151. Q&AF: Hiring High-Quality On A Budget, Teaching Your Team To Care & Prioritizing Tasks Towards Your Goals
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In this episode of The Realists, DJ is joined by White Lightning aka DJ White Lightning to talk about the importance of taking responsibility for your life and your success. DJ talks about his struggles with depression and how he overcame it and is now on a mission to help others.
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What's up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realists, say goodbye
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to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking
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reality. Guys, today we have a Q and AF. I'm joined today by my man, DJ, AKA White Lightning.
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White Lightning, baby. What's up, bro? Dude, I'm over here recovering from death. Yeah.
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I saw you out there getting it, dude. I'm dying out there. I'm proud of you, man. I appreciate
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you, man. Yeah. You know, it's funny because I was I had like a come to Jesus moment out
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there, bro. Oh, yeah. And in the middle of your workout? No. Yes. I mean, serious. Like
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almost in fucking tears, man, because, you know, like 75 hard is day 20 for me. And
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I know this is something that you've been through. I know there's a lot of people out
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there that have been through this, but, you know, like there was a part in a workout where
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I mean, it was fucking hard. It was hard. And I started thinking to myself, man, I'm
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like, you know, it looked hard. I did that to me, though. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it was
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all the fucking the bullshit food that I ate, all the fucking beers that I've drunk as
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all the the missing the workouts, not working out like that's what got me to this point.
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And like it was just a come to Jesus moment where like, you know, it's my fault. Like
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I put myself here. This is hard because I fucking made it hard. Yeah, bro. And that's
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a that's a necessary realization to have for change, whether it be a change in your job,
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a change in your fitness, a change in your family, a change in how you live your life
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in any way. It all starts with saying, you know what? I did this shit. You know what I'm
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saying? And dude, if you really want to get great in life, you take responsibility for
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shit that isn't even really your fault. You know, hey, OK, I didn't create this.
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I recognize that. But if someone doesn't fix it, that's my fault. And that is where
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you start to get really powerful. Right. Especially when it comes to your career, because
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most people will will act like they're at the mercy of their job or whatever it is.
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No, you're not. Most companies have tremendous upward mobility. You just deny the fact that
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they do, because I can tell you for sure, at least where I'm at, if a motherfucker comes
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in here and kicks ass, I don't care where they're from. I don't care how smart they
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are. I don't care anybody, anything. We got guys in here that kick ass that like, you
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know, I thought honestly would probably be in and out of the company in six or seven
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weeks. Yeah, that that's them. That's them taking responsibility for themselves. That's
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them recognizing opportunity. That's them going hard to realize that. And, you know, that's
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one of the beautiful things about 75 hard and live hard program is that it forces you to
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realize what you just said. If you the first two, three weeks, you're going to be forcing
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yourself through every day. And eventually you're going to have one of those moments
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where you're like, fuck, all my life is is my my fault. And see, that's where you start
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to get powerful. And that's, you know, we talk. Jocko has his book, Extreme Ownership.
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It's a great book on this. But all positive change and positive progress starts with taking
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responsibility. And it's sad because like, you know, you guys who follow me, you saw on Monday,
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I went on a fucking tirade in my story because some dude who I barely know, OK, wanted to hear
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himself talk. And no, for real, that's what he does. You know, that's not just him, but like
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other people do this to me all the time. And it's rude as fuck. You know, I run many different
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companies. It's not just not just first form. There's all kinds of different shit that I'm doing
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every single day. I'm doing the best that I possibly can to educate and contribute and help
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people at my 75 hard program is free. You know, I could monetize the fuck out of that. And I don't.
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And then I get people to just disrespect my time because they don't want to take the initiative
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to figure out how to buy the book. Bro, I'm not cool with that. And honestly, it represents the
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entire problem with this entire fucking society. You know, we've become a society nowadays where we
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look at every single person and we say they're obligated to us for some reason. You know,
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this cancer culture shit, like a lot of these people, like I made that story. Right. And like
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if you guys didn't catch it, I went pretty hard, but the truth be told, I was holding back. I could
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have went way fucking harder, you know, which is funny because a lot of people are emoji with the
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big eyes. Right. But like, dude, you guys don't have no fucking idea, bro. I'm a force of fucking
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nature. Like they call me the bear here. They ask people not to poke it. All right. That's the truth.
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Okay. DJ, you have a temperature gauge. I do explain them the temperature. So literally just
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about everybody in this office understands that they, they will come to me first. I'm like, Hey,
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what's the temperature? How's any, and if it's not a good day, I tell them to fuck off. Yeah.
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Okay. But see, and that's necessary. And it's not because I'm an asshole. It's because I have so
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much on my plate that you motherfuckers can't comprehend it. And, and dude, this is my karma.
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One time Gary, Gary V listen, my show. Sometimes I want Gary to know this one time, Gary, we're
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personal friends. One time I fucking yelled at him about not getting back with me because
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we're friends. And I called him out on the same shit. And he was like, bro, I'm drinking
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from a fire hose. It's nothing personal, you know? And he explained himself. And then like
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a year or two later, when I got a little bigger, I text him back and I said, Hey bro, I get it.
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I'm sorry. Sorry. No, but dude, the truth is I didn't get it at that time. And now I
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do get it and that I was wrong, but people don't think about that. They don't think about
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how much I'm, and I'm not sitting here trying to toot my own horn, but motherfucker, there's
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a billion hashtags of fucking a 75 hard on Tik TOK. There's millions of people who've changed
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their lives with first form. There's RTA syndicate. Uh, there's the podcast, both of them that I've
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done for years and years and years. I give away so much value for fucking free and help
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so many people. I am very confident. And I'm not saying this to brag, but I am very confident
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that there's not a single other human out there that has affected and impacted more people
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with real actual change than me period. Okay. Cause we cover it from business. We cover it
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from fitness because we cover it from mentality. Okay. There's nobody's doing that. All right.
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So guys, I'm busy as fuck. So when you get mad at me because I don't want to look up the
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fucking link for a book that I've talked about for literally three fucking years and you all
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know exactly where to get it, which I happen to be sold out of, which I'm not sending you
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a free one. Like I get fucking pissed off because it's disrespectful as fuck. Like, dude, what
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other person do, what other company do you message the CEO and say, Hey man, can you send
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me a link to your fucking, do you, do you DM Phil Knight and say, Hey man, can you send
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me a link? This is why this attitude of entitlement is why more CEOs are not more active on the
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fucking internet. That's a fact. That's why the reason you don't have access to Phil
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Knight or fucking these other guys who have built these iconic brands isn't because they
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don't care. It's because you guys abuse the fuck out of me because it's making me want
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to literally shut my shit down and say, fuck it because they don't have to do this
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shit. I'm well off. I've already made my money. I've I'm secure for the rest of my
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life. Like I don't have to do any of this. So that kind of shit comes across to me is
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so disrespectful. And then I have people, I had a person in one of these 75 hard
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groups, which by the way, again, I've been very liberal and allowing people to run
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their own groups and see, but you know, what's happened in those groups. People don't hold
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the line. They don't fucking enforce the standard of 75 hard. They allow all these people to
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make their version of 75 hard, which is says very clearly as rule number one, that's not
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how the fuck it works. And these people don't even understand that that instinct for them
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to modify things, to make them more palatable to them is what keeps them where they are in
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life. OK, you don't get to change the circumstances of the outside reality. This is part of the
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learning of 75 hard. And the reason that most of these people are dissatisfied with their
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lives is because they try to change the rules that that are not supposed to be changed instead
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of actually just gritting up and fucking excelling inside that framework. OK, so they can't even
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recognize the problem they have with themselves. And then they're going to go out and create new
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versions of this program under my name and under my and then when I get on Instagram and I fucking
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get pissed off because someone is literally disrespecting my complete fucking everything
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that I do by doing that. Right. Like, say, hey, can you send me the link to your motherfucker?
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Then they get mad at me. They're like, oh, he doesn't appreciate his customers. No, no, no,
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because those people aren't my customers. My customers don't complain. My customers will complain
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when there's a legit problem. My customers are not excuse makers. My customers are not people
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who fucking are lazy. My customers might have been lazy in the past. That's who they used to be.
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My customers realize that they've got to do their part. Those are my customers. My customers
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and all my businesses are people who take accountability for who the fuck they are and
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want to change it. My customers are not the people who are unwilling to take responsibility for
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their decisions and who want other people to change it. And that's consistently where the
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criticism comes from the Internet. Right. These people who are have become entitled. Right. They
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think, oh, because I bought this man's book or I did. Motherfucker, don't buy the book. The shit's
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for free. I'm not asking you to buy the book. Most people buy the book because they got so much value
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out of the program that they want to know more about it. So they read the book or where we sell most of
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the books, by the way, are for gifts. People who want to give the book to friends because it created
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so much value for them. OK, so these people think that they owe you. They own you now because they
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bought a book from you or something. Motherfucker, I'm just going to be really clear. I'm not that kind
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of person. I know very clearly who I am. My brand, if you hadn't noticed, it says real AF. That's
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that doesn't stand for real Andy for selling. That stands for real as fuck. OK, so I'm always going to
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tell the truth. You're not going to like what I say all the time. And if you can't deal with that,
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then go listen to other people who are more palatable to your taste. You know, there's lots
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of very nice people out there who will tell you things that aren't necessarily true to make you
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feel good in the moment. I'm just not one of those people and I never will be and I never have been.
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And it's interesting to me when I see people in these groups get mad at me for the things I say
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and then they act like they're going to try to cancel me. Motherfucker, I'm doing just fine.
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As far as I know, I've been me the last 23 years I've been in business. And the more me I am,
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guess what happens? The more the business grows. And it's something I've been trying to teach you
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guys for years and years and years that authenticity wins. And you know why authenticity wins?
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Because you motherfuckers know that when I say something, I'm telling you the truth
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because I'm authentic to you. I tell you the shit that's fucked up. I tell you the truth when it
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needs to be told. And most people won't do it because they want to, they don't want to offend
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their customer base or they don't want to put people out or they don't want to, you know,
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lose a couple of dollars. Bro, and this is the even funnier thing on the big picture. And this is
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a business lesson, by the way. This is not just a rant. This is a business lesson. The reason you're
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afraid to speak your truth and be who you are is because you have pretended to be something that you
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aren't in order to get money. You have half of your customers that don't really know what your
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beliefs are. And you have half of your customers that, that probably think they know what your
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beliefs are and you're trying to ride the fence. And what that does is that makes you a fucking
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prisoner to these people's opinions. All right. And I'm going to tell you right now, people will
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support authenticity and truth, even if they don't agree with it more than anything else. So you people
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out there who are building a brand and you're hiding behind, you're riding the fence, trying
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to please everybody opinion, you're going to end up losing because one day one side of this group is
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going to find out something about you that you don't, that they don't approve of or like. And
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because you've been pandering to them and pretending to be something that you're not, you're going to
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lose that respect with a group. And then what'll happen is you apologize for that and you lose the
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respect of the other side. When the truth is, if you're just who you are on a daily basis and you just
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tell people what you think and you just stand for what it is that you stand for and you just let
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the fucking dominoes fall where the fuck they might look, dude, it's going to be what it is.
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I'm not under any delusions that everybody out there agrees with everything I fucking say,
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but here's what I do know. I know that everybody who listens to me and follows me knows that I
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believe what the fuck I say. Okay. And people respect that except for these fucking entitled,
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nobody do-gooders out there that ride their moral high horse and they think they're better than
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everybody and they think they have control because they bought a fucking book from my website. Don't
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buy the book. Don't, don't shop with me. I, if you, if that's what you think the nature of the
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relationship is going to be, that you're going to bend me over my opinions and my, my shit, uh,
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because you bought something from me one time, then don't buy from me. I'm perfectly fine with that.
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I run my whole life that way. I don't run ads on this show. I don't run ads for the show.
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Uh, it's straight value exchange. I give away the 75 hard program for free. Okay. Um, there's tons
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of shit I do for free. I give away the podcast for free. There's all these things I do for free.
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Like I'm giving you the value upfront. So you don't get to fucking bend me over because of something
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you don't like that. I said, I don't fucking care. And I don't, I really don't. Or you can't.
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Well, it's just, it's just getting old dude, because like now, you know, it bleeds into like
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what's going on with the world. You know, a lot of these people hit me up and they're like,
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yeah, Andy fucking louder in the back, be louder. You know, say louder for the, no motherfucker.
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The reason we're here is because you're only saying that you're only saying that privately
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behind the scenes because you're afraid of the, taking the arrows yourself. Well,
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when you let everybody else take all the arrows and nothing changes, the reason that these people
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are out there getting their fucking arrows is because you won't join them. That's not noble.
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That's not cool. You know, all these people out there, like the, like all these people out there
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trying to wake everybody up. This isn't about waking everybody up, dude. This is about that.
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The people who are still asleep, who think this shit is like, okay, who believe in the, the, the,
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the tyranny that's going on. They're not the problem. The problem is the people who recognize
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that it's not okay. The people who know it's not okay. And who are deciding to not get involved
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and say, shit, you motherfuckers are the problem. Okay. That's the problem. It's, you know, all
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these middle and right people are like, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up. No, that's not the
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message. The message is stop being a bitch and get involved with the shit you actually believe in.
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Your life will change in a positive way. Many times over. One of the best things that happened
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to me this year or the last two years is that I made so many true, real friends who stand with the
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same beliefs that I stand for that I know I can count on until the day I fucking die.
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And that comes from being authentic. My company has grown a hundred percent the last two fucking
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years. You know why? Cause I'm authentic. We're authentic. First form doesn't hide what it stands
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for. We're a pro-American pro-freedom company, just like America. You know what I'm saying? Like
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that attracts people. That doesn't fucking divide people. We unite people. And like, dude, it's just
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like this, I don't know, man, this whole fucking week shit. It's just getting to the point where
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like, I fucking can't stand it. Like I can't stand it. Like I said in my story the other day,
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like I get all these people to come to me. This is why I don't do events that much. Cause I literally
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get people to come to me and they're standing there and look at me in the fucking face. And I
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could tell they're fucking a hundred pounds overweight, 200 pounds. Like they're, they don't
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take care of themselves. They're, they're, they're not successful. They're not. And they're
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looking at me in the face and they're like, dude, we're so much alike. Do you, I'm just
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saying like, that's so insulting. That's such an insulting thing to say to me because we're
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not alike. I come to work every day and I work my fucking ass off. Do I or not? Absolutely.
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Okay. I fucking put in the work. I am disciplined and my shit gets done. I don't make excuses
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and my life reflects that. So when you stand there and look at me and tell me you're the
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same, it kind of makes me want to punch you in the fucking face, you know, but I can't,
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I got to smile and be like, Oh yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Like dude. And I'm just whole fucking like
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a delusional mentality of humanity is just got, it's got me to the point now where like, I have
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a hard time identifying with fucking anybody. Like it's almost a super isolating thing. Like,
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so if you're not somebody who wants to get better, if you're not somebody who's willing to admit
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that they want to get better, if you're not somebody who is going to work, I don't need,
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you don't need to be dude. You could be 700 pounds right now and, and totally your life
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in chaos. If you're willing to do your part, I will fucking do every motherfucking thing
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I can to help you. But if you're just going to sit there, nobody's dragging you along.
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You know what I'm saying? And like, I'm tired of this idea of people that, that, that society
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is going to drag them along. It's like, it's just, it's, it's a fucking disease, dude. It's
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like a, it's like a, the real pandemic is the fucking lack of accountability and responsibility
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in this fucking earth. You know what I'm saying? The real pandemic is the lack of action, the lack
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of, you know, uh, discipline, the lack of belief, the lack of even trying, those are the fucking
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pandemics. The pandemic is not, uh, you know what they say it is. I mean, it is technically,
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but in my opinion, the real pen, how many more people would be alive if they actually took all their
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fucking fitness and health seriously right now? Right. Right. You don't say hundreds of
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thousands. Yeah. How much better would, I mean, bro, it's just, it's just disgusting to me, bro.
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And I'm just over it. And you know, I'm, I'm having one of those days and everybody's going
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to listen to this and they're going to message me and they're going to say, Andy, don't give
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up. Listen, I love you so much. Listen, and I appreciate those messages, but guys, if you
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know anything about me, you know that I'm incapable of fucking giving up. I can't quit. It's
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actually like a blessing and a curse because I really, truly sometimes wish I could just walk
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the fuck away and go live in the fucking woods and everybody leave me the fuck alone. You know
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what I'm saying? But the truth of the matter is all the amazing things in my life come from
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helping the people that are willing to help themselves. So I'm always going to be there for
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those people. Um, you know, I don't know. We're going to a little housekeeping thing. I'm
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consolidating everybody onto the 75 heart dominators page on Facebook group, because a lot of these
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Facebook groups that I've allowed to operate with my name and likeness for the last two
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or three years, when it comes to 75 hard, uh, have not held the standard, have allowed
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people to compromise, have allowed people to like create these little offshoots of the
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main program. And because you guys didn't hold the standard, uh, I'm going to go ahead
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and get these pages deleted off the internet, which I'm fully within my rights to do.
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I've already started the process. Um, we're going to consolidate onto the group called 75
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heart dominators. I'm going to have certified administrators. We're going to, uh, do a certified
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coach program inside that group. I will be involved in that group, uh, in terms of coming
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on every once in a while, do a video, do a live answer some questions. Uh, but we're not going
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to have any of this week shit. Like I am fucking over it. Like I am fucking over it. And, um,
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yeah. So that's the housekeeping. I don't know what else. Yeah. So questions, man. Yeah. All
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right. Dude, I just get heated about the shit because it's just, it's like, like, what would
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you like? I can't imagine. I, I don't know, man. I can't imagine sitting at my house and,
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and sending a DM to the CEO of, of, of a company and then like expecting them to send me the link
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to their fucking whatever product. Like, I just can't even imagine even doing like, I can't imagine
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taking that little of initiative to give a fuck. I just can't do it. I can't even imagine. And like
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people say, well, that's your, you know, you've lost sight, you know, and those are customers.
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That's true. That's true. And you know what? If I had one customer or two customers,
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I might treat it a little bit differently if it was just me. But the fact of the matter is
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I've given a huge, massive part of my life away for free, a huge, I answered thousands of questions
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about this program for free. I give it away for fucking free. Okay. Have some respect. You know
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what I'm saying? Respect my time. Don't come to me with stupid ass shit that you could easily find
00:21:05.280
out. And the reason most of those people come to me like that, bro, is because they want to hear
00:21:09.240
themselves fucking talk. They want to get a response from me. So I'm just going to quit answering DMs from
00:21:13.960
people I don't know in real life. That's really going to be the solution. So if you send me a DM and
00:21:19.000
I don't know you in real life, you're probably not going to get an answer. I'm sorry. So anyway,
00:21:24.240
questions. All right, guys, you guys know how this works. So I got three questions for Andy.
00:21:28.620
Andy, as always, email your questions in to ask Andy at Andy for seller.com.
00:21:35.220
Please don't ask me, how do you get the 75 hard book? So first question. So let's go back in time
00:21:41.600
a little bit. When you were first getting started in business, right? And, you know, I think, you know,
00:21:47.840
when you guys first acquired the next couple of stores, you're moving, you're getting some more
00:21:52.340
employees in. How did you balance trying to acquire high quality employees, but not being able to pay
00:21:58.460
them adequately? Like, how was that balance for you starting off? Well, that's a really good
00:22:03.400
question. And a lot of people face because in the beginning, you don't have any money and it's hard
00:22:08.500
to pay people even competitively when you're really small. You know, so a big thing that you have to
00:22:15.060
understand is that people, first of all, people want to be a part of a winning team. If you're
00:22:19.580
committed to actually winning and actually building something, people will want to be a part of it.
00:22:23.500
The reason that most people have problem attracting employees is because their whole goal with
00:22:28.360
business is to get to a point where they don't have to work. Their whole goal is to get to a
00:22:32.560
point where they can kick their feet up on their desk, collect the money off the backs of other
00:22:36.240
people that are working for them and not do shit. If that's you, that perspective, you always have
00:22:41.840
people problems inside your company. So the answer to that is to have huge fucking plans for your
00:22:49.740
company and get really good at painting the fucking picture of how those plans are going to
00:22:54.460
materialize and what role these people will have in the future in terms of being a part of that
00:23:00.320
vision. Because if people can't fit their entire dreams and goals and life within the framework of
00:23:06.600
the big vision of what you're trying to build, they automatically pull themselves out mentally,
00:23:11.060
right? They're not going to buy in. It's going to be a job, not a career. So understanding where
00:23:16.200
you're going, understanding how you're going to get there, being determined, being a great
00:23:20.640
communicator in terms of how you're going to do this and what role the people that you have
00:23:26.540
are going to play in that is a tremendous advantage, especially in the beginning because
00:23:30.640
people will work not for starvation wages, but beginner wages, right? They will come in and see the,
00:23:40.920
you will have people that will come in and see the opportunity and put in the blood and sweat
00:23:44.800
equity. I have three or four guys here who have been here for 16 years. All of them are making a
00:23:50.620
fuck ton of money now. I've made good on those promises. I'm continuing to make good on those
00:23:55.180
promises. I have, you know, I'm looking out here and I got a hundred other people out here that in
00:24:00.060
another two or three years are all going to be making that same kind of money and everybody knows
00:24:03.940
it. So like when you get, when you take care of people and you do what you say you're going to do
00:24:08.160
and they can fit their dreams and their life and their vision underneath that big vision,
00:24:11.540
you're in a good spot. But the problem is most people don't do that. They try to pretend like
00:24:17.180
they're going to create this big fucking thing, but only get it to a point where they are making
00:24:22.520
some money and they put their feet up on the desk and then don't grow the company. Continual progress,
00:24:27.540
continual growth is very, very important. If your employees don't see your company growing,
00:24:32.500
they will lose momentum. They will find other things to do because like I said, everybody wants to
00:24:37.180
be a part of something that's winning and growing and is going to win. And if they see that you
00:24:42.200
aren't serious about doing that, they're not going to buy in, they're not going to work and they're
00:24:46.240
not going to be productive at any wage. You can't outpay that problem. So it doesn't matter if you're
00:24:51.060
paying little or a whole lot, if they don't see the fucking picture and don't understand it,
00:24:55.700
they won't, they won't be there to fucking dedicate to it. So my advice to someone who's just starting out
00:25:00.440
is to try to pay them as much as you can, that you can afford. You know, I have, when we were in that
00:25:06.200
position, I had a number of employees that got paid a lot more than me and I was the owner.
00:25:10.720
And so I did what I could and three of those guys are still here today and they're doing very well.
00:25:18.080
So, you know, in the beginning, you're going to have to sacrifice some of your pay to invest in
00:25:22.800
them. And that's how you should look at it. You should look at it as an investment in your company.
00:25:26.080
If your employees are handled properly, you pay them well, you invest in them personally,
00:25:32.000
you care about their lives, you care about their progress, you care about what they're building,
00:25:36.480
that's an investment that provides a really strong return. So instead of looking at your payroll as
00:25:41.740
an expense on your balance sheet, see it as an investment, but it can only be an investment when
00:25:47.160
you are actually investing in them. Bye. Yep. So you're going to say it? One for one.
00:25:53.720
Well, we're one for one, baby. Shaq at the free throw line. All right. So, so moving on, like,
00:25:59.980
like building off of that, right? You know, was Shaq good at free throws?
00:26:02.780
Shaq was not good at free throws. That was the joke. Thanks for that.
00:26:06.960
That was terrible. You got to explain the joke. It's not funny.
00:26:15.060
We got to go to fucking joke school. Both of you motherfuckers.
00:26:17.880
Yeah. We'll let Emily teach it. Sorry, Mrs. Priscilla. All right. Next question. So, you
00:26:30.280
know, I, I know it to be true. I've been here for, you know, going on two years and I know
00:26:35.400
for a fact that your ability to care, genuinely care about your customers, about your, your
00:26:41.420
employees, it's fucking real, right? Like there's no doubt in my mind about it.
00:26:44.740
I only care about the ones that care about themselves. That's the point. That's the
00:26:49.000
point I made on the fucking rant that I said, if you're a complainer, if you're a fucking
00:26:53.100
loser, if you're a whiner, if you're a bitch baby, if you're a fucking, I I'm going to cry
00:26:58.100
the whole way. I don't care about you. I care about people that help themselves. If you're
00:27:03.100
willing to help yourself and you're willing to meet me a little bit along the way, I will
00:27:07.160
fucking give you fucking everything. But if you're not willing to do shit and you're just
00:27:11.580
going to complain and try to twist everything and make it this and that and this and this
00:27:15.520
and this and not listen and give me trouble, fuck off because I have a whole list of people
00:27:19.600
who are willing to do the work over here that I'm going to dedicate my time to. So thanks
00:27:23.380
for the clarification. That's real. That's real. So, so how do you, how do you spread your
00:27:29.620
ability to care, right? Like how do you teach that to your team? How do you teach that?
00:27:32.260
How did you teach that to everybody else? Right? Like, is that something you feel like
00:27:35.700
you have to hire people who inherently have that within them or is that something you had to
00:27:39.400
develop? I mean, I got, what's the answer on that? Well, when there's two, there's, there's
00:27:44.480
two parts to that answer. One, if you hire them in from somewhere who, who is a traditional
00:27:49.640
company that just teaches people how to sell, uh, they're going to have a hard time grasping
00:27:54.420
that concept. That concept is much easier to teach someone who's not already trained in
00:27:58.460
how to sell traditionally, which, you know, all the, the fucking hard selling bullshit that
00:28:03.800
a lot of companies do. Um, so I find that when you start with a blank slate, it's much easier to
00:28:09.660
get people to understand that if you care about people and solve their problems, that will actually
00:28:13.040
make the sale organically. Uh, then if you, uh, try to like, you know, prospect and, and, and,
00:28:19.600
you know, all these other things like cold call and prospect and fucking, you know, basically
00:28:25.480
you're trying to manipulate the sale because, uh, manipulate the person into the sale because
00:28:32.560
you're trying to get what you want. So when you take people who are fresh and you teach
00:28:36.880
them to genuinely solve people's problems, to, um, you know, be there for them to listen
00:28:44.040
to what they have to say, uh, to hold them to a standard, right? Like you have to tell
00:28:48.620
them the truth sometimes, especially in our business, you know, our products are not going
00:28:53.360
to do the work for you. You know what I mean? You have to fucking do your part. And I feel
00:28:58.960
like that's part of caring. Part of caring is the truth. You know, um, I don't, I subscribe
00:29:04.000
to the idea that the truth is actually the best thing you could do for someone. A lot
00:29:09.260
of people don't agree with that. They want to encourage people and make them feel like
00:29:13.880
they wrote the reason people don't believe in themselves is because they've been pandered
00:29:18.260
and catered to and fucking pacify their entire life. And they, they have this illusion that
00:29:23.620
they're going to have to put in very little work to get some sort of result. Right? So that
00:29:28.240
stops with taking accountability. It stops with being honest and it stops with telling
00:29:33.400
people the truth because once you get people to understand, like you said, the beginning
00:29:36.640
of the show, this is my fault. I put myself here. This is what I did. Now we're at a place
00:29:40.940
where we can move forward. Right. Then and only then. Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure, bro. And I'm
00:29:44.880
not here to drag you along. Like I said, do I value every customer? Yes. But those other
00:29:50.560
people are not my customers. Right. Those are Weight Watchers customers. Those are fucking slim
00:29:55.320
fast customers. They're not my customer. Okay. And I don't want them here because they dilute
00:30:00.140
the culture. They dilute the fucking company. They, they're not the people who are actually
00:30:04.020
going to get results. And if they come here and they don't get results, what's that say
00:30:07.320
about us? Right. Well, then they'll stop blaming on you guys. That's right. So I don't know. You
00:30:12.100
people are not my people. Yeah. And I'm very aware of that, you know? And that's why it's
00:30:16.120
funny when these people try to leverage me over and like, Oh dude, I don't like the way he
00:30:19.440
fucking talks. Well, good. Yeah. We'll talk Jenny Craig. She's nicer. You know, dude, you're
00:30:25.100
laughing, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm being fucking serious. I know. I know. Yeah. I know.
00:30:30.000
Like, I don't understand. I don't understand. So the point is here is, is that, um, if you care
00:30:37.220
about people and solve their problems, they will buy your shit. It's very simple. If you, if you try to
00:30:44.920
manipulate them into, into them buying some shit from you, um, they might buy it once or twice,
00:30:51.440
but they won't stay. Right. So would you rather have to, uh, always be digging for new customers
00:30:58.960
or would you rather build a productive, uh, you know, mutually beneficial relationship with people
00:31:04.920
where they're getting what they want. And by default, when they get what they want, you get what you want.
00:31:08.980
Right. That's how I like to operate. That's why I run the podcast the way I do. That's why I don't run
00:31:13.060
ads. Okay. That's why I don't run ads for the show. That's why I don't run ads on the show.
00:31:17.400
That's why I give 75 hard away for free. And you know what? Yeah, I do charge for the book
00:31:21.980
because I know that if people do the program and they like the program, which if you do it properly
00:31:27.760
and you don't try to fuck with it, it will change your fucking life. And guess what will happen?
00:31:31.860
You'll buy the book because I delivered value first. That's the way the world works. That's how I
00:31:36.600
operate literally everything. And that's also why I'm not held captive to these fucking crazy fucks.
00:31:42.260
You know what I mean? Cause I don't, the value is undeniable. The value is undeniable and it's
00:31:46.940
offered first. You don't have to buy to get it. See what I'm saying? But what happens is, is when
00:31:51.920
you, when you, when you over deliver on the value, people want to contribute back. And so most of the
00:31:57.820
people that buy this book because they've changed their whole lives, a lot of those people are buying
00:32:02.580
the book to give to their friends. Like you wouldn't believe we have fucking tens of thousands of
00:32:06.460
people that buy that book for other people because it changed their life so much. You know what I'm
00:32:10.660
saying? So like the value exchange has to be disproportionately in favor of them, meaning
00:32:16.460
they receive more than what you're asking them in return for dollars. It's really, really simple.
00:32:23.160
It just takes guts and courage to execute because it's, it's counterintuitive to what most businesses
00:32:28.000
try to do, right? Most businesses try to lock people in on a fucking, on a, you know, up sale,
00:32:33.740
and then they forget about them, right? Well, you're not upholding the, the ethical standard
00:32:38.380
of business now. Businesses don't exist to make you money. Businesses exist to solve problems and
00:32:43.720
the businesses that solve problems are the ones that make money. So most people just think about
00:32:47.520
it backwards. If you ask 90% of people, what's the 99% of people, Hey, what's the purpose of being
00:32:52.540
We get rich, man. That's it makes money. And that's why only 1% of the people, 1% of the
00:32:57.920
companies actually fucking become those companies because they're totally looking at it the wrong
00:33:02.100
way. So that's fucking, uh, I'd say that's two for two. All right. So, uh, again, time machine,
00:33:11.040
let's get back to, to when you were first getting started, how, or maybe even now, I mean, I'm sure
00:33:17.080
you probably still have these conversations with yourself, but how do you differentiate what goes
00:33:20.920
on the back burner and what stays out in the front when you're trying to pursue your goals,
00:33:24.840
right? IE, you know, your friends, your family, your hobbies, your fucking, you know, whatever
00:33:29.380
it is, how do you differentiate what's on the back burner for you and what stays in the front?
00:33:38.300
So I think, and what I've learned is that you have to be selfish in order to even be selfless.
00:33:46.160
Okay. Meaning you have to have all your shit in order for you to effectively help other people
00:33:52.240
with their shit. So, uh, I think a lot of people put that backwards and a lot of people think they've
00:33:58.420
got to do all these other things for other people and they put themselves last or they've got to do
00:34:02.720
everything for their company and they put themselves last. That's the wrong way to do it. In my opinion,
00:34:07.660
in my opinion, and from what I found with my experience is that when you take care of your body,
00:34:11.540
you take care of your mind, you do all the things that you have to do for you up front. Um, it makes
00:34:16.500
you far more effective at handling everything that needs to be handled for everybody else,
00:34:19.840
whether it be a company, whether it be your friends, whether it be your family, whether it
00:34:23.540
be other obligations, um, you're just better when you're better. And so making sure that, you know,
00:34:30.760
you're putting good things in your brain, making sure you're putting good things in your body,
00:34:33.780
making sure you have your business in line, making like all those things can be called selfish,
00:34:39.040
right? They're always called selfish by people that don't really understand. You know, when you
00:34:42.980
start out on a fitness program or you start a new business and you're dedicating a disproportionate
00:34:46.760
amount of time, what do people generally call you selfish? Right. But from what I've seen,
00:34:52.560
and this goes for me and all of my friends that are successful that you guys all follow,
00:34:57.740
every single one of them puts themselves first, understanding that that allows them to have
00:35:03.340
more to pour out of their cup for everybody else later. So, um, I think most people think it's
00:35:11.100
the opposite, but, uh, most elite performers, highly successful people, uh, understand what I
00:35:16.680
just said. Yeah. So that's how I would look at it. That's what, so you, you, you would say that
00:35:20.020
there's basically essentially no backburn. No, I don't. I mean, there's burners, right? But like,
00:35:26.520
I, I don't, I don't think of it like that. Like I don't ever move shit off prime priority list.
00:35:30.820
It's just, it's different though, dude, for me, like I've got a team of people now. Like when I
00:35:36.060
was, when it was just me, I still, when it was just me, I operated the opposite of what I just
00:35:40.740
said, because I thought that's what had to do. That's how it's supposed to be. Yeah. But, but
00:35:43.820
here's the problem that handicapped me because I was fucking fat. I was fucking drinking a lot.
00:35:50.000
Um, my mind was always cluttered. I didn't feel good. I was unhappy, which made me worse at all the
00:35:55.520
other things that I did. Right. So my advice for people is to make taking care of the things for
00:36:05.180
you, the first thing that you do in the day. And, and it will work itself out for other people and
00:36:11.280
other projects and other things as you go. Like it's, it's like broke. It's like cutting down a
00:36:16.340
tree, right? Like you got an ax. Okay. And you're going to try to cut down the tree. Um, and the ax
00:36:21.380
blade is dull. It's going to take how many, it's going to take you 10 times as long to cut that
00:36:26.440
tree down. Then if you just stop for five minutes and fucking sharpen the blade, you know what I'm
00:36:30.360
saying? So that's, that's how you need to think about it. Being selfish to be selfless. I love
00:36:35.340
that bro. That's three for three guys. For sure. Three for three fucking fire after a 20 minute rant
00:36:40.600
on fucking whatever, dude, man. Sometimes that shit's necessary. Look, dude, sometimes that shit's
00:36:44.380
necessary. Listen, I, it is what it is, man. I keep it real. Like I'm not over here trying to fluff
00:36:49.540
you guys or blow up your skirt and make you feel good about, you know, feeling good, feeling good
00:36:54.080
about like being born. Like you're not meant to just like exist and have everything delivered to
00:36:59.520
you. The, the, the, the, the greatest thing about life is the investment that you make in yourself,
00:37:06.400
uh, and the improvements that you make. And then what you build off of that, that's the joy of life,
00:37:13.220
dude. And like spending time with, with quality relationships that you've built because you've
00:37:17.460
built yourself first, et cetera, et cetera. You're missing out on everything. Like these people
00:37:22.160
who sit at home and criticize everything and want everybody to do everything for them.
00:37:25.800
And everything is everybody else's fault. And I don't like the way this guy talks, or I don't like
00:37:30.860
the way they do this, or I'm going to change this or that or this. Those people are like, you guys don't
00:37:36.060
understand. You're letting life pass you by completely, like completely pass you, pass you by because
00:37:41.720
you've chosen to be a fucking victim. You've chosen to be mediocre. You've chosen to do the bare
00:37:45.840
minimum. And dude, I, those people just ain't my people, man. You know, for real, like you could
00:37:50.360
scroll through fucking iTunes business podcast and find, you know, 50 podcasts for every one
00:37:57.440
of mine. That's the truth. So you're going to find 50 other podcasts that are going to tell you all
00:38:02.600
the pacifying positivity. You know, you can do it. Shit. I'm not saying you can't do it, but what I
00:38:09.100
am saying is you can't do it with that attitude and you can't do it with the attitude that it's not
00:38:12.940
your fault. It is your fucking fault. You can't do it with the attitude of you're going to fix
00:38:17.140
everything and modify everything that comes to you because the circumstances of the world don't
00:38:21.600
modify themselves for you. The reason you struggle right now is because you try to make everything
00:38:25.680
fucking fit you. You know, we started this shit 20 fucking years ago, participation trophies.
00:38:30.320
Oh, little Johnny got left out. He didn't get a trophy. And instead of saying, well, little Johnny
00:38:34.340
needs to go fucking practice. So let's give him one to make him feel good. And now it's created a
00:38:38.760
generation of adults who literally think that's the way it works. It just doesn't. And I don't
00:38:43.500
care how popular it gets. I don't care how much momentum it gets, which by the way, it's losing
00:38:49.120
momentum if you haven't figured it out. I don't care how socially acceptable it gets, which is
00:38:54.080
getting less socially acceptable if you haven't figured it out. Accountability, freedom, taking
00:38:59.720
responsibility, self-reliance. Those are coming back hard as fuck. Okay. So you can either get on the
00:39:05.120
train or you can get left behind. But I'm telling you right now, that culture of winning, that culture
00:39:09.300
of dominating, that culture of kicking ass, it's on the comeback. It ain't on the fucking come down.
00:39:13.840
The last 10 years we've had been on the come down. Now it's on the come up because people are realizing
00:39:18.320
what it produces. It produces fucking shit. It produces a bunch of fucking weak ass motherfuckers
00:39:23.480
that can't handle their own fucking lives. And then in turn, turn on everybody else and criticize
00:39:29.660
their lives because they can't and aren't willing to do what it takes. And dude, those people to me
00:39:36.480
are not important to me. They're not important. I'm not trying to convince you. You people out
00:39:41.300
there that listen to this show and you think, oh, dude, I don't like the way this or that or this and
00:39:45.900
this and this. You're not my fucking customer. You're never going to be. Never were. I don't even
00:39:51.460
want you. I don't even want you. I want people that are not going to make excuses. I want people who
00:39:56.200
are going to be willing to work. I want people who are willing to be honest. I want people who
00:40:00.320
are willing to fucking meet in the middle and do their part. And those are the people I'm speaking
00:40:05.400
to. I'm not speaking to these other motherfuckers.
00:40:07.520
Went from sleeping on the floor. Now my jewelry box froze. Fuck a pole. Fuck a stove. Counted millions
00:40:13.700
in the cold. Bad bitch. Booty swole. Got her on bankroll. Can't fold. Doesn't know. Headshot. Case closed.