REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 299. #75HARD vs Kyle "The Captain" Creek

00:00:00.000 What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realist, say goodbye to

00:00:20.900 the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality.

00:00:25.420 Guys, today we have full length episode.

00:00:30.200 I know you thought I was going to say cruise the internet or we were going to say some stuff

00:00:34.380 about Q and AF, but today I actually have got a good buddy of mine who you guys have

00:00:38.860 heard on the show before who has completed the 75 hard program and we're going to talk

00:00:44.980 about that.

00:00:45.620 We failed to talk about that last time he was in, but I wanted to get him back here and

00:00:50.700 really dig in to what he thinks of the program and what he experienced and so welcome to

00:00:58.780 the show again, my good buddy, the captain, Kyle Creek.

00:01:03.120 Thanks for having me back.

00:01:04.040 I was about ready to do DJ's intro.

00:01:05.700 Yeah.

00:01:06.260 I'm in his seat.

00:01:06.980 I was about ready to take over.

00:01:07.920 Oh, we could do it, dude.

00:01:08.800 Cruise the motherfucking internet.

00:01:10.020 There you go.

00:01:10.860 Yeah.

00:01:11.840 Let's just do it, man.

00:01:12.960 Hey, today we have Andy and Kyle.

00:01:18.780 Cruise the motherfucking internet.

00:01:20.320 All right.

00:01:20.660 That's what I'm talking about.

00:01:21.840 That's not that hard.

00:01:22.720 He acts like it's a big yellow.

00:01:23.680 You know what?

00:01:24.180 Every time he nails it, he acts like he accomplished something hard.

00:01:27.080 That's pretty easy.

00:01:28.120 That's a little bit of his artistic.

00:01:30.500 That's just how he likes to do things.

00:01:33.580 Yeah.

00:01:33.820 He, yeah.

00:01:37.320 DJ, you're fired.

00:01:38.500 Anyway, 75 hard, bro.

00:01:40.900 We didn't get to hit on it at all last time.

00:01:42.700 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:45.180 Before we get into it, how was your trip in?

00:01:48.540 It was good, man.

00:01:49.180 What's going on?

00:01:50.640 I'm in Miami right now.

00:01:51.940 Again, I've been traveling a lot for work.

00:01:53.720 I'm actually on day 22 of phase three of Live Hard.

00:01:57.180 Oh, there we go.

00:01:58.060 So I've been grinding away all across the country of where I travel.

00:02:01.660 And flight in was easy.

00:02:02.840 Like I talked about earlier, your airport just smells like breadsticks and barbecue sauce.

00:02:06.920 Yeah.

00:02:07.220 I think it's a lot harder to eat clean here than it is in Miami where everything's just fresh and good.

00:02:11.120 Yeah, plus, dude, we get like the worst weather.

00:02:13.380 We get the hot with the super humid hot swamp weather in the summer.

00:02:17.140 And then in the winter, we get fucking super cold and no snow and ice.

00:02:22.440 It's just bullshit.

00:02:23.360 Yeah, I was out running this morning.

00:02:24.500 Your humidity is similar to Florida, right?

00:02:26.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:27.160 Especially with that storm.

00:02:28.100 Now it's pretty nice, though.

00:02:29.300 Like, it's not, wait till it's like over 100 and it's like, you know what it's like.

00:02:34.280 Yeah.

00:02:34.520 Like, dude, it's fucking, not everybody's built for it.

00:02:37.780 I actually like it because like I sweat and I feel, it helps me feel healthy and clean.

00:02:42.820 But man, some people come here and they're like, how the fuck do you live here?

00:02:46.180 I'm like, I don't.

00:02:46.900 I'm the same way with Florida now.

00:02:48.240 Like, I miss the humidity when I'm out of it.

00:02:50.480 Because when I do like, you know, run or walk my dog in the morning, I like it to be humid.

00:02:54.420 Yeah, me too.

00:02:54.820 Take your shirt off, get really sweaty, and you feel like you've cleansed all the toxins out of your body.

00:02:59.100 That's how I feel.

00:02:59.860 You just feel sharp when you get back.

00:03:01.580 And then if you go straight into like a cold shower after that, like there's very few things that'll start your day better.

00:03:06.180 Yeah.

00:03:06.880 So, dude, what got you wanting to start 75 hard?

00:03:14.320 Honestly, I was pretty desperate at that point.

00:03:18.420 I can 100% attest to the fact that I did it solely for the mental aspect of it.

00:03:24.100 Everyone wants to get in good shape.

00:03:26.240 Like, that's kind of like a cool byproduct of it.

00:03:28.280 But I was at a point in my life where I was down in the dumps.

00:03:33.400 I've had, you know, occasional bouts of depression that lasted, you know, for a couple months at a time.

00:03:37.660 But coming into, you know, the post-COVID world, a lot of my contracts were in hospitality.

00:03:44.020 A lot of my identity was tied to my job as a creative director in the hotel world.

00:03:48.140 Most of those contracts dried up because no one was traveling.

00:03:50.400 And I was just left feeling like I had no purpose.

00:03:54.220 And that kind of ate away at me.

00:03:56.300 I was still trying to write stuff here and there.

00:03:58.560 And my relationship was on the rocks.

00:04:01.140 I wasn't being a good partner.

00:04:03.400 I left L.A. and moved to Vegas, which is kind of like where my career took off for me in Vegas.

00:04:08.360 So it was kind of like I did this big circle back to the beginning.

00:04:10.800 And I felt like I'd squandered all my success.

00:04:13.340 And I was just feeling really shitty about myself.

00:04:16.380 And you and I had been talking online for a while.

00:04:19.740 And I liked what you had to say.

00:04:21.460 A lot of my buddies, you know, reposted your stuff before that.

00:04:24.120 I had a buddy that did 75 hard.

00:04:26.040 And then I realized one day that I was like, I have to get out of this shit.

00:04:31.460 And it was when I found out I was going to have a kid.

00:04:35.140 And for the first few weeks of finding out I was going to be a dad, I wasn't ready for it.

00:04:38.800 And it kind of spiraled me even deeper into depression.

00:04:40.820 And I started drinking a lot again.

00:04:42.460 And I just realized I was going to completely fuck up my life and this kid's life if I didn't do something to get myself out of it.

00:04:50.320 And so it really was like a last-ditch effort to try and get back the confidence or get back to who I felt I was prior to the COVID, my career falling off.

00:05:02.440 And so it was very much desperation is what got me to try it.

00:05:07.800 Yeah, man.

00:05:08.760 I get that.

00:05:11.300 I feel like I'm going to cry right now just talking about it.

00:05:13.440 No, bro.

00:05:13.480 Listen, it's real.

00:05:14.740 It's real shit, too.

00:05:15.920 What you said about the lack of purpose during COVID, you know, I think that's something that really resonates with a lot of people because normal life was forced away from us.

00:05:25.100 And, you know, I think that's a big part of what's going on right now in the world is that, you know, you and I talk a lot, bro.

00:05:37.660 And what's really cool about having you here for me is that, like, I'm a fan of your shit.

00:05:42.080 So it's like, you know what I'm saying?

00:05:43.880 That's a good friendship when you can reciprocate those feelings for each other.

00:05:46.600 Sure, like, if you guys don't follow him, you should because he writes some of the best things and the most thought-provoking writing that there is out there right now for anybody in our era.

00:05:57.940 So it's really cool to hear that.

00:06:00.960 But, you know, I think that's something that a lot of people feel, but they don't know what to do, right?

00:06:09.600 Absolutely.

00:06:10.200 Yeah, like, they're like, fuck, dude.

00:06:12.160 I, I, I'm lost.

00:06:13.900 I, you know, it's the internal dialogue, right?

00:06:16.020 Like, you, we might all go through life because I was the same way, dude.

00:06:19.160 I was, I was going through life.

00:06:21.140 I'm successful.

00:06:22.260 I'm making money.

00:06:22.880 I'm doing good things.

00:06:24.580 But I wasn't living right.

00:06:26.100 You know what I'm saying?

00:06:26.720 Like, I was drinking all the time.

00:06:28.140 Uh, I was doing things that, that, you know, I wasn't proud of whenever I would wake up from being that person.

00:06:36.320 And like, it, it just, it's just a different life when you, when you move past all of that.

00:06:44.180 So 75 hard for me was, I wanted to prove to myself that I could do something that seemed impossible to me.

00:06:52.940 And it did.

00:06:53.580 I used to tell people all the time, I used to kind of brag about it saying, you know, I could never quit drinking.

00:06:58.140 I can never not drink, man.

00:06:59.440 I drink five nights a week.

00:07:00.500 It's just what I do.

00:07:01.460 Yeah.

00:07:01.680 And I prided myself on the fact that I could drink all the time and still perform at a fairly high level.

00:07:05.960 Me too.

00:07:06.400 And my job was encouraged.

00:07:07.680 I was a hospitality creative director.

00:07:09.200 I worked on a lot of bars and hotels.

00:07:10.700 Like drinking was kind of, I considered it, you know, almost like a superpower.

00:07:14.360 The fact that I could drink and go to meetings and handle my shit.

00:07:16.800 And so just the idea of giving up drinking, um, was, was seemed like impossible to me.

00:07:23.280 And I was like, man, if I can, I remember telling myself, if I said, if I can get through

00:07:27.140 this, I'm pretty sure I can get through any.

00:07:29.060 Yeah.

00:07:29.340 And that was like the mindset I had going into it.

00:07:32.100 Um, but I probably failed 75 hard.

00:07:34.860 I mean, actual count.

00:07:36.800 I probably failed eight times, failed seriously three times in the day 20 to 30 range.

00:07:42.480 And every time I was in the day 20 to 30 range and it was because I wanted to drink.

00:07:46.820 Yeah.

00:07:47.320 And it wasn't because I was craving alcohol.

00:07:49.660 It was because I didn't like the idea that some dude I didn't really know was controlling my life.

00:07:57.060 And so I'd get to like this cocky arrogance.

00:07:59.420 So I was like, you know what, who the fuck is this Andy guy to know my life?

00:08:01.980 He doesn't know my stress.

00:08:03.220 He doesn't know.

00:08:03.980 He doesn't know what I need to cope.

00:08:06.260 And I'd get these days where I was just so tense and angry.

00:08:09.020 I'd still be getting all my shit done.

00:08:10.280 But I was like, I just can't feel like this anymore.

00:08:11.740 I'm too mad.

00:08:12.600 Yeah.

00:08:12.880 I'm like, fuck it.

00:08:13.480 I'm going to go out with my friends.

00:08:14.520 Yeah.

00:08:14.880 So I'd want to just go out and do something to like relieve that stress.

00:08:18.540 And it was really just like I said, it was arrogance.

00:08:20.920 It was me feeling like I knew better than you or me feeling like I knew better in some program.

00:08:26.060 And also it was a little bit of that fear of I didn't really want to change who I was.

00:08:31.820 I didn't want to become like, I used to tell people, it's like my drinking ability is like a 401k.

00:08:36.820 I've been putting deposits in it for years.

00:08:38.740 That's how my tolerance is so high.

00:08:40.100 And I remember actually genuinely feeling like, dude, if I stop drinking, I'm going to become

00:08:43.940 a lightweight.

00:08:45.100 And it was something that like bothered me, which is so fucking ridiculous to think about.

00:08:50.300 But when your identities become tied to the guy who goes out and parties all the time,

00:08:54.580 it's hard to let go of that, bro.

00:08:56.620 I could completely relate to that.

00:08:59.300 Like, dude, if you guys even listen to me for you go back to when I was doing the show

00:09:04.200 in 2015, 16, you can hear it.

00:09:06.200 I talk about drinking fucking Maker's Mark and whiskey and shit.

00:09:10.020 And, uh, you know, I thought the same thing, bro.

00:09:13.000 I live the exact same way.

00:09:14.260 I did.

00:09:14.740 I didn't want to change.

00:09:15.900 And so it was, I thought it was super cool.

00:09:18.080 I do.

00:09:18.520 I'm like, bro, I could drink a bottle of whiskey and be fine.

00:09:20.920 I used to go.

00:09:21.780 I wasn't fine though.

00:09:22.700 I went to a meeting one time in Nashville, actually.

00:09:25.100 And I had been out till 4am the night before and I showed up for an 8am meeting, still

00:09:28.840 drunk.

00:09:29.700 And the GM of the hotel was like laughing about it and said, Hey, do you want to bloody

00:09:33.560 marry?

00:09:33.840 And I was like, fuck yeah.

00:09:35.160 And I killed the meeting, but I showed up drunk and I even continued to drink in the

00:09:39.940 meeting.

00:09:40.200 And that was like encouraged.

00:09:42.060 It was something that people, people would be like, we like working with Kyle cause he's

00:09:46.020 this crazy creative director, but he's also really smart, but you can go party with him.

00:09:49.900 I just felt like I owed my success to my ability to do that.

00:09:52.760 It was part of your image.

00:09:54.180 It was part of your brand.

00:09:55.920 It was part of your identity that you created it by yourself.

00:09:59.340 And so I had a hard time wanting to let go of that was the fear of who am I going to be

00:10:02.880 without this in my life?

00:10:04.220 Yeah.

00:10:04.680 And so it was like, I think it was day 21, day 23, day 23.

00:10:08.440 Another time I just, I drink and then I'd wake up the next day and be like, why am I

00:10:13.240 doing this?

00:10:13.740 Like I've got to prove to myself I can get through this shit.

00:10:15.840 And my girlfriend was getting fed up with it.

00:10:18.100 And at this point she was a couple months along.

00:10:20.380 Um, and I just knew like, I had to pull my head out of my ass if I was going to be a

00:10:25.360 good dad.

00:10:25.820 And so I'd always, I'd start over like the next day I'd start again.

00:10:28.580 Then I get 21 days in it, fail it again.

00:10:30.380 It's like, what the, I'd be fucking done by now if I hadn't fucked up three times.

00:10:34.260 I hear that a lot.

00:10:35.120 People, people will say, people will say, dude, I'm all, and this is how they justify.

00:10:39.580 I see it all the time.

00:10:40.760 You know, Oh dude, I got 30 days in and you know, I, I failed, but I learned what the program

00:10:45.460 was about.

00:10:46.340 The fuck you did.

00:10:47.180 I know exactly.

00:10:47.980 I had a, I had a buddy of mine who did it all except one day and he was telling me about

00:10:54.720 it.

00:10:54.860 And I was just like, ah, you didn't do it though, dude.

00:10:57.420 Yeah.

00:10:57.680 You didn't do it.

00:10:58.500 Yeah.

00:10:59.140 Cause you have to start over.

00:11:00.700 Yeah.

00:11:00.920 Um, that's like running a marathon fucking and quitting literally on the last mile and

00:11:07.560 then still claiming the little, you know, I ran a marathon.

00:11:10.560 I exactly agree.

00:11:11.580 Cause it really is.

00:11:13.140 It's those last 20 days when it's become very monotonous.

00:11:19.280 Yeah.

00:11:19.700 And that's one of the things that I've found is very hard about the phases of live hard

00:11:23.280 is once you've done 75 hard, you kind of feel like you've climbed that mountaintop and

00:11:28.720 the other ones, you're like, it just feels like you're going through the motions, man.

00:11:32.380 And that's part of the process of why it's hard.

00:11:35.360 And that's what people need to realize is the feeling of monotony is probably the hardest

00:11:39.660 part of it all.

00:11:40.460 Yeah.

00:11:40.640 But dude, for us to be successful in life, we have to master those monotonous tasks.

00:11:45.680 I agree.

00:11:46.320 At a hundred percent detail.

00:11:47.700 Dude.

00:11:48.160 And that's the biggest skill that people lack.

00:11:50.640 I, if I hadn't have gone straight from 75 hard into phase one of live hard, I wouldn't

00:11:56.060 have finished my recent book.

00:11:57.400 Yeah.

00:11:57.600 Cause I used, that's awesome.

00:11:59.220 I used the power list to finish my book because every day at the top of my list, it said right

00:12:04.680 for like seven hours.

00:12:06.580 And I made myself right between five and midnight every night for 30 fucking days.

00:12:11.780 And if I hadn't have had that as a task, you write for seven hours straight.

00:12:15.620 I did to finish the book.

00:12:17.460 Holy fuck.

00:12:18.040 It's not all good when you, you think you get to a point, you get to a point of diminishing

00:12:21.840 returns around three or four hours in, but I forced myself into the next morning.

00:12:25.460 I'd, next morning I'd start where I left off.

00:12:27.260 I'd reread and I'd edit and rewrite stuff.

00:12:29.420 Um, but it was the top of my list every day was to do that.

00:12:32.060 It makes sense why you're so good then.

00:12:34.060 Practice every day.

00:12:35.060 Dude, I have to, right?

00:12:35.900 Every day.

00:12:36.500 I actually have gone through, I've gone through spurts where I haven't written for a couple

00:12:40.380 of days and I feel stupid.

00:12:42.740 What's the name of your last book for everybody?

00:12:44.180 Cause they're going to want to buy it.

00:12:45.180 Just speech therapy.

00:12:46.240 Speech therapy.

00:12:46.740 Um, and it was a book that I'd had the idea to write since 2017.

00:12:51.140 It's a book about, I actually heard you talk about this on a recent podcast, how we have

00:12:55.680 these occurrences in our day that ruin our day, but really it's just an event.

00:12:59.120 That's a part of that day.

00:13:00.500 Bro.

00:13:00.780 And so I've had this idea to write a book about all the little things like losing your

00:13:04.440 keys, getting in a car wreck, you know, stupid shit that can derail you.

00:13:07.920 Cause I used to be that person.

00:13:09.140 Me too.

00:13:09.640 Um, my temper.

00:13:10.320 I'm still that person sometimes.

00:13:11.400 When I can't find something I've lost, my temper will go fucking AWOL.

00:13:15.320 It's in your fucking hand.

00:13:16.420 Yeah.

00:13:16.980 And so, and I realized how much I let that stuff affect me.

00:13:20.960 Yeah.

00:13:21.220 And so in 2017, I was like, I'm going to write this book.

00:13:23.660 And I pitched it to an agent at the time.

00:13:25.600 She said it wouldn't sell.

00:13:26.620 So I, I kind of just took her word for it and focus on other work.

00:13:29.480 And in the back of my mind, I always wanted to write it and coming off 75 hard, I felt that

00:13:35.920 I had a really good knowledge of small tasks and how much they can either be positive or

00:13:40.340 negative in your life because that's the whole program is these small things over and over.

00:13:43.840 And I was like, this is a time to write the book and I need to get it done as quickly as

00:13:49.680 possible.

00:13:50.060 Cause I'm in this mindset right now where I know the work is going to be really authentic.

00:13:54.280 And so I just phase one, that's what I did.

00:13:56.360 I wrote the book.

00:13:56.880 And then I took the time off in between phase one and phase two.

00:14:00.100 And then phase two, I was working on editing the book.

00:14:02.280 So I had on my critical power list or the power list every day.

00:14:05.900 I had like edit for edit four chapters and I worked on it constantly through that.

00:14:10.340 And so it's something actually, I just, since we last met, I actually finished another book.

00:14:15.180 I finished the children's book that I was telling you I was going to write.

00:14:17.340 That's awesome.

00:14:17.980 And same thing.

00:14:19.100 I use the phase three of live hard.

00:14:20.780 And I was like, you know what?

00:14:21.460 I'm going to make myself write a spread every day to get this book done.

00:14:25.100 And then I'm going to go through and work on the edits.

00:14:26.860 And so it's amazing how much you can accomplish in a short time when you're focused.

00:14:30.960 I've, I've always been a big to-do list kind of person, but you know, a to-do list is very

00:14:35.340 different.

00:14:35.680 Like that's shit, like change the light bulb and stuff.

00:14:37.520 Right, right, right.

00:14:37.980 It's a habit I picked up from my dad because my dad always wrote lists.

00:14:41.160 And so I always wrote lists probably for the past 10 years.

00:14:44.120 Bro, my dad did that too.

00:14:45.360 You know what he used to say to us?

00:14:46.640 He'd say, look, here's the whole key to success.

00:14:49.240 Make a list, call the list, when, now.

00:14:53.520 Yeah.

00:14:53.900 Okay.

00:14:54.160 Not when, W-I-N, but when.

00:14:56.560 Like when are you going to do it?

00:14:57.900 We're going to do it now.

00:14:58.860 Yeah.

00:14:58.960 So it's make a list, call a list, when, now.

00:15:01.320 And like, bro, that's like my dad's whole fucking method.

00:15:04.860 There is, I used to, when I worked in office jobs, when I was first starting as a copywriter,

00:15:09.460 I would take post-it notes and I'd line them up on my cubicle from top to bottom of what

00:15:13.700 was the most important thing.

00:15:14.840 Then as, uh, as I got them done, I'd take the post-it note off.

00:15:18.060 And just like that mental aspect made me feel really productive in my days.

00:15:21.400 But the difference between the power list and the to-do list for me is it's very easy

00:15:26.000 to push your to-do list to the next day.

00:15:27.780 Oh yeah.

00:15:28.240 And I've made myself a rule.

00:15:30.220 People think that a to-do list and a power list are the same thing.

00:15:33.120 They're very different.

00:15:33.800 Very different things.

00:15:34.840 So I made myself a rule that I would write.

00:15:37.720 I wrote my power list every day the day before based on how my day went.

00:15:41.600 Like if I knew I had a meeting coming up or an email that I needed to get back to.

00:15:45.620 And so I prioritized everything in my career that I had to do.

00:15:49.140 And I told myself if I write it the night before, I have to do it the next day with

00:15:54.680 the exception of like a circumstance out of my hands.

00:15:58.500 Like sometimes I'd have like, you know, brand presentations as part of my career on

00:16:02.340 there, but I had someone else would fumble the ball and wouldn't get it to me in

00:16:04.920 time.

00:16:05.180 So then I'd like be like, shit, okay, where can I pick up the slack and think of

00:16:08.040 something else career wise that I can, you know, fit in this day.

00:16:11.280 And so I always wrote in the night before and every night, the night before I wrote, I

00:16:15.060 had to write seven hours, edit four.

00:16:16.440 And I told myself, I was like, if I don't do this, I'm going to fail.

00:16:20.860 I'm going to consider it a fail if I fuck one of these up.

00:16:23.320 And so, um, it's something I still do now.

00:16:27.200 Um, even when I wasn't on phase three in between, I was still doing those lists every

00:16:30.760 day.

00:16:31.200 And then I added to the list, I added a, what I call like a, a burden of proof is what

00:16:36.860 I wrote it down next to.

00:16:38.220 And it's, uh, identifying laws of attraction things in my life that happened that day

00:16:45.300 that reaffirmed what I'm doing is in the right direction.

00:16:48.100 Dude.

00:16:48.600 Super important.

00:16:49.380 And so I started writing those down every day and it would be something as simple as

00:16:52.420 like, uh, getting a free valet.

00:16:56.640 Yeah.

00:16:57.020 I was like, Oh, I, that's, that's money.

00:16:58.600 I attracted money to my life.

00:16:59.780 I got valet free and I was expecting to pay for that.

00:17:01.840 Dude.

00:17:01.960 Have you read Michael Lozier's book, the law of attraction?

00:17:04.580 Yes.

00:17:05.080 That's that book.

00:17:07.220 He's the only guy ever besides, besides myself, I think.

00:17:11.420 And I got it from him.

00:17:12.620 So it's, that's where I got it.

00:17:13.680 Yeah.

00:17:14.060 From that book.

00:17:14.680 When he tells you to write that shit down, like dude, that, that book, it, I've recommended

00:17:19.920 that book for so long and people get it and they're like, this is a simple book.

00:17:22.860 I'm like, that's the point is, yeah, but you know, we talk about the law of attraction

00:17:27.540 and all this shit and everybody wants to get super deep and go into meta and quantum

00:17:31.560 physics and all these different things.

00:17:33.400 And the truth of the matter is you don't need to understand all the shit.

00:17:36.960 What you need to understand is how to use it.

00:17:38.560 And that's what that book is so good about.

00:17:40.400 And the thing I picked up on that book was what you're talking about.

00:17:43.600 Identifying it.

00:17:44.040 Yeah.

00:17:44.380 And it's, it's paying attention to when it comes back.

00:17:46.540 And it's, it's things you don't expect.

00:17:48.460 Yeah.

00:17:48.660 You know, it's someone like reaching out to me with a potential project.

00:17:51.400 Like I have people that I haven't talked to in five years that'll randomly email me

00:17:55.520 like, Hey, we're working on this new hotel project.

00:17:57.380 Do you want to be a part of it?

00:17:58.260 And that stuff hadn't happened to me until I started identifying even the little things,

00:18:03.780 like everything, like if a buddy pays for my meal for me, like everything like that,

00:18:08.280 I write down this little notebook that I keep with me at all times.

00:18:10.840 And it's really changed my level of gratitude with the world too.

00:18:15.640 Yeah.

00:18:16.040 In the sense that when I was in that really dark place prior to Sunday, five hard, it's

00:18:22.500 easy to just think like nothing good happens to me.

00:18:25.300 And you fall into that ditch of like, everything's just fucked up.

00:18:28.960 Everything sucks.

00:18:30.100 And even then there's probably little things happening to me, but I wasn't, I wasn't identifying

00:18:33.640 them.

00:18:33.900 No, we're focused on how fucking big that we're the, we're the victim of the world.

00:18:37.820 And you're focused on the force.

00:18:39.520 You're focused on the one big thing that sucks.

00:18:41.940 And then you don't notice all the little things and all those little things are what pile up

00:18:45.500 into something awesome over time.

00:18:46.920 Yeah, bro.

00:18:47.620 That's fucking gold, man.

00:18:49.320 That's a fact too.

00:18:50.680 It is.

00:18:51.220 You know, what's, what's so interesting.

00:18:53.460 That one concept changed, changed my entire life.

00:18:56.820 Being able to pay attention to when it was coming back, because what it does is it, as

00:19:02.900 you pay attention to the feedback that you get, it actually teaches you, if you're intelligent,

00:19:06.740 um, how to do it better, like how to attract better.

00:19:11.700 And, uh, man, it's cool to hear you talk about that.

00:19:15.000 It's very, very few people talk about that.

00:19:16.480 It's very similar to like getting in shape when you look in the mirror and you see yourself

00:19:19.700 getting in better shape, how motivating it is to notice the little things happening.

00:19:23.420 It motivates you to keep on that track.

00:19:25.620 Do you know what I think, you know, you know what I've come to think about the law of attraction

00:19:30.060 is, and this is how I think about it.

00:19:33.460 And I believe this to actually be true, literally, and a lot of people will disagree, but, you

00:19:39.500 know, when you get into, and we're going to get off track just for a second.

00:19:42.500 Yeah.

00:19:42.740 Yeah.

00:19:42.880 It always happens with us.

00:19:43.940 Yeah.

00:19:44.120 Yeah.

00:19:44.320 When you get into the, the quantum physical reality of what the, the, the time space construct

00:19:51.500 is, everything comes back to a single point and it's not, time is not linear.

00:19:58.060 It's, it's, it's a loop.

00:19:59.660 It's already happened.

00:20:00.600 And when you start to really examine that, and then you think about, well, what is visualization

00:20:09.900 then, right?

00:20:10.860 People think it's like, you're sitting there and you're actually like dreaming up what you

00:20:14.560 want your life to be like, but how I believe what it actually is.

00:20:18.500 And I think if people looked at it this way, they would be a lot more disciplined about

00:20:23.260 visualization and attraction and more mindful.

00:20:26.320 But I actually believe that when we visualize and we do it properly and we sit down and

00:20:32.720 we close our eyes and we take time to literally see the details of we want our life to be, I

00:20:39.880 personally believe that we are literally creating that in the future.

00:20:43.980 And if we all took that point of view and we said, okay, it's literal, like I'm literally

00:20:53.600 constructing my future with my mind when I visualize, if you got people to, if people

00:20:59.620 could just accept that as reality, right.

00:21:01.740 And say, fuck, I don't care how I don't, you don't need to know all the shit, but if

00:21:06.640 you took that serious, how serious would you take your visualization?

00:21:10.060 You would take it a lot more serious, right?

00:21:12.860 Oh, a hundred percent.

00:21:13.940 Absolutely.

00:21:14.480 But do you get what I'm saying?

00:21:15.420 Like, what if it is really that way?

00:21:17.320 What if it is your, when you visualize your life in the future, when you close your eyes

00:21:23.960 and you're, you're going through these visualization exercises, what if you are literally like literally

00:21:29.680 creating the future version of yourself before it comes to you?

00:21:34.140 Like, that's how I look at it.

00:21:37.060 And people are like, how the fuck do you visualize?

00:21:38.520 I'm like, very seriously, because I believe that it's literal because I've seen evidence

00:21:44.780 that it is in my life.

00:21:46.700 I have too.

00:21:47.600 And it was something I didn't notice.

00:21:49.280 I did a lot growing up as a teenager.

00:21:52.040 I would do it with little things.

00:21:53.520 And then six months later, you're like, this is exactly how I thought it was going to happen.

00:21:57.100 Um, but to your point, what you're saying is what is the benefit of not believing?

00:22:04.080 Like why there's none.

00:22:05.680 Yeah.

00:22:06.040 So why would you not choose to believe that's possible?

00:22:09.240 Like I, I, I, what I'm going to say, bro, I think the whole, I, I think, you know, this

00:22:14.980 is going to tie into the fucking last couple of years and conspiracies and this and that

00:22:18.860 and this, but, and we'll get back on track here, but like, dude, I've truly believe that

00:22:24.420 the human potential has been purposefully hidden from us for, for centuries for the

00:22:30.600 purpose of easier control of the human race.

00:22:34.360 And I, you know, when you hear things like, Oh, people, human only uses 10% of their brain

00:22:38.780 bullshit.

00:22:39.820 They're not telling you what the other 90% does.

00:22:42.100 Cause they don't want you to fucking use it.

00:22:43.900 And dude, when you get into this, you know, and you get into religions and you start reading

00:22:48.640 about different religions and you know, all, all of them just take Christianity, for example,

00:22:55.860 and they talk about Jesus.

00:22:57.100 Jesus talked about his brothers and sisters, that people were his brothers and his sisters.

00:23:01.840 Well, what does that insinuate?

00:23:04.380 That insinuates that we are the same.

00:23:07.300 All connected.

00:23:07.920 Right.

00:23:08.320 And what does that also insinuate?

00:23:10.220 It insinuates that the powers that Jesus had, all people have if they choose to exercise

00:23:15.160 them.

00:23:15.820 So if he's calling us as brothers and sisters and we are considered his people, well, then

00:23:26.120 how do we know that we're not all directly connected to God to where we can literally

00:23:31.260 create our entire existence?

00:23:33.340 Because he was able to do so as well.

00:23:36.080 You see what I'm saying?

00:23:37.240 Absolutely.

00:23:37.600 Like it's so like, what if, what if for the last 2000 years, they've actually been lying

00:23:45.440 to it?

00:23:45.860 We don't even know if it's actually been 2000 years.

00:23:48.060 That's what they fucking tell us.

00:23:49.240 It could have been 10,000 years.

00:23:50.860 It could have been 400 years.

00:23:52.740 We don't know because they write the shit.

00:23:56.040 Right.

00:23:56.600 So just, just something to think about.

00:24:00.240 You know what I mean?

00:24:01.260 Yeah.

00:24:01.500 And then thinking like non, non-religious about it, what I was saying earlier is where's the

00:24:08.120 benefit in believing it's not possible to create your future?

00:24:10.560 Because all it does is lock into a state of hopelessness and victimization.

00:24:14.140 For sure.

00:24:14.440 Like everybody, whether you're religious or not, should believe that you can create your

00:24:18.340 future because it's enjoyable to visualize things.

00:24:22.380 It's enjoyable to daydream.

00:24:24.180 It's enjoyable to let your imagination run off.

00:24:26.640 Like you're depriving yourself of like some actual joy in your life.

00:24:31.140 And if it doesn't turn out the way you visualize it or not, who cares?

00:24:35.380 You had years of like good times and that kind of positive mindset will change the way you

00:24:42.400 look at fucking everything.

00:24:43.580 Yeah, it sure does.

00:24:44.160 And that's just what people aren't doing.

00:24:45.840 They don't want to believe it.

00:24:46.740 They want to live in like this, you know, this, this state of everything, everything's

00:24:50.100 fucked.

00:24:50.440 Everything sucks.

00:24:51.240 Well, that's on purpose.

00:24:52.380 That's, that's the narrative that's put down because when you drive the human potential,

00:24:56.540 or hope for anything away, what do they have?

00:25:01.040 They're, they're miserable.

00:25:02.440 They don't have a purpose.

00:25:03.780 They're not inspired, which makes them all easier to suppress.

00:25:07.420 Oh, a hundred percent.

00:25:08.340 If you can put someone in a state of fear, you can get them to do whatever you want.

00:25:11.160 And lack of hope too.

00:25:12.300 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:12.700 Right?

00:25:12.920 Like, oh, it's hopeless.

00:25:13.860 Like we, there's nothing we can do.

00:25:16.060 So why the greatest thing that people can do to oppress a population is convince them

00:25:20.840 that there's nothing they can do about it.

00:25:22.100 Well, it's, uh, have you read that book, man's search for meaning?

00:25:24.940 Um, it's written by Viktor Frankl.

00:25:27.520 He was, uh, a psychiatrist put into a concentration camp and going into the concentration camp because

00:25:34.280 he was a psychiatrist, he viewed the experience completely differently.

00:25:38.000 And he noticed that one thing that every, every camp he went to had in common is around

00:25:44.440 Christmas, a lot of people would die and around people's birthdays, they would tend to

00:25:50.880 die and it's because during those are the times when they're like, oh, it's another

00:25:55.700 year, another Christmas, and you lose hope around those time periods.

00:26:00.200 And he said, you could watch a man in the span of 24 hours go from having enough energy to

00:26:07.480 get through the day to just dying because they gave up hope.

00:26:10.760 Yeah.

00:26:11.320 And it's, it's a book that I read.

00:26:12.820 I actually walked into a Barnes and Noble and I asked the guy, I said, what's a book that

00:26:15.840 changed your life?

00:26:16.880 Because I was looking for another book to read during 75 hard.

00:26:19.600 And he recommended that book to me and I'd heard about it.

00:26:22.000 I heard my dad talk about it.

00:26:23.420 Um, but reading that book, he ended up, you know, he ended up surviving, getting out of

00:26:29.940 the last camp and writing this book.

00:26:31.700 And he pioneered this whole new way of approaching psychiatry, where instead of looking at your

00:26:36.420 past, um, you know, a lot of psychiatrists or therapists, they want to know what got you

00:26:39.960 there, like what happened in your life that made you the way you are completely changed

00:26:43.900 it and said, no, I want to focus on the present and the future.

00:26:46.540 I don't care what got you here.

00:26:48.220 What is your purpose today?

00:26:49.300 And he found that by helping people identify a purpose, um, no matter how small that did

00:26:56.740 more for depression and anxiety and stress than any amount of like unraveling of their

00:27:00.900 past, bro, I I'm convinced, I'm convinced that if you have discipline and you have purpose

00:27:07.480 and you have gratitude together, you cannot be mentally fucked.

00:27:10.720 I agree.

00:27:11.300 You cannot be mentally fucked.

00:27:12.500 I have a buddy that's going through a really tough time right now.

00:27:14.540 I actually talked to him a couple of days ago and I didn't realize how depressed he was

00:27:17.600 and he's, he's very successful.

00:27:20.100 He sold his company about five years ago and he's just been living off the money from

00:27:22.960 it.

00:27:23.520 And I told him, I said, let me guess, I bet you feel purposeless.

00:27:28.300 And he's like, that's exactly how I feel.

00:27:30.020 And I said, you sold your company five years ago and you haven't done anything since.

00:27:33.220 Yeah.

00:27:33.540 He's lived the life he's bought.

00:27:34.960 He bought, you know, had a nice car collection.

00:27:36.960 He lived all over the beach.

00:27:37.940 And I was like, I told him, I said, that shit's only cool for a minute.

00:27:40.920 It's that purpose.

00:27:41.580 Yeah.

00:27:42.000 Right.

00:27:42.380 Purpose.

00:27:42.680 And I told him, I said, you need to do this 75 hard program.

00:27:46.620 And I gave him the copy of your book that I had.

00:27:48.680 And I said, if you do this and you actually do it, I was like, I guarantee you, you will

00:27:53.540 pull out of this hole, but you have to actually do it.

00:27:56.520 And you have, you will have a reason to get up every day other than you just getting up

00:28:00.940 and figuring out what you're going to spend your money on.

00:28:02.760 Yeah.

00:28:02.960 And it will change the way you feel about it.

00:28:04.700 And he took it very seriously and he's been reading it.

00:28:07.880 And I told him, I said, this is actually Monday of this week.

00:28:10.100 And I said, I'm going to go talk with Andy about this on Thursday.

00:28:13.380 You're going to listen to that podcast too, because you are the exact example of how the

00:28:18.340 purpose of just this program that feels like some fitness challenge, or it feels like some,

00:28:24.980 you know, at home, let's get buff kind of thing.

00:28:27.160 But really it, it gives you purpose that you otherwise wouldn't find by just doing

00:28:36.140 a monotonous thing.

00:28:37.840 Yeah.

00:28:38.280 Right.

00:28:39.340 Yeah, bro.

00:28:39.700 And it's like, even like something as simple as, you know, reading 10 pages a day, when

00:28:43.880 you do it as part of a program, it feels like you have that bigger picture at the end.

00:28:48.000 You're like, all this is going to lead to being successful.

00:28:50.800 And then I'll be in this, you know, this club of people that have completed 75 hard

00:28:53.980 and that motivation can overcome so much bullshit.

00:28:58.040 How old is this dude?

00:28:59.000 He's 30, 38, I believe.

00:29:01.260 Yeah, bro.

00:29:01.800 You just started, dude.

00:29:02.900 38, 39.

00:29:03.180 Like you might've made a whole bunch of money, but you just started.

00:29:06.180 Like that, that, that friend of yours, you know, take some of that money and start making

00:29:10.520 some impact in that community.

00:29:11.820 You know what I'm saying?

00:29:12.300 Like, and I'm not talking about just writing checks, go see people, see how it changes,

00:29:16.040 help them.

00:29:16.640 You know, maybe, maybe when you're a successful, like, dude, I think the, one of the biggest

00:29:21.940 purposes that, that a successful person who has exited can redevelop for themselves

00:29:27.420 is, uh, is serving their, their real community right there.

00:29:32.000 And it's, it's, you know, we can get into that different, but like,

00:29:36.180 um, you know, I see a lot of guys suffer from that.

00:29:40.020 A lot of, a lot of men and women who have been successful, who, who exit their place

00:29:44.640 of success.

00:29:45.740 That's why people, people always ask me, why don't you just sell and do a blah, blah, blah.

00:29:49.500 I'm like, what the fuck would I do?

00:29:51.100 I was just going to use that as an example.

00:29:52.640 I said, it's why you see people who are 70 and worth hundreds of millions still working.

00:29:56.240 Yeah.

00:29:56.620 People like, why don't you just quit and go do something else?

00:29:58.860 No, I need that purpose.

00:30:00.060 Yeah.

00:30:00.340 And the job ain't done.

00:30:01.480 Like retirement to me sounds like absolute hell.

00:30:04.480 Yeah.

00:30:04.640 Me too.

00:30:04.940 And I watched my grandparents when they retired.

00:30:07.740 I, my, my grandpa fell into severe dementia and my grandma became incredibly depressed.

00:30:13.040 And I do feel like a lot of it was that loss of purpose.

00:30:16.260 I think when you stop working every day, you know, they stopped working and started taking

00:30:19.720 their social security and they just sat home all day watching TV.

00:30:22.960 But dude, look at the, look at the, um, look at the message that's, that's sent down

00:30:29.500 to about success when it comes to that.

00:30:31.680 Like, dude, what do they tell, what do they tell you when you're 20 years old?

00:30:36.120 They say, oh bro, build a company or become rich, retire at what?

00:30:40.140 What age?

00:30:41.180 They already 40.

00:30:42.560 Yeah.

00:30:42.920 And you sit on the beach and you could chill and you could do this.

00:30:45.560 Sounds awful.

00:30:46.120 Bro.

00:30:46.700 It's, but that's the dream for a lot of people.

00:30:49.200 Right?

00:30:49.460 So they go out, they attack the dream.

00:30:51.780 They get to that place and they're like, holy shit, this was the wrong fucking way.

00:30:57.380 Right?

00:30:58.040 Yeah.

00:30:58.300 And then after a couple of years of it, you, you either are in like a hole of depression

00:31:03.500 and, you know, drug and alcohol abuse.

00:31:05.340 Cause you can afford to fuck off all the time.

00:31:07.280 Yeah.

00:31:07.720 Or you end up coming back to the workforce, starting another company or doing something

00:31:10.720 completely different with your life.

00:31:11.760 Yeah.

00:31:12.100 And it's hopefully the latter.

00:31:13.580 Cause I've known a lot of successful, uh, people, a handful legitimately names that you

00:31:19.120 would recognize that went on to sell for lots of money in the bees.

00:31:24.860 And, uh, and they're now, now they're dead.

00:31:27.620 Right.

00:31:28.100 I think Tony Shay is an example of that.

00:31:30.220 That's one of the guys I was thinking.

00:31:32.040 I think we talked about that when it happened.

00:31:33.440 I was actually out of, I was out of Lake Mead with one of his buddies.

00:31:36.180 And he's one of the most brilliant fucking men that ever fucking walked the face of the

00:31:39.760 earth.

00:31:39.980 And because he lacked the purpose post success, now he's gone.

00:31:44.940 That's why the goal in life shouldn't be finances.

00:31:47.060 It should be purpose.

00:31:47.900 Like that's what people need to understand is you shouldn't be, it's making money is awesome.

00:31:52.560 Having nice things is fucking cool.

00:31:54.380 But your ultimate goal in life should be to find purpose that the money is secondary to

00:32:01.140 it.

00:32:01.420 Because, you know, with me as a writer, for example, all I've ever wanted to do is write

00:32:05.120 for almost as long as I can remember.

00:32:07.380 Um, I couldn't imagine doing anything other than writing.

00:32:09.500 And when I'm 80 and I'm getting on in life, you better fucking believe I'm going to be

00:32:13.880 writing books about what it's like.

00:32:15.320 Yeah.

00:32:15.340 But think how good your shit's going to be then.

00:32:17.140 Oh, it's going to be so good.

00:32:18.020 Yeah.

00:32:18.340 I tell people all the time, I was like, I can't wait till like, I look like some weathered

00:32:20.920 old dude that spent his life at sea and I just have stories.

00:32:23.520 Fucking Hemingway.

00:32:24.580 Oh, so much to draw from.

00:32:26.180 Yeah.

00:32:26.560 Well, hopefully minus the, uh, the suicide, but yes.

00:32:29.400 Of course.

00:32:30.220 Yeah.

00:32:30.440 But I'm just saying like the best writers are people who have lived life.

00:32:34.600 You have to live an interesting life.

00:32:35.820 Yeah.

00:32:36.020 I think creatives in general.

00:32:37.700 Yeah.

00:32:38.000 Writers, musicians, artists.

00:32:39.740 Um, even if you consider yourself a creative entrepreneur, you have to live an interesting

00:32:43.680 life to have things to draw from.

00:32:46.000 Yeah.

00:32:46.220 You can't be content with the, doing the same old thing.

00:32:50.100 And that was kind of like 75 hard for me too, is I've never been one who's really cared

00:32:54.820 about fitness.

00:32:55.600 I never been one who wanted to be like super buff and fit.

00:32:57.960 You're fucking ripped now though, bro.

00:32:59.880 Yeah.

00:33:00.520 It was funny as I actually had, I was, I was leaving the gym.

00:33:02.940 I stayed at my hotel and I had one of the bellhops stop me and he asked me about training

00:33:07.140 legs.

00:33:07.960 And he was like, I saw you and you checked in and I was like, man, that motherfucker

00:33:10.920 is cut up.

00:33:11.940 Yeah.

00:33:12.360 I've never had that happen.

00:33:13.680 Yeah.

00:33:13.920 I've never been someone that people ask fitness advice from.

00:33:17.180 I've usually a lot of, a lot of career advice, a lot of life advice, but I've never been

00:33:21.340 someone that people seek out for fitness advice.

00:33:23.800 And that was a new thing for me.

00:33:24.940 Yeah.

00:33:25.300 Um, and that was the thing about 75 hard being new for me too, is I never really wanted

00:33:29.760 to do like some fitness challenge or whatever, you know, people like to call that shit,

00:33:33.500 but I wanted, I mentally wanted to heal.

00:33:36.500 And that was, that's always been my big thing is what can I do to be more creative?

00:33:40.780 What can I do to feel more, um, connected to my world?

00:33:45.660 Because it helps me when I write.

00:33:47.440 Um, and that's why like, when I say like, I really did do it strictly for the mental aspect.

00:33:51.260 And I think we were talking about this last time I was here in every stage of the program

00:33:55.480 I've experienced with my diet.

00:33:56.940 Um, you know, 75 hard, I followed a pretty, you know, rigorous, you know, typical bodybuilding

00:34:01.660 diet where it's like portion control, like healthy carbs, healthy protein.

00:34:05.440 Um, and then phase one, I did more of like a paleo thing and I was really lightheaded,

00:34:10.200 really foggy.

00:34:11.400 Um, now I just do like this meat and fruit thing where I've cleaned up my diet to where

00:34:14.540 I only eat organic, only grass fed.

00:34:16.400 Um, and I feel more energetic and creative than ever before.

00:34:21.120 And it's awakened this new found appreciation for food in me.

00:34:25.520 I never really had.

00:34:26.840 Um, and I started hunting again.

00:34:28.640 Um, I grew up hunting a lot, but I started hunting again just for the reason of, I wanted

00:34:32.760 to be more connected to what I put in my body.

00:34:34.800 I wanted to put in the hard work to do it.

00:34:37.480 Um, and you talk about some other episodes where once 75 hard becomes like, you know, almost

00:34:42.980 monotonous, you try and find other ways to challenge yourself.

00:34:45.800 Um, and so now like everything I can do that is the harder route I I'm trying to intentionally

00:34:52.700 pick because I know the reward of doing something difficult and I appreciate it more than I ever

00:34:58.760 had.

00:34:59.500 What would you say to someone who, who, you know, is right now, like they're, they're

00:35:05.260 kind of where you were, um, sort of lost, not completely lost, but sort of lost.

00:35:12.100 Yes.

00:35:12.440 The thing is like, I still had book deals.

00:35:14.000 I still had money coming in.

00:35:14.960 Bro, it's almost worse than being completely lost because it's fucking purgatory.

00:35:18.900 Uh huh.

00:35:19.240 You're making money.

00:35:20.320 You're somewhat successful.

00:35:22.040 Everything from the outside seems like it's okay.

00:35:24.420 And everyone on the inside know that it isn't.

00:35:26.660 And everyone says to you, why aren't you happy?

00:35:28.380 Look at your life.

00:35:29.120 You know, I was living in a condo against the beach in LA.

00:35:32.220 I could walk to the fucking beach.

00:35:33.980 I had a beautiful girlfriend.

00:35:35.860 Um, thankfully I still do.

00:35:37.780 And it was like the life that everyone's like, dude, you're living the life.

00:35:41.000 And I was like, dude, I am so fucking miserable.

00:35:43.960 Yeah.

00:35:44.240 And people just don't understand.

00:35:45.840 Yeah.

00:35:46.500 Yeah, dude.

00:35:47.140 But sorry, you were going to say something.

00:35:48.340 I was going to say, so what would, you know, like, cause there's so many people out there

00:35:52.880 living in the purgatory.

00:35:54.260 Yeah.

00:35:54.620 Right.

00:35:54.940 It's a limbo, man.

00:35:55.780 Right.

00:35:56.020 They're not, they're not completely fucked, but they're in that place where they're, they're

00:36:03.280 surviving.

00:36:04.340 Um, and, and it may appear that they're even thriving.

00:36:06.920 What would you say to those people?

00:36:09.360 Become more of a leader in your community and your friend group.

00:36:12.680 And that's something that I've realized that I've had hard change for me too.

00:36:16.780 Like I said earlier, my friends used to always come to me for business advice and I've noticed

00:36:21.280 just my direct relationships with people around me.

00:36:23.780 They look to me more now than ever before because they know I've done 75 hard and they

00:36:29.520 know how difficult it is.

00:36:31.460 And for the first time in my life, I was telling someone this, I think a couple of months ago,

00:36:37.020 I feel truly called to do something more.

00:36:40.740 And I don't know that I ever would have got there had I not done the program because I

00:36:45.100 started seeing the impact I had on people by doing something that I did solely for myself.

00:36:51.420 Um, I didn't, I never, I never once posted about my progress.

00:36:54.820 I'd post, I posted at the end of every phase.

00:36:58.000 I'm not one, you know, I'm not one to tell people what I'm up to.

00:37:01.280 So I wasn't seeking like that daily validation of look at me.

00:37:04.020 I'm on day 37 kind of shit.

00:37:05.500 Um, but I realized when I did, and my audience is primarily built up with people who like

00:37:10.520 my writing or they envied my, my travel party-esque lifestyle.

00:37:14.620 And so when I posted that first 75 hard post on my story about successfully completing it,

00:37:19.840 it was one of my most liked and interacted with posts I've ever put on a story.

00:37:24.180 And I realized that by making myself better, just that leading by example is powerful,

00:37:33.000 bro.

00:37:33.740 And I didn't have that before.

00:37:36.040 And so someone that's successful now find other ways you can lead by example in your life,

00:37:41.220 find other ways you can encourage people to better themselves.

00:37:45.080 And I think on an episode you just recently had, you had an individual ask how you deal

00:37:49.800 with the anger of being on 75 hard and your, your exact advice was, you know, help others.

00:37:54.020 It's so fucking true.

00:37:56.200 Yeah.

00:37:56.820 Um, and when you have other people tell you, you motivated them, like my accountant did

00:38:00.180 75 hard.

00:38:01.080 Yeah.

00:38:01.580 And he tore his ACL with five days left and he still finished it.

00:38:04.720 Fuck yeah.

00:38:05.340 And he called me and he told me, he said, if you ever get a chance to talk to Andy, you

00:38:09.940 need to tell him how grateful I am because.

00:38:11.800 That's awesome.

00:38:12.260 I was alcoholic.

00:38:13.800 Um, he has three kids.

00:38:14.640 He's like, my marriage was shit.

00:38:16.140 My wife was mad at me.

00:38:17.140 I wasn't spending time with my kids.

00:38:18.460 I come home from the office and instead of playing catch with my kid, I would drink

00:38:21.940 a couple of beers and watch TV.

00:38:23.800 He's like, 75 hard fixed my life.

00:38:26.140 And he told me, he said, I will never go back to being who I was before.

00:38:30.460 And he's like, had I not watched you do it, Kyle?

00:38:32.700 Cause he knew my lifestyle.

00:38:33.980 He does my receipts.

00:38:34.720 He does my accounting.

00:38:35.500 He knew how much I used to spend partying.

00:38:37.160 He's like, had I not seen you do it?

00:38:38.760 I never would have even tried something like that.

00:38:40.840 That's awesome.

00:38:41.380 And I've had a lot, a lot, a lot of people, um, come to me with that story that because

00:38:46.620 I seem like the last guy that would do something like that and motivate them to do something

00:38:51.180 they needed in their life.

00:38:52.240 Well, bro, you're, you're your own man.

00:38:54.500 Like I could see where you would have a hard time following somebody else's shit.

00:38:57.780 Dude, I would get, I do every fucking time.

00:39:01.480 I remember the first time I failed.

00:39:02.900 Like you say that and I'm just like, yeah, I bet that was hard.

00:39:05.580 The first time I failed, I was on day 21 and I was putting together a bed.

00:39:10.220 I just got a bed that I was putting together with my girlfriend and I, and I was so frustrated

00:39:13.760 because I couldn't get the bolts to go into this bedpost and I was losing my fucking shit.

00:39:18.560 I was so angry and I was like, why am I angry still?

00:39:22.000 Like I'm on this program, I'm doing things right.

00:39:23.680 I'm sober.

00:39:24.680 Why am I so mad?

00:39:26.420 And it was because I wanted to fucking drink and I couldn't because this asshole online

00:39:30.920 told me in this program, I couldn't drink.

00:39:32.860 And then I was sitting there for hours.

00:39:34.760 I was like, you know what?

00:39:35.280 Fuck this guy.

00:39:36.160 Yeah.

00:39:36.560 And I went out that night.

00:39:37.680 Yeah.

00:39:38.280 Yeah.

00:39:38.640 And that happened to every time I failed, like seriously, it was because I wanted to

00:39:44.240 be independent.

00:39:45.140 I get that.

00:39:45.500 I wanted to be my own person.

00:39:46.880 Yeah.

00:39:47.360 I get that, dude.

00:39:48.380 It's hard for me to follow shit too.

00:39:50.220 Oh man.

00:39:50.760 Especially when you're a fucking, when you're, when you have the leader in you already,

00:39:54.760 it can be difficult.

00:39:57.600 I can, I can relate to that.

00:39:58.820 But that's the thing.

00:39:59.360 Setting up our heart humbled me.

00:40:00.700 Yes.

00:40:01.120 It humbled me not only physically, but mentally.

00:40:04.540 And it made me much more open to other people's input.

00:40:07.820 Um, you know, as a creative director, when I work on projects, typically I'm the, I'm

00:40:12.260 the last man standing on every opinion.

00:40:14.780 Like I can veto or agree with whatever comes my way.

00:40:17.820 And so even in my professional life, I have become so much more open to other people's

00:40:23.180 opinions and I'm so okay with being wrong.

00:40:28.140 Yeah.

00:40:28.600 Cause the point's never to be right.

00:40:30.040 It's to accomplish a mission.

00:40:31.240 And exactly.

00:40:31.980 And I used to, I used to be okay with being wrong only because I liked the idea of,

00:40:37.820 failure as an exercise for creative inspiration.

00:40:41.760 I liked failing in the sense that having a bad breakup or, or having, oh, I'm going to

00:40:46.120 write some sweet fucking tweet about what just happened to me.

00:40:48.640 I used to like failure for that aspect, but egotistically it would still kick my ass.

00:40:52.400 Yeah.

00:40:52.780 It would, it would upset me.

00:40:54.380 Um, but now like, I'm really okay with being wrong.

00:40:57.760 I'm really okay with just sitting back and let people like voice their opinion over me.

00:41:01.900 If it's, if I feel it's the right one, it's like, you know what, dude.

00:41:05.520 And it was saying if I've heard that made me that humble, dude, you know, something for

00:41:09.540 me too, man, on that along the line, like I used to have a hard time, like where I had

00:41:15.560 to fucking engage everybody.

00:41:17.360 Like if they disagree with me and I knew I was right, I had to engage it.

00:41:21.300 And now I'm like, look, man, I'm just telling you how, how I see that what's happening.

00:41:28.260 You can either accept that I, you think I know what I'm talking about, or you could think

00:41:32.280 I'm wrong.

00:41:32.980 I think the real world evidence speaks that I'm doing okay.

00:41:35.900 And I'm somewhat intelligent.

00:41:37.640 Um, and if you disagree, cool.

00:41:39.860 You think I'm an asshole.

00:41:41.000 Cool too.

00:41:42.040 I don't really care.

00:41:43.360 Like I don't value at all anybody else's opinion of me anymore, like at all.

00:41:49.420 And it's super fucking free.

00:41:51.300 Dude, I, I, I got that from the program, but also from becoming a parent.

00:41:54.940 Yeah.

00:41:55.380 Um, I was telling somebody the other day, I was like, you want to know someone who truly

00:41:58.100 doesn't give a fuck?

00:41:59.200 It's parents taking their kids to a nice restaurant.

00:42:01.660 Yeah.

00:42:02.100 They don't give a fuck that they're going to ruin your night because you're there paying

00:42:05.800 a hundred bucks a plate because they want to do something nice with their kids.

00:42:08.640 Yeah.

00:42:08.940 And I was like, there is very few levels of people who give less fucks than that parent.

00:42:13.300 Yeah.

00:42:13.700 And you have all these single people that are like, oh, I don't care what people think of

00:42:17.140 me.

00:42:17.200 It's like, yeah, you do.

00:42:18.220 Yeah.

00:42:18.420 You would never do that.

00:42:19.880 Yeah.

00:42:20.080 And it used to be something that bothered me when I was at nice restaurants.

00:42:22.980 I didn't want to, I didn't want to see kids there.

00:42:24.620 Yeah.

00:42:25.040 And now it's like, no, my kid goes everywhere with me.

00:42:27.120 Yeah.

00:42:27.260 I take my kid to bars.

00:42:28.420 I take him in like, you know, you're that fucking parent.

00:42:31.560 Oh, hell yeah.

00:42:32.000 I want to snatch your kid's fucking hair.

00:42:34.420 I take it.

00:42:34.780 Shut up, kid.

00:42:35.440 I take it.

00:42:35.900 Well, he's, he's, he's very, he's very well behaved because I'm pretty mellow with it.

00:42:41.160 Yeah.

00:42:41.340 And they feed off our energy, but I take my kid everywhere because I want him to experience

00:42:45.420 stuff with me.

00:42:45.960 Yeah.

00:42:45.980 No, it's cool as fuck.

00:42:46.820 And I don't care if I have set other people.

00:42:48.020 It's like, I don't care.

00:42:49.020 Yeah.

00:42:49.780 And, uh, between 75 hard and becoming a parent in the middle of it, my, like you're saying,

00:42:55.840 like, I don't engage in comments anymore.

00:42:57.400 I don't care.

00:42:58.140 I used to like arguing with people on Instagram and I realized how big of a drain it is on

00:43:02.260 my time.

00:43:03.040 It's not even worth arguing because most of the people that have based an opinion on

00:43:06.780 you are not open to any discussion about it at all.

00:43:09.820 Like it's a competition of who can outwit who and who can zing who and who can be right.

00:43:15.880 And like, dude, that's not productive for solutions.

00:43:18.160 You can't have it.

00:43:18.820 I'm trying to solve shit.

00:43:19.540 You can't have a good conversation online either.

00:43:21.500 You just can't.

00:43:22.840 No, I agree.

00:43:23.900 What do you, dude, what do you think of like the, you know, the confidence, the grit, the

00:43:28.660 fortitude, and those qualities that we talk about, the program helping produce for people?

00:43:33.340 How did you see those things show up for you?

00:43:36.000 Well, the confidence for sure.

00:43:37.440 It comes from the fact of doing something you don't think you can.

00:43:39.780 Yeah.

00:43:40.160 Um, that's why I was confident I could finish my book in 30 days.

00:43:44.940 I knew that if I did something small over time, that it would produce the book I wanted.

00:43:52.180 And so I had confidence in my work and all of my projects now I take on, like, I just

00:43:57.060 feel almost unstoppable in the sense that if I can dissect them down, like, okay, this

00:44:03.060 is my big goal.

00:44:03.960 How do I break this down?

00:44:04.960 And if I just do that every fucking day, I know I'm going to reach that goal.

00:44:08.340 And so there's very few things that I feel like are out of my reach when it comes to

00:44:11.640 my career-wise.

00:44:12.720 And then, like we were talking about grit, I test myself all the time now.

00:44:16.880 Like, I try to make things harder.

00:44:19.780 Like, sometimes I'll be like, you know what, fuck it, I'm going to take an eight-minute

00:44:22.220 cold shower just to do the extra, and I'll do it just to know I can do it.

00:44:26.040 And then it makes five feel very easy after that.

00:44:28.700 Yeah.

00:44:28.820 I'm trying to think of other worries in my life, but I really do test myself often now

00:44:34.560 just because I want to accomplish something.

00:44:36.860 Yeah.

00:44:37.520 I do that same shit, bro, with the showers.

00:44:39.500 Just for the hell of it.

00:44:39.920 I also do it on the treadmill, too.

00:44:41.860 Like, I used to do this thing that I picked up from Ed Milet, which he's a brilliant dude.

00:44:47.840 And he's like, just one more rep or one more minute every single time.

00:44:51.320 But now I'm up to five extra minutes.

00:44:53.160 So if I even catch myself thinking one more minute, I force myself to do five.

00:44:57.320 But the rule is, only one time.

00:45:00.260 So, like, I won't go to 10, because what'll happen is I'll get caught up in the cycle.

00:45:04.520 I won't be able to get off the fucking treadmill.

00:45:06.180 So, but if I think it one time, I'm like, all right, one more.

00:45:10.380 I'm like, all right, that's five minutes.

00:45:11.720 And I do it.

00:45:12.540 I thought I was the only person that did that shit.

00:45:14.100 Yeah, no.

00:45:14.440 But you got to cap it off at one cycle of extra.

00:45:17.800 I wasn't a big runner.

00:45:19.860 I've always hated running.

00:45:21.540 So one of the things when I started 75 hard is I started running.

00:45:24.080 And I used to think running any more than a mile was, like, the definition of hell on earth.

00:45:28.220 Yeah, I still think that.

00:45:29.680 Running sucks.

00:45:30.720 Running, running sucks.

00:45:32.620 But I started running because it sucks.

00:45:35.680 And I used to go, at first, I'd just, like, I'd run as far as I could.

00:45:39.200 And I'd stop and walk, catch my breath, and run again.

00:45:41.220 And then it got to the point where if I could see it, I had to run to it.

00:45:44.640 And so, like, I'd turn down streets.

00:45:46.840 I'd be like, don't look down that street.

00:45:48.300 Because if I see that Suburban at the end, I'm going to have to run to it.

00:45:50.880 Yeah.

00:45:51.240 Because I would tell myself I could make it there.

00:45:53.080 Yeah.

00:45:53.400 And so, I'd have to, like, pre-plan a running route.

00:45:55.840 Yeah.

00:45:55.980 And be like, don't get distracted.

00:45:57.180 Yeah.

00:45:57.480 And it would happen often to where, like, I'd turn, and I'd see, like, a construction crane.

00:46:00.880 I'd be like, fuck it.

00:46:01.760 I can run there.

00:46:02.460 Yeah.

00:46:02.820 And because I saw it and I thought about it for a second, I made myself run there.

00:46:06.180 Yeah.

00:46:06.560 And so, a lot of my outdoor cardio would go from 45 minutes to, like, an hour and a half.

00:46:09.760 Yeah.

00:46:10.320 Because I would just keep doing it.

00:46:11.560 Bro, that's crazy.

00:46:12.560 Because that's the exact same shit I'm talking about.

00:46:14.780 I didn't think someone else did that shit.

00:46:16.740 You become weird in certain ways.

00:46:18.680 Just because you want to prove things to yourself.

00:46:20.500 Yeah.

00:46:20.640 Yeah.

00:46:20.880 It's becoming addicted to the test.

00:46:23.520 It really is.

00:46:24.280 And then it makes the easy things so much easier.

00:46:28.080 Dude, look.

00:46:29.060 Like, when you start operating on that level that you're talking, because what you're talking

00:46:32.480 about is, like, the natural progression past live hard.

00:46:34.980 That's just who you become.

00:46:36.080 You become someone who constantly tests yourself to become better, even on the smallest little

00:46:42.940 things.

00:46:43.400 And people look at you like you're fucking wacky.

00:46:46.840 And it's accountability to yourself.

00:46:48.540 Yeah.

00:46:48.940 That's it.

00:46:49.760 There's no reward in that.

00:46:50.680 Because, dude, what I realized in my brain was that if I bitch out on that, if I say,

00:46:56.160 oh, okay, do an extra minute, and I don't do it, or if I say, all right, there's that

00:47:00.540 block over it, because I do that thing, but I do it with, like, a jog or a walk, I have

00:47:06.320 to go touch it.

00:47:06.960 So, like, if I think that I have to go touch it, I have to touch it.

00:47:10.500 So, like, I have this weird, these weird little quirks, like, if people ever come work

00:47:14.720 out with me, they'll be like, what the fuck are you doing?

00:47:16.500 I'm like, bro, just touch that.

00:47:17.960 Just touch it.

00:47:18.480 I'm the same way.

00:47:19.820 It's like some weird OCD.

00:47:21.720 Yes, it is, but what it really is, is in your brain, what I'm doing is I'm telling my brain,

00:47:28.120 I'm a control bitch.

00:47:29.340 Like, you're not in control of this shit.

00:47:31.060 I'm in control of this shit.

00:47:32.600 And once I recognize that consciously, it's like almost like a constant competition with

00:47:39.160 your own self.

00:47:39.800 Absolutely.

00:47:40.360 Yeah.

00:47:40.580 And it all rooted back to what I was saying earlier, where I told myself I could get through

00:47:44.100 this, I could get through anything.

00:47:45.540 I like knowing I can do that shit, because I really don't feel like much can derail me at

00:47:50.940 this point.

00:47:51.360 That's it.

00:47:52.920 When shit goes awry or something doesn't go as planned to me anymore, it rarely rattles

00:47:57.980 me like it used to.

00:47:58.780 Like, I'll be upset, I'll be frustrated, I'm human, but it doesn't stop me.

00:48:02.360 I'm just like, all right, fuck it, we'll just do this instead, you know?

00:48:04.880 Yeah.

00:48:05.320 And it's just those small tests of doing it to myself all the time.

00:48:09.100 Bro, I constantly tell myself every time something bad happens like that, I'm like,

00:48:13.240 all right, fucking test day.

00:48:14.800 That's what it is, fucking test day.

00:48:16.820 Like, because usually the bad shit that gets, it's what we talked about in the beginning of

00:48:20.600 the show, where like that one little thing-

00:48:22.500 Can do real, yeah.

00:48:23.100 Yes.

00:48:23.700 But dude, I live a life to where that one little thing literally happens every fucking

00:48:28.340 day before I even wake up and get out of fucking bed, because of the amount of shit that I

00:48:32.600 have to answer to.

00:48:33.400 So, like, every single day, by the time I fucking pick up my phone, there's a thing

00:48:38.820 there that's going to fuck me up, right?

00:48:42.520 And so now I've just had to start looking at it like, yeah, that's what the fuck it is.

00:48:47.040 Like, it's not even something to be upset about at all, it's just part of the job.

00:48:51.300 Yeah, you learn to be selective with your energy.

00:48:53.240 Yeah.

00:48:54.100 I think being selective with your energy is something that a lot of people don't have

00:48:57.160 either.

00:48:57.460 Um, 10 years ago, bro, five years ago, I would fucking melt down over that shit.

00:49:02.740 And then I would come in the office and I would be mean as fuck to everybody.

00:49:06.360 I would fucking, not mean, but like, over, like, aggressive, I guess.

00:49:14.820 Like, like, just not a cool dude.

00:49:17.120 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:18.440 I wouldn't come in like trying to fucking wreck people, but like, if you got in my way that

00:49:22.060 day, it was a bad thing.

00:49:23.140 And like, who wants that reputation?

00:49:25.200 No, I fucking hate it.

00:49:25.940 Who wants to be known as someone like that?

00:49:27.660 Like, it sounds fucking awful.

00:49:28.880 But when you're young, when you're young, like, you almost think it's cool.

00:49:31.720 You think it's cool.

00:49:32.420 You're like, oh, don't fuck with him today.

00:49:33.880 It's not.

00:49:34.500 You get older and you realize those kind of people are miserable and no one wants to be

00:49:38.080 around them.

00:49:38.480 Yeah, bro.

00:49:39.340 It was something that it's, I mean, it's, it's something I still have to work on sometimes

00:49:43.860 because I can get fucking, cause I'm a high strung dude and I'm intense, but, uh, man,

00:49:49.400 it's like, it's made my life much better leaving that in the past.

00:49:53.880 Yeah.

00:49:53.940 You know, and, and working consciously.

00:49:56.520 And this program has really helped me with that a lot.

00:50:00.180 The program.

00:50:01.160 Sometimes I still go nuclear, but the, the, the nuclear, the nuclear explosions are much

00:50:05.360 smaller and less frequent.

00:50:06.920 Yeah.

00:50:07.360 I mean, I, the program too, like what I was saying is it teaches you where to focus your

00:50:11.160 energy.

00:50:11.480 And I've even noticed, you know, I can't be friends with some people.

00:50:14.660 Yeah.

00:50:15.300 Yeah.

00:50:15.560 And they're good people.

00:50:16.760 Nothing, nothing.

00:50:18.060 No, I get it.

00:50:18.660 Something about them is wrong, but like my energy and where I'm at in my life.

00:50:23.160 And like I said, I feel called to do something much more.

00:50:26.540 I just can't be friends with certain people and they're great people, but just the vibe

00:50:30.620 they put off now, it just really bothers the hell out of me.

00:50:33.800 Yeah.

00:50:34.200 Dude, you become zero, you become zero.

00:50:39.260 I guess you have zero tolerance for the story, the bullshit stories that people, it's like

00:50:44.920 for me, dude, here's the problem I have with what you're talking about is like these people

00:50:49.540 who I like and who I've been around and who I appreciate and love, you know, self-victimization

00:50:55.480 is a real fucking thing.

00:50:56.720 And it's a strategy, by the way, this is a, this is a, this is a media strategy to demoralize

00:51:01.580 people, to keep people down.

00:51:03.660 Okay.

00:51:05.140 And when, when people self-victimize now at this point in time, I have zero tolerance

00:51:10.640 for it.

00:51:10.980 I can't fucking hear it.

00:51:12.080 Like, I know you're my friend and I'm here for you and I'll help you, but I am not here

00:51:17.100 to hear your fucking bullshit story about why the fuck you aren't where the fuck you

00:51:20.920 want to be, or even on the path to where you want to be.

00:51:23.080 I just can't.

00:51:24.560 I, cause like, dude, if I'm around those people, I come off as an asshole because I'm

00:51:28.740 like, bro, you're full of shit.

00:51:30.120 You're full of shit.

00:51:31.220 Yeah.

00:51:31.820 Cause they are, you know?

00:51:33.800 And, and so like now I've had to like, like, if you want me to tell you that I will tell

00:51:39.380 you that, but I can't tolerate because so much of the small talk that happens, I, this

00:51:44.660 is what I've noticed, you know, I've been doing the program since the start.

00:51:47.600 Um, like the small talk that, that most people have is like, if you really listen to it, it's

00:51:55.780 really a competition about how shitty their fucking lives are.

00:52:00.200 And dude, I cannot be present for that.

00:52:03.220 People don't like to hear they're the cause of their misery because then it forces them

00:52:08.380 to take responsibility.

00:52:09.640 Yeah.

00:52:10.020 And it's easier to be lazy than it is to get up and fucking do something about it.

00:52:13.020 I read something about that recently where it said the, the benefit of doing nothing

00:52:16.880 is you can always do it perfectly.

00:52:18.700 Yeah.

00:52:19.580 Um, and so I, I thought about that for a long time.

00:52:21.860 I was like, man, that is a profound fucking line where I read that, but it's easy to be,

00:52:26.120 it's, it's a Thomas Sowell quote.

00:52:28.180 It's fantastic.

00:52:29.180 It's easy to, uh, it's something along the lines.

00:52:31.920 And then he says it's, it's basically easier to feel, uh, morally superior from that position

00:52:37.980 because it's, it's just, it's crazy to me how much.

00:52:43.020 People like, cause I write a lot of stuff that you're talking about where, um, I try

00:52:48.300 to encourage people to put the power back in their own hands and the amount of blowback

00:52:53.100 I get from something that is meant to be empowering blows my fucking mind.

00:53:00.220 And it's cause it shines a light on their own.

00:53:02.400 It's like, I'm saying they don't want to know they're capable because then now they have

00:53:07.180 to blame themselves and they're afraid it's going to make them feel worse.

00:53:09.920 It's where if you can look at it correctly, every bit of that understanding is going to

00:53:17.040 help you.

00:53:17.700 It's a, I found the quote here.

00:53:19.100 It's Thomas Sowell.

00:53:20.500 The beauty of doing nothing is that you can do it perfectly.

00:53:23.440 Only when you do something, is it almost impossible to do it without mistakes.

00:53:28.820 Therefore people who are contributing nothing to society except their constant criticisms

00:53:33.700 can feel both intellectually and morally superior.

00:53:36.840 Exactly the quote I read.

00:53:37.980 Yeah.

00:53:38.160 I couldn't remember who wrote that.

00:53:39.100 Yeah.

00:53:39.620 He's a genius.

00:53:40.600 His shit is fucking amazing.

00:53:41.820 It's phenomenally profound, especially what we've seen the last two and a half years.

00:53:45.120 Yeah.

00:53:45.440 And like, I think we talked about this too, is when we, when we knew we were going to record

00:53:48.880 this podcast.

00:53:50.400 Um, now more than ever is when people need to be doing this kind of thing.

00:53:54.320 Well, dude, it's what we're talking about here, ironically enough, because that's not

00:53:59.800 why I started the fucking program, but it is 100% the answer to the problems in our culture.

00:54:06.860 It's a hundred percent.

00:54:08.100 I agree.

00:54:08.620 Yeah.

00:54:09.020 Our problem in culture right now is not going to be solved by Donald Trump when he gets reelected

00:54:15.240 or whatever people think, like people think, and I agree, we need some help.

00:54:19.280 Like there's some fucking rogue motherfuckers doing some bad shit.

00:54:21.760 But the point of the matter is that's still not going to solve your shit, right?

00:54:25.660 And for us, it's what you said about being a leader, dude.

00:54:28.960 It's the ripple.

00:54:29.900 It's the unintended ripple effect that it creates, that it will actually fix society.

00:54:34.820 The problem that I see is that most people feel so insignificant and so irrelevant because

00:54:41.660 of the constant beat down that society puts on them, that they don't even understand the

00:54:47.740 impact that they can make by just raising their own personal standards.

00:54:51.060 And if they raise their standards, other people around them, their accountant or their neighbor

00:54:56.040 or their sister or their brother, they say, holy shit, I could be better too.

00:55:02.040 If you feel irrelevant, you will become relevant in your friend group by doing something like

00:55:06.860 this.

00:55:07.260 Yeah.

00:55:07.800 Something that happened to me is because when I was doing 75 hard, I had.

00:55:11.740 You see what I'm saying though?

00:55:12.980 Like that, that's the, we have a culture problem in America at the ground level.

00:55:16.740 It's not, this is not something that a politician can fix.

00:55:20.100 This is something that we as individuals can fix.

00:55:24.300 And it's, it's kind of cool because, you know, everybody's looking around for who's going

00:55:28.780 to fix the shit when the answer is really you.

00:55:31.300 You be the one to encourage your friends.

00:55:33.060 You be the one to change your family members' perception.

00:55:35.320 We talked about this last time where social media has made it very easy to perpetuate bad

00:55:40.080 habits.

00:55:40.500 Cause when you put some woe is me post out there, a lot of people will be like, they'll feel

00:55:44.280 bad for you.

00:55:45.400 I don't like that shit no more, no matter how sad it is.

00:55:47.900 That attention makes you feel relevant.

00:55:50.780 And so people, you know, they go to that default of being defeated all the time because it gets

00:55:55.000 attention.

00:55:56.200 Yeah.

00:55:57.520 But like I was saying, what, what people need to do is if you're the one that does this

00:56:01.080 program, you, your people around you, you know, your spouse, your, your boyfriend,

00:56:05.600 your kids, your direct family members, they will be motivated by you.

00:56:09.200 Absolutely.

00:56:09.520 And I was at a wedding in California and I was probably like day 30 or 40 in the middle

00:56:13.640 of the program.

00:56:14.740 And I mean, that's probably one of the hardest places not to drink is at a wedding.

00:56:18.060 And my girlfriend's family, um, it was one of their weddings was bugging me cause they

00:56:23.800 knew, they knew I was a drinker.

00:56:24.860 They knew that's what I liked.

00:56:25.640 Why aren't you drinking?

00:56:26.460 Why aren't you drinking?

00:56:27.580 And I didn't even have to defend myself.

00:56:29.020 My girlfriend stood up and I could tell just by the way she said it, she was proud of

00:56:33.120 me.

00:56:33.260 She's like, Oh, he's doing that 75 hard program.

00:56:35.400 He doesn't need any of this right now.

00:56:36.760 And the way she like came to bat for me, I remember thinking, damn, like she, I could

00:56:41.640 feel the pride in her voice that I had gone that far in a program that was that difficult

00:56:48.180 for me because she knew that by me getting better, it was going to help our relationship

00:56:53.800 and it was going to have a better life for our son.

00:56:56.260 And that was very motivating for me to have her go to bat for me like that, bro.

00:57:01.840 That's those are huge moments.

00:57:03.800 Yeah.

00:57:04.040 And it started realizing, well, you probably realized, damn, I got an awesome girlfriend.

00:57:10.100 Yeah, exactly.

00:57:10.860 It made me feel just like very, um, almost like wanted, like she wanted me as her boyfriend

00:57:18.740 in that moment.

00:57:19.380 Cause she was proud to talk about what I'd done.

00:57:22.000 And she was looking at everyone trying to like peer pressure me into something as almost

00:57:26.140 like being lesser than.

00:57:27.420 Yeah.

00:57:28.080 And I mean, I've been on the other side of that.

00:57:29.880 And I used to, I used to always be trying to get my friends to drink.

00:57:32.000 My friends, like you're so, I'm trying to hurt you.

00:57:34.160 It's because like, bro, I like, I understand that.

00:57:36.840 Like we have a lot of fun.

00:57:37.800 We fucking party.

00:57:38.620 You know what I'm saying?

00:57:39.300 Yeah.

00:57:39.620 And it's not, it's not, people feel like it's a malicious thing.

00:57:43.040 It's not that it's not, they're just not aware.

00:57:45.120 Yeah.

00:57:45.400 And it, it feels better when you're not the only one fucked up.

00:57:48.240 Yeah.

00:57:48.700 Yeah, for sure.

00:57:49.420 Like it feels better when, cause part of you knows, you know, that person making that

00:57:54.420 choice is doing something to better themselves.

00:57:56.040 Yeah.

00:57:56.560 And whether subconsciously or not, um, you're aware that they're doing something better

00:58:01.660 than you are.

00:58:02.060 You're like, okay, if I can get this person to drink with me now, we're both down this

00:58:04.480 level of being stupid, right?

00:58:05.500 Yeah.

00:58:05.740 No shit.

00:58:06.380 And it's just, it's just, it's the reason why people always want to do drugs with other

00:58:09.260 people.

00:58:09.720 Yeah.

00:58:10.260 It's just that, that shared experience.

00:58:12.600 And people talk about how they connect over drug use.

00:58:14.500 It's like, yeah, you connect to her drug use in the fact that you both are doing something

00:58:17.640 fucking dumb.

00:58:18.440 Yeah.

00:58:19.000 And it makes you feel closer to that person.

00:58:20.940 Yeah.

00:58:21.240 Um, it's like, yeah, when, when people are trying to encourage you to drink, it's not

00:58:24.000 malicious, but I think subconsciously you crave being on the same level.

00:58:29.320 Dude, what do you think?

00:58:32.900 Like when we talk about the alcohol use, I've, I've become, I've come to see alcohol as a

00:58:40.940 little bit different than what I used to see it as.

00:58:43.240 Like, do you, have you ever, this is kind of a weird, like, I can't help but think this

00:58:50.000 just because of what the fuck is going on.

00:58:51.840 But like, do you ever think like, man, it's really fucked up how hard they push alcohol

00:58:56.680 into the society that we live in as a norm thing.

00:58:59.020 Like it, like it, like I look at it now and I'm like, I see it differently.

00:59:04.820 And bro, by the way, I still drink.

00:59:06.900 I just don't drink very often.

00:59:08.580 On the same way.

00:59:09.140 Like when I'm not on the program, I'll drink here and there.

00:59:11.240 I love a good fucking cocktail and I love a good bourbon, but I don't let myself get

00:59:15.580 drunk to the point that I feel, um, out of control.

00:59:18.740 Right.

00:59:19.240 Because I almost feel like, like you're saying, I feel like there is a, there's a desire of

00:59:25.220 some elitist or people above you to get you into that state of being stupid.

00:59:28.660 Bro, that's what I'm getting at.

00:59:29.940 So you're, you're picking up what I'm laying down.

00:59:32.580 Dude, motherfucker.

00:59:34.140 They pushed this shit on us to make us dumb and stupid and dependent on it so they can fucking

00:59:39.480 take from us.

00:59:40.520 Like, that's how I see it.

00:59:41.920 Well, so now I see the surprise, the sobriety aspect of it.

00:59:45.040 I'm like, oh, fuck you guys.

00:59:47.000 I see that too.

00:59:47.900 It's like, uh, what was it?

00:59:49.180 Caesar that said, like, give them bread, wine and games.

00:59:51.660 You know, you can pull off anything behind their back.

00:59:55.000 Um, and what we got, we got fucking fast food.

00:59:57.940 We got delivery pizza.

00:59:59.240 We got alcohol and every single fucking social environment and every single commercial telling

01:00:04.500 you that if you drink, you're awesome.

01:00:05.820 Um, we got fucking every sports team out there now propagating more information.

01:00:12.480 Like, it's fucking crazy.

01:00:13.600 Like, it's, it's like you're, I'm seeing the matrix.

01:00:16.420 Like I see it.

01:00:18.300 Like my brother just watched the matrix for the first time ever.

01:00:21.100 The fuck?

01:00:21.800 I know.

01:00:22.100 Is he friends with DJ?

01:00:23.040 I don't, I guess.

01:00:24.040 So, and he was like, those guys don't watch anything.

01:00:27.040 So I was like, man, like now I kind of see what you're saying.

01:00:31.360 I'm like, yeah, bro.

01:00:32.560 Like I'm the dude staring at the fucking screen that everybody else is looking at and it looks

01:00:36.400 like zeros and ones.

01:00:37.400 And I'm like, nah, this is, I actually see what.

01:00:40.720 Have you read the book, the mastery of life by Don Miguel Ruiz Jr.

01:00:44.920 So it's the son of the man who wrote the four agreements.

01:00:48.180 Um, in the beginning of the master book, I've read all the Ruiz family books.

01:00:52.860 Um, I'd, I'd read them before, but in 75 hard and other phases, I'd gone back and read

01:00:57.180 them all again.

01:00:58.300 Um, in the opening of that mastery of life book, he says that when he's, I'm like,

01:01:02.560 you get to a point in your life where you feel like you're meant for something more.

01:01:05.900 It's like going to a party and you're the only sober one and everyone's drunk and they're

01:01:09.640 living in the drama and they're living in the drama and you can't, it's like, if you've

01:01:14.160 ever been sober and had a conversation with a drunk friend about something serious, you

01:01:17.520 can't have the conversation.

01:01:19.000 No, it won't happen.

01:01:20.420 And so he says, when you feel like your life is meant for more, you know, you're trying

01:01:23.960 to talk to people that are drunk at the party.

01:01:25.640 Still, they're not going to understand until they're, you can tell your friend, the mastery

01:01:30.940 of life.

01:01:31.480 Okay.

01:01:31.900 It's the analogy he makes up front.

01:01:33.960 Um, and it's really true.

01:01:35.680 Like when your friend's drunk, you say, Oh, we'll have this conversation tomorrow.

01:01:38.580 Like some people just aren't ready to hear what they are capable of.

01:01:46.380 And I, I, the matrix made me think of that because you know, the people that choose, you

01:01:50.700 know, I think it's his name's Cyrus or whatever in the movie that chooses to go back because

01:01:54.720 he wants to enjoy the steak again and stuff.

01:01:56.800 A lot of people choose to not accept their, they choose to not accept their power because

01:02:05.200 it's uncomfortable.

01:02:07.500 Um, and that's one thing this program did for me is it helped me realize that I am capable

01:02:11.040 of a lot more.

01:02:11.760 And, you know, an interesting story too, about talking about, you know, being around the

01:02:17.000 party scene is one of the days of studying five hard, I was in Las Vegas and I was gambling

01:02:23.460 roulette and I was sober and I won a couple thousand dollars and I was sober enough to

01:02:26.660 walk away from the table.

01:02:27.760 And I was like, fuck yeah, there's a win right there.

01:02:29.720 If I was drunk, I would have kept playing.

01:02:31.300 Um, and then the next morning I got up at five to go for a run and I was running down

01:02:35.940 the strip and it was one of the rare days that rains in Vegas too.

01:02:38.900 So I'm running down the strip in the rain and I'm watching people stumble out of cabs,

01:02:43.500 going back to their hotels, people that have been out at clubs all night.

01:02:45.920 And I used to revel in that.

01:02:47.320 I used to think, you know, the all nighter was like the ultimate badge of honor.

01:02:50.540 Yeah.

01:02:51.360 And I'm just watching these people and I remember thinking to myself, man, this is so much better

01:02:56.560 than what they're doing right now.

01:02:57.700 Yeah.

01:02:58.080 Like I'm actually kicking Vegas's ass right now.

01:03:00.300 Yeah.

01:03:00.680 I won money from the casino.

01:03:02.020 I'm out and bettering myself.

01:03:03.620 And then as I was running back, I think I might've told you this story.

01:03:07.740 I saw a man harassing a girl with a backpack and I stopped and I asked her, I said, are

01:03:14.900 you okay?

01:03:16.080 And she said, no, this guy won't leave me alone.

01:03:18.520 And he kept saying to her, let me hold this for you.

01:03:20.560 I'll put it in my car.

01:03:21.300 Let me hold this for you.

01:03:21.980 I'll put it in my car.

01:03:23.340 And as soon as I came up, he turned and walked away.

01:03:26.020 And I walked her back to her hotel and I was thinking about it later.

01:03:29.980 And I'm pretty sure I stopped that gal from getting kidnapped.

01:03:34.580 I think the goal was to grab that backpack, throw it in the car.

01:03:37.860 And as she goes to try and get it, throw her in the car as well.

01:03:40.180 It just, it just had that vibe.

01:03:42.080 Yeah.

01:03:42.560 And I remember telling my girlfriend, I was like, the coolest thing happened to me this

01:03:45.760 morning because I was out bettering myself.

01:03:48.160 I was in a position to help somebody.

01:03:50.820 And had I not been out running, had I not been on this program, you talk about things

01:03:54.620 in your life that just happened.

01:03:55.940 Yeah.

01:03:56.740 There was a bigger reason that happened.

01:03:58.800 I would, there was no one else around.

01:04:00.400 It was this area of the strip.

01:04:01.360 That's amazing, dude.

01:04:02.320 I was there and I would not have been there had I not been doing the program.

01:04:06.240 And it happened to be again one time with an animal though.

01:04:09.300 I was in Tallahassee and I was out doing my night walk with my dog wearing a 40 pound pack

01:04:13.840 in the fucking rain.

01:04:15.020 And I found a stranded kitten and I walked by it.

01:04:17.920 My dog identified it.

01:04:19.080 And I looked at it and I was like, well, shit, I can't just let this be.

01:04:23.100 So I took the kitten, me and my buddy put it in a shoebox, drove like a 45 minutes to

01:04:28.020 the only vet clinic that was open to drop the cat off.

01:04:30.220 And then I went back and did my fucking walk.

01:04:32.820 And if that had happened to me years ago, I would just kept walking.

01:04:37.740 Yeah.

01:04:38.520 Shamefully, I would have been like, I would have been like, oh, it's a stray cat.

01:04:41.100 Yeah.

01:04:41.560 But because I was in this hyper mindset of trying to better the world around me, I just felt

01:04:46.020 like I have to save this kitten.

01:04:47.540 And it probably would have died that night.

01:04:48.620 I mean, if you've seen a Florida, it's like flood streets kind of thing.

01:04:54.480 And so like, not only did 75 hard allow me to motivate people around me, it actually put

01:05:01.180 me in positions to help in ways that never would have happened.

01:05:04.800 And I thought that was so cool.

01:05:06.480 And just those weird little, you know, people call it like, you know, fate kind of things.

01:05:11.480 It was just, I feel like it was just meant to happen.

01:05:13.940 Dude, don't you feel though, like, like karmically?

01:05:19.120 Like, I don't know.

01:05:19.860 Like, I don't know.

01:05:20.400 We have never talked religious beliefs or anything, but I do believe there is a karmic

01:05:24.680 law to the universe.

01:05:26.080 I believe in karma for sure.

01:05:27.420 Yeah, for sure, dude.

01:05:28.360 And like, I see it as a bank account.

01:05:30.400 Like, it doesn't automatically, like, you don't, like people think of it like as an

01:05:36.460 instant thing.

01:05:37.440 Like, if I do something good today, I'm going to get something back.

01:05:39.720 And they think of it being like exactly the same.

01:05:41.860 Yes.

01:05:42.280 And it's not.

01:05:42.620 Like you're going to get the exact same thing.

01:05:44.160 You're not.

01:05:44.380 It's about creating, it's about a bank account and the more good shit you do, you're making

01:05:50.800 deposits into that bank account, regardless if it's something as small as picking up somebody

01:05:57.660 else's trash that you happen to notice in your, wherever you are or something huge, like

01:06:03.740 saving a woman from getting kidnapped.

01:06:05.700 Those are deposits into that bank account.

01:06:08.560 And, you know, the withdrawals, we're not in control of when we get them.

01:06:12.800 It's like the law of attraction.

01:06:13.780 Yeah.

01:06:14.000 Yeah.

01:06:14.380 You're not.

01:06:14.900 That's why it's important to pay attention to those things.

01:06:16.800 It's not going to come the exact way you want.

01:06:18.620 Yeah.

01:06:19.140 Karma or the law of attraction stuff.

01:06:20.720 Yeah.

01:06:20.780 But you need to pay attention to what does come your way because as soon as you have

01:06:24.380 that gratitude, like life really does change.

01:06:28.320 Like if everybody made their life decisions based upon a karmic bank account, think about

01:06:34.400 what the world would actually look like.

01:06:37.140 Drastically different.

01:06:38.080 Yeah.

01:06:38.400 Like in a way, it would be, you know, that, you know, Atlantis kind of world where everyone's

01:06:43.380 exceeding their capabilities.

01:06:45.560 And it's just a bunch of people that are operating that peak capacity for whatever they're meant

01:06:49.680 to do, bro.

01:06:50.520 I think that's, I think it's real.

01:06:52.180 Like, I think that's, I think that's real shit.

01:06:54.820 Like I've lived long enough and I'm old enough and I've had enough of experience living this

01:07:00.620 way.

01:07:00.960 I think it's absolutely 100% real.

01:07:03.800 I agree in the energy output.

01:07:05.600 Yeah.

01:07:06.200 I know you said we haven't talked about religion, but real quickly, you know, I grew up very

01:07:09.120 Christian.

01:07:09.520 I grew up Mormon.

01:07:10.220 Yeah.

01:07:10.440 I'm not anymore.

01:07:11.340 I wouldn't even consider myself Christian now, but when I had a really bad bout of depression

01:07:15.580 in 2019, and this is when I actually was suicidal for the first time in my life.

01:07:20.020 Like I really ruminated on it and I was, it was, it was getting to the point that I was

01:07:24.080 afraid I was going to do it one night.

01:07:26.540 Coming out of that, I really-

01:07:28.940 Were you drinking a lot then?

01:07:29.660 What's that?

01:07:30.080 Were you drinking then?

01:07:30.720 Yeah.

01:07:31.100 Yeah.

01:07:31.620 Yeah.

01:07:31.880 Yeah.

01:07:32.040 I was, it was, it was when I first moved to LA and I fucking hated living in LA and it

01:07:36.000 was, everything was, everything was not good in my life and I wasn't allowing

01:07:39.160 myself to get out of it.

01:07:40.740 Um, but I, I sobered up for a long time.

01:07:44.060 I actually, it was the first time I ever tried to be sober.

01:07:45.780 I told myself I was going to be sober for a hundred days just to see how my life would

01:07:49.300 change.

01:07:49.980 And I was having a conversation with someone on a rooftop at a bar, you know, coincidentally

01:07:54.040 after that, and we were talking about religion and I said, you know what, I am not religious,

01:07:59.340 but what I just went through the past, you know, a hundred days, I realized we're all

01:08:03.960 connected by energy and whatever you want to call that energy or whatever, you know, you

01:08:09.420 want to attribute that energy to, we are connected.

01:08:12.800 And to me, it seems incredibly fucking sad and purposeless to not believe that.

01:08:19.860 Yeah.

01:08:20.220 Like, so just, just me, you know, still not being religious, but accepting the fact that

01:08:25.300 we're all connected by energy.

01:08:26.560 That's what opened me up to like law of attraction, you know, karma, ghosts, all that kind of shit.

01:08:32.940 Um, is when once I really believed it, cause you hear people say all the time, like, Oh,

01:08:37.300 I don't like that person's energy or, you know, the energy you put out there, it comes back

01:08:41.480 to you.

01:08:41.740 Once I really believed it, well, my life changed.

01:08:44.320 Yeah.

01:08:44.640 My life absolutely changed.

01:08:46.960 I noticed things.

01:08:48.120 I'm more creative and everything feels so much more possible than before.

01:08:54.680 Um, dude, I get it, man.

01:08:57.040 And yeah, 75 hard.

01:08:58.440 It's not something that you can explain.

01:09:00.680 Like you, you guys listening.

01:09:02.520 There's a lot of people right now who are like, yeah, I get it.

01:09:05.560 And there's a lot of people like, what the fuck are these guys talking about?

01:09:08.300 It's like, it's like, I just said, we're sober talking to the drunks at the party.

01:09:11.040 Yeah.

01:09:11.320 Yeah, man.

01:09:11.920 It's one of those things that until it happens to you, it actually happens.

01:09:15.660 Like there's, it's, it's, uh, I don't know if you've read, uh, anything by Steven Pressfield.

01:09:20.220 He has a book called turning pro.

01:09:22.100 Um, and he says, you can divide your life into two parts when you're an amateur, when you're

01:09:25.240 pro and the moment you turn pro, you'll remember when that happens.

01:09:29.340 Um, and he talks about all these writers and musicians sharing their experience.

01:09:33.500 And it's all something like that.

01:09:35.080 It's something where people are really down or feel really just, you know, out of, out

01:09:40.640 of their luck and something happens to them that makes them actually deep, deeply believe

01:09:45.160 they're meant for more.

01:09:46.440 Yeah.

01:09:47.000 And that's when you become a real artist.

01:09:48.780 That's when you become a real writer, a real musician.

01:09:51.600 Um, and it happens to some people at the beginning of their career and it happens to some people

01:09:54.620 10 years into their career.

01:09:55.800 When did it happen for you?

01:09:57.720 Um, yeah.

01:09:59.340 Um, probably, man, like embarrassingly enough, probably two months ago, I think two months

01:10:07.980 ago was when I really realized how much power I had.

01:10:12.960 I don't think that's embarrassing.

01:10:14.260 Um, I, it's one of those things where I wish I would have known sooner.

01:10:16.880 Well, yeah, but see, I feel that I've just personally discovered that recently as well.

01:10:22.220 Like recently, like within the last 12 months or so.

01:10:27.260 Um, so I don't think that's embarrassing.

01:10:30.220 And I, I, you know, I'd already, my son was probably, you know, he's probably eight months

01:10:34.320 old at the time by then.

01:10:35.480 And I'd had enough under my belt of fatherhood to realize how much of an impact I have on

01:10:39.440 his life.

01:10:40.000 And I can't remember exactly when it was, but I know the walk I was on when it happened.

01:10:45.980 I was on a walk one morning.

01:10:47.740 I wasn't on the program, but I'll still keep up with my morning walks because I find they

01:10:51.200 helped me, you know, write.

01:10:52.260 I was on a walk.

01:10:53.380 It was a hot, sweaty day.

01:10:54.980 And I was listening to barnaral beats, which is something I've gotten on, gotten into recently

01:10:59.160 to, um, that whole like theta brain process.

01:11:03.240 Um, it's why, you know, driving or showering, you have really good thoughts because your brain's

01:11:08.200 in a theta state and that unlocks your creativity.

01:11:10.460 And so when I walk, I'll try and listen to barnaral beats in the theta state, um, real hippy

01:11:14.700 dippy shit, but no, it's real shit.

01:11:16.800 I know it is real shit.

01:11:18.160 And I was doing that on one of my walks.

01:11:20.080 I remember just thinking on this walk, I was like, man.

01:11:22.880 I am meant for something and I don't know what it is yet.

01:11:25.620 And I, I have no idea what it's going to be, but I truly feel like my mark on this world

01:11:30.960 is going to be bigger than anything I ever thought it could be.

01:11:33.540 And this was coming off, you know, when I first got my major publishing deal, I remember

01:11:37.600 thinking, oh fuck.

01:11:38.640 Yeah.

01:11:38.760 This is like, this is it.

01:11:40.400 All of that feels so minuscule to what I know is coming.

01:11:44.880 I just don't know what it is yet.

01:11:45.860 And it was on that walk and I came back and I just remember like feeling just almost like

01:11:49.900 high, like elated that I just had this awakening of what I can really do with my life.

01:11:54.560 And it changed the way I wanted to approach my writing.

01:11:57.900 It changed the, the way I wanted to live.

01:12:00.200 Like I haven't been out to like a restaurant in Miami in a long time.

01:12:04.600 Like I just, I used to always like going out, I like being very social and now I'm just

01:12:08.360 like, no, I just got to stay home.

01:12:09.320 And like when I'm home, when I'm not traveling for work, I need to be working on whatever

01:12:12.560 this is.

01:12:13.740 And I just, I'm hyper focused.

01:12:17.320 Um, and I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.

01:12:19.640 Cause I know that if I do that, I'll discover what that is.

01:12:22.120 Yeah.

01:12:22.720 That's amazing.

01:12:23.320 And it's going to be fucking cool.

01:12:24.880 Yep.

01:12:25.620 No shit.

01:12:26.340 I mean, the coolest thing is look at all the shit you've accomplished before you even figured

01:12:29.860 it out.

01:12:30.580 Like, that's what happened to me.

01:12:31.820 Like I look, like, cause dude, you know, I have people tell me all the time.

01:12:36.160 They're like, why do you continue to like work like you do or do what you do when you

01:12:41.620 don't have to and all this shit.

01:12:42.880 And it's like, bro, because my idea of what I'm here to do is not this.

01:12:47.080 Like, it's not just this.

01:12:48.800 Like I I'm fucking 42, dude.

01:12:52.020 I'm not, I'm not 142.

01:12:54.420 Like I have just started what the fuck I'm going to do.

01:12:57.180 And, you know, when I think about the greatest people who have impacted the world, you know,

01:13:06.740 these are people that didn't stop.

01:13:08.460 They never stopped.

01:13:09.760 You know, their, their story goes from when they were born to when they die.

01:13:15.020 You know what I'm saying?

01:13:16.320 And when you think of like, you don't ever hear of someone who changed the world or who

01:13:21.020 was remembered or who, who mattered or who affected people with a half-life story.

01:13:26.200 Like you don't, you don't like there, maybe, maybe they had a short life, but during their

01:13:32.400 time here, they were continuously progressing.

01:13:36.340 And I think there were all people who believed in the connectedness of the universe.

01:13:42.720 A hundred percent.

01:13:44.520 When you go back and read some of these greats, you know, everyone, everyone likes to look to

01:13:48.920 the like Egyptians or the Romans is like these cultures that were so intelligent.

01:13:52.020 And all of them believed in some kind of weird connectedness to the world, whether it was

01:13:56.480 through their multiple gods or through the way they, you know, revered plants and rock

01:14:01.140 structures.

01:14:02.440 You have to believe you're connected to something to really open yourself up to what you could

01:14:07.280 be capable of doing.

01:14:08.800 Yeah.

01:14:09.040 And, uh, that's one thing that 75 hard really, really helped me.

01:14:14.660 And that doesn't come from an arrogant place.

01:14:16.580 It comes from a humble place.

01:14:17.840 It does.

01:14:18.420 Yeah.

01:14:18.740 Yeah.

01:14:18.900 Once you, once you realize that there's something bigger that you're meant for, you realize

01:14:21.920 how minuscule you are.

01:14:23.040 People hear it as arrogance.

01:14:24.240 They're like, Oh, you accomplished so much.

01:14:25.960 And you say, you're just getting started.

01:14:27.560 That's not no motherfucker.

01:14:28.980 That's me knowing that I haven't really done shit.

01:14:31.080 The thing is like for, for all they know, the thing that you're going to do, that's huge

01:14:34.560 has nothing to do with finance.

01:14:35.680 I know for sure it doesn't, it could be something that's just incredibly impactful.

01:14:39.900 Like you think of how many authors have written a book that a hundred years later is still

01:14:43.860 look back on it.

01:14:44.520 Like, you know, you look at all this, this, you know, new wave of stoicism, how people

01:14:48.200 look to Marcus Aurelius and that guy's thousands of years ago wrote stuff down that has impacted

01:14:53.960 the world and leaders and, you know, countries for decades, centuries after he lived.

01:14:59.480 And when he wrote that down, he probably wasn't thinking that a lot of the stuff was meditations

01:15:03.240 to himself.

01:15:04.000 Um, that kind of stuff motivates me to think you can create something that just lives on

01:15:08.780 well beyond your years.

01:15:10.400 I think too, I think, and this is just the writer, the, the, the amateur writer in me.

01:15:16.520 Um, I think when you have the realizations authentically and express them authentically in your own

01:15:23.220 voice, they have the best impact.

01:15:27.360 Oh, absolutely.

01:15:28.340 Yeah.

01:15:28.760 People can't relate to things that are fake.

01:15:30.340 The thing that you or I say is new, it's, it's, it, but, but I believe that you and

01:15:35.220 I both develop our own thoughts through our experiences.

01:15:38.280 And then they happen to align with other men's thoughts from hundreds of years ago.

01:15:42.700 Well, it's cause back then, I mean, people were deep thinkers.

01:15:44.980 It was encouraged.

01:15:45.880 I don't think it's as encouraged as much now.

01:15:47.320 It's suppressed.

01:15:48.060 Back then.

01:15:48.620 I mean, back then, like the government would put you on a stipend and pay you to go live

01:15:52.700 in some castle and just hang out and write books, you know, and you were like paid by

01:15:56.440 the country to do that.

01:15:57.480 And it was an honor for you to choose their country as your place to sit and work.

01:16:01.340 Um, but putting things in your own words and your own experience is that authenticity that

01:16:08.300 a lot of people are missing these days too.

01:16:10.600 And I think to develop yourself to get to that point.

01:16:13.300 Yeah.

01:16:13.660 And I think people also feel, oh, but someone else has done this before.

01:16:18.240 Why should I do it?

01:16:19.500 Yeah.

01:16:20.220 But that's exactly why you should do it.

01:16:21.840 Yeah.

01:16:22.240 Because the person that did it before said it before, obviously it made an impact enough

01:16:25.920 for you to remember it.

01:16:26.920 So why can't you take the same thing and try and convey it in your own life experience and

01:16:31.260 have just as much of an impact?

01:16:32.660 Yeah.

01:16:32.860 And maybe, maybe, maybe teach it to others through your own example.

01:16:36.800 Yeah.

01:16:37.280 Like all of us are going to fucking die, bro.

01:16:40.000 Like there's money and shit and like all this shit that people think matters doesn't fucking

01:16:46.120 matter.

01:16:46.640 We're going to be fucking dead.

01:16:48.040 Like I like, like, like it's, it's bizarre to me that people don't understand that.

01:16:53.140 Like you are going to cease to exist in this world.

01:16:59.480 Okay.

01:16:59.940 You're not, there's no denying that.

01:17:03.900 So like people make these decisions about their, like, this is a little example, but

01:17:09.860 it's funny to me.

01:17:10.620 It doesn't make any sense to me.

01:17:12.040 I'm a big car guy.

01:17:13.360 Collect cars.

01:17:14.440 You are?

01:17:14.860 I had no idea.

01:17:15.680 Yeah.

01:17:15.960 Well, you know, like the other guys who are car guys, they don't drive their shit.

01:17:21.120 Like, and they just park it in the garage and like, go look at it.

01:17:23.820 I fucking rip the fuck out of everything I drive.

01:17:26.540 Yeah.

01:17:26.780 And people are like, oh, aren't you worried?

01:17:28.620 I said, bro, I'm going to be fucking dead.

01:17:31.200 Yeah.

01:17:31.480 I don't give a fuck what, how many miles this car has on it or what, like, it's an experience

01:17:36.640 that I'm experiencing.

01:17:38.360 And you know, it's interesting to me that people lack the awareness to understand that

01:17:44.700 the impact that they have on the people around them is actually your legacy.

01:17:52.020 You know what I mean?

01:17:52.920 Like, that's going to be your legacy.

01:17:54.660 Like, you may not get a statue built to you.

01:17:57.800 Maybe you don't write a book.

01:17:59.080 Maybe you should write a book.

01:18:00.260 But the point of the matter is at the very base level, you know, especially for parents,

01:18:05.780 you know, your legacy is your kids.

01:18:08.140 So what are you teaching them with how you're behaving and what standards are you holding?

01:18:11.480 And to me, that seems like something that would come naturally if I were a parent.

01:18:19.120 Like, I would understand that.

01:18:20.180 But it doesn't seem like society's seeing this as a whole anymore.

01:18:24.440 They all feel irrelevant.

01:18:25.760 They feel powerless.

01:18:26.660 They feel hopeless.

01:18:27.780 And they feel like it doesn't fucking matter.

01:18:29.640 I think social media has made us very short-sighted.

01:18:31.820 I agree.

01:18:32.480 Another quote, I can't remember who wrote this.

01:18:34.140 I probably should have had this coming in.

01:18:36.000 The biggest mistake we make in life is thinking we have time.

01:18:38.860 Yeah.

01:18:39.060 I can't remember who wrote that quote, but it's very profound in the sense that you always

01:18:43.860 feel like you can do it tomorrow or do it the next week.

01:18:46.440 And, you know, like people that are debating whether or not to do something like 75 hard,

01:18:50.700 they say, oh, I'll start it, you know, when this happens or that happens.

01:18:53.000 You don't know if that's going to happen.

01:18:54.580 You really don't know.

01:18:55.860 Like, your life could be over in two hours.

01:18:57.480 It could be over in two years.

01:18:58.280 It could be over in 20 years.

01:18:59.120 And that's why realizing you don't have the time and you should just try and do everything

01:19:05.500 you can with your life now will dramatically change the way you live.

01:19:09.340 And when you talk about legacy, the coolest thing about legacy to me is there's no cap

01:19:12.780 on it.

01:19:13.480 No.

01:19:13.680 You don't know how big your legacy can go.

01:19:15.620 And you don't know how many people that can affect.

01:19:17.420 You know, going back to the ripple effect.

01:19:18.700 But just something you, some conversation you have with a random stranger one day can

01:19:24.460 change the way they approach their next encounter.

01:19:26.840 And it can just keep going down the line.

01:19:28.960 And people don't acknowledge how much power they have in just small things like that,

01:19:33.240 like acts of kindness and stuff like that.

01:19:35.380 What about, you know, like something I observed too on legacy is that a lot of people try to

01:19:40.640 intentionally create their legacy and design it.

01:19:44.360 They want to be remembered a certain way.

01:19:46.100 When in reality, the only way to have a legacy is to live an authentic life for who the fuck

01:19:50.760 you really are, because you require that much passion and that much energy to affect

01:19:54.820 people in that way.

01:19:56.860 So like, you know, I had a guy once tell me he wanted a statues of himself.

01:20:01.340 I said, what are you, what are you trying to accomplish, bro?

01:20:02.920 And pay to get one made because you don't know if someone else is going to.

01:20:05.620 Yeah.

01:20:05.800 But like he, he was like, I'm like, what are you trying to accomplish?

01:20:09.020 And he's like, well, I want to have statues of myself and this and this and this.

01:20:11.940 I said, that's not, that's, that's the result of accomplishing something.

01:20:17.280 What are you trying to accomplish?

01:20:19.600 And he had a hard time grasping that.

01:20:22.320 And I'm like, look, dude, it's just like money, money.

01:20:25.800 You, you, the mission isn't money.

01:20:27.580 The mission is solving a problem and the money comes as a by-product.

01:20:30.500 And when you, when you think about your legacy, it's not, you get to design your legacy for

01:20:35.640 what the fuck it's going to be.

01:20:36.920 It's that you have to live to your maximum potential and to, to create a positive impact

01:20:42.600 on others in a way that they decide what your legacy is going to be.

01:20:47.980 I think to put it simply, like what you're describing is the difference between a project

01:20:51.140 and a purpose.

01:20:51.940 Yeah.

01:20:52.360 Like trying to create your own legacy is a project.

01:20:54.460 Like you've, you've identified that goal.

01:20:56.400 The project is to brand yourself for a certain way.

01:20:58.480 Whereas if you're just focused on a purpose, you can't help, but live authentically.

01:21:03.160 Right.

01:21:03.280 When a purpose drives you, like you said, you have the energy to put into it that you wouldn't

01:21:08.520 into something else.

01:21:09.660 Right.

01:21:09.820 And so it all comes from just finding that purpose.

01:21:12.220 And it sounds really cliche to say that because a lot of people all talk about finding your

01:21:15.780 purpose, but you have to actually have a purpose in life and not a project goal.

01:21:21.660 That's how you'll have the most change.

01:21:23.460 And you'll be the, you'll be the most happy too.

01:21:25.760 Like you'll be so much more happier when you're not trying to hyperactimate,

01:21:28.480 hypercontrol, the way you're viewed by the world or the way you're left behind.

01:21:31.680 Like take it from a guy who works in advertising, creating a brand and a brand voice, maintaining

01:21:36.560 a brand is very calculated and it fucking sucks.

01:21:39.460 Yeah.

01:21:39.660 Like a lot of the time it's really boring and it gets really fucking old and life shouldn't

01:21:43.300 feel like that.

01:21:44.000 If your life feels like a brand or you have a lot of entrepreneurs that listen to this

01:21:47.240 podcast, if you're trying to brand yourself as a person, you need to fucking stop.

01:21:51.600 Not only that, you're going to lose.

01:21:53.180 Yeah.

01:21:53.540 You're going to lose to authenticity.

01:21:55.500 People can poke holes in brands very easy.

01:21:57.280 They can't poke holes in a real purpose.

01:21:59.240 Right.

01:21:59.400 And that's, it's interesting because I tell people all the time, authenticity is the biggest

01:22:04.300 fucking flex you could have.

01:22:05.740 Okay.

01:22:06.140 Cause what it says is I am who I am and you don't have to like that.

01:22:11.000 That's okay.

01:22:11.460 But I'm going to continue to be this.

01:22:13.560 Um, you know, a lot of people take that to the point where it's, I am who I am and fuck

01:22:17.940 you.

01:22:18.320 That's not what I'm trying to say because sometimes who you are, sometimes who you are is pretty

01:22:23.460 shitty until you create yourself to be someone of quality and value and certain standard.

01:22:29.800 Right.

01:22:30.620 Um, but yeah, dude, you know, I, my advice to you guys out there that are like, I want

01:22:36.660 to be remembered like this.

01:22:37.640 I want to be remembered like that.

01:22:38.720 Or I want to be thought of like this, leave that shit at the fucking door and start being

01:22:42.960 who the fuck you are, man.

01:22:44.140 You know, start standing for what you believe, understand that we are here to serve.

01:22:49.880 We are here to help others.

01:22:51.700 And as a result of that success will come to you.

01:22:55.520 Um, authentic success will come to you.

01:22:57.800 The success that can't be taken from you will come to you.

01:23:00.160 That's right.

01:23:00.860 Um, there's a lot of ways to make quick money or to become like a quick, you know, public

01:23:05.700 figure, but that kind of shit can be gone so fast.

01:23:09.040 But if it takes time to build and it takes time to come from authentic action, that's kind

01:23:13.600 of shit that people can't, you know, you know, talking about current society, they can't

01:23:17.000 cancel you.

01:23:17.760 No, you can't be canceled when you've built a reputation of just being you.

01:23:22.340 Yeah.

01:23:23.120 Yeah.

01:23:23.640 Because when they come to cancel, you say, yeah, that's who I've always been tough shit.

01:23:27.380 And there's a body of work people can look back on and be like, I actually have known

01:23:30.520 this person.

01:23:31.160 This person's actually like this.

01:23:32.540 You didn't suddenly crop up 15 minutes ago to where they can just derail you in a heartbeat.

01:23:37.480 Yeah.

01:23:38.260 Yeah, man.

01:23:39.340 Well, dude, this has been an awesome conversation.

01:23:42.360 Like all our conversations.

01:23:44.260 But I do want to start wrapping it up.

01:23:47.400 You know, can you speak a little bit to the people out there that think this is a fucking

01:23:51.520 challenge and not a program?

01:23:54.600 Because I think one of the things I've appreciated is that you always are intentional about calling

01:23:59.400 it a program.

01:24:00.320 Because it is.

01:24:01.080 When people call it a challenge, dude, it infuriates the fuck out of me.

01:24:04.000 But then I realized it's not a terrible thing because it kind of gets people in it.

01:24:08.320 Yeah.

01:24:08.500 So it's like, but like, I just want to choke people that say that because I'm like, bro,

01:24:12.260 this is something that you can come back to and is intentionally designed to stay with

01:24:17.420 you for life when you get off the track.

01:24:19.760 So the difference between a challenge and a program is a challenge has a beginning and

01:24:23.680 an end.

01:24:24.660 Like you said, a program, you know, say, for example, you're going to school and you take

01:24:29.320 a course like the intention of that is to teach you for later in life.

01:24:34.140 And that's why this is the Sunday of our heart program is it really is something, like you

01:24:37.980 said, you can fall back on.

01:24:39.820 And it's all about literally reprogramming the way you view the world and reprogramming

01:24:46.140 the way you view monotonous tasks.

01:24:48.640 Um, and that's what differentiates it from all those challenges out there.

01:24:54.200 I mean, if it had just been a seven, you have hard challenge, I don't know that I ever

01:24:58.800 would have even attempted to do it because like I said, I'm not someone who like fitness

01:25:04.680 wasn't the forefront of my life.

01:25:06.000 Right.

01:25:06.340 I didn't feel like, Oh, I'm going to do this challenge.

01:25:08.300 I'm going to lose 21 pounds.

01:25:09.140 I'm going to win a fucking Lamborghini.

01:25:10.600 Like some of that shit.

01:25:11.720 It's like, no, like I really want to do this program because I want to reprogram whatever

01:25:16.260 the fuck it is in my head that is causing me to feel this way.

01:25:20.560 Um, and that is what encouraged me to try it.

01:25:25.480 And that's what's encouraged me to do the live hard program.

01:25:27.620 Like the full thing is because after I did 75 hard, I realized, okay, I think I have more

01:25:33.780 to learn.

01:25:34.460 Yeah.

01:25:35.080 Um, I, I feel good.

01:25:37.020 I know I did this, but I know I can still do more.

01:25:40.240 So I'm going to commit to this live hard program.

01:25:42.100 And like, I mean, I failed on phase two on day 16 for not taking a fucking photo.

01:25:46.260 Yeah.

01:25:46.760 And the only reason I didn't do it is because I was traveling that day and I was like,

01:25:48.800 Oh, I'll take it when I get to the hotel.

01:25:50.000 And I got to the hotel.

01:25:50.880 I did my workout.

01:25:51.680 I went to fucking bed and I woke up the next day and I looked at my phone and I was like,

01:25:54.860 mother fucker.

01:25:56.420 Yeah.

01:25:56.740 And I easily could have skipped it and kept doing it.

01:25:58.460 Yeah.

01:25:58.760 But I was like, all right, this is part of the program.

01:26:01.100 What am I learning from this?

01:26:02.680 And well, clearly you learned that integrity is essential for growth.

01:26:06.280 There's we can have a whole conversation on that topic.

01:26:09.960 We should.

01:26:10.540 Um, it's the programming aspect of how I've learned to approach these small things in my

01:26:15.800 life that helped my writing.

01:26:17.480 And I mean, I have three books in the process right now.

01:26:20.120 Like I'm just cranking through shit in time periods that I never would have thought was

01:26:25.360 previously possible to write that fast.

01:26:27.100 I used to be someone who always waited for like the muse to appear to me and waited till

01:26:30.740 I felt creative inspiration.

01:26:32.160 It was a special process.

01:26:32.820 Yeah.

01:26:33.080 I was like, Oh, I need that creative inspiration.

01:26:34.440 So I need to take three days.

01:26:35.620 It's like, no, I just fucking put in the work.

01:26:37.580 I'll just start writing.

01:26:38.700 And I mean, Steven Pressfield, that guy I talked about earlier, talks about this.

01:26:41.860 You just start writing and it comes to you and 75 hard forced me to do that by making

01:26:47.640 writing a part of my power list in phase one, completely changed the process in which I write

01:26:53.320 books.

01:26:54.680 Um, I didn't know what the question was.

01:26:57.440 No, I'm just listening to you talk about, you know, we were talking about challenge versus

01:27:01.200 program, but I mean, the, the point is, um, you know, it's a, it's a lifestyle really

01:27:08.960 like, that's what it is.

01:27:10.560 Uh, the live hard program is designed to be done every year.

01:27:14.680 Yeah.

01:27:15.100 You know, people are like, Holy shit, that sounds crazy.

01:27:17.300 No, it doesn't.

01:27:18.220 It's less than 40% of your fucking year, bro.

01:27:20.540 And if you don't fuck up, I have to start setting up hard three times like I did, or

01:27:23.880 technically eight times.

01:27:25.000 I'd fail a lot on day one or two.

01:27:26.660 Cause I'd realize I didn't want to do it yet.

01:27:27.900 Yeah.

01:27:28.380 Um, it doesn't take that long.

01:27:29.780 Yeah.

01:27:30.000 And, and dude, the quality of life that you gain from actually doing it is exponentially

01:27:38.140 better than the effort that you put into doing it.

01:27:40.860 And what's cool is if you use, I mean, I don't, I don't know if I'll do the live hard

01:27:44.160 program yearly.

01:27:44.880 We'll kind of see what happens with that.

01:27:46.140 But what's cool is if you use those times.

01:27:48.080 Yeah.

01:27:48.260 But if you get off track for, let's say you're fine for two years and then you find yourself

01:27:52.080 in a place, you can always go back.

01:27:53.600 Exactly.

01:27:54.400 What I'm saying, what's cool about it is if you do use it as a yearly thing, what you can

01:27:58.640 accomplish in those 75 or 30 day increments can actually set up the rest of your year.

01:28:02.980 A hundred percent.

01:28:03.720 Like you could be putting off a bunch of bullshit that could advance your career and advance

01:28:08.080 your life and say, okay, I'm going to put my head down for 75 days and I'm going to focus

01:28:12.500 on nothing but my, my company and my personal growth.

01:28:16.580 You could create something in 75 days that suddenly by the end of the year, you're financially

01:28:21.300 way better off.

01:28:22.240 You have all these opportunities pouring into you because you just dedicated a little bit

01:28:25.940 of a period to really grind away.

01:28:28.320 Um, and if you use it as even like to that extent, like maybe every year you take 30 days

01:28:33.660 to just buckle down and see what you can do to advance your business.

01:28:37.780 You will always gain something from doing that.

01:28:41.140 What last thing I'm going to ask, bro, what, what are you most proud of, um, through this

01:28:48.360 journey that you've, you've built inside yourself?

01:28:51.900 How I feel as a father.

01:28:54.360 Um, I feel very capable of leading by example.

01:28:59.160 And I feel that I'm someone that my son could be proud of.

01:29:04.200 Whereas the individual I was three or four years ago, particularly when I was living in

01:29:08.400 like New York city and I was traveling a lot and I was partying and everyone saw me out at

01:29:11.420 clubs and bars all the time.

01:29:13.680 I don't think that's someone that my son would look to and be like, man, my dad was cool.

01:29:16.760 He might look and be like, oh, my dad had a fun time, but damn, he fucked up.

01:29:19.980 And that's why I'm the way I am.

01:29:21.700 I feel like now my son, if I continue on this path is going to be proud to be my son.

01:29:28.600 And because of that, he's probably going to listen to me more.

01:29:31.840 He's probably going to be a lot more, um, connected to me in my later life because he's

01:29:38.220 going to feel like his dad is someone that he can rely on to get shit done and to do shit

01:29:42.320 that's hard.

01:29:43.380 And not just my son, my girlfriend looks to me that way.

01:29:46.200 I've noticed the way that she doesn't check in on me when I say I'm going to do something

01:29:50.840 like she doesn't have like that, like, oh, let's make sure he gets it done.

01:29:53.880 She just knows I'm going to fucking do it.

01:29:55.140 If I say I'm going to do it, my friends are the same way.

01:29:57.580 Um, a lot of my, a lot of my friends confide to me in ways I never thought they would.

01:30:02.420 Yeah.

01:30:03.080 Um, and these are friends I've had since high school.

01:30:04.880 Some of my friends are really old homies of mine and they confide to me in new ways now

01:30:09.560 because they look to me as like, all right, this guy just hammers shit out.

01:30:13.020 I can go to Kyle with this and he's probably going to help me get through this shit or

01:30:16.880 he's going to put me in the right direction to do it.

01:30:18.820 And that's what I'm most proud of is really, you know, it comes down to, uh, being a leader.

01:30:23.340 Yeah.

01:30:23.980 It's really a leader for my son, a leader for my, my immediate friends and my community

01:30:28.440 and those around me.

01:30:29.300 And it's, I don't think you can put a price on what that's worth because whatever, whatever

01:30:35.900 you choose to do with that career or personally, you can have so much fucking impact.

01:30:41.160 Yeah.

01:30:42.340 Well, bro, I have thoroughly enjoyed this show, man.

01:30:46.340 We could go on and on and on and on and on.

01:30:48.420 And, uh, you know, we'll definitely do another one at some point.

01:30:51.520 Absolutely.

01:30:52.420 Bro.

01:30:52.800 Thank you for everything that you do.

01:30:54.300 Thank you for your work, your writing.

01:30:56.380 If you guys haven't read Kyle's books, um, you should, where's the best place for them

01:31:01.020 to pick up the books?

01:31:02.080 Um, actually Amazon of all places.

01:31:03.880 Um, a lot of people like to knock Amazon, but for authors, they, they write under the

01:31:07.520 name, the captain, I write under the name, the captain.

01:31:09.360 But if you search speech therapy or fucking history, and I have a series of quote books

01:31:13.220 as well, um, they're all available on Amazon.

01:31:15.640 Yeah.

01:31:16.240 Well, bro, thank you for making the trip up.

01:31:18.900 Thanks for blessing us with your knowledge and your experience, man.

01:31:21.620 And, uh, I'm super appreciative of the friendship and everything that we've got going on.

01:31:25.400 And, uh, um, yeah, man, it's just, this is a fucking awesome show.

01:31:30.160 Absolutely.

01:31:30.660 Thanks for having me.

01:31:31.420 Yeah.

01:31:31.600 You're welcome.

01:31:32.180 So it's episode two Oh eight, where it'll go through the entire program of 75 hard and

01:31:37.000 live hard.

01:31:37.720 And, uh, it's free there.

01:31:39.100 It is not something that we charge for.

01:31:41.680 Uh, so go listen to that episode.

01:31:43.380 There is a book on my website that you can buy as well.

01:31:46.280 It's not necessary.

01:31:47.160 It goes into more detail than, uh, what the show does, but you don't need it.

01:31:51.280 Uh, but if you want to buy it, cool too.

01:31:53.100 I think you'll enjoy it.

01:31:54.000 So, so real, real quickly, I'm going to jump in here for you.

01:31:56.520 And the fact that the program is free is how, you know, it has real value.

01:31:59.620 Yeah.

01:32:00.580 Um, well, I didn't want to get fucking attacked like for the, Oh, just trying to make money.

01:32:04.220 Motherfucker.

01:32:04.600 No, but this is how we fix people.

01:32:06.360 That's how you know there's real value in it.

01:32:07.640 You see a lot of life coaching programs and they're all like where they price at 997.

01:32:11.580 Yeah.

01:32:11.960 It's like this price they all use.

01:32:13.280 When you see that shit.

01:32:15.280 Yeah.

01:32:15.880 I bet half the time it's absolute garbage.

01:32:18.300 It's a straight money.

01:32:19.180 Here's what I challenge you to do.

01:32:20.960 Go look at every single one of those motherfuckers and what they've actually accomplished and how

01:32:25.780 they live their life, what they look like, what their discipline looks like, what their

01:32:29.000 business looks like.

01:32:29.880 Yeah.

01:32:30.240 Compare them to me and you'll understand that's the truth.

01:32:33.960 So, and I know that's hard for some of you guys to hear, but it is the truth.

01:32:37.920 But, uh, it's free as fuck because I want to help people, dude.

01:32:42.360 That's it.

01:32:43.360 Um, I do appreciate people buying the book.

01:32:45.880 It's cool because I think it's in depth, but it's definitely, I think a lot of people

01:32:49.620 buy the book after they do the program.

01:32:51.180 I bought it and I read it as part of the program just so I knew like what I was getting myself

01:32:54.900 into.

01:32:55.260 And then I've handed it off to a friend of mine.

01:32:57.600 Um, but yeah, I got a new one coming out.

01:33:00.760 Did you fix the typos in the last one?

01:33:02.640 Yes.

01:33:04.020 I actually marked him down as I was reading it.

01:33:06.060 I was like, well, I read, I went.

01:33:07.500 I went back and reread it and I was like, holy fuck.

01:33:10.520 I was like, I was like, do I be one of those guys that doesn't give me a solid and says,

01:33:13.920 Hey, I found these for you.

01:33:14.900 No, no, no.

01:33:15.080 I'm cool with that.

01:33:16.100 Like, look, that's my first book, bro.

01:33:17.620 Like, fuck dude.

01:33:18.240 We all suck at the first time.

01:33:19.480 Okay.

01:33:19.580 I put a book out.

01:33:20.760 I put a book out through Penguin Random House, one of the biggest publishers in the world

01:33:23.800 with multiple editors and there's fucking typos in it.

01:33:26.440 And bro, you know what the worst part is, is my pet peeve for people is fucking grammar

01:33:31.700 people.

01:33:32.400 I'm like, dude, shut the fuck up.

01:33:33.460 That's why I didn't say anything to you.

01:33:34.520 Yeah, no, but it's, it's, it's just like now I'm like,

01:33:37.500 every day I'm bombarded by the grammar people and like, I just have to eat it.

01:33:43.560 Cause like, this makes you feel better.

01:33:44.760 The first pressing Harry Potter, but you know what, bro, I've gotten better.

01:33:48.320 And you'll see in the new book, the new book is much better in that regard.

01:33:51.200 So real quickly, the first pressing of Harry Potter has a typo in it and it's like 75,000

01:33:55.560 copies or something.

01:33:56.460 If you have one of those copies, it's worth a lot of money.

01:33:58.580 Yeah.

01:33:58.800 Well, I think 75 hard will be that way too, because on the first run of 75 hard books,

01:34:02.940 they were all fucking, uh, the pages, remember how the pages are like, not

01:34:07.280 set on the page there there.

01:34:09.400 We got the same deal, bro.

01:34:10.500 Maybe one day.

01:34:11.440 I love it.

01:34:12.220 Yeah.

01:34:12.820 All right, bro.

01:34:13.520 I appreciate you coming on the show.

01:34:14.960 Uh, where can people find you on Instagram, Instagram, Twitter.

01:34:18.500 Yeah.

01:34:18.980 Um, I go under the handle, the captain or if you type SGR SDK.

01:34:22.400 Yeah.

01:34:22.860 Um, pretty easy to find.

01:34:24.300 Cool.

01:34:25.340 All right, guys, that's the show.

01:34:26.880 I appreciate you guys.

01:34:27.880 Love you guys.

01:34:28.320 I'll see you next time.

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01:34:32.300 Now my jewelry box froze.

01:34:34.000 Fuck a pole.

01:34:34.780 Fuck a stove.

01:34:35.660 Counted millions in the cold.

01:34:37.340 Bad bitch.

01:34:38.160 Booty swole.

01:34:39.000 Got her on bankroll.

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REAL AF with Andy Frisella - May 20, 2022

299. #75HARD vs Kyle "The Captain" Creek

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