REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 176. #75HARD vs Will Grumke

00:00:00.000 What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realest, say goodbye to

00:00:21.100 the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality.

00:00:25.340 Guys, today we have a special 75 part edition and you're going to really like this one.

00:00:31.100 This is, this is one I've been trying to get done for a while.

00:00:33.600 Um, edition of real AF.

00:00:36.400 Okay.

00:00:37.040 Uh, putting this out on Sunday for a reason.

00:00:39.440 It's because a lot of you guys are lying to yourselves right now.

00:00:43.180 Currently, as you're listening to this, talking about how you're going to fucking start tomorrow 0.89

00:00:46.500 and fix all your shit. 0.99

00:00:48.040 And so what I hope by having these 75 hard podcasts come out on Sunday is that they will

00:00:54.320 convince you to actually follow through on that promise that you've made to yourself,

00:00:57.620 uh, for the last, however many months or years.

00:01:01.360 Okay.

00:01:01.800 Because I know what that's like.

00:01:03.000 I'm not, I'm not talking shit.

00:01:04.440 I'm not trying to make you feel bad.

00:01:06.160 I know what that's like.

00:01:07.740 That's the whole point.

00:01:08.680 I created 75 hard was to break myself out of that cycle and it works.

00:01:13.220 Um, and it's a real lifestyle and I have a special guest to talk about that today.

00:01:16.660 But before I get into that couple reminders, one powerless back in stock, uh, just so you

00:01:24.040 know.

00:01:24.260 So if you wanted a powerless journal that those are back in stock to Otis, the happy camper,

00:01:30.020 my children's book, uh, which is book number seven of what I think will be, I thought it

00:01:35.940 was going to be 10, but I actually think it's going to be many more, uh, books.

00:01:39.560 And I want to talk to you guys a second about my books.

00:01:41.900 Um, I usually say there's no ads.

00:01:43.640 Guess what?

00:01:44.080 Today, we're having a fucking ad.

00:01:45.640 We're going to have it about my shit.

00:01:47.260 All right.

00:01:47.980 The reason I write these books guys is because over many, many years of being in the personal

00:01:53.540 development space, I've realized that a lot of parents really want to teach their kids

00:01:57.920 the right things, but we're never actually taught those things themselves or just now

00:02:02.920 realizing these things, um, in their lives.

00:02:06.040 And so for that reason, they don't really know what to teach their kids or how to help

00:02:10.380 their kids along the right path, which as we all know is probably the most important

00:02:15.200 time in their life.

00:02:16.260 So the reason that we created these books guys was really because we needed to get to

00:02:21.820 people sooner.

00:02:22.940 Okay.

00:02:23.380 Just like we talk about indoctrination on the, on the left of all this crazy shit, right?

00:02:28.520 Um, well, indoctrination is going to happen either way.

00:02:31.680 So do you want them to be raised with the right values of hard work, uh, doing the right

00:02:36.300 thing, uh, being a good citizen, all of these things that represent what this country is about

00:02:42.380 and should be about, or do you want them to be indoctrinated by people who want them

00:02:46.800 to believe that, you know, they're fucking, who knows what they want them to believe. 0.57

00:02:52.560 Actually, no, I have no fucking idea, but anyway, this is a tool.

00:02:56.420 These books are a tool and the kids love them.

00:02:58.160 So, um, there's no cursing.

00:03:00.020 You don't have to worry about that.

00:03:00.840 I'm not, I'm not that raw.

00:03:02.040 Right.

00:03:02.400 Like, uh, but they are some really helpful books.

00:03:05.200 Um, and probably the most rewarding project that I've been a part of, uh, because all of

00:03:10.120 the posts and tags that you guys make that use these books, um, they're awesome, man.

00:03:15.420 It's super incredible.

00:03:16.480 And, uh, I really appreciate your guys' support, but anyhow, the new books available on the website.

00:03:21.180 So you can check that out now with that all being said on.

00:03:28.160 To what will be the greatest 75 hard episode ever, or at least so far with my man, my good

00:03:35.000 friend, fellow first former here at HQ, Will Grumke.

00:03:39.560 What's up, bro?

00:03:40.460 What's going on, man?

00:03:41.420 How are you?

00:03:42.100 Oh, doing well.

00:03:43.120 Doing well.

00:03:43.560 It's actually just, uh, wrapped up outdoor workout number two for phase one.

00:03:47.120 So it was it out there.

00:03:48.380 It just annoyingly enough cold that like when you're doing sprints, like it just burns the

00:03:52.540 throat the whole time.

00:03:53.180 So, you know, it was, uh, not too bad.

00:03:55.100 Yeah.

00:03:55.480 I, I, I bowed out of my 75 hard that I started, uh, to go the last 75 days of the year.

00:04:01.180 I, uh, I wasn't being able to give it with my injury and shit.

00:04:04.260 I just felt like I was out, not giving it the full intent.

00:04:07.100 I'm still doing everything.

00:04:08.220 So I got to go out and do the cardio here, uh, in a little bit, but yeah, sometimes you

00:04:13.160 win.

00:04:13.380 Sometimes you don't win.

00:04:14.520 And that's the reality.

00:04:15.840 I wasn't giving it the proper intent.

00:04:17.740 Now, with that being said, uh, bro, for those of you guys that don't know who will is.

00:04:24.660 Okay.

00:04:24.840 I know a lot of you guys have followed first form.

00:04:26.700 Um, this is, first of all, one of my best friends, uh, he's on the board of our company.

00:04:31.820 Okay.

00:04:32.400 Um, he he's a self-made guy, uh, came in, started working at us.

00:04:37.860 Uh, how many, how many years ago?

00:04:39.540 Uh, 2013.

00:04:40.260 So this is eight and a little bit of change.

00:04:42.380 Yeah.

00:04:42.480 And when you started, you were a minimum wage guy.

00:04:44.280 Yep.

00:04:44.480 Yeah.

00:04:44.880 So he started as a minimum wage guy, um, has built a career here at first form.

00:04:49.420 He's an executive here at first form, literally started from the bottom, uh, is one of the

00:04:54.360 most incredible dudes that you could ever meet, um, for a lot of different reasons.

00:04:58.900 Also one of the toughest guys.

00:05:00.400 And before we get into 75 hard, I want to talk about one of the toughest fucking things

00:05:06.260 I've ever witnessed in humanity.

00:05:08.640 Um, and you know what I'm going to talk about, but you guys, so one day this now, now

00:05:13.880 we'll talk, we'll get into this, but you weren't an exceptional, like gifted endurance athlete,

00:05:23.200 right?

00:05:23.980 No, not at all.

00:05:24.840 I mean, I grew up a fat kid and the very first time that my mom made me, you know, start running

00:05:29.120 or being active to try to lose weight.

00:05:30.500 Like I cried, like my legs chafed so hard and like just from a mile that I cried and I was

00:05:36.600 like, Nope, this running thing ain't for me.

00:05:38.060 So definitely not gifted.

00:05:39.820 So you weren't one of these guys who's just cross country guy and a great athlete, all

00:05:44.140 these things.

00:05:44.780 No, no.

00:05:45.360 I mean, the only running experience I had is, uh, after I lost 50 pounds.

00:05:48.380 I mean, a lot of that, I was running like three miles a day, um, you know, a little

00:05:51.760 bit of a freshman year track, but that's, that's about it.

00:05:54.220 So you, you grew up a fat kid.

00:05:55.820 Oh yeah.

00:05:56.360 Yeah.

00:05:56.560 Yeah.

00:05:56.720 So, so, so guys, just so you understand, Will's not a little guy.

00:06:01.280 He's a, he's a big muscular guy.

00:06:03.280 He's not like a real thin guy.

00:06:06.100 This dude just decides and why this is relevant.

00:06:08.660 Okay.

00:06:09.100 It's because usually these runners all kind of the same build.

00:06:11.900 They're, they're, they're smaller guys, you know, they're, they're built for running.

00:06:16.560 Okay.

00:06:17.040 Will's not built for running.

00:06:18.500 Will's built for like being a super soldier or something.

00:06:22.020 I don't know what it is, but anyhow, this dude just decides one day.

00:06:25.920 What, tell him what you decided.

00:06:27.940 Yeah.

00:06:28.220 So, uh, about eight months ago, decided on a Thursday around one o'clock in the afternoon

00:06:33.600 that the next day I was going to wake up and run a hundred miles in under 24 hours.

00:06:38.500 And, uh, I was going to run laps around the building until I got it done.

00:06:41.460 So what happened?

00:06:43.060 That's what I did.

00:06:43.880 19 hours and 50 or no, 45 minutes later, got it done.

00:06:48.420 19 hours straight.

00:06:50.100 He ran a hundred miles in laps around our headquarters and I watched him.

00:06:56.580 Okay.

00:06:57.040 It took me like three hours to figure out what was going on because when I got to work that

00:07:01.340 day, I saw him running and then I left later to go do something and he was still running.

00:07:07.760 And it was like way long of a time to where you shouldn't have still been running.

00:07:11.560 Right.

00:07:12.000 And I'm like, Hey, what the fuck is Will doing?

00:07:14.160 And the guys are like, Oh, he's running a hundred miles.

00:07:16.020 And I'm like, Holy shit, bro.

00:07:19.780 Let's talk about that before we can get into 75 hard, because I want people to understand

00:07:24.100 like, what was that like and what, and what, what, what made, what inspired you?

00:07:29.740 Like what is dude, I know you and you know, not these, these guys listening, they, they

00:07:34.180 don't know you at all, but I know that was a test for you.

00:07:37.120 Yeah.

00:07:37.380 That was, that's what that was about.

00:07:38.840 Absolutely.

00:07:39.180 Um, and really, you know, the, the message that I want people to, you know, kind of take

00:07:43.640 away from it is I didn't even, you know, post about it or that I was going to do it, you

00:07:47.180 know, because it was, it was a hundred percent for me.

00:07:49.920 Um, and you know, really what it was, was, you know, living up to the, you know, the words

00:07:54.360 that we talk about of leading by example and always pushing yourself.

00:07:58.380 And, you know, over the last four years, um, I had started to dabble in a little bit

00:08:03.080 of running, um, not consistently, but using it as a test because it's a hundred percent

00:08:07.980 you and your mind, right?

00:08:09.620 Like your bike can't fail.

00:08:11.160 You have no one else to depend on you.

00:08:13.140 No one else knows how hard you actually went, but you know, so when you get done with a run,

00:08:17.880 okay, you have to be honest with yourself.

00:08:19.320 Was that your best or did you just kind of half acid and people can celebrate it?

00:08:23.620 And oh my God, you did so great.

00:08:25.020 But at the end of the day, you know, um, and so for me, it was, if I'm going to tell

00:08:29.700 people that they need to go out and constantly push themselves and we talk about finding your

00:08:34.000 limits or pushing past your limits, I hadn't found that.

00:08:36.960 And so that's what this run was about for me.

00:08:39.760 And, you know, I started with, you know, running my first half marathon and at the time it was

00:08:44.300 scary.

00:08:44.720 I hadn't run anything over a 5k and I was like, man, we got to go four times that distance.

00:08:48.440 I got 30 days to prepare.

00:08:50.080 I did that.

00:08:51.180 And, you know, I did well at it.

00:08:52.960 Um, but the next couple of days I was wrecked and I was like, okay, built my confidence a

00:08:57.780 little bit.

00:08:58.100 Hey, I can do hard things.

00:08:59.240 And then about a year went by and I hadn't really pushed myself in that way, you know, and really

00:09:03.720 getting mentally uncomfortable.

00:09:04.820 So I was like, all right, marathon it is.

00:09:07.280 Um, and I went out and I ran a marathon, uh, and did really well with that.

00:09:11.080 And two weeks later, you know, cause Sal challenged me.

00:09:13.640 He's like, dude, you're five minutes away from the Boston marathon time.

00:09:15.980 Like just, if you can do it, I'll go with you.

00:09:17.920 So I went out and I ran another marathon.

00:09:19.940 Um, and then that built my confidence.

00:09:22.400 Cause that was the first time when I realized that like, when push comes to shove, I am

00:09:27.660 mentally tough enough to give it everything I have and accomplish my goal.

00:09:31.680 Cause I only beat the cutoff by like 13 seconds had to be wheelchaired off the, you know, the

00:09:36.240 finish line.

00:09:36.800 And like, it was, I was literally destroyed.

00:09:39.800 Um, but I did it and you know, that sense of confidence and finding, you know, that place

00:09:45.480 past what I thought my limits were, you know, became something I was pursuing, you know,

00:09:49.280 and you talk about it all the time of like pursuing, you know, your potential, whatever

00:09:53.080 that is.

00:09:53.740 And so I had a new threshold and then it was, okay, I'm gonna do a 50 K trail run 32 miles.

00:09:58.200 Um, and then from there was when I was like the first thought of like, I bet I could run

00:10:03.860 a hundred miles in 24 hours.

00:10:05.520 And instantly I was like, no, now you got to do it.

00:10:08.660 Yeah.

00:10:08.860 And I was like, I was like, nah, you can't do that.

00:10:11.040 That's, that's insane.

00:10:12.120 Why would you do that?

00:10:12.940 Who could do that?

00:10:13.860 And it's like, no, you could do it.

00:10:15.220 And as soon as, like you said, as soon as I started debating it, it was like, well,

00:10:19.600 I'm gonna have to test this theory.

00:10:21.100 And, uh, so we did.

00:10:22.920 And, uh, I, I went for it actually, uh, four months earlier.

00:10:26.600 And made it about 70 miles before my body completely shut down, which was twice as far

00:10:31.680 as it ever ran in my life.

00:10:33.200 And, you know, that's where Sal had to come pick me up off the road, take me home.

00:10:37.500 Uh, I was shaken uncontrollably.

00:10:39.520 I couldn't move.

00:10:40.760 Hypothermia.

00:10:41.400 Yeah.

00:10:41.600 I mean, I was, I was in a bad, really bad spot.

00:10:44.500 Um, and then four months later, it just, it weighed on me that whole four months, you

00:10:48.780 know, looking at, okay, I found my limit physically, but mentally I was still like, I can do it.

00:10:53.280 I can do it.

00:10:53.900 Um, and I didn't run in between.

00:10:56.600 You know, I ran three times, three miles just cause we got suckered into some workouts

00:11:00.040 around here.

00:11:01.220 And, uh, and then, you know, finally on that Thursday, it was just, it just hit me.

00:11:05.800 And I was like, fuck it.

00:11:07.540 I'm running it tomorrow morning.

00:11:09.100 And, uh, you know, showed up at four o'clock in the morning, got out of my truck and started

00:11:13.320 running and 19 hours and 45 minutes later, it was done.

00:11:17.740 So dude, that, first of all, that's incredible, man.

00:11:20.880 Like, I hope you guys can appreciate how, how big of a mental feat that is, not just physical.

00:11:27.020 I mean, there's lots of people that train to run these ultra distance runs and, and they

00:11:32.180 run a hundred miles or even longer, 200 miles.

00:11:34.400 Right.

00:11:34.740 They like, there's guys that are running these huge races and, and they train for these

00:11:40.400 races, right?

00:11:41.080 Like for sometimes for even years to get to this point.

00:11:45.380 And what Will did was he just said, Hey, I'm, I'm going to go see how far I can go and went

00:11:50.820 out and fucking started running. 0.90

00:11:52.160 So like, I hope you could appreciate how big of a mental test that is.

00:11:57.040 Um, it's one of the most impressive things I've ever been able to witness.

00:12:00.740 And, and, uh, I'm not surprised that you were able to accomplish it at all, dude.

00:12:05.460 What, what were some of the conversations that you had?

00:12:08.500 Like, dude, I, I know how my conversations are when I'm doing shit that just sucks because

00:12:12.680 there had to have been points during that run that sucked.

00:12:16.300 Like for real, they're like, like you, I know there's zones of momentum and you kind of go

00:12:21.820 this other place and then you're, you know, 40 minutes from where you were.

00:12:26.280 And then you get into these zones where every step is complete agony and complete willful

00:12:33.620 intent and grit and guts.

00:12:35.580 So what were some of the conversations like that happened when, during those times?

00:12:43.060 Yeah.

00:12:43.260 So a lot of conversations, like the internal conversation.

00:12:45.740 Yeah.

00:12:45.980 Yeah.

00:12:46.280 Yeah.

00:12:46.480 And, and another thing I want to note is, uh, I ran it with no headphones, right?

00:12:50.280 No music, no podcast, because I wanted to have those conversations and you can't distract

00:12:55.760 yourself then.

00:12:56.360 So it's like, all right, well, you're by yourself with your thoughts and, uh, figure it out.

00:12:59.820 And so, you know, a lot of it was, uh, you know, thinking about obviously, well, once

00:13:05.220 again, no one else knows that I'm doing this.

00:13:07.120 Right.

00:13:07.540 And when you're running and yeah, you kind of have those times of momentum, but I had a

00:13:11.100 specific goal.

00:13:12.240 Right.

00:13:13.220 And I think the biggest thing that people can learn from this is the whole time, you

00:13:17.200 know, my mind was trying to tell me that, well, you don't really need to maybe hit that

00:13:22.700 exact goal.

00:13:23.500 Right.

00:13:23.780 Like when things got tough, it was, well, maybe you don't have to do it in 24 hours.

00:13:28.200 Cause if you slow down a little bit, you could definitely cover the distance.

00:13:31.420 Right.

00:13:32.180 Um, or, you know, well, no one else knows that you're really running a hundred.

00:13:36.300 So you could just, you know, stop at 50 and, you know, it'd be a good run and go out with

00:13:40.400 friends and do whatever you want.

00:13:42.000 And so the whole time it's your brain or my brain, at least was looking for reasons and

00:13:47.300 justifications to just let off the gas.

00:13:49.980 Right.

00:13:50.380 And once again, that's what I like about running specifically is because, you know,

00:13:54.740 if you let off the gas, you stop, right?

00:13:56.740 Like there's no momentum of a wheel.

00:13:58.340 There's no team to pick you up.

00:14:00.120 Right.

00:14:00.360 Like if you let off the gas, it's between you and yourself.

00:14:03.100 Cause nobody else knows how you feel in that moment.

00:14:05.620 And for me, it was that constant battle of like every step of like, I'm going to run

00:14:10.380 my pace.

00:14:11.000 I'm going to run my pace.

00:14:12.300 I'm going to stick to my game plan.

00:14:13.620 I can't worry about, you know, what's at mile 60.

00:14:16.540 I'm still on mile seven and it's dark and it's cold.

00:14:19.340 And we're going to figure this thing out.

00:14:20.700 Right.

00:14:21.520 And focused on running like that mile.

00:14:23.860 And then it became running that straight away.

00:14:26.700 And then it became just run to that little crack in the fricking sidewalk or whatever

00:14:31.100 and make a left-hand turn, you know?

00:14:33.700 So whatever I had to do, because like you're right, it was up, it was down, it was all

00:14:37.360 around.

00:14:38.080 And then I can tell you the last 10, it was just pure suck.

00:14:41.600 There was no more momentum.

00:14:42.740 Every fucking step.

00:14:43.520 Yeah.

00:14:43.760 It, it fucking hurt.

00:14:45.100 Yeah.

00:14:46.020 Dude.

00:14:46.620 So you guys notice he's taught what he's talking about.

00:14:49.100 There is your bitch voice and your boss voice. 1.00

00:14:50.840 Okay.

00:14:51.080 We talk about this a lot in the program, you know, these conversations happen to us and

00:14:56.820 we're going to get into 75 hard, but I just want to, you know, these conversations happen

00:15:01.440 to us when we're doing anything that's difficult physically.

00:15:05.000 Okay.

00:15:05.400 And this is what gives us the opportunity to grow mentally.

00:15:10.080 All right.

00:15:10.660 These are why these things are so intertwined.

00:15:12.620 And a lot of people think the 75 hard is a physique transformation challenge or some shit

00:15:17.220 when in reality it's designed to get you as uncomfortable as you fucking can so that you 0.90

00:15:22.000 can take control.

00:15:22.940 First of all, become aware of the conversations like you're talking about, but also be able

00:15:27.180 to navigate them.

00:15:28.420 Yeah.

00:15:28.880 Right.

00:15:29.100 Because the reason that most people end up in a place they don't want to be is because

00:15:33.320 in that conversation that Will's describing where it's like, oh, well I could run a 50

00:15:39.660 and people will still celebrate.

00:15:41.260 It's good enough.

00:15:42.100 That's what most people do with their lives.

00:15:44.060 Okay.

00:15:44.460 So they set out to have a hundred miler and they get to 50 and you're like, oh, that's,

00:15:49.120 that's okay.

00:15:49.600 And, and they let those voices literally create a reality for them in the physical world.

00:15:57.280 That wasn't what their intent was because they let themselves be tricked, uh, you know,

00:16:02.100 by the silver tongue of our own selves.

00:16:03.820 Right.

00:16:04.200 Which is the best one for us.

00:16:05.500 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:06.240 We know exactly what we like.

00:16:07.380 That's what we want to hear.

00:16:08.240 That's right.

00:16:08.660 You know, and, uh, that's why that's so important to become aware of these, of these conversations,

00:16:13.540 bro.

00:16:14.040 I mean, like we could stop the podcast in 16 minutes and I think people get some good value

00:16:18.600 out of that, uh, but you know, this is a 75 hard deal and it's important to know that

00:16:23.700 you started 75 hard after this.

00:16:25.820 Correct.

00:16:26.320 Right.

00:16:26.640 So he had already, I mean, there's nobody in the world that would argue that that's not

00:16:31.440 one of the mentally toughest things they've ever fucking heard of.

00:16:34.640 Okay.

00:16:35.480 Um, and then he's going to do 75 hard.

00:16:38.400 So I'm really interested to hear what you're going to have to say about it.

00:16:40.880 Yeah.

00:16:41.240 Uh, being someone who I know for sure is already a pretty mentally determined human.

00:16:46.940 Um, tell, before we get into this, what, what do you do here at first form?

00:16:52.720 Yeah.

00:16:52.920 So, uh, I'm the director of education.

00:16:54.500 So oversee any of our content on the website, emails, blogs, uh, you know, through our Legion

00:16:59.480 air program really help organize all that and make sure that it's communicated effectively.

00:17:03.500 So people can actually take the education and go out and apply it.

00:17:06.680 Cause otherwise, like if they don't know what to do and how to do it and why to do it,

00:17:09.500 well, they're most likely not going to do it.

00:17:11.120 And as a former fat kid myself, I understand that, you know?

00:17:14.000 Um, so that's really what my role is to make sure that that message, uh, is easy to apply

00:17:18.840 in real life scenarios.

00:17:20.180 And so guys, what he does a lot of his time is he spends a lot of his time coaching people

00:17:26.280 to get the most out of them.

00:17:28.780 Okay.

00:17:29.220 So this is someone who, first of all, he's already mentally tough.

00:17:33.020 Okay.

00:17:33.500 Second of all, he spends his, his career coaching humans to, to get past these sorts of things.

00:17:42.080 So this isn't just some like regular dude who, who we pull in off the street that did

00:17:47.740 75 hard.

00:17:48.460 This is a guy who literally coaches people on the concepts that you learn through 75 hard

00:17:53.700 literally every day to produce results for them.

00:17:56.620 Okay.

00:17:57.020 So what made you want to get after this?

00:17:59.320 Cause like out of all the people that I know, and this is honest, like out of all the people

00:18:04.240 I know that need this program, you're probably the least, like you would be the last person

00:18:10.360 I would think like, Hey man, we'll really needs 75 hard.

00:18:13.680 Like you have already developed, uh, you know, over the course of time, you know, tremendous,

00:18:21.520 tremendously effective habits, or you wouldn't be where you are in the world.

00:18:25.700 Right.

00:18:26.100 Right.

00:18:26.840 Um, and by the way, he, he's very young guys.

00:18:29.040 This is a young man.

00:18:29.860 This isn't like a 40 year old dude.

00:18:31.880 How old are you?

00:18:32.460 30.

00:18:32.860 Yeah.

00:18:33.040 He's 30.

00:18:33.840 So, um, he's accomplished a lot in a very short amount of time.

00:18:37.700 So, so you decided to do it.

00:18:40.500 Like why?

00:18:41.500 I, it wasn't just to like make me feel good.

00:18:44.460 I know that.

00:18:45.280 Right.

00:18:45.680 Like, what were you just trying to see if I knew what I was talking about or what?

00:18:48.400 No, no.

00:18:49.160 I, uh, I think that's the reason why I did it because one, I got tired of people saying,

00:18:53.940 Oh, well, you know, yeah, you don't need to do it.

00:18:56.840 And, you know, then it, it started weighing on me.

00:18:59.420 And like, once it clicked in my brain that I was being hypocritical almost of like, once

00:19:04.920 again, talking about, Hey, you know, go out and push yourself and do better.

00:19:08.680 And even when you think you're doing well, you could probably audit your intent and do

00:19:12.940 things even better.

00:19:13.980 And how can you improve?

00:19:15.480 And so I was like, well, shit, Will, like you're a fucking hypocrite.

00:19:19.140 If you don't do this, right?

00:19:20.540 Like this program has changed so many lives and I've seen it and I've, you know, people

00:19:24.420 on the team, like everybody talks about it and yet I hadn't done it.

00:19:28.060 And it's like, well, who am I to think I'm too good to get fucking better on this?

00:19:31.340 So literally like two days later, right after summer smash, I was like, cause that's what

00:19:35.620 it was.

00:19:35.880 Everyone at summer smash coming up to me talking about the a hundred miles and, you know, or

00:19:39.060 75 hard.

00:19:39.760 And then they would say, but you don't have to do it.

00:19:41.400 Yeah.

00:19:41.780 And it just, it fucking ate at me.

00:19:43.360 And I was like, no, if I'm going to live by our core values and I'm going to be a man of

00:19:46.860 my word, like I got to do it.

00:19:48.200 Yeah.

00:19:48.580 No option.

00:19:49.240 So that's awesome.

00:19:49.960 Started.

00:19:50.740 That's awesome, man.

00:19:51.600 So yeah, and by the way, I, you know, I understand that no matter where you are, you can get

00:19:57.900 more out of yourself.

00:19:58.820 I mean, that's like, I hope you guys understand what he said.

00:20:02.920 Cause like what he said really is sort of the whole purpose of our existence when it comes

00:20:07.580 to our own development, because what he's talking about is setting the standard.

00:20:13.040 You know, people talk about like, oh dude, you know, you got to fulfill your potential.

00:20:17.920 Well, your potential, your potential is never something that can actually be fulfilled.

00:20:21.840 You can't ever fulfill your potential because it's on a sliding scale.

00:20:25.480 And the harder you work, the harder you push yourself, what happens is your standard raises

00:20:30.640 and gets to a new point.

00:20:31.980 All right.

00:20:32.500 And that's, you think, okay, I'm at the limits of my potential.

00:20:35.040 Well, what you just learned created a whole new level of skillset behind that standard.

00:20:39.960 All right.

00:20:40.480 And then that new skillset pushes you past that standard.

00:20:43.680 And so what we live in is a, is a reality in which as a human, you can consistently expand

00:20:51.880 your own potential by pushing yourself to your limit over and over and over again.

00:20:56.740 All right.

00:20:57.420 And this is how you see people who let's say in business, uh, you have two very different,

00:21:04.060 distinct type of business people.

00:21:05.500 You have people who make it once and maybe fall off, or you have people to just continue

00:21:11.160 to grow, continue to grow, continue to grow or in careers or in relationships or in fitness,

00:21:17.160 people either kind of peak and then fall off or they continue to progress.

00:21:22.220 And it's the people that continue to progress that are actually showing you what potential

00:21:26.800 really is all about.

00:21:28.180 And so when you think about what you're capable of, you may only be able to capable of running

00:21:34.060 two miles today, but that two miles, once you hit it, now you realize it wasn't that

00:21:38.920 big of a deal allows you to get to the three or in that three allows you to get to six.

00:21:42.660 And then you get to a place where it's a hundred or whatever you decided it is.

00:21:46.200 Right.

00:21:46.460 And when you get to that point where it's, and this is in all areas where it's whatever

00:21:50.560 you decide the end is, that's where you become powerful, right?

00:21:55.180 Like how, like I was asked yesterday, what's the finish line for you?

00:21:58.960 I don't know.

00:21:59.680 Whatever I decided to be.

00:22:00.860 Yeah.

00:22:01.140 That's powerful.

00:22:02.060 You know what I mean?

00:22:02.820 And that comes with time and it comes with consistently committing yourself to pushing

00:22:07.680 yourself to a point of extreme discomfort, learning the strengths and gaining the skills

00:22:13.560 that you would gain from that.

00:22:14.580 And then going at it over again and over again and over again.

00:22:17.460 Um, and I would just say the, I think where a lot of people mess that up is they compartmentalize

00:22:22.780 exactly what you're talking about for one area of their life.

00:22:26.100 And for example, they'll do that in the gym, right?

00:22:28.860 Like when it comes to lifting weights, that's how you physically get stronger is pushing

00:22:32.780 your muscle and pushing your body.

00:22:34.280 And then you add a little bit more and you add a little bit more and you add a little

00:22:37.540 bit more, but they don't take that same concept and apply it to their life, right?

00:22:42.240 To their job, to their relationship, to whatever it is, to their standard of keeping their

00:22:46.900 fucking car clean. 0.84

00:22:47.760 Like they don't do that.

00:22:49.300 They just, Oh, well, I'm super disciplined here.

00:22:51.520 I push myself here.

00:22:53.200 Yeah.

00:22:53.420 But if you're talking about building your life, it's more than just lifting weights

00:22:56.860 in the gym.

00:22:57.540 And so, you know, that's where I think a lot of people, they, they compartmentalize that

00:23:01.060 skill and they don't let it transfer to other areas of their life.

00:23:04.040 Totally dude.

00:23:04.620 And, and, and I think my personal opinion is I think that comes from not being aware of

00:23:09.200 social norms.

00:23:10.060 I think that becomes of not being aware of, uh, the dynamic nature of the human existence,

00:23:17.600 right?

00:23:18.040 Like there's a whole lot of shit that we do.

00:23:19.920 Yeah.

00:23:20.200 Like we've got a bunch of areas in our lives that need to be addressed.

00:23:24.020 And then, and, and the more discipline that we have, the more, more, uh, ability that

00:23:29.060 we have to control our external existence, meaning all the shit that goes on outside of,

00:23:35.520 of what we have going on, the stronger and more effective we become on whatever path we

00:23:40.860 choose.

00:23:41.740 And so, you know, I mean, bro, it's hard for me to ask you questions about this because

00:23:48.160 like, I, I don't feel like this shit was that hard for you.

00:23:51.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:52.660 Like you're already a good person who lives by this standard and this is like a unique

00:23:58.680 way.

00:23:59.140 I've never talked to anybody like you that's done this.

00:24:01.220 Right.

00:24:01.520 So, I mean, tell me about it, bro.

00:24:03.240 Yeah.

00:24:03.440 So, I mean, going into it, uh, you know, my biggest concern or fear was, you know, once

00:24:08.400 again, living up to my standard of, you know, what's going to make me proud when I get through

00:24:13.800 this, right?

00:24:14.500 Like when I look at myself at the end of the day, if I can say I executed on all of those

00:24:18.760 tasks with the utmost intent and I did my very best with it, right?

00:24:21.860 Every single day, every single day.

00:24:24.660 Um, and so in that, you know, that puts that pressure on yourself, right?

00:24:27.900 That makes you hold yourself accountable.

00:24:29.940 And I mean, you can, you know, see it in one, my productivity at work during that time, but

00:24:33.920 then also the physical side of things.

00:24:35.340 It's like, it made me dig deeper than I was already digging.

00:24:40.200 Right.

00:24:40.820 Um, and it made me like, you don't just miss a day of like your reading, right?

00:24:45.080 Or you don't just miss a day of like your eating.

00:24:47.400 Like, I mean, it, it physically and mentally just made me push myself harder.

00:24:51.520 And so while going in, it was like, oh yeah, I do these things.

00:24:55.780 But when you truly try to absolutely squeeze everything out of it, like it was awesome.

00:25:01.400 And it was challenging, you know?

00:25:03.020 Um, and I'm very thankful I did.

00:25:04.940 And I'll tell you, you know, phase one is straight up kicking my ass in a whole new way.

00:25:08.120 Like that's a, that's a whole nother animal.

00:25:09.580 Um, but it, it just taught me a lot that even though I was doing good and by most people's

00:25:15.940 standards, I was doing great, right?

00:25:18.880 I could still do better.

00:25:20.060 And I was still feeding myself shit, right?

00:25:22.620 You know, both what I was eating, you know, letting some things slide.

00:25:25.740 Not that it's the end of the world, but if I really want to be my best, like, okay, well,

00:25:28.980 I now know exactly what I can do to make myself better.

00:25:32.260 Right.

00:25:32.860 Um, and same thing mentally, like I would, you know, feed myself some shit every now and again.

00:25:36.380 And like, all right, that's part of human nature.

00:25:38.460 But the purpose of the program is to find those things and call them out and, uh, and

00:25:42.660 eliminate, or at least make them less and less.

00:25:44.700 So once again, you can keep working towards a better version of yourself.

00:25:48.460 And while, you know, I maybe might've not had as much of a drastic change mentally, as

00:25:54.480 far as like, you know, I'd had no self-discipline to like, Hey, I'm, I'm doing pretty fucking

00:25:58.380 good.

00:25:58.740 Yeah.

00:25:59.220 It still was incremental change every single day that by the end of 75 days, I was like,

00:26:05.140 fuck man.

00:26:05.900 You're turned up.

00:26:06.460 Yeah.

00:26:06.720 I'm the best version of myself that I've ever been to this point, like literally on

00:26:10.940 that day.

00:26:11.540 Exactly.

00:26:11.940 Yeah, bro.

00:26:12.340 That's one of the most powerful feelings.

00:26:14.080 A lot of people ask me, first of all, that was awesome.

00:26:16.360 But a lot of people always ask me, they're like, why do you always do it?

00:26:19.960 Because dude, you find yourself in this place, at least for me, you know, where I have never

00:26:26.760 been.

00:26:27.560 Right.

00:26:28.000 So like, I like right now it's very hard for me mentally because I'm injured.

00:26:31.900 Right.

00:26:32.240 And I'm not as good as I was before I was injured physically.

00:26:35.860 Right.

00:26:36.520 And it's fucking pissing me off, bro.

00:26:38.840 Like Matt, like, like making me so angry that it's like, I'm, I'm actually like pissed

00:26:45.500 off, like legitimately.

00:26:47.680 And we're in the past, you know, 2018 or 2017, Andy.

00:26:54.000 Uh, and you know, that dude too.

00:26:56.400 Oh yeah.

00:26:57.280 Would have just said, fuck it.

00:26:58.480 You know, I'm going to go, I'm taking this time off.

00:27:00.840 I can't train.

00:27:01.880 And I would have gained 30 pounds.

00:27:03.180 We'd be at Billy G's.

00:27:04.260 Oh, fucking right.

00:27:05.000 We were open to close.

00:27:06.540 Hey, you know what?

00:27:07.520 We're due for that.

00:27:08.740 Hey, we're due for one of those.

00:27:10.120 Hey, I'm in.

00:27:10.720 Like, you know, I'm not giving up.

00:27:12.880 I'm not giving up on that street life.

00:27:14.480 Hey, I get it.

00:27:15.480 I get it anytime.

00:27:17.020 Look, dude.

00:27:17.820 Uh, you know, but man, you know, that, that feeling of knowing.

00:27:23.340 And I posted this a couple of times on my story.

00:27:25.360 I'm like, dude, today, like today, I've never been better than this in my entire life.

00:27:31.940 Like, that's a fucking powerful feeling, bro.

00:27:34.720 Yeah.

00:27:35.060 That's a powerful feeling, you know, and you get addicted to it.

00:27:38.680 You get into that zone where it's like, you're chasing that feeling.

00:27:41.320 Yeah.

00:27:41.880 And you know, I, I don't, you don't get that without going all in on the intent, like what

00:27:48.460 you're talking about.

00:27:49.160 Right.

00:27:49.440 You know what I'm saying?

00:27:50.380 Right.

00:27:50.560 And I feel like a lot of people, you know, right now they, they think it's an accomplishment

00:27:55.580 just to get through this 75 hard say, Oh, I got through it.

00:27:58.900 But like, dude, to really unlock the magic about it.

00:28:01.700 Like, this is why I stopped on my last one because I wasn't doing it as respect.

00:28:05.820 Right.

00:28:06.400 I, I can't stress enough.

00:28:09.360 And I want you to talk about this a little bit, how important it is, what you said about

00:28:13.740 intent on all the tasks throughout the day.

00:28:16.840 So, you know, cause I know you caught yourself wanting to slip.

00:28:21.140 Oh yeah.

00:28:21.540 And like, tell me about those things.

00:28:23.160 Yeah.

00:28:23.440 Yeah.

00:28:23.640 Yeah.

00:28:23.820 So, um, you know, one of the things that I, you know, post a lot about and talk a lot

00:28:27.500 about is, you know, one good decision at a time.

00:28:29.720 Right.

00:28:30.060 And so to monitor, you know, an audit by a tent going through it, you know, I really do.

00:28:34.560 I focus on like, what is in front of me and, you know, and then when I'm done with

00:28:39.640 that, okay, is that something that's up to my standard?

00:28:42.800 Am I proud of the result that I drove on that?

00:28:44.940 Right.

00:28:45.080 And that can be a conversation that can be a workout that can be whatever.

00:28:48.160 And that's the only way that I know how to like truly hold myself accountable in each

00:28:52.520 and every one of those actions.

00:28:53.580 And so, you know, when it's like, all right, workout number one, all right, we're going

00:28:56.920 to set the phone aside.

00:28:57.860 Like I, you know, and that was a habit that I broke because I didn't realize how much time

00:29:01.560 I was kind of, you know, killing on my phone in between sets.

00:29:03.700 Right.

00:29:03.980 Or whatever the case may be.

00:29:05.240 And it's like, all right, when I'm done with this, I don't want to have to fucking redo

00:29:08.760 this.

00:29:09.100 Right.

00:29:09.680 Because there were a couple of workouts that I got done with like my outdoor session.

00:29:12.600 And it's like, yeah, I rode the bike, but like, it didn't sit well with me.

00:29:18.880 So we're going to do it again, you know?

00:29:21.320 And it's like, all right.

00:29:22.580 So wait, so wait, so wait.

00:29:24.180 So even in the program, I want you to clarify this for people.

00:29:27.320 When you felt like you didn't get the full, like you didn't do the workout, you did it

00:29:32.800 without, without intent.

00:29:34.000 You did the workout again.

00:29:35.160 Fuck yeah.

00:29:36.460 You know?

00:29:37.040 And one time I changed the workout because I was like, well, I'm kind of half-assed that.

00:29:40.180 So let me go lift.

00:29:41.260 Let me go do something that like, all right, I'm more motivated to do and I could attack

00:29:45.580 it.

00:29:45.780 Right.

00:29:46.060 And it's like, all right, I'm fucking doing the program the right way is about.

00:29:49.980 You know, I just want you guys listening to understand that.

00:29:52.160 Now I'm not saying that you all got to go do fucking extra workouts and shit.

00:29:56.260 What I'm saying is you want to become aware of the intent that you're putting in to every

00:30:01.060 single task, right?

00:30:02.400 And don't become a box checker. 0.96

00:30:04.320 Right.

00:30:04.460 And there's purpose behind, you know, those workouts, right?

00:30:07.620 Like, especially because I was training for a CrossFit competition and things like that.

00:30:10.880 So it's like, okay, on some of those days, it's gymnastic work, right?

00:30:14.620 Where your heart rate is down a little bit more, but you're practicing, you know, handstand

00:30:18.040 walks up and down the turf and you're doing things that's not like, oh, I'm just going

00:30:21.660 to go run sprints, right?

00:30:22.880 So the intensity is different.

00:30:24.860 But the purpose of that workout is different.

00:30:26.900 So it's, you know, really when I look at those things, am I, am I fulfilling the purpose of

00:30:31.760 it to the standard that I am comfortable with to say, without a doubt, I made myself proud

00:30:37.320 and I did it the right way.

00:30:38.340 And so like, that's, that's really how I kind of monitor all those things.

00:30:41.420 Cause like you said, it doesn't mean every workout you got to, you know, fricking go run

00:30:44.700 through a wall, right?

00:30:46.120 What's the purpose, right?

00:30:47.760 And making sure that you are meeting the purpose with the standard that you have set for yourself.

00:30:52.060 Okay.

00:30:52.780 And that you can honestly look yourself in a face and say, Hey, I'm proud.

00:30:55.920 I fulfilled that.

00:30:57.040 I did that.

00:30:57.800 Cool.

00:30:58.060 Let's move on to the next one.

00:30:59.240 That's badass, man.

00:31:00.660 So dude, what was the hardest part of the program you think?

00:31:04.840 For me, it's going to sound really dumb.

00:31:06.860 Uh, well, maybe not.

00:31:07.640 I don't know.

00:31:08.060 It was the giving up alcohol, right?

00:31:10.180 And I don't even drink a whole lot.

00:31:11.520 Um, but it's, it's having those beers, you know, when I feel obligated from friends because

00:31:18.320 they want to drink.

00:31:19.260 That was one thing that really tripped me up was, you know, anytime my brother was in

00:31:22.900 town, Hey, I know what we're doing.

00:31:24.080 We're going to go, we're going to go drink some beers.

00:31:25.580 We're going to get drunk.

00:31:26.300 Okay.

00:31:26.500 It's going to be great.

00:31:27.360 Have a lot of fun.

00:31:28.320 Um, or Hey, you know, someone, you know, is celebrating whatever.

00:31:32.000 And it's like, Oh, I'll just have one.

00:31:33.400 Or I always wanted to be the guy that was like, you know, the cool kid.

00:31:38.220 I think it goes back to that and be the friend that was like always in.

00:31:41.700 Um, so I would compromise on that.

00:31:43.640 Like that was one thing that I would always just say, all right, cool.

00:31:46.860 Well, if you're drinking, I'm drinking.

00:31:48.080 I can't let you drink alone.

00:31:49.040 Yeah.

00:31:49.180 Yeah.

00:31:49.340 Yeah.

00:31:49.500 You know, and really a point.

00:31:52.100 Yeah.

00:31:52.360 That's a valid point.

00:31:53.640 But it's like, when you look at like, okay, but is that really what I want to do?

00:31:57.320 Right.

00:31:57.720 Is that really an alignment?

00:31:59.140 Whether it's, you know, for my goals serving what I'm doing right now.

00:32:02.020 Exactly.

00:32:02.480 Yeah.

00:32:02.640 And so learning to just say, no, I'm good and still have a fun time.

00:32:07.500 Right.

00:32:07.920 It's like, Hey, well, you don't have to like pregame and then go drink and, you know, try

00:32:11.780 to open up a little.

00:32:12.640 It's like, yeah, dude, just be yourself.

00:32:15.080 Right.

00:32:15.600 Um, and so for me, that was a really big, you know, point, um, that I learned just once

00:32:20.840 again, the power to say no in that way.

00:32:22.560 So now, dude, you, you're, you're no stranger to dieting or doing exercise in any way, but like

00:32:29.500 tell me, talk a little bit about how 75 heart affected your relationship, uh, with food

00:32:36.140 because you're, you're a food guy.

00:32:37.700 Right.

00:32:37.960 Like me.

00:32:38.540 Oh yeah.

00:32:38.920 We like food.

00:32:39.580 Oh yeah.

00:32:40.100 And we also do like to have beers and have a good time.

00:32:43.880 Did it change your relationship or how did it affect your relationship with like, you

00:32:47.900 know, like you kind of touched on your last question, like going out and having a good

00:32:52.480 time and socializing and like your relationship with food or alcohol or how you view those things

00:32:57.480 now.

00:32:58.440 Yeah.

00:32:58.800 I would say, uh, it improved it.

00:33:00.300 Right.

00:33:00.600 Because back to the whole purpose.

00:33:01.980 And like you said, does it serve you?

00:33:04.120 Right.

00:33:04.660 Uh, because I'm not going to be the guy that never drinks again, or I'm not going to be

00:33:08.100 the guy that never has a burger and fries again.

00:33:09.780 Right.

00:33:10.060 Like that ain't gonna fucking happen.

00:33:11.340 Um, but understanding that like, there's a lot of times that I just would give into that

00:33:16.240 just because it was what society thought we should do.

00:33:19.420 We celebrate with food.

00:33:20.460 We celebrate with drinks.

00:33:21.340 We celebrate with whatever.

00:33:23.340 And, you know, at times in a place, I think that that's very beneficial.

00:33:25.900 And that's what I really learned was like, and it actually made those times after 75

00:33:30.720 hard, more enjoyable because it was like, Hey, no, I really want to go out with the guys.

00:33:36.000 Like it was down in Florida.

00:33:37.340 We had just done the CrossFit event.

00:33:38.720 We just, you know, worked in the heat all day.

00:33:40.340 We just did all this.

00:33:41.280 And it's like going out with the guys and the girls, uh, on the team and just having

00:33:45.220 some drinks, having some food, not worrying about tracking every little thing, but just

00:33:49.860 living in the moment and having the purpose of like, Hey, I'm going to have a good night

00:33:53.960 with my friends after a hard day of work.

00:33:55.680 And then the next morning woke up, felt great about it.

00:33:57.900 Got right back on eating, you know, my, you know, pretty typical clean, you know, program

00:34:01.660 and rock and roll.

00:34:02.820 Yeah.

00:34:03.120 And dude, the best part about that is you don't feel fucking guilty about it at all.

00:34:07.200 And there's no like negotiating to get to the point to hang out with your fucking friends.

00:34:12.040 Right.

00:34:12.260 Like, like, dude, you know, when you're overweight and you know, you're not doing the shit that

00:34:16.400 you should be doing, uh, and you've been being a shit bag. 0.90

00:34:19.300 And it's real easy to just say, Oh, you know, you tell yourself, Oh dude, you know, I'm going

00:34:23.420 to start on Monday.

00:34:24.740 Right.

00:34:25.220 That's what we all say.

00:34:26.160 And then they justify this night out of gluttony and drinking and having, you know, and then

00:34:32.720 they do that same thing so far that they could find themselves a million miles from where

00:34:36.840 they actually want to be.

00:34:37.940 Oh yeah.

00:34:38.200 And so, you know, I think that's such an important point to talk about because I'm not changing

00:34:43.920 who I am permanently.

00:34:45.600 Right.

00:34:45.840 But what I do have to do is develop the ability so that when people set a beer in front of

00:34:50.820 me or a fucking pizza or French fries, I understand that I'm in control of these things.

00:34:56.540 They're not in control of me.

00:34:58.100 Right.

00:34:58.500 And for so long, you know, and like a lot of people probably listening, I lived where I

00:35:04.380 couldn't turn this down.

00:35:06.040 Right.

00:35:06.460 When somebody put beer in front of me or pressured me a little bit to have a good time, or, you

00:35:12.260 know, I was able to very quickly, uh, tell myself a story inside that made it okay.

00:35:18.420 And that's something that I think ultimately is what costs us our dreams.

00:35:23.320 That's why this program is so important to talk about because those little compromises,

00:35:28.340 and this is where I come up with the idea of zero compromise.

00:35:31.080 Now it also applies to how you do the program, but the zero compromise mentality is we should

00:35:36.320 not compromise our dreams.

00:35:37.600 We should not compromise what we really want for our bitch voice. 1.00

00:35:41.800 That's telling us what we want in the moment right now.

00:35:44.020 Right.

00:35:44.500 You know, and I think it's such a powerful point, uh, that people realize when they complete

00:35:49.080 this program, the right way is that, holy shit, I'm actually in control of a whole lot

00:35:53.500 more than what I thought I was.

00:35:55.160 And now how do you play the game then?

00:35:58.160 Right.

00:35:58.440 Like if you're playing, um, if you're playing checkers and you can only see the four squares,

00:36:04.380 you know, you, you have limited moves you can make, but once you see the whole board and

00:36:09.640 you can see how far you could actually go, it opens up a whole different existence for

00:36:14.140 people, you know?

00:36:15.200 And that's why, this is why I'll never go away from living this way because it continues

00:36:20.520 to compound.

00:36:21.380 It continues to grow.

00:36:22.840 Every single time I complete one of these phases or a program, I gain something new.

00:36:27.560 It's almost, it's weird, dude.

00:36:28.940 It's like Thanos.

00:36:29.800 Like you get a new stone or something, you know, but like, I don't know.

00:36:34.300 Man, I, I just, it's really cool to sit here and, and, and hear you, you know, talk about

00:36:39.540 like, what, what were the biggest takeaways for like overall, like, where do you think

00:36:44.120 the biggest gains were made in your, uh, you know, the skillsets that this program builds,

00:36:50.080 right?

00:36:50.320 Like if you take someone who has basically living how we have all lived at one point and

00:36:55.600 you put them through this program, they're going to have, you know, grit, they're going

00:36:58.300 to have, uh, you know, confidence.

00:37:00.960 They're going to have self-belief.

00:37:02.240 They're going to have a discipline.

00:37:04.060 They're going to have all of these different qualities, sort of like you would see in Madden,

00:37:08.580 right?

00:37:08.820 Like we're at speed 99 strength, 99.

00:37:11.220 Like if you start thinking of all those qualities that you gained during 75 hard, that make up

00:37:16.160 the concept of mental toughness, um, where do you think you gain the most?

00:37:21.060 Yeah.

00:37:21.220 So I would say, uh, cause most people, right.

00:37:24.240 They give in.

00:37:24.880 So it's the ability to say no, right?

00:37:27.680 Like learning that skill, I think is something that has helped a tremendous amount of people.

00:37:32.100 Right.

00:37:32.460 And even once again, with myself, like that was one of the things, the ability.

00:37:35.240 So that's something that you, that you strengthened during a program that has, you've seen reflected

00:37:39.500 in real life.

00:37:40.480 Yes.

00:37:40.920 Yeah.

00:37:41.100 Even more so.

00:37:41.820 And, you know, by doing that, right.

00:37:43.540 Like that's very, like, that's a real life thing.

00:37:45.720 Okay.

00:37:45.980 Cause when you talk about, you know, grit and mental toughness and things, it's like, okay,

00:37:49.500 well, how do you, what does that look like in day to day?

00:37:51.780 Right.

00:37:52.280 And so the ability to say no to things that aren't in alignment with your goals or what

00:37:56.140 you want to do, I think is one of the most practical things that people, you know, get

00:37:59.940 out of it.

00:38:00.680 Um, and then also, uh, prioritization, right.

00:38:04.120 And literally, cause otherwise you're not going to get things done.

00:38:06.720 Right.

00:38:06.980 Right.

00:38:07.260 And then, cause if you, you know, if you, you know, fuck around and you mess up your 0.90

00:38:10.680 schedule or whatever, then you're up real late.

00:38:12.680 Well, then the next day is harder.

00:38:13.920 And then you do that again.

00:38:15.020 And the next day is harder.

00:38:16.160 Well, you're really just running down your own little like demise here of like, okay, you're doing

00:38:20.500 it to yourself.

00:38:21.060 So it makes you have to have, once again, you know, a conversation with yourself and

00:38:25.680 figure out what do you want?

00:38:26.980 Otherwise, if you're doing it right, you won't finish it.

00:38:30.380 Right.

00:38:30.720 Right.

00:38:30.920 You won't get through it with the right intent.

00:38:33.040 So you have to think what's most important in my life.

00:38:35.840 Right.

00:38:36.360 What are the things that need the most amount of attention and let me do those things first.

00:38:41.640 Right.

00:38:41.920 Let me get those things in here. 0.95

00:38:43.480 Um, and so for me, you know, I think that once again, it helps strengthen that.

00:38:46.780 Right.

00:38:47.080 And especially going into, you know, phase one now with the additional task and

00:38:50.980 things like that.

00:38:51.500 It's like, okay, there's more on your plate and I still have to maintain everything that

00:38:55.760 I do at work.

00:38:56.520 I still have to maintain all of my relationships.

00:38:59.100 I have to, you know, still maintain all these things.

00:39:01.620 Like that was one of the standards that I hold for myself.

00:39:04.000 It's not, oh, I do this and I let other things slip.

00:39:06.740 Like, no, fuck that.

00:39:07.580 Like the purpose is to add these things in and go through it, um, and still maintain everything

00:39:13.140 else in your life.

00:39:13.920 Right.

00:39:14.500 Uh, because no one else asked you to do it.

00:39:16.500 So if you're bitching and moaning and complaining and like, you know, fuck off, like you're doing

00:39:20.280 it for yourself.

00:39:20.780 Right.

00:39:21.080 So like, you can't let it negatively affect other things.

00:39:23.180 So I think those two things are the most like real life skills that people can learn that

00:39:29.840 leads to the mental toughness, uh, through building that discipline to just stick to

00:39:34.880 the plan.

00:39:35.400 And then over time, you're like, all right, cool.

00:39:37.720 Like none of this other shit matters, right?

00:39:39.740 Like, or it doesn't shake you as much.

00:39:41.240 And it's, it's a process, you know, figuring that out.

00:39:44.080 Like, so that would be the top two things.

00:39:46.340 I think, dude, it's been so long since I felt like I'm hearing you talk about this.

00:39:50.780 Like it, it's good that you came on because, and it's good that I do these shows because

00:39:54.680 it, and I'm not saying this to brag, but it's been so long since I've remembered what

00:39:59.640 it felt like to feel out of control.

00:40:02.560 But like, dude, most people don't feel like they have any control.

00:40:05.560 Yeah.

00:40:05.840 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:06.360 And like, I'm like, as you're talking, I'm sitting here remembering how weak I was

00:40:11.220 back, you know, the, the Andy that existed before I started down this path.

00:40:17.880 Yeah.

00:40:17.960 Um, you know, I was that guy, I was the guy who couldn't get three or four days through

00:40:23.460 a diet program, like literally three or four days, you know what I'm saying?

00:40:26.800 And the whole time I was like arguing with myself to like, want to cheat the whole time.

00:40:33.240 Like I want to cheat on food, want to slack on the program.

00:40:36.340 Um, and that, that, that narrative of mediocrity that we advertise to ourselves over and over

00:40:45.460 and over and over again is powerful shit, man.

00:40:48.240 Just like the actual media is very powerful.

00:40:51.800 We have to be able to, to, to rebut that on demand, recognize it and, and, and defeat

00:40:59.920 it.

00:41:00.140 You know what I mean?

00:41:01.020 And that's one of the things that I love about this program is the awareness that it creates

00:41:06.240 to the conversation that we all have internally that no one really fucking talks about. 0.72

00:41:12.920 Yeah.

00:41:13.140 You know what I mean?

00:41:13.740 Like, yeah.

00:41:14.380 And I think another thing with, and why it's so great is that it's individualized based

00:41:19.060 off of exactly what you're saying, right?

00:41:20.880 Because everybody, we all start somewhere.

00:41:23.580 Like, I mean, and I think about when I'm, you know, talking about my, you know, writing

00:41:26.900 post or sharing information, like I think back to the fat insecure will, you know, and it's

00:41:31.680 like, okay, well, what do they need to know to get started?

00:41:34.260 Right.

00:41:34.500 Or where, where was will five years ago?

00:41:36.140 Right.

00:41:36.420 Or where was will two years ago?

00:41:37.840 Right.

00:41:38.080 And you know, it helps give me an idea of like, okay, I wasn't where I'm at now.

00:41:43.100 So I need to, you know, speak and think in ways that matter to that.

00:41:46.160 And my, you know, point to that is, you know, for people that are thinking about starting

00:41:50.640 the program, right.

00:41:51.380 And they might hear like, oh, well, this dude fucking crushed it and blah, blah, blah, 0.59

00:41:54.500 blah, blah.

00:41:54.780 I can't do like, no, fuck that.

00:41:56.320 Like, that would be like you never going to the gym because someone squats more than

00:42:00.080 you.

00:42:00.460 Once again, I relate it back to fitness.

00:42:01.700 Right.

00:42:02.040 Or like, that would be like you never going to that 5k with your family because you know,

00:42:06.180 someone's going to be there that ran a marathon one time.

00:42:08.880 Like it's all relative to the individual.

00:42:11.760 Yeah.

00:42:11.940 And it's like, okay, the worst thing you can do is just be a little bitch and not start. 1.00

00:42:15.480 Right.

00:42:15.700 It's like, get in the game and everybody else will support you through that process.

00:42:19.420 The people that have ran that 5k, that didn't ran the half marathon, that didn't ran the

00:42:23.120 marathon.

00:42:23.580 Like they are excited for those people to start their journey and understanding that.

00:42:28.200 Talk about that because you did this with Derek Wida.

00:42:31.060 You guys did it together.

00:42:32.180 Yeah.

00:42:32.360 Talk a little bit about that.

00:42:33.520 Like talk about how it affected like your relationships with, you know, your family,

00:42:38.480 your friends, um, the people here, you know, or even people on social media.

00:42:43.780 Talk a little bit about how it was received as you went through the program.

00:42:47.120 Because I think one of the coolest things about 75 hard is the culture that's behind

00:42:51.900 it.

00:42:52.280 Oh, fuck yeah.

00:42:52.680 Yeah.

00:42:53.220 Yeah.

00:42:53.400 Without, without, you remove the motherfuckers that pretend they did it. 0.96

00:42:56.160 Right.

00:42:56.460 But I'm talking about the people who actually have done it.

00:42:58.260 Yeah.

00:42:58.560 Yeah.

00:42:58.740 No, I mean, right off the top of the, you know, top of my head, I mean, the first word

00:43:02.180 that comes to mind is respect.

00:43:03.740 Right.

00:43:04.120 Because once again, it doesn't matter.

00:43:05.780 You know, I mean, I've built awesome relationships with people just through DMS of like, you

00:43:09.600 know, they saw me post on my calendar or they're like, oh, we're on the same day.

00:43:12.700 And I'm like, yo, we're day twins, you know, like whatever.

00:43:14.880 And, you know, but they're starting at a different spot.

00:43:17.080 You know, they might've been, you know, 300 pounds or 120 pounds, or they might've been,

00:43:21.880 you know, in this career or that career or different workout styles.

00:43:24.460 Like it didn't matter because the respect that is earned through doing that work.

00:43:28.320 Right.

00:43:28.780 And even though we're not physically together, what's so great is that, you know, through

00:43:32.780 social media as a platform and through those things, you can connect with people and you

00:43:36.760 can tell who's really doing the work and, and, and who's not.

00:43:39.660 And, you know, that respect it's, it's not, Hey man, well, I'm doing it better than you

00:43:43.700 or Hey man, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:43:44.980 It's like, it's like, bro, that workout today was one of those fucking test days, man.

00:43:48.600 You know, or, Hey, you know what?

00:43:50.240 I love that about that culture, dude.

00:43:52.420 Absolutely.

00:43:52.960 You know, and it's not a competitive culture.

00:43:54.720 No.

00:43:55.160 And bro, I'm somebody who loves competition, right?

00:43:57.140 But this is a competitive culture where you compete against yourself.

00:44:00.320 Yeah.

00:44:00.860 Yeah.

00:44:01.320 Powerful dude.

00:44:02.000 And, uh, you know, what was great, uh, you know, and even like, uh, the reading 10 pages

00:44:05.900 a day, I've always been, you know, a reader.

00:44:07.420 I mean, for the last eight years working here, no, uh, you told me to read magic of things

00:44:11.560 eight years ago.

00:44:12.640 And, uh, I've read it every year since, and I read all the time now, but, um, I just,

00:44:17.480 listen, Hey, that to my own horn to, Hey, Hey, I get it.

00:44:20.560 You know, it's worked for me guys.

00:44:23.080 Listen, you know, I'm just teasing, but, uh, this is a fucking stud.

00:44:26.140 I'm talking to you right here, man.

00:44:27.280 And, uh, you know, uh, Derek, okay.

00:44:29.580 Was someone that he hadn't read a book in years.

00:44:32.460 Right.

00:44:33.260 And so for us, you know, like, did you guys read the same books?

00:44:36.740 We didn't read the same book, but we like traded ideas.

00:44:39.680 Yeah.

00:44:39.900 Not book buddies, but like ideas on like, Hey, what book are you reading right now?

00:44:43.520 What do you like?

00:44:44.100 Like, and so we, you know, kind of flip flop some things and like, it was, it was cool,

00:44:48.020 you know?

00:44:48.440 Um, so we were able to connect on that, which, I mean, he's a great friend and we've done

00:44:51.560 a lot of cool shit over the last four years together, but we had never talked about, you

00:44:55.360 know, things like that, or even talked about, you know, uh, you know, business relationships.

00:44:59.720 I mean, like just life in general, you know, and we were able to kind of start connecting

00:45:03.980 on that.

00:45:04.340 Cause some of the workouts we did together and like, dude, when you're out there just dragging

00:45:07.860 a sled around doing, you know, we had stupid shit Sundays, like we just came up 0.79

00:45:12.260 with just painful, dumb stuff that it's like, all right, well, what are we going to talk

00:45:15.960 about out there in the rain too?

00:45:17.820 I remember seeing you guys out there like talk about those workouts.

00:45:20.980 Yeah.

00:45:21.300 Oh, I mean, they sucked.

00:45:22.340 Um, but you know, you get done and it's like, I always feel the best.

00:45:25.180 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:25.900 Yeah.

00:45:26.120 That's the thing is like, you step out of the truck and the rain is cold and you're like,

00:45:29.980 fuck.

00:45:30.440 Yeah.

00:45:30.920 This is going to suck.

00:45:31.800 Yeah.

00:45:32.000 You start moving, you get through it.

00:45:33.680 And then you're like, like about midway through, you're like, man, we need like some motivational

00:45:37.180 music behind like a montage or some shit, you know?

00:45:39.480 You start feeling like a bad motherfucker.

00:45:41.080 Yeah.

00:45:41.300 Yeah.

00:45:41.480 And then by the end, it's like, I'm just going to stand out in the rain all day.

00:45:44.860 I don't care.

00:45:45.480 You know, pretty much.

00:45:48.320 Bro, we always talk DJ and I, I always tell DJ, cause like, we'll go outside, you know,

00:45:52.740 he, he does cardio with me regardless of what's going on.

00:45:56.120 So like, he may not even be doing the program, but he's still out doing it.

00:45:59.380 Yeah.

00:46:00.300 And when it's cold as fuck or it's raining and shit, we'll go out and we'll both be like,

00:46:05.280 fuck.

00:46:05.760 And I'll be like, dude, give it, give us 10 minutes and 10 minutes will be great.

00:46:09.240 Yeah.

00:46:09.420 And that always is.

00:46:10.480 10 minutes later, bro.

00:46:11.840 I'm like fucking the Rocky song in my head.

00:46:14.000 Yep.

00:46:14.300 You know what I mean?

00:46:14.660 When I get, when I get done and I'm walking back up, like we walked back up to the back

00:46:18.460 of the building here.

00:46:19.060 I'm like, there ain't no motherfuckers out here doing this shit.

00:46:22.160 Like I get all cocky and shit, but dude, that's, that's what the fucking program does.

00:46:26.680 Right.

00:46:26.920 It makes you realize how fucking powerful you actually are.

00:46:30.880 Yeah.

00:46:31.200 Like in the real world, like you actually pick up your phone and look and motherfuckers are

00:46:36.980 out, you know, sip of mimosas when you're grinding hard as fuck in the rain.

00:46:41.100 Right.

00:46:41.440 Bro, there's power to that.

00:46:43.060 You know what I'm saying?

00:46:43.620 It makes us feel good.

00:46:44.820 It makes us understand that dude, we can fucking do hard shit that other people won't do.

00:46:50.100 Right.

00:46:50.580 Which actually brings up, I'm glad you said that.

00:46:52.320 It brings up the third point that in my brain, I was like, all right, I can't leave before

00:46:55.560 I bring this up.

00:46:56.220 And that is that things are never as bad as they seem, right?

00:47:00.080 Like human nature.

00:47:00.800 And I think once again, uh, how does that apply to life?

00:47:03.200 Right.

00:47:03.560 Or how does that apply to your job?

00:47:04.800 Right.

00:47:05.100 Like you might get this project and you're like, oh fuck, that's going to suck.

00:47:08.500 Right.

00:47:08.760 Or, oh man, I don't know how I'm going to do that.

00:47:10.420 So people don't take action.

00:47:11.900 Right.

00:47:12.420 But once you get started on it, right, it becomes easier every fricking time.

00:47:17.720 Right.

00:47:18.020 And then when you get done, that sense of confidence is instilled in you because you did the shit that

00:47:22.720 you know that you didn't want to do.

00:47:24.300 Right.

00:47:24.520 And so it's like, I think the workouts are a great example of that, of if you can take

00:47:28.620 once again, not just compartmentalize that for fitness, but move that into other areas

00:47:32.740 of life, having that conversation with the friend or having, you know, whatever it is,

00:47:37.000 it's like, that is what is going to help build that mindset and the grit and, and all those

00:47:42.500 things in the long-term success of like, dude, it's never as bad as you think.

00:47:46.140 So get started.

00:47:46.820 And, you know, it takes me back to something that my dad taught me from a very young age was,

00:47:50.860 you know, he always said, how bad could it be?

00:47:52.620 Right.

00:47:52.880 And he, and with that, it was like, oh, well, you know, I don't know, like, I guess it could

00:47:56.460 be pretty fucking bad, but we're going to find out, you know, and it always just like 0.76

00:48:00.460 gave me a little sense of like, well, eh, let's see.

00:48:03.760 Right.

00:48:04.100 Yeah.

00:48:04.440 And that re like it, you know, re-triggered in my brain going through some of those things

00:48:08.800 where it's like, fuck man, I don't want to do this.

00:48:10.840 And then you get, you know, started or whatever, the momentum going, it's easier.

00:48:15.040 You finish it.

00:48:15.640 You feel better.

00:48:16.500 And then just even that little moment of like, Hey, you know what?

00:48:19.040 I didn't want to do it, but I did it.

00:48:20.520 To me, that's what helps build that confidence that then you take to the next one.

00:48:24.300 Yeah.

00:48:24.480 You know, it's not over celebrating or, you know, Brad, it's just like, that's a conversation

00:48:28.360 with you and yourself in that moment builds confidence.

00:48:31.460 And then the next time, and then the next time it's just simply keeping, you know, your

00:48:35.000 word to yourself.

00:48:35.840 So, you know, it's so weird as you're sitting here thinking, I'm just sitting here over

00:48:38.680 here thinking about this whole idea of confidence.

00:48:40.860 What's so weird about it and ironic about the whole idea is like you, it's not even

00:48:46.840 like we talk about it in terms of building confidence, but it's not really even building

00:48:50.860 confidence.

00:48:51.700 It's exposing confidence because what it's really doing, like you're capable of this shit

00:48:56.780 right now.

00:48:57.600 You just don't think you're capable of this shit right now.

00:49:00.040 And so it's so weird to think about how fucking all these concepts, how, how strange they

00:49:08.900 really are.

00:49:09.460 Because when you really think about confidence, think about building it, you, you didn't change

00:49:14.720 anything.

00:49:15.520 Nothing actually changed.

00:49:17.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:17.500 When you went from one mile to 1.5 miles or two miles or three miles, nothing changed

00:49:22.060 other than the internal conversation that you're having with yourself and a little bit of muscular

00:49:26.280 endurance, maybe.

00:49:27.760 Right.

00:49:28.080 Right.

00:49:28.200 Um, and so you were always capable of that, you know?

00:49:32.220 And it's weird to think about how us humans have to go through these little processes to

00:49:37.360 pull the fucking carpet back on what we're actually capable of. 0.93

00:49:41.500 You know what I mean?

00:49:42.340 But it's, it's a process that it's the only process I like, you know, you can't do it any

00:49:48.560 other way.

00:49:49.000 But yeah, you have to like go through that slow uncovering process of what we're actually

00:49:53.600 capable of through these tests.

00:49:55.700 Right.

00:49:56.660 Um, because I could sit there and talk to someone right now and maybe it's you, you're listening

00:50:01.340 right now and convince you, you know, I could try to convince you all day of all these things

00:50:05.680 that you're capable of.

00:50:06.620 But until you actually see yourself do them and push yourself through that, you won't even

00:50:11.160 believe what I say.

00:50:12.180 Right.

00:50:12.680 You know, but, but you'll come to find out, holy shit, I was actually capable of all this

00:50:17.480 shit.

00:50:17.880 You've been doing that a long time ago.

00:50:18.940 Isn't this such a weird thing to think about?

00:50:20.540 Yeah.

00:50:20.720 Like, I don't know.

00:50:22.080 I've never thought of it as like uncovering or exposing, but.

00:50:25.320 Yeah.

00:50:25.920 Because we still have it.

00:50:27.080 Yeah.

00:50:27.220 Right.

00:50:27.400 Like we still always had it.

00:50:28.800 I don't know, man, just that shit.

00:50:31.100 It's fascinating to me to think about like the mental processes that are required for

00:50:35.360 us to come to these conclusions that were honestly true the whole entire time.

00:50:40.860 We just weren't executing on them.

00:50:42.600 You know what I mean?

00:50:43.180 Or we didn't believe that we had those qualities in us.

00:50:46.320 You know, a lot of that I could get into this whole thing.

00:50:48.620 A lot of that I think has to do with the way society presents, um, our opportunities to

00:50:54.600 us based upon who we are, where we grow up, how much money we came from, et cetera, et

00:50:59.240 cetera, et cetera.

00:50:59.760 Now it's race and all these other things, but it's interesting to think about.

00:51:03.860 Dude, um, I was going to ask you if you've done the other phases, but it, you know, you're

00:51:09.020 already on phase one.

00:51:10.020 Yep.

00:51:10.380 Uh, yeah.

00:51:11.020 So I, uh, how's that going?

00:51:12.160 What day are you on?

00:51:13.140 26.

00:51:13.740 Oh shit.

00:51:14.280 You're almost done.

00:51:14.740 So I, uh, fuck man.

00:51:16.260 One day at a time.

00:51:16.940 Yeah.

00:51:17.560 I'm getting my ass kicked.

00:51:18.780 Fucking things to grind, dude, bro.

00:51:20.860 Yeah.

00:51:21.140 And it, like, it literally started fucking beautifully, um, in the sense of like my very,

00:51:27.340 like I had said, all right, I'm going to finish this competition, you know, and then on Monday

00:51:31.140 I'm starting.

00:51:31.700 Well, of course, you know, Sunday, my flight gets delayed.

00:51:34.080 So now I got to fly out Monday.

00:51:35.280 Then it's delayed again, Monday morning.

00:51:37.100 So I'm waking up on day one of phase one, you know, trying to rearrange flights, trying

00:51:41.800 to get back here, make the meet like.

00:51:43.540 Now it's very important.

00:51:44.480 You know, he, he could have easily said, oh no, I'll just start another day.

00:51:47.420 Exactly.

00:51:48.160 Why didn't you do that?

00:51:49.100 Because that's not what the commitment to myself was.

00:51:51.140 That's right.

00:51:51.520 And I was like, well, I committed, I'm starting here.

00:51:54.000 And if I break this commitment, well, I've already fucking set myself back.

00:51:57.580 Right.

00:51:57.900 So, and once again, I thought about, well, how bad can it be?

00:52:00.640 I'm going to attack this day and just, Hey, if I get to the day, end of the day and maybe

00:52:05.500 somehow something happens and it just isn't a, well, you know what?

00:52:08.060 I gave it my best shot, but I'm not going to wake up and be like, no, I'll just start

00:52:12.300 on Tuesday.

00:52:12.860 Cause I've done that.

00:52:13.760 Fat wheel did that.

00:52:14.680 Old wheel did that.

00:52:15.520 Yeah.

00:52:15.820 I ain't going back to that.

00:52:16.720 Yeah.

00:52:17.060 So that scares the fuck out of me.

00:52:18.800 I'm with you, bro.

00:52:19.540 I was talking to honey today.

00:52:20.960 We were talking about, um, cause I'm injured.

00:52:23.480 I was falling off of my training.

00:52:25.280 Right.

00:52:25.600 Like there's only so much shit I can do.

00:52:28.640 Right.

00:52:28.860 And, um, I was talking to him and he, I'm like, bro, look, I've got, he's like, you,

00:52:34.560 you got to let it rest.

00:52:35.500 I said, look, bro, I got to do what I can fucking do.

00:52:37.160 I'm going to get fucking fat again.

00:52:38.640 He's like, he's laughing on the other.

00:52:40.060 He's like, bro, you killed that dude.

00:52:41.800 I'm like, no, the fuck I did it.

00:52:43.440 That dude's still in there.

00:52:44.800 He got to fucking feel it because I can still hear the stories, bro.

00:52:48.100 Like I can still hear the shit sometimes, you know, like, oh dude, start Monday.

00:52:52.960 It's good time to get serious.

00:52:53.860 Like I started hearing that shit.

00:52:54.980 I'm like, oh fuck.

00:52:55.960 There he is.

00:52:56.960 You know what I'm saying?

00:52:57.940 It's just weird how, you know, we have to constantly fight that person who used to be

00:53:04.180 us, but it's almost like that movie split.

00:53:07.280 All right.

00:53:08.360 Um, where you got all these different versions of yourself that like live inside of you that

00:53:13.640 like fight to manifest themselves in the physical form.

00:53:17.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:18.040 Like that fat motherfucker that used to, that you guys see that I post every once in a 0.99

00:53:21.860 while that dude's still in there because I hear his motherfucking voice sometimes, bro.

00:53:26.160 And it scares me.

00:53:27.540 I'm like, oh, I go immediately to the fucking gym, like, or do something.

00:53:31.840 Right.

00:53:32.280 Like I, my life is so much fucking better from when I was that guy, that 350 pound guy who

00:53:39.020 lied to himself about fucking everything, who, who justified every fucking thing that 0.97

00:53:44.560 was put in front of him to now where like, I know I'm in control of my outside elements

00:53:49.140 a hundred percent to the point where I don't even stress about it.

00:53:51.680 Just the removal of anxiety in your life and the removal of that powerless, hopeless feeling

00:53:59.540 that you have no control over.

00:54:01.360 Like, and I know some of you guys right now, you know what I'm talking about, bro.

00:54:04.720 You're taught like right now you're trying to get healthy and you cannot stop thinking

00:54:09.520 about the Chinese food or the pizza or the shit.

00:54:12.460 Like, bro, you have to understand that's, that's a version of yourself inside of yourself

00:54:17.680 like that wants to come to life and you have other versions in your, of yourself in there.

00:54:23.140 And one of them is that ideal self, that person who, who looks the way you want to look, who

00:54:28.560 lives the way you want to live, who has the confidence, who has the belief, who has the

00:54:33.060 grit, who has the fortitude, who is willing to come out.

00:54:37.100 If you would listen to their fucking voice and listen to what they tell you to do.

00:54:41.060 You know, that's one of the beautiful things about this program, bro, is I think it teaches

00:54:45.120 you, um, how to not only just be aware of those justifying conversations, but it also

00:54:52.500 tunes you up to listen to the one that you should listen to.

00:54:55.360 You know, I, that's been the most powerful thing for me.

00:54:58.520 And that, that shit you're talking about, those conversations of slight dude, that shit

00:55:02.460 fucking scares me.

00:55:03.420 Oh yeah.

00:55:03.680 Like it scares me.

00:55:05.140 You know, I never want to go back to that.

00:55:07.180 No, me neither.

00:55:07.940 Yeah.

00:55:08.180 Me neither.

00:55:08.540 Every day working to not do that.

00:55:10.240 Yeah.

00:55:10.420 And I, I think the fact that we're aware of it now, hopefully we'll help keep that 1.00

00:55:14.100 away because I think people don't realize, I think a lot of the people's problems is

00:55:19.040 they're not realizing that's what's happening.

00:55:21.700 You know, they just can't understand why they can't control their appetite or can't control

00:55:25.700 their alcohol or can't control whatever, you know, their discipline to go train or read

00:55:31.260 or whatever.

00:55:31.860 Right.

00:55:32.920 Yeah.

00:55:33.320 And I think, you know, for me, it also helps, you know, with just humility in that sense

00:55:38.800 of like, okay, I might have some, you know, discipline right now.

00:55:41.800 I might've done some cool shit, but it's like, well, you started off just a regular, you

00:55:47.140 know, fucking fat, insecure kid. 0.85

00:55:48.920 You can definitely go back there.

00:55:50.340 Yeah.

00:55:50.580 Right.

00:55:50.900 Like, so.

00:55:52.440 Cause when you realize what it takes to get there and you've earned it, you realize how

00:55:56.840 easy it is to go back.

00:55:58.180 Yeah.

00:55:58.360 And so you definitely don't run around acting all cocky and shit about it.

00:56:01.820 Like, look, when that fat dude speaks inside me, bro, I get like my nuts shrink a little

00:56:07.080 bit.

00:56:07.460 You don't say I'm like, Oh no, here he comes.

00:56:09.720 Like fucking stay puff.

00:56:10.860 Marshall, man.

00:56:11.440 Watch down the street, you know, walking down the street.

00:56:13.140 So yeah, bro.

00:56:14.900 Um, it is Sunday.

00:56:17.200 A lot of people are probably thinking about getting their shit together right now.

00:56:21.660 Uh, what would you say to them, man?

00:56:23.860 Yeah.

00:56:24.220 I would say, you know, why not go for it?

00:56:27.160 You know, um, I think all too often people, you know, they focus so much on like having

00:56:31.280 a why, right?

00:56:32.300 Like, and I think that's obviously part of the deal, but here's the deal, you know,

00:56:35.560 over the last eight years, I don't have a typical why, you know, in the sense of like

00:56:40.020 most people, Hey, I'm doing it for my kids.

00:56:41.700 Right.

00:56:42.160 Right.

00:56:42.340 Or, Hey, I have a health concern that I got to do this for this, or Hey, I got to, you

00:56:46.340 know, whatever.

00:56:47.140 Right.

00:56:48.220 So it's like, why not go for it?

00:56:49.760 Right.

00:56:49.980 All too often in society, you know, people overemphasize.

00:56:52.940 I think, Hey, you got to have a, why you got to have some big, like reason you got

00:56:56.680 to have blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:56:58.360 Like I've always been more of the approach of like, well, I'm going to fucking give it

00:57:02.120 hell.

00:57:02.380 And if something down the road happens, well, all right, I'll deal with that.

00:57:06.020 Then.

00:57:06.380 Well, isn't a, why isn't the biggest, why like, Hey, I want to kick ass in life.

00:57:10.780 Yeah.

00:57:11.160 Like, I mean, that isn't that as good of a, why is any of them?

00:57:14.060 I mean, that, that's why I do it.

00:57:15.640 You know, like, that's why I do it.

00:57:16.860 I do it consistently because one, I feel better.

00:57:19.180 One, I always feel the best that I do when I know I'm doing everything that I can do.

00:57:24.940 So what really gets me with like depression, anxiety issues, which I've been very open

00:57:28.580 about having is when I know I'm not doing what I should be doing and having the discipline

00:57:33.580 to control that and actually do those things, understanding that it helps me find a better

00:57:37.980 place mentally keeps me going.

00:57:40.560 Right.

00:57:40.880 And then you become addicted in a healthy way to improving.

00:57:44.860 And then the ripple effect of that, like, what about your friends?

00:57:49.200 What about your neighbor?

00:57:50.240 Like, bro, I have friends who have stepped up and become better because of this.

00:57:54.400 And I also have friends that I don't really fuck with anymore because they chose to go

00:57:58.940 this other way.

00:57:59.340 And I still love them.

00:58:00.220 They're good people.

00:58:00.980 But I mean, this is a great, I mean, when you talk about why it's like, I don't know,

00:58:05.960 like living the best fucking life you could possibly fucking live and knowing that like 0.89

00:58:09.940 when you die, that you did everything you fucking could to have an awesome life. 0.71

00:58:14.220 That's that's the why.

00:58:16.960 That's the why.

00:58:17.800 Right.

00:58:18.280 No.

00:58:18.920 And I 100 percent agree with that.

00:58:20.600 And that's, you know, what I think.

00:58:21.860 And I think I misspoke is because I think on the other side, it's like, OK, you know,

00:58:26.860 the why not?

00:58:27.600 It's like, well, fuck, I already know what it's like to be once again where I'm at right

00:58:31.020 now.

00:58:31.480 Yeah.

00:58:31.780 Why not fucking chase my potential?

00:58:33.680 Right.

00:58:33.820 And the thing that you, you know, once again, have taught me from, you know, eight years

00:58:36.920 ago, it's like, you know, uncovering your true potential.

00:58:39.840 And it's like, yeah, I'm going to go for that.

00:58:41.640 Right.

00:58:41.920 And I don't have necessarily what a specific is.

00:58:44.000 You said, hey, where's the finish line?

00:58:45.280 I don't know.

00:58:45.860 I'm with you.

00:58:47.000 I'm just going to go for it.

00:58:48.120 Yeah.

00:58:48.240 And I'm going to run really fucking hard at it and see where the chips fall, because

00:58:51.460 at the end of the day, like you said, you can lay your head down at night and be

00:58:53.900 like, fuck, yeah, I gave it my best and I have a sense of pride in that.

00:58:57.200 Yeah.

00:58:57.400 And that's built over that time of those little decisions.

00:59:00.420 Those commitments.

00:59:01.420 Absolutely.

00:59:02.000 That's right, bro.

00:59:02.640 And your confidence goes up.

00:59:04.440 Your belief in yourself goes up.

00:59:06.300 Your ability to execute goes up because you know you can execute.

00:59:09.600 Yep.

00:59:10.040 You know.

00:59:11.180 And I would also say just even this time of year, you know, starting tomorrow or whenever

00:59:16.380 or starting today when this comes out, you know, would be something that sets you up for

00:59:20.420 success because it's when most people struggle per se.

00:59:24.580 Right.

00:59:24.780 It's when society tells you you should gain a little weight.

00:59:27.680 Right.

00:59:28.020 You know, have all the dessert.

00:59:29.340 If you can fucking do it now.

00:59:31.220 Right.

00:59:31.600 And make it a challenge for yourself.

00:59:32.940 Yeah.

00:59:33.340 They're like, you know what?

00:59:34.260 No, I'm going to take this on.

00:59:36.020 I'm going to keep my commitment and I'm going to work through it.

00:59:38.460 I'm not worried about Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's.

00:59:41.220 Fuck.

00:59:41.440 You'll handle those situations when you get to it, because if you do it the right way,

00:59:45.120 by the time you get to those decisions, you will have already started to build confidence

00:59:48.820 in yourself.

00:59:49.300 You have already started to build the ability to say no to that bullshit that you had been

00:59:53.820 saying yes to.

00:59:54.800 So you can't look at what you're going to feel or think six or, you know, six weeks from

00:59:59.640 now.

01:00:00.400 No, you make the decision right now.

01:00:01.920 If you want to fucking get better, you say, yes, I'm going to get better and I'm starting

01:00:05.260 today.

01:00:05.620 And then you attack that day.

01:00:07.000 And then by the time you get to those events that you build up in your brain, you'll be

01:00:11.160 stronger and you'll be better than you are right now.

01:00:13.520 And you'll handle those and you'll be able to get through that and it'll build more fucking

01:00:16.980 confidence.

01:00:17.620 And then by the time that happens, you'll be into the new year.

01:00:20.140 You'll fucking have 75 days of momentum.

01:00:22.380 You'll fucking kick ass.

01:00:23.540 You said a key word there, bro.

01:00:24.900 Momentum.

01:00:25.300 I think that's one of the key lessons that people who have truly lived this program the

01:00:32.500 right way.

01:00:34.020 This is what I always hear back, bro, is one of the most powerful skills that these people

01:00:38.240 start to learn is how to create momentum on demand.

01:00:42.180 Which, dude, what better skill could you have in life than to be able to say, hey, man,

01:00:46.980 man, I'm recognizing I'm off right now is when that's going to change.

01:00:51.940 That's a powerful fucking thing, bro.

01:00:54.080 Yeah.

01:00:54.240 Like if you could control that momentum and you could control that and flip it on when

01:00:58.200 you realize that it's sort of dimmed off for a minute, what actually can stop you?

01:01:04.160 You know what I'm saying?

01:01:05.380 Like what can, the only thing that can stop you is you.

01:01:07.860 It sounds cheesy, right?

01:01:09.000 But the only thing that can stop you is you deciding that you want to stop.

01:01:13.940 And by the way, sometimes it's okay to stop, but wouldn't you want that stop decision to

01:01:18.700 be a decision and not something that you are just happen to fall upon because you made weak

01:01:23.780 decisions?

01:01:24.560 You see what I'm saying?

01:01:25.640 Absolutely.

01:01:26.480 Yeah.

01:01:26.680 So what's, what's your plans from here, bro?

01:01:30.120 Well, I'm in for live hard now.

01:01:32.000 So, uh, do a phase one and then, you know, take my 30 days off, uh, start phase two.

01:01:37.340 Haven't really set a date yet with that.

01:01:39.180 Cause I'm so focused on, Hey, one day at a time with phase one.

01:01:42.640 Um, but I know I, I'm going, I'm going all the way through.

01:01:45.320 So, yeah, that's awesome.

01:01:46.580 So what would you say to someone, man, who's thinking about, you know, they're hearing this

01:01:53.020 and they're thinking, you know, I think this might be something I need to do, but I'm not

01:01:56.560 sure.

01:01:56.820 What would you say?

01:01:57.880 Fucking do it.

01:01:58.620 Yeah.

01:01:58.960 I mean, it's literally that plain and simple, you know, and I would, you know, I would challenge

01:02:02.580 the people that, you know, might be more similar to me that think that they already are mentally

01:02:07.100 tough or disciplined or have grit.

01:02:09.220 It's like, okay, well, who says that you can't get better with that?

01:02:12.620 Right.

01:02:13.260 And I built the fucking program and I get tremendously better every single time.

01:02:17.480 That's what I'm saying.

01:02:18.380 It's not a sales pitch.

01:02:19.500 Like if it was a sales pitch, there wouldn't be a billion hashtags.

01:02:22.860 It's a fucking 75 hard on the internet.

01:02:25.320 You know what I'm saying?

01:02:26.300 Like the shit works.

01:02:27.560 Yeah.

01:02:27.760 So if you're thinking about doing it and you're one of these people who is already a successful

01:02:32.600 person, these areas to your standard, I challenge you to raise your standard with you.

01:02:39.780 Yeah.

01:02:40.360 Push yourself a little harder through the program.

01:02:42.440 See what you get out of it.

01:02:44.040 You know, one of my favorite things is every time I finish one of these cycles, dude, I am

01:02:47.920 literally the fucking best I've ever been at the oldest I've been. 0.71

01:02:51.640 You know, I'm supposed to be getting worse, getting tremendously better.

01:02:55.040 I can get jacked, man.

01:02:56.000 Whooped everyone's ass around here in the transformation.

01:02:57.920 Yeah.

01:02:58.080 And I mean, there were some people that did good, you know, but, uh, I held my own.

01:03:03.680 Yeah.

01:03:04.140 You know, I think I asserted my dominance.

01:03:08.360 So, uh, so yeah, guys.

01:03:10.880 So that's the show.

01:03:11.880 All right.

01:03:13.180 If you're interested in 75 heart, first of all, bro, thanks for coming on, man.

01:03:16.900 Um, honored to be here.

01:03:18.440 Yeah.

01:03:18.580 I want to bring you back on, uh, maybe when we have someone else who's done the program

01:03:24.400 and just talk to them as well, because I, I just love the things that come out of these

01:03:28.640 conversations about this program.

01:03:30.700 Cause it's never the same, right?

01:03:31.820 It's never the same things that we talk about with everybody.

01:03:34.540 So, um, I would like to have you back to contribute to some of those conversations, uh, in the

01:03:39.640 future on that for sure.

01:03:40.680 Yeah, absolutely.

01:03:41.940 Um, so guys, yeah, that's the show.

01:03:44.140 If you're someone who's thinking about doing 75 hard, um, you go listen to the web or listen

01:03:50.300 to the podcast.

01:03:51.120 It's a episode 14 on the relay feed.

01:03:53.360 You can also go to 75 hard.com.

01:03:55.760 Um, and if you have a story and if you've done the program and you want to be on the podcast,

01:04:00.740 something that you want to share, uh, it's 75 hard at Andy for cella.com.

01:04:05.340 Okay.

01:04:05.580 That's an email address.

01:04:06.860 Type that in, tell us your story.

01:04:09.040 Um, explain why you think you'd be a good fit for what we want to talk about.

01:04:13.240 And, uh, maybe we'll get you on, but you know, there's also a book too.

01:04:17.220 It's on Andy for cella.com, but you can hear about the program for free on episode 14.

01:04:21.480 Um, and the book just dives much, much deeper in, uh, definitely highly recommend the book,

01:04:27.600 but you don't have to buy it.

01:04:28.580 So, so we'll, where can people find you, man?

01:04:32.680 Cause I know people are going to have questions.

01:04:34.100 They're going to want to talk to you.

01:04:36.340 Um, where are you most active on social?

01:04:39.760 Yeah, really just Instagram.

01:04:40.900 Um, and it's very simple.

01:04:41.940 It's at will Grumke.

01:04:43.420 So my first and last name.

01:04:44.460 So W I L L G R U M K E. 1.00

01:04:48.360 Yeah.

01:04:48.660 And you guys should follow him too, man, because, uh, he's actually one of my favorite

01:04:52.060 follows just because of the stuff that he writes and his captions.

01:04:55.400 Uh, so go to his page, check it out.

01:04:57.080 Uh, give my man a follow and, uh, I, I guarantee you won't regret it.

01:05:01.480 So yeah, guys, um, that's the show.

01:05:04.160 I appreciate you guys.

01:05:05.140 You've got value out of the show, which I think you had to have this time.

01:05:09.640 Um, share the show, you know, uh, you don't necessarily have to post it.

01:05:13.280 Posts are definitely awesome, but really more so more important.

01:05:16.580 Share with your friends, the people who you think will get value out of it.

01:05:19.600 Give them a text, you know, send them the link.

01:05:21.540 We don't, uh, advertise for the show.

01:05:23.680 I don't advertise on the show unless of course it's for my own children's books.

01:05:27.180 Um, then I do it very, uh, generously, but, uh, we spread on word of mouth guys.

01:05:34.060 This is America.

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01:05:40.080 All right.

01:05:41.580 Love you guys.

01:05:42.300 Talk to you next time.

01:05:43.400 Went from sleeping on the floor.

01:05:45.360 Now my jewelry box froze.

01:05:47.080 Fuck a bowl.

01:05:47.860 Fuck a stove. 0.96

01:05:48.720 Counted millions in the cold.

01:05:50.380 Bad bitch. 1.00

01:05:51.220 Booty swole. 1.00

01:05:52.060 Got her on bankroll.

01:05:53.680 Can't fold.

01:05:54.580 Doesn't know.

01:05:55.380 Headshot.

01:05:56.200 Case closed.

REAL AF with Andy Frisella - November 21, 2021

176. #75HARD vs Will Grumke

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