In this episode of The Realists, DJ and Andy discuss how to deal with disgruntled customers, how to handle them, and how to make things better for them. DJ: How do you handle disgruntled customers? Is the customer always right, or are they sometimes assholes?
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00:01:53.680So do you believe in the saying that, you know, the customer is always right, right?
00:01:57.780Like, how do you handle disgruntled customers, right?
00:02:00.600So this one person that sent this in, they had a bad, a customer had a bad experience, and even though their complaint was completely unfounded, right, you know, they still made it right, but that customer still bad mouth the company and still does it to this day, right?
00:02:12.680Like, how do you handle disgruntled customers?
00:02:14.680Are customers always right, or are they sometimes assholes?
00:02:17.360Look, man, sometimes people just are not good people, okay?
00:02:22.440Sometimes people don't take into consideration the difficulty of running a business.
00:02:26.460Sometimes, you know, I saw a meme the other day that said, you know, McDonald's can mess up your order literally a thousand times in your lifetime if you're going back.
00:02:34.520But a small business owner or a medium-sized business owner messes up, and you make it your mission to destroy them.
00:02:39.660And I was like, damn, dude, that's so true in society these days, you know?
00:02:43.600And I think there's two sides, you know, there's obviously always, you know, two sides to the story, right?
00:02:50.000But I think as a business owner, you need to do what you can to make things right with customers, right?
00:02:58.540I look at people, customers who are upset with me as an opportunity.
00:03:03.560I look at it as an opportunity for dialogue, an opportunity to improve, to see where we fucked up and how we can make it better.
00:03:09.720I do not look at it as, you know, a negative thing.
00:03:14.120I actually value their feedback, and I use it to get better.
00:03:17.240And I think that solves 99% of the problems.
00:03:20.500If you're a business owner and you're running a company no matter what size, and you are in good faith genuinely trying to serve the customer,
00:03:29.100and you genuinely try to solve the issue that they had, take responsibility for the issue, and make it better, things are going to usually work out.
00:03:37.440Most of the people who complain will also sing your praises when you correct the problem.
00:04:24.220Most people just want to be heard and acknowledged, and they want their problem fixed.
00:04:28.060And a big reason that people come at companies so hard is because so many companies will only respond to people that come at them that hard, right?
00:04:36.400They try to skimp on customer service, customer experience, valuing the customer in a genuine way.
00:04:43.400They try to pretend all those things and spend the least amount of resources, the least amount of money.
00:04:48.840They put their lowest paid people there, and they don't really give a fuck.
00:05:04.540And we have to understand that as business owners, that usually when people come at you really hard, they're coming at you not because of you,
00:05:11.640but because of their past experiences dealing with other companies.
00:05:18.140And you will actually see these people when you actually address it, they'll say, holy shit, dude, I can't believe you guys actually cared.
00:05:26.720So I see it as an opportunity to do the right thing, to create positive word of mouth, and, you know, hopefully that customer will become an advocate and you can salvage the relationship because that's what you're trying to do.
00:05:39.160You're trying to have a relationship, not a transaction, but a relationship.
00:05:42.720And the other side is, yes, you're going to have people who, dude, I honestly, man, like, I can't think of anybody off the top of my head that has given us a chance to correct the feedback that has still hated us afterwards.
00:05:59.480Now, I'm sure there's some out there, and that's why I say I'm sure there's some out there.
00:07:01.020Like, so, so I think you got to keep that in mind.
00:07:03.960You know, most people are directing their anger at you because of the shit they've dealt with either that day or over the course of being alive.
00:07:24.500We're kind of cleaning up with everybody's shit.
00:07:26.300But if you're making a genuine effort and you make a genuine effort to solve that person's problems, nine, nine point nine times out of ten, it's going to become a positive for you.
00:07:34.580If you're doing it from a good place and not trying to manipulate them.
00:08:06.900They built careers for a few people and they truly believe that they reached a level where their opinion and their knowledge base is valuable.
00:08:14.200So so how does, you know, and especially in today's area where everybody's a fucking expert on business, everybody's an expert on success and winning.
00:08:21.920But in your professional expert opinion, right, like what makes somebody qualified to truly to truly be listened to, like to truly, you know, learn from?
00:08:32.360Well, look, man, first off, I think you can learn from anybody, even if it's learning what not to do.
00:08:39.480You know, the the the person that's homeless on the street, you could probably learn a whole lot about how not to fuck your life up by listening to what they did.
00:09:18.320And so I think the thing to remember is when you're thinking about, you know, teaching other people, there's a lot of people out there that haven't done what you've done.
00:09:28.420And and if you really have made money and you really have developed some success in an actual business, you know, you probably have some good things to offer.
00:09:38.100You know, the problem with the with the whole thing is, is that we have this.
00:09:43.400We have the majority amount of these, quote unquote, coaches out there who have never done anything real except coach.
00:09:50.480Right. They pretend to be very knowledgeable.
00:09:53.360It's easy to repeat the shit Gary Vee says or what I say or what other people say.
00:09:57.820It's easy to repeat that shit and pretend like.
00:10:01.160If you're good enough, you could probably sound like you actually know it.
00:10:04.120But the truth is, when it comes down to the nitty gritty, those people aren't going to know what the fuck to do.
00:10:08.800And so where I'm where I have a problem is, is when people present themselves as if they run a real business when their business is only coaching and all they do is collect people's money and tell them what to do.
00:11:00.340Because when you're the student for a while and you build something that's truly credible that everybody can see and everybody can get online and order and see how you do business just like they do with me.
00:11:11.720Hey, are you really what you say you are?
00:11:13.260And they every day my team backs that shit up, which I'm very thankful for.
00:11:17.300But I've built some shit and we've built some shit and my friends have built shit.
00:11:22.740And, you know, learning from someone who's just a coach who doesn't do anything else besides bringing money off their YouTube or off their coaching platform or off this.
00:11:32.300And then they're like, you know, flying around pretending like they're some sort of boss.
00:11:38.580Those are not the people to learn from.
00:11:39.840You know, and people figure that out, you know, usually by the time people come to Arte with Ed and myself, you know, they've gone through this program or that program or this program or that program.
00:12:07.280That's I'm sure everybody else feels like they're the best, you know.
00:12:09.700So but yeah, man, I think the main thing to remember here, guys, is that, you know, if you build something real and you've learned some real lessons, you know, and here's another thing.
00:12:20.520I shared my shit for free for years and years and years and years, eight, nine, ten years before I ever really got into like coaching.