24.080 And that's not extreme.

00:20:25.260 And I'm sick of this fucking pussified society that calls every single thing that is hard.

00:20:31.240 Every single thing that is, you know, beneficial as difficult.

00:20:36.500 Like, dude, if these motherfuckers really cared about people's health, bro, we have fucking

00:20:40.380 obesity passports.

00:20:41.980 We'd have fucking fines for people that were so much overweight.

00:20:45.520 We'd have fines for people who didn't work out and who and we would tax McDonald's at

00:20:50.800 200 percent.

00:20:52.180 That's the truth.

00:20:53.680 Those things that and I'm not saying we should do that.

00:20:56.180 There's what I'm saying is if it was really about that, those are going to be the solutions

00:21:01.360 when you have 80 percent mortality rate of people who are obese.

00:21:05.480 OK, so they closed down the gym and McDonald's drive through was still open, which is a great

00:21:09.300 reason why Jason's here.

00:21:10.300 But before we move on to that, if you are doing 75 hard and you're looking for a nutritional

00:21:14.580 program, the first format is a great way to get started.

00:21:16.780 And I'd be happy to navigate that journey for you.

00:21:19.440 And it is a great foundation.

00:21:21.440 You know what's funny, dude?

00:21:22.000 I try and I hope everybody appreciates that.

00:21:24.920 I try hard as fuck not to be the guys who jam shit down people's throat.

00:21:29.500 I don't even know that you've ever mentioned the app.

00:21:31.060 No, I don't.

00:21:31.700 I don't mention the app.

00:21:32.580 I don't mention anything because here's the thing.

00:21:34.900 I'm not here to sell.

00:21:35.900 I'm here to help.

00:21:36.580 That's right.

00:21:37.020 OK, and hopefully my my thing is, is if I help you enough, you'll reciprocate and understand

00:21:43.100 that, first of all, my character and how I help should speak to the quality of the things

00:21:48.220 that we the other things I do.

00:21:49.420 That's just what I hope.

00:21:50.500 I believe people are smart enough to figure that out.

00:21:52.560 I believe people are smart enough to support people they believe in.

00:21:55.720 I don't need to jam it down people's throat.

00:21:57.680 I hate that shit.

00:21:58.580 I hate selling and if people want to buy it, cool.

00:22:01.260 If they don't want to buy it, great.

00:22:02.640 But I do hope people appreciate that.

00:22:04.140 I'm not on here constantly like everybody else saying, oh, fuck, I'm the best.

00:22:08.580 Buy my shit.

00:22:09.140 Buy my shit.

00:22:09.860 Look, dude, there's lots of shit you can buy.

00:22:11.840 I appreciate the people that buy from me, but I'm not going to ever jam it down somebody's

00:22:15.000 throat.

00:22:15.600 But feel free.

00:22:17.040 Yeah.

00:22:17.160 I mean, hey, I mean, yeah, where he's not, I'm happy to help you to go to the first go

00:22:24.380 to the app store.

00:22:25.040 No, but I think tell him about it for real.

00:22:27.300 We never talk about it.

00:22:28.220 It helps people.

00:22:29.480 Well, and Jason and I are actually, you know, this is the commonality.

00:22:33.020 And Jason Kleepe, for those who don't know, is a icon in the CrossFit space.

00:22:37.860 He's a 2008 Games champ.

00:22:39.220 He's an icon in the human space.

00:22:40.520 Yeah.

00:22:40.760 One of the best humans I've ever met in my entire life.

00:22:42.820 One of the few fitness people that I greatly enjoy being around.

00:22:45.460 And he said, hey, we want to get down there and do one of these cool fitness events.

00:22:49.880 Signed up, did 100 miles.

00:22:50.840 He's just here to do fitness together.

00:22:52.380 And I had the opportunity to be on his collective today and teach him his people.

00:22:56.400 And the core commonality that brought us together, it's not about selling.

00:22:59.380 We've always been, how the hell do we leave the world?

00:23:01.040 How do we get the fitness space to be more collaborative and better?

00:23:04.480 And, you know, it goes back to, you know, our app.

00:23:07.760 We're measured by how well we help people, not how much we sell shit.

00:23:11.580 They rest the number.

00:23:12.240 In fact, this is a conversation we had on the call today.

00:23:14.560 It's not about the numbers of dollars.

00:23:16.820 It's about the, what are you doing to make sure that you're providing the best value for

00:23:21.340 that person to change their life?

00:23:22.820 And if you do a great enough job, they will support you.

00:23:24.960 That's just the nature of how the world works.

00:23:26.800 In the fitness space, unfortunately, there's too many people that will scout the dollar

00:23:30.380 off the top and they don't give a fuck about what you do as far as results.

00:23:33.480 For sure.

00:23:33.840 And we talked about, you know, our app or, you know, our brand in general is, hey, before

00:23:38.780 you buy a dollar or spend a dollar or buy anything from us, let us help teach you the

00:23:43.120 fundamental basics on how to track your food and how to eat and how to start progressing

00:23:46.480 you in the right direction.

00:23:48.240 You don't have to buy supplements to do that.

00:23:50.320 You know, you have to invest that, say, hey, we're going to meet you halfway.

00:23:54.040 We'll give you all the education.

00:23:55.280 We'll give you the blueprint.

00:23:56.380 I'm going to give you all the one-on-one interaction.

00:23:58.500 We're going to give you a coach and give you everything that we can possibly give you for

00:24:02.400 free to meet us halfway.

00:24:04.220 But all you have to do is give us the effort.

00:24:06.060 And when you start talking about commitment to yourself, that's all, that's all I want.

00:24:10.220 That's all we want.

00:24:11.460 And I think the commonality with Jason is, hey man, I just love fitness and I love helping

00:24:15.780 people and that fuels my tank.

00:24:17.620 That fuels our tank.

00:24:19.000 And it's a purpose-driven mission that we get to get behind and help people change their

00:24:22.460 lives.

00:24:23.200 I mean, I feel I have the best fucking job on planet Earth.

00:24:26.060 Every day I get to come in and help people change their lives.

00:24:28.540 And it's not about how much protein powder they buy.

00:24:31.080 It's about watching that before and after picture and then the story that goes with it.

00:24:34.280 And when I lay my head down on that, I'm like, dude, I have the luckiest fucking dude

00:24:37.340 on Earth.

00:24:38.420 Well, I think we all are.

00:24:40.160 Yeah.

00:24:40.480 And dude, listen, I wouldn't trade what we, this is, this is what I said Monday in our meeting.

00:24:44.140 Like, dude, I could pick up the phone today.

00:24:47.040 And like, people don't realize this, but I could pick up the phone today.

00:24:50.960 I have venture capital firms hitting me up fucking every day.

00:24:54.320 I could pick up the phone today and exit this company for literally billions of dollars,

00:24:58.100 not fucking millions, not hundreds of millions, billions.

00:25:01.920 And I'm not doing it.

00:25:03.200 You know why?

00:25:04.040 Because I fucking love that.

00:25:05.680 And you identify as a billionaire.

00:25:07.120 I'm already a billionaire.

00:25:08.100 Yeah, right.

00:25:08.660 Yeah.

00:25:09.020 Well, no, I am on fucking paper.

00:25:10.720 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:11.200 Like, that's the thing, but like, the thing is, is like, dude, like, I don't have any

00:25:15.600 interest in that.

00:25:16.380 Like, I love coming here and seeing people fucking change.

00:25:20.100 I love coming here and seeing guys like this build careers around these things.

00:25:24.980 I love seeing all these people build their careers.

00:25:27.420 Like, to me, that's what fucking business is about.

00:25:30.440 Yeah.

00:25:30.760 And like, it's ethical capitalism.

00:25:36.300 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:36.960 Like, we talked about this one day when we were doing our walk.

00:25:40.140 You know, we have these ultra rich people.

00:25:41.780 I'm going to get off a totally different subject now.

00:25:44.020 But dude, entrepreneurs need to do a better job at investing in their people and investing

00:25:48.600 in their culture and investing in their communities.

00:25:52.940 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:53.560 Like, what are you guys doing in your communities?

00:25:55.580 What have you, we've, and look, this is my fault too.

00:25:59.540 I just started talking about this recently in the last year and a half.

00:26:02.440 I've been on the podcast game for a long time.

00:26:04.220 And so, I am guilty of this as well.

00:26:06.460 So, don't take this as like, hey, you guys, not me.

00:26:09.500 I'm saying us.

00:26:10.560 We have legitimately lost track of part of our responsibility as humans, which is as entrepreneurs.

00:26:17.940 Because we've gone out and we've used the fertile soil of America to build careers for

00:26:23.780 ourselves and build all these jobs and do all these things.

00:26:26.560 And we, yes, Sal, we do a lot for charity and we do give a lot of money away.

00:26:31.260 But like, I'm talking about more than that.

00:26:33.400 Like, I'm starting to look around our city and see like what a fucking shithole it is

00:26:38.120 and feel like, dude, we got to do something, you know, and talk to other like-minded business

00:26:42.820 guys like the Sandstone guys, you know, who come down and work out in here that we love.

00:26:47.500 But like, dude, I would just like to see a movement start amongst entrepreneurs of truly

00:26:53.040 getting involved in community from a grassroots level, guys.

00:26:57.380 Like, we're going to have to rebuild this country.

00:26:59.140 If you hadn't noticed, this country is fucked.

00:27:01.440 OK, there's a lot of people who are socioeconomically fucked.

00:27:05.420 And because because that's so bad and they depend on the government so much, they can't

00:27:10.840 break the cycle to improve anything.

00:27:12.580 And the government's not willing to improve it.

00:27:14.420 So who the fuck's going to fix it?

00:27:16.040 Because I'm not willing to continue to sit here and watch our country right away.

00:27:19.440 I just hope that we can all start seeing part of our responsibility being serving our actual

00:27:28.840 community, not just giving away money, not just donating money, but actually getting involved

00:27:33.640 in projects that help rebuild infrastructure, schools, education programs, things that are

00:27:40.760 actually going to help these cities recover from this disgusting leadership that we've had

00:27:46.080 for the last 20 plus years, you know, and I don't know, man, I got a lot of things on my fucking

00:27:51.980 mind, but well, I want to revisit, though, because brought up a great point earlier about, you know,

00:27:56.760 close, you know, here you're the extremist for having a healthy lifestyle program that creates

00:28:01.500 mental discipline.

00:28:02.200 But the government's willing to shut down gyms and close places of, of, of getting humans

00:28:09.360 in better shape and progressing their livelihoods.

00:28:11.740 And I thought Jason would be a great person to bring into the show because he's a huge Gavin

00:28:15.860 Newsom fan.

00:28:17.000 And he was actually at dinner with him at French Laundry and Jason owns 20.

00:28:20.540 Oh, I thought that was you.

00:28:21.540 Yeah.

00:28:21.840 Yeah.

00:28:22.100 You got a picture of me.

00:28:23.600 Yeah.

00:28:23.700 Yeah.

00:28:24.160 He owns 20 gyms in California.

00:28:26.440 He also programs for a thousand gyms across the country.

00:28:29.340 And so there's nobody who wore it in the, in the ass more than this man.

00:28:34.480 And he had to battle it head on.

00:28:37.100 So that's why he was able to ride a hundred miles.

00:28:39.500 That's right.

00:28:40.080 He didn't even flinch about it.

00:28:42.460 That's right.

00:28:42.780 He was conditioned.

00:28:43.780 And I will tell you, he's smart as a callous.

00:28:45.460 He came, he came with two pairs of pants.

00:28:49.800 He did.

00:28:50.560 I swear he had two pairs of pants.

00:28:51.800 I'm like, man, this guy's got conditioning here.

00:28:53.920 He's got experience.

00:28:55.440 So what's it been like, bro?

00:28:56.720 Well, I mean, so to clarify in California, the ones that we own and operate in the Bay

00:29:01.340 area in particular, those are the ones that got hit the hardest.

00:29:03.380 We have four.

00:29:04.260 So those four, I mean, it's, it's been tough, you know, and, and, uh, this is like, you know,

00:29:10.460 I live in California, right?

00:29:11.620 I'm in the Bay area.

00:29:12.780 It's the, the vibe is a lot different than Missouri.

00:29:16.700 It's a lot different.

00:29:17.860 And I could share with you my perspective on that, but it's just from a, from a Newsom

00:29:21.760 perspective, he just got, uh, he did not end up getting recalled.

00:29:24.580 Right.

00:29:25.440 Uh, and it wasn't even close to be honest.

00:29:27.840 And I was really surprised.

00:29:29.220 I thought it was gonna be closer.

00:29:30.640 The hardest thing.

00:29:31.300 Everybody was surprised.

00:29:32.560 Yeah.

00:29:32.780 The hardest thing for me was, um, you know, we had our gyms shut down in, in March.

00:29:38.120 And when you open up a business, right.

00:29:39.860 And you sign a lease, you take on certain liability, certain like stress that go shit.

00:29:45.340 You know, am I going to get enough members?

00:29:46.640 Are we going to generate enough revenue?

00:29:47.780 Are we going to do this?

00:29:48.620 You never think to yourself, like one of those risks when you sign, like the government might

00:29:52.900 come in and mandate me to shut down.

00:29:54.720 That's never like even crosses your mind.

00:29:56.980 And it's a scary time for any business owner who's going to especially renegotiate a lease

00:30:00.620 because that precedent has been set.

00:30:03.540 And so that's, that's kind of like the start.

00:30:05.880 So in March, obviously we shut down.

00:30:07.560 We abided by state and local mandates.

00:30:09.260 And we decided at that time as a leadership team that we would abide by state and local,

00:30:15.500 uh, guidelines.

00:30:16.800 We, we, we chose not to place our personal biases on it, um, right, wrong, or indifferent.

00:30:22.460 That's the line we drew in the sand.

00:30:23.880 And that's what we've stuck with for now, almost coming on two years.

00:30:27.360 And it's been difficult, right?

00:30:28.800 But the, the hardest thing for me was we shut down in March.

00:30:31.620 We reopened like five months later, outdoor only, not indoor.

00:30:35.800 And then we get, Newsom comes online.

00:30:38.820 He's like, Hey, uh, you know, we're shutting everything back down again.

00:30:42.760 You, you can't be around other households and you need to wear a mask.

00:30:45.620 And then that same night, that same night he gets caught at the French laundry.

00:30:49.760 And I just remember just thinking to myself like that, that is not a good leader.

00:30:52.340 That's it.

00:30:53.000 And I don't care your political perspective on it.

00:30:55.080 Like that instance, that one and only, I lost all respect because as a leader, you

00:31:00.300 got to lead by example.

00:31:01.180 And, and he didn't, and it was blatantly obvious, you know?

00:31:04.040 Not only that, his like a little fake apology shit was cheesy, dude.

00:31:07.340 Yeah.

00:31:07.660 He'd laugh at the whole thing.

00:31:08.620 He was laughing.

00:31:09.560 Yeah.

00:31:09.840 And I mean, that was really eyeopening for me.

00:31:11.860 Come on guys.

00:31:12.240 Like, you know, I know it wasn't right, but.

00:31:15.620 You know, it was just the weirdest thing ever, dude.

00:31:20.480 Yeah.

00:31:20.860 It's, that was, that was, that was super difficult.

00:31:22.700 And I mean, it's been difficult being, uh, in a County that's, uh, you know, it's been

00:31:28.380 difficult.

00:31:28.660 Cause like we still currently have mask mandates.

00:31:30.460 So coming out here, it is a lot different for me.

00:31:32.680 Yeah.

00:31:32.900 Um, but that's the reality.

00:31:34.300 That's where I live.

00:31:34.900 And, and what's all that freedom feel like, bro?

00:31:37.300 Being here.

00:31:38.020 Yeah.

00:31:38.420 Yeah.

00:31:38.600 It's been, it's been different.

00:31:39.740 It's been weird.

00:31:40.300 Yeah.

00:31:40.480 Cause dude, dude, people are conditioning this shit.

00:31:43.460 Now I was just down in Texas and, uh, the, the hostess who we see every time we go to

00:31:48.520 Texas, um, she has a mask on.

00:31:51.400 Right.

00:31:51.680 And like, I like, dude, I haven't done, we haven't done the mask shit.

00:31:56.100 Okay.

00:31:56.720 So I was talking to her and like, I, the first two or three times we went to that hotel and

00:32:04.420 we met her, I remember thinking like, man, I can't understand what she's saying.

00:32:09.240 I can't even see her face.

00:32:10.160 I remember thinking it.

00:32:11.200 And then this time I didn't even notice it until like, she like, and so I could, I caught

00:32:15.940 myself getting used to it and I'm like, Holy shit, dude, this is what's going on.

00:32:20.740 This is what's happened.

00:32:21.680 Yeah.

00:32:21.960 Like these people have gotten so used to this that they don't realize, they don't even

00:32:26.120 remember what it was before.

00:32:28.280 We're used to it.

00:32:29.020 Right.

00:32:29.220 Yeah.

00:32:29.800 Like I'll give you a really good example.

00:32:31.500 So my children, it was very fortunate because of the school we went to, they were able to

00:32:34.820 go back to school before anybody else.

00:32:35.980 Cause they're in private school.

00:32:36.840 They had to wear a mask, but we at the time didn't care because we just wanted our kids

00:32:40.080 in school.

00:32:40.580 That's really important to me.

00:32:42.240 But, uh, the other day we were at a golf land and there was 10 kids there for a birthday

00:32:46.240 party.

00:32:46.960 And the option was you wear a mask or don't wear a mask, you're outdoors.

00:32:49.800 And some of the children decided to keep it on.

00:32:51.760 I think, I don't know where that stems from.

00:32:54.400 Um, but I wonder what that's going to lead to in the future.

00:32:57.140 And, um, it's at least worth a conversation with parents about, you know, finding that

00:33:02.200 line and that comfort zone for them.

00:33:03.400 And, you know, I come from an interesting perspective on this because my daughter had leukemia and

00:33:08.200 she has an immunocompromised disease.

00:33:10.160 So for the first year of COVID, like I was pretty anal for lack of a term, I got tested

00:33:15.320 twice a week, every week for a year, uh, from a local County fair.

00:33:19.700 Right.

00:33:19.940 So like, so that was just my, and when someone came to me and said, Hey, why are you wearing

00:33:24.260 a mask?

00:33:24.720 Or why are you getting tested?

00:33:25.620 I'm like, dude, that's just where my comfort's at.

00:33:27.360 Like not only that, bro, she's immunocompromised.

00:33:29.900 It's protecting his daughter.

00:33:31.360 I remember when I talked to you the first time, you're like, my whole goal is to protect

00:33:33.560 Ava.

00:33:33.800 I don't give a shit about what everybody else thinks.

00:33:35.460 Yeah.

00:33:35.680 Yeah.

00:33:35.880 And, and, and, and that's what, that was my opinion, right?

00:33:37.640 I don't give a shit.

00:33:38.420 You do you.

00:33:38.940 I'm going to do me.

00:33:39.540 Right.

00:33:40.060 And, and, uh, no one's ever said extra precaution shouldn't be taken for that.

00:33:44.020 That's right.

00:33:44.580 And so, but then it's interesting because I went out and, uh, you know, look, I'm, I'm

00:33:48.540 cool to say, like I got vaccinated, right?

00:33:50.780 Nope.

00:33:51.200 And, oh bro, you got to leave now.

00:33:52.980 Yeah.

00:33:53.300 Fuck you.

00:33:54.520 Yep.

00:33:54.720 Show's over.

00:33:55.340 Yeah.

00:33:55.600 We can't be friends anymore.

00:33:57.100 We talk about this in a bike ride.

00:33:58.580 We have a funny skit and be like, hi, I'm Sal.

00:34:01.020 I'm unvaccinated.

00:34:02.500 Hi, I'm Jason.

00:34:03.580 I'm vaccinated.

00:34:04.560 Yeah.

00:34:04.920 We actually hang out.

00:34:06.860 And it's okay.

00:34:07.800 And it's okay.

00:34:08.900 Um, but then I ended up, you know, I, it kind of, it gave me this idea that you can kind

00:34:13.440 of go out, go do whatever.

00:34:14.440 And I ended up getting COVID.

00:34:16.180 Yeah.

00:34:16.440 Uh, and so then my whole family ended up getting it anyways.

00:34:18.960 This is like a month or two ago.

00:34:20.860 Yeah.

00:34:21.160 But, uh, yeah, I, uh, it.

00:34:24.020 Make clear your daughter's fine.

00:34:24.920 Yeah.

00:34:25.120 My daughter's fine.

00:34:25.940 And, and her, she got it too.

00:34:28.100 She got it.

00:34:28.660 My son got it, but they all got vaccinated.

00:34:30.100 Then they all got COVID after they got vaccinated.

00:34:31.880 Well, I, I, yeah, I, the kids, they're not old enough yet.

00:34:34.780 And at this point, right.

00:34:36.040 It's really an interesting conversation we're going to have to have as a family, right?

00:34:39.360 My son's 10, my, or my, my son's seven, my daughter's 10.

00:34:42.760 They've already had COVID.

00:34:44.260 So, you know, it makes it a little bit complicated when you're trying to have, uh, the vaccine because

00:34:49.580 they just had natural immunity from, from COVID.

00:34:52.180 So, you know, but California is definitely a different type of place than what I'm experiencing

00:34:57.300 here in Missouri.

00:34:58.160 It's more like China.

00:34:59.720 It's just, can I, can I paint a picture here though?

00:35:02.760 For those he's not in Florida.

00:35:04.280 Yeah.

00:35:04.640 Yeah.

00:35:05.140 Yeah.

00:35:05.340 Yeah.

00:35:05.520 Yeah.

00:35:05.640 Yeah.

00:35:05.740 Yeah.

00:35:05.860 Great show.

00:35:06.740 We're watching it on the news.

00:35:07.680 Um, Jason lives in Silicon Valley where, well, that's where honey lives too.

00:35:12.640 Yeah.

00:35:12.820 I talk to honey every day.

00:35:14.040 So like they're in the hotspot of weirdness of all the change and all the narrative.

00:35:19.100 And so it like, yeah, Jason and I have always, we've remained open contact the whole time.

00:35:23.020 Cause he's like, what's it like out there?

00:35:24.060 And I'm like, we're riding around on cow, you know, on fucking horses, tipping cows.

00:35:27.700 Like we always have been, you know?

00:35:28.880 And he's like, really?

00:35:30.000 You guys are, the restaurants are open.

00:35:31.740 I'm like, yeah, we're going to get a steak tonight, bro.

00:35:33.560 I remember we brought one of his key guys down MTV and we took him to steakhouse.

00:35:37.120 First time we've been to dinner in a year.

00:35:39.760 I wasn't drinking.

00:35:40.800 I said, I'll drink a beer with you for that.

00:35:42.140 Like, if you want to have it, I'll have one with you, bro.

00:35:44.100 You know?

00:35:44.700 So continue.

00:35:45.480 No, it's just been a good life lesson though, about how media can impact the way you feel.

00:35:49.580 And, um, and then just like, but also like trying to handle things with as much like

00:35:54.640 grace and as much like, like just kind of, especially in the gyms, right?

00:35:58.760 We got, we got kicked over and over and over again, but we still decided,

00:36:03.560 as a business, we were going to draw a line in the sand and say, we're going to buy by

00:36:05.800 state and load count, uh, state and load guidelines.

00:36:08.160 And we're still sticking with it.

00:36:10.080 Um, there might be a time where we decided to go a different direction if something gets

00:36:12.880 a little too extreme.

00:36:13.720 Yeah.

00:36:14.020 But at this point, that's where we're at.

00:36:15.300 But it's been, um, it's been a difficult ride owning gyms, brick and mortar in particular.

00:36:20.040 I think you're going to see some, some lawsuits and some discrepancies come out in the future

00:36:23.740 because we're in a very restricted state, but federal aid came in through the PPP program.

00:36:28.900 And I'm curious what will happen to make whole the landlords and the tenants who are mandated

00:36:33.040 to be closed for a long period of time.

00:36:34.620 You know, we have a location in Mountain View that was closed for 15 months, but you know,

00:36:38.840 rent on that is 30 grand a month.

00:36:40.160 So, so what happens in that particular situation?

00:36:42.960 Um, so I think, I think we're not even seeing even a, a glimpse of what could occur in the

00:36:47.920 future in regards to how that's going to be litigated.

00:36:50.760 Could you imagine that a gym?

00:36:52.480 I know.

00:36:53.280 I mean, dude, and how many businesses go up and I'm thinking about, we think about rent here.

00:36:56.460 So I think about it every time I drive up and down the road, man, like I've never, I've

00:37:01.080 never forgotten how hard businesses like, like people think I forgot, like, or like I've

00:37:05.980 heard, I heard somebody say, Oh, Andy doesn't really do anything anymore.

00:37:09.300 He's got a team.

00:37:10.340 How the fuck do you think I got a team motherfucker?

00:37:13.120 You think I just shit that shit out?

00:37:15.040 I'm very involved literally with everything.

00:37:17.100 I talked to you every fucking day, multiple times a day about fucking everything.

00:37:20.860 Like, dude, I don't, there's no, I'm not under any illusions about how business is easy.

00:37:27.320 Like it's hard as fuck.

00:37:28.540 And when I drive up and down the streets of these cities that I've been going to, I've

00:37:31.720 been traveling again.

00:37:32.960 And I see this like closed business, closed business, closed business.

00:37:37.000 And it doesn't matter if it's in Utah or if it's in Arizona or if it's in Texas or any

00:37:41.780 of these places I've been to closed business, closed business.

00:37:44.740 Like, dude, there is going to be a major snapback major.

00:37:49.180 And it's like, it's sad, man.

00:37:51.980 It is.

00:37:52.660 But I mean, think about at scale, right?

00:37:54.200 So I'm assuming you're in litigate.

00:37:56.000 I don't know what you can talk about.

00:37:57.260 When it comes to, I don't want to litigate.

00:37:59.740 I don't want to go to, I don't want to do any of that stuff.

00:38:01.460 Like you said, nobody wants to, I want to try and just have an amicable conversation

00:38:04.680 with the landlord.

00:38:05.500 Yeah.

00:38:05.840 It just, you know, at some point everybody's gonna have to take a haircut because I do feel

00:38:08.960 for them too.

00:38:09.600 Right.

00:38:10.280 Like, and we just need to have a good discussion about it because this is unprecedented waters we're dealing

00:38:14.080 with, um, I just, people need to be, you know, kind of work together.

00:38:20.420 And so far we'll have some landlords who probably want to work together and some of them maybe

00:38:23.980 don't.

00:38:24.440 And we got to figure that part out.

00:38:26.780 Yeah, man.

00:38:27.220 You know, it's weird.

00:38:28.420 The times are weird right now.

00:38:29.840 Right.

00:38:30.220 Like I think about that.

00:38:31.380 Here's how I kind of think about it.

00:38:34.420 Like I think about it after the civil war, after the civil war, after the civil war was over,

00:38:38.940 where the fighting's done, you know, there had to have been some grace given, right?

00:38:44.460 Like amongst each other, different opposing sides.

00:38:47.680 And like, like at some point, dude, people are going to have to say, Hey, I forgive you.

00:38:53.900 Okay.

00:38:54.480 But let's work together from, from here on out.

00:38:56.260 And that's for both sides.

00:38:57.400 You know, we're going to have to let bygones be bygones at some point in a, in a collaborative

00:39:02.100 effort to move the country forward.

00:39:04.480 Yeah, bro.

00:39:05.220 I haven't even thought about that.

00:39:06.120 Yeah.

00:39:06.400 It's a huge deal.

00:39:07.100 We've been through worse.

00:39:07.900 People don't realize that.

00:39:08.920 Like they forget that.

00:39:10.000 Like there's civil war was legitimately, they said brother against brother.

00:39:13.740 You know what I'm saying?

00:39:14.440 At some point, like these are your neighbors.

00:39:16.440 These are people that, you know, from down the street.

00:39:18.620 Very similar.

00:39:19.600 Yeah.

00:39:19.760 Right.

00:39:20.180 Like that hate you and have fought against you and probably killed some people, you know,

00:39:24.080 and you've probably killed some people they know.

00:39:25.560 So we've been through worse and we've been able to get through it.

00:39:28.800 I just hope that, that people can get to that point before it gets to a, to extreme point.

00:39:35.860 You know what I'm saying?

00:39:36.360 Man, we, and, and the extremists on both sides aren't helping the situation.

00:39:41.040 You know what I'm saying?

00:39:41.800 Like we have these left extremists and we have the right extremists, you know?

00:39:45.680 And unfortunately everybody thinks that anybody that has an opinion that, that doesn't go

00:39:50.980 along with the mainstream narrative is a right-wing extremist, terrorist, ist, all kinds

00:39:56.620 of shit.

00:39:59.000 But the truth is, man, I think, you know, 90% of America wants the same shit.

00:40:03.840 We want our country back.

00:40:05.200 We want to move forward.

00:40:06.580 We want to work together.

00:40:08.000 We want to improve.

00:40:09.260 We don't want to deal with the crazies on either side.

00:40:11.680 And, you know, we got to get there somehow.

00:40:15.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:15.940 Like, what, what is that going to take?

00:40:17.200 Like, I don't know what it's going to take.

00:40:20.640 I mean, coming, you know, coming from my background, like when you have a long format conversation

00:40:24.740 like this, or when you actually sit down and have a beer together or whatever, you're more

00:40:28.420 similar than you are not.

00:40:30.000 For sure.

00:40:30.700 Right.

00:40:31.140 You could be vaccinated.

00:40:31.980 I could not be vaccinated.

00:40:32.600 Whatever.

00:40:33.180 Right.

00:40:33.380 But I think that the media and, you know, even like the clickbait, like of your 75 Hard,

00:40:40.260 it was all clickbait, right?

00:40:42.160 Is 75 Hard going to, whatever.

00:40:43.840 It's because it doesn't sell to say 75 Hard is a good program for most people most of the

00:40:48.380 time.

00:40:48.560 Whatever.

00:40:48.920 Right.

00:40:49.080 It doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't sell.

00:40:52.120 And I think that's the challenge of the media right now.

00:40:54.120 And I don't know if people have caught up yet is that it's all about how many clicks

00:40:57.720 and engagement.

00:40:58.940 And it's not sexy to put up something that's like non-controversial, the more controversial,

00:41:04.460 the more engagement.

00:41:05.460 Yeah.

00:41:05.780 So all of a sudden the people who feed into this, you know, then they, they start, their

00:41:10.020 views start to get further and further apart because they're seeing on the media.

00:41:12.980 But if you actually talk to people, not as far apart as you think, you know, like.

00:41:16.960 Well, I think that's the thing too, man.

00:41:18.360 I said this a couple of shows ago, you know, first, first of all, to that point, you know,

00:41:22.700 eyeballs on these TVs, those are dollar signs, right?

00:41:25.220 Yep.

00:41:25.440 And so somebody's making money off of you watching that.

00:41:27.940 Somebody's making money off that headline.

00:41:29.520 I said this a couple of shows ago, man.

00:41:31.160 I think of post 9-11 where it's like, what, what all brought unity to the U S was we had

00:41:37.000 a common enemy.

00:41:37.740 We had a face to that enemy.

00:41:39.000 Right.

00:41:39.340 And, and so I think that's, what's going to bring us together and get back to that

00:41:43.000 point is once we realize who's been shaking the fucking jar of ants, right?

00:41:46.800 Like who, who's been, who's been putting this divisive stuff out?

00:41:50.020 Who's, you know, and you've got people that are like the 75 hard thing.

00:41:52.780 People are writing that who they haven't even done their fucking research.

00:41:55.940 Right.

00:41:56.680 And so it's like the, this is just divisive stuff.

00:41:58.760 And I think, I think, and I think people are realizing that, right?

00:42:01.300 Like enough people are realizing.

00:42:02.620 Well, I know this.

00:42:03.340 I mean, I can just speak to my own experience with this.

00:42:05.860 Every time they do that fucking, it gives a huge insurgence of people doing the program.

00:42:11.060 Yeah.

00:42:11.360 So like, I, you know, and, you know, I think the reason they like to come at me is for

00:42:16.880 the reason that you said, like it produces clicks because I have a massive engaged following.

00:42:23.240 It's smart from that aspect.

00:42:24.700 You know what I mean?

00:42:25.060 You know what?

00:42:25.640 And Hey, thank you.

00:42:26.820 It's awesome because you're shining a light on someone that's actually changing people

00:42:30.040 and people are smart to figure that out.

00:42:31.460 And DJ, I can't help it.

00:42:32.340 You were six or seven post nine 11.

00:42:35.600 Uh, I would have been six.

00:42:38.480 Yeah.

00:42:38.860 In diapers or out of diapers?

00:42:40.220 Uh, pull-ups.

00:42:41.620 Pull-ups.

00:42:43.540 But dude, he's right though.

00:42:44.900 No, I get it.

00:42:45.500 No, no, no.

00:42:45.900 I mean, bro, there was no, there was no, man.

00:42:47.820 I got to take my shot with him.

00:42:49.340 There was no, uh, racism after nine 11.

00:42:52.800 There was no, uh, misogyny complaints.

00:42:56.020 There was no white supremacy.

00:42:58.180 Like there was none of this shit.

00:42:59.360 Like it was just Americans, dude.

00:43:00.700 Like say, Hey, fuck, we're coming together, dude.

00:43:02.940 We're going to fix this shit.

00:43:03.700 We'll fight about this other shit later.

00:43:04.780 Uh, Antron Brown was just here.

00:43:06.160 Who's NHRA three-time world, world champion, greatest guy, you know, black guy.

00:43:11.020 And if you don't follow him, he's one of the best, best humans that's come through this

00:43:14.560 building over the last, you know what I mean?

00:43:16.660 Since we've been in existence.

00:43:18.300 And he was telling me a little story about his racial experience in Indianapolis.

00:43:22.320 He took his wife on a date and he's an interracial couple.

00:43:25.660 And, uh, he was like, man, it was a TLC and bone thugs of harmony, you know, and I was

00:43:31.420 out there looking at the, you know, and he's funnier than hell.

00:43:33.220 And he's like, I was looking at the crowd, look like a box of Crayolas, man.

00:43:35.660 They're all singing together, dancing together.

00:43:37.160 And I'm like, in my head, I'm thinking, cause that's America.

00:43:39.600 That is America.

00:43:40.060 That's not, that's the 90% that we're talking about.

00:43:42.160 Like that's how, dude, you're talking about, dude, America.

00:43:44.380 I can sing most bone thugs and harmony songs.

00:43:46.520 That's it, dude.

00:43:47.300 And DJ can sing the TLC ones.

00:43:48.940 That's 64 pack of crayons that we all wanted.

00:43:51.880 See, look, we didn't get it.

00:43:52.880 We never had that.

00:43:53.720 I don't know if you remember that.

00:43:54.520 We didn't have it.

00:43:55.120 We didn't have it.

00:43:55.740 Yeah.

00:43:56.100 The other kids had it.

00:43:57.980 We had the, we had the rectangle one.

00:44:00.300 It was like the 36 pack.

00:44:01.460 That's all right.

00:44:01.780 It's still cool.

00:44:02.800 Like work, but I'm just saying the 64 pack of crayons.

00:44:05.500 That's what America is, dude.

00:44:07.180 It's just always going to be, you know?

00:44:08.980 And the fact that we pointed each other and say, I don't fucking like that because you're

00:44:12.260 a different, you're a different shade than me.

00:44:14.500 That's the most basic, stupid conversation that could ever be had.

00:44:18.300 Like we really.

00:44:19.320 Or buy into.

00:44:20.140 Yeah.

00:44:20.540 Are we really that primitive of people?

00:44:22.980 Like to where we look at people's pigmentation and think different.

00:44:26.780 I mean, I.

00:44:27.600 I would say no.

00:44:28.380 We want to.

00:44:29.800 Like they want that.

00:44:31.100 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:31.460 You have Crayola pulling this up on the screen for you.

00:44:34.520 Crayola comes out with this shit.

00:44:36.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:36.740 So they're making these crayon boxes now that are for shades of color.

00:44:41.740 Like, like they want that.

00:44:42.960 They like, and that's, that's what I'm saying.

00:44:44.200 That was my point earlier, man.

00:44:45.420 Yeah.

00:44:45.680 But here, let me ask you this.

00:44:47.020 Like, this is an honest question.

00:44:48.280 Do you think that companies that, that over pander to these issues are, I mean, I believe

00:44:57.360 they think they're doing a good thing.

00:45:00.080 Yeah.

00:45:00.340 You know what I'm saying?

00:45:01.520 Because I don't think the people at Crayola are bad for doing that.

00:45:05.220 I believe that's their attempt to do what they believe is right without understanding

00:45:09.420 that the more that we identify these differences amongst each other and these micro labels of

00:45:14.620 all these different things, the less unity we will have.

00:45:17.500 So like, I, I seriously doubt that they've even thought that through, you know, I saw

00:45:23.160 a, uh, this is how dumb some of these companies are.

00:45:25.920 I, I saw a, uh, who was it?

00:45:28.240 The free ones.

00:45:28.940 Oh, Domino's.

00:45:30.180 I saw a Domino's commercial last night.

00:45:31.980 All right.

00:45:32.540 And, and, and like, dude, you know, people are dumb and inexperienced at every level,

00:45:38.900 right?

00:45:39.400 They have this big commercial that comes on Domino's is giving away $50 million of

00:45:45.360 freebies.

00:45:46.180 Have you guys seen it?

00:45:47.120 Yeah.

00:45:47.340 Okay.

00:45:47.700 Yeah.

00:45:48.100 $50 million of freebies.

00:45:49.960 And I'm watching it and I'm like, why, why are you advertising that?

00:45:53.240 Why don't you just take that $50 million and add a plus one on their delivery and say, Hey,

00:45:57.680 we thought about you.

00:45:58.820 We gave you some free breadsticks.

00:46:00.320 So we gave you some free, this, that customer, then that value add to that customer is much

00:46:04.780 higher than you running a motherfucking national program, talking about how good you are.

00:46:08.920 Like, it doesn't like, you're missing the point guys.

00:46:11.900 Like if you want to hire me as a consultant, I'll come fix your motherfucking shit.

00:46:15.420 I'm being serious.

00:46:16.360 Like I can run that company better than you guys fucking run it with a five minute fucking

00:46:20.780 phone call.

00:46:21.700 Okay.

00:46:22.260 But like, that's what I'm trying to show you.

00:46:24.020 Like these people, even at the highest levels is not like they're sophisticated.

00:46:27.460 That's the person who came up with that idea is a young college graduated person who thinks

00:46:34.220 they know because they got a marketing degree, right?

00:46:36.820 They don't have the real world experience to understand what is actually happening on

00:46:40.940 the ground level.

00:46:41.720 And so like companies have to be more aware of what message they are sending by trying

00:46:48.820 to go along with what's popular.

00:46:50.820 You know what I mean?

00:46:51.340 Like, I don't think it's a good thing to identify people by race and different race.

00:46:56.020 I don't think it's a good thing.

00:46:57.140 I don't think it's a good thing to identify people by their sexual orientations.

00:47:03.060 I don't think it's a good thing to do those things.

00:47:05.480 I think that we should all unify under one flag and accept each other's differences and

00:47:10.260 work together to make that one flag fucking great.

00:47:13.060 And like, so when I see things like this, like at first I think like you and I'm like,

00:47:17.020 dude, fuck them.

00:47:17.960 I'm not supporting them.

00:47:18.880 But then the second thing I think is like, well, do they really know or are they just

00:47:22.980 making a poor decision based off what the social narrative is?

00:47:26.580 And I believe in more cases than not, it's that.

00:47:29.100 Yeah.

00:47:29.780 I don't know.

00:47:30.720 I could be wrong.

00:47:31.600 Yeah.

00:47:31.940 But I know that pack of crayons cost more than the other 12 pack of crayons.

00:47:35.280 Well, and that doesn't make sense to me either.

00:47:36.940 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:37.680 So it's like, I don't know, man.

00:47:39.320 I just think, I think it's stupid.

00:47:41.720 And the longer that we continue to harp on this stuff and make it seem like it's this

00:47:44.980 big deal, like just, just yesterday, dude, here in St. Louis, it was Parkway South.

00:47:49.840 I want to say high school.

00:47:51.280 Somebody wrote some graffiti in one of the bathrooms.

00:47:53.280 I saw that.

00:47:53.620 Right.

00:47:53.920 And you know what?

00:47:54.700 That's bullshit.

00:47:55.460 Well, it is.

00:47:56.060 Right.

00:47:56.320 But, but hear me out on this part.

00:47:57.780 Right.

00:47:57.960 So the students, they did a walkout today.

00:48:00.480 They're protesting.

00:48:02.080 They're doing the, you know, no justice, no peace chants and all of this shit.

00:48:05.560 Right.

00:48:06.180 And so in my head, I'm a St.

00:48:08.040 Louis guy.

00:48:08.440 Like I pitched into this shit.

00:48:09.520 Right.

00:48:09.740 And so there's been a few of these situations.

00:48:12.460 And when I say a few, maybe like 60 situations at different schools.

00:48:15.720 Lindbergh had, had a situation.

00:48:17.020 Right.

00:48:17.360 Tell them what they did.

00:48:18.100 But every single time, once they find the culprits, bro, guess who they are?

00:48:23.040 They're fucking, they're, they're black kids doing it.

00:48:25.140 That's what happened in Kirkwood over here.

00:48:26.380 Same thing happened in Kirkwood.

00:48:27.280 It happened in Lindbergh every single time.

00:48:29.200 What happened though?

00:48:29.800 Cause I'm on the, they wrote, they wrote the N word on the bathroom wall.

00:48:33.680 You know what I'm saying?

00:48:34.040 But every single time that happens, you know what I'm saying?

00:48:38.440 So it's like, it's like, well, it's like that they did that.

00:48:41.640 Like, look, dude, I don't know if it's every single time or not.

00:48:44.000 We don't know that, but it has been a few times where it's been, it's been, it's been

00:48:48.780 planted to create a response.

00:48:50.560 To create this response.

00:48:51.360 Absolutely.

00:48:51.580 You know, and, and that's unfortunate.

00:48:54.080 And to me, it's like, dude, I'm, I'm just tired of hearing it.

00:48:56.740 Well, if anything's been shown to us, none of these people who are with this, this social

00:49:02.700 agenda are above planting things or telling lies to get people to go along with it.

00:49:08.040 I mean, we've learned that for a year and a half.

00:49:09.440 Right.

00:49:10.060 Like what I do like to see though, and I never thought I would say this is that, and this

00:49:14.760 is great.

00:49:15.800 The pure black lives matter people, like the people who hear black lives matter, don't

00:49:20.740 really understand where the money goes, but do they say, Hey, black lives matter.

00:49:24.900 Those people are rising up against these vaccine mandates.

00:49:27.480 I fucking love it because dude, 60% now it was 70%.

00:49:32.580 I believe it's still 70%, but what they're reporting is 60% of the black population is

00:49:38.000 still unvaccinated across the country.

00:49:40.720 So the black lives matter, uh, not, not the liberal white black lives matters.

00:49:47.080 I'm talking about the actual black people, black people who are with the idea that black

00:49:51.600 lives fucking matter, which we all agree with.

00:49:54.080 Okay.

00:49:54.960 Those people are raising hell in New York right now, man.

00:49:57.140 And they should, I love to see it.

00:49:58.880 Here's the question.

00:49:59.560 Like, all right, so let's conservatives.

00:50:00.920 Here's a great opportunity, right?

00:50:02.440 Unite with them.

00:50:03.200 Let's go up and protest with, I'm not for fucking vaccine mandates, right?

00:50:06.260 I'm not for these vaccine passports.

00:50:07.920 Nope.

00:50:08.280 But what's cool, what's cool is bro.

00:50:10.520 I agree with you on that.

00:50:11.520 No, what's cool is those people, they are not the, the white liberal fucking, uh, social

00:50:19.380 clout chasing black.

00:50:21.800 These are just black people who actually care about other black people.

00:50:25.680 And that's, you know, it's a great thing to see because it is discriminatory.

00:50:31.200 It is.

00:50:31.620 And, and dude, the fact that these white liberals with their agenda are now getting blown up

00:50:35.960 by the same people they tried to coattail in on is, it's a beautiful thing.

00:50:40.500 But, but here's the problem.

00:50:41.680 All right.

00:50:41.860 We go back to who's creating the issues.

00:50:44.000 Right.

00:50:44.400 And so we have the, the border crisis going down in Texas right now.

00:50:48.220 Right.

00:50:48.680 This top picture here is what was put out.

00:50:50.580 They got, you know, they're, they're saying, Oh, the, the, the, you know, first came out

00:50:53.980 of state patrol.

00:50:54.760 They're, they're, I mean, hold on, let's stop here.

00:50:56.580 We're looking at this picture of, uh, the horse, the horse, the, the, uh, mounted border

00:51:01.980 patrol.

00:51:02.740 Okay.

00:51:03.100 And where he's grabbing the Haitian refugee, which that guy shouldn't fucking be here

00:51:06.680 anyway.

00:51:08.040 And dude, look at that picture though.

00:51:10.100 Like, look at it.

00:51:11.280 Like, it looks really bad.

00:51:12.580 I saw it.

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:13.140 I'm just saying, like, look at the dude's face.

00:51:15.640 Yeah.

00:51:16.120 Okay.

00:51:16.520 And look at the guys.

00:51:17.600 I mean, bro, this is a gift to people that want to push this out, which is why they did

00:51:22.000 it released at the same time that they're protesting.

00:51:24.500 Then you have Maxine Waters doing a press conference saying they were whipping this dude.

00:51:28.520 Yeah.

00:51:28.760 They didn't whip this dude.

00:51:29.980 This dude was running and the guy fucking grabbed him.

00:51:33.600 And that's the rain that you see.

00:51:35.900 And like, dude, this is, this is all evidence of what we just talked about, about them telling

00:51:41.360 half the story or the story that they want, that it's going to push their agenda.

00:51:45.940 There were 17, 18 Democrats that came out yesterday to hold a press conference to talk,

00:51:50.740 or maybe it was the day before, to talk about the, this border patrol agent whipping this

00:51:55.160 Haitian refugee, which didn't even fucking happen.

00:51:57.800 And you know what?

00:51:59.240 That, and by the way, they suspended all those guys.

00:52:01.680 Yeah.

00:52:01.980 Okay.

00:52:02.500 But they, but, but they didn't do shit about their own fucking people droning a fucking

00:52:07.940 10 family car of people that weren't even fucking threats.

00:52:12.120 Yep.

00:52:13.100 You know what I mean?

00:52:13.500 And like, I had the, my initial response to this when I said, I'm like, oh fuck.

00:52:16.860 All right.

00:52:18.000 This is bad.

00:52:18.700 This is pretty bad.

00:52:19.540 You know what I'm saying?

00:52:20.620 That's what I'm saying though.

00:52:21.420 Look at the picture, bro.

00:52:22.440 Pretty bad.

00:52:23.080 It looks bad.

00:52:25.040 You know, but here's the thing though.

00:52:26.340 Like when you talk about, you know, having emotional growth, right?

00:52:30.220 I, because I've, you know, learned from other people, remove your emotions.

00:52:34.340 Let's get the full story.

00:52:35.720 Like there's, there has, I'm sure there has to be more context.

00:52:39.200 And guess what?

00:52:39.720 If it's not more context, that guy's a piece of shit.

00:52:42.520 Let's do it.

00:52:43.080 You know what I'm saying?

00:52:43.700 Dude, on top of this, dude, look, we got to be able to say, Hey, certain people are

00:52:48.140 not supposed to be here regardless of the color of their skin.

00:52:50.940 For sure.

00:52:51.260 Like you, this, this bleeding heart shit where we just let everybody come here and do

00:52:56.060 most people have different cultures.

00:52:57.700 They have different beliefs.

00:52:58.620 If they want to come here through due process, like my dad had to do great.

00:53:03.040 I'm happy to fucking have them.

00:53:04.800 I think most Americans agree with that.

00:53:06.820 Because they contribute more than most Americans here.

00:53:08.900 Correct.

00:53:09.060 They do.

00:53:09.640 Cool.

00:53:10.200 Dude, immigrants that come here through the system are actually more financially successful

00:53:14.960 in naturalized immigration.

00:53:16.700 They provide more tax revenue.

00:53:18.260 They create more jobs.

00:53:19.520 They are more successful Americans than people who are born here because they have the perspective

00:53:24.040 of what it's like somewhere else.

00:53:25.300 And they appreciate what we have here.

00:53:27.820 This case, that is not the case.

00:53:29.780 This is a person who should not be here.

00:53:31.680 These are people who came here under the false idea that, well, it's not a false idea, actually.

00:53:38.840 Under the idea that the government's just going to let them come here and fucking pay

00:53:42.340 them to be here.

00:53:43.220 And now they lost track of 5,000 of them.

00:53:45.640 They're now somewhere in the country.

00:53:47.160 They have no idea where they're at.

00:53:48.400 Dude, and this is going to affect us for 30 years.

00:53:51.460 Forever.

00:53:52.520 How many terrorist attacks are going to come from this?

00:53:54.960 Yeah.

00:53:55.100 Well, I mean, not only that, so like, you know, you have that story with the immigration

00:53:58.680 stuff, but we're also, they're not, they're not talking about how the border patrol and

00:54:03.240 the National Guard soldiers who are down there protecting the border right now are getting

00:54:07.520 targeted with water guns filled with hot sauce, right?

00:54:11.180 Like that's not making the news.

00:54:12.360 No.

00:54:12.660 And I know for a fact that it's a verifiable thing, right?

00:54:15.220 Like it's happening.

00:54:15.780 They're making jalapeno water super soakers.

00:54:17.680 Yeah.

00:54:17.900 Well, I have a question for you.

00:54:18.840 So like, you know, you and I were talking briefly before we came in here and I look at like

00:54:22.840 the overall landscape, yeah, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty challenging, right?

00:54:26.520 For sure.

00:54:26.720 Right.

00:54:26.900 You got from obviously the pullout of Afghanistan, you got the border, you got, I mean, there's

00:54:33.020 a variety of different things from the fiscal side of things.

00:54:35.720 It's a shit show.

00:54:36.820 It is.

00:54:38.060 It's, it's, I mean, you got, obviously you got the COVID thing, the Afghanistan thing,

00:54:42.480 the border.

00:54:43.540 I mean, it's a lot, right?

00:54:45.300 And I do think that people are, are smartening up a little bit to those type of images a little

00:54:49.560 bit where maybe a couple of years ago, they would look at it and create a quick reaction.

00:54:54.320 I do think that people are starting to understand that there is a little bit more to it, or at

00:54:58.500 least I hope they do, that there's two sides and that maybe they should learn more information

00:55:02.260 before creating a conversation online about it.

00:55:04.860 But I'm curious about for you, like you said, Hey, I want to, I'm going to go ahead and start

00:55:08.460 doing a tour, right?

00:55:09.820 So you say, you know, entrepreneurs should start helping inside their, their, their communities,

00:55:14.180 which I agree with.

00:55:15.200 And I think there's a variety of ways you can do that.

00:55:16.840 But I'm curious, like for you, when you look at the landscape politically, right?

00:55:20.560 I mean, it's, it's, it's not good across the board and on right and left, you have a lot of

00:55:26.160 people that just aren't doing a very good job.

00:55:29.920 What's the solution in your opinion?

00:55:32.080 And by touring, what type of awareness are you trying to build?

00:55:35.800 Like I'm, I'm just, well, I mean, look, dude, I've been blessed with a certain set of skills

00:55:40.680 that have to do with my knowledge about taking personal responsibility and building things and,

00:55:45.300 and, and, uh, you know, aligning with, uh, capitalist values.

00:55:50.480 Okay.

00:55:50.980 And those values, the entrepreneurship values, uh, matter a whole lot.

00:55:55.600 And they create most of the jobs, all the jobs, uh, they create all the tax revenue.

00:56:00.060 They create all of the, uh, fulfillment or lack thereof for a lot of people.

00:56:05.940 Right.

00:56:06.580 So, or not a lot, not all, but a big part, right?

00:56:08.960 A big part of your job is what you do for a living and how much you enjoy it and how much

00:56:12.280 you contribute and how much all these things.

00:56:14.140 And so like, when I talk about these things in the entrepreneur sense, it's not really

00:56:19.780 far off from, you know, it's only a 10 degree shift to really make it political because,

00:56:25.420 uh, those same values apply to creating a healthy household or a healthy community or,

00:56:32.260 um, you know, success in, uh, uh, let's say a school board or any of these things, those

00:56:38.040 values are very similar.

00:56:38.980 So really it's no different than what I talk about now.

00:56:42.840 Uh, it's just bringing awareness.

00:56:44.720 Like, Hey guys, what I hope to accomplish is I want to bring in a lot of my entrepreneur

00:56:50.320 friends who are also people who believe in the goodness of America, who want to come

00:56:54.580 out and explain to people why it's important to get involved, why it's important to get

00:56:58.280 involved in their communities, why it's important for these small business owners, you know,

00:57:02.000 that we're talking to, uh, or, or, or people who work for other businesses to get

00:57:06.400 involved in what's going on because really my main goal in this Jason is to get, it's

00:57:11.920 not to push a political agenda.

00:57:13.980 It's to push the idea that all of us have a responsibility and a duty to care about the

00:57:20.580 freedom of this country.

00:57:21.520 Even if it's just a little bitty way, even if it's going to a school board meeting once

00:57:25.880 in a while, even if it's keeping an eye on what's being taught to your kids, we all have

00:57:30.100 little mountains and little battles that we need to fight in our own lives.

00:57:33.140 And right now we're not doing that because we've taken our eye off the ball as a whole,

00:57:37.720 like as a whole culture of entrepreneur to go out and make money and, and, and make more

00:57:42.360 money and make more money and make more money.

00:57:43.880 Well, guys, with that success and with that growth comes responsibility to your community.

00:57:49.420 And my hope with doing this, um, you know, I have to, I happen to be a pretty gifted speaker

00:57:55.720 in terms of getting people to fucking take action.

00:57:58.080 Uh, so I want to go out.

00:57:59.860 I want to shake hands.

00:58:00.740 I want to meet people.

00:58:01.560 I want to get them fucking fired up about getting involved and however they get involved,

00:58:05.580 whether it be, uh, they, they resonate more with a Democrat policy or a Republican policy

00:58:11.020 or a middle of the road policy.

00:58:12.480 I don't care because what's really happening here is that apathy is destroying our country.

00:58:17.460 We've allowed ourselves to become apathetic and we've let the left far 5% who are fucking

00:58:24.520 insane and the right far 5% who are equally as sane and insane, fuck everything up for

00:58:31.840 the rest of us.

00:58:32.560 So like, dude, the only way to really get that back on track is for all of us to say

00:58:36.480 like, Hey man, this is messed up.

00:58:39.720 So let's all do what we can to make it better.

00:58:42.080 And you know what?

00:58:42.660 If you disagree with me, let's have a conversation.

00:58:45.440 Let's debate.

00:58:46.740 Let's, let's come to a solution together.

00:58:48.760 Let's not, you know, like dude, the greatest Americans that ever lived, these were not like

00:58:52.980 super polarizing people.

00:58:54.540 They were people who brought people together, which is why they were always killed.

00:58:58.960 JFK was killed.

00:59:00.420 MLK was killed.

00:59:02.100 Abraham Lincoln was killed.

00:59:03.540 The reason these people are killed is because nobody wants unity at the top because they all

00:59:09.120 get paid by our division and our infighting and our hate for each other.

00:59:13.160 They shove this shit down our throats.

00:59:15.180 And then while we're busy calling each other, all these names, they take from our pockets

00:59:20.460 and put in their pockets and that's wrong.

00:59:23.120 And I, I just feel like to me, I feel the country's been good to me.

00:59:28.680 Okay.

00:59:29.120 So I feel an obligation to go out and at least contribute something to it.

00:59:33.680 And this was the best way for me to utilize what I think my skillset is to contribute to

00:59:39.200 that.

00:59:40.160 And that's really it.

00:59:42.060 So.

00:59:43.640 That was a great answer.

00:59:45.900 I mean, dude, look, I, I, fuck, I might go and there might be five people and that's

00:59:50.260 okay.

00:59:50.600 Cause you know what?

00:59:51.360 I'll take the time to talk to all five people and we'll, and those five people will go out

00:59:55.640 and do something.

00:59:56.860 And that's all, that's all I'm trying to do, man.

00:59:58.740 And I've got a bunch of patriotic friends who are not, who are very, uh, reasonable people

01:00:03.680 like you.

01:00:04.240 Okay.

01:00:05.240 That are Jocko or Goggins or fucking all these other guys that will come out and donate a

01:00:10.360 day of talking about their success story and what it meant to them and how they overcame

01:00:14.760 and why it's important to, to do those things, you know, because dude, at the end of the

01:00:18.560 day, bro, we need leaders, right?

01:00:21.600 And leaders only lead one way by example.

01:00:24.580 And we have a lot of laziness going on in this country.

01:00:27.080 We have a lot of lack of personal responsibility.

01:00:29.100 We have a lot of, you know, blame and finger pointing when in reality, we all know who the

01:00:33.660 fucking, whose fault this shit is.

01:00:35.460 It's our fault.

01:00:36.300 It's my fault.

01:00:37.600 It's, it's other men's fault and women's fault that are my age that have taken for, for this

01:00:42.280 country for granted for the last 20 years and haven't really given back in terms of a voice

01:00:47.200 or, uh, uh, you know, some sort of service.

01:00:50.780 Does that make sense?

01:00:52.340 Yeah, no, I, I think what you're saying is resonating a lot.

01:00:55.120 Yeah.

01:00:55.440 It wasn't what I thought you were.

01:00:56.420 I mean, yeah, you're much more, I mean, you're very, you seem much more open-minded.

01:01:01.940 I mean, I love the conversation you're trying to take these entrepreneurs who've been

01:01:04.760 successful in their, in their careers as leaders.

01:01:07.620 Yeah.

01:01:08.120 You're saying, Hey, you know, open your eyes to what's going on over here and let's use

01:01:12.400 some of your incredible talents because you probably have some type of talent.

01:01:15.280 I mean, everybody does, right?

01:01:16.060 But these entrepreneurs probably have incredible talents, identify different ways in your

01:01:19.880 communities, and then eventually it'll create a snowball effect into something bigger and

01:01:23.240 bigger and bigger.

01:01:23.900 Yeah, bro.

01:01:24.340 And the other thing is like these people, there's so many people listening right now and they're

01:01:28.440 like, they think they don't matter.

01:01:29.880 They think they don't have a following.

01:01:31.200 They think they don't have the power to do anything, but what they have to realize is

01:01:36.980 one, and then we have a multi-billion dollar, a hundred billion dollar program feeding us

01:01:45.600 that same message that we don't matter.

01:01:47.360 Our voices don't matter.

01:01:48.360 Our actions don't matter.

01:01:49.300 So we just got to do whatever they say.

01:01:51.220 And that's just not the case.

01:01:53.220 There's a thousand of them and there's 329 fucking million of us or 330 or whatever.

01:01:59.380 Okay.

01:02:00.180 So do the math.

01:02:01.400 We don't have to do shit.

01:02:02.560 They say that's the truth.

01:02:04.280 Okay.

01:02:04.880 Now, do I think we should pay taxes?

01:02:06.640 Yes, I do think we should pay taxes because it's for everybody's good.

01:02:09.480 Do I think it should be over 50% or 60% like it is in California all in?

01:02:14.760 No, it fucking shouldn't.

01:02:15.960 That's theft.

01:02:16.940 Okay.

01:02:17.220 We have to come to some reasonable accepted, you know, because like on the other side of

01:02:22.480 like people like, like libertarians are like no tax.

01:02:25.020 Well, Hey motherfucker, how are we going to get anything done?

01:02:27.440 Like we need some responsible ethical leaders that, and some compromise on everybody's ideals.

01:02:34.380 You know, it's social media has created this echo chamber for everybody where nobody's willing

01:02:40.560 to compromise on anything.

01:02:41.820 Well, listen, if you're not willing now, I know I'm the guy who wears a shirt that says

01:02:45.220 zero compromise.

01:02:46.300 That's a different thing.

01:02:47.620 I'm talking about my own personal standards for myself.

01:02:51.080 I do not compromise those standards for fucking anybody.

01:02:53.600 Okay.

01:02:54.420 And I never will.

01:02:55.380 You shouldn't either.

01:02:56.480 But when it comes to living with other humans and it comes to working with other humans and

01:03:01.140 it comes to finding solutions that work, we have to have some sort of compromise that

01:03:06.700 is realistic and real and also, uh, fiscally works, right?

01:03:12.380 Like it has to work.

01:03:13.460 And what we have right now clearly doesn't work.

01:03:15.660 Look at our debt.

01:03:16.600 Look at the amount of tax we pay.

01:03:17.980 Look how shitty everything is.

01:03:20.040 It's terrible.

01:03:21.200 Do you think eventually there'll be a new party that, that comes to come?

01:03:26.040 I'm really curious.

01:03:27.480 Obviously the two major.

01:03:28.560 You see that hat over there?

01:03:30.020 Yeah.

01:03:30.540 I'm on it, bro.

01:03:32.580 I'm on it.

01:03:33.420 All right.

01:03:33.820 Yeah.

01:03:34.400 So yeah.

01:03:35.620 Look, dude, there needs to be a middle.

01:03:38.980 Everybody's just saying that will never work.

01:03:40.320 That'll just fuck this.

01:03:41.240 No, it won't.

01:03:42.360 We need a, we need a party for reasonable Americans.

01:03:44.620 We need a pro freedom party with, with some, with some people who understand the importance

01:03:49.700 of freedom, which most Americans do.

01:03:52.100 All right.

01:03:52.660 We need people.

01:03:53.680 We need a party that where everybody can feel like they fit in, where Democrats feel like

01:03:57.960 they can fit in, where Republicans feel like they can fit in and moderates can feel like

01:04:02.180 they can fit in.

01:04:02.860 And we might not all get exactly what we want, but let me ask you something.

01:04:06.840 Do you always get exactly what you want?

01:04:09.220 Not really.

01:04:09.880 We don't really ever get exactly what we want.

01:04:12.720 If we get 90% of what we want or 80% of what we want, I think that's a win.

01:04:17.320 You know what I mean?

01:04:18.020 So if we could get 80 to 90% of America to all agree, like, Hey, if we can come to a good,

01:04:24.180 a good place here, are you with it?

01:04:26.280 You know what I'm saying?

01:04:26.960 Like people will be with it.

01:04:28.780 Dude.

01:04:29.200 Cause like, I don't think people identify with people don't identify anymore with this Republican

01:04:33.840 shit or this Democrat shit.

01:04:35.080 Like it's all bullshit.

01:04:35.920 You know, these guys are up there making all these laws, fleecing the public, taking

01:04:40.620 the tax dollars, getting kickbacks.

01:04:42.360 Like dude, if the average human really knew how these motherfuckers came in and then walk

01:04:47.180 out, they come in a normal human and walk out 30 years later worth a billion dollars

01:04:51.840 or $400 million like Nancy Pelosi.

01:04:55.160 If they really knew how they fucking did that, there would be a revolt in the streets right

01:04:59.240 now.

01:04:59.640 But people think that shit's okay.

01:05:01.500 They think it's, it's, it's protocol.

01:05:03.660 This is what they did, bro.

01:05:05.080 They're selling you.

01:05:06.220 They're selling your rights.

01:05:07.620 They're selling your opinion.

01:05:08.920 They're selling your kids' rights.

01:05:10.500 And they're doing so for their own personal gain.

01:05:12.660 And dude, to me, that's fucking disgusting because how I feel about it is the country's

01:05:17.280 been good to me.

01:05:18.560 This country's been fucking great to me.

01:05:21.280 Why would I not want to put some investment back and say, thank you for that?

01:05:25.460 And that's, these people don't have that.

01:05:27.380 You know what I mean?

01:05:27.780 And we need leaders up there, regardless of their social beliefs that are, that have that

01:05:32.120 equality, that the common good, the what's good for the common person mentality, you know,

01:05:37.440 like, okay, I, you know, I may not like this policy or that policy, but dude, if it works,

01:05:44.880 it works, you know?

01:05:46.100 And we don't have any kind of selfless leadership.

01:05:48.060 It's all very selfish.

01:05:49.200 And not only is it selfish, they are now coordinating together across party aisles to get paid.

01:05:55.720 To protect each other.

01:05:56.620 Yeah.

01:05:57.440 Like, dude, we have a tyrannical government and it's the fucking truth.

01:06:00.520 And they do not represent our interests.

01:06:02.160 And like, it is what it is.

01:06:04.080 And no matter who you vote for or what you think or whatever it is you identify with in

01:06:08.380 terms of your political ideology, you have to be able to separate yourself from emotion

01:06:12.880 and look and say, those motherfuckers do not give a fuck about us.

01:06:16.320 That's the truth.

01:06:17.860 So that's where I stand on shit.

01:06:20.120 You know what I mean?

01:06:20.580 And the whole tour is like, dude, maybe it's a fucking total flop.

01:06:24.180 Maybe nobody comes.

01:06:25.080 I don't know.

01:06:25.640 But like, you know what?

01:06:26.900 Worst things have happened to me.

01:06:28.480 Like I've gone to many first form events where I talked to one person.

01:06:32.280 I'm okay with that.

01:06:33.620 I've gone to many.

01:06:34.340 I wrote when I started business, I walked around Springfield, Missouri and my fucking heel

01:06:40.320 toe in it going in door to door.

01:06:42.300 Like I'm willing to do that.

01:06:43.540 I don't have a problem with it.

01:06:44.520 And I know that's how real change is made.

01:06:47.120 Real change is not made a hundred persons at a time or 200 persons at a time or a thousand

01:06:52.200 person.

01:06:52.580 It's made one person at a time.

01:06:54.000 That's it.

01:06:54.580 Whether you're running a business, you're starting political movement or whatever it

01:06:59.100 is, your sports team, you're starting it.

01:07:00.580 Whatever it is you're starting new, it's one person at a time.

01:07:03.000 It just is.

01:07:03.800 We looked at it.

01:07:04.560 We Googled it last night because we've had a similar conversation.

01:07:07.060 You see the similarity here?

01:07:08.340 We had a similar conversation last night.

01:07:10.060 You guys' brothers or something?

01:07:10.780 Yeah.

01:07:11.020 Bro, we didn't think identical.

01:07:13.840 Like it's fucking weird.

01:07:15.340 So in Andrew's reference, he made a post.

01:07:18.020 We had a, in fact, we should go to the fallout with the blues.

01:07:20.340 We should go down that aisle.

01:07:21.280 But Andrew was talking about, oh, did you see my story?

01:07:23.620 And I was out at the farm and I didn't, I don't have cell service there.

01:07:25.860 I'm like, no, I didn't see it.

01:07:27.160 We started talking.

01:07:27.660 He's like, oh, I posted a picture of vaccine, non-vaccine.

01:07:29.580 No, no, no, you said, you go, dude, this is no, we're like, we're like, you know, we're

01:07:35.340 having a rage moment.

01:07:36.420 We're like, fuck these guys.

01:07:37.520 We're talking about the blues because the blues have been our family.

01:07:42.780 Yeah.

01:07:43.100 I can give a good story.

01:07:44.340 30 years, dude.

01:07:44.960 Yeah.

01:07:45.300 I mean, I don't know that I have a younger memory than going to the blues game.

01:07:49.660 So anyway, they, they said you have to be vaccinated to come to the games or show proof

01:07:53.240 of negative tests, which I'm not fucking doing.

01:07:55.820 And I don't think it's right.

01:07:58.000 It's discriminatory.

01:07:59.040 And there's a whole bunch of other shit that I think too.

01:08:01.220 It's going down a very dark road.

01:08:02.840 So anyway, we pulled all of our money from them.

01:08:05.060 We canceled our tickets.

01:08:06.680 I made a post.

01:08:07.700 I got, you know, and I don't like doing that, dude.

01:08:11.180 I'm not into cancel culture and I'm not encouraging other people to cancel anybody.

01:08:14.900 And that's what makes it different.

01:08:15.780 I'm just saying that's what I'm doing.

01:08:17.420 I am not supporting that.

01:08:19.700 So anyway, Sal and I were like, what the fuck on the phone?

01:08:22.700 You know, like one of those conversations, like what the fuck are these guys thinking?

01:08:25.880 And, and he goes, he goes, dude, it's no different than a fucking water fountains and

01:08:31.860 the fucking civil rights movement, bro, where you have unvaccinated and vaccinated.

01:08:35.440 And I said, dude, pick up your phone.

01:08:36.900 Look at my story.

01:08:37.480 And he, I literally posted the exact same picture that he was referring to on my story

01:08:43.620 without talking to him earlier.

01:08:44.740 And he already had it pinned, pulled up on his computer.

01:08:47.300 And I was the exact same photo.

01:08:48.540 I wasn't here.

01:08:49.080 He was sitting at my desk.

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:50.380 You know, it was just kind of odd.

01:08:51.260 But I had, you know, I had an hour long hour and 15 minute long conversation with the

01:08:54.820 leadership of blues going down.

01:08:56.580 By the way, these are dudes we like.

01:08:58.180 Love the guy.

01:08:58.740 Yeah.

01:08:59.020 And I'm not even going to say his name because I don't want him catching any shit for it.

01:09:02.220 And, you know, he was in a tough spot and we talked through it.

01:09:04.200 And I told him, give him my personal experience, my business experience.

01:09:06.880 I just told him, man, we're men of character.

01:09:08.140 Like we're going to, we drew a line in the sand and we said, Hey, listen, we're going to

01:09:10.500 support the causes that we feel we believe in.

01:09:13.140 And the only way to really fundamentally make that change happen is money.

01:09:16.400 Yeah.

01:09:16.760 And I'm not, we're not bowing on that, bro.

01:09:18.420 And it's not because I actually, what I, this hurts because, you know, it's two little fat

01:09:24.100 kids that grew up on a, on a street, a gravel road that we grew up with blues hockey

01:09:28.980 and we have a local business, like, and it is a fucking dream to have our company on that

01:09:35.120 board, like a dream.

01:09:36.920 And I told him, and you took that from me.

01:09:39.260 And I sit here and you say it in, and it's like, and I have, you know, I kind of got him

01:09:42.700 in a corner and I said, not only are all the tests that are going to come in, they're

01:09:45.260 going to be bunk.

01:09:45.760 They're going to be signed by, you know, a cousin's brother.

01:09:47.680 And I said, but sports need to be sports.

01:09:50.440 Like, let them be fucking sports.

01:09:51.760 You don't need an opinion.

01:09:52.980 You don't need a stance.

01:09:54.340 You need to provide an atmosphere where people can unify and come together, not divide.

01:09:58.340 And the problem is, is, you know, and when you start thinking about, you know, whether

01:10:02.420 it's medical discrimination or freedom in, in, in general, it's hypocritical because then

01:10:07.400 I asked him, I said, okay, well, whenever we have a beer together, are you going to ask

01:10:11.020 me for, for a COVID free test?

01:10:13.500 Of course not.

01:10:14.620 Yeah.

01:10:15.120 Would that have been different for you guys though?

01:10:17.320 If it would just be, Hey, to come to a game, you have to have a negative COVID test.

01:10:20.820 Would that have made it any different for you guys?

01:10:23.660 Hmm.

01:10:24.460 It's a good point.

01:10:26.100 No.

01:10:26.740 No, I don't think so for me.

01:10:27.800 Here's the thing.

01:10:28.680 Here's the problem.

01:10:29.660 Okay.

01:10:30.080 And this is, this, we have to ask the right questions.

01:10:33.480 Okay.

01:10:33.660 So the real question is, do we believe that it's actually the, what they say that it actually

01:10:42.620 is.

01:10:43.100 Right.

01:10:43.440 And if we believed what they say it is, what the media says it is, I would a hundred percent

01:10:50.820 do whatever the fuck it took.

01:10:52.800 But the problem is, is they've lied to us for two years.

01:10:55.920 They've manipulated data.

01:10:57.800 They've done a lot of things that have made it seem like it's much further down the road

01:11:02.340 than what it is.

01:11:03.260 They don't talk about that.

01:11:04.640 The average person now that dies from COVID is carrying almost four comorbidities.

01:11:11.700 80% of the people are obese.

01:11:15.920 80% of the people that die are above the age of 70 fucking eight years old, which is the

01:11:21.460 natural life expectancy.

01:11:22.680 So when we talk about the actual data of the disease and what they count and what they don't

01:11:28.800 count.

01:11:29.440 Okay.

01:11:29.700 When you get on the TV and you talk about their 600,000 deaths, when the truth is there's

01:11:34.700 only about 30,000 deaths that of people that died from actual COVID alone, it actually makes

01:11:41.740 the pandemic less deadly than H1N1 in 2000 or 2012 or whatever.

01:11:47.840 Which I've had both.

01:11:48.620 And I can tell you H1N1 was worse.

01:11:50.220 Okay.

01:11:50.760 Well, I think what's tough about what you just said, I'm just to like, you're sharing

01:11:55.220 statistics, right?

01:11:56.160 That you received from the CDC.

01:11:58.540 CDC.

01:11:59.100 Yeah.

01:11:59.480 And however, like, I feel like if you're on the opposite side, you could also create statistics

01:12:06.080 to, I feel like there's a lot of numbers thrown around on both sides of the aisle that

01:12:12.100 say it's super deadly or not deadly, depending on what resources and what information you're

01:12:16.760 getting it from.

01:12:17.460 And I think that's what it is.

01:12:18.160 Let me ask you this question.

01:12:18.960 Yeah.

01:12:19.140 If someone gets shot or they die from the shot or COVID?

01:12:23.420 Yeah.

01:12:23.940 Okay.

01:12:24.180 If someone gets a car wreck and they die, do they die of COVID or they die of car wreck?

01:12:27.320 Right.

01:12:28.000 Okay.

01:12:28.300 That's the problem.

01:12:29.240 Right.

01:12:29.540 Okay.

01:12:29.780 This has been exaggerated so heavily.

01:12:31.900 And so the reason that I feel the way I do is because I personally believe they have made

01:12:40.960 in a way to take our freedoms and to take our freedoms and to over-regulate our country and

01:12:45.260 I'm not helping them do that.

01:12:46.980 So I resist.

01:12:48.420 All right.

01:12:49.060 So this is not me saying COVID isn't real.

01:12:52.400 This is not me saying, this is me being alive for 42 fucking years and living through a pandemic

01:12:56.820 every four fucking five years.

01:12:58.460 And they've never done any of this shit, just like you.

01:13:01.400 Okay.

01:13:01.660 We didn't shut the country down when 60,000 people died of fucking H1N1 or 80,000 people

01:13:08.240 died of the flu the year before.

01:13:09.840 Like, dude, we don't, we don't shut the country down.

01:13:12.580 We don't put masks on and cover people's identities.

01:13:14.800 We don't restrict their freedoms.

01:13:16.660 We don't make them show medical papers.

01:13:18.600 That's not what America's about.

01:13:20.480 And so for me, this is more so about standing and protecting what I believe is being attacked

01:13:27.420 than it is the safety issue.

01:13:30.660 Now I've had COVID as well.

01:13:32.480 Everybody in this office had COVID.

01:13:34.440 We have a lot of people, not a lot.

01:13:36.760 We have a few people who have ended up in the hospital for COVID and we all understand

01:13:40.040 that it's a real thing.

01:13:41.460 A hundred percent.

01:13:42.280 The problem is, is that when you say anything else besides it's the fucking worst pandemic

01:13:47.600 ever, you're a right wing, far right conspiracy nut job.

01:13:51.520 And that's just not the facts.

01:13:52.840 So I do agree with you, but I also have done so much research into this the whole time that

01:13:59.420 I'm completely aware of what the fuckery is they're trying to pull on everybody.

01:14:04.080 So I just can't contribute to that with good conscience.

01:14:08.120 Well, and even in addition to it, like they've never done it for the flu.

01:14:11.220 Sal?

01:14:11.660 They didn't do it for H1N1, right?

01:14:13.100 The flu is extremely dead.

01:14:14.200 And there was no political, there was no political stance in regards to sports or politics or

01:14:19.020 politics in any of those.

01:14:20.060 Like, so why now?

01:14:21.640 You know, like there's, there's a, there's, there's, there's a fire to the smoke.

01:14:24.780 It's not just a smoke bomb sitting over in the corner.

01:14:26.460 And like, dude, it's, it's, you know, look, dude, I know people who have died from this.

01:14:30.120 Like, it's not like I have a mutual friend whose father died.

01:14:32.520 Yeah.

01:14:33.280 Yeah.

01:14:33.740 I mean, dude, we know.

01:14:34.820 Yeah.

01:14:36.960 Look.

01:14:39.540 It's a pandemic.

01:14:41.180 There's nobody denying that, but we don't do these things that are happening in the world

01:14:45.660 for a pandemic.

01:14:47.620 Look what's happening in Australia.

01:14:49.040 You know what I'm saying?

01:14:50.700 Look what's happening in Canada and in Europe.

01:14:53.140 Like that's, what's coming here.

01:14:54.580 The only reason it's not here is because we have guns.

01:14:56.700 That's it.

01:14:57.440 Which is the importance of 2A.

01:14:58.780 Yeah.

01:14:59.080 Talked about this.

01:14:59.820 You know?

01:15:00.080 So the argument to, for gun control guys is dead.

01:15:03.400 Like it's a non-negotiable factor anymore.

01:15:05.280 Like a lot of people pre this situation were, were willing to listen.

01:15:10.440 Like, you know, okay.

01:15:12.420 Come to a compromise.

01:15:13.260 Like I said, you know, but like that argument that they always make about guns, like you

01:15:17.400 don't need a fucking AR-15 to hunt deer.

01:15:19.300 That shit's gone, dude.

01:15:20.820 No shit.

01:15:21.340 We don't.

01:15:21.660 We need an AR-15 so that you don't beat the fuck out of us.

01:15:24.660 Like they're doing in Australia right now.

01:15:26.100 Or take us and put us in camps or do this.

01:15:28.340 Cause I can tell you right now, if you come for me for a fucking camp, the AR-15 is going

01:15:32.220 to be used.

01:15:33.320 Period.

01:15:34.140 Okay.

01:15:34.420 And that's just what it is.

01:15:35.860 So, you know, maybe I have a different perspective, but I don't think I'm off.

01:15:40.780 I think most people, I think most of America is starting to see what's happening.

01:15:44.860 You know?

01:15:45.240 I mean, it's definitely interesting times, you know, to think that like this would actually

01:15:48.640 be a real conversation.

01:15:50.260 I mean, just think three years ago.

01:15:51.580 Well, I mean, okay.

01:15:52.100 Let's legitimately talk about this.

01:15:54.700 Like legit.

01:15:55.340 Cause I appreciate your question very much.

01:16:00.600 If somebody commits suicide, is that a COVID death?

01:16:03.820 Or is that a fucking suicide?

01:16:05.960 It's a suicide.

01:16:06.940 If someone murders another person, is that, what is that?

01:16:10.840 Is that murder or is that, and they have COVID.

01:16:12.680 Is that, should that be counted as a COVID death?

01:16:14.960 It's murder.

01:16:15.820 Right.

01:16:16.000 Because that's what's been happening this entire time.

01:16:18.620 They've been driving the numbers with all these different situations.

01:16:22.260 And dude, it starts, it's starting to come out on, on different, there's whistleblowers

01:16:27.040 coming out from the medical community.

01:16:28.360 Literally every day, tens of thousands of doctors have been silenced or have been de-platformed

01:16:33.780 because they speak out about what's going on.

01:16:35.840 One of the things they're doing in hospitals, they like, dude, there's a hospital here in

01:16:40.460 St. Louis.

01:16:40.940 This came out a week ago.

01:16:44.100 They have five, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe they have five intensive

01:16:48.660 care floors and they were only using two of the floors of the five.

01:16:52.420 And then they were claiming that they were overrun and understaffed and everybody's dying

01:16:57.060 and they've got three more floors to grow.

01:16:59.740 And so we, these companies, and they are companies, these hospital companies that own

01:17:05.320 the hospitals get paid from the federal government for people that die from COVID.

01:17:10.420 Now I'm no fucking idiot, but if you run a company and you're starting to make money

01:17:15.560 by something, what do you want to do?

01:17:18.440 You usually want more of that because it makes you more money.

01:17:21.840 Okay.

01:17:22.340 And that's what we have going on.

01:17:23.720 And people think that that's not happening.

01:17:25.220 That is happening.

01:17:26.040 It's happening all over.

01:17:27.060 And that's not misinformation.

01:17:28.000 The fact that you think it is, is just showing you that they are not allowing you to see that

01:17:33.240 because I have people, I have literal doctors, thousands of them that reach out to me for

01:17:37.320 the last two years saying, dude, I can't say shit.

01:17:39.540 One of my, one of my good buddies, who's a huge car guy who works in your city, who is

01:17:44.800 a doctor, I'm not going to say his name, reached out to me and was like, bro, this

01:17:48.380 is fucked up what they're doing.

01:17:49.900 This is a guy I know.

01:17:51.020 This is not like some random dude off the internet.

01:17:53.740 This is a dude I've known for seven years.

01:17:57.100 You know what I'm saying?

01:17:58.000 Like saying, Hey bro, they are doing this shit.

01:18:00.340 So like, that's where I'm, that's why I am where I am.

01:18:03.980 You know, it's not about like, dude, if this shit was really like, look, dude, I've said

01:18:07.560 this.

01:18:08.500 Remember the videos they showed us when it all came out and they were putting out their

01:18:13.780 people were walking down the street in China, just fucking falling over dead.

01:18:17.120 If that were actually happening, I would do everything they fucking said.

01:18:20.760 I would say, and dude, we did do that until we figured out that wasn't happening.

01:18:25.400 So what's the resolution then?

01:18:26.900 What do you think?

01:18:27.460 Because I'm coming here from an area that they have a lot of different perspectives than

01:18:31.500 what you just said.

01:18:32.200 Yeah.

01:18:32.360 Right.

01:18:32.940 And I'm obviously super open-minded.

01:18:35.340 I love having these conversations.

01:18:36.480 Like, but I come from a place where like what you're saying, it's just in general, right?

01:18:41.440 A lot of people feel like it is a really big deal.

01:18:44.420 Right.

01:18:45.260 And they need to take appropriate precautions, whatever those may be.

01:18:48.900 Let me ask you this.

01:18:49.880 Yeah.

01:18:50.140 How many of those people have actually looked on the CDC's website?

01:18:53.560 How many of those people have actually dug into what's going on?

01:18:56.060 Well, I mean, that's also a big thing, right?

01:18:57.960 Right.

01:18:58.380 Perception becomes your reality.

01:18:59.440 Because I know this, California people like to fucking live in California and they like

01:19:03.020 their lattes and they like to do their life and they don't really like to really

01:19:06.020 get that involved.

01:19:07.000 They like to scream about shit when it's outrage.

01:19:09.480 But I mean, I'm talking about educated people.

01:19:11.320 How many people have really looked into this?

01:19:13.860 Probably, I assume, just like many things in life, probably not as many as there should

01:19:17.320 be, right?

01:19:17.740 Yeah.

01:19:18.000 But I'm curious, if you look at the nation as a whole, right?

01:19:20.840 California, New York, other areas being kind of like held set, I mean, being all together

01:19:24.540 as a nation, how do you move forward, right?

01:19:27.260 And you said it like, you know, past civil war, you know, people coming together.

01:19:30.240 Like, when does that time come?

01:19:31.580 Right.

01:19:31.740 I thought we were going to get through this thing like in three months.

01:19:33.820 I remember the day we shut down our gyms.

01:19:35.540 I'm like, oh, you know, it was a really big deal.

01:19:37.760 I was like, guys, you know, hang tight.

01:19:40.000 We'll be back in 60, 90 days, whatever it was, right?

01:19:42.640 Or a month even.

01:19:43.620 And then boom, it just kept going and going and going.

01:19:46.580 And now here we are with still specific mandates coming up 18 months in or whatever.

01:19:51.400 So where's the resolution?

01:19:52.660 What do you think?

01:19:53.160 What do you think?

01:19:53.880 How do you think it turns out?

01:19:55.060 They're going to continue to push this until everybody is under what's called a vaccine

01:20:00.940 passport.

01:20:01.360 And they're going to use that passport to socially audit you with a social credit system.

01:20:08.020 And they're already putting legislation in for now.

01:20:11.420 Biden just did the IRS check.

01:20:14.340 So now any any any American citizen that has more than six hundred dollars in the bank account

01:20:18.420 is going to be monitored by the IRS.

01:20:20.220 Yeah.

01:20:20.760 So they're already putting what they're attempting to do.

01:20:22.680 And my belief, I'm not an idiot, they're trying to implement China's social credit system

01:20:29.120 where neighbors tell on each other that you get crap.

01:20:31.980 Do you are you familiar with this?

01:20:33.760 The social credit system?

01:20:34.820 No.

01:20:35.100 OK, so basically the way it works is you they have a set of rules.

01:20:40.960 OK, and they've turned everybody against each other.

01:20:43.760 And so, like, if I see you do something wrong, I fucking go on my phone.

01:20:48.680 I report it.

01:20:49.380 Your social credit score goes down.

01:20:51.280 You can't go to certain places to eat.

01:20:53.240 You can't make certain you can't have certain jobs.

01:20:55.640 You're basically a lesser citizen.

01:20:58.160 That's how it works.

01:20:59.240 And if I see you do something good, like the example that that I always use is like, let's

01:21:02.700 say you carried someone home from that was drunk and you help them out.

01:21:06.280 I might put some credits in there, but it's peer to peer reporting.

01:21:09.080 So basically, you let all the Karens of the world run the fucking whole ship.

01:21:12.360 That's what they're doing.

01:21:13.960 They're doing it in Australia right now.

01:21:15.820 Go look up social credit system from fucking China.

01:21:19.620 Go look it up.

01:21:20.540 That's what's happening.

01:21:21.700 And people here think it's about fucking health.

01:21:23.420 It ain't about health.

01:21:24.160 It has nothing to do with health.

01:21:25.480 It has everything to do with communism being installed into our country.

01:21:29.560 Period.

01:21:30.720 That's it.

01:21:31.020 You were surprised that Newsom didn't get recalled.

01:21:33.340 Everybody was.

01:21:34.040 You know why?

01:21:34.860 Because he was installed.

01:21:36.520 He wasn't elected.

01:21:38.300 That's why.

01:21:38.780 And people, so when you say, how do we get to a point where we move forward, it's going

01:21:46.560 to have to get so bad that people are like, holy fuck.

01:21:49.640 And unfortunately, people, you know, people have to learn the hard way because like, dude,

01:21:54.920 I've been a little bit bitter because people, I've been saying this for so long and I've

01:21:58.880 had so many people come at me and say, oh, you're wrong.

01:22:01.440 You're wrong.

01:22:01.820 Well, dude, go listen to all the shit, man.

01:22:04.000 Go listen to my last two years of shows.

01:22:06.420 There ain't nothing I've said that was wrong.

01:22:07.540 And the only thing I said that the only thing I was wrong about was that Trump was going

01:22:11.020 to arrest those dudes for treason, which he didn't do.

01:22:14.460 And I'm, you know, it is what it is.

01:22:16.540 But I bet you if he knew he had General Milley by the balls, he would have.

01:22:20.540 I could bet you this.

01:22:22.260 The shit ain't over yet.

01:22:24.100 No, it's this far from over.

01:22:25.260 So, so, and that's not a pro Trump statement.

01:22:28.040 I'm just telling you, there's a lot of shit going on in the background that we don't fucking

01:22:30.820 know about.

01:22:31.260 And I know that for a fucking fact.

01:22:32.440 Well, I think the stance on moving forward, though, is the data, the data has to be presented

01:22:39.020 in a clear manner and people have to learn to understand the data.

01:22:42.500 It is.

01:22:42.940 But that's the thing, Sal.

01:22:43.780 They don't want you to, like, people say trust the science.

01:22:46.580 Dude, this is the CDC's website.

01:22:48.160 People that are saying trust the science are just repeating that slogan.

01:22:51.420 That's it.

01:22:51.600 It's no different than the Black Lives Matter slogan.

01:22:54.120 It's no different than the Antifa slogan.

01:22:56.060 That's it.

01:22:56.320 It's the opposite of what the fucking truth is.

01:22:59.000 Antifa calls other people Nazis.

01:23:00.880 All Antifa is, is a fucking Nazi organization masquerading as anti-Nazi.

01:23:08.000 Okay?

01:23:08.420 Black Lives Matter.

01:23:09.360 They say they're for black lives.

01:23:10.620 They're not for black lives.

01:23:11.580 It's a creative name.

01:23:12.920 They get the black people engaged.

01:23:14.360 They raise a bunch of money.

01:23:15.620 The old rich white motherfuckers take the money.

01:23:18.100 That's, this is, this is, this is communism 101.

01:23:22.140 Distraction, wordplay, dilution of terms.

01:23:25.800 And that's what's happening.

01:23:27.080 And it's no different than with any of this shit.

01:23:29.080 So, if you want to know, if you want to know what the fuck they're doing, I'm being dead

01:23:32.780 serious and literal.

01:23:34.100 If you want to know what they are doing, turn on CNN and whatever they say, the opposite

01:23:39.040 is true.

01:23:39.740 No, I'm not making a joke.

01:23:42.020 I'm being honest.

01:23:43.020 Yeah.

01:23:43.400 Everything they say, the exact opposite is true.

01:23:46.640 Now, Fox News ain't no better because they, they, they try to tell the truth.

01:23:50.340 But then what they do is I think they're, I think they are better.

01:23:54.020 They try to tell the truth, but then they spin it so hard.

01:23:56.620 It sounds like propaganda.

01:23:57.920 And so like, there's no, there's no objective truth happening in our media, right?

01:24:03.640 It's all agenda.

01:24:04.500 It's all propaganda.

01:24:04.960 The only one that is objective, they censor it like Project Veritas.

01:24:07.880 That's right.

01:24:08.780 You know, like that to me, they're not biased.

01:24:10.620 Why would we, why would we be censoring doctors who are out there trying to talk about how

01:24:15.180 they've been treated their COVID patients successfully?

01:24:18.420 If this was about health, why?

01:24:21.360 Yeah.

01:24:21.760 I've seen some of that too.

01:24:22.680 Yeah.

01:24:23.040 I should note, like, I think there's this picture painted of California and like overly,

01:24:27.960 but I do think like we're saying through this conversation, I come from California.

01:24:31.340 I probably have slightly different views on certain things.

01:24:34.260 For example, I got vaccinated.

01:24:35.420 Yeah.

01:24:35.840 But I think more people or not are more in the middle than anybody thinks.

01:24:40.620 Like even being in California and in these areas, a lot of them don't want these specific

01:24:45.180 mandates in place, right?

01:24:46.440 They don't want that.

01:24:47.340 Right.

01:24:47.660 They want, they're, they're just like the rest of the country.

01:24:50.520 So why do they continue to, why do they continue to support candidates that are for that then?

01:24:55.360 Well, I don't, that's a, that's why I was surprised.

01:24:58.180 Yeah.

01:24:58.820 Well, it's because they've attached our identity to a divisive party.

01:25:02.180 Or they're cheating.

01:25:02.800 All of these, no, listen, all of these things are programmed for us to divide each other.

01:25:07.940 Like what party do you belong to?

01:25:09.480 Are you vaccinated or unvaccinated?

01:25:11.440 Do you believe in BLM?

01:25:12.860 Do you believe in this?

01:25:13.620 And so what's happening is even though people can see the hypocrisy and they can say, I

01:25:17.560 don't want this shit.

01:25:18.320 I don't want this.

01:25:19.320 I'm not for this.

01:25:20.500 They, they, they refuse to speak up because they don't want to be seen as a dissenter from

01:25:24.880 all the other issues.

01:25:25.660 So they've attached their identity to this side and they're not willing to hear any other

01:25:31.020 thing, right?

01:25:31.860 Because they're afraid if they come out that all their friends and family are going to

01:25:35.140 say, Oh my God, I can't believe you're not.

01:25:36.900 And that's exactly what they do.

01:25:38.320 And that's also exactly why the right is getting so much traction right now because even the

01:25:43.460 moderates are getting pushed to the right because they don't agree with every single

01:25:47.700 thing.

01:25:48.040 Right.

01:25:48.900 So like, dude, we have to get to solve this, which is your initial answer.

01:25:53.580 We have to all separate ourselves from, from what we think we believe in our identities

01:25:58.260 and understand that the things we've attached ourselves to are man-made ideas and structures

01:26:03.960 and social constructs that do not represent literally everything that we believe.

01:26:09.480 They represent some of the things we believe.

01:26:11.880 But we shouldn't be standing up for things that we, that we don't agree with just because

01:26:17.120 we've affiliated ourselves mentally with this other group of people.

01:26:20.020 Does that make sense?

01:26:21.480 Well, and I think you add to that, right?

01:26:22.760 You can't go along, you can't go along with those ideologies either.

01:26:25.500 You know, I stand up against, you know, the St. Louis Blues.

01:26:29.040 Well, once you recognize what's happening, it's easier to do that.

01:26:32.160 Yeah, you have to do that.

01:26:33.200 Well, and in fairness, and I don't want to get into the whole story, but Jason had a group

01:26:36.840 of friends and if you don't feel like sharing your story, it's no big deal.

01:26:39.420 But basically, they had a friend who was unvaccinated, who was going to a vaccinated

01:26:43.120 party and uninvited the unvaccinated friend, right?

01:26:45.840 Fair?

01:26:46.840 I mean, that's the way, because different viewpoints, right?

01:26:50.540 But me, like me and my answer to that, I would unfriend that guy just from the social

01:26:55.320 discrimination standpoint.

01:26:56.680 Me.

01:26:57.160 That's how, like in my head, because I can't roll with him.

01:26:59.000 So what happened?

01:26:59.800 No, so the, you know, there is a theory that, and a lot of people believe this and there's,

01:27:06.300 I assume you have statistics to not, that if you're vaccinated, you're not going to have

01:27:10.340 the same type of load and your likelihood of giving it to someone else is going to be

01:27:14.100 less, right?

01:27:15.240 So there's a social good to be done by getting vaccinated in the greater whole.

01:27:20.060 Now, I don't know if you agree with that or disagree with that, but assuming you agree

01:27:24.760 with that.

01:27:25.380 That's what I understand to be the case, yes.

01:27:27.820 So if you agree with getting vaccinated is better for the greater good of a group in like

01:27:32.700 this room, right, than for people who decide not to get vaccinated, you know, it's challenging

01:27:38.880 for those who do decide because they.

01:27:40.500 Okay.

01:27:40.740 I understand that.

01:27:41.520 Yeah.

01:27:41.680 A hundred percent.

01:27:42.240 Okay.

01:27:43.240 So then we, you know, I know I've, I have seen a situation where someone doesn't want

01:27:48.860 to have that person come over because they don't feel as comfortable having them around

01:27:54.340 because they have not gotten vaccinated.

01:27:56.880 But that's, hold on.

01:27:58.720 So I can't get the vaccine.

01:28:01.700 So let me ask you this.

01:28:03.160 I'm going to be real.

01:28:04.900 Now, the reason I can't get the vaccine is because I have preexisting conditions that

01:28:09.840 really are none of your fucking business.

01:28:11.840 Okay.

01:28:12.380 I have high, high hematocrit levels.

01:28:14.460 I have, uh, atrial fibrillation.

01:28:16.900 Okay.

01:28:17.300 I have issues.

01:28:18.080 And most of the issues that are coming on the side effects of this vaccine have to do

01:28:21.740 with the heart.

01:28:22.860 Okay.

01:28:23.300 Especially in men.

01:28:24.520 So I'm not at risk.

01:28:26.280 I've had COVID.

01:28:26.900 I have natural immunity and I am concerned that if I take that vaccine, I will literally

01:28:33.140 fucking die.

01:28:34.540 Okay.

01:28:35.400 So what about those people?

01:28:38.880 And that's why, like in that particular case, right?

01:28:42.940 Yeah.

01:28:43.100 But so I got to come and tell my friends all the fucking shit I got wrong with me.

01:28:46.440 And that's why it's not perfect.

01:28:47.640 Right.

01:28:47.820 There's none.

01:28:48.180 I mean, that's, and that's why just like someone has a choice to get it.

01:28:51.740 Someone doesn't.

01:28:52.440 But I mean, I think like what you're saying, it's like, for example, with my kids, right?

01:28:55.980 There will be a vaccine that'll be available for them.

01:28:58.060 They just had COVID.

01:28:59.220 Do I want to give them a vaccine right now if they just had COVID?

01:29:02.660 Probably not.

01:29:03.340 No.

01:29:04.060 Right.

01:29:04.680 Well, do you want it forced on them by the school?

01:29:06.420 I don't know.

01:29:09.040 I don't know.

01:29:09.580 To be honest with you.

01:29:10.300 But I think the progression there though is, is okay, well then what happens when they don't

01:29:13.920 let your kids go to a different party because of that?

01:29:16.000 Yeah.

01:29:16.280 Like we're slipping down the fucking slope.

01:29:17.980 Wait, wait, wait.

01:29:18.000 What happens when they're saying like this?

01:29:19.780 Because this is what they're fucking saying.

01:29:21.700 What they're actually saying is, what are we going to, and Don Lemon said this on fucking

01:29:25.720 TV.

01:29:26.580 What are we going to do with these unvaccinated people?

01:29:29.600 They're a danger to society.

01:29:32.120 What are we going to do with them?

01:29:33.880 We shouldn't let them get groceries.

01:29:35.540 We shouldn't let them get food.

01:29:36.940 We shouldn't, we should make them be punished.

01:29:39.340 That's what's being said.

01:29:40.680 Now, where does, at what point does that narrative come?

01:29:43.600 These people should be isolated in camps.

01:29:45.500 And then the narrative becomes another year down the road.

01:29:48.640 Well, we just got to kill them because dude, they're not complying and they're costing too

01:29:52.380 much in the camps.

01:29:52.920 Well, let me, let me add to this.

01:29:54.400 If you would have said that it was.

01:29:55.640 This has happened many times before guys, not just in Germany.

01:29:58.400 This has happened over and over and over and over again.

01:30:01.180 If you go study almost any single cleansing of ideology that's ever happened in this

01:30:07.160 planet, it always has to do with this.

01:30:10.240 But if you would have said 18 months ago or two years ago, however fucking long ago it

01:30:13.940 was, that Don Lemon would be on the news saying that there's not.

01:30:17.760 He would be fucking, he would have been fucking put in prison for that.

01:30:21.000 Yeah.

01:30:21.160 And not a mother.

01:30:22.020 You wouldn't fucking believe it.

01:30:23.360 And there's a, there is a portion of society at this point in time that think that's okay.

01:30:27.080 No, no, no, no.

01:30:27.780 In two years.

01:30:28.460 No, no, no, no, dude.

01:30:28.740 There's a huge portion.

01:30:29.820 Yeah.

01:30:30.200 They're like where he comes from and those people where he's saying they see it different.

01:30:35.280 Those people want unvaccinated people to fucking die.

01:30:38.240 I mean, I wouldn't go that far, but I'd say they have, they have strong views towards vaccination.

01:30:42.800 I know this.

01:30:43.760 I know I've seen thousands of medical workers online saying they will not treat people that

01:30:48.780 don't have the vaccine.

01:30:49.780 And those people are not, that's not good people.

01:30:51.760 No, that's not.

01:30:52.680 No.

01:30:53.320 We had a doctor friend of ours tell Sal the other day that he thinks that if you don't

01:30:58.440 have the vaccine, you should sign a fucking waiver that says you don't need to have, you're

01:31:04.240 give up your right to care for someone who's vaccinated while he's drinking a motherfucking

01:31:08.340 bottle of wine and getting ready to drive home.

01:31:10.460 So if you wreck your fucking car because you chose to drink, you shouldn't be treated at

01:31:14.520 the hospital.

01:31:15.300 He shut the fuck up, didn't he?

01:31:17.400 I'm a pretty good negotiator in the argument sector.

01:31:20.620 Jason, I just want to chime in on this on the vaccine thing, man.

01:31:24.100 The problem that I have right now, like I said, whether it's good or bad, you remove

01:31:28.580 my opinion on it.

01:31:30.080 That's hypocritical, is it not?

01:31:31.700 Oh, it's extremely hypocritical.

01:31:33.420 Which one?

01:31:33.880 Which part?

01:31:34.520 That the drink?

01:31:35.640 Oh, the drunk driver?

01:31:37.620 Oh, yeah.

01:31:38.420 But I'm also...

01:31:39.600 So where do we draw the line?

01:31:41.060 See, where the lines get blurred, I mean, the lines get blurred a lot.

01:31:43.880 I don't think as a human being, right?

01:31:45.980 If you treat someone different because of the color of their skin, what they believe

01:31:49.460 in, vaccine, I don't think that's right, right?

01:31:52.220 But there's a big portion of our medical community right now saying that openly online, everywhere.

01:31:57.220 And it's accepted.

01:31:58.240 And like, dude, what is that going to lead to?

01:32:00.040 And that was my point about moving forward, though.

01:32:01.960 And to be clear, Jason didn't say that.

01:32:04.000 One of his friends said that.

01:32:05.220 I want to make sure that's clear.

01:32:06.160 No, no, no, no.

01:32:06.600 But my point being...

01:32:07.480 I get it.

01:32:07.980 Yeah, but my point being is you can't tolerate that.

01:32:10.280 Yeah.

01:32:10.740 Like, that's no different than me saying, me telling Enzo, you can't go hang out with that

01:32:14.140 little boy.

01:32:14.480 He's black.

01:32:15.320 Right.

01:32:15.560 It's no fucking different.

01:32:17.240 I don't give a fuck what you think.

01:32:18.540 They're not smart enough to get the vaccine.

01:32:20.280 Yeah.

01:32:20.580 That's the same thing.

01:32:21.380 That is the fucking most dangerous mountain you can crawl or start sliding down.

01:32:25.260 I think here's the other part, too, Jason, what I was going to say, man, is like,

01:32:27.900 at some point, there has to be common sense, if you will, like, looking at this stuff.

01:32:32.440 Like, what I just had up, that was from the CDC website.

01:32:34.420 Yeah, it took me five minutes while I'm sitting there.

01:32:36.600 Listen, I can pull it up for you.

01:32:38.060 Right.

01:32:38.340 The stats are right there in our face.

01:32:39.880 And so when you talk about, like, how they're trying to justify this stuff, it makes zero,

01:32:44.700 literally zero sense.

01:32:45.620 Right.

01:32:45.780 It's like saying, hey, Jason, you know, you have to wear sunscreen so I don't get sunburn.

01:32:51.440 Right.

01:32:51.960 Yeah.

01:32:52.200 Right.

01:32:52.580 So if you got a room full of five people and four of them are vaccinated, what the fuck

01:32:56.660 is the point of the vaccine?

01:32:57.720 Hold on.

01:32:58.100 What does this sound like to you?

01:33:00.340 Oh, you don't care about black lives because you don't buy into Black Lives Matter?

01:33:04.220 It's the same thing.

01:33:04.320 Because you fucking understand that it is a Ponzi scheme for these other people to take

01:33:10.480 the fucking money.

01:33:11.500 It's the same thing.

01:33:12.040 So you don't support black people.

01:33:13.300 It's the same thing.

01:33:14.500 What's that sound like?

01:33:15.460 It's the same thing.

01:33:16.840 It's the same thing.

01:33:17.700 So it's like driven by the same people.

01:33:19.260 Yeah.

01:33:19.580 Correct.

01:33:19.780 It's the same people.

01:33:20.440 And so my thing is like, so, so, so.

01:33:22.640 And so you got plenty of situations out there where you have people that have preexisting

01:33:26.980 conditions.

01:33:27.820 What about the people that don't know that they have preexisting conditions?

01:33:30.660 Right.

01:33:30.920 Like, like what if I secretly have AFib and I just don't know it?

01:33:33.960 Right.

01:33:34.220 Which is usually the case.

01:33:35.560 Which is a lot of the case.

01:33:36.660 That's over 70% of AFib cases don't even know they have it.

01:33:40.340 Right.

01:33:40.580 And so like there's, there's plenty of situations where this could be really, really bad.

01:33:44.680 Right.

01:33:44.960 And then, and then you have.

01:33:45.680 So I got to take some shit because you don't feel comfortable around me when I have natural

01:33:49.600 immunity because I had the fucking virus that might kill me.

01:33:52.700 How about this?

01:33:53.540 Fuck you.

01:33:54.160 Yeah.

01:33:54.360 But not only that, if that's the case, then you stay home.

01:33:56.280 Right.

01:33:56.460 That's it.

01:33:57.040 And so that's how it should have been handled from the start.

01:33:59.220 Every other pandemic in the history of fucking earth is you protect the vulnerable.

01:34:03.380 You fucking put the at risk and quarantine them and quarantine the sick.

01:34:07.980 You don't quarantine the entire fucking planet.

01:34:10.120 The healthy.

01:34:10.500 You don't do it.

01:34:11.140 We need that.

01:34:11.720 Bacteria flora.

01:34:12.520 But the thing is, man, it's like, so just where do we go from that?

01:34:17.320 Like, I mean, I had a story.

01:34:18.380 I told this story a couple of months ago, man.

01:34:20.520 I'm in the gas station.

01:34:21.440 I'm not I don't have a mask on and there's this old man who's standing at the counter

01:34:25.500 next to me.

01:34:26.020 We're about this far apart.

01:34:26.960 There's a checkout lane here.

01:34:27.840 Checkout lane here.

01:34:28.720 And he has a mask on.

01:34:30.640 He looks at me.

01:34:31.220 He's like, where's your mask?

01:34:33.320 I'm like, don't don't have one.

01:34:35.760 Well, you need to wear a mask.

01:34:36.940 Right.

01:34:37.220 And the whole time, this old man who's getting on me, you're playing fucking lottery tickets,

01:34:41.760 bro.

01:34:42.660 Like, if you're really concerned about your health, oh, man, you should stay home here.

01:34:46.300 That's what I'm like.

01:34:47.040 No, you should just stay home.

01:34:49.140 Got my shit and walked out.

01:34:50.380 You know what I'm saying?

01:34:50.640 But it's like the justifications that we're using.

01:34:53.280 This is a vaccine.

01:34:54.780 This is the fastest fast track vaccine we've ever had.

01:34:57.800 It was rolled out under an emergency use authorization.

01:35:00.700 Where is the data that supports it shows that this stuff even works?

01:35:04.140 Because now what they've done is that anybody if you if you get the vaccine and you die two

01:35:07.880 days after you get the vaccine, they won't even report that or label that as a vaccination

01:35:12.020 death.

01:35:12.780 Well, there's even a step.

01:35:14.040 No, that's correct.

01:35:14.980 No, that's a fact.

01:35:15.620 They are not counting vaccination deaths that happen within 14 days of vaccination.

01:35:22.180 You have to be past the 14 day mark to have it reported to VAERS.

01:35:27.520 What does that tell you?

01:35:29.080 Why not?

01:35:29.500 I'll tell you this.

01:35:31.500 I would take the vaccine if and only if the these pharmaceutical companies could be held

01:35:36.620 responsible for it.

01:35:37.960 Well, I'll take it.

01:35:38.800 Well, no, I mean, I look at I look at it like this.

01:35:40.680 All those people, you know, in the early days of the Trump vaccine, they were it was video

01:35:45.060 after video after video.

01:35:46.340 I would never take that.

01:35:47.420 There's not a chance I'd take that.

01:35:48.980 That man is tyrannical.

01:35:50.380 That man.

01:35:50.840 There's no way I would do that.

01:35:52.340 The exact same.

01:35:53.020 This is this is the hypocrisy we're dealing with.

01:35:54.840 You can.

01:35:55.040 In fact, I'd shared the video.

01:35:56.300 It's one of the only videos I've shared and they took it right down.

01:35:58.940 They you flip the narrative and they watch the exact same people talking about how it's

01:36:03.080 mandated and you have to take it.

01:36:04.740 It's like, wait a minute.

01:36:06.240 No, like nobody finds us to be your memories that short.

01:36:10.200 You don't think about these people who are just bashing this fucking thing now promoting

01:36:14.260 it to the fucking gills.

01:36:15.460 It's like, yeah, I think what's important and I hope this is just super, super clear.

01:36:20.540 I think that each person should make the best decision for them.

01:36:22.960 I think if you're from a high risk category, I would recommend for you to get a vaccine

01:36:26.940 based on what I've seen.

01:36:27.760 We've had doctors on the show say the same thing.

01:36:29.660 Yeah.

01:36:29.840 And I think for me and my family, we make the best decision we can for our friends.

01:36:34.380 And if you want to get it, go for it.

01:36:36.300 That's how I feel too.

01:36:37.180 If you don't want to get it, that's your decision.

01:36:38.820 For sure.

01:36:39.180 I don't think anybody should be forced, forced, forced.

01:36:41.900 I don't think that's fair to do anything.

01:36:43.340 Do you think people should be exiled from society?

01:36:45.500 No.

01:36:45.840 And I think that's really troubling.

01:36:47.520 I really do.

01:36:48.060 Because I think that just stands against what I believe in.

01:36:53.640 You should be able to make decisions that are best for you.

01:36:56.640 And then those around you can decide, hey, if you're a bad person, you shouldn't be hanging

01:37:01.860 out with that person.

01:37:02.560 But if you just decide not to get a vaccine or get it, and you made the best decision you

01:37:06.460 could, like if you, for example, have heart disease or heart challenges, that's a decision

01:37:12.300 you're making based on all the information out there.

01:37:14.920 And if that's what's best for you, you should do what's best for you.

01:37:17.720 But bro, the problem is, is that if I say I'm going to do what's best for me and not

01:37:20.900 do it, I can't go to fucking this.

01:37:22.460 I can't go to theaters.

01:37:23.440 I can't go to restaurants.

01:37:24.460 I can't go to the blues game.

01:37:25.900 Yeah.

01:37:26.800 Yeah.

01:37:26.980 That's fucking bullshit.

01:37:28.220 That's tough.

01:37:29.000 I mean, that's, I don't know.

01:37:32.080 Yeah.

01:37:32.720 And how those decisions are being made is very difficult.

01:37:34.900 Well, they're making those decisions, bro, because the social pressure is very great from

01:37:39.020 a loud minority.

01:37:40.360 80% of people agree with what the fuck I'm saying.

01:37:43.140 And that's proven by the polls.

01:37:44.920 There was a poll done on Yahoo that is, Yahoo is high, far leaning left.

01:37:50.480 Okay.

01:37:51.280 The 80% of people said that they would not support a business or an organization that

01:37:56.700 mandated vaccines to, to come in and be a customer of that.

01:38:02.880 Watch, I'll get you one.

01:38:03.680 I'll get you one.

01:38:04.200 And we, we touched on it yesterday and got interrupted, but your charity Avis Kitchen.

01:38:08.540 Yeah.

01:38:09.020 Right.

01:38:09.540 Yep.

01:38:09.760 March 5th, February 5th, February 5th.

01:38:13.740 You asked me if I'd come.

01:38:15.140 Yep.

01:38:15.540 I can't.

01:38:17.500 Yeah.

01:38:17.980 Cause they probably, I probably can't get into a restaurant.

01:38:20.540 I probably can't.

01:38:21.240 So we just, I have to go to fucking California Saturday.

01:38:24.180 I had to rent a house.

01:38:25.680 I can't stay at a hotel.

01:38:27.220 I can't fucking go to a hotel.

01:38:29.060 I had to rent a motherfucking house and I can't go to restaurants.

01:38:32.960 I'm going to have to have food brought in.

01:38:34.540 What are you going to?

01:38:35.800 LA.

01:38:36.120 But, but my point being is like, okay, now I'm in an interesting spot, right?

01:38:40.780 Like, you know, I support your, your, your cause.

01:38:43.280 I'm a fly across country to do it for your daughter in a heartbeat.

01:38:47.460 When I show up, they don't let me in.

01:38:48.740 What do you do?

01:38:51.560 I mean, it's, this is, this is.

01:38:53.100 When I sit at the table with your friends that, you know what I'm saying?

01:38:55.640 Am I less than?

01:38:56.960 Well, so these are the conversations that are happening all across the country.

01:38:59.400 And I think you got to handle it with a little level of kind of.

01:39:02.260 I don't know that they are happening.

01:39:03.480 I like this because I don't know that these are happening.

01:39:05.260 This is weird for most people.

01:39:06.520 No, I think you need to handle it with like, for lack of a better term, like some grace,

01:39:09.940 some common sense and some like that just human.

01:39:13.160 Like, and I think for you, like if the state and county guidelines are vaccination status,

01:39:17.660 like I think the business is going to have to have that right now.

01:39:20.200 That's not the case.

01:39:21.080 And I hope it doesn't become the case because I think that people should be able to go there.

01:39:27.020 But if it was, then you'd probably have, you'd have to uphold it, right?

01:39:31.180 Because you have to draw a line and say, Hey, we're going to abide by state and county.

01:39:33.880 And in that particular case, the 49ers seating, right?

01:39:36.480 That event is at the 49ers seating.

01:39:38.120 So that becomes a bigger issue, right?

01:39:40.460 Is they're going to draw a line for the event, essentially.

01:39:44.800 Whatever they draw, then the event has to abide by it.

01:39:47.700 But you bring up a really big point.

01:39:49.200 When is enough enough?

01:39:50.060 Right.

01:39:50.480 No.

01:39:50.680 And that's a really big point.

01:39:52.300 That it's not when's enough enough.

01:39:54.980 There's two points I'd like to make here.

01:39:56.440 One, it's, I want you to teleport your brain back to 2000 fucking 18.

01:40:01.580 The fact that we're even talking about this shit is insane.

01:40:05.320 Think if we had a conversation back when we did our first show together and I said, Hey,

01:40:09.580 they're going to keep people from going to events.

01:40:12.760 They're going to keep you from going to restaurants.

01:40:14.500 They're going to fire them for their jobs.

01:40:16.320 What would you feel about that?

01:40:17.680 Then we would have all said, Holy fuck, we got to stop it right now.

01:40:21.940 Dude, it would be madness.

01:40:23.100 Dude, that's what I'm saying.

01:40:23.860 But now people have been slowly indoctrinated into it.

01:40:27.560 Like I said, with the mask where you get used to it and you're like, Oh, this isn't that

01:40:31.040 bad.

01:40:31.540 It's like boiling the frog in water.

01:40:33.340 And like, I just want everybody to go back to 2000 fucking 18 and think about how you

01:40:37.740 would think about all of this shit you're observing, all this shit in Australia, in

01:40:42.540 Canada, in Europe, these leaders doing this shit like Gavin did where he went out to fucking

01:40:47.440 dude, this is absurd insanity that we're even having the motherfucking discussion.

01:40:53.400 At all.

01:40:54.560 In 2018, if one of your friends would have said, I'm not hanging out with that man, because

01:40:57.660 he didn't get the flu shot.

01:40:58.400 He would have been canceled on the internet.

01:40:59.880 Not only you canceled the internet, you wouldn't hang out with that guy.

01:41:01.920 Yeah.

01:41:03.080 I mean, look, dude, we are lost.

01:41:05.420 Yeah.

01:41:05.660 We are lost.

01:41:06.440 And we are at a point of high importance and a critical time to stand for what's right.

01:41:14.580 And dude, if we don't, you can continue.

01:41:16.940 You can expect to continue to see this rolled out.

01:41:19.400 This is a 10 year plan.

01:41:20.660 We're in year fucking two of it and you're going to not own shit.

01:41:25.240 Just like they said, we all saw the video 2030, you won't own anything and you'll love

01:41:29.860 it.

01:41:30.120 That's the whole fucking plan.

01:41:31.940 Okay.

01:41:32.360 This is a, this is a communist ideology takeover.

01:41:35.820 They are looking to eliminate freedom ideology from the entire planet at one time with one

01:41:41.540 program.

01:41:42.040 And anybody who resists is going to end up in those camps and those camps will end up being

01:41:46.340 death camps.

01:41:46.920 That's a fucking, that's what I see happening.

01:41:49.340 So if we, you could say that's extreme, you could say that's whatever.

01:41:53.040 That's what I observe happening.

01:41:55.480 And it's not about health.

01:41:56.880 If it was about health, like I said, we'd be making fat people run.

01:42:00.980 We'd be making them work out.

01:42:02.300 We'd be making them get healthy.

01:42:03.560 If this was really killing everybody, people would be staying the fuck home.

01:42:07.500 They wouldn't be at the grocery store pointing the finger at the one guy without a mask

01:42:10.560 saying, fuck you.

01:42:11.660 They wouldn't be going to sporting events.

01:42:12.760 They wouldn't be doing shit.

01:42:13.660 I think it just goes back to, you know, what are you standing for?

01:42:17.160 You know?

01:42:17.400 And so like, you know, and you do that differently in different ways based off.

01:42:20.300 If you were scared, bro, you wouldn't fucking do shit.

01:42:22.760 No.

01:42:22.980 You would not be going to a restaurant.

01:42:24.520 You wouldn't be going to a fucking football game.

01:42:26.660 If you were truly scared of this shit, you wouldn't be doing anything.

01:42:30.480 Yeah.

01:42:30.660 And I would just say like, again, I would just say that I think people, I know that people

01:42:35.460 have strong views both ways.

01:42:36.540 Yeah.

01:42:36.680 Yeah.

01:42:36.860 I think it's important that we also listen to each other and have a conversation.

01:42:39.600 This is a great conversation.

01:42:40.500 I think that you become so, and like you and I were talking about, Sal, like through

01:42:47.420 experience, your perspective shifts, right?

01:42:51.360 Yeah.

01:42:51.520 And you don't know what different people's perspective might be.

01:42:54.460 For example, you with talking about the vaccine, or for example, me getting tested twice a week

01:42:58.820 for a year for COVID.

01:42:59.880 Someone said, fuck, forget you.

01:43:01.520 Like the reason why I'm doing this is this.

01:43:03.320 I don't need to justify it.

01:43:04.360 That's correct.

01:43:05.060 And bro, you know what?

01:43:06.040 I think that you did the responsible thing considering the circumstances you were in.

01:43:10.120 That's the right thing to do.

01:43:10.500 I would have done the same thing.

01:43:11.720 I would have done the same thing.

01:43:12.500 But that's because my perspective was, and I think that if we could just take a 360 view

01:43:16.640 at this and like put ourselves in different people's shoes.

01:43:18.980 Now you might not disagree or agree, but I mean this whole like the tension and the argument,

01:43:25.040 like it's not helping anybody, right?

01:43:26.920 I think that more stuff like this needs to occur where people start actually talking and

01:43:31.940 discussing.

01:43:32.420 And, you know, you probably have more things in common than you actually think.

01:43:36.200 Oh, for sure.

01:43:36.740 You know, the outcome, I don't know if it's as extreme as I would agree.

01:43:39.700 Yeah.

01:43:39.920 You're going down.

01:43:40.640 Yeah.

01:43:40.840 But that's okay.

01:43:41.360 I'll still listen to you, you know?

01:43:43.160 And I-

01:43:43.480 Well, we're going to find out, won't we?

01:43:44.520 For sure.

01:43:45.360 I hope we don't find out.

01:43:46.220 Are you going to fight for us?

01:43:48.880 Here's my question for you.

01:43:50.480 What would it take for you to observe, for you to agree with what I just said?

01:43:55.660 At what point would you say, holy shit, Andy's right.

01:43:58.800 This is actually happening.

01:43:59.600 Because it's happening in Australia right now.

01:44:03.300 Yeah.

01:44:03.680 You're seeing signs of it there for sure.

01:44:07.140 I think, I think, in particular, the vaccine passports, I mean, it's getting close to a

01:44:17.020 point where I think it's really infringing, obviously, on people's, I mean, I think it's

01:44:20.420 already there, right?

01:44:21.200 It's already there.

01:44:21.640 But here's what I'm asking.

01:44:23.140 What event has to happen to get you to say, holy shit, they fucked us and they're going

01:44:28.500 to do this?

01:44:29.720 I don't know if you could really, I'm probably already there, right?

01:44:32.960 But then the question is, if we're there, what can be done?

01:44:37.200 And that's the reason why I'm asking the questions to you, because I already think that the community

01:44:40.760 has been divided so much, right?

01:44:42.400 And that people have, but I hope it doesn't get much worse in terms of like military type

01:44:47.620 stuff and that kind of thing.

01:44:48.720 Me and you both.

01:44:49.620 That's the next escalation, which is way down the line.

01:44:52.620 Let me ask you this, just as a, why do you think, and I want you to really, I want all

01:44:59.580 of you to really think about why they're doing this.

01:45:01.740 Why are they kicking so many people out of the military for refusing the vaccine?

01:45:08.140 I know the answer because, well, I mean, if you take the military, we just talked about

01:45:12.720 this last night on the way home, talk about the strength of the military and who's willing

01:45:16.120 to stand up against it, most likely the most dominant person or the strongest characteristic

01:45:19.960 trait person in the, in, in the military.

01:45:22.640 And if you can eliminate those people and identify them first, then you have a military

01:45:26.420 that's much more compliant and that's much more docile.

01:45:28.960 Exactly what's happening.

01:45:29.620 And who do they need?

01:45:30.680 Same thing with the police force.

01:45:31.680 That's right.

01:45:32.080 It's happening in police and it's happening in every government agency.

01:45:35.360 They're kicking out all the people that disagree with the narrative.

01:45:38.520 You know why they're doing that?

01:45:39.740 So they can enforce the shit on the streets like they're doing in Australia right now.

01:45:43.860 And those motherfuckers are going to come on the streets.

01:45:46.120 So bro, they're going to come on the streets and motherfuckers with guns are going to kill

01:45:49.720 them.

01:45:50.320 That's what's going to happen.

01:45:51.440 Jason, let me ask you this.

01:45:52.300 Maybe it's not an event that, you know, that they said, oh shit.

01:45:55.300 Okay.

01:45:55.540 It's worse.

01:45:56.740 How, how long are you willing for it to be like it is for, I mean, how long are you

01:46:01.480 willing to deal with, deal with how shit is right now?

01:46:04.100 How long are you willing to deal with it?

01:46:05.920 Right.

01:46:06.140 Cause what if it doesn't get worse?

01:46:07.600 Let's say, let's say all, you know, all the Australia stuff, that shit never happens.

01:46:11.440 But are you, how long are you willing to, to continue to live how it is going right

01:46:15.540 now?

01:46:15.800 How long are you willing to stay in there?

01:46:17.120 You mean the divisiveness or the actual rules and regulations?

01:46:19.300 All of it, the rules and regulations.

01:46:21.460 I mean, I'll live with it as long as it, it's not at a point where like, I don't know what

01:46:26.960 the other option would be.

01:46:28.200 As I guess what I'm trying to say, like, I don't think it's good the way that the country

01:46:31.680 is, the way that the divisiveness and, but what is the solution?

01:46:35.880 Um, I mean, Andy was talking about his tour, which I think could be a really cool idea.

01:46:40.460 Sure.

01:46:40.880 But I mean, we're talking, it's going to take a while to get past this.

01:46:44.220 Um, I think, I think it's also, I realized I just dumped some real fucking hard shit on

01:46:49.900 people whenever I've just walked out to take pee.

01:46:52.260 But here's the thing, guys.

01:46:53.740 Uh, well, dude, like they're going to kill him.

01:46:56.580 Like, that's not what I think.

01:46:58.220 So this is why, so I want to add to that, right?

01:47:00.920 Like, cause a lot of people are going to hear that and they're going to be like, holy fuck,

01:47:03.140 you're aggressive.

01:47:03.820 No, I'm not saying that.

01:47:05.160 I'm not saying I'm going to go do that.

01:47:07.040 I'm saying there are people that will do that.

01:47:09.160 Okay.

01:47:09.600 A lot of them.

01:47:10.260 Yes.

01:47:10.580 A whole lot of them.

01:47:11.660 Okay.

01:47:11.960 So here's the thing.

01:47:14.160 And this is why I keep harping on the same message with you guys to get involved.

01:47:19.200 Okay.

01:47:20.760 If people get involved now, if they go to the school board meetings, if they educate themselves,

01:47:25.960 if they try to get involved in the civic discussions and, and start working towards

01:47:31.560 this, right?

01:47:33.020 I believe we can keep all of this nasty shit from happening.

01:47:36.460 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:37.480 Like we have, we have a problem of apathy.

01:47:40.100 And when, when, when the smart, reasonable people on both sides of the aisle, uh, take a

01:47:46.640 fucking 20, 30 year vacation to go build their lives, we shouldn't be surprised that when

01:47:52.200 we look back, the fucking circus is running the show.

01:47:54.980 You know what I'm saying?

01:47:55.600 Like it's, so we have to get involved.

01:47:58.480 And if we get involved, regardless of, of political ideologies, um, that align with freedom,

01:48:05.300 right?

01:48:05.620 Like if you're a communist, like you don't belong in this country, you should go to a

01:48:09.120 communist country.

01:48:10.040 That's just the fucking way it should be.

01:48:11.860 Like if you think communism is great, you should move to a communist country.

01:48:16.280 This is not a communist country.

01:48:17.980 This is a fucking free country.

01:48:20.040 And we have, you know, people feel afraid to even say that, well, we have to accept all

01:48:24.680 these people.

01:48:25.560 No, we don't.

01:48:26.560 That's a fucking conflicting ideology.

01:48:28.320 And that ideology has killed more people than literally anything in the history of the

01:48:33.300 planet.

01:48:33.920 Any event, any war, any other fucking thing.

01:48:37.840 Communism has killed more people, any disease.

01:48:41.160 Okay.

01:48:41.760 That's a fact.

01:48:42.640 Go look it up.

01:48:43.780 Here's the thing.

01:48:45.400 If we get involved, we can stop and push this shit out.

01:48:49.340 Okay.

01:48:49.640 The teachers who forced these kids, like what we just watched on the video, or like that

01:48:53.940 teacher out in, uh, California, that Gabriel gate or whatever, whatever his name was, who

01:48:58.780 had a, has a hammer and sickle tattoo on his chest.

01:49:02.520 Who's standing in the, in his class, making kids pledge allegiance to the fucking Antifa

01:49:08.300 flag.

01:49:09.000 Okay.

01:49:10.020 That shit has no place in America at all.

01:49:12.860 And I don't think, I don't think anybody here can disagree with that.

01:49:15.840 No place.

01:49:16.880 And we have to understand that our enemy is not liberals or people who think more left

01:49:22.280 or people who just aren't agreeing with us.

01:49:24.800 Those are not our enemy.

01:49:25.620 Our enemy is people who have a whole lot of fucking money who pushing this division down

01:49:30.160 the pipe, who are making us believe that we all hate each other and who are allowing

01:49:34.320 things that are counterproductive to American society and American freedom to infiltrate

01:49:39.580 our, our country, not even allowing it, pushing it in.

01:49:43.240 And so like, dude, once people understand that this is not truly about health, which I think

01:49:47.660 they're starting to realize because everybody's getting sick of the tyranny, they're going to

01:49:52.120 wake up.

01:49:52.560 They're going to say, well, what is this really about them?

01:49:55.680 Well, they're going to say, well, it must be Democrat Republican.

01:49:58.480 I think a lot of people are thinking that right now.

01:49:59.920 They think it's a Democrat Republican thing.

01:50:01.960 It's not that it has nothing to do with that.

01:50:04.580 They want you to think that.

01:50:05.580 So you don't see what's actually happening, which is an insurgency of communism coming

01:50:09.400 to America that will destroy our entire country and our way of life.

01:50:13.700 No matter who you are, there's not one person out there listening to this, whose life will

01:50:17.780 be better from communism.

01:50:19.360 All of you will suffer all of you.

01:50:21.760 And so once people wake up and here's my concern that people won't wake up to that until

01:50:26.700 it's already too late.

01:50:27.620 And that's why I've, bro, that's why I changed the whole name of my show.

01:50:32.020 That's why I went away from MFCEO project.

01:50:34.640 That's why I went away from talking about money all the time and success and wealth and

01:50:38.540 all this shit that I'm one of the best in the world at fucking coaching on.

01:50:41.620 The reason I went away from that is because without freedom, we don't even have a chance

01:50:46.660 for anyone.

01:50:47.080 So that's where I'm coming from, guys.

01:50:52.320 Like, bro, I love the fact that you ask an interesting questions.

01:50:56.680 You know what I'm saying?

01:50:57.380 Like, they're good questions.

01:50:59.540 He's my token Californian.

01:51:01.300 We have good talks.

01:51:01.880 Bro, listen, I talk to Hany every day.

01:51:04.420 You know, I talk to my guys in California, Fleischman and these other dudes.

01:51:07.400 I talk to them daily.

01:51:08.920 Like, but that's the, I think that's the challenge about being surrounded by so many

01:51:12.820 people who are thinking the same.

01:51:14.560 You know what I'm saying?

01:51:14.960 Like, it's hard to see these other perspectives.

01:51:17.160 You come to a place like Missouri.

01:51:19.200 Like, don't get me wrong.

01:51:20.180 Like, everybody's not thinking like us either here.

01:51:22.120 You know what I'm saying?

01:51:22.640 Like, there's still, you still got your people that like, no, like they have a different

01:51:25.640 point of view, a different perspective.

01:51:26.760 Right.

01:51:27.120 Well, dude, and people will say, oh, dude, you sound like some Alex Jones conspiracy shit.

01:51:31.040 No, I don't.

01:51:31.800 No.

01:51:32.020 Because he's talking about motherfucking lizard people and shit.

01:51:34.360 Yeah, he's going way over there.

01:51:34.860 Like, I'm talking about an actual insert.

01:51:37.800 I actually think that they put these people out there, and I'm not saying him, but I'm

01:51:41.860 saying they put these people out there who say a bunch of crazy shit to make everybody

01:51:45.620 look crazy.

01:51:46.860 Okay?

01:51:47.300 So, I'm not talking crazy.

01:51:49.000 I'm talking what's happening, dude.

01:51:50.660 Like, the shit's happening.

01:51:54.740 Like, they just had a kid on Australia.

01:51:57.320 I forget the kid's name.

01:51:58.380 Um, Tommy Vex posted it and showed it to me, but he was speaking up against the cops, telling

01:52:04.800 the cops, like, hey, you need to stand with the people.

01:52:06.580 And they beat the fuck out of this kid, like, almost to death, like, fractured his skull,

01:52:11.400 beat the shit out of him, because he's telling the cops, like, hey, guys, your job is to protect

01:52:16.120 us.

01:52:16.640 Your job is to stand with us.

01:52:18.080 Your job is to stand with our constitution.

01:52:20.060 And, like, that's what I'm kind of worried about now.

01:52:22.520 Now they're weeding out all these people at the police force.

01:52:25.120 They're weeding out all these people at the military.

01:52:27.140 They're keeping only the compliant.

01:52:29.660 And those compliant police and military will come on and do, they will come through the

01:52:33.920 street and do anything the government tells them.

01:52:36.060 And, dude, that's dangerous.

01:52:37.480 So, you guys who are police officers and you guys who are military listening to the show,

01:52:41.200 which there's a fuck ton of you, it's very, very, very, very, very important that you

01:52:45.940 don't just leave.

01:52:47.480 You have to fight it there.

01:52:48.920 It's a very important thing.

01:52:51.060 Okay?

01:52:51.460 Because if you leave, if you good people leave who actually stand for, because that's

01:52:56.000 what the military and the police are designed to do.

01:52:57.660 They're designed to protect the people from the government, not protect the government from

01:53:02.020 the people.

01:53:02.700 If you guys leave and you abandon everybody and leave only the people who are willing to

01:53:08.080 do anything they say for a dollar, you are literally fucking the whole entire country

01:53:12.520 over.

01:53:12.720 So, you guys who are in these battles, I feel for you, help you, do whatever we can

01:53:19.860 do to support, but don't leave, don't quit, organize, stand together, do what's right.

01:53:24.880 Because, dude, we have to have some leaders step up with some backbones to protect the

01:53:29.340 right of these people, because otherwise this is going to keep going and going and going

01:53:32.180 and going and going.

01:53:33.500 And, you know, I told you where I see it going, I'm not often wrong, you know, like

01:53:40.680 I'm not.

01:53:42.020 So, I hope I am wrong.

01:53:45.720 But, I mean, like, dude, all signs indicate this is where the fuck we're going.

01:53:49.660 I mean, if you study history, this shit has happened many times before.

01:53:54.460 So, you know, I know it's a hard thing to swallow and I know it's scary and I know it's

01:53:58.160 this, but that's why I'm urgent and that's why we need people to help get involved.

01:54:04.520 Like, dude, what's going on at your kid's school?

01:54:07.240 What's going on with their education?

01:54:08.440 What's going on with these mandates that don't have scientific backing?

01:54:11.880 Why are we pushing this?

01:54:12.900 Why are we doing this?

01:54:13.680 Why are we doing this?

01:54:14.620 And the other thing I think that needs to be said is, like, organizations like the Blues,

01:54:19.000 right?

01:54:19.380 Like, you guys are out there and you think you're doing the right thing.

01:54:21.840 And I understand that you've been under the gun for a couple years, but don't you think

01:54:25.480 they purposely put you under the gun so you would have to enforce these policies?

01:54:29.260 Don't you think that you are actually emboldening these communist tendencies by pushing this shit

01:54:35.040 on to people?

01:54:35.980 Like, you're helping the agenda by doing so.

01:54:39.600 Dude, if I owned the team, I couldn't sleep at night knowing that.

01:54:42.680 I just couldn't.

01:54:44.320 Just who the fuck I am.

01:54:46.360 So...

01:54:46.800 Which is exactly what they're doing in St. Louis with the Blues exactly.

01:54:49.880 What do you mean?

01:54:50.580 No, that's it.

01:54:51.060 I mean, the city of St. Louis hasn't given them any support for the last five years.

01:54:57.060 St. Louis City also has one of the strongest mandates that...

01:55:00.540 I mean, they're pushing all of that.

01:55:01.960 So, hey, Blues, push that.

01:55:03.600 Here's a million dollars for your stadium upgrades.

01:55:05.720 Here's another...

01:55:06.460 You know, here's three years free lease.

01:55:08.140 Bro, I guarantee you if they said...

01:55:09.700 If they came out today and said, you know what?

01:55:12.080 We thought about it.

01:55:13.440 We're not doing that shit.

01:55:14.480 They'd have the best fucking year they ever have.

01:55:16.300 Oh, yeah.

01:55:16.920 It would be...

01:55:17.580 I'd go.

01:55:18.320 I would go to every fucking game.

01:55:20.240 I would go to every game.

01:55:21.520 I would fucking donate fucking millions of dollars to their fucking organization.

01:55:25.500 I would support them.

01:55:26.380 And, bro, I'm not the only one.

01:55:28.160 I've spoken to every single business owner that has anybody in St. Louis, and they're

01:55:32.120 all with it.

01:55:33.100 So, like, if they want to make a smart business decision, they'll actually stick their finger

01:55:37.680 into the street-level community and understand the temperature.

01:55:42.260 And the temperature definitely here is not mandating fucking vaccines and forcing people

01:55:47.520 to show papers and forcing people to disclose medical conditions to go to a motherfucking

01:55:52.500 hockey game.

01:55:53.440 The fan base of the St. Louis Blues is a blue-collar fan base.

01:55:57.140 That's where I come from.

01:55:58.700 That's where he comes from.

01:56:00.020 That's where all these motherfuckers here come from.

01:56:02.440 Okay?

01:56:03.360 We like WWE.

01:56:05.140 All right?

01:56:05.800 And monster trucks.

01:56:06.580 For real.

01:56:07.000 And NHRA.

01:56:07.760 Yeah.

01:56:08.400 And John Brown.

01:56:09.120 We like race cars.

01:56:10.540 We're...

01:56:11.340 You want to call us hillbillies?

01:56:12.700 Whatever the fuck you want.

01:56:13.520 I don't care.

01:56:14.340 It's who the fuck we are.

01:56:15.800 And we ain't about it.

01:56:16.540 And these blues, the guys that own the blues, are elite dudes who have lost touch with the

01:56:22.920 temperature of the fan base.

01:56:24.180 And it will hurt them tremendously financially if they don't come back and say, hey, you know

01:56:29.960 what?

01:56:30.220 We thought about it.

01:56:32.280 We're going to go back to this.

01:56:33.920 It's not our business.

01:56:35.620 You handle your own personal responsibility.

01:56:37.800 Because that's what America is about, isn't it?

01:56:39.280 Isn't America about personal responsibility?

01:56:41.680 Isn't it about making sure that you're healthy, making sure that your family's healthy, making

01:56:45.540 sure you're doing the thing?

01:56:46.700 Like, dude, I have a major problem with the 80% of the people who are...

01:56:51.420 The stats show, 80% of the people who are fatal with COVID are fucking obese.

01:56:57.840 I have a major problem with somebody who's not willing to do shit.

01:57:01.160 When we've been locked down, our businesses have been locked down.

01:57:03.620 We've all been fucked with for 500, almost 600 days now.

01:57:08.360 Dude, can you change your health in 600 days?

01:57:11.280 Oh, yeah.

01:57:11.640 You can change your health in 600 days.

01:57:12.760 Can you change it completely?

01:57:14.240 Yeah.

01:57:14.420 We've seen a lot of people go one way or another.

01:57:16.840 We've seen a lot of people transform and lose a ton of weight and do amazing things.

01:57:21.880 Seemed the opposite way, too.

01:57:23.040 Correct.

01:57:23.780 But they have the...

01:57:25.360 They have the ability.

01:57:25.940 Agree or disagree.

01:57:26.920 Yeah.

01:57:27.040 Everybody has had the opportunity to get healthy.

01:57:29.020 Yep.

01:57:30.740 So why the fuck are we still pandering to people who didn't?

01:57:35.820 Because I can tell you this, bro.

01:57:37.500 You know me.

01:57:38.540 Was I fucking fatter when I saw you last time?

01:57:41.020 You look good, man.

01:57:41.860 Okay.

01:57:42.340 Yeah.

01:57:42.940 I know you talked to Hani.

01:57:44.700 Yeah.

01:57:45.100 Hani's been...

01:57:45.620 Hani's my dude.

01:57:46.440 Yeah.

01:57:46.760 All right?

01:57:47.280 One of my very, very, very best friends.

01:57:49.340 A great man who also has had some very serious COVID hardships.

01:57:54.460 Okay?

01:57:54.720 If you had the opportunity to get healthy and you didn't, you don't have a fucking dog in

01:58:02.520 this race anymore, bro.

01:58:03.640 Not with me.

01:58:04.780 I don't care.

01:58:06.000 Because you know what?

01:58:06.780 I've missed eight fucking days in almost 600.

01:58:10.600 I'm lazy.

01:58:12.140 All right?

01:58:12.680 I'm a fucking slacker.

01:58:14.580 If I could take control of my shit and get healthy, so the fuck can you.

01:58:18.900 So stay the fuck away from me with that argument.

01:58:21.160 Because it ain't right.

01:58:22.000 You're now wanting your laziness and your lack of activity and your lack of taking personal

01:58:27.340 responsibility.

01:58:28.340 You want the world to bend over a barrel to accommodate you.

01:58:31.480 I ain't fucking with it.

01:58:32.960 Everybody should be doing their part.

01:58:34.780 And it is what it is.

01:58:36.460 Like, bro, you got some weight to lose.

01:58:38.320 You should be losing it.

01:58:39.260 It is what it is.

01:58:41.300 So, you know, what else am I going to say?

01:58:45.400 I can't hear it from someone who hasn't stayed at home, done nothing, contributes nothing,

01:58:52.860 doesn't take care of themselves, doesn't even take it serious.

01:58:55.140 I can't fucking do it.

01:58:56.300 Here's what I can do, though.

01:58:57.580 I can put out an extreme diet program that is transformed.

01:59:01.160 That's the other thing that pisses me off about that shit, bro.

01:59:04.000 And I'm not saying this to be a fucking arrogant asshole.

01:59:06.240 There may be some people more than me.

01:59:07.760 There might be some people who transform more lives than us.

01:59:10.640 Maybe.

01:59:11.020 I don't know of any.

01:59:11.780 I don't know of a single person who's had more impact on people's fucking mental and

01:59:15.600 physical health in the last two years than myself.

01:59:18.100 And that's being, that's not being egotistical.

01:59:20.580 That's a stat.

01:59:21.140 That's a matter of fact.

01:59:22.360 I have literally hundreds of millions of hashtags from that program.

01:59:26.380 Hundred.

01:59:26.800 Think about that.

01:59:27.820 Hundreds of millions.

01:59:30.480 Okay.

01:59:31.060 So I've done my part.

01:59:32.320 I've taken care of myself.

01:59:34.040 I've put out programs.

01:59:35.380 I've been there for other people.

01:59:36.600 I've helped them guide them to where they, where they are more healthy mentally and physically

01:59:40.280 during this whole pandemic.

01:59:41.780 And I've led by example.

01:59:43.300 I haven't missed fucking, I missed eight days, bro.

01:59:46.120 And 600.

01:59:48.140 So what the fuck you got for me, dude?

01:59:51.960 There ain't no holes in my motherfucking game.

01:59:54.720 There just isn't.

01:59:56.120 And you guys can poke at me all you want, but you ain't gonna find any fucking holes.

01:59:59.600 Okay.

02:00:00.000 And I think if we really want to get back on track, everybody should aspire to that.

02:00:03.760 Everybody should aspire to be what they say they're about.

02:00:07.200 Everybody should aspire to take control of their own health.

02:00:09.420 Everybody should aspire and take responsibility for their physical condition and their mental

02:00:13.840 condition.

02:00:14.380 And I think if everybody did that, things will look a lot better.

02:00:19.520 Final thoughts.

02:00:20.220 I think we should, you know, part of your, part of the tour and the concept of the tour

02:00:25.540 is to, you know, show the importance of capitalism, right?

02:00:28.700 I think the other thing after, after the, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

02:00:31.640 I'm trying to work on this.

02:00:32.740 I've got it written up there on the board.

02:00:33.880 It says, let people talk.

02:00:34.980 It's been up there for like 10 weeks.

02:00:36.300 Hey, I've been doing better.

02:00:38.780 I've been getting better.

02:00:39.740 Maybe slowly.

02:00:40.620 I'm getting better.

02:00:41.720 But here's the thing.

02:00:42.800 Progress over perfection.

02:00:43.800 That's right.

02:00:44.720 Here, look.

02:00:46.660 Here's one thing I thought about while we're having this conversation.

02:00:48.680 I think it would be good to have people who have different viewpoints to come on that

02:00:51.900 tour with me and do some Q&As.

02:00:54.020 And that's like, like Jason, we don't see everything exactly the same, but I feel very

02:00:58.040 good after having this conversation.

02:00:59.720 Like, I feel like we had a productive conversation.

02:01:01.780 I think we did too.

02:01:02.520 And that's a good thing.

02:01:05.100 Yeah, but isn't that what people need to see?

02:01:06.920 That's what people need to see.

02:01:08.420 What people need to see is, hi, I'm Sal.

02:01:10.820 I'm unvaccinated.

02:01:12.520 Hi, I'm Jason.

02:01:13.220 I'm vaccinated.

02:01:14.480 And we can be friends.

02:01:15.940 And we can sit next to each other and we can share a burrito.

02:01:19.560 No, I think, you know, talk about, you know, doing your part, right?

02:01:24.780 It's part of your role.

02:01:25.860 I think a huge part of this is, you know, when you look at brick and mortar, brick and

02:01:29.260 mortar is the backbone of society.

02:01:30.900 It's the backbone of economy.

02:01:32.520 And, you know, who's won here?

02:01:34.140 The big player, Amazon's won big in the last, you know, 700 days.

02:01:38.420 I think, you know, they have small business Saturday and I've been actually meaning to

02:01:41.980 talk to you about this, but I think, you know, we should take an initiative.

02:01:44.800 Maybe it's the month of October to say whether it's not, I'm not canceling Amazon.

02:01:48.340 That's not, I'm not part of the cancel culture, but it's like, hey, can you shop locally

02:01:51.020 in October?

02:01:51.680 Can you make the decision, the inconvenient decision to make it a little bit harder to go support

02:01:56.680 somebody locally?

02:01:57.860 Maybe it's an ace true value hardware store versus Home Depot.

02:02:00.700 Hey, I can get down with that.

02:02:01.820 It's not going to be fucking fun.

02:02:02.920 It's a little bit further drive.

02:02:04.480 But I think, you know, playing your role in society, that's a small role that we can all

02:02:08.880 play.

02:02:09.240 Yeah.

02:02:09.500 You know, supporting the local CEO, you know, who's not, you know, I mean, you guys, to

02:02:14.000 be a small business owner, man, that's fucking hard.

02:02:16.600 Yeah.

02:02:16.940 And it's been really fucking hard the last two years.

02:02:19.180 And I think identifying that, that, hey man, these people have stuck it out.

02:02:22.800 They're grinding through it.

02:02:24.960 Like, how can you help?

02:02:25.960 Well, you can help the local guy and taking the opportunity to go spend dollars locally

02:02:30.300 goes a long way in creating a better economy for your, for your local economy.

02:02:34.700 Yeah.

02:02:35.120 And I think, you know, when you look at that, you know, when you start talking about how

02:02:38.300 do you spend your dollars?

02:02:39.240 Cause not everybody has $300,000 to pull back from an organization and advertising.

02:02:44.140 Right.

02:02:44.420 No, but you have 50 to pull back from Amazon to go give to your local guy who's likely

02:02:48.020 your neighbor.

02:02:48.600 Yeah.

02:02:49.480 I like it.

02:02:50.640 What do you think, bro?

02:02:51.580 Yeah.

02:02:51.720 I think, you know, you can hear, by the way I talk, like I'm not, look, there's a lot of

02:02:54.920 different opinions on vaccine, unvaccinated, this, that, but I think what's in our control,

02:02:59.180 right.

02:02:59.760 Is, I mean, yes, you can go get vaccinated, not vaccinated, but this, this tension on these

02:03:06.080 challenges we've seen in society and even with COVID, right.

02:03:08.780 What's complete in our control is I think people need to take ownership in their own

02:03:11.740 fitness, right.

02:03:12.360 Like we're talking about, I think a lot of people want to talk about wearing masks, getting

02:03:16.720 vaccinated, et cetera.

02:03:17.920 But if you're going to talk about that, that's fine.

02:03:19.540 Right.

02:03:19.860 And if you're, if you're a believer in it, that's okay.

02:03:21.980 Um, but then in conjunction, you also need to talk about what you could do for yourself,

02:03:26.000 right.

02:03:26.780 Taking care of your fitness, making sure you're going out for walks, getting in your exercise

02:03:30.380 because you can't just be one sided.

02:03:32.560 It needs to be a more holistic approach.

02:03:34.280 And I think that's, that's really important for people to understand is that I think we get so

02:03:38.520 wrapped up in this conversation, which I, it's a very important conversation.

02:03:41.560 Absolutely.

02:03:42.060 But then we have a tendency to take away things that, that are actually in our control because

02:03:45.920 it's easier for us to deflect on the things that are outside of our control necessarily.

02:03:49.600 What's in our control is taking care of ourselves.

02:03:51.360 And it's a, you know, it's a 24 hour a day, 365 thing.

02:03:55.160 And being in better shape is going to help you vaccinated or unvaccinated.

02:03:59.800 I got COVID being vaccinated.

02:04:01.540 It wasn't that bad.

02:04:02.920 Maybe because I was in really good shape.

02:04:04.220 Maybe because I was vaccinated.

02:04:04.940 I don't know, but that was in my control.

02:04:06.980 And I think everybody else should go out there and go start with walking and then start getting

02:04:10.160 after your workouts.

02:04:11.160 Will you come on my tour?

02:04:12.500 I'll go on your tour.

02:04:13.320 At least one city or two cities?

02:04:14.740 Yeah.

02:04:14.920 I'll go on your tour.

02:04:15.540 Just not in his home city.

02:04:16.620 No, no, no.

02:04:18.480 Hey, listen, listen, I want you to know like these kinds of conversations, they make me

02:04:23.340 extremely hopeful for people.

02:04:25.100 Like I needed this today.

02:04:26.300 Like I needed to hear from someone who maybe didn't necessarily see it as bad as I saw it,

02:04:30.800 but is also willing to have discussions.

02:04:32.940 And like, I really fucking dude, like I loved you before, but man, I really love you now.

02:04:38.380 I would come over here and give you a big old hug.

02:04:40.260 But like, but like my thing is, is like, that's important guys.

02:04:43.560 It's a, it's important.

02:04:44.460 I know a lot of you guys think I'm this hot dude who only like hot tempered dude.

02:04:50.020 I am a hot dude, but like, but like, uh, this hot tempered guys, you know, you can't

02:04:55.240 talk to, and it's not the case at all.

02:04:57.600 I feel very open-minded as well.

02:04:59.300 And I think people need to hear things like this, you know?

02:05:02.440 Um, so I really appreciate you coming on today.

02:05:04.600 Yeah, no, thanks for having me.

02:05:05.640 I mean, came out for a hundred mile bike ride and ended up, uh, chatting about life, little,

02:05:10.700 little, little politics.

02:05:12.280 It's all good.

02:05:13.120 It's good stuff.

02:05:13.960 What do you think, bro?

02:05:14.720 Yeah.

02:05:14.880 Same thing, man.

02:05:15.500 Go, go have these conversations.

02:05:17.080 I think this is probably one of my favorite shows actually.

02:05:19.660 I think so too.

02:05:20.580 I got to hear a different perspective.

02:05:22.100 You know what I'm saying?

02:05:22.560 Not, not, not online, not from some fucking bot, right?

02:05:25.580 Like from a real human who has real concerns, who has a good human, who's a great human.

02:05:29.240 And that's the thing.

02:05:30.080 He's a fucking great human.

02:05:32.180 And he's real.

02:05:32.860 He's sitting right here.

02:05:33.580 You know what I'm saying?

02:05:33.900 Like, like, go have these conversations because I'm sure you do have a neighbor down, down

02:05:37.220 the block that probably thinks a little bit different.

02:05:39.200 Cool.

02:05:39.420 Right.

02:05:39.580 Go have those conversations, man.

02:05:41.040 And you know, hopefully they don't, you know, they're a lot more respectful, like, like

02:05:44.620 this conversation is, and hopefully it doesn't go sideways, but you'll never know

02:05:47.660 if you don't go have it.

02:05:48.420 So I think my final thought, I want to touch back on sales thing.

02:05:52.920 I think, unfortunately, we're in a situation where we have to let our dollars do the talking

02:05:57.100 and it's important to support companies that you align with right now because everybody's

02:06:02.880 so polarized.

02:06:04.240 And so, you know, if you really want these companies to respect your views, you're going

02:06:10.980 to have to spend dollars with companies that appreciate who the fuck you are and what you

02:06:14.820 stand for.

02:06:15.380 And so I think that's a big move that can really change a lot of things.

02:06:20.500 You know, Aaron Wagner, a good buddy of mine, made a good point on his Instagram yesterday

02:06:23.760 that, you know, most companies operate between a five and 20% margin.

02:06:28.040 So like they can't afford to lose 20% of their customer base.

02:06:31.280 And a lot of these, a lot of these organizations and companies are getting very cavalier with

02:06:36.540 how they think they can operate a business.

02:06:38.640 Guys, business is hard with a hundred percent possible customers.

02:06:41.940 When you subdivide your customer base into, let's just say 60, 40 or 70, 30, or even 50,

02:06:49.560 50, you are cutting your own throat.

02:06:52.160 And so a lot of you businesses out there don't understand what the fuck you're doing because

02:06:55.580 people feel very strongly about this.

02:06:57.620 They're not just going to give in.

02:06:59.200 I can tell you this, that shit is not coming in my body.

02:07:02.000 It's not.

02:07:02.740 I will do everything else I need to do.

02:07:04.200 I'm willing to work hard.

02:07:05.260 I'm willing to eat food that I'm willing to not go out and have a good time.

02:07:08.580 I'm willing to suffer for everybody's health, but I'm not putting some shit in my body to

02:07:13.100 fucking that, that, that I think I believe after my research, I trust myself and that

02:07:20.200 it is what it is.

02:07:21.740 So, you know, as much as I hate the cancel culture and I hate that shit, I think it is

02:07:27.620 important, you know, to, to, to support people and companies that you align with and what they

02:07:33.120 stand for.

02:07:33.620 And I don't think it's, I don't think you should be discouraging people from, uh, you

02:07:37.640 know, going somewhere that they believe, but I think that we should all be working towards

02:07:42.160 supporting people that they believe and, and, and, uh, support, because I think that's the

02:07:46.960 only way we're going to get back and, and show that, you know, 80% of the people in America

02:07:52.180 want freedom, dude.

02:07:54.060 Jason, you might have different views, but you still respect the freedom.

02:07:57.120 I do.

02:07:57.440 I also feel for the businesses that are, that are put in a really difficult position.

02:08:00.760 Yeah.

02:08:00.940 Like I, I really, really do like myself included.

02:08:03.800 It's a really difficult decision if you, if your business.

02:08:06.560 And then there's also some, you said that as a business owner, you also need to know

02:08:09.380 your audience as well.

02:08:10.140 Like, let's just take San Francisco.

02:08:11.080 There's a, there's a current vaccine mandate there.

02:08:13.180 Yeah.

02:08:13.820 The restaurant owners came together and I, if I'm not mistaken on this, they actually,

02:08:17.680 they're okay with it because they believe more patrons will come in knowing that everybody

02:08:22.940 there has their vaccine in that particular area.

02:08:25.540 But, but I, you know, I, I, I don't envy the position for any business owner, including

02:08:29.420 ourselves, because it, it puts your back up against the wall to isolate one demographic

02:08:34.100 or the other.

02:08:34.640 There's plenty of people that feel the way you do.

02:08:36.380 There's plenty of people that feel the opposite way.

02:08:38.080 Right.

02:08:38.540 And as a business, like you're saying, it's already hard enough.

02:08:41.080 And now we're being put in this impossible situation.

02:08:44.080 Yeah.

02:08:44.320 Where you're damned if you do, damned if you don't type of thing.

02:08:46.480 Back to your point with the, with the, the hockey team, right?

02:08:48.940 It's the same thing.

02:08:49.980 If maybe, maybe not.

02:08:51.280 So let me point something out to you.

02:08:52.660 Yeah.

02:08:52.860 You may not be thinking about.

02:08:54.080 Yeah.

02:08:54.580 If you wanted the entire country to be dependent on the government, let's say you were trying

02:08:58.420 to install a communist regime where most people are dependent on the government.

02:09:02.760 Wouldn't it make sense to destroy small businesses and make it impossible for them to succeed?

02:09:09.340 They're doing a good job of making it very difficult.

02:09:12.360 Something to think about.

02:09:13.280 Yeah.

02:09:13.560 I'm not saying it is what it is, but I'm just asking something to think about, right?

02:09:16.760 Yeah.

02:09:18.220 Anyway, bro.

02:09:19.200 I love you, man.

02:09:20.080 Hey.

02:09:20.600 This has been a fucking awesome show.

02:09:21.960 Yeah.

02:09:22.200 We got to do it again sometimes.

02:09:23.560 Dude.

02:09:24.200 Anytime you're welcome to come on the show.

02:09:25.900 I love who you are.

02:09:27.140 I love what you represent.

02:09:29.140 Tell people where to follow you.

02:09:31.540 Best place probably Instagram, Jason Kalipa.

02:09:35.140 And yeah, if you want to check out some of our gyms, our online programs, NC Fit.

02:09:40.060 Tell me about your book.

02:09:41.000 You have a book?

02:09:41.580 Yeah.

02:09:41.940 We have a book, As Many Reps As Possible.

02:09:44.280 You can find on Amazon, the audio version on Audible, As Many Reps As Possible.

02:09:49.340 Actually, after I was on the show years ago, man, I got so much feedback from it.

02:09:54.560 I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity.

02:09:56.240 Absolutely, dude.

02:09:57.000 The audio book is great.

02:09:57.960 So go check it out.

02:09:58.720 Guys, check out his book.

02:10:00.200 Support this man.

02:10:01.020 He's a good man.

02:10:01.660 He's a good human.

02:10:02.300 He represents what I think the best parts of America are.

02:10:05.780 So I love you guys.

02:10:07.100 I appreciate you guys.

02:10:07.880 If you enjoyed the show, pay the fee.

02:10:09.260 Went from sleeping on the floor.

02:10:11.320 Now my jewelry box froze.

02:10:13.040 Fuck a pole.

02:10:13.840 Fuck a stove.

02:10:14.700 Counted millions in the cold.

02:10:16.380 Bad bitch.

02:10:17.200 Booted swole.

02:10:18.040 Got her on bankroll.

02:10:19.680 Can't fold.

02:10:20.560 Doesn't know.

02:10:21.360 Headshot.

02:10:22.180 Case closed.

REAL AF with Andy Frisella - September 25, 2021

144. Personal Responsibility Ft. Jason Khalipa

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