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Summary
Andy and Vaughn discuss their favorite Christmas memories, the best and worst gifts they ever received, and the worst gift they ever got. Also, Andy talks about his favorite Christmas movie and Vaughn talks about the worst thing he ever got as a kid.
Transcript
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I told my teacher, dumb bitch, I'm gonna get millions, in the project living, spoke it
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to existence, mold changed to 50, got mold cost than did it, I only weigh 180, but my
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Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of our culture and society, and
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I'm here with my co-host, Vaughn, the pastor of Disaster, you know him as the world's
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The spiritual guru for all those who are committed to excellence.
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Because these names, they have to be seasonally appropriate.
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You've literally never kissed anybody under mistletoe?
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It's, you know, when you're like me, it's kind of like mistletoe all the time.
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Girls just walk around carrying mistletoe in the hopes, well, you know, dashed hopes,
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Well, I mean, you know, it comes with the territory.
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Not everybody can be, you know, 260 pounds of twisted steel in sex appeal.
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But I get it, you know, for the mortals, mistletoe is an appropriate thing.
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Speaking of which, because we're talking about Christmas, when's the last time you got something
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Because, I mean, you're a guy, you've been successful, you've got a lot of, you know.
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So, I'm thinking that the best gift you ever got was probably something you got when you
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Because, like, today, you know, today it is different, right?
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Because when you get to a point where you can do kind of whatever you want to do.
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You really start to learn to appreciate things that mean things.
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And I'm fortunate enough to get that so much, like, I get it so much that I feel bad saying
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But those letters and the things that people send me, like the little things, especially
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like a lot of guys will send me, like, if they're in the teams or something, they'll
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send me, like, their team coin or something like that.
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Listen, I could write a book about that, brother.
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And we didn't have the big ones like you had when you were a kid.
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I had the medium ones that are, like, I don't know, four inches tall or six inches tall,
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No, but honestly, though, you and I both played with G.I.
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Joe's in the golden years, because, man, early 90s, they started getting weird.
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They started getting, like, really politically correct.
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I had the dudes that, like, killed other people.
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Like, I remember, like, I had, like, Snake Eyes, and I had Wild Bill.
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That, you know, and do what I would do at Christmas.
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So, we had this train set around our tree, an LGB train, which is a G-scale train.
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So, I had this train set, and I would, like, put my G.I. Joe characters on the train, right,
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and then run the train, and I would create, like, these little battle scenes of these dudes
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riding the train, and you know what I'm saying?
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Like, I'd make them hang off the train, and then in the summertime, when it was firework
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season, I, like, taped, uh, bottle rockets to their back and made them fucking jet packs
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I don't know if you remember this, but on the back of a G.I. Joe action figure, there
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was, like, a little screw, and you could actually unscrew it, taking them apart.
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We used to take the guys apart, and we would combine them with other guys and create our
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Like, I remember getting, uh, when I was a kid, I remember getting, uh, uh, like one
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It was like the, it was like a tank, but not really a tank.
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I don't even know what, honestly, I'm so out of it.
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I mean, I've got three little kids all under the age of six.
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So, they're not really, they're not really playing with, like, popular toys yet, you
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They're still young enough to where they're playing with pretty standard stuff, like dolls
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So, I don't even know what's popular these days.
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Like, I don't know what your nephew plays with, like Enzo.
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I just bought him, uh, the same LGB train that we had.
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Because Sal posted on his Snap that they had a piece of shit train.
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So, I went on Amazon when I was fucked up and ordered, like, $2,000 worth of fucking
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And now this little fucker's going to have all the shit that I wanted.
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I feel like, not to get off on this tangent, but I do feel like so many toys these days
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But I feel like kids don't play, like, they don't play Army.
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If you do that, dude, they send you home from school.
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For some of you young bucks out there that don't know this.
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You used to be able to go to Walmart, and you could get a plastic M16 that looked exactly
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Bro, that was, like, the shit that I wanted all the time.
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Like, now they don't, it's not, you can't do that shit no more.
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You fucking, if you did half the shit that I did when I was a kid, they would call the
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You don't want your kid running around learning how to kill other people.
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And you and I both are big supporters of the police department and, you know, law enforcement.
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I understand also why they went to, you know, they started making those toys to where there
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was something about the toy that made it clear that it was a toy.
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Like, it had a big red, you know, stopper at the, you know, because what happened back
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in the 80s is, you know, you had little kids with toys and police officers.
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It's crazy to think how, in my opinion, how overcorrected we are now.
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Like, you probably shouldn't have BB gun wars when you're fucking nine years old like
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Like, we actually shot each other with BB guns.
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Like, you fucking kids out there wearing all that armor and shit with Airsoft, you're
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Like, I'm extremely lucky that I have both eyes.
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Well, speaking of guns, which is, of course, a very controversial topic, but speaking of
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But you and I both recently watched a movie that had quite a bit of guns in it, but that
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You and I, you were actually the one that told me about the movie.
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I'm not big on, like, the Netflix original things.
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Like, I've watched a couple, and I'm like, oh, they're decent.
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That one, that, that, is this your first podcast there, buddy?
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So, anyway, I completely forgot what the fuck I was going to say.
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No, you were talking about, you're not used to watching, you're not necessarily big on
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De Niro, Pacino, fucking Scorsese, Pesce, you know, like, dude, it is, and it's good.
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I think it's the best movie that they've, like, out of the casino and the Goodfellas and all
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these other movies, and a lot of people are going to get pissed when I say this, but I
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And I guess, you know, we'll do our best not to reveal too much in terms of spoilers,
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But if you've got Netflix, go watch that movie.
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And just to give you kind of a quick rundown, I mean, it's a combination of historical events
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So Scorsese makes it clear that he says, you know, these are based on historical events,
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but there's areas we took liberties, we kind of speculated about what might happen.
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But the movie centers around Frank Sheeran, who's played by Robert De Niro, and he's the actual
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And for those of you who don't know, Frank Sheeran was an actual historical figure.
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Like, he was really involved in the Teamsters and the unions back in the 60s, but...
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And I don't profess to know everything about this, but I think back in the 60s, there was
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some sort of connection between those two at different points where there was, you know,
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mobs were involved in Teamsters and Teamsters were involved in mobs.
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That's not to say everybody involved in the union was part of the mob.
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But anyway, the movie is basically about Frank Sheeran's life, and it follows his relationship
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with Russ Buffalino, who was from a crime family in the 60s, and of course, the major
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And Buffalino's played by Joe Pesci just brilliantly, dude.
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Dude, it's totally different than his, like, typical role, too.
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Like, when I think of Pesci, I think of, like, how in Casino, he was just, like, this fucking
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Look, dude, and if you don't want it fucking spoiled, you should probably go watch the
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Yeah, go watch it and come back and listen to this.
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Because we're going to talk about it, because there's some good stuff in it.
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I mean, like, he makes you, like, you know, he makes you, like, scared.
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He is such a brilliant actor that he literally somehow perfectly combined the gentle grandfather
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with the guy that you don't mess with, or you're going to end up six feet under.
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It was just, I mean, some of the expressions on his face.
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But the other major character in the movie, and a huge part of the movie, is Jimmy Hoffa,
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And, again, for those who know about Jimmy Hoffa, he was a labor leader.
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Like, probably one of the most powerful and influential people, men, in the 60s and the
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But, anyway, so what we thought we'd do is, well, let me just, like, let's start just generally.
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Like, tell me your general thoughts about what you liked about the movie.
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Look, man, you know, that was an era when business was done on honor and respect.
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You know, there was a time where there wasn't all these lawsuits and people saying,
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oh, I'm going to blow you up on social media if they don't like you.
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Like, that's just not how shit was handled back then.
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You know, if you fucked with someone, you got dealt with.
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And that was the way it was up until even in the 80s, you know, where it was pretty
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And if you fucking violate it, you're in trouble.
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And what's really interesting to me about that is that, you know, because I know...
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But I'm saying, like, you might end up with a baseball bat to your fucking dome in your
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I think, and again, you know, it's obviously clearly we're not glorifying the mob or organized
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But I think what's really interesting about this movie and the culture that it portrays
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is that you have people doing some pretty horrible things, but there is sort of a code
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You know, a code of honor that you don't break.
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Like, there's an integrity involved, keeping your promises.
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Um, you know, handshake, that sort of thing, being honest with each other.
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So it's kind of weird because, you know, you think about the different things that, you
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know, like organized crime or you think about even in some of the gangs, even in the middle
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of all of that stuff that we would not agree with, there's some sort of note of honor.
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It's just a fascinating aspect of human life, you know, that you could have a bunch of people
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Well, not everything that they were doing was bad.
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Dude, I think it's biblical if you want to really talk about it because what it is, is,
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you know, and people are going to be like, what the fuck do you talk?
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Let me, let me fucking explain here, Jesus, before I start, before you start getting pissed
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No, I'm talking to everybody else who's going to be like, all right.
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And when you violate that code, bad things happen to you.
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It's a set of ideals, a set of beliefs, of rules, so to speak, that are imposed upon a
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Now, people are going to say, well, why the fuck are you comparing the Bible to the mob?
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So we're talking about, you know, a code that is enforced by the threat of bad shit.
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The reason we have so much disorder in society right now is because there's no fucking fear
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You know, when we get someone who commits one of these school shootings or one of these
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mass murders, the motherfucker may not even go to fucking death row.
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Dude, if you want order, man, you got to fucking take that motherfucker.
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You got to make sure he's the right motherfucker.
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But when you know that he is, you got a film of this dude pulling the trigger or whatever
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You know, due process, make sure it's the right guy.
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But if you've got hard proof that someone did something, they need to be made an example
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of so that the rest of the people don't think that they're because what's happening now is
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people think that if they get caught doing something that it's the worst that's going
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to happen to them is they're going to go to some country club bullshit prison and, you
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That's not enough fear to keep people in check.
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You know, do-gooders want to argue this shit and say, oh, well, what if he did this or
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and he was abused as a child or he was under duress or he had PT, the motherfucker hurt
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this person or did that person or did this or that.
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You know, we fucking argue every day about, oh, how do we stop DWIs?
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Put a fucking law in place and you get caught driving drunk.
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Then the cab companies, the economy, and all the shit that supports that lifestyle would
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Because none of the lawyers will vote for it because they make all their money defending
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So this is another, you know, this is what we talked about in the last episode where we
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have these ideals and these systems in play that don't serve society, but everybody just
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So I think the way things were run back then is a very relevant topic to dive into in terms
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And if they did do bad shit, guess what happened?
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Kids get in a fist fight in a fucking school parking lot and they call the fucking cops.
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Like, I'm not some violent fucking savage, but like, you got to have a way to keep people
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You got all these criminals running around doing crazy ass shit because there's no fucking
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fear of what's going to happen to them whenever they get caught.
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Because you have all these fucking ultra fucking super liberal motherfuckers who are like sympathizing
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And before you raise your voice and say, oh, you're fucked up, dude, I'm a victim of violent
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But I'm going to tell you right now, the dude who fucking stabbed me in the face, he
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He was there was charges that were waiting to be pressed on him for him almost killing
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another man with a baseball bat a few weeks beforehand.
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What if they had actually fucking enforced those charges and took care of that instead
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of it being like, oh, well, we're not sure if this is worth blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Dude, my life will be and I'm glad they did it because I'm glad it happened.
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But the point is, there's lots of situations where somebody like me doesn't survive because
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What I hear you saying, too, not that this was your main point, but maybe it was, is that
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historically we've always been a nation of laws.
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And we've been a nation where if you do this, this is what's going to result.
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If you break the law, this is what's going to happen.
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And I think there's no question like, well, particularly in the Old Testament, there's a thing called
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the Lex Talionis, which is basically modern translation would be the law of reciprocity,
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which is that if you kill somebody, the equitable justice for that is that that person gets killed.
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You know, like, in other words, you know, the eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.
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What a lot of people don't realize is that that is not a prescription for vengeance.
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That's a prescription for if you take somebody's eye out, the appropriate response is you get your eye out.
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Like, right, it was meant to be, in that original system in the Old Testament, it was meant to be a source of justice.
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But there's no question that there's a spiritual principle, I mean, that's reaffirmed in the New Testament,
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which is whatsoever a man reaps, so also shall he sow.
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So there's a, and what I think, what I feel like you're saying now is that we've gotten to a point
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where people want to break laws, whether it be legal, moral, ethical, whatever, and get out of the consequences.
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I don't know what people want, but I know this.
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I know that if you're a criminal and you know that if you fucking carjack someone and kill them,
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that there's a chance that you could be dead in 40 days, they fucking stop doing it.
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People don't want to deal with the consequences of their actions.
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So that's something I can respect about the way they did back then.
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Well, and on that level, though, like I said, it goes back to what we're saying.
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Like, here you have a—it's just a really complicated thing.
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You have this movie that's portraying these relationships within this organized crime syndicate,
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and they are not—on many levels, they are not good people, and they are not doing good things.
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But, man, there is virtue at different aspects in their relationship.
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And I tell you what, what I liked, and I'm curious about what you have to say,
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the themes that I thought that were really interesting in this movie were the themes of friendship and loyalty.
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Dude, before you even say that, I was just thinking.
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I saw a clip that was forwarded to me by a friend of mine who is a New York City cop, one of my best friends.
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Sends me a clip of a person—this is a news report—the person had went—this guy had went in to rob a dollar store with a gun.
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And before he was able to get the money, the clerk, who was legally carrying a weapon, shot and killed this person.
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Then, on the news, they show this person's family who got killed, and they're saying,
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he didn't deserve to get killed, he didn't blah, blah, blah.
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That's the problem I'm talking about with society.
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Motherfucker, how the fuck can you say that someone who walks into a store,
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pulls out a gun, sticks it in someone's face, and that person then defends themselves and kills this person,
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And if you don't think so, you're fucking delusional.
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We cannot have people running around doing this shit, terrorizing regular folks,
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That is not—and what we have now is we have a situation in our society
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where there is a group of people who look at the one exception to the rule, right?
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Like, they'll pull—like, right now, I can already imagine what they're saying.
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Well, what about in 1972, when prisoner number 4776725, we found out that we executed them wrongly?
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Well, you should have done your fucking homework better then.
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But that doesn't mean that we make the rest of society suffer because we made a mistake back in 1970.
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Everybody's saying it's a tragedy if somebody's wrongly accused.
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But don't fucking alter the game plan because you made one mistake.
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Put systems in place to prevent that from happening.
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I'm pretty fucking sure it doesn't take 15 years for someone to figure out if they actually did these crimes or not.
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Let's shorten that 15-year window into maybe it's not 40 days.
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But let's make it short enough to where when people are pulling a gun out of their pocket to stick it in someone's face,
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they're aware enough to know, well, this could be the end of my life in a very short time if I do this.
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But we have too many people out there that sympathize with people and somehow justify their behavior
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because they've had zero taste of this in their sheltered little fucking fairytale life.
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We got Susie Homemaker who's been raised in white upper middle class America
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who has never experienced any real hardship or had any run-ins with anything real
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out in the fucking street picketing for this motherfucker's rights.
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I'm only the victim of a fucking attempted murder.
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No, but again, I hear what you're saying and it goes down to we're living in a society
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that increasingly does not want to be held accountable.
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I deserve to have this sort of life because I was born.
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Some people are so entitled they don't even know they're entitled.
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Like, I get all these people all the time who are hitting me up and they're saying,
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You know, a lot of the people pointing their finger at millennials should be pointing the
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I think the millennials are actually starting to be the generation that's getting older.
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I don't know what they call the kids in high school these days.
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We're going to call them the fucking realist because that's what we're going to make them.
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But really, the dirty little secret that nobody wants to talk about, everybody's so down
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And I'm not quick to judge other parents, but I will say this.
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Both as a parent and as a guy that worked with kids for like 10 years as a youth pastor,
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are there good parents that end up having really crappy kids?
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Are there kids that end up being really great even though they had really crappy parents?
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But by and large, good parents produce good kids.
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And Vaughn, you can break every fucking thing down to general math, if we're being honest.
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Like, if you do certain things with your kids, your kids will turn out a certain way.
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If you do certain things in your career, your career will turn out a certain way.
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The problem is people live in the anomaly zone, so to speak, right?
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Like, they take the one circumstance or the one situation where things...
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Like, for example, I run into this all the time because of the entrepreneur fucking whatever you want to call what I've done for the last five years space.
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Doing the circus, I've sort of learned a few things about people.
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And one of the things I see that people do the most when it comes to financial success is they will point at that one situation where, like, the person did everything right.
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And they'll point to that anomaly and say, what about that guy?
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Outside of maybe, like, Tony Robbins and maybe Gary Vee...
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I've talked to more successful people than probably most people on the fucking planet.
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So I have a good reference of what the mentality is.
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And I could tell you, this mentality of pointing at the anomaly as if it's the actual truth is a terrible disease that infects people.
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They look at, you know, the one situation where, oh, that guy did everything right and his life still sucked.
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And then what they do, they do that to justify their own lack of action and their own thoughts and their own drive and their own unwillingness to do the actual work, right?
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So because if they admitted that, okay, that's an anomaly, that means they have to admit that the reason they are where they are is just because they didn't do what they were supposed to do, which is a painful thing to do, right?
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Absolutely. What you're talking about is a tried and true principle in the history of the American political scene up until recently, which is that all the major philosophers, all the major political theorists always said exceptions make bad policy.
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Most American people, and I can't speak for the people around the globe, but I'm saying most American people do that with their lives.
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But don't you think, Andy, we do this, I mean, people who don't really take time to think, we do this all the time in our own lives.
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Like we might, let's say you meet somebody and it's the only person from Poland you've ever met in your life, and that person ends up being a total jerk.
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Like, well, then you go around saying, man, all Polish people suck.
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I think they're some of the coolest motherfuckers I ever met.
00:31:48.340
Like, but dude, I don't buy into people's rules about things.
00:31:55.560
So, like, when someone says, oh, dude, first of all, they're going to tell you two, every time you go to France, they're going to tell you two fucking things.
00:32:02.380
They're going to tell you, one, the people are snotty and rude.
00:32:05.120
And then they're going to say, two, the girls have long armpit hair.
00:32:12.120
Well, I can tell you that both those things are fucking lies.
00:32:16.980
If I had accepted that, which is the stigma around France and their culture, I wouldn't have enjoyed myself the way I did every time I went there.
00:32:28.340
And how many people miss out on their life because of bullshit that Joey and Tony and Bobby from the old neighborhood tell them about life when those three motherfuckers don't know shit?
00:32:42.220
No, our whole American life these days is built on exceptions.
00:32:51.160
You take an example of, let's say, a college football player who basically is a good kid, consistently day in and day out, lives his life completely appropriately.
00:33:02.780
Oh, but then they find out that at some point during his eighth grade year, he used a racial slur on Twitter.
00:33:09.900
That's the exception, not the consistent tenor of his life.
00:33:23.420
Like none of the motherfuckers who fucking are out there destroying him have ever done anything that they regret at fucking 12 years old.
00:33:32.580
Now, I'm not excusing people's ignorance, obviously, but let's be fucking real.
00:33:37.880
Every motherfucker listening right now, all of you, have said shit in private that you would not say in public.
00:33:46.220
Because you know that you would be destroyed for it.
00:33:48.740
I've never jumped on someone's bandwagon to tear someone down no matter what the fuck they did because I know that, you know what, I'd be a hypocrite if I did that because I've done shit when I was younger that I was embarrassed of.
00:34:02.040
I've done shit when I'm older that I was embarrassed of.
00:34:07.800
And sometimes it's things that you don't like and don't understand.
00:34:12.180
But what you should understand is that, dude, everybody's growing, everybody's learning, and if you want people to actually get better, stop trying to destroy them for every fucking mistake they make.
00:34:23.380
Like, dude, I cannot stand these motherfuckers on social media who make a name for themselves by just calling everybody out.
00:34:35.080
That's the weakest shit I've ever fucking heard in my life.
00:34:37.620
And by the way, when you do that shit, let me tell you something.
00:34:40.400
Eventually, someone's going to do it to you, and it's going to be a thousand times worse.
00:34:48.440
Dude, you know, I believe that karma is a real thing.
00:34:51.880
I'm not a Buddhist or, you know, anything like that.
00:34:55.080
But I have seen in my life too much evidence to believe that it doesn't exist.
00:35:07.600
This is exactly what I was talking about a minute ago.
00:35:12.020
You may not be a super billionaire, and you may not be, but you're going to have a decent life.
00:35:29.280
I guess I would tweak that and just say—well, no, let me put it this way.
00:35:33.760
If you—I mean, one of the reasons that I am a Christian and I believe in the Bible is that I believe that the principles in the Bible work.
00:35:43.000
A lot of the things they talk about in the Ten Commandments.
00:35:44.780
If you follow those, you form a character that ends up contributing to your overall success in life.
00:35:52.160
The only thing I would say, and I'm not trying to be an asterisk hole, is that I do think that the mystery of the universe is sometimes good things happen to crappy people, and sometimes bad things happen to good people.
00:36:05.920
I am not saying that bad things don't happen to great people, because they do.
00:36:12.660
I'm saying, generally, people who are good and attempt to do what's right generally have much, much, much less bad happen to them than people who don't do that.
00:36:32.600
I mean, again, going back to basic principles that, not just in the Bible, but that are generally held by all religions, basic codes of morality, if you operate like that, again, you form virtue, you form character, and it guides your actions, and hopefully you're not creating problems for yourself.
00:36:51.740
You're living life the way that was meant to be lived.
00:36:59.060
And people do bad things, then problems appear, and then they look at God, and they say, why do you hate me?
00:37:10.440
Like, do a little bit better, and a little bit better shit's going to happen to you.
00:37:13.300
Do a lot better, and your life isn't going to turn around in one day.
00:37:17.360
We're talking about, but in six months or a year, fuck, I've seen it happen.
00:37:23.160
I have seen people completely transform their lives.
00:37:25.700
Dude, I've seen people who were multi-multi-millionaires, kicking ass and everything, not living really that good, lose everything, change their life around, and come back even better.
00:37:38.820
So, I can't, you could point out all the little exceptions to that that you want to, but you're not going to convince me that karma isn't real.
00:37:52.260
So, as you're talking, I'm just thinking about going back to the movie.
00:37:58.620
You know, we talked about how the theme is that your actions have consequences.
00:38:05.620
And then you, and then we sort of transitioned into just this discussion that, you know, the media, popular culture, we want to treat people like if they do something wrong, that just defines them.
00:38:19.200
Like, I use the example of the kid in the college football team or whatever.
00:38:24.360
But, what I love about this movie is that it really does show that human beings are pretty complex creatures.
00:38:31.780
Like, all of us have a really good quality to ourselves, but I think we all have demons, too.
00:38:39.160
And I think that's what I really liked about this movie is that, you know, sometimes when movies were made in the old days, you had the guy with the white hat, you had the black hat.
00:38:49.760
And I definitely believe in right and wrong, and I believe in good and evil.
00:38:52.980
But the reality is that sometimes the guy with the black hat was just presented in a way that he just wasn't human at all.
00:39:03.940
And what I love about this movie is that it just shows the complexity of human beings, whereas you have these gangsters.
00:39:08.940
But, man, like, the scene, some of the scenes where Robert De Niro's character has to, you know, kill somebody.
00:39:16.480
And you could tell, like, he's wrestling with it.
00:39:28.800
And sometimes when people are actively doing the wrong thing, they know it.
00:39:33.160
They know they're doing the wrong thing, and it creates a tension in their heart.
00:39:36.200
And I tell you, one of my favorite scenes, and this isn't really, like, a spoiler, but one of my favorite scenes is when, so, Russ Buffalino is basically the mentor of Robert De Niro's character, Frank Sheeran.
00:39:49.320
And on Frank's birthday, Russ gives him a ring, and there's this moment of friendship between them where Russ is basically saying, there's only really three rings like this that exist in the world, and I'm giving you one of them.
00:40:01.780
And you could tell there's this, like, fatherly, I don't know, it's really, like, for a man.
00:40:13.580
Because sometimes when people work to make you a real part of something, they're going to ask you to do something real hard to earn it.
00:40:21.020
But, no, but it just—it's just a reminder that, like, you know, like you said, you're not in a hurry to pile on to people who make mistakes.
00:40:32.140
The older I get—listen, there are politicians that I can't stand.
00:40:37.320
There are sports figures that I don't agree with their politics or I don't agree with their worldview.
00:40:42.740
There are any number of people that I don't agree with and that drive me nuts.
00:40:47.120
But the older I get, dude, the more I realize, man, nobody's all bad.
00:40:53.220
If you find yourself as part of one of these angry mobs running around, it's a pretty good indication that you're a sheep.
00:41:02.320
Like, if you find yourself in the middle of a fucking, you know, torch and pitchforks and we're fucking getting them, let's go get them.
00:41:09.780
If you find yourself in that and you're, like, commenting on people's shit with that and you've got that mob mentality, you're a sheep.
00:41:17.600
Now, I'm not saying there isn't times where people are wrong and you're going to say they're wrong, but just to be in it, to be in it, you're fucking sheep.
00:41:27.900
I agree, but it's kind of the paradox of what it means to be human.
00:41:36.160
Well, I mean, a perfect example, we've already talked about it, I think, maybe we never talked about this, but that big flap recently where Ellen went to a game with George W. Bush and people are like, ah, I can't believe that Ellen's friend with George W. Bush and George W. Bush is friends with Ellen.
00:41:50.960
And they're going crazy and, like, all the, like, really radical gay people are like, he's a conservative Republican.
00:41:57.900
And, of course, all the radical Christian conservatives are like, George, how could you be friends with a lesbian?
00:42:08.820
You honestly don't think that we can recognize the differences that we have?
00:42:18.780
You know, just because you accept someone for who they are doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they do or say.
00:42:26.600
You know, we have this thing in society right now where, like, if you don't agree with the way someone lives, you've got to hate them.
00:42:34.660
Like, there's a lot of people I'm friends with where I don't agree with everything they do.
00:42:41.920
They're actually the most interesting friends I have because, you know what, we have real conversations.
00:42:47.740
Like, how much are you missing out on in life by just living inside your own little fucking bunker of judgment?
00:42:57.200
What you're really secretly saying is that deep down, I'm not really certain about my beliefs enough that I want to get around people that might challenge them.
00:43:06.900
They're saying, I'm not secure and confident that what I believe is actually true, so I'm just going to surround myself with everybody who agrees with me.
00:43:19.740
Look, I mean, unless it's under the context of comedy, you really can't say anything anymore without people getting pissed.
00:43:29.520
Jerry Seinfeld said that he was no longer going to go to college campuses because people were so—
00:43:34.660
He can't say anything without people getting bent out of shape.
00:43:37.460
Those people are going to have a hard time making it in real world.
00:43:41.660
You're going to have to work with fucking black people.
00:43:43.520
You're going to have to work with white people.
00:43:46.420
You're going to have to work with fucking trans people.
00:43:49.520
You're going to have to work with all different kinds of people.
00:43:52.900
And if you can't tolerate that, then you're fucked because that's reality.
00:43:58.280
Like, dude, there is a lot of people in my network that don't necessarily—like, they don't necessarily share my exact same beliefs about the world, right?
00:44:16.120
I don't—like, dude, I just wish people were more able to have real discussions without having to attack other people.
00:44:25.760
You know, that's a big thing on social media culture, right?
00:44:28.660
Like, it's not—how many people do you see comment like this?
00:44:33.080
Hey, man, I see what you're trying to say, but I always kind of thought of it like this.
00:44:54.200
Like, we have this culture now that can't even communicate on a regular level.
00:45:06.600
And like, how boring would it fucking be if everybody shared the same beliefs?
00:45:24.440
Because you're going to have those two fucking drunk motherfuckers that think they know everything
00:45:29.000
about everything, pushing their shit onto you the whole time.
00:45:38.000
Because I don't want to go out and deal with those two motherfuckers who are going to drink...
00:45:43.580
Dude, it's Susie Mom Minivan, the person I'm talking about here.
00:45:46.420
They're going to drink a gallon of fucking wine, and then they're going to tell you all
00:45:49.680
about the real world when they haven't done fucking shit.
00:45:54.840
I don't want to hear your fucking point of view.
00:45:58.220
The other thing that they do is that they try to find...
00:46:02.240
Like, if you're saying something that challenges them and challenges the way they think...
00:46:09.100
I'm telling you because I've dealt with this a lot.
00:46:13.940
They'll try to find something about you that they find objectionable so that they can therefore
00:46:26.380
When I fucking write children's books, I don't have any kids.
00:46:29.420
So people say, who the fuck do you think you are?
00:46:33.440
I've raised more kids than you'll ever fucking raise.
00:46:35.620
Because I've raised thousands of fucking 17 to 20-year-old kids inside my company.
00:46:45.220
I have a pretty good perspective on how the fuck you're doing things.
00:46:49.040
And by the way, you're the reason I don't have any kids.
00:46:51.740
Because I don't want to have to spend all my time in the fucking...
00:46:55.900
The fucking carpool line talking to you about the neighborhood fucking bull...
00:47:06.800
Oh, Andy, you think you're better than everybody.
00:47:09.940
I just don't want to talk to your fucking stupid ass.
00:47:12.980
Well, I saw some girl railing on social media the other day about Plato, you know, the philosopher Plato, whose writings...
00:47:28.540
So many of his writings are like foundational to the ideals of Western culture and government and philosophy and all this.
00:47:40.340
Because in one passage, he said that a man should rule over a woman.
00:47:52.860
But I did a little research, and that's what's happening.
00:47:56.060
On college campuses, you have feminist professors who are basically saying, oh, Plato's a misogynist.
00:48:01.560
We can't listen to anything he said because he hated women.
00:48:04.960
I don't understand the whole feminist thing, to be completely honest.
00:48:08.920
I've tried to ask about it, and the responses I get are so...
00:48:13.580
I can't grasp it because they always say the same thing.
00:48:41.680
I'm picking on the left because the left is responsible for this.
00:48:45.080
But it's like, the university professors are the talking heads.
00:48:49.220
They find out that, like, one of our presidents, you know, owned slaves.
00:48:54.220
Or one of them was, you know, fill in the blank.
00:48:58.960
And so suddenly, suddenly, we say, because of that, everything about this person is suspect.
00:49:05.660
Everything about this person should be rejected.
00:49:20.100
Then he went on and fucking won the Civil War for the North, which freed all slaves.
00:49:28.220
Dude, every time someone hears that, they go on Wikipedia and they say,
00:49:38.280
Like, sometimes people do shit and they realize, holy fuck, this isn't a good idea.
00:49:42.500
And here's what the even further point is, sometimes you got to do that shit that's not
00:49:50.620
Like, dude, people, I don't even fucking get this line of thinking.
00:49:55.140
Or, sometimes you're just part of a time period or society where people just didn't know.
00:50:01.500
Well, I'm just saying, like, should you fucking discount everything else the man did?
00:50:15.240
Like, how can you look at someone and say, this dude owned slaves in his 20s, then he
00:50:25.220
How do you know that he just wasn't brought up to fucking think that and then had a realization
00:50:31.920
And then decided to do good with it, which is exactly what the fuck happened.
00:50:35.800
Dude, this is what's so weird about modern society.
00:50:40.860
And it happens on the far right with really, really fundamentalist Christian conservatives.
00:50:46.520
And it also happens on the far left with the social justice warriors.
00:50:51.100
And it happens on all sorts of different segments of society where people have very, very strong
00:50:57.480
They are so myopic in how they see the world that they see everything through their cause
00:51:02.820
and they look at some person and they say, that person disagrees with something I believe.
00:51:09.520
And they aren't, I hate this because it's an overused phrase, but they aren't self-aware
00:51:18.720
I could, I could do, be doing things that really in hindsight are really horrible things.
00:51:23.020
They don't have the humility to, to, to say to themselves, you know what, but what it
00:51:29.920
And it's ironic because it happens, the social justice warriors.
00:51:34.720
Oh, God opposes, God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.
00:51:46.760
And, and by the way, cause I think it's important to make this, this statement because people,
00:51:50.760
and I know you weren't doing it, but people do this.
00:51:52.420
People take that, that passage in scripture and they, they then conclude that you can
00:52:02.920
You just can't do it in a way that says, I condemn you, you're worthless, you're a piece
00:52:08.280
You can't bury people's lives because they made a fucking mistake.
00:52:13.860
That isn't like, dude, look, I know that's contradictory to what I'm saying about like when someone
00:52:20.780
I believe in that, but I also believe that there's very few mistakes that should be life
00:52:28.800
They want to, they want to take the exception to someone's life and they want to fucking
00:52:38.000
And that's, and that, you know, dude, I have people here that work in my building who have
00:52:50.420
Because I believe that there's fucking, why should someone not be able to work because
00:52:56.080
they made a fucking mistake when they were 20 years old?
00:53:06.800
He deserves a second chance if he's a good person, you know?
00:53:10.360
And too many people are not willing to do that.
00:53:12.720
Like, dude, you know how hard it is for a fucking felon to get a job?
00:53:21.220
But some of these dudes just made stupid mistakes, man.
00:53:25.040
Not all of these guys are like hardened criminals that like ran a fucking cartel and shit.
00:53:30.440
And like, it's just, dude, we just need a little bit more.
00:53:34.360
We just need to step back as a society and say, hey, man, all right.
00:53:43.420
Like, would I want my shit to be posted on social media like that?
00:53:50.900
Like, if I don't agree with something you said or something you do, I'm going to respectfully address it.
00:53:56.320
It's interesting because what I feel like this conversation is saying is that we need to all as a society learn how and when to hold people accountable
00:54:07.960
Like, you know, like that's a tension that's kind of hard.
00:54:18.720
It takes a little bit of finesse to negotiate those things and people don't understand that.
00:54:27.000
But when they look inside their own lives at their own actions, very few of your own actions or thoughts are yes or no.
00:54:33.120
There's a lot of different things in between that go into those things and people forget that.
00:54:37.820
And ultimately, yes, I agree that people should be in control of their bodies and their minds.
00:54:45.280
And so what we're talking about here is really just lack of awareness on fucking everybody.
00:54:59.500
The more and more I talk to people, the more and more people are just so sick of this shit that we're getting fed and getting forced down our throats.
00:55:10.500
There's not like this crazy fucking tension between everybody.
00:55:16.220
It's fake shit they want you to believe so that you watch.
00:55:26.420
And it's making, I don't know, it's making people feel like they're really suffocating.
00:55:33.440
Because, like, now you can't even express yourself unless you're expressing yourself under a certain narrative that fits the media's narrative.
00:55:42.940
And if you don't express yourself in that narrative, then all of a sudden you're the devil.
00:55:47.060
And they're going to use their power to flex on you.
00:55:49.500
And this goes from traditional media, social media.
00:55:58.700
It's happened to me before on social where people have, you know, I said something on the podcast, the old podcast, or I said something in a status or a story.
00:56:07.860
And then, you know, somebody takes it to their little focus group way over here.
00:56:11.980
And then they get all their friends to come over and fucking trap.
00:56:21.340
I think more and more people are just going to say, like, listen, if people are going to get up in arms about everything, then I'm not going to really worry about what I say.
00:56:33.220
Well, that's a big part of why we're even doing this show.
00:56:35.960
Because when we were doing the old show under the business context, I would say certain things and I'd have people fucking hit me up and be like, well, I don't really agree that that's how you should be living.
00:56:46.220
I don't give a fuck how you think I should be living.
00:56:55.100
And in business, people do this shit where they try to leverage you.
00:57:08.480
But I'm not a role model for your fucking kids, man.
00:57:11.760
I might write some kids books because I have some shit to say, but that doesn't mean they should be doing everything I fucking do and I wouldn't want them to.
00:57:21.920
Yes, I could improve the way I talk if I want to.
00:57:24.200
When I'm around your mother and your grandmother, I'll keep my mouth clean.
00:57:32.540
And any motherfucker that'll tell you in real life, that's how I am.
00:57:41.900
Well, it's people that don't understand that there's always a context to things.
00:57:45.680
If somebody were to ask me, do you believe in the Bible?
00:57:48.340
But there's stories in the Bible I'm not going to read my kids right now because they're not old enough for it.
00:57:55.480
Dude, when I was like old enough, when I learned how to read, I went right to Revelations.
00:58:00.680
But I mean, there's some pretty graphic stories in the Old Testament in particular.
00:58:07.320
You know when they're going across the bridge in the car and one of the dudes is like, it's Revelations when the moon turns to blood.
00:58:16.600
And I'm like, damn, I got to read about this shit.
00:58:20.260
That was the first thing I ever read in the Bible.
00:58:26.240
But fun fact that most pastors know, if you really want to draw a crowd, preach on Revolution.
00:58:31.260
Because everybody wants to come listen to what Revolution has to say.
00:58:34.940
It's like the craziest fucking zombie movie ever.
00:58:47.900
Let's talk about, without giving away too much, let's talk about the ending of that movie.
00:58:57.700
Well, you had two guys that did some pretty horrible things.
00:59:02.360
And I think the implication is that they ended okay.
00:59:09.060
Kind of made their peace with God type of thing.
00:59:25.140
And you have to know who you are and what you're willing to do and not do.
00:59:29.020
And at the end of the day, if you've lived a life that's congruent with those, and it's not necessarily, it doesn't necessarily have to be society's rules.
00:59:42.880
Now, if you go out and break the law, you're going to have to pay the consequences.
00:59:46.640
But there's lots of people that don't even understand the idea of having a value system drive their actions.
01:00:00.000
They're just kind of running around like crazy.
01:00:04.760
The way I took the end was like, hey, man, this dude lived his code.
01:00:09.100
He lived what was, it may not have been the police's code.
01:00:18.660
And at the end, I think that's why he found peace.
01:00:22.880
Like, in society right now, living true to yourself.
01:00:29.560
Well, I think in the movie, there's definitely.
01:00:35.580
You know why I got tired of doing the whole podcast?
01:00:37.380
Because I felt like I wasn't being true to myself.
01:00:40.660
I felt, every time I sat down, I felt like I was saying things I already said.
01:00:46.600
I felt like I was doing it for, really, my own ego at that point.
01:00:51.900
If I had continued to do it, it definitely would have been that.
01:00:59.680
What's important is I feel the need to contribute.
01:01:02.940
Now, once I don't contribute anymore, then I will pull myself out of that game.
01:01:06.740
So, I feel like I contributed as much as I could in that space.
01:01:14.880
So, when I'm sitting here talking as Andy, not as the MFCEO, I'm happier.
01:01:21.840
Even though, I know, for sure, there's going to be a lot more people that are like, fuck you, Andy, because of the things that we're talking about.
01:01:34.980
I guess I, you know, I feel like at the end of the movie, there was some recognition on the part of both of those guys that they hadn't done everything right.
01:01:51.480
But I think that's part of the reason I think that they were at peace at the end, that they just kind of came to the conclusion that they realized that they had done some wrong.
01:02:03.540
But I think what I thought, here's where my mind went, is that I've met some people over the course of my life who their whole life, you know, from the standards of, you know, religion or whatever, they would say that they did everything right.
01:02:22.200
They, you know, were squeaky clean little people and they were, you know, button-up shirts and sweater vests and had their hair parted on the side and they just never did anything wrong.
01:02:30.640
And I feel like those kinds of people look at guys like that and they go, wait a minute.
01:02:45.060
They shouldn't end their life in peace like that.
01:02:47.220
They shouldn't, they shouldn't be, they should, they should be in jail, like rotting away.
01:02:51.200
They should be killed by firing squad or whatever.
01:02:53.900
And what I, what I say is I say, no, I, I think God is really merciful.
01:03:01.760
That's the message I like to communicate with my life is that when we recognize that, when we humble ourselves and when we recognize that we haven't done anything, everything right,
01:03:10.200
there's forgiveness and there's redemption and that's kind of what I saw at the end there is I saw those guys go, yeah, I kind of royally screwed up.
01:03:20.540
Well, don't you think that setting yourself up against a standard that is unachievable in terms of quote unquote holiness is a reflection of an inflated ego in the first place?
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I think so. I think the people that, I think the people that are really, we'll use the word holiness, I think the people who are really holy.
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Yeah, no, no, but I think, I think there's a difference between people, people who seek to be quote unquote holy just because they want to look good to other people.
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And they want, and then there's the people who seek to cultivate virtue and holiness in their life simply because they love God and they love other people.
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You know, I mean, that's, that's really what the scripture says.
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Jesus was asked, what's the greatest commandment?
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He says, love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.
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And so the people who are truly holy are the ones who are loving and, and they're motivated by love.
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They're not motivated just to look good to other people.
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Well, and you know what I'm saying, or to feel good about themselves.
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You can tell the difference because the people who are trying to look good are the people who are also judging most people for not being as holy as them.
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They're the ones sliding into my DMs telling me what, that's like that screenshot I shared with you last week where I got, you know, like the guy's so fucking stupid.
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He doesn't realize that the whole MFCEO project is based around fucking the Bible.
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Well, I'm guessing he, yeah, he made some assumptions about you.
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You know what the, what the fuck is a 10 commandment?
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Who the fuck are you to be in my DMs telling me how much I do?
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Like he, he was like, well, what do you do for this person?
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And it's like, that's really none of your business.
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You know, because a real, a real person, they'll accept you.
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You know, Jesus fucking hung out with prostitutes, bro.
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Like, you know, he hung out with people who were criminals.
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What he did was he tried to show them through his own life a different way.
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What the Bible and what those, that set of values is supposed to be.
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It's much easier to point your finger and say, look at, look at you.
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And listen, dude, I mean, it's, it's, again, you know, way back when we started the other
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podcast, which we're not going to talk about the other podcast a lot, just like you don't
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But, uh, but way back when we first started, you know, you were the one who started calling
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Um, I wasn't going to make a big deal about it mostly because dude, I'm, I'm, I've always
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been kind of really sober minded and kind of scared about holding myself up as some
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And it's because the older I get, the more I, the more I understand, like I, frankly,
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I don't get people who spend all their time pointing fingers at other people because I'm
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like, I know I am so aware of my own shortcomings and my own failures.
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Like, by the way, that's not to say, I do believe there is a place for calling people
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And I think there's a, there's a place to do it, but you're right.
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Instead of saying, explain yourself to me, like you're the fucking inquisition.
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How about, Hey man, I really appreciate what you're doing.
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Have you ever thought about these and these things or what's your take on that?
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Like, isn't that a more reasonable way to communicate?
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Then I'm saying, and then instead of me saying, instead of me screenshotting it, sending all
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my friends and saying, look at this dumb motherfucker.
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I'm actually responding back and saying, well, you know what, brother?
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By the way, you're not going to be surprised to know that if you, if you looked at the
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four gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and you, and you highlighted all the verses
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No, that's in Paul's letter to the Philippians.
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So, you don't want one of them Scubula sandwiches?
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There's another great, well, we won't get off on that tangent.
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No, but if you go through the Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
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you highlight all the times that Jesus actually asked people questions.
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Like, that's, I think, the key of anybody who really wants to influence
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Doesn't mean that there won't be a time for you to drop the truth on them,
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You've got to figure out where they're coming from,
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because how can you even talk to people if you don't know where they're coming from?
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Well, I think people, even, like, I could tell you for me,
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I'm just, because I'm me, and I can only speak for me.
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But I could tell you that lots of people completely misunderstand the context of what I'm about.
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They think, like, when I post shit, I'm doing it to flex.
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But the truth is, is that I'm actually trying to show people
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that a stupid motherfucker like myself can actually build something kind of cool
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Like, I feel like people just don't, I guess you said it, man.
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That little clown circus in the entrepreneur space is full of that shit.
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It's just an ego fest is what it's turned into.
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You know, and who could speak the most confusing shit to people that makes them ask questions
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You know, hey, let me confuse people so I can get more engagement on my post.
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Let me say what people, let me say what people are hot on right now so I can get more engagement
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You got motherfuckers who have never even built something from zero telling everybody how they
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should do it when they don't even fucking know.
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Well, this is going to be fun, especially since, you know, I think the other thing that,
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that I like about the way that we do things, I don't think the people that you just referred
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to, the circus, when they make a genuine bona fide mistake, they don't, they don't admit
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Oh, dude, it's because their eagles are too big.
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And I remember about a year ago, I said something offhand in the podcast, and it was factually
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And I think they expected me to like dig in and defend.
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Dude, I had a dude, I had a dude, I had a guy we both know reach out to me yesterday and
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DMs and he said, hey man, I watched your story.
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And at the end of it, I thought about it for a minute and I just responded back.
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Like, oh no, you want to fuck like, dude, I'll give you a little hint guys.
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You want to, this was a, this was a genuine person who I really appreciate their feedback,
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Like dude, you want people to fucking stop hating on you or talking shit to you.
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Your aunt, your aunt Linda at fucking Christmas time telling you you're a dumb ass for starting
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Then hand her a fucking glass of wine and tell her to shut the fuck up.
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Well, I don't know if this is what you were referring to, but Alabama lost again.
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Well, they lost to LSU and then they lost to somebody else recently.
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So now everybody's, now everybody's going to be like, Nick Saban.
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Dude, how many of these dumb fucking athletic directors out there are firing coaches because
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they lost one or two games and it's like, bro, you don't realize what you have.
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And you just trade him in for a fucking donkey.
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You know, because you, because the press was putting pressure on you.
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I actually sort of have a longstanding appreciation and respect for the University of Nebraska,
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I forget when they fired Frank Solich for going nine and three.
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And literally, I mean, they had some good years under Bo Pelini for a little while, but
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So it's always interesting to some, you know, to your point, karma.
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I mean, to some extent, you know what people I'm sorry, you don't fire a nine and three
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Even if you're at a place like Nebraska, you don't.
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I mean, if you did something outside of the code of ethics or what you expect.
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We're entitled to fucking be undefeated every single year.
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I don't see that how that, you know, now if you have a coach who was undefeated for seven
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years in a row and then they went fucking, you know, two and fucking 11.
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We live in this highly emotional, crazy world that is just like.
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Like, if you don't do this, this is going to happen.
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People just make it so, so emotional and crazy.
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But hopefully people will continue to tune in and get a little break from the craziness by listening to us.
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Why don't you tell people what you got arrested for, you fucking wild animal?
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Well, I'm actually wearing, I'm currently wearing a cream colored.
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I'm wearing, I don't know if you would call this a turtleneck or not, but it's something
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This was back when I was a pastor and a police officer from the RCPD came to my door and said,
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And he said, I'm going to have to ask you to step outside.
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He said, sir, I have to place you under arrest.
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And apparently I looked terrified because I thought, you know-
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I thought I would have been falsely accused or something, but he said, hey, don't worry
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So how many bologna sandwiches did you get in jail?
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So dude, like when you were out in the yard, like what gang did you join?
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Well, so they took me down to the pen and I said, well, wait a minute.
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He said, yeah, you didn't pay it and this is a warrant sweep and so you have to come down
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Did you have to like take off your belt and your shoes and all that shit?
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No, I didn't have to put the orange jumper on, but I had to go through the whole, they
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And so I was taking all this stuff out of my pockets and I don't, you know, I had just
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I had all the guns and I had all the wads of cash and stuff.
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They're just like, oh, it's cool because you're-
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So the guy looks at me and he says, okay, name, and I said, name, and he goes, kind
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of looks, acts like he knows me, he goes, profession, and I said, pastor, and he burst
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But he goes, he goes, I thought that was you, Pastor Vaughn, and he goes, well, go start
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So I went in there literally for the whole afternoon, and I sat on a bench with the other
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offenders, and I literally sat there, and I was dressed in stonewashed jeans and a cream
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colored rib turtleneck from the gap, and I had to wait, because I was in a line, I had
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And there were these guys, and this guy next to me, I kid you not, this is exactly how it
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And I go, so I made something up, and I said, well, have you ever gone to those places where
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they have deep caverns, like Merrimack Caverns in Missouri?
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I thought you were going to say quarters, and you watch porn or something.
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No, no, I told him, I said, you know that place, Merrimack Cavern, where it has a deep
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I go, you know how they have those things that hang from the ceiling?
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Like, they're millions of years old, and they're like stalagmites or stalactites?
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He said, I rented from Enterprise Rental, and I returned it, but I returned it late.
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He's like, he says, I rented it, I returned it, but I returned it three months late.
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He goes, well, when I returned it, they wanted me to pay for those three months.
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My dad and everybody here, like a bunch of the dudes from work here.
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And we flew to Denver, and on the day that we were supposed to leave it, like blizzarded out.
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So I woke up in the morning, and I saw the weather, and it was like crazy snow for two days.
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And I fucking looked at everybody, and I'm like, hey, we had two Suburbans that we rented from Enterprise in Denver.
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We can either go to the airport and sit there for three days because it's going to be closed, or we're fucking driving back to St. Louis right now.
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And everybody was like, we're driving back to St. Louis right now, except my dad.
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And I'm like, all right, well, who else is going?
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So everybody else wanted to go, and he starts throwing a fit.
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I'm like, well, you better get in the car or you'll fucking stay here.
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I'm speeding because it's like just starting to snow.
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I'm trying to get through the snow until we get through it so we can not get caught in it, right?
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So I'm driving like 90, and then my buddy Scott is driving behind me at like, I don't know, like four or five car lengths behind me.
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So he had some weed on him that he bought at one of the weed stores there in Denver or wherever we were skiing, right?
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So we're fucking going through the Eisenhower Tunnel, and there's a cop.
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And I pass the cop, all right, and he's like looks up.
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And while he's like doing the seatbelt or whatever, Scott follows me.
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So the cop didn't realize that there was two different cars.
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So he goes and pulls Scott over thinking it was me that went by him because it was the same car.
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So Scott throws his fucking weed out the window, okay?
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So fucking the cop pulls Scott over, and I see that he got pulled over, but I went up the road a little bit.
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So the cop picks up the fucking weed and fucking brings it back to the window.
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Because it's fucking legal, you know what I'm saying?
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So then, dude, we fucking, the cop was cool, and I think he wrote him like a speeding ticket or something,
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So then we drove back to St. Louis in these cars that were from fucking Enterprise Airport in Denver.
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We drove them all the way to St. Louis and basically stole them from the Enterprise.
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We took them there, and I dropped them off at the Enterprise up here on Lindbergh.
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And my brother-in-law actually worked there, so I fucking called him, and I'm like, hey, bro, I did this thing.
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So, dude, he figured it out, and we had to pay like a couple grand or something to make it right.
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Sometimes you got to throw your weed out the window when it's legal.
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So I occasionally socially drink, but I don't drink too much.
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Well, I did, and I actually prove, I'm going to prove that at some point.
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I'm going to actually produce the evidence of the girl that was with me when I drank 31 shots.
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So prior to actually drinking on a regular basis at all, I was at the bar one time in Manhattan, Kansas, in Aggieville.
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And you guys are going to laugh at me, but when I first started experimenting with alcohol, I just drank the fruity girl drinks.
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But I only live like a couple of blocks away from home, so I thought, I think I'm fine.
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But this isn't impairing my ability, so no big deal.
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Sure enough, the cop pulls, you know, pulls behind me, pulls me over.
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I don't know what to do because literally at that point in my life, I'd hardly ever drank at all.
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So the guy pulls, the police officer comes to the door.
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And I say, okay, I know I'm not supposed to do this, but I think I've drank too much.
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And I just said, I promise you I never drink, but I hardly ever drink, and I drank too much, and I'm a pastor.
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And I said, and I just, I promise you, and I live real close.
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And I did everything that they tell you not to do, right?
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So the police officer says, well, let me see your license of registration.
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He walks up to me, and he says, don't you ever effing do anything like that again?
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And he goes, and by the way, that was a great sermon last week, Pastor.
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You just pull out the God card to get out of your own trouble, huh?
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So, like, when you get in trouble, you just say, well, I'm fucking, God's my boy.
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You know, or I could say, well, listen, as a minister, I'm just not bound by the laws
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Yeah, that probably wouldn't have worked either, but in any case.
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No, so I'm not encouraging drinking and driving for those people out there who think I am.
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But that was definitely at a time where I had no idea.
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I mean, you know, most people start having a drink when they're, what, 16, 17?
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I never took, I never had a drop of alcohol until I was probably 24, 25, yeah.
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Because, I mean, now you're just like this hardcore gangster.
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Yeah, people are going to think, I hardly ever drink.
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Dude, that scene in The Wolf of Wall Street, smoked crack would be, bro.
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I ran into a movie theater out and took my whole company.
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I think it's one of the funniest fucking movies I've ever seen in my life.
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But I'm going back, I'm kind of like you when it comes to alcohol these days.
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You know, for me, with battling the mental issues that I have to battle, with depression,
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things like that, I've just accepted that it's just not good for me.
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Because the three or four days after I drink, I feel really bad.
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But I'm more careful when I choose to indulge in the beautiful substance known as tequila.
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So, dude, what happens to you when you get fucked up, like, in your home?
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Every dude and every chick knows what the helicopter dance is.
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Well, maybe I don't know what you're referring to.
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Yeah, you know, like, whenever your dick's hanging out, and you, like, do it in a circle?
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Dave, you fucking know you're laughing, and Tyler's laughing, too.
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I ain't the only one that knows the helicopter.
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No, the truth is that I don't, I very rarely ever, well, I can't.
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You'd probably be able to fucking get airborne with that motherfucker.
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I can't tell you the last time I drank and got legitimately drunk.
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That was like four or five years ago when we were at Park City, Utah.
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So we're at the end of this factual storytelling.
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If you haven't connected with Andy already on social media, which some of our new guys
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So it's at Andy Frisella, A-N-D-Y-F-R-I-S-E-L-L-A.
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And I am at Vaughn Kohler, V-A-U-G-H-N-K-O-H-L-E-R.
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