301. Q&AF： Creating Brand Loyalty, Leadership As An Unsociable Person & Talking Politics At Work
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In this episode of The Realists, Andy and I talk about what it means to be a Realtor, what it takes to run a successful business, and why it s important to have a good night s rest.
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What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realists, say goodbye
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to the lies, to figness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality.
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Guys, today we have Q and AF, all right, if you're unfamiliar, if it's your first time
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listening, that means question and answer as fuck, I think, I'm not sure, but anyhow,
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if you're new, we got a couple different things that you need to understand here.
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Number one, we have a fee for the show, the fee is $1,000 right to my Venmo, which I don't
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Secondly, if you're new, we have multiple different formats of the show, okay?
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We have CTI, which stands for Cruise the Internet, which is where we talk about the news and we
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kind of make it funny, but we also kind of get the main points out and point out the problems
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Then we have Q and AF, which is what you're going to hear today, which is where we answer
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questions that are the solution for the problems that we point out in society.
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And then we have Real Talk, which is basically, you know, personal development talk that a
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lot of people may or may not enjoy listening to, but at the end of the day, it's going to
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And then we have Full Length, which is where I bring on interesting people, people who kick
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So in regards to the fee, if you get value out of the show, which I think you will, please
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This message, imagine, and for those of you to listen to the show, imagine if you had all
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shared the show starting two plus years ago, every single time we had got the word out
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that I've been talking about for the last two years, would we be in this position?
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It's important that you help us grow it because I'm one of the few motherfuckers that's
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going to actually talk about how we're going to fix it.
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And guys, remember too, as always, if you want to, you can email your, submit your questions
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Email those questions in to askandy at andyforceller.com.
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We had a Arte Syndicate Summit, which was amazing.
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Then we had Ed Milet's book launch for his new book that is amazing.
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I appreciate it because it means that you guys miss it.
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But, you know, hey, sometimes we got to take a breather here.
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You know, these guys here in the show, work on the show.
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So it's like, you do got a daily checklist of shit you got to get done, too.
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So it's like, people tend to forget about that, too.
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You know, maybe one day it could be, but it's not right now.
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And, I mean, we could turn this into a strong eight-figure-a-year podcast.
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But, I mean, the truth is, I don't really like doing that, first of all, because I don't
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Like, I want to say what the fuck I want to say.
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I want to say what I believed is right and what is wrong.
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And I don't want someone else thinking, because they pay me money on the show, that they can
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Like, I see what they do to Rogan sometimes, and I can't stand that shit.
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You know, but, I mean, if someone was going to fucking pay me $200 fucking million, I'd
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But I'm certainly not doing it for money I don't need.
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And, honestly, I don't think I would do it for any money.
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I don't think, I think if I wanted that kind of deal, I could go out and get that deal.
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Well, because you also understand, too, like how bad the persuasions and the power.
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Yeah, I mean, bro, he's, he, dude's a fucking amazing fucking, I mean, we're lucky, we're
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lucky as Americans to have that dude right now.
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He's definitely made Spotify sweat a few times.
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If Spotify was smart, they would swing the other way and just go with him.
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Andy, question number one, can you explain to us what makes people loyal to a brand, right?
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You've talked about how important personal branding is in the past.
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What would you say is the best way to make people loyal to your brand?
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Most people who try to create loyalty, they ask the question like this.
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What can I do to make my customers think I care about them?
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Most of you guys are caught up in this manipulation mindset.
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How can I trick my customers into thinking we care?
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And when you shift the perspective from that, which is 99% of businesses to actually caring,
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Actually providing a valuable service or a product that changes people's experience.
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And it doesn't have to be, you know, it could be anything.
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Like if you're making fucking French fries, bro, make the best fucking French fries there
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And people think, you know, oh, well, what if I sell tires?
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Well, get a, get a way, create a way that you create value for that family in ways that
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And so many people are caught up because of the way Instagram is and the way this society
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Like that's, that's big media thinking from the 70 years of the invention of radio and
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television to the invention of, of, uh, social media.
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And what people don't understand when I say that is, okay, when, when you have no customer
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feedback, you can, and we just have TV and we just have radio, we can run ads and kind
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of promise whatever the fuck we want, because it takes years and years and years for customers
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But when you create an instant feedback vacuum, like you have a social media, now you have
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to actually deliver what you promise or everybody's going to know.
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And the problem is most of these entrepreneurs out there are trying to give the very least
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And that doesn't perpetuate loyalty loyalty is I'm here for you.
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Even if it doesn't make me a fucking dollar today or $10 or a hundred dollars, or even make
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me money anytime you should be in the, in the business of solving people's shit.
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And if you actually care to improve people's life, the loyalty, we will become natural.
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It will become organic and people will value that and trying to manipulate the loyalty.
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I mean, look, there's definitely a system for this, how to do it, but the intention of
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Like if I gave you a step-by-step guide on how to create loyal customers, which I do inside
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Arte Syndicate all the fucking time, um, you, if you execute that with the wrong intent, like
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if you execute, yeah, if you execute that with the intent of, I'm still trying to get the
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most and give the least, that's what you're not going to get anything.
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And if you could fix the intent within yourself about how you provide, uh, you know, what kind
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Are you, are you the teammate who, um, wants everybody to like, look up to them?
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Are you, are you a business who's there to make as much money as possible?
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Or are you a business that exists to solve people's problems?
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If you ask people, most people, if you walk up to them on the street, say, Hey, why do
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Their answer is always almost 99.99999% of the answer will be, what do you think?
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The purpose of business is to solve fucking problems.
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And so if you want to create a brand that people care about, that love, that they make
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a part of their life, that they include in their decision-making of where they're going
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to spend their money, you have to care about them first, not last.
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And this same, this same, like if you have trouble in a team, if you're somebody who has
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trouble working with others, it's the same adjustment that needs to be made.
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Don't worry about the credit you receive and worry instead about the value you deliver.
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Would you say there's like a massive vacuum of that right now though?
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Cause like, I feel like there's a lot of faceless companies that are just like, it's just
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There's no, there's no value, real value exchange.
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Like, what are you really getting from Amazon ordering, you know, pressing a couple of buttons.
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Uh, there's an opportunity, huge opportunity, huge opportunity for you guys out there who,
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Like, you know, I look at the Nike of the world, right?
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Um, they don't represent American culture the way that most Americans believe American culture
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Um, you know, I see Nike as an amazing company, one of the most iconic brands in the world,
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but I also see people every single day fucking becoming disenfranchised with them.
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And you guys, as entrepreneurs, especially you young men and women that are listening,
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Like you're the future Nikes, you're the future, you're the future fucking, uh, big techs.
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Like, I know that's hard to, that's hard to comprehend when you're 20 years old and you
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don't have shit and you're eating fucking ramen, but like all those motherfuckers were
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So where's the opportunity and how can you capitalize on their lack of care to benefit your own
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So it's a massive opportunity because the people want it.
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I don't think that the per, I don't think the opportunity in business has ever been better
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I think it's, I think it's massive, especially culturally.
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You know, people do not want to support and it's financially proven, bro.
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Netflix fucking got their ass beat until they said, Hey, uh, fuck you.
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People are done spending their money with companies that do not represent the agenda
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This globalist, politically correct, super ultra woke strategy is clearly failing.
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And if you decide to go that route with your brand, after all the data that is, that is
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available for you, like, you know, you probably shouldn't be in business cause you're stupid.
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So, and I don't say that to insult anybody, but you have to be able to look at the real
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data of what people are wanting and deliver that.
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I mean, Top Gun had just one of the highest grossing, uh, weekends of all time.
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I now manage a team of people at my job and I'm struggling with getting their buy-in because
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How do I become more outgoing and establish myself as a good leader to my new team?
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Well, first of all, being outgoing is that's a skill in itself.
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I'm not an outgoing, passionate person by nature.
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You guys think I am, but you don't realize the practice that went into becoming me.
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And I have, uh, intentionally exercised my skillset and I've talked about this before,
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You know, I used to go into a grocery store every day for years and not leave until I introduced
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And I did that because my people skills were weak.
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And I knew that if I needed, I knew if I wanted to become what I wanted to become, I
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It's like you, you, you, you, you can build those skills.
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Second thing is, um, there's a million different leadership styles and not all of them have
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Like I, like I, in fact, I would say my leadership style isn't even that outgoing.
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I would say it's what you guys see when you see a video clip or you see me on the podcast
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and my, you know, a short clip for two to three minutes, you see me like getting passionate
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and shit and you assume that's how I am all the time.
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I know because you guys fucking message my wife and you say, what's it like living with
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And I think, you know, there's a time and place for fire and brimstone and, and getting
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And there, there's also a time and place for bringing people back down.
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And, and great leaders, they understand the inverse relationship of that.
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They understand that when everybody's panicked and everybody's uncertain and everybody's
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fucking upset that that's your cue to bring people back down a level, let them know it's
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Um, when people are complacent and when they're not understanding the urgency, that's when your job
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You do that with, with, uh, with, you know, maybe a little bit of, of, uh, enthusiasm or
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So there's, you can't judge yourself on how your leadership style is based upon what someone
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Um, in fact, I think some of the most powerful leaders in the world are literally some of the
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So, um, I'd be real careful to think that you're somehow lacking as a leader because you're
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not naturally some sort of, uh, charismatic person.
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And like, dude, I don't know the data on it, but I mean, I would say even outside of just
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leadership, man, I think people, we have lost those interpersonal like skills of just
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like knowing how to go up to a random person and just say, Hey, I think anybody should be
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Look at everybody's on these phones and it's like, when's the last time you shook a person's
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hand and yeah, but dude, the thing is, and here's the, here's the, there's opportunity
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When I was 20 years old, there wasn't smartphones.
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If you wanted to be successful in life, you had to know how to walk up to someone, initiate
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Now you don't necessarily have to know it because the technology has replaced that aspect.
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And what you have is you have a lot of people out there who are, who, who are not skilled
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in interpersonal dynamics or relationships who would be much more successful if they were
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because the people that are around them have zero people skills.
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So if you're in a socially awkward, yes, bro, look, the people who are 20 years old right
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now and 20, 20 to 30, they actually like 15 to 30, you, you guys out there, you have
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a tremendous opportunity to get way ahead of everybody to your left and to your right
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That shit that I had to have just to even function.
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So if I was a young person and I'm looking at how I could create every single advantage
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I can over everybody else, which is how you have to look at it.
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The idea of everybody holding hands, singing Kumbaya and fucking, you know, blah, blah,
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You have to be looking at yourself as a fucking, I am my own force and I need skills.
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I need to understand how to do these things that my peers don't have.
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And when you're a young person, it's important to think like that.
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What skills can I develop that my like-minded peers of the certain age don't have?
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And by doing so, you become, you stand out naturally because everybody else is abandoning
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That's the, that's the thing with technology, man.
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It's like, there's, has there been great advancements?
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But like at what cost, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, and now I think there's a massive segment of the population that's just socially awkward.
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So, I mean, I just thought we should point that out.
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Well, I mean, also like, but knowing that it is a skill to build though.
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Like they've created a technology where everybody gets sucked into the technology.
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And then on the technology, they tell you that everybody hates you.
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And they tell you that, you know, for whatever reason, okay.
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Maybe it's this, maybe it's that, maybe it's this.
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But every single person that looks at the phone has a reason as to why society doesn't like them.
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Because why would I leave the phone to go talk to someone who might probably hate me according to what they say on the phone?
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So like, we have to understand that the mental abuse that's happening here is designed for you to spend more minutes on your phone, not less.
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What they do is no different than what they did to POWs.
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So like, when you look at your phone and you see, you know, oh, fuck, man, fucking racism.
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Are you really that much likely to go talk to people in real life?
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Or are you more likely to stay in the fucking place where no one's really fucking with you?
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And what do they find when they get off their phone and they go out in real life?
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It's nothing like what they describe on the phone.
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So it's a big deal that people fucking develop these skills so that you can understand the
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truth of what actual society is really like, you know?
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Or, I mean, on the other side, too, bro, like they'll post these, they'll make a post
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that make it sad or whatever it is just to get that one like or a couple of comments.
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But like psychologically, that's triggering that dopamine release, right?
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Like, and that's what's keeping you coming back to it.
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And what people don't understand is that when you victimize yourself in a post over and
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over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and you get
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likes and likes and likes and shares and shares and shares, what you've done is create a mental
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identity for yourself as a victim, which becomes impossible for you to escape from.
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Because if your whole identity for attention and dopamine that you get from social media
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is built around your own victimhood and your self-talk of how hard you have it and how
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fucking sick you are and how everybody thinks this about you and how this, this, this.
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First of all, dude, you need to understand no one really gives a fuck about you, right?
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And, and that you could take that one of two ways.
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You could take that as, oh, I'm so sad that nobody cares.
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Or you could take it as, hey, I can live my life any way I want because no one gives
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And I would choose the latter because that's the truth.
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A lot of people have an inflated sense of self-importance and, um, they don't realize
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by overly victimizing themselves instead of just being transparent, right?
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Transparency is not my sad story every single day because you're not a fucking sad story
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I got to get this, this, this, share your wins, not your losses.
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So, and people need to stop clicking, you know, on these people who perpetually victimize
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themselves over and over and over again, because you feel sorry for them, bro.
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They're, they're, they're, they're you, this is what's really happening.
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They're using your good heart to get attention from you.
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Cause what would that conversation be like if it was an in-person thing?
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It's easy to just hit the like on the phone though, man.
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But dude, like the problem is, is that I support you.
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But when you do that shit, you're, you're reinforcing their fucking identity that they
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So like when you have someone who's created a victim identity and you refuse to give it
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air, eventually they're going to give you something else.
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But if you continue to validate, you're actually hurting them because they won't ever be able
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They'll always see that as the way they get attention.
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And that's, if you really care about someone, that's probably about the worst thing that
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you could do to someone is to continue to, to, to validate their victim experience, which
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How many times you hear me fucking talk about it?
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In fact, you say it's the best thing that's ever happened to you.
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It is the fucking best thing that ever happened to me because I overcame it.
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You don't think I could fucking milk the shit out of that on social media every fucking
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I was walking through fucking quick trip and somebody gave me the evil eye and I know they
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I know it's just so hard for me out here in the real world because my scars and everybody
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Or I could look at it as, Hey, I walked by these people, they stare at me and they probably
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wonder that they probably think like not to fuck with me.
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They probably think, yeah, I don't want to fuck with that guy.
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I could choose to fucking believe whatever I want to believe about it.
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Like, I don't look, man, like shit, bad shit happens to every single person listening to
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When you build your identity around the bad shit that's happened to you in the past, how can
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for you, Andy, what are your thoughts on allowing politics or other controversial topics to
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Historically, these topics have been known to distract people from the company's missions
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You know, Hey man, I think, I think part of the reason that, um, we have such a divisive
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political environment is because only one side's ever been able to talk about their views.
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Um, the left has been able to oppress and put their views onto people for a number of years
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And if you don't do it, you're this, you're, you're, you're, you're an ist if you don't
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And this is why, this is why people aren't hiring college degrees anymore.
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You know, people want to say, Oh, why aren't they valuing college degrees?
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Because big companies are learning that after 10 years of hiring people with college degrees
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who have been indoctrinated into woke ideology, that it's not a good idea for them to come
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So it's going to cost them more money than it is going to make.
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So, you know, when you think about, uh, I think politics should be discussed.
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Um, and the reason I think politics should be discussed is because they should be discussed
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with the, with the idea of how are we going to fix the problem?
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Like, I think a lot of people could learn a lot of things by having discussions about
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Instead of just saying, you know, don't talk about politics.
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Part of the, part of what they want is they want everybody to be on edge.
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They want everybody to fucking hate each other.
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And that's why they make this shit so divisive.
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But at the end of the day, if you're able to teach your team that, Hey, we're all on the
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same team and we may not see everything exactly the same.
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However, we're going to work together for a common good, which is a better future for
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Isn't that exactly what America is supposed to be like, isn't it?
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I mean, you know, so, so if you're still buying into the left and the right, um, the black
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and the white, the LGBT, whatever, plus verse everybody, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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You're buying into their structure of division.
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They intentionally create so that they can rule over us.
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And so I think allowing for conversations to happen, um, that might be uncomfortable
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Um, I think the idea of, you know, let's censor everybody who doesn't agree with bro.
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And, and by the way, you're censoring all the people that are, that are, have guns.
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Um, so at the end of the day, those people are not going to be censored.
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Um, I, I just, you know, I, I, I, I guess for me, I don't have a problem discussing any
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Um, I also don't expect anyone to automatically agree with me on anything that I say.
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So I don't have a problem with people discussing whatever.
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Well, more than that too, Andy, like you understand, like, it's okay.
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If you do think differently than me, I can still respect you for that.
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Some of my best friends, I mean, look, dude, some of my best fucking friends, they don't
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You know, and that's what we're missing in this country.
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We're missing the ability to communicate in the way that they, the way that they've taught
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us how to not communicate is by making things like politics, taboo or divisive or also
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Like we, we can't tell the truth because it's offensive.
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Like you're, you're, you're being offended does not trump the truth.
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And, and, you know, you see people, um, I mean, dude, the NRA thing, right?
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The last, this last week, um, has been a big topic of discussion and the media made
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it seem like there was a million people out there protesting at fucking, uh, the NRA convention.
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Cause I know people that were there and they were sending me videos and the media is making
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it, you know, the media is showing these fucking crazy people screaming and this and
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And it's literally like 20, 30 people behind three barricades.
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They're trying to stir the pot of division and we aren't divided fundamentally as neighbors.
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Like when you walk down the street, um, most of your neighbors are going to come out of
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their house and you're going to talk to them and you're going to think, Hey, that was a
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You know, the media is a fucking seditious operation.
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In my opinion, um, they can treat, continue to cause division.
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None of these people have the interests of Americans in mind and we're, we're at war.
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We're at a cultural war at this point in time and it could turn into a different kind of
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war, but, um, I think it's important for people to leave the labels behind and understand
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that when you buy into a label, you're buying into someone else's ideology.
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And by buying into that ideology, it allows you to, it creates a scenario where you are,
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And it creates a scenario where, you know, you can't learn because if you know everything
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and you buy into this ideology, how are you going to listen to anything else?
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And that's why, you know, I'm very careful to say who I support and who I stand behind.
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Um, and who I think is, is someone who will go in and do the job because a lot of these
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people are, are bought into, uh, an ideology that is rigid and that's not what America is
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But America also isn't supposed to be about grooming kids that are fucking eight years
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old into, into adults, broken adults, sexual fucking lives.
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So there's, there's, there's definitely boundaries that need to not be crossed.
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And some of these boundaries are being crossed over on the progressive left, uh, to the point
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where America's responding in a, in a, what could be a hyper aggressive way if they don't
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You know, if I'm in the LGBTQ community right now, I'm fucking understanding like, Hey, these
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child people, these child predator people have infiltrated our movement and we need to
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fucking get them out because dude, 99.9% of LGBTQ people are not with that shit.
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And, and, and, um, you know, that that's perpetuated.
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All of those things are perpetuated by, uh, everybody being afraid to talk about real
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issues, which is what they do with PC culture, which in my opinion is a weapon.
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It's a, it's an actual tactic, um, to create a scenario to people silence themselves.
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And I, I believe that the discussions are important because, um, people have been silencing
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themselves and it's allowed people with malicious intent to really fuck up our shit.
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I think it, I think if you're the leader of your group and people have political differences,
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you know, maybe that's, maybe that's an opportunity for you to bring them together on some things.
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Uh, everybody's starting to realize the manipulation that's happened.
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You know, Elon went on this push for Twitter, you know, it was showed how many bots there
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And like, dude, what's been happening is they'd be created a false reality that people have
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And I think you guys should all look at like, you know, how many of the polls are 80, 20 for
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Um, how many, you know, how these woker companies are getting fucking destroyed.
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Like, like understand you're the majority, not the minority of common sense, you know?
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So, um, and that only comes out through conversation.
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And I think that if people have more conversations, they'd realize that we're also, uh, we're all
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Um, but we've got a little caramel sauce, man, if you want it.
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If there was an action comedy movie of your life, who would you cast to play you?
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Um, out of current dudes that like, uh, that I think like that I understand their humor.
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He's, he kind of, in his roles, like that's kind of how I act in real life.
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I don't generally like a lot of Hollywood people.
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I mean, that's why I picked him because he was so hot.
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It was the, it's the handful of booty meat for me.
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Like I, I, you know, maybe if Samuel L. Jackson and Chris Pratt had a baby, because they can