176. #75HARD vs Will Grumke
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Summary
Today we have a special edition of the show featuring my good friend Will Grumkevitch. We talk about the importance of teaching your kids the right values and how to help them along the right path in life.
Transcript
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What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realest, say goodbye to
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the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality.
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Guys, today we have a special 75 part edition and you're going to really like this one.
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This is, this is one I've been trying to get done for a while.
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It's because a lot of you guys are lying to yourselves right now.
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Currently, as you're listening to this, talking about how you're going to fucking start tomorrow
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And so what I hope by having these 75 hard podcasts come out on Sunday is that they will
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convince you to actually follow through on that promise that you've made to yourself,
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uh, for the last, however many months or years.
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I created 75 hard was to break myself out of that cycle and it works.
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Um, and it's a real lifestyle and I have a special guest to talk about that today.
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But before I get into that couple reminders, one powerless back in stock, uh, just so you
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So if you wanted a powerless journal that those are back in stock to Otis, the happy camper,
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my children's book, uh, which is book number seven of what I think will be, I thought it
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was going to be 10, but I actually think it's going to be many more, uh, books.
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And I want to talk to you guys a second about my books.
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The reason I write these books guys is because over many, many years of being in the personal
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development space, I've realized that a lot of parents really want to teach their kids
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the right things, but we're never actually taught those things themselves or just now
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And so for that reason, they don't really know what to teach their kids or how to help
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their kids along the right path, which as we all know is probably the most important
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So the reason that we created these books guys was really because we needed to get to
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Just like we talk about indoctrination on the, on the left of all this crazy shit, right?
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Um, well, indoctrination is going to happen either way.
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So do you want them to be raised with the right values of hard work, uh, doing the right
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thing, uh, being a good citizen, all of these things that represent what this country is about
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and should be about, or do you want them to be indoctrinated by people who want them
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to believe that, you know, they're fucking, who knows what they want them to believe.
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Actually, no, I have no fucking idea, but anyway, this is a tool.
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Like, uh, but they are some really helpful books.
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Um, and probably the most rewarding project that I've been a part of, uh, because all of
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the posts and tags that you guys make that use these books, um, they're awesome, man.
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And, uh, I really appreciate your guys' support, but anyhow, the new books available on the website.
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So you can check that out now with that all being said on.
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To what will be the greatest 75 hard episode ever, or at least so far with my man, my good
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friend, fellow first former here at HQ, Will Grumke.
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It's actually just, uh, wrapped up outdoor workout number two for phase one.
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It just annoyingly enough cold that like when you're doing sprints, like it just burns the
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I, I, I bowed out of my 75 hard that I started, uh, to go the last 75 days of the year.
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I, uh, I wasn't being able to give it with my injury and shit.
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I just felt like I was out, not giving it the full intent.
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So I got to go out and do the cardio here, uh, in a little bit, but yeah, sometimes you
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Now, with that being said, uh, bro, for those of you guys that don't know who will is.
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I know a lot of you guys have followed first form.
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Um, this is, first of all, one of my best friends, uh, he's on the board of our company.
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Um, he he's a self-made guy, uh, came in, started working at us.
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And when you started, you were a minimum wage guy.
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So he started as a minimum wage guy, um, has built a career here at first form.
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He's an executive here at first form, literally started from the bottom, uh, is one of the
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most incredible dudes that you could ever meet, um, for a lot of different reasons.
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And before we get into 75 hard, I want to talk about one of the toughest fucking things
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Um, and you know what I'm going to talk about, but you guys, so one day this now, now
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we'll talk, we'll get into this, but you weren't an exceptional, like gifted endurance athlete,
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I mean, I grew up a fat kid and the very first time that my mom made me, you know, start running
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Like I cried, like my legs chafed so hard and like just from a mile that I cried and I was
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So you weren't one of these guys who's just cross country guy and a great athlete, all
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I mean, the only running experience I had is, uh, after I lost 50 pounds.
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I mean, a lot of that, I was running like three miles a day, um, you know, a little
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bit of a freshman year track, but that's, that's about it.
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So, so, so guys, just so you understand, Will's not a little guy.
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This dude just decides and why this is relevant.
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It's because usually these runners all kind of the same build.
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They're, they're, they're smaller guys, you know, they're, they're built for running.
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Will's built for like being a super soldier or something.
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I don't know what it is, but anyhow, this dude just decides one day.
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So, uh, about eight months ago, decided on a Thursday around one o'clock in the afternoon
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that the next day I was going to wake up and run a hundred miles in under 24 hours.
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And, uh, I was going to run laps around the building until I got it done.
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19 hours and 50 or no, 45 minutes later, got it done.
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He ran a hundred miles in laps around our headquarters and I watched him.
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It took me like three hours to figure out what was going on because when I got to work that
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day, I saw him running and then I left later to go do something and he was still running.
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And it was like way long of a time to where you shouldn't have still been running.
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And I'm like, Hey, what the fuck is Will doing?
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And the guys are like, Oh, he's running a hundred miles.
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Let's talk about that before we can get into 75 hard, because I want people to understand
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like, what was that like and what, and what, what, what made, what inspired you?
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Like what is dude, I know you and you know, not these, these guys listening, they, they
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don't know you at all, but I know that was a test for you.
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Um, and really, you know, the, the message that I want people to, you know, kind of take
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away from it is I didn't even, you know, post about it or that I was going to do it, you
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know, because it was, it was a hundred percent for me.
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Um, and you know, really what it was, was, you know, living up to the, you know, the words
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that we talk about of leading by example and always pushing yourself.
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And, you know, over the last four years, um, I had started to dabble in a little bit
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of running, um, not consistently, but using it as a test because it's a hundred percent
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No one else knows how hard you actually went, but you know, so when you get done with a run,
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Was that your best or did you just kind of half acid and people can celebrate it?
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But at the end of the day, you know, um, and so for me, it was, if I'm going to tell
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people that they need to go out and constantly push themselves and we talk about finding your
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limits or pushing past your limits, I hadn't found that.
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And, you know, I started with, you know, running my first half marathon and at the time it was
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I hadn't run anything over a 5k and I was like, man, we got to go four times that distance.
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Um, but the next couple of days I was wrecked and I was like, okay, built my confidence a
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And then about a year went by and I hadn't really pushed myself in that way, you know, and really
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Um, and I went out and I ran a marathon, uh, and did really well with that.
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And two weeks later, you know, cause Sal challenged me.
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He's like, dude, you're five minutes away from the Boston marathon time.
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Cause that was the first time when I realized that like, when push comes to shove, I am
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mentally tough enough to give it everything I have and accomplish my goal.
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Cause I only beat the cutoff by like 13 seconds had to be wheelchaired off the, you know, the
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Um, but I did it and you know, that sense of confidence and finding, you know, that place
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past what I thought my limits were, you know, became something I was pursuing, you know,
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and you talk about it all the time of like pursuing, you know, your potential, whatever
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And so I had a new threshold and then it was, okay, I'm gonna do a 50 K trail run 32 miles.
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Um, and then from there was when I was like the first thought of like, I bet I could run
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And instantly I was like, no, now you got to do it.
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And I was like, I was like, nah, you can't do that.
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And as soon as, like you said, as soon as I started debating it, it was like, well,
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And, uh, I, I went for it actually, uh, four months earlier.
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And made it about 70 miles before my body completely shut down, which was twice as far
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And, you know, that's where Sal had to come pick me up off the road, take me home.
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I mean, I was, I was in a bad, really bad spot.
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Um, and then four months later, it just, it weighed on me that whole four months, you
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know, looking at, okay, I found my limit physically, but mentally I was still like, I can do it.
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You know, I ran three times, three miles just cause we got suckered into some workouts
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And, uh, and then, you know, finally on that Thursday, it was just, it just hit me.
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And, uh, you know, showed up at four o'clock in the morning, got out of my truck and started
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running and 19 hours and 45 minutes later, it was done.
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So dude, that, first of all, that's incredible, man.
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Like, I hope you guys can appreciate how, how big of a mental feat that is, not just physical.
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I mean, there's lots of people that train to run these ultra distance runs and, and they
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They like, there's guys that are running these huge races and, and they train for these
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Like for sometimes for even years to get to this point.
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And what Will did was he just said, Hey, I'm, I'm going to go see how far I can go and went
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So like, I hope you could appreciate how big of a mental test that is.
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Um, it's one of the most impressive things I've ever been able to witness.
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And, and, uh, I'm not surprised that you were able to accomplish it at all, dude.
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What, what were some of the conversations that you had?
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Like, dude, I, I know how my conversations are when I'm doing shit that just sucks because
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there had to have been points during that run that sucked.
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Like for real, they're like, like you, I know there's zones of momentum and you kind of go
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this other place and then you're, you know, 40 minutes from where you were.
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And then you get into these zones where every step is complete agony and complete willful
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So what were some of the conversations like that happened when, during those times?
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So a lot of conversations, like the internal conversation.
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And, and another thing I want to note is, uh, I ran it with no headphones, right?
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No music, no podcast, because I wanted to have those conversations and you can't distract
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So it's like, all right, well, you're by yourself with your thoughts and, uh, figure it out.
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And so, you know, a lot of it was, uh, you know, thinking about obviously, well, once
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And when you're running and yeah, you kind of have those times of momentum, but I had a
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And I think the biggest thing that people can learn from this is the whole time, you
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know, my mind was trying to tell me that, well, you don't really need to maybe hit that
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Like when things got tough, it was, well, maybe you don't have to do it in 24 hours.
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Cause if you slow down a little bit, you could definitely cover the distance.
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Um, or, you know, well, no one else knows that you're really running a hundred.
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So you could just, you know, stop at 50 and, you know, it'd be a good run and go out with
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And so the whole time it's your brain or my brain, at least was looking for reasons and
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And once again, that's what I like about running specifically is because, you know,
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Like if you let off the gas, it's between you and yourself.
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Cause nobody else knows how you feel in that moment.
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And for me, it was that constant battle of like every step of like, I'm going to run
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I can't worry about, you know, what's at mile 60.
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I'm still on mile seven and it's dark and it's cold.
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And then it became just run to that little crack in the fricking sidewalk or whatever
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So whatever I had to do, because like you're right, it was up, it was down, it was all
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And then I can tell you the last 10, it was just pure suck.
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So you guys notice he's taught what he's talking about.
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We talk about this a lot in the program, you know, these conversations happen to us and
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we're going to get into 75 hard, but I just want to, you know, these conversations happen
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to us when we're doing anything that's difficult physically.
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And this is what gives us the opportunity to grow mentally.
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And a lot of people think the 75 hard is a physique transformation challenge or some shit
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when in reality it's designed to get you as uncomfortable as you fucking can so that you
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First of all, become aware of the conversations like you're talking about, but also be able
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Because the reason that most people end up in a place they don't want to be is because
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in that conversation that Will's describing where it's like, oh, well I could run a 50
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So they set out to have a hundred miler and they get to 50 and you're like, oh, that's,
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And, and they let those voices literally create a reality for them in the physical world.
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That wasn't what their intent was because they let themselves be tricked, uh, you know,
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You know, and, uh, that's why that's so important to become aware of these, of these conversations,
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I mean, like we could stop the podcast in 16 minutes and I think people get some good value
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out of that, uh, but you know, this is a 75 hard deal and it's important to know that
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So he had already, I mean, there's nobody in the world that would argue that that's not
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one of the mentally toughest things they've ever fucking heard of.
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So I'm really interested to hear what you're going to have to say about it.
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Uh, being someone who I know for sure is already a pretty mentally determined human.
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Um, tell, before we get into this, what, what do you do here at first form?
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So oversee any of our content on the website, emails, blogs, uh, you know, through our Legion
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air program really help organize all that and make sure that it's communicated effectively.
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So people can actually take the education and go out and apply it.
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Cause otherwise, like if they don't know what to do and how to do it and why to do it,
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And as a former fat kid myself, I understand that, you know?
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Um, so that's really what my role is to make sure that that message, uh, is easy to apply
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And so guys, what he does a lot of his time is he spends a lot of his time coaching people
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So this is someone who, first of all, he's already mentally tough.
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Second of all, he spends his, his career coaching humans to, to get past these sorts of things.
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So this isn't just some like regular dude who, who we pull in off the street that did
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This is a guy who literally coaches people on the concepts that you learn through 75 hard
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literally every day to produce results for them.
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Cause like out of all the people that I know, and this is honest, like out of all the people
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I know that need this program, you're probably the least, like you would be the last person
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I would think like, Hey man, we'll really needs 75 hard.
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Like you have already developed, uh, you know, over the course of time, you know, tremendous,
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tremendously effective habits, or you wouldn't be where you are in the world.
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So, um, he's accomplished a lot in a very short amount of time.
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Like, what were you just trying to see if I knew what I was talking about or what?
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I, uh, I think that's the reason why I did it because one, I got tired of people saying,
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Oh, well, you know, yeah, you don't need to do it.
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And, you know, then it, it started weighing on me.
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And like, once it clicked in my brain that I was being hypocritical almost of like, once
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again, talking about, Hey, you know, go out and push yourself and do better.
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And even when you think you're doing well, you could probably audit your intent and do
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And so I was like, well, shit, Will, like you're a fucking hypocrite.
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Like this program has changed so many lives and I've seen it and I've, you know, people
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on the team, like everybody talks about it and yet I hadn't done it.
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And it's like, well, who am I to think I'm too good to get fucking better on this?
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So literally like two days later, right after summer smash, I was like, cause that's what
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Everyone at summer smash coming up to me talking about the a hundred miles and, you know, or
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And then they would say, but you don't have to do it.
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And I was like, no, if I'm going to live by our core values and I'm going to be a man of
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So yeah, and by the way, I, you know, I understand that no matter where you are, you can get
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I mean, that's like, I hope you guys understand what he said.
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Cause like what he said really is sort of the whole purpose of our existence when it comes
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to our own development, because what he's talking about is setting the standard.
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You know, people talk about like, oh dude, you know, you got to fulfill your potential.
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Well, your potential, your potential is never something that can actually be fulfilled.
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You can't ever fulfill your potential because it's on a sliding scale.
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And the harder you work, the harder you push yourself, what happens is your standard raises
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And that's, you think, okay, I'm at the limits of my potential.
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Well, what you just learned created a whole new level of skillset behind that standard.
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And then that new skillset pushes you past that standard.
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And so what we live in is a, is a reality in which as a human, you can consistently expand
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your own potential by pushing yourself to your limit over and over and over again.
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And this is how you see people who let's say in business, uh, you have two very different,
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You have people who make it once and maybe fall off, or you have people to just continue
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to grow, continue to grow, continue to grow or in careers or in relationships or in fitness,
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people either kind of peak and then fall off or they continue to progress.
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And it's the people that continue to progress that are actually showing you what potential
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And so when you think about what you're capable of, you may only be able to capable of running
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two miles today, but that two miles, once you hit it, now you realize it wasn't that
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big of a deal allows you to get to the three or in that three allows you to get to six.
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And then you get to a place where it's a hundred or whatever you decided it is.
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And when you get to that point where it's, and this is in all areas where it's whatever
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you decide the end is, that's where you become powerful, right?
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Like how, like I was asked yesterday, what's the finish line for you?
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And that comes with time and it comes with consistently committing yourself to pushing
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yourself to a point of extreme discomfort, learning the strengths and gaining the skills
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And then going at it over again and over again and over again.
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Um, and I would just say the, I think where a lot of people mess that up is they compartmentalize
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exactly what you're talking about for one area of their life.
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And for example, they'll do that in the gym, right?
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Like when it comes to lifting weights, that's how you physically get stronger is pushing
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And then you add a little bit more and you add a little bit more and you add a little
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bit more, but they don't take that same concept and apply it to their life, right?
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To their job, to their relationship, to whatever it is, to their standard of keeping their
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They just, Oh, well, I'm super disciplined here.
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But if you're talking about building your life, it's more than just lifting weights
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And so, you know, that's where I think a lot of people, they, they compartmentalize that
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skill and they don't let it transfer to other areas of their life.
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And, and, and I think my personal opinion is I think that comes from not being aware of
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I think that becomes of not being aware of, uh, the dynamic nature of the human existence,
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Like we've got a bunch of areas in our lives that need to be addressed.
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And then, and, and the more discipline that we have, the more, more, uh, ability that
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we have to control our external existence, meaning all the shit that goes on outside of,
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of what we have going on, the stronger and more effective we become on whatever path we
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And so, you know, I mean, bro, it's hard for me to ask you questions about this because
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like, I, I don't feel like this shit was that hard for you.
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Like you're already a good person who lives by this standard and this is like a unique
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I've never talked to anybody like you that's done this.
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So, I mean, going into it, uh, you know, my biggest concern or fear was, you know, once
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again, living up to my standard of, you know, what's going to make me proud when I get through
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Like when I look at myself at the end of the day, if I can say I executed on all of those
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tasks with the utmost intent and I did my very best with it, right?
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Um, and so in that, you know, that puts that pressure on yourself, right?
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And I mean, you can, you know, see it in one, my productivity at work during that time, but
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It's like, it made me dig deeper than I was already digging.
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Um, and it made me like, you don't just miss a day of like your reading, right?
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Or you don't just miss a day of like your eating.
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Like, I mean, it, it physically and mentally just made me push myself harder.
00:24:51.520
And so while going in, it was like, oh yeah, I do these things.
00:24:55.780
But when you truly try to absolutely squeeze everything out of it, like it was awesome.
00:25:04.940
And I'll tell you, you know, phase one is straight up kicking my ass in a whole new way.
00:25:09.580
Um, but it, it just taught me a lot that even though I was doing good and by most people's
00:25:22.620
You know, both what I was eating, you know, letting some things slide.
00:25:25.740
Not that it's the end of the world, but if I really want to be my best, like, okay, well,
00:25:28.980
I now know exactly what I can do to make myself better.
00:25:32.860
Um, and same thing mentally, like I would, you know, feed myself some shit every now and again.
00:25:36.380
And like, all right, that's part of human nature.
00:25:38.460
But the purpose of the program is to find those things and call them out and, uh, and
00:25:42.660
eliminate, or at least make them less and less.
00:25:44.700
So once again, you can keep working towards a better version of yourself.
00:25:48.460
And while, you know, I maybe might've not had as much of a drastic change mentally, as
00:25:54.480
far as like, you know, I'd had no self-discipline to like, Hey, I'm, I'm doing pretty fucking
00:25:59.220
It still was incremental change every single day that by the end of 75 days, I was like,
00:26:06.720
I'm the best version of myself that I've ever been to this point, like literally on
00:26:14.080
A lot of people ask me, first of all, that was awesome.
00:26:16.360
But a lot of people always ask me, they're like, why do you always do it?
00:26:19.960
Because dude, you find yourself in this place, at least for me, you know, where I have never
00:26:28.000
So like, I like right now it's very hard for me mentally because I'm injured.
00:26:32.240
And I'm not as good as I was before I was injured physically.
00:26:38.840
Like Matt, like, like making me so angry that it's like, I'm, I'm actually like pissed
00:26:47.680
And we're in the past, you know, 2018 or 2017, Andy.
00:26:58.480
You know, I'm going to go, I'm taking this time off.
00:27:17.820
Uh, you know, but man, you know, that, that feeling of knowing.
00:27:23.340
And I posted this a couple of times on my story.
00:27:25.360
I'm like, dude, today, like today, I've never been better than this in my entire life.
00:27:35.060
That's a powerful feeling, you know, and you get addicted to it.
00:27:38.680
You get into that zone where it's like, you're chasing that feeling.
00:27:41.880
And you know, I, I don't, you don't get that without going all in on the intent, like what
00:27:50.560
And I feel like a lot of people, you know, right now they, they think it's an accomplishment
00:27:55.580
just to get through this 75 hard say, Oh, I got through it.
00:27:58.900
But like, dude, to really unlock the magic about it.
00:28:01.700
Like, this is why I stopped on my last one because I wasn't doing it as respect.
00:28:09.360
And I want you to talk about this a little bit, how important it is, what you said about
00:28:16.840
So, you know, cause I know you caught yourself wanting to slip.
00:28:23.820
So, um, you know, one of the things that I, you know, post a lot about and talk a lot
00:28:27.500
about is, you know, one good decision at a time.
00:28:30.060
And so to monitor, you know, an audit by a tent going through it, you know, I really do.
00:28:34.560
I focus on like, what is in front of me and, you know, and then when I'm done with
00:28:39.640
that, okay, is that something that's up to my standard?
00:28:45.080
And that can be a conversation that can be a workout that can be whatever.
00:28:48.160
And that's the only way that I know how to like truly hold myself accountable in each
00:28:53.580
And so, you know, when it's like, all right, workout number one, all right, we're going
00:28:57.860
Like I, you know, and that was a habit that I broke because I didn't realize how much time
00:29:01.560
I was kind of, you know, killing on my phone in between sets.
00:29:05.240
And it's like, all right, when I'm done with this, I don't want to have to fucking redo
00:29:09.680
Because there were a couple of workouts that I got done with like my outdoor session.
00:29:12.600
And it's like, yeah, I rode the bike, but like, it didn't sit well with me.
00:29:24.180
So even in the program, I want you to clarify this for people.
00:29:27.320
When you felt like you didn't get the full, like you didn't do the workout, you did it
00:29:37.040
And one time I changed the workout because I was like, well, I'm kind of half-assed that.
00:29:41.260
Let me go do something that like, all right, I'm more motivated to do and I could attack
00:29:46.060
And it's like, all right, I'm fucking doing the program the right way is about.
00:29:49.980
You know, I just want you guys listening to understand that.
00:29:52.160
Now I'm not saying that you all got to go do fucking extra workouts and shit.
00:29:56.260
What I'm saying is you want to become aware of the intent that you're putting in to every
00:30:04.460
And there's purpose behind, you know, those workouts, right?
00:30:07.620
Like, especially because I was training for a CrossFit competition and things like that.
00:30:10.880
So it's like, okay, on some of those days, it's gymnastic work, right?
00:30:14.620
Where your heart rate is down a little bit more, but you're practicing, you know, handstand
00:30:18.040
walks up and down the turf and you're doing things that's not like, oh, I'm just going
00:30:26.900
So it's, you know, really when I look at those things, am I, am I fulfilling the purpose of
00:30:31.760
it to the standard that I am comfortable with to say, without a doubt, I made myself proud
00:30:38.340
And so like, that's, that's really how I kind of monitor all those things.
00:30:41.420
Cause like you said, it doesn't mean every workout you got to, you know, fricking go run
00:30:47.760
And making sure that you are meeting the purpose with the standard that you have set for yourself.
00:30:52.780
And that you can honestly look yourself in a face and say, Hey, I'm proud.
00:31:00.660
So dude, what was the hardest part of the program you think?
00:31:11.520
Um, but it's, it's having those beers, you know, when I feel obligated from friends because
00:31:19.260
That was one thing that really tripped me up was, you know, anytime my brother was in
00:31:24.080
We're going to go, we're going to go drink some beers.
00:31:28.320
Um, or Hey, you know, someone, you know, is celebrating whatever.
00:31:33.400
Or I always wanted to be the guy that was like, you know, the cool kid.
00:31:38.220
I think it goes back to that and be the friend that was like always in.
00:31:43.640
Like that was one thing that I would always just say, all right, cool.
00:31:53.640
But it's like, when you look at like, okay, but is that really what I want to do?
00:31:59.140
Whether it's, you know, for my goals serving what I'm doing right now.
00:32:02.640
And so learning to just say, no, I'm good and still have a fun time.
00:32:07.920
It's like, Hey, well, you don't have to like pregame and then go drink and, you know, try
00:32:15.600
Um, and so for me, that was a really big, you know, point, um, that I learned just once
00:32:22.560
So now, dude, you, you're, you're no stranger to dieting or doing exercise in any way, but like
00:32:29.500
tell me, talk a little bit about how 75 heart affected your relationship, uh, with food
00:32:40.100
And we also do like to have beers and have a good time.
00:32:43.880
Did it change your relationship or how did it affect your relationship with like, you
00:32:47.900
know, like you kind of touched on your last question, like going out and having a good
00:32:52.480
time and socializing and like your relationship with food or alcohol or how you view those things
00:33:04.660
Uh, because I'm not going to be the guy that never drinks again, or I'm not going to be
00:33:08.100
the guy that never has a burger and fries again.
00:33:11.340
Um, but understanding that like, there's a lot of times that I just would give into that
00:33:16.240
just because it was what society thought we should do.
00:33:23.340
And, you know, at times in a place, I think that that's very beneficial.
00:33:25.900
And that's what I really learned was like, and it actually made those times after 75
00:33:30.720
hard, more enjoyable because it was like, Hey, no, I really want to go out with the guys.
00:33:41.280
And it's like going out with the guys and the girls, uh, on the team and just having
00:33:45.220
some drinks, having some food, not worrying about tracking every little thing, but just
00:33:49.860
living in the moment and having the purpose of like, Hey, I'm going to have a good night
00:33:55.680
And then the next morning woke up, felt great about it.
00:33:57.900
Got right back on eating, you know, my, you know, pretty typical clean, you know, program
00:34:03.120
And dude, the best part about that is you don't feel fucking guilty about it at all.
00:34:07.200
And there's no like negotiating to get to the point to hang out with your fucking friends.
00:34:12.260
Like, like, dude, you know, when you're overweight and you know, you're not doing the shit that
00:34:16.400
you should be doing, uh, and you've been being a shit bag.
00:34:19.300
And it's real easy to just say, Oh, you know, you tell yourself, Oh dude, you know, I'm going
00:34:26.160
And then they justify this night out of gluttony and drinking and having, you know, and then
00:34:32.720
they do that same thing so far that they could find themselves a million miles from where
00:34:38.200
And so, you know, I think that's such an important point to talk about because I'm not changing
00:34:45.840
But what I do have to do is develop the ability so that when people set a beer in front of
00:34:50.820
me or a fucking pizza or French fries, I understand that I'm in control of these things.
00:34:58.500
And for so long, you know, and like a lot of people probably listening, I lived where I
00:35:06.460
When somebody put beer in front of me or pressured me a little bit to have a good time, or, you
00:35:12.260
know, I was able to very quickly, uh, tell myself a story inside that made it okay.
00:35:18.420
And that's something that I think ultimately is what costs us our dreams.
00:35:23.320
That's why this program is so important to talk about because those little compromises,
00:35:28.340
and this is where I come up with the idea of zero compromise.
00:35:31.080
Now it also applies to how you do the program, but the zero compromise mentality is we should
00:35:37.600
We should not compromise what we really want for our bitch voice.
00:35:41.800
That's telling us what we want in the moment right now.
00:35:44.500
You know, and I think it's such a powerful point, uh, that people realize when they complete
00:35:49.080
this program, the right way is that, holy shit, I'm actually in control of a whole lot
00:35:58.440
Like if you're playing, um, if you're playing checkers and you can only see the four squares,
00:36:04.380
you know, you, you have limited moves you can make, but once you see the whole board and
00:36:09.640
you can see how far you could actually go, it opens up a whole different existence for
00:36:15.200
And that's why, this is why I'll never go away from living this way because it continues
00:36:22.840
Every single time I complete one of these phases or a program, I gain something new.
00:36:29.800
Like you get a new stone or something, you know, but like, I don't know.
00:36:34.300
Man, I, I just, it's really cool to sit here and, and, and hear you, you know, talk about
00:36:39.540
like, what, what were the biggest takeaways for like overall, like, where do you think
00:36:44.120
the biggest gains were made in your, uh, you know, the skillsets that this program builds,
00:36:50.320
Like if you take someone who has basically living how we have all lived at one point and
00:36:55.600
you put them through this program, they're going to have, you know, grit, they're going
00:37:04.060
They're going to have all of these different qualities, sort of like you would see in Madden,
00:37:11.220
Like if you start thinking of all those qualities that you gained during 75 hard, that make up
00:37:16.160
the concept of mental toughness, um, where do you think you gain the most?
00:37:27.680
Like learning that skill, I think is something that has helped a tremendous amount of people.
00:37:32.460
And even once again, with myself, like that was one of the things, the ability.
00:37:35.240
So that's something that you, that you strengthened during a program that has, you've seen reflected
00:37:43.540
Like that's very, like, that's a real life thing.
00:37:45.980
Cause when you talk about, you know, grit and mental toughness and things, it's like, okay,
00:37:49.500
well, how do you, what does that look like in day to day?
00:37:52.280
And so the ability to say no to things that aren't in alignment with your goals or what
00:37:56.140
you want to do, I think is one of the most practical things that people, you know, get
00:38:04.120
And literally, cause otherwise you're not going to get things done.
00:38:07.260
And then, cause if you, you know, if you, you know, fuck around and you mess up your
00:38:10.680
schedule or whatever, then you're up real late.
00:38:16.160
Well, you're really just running down your own little like demise here of like, okay, you're doing
00:38:21.060
So it makes you have to have, once again, you know, a conversation with yourself and
00:38:26.980
Otherwise, if you're doing it right, you won't finish it.
00:38:30.920
You won't get through it with the right intent.
00:38:33.040
So you have to think what's most important in my life.
00:38:36.360
What are the things that need the most amount of attention and let me do those things first.
00:38:43.480
Um, and so for me, you know, I think that once again, it helps strengthen that.
00:38:47.080
And especially going into, you know, phase one now with the additional task and
00:38:51.500
It's like, okay, there's more on your plate and I still have to maintain everything that
00:38:56.520
I still have to maintain all of my relationships.
00:38:59.100
I have to, you know, still maintain all these things.
00:39:01.620
Like that was one of the standards that I hold for myself.
00:39:04.000
It's not, oh, I do this and I let other things slip.
00:39:07.580
Like the purpose is to add these things in and go through it, um, and still maintain everything
00:39:16.500
So if you're bitching and moaning and complaining and like, you know, fuck off, like you're doing
00:39:21.080
So like, you can't let it negatively affect other things.
00:39:23.180
So I think those two things are the most like real life skills that people can learn that
00:39:29.840
leads to the mental toughness, uh, through building that discipline to just stick to
00:39:35.400
And then over time, you're like, all right, cool.
00:39:41.240
And it's, it's a process, you know, figuring that out.
00:39:46.340
I think, dude, it's been so long since I felt like I'm hearing you talk about this.
00:39:50.780
Like it, it's good that you came on because, and it's good that I do these shows because
00:39:54.680
it, and I'm not saying this to brag, but it's been so long since I've remembered what
00:40:02.560
But like, dude, most people don't feel like they have any control.
00:40:06.360
And like, I'm like, as you're talking, I'm sitting here remembering how weak I was
00:40:11.220
back, you know, the, the Andy that existed before I started down this path.
00:40:17.960
Um, you know, I was that guy, I was the guy who couldn't get three or four days through
00:40:23.460
a diet program, like literally three or four days, you know what I'm saying?
00:40:26.800
And the whole time I was like arguing with myself to like, want to cheat the whole time.
00:40:33.240
Like I want to cheat on food, want to slack on the program.
00:40:36.340
Um, and that, that, that narrative of mediocrity that we advertise to ourselves over and over
00:40:51.800
We have to be able to, to, to rebut that on demand, recognize it and, and, and defeat
00:41:01.020
And that's one of the things that I love about this program is the awareness that it creates
00:41:06.240
to the conversation that we all have internally that no one really fucking talks about.
00:41:14.380
And I think another thing with, and why it's so great is that it's individualized based
00:41:23.580
Like, I mean, and I think about when I'm, you know, talking about my, you know, writing
00:41:26.900
post or sharing information, like I think back to the fat insecure will, you know, and it's
00:41:31.680
like, okay, well, what do they need to know to get started?
00:41:38.080
And you know, it helps give me an idea of like, okay, I wasn't where I'm at now.
00:41:43.100
So I need to, you know, speak and think in ways that matter to that.
00:41:46.160
And my, you know, point to that is, you know, for people that are thinking about starting
00:41:51.380
And they might hear like, oh, well, this dude fucking crushed it and blah, blah, blah,
00:41:56.320
Like, that would be like you never going to the gym because someone squats more than
00:42:02.040
Or like, that would be like you never going to that 5k with your family because you know,
00:42:06.180
someone's going to be there that ran a marathon one time.
00:42:11.940
And it's like, okay, the worst thing you can do is just be a little bitch and not start.
00:42:15.700
It's like, get in the game and everybody else will support you through that process.
00:42:19.420
The people that have ran that 5k, that didn't ran the half marathon, that didn't ran the
00:42:23.580
Like they are excited for those people to start their journey and understanding that.
00:42:28.200
Talk about that because you did this with Derek Wida.
00:42:33.520
Like talk about how it affected like your relationships with, you know, your family,
00:42:38.480
your friends, um, the people here, you know, or even people on social media.
00:42:43.780
Talk a little bit about how it was received as you went through the program.
00:42:47.120
Because I think one of the coolest things about 75 hard is the culture that's behind
00:42:53.400
Without, without, you remove the motherfuckers that pretend they did it.
00:42:56.460
But I'm talking about the people who actually have done it.
00:42:58.740
No, I mean, right off the top of the, you know, top of my head, I mean, the first word
00:43:05.780
You know, I mean, I've built awesome relationships with people just through DMS of like, you
00:43:09.600
know, they saw me post on my calendar or they're like, oh, we're on the same day.
00:43:12.700
And I'm like, yo, we're day twins, you know, like whatever.
00:43:14.880
And, you know, but they're starting at a different spot.
00:43:17.080
You know, they might've been, you know, 300 pounds or 120 pounds, or they might've been,
00:43:21.880
you know, in this career or that career or different workout styles.
00:43:24.460
Like it didn't matter because the respect that is earned through doing that work.
00:43:28.780
And even though we're not physically together, what's so great is that, you know, through
00:43:32.780
social media as a platform and through those things, you can connect with people and you
00:43:36.760
can tell who's really doing the work and, and, and who's not.
00:43:39.660
And, you know, that respect it's, it's not, Hey man, well, I'm doing it better than you
00:43:44.980
It's like, it's like, bro, that workout today was one of those fucking test days, man.
00:43:55.160
And bro, I'm somebody who loves competition, right?
00:43:57.140
But this is a competitive culture where you compete against yourself.
00:44:02.000
And, uh, you know, what was great, uh, you know, and even like, uh, the reading 10 pages
00:44:07.420
I mean, for the last eight years working here, no, uh, you told me to read magic of things
00:44:12.640
And, uh, I've read it every year since, and I read all the time now, but, um, I just,
00:44:17.480
listen, Hey, that to my own horn to, Hey, Hey, I get it.
00:44:23.080
Listen, you know, I'm just teasing, but, uh, this is a fucking stud.
00:44:29.580
Was someone that he hadn't read a book in years.
00:44:33.260
And so for us, you know, like, did you guys read the same books?
00:44:36.740
We didn't read the same book, but we like traded ideas.
00:44:39.900
Not book buddies, but like ideas on like, Hey, what book are you reading right now?
00:44:44.100
Like, and so we, you know, kind of flip flop some things and like, it was, it was cool,
00:44:48.440
Um, so we were able to connect on that, which, I mean, he's a great friend and we've done
00:44:51.560
a lot of cool shit over the last four years together, but we had never talked about, you
00:44:55.360
know, things like that, or even talked about, you know, uh, you know, business relationships.
00:44:59.720
I mean, like just life in general, you know, and we were able to kind of start connecting
00:45:04.340
Cause some of the workouts we did together and like, dude, when you're out there just dragging
00:45:07.860
a sled around doing, you know, we had stupid shit Sundays, like we just came up
00:45:12.260
with just painful, dumb stuff that it's like, all right, well, what are we going to talk
00:45:17.820
I remember seeing you guys out there like talk about those workouts.
00:45:22.340
Um, but you know, you get done and it's like, I always feel the best.
00:45:26.120
That's the thing is like, you step out of the truck and the rain is cold and you're like,
00:45:33.680
And then you're like, like about midway through, you're like, man, we need like some motivational
00:45:37.180
music behind like a montage or some shit, you know?
00:45:41.480
And then by the end, it's like, I'm just going to stand out in the rain all day.
00:45:48.320
Bro, we always talk DJ and I, I always tell DJ, cause like, we'll go outside, you know,
00:45:52.740
he, he does cardio with me regardless of what's going on.
00:45:56.120
So like, he may not even be doing the program, but he's still out doing it.
00:46:00.300
And when it's cold as fuck or it's raining and shit, we'll go out and we'll both be like,
00:46:05.760
And I'll be like, dude, give it, give us 10 minutes and 10 minutes will be great.
00:46:14.660
When I get, when I get done and I'm walking back up, like we walked back up to the back
00:46:19.060
I'm like, there ain't no motherfuckers out here doing this shit.
00:46:22.160
Like I get all cocky and shit, but dude, that's, that's what the fucking program does.
00:46:26.920
It makes you realize how fucking powerful you actually are.
00:46:31.200
Like in the real world, like you actually pick up your phone and look and motherfuckers are
00:46:36.980
out, you know, sip of mimosas when you're grinding hard as fuck in the rain.
00:46:44.820
It makes us understand that dude, we can fucking do hard shit that other people won't do.
00:46:50.580
Which actually brings up, I'm glad you said that.
00:46:52.320
It brings up the third point that in my brain, I was like, all right, I can't leave before
00:46:56.220
And that is that things are never as bad as they seem, right?
00:47:00.800
And I think once again, uh, how does that apply to life?
00:47:05.100
Like you might get this project and you're like, oh fuck, that's going to suck.
00:47:08.760
Or, oh man, I don't know how I'm going to do that.
00:47:12.420
But once you get started on it, right, it becomes easier every fricking time.
00:47:18.020
And then when you get done, that sense of confidence is instilled in you because you did the shit that
00:47:24.520
And so it's like, I think the workouts are a great example of that, of if you can take
00:47:28.620
once again, not just compartmentalize that for fitness, but move that into other areas
00:47:32.740
of life, having that conversation with the friend or having, you know, whatever it is,
00:47:37.000
it's like, that is what is going to help build that mindset and the grit and, and all those
00:47:42.500
things in the long-term success of like, dude, it's never as bad as you think.
00:47:46.820
And, you know, it takes me back to something that my dad taught me from a very young age was,
00:47:52.880
And he, and with that, it was like, oh, well, you know, I don't know, like, I guess it could
00:47:56.460
be pretty fucking bad, but we're going to find out, you know, and it always just like
00:48:00.460
gave me a little sense of like, well, eh, let's see.
00:48:04.440
And that re like it, you know, re-triggered in my brain going through some of those things
00:48:08.800
where it's like, fuck man, I don't want to do this.
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And then you get, you know, started or whatever, the momentum going, it's easier.
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And then just even that little moment of like, Hey, you know what?
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To me, that's what helps build that confidence that then you take to the next one.
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You know, it's not over celebrating or, you know, Brad, it's just like, that's a conversation
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with you and yourself in that moment builds confidence.
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And then the next time, and then the next time it's just simply keeping, you know, your
00:48:35.840
So, you know, it's so weird as you're sitting here thinking, I'm just sitting here over
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here thinking about this whole idea of confidence.
00:48:40.860
What's so weird about it and ironic about the whole idea is like you, it's not even
00:48:46.840
like we talk about it in terms of building confidence, but it's not really even building
00:48:51.700
It's exposing confidence because what it's really doing, like you're capable of this shit
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You just don't think you're capable of this shit right now.
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And so it's so weird to think about how fucking all these concepts, how, how strange they
00:49:09.460
Because when you really think about confidence, think about building it, you, you didn't change
00:49:17.500
When you went from one mile to 1.5 miles or two miles or three miles, nothing changed
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other than the internal conversation that you're having with yourself and a little bit of muscular
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Um, and so you were always capable of that, you know?
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And it's weird to think about how us humans have to go through these little processes to
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pull the fucking carpet back on what we're actually capable of.
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But it's, it's a process that it's the only process I like, you know, you can't do it any
00:49:49.000
But yeah, you have to like go through that slow uncovering process of what we're actually
00:49:56.660
Um, because I could sit there and talk to someone right now and maybe it's you, you're listening
00:50:01.340
right now and convince you, you know, I could try to convince you all day of all these things
00:50:06.620
But until you actually see yourself do them and push yourself through that, you won't even
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You know, but, but you'll come to find out, holy shit, I was actually capable of all this
00:50:22.080
I've never thought of it as like uncovering or exposing, but.
00:50:31.100
It's fascinating to me to think about like the mental processes that are required for
00:50:35.360
us to come to these conclusions that were honestly true the whole entire time.
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Or we didn't believe that we had those qualities in us.
00:50:46.320
You know, a lot of that I could get into this whole thing.
00:50:48.620
A lot of that I think has to do with the way society presents, um, our opportunities to
00:50:54.600
us based upon who we are, where we grow up, how much money we came from, et cetera, et
00:50:59.760
Now it's race and all these other things, but it's interesting to think about.
00:51:03.860
Dude, um, I was going to ask you if you've done the other phases, but it, you know, you're
00:51:21.140
And it, like, it literally started fucking beautifully, um, in the sense of like my very,
00:51:27.340
like I had said, all right, I'm going to finish this competition, you know, and then on Monday
00:51:31.700
Well, of course, you know, Sunday, my flight gets delayed.
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So I'm waking up on day one of phase one, you know, trying to rearrange flights, trying
00:51:44.480
You know, he, he could have easily said, oh no, I'll just start another day.
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Because that's not what the commitment to myself was.
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And I was like, well, I committed, I'm starting here.
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And if I break this commitment, well, I've already fucking set myself back.
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So, and once again, I thought about, well, how bad can it be?
00:52:00.640
I'm going to attack this day and just, Hey, if I get to the day, end of the day and maybe
00:52:05.500
somehow something happens and it just isn't a, well, you know what?
00:52:08.060
I gave it my best shot, but I'm not going to wake up and be like, no, I'll just start
00:52:28.860
And, um, I was talking to him and he, I'm like, bro, look, I've got, he's like, you,
00:52:35.500
I said, look, bro, I got to do what I can fucking do.
00:52:44.800
He got to fucking feel it because I can still hear the stories, bro.
00:52:48.100
Like I can still hear the shit sometimes, you know, like, oh dude, start Monday.
00:52:57.940
It's just weird how, you know, we have to constantly fight that person who used to be
00:53:08.360
Um, where you got all these different versions of yourself that like live inside of you that
00:53:13.640
like fight to manifest themselves in the physical form.
00:53:18.040
Like that fat motherfucker that used to, that you guys see that I post every once in a
00:53:21.860
while that dude's still in there because I hear his motherfucking voice sometimes, bro.
00:53:27.540
I'm like, oh, I go immediately to the fucking gym, like, or do something.
00:53:32.280
Like I, my life is so much fucking better from when I was that guy, that 350 pound guy who
00:53:39.020
lied to himself about fucking everything, who, who justified every fucking thing that
00:53:44.560
was put in front of him to now where like, I know I'm in control of my outside elements
00:53:49.140
a hundred percent to the point where I don't even stress about it.
00:53:51.680
Just the removal of anxiety in your life and the removal of that powerless, hopeless feeling
00:54:01.360
Like, and I know some of you guys right now, you know what I'm talking about, bro.
00:54:04.720
You're taught like right now you're trying to get healthy and you cannot stop thinking
00:54:09.520
about the Chinese food or the pizza or the shit.
00:54:12.460
Like, bro, you have to understand that's, that's a version of yourself inside of yourself
00:54:17.680
like that wants to come to life and you have other versions in your, of yourself in there.
00:54:23.140
And one of them is that ideal self, that person who, who looks the way you want to look, who
00:54:28.560
lives the way you want to live, who has the confidence, who has the belief, who has the
00:54:33.060
grit, who has the fortitude, who is willing to come out.
00:54:37.100
If you would listen to their fucking voice and listen to what they tell you to do.
00:54:41.060
You know, that's one of the beautiful things about this program, bro, is I think it teaches
00:54:45.120
you, um, how to not only just be aware of those justifying conversations, but it also
00:54:52.500
tunes you up to listen to the one that you should listen to.
00:54:55.360
You know, I, that's been the most powerful thing for me.
00:54:58.520
And that, that shit you're talking about, those conversations of slight dude, that shit
00:55:10.420
And I, I think the fact that we're aware of it now, hopefully we'll help keep that
00:55:14.100
away because I think people don't realize, I think a lot of the people's problems is
00:55:21.700
You know, they just can't understand why they can't control their appetite or can't control
00:55:25.700
their alcohol or can't control whatever, you know, their discipline to go train or read
00:55:33.320
And I think, you know, for me, it also helps, you know, with just humility in that sense
00:55:38.800
of like, okay, I might have some, you know, discipline right now.
00:55:41.800
I might've done some cool shit, but it's like, well, you started off just a regular, you
00:55:52.440
Cause when you realize what it takes to get there and you've earned it, you realize how
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And so you definitely don't run around acting all cocky and shit about it.
00:56:01.820
Like, look, when that fat dude speaks inside me, bro, I get like my nuts shrink a little
00:56:11.440
Watch down the street, you know, walking down the street.
00:56:17.200
A lot of people are probably thinking about getting their shit together right now.
00:56:27.160
You know, um, I think all too often people, you know, they focus so much on like having
00:56:32.300
Like, and I think that's obviously part of the deal, but here's the deal, you know,
00:56:35.560
over the last eight years, I don't have a typical why, you know, in the sense of like
00:56:42.340
Or, Hey, I have a health concern that I got to do this for this, or Hey, I got to, you
00:56:49.980
All too often in society, you know, people overemphasize.
00:56:52.940
I think, Hey, you got to have a, why you got to have some big, like reason you got
00:56:58.360
Like I've always been more of the approach of like, well, I'm going to fucking give it
00:57:02.380
And if something down the road happens, well, all right, I'll deal with that.
00:57:06.380
Well, isn't a, why isn't the biggest, why like, Hey, I want to kick ass in life.
00:57:11.160
Like, I mean, that isn't that as good of a, why is any of them?
00:57:16.860
I do it consistently because one, I feel better.
00:57:19.180
One, I always feel the best that I do when I know I'm doing everything that I can do.
00:57:24.940
So what really gets me with like depression, anxiety issues, which I've been very open
00:57:28.580
about having is when I know I'm not doing what I should be doing and having the discipline
00:57:33.580
to control that and actually do those things, understanding that it helps me find a better
00:57:40.880
And then you become addicted in a healthy way to improving.
00:57:44.860
And then the ripple effect of that, like, what about your friends?
00:57:50.240
Like, bro, I have friends who have stepped up and become better because of this.
00:57:54.400
And I also have friends that I don't really fuck with anymore because they chose to go
00:58:00.980
But I mean, this is a great, I mean, when you talk about why it's like, I don't know,
00:58:05.960
like living the best fucking life you could possibly fucking live and knowing that like
00:58:09.940
when you die, that you did everything you fucking could to have an awesome life.
00:58:21.860
And I think I misspoke is because I think on the other side, it's like, OK, you know,
00:58:27.600
It's like, well, fuck, I already know what it's like to be once again where I'm at right
00:58:33.820
And the thing that you, you know, once again, have taught me from, you know, eight years
00:58:36.920
ago, it's like, you know, uncovering your true potential.
00:58:41.920
And I don't have necessarily what a specific is.
00:58:48.240
And I'm going to run really fucking hard at it and see where the chips fall, because
00:58:51.460
at the end of the day, like you said, you can lay your head down at night and be
00:58:53.900
like, fuck, yeah, I gave it my best and I have a sense of pride in that.
00:58:57.400
And that's built over that time of those little decisions.
00:59:06.300
Your ability to execute goes up because you know you can execute.
00:59:11.180
And I would also say just even this time of year, you know, starting tomorrow or whenever
00:59:16.380
or starting today when this comes out, you know, would be something that sets you up for
00:59:20.420
success because it's when most people struggle per se.
00:59:24.780
It's when society tells you you should gain a little weight.
00:59:36.020
I'm going to keep my commitment and I'm going to work through it.
00:59:38.460
I'm not worried about Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's.
00:59:41.440
You'll handle those situations when you get to it, because if you do it the right way,
00:59:45.120
by the time you get to those decisions, you will have already started to build confidence
00:59:49.300
You have already started to build the ability to say no to that bullshit that you had been
00:59:54.800
So you can't look at what you're going to feel or think six or, you know, six weeks from
01:00:01.920
If you want to fucking get better, you say, yes, I'm going to get better and I'm starting
01:00:07.000
And then by the time you get to those events that you build up in your brain, you'll be
01:00:11.160
stronger and you'll be better than you are right now.
01:00:13.520
And you'll handle those and you'll be able to get through that and it'll build more fucking
01:00:17.620
And then by the time that happens, you'll be into the new year.
01:00:25.300
I think that's one of the key lessons that people who have truly lived this program the
01:00:34.020
This is what I always hear back, bro, is one of the most powerful skills that these people
01:00:38.240
start to learn is how to create momentum on demand.
01:00:42.180
Which, dude, what better skill could you have in life than to be able to say, hey, man,
01:00:46.980
man, I'm recognizing I'm off right now is when that's going to change.
01:00:54.240
Like if you could control that momentum and you could control that and flip it on when
01:00:58.200
you realize that it's sort of dimmed off for a minute, what actually can stop you?
01:01:05.380
Like what can, the only thing that can stop you is you.
01:01:09.000
But the only thing that can stop you is you deciding that you want to stop.
01:01:13.940
And by the way, sometimes it's okay to stop, but wouldn't you want that stop decision to
01:01:18.700
be a decision and not something that you are just happen to fall upon because you made weak
01:01:32.000
So, uh, do a phase one and then, you know, take my 30 days off, uh, start phase two.
01:01:39.180
Cause I'm so focused on, Hey, one day at a time with phase one.
01:01:42.640
Um, but I know I, I'm going, I'm going all the way through.
01:01:46.580
So what would you say to someone, man, who's thinking about, you know, they're hearing this
01:01:53.020
and they're thinking, you know, I think this might be something I need to do, but I'm not
01:01:58.960
I mean, it's literally that plain and simple, you know, and I would, you know, I would challenge
01:02:02.580
the people that, you know, might be more similar to me that think that they already are mentally
01:02:09.220
It's like, okay, well, who says that you can't get better with that?
01:02:13.260
And I built the fucking program and I get tremendously better every single time.
01:02:19.500
Like if it was a sales pitch, there wouldn't be a billion hashtags.
01:02:27.760
So if you're thinking about doing it and you're one of these people who is already a successful
01:02:32.600
person, these areas to your standard, I challenge you to raise your standard with you.
01:02:40.360
Push yourself a little harder through the program.
01:02:44.040
You know, one of my favorite things is every time I finish one of these cycles, dude, I am
01:02:47.920
literally the fucking best I've ever been at the oldest I've been.
01:02:51.640
You know, I'm supposed to be getting worse, getting tremendously better.
01:02:56.000
Whooped everyone's ass around here in the transformation.
01:02:58.080
And I mean, there were some people that did good, you know, but, uh, I held my own.
01:03:13.180
If you're interested in 75 heart, first of all, bro, thanks for coming on, man.
01:03:18.580
I want to bring you back on, uh, maybe when we have someone else who's done the program
01:03:24.400
and just talk to them as well, because I, I just love the things that come out of these
01:03:31.820
It's never the same things that we talk about with everybody.
01:03:34.540
So, um, I would like to have you back to contribute to some of those conversations, uh, in the
01:03:44.140
If you're someone who's thinking about doing 75 hard, um, you go listen to the web or listen
01:03:55.760
Um, and if you have a story and if you've done the program and you want to be on the podcast,
01:04:00.740
something that you want to share, uh, it's 75 hard at Andy for cella.com.
01:04:09.040
Um, explain why you think you'd be a good fit for what we want to talk about.
01:04:13.240
And, uh, maybe we'll get you on, but you know, there's also a book too.
01:04:17.220
It's on Andy for cella.com, but you can hear about the program for free on episode 14.
01:04:21.480
Um, and the book just dives much, much deeper in, uh, definitely highly recommend the book,
01:04:32.680
Cause I know people are going to have questions.
01:04:48.660
And you guys should follow him too, man, because, uh, he's actually one of my favorite
01:04:52.060
follows just because of the stuff that he writes and his captions.
01:04:57.080
Uh, give my man a follow and, uh, I, I guarantee you won't regret it.
01:05:05.140
You've got value out of the show, which I think you had to have this time.
01:05:09.640
Um, share the show, you know, uh, you don't necessarily have to post it.
01:05:13.280
Posts are definitely awesome, but really more so more important.
01:05:16.580
Share with your friends, the people who you think will get value out of it.
01:05:19.600
Give them a text, you know, send them the link.
01:05:23.680
I don't advertise on the show unless of course it's for my own children's books.
01:05:27.180
Um, then I do it very, uh, generously, but, uh, we spread on word of mouth guys.
01:05:34.800
If we do a good job, if it's something that you thought was valuable, it's something that