REAL AF with Andy Frisella - November 25, 2022


423. Q&AF： Poaching People From Former Employers, Conflict With Leadership & The Magic In Not Quitting


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In this episode of The Realists, I talk about my recent trip to the hospital and how it has changed my perspective on life and the way we live it. I also talk about how our healthcare system is broken and how we need to fix it.

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00:00:00.000 What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realists, say goodbye
00:00:20.580 to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society.
00:00:23.500 Welcome to motherfucking reality.
00:00:24.960 Guys, what's up?
00:00:26.140 We've got Q&AF today.
00:00:27.200 That is where you submit the Qs and I give you the AFs.
00:00:31.460 Sometimes, and now if you're new, I always do the, I got to do the run through.
00:00:35.700 Sometimes when you tune in, you will get CTI.
00:00:38.920 Okay.
00:00:39.140 CTI is cruise the internet.
00:00:40.480 That is more of our society culture part of the show.
00:00:45.260 We throw up headlines on the screen, usually three of them, sometimes four, and we talk
00:00:49.860 shit and we make fun of it. 0.72
00:00:51.380 And we talk about what may be true, what probably isn't.
00:00:54.020 And then we talk about how we can solve that problem as individuals collectively.
00:00:59.120 Sometimes we tune in, we'll have real talk.
00:01:00.840 Real talk is five to 20 minutes of just real talk.
00:01:03.800 It's what it sounds like.
00:01:04.600 And then sometimes we have full length and full length is what you're used to when you
00:01:07.520 watch some of these other guys who are great interviewers.
00:01:09.920 Just a fair warning.
00:01:10.840 I'm not one of those guys.
00:01:12.100 I am a terrible interviewer, but I'm funny enough that it makes up for it, at least in
00:01:17.600 my own fucking mind.
00:01:19.520 Guys.
00:01:20.020 So when it comes to Q and AF, submit your questions, make them about anything that you want to know
00:01:25.420 about.
00:01:26.060 All right.
00:01:27.260 You could submit those questions to guys.
00:01:29.940 Email those questions into ask Andy at Andy for seller.com.
00:01:33.620 And it could be about life.
00:01:34.740 It could be about business.
00:01:35.680 It could be about how, you know, what, what do I think about this and this and this, whatever
00:01:39.800 it is that you want to know, this is your chance to know.
00:01:42.580 Okay.
00:01:43.100 So, uh, we do have a fee for the show and the fee is very simple.
00:01:47.120 Uh, please tell somebody, okay.
00:01:48.860 I, I don't charge, uh, or I don't take money for ads on the show because I don't want to
00:01:53.320 answer to other people.
00:01:54.280 I want to, I want to keep my content pure.
00:01:56.620 Uh, and in exchange, I just asked that you guys help us grow the show.
00:01:59.420 So that's how we, that's how we operate here.
00:02:01.800 And, uh, so yeah, what's up, man?
00:02:04.440 What's going on, man?
00:02:05.540 Oh, it's been a weird fucking couple of days.
00:02:07.240 Yeah, it sure has.
00:02:08.360 Yeah.
00:02:08.540 Uh, I'm going to get into that on a, on a, on a different episode, but, um, I spent
00:02:13.760 the last two days in and out of the hospital and doctor's office with my, uh, I have atrial
00:02:19.240 fibrillation in my heart.
00:02:20.340 I've had it for 15 years, 14 years, and I got a really important story that I want to
00:02:25.260 tell about that regarding our healthcare system.
00:02:27.500 But I'm not going to get into that right now because honestly, I will get so fucking
00:02:31.340 angry that it will ruin the rest of the show.
00:02:33.960 So we'll save that for a different show because I'm actually for the first time in the last
00:02:37.600 two days in a not wanting to murder every single human mood.
00:02:41.340 Well, they probably actually already heard this show, heard that show, heard you talk
00:02:45.140 about it.
00:02:45.480 Maybe I'm just saying, I'm just saying for us, I'm not handling it right now.
00:02:49.820 Okay.
00:02:50.260 Uh, we got, you know, let's, let's keep it positive.
00:02:55.480 Yeah.
00:02:55.940 All right.
00:02:57.020 Uh, but, but by the way, our healthcare system is completely fucked.
00:03:00.280 Yeah.
00:03:00.500 Completely fucked.
00:03:01.220 Like, bro, I've never been so grateful in my entire life to be someone who is of financial
00:03:06.920 ability and have good people and connections in my life than I have been the last two days.
00:03:12.120 Like, it's important, man.
00:03:14.900 Dude really is.
00:03:16.100 And what it brought attention to me, and I'll get into the details at a later time, but what
00:03:20.680 it made me understand is there really is only certain ways to be free in our current society.
00:03:25.180 And you have to have financial means.
00:03:27.580 It's very, very important for you guys to pursue success because I, what I witnessed
00:03:32.480 made me really fucking sad for people that have to deal with these people and what they
00:03:38.760 do.
00:03:38.940 It made me really fucking sad.
00:03:40.840 Yeah.
00:03:41.300 Um, you know, and I, I'm not too proud to admit, you know, it's been a minute since I've
00:03:45.660 been out and, and, and had to live in the world that everybody else has to live in.
00:03:49.920 You know, for a long time, I've been doing very well in life.
00:03:53.200 Um, and that gives you options and, you know, that was the first, this is the first time
00:03:58.400 I've been treated like everybody else in that regard in a long time.
00:04:03.320 And it really fucking opened my eyes, some big problems.
00:04:05.720 And it's actually motivated me to do more, even more than, than, than what we do here
00:04:11.140 to help fix some of these problems.
00:04:12.920 Because the way that some of these people were treated, bro, man, it fucking, it, it,
00:04:19.280 it's a mixture of complete sadness and complete fucking anger. 0.73
00:04:23.380 You know, like that dude we saw, that one dude we saw.
00:04:25.900 Yeah.
00:04:26.240 Bro.
00:04:26.560 You either better start fucking loving winning or you're going to fucking hate losing.
00:04:29.440 Yeah, bro.
00:04:30.440 And, and dude, unfortunately the only way to get around is to have some fucking connections 0.56
00:04:36.440 and to have some money.
00:04:37.320 Yeah.
00:04:37.820 And, um, I'll talk about that on a different show, but I can't get that angry again.
00:04:42.220 No, that's right.
00:04:42.800 I really can't for my health physically.
00:04:44.380 You can't.
00:04:44.540 Yeah.
00:04:44.720 Yeah.
00:04:45.260 So anyway, so what do we got today, bro?
00:04:47.760 I got, I got some good ones for you.
00:04:49.100 I know you always do.
00:04:51.260 Let's, uh, by the way, tell everybody where to follow you guys need to be following DJ.
00:04:54.540 Uh, guys follow me on, uh, IG at officially D Johnson.
00:04:58.700 Yeah.
00:04:59.040 We're going to start doing a lot more content together and, um, you know, video stuff with
00:05:03.640 the new platform and more comedy stuff and actually for all the guys here.
00:05:07.320 So you're going to get to know all of them a lot better, but, uh, um, make sure you're
00:05:10.960 following DJ.
00:05:12.280 Appreciate it, man.
00:05:13.900 Let's, uh, let's get this in, uh, any question number one, Andy, I'm in the process of starting
00:05:19.120 my own business.
00:05:20.120 Okay.
00:05:20.480 I have been a leader with my current employer for a few years.
00:05:23.420 I've made a significant impact on the development of its leaders.
00:05:26.720 As I prepare to open this business, I've always envisioned starting it with new employees and
00:05:33.000 leaders.
00:05:33.380 However, there have been several leaders at my current job, uh, that have expressed a
00:05:38.740 strong desire to work at my organization.
00:05:41.920 I have never poached people and would never want to steal people from a previous employer.
00:05:46.800 But then again, I care about these people and know that my business and culture would
00:05:50.660 have a profound impact on their life and leadership journey.
00:05:54.180 What are your thoughts?
00:05:55.800 How do you know?
00:05:57.900 How do you know that's true?
00:05:59.700 How do you know you're going to be a great operator of a business and you're not just
00:06:03.620 great inside of a business?
00:06:04.860 You don't know.
00:06:05.740 And for that reason, my, my answer to that question would be another question, which is
00:06:12.520 how do you know you're doing the best for these people that you say you genuinely care
00:06:15.740 about by removing them from a stable situation where they have, they're doing well, uh, to
00:06:21.480 create something brand new.
00:06:22.820 Cause the economic time.
00:06:24.300 Yeah.
00:06:24.580 Yeah.
00:06:24.860 And I'm, I'm saying this, I'm not trying to knock you.
00:06:27.300 Okay.
00:06:28.000 I understand why you think the way you think, but we also have to be real that operating
00:06:33.380 a business and working inside of a business are completely fucking different things. 0.65
00:06:37.640 And if you truly care about those people, then how I would look at it is, okay, I need
00:06:45.740 to go out and make sure that I can take care of these people because that's the real leadership,
00:06:49.740 dude, like, like you guys think, not you guys, but most people think that owning a business
00:06:59.420 is about getting wealthy and, and, you know, like you guys see this, like, you know, the
00:07:03.320 big houses and the cars and the fucking private travel and all these things, but that's not
00:07:08.020 really what it's about.
00:07:09.240 What it's really about is your ability to care for the people inside your organization and
00:07:13.800 to lead the organization in such a way that they are able to, uh, succeed within that.
00:07:19.740 And so, you know, what about these people's families?
00:07:23.440 What about their futures?
00:07:24.680 What, you really don't know what you think, you know, is what I'm trying to point out because
00:07:28.860 you might be really good inside and you might have a big learning curve on the outside.
00:07:33.760 Now I'm not saying you can't do it because you probably can't.
00:07:36.340 Okay.
00:07:36.740 But what I am saying is there's going to be a learning curve.
00:07:39.180 And so maybe the way to think about this would be a little bit like, maybe I should go
00:07:42.740 out and prove that I've got something going.
00:07:45.560 This operational model.
00:07:46.700 Yes.
00:07:46.900 Before I get these people to give up whatever it is over here.
00:07:50.580 Yeah.
00:07:50.920 And that's, I think that's the responsible way.
00:07:53.320 If you really care, like you say you do, I think that's the responsible way to look
00:07:56.860 at that situation.
00:07:57.840 Yeah.
00:07:58.580 Um, you know, leadership in an organization, like for me, like this is no long, and it
00:08:05.660 hasn't been for a long time, but like what I do is no longer about me.
00:08:09.960 It's about them and because it's about them, that's why our organization continues to move
00:08:17.840 forward.
00:08:18.920 And the most pressure that I feel as an entrepreneur and the things that keep me up at night are
00:08:24.720 not about myself.
00:08:25.980 It's about the people in my organizations, even you guys in this room that I want to make
00:08:33.880 sure that I'm creating the best opportunity for you guys and for these guys out here, out
00:08:37.760 these windows.
00:08:40.280 And though that's the pressure, the pressure is not greed.
00:08:43.120 Like a lot of people see it as greed.
00:08:44.680 It's not fucking greed, bro.
00:08:45.960 I'm already rich.
00:08:47.000 Like I fucking have every, every fucking thing that I could ever want.
00:08:50.700 Like, I don't even want any more shit.
00:08:52.980 Like I really don't like, dude, I have an expense, a very expensive, unique car that I've
00:08:58.860 been trying to get delivered to my house for two fucking weeks. 0.96
00:09:01.260 And I haven't been able to get it delivered because I'm so busy trying to make sure that
00:09:06.720 everything's going smooth for everything else.
00:09:08.960 And, you know, that's what it ends up being about.
00:09:12.540 And if you're not really about that life, if you're not really about building something
00:09:17.140 for the people within your organization where they can also succeed, they will never be bought
00:09:22.060 in and you'll never have the opportunity to have a nice car like that delivered to your
00:09:25.420 home.
00:09:25.580 So there's a skewed way of thinking that I think is completely wrong where, you know,
00:09:33.220 and we're seeing this, right?
00:09:34.420 Like we're seeing people become more aware.
00:09:37.520 I'm talking about from employee standpoint of opportunities that they can do without having
00:09:43.000 to live within the framework of someone else's dream, right?
00:09:47.100 That means that your dream has to fit their dream within it.
00:09:51.400 Right.
00:09:51.560 And so it's very important for you to really, truly understand that if you want to grow
00:09:55.400 something that's of any real substance.
00:09:59.680 And so we have a lot of people out there that are very driven and they're not understanding
00:10:07.960 that the way to really get where you want to go is to make it about them.
00:10:11.720 Because if you make it about them, guess what they're going to do?
00:10:14.180 They're going to make it about you.
00:10:14.960 They're going to make it about you.
00:10:16.180 Yeah.
00:10:16.400 So if you really care about these people, you should go out, you should establish some real
00:10:23.600 world results, keep in contact with them, be friendly with them, but understand that if
00:10:29.220 you get them to leave their career and you end up fucking, bro, that's on you. 0.91
00:10:33.380 And that's a terrible fucking thing, bro.
00:10:35.960 You're not going to like living with that.
00:10:38.100 You know, I have been doing this long enough where there's a number of individuals that
00:10:42.480 I can recall by name that I think about all the fucking time that I know I fucking failed
00:10:48.180 as poor leader.
00:10:49.160 And bro, it bothers me.
00:10:50.540 Like, I have to live with that.
00:10:52.260 It's not, it's not a good thing.
00:10:54.240 Knowing that they could, they could have been more like their potential.
00:10:58.780 Had I handled it differently?
00:11:00.020 Yeah.
00:11:00.420 Yeah.
00:11:00.860 Had I handled it differently?
00:11:01.880 Yeah.
00:11:02.620 Now I'm not excusing the responsibility of everybody.
00:11:05.880 Yeah.
00:11:06.100 But when we talk about owning the-
00:11:07.640 Weak ass shit. 1.00
00:11:08.340 Yeah.
00:11:08.680 Like, bro, like, look, every single one of those people, they had their problems too.
00:11:12.940 But I also, I also, I'm the leader.
00:11:15.740 So I have to own that.
00:11:17.080 Yeah.
00:11:17.620 You see what I'm saying?
00:11:18.580 Yeah.
00:11:18.860 So, you know, I think that's a more responsible way to think about it because when we get excited
00:11:24.480 about a business, you know, everybody has these ideas about their business that it's
00:11:29.180 going to be the best, greatest thing ever.
00:11:30.960 And we're going to succeed and win and do all these things.
00:11:33.680 And it all sounds good.
00:11:35.080 And it's okay to think like that.
00:11:36.600 And it's okay to want to have your friends involved.
00:11:38.360 But man, you got to make sure it's real.
00:11:42.960 And that's very important because other people's way of life, other people's survival, other
00:11:48.160 people's ability to feed their families relies on that.
00:11:51.220 And I take that responsibility very seriously.
00:11:53.680 Yeah.
00:11:54.140 Because I've been doing this long enough to know what it feels like to fail that.
00:11:57.540 And you don't want that on you, bro.
00:11:59.360 It's a shitty fucking feeling.
00:12:00.760 Now, is it a reality of building something?
00:12:03.200 Are you going to avoid that completely?
00:12:05.760 Absolutely not.
00:12:06.680 You are going to experience that along the road, regardless of how careful you are.
00:12:11.440 But when we're talking about a startup, there's a very high probability statistically that you're
00:12:19.540 not going to make this exact startup work.
00:12:22.660 Most of my startups have failed.
00:12:24.840 That's what people don't realize.
00:12:26.060 Most of the business concepts that I've personally tried have failed.
00:12:31.020 Okay.
00:12:31.920 Now, had I got all my fucking friends to leave their careers and join up in there, where
00:12:35.980 the fuck would they be now?
00:12:37.200 Right.
00:12:38.440 That's all I'm saying.
00:12:39.740 So that's how I would think about it.
00:12:41.060 I think that's the thing that you talk about, man.
00:12:43.100 It's like that's the ethical entrepreneurship that I don't think, I think most people are
00:12:47.460 trying to get back to now.
00:12:48.620 You know what I'm saying?
00:12:49.100 But there has to be a really big part of ethical responsibility and decisions that are made.
00:12:55.680 Well, it's a massive key to your own personal success.
00:12:59.160 That's what people miss.
00:13:00.420 This isn't just some touchy-feely shit that I'm out here spewing because it sounds good.
00:13:05.520 It's actually strategically important to your own personal success that you operate that
00:13:12.080 way.
00:13:12.360 Yeah.
00:13:13.120 Yeah.
00:13:14.220 That's real, man.
00:13:14.900 What I'm saying is you can't win without that.
00:13:16.800 You can win a little bit, but you can't win big.
00:13:21.440 That's real.
00:13:22.740 Moving along.
00:13:23.760 Andy, question number two.
00:13:25.440 Andy, I'm a Marine Corps veteran just starting out on my career in the fire service.
00:13:30.920 I'm in pretty good physical shape.
00:13:32.960 My mindset has been overall pretty good.
00:13:35.140 I was told by one of my instructors, who's fat and out of shape, that my attitude has come
00:13:40.920 off as, quote, an arrogant asshole who thinks he's better than everyone else. 0.81
00:13:45.840 This is his leader?
00:13:46.520 This is his leader who's fat and out of shape.
00:13:48.600 Okay.
00:13:49.320 And I should, quote, check my ego at the door.
00:13:52.860 From my perspective, I've been the most uplifting and team-driven person around and constantly
00:13:58.680 pushing everyone around me to be better.
00:14:00.920 Am I misunderstood or is there a fine line between trying to be a good leader and being
00:14:05.700 a cocky, arrogant asshole?
00:14:07.320 I think that there could be a couple things going on there.
00:14:13.480 One, if you're in good shape and he's not, there's a human level of fucking insecurity
00:14:18.840 there.
00:14:19.560 The leadership structure that you're in doesn't fucking matter.
00:14:22.760 Because as a man, he's recognizing that you are a more equipped male species than he is.
00:14:30.320 Right.
00:14:30.420 There's going to be some natural jealousy there just because of the way that people are wired.
00:14:34.680 Yeah.
00:14:34.920 So as someone who's trying to become a good leader, you, you need to be aware of that.
00:14:41.980 And it sounds like maybe you're not aware of that.
00:14:45.020 And maybe what could fix this situation would be a conversation with that leadership saying,
00:14:51.320 hey, look, bro, I'm not trying to step on your toes.
00:14:53.580 I'm actually trying to do this and this and this and maybe get closer to that person as
00:14:58.020 opposed to trying to fight that person, especially if they're actually in a leadership position
00:15:03.220 where they have control over where you go and how you move.
00:15:06.620 Right.
00:15:07.140 You're very, you, it's very rare that in, and you could say this is right or wrong, but
00:15:12.600 I'm just telling you the way it fucking is.
00:15:14.140 It's very rare that someone in a leadership structure will leapfrog somebody, right?
00:15:20.520 Like this man has some fucking power over your position development.
00:15:26.120 And I'm not saying go kiss his ass.
00:15:27.740 I'm not saying any of that shit like you guys interpret.
00:15:30.380 But what I'm saying is maybe understand where he's coming from on that aspect and maybe,
00:15:34.940 maybe have a conversation like, hey, bro.
00:15:36.840 And I'm not saying like, hey, look, I know you're fat and I'm ripped.
00:15:39.520 And like, you know, that's not what I'm saying.
00:15:40.940 What I'm saying is maybe make your intentions, communicate them a little better to your leadership
00:15:45.520 and say, hey, look, dude, I'm trying to do this and this and this and this and this.
00:15:48.760 And we're definitely on the same page with that.
00:15:51.260 Right.
00:15:51.560 And I'm trying to help.
00:15:52.520 And here's the resistance I'm feeling from you.
00:15:55.260 You know, can we squash this and move forward?
00:15:57.780 Because I want to be an asset to you.
00:15:59.560 Right.
00:15:59.960 And make those intentions known.
00:16:01.620 That, that's the first thing that could really be affecting it.
00:16:04.640 I would say that's probably it.
00:16:07.360 Yeah.
00:16:07.620 You can't control his insecurities.
00:16:09.240 No, you can't.
00:16:10.020 But what you can do is you can help that leader actually be better by understanding,
00:16:16.820 by being smart and understanding that there are some insecurities there and you don't want
00:16:24.080 to like poke at them.
00:16:25.280 Yeah.
00:16:25.760 You want to, you want to be aware of them and then tactfully navigate those things.
00:16:29.760 And maybe it's something like you invite the dude to train with you.
00:16:32.640 Right.
00:16:32.880 Maybe it's something like you actually help pick them up and be better.
00:16:35.960 And like, you know, maybe this could be your best fucking friend that you've ever fucking 0.88
00:16:39.720 met because of that.
00:16:40.680 Yeah.
00:16:41.060 So how many times has that happened?
00:16:42.500 A lot, a lot.
00:16:44.080 Actually, most of my best friends, I fucking hated when I met them.
00:16:47.540 Real talk.
00:16:48.340 Like most of my best friends, I fucking hated when I first met them.
00:16:52.720 Real shit.
00:16:54.760 You know why I hate them?
00:16:55.600 You're the same.
00:16:56.480 That's right.
00:16:56.940 Yeah.
00:16:58.320 I'm you.
00:16:59.080 You're me.
00:17:00.300 You're not as good of a me as I am a me.
00:17:02.440 Right.
00:17:02.760 Right.
00:17:03.060 Like, it's like, fuck you, man.
00:17:04.540 What's your name?
00:17:05.400 Yeah.
00:17:05.960 So like, we, we have to, we have to like, be aware of that.
00:17:09.560 Yeah.
00:17:10.060 You know, like your competitors usually end up being the people that you can relate with
00:17:14.740 the most.
00:17:15.700 And some of the most rewarding relationships I have in my life started out with being
00:17:20.460 competitive, including my own fucking business partner, bro. 0.88
00:17:22.820 Like we play high school football together.
00:17:24.480 We played the same positions on both sides of the ball.
00:17:26.280 And guess what?
00:17:27.440 He was fucking better than me.
00:17:28.800 And I fucking hated it.
00:17:29.980 Yeah.
00:17:30.680 Okay.
00:17:31.380 Like, bro, you know me as good as anybody.
00:17:33.600 Yeah.
00:17:33.800 How competitive am I?
00:17:34.660 You're pretty fucking competitive.
00:17:35.400 Yeah.
00:17:35.740 And Chris was a better fucking athlete than me.
00:17:37.820 Yeah.
00:17:38.220 And like, that was hard for me to swallow.
00:17:40.320 Right.
00:17:41.200 But here we are.
00:17:43.240 Yeah.
00:17:43.440 Right.
00:17:43.620 We've done some cool shit together because we were able to put that aside.
00:17:46.640 Yeah.
00:17:46.880 And dude, one of the things that makes Chris and I's relationship and Sal's and I's, bro,
00:17:51.480 Sal and I are fucking highly competitive.
00:17:53.860 Like, what makes our relationships actually work is the respect and understanding of each
00:17:58.940 other's insecurities and to not poke on them, but actually pull them along with you.
00:18:03.240 Yeah.
00:18:03.860 Well, I mean, being honest too about the strengths and weaknesses.
00:18:06.000 Yeah.
00:18:06.280 You have to be real, dude.
00:18:07.360 Yeah.
00:18:07.500 Like, it does no good to pretend that you are better at something than you actually are.
00:18:12.080 You're right.
00:18:12.460 Right.
00:18:12.500 You have to have a realistic view of yourself if you want to improve.
00:18:15.500 Yeah.
00:18:15.740 Like, I know the things that Sal is much better than me at.
00:18:19.000 And I know that he knows the things that I'm better at.
00:18:21.760 Right.
00:18:22.100 Same with Chris.
00:18:23.000 There's an understanding.
00:18:23.840 Yes.
00:18:24.020 There's things that Chris is much better than me at, and there's things that I'm better
00:18:27.180 than him at.
00:18:27.800 And we value that in each other instead of compete over it.
00:18:30.500 Yeah.
00:18:31.420 That's true, bro.
00:18:32.180 Yeah.
00:18:32.340 Because you don't want to do the shit that he's good at.
00:18:34.440 Yeah.
00:18:34.940 I don't.
00:18:35.420 Yeah.
00:18:35.760 Well, the funny thing is, is when it comes to Chris, we are naturally good at the opposite
00:18:41.780 things.
00:18:42.240 Yeah.
00:18:42.440 So, that's what makes it work so good.
00:18:44.760 When it comes to Sal, we're actually both really good at the same fucking things.
00:18:48.700 And so, there's a competitive nature there.
00:18:50.540 Right.
00:18:50.860 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:51.600 Yeah.
00:18:51.780 And that's why every two years or three years, we get in a fucking literal fist fight.
00:18:56.080 There's a rut season.
00:18:56.800 Yeah.
00:18:57.180 Fucking right, bro.
00:18:58.620 You know?
00:18:59.240 But you know what?
00:19:00.280 Out of all those battles comes mutual love and respect.
00:19:03.100 It's real shit.
00:19:03.680 Yeah, for sure.
00:19:04.260 You know what I'm saying?
00:19:04.920 Like, bro, I'd kill motherfuckers for either one of them dudes.
00:19:07.220 Yeah.
00:19:07.320 Like, no question.
00:19:08.040 That's right.
00:19:08.160 Like, it wouldn't even be a fucking.
00:19:09.380 Like, bro, if they called me, like, just in that movie, the town where that dude's like,
00:19:12.540 hey, you can't ask any questions.
00:19:14.900 We're going to hurt some people.
00:19:16.380 And he says, what car are you taking?
00:19:18.220 That's what it is.
00:19:19.080 That's it.
00:19:19.480 Yeah.
00:19:19.720 Yeah.
00:19:19.920 And that's what you want.
00:19:21.320 So maybe this is an opportunity for you to develop that with your current leadership.
00:19:26.360 Yeah.
00:19:27.280 That's fucking awesome.
00:19:28.400 Yeah.
00:19:30.340 Andy, our third and final question, question number three.
00:19:33.380 I started an apparel company, and I've had it for about four years now.
00:19:39.020 Shit's hard.
00:19:39.980 Yeah.
00:19:40.520 Fucking shit's hard.
00:19:41.540 I can tell my fire and passion to learn more and grow in this area is starting to diminish.
00:19:47.120 Uh, I'm not sure if it's a really long, rough patch right now, um, that I need to just work through.
00:19:55.340 But I've heard you always say the magic is in not quitting.
00:19:58.800 But at what point, if there is one, do you pivot and turn your attention to starting over or building another business?
00:20:06.080 If your heart isn't in it, uh, and especially isn't in what you're, what you're doing anymore.
00:20:10.800 Okay.
00:20:11.800 So there is not a single thing that any of you could do that you will do from here today until the end of your life that you're going to feel good about all the time.
00:20:23.720 It's not going, it's not, it's not a realistic expectation.
00:20:26.620 And a lot of the real, the unrealistic expectation around this comes from these fuckers online that I talk shit about all the time, which are these overly fucking touchy feely, you know, spiritual fucking sort of victim culture type personalities.
00:20:41.240 Because the moment you're out of that, you start feeling like a piece of shit for not feeling that way.
00:20:45.240 Yeah, bro.
00:20:45.860 And they make it feel like you're completely off base for feeling a little bit, uh, not in it or even a lot not in it.
00:20:53.620 Exactly.
00:20:54.040 For extended periods of time.
00:20:55.800 Okay.
00:20:56.580 So I want to be very honest with you guys.
00:20:59.460 If you think that I love being in doing what I do every fucking day, you're fucking insane.
00:21:07.900 Like there are days that I've literally, and bro, you know this, that I want to fucking murder people.
00:21:13.620 Yeah.
00:21:13.840 Okay.
00:21:14.360 And by the way, there's stints of time where I'm angry at like everybody in our fucking company has nothing to do with them. 0.79
00:21:22.480 Right.
00:21:22.820 It has to do with me.
00:21:23.860 Okay.
00:21:24.340 And so you have to understand that as a human, we are going to go through ebbs and flows of feeling great and loving what we do.
00:21:32.000 And then feeling like, fuck, dude, I'm wasting my fucking life.
00:21:34.880 This is bullshit.
00:21:35.980 Bro.
00:21:37.380 That's normal.
00:21:38.720 That's how it goes.
00:21:39.820 And this idealistic idea that everything is sunshine and rainbows all the fucking time does way more harm than good because what it does is it convinces people like this person who's asking this question to stop the minute.
00:21:54.320 They don't feel fucking great about something.
00:21:56.040 And if you do that and the natural tendency for human beings is to go with ebbs and flows and you quit whatever it is you're fucking doing.
00:22:04.420 Every time it starts to get that way, how can you ever become what it is you're trying to become?
00:22:09.640 Because whatever it is that you do, whether it's, you know, like, bro, right now, like you, like right now, like I fucking love what I do because I just got off fucking this massive injury.
00:22:21.160 I'm able to train hard.
00:22:22.460 I'm in the shit.
00:22:23.260 I'm using our products.
00:22:25.060 I'm getting excited about all these new things that we have going on.
00:22:28.180 So I fucking love it.
00:22:29.200 Yeah.
00:22:29.660 But bro, the last year I fucking hated it.
00:22:33.060 Okay.
00:22:33.520 And that's normal.
00:22:34.660 What had it, what would have happened if I'd come in here the last year, the last 12 months where I've been struggling mentally because I couldn't physically be involved in what the fuck we actually do.
00:22:44.200 Had I just quit and say, you know what?
00:22:46.240 I'm fucking done.
00:22:46.880 I'm going to go.
00:22:47.560 You know what I'm going to do?
00:22:48.780 I'm going to go.
00:22:49.440 I'm going to go.
00:22:49.880 Um,
00:22:50.280 I'm going to go sell fucking butterfly memorabilia.
00:22:54.420 Like, because I'm into that right now.
00:22:56.580 Okay.
00:22:56.980 Like where the fuck, what would happen?
00:22:58.940 I'd fucking get my ass beat.
00:23:00.940 Okay.
00:23:01.340 So we can't jump from thing to thing, the thing, the thing, every fucking time we're not feeling our heart in it. 0.63
00:23:08.680 Okay.
00:23:09.080 You have to take a step back and be aware of yourself and aware of the reality that as a human being, it's just like a marriage or it's just like a friendship or it's just like anything.
00:23:19.880 Like, bro, there's times where you are not going to look at your best friend and be like, you know, super fucking, you're going to be like, man, I'm fucking kind of tired of that.
00:23:28.400 Right.
00:23:28.800 Right.
00:23:29.300 Right.
00:23:29.660 And then you don't talk for a couple of weeks and then guess what?
00:23:32.560 It goes right back to the way it was and things are good.
00:23:34.740 And like, dude, these are things that we have to understand as human beings are reality and operating outside of reality in the idealistic mindset, which is so popular on the fucking internet.
00:23:45.180 You know, all you motherfuckers get sucked into this shit and you don't understand that you're starting to believe that the world is a way that it actually isn't.
00:23:53.760 And then you feel like you're screwing up and it actually does screw you up because you're making decisions that aren't in line with reality.
00:24:00.660 And so my advice to you would be for you to realize that what you're going through is absolutely normal and you have years of experience in this company, which by the way, I'm also in that kind of industry and it's very difficult.
00:24:17.960 And there are times where it really sucks.
00:24:19.960 It's just part of the deal.
00:24:23.500 And so we have to be aware of that as entrepreneurs and people who are pursuing success, that if we quit every single time that we don't feel like it or that we get burnt out or that we lose our heart, you know, or a heart sign in it, bro, you can't get anywhere just by pure fucking default.
00:24:39.720 Like, it's just, if you, if you run a fucking marathon, okay.
00:24:44.980 And every time you get tired at six miles in or 10 miles in or 11 miles in or 20 miles in, how can you ever finish the fucking race?
00:24:53.780 Right.
00:24:55.400 You can't.
00:24:56.520 And that's how you should think about it.
00:24:58.400 There's no motherfucker that ever finished a fucking marathon that finished the marathon thinking, man, that was fucking easy.
00:25:04.980 Right.
00:25:05.540 Man, that was great the whole time.
00:25:07.440 That was awesome.
00:25:08.280 There's no motherfucker that completely transformed their entire body.
00:25:11.820 75 hard, live hard.
00:25:13.320 Episode 208.
00:25:14.360 It's fucking free.
00:25:15.200 This will, that will teach you what I'm talking about.
00:25:17.900 It will, it will literally teach you and fucking less in 75 days and over the course of a year to understand the concept I'm talking about is that you have to push through even when you're not in it mentally or fucking heart wise.
00:25:33.320 Physically sometimes.
00:25:34.380 Yeah, bro.
00:25:35.040 Yeah.
00:25:35.880 Yeah.
00:25:36.240 Even sometimes it's like you can't, but you got to make yourself do it.
00:25:39.840 And that's where the juice is.
00:25:41.260 That's where the win is.
00:25:42.160 That's the magic that you're looking for.
00:25:43.720 It's in the perseverance.
00:25:44.940 It's in the fortitude.
00:25:46.280 It's in the grit.
00:25:47.360 It's in the discipline that you're creating by pushing through these difficult times.
00:25:50.860 And every time you push through that in your business, you're becoming a more effective, more formidable, more dangerous entrepreneur.
00:26:00.180 And a more well-rounded human being, to be completely honest.
00:26:04.400 So you have to do that.
00:26:06.140 If you don't do it, you're going to suck in life.
00:26:07.920 So my advice to you would be, say, have a real conversation with yourself.
00:26:13.960 Am I, is my heart really not in it?
00:26:16.620 Or am I just going through a phase?
00:26:18.260 Yeah.
00:26:18.740 And I could tell you from my experience that there's a 99.999% chance that you're going through a fucking phase.
00:26:27.580 And don't fucking quit.
00:26:29.360 Would you say that it would be safe to do, like, maybe give yourself, like, an ultimatum?
00:26:33.920 Like, okay, listen, I'm going to put the next 100 days.
00:26:36.280 I'm going to go fucking balls in.
00:26:37.660 At the end of that 100 days, I'm still not there?
00:26:39.700 All right, maybe.
00:26:40.360 Well, that's a great way to create momentum.
00:26:42.540 You could say, hey, I'm going to give the next 100 days everything I fucking got and then see how I feel.
00:26:46.320 Yeah.
00:26:46.960 Re-evaluate.
00:26:47.380 Yeah.
00:26:47.680 Great idea.
00:26:48.840 Yeah.
00:26:49.260 But you got to make sure that you actually give 100% of those 100 days.
00:26:52.080 Because what will end up happening is you'll create a new life and a new passion and a new momentum for your business.
00:26:58.160 Think of it like this.
00:26:59.940 Think of the last four years.
00:27:01.500 Think of all the shit you've gone through to get where the fuck you are.
00:27:05.300 Think of all the struggle, all the pain, all the conversations, all the disappointments, all the wins, all the cool stuff.
00:27:12.740 And have a real honest conversation about evaluating that and then asking yourself, do you want to go through that all over again with something else?
00:27:20.060 Because I bet you don't.
00:27:23.420 Because those first four years are the fucking hardest, bro.
00:27:26.420 And if you quit now, you're going to be quitting your whole entire life.
00:27:33.820 So that's how I think about it.
00:27:37.280 It's fucking real, man.
00:27:38.540 I fucking love it.
00:27:40.140 Well, guys, Andy, that is three.
00:27:41.840 Yeah.
00:27:42.340 Nice short episode.
00:27:43.520 Yeah.
00:27:44.760 Sometimes they get the job done.
00:27:46.940 That's right.
00:27:47.520 Just as much as a 45-minute session.
00:27:50.920 Yeah.
00:27:51.440 Sometimes a quickie's a good thing, huh?
00:27:52.940 That's what I'm saying.
00:27:54.980 All right, guys.
00:27:55.800 That's the show.
00:27:56.540 I appreciate you.
00:27:57.460 Please share the show.
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