REAL AF with Andy Frisella - November 28, 2021


182. Q&AF: Vision Boards, #75HARD Diet & Uplifting People


Episode Stats

Length

23 minutes

Words per Minute

218.31566

Word Count

5,220

Sentence Count

2

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

93


Summary

In this episode of The Realists, Andy and Afu and I talk about the importance of QA's and how they can be used to help you achieve your goals and dreams. We also talk about how you should be using your QA skills to achieve your dreams and goals.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 what is up guys it's andy versella and this is the show for the realists say goodbye to the lies
00:00:21.500 the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys today we
00:00:25.380 have a q and af uh before we get into the show i'd like to remind you of the fee the fee is very
00:00:31.040 simple if you learn something which you will if it entertain you which you will it made you smarter
00:00:36.920 which it fucking will share the show if it didn't actually do that don't share the show that's the
00:00:42.260 fee man it's very simple so and and dude i like to remind you guys like when i say share the fee
00:00:48.420 really cool to put i love the post and everything but don't forget to like actually stand up and
00:00:53.820 speak on some of the topics that we talk about here and then recommend the show to people who
00:00:57.960 are listening because um we're trying to bring motherfuckers together we're trying to wake
00:01:02.900 people up to the fucking insane shit that's happening in the world uh and we need your help
00:01:07.520 so help us grow the show it's a very simple solution i think a fair deal anyway what we got today guys
00:01:15.980 as always we got three questions for andy here um you guys can i mean it's fair right no it's bro
00:01:20.700 that's fair shit ever like we don't fucking i could be making millions of dollars on ads on my
00:01:24.480 podcast no for sure and honestly like i would just rather grow the show get the message out i would
00:01:28.720 rather you send me a video on instagram i would rather you dm me a video of you talking to three
00:01:33.380 other friends about the show than just simply giving me a story mention i i like both but i like both
00:01:38.520 are cool but i know one's gonna go a lot further i think people just forget to talk about it in real
00:01:42.820 life yeah like you know when these topics come up like fuck dude speak up you know i'm saying
00:01:48.360 like hey my boy andy and my boy white lightning yeah just drop some shit that's right i don't like
00:01:53.100 that oh yeah i mean i don't know why i made that voice i don't know whatever that voice was do that
00:01:56.500 that was cool say just in that voice okay all right cool yeah you'll get extra street cred for
00:02:00.340 that so we got three questions that's probably racist i feel like there's a little mayonnaise in
00:02:05.160 that i don't know i feel mayonnaise bro you know i was i almost posted this today but i didn't want
00:02:09.840 to be a total asshole but like man there is a lot of corny shit on instagram like a lot of you
00:02:14.300 motherfuckers like really are made of mayonnaise oh yeah i'm talking about duke's hellman's fucking
00:02:18.700 mayor i mean it's all we we we need like a swag school yeah i think that's fair you know what i'm
00:02:23.660 saying like we need a we need a swag class for some of you people like dude could you imagine the people
00:02:28.180 that come oh fuck bro there'd be a lot of people there that you would not think would be there would
00:02:31.700 be there yeah well like syed yeah well syed's got real swag you know i'm saying but like dude these
00:02:39.400 man another thing is too like let's be real q a on the instagram story is is really just a cover
00:02:46.380 for people to talk about their shit yeah like fuck man how many you know it's a great venting tool
00:02:51.200 yeah and how many motherfuckers use that tool and then answer the same five questions fucking three
00:02:55.820 times a week just so they can talk about themselves like it's weird you know like we talk about this for
00:03:01.880 like years and years and years and years but this is about other people this is about delivering value
00:03:06.020 you know like fuck yeah it's crazy that people can't silence their own desire to talk about their
00:03:14.640 own selves in order to serve other people and not even not even recognize it yeah just one of the
00:03:22.240 many issues pay attention to the fucking q a's but it's so weird yeah man you motherfuckers that do
00:03:27.880 all those q a's you should be out like building shit instead of doing q a's yeah i do i do them like
00:03:33.760 once a month maybe but that's just to like no i'm talking about these people who do them like
00:03:37.160 every fucking other day or every day like it's like dude we know yeah we know right and then they
00:03:42.820 switch to another account to ask them a question yeah no shit no shit stop that shit just told my
00:03:50.180 secret yeah stop yeah yeah i get it i get it all right so we got three questions man so as always
00:03:58.700 guys email your questions in to ask andy at andy for seller.com we thoroughly appreciate those
00:04:03.920 questions guys so keep them coming and um and we appreciate those so let's get into it question
00:04:10.580 number one all right vision boards uh visualization those are all really really big things for you
00:04:17.000 right how often or do you or should you ever revise your vision board once you achieve the goals
00:04:23.500 that's on there so like maybe you got like you know 15 goals on there you achieve one do you take
00:04:27.200 that goal off or do you just leave it no man uh i actually create a whole new board i i kept my
00:04:33.740 old vision boards like from every major jump that i've had i've kept my old ones literally exactly the
00:04:39.180 way they were i didn't fuck with them because like dude now i look back at them they're almost exactly
00:04:43.200 what i have in mind so i would make a whole new board when you get to a point where most of the shit
00:04:49.200 that's on your board is representative of the things that you wanted to represent and you have those
00:04:55.220 things in your life it's time for a new board yeah a whole new board so that way even five more years
00:04:59.940 down the road from now okay you can look back at that original one and be like god dude i didn't
00:05:06.200 know shit i didn't have shit look how far i've came it's a tremendous there's a tremendous amount
00:05:10.620 of pride in that like dude i still have my my original vision board it's down uh i made in 2007
00:05:16.160 it's down in my basement of my house right now dude and like if i showed it to you you'd fucking laugh
00:05:21.380 like you would know no shit knowing like i gotta see it now yeah you you would look at it and be
00:05:26.260 like holy shit yeah that's like i like no you just made this last night that's right i'd be super
00:05:31.760 embarrassed to even live that life you know i'm saying that's the importance of having it because
00:05:36.160 it keeps things in perspective and it shows you how far you've come yeah uh plus also and i think in
00:05:42.420 creating the new vision board you know remember we're dealing with metaphysics and quantum physics
00:05:46.680 here where like you're putting you're creating an actual thought in your brain you're putting it out in the
00:05:51.040 universe and that universe is then aligning itself to help deliver these objects that you're putting
00:05:56.000 on this board um there's a process of creation in that right like you have to get creative and so i
00:06:02.500 think even like getting a whole new board with a whole new style a whole new look because bro you
00:06:06.460 ain't the same person you were three or four years ago you know what i'm saying like uh you're always
00:06:11.340 going to evolve and i think even making the board in a way that like represents more who you are kind
00:06:17.280 of like from the swag factor you know i'm saying yeah like dude put some effort into this shit make
00:06:21.460 it cool like a lot of people just go get a piece of fucking uh poster board and like take some pictures
00:06:26.580 and shit and like bro is that all your dreams are worth that fucking shitty ass board or do you want
00:06:32.700 to be worth like like bro you know i i'm just saying it put some time into it yeah because it kind of
00:06:40.080 represents everything like i i i that's dude i've never heard i mean yeah i know dude but like you
00:06:46.840 also know from being with me bro that i am like a stickler about quality everything like when i go
00:06:52.380 fucking hotel what room do i stay in motherfucking best okay when i fucking travel i travel the best
00:06:58.520 when i fucking do when i buy clothes i buy the fucking best and it's not so i can brag i don't even
00:07:03.480 post this shit for you motherfuckers to see right it's because i'm investing in my brand which is the
00:07:08.200 motherfucking best you see what i'm saying like there's a lot to that so why would you put all
00:07:13.640 your dreams onto some board that we're doing a half ass bro make that shit fucking royalty make it gold
00:07:20.180 you know what i'm saying yeah and and do that every three or four years and reevaluate where you are
00:07:25.300 it's powerful it's powerful man powerful it really works too and people who think it doesn't well
00:07:32.140 good luck with your life bro i know where i'm going you know what i'm saying yeah so when's
00:07:39.140 the last time you made a vision board uh what's your most recent one well i need to make one yeah
00:07:44.800 it's been probably about four years since i made since i made one original i need to make one but
00:07:49.280 like see dude like my the last one i made my shit's so big they're like i'm not there yet you know i'm
00:07:54.480 saying so uh eventually you get to that point where you're like like i don't know what else to
00:08:00.560 fucking think of yeah yeah that's what i'm saying so like i'm like if i when i accomplish what's on
00:08:05.080 this most recent one um it's time to start thinking about like how like what elon does where it's like
00:08:11.200 okay well i've accomplished all the shit i want to accomplish how do we go to the fucking moon
00:08:14.800 right like legitimately so i got a ways to go on my current one but that doesn't mean that i couldn't
00:08:20.720 refresh the whole process and make it a little bit more fine-tuned yeah which is what i'm gonna do
00:08:24.600 yeah it's fucking dope all right question number two this is a 75 hard question we've had this
00:08:30.320 my dad probably agree we've had this come through quite a few times what when you're on 75 hard
00:08:35.500 or any other phases for that matter what diet do you follow uh well i cover that in the book
00:08:41.680 it's uh it's in the book so i talk about it it's very simple it's uh i do an intermittent fasting
00:08:48.220 a modified intermittent fasting um carb rotation style diet where i'm doing uh
00:08:55.200 like here's the bottom line it doesn't really matter what the fuck i did
00:08:59.640 because it's about what what you're gonna stick to and follow and follow through on
00:09:05.180 and you know my goals are my goals that's why i don't specify diet in the program right and i don't
00:09:10.800 necessarily always talk about my diet because my diet is a is a custom diet that i built for me
00:09:15.820 right you know i'm saying i work with my buddy honey on it all the time we fucking we're always
00:09:20.580 adjusting things week by week by week by week and that's what we you know and uh
00:09:25.560 but basically yeah i've been intermittent fasting for the last five years i don't i only eat from
00:09:32.460 uh the hours of seven o'clock to midnight every day seven o'clock at night to midnight and people
00:09:37.020 hear that holy shit i do have a post-workout after i lift in the morning so when i train in the
00:09:41.860 morning with weights i have a post-workout and then my fast starts at seven or stops at seven
00:09:47.600 and uh and then you know as far as the macros and the what goes into those meal those calories that
00:09:53.060 that's usually on a carb rotation a four-day rotation where i do like you know two low days
00:09:59.220 moderate day high day or or fucking four low days if i'm if i'm fat you know i'm saying so that's
00:10:04.620 what i'm saying like it's not it's not important what the fuck i did what's important is is that
00:10:10.520 you educate yourself with somebody who's a professional who fucking can help you and coach
00:10:16.080 you through um and find the right program for you and maybe if you're one of these people who knows
00:10:21.680 like i'm one of like i know more about fucking dieting than most people will ever fucking know
00:10:26.360 yeah but i still ask fucking like i ask people i trust and believe in say hey uh what what about
00:10:33.240 this or that when i'm talking about myself because we all see ourself through a different fucking lens
00:10:37.300 so i'm a big advocate of finding someone who's actually really good at helping someone develop
00:10:42.380 a diet that um you know will help them accomplish their goal but at the end of the day guys you know
00:10:49.080 there's a trillion different ways to get this job done but they all come down to the same basic
00:10:53.480 factors you know drink water trying to lose weight you got to be in a calorie deficit you want to have
00:10:58.300 protein every three hours keeping muscle protein synthesis there uh you know you got to train with
00:11:03.280 weights and and and basic things like that macronutrients gut health greens like those
00:11:07.680 basic things will take you fucking they'll take you so far you know i'm saying and you know the same
00:11:14.300 with gaining weight like you how do you just got to eat a calorie surplus but all the rest of the
00:11:18.120 shit's the same like it's all it's it's very simple people try to make it confusing so they can sell
00:11:23.880 it you know and like i don't blame them like everybody's got everybody but bro it's all been done
00:11:29.160 you know i'm saying it's all been done so and and people like to argue about the the nuances and
00:11:34.660 the and the intricacies and the this and that and this this it's mainly about adherence and are you in
00:11:41.480 uh are you following a program that's going to get you to where you want to go you know what i mean
00:11:45.800 and there's probably there's probably a hundred different programs that'll get you where you want
00:11:49.740 to go so it's about finding the one that you can live with that's really the fucking honest truth
00:11:54.620 so yeah but i like intermittent fasting well i've actually because you actually are the one
00:12:00.780 that put me on intermittent intermittent fasting i'll tell you what it's it was not easy to begin
00:12:05.280 yeah and people want to argue oh there's better this and that you know what i'd probably have a
00:12:10.140 better fucking body composure if i ate every three fucking hours on the dot blah blah blah blah blah
00:12:14.140 blah but you know what guess what i got other shit to do besides sit around and eat out of a
00:12:19.740 fucking tupperware all fucking yeah so that's what works for me i'm 255
00:12:24.440 pounds of fucking twisted steel and sex appeal you probably don't look as good as me so take your
00:12:29.480 fucking diet advice particulars and stick them up your butthole that's the truth it's a fucking
00:12:35.140 truth so i love it yeah they all know what i'm talking about yeah like it it's basic shit and i'm not
00:12:42.220 even about to sit here and fucking pretend like it isn't so find someone who knows some shit who's
00:12:47.160 reputable who will help you and find your own little path and don't worry about what the fuck i'm
00:12:52.000 doing worry about what you're doing great fucking answer yeah all right so question number three so
00:12:57.220 you i believe this was a podcast you did with ed um by the way not only do i probably look better
00:13:03.200 i guarantee you i'm a thousand times busier than you too so i just like to add that in there
00:13:07.700 let's talk some more shit yeah right right motherfuckers yeah um so fuck dude i get i get that
00:13:13.260 shit bro yeah no dude you're you're you're just you should be in shape you own a something
00:13:18.380 with a company motherfucker i own like a bunch of companies right i got a bunch of shit to do
00:13:22.600 this shit i'm busier than fucking almost anybody i fucking know you know what i'm saying like this
00:13:27.860 shit ain't easy no i can only imagine bro if we have every three hours we were having to fucking
00:13:32.260 go warm up tupperware and shit i it wouldn't happen it couldn't happen it wouldn't happen
00:13:36.080 i'm just saying like dude like people it's whatever man i don't really care here's what i know
00:13:41.740 you should worry about yourself that's how about that that good motherfuckers i think it's great
00:13:49.660 yeah but but i'm jacked tan juicy as fuck hot tazisa that's right uh if you don't like it fuck all
00:13:58.640 hey so question number three so you you did a podcast with ed uh a couple of months ago um and you you
00:14:06.280 talked about this metaphor and that was like a fucking year ago bro was a year ago yeah it was like
00:14:11.060 last december i think about it coming up on like a year i think anyway yeah once ago um and you
00:14:18.300 talked about this metaphorical ladder of success right and how you know you're climbing up this
00:14:22.620 ladder and there's people ahead of you and people below you yep always how do you handle people on
00:14:27.060 the metaphorical ladder of success that are under you and trying to climb up right like how do you
00:14:31.600 deal with those people whether they're trying to pull you down or they're reaching up for help
00:14:34.900 how do you handle those people well if they're trying to pull you down they're usually not that
00:14:39.500 close to me where i'm at right now you know i'm saying like those pull you down type people they
00:14:43.500 get kicked off early so like you know when we were talking about that analogy you know uh you know
00:14:49.440 there's people let's just say on a 25 year scale of business right and the people down there are one
00:14:56.120 two three on the first two three years those people are always the kind of people that like you know
00:15:02.440 not always but a lot of times those kind of people that are scamming people or uh they got like a
00:15:07.420 little you know uh gray area to their business or something now right right um and these people
00:15:15.620 never have the i the attitude of abundance it's always scarcity driven you know you and me got to
00:15:24.360 be enemies because we compete blah blah blah and as you move up the ladder you know that shit gets less
00:15:30.040 and less because there's less and less people those people never really get anywhere because what you
00:15:34.600 realize is the people that are above you bro you know what can't you just cut in that the the talk
00:15:40.900 ed and i talked about the where we talked about the ladder of success let's just cut that in right
00:15:45.420 here here it is for you guys listen to if you're if you're a young business owner and i'm not saying
00:15:49.380 young in age i mean young in your business you know less than five years i would say your compete
00:15:53.960 your competition is so much higher because of where you're at there's more people and so you're
00:15:59.380 if you guys would just fucking hang in there in another five years you go kind of it works like
00:16:04.500 a pyramid right these people consolidate or they go away or they do something different and now all
00:16:09.920 of a sudden instead of 10 people you're competing with you're competing with five and then if you hang
00:16:13.940 in another five years it's two or three and dude now it's like okay what's fucking steve doing over
00:16:21.180 there oh steve's doing that all right well we're gonna do it becomes real fucking easy and not only that
00:16:25.600 when shit gets fucked up you say you get on the phone you say hey steve quit fucking it up
00:16:30.520 you know what i'm saying true like you start to know everybody the big thing as an entrepreneur is
00:16:35.040 you want to be in the 20-year room yeah exactly what you're saying the one-year room is loaded with
00:16:39.080 failure and you look around you're like this stuff doesn't work nobody makes it five-year room there's
00:16:43.160 a couple people that have won and there's fewer people in the room you get to the 10-year room
00:16:46.960 you know you're a 10-year entrepreneur whatever you do there's some winning going on but you get to
00:16:50.800 the 20-year room of being an entrepreneur people are winning in that damn room yeah and it's
00:16:55.520 a very small room and to your point you can compete in there most people look at entrepreneurship like
00:17:00.440 it's the one-year room all the time it isn't the one-year room no five years from now it's a
00:17:03.900 different room 10 years from now it's a different trust me as an older dude 20 years from now if
00:17:08.860 you're still an entrepreneur if you're still executing your business that's a pretty good
00:17:11.980 room you're probably standing in yeah just being there will be pretty good for you you know what's
00:17:15.860 cool about the dynamic of the 20-year room is that dude it's it's competition but it's also
00:17:21.920 friendly yeah and like it's respect so yes so like in the in the beginning the first five years
00:17:27.160 dude you fucking hate everybody you're like dude fuck you you know you're fucking like dude i'm gonna
00:17:32.160 burn that guy's fucking house down like it's like this so you're still in the one-year room
00:17:36.520 i've gotten better everybody asked me what's my what's my greatest accomplishment is i have a
00:17:42.380 fucking degree in andrew no like it is a fucking degree bro no your greatest accomplishment is
00:17:48.140 actually that no one's house has been burned out i do like you on this side of the bars
00:17:54.060 so but dude but you do get to that and that's another thing i'm learning like i just be real
00:18:01.060 like i'm recently in the 20-year room right like i'm only this is our 23rd year okay so now i'm in
00:18:08.540 the room and i'm pretty much the youngest guy in that room most of the time and i'm starting you know
00:18:13.340 when i first got in that room and ed you helped me with this you know i'm burning everybody down
00:18:17.540 yeah you know i'm saying like and i'm and but what i didn't realize is that all these dudes they want
00:18:22.180 to help me you know i'm saying and then i'm when i started realizing that i'm like oh fuck dude
00:18:26.560 this is like a fraternity yeah this ain't the five-year room no and guys that's what you know you never hear
00:18:32.520 that talked about but it's so true like it's true there's so much disrespect in the five and ten years
00:18:37.960 but then when you get to the 20 years you know you still have those young punks that come around
00:18:42.220 every fucking couple years there's a dick or two in the 20 year room but you know what happens
00:18:45.620 they get kicked off the fucking ladder dude so like you know the ladder to success you know in
00:18:50.360 the beginning you're climbing you're climbing you're climbing it and there's people above that
00:18:54.200 above you on that ladder no matter who the fuck you are above me above you above fucking everybody
00:18:59.540 and what happens is is if you get up that ladder with the bad attitude guess what happens those guys
00:19:04.800 above you they they can either reach down and pull you up or they can kick you off the fucking ladder
00:19:09.860 and dude you don't want to get kicked off the ladder for the wrong attitude because it happens
00:19:13.580 all the time dude how many times do in that 20 year room you know our little group of guys you know
00:19:19.740 that we know probably 10 guys is there a fucking text or something that goes on and be like yeah dude
00:19:24.680 this guy no yeah stay away from this dude don't put him on your show yeah don't do this dude and
00:19:29.520 motherfuckers get blackballed without even realizing that they got blackballed because they do ignorant
00:19:34.220 shit like leave a fucking negative post on your podcast or something and do some fucked up shit to
00:19:39.420 fuck with you for no reason yeah you were up you were a fool by the way if right now you're in the
00:19:43.640 10 or 15 year room and you aren't doing everything you can to aggratiate yourself to people in the 20
00:19:48.640 like that's right i'm almost in the 30 year room i guess i'm really close this next year i'll be in the
00:19:53.200 30 year room but i am around dudes who are in the 40 year room i'm even around a few that are in the
00:19:57.920 50 year room and their lives are freaking bananas yeah i want to do everything i can to be in good
00:20:03.160 graces with those dudes to learn from them so you'll be real careful what you say what you comment on
00:20:07.660 what you share gossip all that stuff we talked about earlier in the show yeah it's gonna hurt
00:20:12.260 you when you get to that 20 year room yeah kick your ass out yeah dude don't fuck with people man
00:20:16.020 like that's really that's really what it comes down to don't fuck with people pretty simple yeah
00:20:20.280 like dude i know a lot of you guys are you know you're you think you're doing something you think
00:20:25.020 you're cool and you think you could take a bite out of the fucking guy that's like up the ladder
00:20:28.980 from you bro that will come back to fuck you because what happens is and what you don't realize is
00:20:33.360 those motherfuckers have a lot of resources and instead of like going to fight you on the
00:20:37.860 instagram that's not what they do what they do is they make your life really fucking hard without
00:20:41.840 saying a word right they're running ads to your account they're fucking uh hiring your employees
00:20:47.440 they're fuck dude and all of a sudden all this bad shit starts happening you can't figure out what
00:20:51.780 the fuck's going on because you fucking made an ignorant comment to someone or disrespected them
00:20:57.000 all right so that's the whole story of the ladder of success now uh how do i handle people that come
00:21:03.600 that are below me now yeah i want to help them as much as possible because i know they've already
00:21:08.220 made themselves they've gotten through that part where the people get kicked off the ladder right
00:21:12.520 yeah i mean fuck dude i'm 20 something 23 years in this shit you know uh i'm i'm past a lot of that
00:21:20.160 bullshit you know people that people on my level we work together to get better you know and um
00:21:25.600 you know so so but like when you're younger and you got people coming up that are that are trying
00:21:30.880 to hurt you or take from you or this or that um it's a very fine line to to to navigate i think
00:21:37.480 the best thing that you can do is to to wish the best for people and help them all the time regardless
00:21:42.460 of uh you know with with with some caution you know i'm saying if you know someone's maliciously
00:21:49.840 gonna fuck with you don't help them noot yeah i mean you don't have to fucking wish bad on them
00:21:54.520 but definitely don't help them yeah you know what i mean and uh the people who are are just
00:21:58.960 trying to learn and get better and you suspect they're genuine dude help those motherfuckers
00:22:03.180 this shit's hard you know what i'm saying and if they end up burning you they'll be kicked off the
00:22:07.320 ladder at some point and somebody will take care of them i've never seen it not work that way i've never
00:22:12.940 seen it not work that way so people the the the hierarchy of success sort of sort of uh it's sort of
00:22:20.540 like darwinism you know i'm saying like uh the it's self-regulating you know what i mean uh so
00:22:28.520 you know be true to your own values be true to what you know to be true what's what i know to be
00:22:33.300 true is this when you wish good for shit and you help people with your actions and you wish good for
00:22:38.800 them and you do what you can to help them the universe always helps you that in some way shape or
00:22:44.340 form and i think if you're malicious and you wish for people to fail and you wish bad on people
00:22:49.220 even if you pretend and smile in real life uh that you wish good for them if you're in your heart and
00:22:55.500 your intent you want bad for them i think bad shit's gonna happen to you and that's what i believe so i
00:23:00.220 think it's important to be true to your values and let the cards fall where they may that that's how i
00:23:05.200 live well that's three guys so go pay the fee yeah guys look hey we're trying to grow this show man
00:23:10.700 we don't run ads on the show we don't run ads for the show so if you could help us grow the show man
00:23:15.480 when this when these topics come up don't be afraid to speak about them don't be afraid to talk
00:23:19.520 about them don't be afraid to tell people that we're talking about them all right we want to get
00:23:23.960 this message out there and we're trying to bring america back together again uh with facts and with
00:23:29.120 reality and i think everybody out there at some point is starting to question what's actually
00:23:33.880 happening in the world and we're going to need some unifying voices so be one and also help us be
00:23:38.840 by sharing the show went from sleeping on the floor now my jewelry box froze fuck a pole fuck a stove
00:23:46.240 counted millions in the code bad bitch booted swole got her on bankroll can't fold doesn't know headshot
00:23:53.720 case closed