REAL AF with Andy Frisella - February 27, 2023


478. Prerequisites For Success Ft. Tim Grover


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 33 minutes

Words per Minute

195.1572

Word Count

18,231

Sentence Count

1,556

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

34


Summary

In this episode of The Realists, we have a full length episode with a special guest, Tim Grover. Tim is a man of many talents, but he's not your average guest. He's a non-binary guest, and that's a good thing.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realists, say goodbye
00:00:20.700 to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking
00:00:24.900 reality.
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00:02:52.140 So now on to the full length episode, right?
00:02:54.140 Full length.
00:02:54.980 Got a couple of guests on the show.
00:02:56.640 The girthy one.
00:02:57.320 Yeah, it is a girthy show.
00:02:58.720 Yeah.
00:02:59.000 It's long too.
00:02:59.740 Yeah, it is.
00:03:00.380 Yeah.
00:03:01.060 We have a couple of guests and one of them happens to be my brother.
00:03:05.880 Two times in a week.
00:03:06.780 Yeah.
00:03:07.800 No longer.
00:03:08.420 About right.
00:03:08.980 No, you're a guest.
00:03:10.140 You're just not a special guest.
00:03:11.780 Got it.
00:03:11.960 You were a special guest last show.
00:03:13.280 Got it.
00:03:13.860 Now you're a guest.
00:03:14.800 So is that an upgrade or a downgrade?
00:03:16.220 I'm not sure.
00:03:17.200 Still figuring that out?
00:03:18.160 Yeah.
00:03:18.460 He's a non-binary guest.
00:03:19.860 Yes.
00:03:20.360 I identify as a special guest.
00:03:21.960 Oh, there you go.
00:03:22.500 What do you think about that?
00:03:23.460 Well, then we better all say special guest.
00:03:25.240 Nobody gets their fucking feelings hurt.
00:03:26.780 So I'm here with my special guest.
00:03:29.360 My brother.
00:03:30.720 Thank you.
00:03:31.420 You feel better?
00:03:32.180 I'm super special.
00:03:32.920 And then, no, our super special guest is the man sitting to your left, Mr. Tim Grover.
00:03:38.940 What's happening, dude?
00:03:40.040 Everything is excellent.
00:03:41.360 Anytime I get a chance to come see both of you, come to this wonderful facility, sit in
00:03:46.100 this amazing studio and listen, educate myself, get to voice my opinions.
00:03:52.780 It's a wonderful day.
00:03:54.420 You do the educating around here, though, bro.
00:03:57.620 Listen, if we're-
00:03:58.960 You know what you're educating me on right now?
00:04:00.740 What am I educating?
00:04:01.320 It's how it looks fucking good.
00:04:03.320 Like, bro, you got the suit.
00:04:04.640 You got the tan.
00:04:05.500 You got the salt and pepper going on.
00:04:07.240 Hey.
00:04:07.940 Oh, you're looking good.
00:04:08.640 Yeah.
00:04:09.080 I appreciate it.
00:04:10.900 Listen, I'm the season one in the room.
00:04:14.220 I'm the eldest statesman in here.
00:04:16.420 So I got to represent a little differently.
00:04:18.700 I got to represent a little different.
00:04:19.780 Thank you.
00:04:20.140 You're doing it.
00:04:20.400 Thank you.
00:04:20.660 Hey, we should do that more.
00:04:21.820 We talked about this.
00:04:22.820 Right.
00:04:23.220 Wearing fucking suits, like getting back into that era, man.
00:04:27.300 Like, you think back, what, it was 1940s?
00:04:28.540 You're trying to say Tim's old?
00:04:29.620 You're going to offend our special guest?
00:04:31.260 Well, I mean-
00:04:31.900 Special, special guest.
00:04:32.820 Sorry.
00:04:33.200 Super special guest?
00:04:34.160 That's right.
00:04:34.520 I'm just saying.
00:04:35.700 I find that offensive.
00:04:36.360 I don't mind the suit-wearing thing on a daily basis.
00:04:39.080 No, I think it needs to make a comeback.
00:04:40.440 Yeah.
00:04:40.800 I mean, dude, look at the culture, dude.
00:04:43.500 Yeah.
00:04:43.980 Like, motherfuckers wearing sweatpants, like a onesie, like a matching sweatpants.
00:04:48.220 We don't make any matching shit, do we?
00:04:50.600 Okay.
00:04:51.580 Don't wear our matching shit either.
00:04:53.300 All right?
00:04:54.060 I'm just being real.
00:04:55.420 Like, bro, some of y'all dress like fucking toddlers.
00:04:57.860 You're wearing matching sweatpants, the same color shirt, and a fucking fanny pack like
00:05:01.720 a fucking little kid, dude.
00:05:04.100 Like, remember dad used to dress us like that?
00:05:06.260 Yeah.
00:05:07.140 My dad used to take us to fucking Sam.
00:05:08.760 This is real shit, dude.
00:05:09.840 My dad treated us like twins, even though we weren't twins.
00:05:14.180 So we wore the same shit.
00:05:16.020 So, like, my dad would buy us the same outfits, and these were not like-
00:05:19.940 We didn't go to Gap, right?
00:05:21.380 Right, right.
00:05:21.940 Like, that was-
00:05:22.480 You don't understand, but Gap was the shit back then.
00:05:25.020 We didn't go to Gap.
00:05:26.080 You didn't even know what Gap is?
00:05:26.880 I know what Gap is.
00:05:27.540 Oh, okay.
00:05:28.620 You got your clothes from A&P.
00:05:30.120 No, what's that?
00:05:30.720 That was not-
00:05:31.520 Huh?
00:05:31.900 What's A&P?
00:05:33.580 Yeah, see?
00:05:34.120 You guys are too even younger than you.
00:05:35.440 Yeah.
00:05:36.260 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:05:38.980 Gotcha.
00:05:39.880 Bro, we were getting shit-
00:05:40.860 A&P was a grocery store.
00:05:42.120 Bro, that's so clothing.
00:05:43.280 That's where we were.
00:05:44.160 We got our clothes from Sam's.
00:05:46.280 So we would go through, and there'd be, like, the pile of sweatpants, and there'd be, like,
00:05:50.180 jersey sweatpants, all red.
00:05:52.120 Okay?
00:05:52.520 And he'd buy fucking three pairs of red pants for Sal, three pairs for me, and three red
00:05:56.840 tops for each of us.
00:05:57.740 And, bro, we were running around like fucking Ooppa Loopas, dude, all the time, man.
00:06:01.780 Like, that's how the fuck we ran around.
00:06:02.980 Listen, that's true.
00:06:03.600 That's not a false story.
00:06:04.500 It's a very true story.
00:06:06.060 I hated it.
00:06:06.820 I'm like, dad, we're not fucking twins.
00:06:08.380 And he's like, I don't care.
00:06:09.360 Yeah.
00:06:09.740 I'm like, all right.
00:06:10.760 All right.
00:06:11.220 Yeah, like, what am I going to do?
00:06:13.380 Anyway, I think it was a style.
00:06:15.000 Dude, listen.
00:06:15.900 It's a, it's a, men dressing like men is important.
00:06:20.080 Yeah.
00:06:20.600 It's important.
00:06:21.500 Yeah.
00:06:21.700 And now you got motherfuckers running around wearing balloons on their feet.
00:06:25.540 Have you seen the, have you seen, have you guys seen that?
00:06:27.880 You talking about that Sam Smith, dude?
00:06:29.660 No.
00:06:31.340 There's some new boots that are apparently pretty famous.
00:06:33.740 Oh, those red ones?
00:06:34.460 Yeah.
00:06:34.800 Yeah.
00:06:34.980 I saw those.
00:06:36.640 Like, bro, shit's weird, man.
00:06:38.800 DJ, what size did you get?
00:06:39.860 Yeah, no shit.
00:06:40.480 I will tell a story earlier.
00:06:45.420 I mean, Dennis Rodman did wear dresses and made it popular before it was popular in 2023.
00:06:50.860 Yeah.
00:06:51.520 You know?
00:06:52.100 No, the shoe.
00:06:52.800 And Boas.
00:06:53.740 Yeah.
00:06:54.100 Yeah.
00:06:54.980 And Pamela Anderson.
00:06:55.660 He's an interesting dude, huh?
00:06:57.240 Very interesting.
00:06:58.040 Yeah.
00:06:58.200 Very interesting individual.
00:06:59.700 Yeah.
00:06:59.880 Very, very, very.
00:07:01.560 Well, going, you know, on the dress thing, for me, it's, it's a statement.
00:07:06.120 It's a statement.
00:07:07.180 All right.
00:07:07.380 You know, every individual in here, in this room, they work hard.
00:07:11.480 They take care of their, they take care of their bodies.
00:07:13.400 They sacrifice, they sacrifice in overindulging in things.
00:07:18.480 And I like to be able to go in my closet and not have a section that says, yeah, not too
00:07:25.560 comfortable, maybe too tight, too big.
00:07:28.560 I can go in there and wear anything I want to wear and feel good about it and feel comfortable
00:07:33.760 or feel comfortable about it.
00:07:35.260 That comes from the high standards you have physically, too, though.
00:07:37.960 Yeah.
00:07:38.300 And you know, listen, everything that goes on in here.
00:07:41.540 That's a big deal.
00:07:42.760 That's a big deal.
00:07:43.800 That, what you just said.
00:07:44.880 Like, being able to go in your closet.
00:07:46.600 Like, you just reminded me of something.
00:07:48.460 Like, when I was, when I was fucking fat and like, I would have to wear like the same
00:07:53.200 clothes all the time.
00:07:54.620 Yeah.
00:07:54.900 And I would have to like, think about it.
00:07:56.280 I have to stay.
00:07:56.820 I remember, because it's been seven years since I really started getting, getting my shit together.
00:08:01.380 And I used to stand in front of the mirror and like, like, try to look as like, like I was
00:08:09.140 trying to suck in, like, like, and I'd be like, oh, you know, this makes me look less
00:08:13.080 fat or this, this makes me look better than that.
00:08:15.200 And I had to have this like internal debate on what's going to look okay.
00:08:19.900 What feel, what's comfortable.
00:08:21.420 Now it's, now it's like, dude, I just go in and grab some stuff.
00:08:24.020 Just go in there and grab some.
00:08:25.320 And that's a win.
00:08:25.960 That's a huge win.
00:08:27.120 That's a daily win.
00:08:28.380 If you think about it, if you want to start your day off, no, I'm assuming everyone gets
00:08:33.200 dressed in the morning.
00:08:34.120 I don't know anymore these days, but when you do put on clothes to literally to go in
00:08:37.860 and say, Hey, not, not that can only be grab anything out of the closet, wear what you
00:08:43.760 want, look good at it and feels comfortable.
00:08:46.520 You know, I fly all the time and you see people when that, when they fly and I'm like, what
00:08:50.300 are they wearing?
00:08:51.000 And everyone says, you know, why do you, why do you dress up?
00:08:53.980 Because are you comfortable?
00:08:55.240 I said, I don't put on uncomfortable clothes.
00:08:57.400 I said, I don't get it.
00:09:00.120 What are you doing?
00:09:00.600 What are you saying?
00:09:01.260 You buy uncomfortable stuff?
00:09:03.040 No, you're buying, you want to travel the way you want to travel because to you, that's
00:09:07.800 what everybody says to everybody's doing and to look that way.
00:09:12.720 I work hard on myself physically and mentally.
00:09:15.740 All right.
00:09:16.800 There's a lot of things that I do.
00:09:19.700 There's a lot of things that I don't do.
00:09:22.260 And this is who I am.
00:09:24.300 Not because this is the way you want me to be.
00:09:26.920 This is, this is who, this is who, this is who I am.
00:09:30.780 And when I come in here, I feel like I'm representing not only first form, not only real AF and for
00:09:42.520 me to show up in differently than I would to any other place.
00:09:47.940 And it would be disrespectful to the individuals in this room.
00:09:51.560 That means I don't care as much.
00:09:54.480 Damn, dude.
00:09:54.880 I'm going to go put on a suit.
00:09:55.600 I know.
00:09:55.960 I feel bad.
00:09:56.540 You know, I feel, I feel guilty here because you, safe to say you've taught me a lot of
00:10:00.440 things, right?
00:10:01.100 I feel comfortable saying that.
00:10:02.880 Can I teach you something?
00:10:03.920 Yeah.
00:10:04.520 You said it's safe to say that everybody gets dressed in the morning.
00:10:06.980 And I tell you, you're doing it incorrectly, but you should be trying to get undressed
00:10:10.300 in the morning and start your day off right.
00:10:11.960 You know what I'm saying?
00:10:13.980 That's how I try to start.
00:10:15.300 That's a superpower.
00:10:16.340 That's assuming you're wearing anything at all when you go to sleep.
00:10:18.420 But sleeping naked is kind of weird, right?
00:10:20.280 No, it's free.
00:10:21.480 No, you sleep naked?
00:10:22.580 Fuck yeah, I sleep naked.
00:10:23.400 Really?
00:10:23.840 Hell yeah, I sleep naked.
00:10:25.140 Tim, you sleep naked?
00:10:26.680 You're just covering your ass.
00:10:28.040 No, no, no, no.
00:10:29.460 No, I do.
00:10:30.160 I sleep on a lot of boxers.
00:10:30.720 That's why I get dressed in the, that's why I get dressed, that's why I say I get dressed
00:10:33.540 in the morning.
00:10:34.720 All right?
00:10:34.900 Let me tell you guys.
00:10:36.120 Also, also, also, also, hold on.
00:10:40.140 Also, let me tell you.
00:10:41.760 If you ain't dressed, you ain't got to get undressed, you know what I'm saying?
00:10:44.380 What's the median age, what's the median age in this room?
00:10:47.300 What do you guys?
00:10:47.860 Probably.
00:10:48.820 Well, I mean, right now it's probably like fucking 70.
00:10:51.740 Oh, really?
00:10:52.880 I would, I would say 32.
00:10:54.520 Yeah, 30, I think it's fair.
00:10:55.560 All right, 35 years.
00:10:56.460 All right.
00:10:56.880 I'm in the upper echelon in the 50s.
00:11:00.880 All right?
00:11:02.280 Trust me, when you get to that age, the time when you sleep and how often you have to get
00:11:07.780 up to use the bathroom, if anything you'll remember from this podcast, 20 years from
00:11:16.240 now, you're going to be like, fucking Grover was right.
00:11:18.800 I know what happened.
00:11:19.220 My partner slept naked.
00:11:21.120 No, dude.
00:11:21.760 I think, I think, you know, to your point, dude, a lot of people.
00:11:26.880 They don't know, like, like, before I really got serious about, you know, getting, getting
00:11:34.020 my physical state together.
00:11:35.680 And now I hover in the same, you know, 12 pound range, which really doesn't change my
00:11:39.860 clothes.
00:11:40.160 Like my suits pretty much fit the same, whether I'm at the top of that or at the bottom of
00:11:43.960 that.
00:11:44.660 And so it's, but before that, bro, I didn't realize that like, all your clothes are comfortable
00:11:51.580 when you're actually in shape.
00:11:53.260 You know, that's something most people have never been, so they don't realize that.
00:11:56.880 You know what I'm saying?
00:11:57.380 They don't, they don't realize what a luxury it is to be able to walk in and put a suit
00:12:02.840 on and then fly on an airplane and still be comfortable.
00:12:05.360 Like I'm just wearing regular shit.
00:12:07.120 Right.
00:12:07.500 Because when I was fat, it was like, oh shit, dude, when did I have this suit?
00:12:12.060 When did I get this suit?
00:12:13.420 Right.
00:12:13.640 Like, oh, I got it 30 pounds ago and I'd have to wear, I'd have to wear the, dude, I went
00:12:17.920 to many weddings and many formal events with like a piece of elastic strung between the,
00:12:24.040 the, the clip that clips your suit pants and, and the, and the actual clip part.
00:12:29.600 You know what I'm saying?
00:12:30.220 And so I would put a piece of elastic in there and you, you would never really be able to
00:12:33.760 see it because the belt would cover it.
00:12:35.400 You know what I'm saying?
00:12:36.220 Like people don't think about shit like that.
00:12:37.640 But you know what?
00:12:38.660 That just shows when individuals, Andrew, by sharing that, that just shows you're just
00:12:45.680 like everybody else.
00:12:46.620 You have the same issues that everybody else had, everybody else had you, but you were able
00:12:51.320 to overcome it.
00:12:52.560 Those were, those were wins.
00:12:54.720 Those were wins for, those were wins for you.
00:12:57.280 And consistently it's, it's a, it's a battle.
00:13:00.660 It's, it is, it is a battle just because listen, the fat gene is in all of us.
00:13:08.620 It's called food.
00:13:09.960 It tastes good.
00:13:10.580 Yeah.
00:13:11.080 And you know what else feels good?
00:13:12.100 Not doing shit.
00:13:13.040 Yeah, exactly.
00:13:14.420 Yeah.
00:13:14.940 Which, which is, which is easy, which is easy to, which is easy to do.
00:13:19.340 And we've all, everybody in this room at some point chose easy over winning.
00:13:27.600 We did.
00:13:28.800 We did.
00:13:29.360 But most people, once they get to easy, they stay at easy.
00:13:33.700 Like, dude, most people choose easy over winning many times a day.
00:13:37.840 Yeah.
00:13:38.700 Over the course of the day.
00:13:40.060 That's because they don't start the day off with a win.
00:13:42.100 Yeah.
00:13:42.380 That's why I said.
00:13:42.960 That's a big deal.
00:13:44.080 I used to be a guy who was not really like a morning routine.
00:13:47.400 People, like people used to ask me, they'd be like, what's your morning routine?
00:13:50.640 I'm like, what does it really fucking matter?
00:13:52.300 Because like I'm producing the result, right?
00:13:55.040 Like you and I agree on this, you know, like I don't give a fuck what I got to go through
00:13:58.580 as long as the result is there.
00:14:00.500 But then I actually started like keeping myself to a routine, just my own routine.
00:14:07.480 And dude, it's a huge deal to start off with a win.
00:14:09.580 It really is.
00:14:10.340 Yeah.
00:14:10.540 Like my first thing that I like to do when I wake up is I started listening to a little
00:14:15.180 bit of Huberman's podcast.
00:14:17.000 I don't know if you have listened to him, but I don't listen to the podcast because I don't
00:14:20.560 have time, but I've seen a couple of clips where he's talking about like early, early morning
00:14:25.600 sunlight in your eyes.
00:14:27.420 So like what I like to do is get out and do cardio right away, like as quickly as possible.
00:14:32.320 And where I was doing my cardio afternoon and I was lifting in the morning, I've now switched
00:14:36.860 where I'm doing my cardio first thing and just getting out and moving and getting that
00:14:40.760 sun in my eyes, bro, when I'm done with that, I feel like I have all the momentum in the world
00:14:45.820 already going, you know, and that's something that like I didn't need before, but it sure
00:14:51.580 does feel good to have, you know?
00:14:53.400 Well, when you talk about, when you talk about, you know, routines and so forth, I say there's
00:14:58.960 two different types of routines and both routines create comfort.
00:15:02.980 Both routines create comfort.
00:15:05.120 There's routine that creates comfort out of boredom, meaning you do the same thing every
00:15:11.400 single day over and over and over again.
00:15:14.220 And it doesn't advance, it doesn't advance you and it keeps you in the same place.
00:15:18.920 So it puts you, it's out of boredom and puts you in comfort, all right?
00:15:24.520 Then there's a routine out of skill, you know, your workout, your sunlight, all right?
00:15:33.420 That's a routine out of skill.
00:15:35.100 And what that does, that also creates comfort because you do it over and over and over and
00:15:42.340 over again.
00:15:43.300 That's, you know, it's just like when you work with an athlete or you work with an individual
00:15:46.940 you've done, you and I joked about this.
00:15:49.560 You said, you know, I don't know how many episodes of this podcast that you've done all
00:15:53.820 together, but you said it took me 150 before I finally got this thing right.
00:15:59.460 No, it took me 150 not to suck.
00:16:01.380 Okay.
00:16:01.580 It took you 150, right.
00:16:02.640 It was 150 not to suck.
00:16:04.100 According to some people, I still suck.
00:16:05.200 I sent him a text joking.
00:16:09.160 I said, I think I was 149, but see what I'm trying to say is that routine over and over
00:16:17.080 and over again, all right, through skill created the comfort for you to be at this level, not
00:16:26.000 out of boredom.
00:16:26.640 It's, it's, it is weird.
00:16:28.340 It's a weird, it's a weird thing to try to explain to someone that, cause they, you
00:16:35.100 know, it's acclimation, right?
00:16:36.460 Like it's like, when I try it, when I try to explain this to people, I try to talk to
00:16:41.260 them in terms of like getting in a cold swimming pool, right?
00:16:44.340 Like, I'm not talking about cold plunge.
00:16:47.240 Like most people never really acclimate to the cold plunge.
00:16:49.420 I'm talking about just like, you know, it's in the summertime, dude.
00:16:51.500 It's a hundred degrees outside.
00:16:53.120 Pool's a little cold.
00:16:54.360 All right.
00:16:55.060 You get in, you're like, Oh.
00:16:56.640 You're like, fuck, it's cold in here.
00:16:58.600 And you look around and, you know, everybody's like looking at you like, fuck.
00:17:02.300 And then like you get in the water.
00:17:03.360 Right.
00:17:03.960 And then three, four minutes later, you're like, I don't even notice it.
00:17:08.820 Yeah.
00:17:09.000 Jump in the water.
00:17:09.640 Yeah.
00:17:10.000 And that's, that's what happens when you start to, and that no matter what you choose, no
00:17:15.760 matter if you choose the easy way, that's going to lead you to losing.
00:17:20.120 It's going to lead you to frustration.
00:17:22.540 That's going to feel comfortable.
00:17:24.000 But if you put in just a little bit of time, like a little bit of time, and when I'm talking
00:17:29.360 about a little bit of time, I don't mean a day.
00:17:30.720 I mean a few months of your time.
00:17:32.520 Okay.
00:17:33.380 In the big scheme of things, getting uncomfortable, you will eventually find yourself in a state
00:17:38.520 of comfort in this thing that you think is uncomfortable now, which will actually produce an entire
00:17:45.140 different life.
00:17:46.240 And you'll be just as comfortable as you are doing nothing.
00:17:49.980 And that's, that's like the hard thing to get people to understand is like, once you're
00:17:54.400 acclimated, it's, it's the baseline of it is automatic, right?
00:18:00.160 Like the true champions, and you know this way better than me, but like the true champions,
00:18:05.260 the, the, that baseline is established.
00:18:08.480 And then they try to push, push, push, push, push, always, always pushing.
00:18:12.300 Yeah.
00:18:12.440 But the baseline doesn't erode.
00:18:13.780 No.
00:18:14.280 Which keeps them at a much higher level than most people just by breathing.
00:18:18.460 Right.
00:18:18.900 And most people will never put in the time to let themselves become comfortable with the
00:18:26.580 discomfort to where it becomes automatic.
00:18:28.740 Yeah.
00:18:29.180 And that's the key.
00:18:30.000 What you just said, it's about the time they want things now.
00:18:34.000 Yeah.
00:18:34.520 All right.
00:18:35.040 They're like, you know, you're, you come in and they're like, you know, give me a six
00:18:38.180 week program.
00:18:39.780 Well, I give you a six week program.
00:18:43.040 That's just, that's, that's just a prerequisite.
00:18:45.700 Yeah.
00:18:45.900 Yeah.
00:18:46.220 You gotta do it the rest of your life though.
00:18:47.460 Yeah.
00:18:48.140 That's just, that's just a prerequisite.
00:18:49.540 Sure.
00:18:49.820 We give you a six week, but we give you a six week program.
00:18:52.200 We give you a six, six week talk.
00:18:53.800 We give you whatever, but that's just a pre, that's just a prerequisite.
00:18:57.920 You know, when people talk about this and you know, everybody in this room is gone, is
00:19:03.160 gone through this.
00:19:04.120 And when we talk about different levels of winning, I talk about, you know, what's the
00:19:10.920 price?
00:19:11.160 What is your price of all in?
00:19:12.960 When I had, when people come up to me, man, I'll do, I'll do anything until I tell them
00:19:17.440 what my definition of anything is.
00:19:19.100 Or I asked them what their definition of all in and people come in and just say, you know,
00:19:23.940 Oh, I'm a, I'm a hard worker.
00:19:25.840 I get up early.
00:19:27.240 I, I, I, I stay, I stay late.
00:19:29.700 I do all that.
00:19:30.200 I said, that's not all that.
00:19:31.680 That's a prerequisite.
00:19:32.800 Dude, that's the base.
00:19:34.080 That's, that's what I'm talking about.
00:19:35.760 Yeah.
00:19:36.220 That's the base.
00:19:37.220 Yeah.
00:19:37.620 That's just like everybody in this room.
00:19:39.300 That's the price of admission to the entry level version of success.
00:19:43.560 Yes.
00:19:44.480 Everybody's working that hard.
00:19:46.080 Everybody's doing those things.
00:19:47.720 Now we have to push further.
00:19:49.780 Yes.
00:19:50.140 Well, we talk about this with our team, Andrew, you know, it takes 42 days of development
00:19:54.780 of habit to even start to see the progress of success, whether it's in a weight loss journey,
00:19:59.560 whether it's in success journey, and it's not making the list harder and harder.
00:20:03.800 So if you're doing your five things, like my five things every day, I have to work out.
00:20:06.920 I have to track my food.
00:20:07.840 I have to read 10 pages.
00:20:09.200 I have to have some sort of reflection time.
00:20:10.800 I have to have family time.
00:20:11.740 I have to prioritize those things, not half in, not half out.
00:20:15.220 No, because if you don't prioritize them, it's not happening.
00:20:17.760 Yeah.
00:20:17.900 And it's on the front side of the bell curve, you know, those, and I don't have to add more
00:20:21.560 to the list.
00:20:22.500 I have to prioritize the things that get me moving in the right direction.
00:20:25.600 And I have to use the power of compounding interest, which is daily.
00:20:29.500 I have to stay disciplined to the process daily to get myself into a point where I can
00:20:33.940 buy into the success.
00:20:34.880 And it's going to take, it takes 40 days, takes 50 days.
00:20:38.040 Yeah.
00:20:38.240 But what you find after that 42 days, what happens after that?
00:20:40.920 Then you start to see success.
00:20:42.500 And it goes, what, slower or faster?
00:20:44.620 No, it starts to speed up.
00:20:45.400 It compounds.
00:20:46.140 And I think that's the piece of, you know, getting comfortable, being uncomfortable, right?
00:20:49.420 It's just development, the discipline, and what happens when you break it.
00:20:52.140 Now you're uncomfortable because you broke the habit, break the routine.
00:20:54.480 I think part of the problem is too, man, is like we always heard growing up that 21 days
00:20:58.660 for a new habit, 21 days for a new habit, 21 days, that might be true.
00:21:02.500 There might be some science behind it.
00:21:04.040 And there is, but that 21 days is not like, that's not the habit is you now.
00:21:08.660 That's like the beginning of a new habit.
00:21:11.720 Right.
00:21:12.140 That's the start.
00:21:13.340 That's just the start of your foundation.
00:21:15.840 Yeah.
00:21:15.980 That's all it is.
00:21:16.800 It's just.
00:21:17.640 And it's a win.
00:21:18.460 Yeah.
00:21:18.740 It's a win.
00:21:19.340 Yeah.
00:21:19.500 It's definitely a win.
00:21:20.800 But everybody, listen, what we forget to do is we forget to consistently work on our foundation.
00:21:26.860 You know, those are your principles that you said, hey, this is what I do.
00:21:30.240 That makes your foundation so strong.
00:21:33.920 So if anything else doesn't work, because anything else is not controllable, you control
00:21:41.680 those things because the rest of the things that are going to happen in the day are uncontrollable.
00:21:46.660 If your foundation is strong, your foundation is solid, it's something that you do every
00:21:53.120 single day.
00:21:53.780 You can't control the uncontrollable, but what it makes the uncontrollable easier to manage
00:21:59.740 because you always have this, you have this foundation that's, this is my principles.
00:22:05.020 These are my cores.
00:22:05.880 This is, this is what, this is what, this is what I do.
00:22:08.540 But what happens is you didn't start with five.
00:22:11.460 Everybody talks about, it's like when you had the new year's resolution come in or you
00:22:15.180 had the workout system come in, everybody says, okay, they've been, and you talk about
00:22:21.460 this, Andrew, all the time at the beginning of the year, you haven't worked out all, you
00:22:25.260 haven't worked out all year.
00:22:26.520 You've been eating, you've been eating like shit, you've been drinking, you've been doing
00:22:29.700 all the different things.
00:22:30.620 And then all of a sudden a date on a calendar switches and you says, I'm going to go work
00:22:35.220 out three hours a day.
00:22:36.240 I'm not going to eat this food anymore.
00:22:37.580 I'm going to stop drinking.
00:22:38.540 I'm going to do all this.
00:22:39.380 I'm going to do, do all that.
00:22:42.480 Three days later, you're done.
00:22:43.820 Yeah.
00:22:44.060 Because you didn't build a foundation.
00:22:47.480 You didn't build a foundation.
00:22:48.620 And if you did build a foundation, you built too much, you put too much weight on that
00:22:53.940 foundation.
00:22:54.700 Like you start off with one thing.
00:22:56.220 Hey, this is what I'm, this is what I'm going to do.
00:22:57.980 Then you add number two and you add number three.
00:22:59.920 Then you add number four.
00:23:00.860 Then you add number five.
00:23:02.300 After you know the foundation could handle the first thing, then it can handle the second
00:23:08.880 thing that can handle the third thing.
00:23:10.560 That's how you stack your wins.
00:23:12.980 When you were talking about the, the building, the foundation, another thing too, that I could add
00:23:17.540 to that because I, I agree with everything that you're saying.
00:23:21.360 The, the other part of that is that when you like so many people feel so uncertain and so
00:23:29.020 out of control, right?
00:23:30.520 Like they feel like even successful people and dude, I know that you've probably dealt with
00:23:36.060 this with a million times with athletes.
00:23:37.800 They feel like their world can be crushed at any given moment, right?
00:23:41.480 Like something could happen and it can, things do happen.
00:23:46.300 Like, you know, sometimes your world can collapse all at once, but by building this foundation,
00:23:52.960 you're creating a scenario where you are consistently doing these things that other people are not
00:24:01.200 doing.
00:24:01.680 And because other people are not doing it and because this is a competition when it comes
00:24:08.100 to terms of success, what you're doing by continuing to build on this foundation is you're actually
00:24:15.520 creating security for your success because the uncontrollable things that come in, if your foundation
00:24:22.480 is strong, those things are not going to likely crush you.
00:24:26.980 And even if they do crush you and you're, and let's just say you lose your business, you
00:24:31.160 lose your fucking sports career, whatever.
00:24:33.560 If you continue to operate on that standard where you're, where you're building the space
00:24:37.980 every day and continue to push, you're going to be right back where you were before you
00:24:41.860 know it because the momentum never really slows down.
00:24:44.920 And this is why I'm such a big proponent of looking at it as, you know, a daily, a daily
00:24:50.200 thing.
00:24:50.660 You know, this is not so I, I feel like so many people misunderstand.
00:24:55.880 Understand and overcomplicate how the, cause dude winning is really fucking simple.
00:25:01.840 Is it easy?
00:25:02.880 Absolutely not.
00:25:03.800 But it's very simple.
00:25:05.300 And we overcomplicate it by looking at it as like over the course of our life, you know,
00:25:11.300 it's kind of like that saying, if you take care of the pennies, the dollars take care
00:25:15.160 of themselves.
00:25:15.940 Well, if you take care of the days and you win the days, your, your life's going to look
00:25:19.820 like a win when you're all said and done.
00:25:21.240 And so if we could just get people to understand, that's how it really works.
00:25:27.560 Because before, before I had ever done anything of significance, which I still don't feel like
00:25:34.120 I've done that much significant stuff, but like, dude, you know, we, we've done some
00:25:37.320 things at this point in my life.
00:25:39.020 Like, I always thought there was more magic to it.
00:25:43.420 I always thought there was more mystery to it.
00:25:45.520 And there was more like, there were secrets that people weren't telling me.
00:25:50.100 You get what I'm saying?
00:25:51.220 Yeah.
00:25:51.560 Like, like it can't just be do your shit today and then do your shit tomorrow and then do
00:25:58.220 your shit the next day.
00:25:59.320 And if you do those things and you keep doing those things, your life is going to turn out
00:26:02.700 exactly what you plan it to be.
00:26:04.100 Like, it can't be that except here I am on the other side of that thinking.
00:26:08.720 And I'm telling you, that's exactly what it is.
00:26:10.940 And so many people have a hard time understanding that in the beginning because winning and, and,
00:26:16.920 and being a champion, cause like, dude, let's, let's, let's be real.
00:26:20.320 Like you guys like me and you and you, and we, we don't, we don't exist for, for getting
00:26:26.700 by like, like you have to be someone who has a mindset of dominating or kicking ass or winning
00:26:33.600 at a high level to really get our content anyway.
00:26:37.300 And so when we really break this down and we think about how it really works, you know,
00:26:45.220 the reason it's so confusing to most people is because they never get to meet a real champion
00:26:51.020 in real life ever.
00:26:53.580 Like, think about that.
00:26:54.700 Like you're surrounded by these people all the time.
00:26:57.420 I am too at this point, right?
00:26:59.180 Like I don't even have conversations with people that aren't doing that.
00:27:02.160 Neither do you.
00:27:02.740 Okay.
00:27:03.500 Like everybody I know, everybody I personally text with, you know, they're either a cleaner
00:27:09.800 or they're close to being a cleaner.
00:27:11.880 They're on their way to being a cleaner, right?
00:27:14.160 Real talk.
00:27:15.120 And so we, we're so immersed in it now that it's like obvious.
00:27:21.960 It's like, oh, okay, well this makes perfect sense.
00:27:24.440 But you know, it's hard to get someone who's never been around it at all, or never even known
00:27:30.720 one single person.
00:27:31.700 Cause I remember dude, like when, like, remember, like, dude, we didn't grow up around fucking
00:27:36.360 people with Ferraris and shit like that.
00:27:38.380 Like, or whatever.
00:27:39.260 Like, like we grew up around like working class electricians and construction people.
00:27:44.920 And so like, you know, I used to be mystified when I would see like, um, somebody that had
00:27:53.260 like, like when our buddy had that, uh, that Mosler, remember?
00:27:57.260 And they had these exotic cars and this crazy shit.
00:28:01.340 And I'm like, what the fuck?
00:28:03.500 Like, how the fuck do you do this?
00:28:04.940 This is crazy.
00:28:05.640 And then, but the reality is, is it's not crazy at all.
00:28:08.560 It's just very simple formula that you have to repeat every single day.
00:28:11.120 It's crazy to think that you can't.
00:28:14.380 That's, that's what I'm saying.
00:28:15.400 So you brought up two interesting, interesting points that I want to.
00:28:18.580 Like, I wish I could just inject people with like some reality of that.
00:28:22.080 Yeah.
00:28:22.240 Well, you have, but people aren't, people aren't that, that, that injection hurts.
00:28:28.760 Yeah.
00:28:29.900 That injection hurts.
00:28:31.300 All right.
00:28:32.080 So here's the thing that you said, people are, you know, they're looking that, you know,
00:28:36.640 they're looking for their wins, but what they forget that winning is looking back at them.
00:28:41.320 And it's a stare down.
00:28:43.580 It's a stare down.
00:28:44.680 Winning's looking at you and wants to make you blink, wants to make you turn into a different
00:28:49.360 direction.
00:28:49.900 It's like literally a face off in an MMA fight or boxing where they're going back, they're
00:28:57.020 going, they're going back at each other.
00:28:58.440 They're going back at each other.
00:28:59.780 And like winning, winning knows exactly what you're doing, what you're looking at.
00:29:05.600 And so forth, it wants you to blink.
00:29:07.160 It wants to force you into it.
00:29:08.720 It wants to force you in a different direction because it wants to see how, how worthy you
00:29:12.820 are.
00:29:13.120 So it's a, it's literally a face off.
00:29:15.360 It's a, it's a face off.
00:29:16.620 And the other thing that I want to talk about is when you talked about having that, having
00:29:21.700 that foundation and when things do crumble, it's, it's, you can get, you can get back.
00:29:28.340 And I always talk about, I always like to give real examples.
00:29:31.460 Hell, this is a fucking real, real AF.
00:29:33.100 So I like to give perfect examples before you actually, you didn't set it up for, for seven
00:29:40.820 years, I was just bullshitting around and so forth.
00:29:42.740 Then, then it got, then I got really, really serious.
00:29:45.740 Andrew, imagine seven, eight years ago.
00:29:51.560 If you would have tore your shoulder up back then, it would have ruined my life.
00:29:55.300 Okay.
00:29:55.960 Yeah.
00:29:56.240 If you, if whatever you were just recently going through, imagine that if you didn't
00:30:06.400 build the seven years of the foundation and things and people think, oh, I won't say things
00:30:12.860 crumbled for you, but they got extremely difficult.
00:30:15.080 But those seven years of constantly building that foundation, stacking that win every single
00:30:22.780 day, stare, stare, staring it down, doing something that was honest, doing something
00:30:27.720 that was uncomfortable.
00:30:30.000 When that shoulder hits you and that other element hits you, like you said, if it was back
00:30:36.520 then you were done.
00:30:37.680 Yeah.
00:30:37.980 There's no question.
00:30:38.860 And guys, you, you guys just so you understand, Tim and I talk about this personally, like this
00:30:44.680 is, he knows about this whole scenario and everything we've talked about, but dude, you, you, I
00:30:51.120 think about that.
00:30:51.920 Like I, I, I like between the time.
00:30:56.420 So for those of you who don't know, I, I totally destroyed my shoulder.
00:30:59.960 I had, I, uh, I had a full shoulder rebuild.
00:31:03.520 Um, I, I had the injury September of 21.
00:31:05.820 I had surgery in December of 21 and it's been an entire, it took me an entire year to really
00:31:11.780 be able to lift again.
00:31:12.900 And during that time you asked like, what would have happened?
00:31:16.240 Here's what would have happened.
00:31:18.360 Because I was in the best shape I'd ever been when I got hurt.
00:31:21.040 All right.
00:31:21.400 And I'm not far off from that right now.
00:31:23.180 I'm probably by the end of this round of 75 hard, I will have surpassed that in my opinion.
00:31:29.560 What would have happened?
00:31:30.700 Let me change it.
00:31:31.820 It won't be an opinion.
00:31:32.760 It'll be a fact.
00:31:33.540 Yeah.
00:31:33.720 Well, I'm trying to be humble.
00:31:35.360 Yeah.
00:31:35.560 Fuck.
00:31:36.980 Don't try.
00:31:37.960 You motherfuckers are going to see.
00:31:39.300 Yeah.
00:31:40.440 We're not, we're not trying a new recipe here.
00:31:42.440 Yeah.
00:31:42.660 That one don't taste as good.
00:31:43.640 Yeah.
00:31:43.700 All right.
00:31:44.220 I respect that.
00:31:45.480 You're one of the, you're one of the two men I'll take some direction from.
00:31:48.080 Yeah.
00:31:48.380 I like that.
00:31:49.560 So yeah.
00:31:50.000 So anyway, motherfuckers, I'm going to be more jacked and tan than you ever fucking saw
00:31:53.640 me before.
00:31:54.400 In 75 days.
00:31:55.860 All right.
00:31:56.480 You quote me on that shit.
00:31:57.620 Yeah.
00:31:58.200 But what would have happened, bro, is I would have 100%.
00:32:03.760 What would have happened?
00:32:05.380 He would have been at Billy G's, which is a local bar.
00:32:07.840 He'd have been drinking.
00:32:08.860 He would have eaten.
00:32:09.900 How much, how much weight do you think I would have put on?
00:32:11.760 50, 60.
00:32:12.720 I would have been a plus three.
00:32:14.440 Yeah.
00:32:14.620 Oh yeah.
00:32:14.800 Without question.
00:32:15.280 Yeah.
00:32:15.540 I would have say you go from, you go from 270 to 320.
00:32:18.080 Yeah.
00:32:18.380 I would say I would be in a 320 range.
00:32:20.140 I wouldn't be full 350 Andy, but I'd be 315, 320.
00:32:24.020 And I'd be walking around being like, oh, you know, I'll just hurt my shoulder.
00:32:28.160 Fucking fuck me.
00:32:29.100 And I'd be telling all the bullshit.
00:32:30.220 All the bullshit.
00:32:30.720 You'd be able to throw football over the mountain.
00:32:32.040 Yeah, that's right.
00:32:32.460 But the whole, the real win for me, the real win, dude, was that like, so I, the surgeon
00:32:39.420 that did it, Dr. Nathan Maul, great dude.
00:32:43.440 He's like, look, it's a, this is a nine month surgery for a pro athlete.
00:32:46.560 So my goal was like, okay, I train like a pro athlete.
00:32:49.560 I eat like a pro athlete.
00:32:50.620 I'm going to fucking be back.
00:32:52.520 And I wasn't.
00:32:54.940 Okay.
00:32:55.220 And that was very hard for me to take.
00:32:56.640 You remember the conversation we had when you caught, when you, when you said way harder
00:33:01.260 than that.
00:33:01.680 Yeah.
00:33:01.860 I said, I said, yeah, this is not, I knew his man.
00:33:05.340 You know what?
00:33:05.720 And here's the thing.
00:33:06.680 Well, I was trying to do it in like five months.
00:33:08.180 Right.
00:33:08.460 He was trying to do it in five.
00:33:09.500 And when I told him, I said, I said, Andrew, I said, listen, I don't want to, I don't want
00:33:13.880 to discourage you, but I know what you're going through.
00:33:16.340 I know.
00:33:17.020 And you know what?
00:33:17.440 There was silence on the phone and this motherfucker hung up the phone on me.
00:33:20.980 Wow.
00:33:21.540 Damn.
00:33:22.140 I don't want to fucking hear it.
00:33:25.400 I'm like.
00:33:26.640 Hello?
00:33:28.560 Hello?
00:33:29.640 Look, dude, look, I don't want to hear it.
00:33:32.580 And, and, but that's, that's a product of the six years before that.
00:33:35.840 Yes.
00:33:36.280 A hundred percent.
00:33:37.140 Because the truth is, dude, I would have given up.
00:33:39.400 I would have used that as an excuse.
00:33:41.140 And, and I don't even talk about how hard it really was.
00:33:44.460 Like, like what I say on Instagram, I almost feel like I'm annoying people with the story.
00:33:48.920 But like, if I really told people what I went through from when I had that injury till
00:33:53.540 today, like it was a constant barrage of fucking bullshit.
00:33:57.680 And it wasn't just the shoulder.
00:33:59.480 It was me getting off antidepressants.
00:34:01.420 Then I got a blood infection.
00:34:03.060 Then like, dude, it's been thing after thing after thing.
00:34:05.580 And the true win of it, bro, is that here I am, I'm fucking probably not even 10 pounds
00:34:12.680 away from my best condition I've ever been in.
00:34:15.260 And, uh, you know, I'm not 330 fucking pounds, you know?
00:34:19.760 So that's a big win.
00:34:20.840 Yeah.
00:34:21.220 That's a, that's a life win for me because at my age, that would, that would have changed
00:34:25.380 the direction of my entire life.
00:34:26.760 And you have to continue to earn that win just because you've gotten that first, just
00:34:31.740 because you've gotten that win.
00:34:33.060 Now, you know, the win that you had to lose all the weight, that was a win.
00:34:37.520 All right.
00:34:38.000 The win after you tore your shoulder up and to come back, that's another win.
00:34:42.400 All right.
00:34:42.980 I'm not back yet.
00:34:43.860 All right.
00:34:44.180 Well, when you, you know, we don't, right.
00:34:47.300 And then coming back, coming again from, uh, from this, from this blood infection.
00:34:51.560 Now, what I'm trying to say is the same way he won, losing the weight is not going to
00:34:55.700 be the same way he want.
00:34:57.100 He's going to win from being a hundred percent back from the shoulder, being a hundred percent
00:35:01.700 back from the infection.
00:35:02.820 You have to continue to figure out different ways to win, but that foundation never, never
00:35:09.040 changes.
00:35:10.280 You know, it's funny.
00:35:11.420 Everybody, this is what everybody wants.
00:35:13.660 Everybody wants, they want it quickly.
00:35:17.180 They want it comfortably and they want it safely.
00:35:21.560 It's not possible.
00:35:23.220 That's why most people don't win.
00:35:24.420 Yeah.
00:35:24.680 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's not, it's not possible.
00:35:27.600 You cannot have anything quickly, comfortably and safely.
00:35:33.020 Do you know what the quick way is?
00:35:34.320 The quick way is to understand what you just said and accept that.
00:35:37.340 Now you're on the quick path because now you've accepted that there is no quick way.
00:35:42.380 And the actual only way is actually pretty quick too.
00:35:46.880 You can do it pretty quick in the relative scheme of your entire life.
00:35:50.260 Yes.
00:35:50.580 But the reason it's not happening quick for you is because you think there's a quicker
00:35:54.260 way.
00:35:54.720 And the reason you think there's a quicker way is because people will market that shit
00:35:58.220 for the last 30 fucking years.
00:35:59.860 21 days.
00:36:00.620 Yeah.
00:36:00.820 Right.
00:36:01.640 Seven day abs, you know, shit like this.
00:36:04.160 Okay.
00:36:04.520 Seven, seven pounds of muscle in three days of taking this prop.
00:36:07.380 Like, bro, all of these, all of this stuff, you know, millionaire in 12 days, like, you
00:36:14.180 know, all this crazy shit, like people have been conditioned to believe that, you know,
00:36:18.940 that that's how it works.
00:36:20.500 And then when it doesn't work that way for them, because that's not the way it works,
00:36:24.060 who do they actually blame?
00:36:25.600 Do they blame them?
00:36:27.180 Do they blame the people who told them these lies?
00:36:30.220 No, they actually blame themselves.
00:36:32.920 And they say, well, I guess I don't have what it takes to lose weight.
00:36:35.960 Or I don't get, I guess I don't have what it takes to be successful.
00:36:39.280 Or I guess I don't have what it takes to be a good athlete or whatever it is.
00:36:43.940 Fill in the blank.
00:36:44.580 Right.
00:36:44.900 So we blame ourselves and we continue to look for the quick solution because these marketers
00:36:49.820 fucking understand that that's how humans think.
00:36:51.920 Yes.
00:36:52.700 You can't get anywhere.
00:36:54.700 Forget about the quickly part.
00:36:56.500 All right.
00:36:56.860 Success.
00:36:58.020 All right.
00:36:59.420 You can't get success comfortably being comfortable.
00:37:04.580 You can't.
00:37:05.640 You can't get, you can't get success being, being easy.
00:37:11.620 It just, it just can't.
00:37:13.540 It doesn't, it doesn't come.
00:37:15.040 Winds do not come from being, from being comfortable.
00:37:18.580 All right.
00:37:19.140 They don't come.
00:37:20.380 Yes, you're absolutely right.
00:37:21.780 They do come from quick.
00:37:24.180 You can be quick, but you can't hurry.
00:37:26.160 There's a huge, there's a huge difference.
00:37:27.480 I'm just saying quick in terms of like, like, yeah, it's not 21 days, bro, but it's not
00:37:32.420 fucking 21 years either.
00:37:33.840 It's within your, it's within your life.
00:37:35.640 Yeah.
00:37:35.900 And here's the thing.
00:37:36.840 The one thing.
00:37:38.840 I mean, you could change your fucking life, bro.
00:37:40.840 Like, like, like we see it every day with 75 hard.
00:37:43.980 Every day.
00:37:44.720 You can make a massive change.
00:37:46.000 In 75 days.
00:37:47.200 Yes.
00:37:47.980 Massive.
00:37:48.460 In, in 75, in 75 days.
00:37:50.780 But after that, there's a lot of work to do too.
00:37:52.480 Right.
00:37:52.800 But it's, listen, it's, it's not comfortable.
00:37:56.120 Yeah.
00:37:57.240 No, it's not.
00:37:57.820 It's not comfortable and it's not safe either.
00:38:00.400 It's not safe.
00:38:01.300 You are, it's safe from safe, meaning you got to go outside.
00:38:04.260 You know, ah, you know what?
00:38:05.760 I'm going to walk my dog.
00:38:07.100 No, that's not, that's not, that's not part of the, that's not part of the program.
00:38:11.060 You know what?
00:38:11.540 I don't want to do the second workout, ah, ah, outside.
00:38:14.440 And the one thing I get so upset, said about, and you've said this over and over and over
00:38:20.580 again, all right?
00:38:21.580 And this is why, one of the reasons people fail, because they're not understanding.
00:38:29.680 75 hard is not a program to win physically.
00:38:36.860 It's a program to win mentally.
00:38:42.740 I believe that's what I've called it the whole time.
00:38:46.960 The whole, but for some reason, everybody just like.
00:38:49.200 Because people fucking don't understand, bro.
00:38:51.800 You have to have the mental before the physical is real.
00:38:55.260 The physical byproducts of those 75 days are just a byproduct of your execution.
00:38:59.840 Just like Nick Saban comes out in the fucking football field and says, motherfuckers, you're
00:39:03.800 running this play until you can't get it wrong.
00:39:06.200 We're not running it until we get it right a couple of times.
00:39:08.940 We're running it till you can't fuck it up.
00:39:10.940 When you fucking take your mentality that seriously, and you put the time into it, and you do these
00:39:16.800 habits, and you execute on a day-by-day-by-day basis, now you're in a position to where the
00:39:22.320 win materializes automatically.
00:39:24.180 I just did an Andy Graham blog about this this morning.
00:39:26.900 I was talking about how champions focus on the execution of the play to perfection, understanding
00:39:35.240 that the score and the money and the shit that comes with it is automatic result of this.
00:39:40.120 And players, people who play, they think that the score, the money, is the point of the
00:39:46.080 game.
00:39:46.620 That's not the fucking point of the game.
00:39:48.300 The point of the game is perfect execution over here.
00:39:51.540 This shit just comes with it.
00:39:52.880 And it's the same mentality with entrepreneurs, dude.
00:39:56.560 Entrepreneurs think, like, dude, I mean, you speak as much as anybody.
00:40:00.780 You know what they say when you say, hey, what's the purpose of a business?
00:40:03.760 99% say, what?
00:40:06.100 To make money.
00:40:07.120 It's not to fucking make money.
00:40:08.500 That's why you don't make any fucking money.
00:40:10.120 The purpose of the business is to serve the customer.
00:40:13.220 And the better that you serve the customer, the more consistent that you execute the play
00:40:17.520 on the customer.
00:40:19.120 That means taking care of their interests genuinely, solving their fucking problems,
00:40:23.360 doing what you can.
00:40:24.640 This part happens.
00:40:26.600 It's a byproduct.
00:40:27.980 And like, dude, this is just a perspective change that if most people would just understand.
00:40:33.480 The reason some of these people that like you, like I used to be one of these people.
00:40:37.660 I look at dudes like JB, right?
00:40:40.000 Like Jerry Bond, who walks around here looking like a freaking G.I. Joe character 24 hours a day.
00:40:44.180 And I'd be like, what the fuck?
00:40:46.680 Like, why can he live his life normal and look like that?
00:40:52.640 And I live my life normal.
00:40:53.900 I look like this.
00:40:54.620 But then I watch what he does.
00:40:56.440 Then I watch what he eats.
00:40:57.860 I watch how he moves.
00:40:59.780 And those things, because he was willing to put in enough time being uncomfortable, are
00:41:03.840 now comfortable for him.
00:41:05.220 So it's not a struggle.
00:41:06.700 And so he gets to walk around looking like G.I. Joe because he put the time in to be
00:41:10.940 comfortable with some habits that I didn't have.
00:41:13.640 You see what I'm saying?
00:41:14.700 And people don't look at it like that.
00:41:16.040 They get bitter about it.
00:41:17.140 They look at people who are winning and they say, fuck that guy.
00:41:20.400 Well, bro, if you would just remove your emotions and your self-pity for a minute and actually
00:41:24.400 look at the motherfucker winning, you would find out how to win too.
00:41:27.540 And it's real simple.
00:41:28.500 Change a couple little things, bro.
00:41:30.140 You could change your whole life by changing what you put in your fucking brain and what
00:41:33.960 you put in your mouth.
00:41:35.040 You could change your whole fucking life.
00:41:36.360 Whole life.
00:41:36.600 But I think there's some interesting things to unpack there because, you know, this is
00:41:39.620 as a listener, right?
00:41:41.420 They think to themselves, well, I don't have that.
00:41:44.200 What?
00:41:44.880 Everybody has the same.
00:41:46.640 Have what?
00:41:47.580 That's it.
00:41:48.020 That's exactly what he's saying.
00:41:49.240 That's my point.
00:41:50.400 My point being is, what?
00:41:52.340 What?
00:41:53.760 What is it?
00:41:55.620 Bro, it's just true.
00:41:56.620 It's a choice.
00:41:57.480 That's right.
00:41:58.180 What's the magic?
00:41:59.160 Nothing.
00:41:59.700 Doing it.
00:42:00.320 Doing the work.
00:42:00.880 Dude, it's listen.
00:42:02.500 But there's.
00:42:03.040 Listen, dude.
00:42:03.520 You know how absurd it is that I get paid all kinds of money to go tell people this?
00:42:08.080 Well, but I mean, it's a lot of money.
00:42:10.420 A lot of money.
00:42:11.280 Yeah, it's fucking crazy.
00:42:13.020 But you have to think, you know, like, you know, people are like, oh, you're so real.
00:42:16.380 I'm like, I'm just telling you the fucking truth, dude.
00:42:19.760 But you wish it was some shiny package program.
00:42:22.520 But the truth is, it's not.
00:42:23.780 You know, and you have to look at when you look at the deliverable.
00:42:26.440 You know, if you focus on being the best, the byproduct of that is whatever the money.
00:42:31.680 Right.
00:42:31.800 We were talking to this in my office about, you know, everybody focuses on making money.
00:42:34.920 You should focus on being the best.
00:42:36.600 Focus on executing the best that you can.
00:42:38.660 And the money comes.
00:42:39.700 Well, or the result.
00:42:41.080 Say the result.
00:42:41.440 Yeah, right.
00:42:41.760 It's the weight loss, the money, the score to basketball game, getting up, getting to be an all-star, getting in the hall of fame.
00:42:47.060 It's all the same shit.
00:42:47.900 A marriage.
00:42:48.560 A leader.
00:42:49.060 Whatever it is you're trying to do.
00:42:49.940 Right.
00:42:50.140 Whatever it is that you're trying to do, you have to execute in the finite, in the small things, daily, day after day after day after day.
00:42:58.200 And you have to learn to fall in love with the process.
00:43:00.140 Understanding that falling in love with the process is the key to success.
00:43:03.880 Well, and dude, you have to understand too, like something that you understand just because of your experience, I understand because of my experience, is the real fun, the real fucking fun, is the process.
00:43:14.940 It's the journey.
00:43:15.440 It's not the result.
00:43:16.920 Like people think it's the result because you haven't experienced it yet.
00:43:19.600 But just like you guys get a new pair of shoes and after a fucking week, it ain't cool anymore, that's the same thing for all the shit that you admire that you think is going to fix all your fucking problems.
00:43:30.140 It's like a new pair of fucking Nikes, bro.
00:43:32.040 In a week, you're not going to give a fuck.
00:43:33.740 And that's, we focus so obsessively on the end result, which is great because it produces the journey.
00:43:40.860 But in reality, the journey is the fucking jam, dude.
00:43:43.720 I think that's where a lot of the letdown is though, right?
00:43:46.120 People end up at the destination.
00:43:47.540 They say, well, this is it.
00:43:48.120 Like, well, I'm guilty of that a little bit.
00:43:50.180 No, we all are.
00:43:50.900 I think you have to go through that process.
00:43:52.880 Yeah, but like, dude, there was a time a few years ago, and you know this because you're my brother, and you know this because you're one of the only guys I actually talk to and listen to.
00:44:01.140 Fucking Yoda.
00:44:01.580 Yeah.
00:44:02.720 But like where I got, like there was a part of me, and I think I'm saying this to be transparent, so I hope some of you will listen and maybe not do what I did.
00:44:12.580 But like, it was so hard to get where we were trying to go, and I was so obsessively focused on the result that I forgot a little bit about the journey, right?
00:44:26.520 And now I look back at some of those times, like now today when I come in, I try to make it a point to enjoy the people around and like to have conversations and like get to know like what's going on.
00:44:37.580 And like, I really value that.
00:44:40.520 That was, but like for a long time, dude, I was, it was so fucking hard that like I just didn't carry it by anything but producing a result.
00:44:47.140 And like now I look back at that time, and I'm like, fuck, that was some of the most fun shit we ever did.
00:44:53.140 So what, what win happened in your life for you to look at things this way now?
00:45:01.800 Well, I think it's a maturity aspect.
00:45:05.440 I don't think it's one win.
00:45:06.460 Yeah, it wasn't, dude.
00:45:07.740 Dude, it was a, there was a point in time a couple years ago in this where I realized, and this is going to sound fucked up a little bit, but it's the truth.
00:45:20.380 I realized that I couldn't literally show anything of my life, any point of it, not my house, not in my house, not here, not in my garage, not anywhere without people interpreting it as a fucking brag.
00:45:34.140 Like, and I was like, damn, like when you could point a fucking camera at anything in your life and it's fucking, people see it as bragging, you're fucking, you're, you're fucking doing something, dude.
00:45:45.400 And I realized that, right?
00:45:48.340 And then I thought about it and I'm like, well, if I knew I was going to be here and I was going to be at this point in time where, you know, it's undeniable, like it's undeniable.
00:45:59.420 If I would have known that I was going to be there, I would have appreciated the ride a little bit more.
00:46:03.140 You know what I'm saying?
00:46:04.400 And, and I would have appreciated a lot more, but it's cool.
00:46:07.520 It's also cool because now I realize it and I get to appreciate what we're doing now in a different way.
00:46:12.760 And so there's pluses and minuses because part of me thinks like it was necessary.
00:46:17.380 Well, yeah.
00:46:17.800 Part of me is like, bro, I was like required to be that way to get to the, it's like, it's like how you talk about, you know, how, how you talk about how Michael was right.
00:46:26.180 Like when, when he was like, he was so fucking, he didn't give a fuck about anything other than just that.
00:46:31.200 And like, so like when you, this is why I love your book so much because it helps me understand a part of my life.
00:46:37.960 And like, dude, when, when, um, you know, in the, in the last dance when he got emotional,
00:46:43.880 because like he realized that like some of his teammates fucking actually still didn't really like him.
00:46:49.080 Yeah.
00:46:49.720 When in reality, his whole fucking intent of his being was to make them better.
00:46:55.260 Yep.
00:46:55.500 And like, I really resonated with that, bro, because like just over the course of time, you know, there's employees that come and go and there's, you know, I always feel bad when they don't make it because I feel responsible for them.
00:47:07.680 Right.
00:47:08.000 And I have to let, let go and realize like, dude, I'm not responsible for everybody's decisions, but it's still fucking hard.
00:47:14.240 And it's hard when you're, when you're, when you hold a high standard for people like he did, and then they fucking hate you for it.
00:47:22.260 And all you're trying to do is fucking help them.
00:47:24.520 All you're trying to do is make them better.
00:47:26.380 They might hate you for that moment, but that's what they're going to, right.
00:47:29.140 They love you long-term.
00:47:30.180 They're going to love, they're going to love you long-term.
00:47:32.160 Like I tell those people in Arte, I tell, I tell, I talk about that on the show too.
00:47:35.940 You know, I'm okay with someone hating me today to thank me five years from now for saying the truth to them.
00:47:42.100 So it's funny when we wrote Relentless, when Sherry and I wrote Relentless, we had so many people that came up to us and said, that book changed my life.
00:47:55.400 That booked, that booked, that booked, say, that book saved me.
00:47:57.980 Yeah, I was one of them.
00:47:58.800 Yeah.
00:47:59.080 That's how I met you.
00:48:00.020 Yeah.
00:48:00.340 Remember we met, we met at the first 10X we met at Cardone's event.
00:48:04.400 Yep.
00:48:04.880 We were both speaking.
00:48:06.800 And you were sitting right next to me.
00:48:08.560 Yeah.
00:48:08.760 You were literally sitting right next to me.
00:48:10.620 And before, I think you recognized me before I recognized you.
00:48:14.080 I did.
00:48:14.780 Because I had been posting your book on my social and we've been driving some sales.
00:48:19.000 And I remember you looked over and you go, Andy?
00:48:20.920 And I'm like, holy shit, dude, that's Tim Grover.
00:48:22.700 He knows who the fuck I am.
00:48:25.320 I couldn't believe it.
00:48:27.160 Because dude, that real book, and I've told you this.
00:48:29.160 Yeah.
00:48:29.520 Like what I tell you about the book, I told you I wouldn't sell it ever, no matter how much money.
00:48:34.080 Not a single one of you motherfuckers out there could buy that book from me for any amount of money because it saved my fucking life.
00:48:38.880 I've told you that.
00:48:40.700 I told you that then.
00:48:41.480 The first thing I met you.
00:48:42.060 He's told me that numerous times.
00:48:45.880 And then when after winning came in, I mean after Relentless, Relentless was about the mindset.
00:48:53.400 And then when you guys talked about the journey, winning, if you've read Relentless, you have to read Winning.
00:48:59.200 Because Relentless is the mindset, winning is about the journey and what you're going to see, feel, taste along the journey.
00:49:11.020 You know, we talk, you guys talk a lot about the journey.
00:49:13.520 And one of the chapters that we talk about all the time that, you know, everyone talks about, it's, you know, it's not a sprint.
00:49:21.900 It's a marathon.
00:49:22.600 So I say, I go the other way.
00:49:24.960 I said, it's, it's multiple sprints within a marathon that has no finish line because the only way, when you, Utah guys talk about the journey and all that other stuff.
00:49:36.960 So you get that journey, you go through the journey, and there has to be joy in that journey.
00:49:43.480 There has to be joy in that journey.
00:49:46.900 All right.
00:49:47.360 You get there, you get that, you get that win.
00:49:50.800 But to get that feeling again, the sprint starts all over again.
00:49:56.760 Immediately.
00:49:57.500 Immediately.
00:49:58.140 Then there's more joy.
00:50:00.740 And there's another win.
00:50:02.040 So that, that, that, that joy is infinite and that line continues to move all the time.
00:50:09.840 Look at here.
00:50:11.040 We talked about, we talked about this, or we talked about this earlier.
00:50:15.280 One building.
00:50:18.400 Roughly 200,000 square feet.
00:50:22.080 Second building.
00:50:24.660 Roughly 200,000 square feet.
00:50:27.280 Third building.
00:50:29.280 Roughly 200,000 square feet.
00:50:32.040 A sprint within a marathon with no finish line.
00:50:37.780 And the more, the, the, the, the, the line, the finish line just keeps moving, moving, and moving.
00:50:44.500 And as much doubt that you guys have, you have infinite amount of fear that pushes you towards those things.
00:50:55.780 There's a constant war that's going on in your head.
00:50:59.740 And if that war was to stop, you guys would be dead.
00:51:06.980 You guys would, you guys would literally be dead.
00:51:09.360 That's that, that's that war of that challenge to do more, not only for yourselves.
00:51:15.960 You've done so much for yourselves.
00:51:18.020 Now it's about, what can I do for everyone else?
00:51:23.960 That's the drug, right?
00:51:25.340 That is.
00:51:25.840 It sounds like an addiction, man.
00:51:27.460 It's not just the drug.
00:51:27.820 It is an addiction.
00:51:28.900 It is an addiction.
00:51:30.020 But you have to trade one addiction for another.
00:51:32.200 You don't go from being 330 or wherever you were when you first, first going to be in that photo that you have where you're letting you, where you literally got a six pack and you got the veins sticking out of you.
00:51:46.760 You traded one addiction for another.
00:51:49.020 So you have to trade comfort for being uncomfortable at time.
00:51:54.380 You have to trade being sad for joy.
00:51:59.700 You have to trade thinking you have time, understanding your time is limited.
00:52:05.960 All your addictions have to change.
00:52:08.360 You have to, losing is an addiction.
00:52:11.120 Winning is an addiction.
00:52:12.660 Can I ask you guys this, because it's almost like there's a piece of awareness that I think people are missing then, right?
00:52:20.740 Like when you, when you, when you talk about like addictions, right?
00:52:22.880 There's a high and you ask somebody who does drugs.
00:52:25.340 Why do you get, why, why, why do you take drugs the first time?
00:52:27.400 There's no.
00:52:28.240 Because I wanted the high.
00:52:29.260 There's no.
00:52:29.760 Why do you do it again?
00:52:30.560 I don't think it's just a drug, dude.
00:52:32.200 Like you got, I think people need to understand the practicality of what Tim's talking about here.
00:52:35.960 Because this is how, dude, the reason that you see so many people have a little bit of success and then fail is because they don't understand what he just described.
00:52:48.280 They, they, they, they take that first sprint and they run it.
00:52:51.460 And then they're like, well, fuck, I'm successful.
00:52:53.300 And then they create their identity as a successful human.
00:52:56.760 Right.
00:52:57.140 Right.
00:52:58.080 And don't realize you got another 60 years, bro.
00:53:00.540 You got to do it again if you want.
00:53:01.460 But I think that's, yeah.
00:53:02.000 That's the high only lasts for so long.
00:53:03.660 But that's the, the, the winning only lasts for so long and it's so quick and it's there and it's over and it's a new thing.
00:53:12.860 All right.
00:53:13.340 So I'm going to cut you off for a quick second here.
00:53:15.380 So I, and I like the, I like to use real examples of the people that I'm taught, that I'm talking about.
00:53:20.160 All right.
00:53:22.660 And this is to what DJ was talking about.
00:53:27.280 When was this building built?
00:53:29.780 June of 20.
00:53:31.160 June of 20.
00:53:32.360 All right.
00:53:32.640 What was the plans for the next one?
00:53:34.980 We didn't have any, we didn't have any plans for the next one at that time.
00:53:38.740 We thought this was going to take like five years to fill up.
00:53:41.460 Okay.
00:53:41.960 And how long did it take?
00:53:43.340 Two and a half.
00:53:44.100 No, it didn't.
00:53:44.860 A year.
00:53:46.080 It actually took about, it actually took about a year.
00:53:49.900 So now one building, if you would have said this is success and this is it.
00:53:56.120 But I, I, that's where the point I was going is the buy-in.
00:54:00.140 I think the 75 hard, like you get to 75.
00:54:02.120 Now what?
00:54:02.420 That's the buy-in.
00:54:03.140 Well, that's why it's, that's why it's live hard.
00:54:04.680 Not 75 hard.
00:54:05.300 Well, my point being is like the people, the people get to the destination and say, well,
00:54:08.360 I'm done.
00:54:08.840 No, motherfucker, you just got started.
00:54:10.300 That's the, that's the catch.
00:54:11.760 You know what I'm saying?
00:54:12.020 Well, that's why I get so pissed off when I see people go right back to their old shit.
00:54:15.880 The first fucking second they get an opportunity to.
00:54:18.940 They missed the point.
00:54:19.900 It didn't stick, bro.
00:54:20.580 Like that.
00:54:20.860 And the reason it didn't stick, by the way, is because you weren't doing the shit the
00:54:24.860 exact right way.
00:54:25.740 That, that, that I am now, are there exceptions?
00:54:30.480 Yes.
00:54:31.100 Cause people get pissed when I say this shit.
00:54:32.920 Cause they're like, well, I did everything and I celebrated.
00:54:35.260 Yeah.
00:54:35.940 Okay.
00:54:36.560 But what happened right after you celebrate?
00:54:38.980 Right.
00:54:40.480 You should have felt guilty.
00:54:42.020 Right.
00:54:42.220 Yeah.
00:54:42.480 And so sometimes it takes the first time going like, I can understand that.
00:54:47.480 But what I'm saying is in general, when you've made a ton of positive momentum in your
00:54:53.320 life and you go right back to the thing that created the old way, you're, you're, you're
00:54:58.200 going to feel that.
00:54:59.440 If you really made the positive way, you should be trying to replicate that.
00:55:01.800 Well, and I, and I want to highlight a couple of things here because, you know, you talk
00:55:05.020 about, you know, you get paid a lot to do these things.
00:55:07.280 You're, you're, you're, you're teaching them perspective.
00:55:08.900 This is what you pay for.
00:55:09.980 You're paying for perspective in life.
00:55:11.800 And I think about like, well, you know, it's not on our responsibility, but the coaches
00:55:16.060 you remember the most and the coaches you care about the most, the coaches that
00:55:18.920 taught you the most were also the most, you were the most accountable to.
00:55:21.500 They were, they demanded the most out of you.
00:55:23.240 That's a good question.
00:55:23.860 So those are the ones that you hated the most of the times, right?
00:55:26.600 They, they required the most out of you.
00:55:28.160 They ran your fucking ass off.
00:55:29.500 They beat the shit out of you.
00:55:30.920 You motherfucked them to and from practice, but they're the ones that taught you the most
00:55:34.200 about life.
00:55:34.840 Yeah.
00:55:35.220 So it's part of our obligation as that generation of coaching, right?
00:55:38.560 That's, that's what we do.
00:55:39.440 We coach young people, ideally in a young audience where a young business person or an entrepreneur,
00:55:43.460 like you're supposed to be firm.
00:55:45.520 You're supposed to, to hold a high standard.
00:55:48.040 I think that's the purpose of being the leader.
00:55:50.400 And then the secondary, secondary thing is the perspective piece.
00:55:53.560 Like, you know, there's a perspective to understanding your point of, Hey, my life
00:55:58.340 looks like this, but I forgot about the journey.
00:56:01.760 And so now you coach to the journey.
00:56:03.560 You coach to saying, Hey, you need, you need to appreciate the ride.
00:56:06.400 And I wanted to hit fast forward too.
00:56:08.500 And the things that I missed when I hit fast forward, where I didn't, you know, I weren't
00:56:11.820 taking inventory of the things that were closest to my life.
00:56:13.800 And those, those are, those are journey pieces.
00:56:16.160 And this is the struggle that we have as, uh, as leadership now, you know, you're speaking
00:56:19.640 to a 20 year old or 25 year old, they want to hit the fast forward button.
00:56:23.500 Yeah.
00:56:23.880 It's like, but in miss the fucking one of the, some of the most fun shit, you miss everything.
00:56:28.000 You know, some of the most fun shit in our business journey was me and Chris in the
00:56:31.740 back of that first fucking store, which I, at the time I fucking hated.
00:56:35.480 I was so embarrassed of it.
00:56:37.280 You know what I mean?
00:56:38.020 But it's a story that you hold that nobody else holds.
00:56:40.380 Right.
00:56:40.580 It's kind of like me driving around the country.
00:56:42.060 I was, you know, last week when we were on the thing, it's like, it's a story that I,
00:56:45.720 that not only am I proud of.
00:56:47.320 Nobody can take it.
00:56:48.200 Nobody can take it from you.
00:56:49.300 You know, so the intangible, the intangible assets, which are the ones that build you into
00:56:52.940 the character that you are today, the work is done in the dark when it's not sexy,
00:56:58.240 when it's not fun, when it's not cool.
00:57:00.080 And that's the piece that makes it special.
00:57:02.540 Yeah.
00:57:02.740 And so when you learn to fall in love with that dark work, you're going to start to build
00:57:06.620 the moments that really define who you are as a human.
00:57:09.320 You know, that's the fucking beauty of it.
00:57:11.180 It's a weird, it's a weird love process because you're by yourself.
00:57:14.880 You're not really proud of it, but it's the work that's got to be done in order to be
00:57:18.100 successful in it.
00:57:18.940 You know, I got a big saying with winning.
00:57:20.600 I asked people this, and maybe you guys have heard this or, or read this already.
00:57:27.480 This is not a trick question.
00:57:28.760 All right.
00:57:30.540 When does a new day start?
00:57:34.480 Starts at midnight.
00:57:36.620 Starts at midnight.
00:57:38.580 Is it daylight or dark at midnight?
00:57:41.320 Dark.
00:57:41.760 It's dark.
00:57:42.900 So if a new day and new beginning starts in the dark, when you're in your darkest moment,
00:57:49.300 when you're sitting in the back of the, when you're sitting in the back of the store,
00:57:52.240 all right, when you're, whatever you're, whatever you're dealing with, that's where your new
00:58:00.580 beginning is starting.
00:58:01.980 That in the dark, that's where all your new beginnings start.
00:58:06.360 If a new day starts there, that's where your new beginnings start.
00:58:09.720 But you don't realize that until so many, how many years later?
00:58:14.440 Well, you've, you got to stop fucking feeling sorry for yourself.
00:58:17.500 Yeah.
00:58:17.940 You got to stop saying, oh, you know, I didn't, I, it wasn't, life wasn't fair to me.
00:58:22.980 Oh, these circumstances aren't fair.
00:58:24.940 Oh, other people have it easier.
00:58:26.060 So fucking what if they have it easier?
00:58:27.720 So that you're going to waste your whole fucking life because some other motherfucker
00:58:30.740 had it easier than you.
00:58:31.780 I didn't make any fucking sense.
00:58:33.800 Some, at some point you got to stop telling people about your hopes and dreams and you
00:58:38.300 got to start telling them about your decisions and actions.
00:58:41.540 But you got to show them.
00:58:43.020 Yeah, man.
00:58:43.640 You got it.
00:58:44.080 That's it.
00:58:44.880 There you go.
00:58:45.840 I think, I think most people could do themselves a massive service by just being completely
00:58:54.380 honest with the amount of effort they're giving.
00:58:57.040 No one wants to have an honest conversation with themselves.
00:58:59.560 They, they, they don't, they want you to be.
00:59:01.420 They, they always tell you, you know, winning requires honesty.
00:59:05.920 Winning requires honesty.
00:59:07.280 It requires you to look in that mirror and that when that mirror is looking back at you,
00:59:11.260 it requires you to see things that you're not willing to see because people look in
00:59:15.660 the mirror.
00:59:16.100 Boy, I tell you, you get some different lighting up in those things, boy, you, you can, you
00:59:20.180 can change the way you look completely.
00:59:21.620 I was in a hotel the, uh, I was in the bathroom.
00:59:24.540 I was like, damn, I look good.
00:59:26.020 Take a picture.
00:59:26.560 Yeah.
00:59:27.140 I did not take a, I did not take a picture, but I was like.
00:59:31.420 But you know, it's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of illusions in there that, that, that
00:59:38.340 we're not, we're not, that we're not aware of that, that we, that we, that we fall, we
00:59:43.220 fall, we fall into.
00:59:44.600 But it's, it's, it's keeping that mindset.
00:59:48.520 It's understanding, it's understanding that focus.
00:59:51.420 It's understanding what, what, what it's going to take.
00:59:55.180 And then once you understanding actually going to do it and winning requires you, everyone
01:00:02.140 wants to add stuff at Andy, how'd you get in physically and mentally in the best condition
01:00:11.260 you were ever in, and you're going to take that to another level.
01:00:14.460 It wasn't by adding things.
01:00:16.040 It was by deleting things.
01:00:17.680 It was by deleting the unessentials.
01:00:20.080 And that's what you're doing now.
01:00:21.360 The reason you enjoy so much more of the journey and you, you can see here and you, this different
01:00:27.840 personality.
01:00:28.440 Hell, you want to, you went, when was the last time you went on a vacation before this
01:00:31.640 one?
01:00:32.080 10 and a half years.
01:00:33.240 10 and a half years.
01:00:34.300 Yeah.
01:00:34.620 Did you even know what to do on this vacation?
01:00:36.160 No, it was weird.
01:00:37.280 He called me.
01:00:38.220 Yeah, it was weird.
01:00:38.660 I almost came home.
01:00:39.460 So Sal, I talked to Sal on probably what, Wednesday?
01:00:43.120 I got there on Monday and I, I almost came home because it was very uncomfortable.
01:00:47.440 Yeah.
01:00:47.900 Yeah.
01:00:48.340 I have to, next time I have to go for like, probably like two full weeks, um, to eat.
01:00:54.500 Cause it wasn't like I was gone.
01:00:56.120 It was very, it was, but it wasn't, you know what I'm saying?
01:00:58.840 It was weird.
01:00:59.900 And that's crazy for, for him, his new win was the complete is what everybody's
01:01:09.460 been doing their whole life.
01:01:13.680 Chilling, relaxing, trying to relax.
01:01:17.300 You're like, I had years and years.
01:01:20.680 Oh bro.
01:01:21.300 I was having major, like major, like, I mean, you could fucking ask Emily about it.
01:01:25.460 Like the whole time it was, it was not a, uh, it was not a mentally comfortable thing
01:01:31.280 for me to do at all.
01:01:32.460 Yeah.
01:01:33.020 Like at all.
01:01:33.660 Like maybe the last day I, I, and I think the reason I felt better was because I knew
01:01:38.720 I was going home and it wasn't that I didn't enjoy the trip.
01:01:42.460 Like it was fucking beautiful.
01:01:43.760 That food was great.
01:01:44.660 Everybody was cool.
01:01:45.880 You know, it was just, I'm well, it's uncomfortable.
01:01:50.180 It was very uncomfortable.
01:01:51.080 Very uncomfortable.
01:01:51.640 Very.
01:01:51.880 Yeah.
01:01:52.740 Like, and if it made me realize it did make me, and that's where the eyeopening part of
01:01:57.920 it was for me was like, I realized like, bro, you need to like do a couple of things.
01:02:02.460 You know what I'm saying?
01:02:03.140 Cause like, you know, I, like, you know, with Kobe, right?
01:02:07.920 Like I, I look at Kobe and I'm like, fuck dude, this, here's a dude when he passed away
01:02:13.040 or roughly the exact same age who worked his whole life, worked hard his whole life.
01:02:18.460 And I know, I know what he was telling him and you, you, you know, you, you, you probably
01:02:22.920 really know this, but I already know in his head, he was probably telling himself, all
01:02:27.360 right, now I did all this.
01:02:28.420 Now I'm going to, I'm going to start balancing out the other way.
01:02:31.060 Yeah.
01:02:31.260 And he never got the chance.
01:02:33.000 Never, never got, never got the full chance.
01:02:34.540 It was funny.
01:02:35.460 That was an eyeopening thing for me.
01:02:36.940 Yeah.
01:02:37.440 So Sherry said, Sherry said, Hey, look at, uh, look at Andy's post.
01:02:42.400 Looked at Andy's post.
01:02:43.360 She goes, he's on vacation.
01:02:44.240 I said, get the fuck out of here.
01:02:45.740 He's not on vacation.
01:02:47.060 Get the fuck out of here.
01:02:48.180 I said, no way.
01:02:49.620 She goes, no, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's on vacation.
01:02:52.940 I looked at it.
01:02:53.540 You have no idea how proud I was of you that day.
01:02:58.060 And I wasn't going to call you or text you because I was like, no, this is not the time.
01:03:01.880 Not the time.
01:03:02.460 I said, when I get a chance to see him, I'm going to say, Andy, you have no idea in your
01:03:06.720 overall growth of a human, as a person, as a role model, as an example, how of a major
01:03:16.480 step that this, this was, this was as uncomfortable as it was, as comfortable as it was, uncomfortable.
01:03:26.880 Don't be too proud.
01:03:28.480 Huge.
01:03:29.000 No, you, I almost came back, but you did, but you, but you did, you did.
01:03:34.380 All right.
01:03:35.040 When people go through live hard, you know, in 75 days, you know, you almost may have
01:03:43.740 picked up a slice of pizza.
01:03:45.200 You may have almost picked up alcohol.
01:03:48.200 You have almost may have not done the second workout, but you did.
01:03:53.880 Yeah.
01:03:54.220 I appreciate it, man.
01:03:55.900 It was definitely super weird.
01:03:57.620 Yeah.
01:03:58.300 You know, I, I, I'm going to start, I made a new rule where at least once a quarter, I'm
01:04:02.700 going to go somewhere.
01:04:03.360 At this point in my life, that's realistic for me.
01:04:06.920 Yeah.
01:04:07.400 You know, I appreciate that, man.
01:04:10.620 No, it's, it's a truth.
01:04:11.700 Listen, you know, listen, we're, we're in a room with there's minimal BS.
01:04:16.700 Yeah.
01:04:17.340 If, if, if none at all, you know, with how many times do I call you all the time and
01:04:23.200 I see DJ sneaking, sneaking out of here, or I'm just about to talk about him.
01:04:27.220 All right.
01:04:28.060 When I talk about him when he's not here, we all do.
01:04:32.140 When, when, when I, how, how often do I call, call or text you to make sure you're on his
01:04:37.840 ass?
01:04:38.280 Yeah.
01:04:38.700 Enough to get him on, to, to get him down 70 pounds, 70 pounds.
01:04:42.180 Last time I checked, it was 50.
01:04:43.620 Yeah.
01:04:44.220 Yeah.
01:04:44.400 Yeah.
01:04:44.660 He's down about 70 pounds since we started with him.
01:04:46.720 Yeah.
01:04:47.480 So.
01:04:48.040 And here it is.
01:04:48.840 And I'm all, I know, because you know why I said, he is a reflection of your standards.
01:04:55.100 Yeah.
01:04:55.200 I told him exactly what you said.
01:04:56.560 Yeah.
01:04:56.860 Like you text me that you, you, you, I fucking went and showed him a text and said, Hey, look,
01:05:01.740 dude, you gotta get your shit together.
01:05:03.720 Yeah.
01:05:04.080 You got to.
01:05:04.680 Yeah.
01:05:04.880 Next day he was on it.
01:05:06.100 He lost another 30 pounds right after that.
01:05:07.820 That's, that's, that's crushing it now.
01:05:09.960 You know, that, that's what, that's what it is.
01:05:11.880 So what he did was he understood, he thought he raised his level of winning.
01:05:17.240 He raised his level of winning.
01:05:20.140 And the problem, a lot of the issues that we have is your level of winning is so much
01:05:26.800 higher than everybody else's.
01:05:28.360 My level of winning, Sal's level, Sal's levels of winning.
01:05:32.560 People automatically say those things are not obtainable.
01:05:38.700 We were all in the same spot at some point.
01:05:42.040 We were all in the spot at the same, at the same point.
01:05:44.840 But our, for us to get that, to get that high, that only winning can give us, they, it's
01:05:56.240 a different level of a win, but it wasn't at some point it was here.
01:05:59.860 And then we always start back with a new win at the base level.
01:06:04.580 Your vacation is an example.
01:06:05.900 I want to give people that there's no superheroes in here.
01:06:09.980 Hey, this isn't a DC or Marvel, Marvel movie.
01:06:14.320 All right.
01:06:15.360 We live in the real life.
01:06:18.560 We live in the real world.
01:06:19.760 All right.
01:06:20.740 Winning is always what winning is watching you.
01:06:22.940 It's knowing if you're telling the truth, it's no, if you, if you're, if you're lying, it does.
01:06:28.440 And all winning wants to do is to find somebody else.
01:06:30.940 Winning's job is to, it's one and only job is not to let you win.
01:06:35.700 But it's not, it's not, and I said, man, it's easy.
01:06:40.600 It's not supposed, it's not supposed to be, it's not supposed to be easy.
01:06:44.800 You're going to have to deal with, you're going to have to deal that when you start, when it
01:06:49.160 hit, and I like to use the, you know, the parallel now of live hard and winning.
01:06:55.420 All right.
01:06:58.120 And the reason you call it a mental toughness program, because what happens is before you
01:07:06.700 can start in to live hard and start to win, before you can start, before you get in that
01:07:13.160 race and start chasing what's on the other end, you better deal with what's chasing you
01:07:20.780 first.
01:07:21.220 Winning wants you to require and deal with what's chasing you first, because you're running
01:07:27.520 from something that you need to deal with and you need to stop, have a conversation with
01:07:35.400 that thing that's chasing you.
01:07:36.780 And it may have been chasing you for years.
01:07:39.860 You need to let that thing catch you.
01:07:41.800 You need to own it.
01:07:43.000 You need to have a conversation.
01:07:44.300 You need to have a conversation with it.
01:07:46.040 You need to understand that it's a part of you.
01:07:48.840 It's a part of your life.
01:07:49.880 It's a part of your greatness.
01:07:51.000 It's a part of who you need to, who you need to be with and take that part with you
01:07:57.000 in the journey.
01:07:59.060 Well, now you're talking about dark side.
01:08:00.840 All right.
01:08:01.440 You have to take it in the journey.
01:08:04.600 That's, that's a whole nother podcast.
01:08:06.520 Yeah.
01:08:07.340 You take that, you will end up on the other side of winning every single time.
01:08:13.920 You will end up with a success of live hard every single time.
01:08:19.700 How much of your, how much do you think that people who choose not to go on the journey,
01:08:30.980 who choose not to fucking continue to win?
01:08:33.620 How many of those people do you think choose to not go as the way that they could go because
01:08:43.740 of their dark side and what they're afraid of they have done in the past or who they are
01:08:50.320 or the shit that people are going to find out about them or all the shit.
01:08:53.540 Like how many of the players do you think that keeps on the fucking bench?
01:08:55.920 90% of them.
01:08:59.100 I think it does too, dude.
01:09:00.460 90% of them.
01:09:01.920 I think people have, I think society has gotten so fucking like virtue signal washed and, and
01:09:08.920 like the appearance because of social media has to be so perfect and squeaky clean that
01:09:14.940 every single person out there, like not every single, there's people that don't give a fuck.
01:09:19.040 They're like, yeah, I'm fucking who the fuck I am.
01:09:21.100 I'm one of those people.
01:09:23.120 But most people aren't like that.
01:09:24.560 Most people know that they've done some shit in the past, or they have a little secret
01:09:29.220 here or there, and they're afraid that if they go and people know them, that they're
01:09:33.380 going to find out and their life's going to be ruined, bro.
01:09:35.220 Let me tell you something.
01:09:36.420 Your life's going to be ruined.
01:09:37.480 If you don't fucking go, your life's going to be ruined.
01:09:39.920 If you don't fucking try.
01:09:40.800 Yep.
01:09:41.400 Okay.
01:09:42.420 And every single person that you look at out there, who's successful, that you admire,
01:09:46.920 that you think like, fuck dude, that would be a cool life to have.
01:09:49.960 I'm not talking about whoever that might be.
01:09:52.440 I promise you, whatever dark side secrets that you have about yourself, they're very
01:09:59.260 parallel in those people.
01:10:01.720 100%.
01:10:02.120 100%.
01:10:03.100 Listen.
01:10:03.600 So you can't let those things and those insecurities keep you on the bench, right?
01:10:10.520 Yeah.
01:10:10.880 You have to let those things, like what Tim's saying is, bro, you have to accept yourself
01:10:15.060 and who you are.
01:10:15.760 That doesn't mean be a piece of shit, but that means to understand that you're a human
01:10:20.460 being and that you have these things about you and those things will actually fuel you
01:10:25.760 if you accept them about yourself.
01:10:27.860 And the reason they fuel you is because it's like removing a massive weight.
01:10:31.200 It's like you're carrying this fucking weight.
01:10:33.620 Uh, you know, I, I have, I have some friends.
01:10:36.740 Some of my favorite people, dude, are people who have really like gone through some shit.
01:10:40.340 And I have a couple of close friends who, uh, have gone to prison before.
01:10:45.780 And so they understand, you know, going through hard shit.
01:10:53.460 And, and, and, and, and I, I've had to talk to both of these people that I'm thinking about,
01:10:57.920 about like them understanding that that should be a lesson that they serve up to other people
01:11:05.800 about how to not end up there instead of something to hide and be afraid of and something to be ashamed
01:11:14.600 of and carry around.
01:11:16.060 Like you have to allow these things to be and figure out how they're going to serve you
01:11:21.960 and leverage that into your future path.
01:11:24.520 And so many people, because we have this, um, society that pretends to be perfect or pretends
01:11:31.280 to be polished when in reality, everybody's got bullshit below the surface, everybody,
01:11:36.720 every fucking one of them, dude, everybody.
01:11:38.960 And they all lie about it.
01:11:40.240 They all lie.
01:11:41.360 It makes, it makes regular people with, with amazing potential and amazing, uh, potential
01:11:47.880 for skills and solving problems.
01:11:50.000 This is why I hate cancel culture so much.
01:11:52.200 I think it's fucking super damaging because how many people are afraid to get in the fucking
01:11:58.160 game and contribute what they could contribute because they've got a story of some sort.
01:12:03.920 And I think it's a lot.
01:12:05.220 I think there's a lot of things in humanity that are suppressed that, that could be out
01:12:11.100 there in the world serving good.
01:12:12.500 If people would just like realize like, Hey, uh, of course you have some secrets or you have
01:12:18.880 some things you're not proud of.
01:12:20.040 That's called being a human being.
01:12:22.540 100%.
01:12:22.980 And what I do, listen, where people go, when you open up, when you get up and I'm going
01:12:30.520 back to, back to the morning routine about putting on, putting on your clothes, you choose
01:12:35.920 your clothes, right?
01:12:38.200 You choose your clothes.
01:12:39.120 What are you going to wear on the morning?
01:12:40.400 Every single morning while you're choosing your clothes, your, your choice after that should
01:12:44.460 be your thoughts.
01:12:45.200 You get to choose your thoughts.
01:12:46.780 You get to choose your thoughts every single, every single, every single morning.
01:12:50.440 Not nobody else.
01:12:51.740 You get to choose, you get to choose your thoughts.
01:12:53.800 Now, when you get other people start choosing your thoughts, now you're in a complete, now
01:13:00.400 you're in a completely different race.
01:13:02.120 And then after you do that, when you, everybody in here, I'm assuming you keep your clothes
01:13:07.660 in a closet, right?
01:13:10.180 All right.
01:13:11.680 So where do people always want to put their skeletons in a closet?
01:13:14.620 So guess what?
01:13:15.820 You open up that closet and you get to choose your clothes.
01:13:18.620 You get to choose your thoughts.
01:13:19.980 Your skeletons are sitting right there looking at you.
01:13:22.460 Put them motherfuckers on too.
01:13:24.120 There you go.
01:13:25.160 Thank you.
01:13:26.420 Thank you.
01:13:27.560 Thank you.
01:13:28.240 That's it right there.
01:13:29.540 That's it right there because not a single individual in this room right now, if you want
01:13:33.380 to win, if I took your skeletal system away, what would happen?
01:13:38.420 You would die.
01:13:39.320 You couldn't walk.
01:13:40.060 You couldn't move.
01:13:41.140 You couldn't move.
01:13:41.900 All right.
01:13:43.580 Your skeletons are the ones that, man, in the journey, in that journey to those wins
01:13:49.220 along the way, man, those are your buddies.
01:13:52.520 Those are your partners.
01:13:53.760 Those are your allies.
01:13:55.000 They understand.
01:13:55.860 They're the ones that you can have, they're the ones that can have conversations with.
01:13:59.340 They're the individuals I sit down with and open up a bottle of tequila and have a conversation,
01:14:07.180 have a conversation with.
01:14:08.240 Because they know me better than anybody else and they're nonjudgmental.
01:14:11.800 They are nonjudgmental.
01:14:13.040 They're like, yeah, you remember that?
01:14:14.180 Yeah, we were there fucking with you when you did that.
01:14:17.460 But I mean, think about that too, though.
01:14:19.180 You know, it's your superpower.
01:14:21.320 Yes.
01:14:21.740 It's not just your friend, you know?
01:14:23.380 And I, I mean, for, for me, like when what I, it's consequently, the thing I'm most insecure
01:14:27.960 about is my physicality, my body, which is kind of funny, right?
01:14:31.240 We're in the physical fitness game.
01:14:32.540 But when I realized that my insecurity was also my story and also my strength to be able
01:14:39.040 to communicate to other individuals, it became my superpower because I tell people all the
01:14:42.900 time, I speak fat, man.
01:14:43.700 I know what it's like.
01:14:44.700 I can, I can look through that screen.
01:14:46.200 Bro, not only that, you battle it every single day.
01:14:48.380 Every day.
01:14:48.820 It's my addiction.
01:14:49.780 We all do.
01:14:50.700 Yeah.
01:14:50.880 We all.
01:14:51.500 But you got to learn to embrace it.
01:14:52.980 Maybe you don't.
01:14:55.180 But that's stacked.
01:14:56.700 But I mean, you have to learn to embrace that because there's a story behind that.
01:14:59.960 Well, that will encourage and inspire and help other people through that journey.
01:15:02.620 And I think when you can learn to embody your struggle as a part of your success, it becomes
01:15:08.280 your superpower.
01:15:09.180 It's a, it's a language that nobody else speaks except the people that struggle with the same
01:15:13.280 thing that you do, which allows you to speak to them, you know?
01:15:16.180 And that's the part, like you're, you're holding all this shit back, but the truth of the
01:15:19.060 matter is that's where all the success fucking lies.
01:15:20.820 Cause it's your cheat code.
01:15:21.760 So one thing I understand better than anything, bro, not only that.
01:15:25.720 Let them fucking talk, bro.
01:15:27.700 It's free traffic.
01:15:29.000 Let them say what the fuck they're going to say, bro.
01:15:31.600 Drive you right up the fucking charts.
01:15:33.700 I know a thing or two.
01:15:36.200 I've seen a thing or two.
01:15:37.180 No, for real though.
01:15:37.800 There are people who'd be like, oh, you know, how do you guys help people lose weight?
01:15:40.160 You guys are fat.
01:15:41.260 That's actually the trick.
01:15:42.400 Right.
01:15:43.360 I fucking understand it.
01:15:44.820 Do you think a lot of it is also people giving them the, giving themselves, I guess,
01:15:49.520 the permission.
01:15:50.180 Like you got to understand like that, like that is who you were.
01:15:52.540 That's not who you are anymore.
01:15:53.780 Right.
01:15:54.120 Like those skeletons in your closet, like,
01:15:55.720 that's no longer you.
01:15:57.060 I think that's a fucking super important point because people are going to hear it.
01:16:01.960 So it's a part of you.
01:16:03.700 I think that's like, there's a steps.
01:16:06.200 Is that the first step?
01:16:07.700 Right.
01:16:07.820 It's also important to recognize that those things that you are not proud of are also the
01:16:14.440 things that have gotten you to a point where you recognize that you're not proud of those
01:16:19.280 things.
01:16:19.540 So you don't behave that way anymore.
01:16:21.100 Of course, they're valuable to you.
01:16:22.400 Right.
01:16:22.900 Right.
01:16:23.380 Right.
01:16:24.380 But they also serve in a different way.
01:16:26.440 And nobody really talks about this.
01:16:28.640 They also remind you what you're capable of doing and why you should be careful and why
01:16:33.800 you should work to move to be better consistently.
01:16:36.940 Because if you were capable then, you're likely capable now if you change your behavior and
01:16:42.220 the thought process.
01:16:43.620 Okay.
01:16:43.900 Because like people like to tell me, right?
01:16:46.800 Like, they like to say, like, you know, you guys, most of you guys have seen the pictures
01:16:51.280 of when I was big and fat as fuck and when I'm in shape.
01:16:54.460 And, uh, I see the whole video you posted.
01:16:58.080 It wasn't just a, just a thing you getting out of, getting out of bed, rolling out, sitting
01:17:01.880 at that, sitting at the edge of the bed and everything.
01:17:04.700 Yeah.
01:17:04.920 I mean, dude, that's real shit though.
01:17:06.500 That is 100% real.
01:17:07.940 People, people see that.
01:17:09.740 Fuck.
01:17:10.080 I forgot where I was going.
01:17:10.800 What was the point I was making?
01:17:12.920 New transition.
01:17:13.840 I mean, yeah.
01:17:16.060 Oh, yeah.
01:17:17.020 Okay.
01:17:18.260 People see that and they don't like, they like to say to me, they like to say, well, bro,
01:17:23.000 that version of you is dead.
01:17:24.560 Shit.
01:17:25.060 The fuck it is.
01:17:26.500 The fuck it is, bro.
01:17:28.200 You want to see motherfucker put on some hundred pounds where I do it faster than anybody.
01:17:32.000 Yeah.
01:17:32.260 You know what I'm saying?
01:17:33.180 And like, dude, that's, that's the thing that you got to remember when you look at the
01:17:38.100 shit that you've done in the past that you're not proud of, that makes you feel guilty
01:17:41.080 and shameful.
01:17:41.980 You have to accept, okay, that these have served you, right?
01:17:45.720 We talked about this on the episode we did with Lewis.
01:17:47.620 Yeah.
01:17:47.980 Um, where you have to accept that these things, you need to forgive yourself for these things
01:17:54.920 and accept that this is what's got you on a new course of behavior.
01:17:57.900 But you also need to remember that you could very easily be that again, if you don't fucking
01:18:03.920 watch yourself or, you know what I'm saying?
01:18:05.820 Yeah.
01:18:06.140 So like they serve a number of different ways.
01:18:08.140 They also serve in ways that like people don't even talk about.
01:18:11.860 Like disrespect is an amazing motivator, bro.
01:18:15.820 Like when you can figure out, when you can figure out, um, you know, this is, this is
01:18:22.040 one of the most amazing motivators, actually, when you can figure out how you've disrespected
01:18:26.300 yourself, you want to, you want to fucking, you want to get on a quick path to fucking
01:18:30.820 be in real grid and a lot of shit in your life, figure out all the ways you've been
01:18:34.500 disrespecting yourself and get pissed about it.
01:18:36.560 Yeah.
01:18:36.820 And then you can laugh at it.
01:18:38.140 Yeah.
01:18:38.560 You can laugh.
01:18:38.920 You know, it's just, you get, obviously you get way many more comments on your social
01:18:46.040 media than I, no, I don't post any.
01:18:47.740 Okay.
01:18:48.100 So you get more than me.
01:18:49.060 All right.
01:18:49.480 Yeah.
01:18:50.040 Well, I'm talking about all your, all your, uh, out of volume media.
01:18:54.000 I get stuff, different people.
01:18:56.660 I just laugh at it.
01:18:57.860 I think it's funny.
01:18:58.620 I'm like, somebody actually took the time out of their day to say something negative about
01:19:05.220 something they, I read your comments and I think your comments that you get are negative
01:19:10.160 or funny as fuck too.
01:19:11.340 Yeah.
01:19:11.740 Because, because it's people like you're there.
01:19:14.640 It's usually on the relentless book that people make comments about because it's so
01:19:19.280 far above their level of fucking understanding what winning is about that they can't comprehend
01:19:24.760 any of it.
01:19:25.640 Yeah.
01:19:26.020 Like, and I'm like, I read a couple of negative comments one time on your shit and I'm like,
01:19:30.460 holy shit, people like this actually exist.
01:19:32.660 Yeah.
01:19:33.020 Like they, like, but we talked about this today.
01:19:35.540 I was talking about, you know, not everybody was raised with a dad like we had, right?
01:19:40.480 This is the power of information that, you know, and so we, you mean a dad that made us
01:19:43.800 look like Oompa Loompas?
01:19:45.020 Yeah.
01:19:45.420 I mean, Hey, took us to Sam's, taught us some values and along the way we were listening
01:19:48.940 to Zig Ziglar, but I mean, there's a lot of truth to it, you know, that open your mindset
01:19:53.340 to winning thing, you know, the, the viewpoint, the perspective, you know, saying that you
01:19:58.800 can do all these things in life that you want, as long as you're willing to work for
01:20:02.260 him.
01:20:03.260 If you can dream it, you can do it, but you're gonna have to work for it.
01:20:04.500 Like Tim was giving an example today.
01:20:05.980 He hits his head when negative thoughts come in, thought of dad, you know, I will literally
01:20:09.720 stop.
01:20:10.360 I literally like, I will, if I'm walking and somebody's behind me, you're going to bump
01:20:14.300 into me because if I have something to come, I will literally stop him and keep, push the
01:20:19.640 negative thought out of your head, push it in.
01:20:21.240 And you know, that relentless attitude, that mindset, that's, that's foreign to some people.
01:20:25.460 You know, if you have two parents who have never won and don't aspire to win and couldn't
01:20:29.820 care about winning, it's probably a foreign fucking language for that person to try to
01:20:33.920 understand that.
01:20:34.620 Right.
01:20:34.860 So it's hard, you know, to digest that somebody can't, how do you not understand the simple
01:20:40.480 equation of winning?
01:20:41.680 No, I get it.
01:20:42.780 Yeah.
01:20:43.060 Yeah.
01:20:43.280 But what I'm, I totally get that.
01:20:45.180 I mean, I understand why people don't understand it, but like the level at which some people
01:20:49.560 don't understand it is astounding.
01:20:52.200 Yeah.
01:20:52.500 You want, listen, like I'm far away from that fucking line of thinking.
01:20:55.700 Yeah.
01:20:56.080 And so it's just like, you know, no, I could understand why when you look at it, you would
01:20:59.660 laugh.
01:20:59.960 I just, I just, I just laugh, you know, and I tell them if you don't, if you had a hard
01:21:04.940 time understanding relentless, you have no shot at winning.
01:21:09.100 Yeah.
01:21:09.620 You have no shot at understanding winning.
01:21:11.300 It's, it is such a higher, it's just a higher level thought process that you have, that you
01:21:16.020 are, you, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not real though, dude, real shit.
01:21:19.060 Like I, cause I, I just read and you know this, I just read relentless and winning back to
01:21:27.060 back at, so I, I was on 75 hard.
01:21:29.880 I started, uh, at the end of November, I got 51 days in, uh, and I got a, I got a blood
01:21:35.820 infection that really fucked me up and it took me like five weeks to get over.
01:21:40.300 Um, and the first post was, I can no longer continue.
01:21:46.400 I remember, I remember that post.
01:21:48.060 I remember your post said, listen, I can, I can no longer continue.
01:21:51.780 When I start back, it'll be fucking day one.
01:21:53.780 Yeah, that's that, but there, there, there was nothing I could do about it, but no, but
01:21:57.880 I'm just saying, you're saying that, Hey, even shit even happens to me.
01:22:02.100 Oh yeah.
01:22:02.900 All right.
01:22:03.180 Even though I was on, that wasn't a fucking hangnail.
01:22:05.440 Yeah.
01:22:05.780 It wasn't, I was fucking sore.
01:22:07.080 Right.
01:22:07.580 I was like, I was on a journey to this win that I've, that I've, this destination that
01:22:12.440 I've reached over and over again.
01:22:15.900 It didn't go the way I wanted.
01:22:17.140 Yeah.
01:22:17.500 Sometimes that happens.
01:22:18.460 Part of the win is a loss.
01:22:19.400 That's reality.
01:22:19.960 Uh, I read your books back to back at the beginning of that round.
01:22:25.000 So, so basically in December, the end of November, most of December, I was reading both the books
01:22:33.180 and what I can tell, cause I've read relentless, I think probably four, four or five times front
01:22:40.020 to front to back.
01:22:41.440 And I've only read winning once front to back.
01:22:43.680 I read parts of it, but I hadn't read it front to back.
01:22:46.340 And I read them both back to back.
01:22:49.480 And I can tell you, and this is what's great about the, the both, this is both the books
01:22:56.200 that you've written.
01:22:57.920 What's great about them is that we're, when you're at a different point on the journey,
01:23:02.760 it will, they will mean different things to you.
01:23:04.580 Yes.
01:23:05.040 And so like when I read that book for the first time, way back when I first met you,
01:23:09.980 I don't remember what, what year that was, but like that, it meant something to me.
01:23:15.740 Right.
01:23:16.000 Okay.
01:23:16.220 What I realized was, if you remember, I think I told you, I realized what it, what I got
01:23:22.200 out of it the first time was that I wasn't alone because I felt fucking crazy.
01:23:26.360 Like I felt like I was one of the only, I felt, cause dude, everybody, when you're, when
01:23:31.400 you're, when you're a highly competitive, highly driven person, bro, everybody around
01:23:34.860 you tells you that it's wrong.
01:23:36.440 Everybody around you tells you that you're obsessed.
01:23:38.900 Everybody tells you to have balance.
01:23:40.580 Everybody tells you to relax.
01:23:42.300 Everybody tells you to quit taking shit.
01:23:43.720 Quit so serious, quit caring so much.
01:23:45.740 Okay.
01:23:46.140 And all that advice is wrong, by the way, just so you know, it's very, very fucking wrong.
01:23:50.980 But I was at a point in my life where I was 10 plus years into my, into retail.
01:23:56.020 We had just started first form when I read relentless and what it taught me because I
01:24:01.100 was fucking in a bad place mentally because I'm relentlessly being told all of the things
01:24:07.180 I just said by everybody I know they're like, bro, you're fucking crazy.
01:24:10.860 And so that after a while, when every single person around you is saying that there's something
01:24:16.620 fucked up about you, guess what happens?
01:24:18.620 You start to fucking believe it.
01:24:20.380 And so like, I picked up this book.
01:24:23.060 I can't even remember how I heard of it.
01:24:25.320 Oh, Ben Newman.
01:24:26.220 Ben Newman is the one that put me on it.
01:24:27.980 And, and, and, uh, I read the book relentless and I was like, fuck dude.
01:24:33.260 Okay.
01:24:33.660 There's a whole bunch of people out here like this that are, that are like this.
01:24:37.880 And, and, but then when I read, you know, I've read it a number of times across the journey
01:24:41.700 and now what it reminds me of is different than what it taught me the first time.
01:24:47.160 Now it makes me see things.
01:24:49.260 It's almost like a, like where I'm at now versus then, which is a drastic difference in,
01:24:54.860 you know, the 10 years, I guess, or so since I first read it to now.
01:25:00.540 But now what I remember, it's almost like a checklist now.
01:25:03.580 It's almost like, like I'm reading it and I'm like, yes, I'm, I'm seeing it that way.
01:25:07.500 This is, this is, this validates what I feel over here.
01:25:10.220 This is, this is what I've experienced.
01:25:12.340 So it's like, it's, you understand what I'm saying?
01:25:15.400 I understand.
01:25:15.840 Like what I think is cool because like most books don't have that value, um, where they
01:25:22.540 can totally teach you completely different things depending on where you are.
01:25:25.500 You know, if you read a lot of books, you know, like there's certain books, right?
01:25:30.580 Marketing that I've read consistently, right?
01:25:33.520 Like, uh, uh, the purple cow by Seth Godin.
01:25:36.580 I've probably read that book five or six times over the course of the last, uh,
01:25:40.220 you know, it's a great book, but when I read it, it's still the same book and Seth
01:25:46.660 Godin's brilliant, but when, and this is no disrespect to him, I think he's one of
01:25:50.340 the most brilliant fucking writers ever.
01:25:51.940 But when I read it, it's, it's still a marketing book and it's still like just reminding me
01:25:58.420 of the shit that I already know.
01:25:59.780 Right.
01:26:00.620 And what I love about your books, dude, is that they truly do mean different things at
01:26:05.840 different points.
01:26:06.720 And, and I think it's important.
01:26:08.440 I recommend that if you're starting 75 hard, I think starting with relentless and winning
01:26:14.660 back to back is a great place to start with your reading.
01:26:18.720 Um, the first time I read relentless, it was a little bit confusing cause I didn't, I could
01:26:23.780 see why people don't, some people don't connect with it because it's, it's, you have to think
01:26:29.220 when you're reading it, you have to like think and people aren't used to thinking right now.
01:26:33.340 But exactly, you know what we used to get people all the time, the, the negative comments
01:26:37.180 about the book, you didn't tell me what to do.
01:26:39.480 That's exactly.
01:26:41.380 Yes.
01:26:41.940 You, what did you say?
01:26:42.840 You had to think.
01:26:43.840 Yes, exactly.
01:26:45.140 And it's self, it's self-reflective book.
01:26:47.460 And I think, I really think bro, like, and I mean this shit, I think I don't, I mean,
01:26:52.260 I've read fuck, I don't know, thousands of books in my life.
01:26:55.680 I'm a big reader.
01:26:58.200 I, I, I think your books will go down in history as two of the most important books.
01:27:03.340 It's for people truly understanding not only the process of winning, but themselves on
01:27:10.160 the process of winning.
01:27:11.760 Does that make sense?
01:27:12.760 That makes, thank you.
01:27:13.660 Thank you.
01:27:14.460 It's a big deal, dude.
01:27:15.220 It means, it means, it means a lot.
01:27:16.940 It's a big deal.
01:27:17.640 I've never read anything like them.
01:27:19.080 Yeah.
01:27:19.380 And that's, that's not, you know, I've read a lot of good books, bro, but like, and I
01:27:24.000 read the good books.
01:27:25.000 I read over and over again because I know there's one or two, because dude, you know, winners
01:27:29.480 value information differently.
01:27:31.400 When I, when I, when I read a book, I'm not reading it for the book.
01:27:35.760 I'm reading it for that one paragraph or that one sentence that out of the, you know, 250,
01:27:44.620 300 pages that, you know, I'm going to read, I'm going to get one thing out of it.
01:27:49.700 That's how I value the information.
01:27:51.140 You know, people, people who win from what my experience champion people, these people
01:27:58.020 look at information and value it differently than what people do who don't win, you know,
01:28:03.040 like, like people, people who don't win, we'll read a whole book and they'll say, well,
01:28:07.160 that book sucked.
01:28:08.140 Well, bro, there's, there's really not a book on this fucking planet that you can't read
01:28:12.140 and pull one thing out.
01:28:13.780 True.
01:28:14.180 You know, and, and, and what I think makes your books unique and what I value about them
01:28:18.800 the most is that literally every part of the book, if you, if you actually use your brain
01:28:26.040 and think like you're supposed to, will, will mean real shit to you.
01:28:32.000 Yeah.
01:28:32.400 You know what I'm saying?
01:28:32.980 And it will mean real shit in a different way every single time.
01:28:35.440 So I'm, you know, obviously a huge fan, but.
01:28:38.660 I appreciate it.
01:28:39.220 Thank you so much.
01:28:40.000 You know, here with, with shit, man.
01:28:42.340 Yeah.
01:28:42.580 With relentless, relentless, it makes you form a partnership with your decisions and
01:28:49.180 your commitments.
01:28:50.840 Winning makes you form a partnership with your actions and your success.
01:28:55.740 And you need all four, and you need all four, you need, you need all four.
01:29:00.740 DJ, before when we were out, when you stepped out, uh, whatever you, whatever you, I was.
01:29:05.580 Yeah.
01:29:05.900 You also flicked me off before we even started.
01:29:08.280 Yeah.
01:29:08.620 That was the other podcast.
01:29:09.900 Right.
01:29:12.340 All right.
01:29:12.700 It's a win for me.
01:29:14.260 That's actually an honor.
01:29:15.220 That's what I'm saying.
01:29:16.200 I'm a pale old compliment.
01:29:17.480 He told me how much weight you've done.
01:29:19.600 Cause I've been on your ass now.
01:29:21.280 I've been like, listen, dude, this is like, he's a reflect.
01:29:24.280 He saw it.
01:29:24.680 He told me, he showed you the text.
01:29:25.980 Oh yeah.
01:29:26.360 I'm like, what the fuck's going on here?
01:29:27.580 Yeah.
01:29:28.560 I said, I, you know, I, I see one individual getting the results and I see the other one
01:29:32.820 a little dragging behind.
01:29:34.560 Megan.
01:29:34.960 But he's told me where you, he's told me where you, where you, now your job, job,
01:29:38.120 not finished now.
01:29:39.240 Long way to go.
01:29:39.700 You still got a long, you still got a long way to go.
01:29:41.900 All right.
01:29:43.020 And we'll stay on, you know, I'll please do those great people in your life.
01:29:47.120 We'll hold you accountable.
01:29:47.720 Won't they?
01:29:48.380 Yes.
01:29:48.980 Won't they DJ?
01:29:50.000 Absolutely.
01:29:50.900 Well, thanks Andy.
01:29:55.160 Well, Hey brother, look, man, um, I really appreciate you coming in on the show, sitting
01:30:00.440 down and sharing some of your wisdom.
01:30:02.340 Uh, you know, you're doing, I hope you realize the impact that you're making on people, especially
01:30:11.040 in today's day and age where like, they're trying to demoralize population and make people
01:30:16.180 think that winning doesn't matter and everything's beautiful and it's just going to be fun.
01:30:21.860 Like what you're about and what you do is desperately needed in society.
01:30:27.960 And so I hope you realize that like what you're doing, I believe will, I don't think people
01:30:36.740 will, I don't think people realize the impact of what you're doing right now.
01:30:40.420 I don't even think that they might even understand it the whole time you're alive.
01:30:43.520 I think, but I do think that people are going to remember you for being one of the key figures
01:30:49.460 during a time where everybody was being told that winning was bad, actually helping reverse
01:30:55.680 that culture.
01:30:56.500 Thank you.
01:30:57.100 And I think that's something that, you know, I think about that a lot and I'm sure you
01:31:02.080 probably feel sometimes like, and you know, I don't, I don't know, you may not feel this
01:31:06.580 way, but like for me, I feel sometimes like nothing, none of the shit that I'm doing really
01:31:13.240 matters, but like for me to you, I'm telling you, dude, it fucking matters.
01:31:16.760 It matters.
01:31:17.120 What'd you do?
01:31:17.880 It wasn't your shit.
01:31:19.000 If it wasn't for your shit, I wouldn't do the shit that I do.
01:31:21.320 And I see all these motherfuckers that get, I get to, that's one of the best things about
01:31:25.020 what we do here at first form 75 hard, the transformation content.
01:31:29.720 Like, dude, I get to be blasted with people changing their lives.
01:31:35.320 And that's one of the things I'm most grateful for in my life is because like, dude, if I
01:31:38.820 want to be inspired, it's real easy.
01:31:40.660 I can just look around.
01:31:41.580 Just look around.
01:31:42.360 Yeah.
01:31:42.660 And, uh, but like, dude, if it wasn't for you, that shit would, that you're a part of
01:31:47.260 that.
01:31:47.800 Thank you.
01:31:48.280 It wouldn't exist, bro.
01:31:49.180 I appreciate it.
01:31:49.800 And what I've always told you guys, I'm very, I say this to very few individuals and both
01:31:58.380 of you, both of you, both of you know this, you know, Sal, Andrew have always said this
01:32:03.600 and this will never change.
01:32:05.720 I'm a phone call away.
01:32:07.240 Yeah.
01:32:07.820 We know that bro.
01:32:08.880 And that's mutual.
01:32:09.760 That's it.
01:32:10.220 I'm a phone call away.
01:32:11.960 Well, bro, thanks for making the trip, man.
01:32:13.840 Anytime.
01:32:14.420 And thanks for everything else that you do for us and for everybody else, man.
01:32:17.780 Like I, you deserve a lot more credit than what you get.
01:32:20.200 No, likewise, likewise.
01:32:22.020 It's, it's, it's great to be in a room and be able to share content with other people
01:32:30.100 that believe in greatness, that believe in winning, that believe in the relentless,
01:32:36.000 that believe in the relentless mindset, not only believe it, but actually live it, experience
01:32:42.500 it and do it every single day.
01:32:47.000 Thank you.
01:32:47.900 Yeah.
01:32:48.500 Well, thanks brother.
01:32:50.000 All right, guys, that's the show.
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01:32:53.260 And, uh, we'll see you next time.
01:32:55.040 We'll see you next time.