REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 5. When Does Technology Go Too Far In Business And Life？

00:00:00.000 What's up guys, this is Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realists. 0.99

00:00:17.780 Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking 0.99

00:00:24.100 reality. 0.99

00:00:24.700 Today we have an awesome show for you guys.

00:00:26.840 I'm joined by three other humans and then three other additional humans that don't have 0.93

00:00:33.200 microphones and we're all sitting in the room and we're talking about random shit and that's 0.96

00:00:37.320 what we're going to do today. 0.99

00:00:38.780 As always, I'm joined by my host, my co-host, fuck, I think you just got a raise. 0.98

00:00:44.500 I think I did. 1.00

00:00:45.260 Holy shit. 1.00

00:00:46.280 Yeah. 0.99

00:00:46.960 Vaughn, the pastor of disaster, DJ DJ God, Vaughn, Bon Jovi, Vaughn Diesel.

00:00:56.840 Minister of Mayhem.

00:00:57.760 The Minister of Mayhem.

00:00:59.880 What else?

00:01:02.220 Bon Jovi?

00:01:03.500 Vaughn Jovi.

00:01:04.460 Oh, Vaughn Jovi?

00:01:05.420 Vaughn Bon Jovi.

00:01:06.400 John Vaughn Jovi.

00:01:07.240 I thought you were more of like an NWA guy.

00:01:08.640 Vaughn Halen.

00:01:09.640 What about?

00:01:10.180 Vaughn Halen. 1.00

00:01:11.040 What about, uh, ah, fuck it. 1.00

00:01:14.500 I don't know. 1.00

00:01:15.460 Anyway, dude.

00:01:16.220 You were speaking about random feces.

00:01:19.200 I was thinking of certain things on the way here, you know, as my drive always provokes

00:01:24.160 deep thoughts.

00:01:25.440 Why?

00:01:27.400 I'm going to blow your mind with this question.

00:01:30.020 I'm sure.

00:01:31.640 I'm waiting.

00:01:32.760 Before we get into this mind-blowing situation that we're about to get into, we also have

00:01:38.660 in the third seat, Sal.

00:01:41.540 There's no cool nicknames for Sal.

00:01:43.560 And then we got Big Jim.

00:01:45.640 There is one, but we can't say it on the air.

00:01:47.400 Oh, really?

00:01:47.900 What is it?

00:01:48.480 Well, you know.

00:01:49.020 Oh, yeah.

00:01:49.540 The one you had when you were a kid?

00:01:51.020 Yeah.

00:01:51.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:01:51.720 Oh, shit, man. 1.00

00:01:52.200 It's offensive now. 1.00

00:01:52.880 Wait, wait.

00:01:53.380 You can't say...

00:01:54.160 Oh, it's...

00:01:54.820 Oh, I see.

00:01:55.320 I was going to say...

00:01:55.900 Listen, I'm not politically correct.

00:01:57.880 I'm 75.

00:01:58.640 Can I say it?

00:01:59.280 No.

00:01:59.880 Okay.

00:02:00.460 Dude, look, man.

00:02:02.660 His life speaks for itself.

00:02:04.380 I mean, make it up.

00:02:05.320 What are you going to do?

00:02:06.000 So, anyway, look.

00:02:07.340 Here we are.

00:02:08.940 Four dudes. 1.00

00:02:09.580 And we're going to talk about some shit. 1.00

00:02:11.100 Yes. 1.00

00:02:11.540 What's going on, dude, anyway?

00:02:12.740 Well, in all seriousness...

00:02:13.180 I haven't seen you in a long time.

00:02:14.540 I know.

00:02:14.900 It's been a while.

00:02:15.180 I haven't seen you in a whole year.

00:02:16.180 Since last year.

00:02:17.200 Oh, I know.

00:02:17.920 It's since 2019.

00:02:20.460 No, when I drive to and from Kansas, I have these deep thoughts that go through my mind

00:02:25.060 because I'm driving on the open plain and then I cross into Missouri where all the really

00:02:29.420 smutty billboards are and everything like that. 0.99

00:02:31.280 But it makes me think.

00:02:32.360 So, here's the question.

00:02:33.100 The heathens in Missouri versus the holies in Kansas? 0.72

00:02:36.260 Exactly.

00:02:36.560 Exactly.

00:02:37.600 So, how do we decide...

00:02:39.240 I'm happy where we are.

00:02:40.360 Well, I'm just...

00:02:41.080 No, Vaughn.

00:02:41.580 I mean, that's Vaughn's way of politely saying he's better than us.

00:02:44.300 Oh, I know.

00:02:45.020 I got it.

00:02:45.300 We all got it.

00:02:46.380 I got to take what I can get.

00:02:47.700 We all got it.

00:02:48.180 No, but are you ready?

00:02:49.540 Here's my question.

00:02:50.280 This is the deep thought that was going on in my mind.

00:02:53.180 Why did we decide to make road signs green?

00:02:57.220 I'm sure there's a reason.

00:02:58.400 It probably has to do with them being reflective, I bet.

00:03:00.120 You think so?

00:03:00.760 Yeah.

00:03:01.520 I mean, does it have to do with color psychology or anything?

00:03:04.120 That's your deep thought? 0.99

00:03:04.800 Well, don't we have fact checkers here on the show that are supposed to look this shit 1.00

00:03:09.440 up? 1.00

00:03:09.760 Google that shit. 1.00

00:03:10.360 Let's find out. 1.00

00:03:10.440 In some states, they're blue, just so you're aware.

00:03:12.640 You're not world...

00:03:13.580 You're not...

00:03:13.960 No, I think some states...

00:03:14.640 You don't have enough highway time.

00:03:15.340 I don't think they are blue.

00:03:17.280 I think some of them are blue, but I think most...

00:03:20.260 The ones on the side that mark the miles are always green.

00:03:22.580 I think Madot wants them to be red.

00:03:24.700 I don't know.

00:03:25.160 Because he's a commie.

00:03:26.220 Ah, there's blue.

00:03:27.400 Right?

00:03:27.740 There are blue.

00:03:28.240 I'm pretty sure about this.

00:03:30.060 I got a lot of highway...

00:03:30.720 Well, some of them are blue, but not all of them.

00:03:32.180 I was curious, when you're driving 61 miles an hour as the rebel you are, how can you

00:03:38.180 even see those signs?

00:03:39.500 Well, it's hard because driving the Honda, it's hard, man.

00:03:43.400 It's hard to go under 100.

00:03:45.300 Before we went on air, we were asking Vaughn how long it took him.

00:03:47.520 He's like, with my family, it takes me five hours.

00:03:49.620 But if I'm by myself, I can knock it down in four and a half.

00:03:52.580 What do you do with all that 61 in your gas pedal? 0.96

00:03:54.720 He came here last week, and he fucking walks in here, and he's smiling real big, and it's 0.97

00:03:59.580 just me and him. 0.98

00:04:00.220 I'm like, dude, what?

00:04:01.760 And he's like, I got here in four hours.

00:04:04.160 I know. 0.99

00:04:04.920 Dude, he was so fucking proud. 0.97

00:04:07.340 Now I got to see if I can do it. 0.98

00:04:08.380 Well, that's...

00:04:08.500 With that big race.

00:04:08.940 I got to see if I can do that with a minivan.

00:04:10.520 With that big race?

00:04:11.260 You can do it in a minivan.

00:04:11.720 You know what's funny?

00:04:12.400 Do you know what's funny?

00:04:13.060 How much of the drive, percentage-wise, is Missouri versus how long you're in Kansas?

00:04:18.880 Would you say like 70% Missouri?

00:04:21.040 Probably 80-20.

00:04:21.560 No, it was two hours of Kansas and three hours of Missouri.

00:04:24.820 Okay.

00:04:25.380 So I don't know what that breaks out into.

00:04:27.340 Like, on one way.

00:04:28.480 Yeah.

00:04:28.820 Yeah.

00:04:29.040 All right.

00:04:29.220 So three out of five?

00:04:30.640 Yeah.

00:04:31.000 Okay.

00:04:32.120 And you just made that joke about Missouri, and like all the state troopers listen to this

00:04:37.020 show.

00:04:37.360 I know.

00:04:37.660 That's true. 1.00

00:04:38.320 That was really fucking stupid, bro. 1.00

00:04:39.740 But I think people deep down know that I got a lot of love from Missouri. 1.00

00:04:42.040 Oh, he's fucking backpedaling. 0.99

00:04:44.300 You got to admit. 0.99

00:04:45.120 That's a little bit of a new name.

00:04:46.620 Come on.

00:04:47.000 You got to admit.

00:04:47.500 Vaughn Armstrong.

00:04:48.460 Yeah.

00:04:48.620 You got to admit that the stretch between Kansas City and St. Louis on I-70 is just,

00:04:55.080 it's ugly.

00:04:56.380 Really?

00:04:56.900 I don't think so, dude.

00:04:57.960 There's all sorts of billboards.

00:04:59.680 I think Missouri's one.

00:05:00.840 Like, every other billboard's either a porn store or vaping.

00:05:04.320 And?

00:05:06.520 Missouri.

00:05:06.880 What's wrong with the first one?

00:05:08.160 Right, right, right.

00:05:09.420 Vaughn, did you tell your wife that you saw those porn star things on the side?

00:05:13.520 I didn't.

00:05:13.840 I didn't confess that.

00:05:14.380 Did you tell her?

00:05:14.920 Well, that's why it took him four and a half hours this time.

00:05:17.980 Oh, yeah.

00:05:18.480 That's right.

00:05:19.300 He made a stop.

00:05:20.300 What is this glory hole thing they talk about?

00:05:22.640 Oh, my gosh.

00:05:23.340 So, anyway, what are we talking about today?

00:05:25.560 Wait.

00:05:25.840 What's going on?

00:05:26.680 Well, a lot of good, really deep, deep, life-changing stuff.

00:05:31.300 Like, first of all, you have often told me that one of your favorite movies is Wolf of

00:05:36.580 Wall Street, correct?

00:05:37.260 Oh, yeah.

00:05:37.760 Okay.

00:05:38.040 So, what's the name of the actress in that?

00:05:40.640 Margot Robbie.

00:05:41.240 Margot Robbie.

00:05:41.440 Okay.

00:05:41.900 So, Margot Robbie is in a new movie where she basically plays ... So, the movie is a fictionalized

00:05:47.100 version of the story of Fox News where I think Roger Ailes, who was the guy that started

00:05:52.440 Fox News, didn't he get in trouble, I think, for sexual harassment or something like that?

00:05:56.080 Anyway, the movie that's coming out, it's Bombshell.

00:05:59.140 It stars Margot Robbie, and it's also got Charlize Theron, I believe.

00:06:03.100 That sounds cool.

00:06:04.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:05.320 I mean, so far, so good, right?

00:06:06.700 So, it tells the story of this young girl who's basically an intern.

00:06:10.960 She's from this conservative Christian family, and it kind of tells the story of how she got

00:06:15.820 to start working for this fictionalized version of Fox News, and it's just the unfolding story

00:06:21.520 of all the drama that occurred there.

00:06:22.680 But what Margot Robbie did in preparation for this movie I thought was really interesting.

00:06:27.200 She created a fake Twitter account, and basically, she just infiltrated and participated in this

00:06:36.100 subculture on Twitter, what she called the evangelical or the Christian ... How'd she put it?

00:06:41.540 It was the conservative commentator, kind of the Fox News type of people.

00:06:47.200 So, my question for you is, the first thing, does anybody here have a fake social media account?

00:06:53.140 No.

00:06:53.440 No?

00:06:53.840 No. 1.00

00:06:54.400 Dude, I got too much shit to do to fuck with that. 1.00

00:06:56.440 Shit. 1.00

00:06:57.440 Okay, so, if somebody paid you ... Yeah, so what do you use it for, Madot? 1.00

00:07:02.800 Testing social media posts.

00:07:05.000 Oh.

00:07:05.300 Testing social media posts.

00:07:07.160 Okay, so testing social media posts.

00:07:08.400 Yeah, no one's got like a voyeur account.

00:07:10.020 Okay, right.

00:07:10.660 Right.

00:07:10.840 Okay, so if somebody paid you a billion dollars, literally, to create a fake Twitter account,

00:07:15.800 and just become part of a subculture that you find interesting.

00:07:20.460 You said billion?

00:07:21.420 Yeah, a billion.

00:07:21.880 Oh, you stopped there, yes.

00:07:24.320 What are you asking?

00:07:25.360 Okay, but so, if somebody paid you to infiltrate a subculture in America, just anything, could

00:07:30.160 be the crazy, like, socialists of America, could be like, I don't know, people who are

00:07:36.960 really into dogs, like, what subculture would you infiltrate? 0.99

00:07:41.460 Choose?

00:07:42.100 Yeah.

00:07:42.560 So, you got to choose a bad one or a good one?

00:07:44.680 One that just interested you.

00:07:46.440 For a billion?

00:07:46.960 Well, you didn't necessarily like them or agree with them, but you just wanted to- 0.98

00:07:49.400 Yeah, but I would do that just for like a weekend fucking project, bro. 0.97

00:07:52.020 Listen, you joined the CIA, you brought you over a hundred grand every day. 0.98

00:07:54.880 I mean, you're going to pay me for this?

00:07:55.900 Yeah.

00:07:56.520 Okay, so who would it be? 0.99

00:07:58.160 Fuck, I'd like, I actually, the one thing that I appreciate about, like, life in general 0.99

00:08:01.800 is I think they're all interesting. 0.99

00:08:03.880 I don't know that I could choose one.

00:08:04.980 I'd want to go figure out, I mean-

00:08:06.680 I kind of do that anyway, man.

00:08:08.120 Like, I kind of get in on-

00:08:09.120 I got groups of friends.

00:08:09.820 This is how I try to, like, learn, you know?

00:08:12.120 Like, I look at what other people say, and I try to understand why they're saying it and 0.92

00:08:18.280 how- because, like, a lot of the stuff we read, we're automatically like, how the fuck 0.99

00:08:22.920 could you- like, dude, when I was younger, I was like this, dude, this person's a fucking 1.00

00:08:27.460 moron. 1.00

00:08:28.600 How the fuck could you believe that? 1.00

00:08:31.840 But as I got older, I started to say to myself, well, there has to be, like, reasons 0.99

00:08:36.500 that they believe this.

00:08:37.560 So then I try, I would- what I try to do, and this is a cool thing about the internet

00:08:42.500 that really nobody discusses, but, you know, I try to go in and kind of see where these

00:08:48.580 beliefs are coming from and why they feel that way, and I will say 90- I've never, like,

00:08:53.840 swapped my beliefs because of it, but, you know, it starts to- I guess it kind of makes

00:08:59.620 you less mad if you could try to understand where people- you know what I'm saying?

00:09:03.520 Like, there's less frustration. 1.00

00:09:04.980 So, like, I used to be really- like, a lot of these motherfuckers online with their fucking 0.99

00:09:09.860 pitchforks and their torches trying to get everybody, I used to kind of be like that, 0.99

00:09:14.040 right? 1.00

00:09:14.260 Like, if you weren't on my team, fuck you, and that's it. 1.00

00:09:19.960 And I don't really feel that way anymore. 1.00

00:09:21.940 I feel like there's a lot of different ways to see shit. 0.94

00:09:25.680 But I do think I see shit in a pretty fucking accurate way, and my life reflects that I 0.99

00:09:31.060 see shit in an accurate way by society's standard, right? 0.99

00:09:36.640 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:37.260 So- but I still try to understand where people are coming from, and I think if everybody did

00:09:42.880 that, dude, it would be a lot fucking more pleasant place to live.

00:09:45.900 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:47.000 Well, I think it comes from ignorance, right?

00:09:49.140 Yeah.

00:09:49.300 I mean, ignorance is a- you speak from ignorance, it puts you in a bad spot, so how do you combat

00:09:54.360 ignorance?

00:09:54.900 You have to have understanding, and you have to put yourself in their shoes and understand- 1.00

00:09:58.240 Well, dude, I mean, like, if you- like, there's still some motherfuckers that say some shit, 1.00

00:10:02.560 I'm like, dude, you're fucking way fucking wrong, and you're an idiot, and you should probably 1.00

00:10:07.440 not even be on the internet. 1.00

00:10:08.520 I mean, don't get me wrong.

00:10:09.780 There's just- like, where it used to be 100 of those people, let's just say on a scale of

00:10:13.640 one to 100, it was like 98 of people like that, now it's just like 94.

00:10:19.180 Well, how many people do you really think have fake accounts out there and are doing

00:10:22.900 it?

00:10:23.320 Juan, do you know somebody, or do you know someone?

00:10:25.140 Honestly, that's a good question.

00:10:25.360 Yeah, he knows someone very intimately.

00:10:27.180 Yeah, he looks in the mirror at him every day. 0.99

00:10:29.200 We just fucking named them all. 0.99

00:10:31.260 No, that's a good question. 0.98

00:10:33.200 What's interesting is that, you know, a lot of cultures, the subcultures in America, they're

00:10:37.060 based on really serious things, you know, like politics, or morality, or orientation,

00:10:41.080 or whatever, but there's a lot of, there's some of them that are just based on things

00:10:44.180 that people are interested in.

00:10:45.480 Would you dudes ever go to, like, a cosplay convention?

00:10:48.060 I would.

00:10:48.880 A what?

00:10:49.420 A cosplay.

00:10:50.440 Like, uh, like, uh-

00:10:51.740 You know what cosplay is?

00:10:52.520 Dude, where those people dress up as comic characters.

00:10:54.300 Oh, a furry?

00:10:55.140 You're not a furry.

00:10:56.220 Oh, dude, I got a great furry story. 0.99

00:10:58.040 I knew you were going to go to the fucking furry story. 0.98

00:10:59.860 I didn't know what- 0.98

00:11:00.260 Tell your furry story, and then we'll get back to cosplay. 1.00

00:11:02.840 Well, I'm sure it's the same shit. 0.99

00:11:03.080 Dude, you know what cosplay is? 1.00

00:11:04.460 That's what Alex Zedra does.

00:11:06.360 Gotcha.

00:11:06.880 I'm on it.

00:11:07.260 It's a good similar category.

00:11:08.200 Yeah, I mean, isn't it, I mean, I don't want to offend the cosplay people here, but isn't

00:11:13.580 it basically you're just dressing up as your favorite comic book character?

00:11:15.540 Yeah, but dude, like, there has to be, to me, see, that's one of these- 0.97

00:11:18.240 There's a sexual fetish truth.

00:11:19.380 That's one of these things, you think?

00:11:20.880 That's what I'm saying.

00:11:21.460 I know, dude, I learned this.

00:11:22.620 I'm telling you.

00:11:22.860 No, no, no, dude, look.

00:11:24.180 I'm in trouble.

00:11:24.760 I, for sure-

00:11:25.820 Well, that, okay.

00:11:26.720 They don't just go there.

00:11:28.660 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:11:29.320 I've seen it.

00:11:30.160 What are you talking-

00:11:30.640 This is what I-

00:11:31.180 I mean, I haven't, like, seen it, seen it, but I've seen it, and I never knew this existed.

00:11:34.720 Wait, you're saying if I want to dress up as Spider-Man, I'm a sexual deviant?

00:11:39.660 No.

00:11:40.560 That's Vaughn's way of saying he dresses up like Spider-Man. 0.99

00:11:43.080 You fucking told your son you're Spider-Man a week ago. 0.98

00:11:45.840 Well, yeah, but I don't dress up like him. 0.99

00:11:47.660 I'm not-

00:11:47.840 Apparently you used to.

00:11:49.160 He's acting like this.

00:11:50.600 He's wanting this to come out of him.

00:11:52.400 Mine is just so my son thinks I'm badass.

00:11:55.980 Yeah, but Vaughn's doing it for his personal-

00:11:57.480 How many little boys dress up as superheroes?

00:12:01.180 That doesn't make them weird.

00:12:02.300 No.

00:12:02.660 You know what I'm saying?

00:12:03.340 When you're 35, you know, you're going to a convention.

00:12:05.580 Okay, but that's what I'm getting to.

00:12:06.540 That's what I'm getting to.

00:12:07.360 Would you go to a convention, a cosplay convention?

00:12:10.560 I've been to one.

00:12:11.060 Okay, so tell your furry story.

00:12:12.540 So, we're in Nashville, Tennessee. 0.99

00:12:14.220 I don't think furries and fucking cosplay is the same thing, bro. 0.98

00:12:17.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:12:18.080 I don't know enough about the cosplay, but I'm going to tell you my furry story.

00:12:21.500 Okay.

00:12:21.900 And it was interesting.

00:12:22.860 All right.

00:12:23.420 So, I'm pulling into Nashville, Tennessee, and I'm in a box truck, okay?

00:12:27.120 I was employee one at first for them.

00:12:29.600 The guys that came with me, it was Jared.

00:12:32.840 Tyler Jackson.

00:12:33.580 Tyler Jackson.

00:12:34.340 Yeah.

00:12:34.720 Will Dixon.

00:12:35.820 Yeah.

00:12:36.440 And they all worked for the stores, and so I needed help to go run and do this show.

00:12:42.300 And we pull in.

00:12:43.120 We got the box truck and a regular truck. 0.99

00:12:45.080 You know, we pull in the parking lot, and there are fucking people everywhere, and they're 0.99

00:12:48.420 dressed up in costumes, like these big fucking furry hats and gloves and tails dragging 0.99

00:12:53.740 across the pavement, and I'm like, what in the fuck is that? 0.99

00:12:57.480 And so, I get out. 0.96

00:12:59.360 You know, you unpack all your, you know, you get your bags, you walk into the thing, and

00:13:02.920 we're staying at this pretty sizable hotel in Nashville.

00:13:05.760 I remember it's off Rosa Woods Parkway, but I don't know exactly what the hotel is.

00:13:09.520 That's how my brain is.

00:13:10.100 And I'm checking in, and everybody around-

00:13:13.580 You mean Rosa Parks?

00:13:14.600 Rosa Parks.

00:13:15.320 Yeah.

00:13:15.600 It's the exit there in Nashville.

00:13:16.880 It's Rosa Parks.

00:13:17.200 It's right off the highway to the right.

00:13:18.460 And so-

00:13:18.640 She was a famous person.

00:13:19.580 I understand.

00:13:20.200 So, yeah, sorry.

00:13:21.040 I'm trying to tell the story and think where I was staying. 0.99

00:13:22.960 So, you're checking into the hotel, and everybody around you is dressed in these fucking 1.00

00:13:27.100 costumes. 1.00

00:13:27.640 And I mean everybody.

00:13:29.300 And you kind of like, it's almost like intimidating.

00:13:31.120 You know, you're like, what?

00:13:31.800 Is there, you know, like the people behind the counter, they're dressed normally. 1.00

00:13:35.360 We're in like polos and khaki shorts, and all these motherfuckers are in fucking 1.00

00:13:39.200 hats and tails, and they're holding hands, and they're dancing with each other. 0.99

00:13:43.220 And I remember thinking, what in the- 0.99

00:13:44.360 So, I get to the front desk, and I'm like, what in the fuck is- 0.97

00:13:46.200 Like, ma'am, excuse me, what's going on? 0.98

00:13:48.880 And she's like, oh, it's a furry convention.

00:13:50.420 You know, and I'm like, what's a furry?

00:13:52.620 You know, and she's like, well, they're furries. 1.00

00:13:54.960 This is what they do.

00:13:55.820 And I'm like, well, what do you mean this is what they do?

00:13:57.160 Well, they meet up a couple times a year, and they all, they're in character, and they

00:14:00.960 go out together, and they live their lives, and they're a little character thing. 0.96

00:14:03.420 And I'm like, you're fucking kidding me, right?

00:14:05.900 Like, so, all weekend long, you get in the elevator, there's three people, they're in 1.00

00:14:10.020 fucking costumes. 0.99

00:14:11.340 Then you start finding out, when we come back from the show that night, we go in. 1.00

00:14:15.200 So, this is like the curiosity side of my brain.

00:14:17.580 I hear the-

00:14:18.240 The furries have had a couple drinks.

00:14:19.600 The furries have had drinks, man.

00:14:21.580 And then we go down the hallway, and it's a doop, doop, doop, doop, doop.

00:14:25.340 You can hear it, you know, so I walk down to the ballroom, and I got these kids with 0.99

00:14:28.380 me, and you can tell they're nervous as fuck. 0.99

00:14:30.220 I'm, I don't give a fuck, you know, you should know this by now. 0.99

00:14:32.700 I walk down the hallway, man, the lights are going, and here are all these people, they're 0.99

00:14:35.280 all drinking, and they're out on that dance floor, man. 0.99

00:14:37.540 And you would think every, I mean, they weren't grinding, they were fucking grinding. 0.97

00:14:42.240 I mean, that dance floor was happening, man. 0.98

00:14:44.200 They weren't sixth grade grinding.

00:14:45.680 No, no, no.

00:14:46.100 They were eighth grade grinding.

00:14:47.060 They were eighth grade. 1.00

00:14:47.700 Totally different fucking grinding. 1.00

00:14:48.880 Hey, they had the blood flow in the pants, trying to tuck it under the belt. 0.99

00:14:51.600 You know what I'm saying?

00:14:52.000 And they were, they were to the point where, like, the blood flow was in the pants, but

00:14:55.320 they weren't backing up.

00:14:56.380 No, no, no.

00:14:56.920 They were getting closer.

00:14:57.620 They were rubbing it on there.

00:14:58.060 They were getting closer.

00:14:58.540 I got you.

00:14:59.140 All right.

00:15:00.160 Yeah, that's like, that's like ninth grade.

00:15:02.660 And I remember, dude, I bought a beer.

00:15:04.220 I'll never forget. 0.85

00:15:04.700 I remember sitting there, I'm like, this is fucking weird. 0.85

00:15:06.620 And I kind of like it. 1.00

00:15:07.340 They were just fucked up. 0.99

00:15:08.180 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:15:08.820 These people are fucked up, and I'm going to sit here and have a bottle of them. 1.00

00:15:11.420 You fucking started looking around for what costume you wanted. 1.00

00:15:14.340 Hey, listen, I was sitting there thinking, like, all right, if I was a furry, which one 0.99

00:15:17.760 would I go to?

00:15:18.240 I'd enjoy what I'd dance with.

00:15:19.860 Dude, and this is how he would come back, too.

00:15:21.840 He'd be like, hey, dude, this is what they all do.

00:15:24.600 This is what everybody's doing now.

00:15:26.080 It's not like, hey, I saw this.

00:15:27.580 It was cool.

00:15:28.460 He comes back.

00:15:29.140 He'd be like, hey, listen, this is what all the big leaguers do.

00:15:34.880 But I'll tell you, dude.

00:15:35.940 Sal's going to organize the first first form furry.

00:15:37.940 It's going to be PH-U-R-Y. 1.00

00:15:38.160 No, but this is one of those things, like, you know, like, I don't hate on it.

00:15:41.320 Like, I don't think, like, they're weird, right?

00:15:42.760 To me, they're weird. 0.99

00:15:43.540 But, like, hey, if that's what you're into, like, I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:15:45.760 You're not hurting me, you know? 1.00

00:15:47.220 So basically, they act exactly like normal fucking humans. 0.99

00:15:50.180 But it allows, I think in their head. 1.00

00:15:51.960 But with these costumes on.

00:15:52.440 Yeah, I think in their head, it allows them to, like, maybe block the insecurity of interaction.

00:15:56.360 They can be invisible.

00:15:57.280 Yeah.

00:15:57.780 Invisible.

00:15:58.560 So point of clarification, do they just enjoy dressing up as animals?

00:16:03.740 I didn't ask them that.

00:16:04.600 Okay, because, you know, there are some people who actually think they were born into a human body,

00:16:08.660 but they're really an animal.

00:16:09.560 I'm sure there's some of those people in there, too.

00:16:11.040 So if you were to become a furry, which furry would you be?

00:16:15.040 Man, that was a long time ago. 0.99

00:16:16.180 I think the weirdest thing was, like, they had all this shit on their hands and, like, 0.99

00:16:19.440 on their feet and their tails were dragging. 0.99

00:16:21.220 No, you're talking, like, full-on mascot costumes.

00:16:23.740 Yeah.

00:16:24.260 Yeah, I get it.

00:16:24.520 That's, like, their custom deal.

00:16:25.720 Yeah, so which one would you be?

00:16:27.240 I mean, the one that seems to keep coming back in my head is the panda.

00:16:31.000 Like, the panda was, like.

00:16:31.900 I think you would make an excellent panda.

00:16:33.420 I got a body frame for a panda.

00:16:34.740 Yeah, I agree.

00:16:35.540 I think a panda is a good choice for you.

00:16:37.520 Vaughn wants to be a wolverine.

00:16:38.380 I'd be a wolverine.

00:16:38.900 You'd be a wolverine.

00:16:39.500 Vaughn, you would be, like, a pink cat. 0.75

00:16:40.620 Small but ferocious.

00:16:41.400 What would you be, Dad?

00:16:42.920 I was thinking about a rabbit.

00:16:44.860 What? 1.00

00:16:45.420 Yeah, the fuck, like, a rabbit. 1.00

00:16:46.380 A rabbit, you know. 1.00

00:16:47.900 Rabbits are very fragile.

00:16:49.280 Like, if they get surprised, they can break away.

00:16:51.120 You know, a rabbit.

00:16:51.620 So, point of clarification, what's the difference between cosplay?

00:16:54.400 So, cosplay is a copywritten character.

00:16:56.500 So, typically, comic books of that sense.

00:16:58.720 And then, furries are their original characters.

00:17:01.980 They actually make them up themselves.

00:17:03.820 I could see you being, like, a pink-colored dog or something.

00:17:06.960 Salmon.

00:17:07.280 Like a dog.

00:17:07.940 Yeah, like a peach, pinkish dog.

00:17:10.320 I mean...

00:17:10.940 What would I be?

00:17:12.160 A bear.

00:17:12.660 A bear.

00:17:13.180 You know what I mean?

00:17:15.200 You'd be a bear.

00:17:16.020 A brown bear. 1.00

00:17:16.740 I'd be a fucking grizzly bear. 1.00

00:17:18.020 Yeah, a brown grizzly. 1.00

00:17:18.720 Yeah.

00:17:19.360 I'm telling you, man, like, they're spending some money on them costumes, too. 0.99

00:17:22.580 Like, you could, you know, I would imagine a fucking mascot. 0.99

00:17:25.120 It's not cheap. 0.99

00:17:25.900 You know, and these people, they were done up.

00:17:28.740 Yeah.

00:17:29.460 Honestly, going about cosplay, I think that'd be fun.

00:17:32.200 I've never done it, but...

00:17:33.400 But, I mean, dude, it's like some...

00:17:34.600 I mean, you gotta think, like, you...

00:17:35.680 Dude, come on, man. 0.99

00:17:36.480 That would be fun as shit. 0.99

00:17:37.540 I don't care what anybody says. 0.99

00:17:38.900 I think you should mandate that your entire company go to a cosplay convention.

00:17:42.280 No, that would be fun, dude.

00:17:43.660 I mean, like...

00:17:44.000 Dude, it would be.

00:17:44.580 It would be...

00:17:45.140 I do think... 0.98

00:17:45.660 It would be fucking more fun than what we do every other time. 0.78

00:17:48.720 I do think, though, that, like, this is the interesting thing. 0.98

00:17:50.980 For all you listeners out there, like, the guy to your right in the Cube, he might be a fucking badass furry. 0.99

00:17:55.940 You know, he might be a weird motherfucker with a red stapler, but he might be the fucking... 1.00

00:17:58.920 He might be the furry fucking master. 1.00

00:18:01.100 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:18:02.200 He's over there in his PTS reports. 1.00

00:18:04.040 Fuck yeah, he's got them all, man. 1.00

00:18:05.360 But on the weekend, he's the fucking king of furries. 1.00

00:18:07.400 Dude, he is out... 1.00

00:18:08.140 He was the guy on the dance floor.

00:18:09.140 I'm telling you, like, they were...

00:18:10.180 Dude, they were grinding, and, like, right next to him, one was breakdancing. 0.99

00:18:13.800 I fucking... 0.99

00:18:14.320 I was just like, what in the fuck is going on? 0.99

00:18:15.680 Dude, you know what, though? 0.99

00:18:16.560 I think you're right.

00:18:17.360 I think that people...

00:18:18.440 I think, you know...

00:18:20.920 It kind of shows you, dude, how people really are, man. 1.00

00:18:23.060 They put, like, a fucking... 0.99

00:18:24.980 When they are not afraid of judgment, they actually probably are a lot happier. 1.00

00:18:29.040 Well, I know this for a fact.

00:18:30.220 I mean, dude, I'm drawing a blank on his name, but, you know, Fred Bird, the St. Louis Cardinals mascot.

00:18:35.480 Like, I knew...

00:18:35.860 You know him off-site?

00:18:37.180 Yeah.

00:18:37.980 I forget his name.

00:18:38.880 It's not...

00:18:39.320 I don't know.

00:18:39.900 There's two of them, but one main one.

00:18:41.660 And, like, when you met him, like, you'd go to a wedding, and you would sit down, and

00:18:45.120 he'd be right next to you.

00:18:45.960 Like, you'd call him, quiet, didn't say hi to anybody.

00:18:49.200 Yeah.

00:18:49.560 Wouldn't do anything. 1.00

00:18:50.140 He puts that fucking mascot on. 1.00

00:18:51.400 Man, that dude is, like, on fire. 1.00

00:18:53.380 You know what I mean?

00:18:53.760 Like, he gets into role, he understands the game, and he plays it, and he does great at

00:18:57.120 it.

00:18:57.340 You know?

00:18:57.560 Yeah, but, dude, don't you think we do that?

00:18:59.200 Like, don't you think... 0.96

00:19:00.080 I think successful people fucking do that all day long. 0.99

00:19:04.220 Yeah. 0.98

00:19:04.700 Like, they assume a role, depending on what the context of what's going on, automatically.

00:19:10.020 Like, so, to me, like, the whole idea of...

00:19:13.060 Like, what I'm saying is, is, for example, like, when I do this podcast, I'm a certain version

00:19:17.680 of me.

00:19:17.880 Yeah, your character.

00:19:18.580 Right.

00:19:18.700 When I'm, I'm not a character, I'm just a version of me.

00:19:20.960 Yeah, I understand.

00:19:21.840 When I do MFCEO, I'm a different segment of me.

00:19:25.340 Right. 0.97

00:19:25.660 When I'm in a meeting here, I'm a different person, and when I'm fucking hanging out with 0.99

00:19:30.760 the same motherfuckers outside, I'm a different person. 0.99

00:19:35.100 Right. 0.99

00:19:35.340 So, to me, that makes sense, because it's like pulling out a different tool for every

00:19:40.500 job.

00:19:40.960 You know what I'm saying?

00:19:41.520 Like, you got a Swiss Army knife, and it's got all the tools.

00:19:44.700 So, but I don't know that most people have that.

00:19:48.760 No, I mean, I agree.

00:19:50.180 I think, you know, it shows you that fear is a real driver.

00:19:52.940 You know what I'm saying?

00:19:53.560 Yeah, but I'm saying, do you think most people think of themselves like they're in a role?

00:19:57.120 Like, when their mom role, their mom, when they're, like...

00:20:00.480 Oh, yeah.

00:20:00.980 When they're getting dirty with dad, their dirty role.

00:20:02.860 They should.

00:20:03.280 Yeah, that's what I think, too.

00:20:05.080 But what I'm saying, I feel like people, the reason they can't let go of being comfortable

00:20:11.020 in different situations is because they don't realize that it's okay to utilize different

00:20:17.120 versions of you under different contexts of time.

00:20:19.360 They're afraid of what people think of them.

00:20:20.960 Well, it is interesting, because...

00:20:21.820 Yeah, but if everybody else is doing it, no one's going to judge you.

00:20:24.320 Yeah, but that's kind of the thing, is like, I think, you know...

00:20:27.260 And if someone does judge you, and you're doing something, and it doesn't hurt anybody, 0.67

00:20:30.020 who fucking cares anyway. 1.00

00:20:31.260 That's my point, is fuck off. 1.00

00:20:32.060 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:20:32.540 Like, I think, you know, when you really pull back life, when you can start living

00:20:36.120 life, like, dude, if that's what you like to do, it ain't causing no problems, dude,

00:20:40.660 go do it.

00:20:41.060 Dude, I agree.

00:20:41.860 I don't judge that side of it.

00:20:42.980 I agree. 0.99

00:20:43.440 Now, if you start infringing on my shit, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:20:46.060 That's a different fucking story. 1.00

00:20:47.360 I get it. 0.99

00:20:47.680 But if that's what turns you on, and you're having fun, I'm not even making fun of it.

00:20:51.840 Because I feel that way 100%.

00:20:54.200 I find it interesting that literally anybody in society thinks that the government or anybody

00:21:01.200 should have, like, any, like, say in, you know, people's personal choices about, like, 0.97

00:21:10.360 what they choose to fucking do. 0.91

00:21:11.800 Like, it doesn't make sense to me. 0.99

00:21:14.020 Like, I've never understood where, like, there's people out there who are not affected by other

00:21:20.140 people, let's say a gay couple or whatever, something that they're not, or vice versa. 0.78

00:21:25.080 Right. 0.98

00:21:25.280 I've never understood why this person over here would fucking feel like they have any 0.99

00:21:31.260 right to tell these people what the fuck they can and can't do. 0.98

00:21:34.980 That doesn't even make sense to me. 0.99

00:21:37.000 Like, where the fuck is your ego and self-importance and, like, narcissism if you think you're that 0.99

00:21:43.780 important that you get to fucking dictate other humans' actions? 1.00

00:21:46.900 Like, it doesn't make sense. 0.98

00:21:48.360 Now, I understand we need, like, certain rules.

00:21:51.220 Right.

00:21:51.560 Basic code.

00:21:52.300 Yeah.

00:21:52.520 And we need, like, you know, a good economy. 0.99

00:21:55.560 But, like, on the social shit, like, why the fuck is this even talk in the government in 0.99

00:22:00.680 the first place? 0.99

00:22:01.240 It doesn't make sense.

00:22:02.040 Other than providing an equal playing field.

00:22:04.740 You know?

00:22:05.280 Yeah.

00:22:05.780 No, that's good.

00:22:06.560 Andrew, I got a question that raised in my head when we're talking about this.

00:22:10.260 Do you have any fear to do anything in front of people?

00:22:13.680 No.

00:22:13.820 No, not really.

00:22:14.380 Do you, Sal?

00:22:15.180 No, but I...

00:22:15.980 Neither do I.

00:22:16.780 I don't...

00:22:17.100 And I could ask that...

00:22:19.740 Well, it depends on what's expected.

00:22:21.220 Like, I just feel like whatever the context is, like, no, I, like...

00:22:25.360 But you could do it, and you wouldn't...

00:22:26.320 Yeah, right.

00:22:27.000 Look, you would prep yourself and not have fear, but be prepared, which is different. 0.96

00:22:31.920 Dude, what's the worst that's gonna fucking happen? 0.92

00:22:33.820 Exactly. 0.98

00:22:34.360 What's the worst that's gonna happen?

00:22:35.460 Dude, you're gonna...

00:22:35.980 Do you know how many times I've gone out... 0.99

00:22:37.700 I've gone out in public and fucking been embarrassed? 0.99

00:22:40.380 Like, so much, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:22:42.540 Well... 0.99

00:22:42.820 At all.

00:22:43.600 Like...

00:22:44.200 And I think you...

00:22:46.300 There's a fine line difference to...

00:22:47.980 Like, if you like it and you're afraid to do it, I think this is, like, a lot of...

00:22:51.080 This is the struggle that...

00:22:52.000 The internal struggle that a lot of people have.

00:22:53.440 Like, if you like it and it's not harming anybody, like, you gotta own it and go after

00:22:57.260 it.

00:22:57.420 Like, otherwise, you're gonna live your whole life suppressed.

00:22:59.560 You know what I mean?

00:22:59.900 Go try it.

00:23:00.580 Who cares if you...

00:23:01.340 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:23:01.800 If somebody's judging you in that regard, like, fuck off. 1.00

00:23:04.640 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:04.940 You know?

00:23:05.380 Dude, I just think people...

00:23:06.520 I think the lowest...

00:23:07.720 I personally feel that the lowest people, like, on the...

00:23:11.980 If we're gonna... 1.00

00:23:12.980 You know, like, the scum of the fucking earth people are the motherfuckers that think they 1.00

00:23:16.840 can fucking tell people they can and can't do things in their private life. 1.00

00:23:21.340 Right. 1.00

00:23:21.680 Like, get the fuck out of here, dude. 0.96

00:23:23.380 Well, they can't do it themselves. 0.98

00:23:24.760 Yeah, that's right.

00:23:25.300 And they need to be guided.

00:23:26.180 They need to be sheep and her herded and told what to do. 0.99

00:23:29.000 Well, they don't think, dude.

00:23:30.540 Well, they're used to some other person taking care of them.

00:23:34.100 Yeah.

00:23:34.540 You were touching on something earlier, man, though.

00:23:36.720 I think it's worth teasing out a little bit, which is...

00:23:39.300 Like, I think everybody in our culture, we always talk about, oh, take off the mask and

00:23:43.780 let people see who you are.

00:23:44.940 But you're saying, like...

00:23:45.960 But in different, like, contexts, you put on...

00:23:49.280 It's not a different mask, but you put on a different uniform, depending on what you're

00:23:52.680 doing.

00:23:53.220 And I think people should feel more comfortable doing that.

00:23:55.360 I think they should say, okay, so today I'm gonna be the MFCO.

00:23:58.640 Today I'm gonna be... 0.98

00:23:59.320 No, dude, I think this is where people fuck up. 0.98

00:24:01.540 Okay? 0.99

00:24:02.160 Like, people fuck up because they don't understand context. 0.99

00:24:05.000 They don't understand they're supposed to be this at work, this at home. 0.99

00:24:09.300 This with my friends. 0.99

00:24:10.800 Dude, now we have situations where motherfuckers are coming to work and having, like, emotional 1.00

00:24:15.640 breakdowns at work because they feel like that's the authentic thing to do. 0.99

00:24:19.760 Right. 1.00

00:24:20.060 Like, what the fuck, bro? 1.00

00:24:21.500 Like, pull your shit together. 1.00

00:24:22.660 This is your work. 1.00

00:24:24.240 Right? 1.00

00:24:25.020 Save that shit for your friends and your fucking home and the other place. 1.00

00:24:28.360 Like... 1.00

00:24:28.600 And try doing that on the battlefield and see how it works.

00:24:30.480 Dude, anywhere. 1.00

00:24:31.280 This is the fucking problem with society right now is that we have a bunch of motherfuckers 1.00

00:24:35.980 that are seriously too fucking stupid to understand context. 1.00

00:24:41.160 When you go to work, you're supposed to be a fucking certain person. 1.00

00:24:44.280 When you go home, that's a different role. 1.00

00:24:46.540 When you go out in a fucking sporting event, that's a different role. 0.99

00:24:50.300 When you go in business, that's a different role. 0.99

00:24:52.440 All those things make up who you are. 0.93

00:24:54.860 Just because you're not all of those things at the fucking everything does not make you inauthentic. 0.95

00:25:01.600 Right. 0.98

00:25:02.040 That's what I'm saying.

00:25:03.200 Absolutely.

00:25:04.060 I think that's why I've always appreciated, like, the analogy of sport or, like, the locker room, like, to life.

00:25:09.700 Because, you know, when you... 0.95

00:25:11.620 If you're a professional athlete in any way, shape, or form, like, the field doesn't give a fuck if you're having a bad day. 0.77

00:25:17.280 You know, like, the field only respects the fact that... 0.99

00:25:20.320 You scored or you fucking did it. 0.99

00:25:22.040 And if they... 0.99

00:25:22.720 Until you... 0.98

00:25:23.340 Like, the coach's role is to find somebody who's fucking executing on that. 0.99

00:25:27.220 And if you don't fucking like it, they don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:25:29.740 And if the world was really... 0.99

00:25:31.300 If business and the world was treated that way, we'd have a lot better place. 0.98

00:25:34.920 You know, they don't give a fuck if you're having a bad day. 0.99

00:25:37.140 They give a fuck about winning. 0.99

00:25:38.380 Dude, that's our role here. 0.99

00:25:40.440 Now, you take the same guy who...

00:25:42.700 And, dude, we don't get this in our work.

00:25:44.040 I'm saying it.

00:25:45.100 This... 1.00

00:25:45.740 In my context of being a coach for a lot of other fucking entrepreneurs, these guys are dealing with this shit. 1.00

00:25:53.140 Our people, our culture... 1.00

00:25:54.740 I want to be clear because all our guys listen to this and they don't fucking do that shit here. 0.99

00:25:58.680 It's different. 0.99

00:26:00.060 So...

00:26:00.460 But what I'm saying is, is that people don't understand how to operate within the context of whatever it is they're doing.

00:26:11.720 They don't get it.

00:26:13.060 They think they got...

00:26:13.920 Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:26:14.900 Yeah. 0.99

00:26:15.020 They got to come to office and vet all their shit to the boss or the HR or this. 1.00

00:26:20.880 And if they don't fucking listen, it's the fucking company's fault. 1.00

00:26:24.320 That's bullshit. 1.00

00:26:25.520 Right. 1.00

00:26:25.900 Well, I think that's the thing, right?

00:26:27.160 Like, in a locker room, you know, there's like the stages in a locker room.

00:26:29.580 A locker room's like a sacred place.

00:26:30.820 Like, you have that conversation in a locker room.

00:26:32.740 But when you get in a dugout, you don't have that conversation no more.

00:26:35.300 We're playing.

00:26:35.880 Yeah, dude.

00:26:36.240 You know what I mean?

00:26:36.640 Yeah, that's what I was going to say a minute ago. 0.99

00:26:38.020 We fucking take the same fucking guy who, you know, is having a rough time outside, dude. 0.99

00:26:43.180 And we're fucking, all right, what can we do about that? 1.00

00:26:45.840 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

00:26:46.440 It's not like you don't care.

00:26:47.500 It's just not appropriate for the context.

00:26:49.360 Dude, some of the best guys in the locker room, like, they got the rule followers.

00:26:53.980 I mean, they kind of play in each role, right?

00:26:55.880 You'd have the rule follower who, you know, he was a great teammate.

00:26:58.400 He'd listen.

00:26:59.060 He did everything by the books. 1.00

00:27:00.580 He'd go out and he'd compete his fucking ass off. 0.99

00:27:02.220 And you're always, kind of like, and I'm not, don't get mad at me here. 0.99

00:27:04.540 Kind of like a Vaughn, right? 0.99

00:27:05.280 You'd be like, man, fucking Vaughn don't party, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:27:07.640 We get that motherfucker in the bar. 1.00

00:27:09.100 Vaughn parties. 1.00

00:27:09.520 No, we'd get that motherfucker in the bar and he'd be standing on a son of a bitch. 1.00

00:27:13.200 And you're like, all right, I like Steve. 1.00

00:27:16.020 Steve fucking gets down. 0.99

00:27:17.000 Yeah, that's fun. 1.00

00:27:18.220 But that's playing each role.

00:27:19.600 You know, like, there's a time and a place. 0.99

00:27:21.420 You know, hey, if Steve wants to fucking take his shirt off and fucking get in his underwear 1.00

00:27:24.580 and sing karaoke, like, fuck, I'm, you know, go for it, man. 1.00

00:27:27.220 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:27:27.940 In the locker room, he was a role and field, he's a role.

00:27:30.540 And in the bar, it's a different role.

00:27:31.860 Have fun.

00:27:32.380 Yeah, but do you, dude, do you, I don't think people understand that.

00:27:37.340 Well, they're afraid of it, man.

00:27:38.300 I mean, you got to think, like, it's taken you a lot of years to get the confidence where

00:27:41.360 you have to be able to say that and do that and then execute on that.

00:27:45.760 And it's fear of failure, like fear of what everybody's going to say about you.

00:27:50.000 Dude, but I think the, I think the difference between people who are super high functioning

00:27:55.160 in all areas and people who aren't is what I'm saying.

00:27:59.680 No, I would agree with that.

00:28:00.660 Yeah.

00:28:00.940 But it takes time to get there.

00:28:01.960 You know, and I think the message to somebody who's struggling with that is like, hey, man,

00:28:06.240 like, understand the role and then execute on that role and understand that, like, it's 0.99

00:28:10.660 okay if you like some fucking shit outside the box, you know. 0.98

00:28:13.760 But you know what I feel like I'm hearing from you guys when I'm listening is I'm, I'm, 0.99

00:28:17.120 one aspect of this is I feel like our culture, people in our culture have, have lost the ability

00:28:21.860 to discern between, okay, here's when it's appropriate for you to be an individual.

00:28:26.300 And here's when it's not, when you do have to do what's best for the team or the business

00:28:32.520 or whatever.

00:28:33.040 And I think what happens is we have two extremes.

00:28:35.100 We have people coming to work and thinking the whole office revolves around what a, what

00:28:39.440 a personal problems they're having at the time.

00:28:41.540 But then the opposite is we have the, the person who has different aspects of themselves

00:28:46.060 that they'd like to express.

00:28:47.100 And I'm not talking about crazy salacious stuff.

00:28:48.940 I'm just talking about like my, my buddy, Pete, he has always wanted to be involved in the

00:28:54.300 rodeo industry.

00:28:55.360 Okay.

00:28:55.580 He, he's, he's hasn't really grown up in it.

00:28:58.080 Uh, never, never had an opportunity to be part of it.

00:29:00.880 He decides at 30 some years old, he's like, dude, I want to be part of that industry.

00:29:05.020 But I, in talking to him, I realized that he feels like he has to have some reason.

00:29:10.360 Like he has to either be invited into it or he has to legitimize it some way.

00:29:15.460 And I'm like, no, you don't have to do that at all.

00:29:17.280 You just, if that's something you want to do, do it.

00:29:19.760 And I, that's what I feel like, dude, you're good at Andy as you decided after three

00:29:24.060 years, four years of doing MFCO, you're going to do a comedy and social and culture thing.

00:29:28.340 And you didn't say, Oh, I need permission or people don't know me like this.

00:29:32.040 You just said, this is an aspect of my life that I'd like to express and I'm going to

00:29:36.520 do it.

00:29:36.880 This is how I, I don't know why this maps in my brain this way, but this is how it maps

00:29:40.300 in my brain. 1.00

00:29:40.720 It's kind of like having sex with your wife at home. 1.00

00:29:43.260 I know why. 1.00

00:29:44.100 No, no, no.

00:29:44.780 For real. 0.99

00:29:45.160 At home you have sex.

00:29:46.240 Like sometimes you get, you know, sometimes you get outside the boundaries, but you know, there's

00:29:49.460 kind of the rules to the game.

00:29:50.680 Right. 0.98

00:29:51.340 But if you go to a bad-ass hotel, that's got a fucking glass view all the way in the 0.99

00:29:54.860 front. 0.99

00:29:55.220 Oh, you're getting dirty.

00:29:56.200 That's right.

00:29:56.560 You walk in and you're like, you know what?

00:29:57.800 This is my role.

00:29:59.020 My role is like on the glass.

00:30:02.540 So like understanding your environment and executing on that environment, it's a huge

00:30:06.200 thing.

00:30:06.620 Right.

00:30:06.960 And it's okay. 1.00

00:30:07.680 Like you're, you, maybe you don't do that at home, but you do it in a fucking hotel. 0.99

00:30:12.540 I don't know why it came to my brain. 0.99

00:30:14.060 It's the best thing I can do.

00:30:15.060 It actually makes total sense, which is that you have to feel comfortable.

00:30:19.100 Like context influences us and, and you have to feel comfortable expressing different

00:30:25.340 aspects of yourself based on the context.

00:30:27.100 It makes total sense.

00:30:27.840 And I think, again, going back to what we're saying is that people nowadays don't understand

00:30:32.500 that there is a context. 0.99

00:30:33.440 They're trying to express themselves everywhere they fucking go. 0.99

00:30:36.580 Right. 0.99

00:30:36.960 And then, and then they end up feeling like everybody hates it.

00:30:40.160 And it's not that everybody hates it. 0.98

00:30:41.840 It's that you're doing it the wrong fucking time. 0.97

00:30:43.860 Right. 1.00

00:30:44.420 Jesus, act like a normal fucking human. 1.00

00:30:46.800 Right. 1.00

00:30:47.180 I think a lot of that spawned from sexuality, right?

00:30:50.080 Yvonne, I want to know, do you express yourself at the hotel with your wife?

00:30:53.260 I want to hear you say it on that microphone.

00:30:55.440 Oh, yeah.

00:30:56.060 Oh, yeah.

00:30:56.680 Oh, yeah.

00:30:57.580 Yvonne, dude, he didn't get the name Vaughn the Impaler for nothing.

00:31:00.820 Exactly.

00:31:01.340 Who gave you that name?

00:31:02.420 You?

00:31:04.080 No, I think it was a collaboration.

00:31:05.920 Disturbingly enough, I think it was probably Andy, but.

00:31:07.920 Yeah.

00:31:09.460 Yeah, we were talking about it.

00:31:10.460 It's not anybody you wrote a book for, is it, Vaughn?

00:31:11.840 You're right.

00:31:13.080 Yeah, that's right.

00:31:13.900 Well, maybe.

00:31:15.080 Somebody told me your name was Vaughnnie Holmes.

00:31:17.620 Vaughnnie Holmes?

00:31:18.980 Not Vaughn Jeremy? 0.99

00:31:20.100 Shit, the kids listening to this, they don't even know who John Holmes is. 1.00

00:31:23.500 That's right. 1.00

00:31:24.540 True confessions, I don't know who John Holmes is.

00:31:26.460 Google it.

00:31:26.900 Oh, Lord.

00:31:27.500 Just Google it, Vaughn.

00:31:28.380 Google image it.

00:31:29.260 Is this up to Vaughn Jeremy?

00:31:30.800 Right click, save his desktop.

00:31:32.960 He's a grande impaler.

00:31:34.860 Oh, the grande impaler.

00:31:36.720 All right. 1.00

00:31:39.240 What was the dirty looking motherfucker's name? 1.00

00:31:41.680 Ron Jeremy. 1.00

00:31:42.500 Ron Jeremy, man.

00:31:43.480 We already talked about Vaughn Jeremy.

00:31:45.540 We've already talked about it.

00:31:46.960 You know who Ron Jeremy is, but you don't know who John Holmes is.

00:31:49.420 I don't know.

00:31:49.920 I don't, like, catalog all the guys.

00:31:51.700 Isn't that what Boogie Nights is based off of?

00:31:55.460 I think so.

00:31:56.080 The story of John Holmes?

00:31:56.860 Yeah.

00:31:57.240 You've seen Boogie Nights?

00:31:58.060 I have not seen Boogie Nights.

00:31:58.900 It's a good movie.

00:31:59.560 You should watch it.

00:32:00.200 Yeah.

00:32:00.500 It is.

00:32:00.880 It's for real.

00:32:01.280 It's good.

00:32:01.820 Okay.

00:32:02.660 Manat's over here showing us pictures.

00:32:05.040 That's the Ron Jeremy, buddy.

00:32:07.840 Obviously, you know, I get what you guys are saying when it comes to, you know. 0.99

00:32:11.120 Huge dicks. 1.00

00:32:11.820 Yeah. 0.99

00:32:12.560 People want to express themselves.

00:32:14.080 Pee-pees. 1.00

00:32:14.400 If it's harmless, let them do this.

00:32:15.180 Vaughn, does that make you nervous?

00:32:16.260 Pee-pees, Vaughn.

00:32:16.900 No, not at all. 1.00

00:32:17.200 Vaughn, he's like, oh my God, fucking huge dick. 1.00

00:32:19.300 Pee-pees, Vaughn. 1.00

00:32:21.360 What you all are missing out on?

00:32:22.360 Do you have to release some trauma, bro?

00:32:24.160 No.

00:32:24.760 You want to have therapy here?

00:32:25.620 We can do it.

00:32:26.620 Hold on.

00:32:27.060 I'll judge you, man.

00:32:28.020 Listen, we don't need to have-

00:32:28.780 I don't judge you.

00:32:29.500 It's okay.

00:32:29.980 I don't feel judged, and I know it's okay.

00:32:31.920 You need to go on in one of those-

00:32:33.140 What were we talking about?

00:32:40.360 I know you release all that tension at that 61-mile-an-hour speed zone.

00:32:43.320 61.

00:32:43.880 Sometimes I go 67.

00:32:45.300 Ooh, doggie. 0.94

00:32:45.700 And sometimes even 69.

00:32:47.720 Oh, yeah.

00:32:50.240 That's my man.

00:32:51.280 Boy.

00:32:53.360 They're not going to let me in church anymore.

00:32:54.440 If you're not laughing in your car right now, you have no soul. 1.00

00:32:58.040 Fuck you, too. 1.00

00:32:58.840 No, but so obviously we all get the whole idea of it. 1.00

00:33:03.740 If you express yourself, it doesn't hurt anybody, fine, whatever.

00:33:06.440 But do you think, though, it's come to the point in our culture where it's almost gotten

00:33:11.240 to be people are so obsessed about, you know, I got to do me and being individuals that it's

00:33:18.140 almost gotten to be like a competition to see who can be weirder.

00:33:21.440 Who can be more annoying.

00:33:22.320 Oh, yeah.

00:33:22.860 Totally, dude.

00:33:23.600 Because that goes right in with the attention thing. 0.98

00:33:26.640 Like, dude, people are doing, they're so fucking, see, Zuckerberg's a fucking smart 1.00

00:33:33.020 motherfucker. 1.00

00:33:34.020 Like, dude, you know, he figured out that the most valuable fucking thing in the world 1.00

00:33:38.620 of people is attention. 0.99

00:33:39.680 Oh, yeah.

00:33:40.020 Yeah. 0.99

00:33:40.240 And he figured out how to fucking sell it. 0.99

00:33:42.220 I mean, that's genius. 0.98

00:33:43.620 But like, dude, these people, I guarantee, dude, that's exactly what the deal is.

00:33:52.160 People have to figure out how to get the likes, man.

00:33:54.600 They got to get the shares.

00:33:55.760 They got to get the comments.

00:33:57.060 Right. 1.00

00:33:57.200 Dude, you see fucking people, celebrities doing it. 1.00

00:33:59.820 I just saw before we got on the show some bullshit tweet some celebrity made about Trump 1.00

00:34:05.340 missling that dude over in Iraq, apologizing to the fucking people, the country of Iraq. 1.00

00:34:11.220 This motherfucker will kill you and your fucking family and fucking put you on a fucking stake. 1.00

00:34:17.720 Like, dude, these people are delusional. 1.00

00:34:19.960 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:34:20.600 Like, they're fucking delusional. 0.98

00:34:21.960 Yeah, there's actually hard evidence that he was already planning attacks from multiple 0.99

00:34:26.140 countries. 1.00

00:34:26.160 Oh, fuck yeah, dude. 0.99

00:34:26.880 It's been going on for a couple years. 1.00

00:34:29.020 But what I'm saying is, these people do that shit not even truly believing what the fuck 1.00

00:34:35.380 they said. 1.00

00:34:36.040 They're just trying to get relevant again. 1.00

00:34:38.660 I mean, dude, fuck, look what girls do on Instagram and guys do on Instagram now. 1.00

00:34:43.340 Like, fuck. 1.00

00:34:46.060 Listen, I mean, I would consider myself a really secure person. 1.00

00:34:49.040 You know, I'm confident in most things I do.

00:34:51.240 I can see where people fall into the trap.

00:34:53.280 Like, I made a post in regards to Haiti the other day.

00:34:55.920 Like, I spent, you know, an hour writing the post and I'm all in it.

00:34:59.040 And it gets the least amount of likes I've ever had.

00:35:02.540 And I get, like, emotionally upset. 0.99

00:35:03.780 Like, dude, how come that one gets fucking fucked with? 1.00

00:35:05.940 That's a good question. 0.99

00:35:06.560 Or another post and it gets, you know, a million likes. 0.99

00:35:08.340 And you're like, well, how the fuck is that? 0.97

00:35:09.840 And you start getting mad at this. 0.98

00:35:11.000 And I can see where people struggle with that, you know?

00:35:14.180 It's like, well, then I got to make my content based on what people like. 0.97

00:35:16.700 Well, this is why there's so many ass pictures on Instagram. 1.00

00:35:19.400 Exactly. 1.00

00:35:19.680 Let's be fucking real. 0.98

00:35:20.560 Exactly. 0.97

00:35:20.860 Like, dude, one girl.

00:35:22.320 Jason the likes. 1.00

00:35:22.880 No, one girl started pulling her swimsuit so far up her ass she could fucking taste it. 1.00

00:35:27.740 And then she figured out that she got a lot of likes. 1.00

00:35:30.680 And then she kept doing it.

00:35:31.720 And then other girls noticed that she got a lot of likes. 1.00

00:35:33.440 Now all these girls, that's all they post is pictures of their swimsuit pulled up their fucking face. 1.00

00:35:39.460 Actually, it's created an entire new category of swimsuits. 0.99

00:35:42.360 Yeah.

00:35:43.120 Exactly. 0.96

00:35:43.840 It brought, like, it made thongs fucking, like, so, like, dude, five years ago, 0.98

00:35:48.860 people didn't wear thongs to a family pool. 1.00

00:35:51.380 Now it's like all the chicks wear. 1.00

00:35:53.740 Dude, right.

00:35:54.240 I can't tell you the last time I didn't see a thong.

00:35:56.020 I know.

00:35:56.340 That's what I'm saying.

00:35:57.080 But, like, dude, that's a reason. 1.00

00:35:58.480 My girls are going out in one of the 19s fucking, 60s fucking. 1.00

00:36:01.220 They're going out in a fucking wetsuit. 1.00

00:36:03.340 That's right. 1.00

00:36:04.060 Fucking three millimeter neoprene, son. 0.99

00:36:05.940 But, dude, here's the thing. 1.00

00:36:07.640 I'm not, like, dude, you show whatever the fuck you want. 0.97

00:36:09.900 I'm not judging you. 0.98

00:36:10.540 But I'm telling you, there's a lot of girls out there that don't want to post like that. 1.00

00:36:13.760 They want to post who they are and say things they want to say. 1.00

00:36:16.680 And they have shit to offer and they won't do it because they're addicted to the fucking 0.99

00:36:20.640 likes and shares that people do when they post those pics. 0.99

00:36:23.680 So, dude, how do we encourage people to use social media in a way that's, like, positive

00:36:29.040 and constructive when the reality is bad behavior is rewarded, isn't it?

00:36:33.820 It's not even who says it's bad.

00:36:35.360 Well, what I'm saying is that goofiness where you're just that Tommy Topper mentality.

00:36:39.280 The weirder you get, the more attention you get.

00:36:41.740 Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:36:43.300 Like, that's what I'm saying.

00:36:44.140 Like, how do we curb that when the reality is, even though all of us agree that it's

00:36:49.580 crazy, they're still getting attention.

00:36:51.840 Like, how do we break people in that?

00:36:53.360 Well, it comes back to money, too, bro.

00:36:55.100 Like, dude, the people with the most attention get most money in social media.

00:36:59.380 It's just the way that it's set up.

00:37:00.900 So, then it becomes, you know, a money deal.

00:37:03.620 So, now it's not even, like, be true to self and who I am.

00:37:06.900 And now it's, how can I manipulate my product to make the most money, which is what we have

00:37:10.920 going on.

00:37:11.860 Because if people could show metrics of this or that, they get paid more money.

00:37:16.780 Yeah, but you've said that with, like, girls, I'm picking on the girls, but when they go 1.00

00:37:21.460 half naked, that doesn't always translate into monetizing, you know, because they have

00:37:25.680 a bunch of followers.

00:37:27.540 Well, it depends on what they're, you know what I'm saying?

00:37:28.880 It depends.

00:37:30.500 It just depends.

00:37:31.220 Because what if they're an influential lesbian who has a lot of female followers? 1.00

00:37:37.260 I mean, dude, she's going to sell different products than a girl who has mostly men followers, 1.00

00:37:42.080 this, that.

00:37:43.240 But what I'm trying to say, I'm not trying to say there's anything wrong with it. 0.77

00:37:47.240 I'm explaining how the trends start and then how people get fucking stuck in the trend because

00:37:53.000 they're trying to monetize or be relevant.

00:37:56.160 And so what they end up doing is creating more and more extreme versions of the same

00:38:00.900 thing, when in reality, if they just pivoted a little bit into something just a little

00:38:05.220 slightly different, they would engage the attention of their audience again, even though 1.00

00:38:10.700 the first couple posts, you're going to have all the fucking cheap seat motherfuckers saying, 1.00

00:38:14.580 boo, fuck you. 1.00

00:38:15.700 Dude, when we first started this podcast, we had a handful of people who were like, oh, 1.00

00:38:18.920 it's fucking horrible. 1.00

00:38:20.320 Well, fuck you then. 1.00

00:38:21.480 Go listen to something else. 1.00

00:38:22.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:23.440 So you're going to lose some people.

00:38:24.580 But when you pivot, you create and peak new attention, which actually creates more traffic.

00:38:30.720 So the fact, what I'm saying is there's a lot of, the example I was using about the

00:38:35.960 girls with the swimsuit thing, there's a lot of girls in that scenario right now that 1.00

00:38:40.640 are trapped mentally and it's a false entrapment because if they changed and pivoted, they'd

00:38:47.860 peak the curiosity.

00:38:49.040 They might go down for a month, but the brand would ultimately come back stronger.

00:38:54.580 And that's what I, that's what I'm trying to say is people are falsely imprisoned inside 0.99

00:38:59.840 their idea of what the attention they're going to get, which drives this crazy shit you're 0.99

00:39:04.280 talking about. 0.99

00:39:05.020 You see what I'm saying?

00:39:05.640 Well, and I think it drives the insecurity problem with turns into the, you know, the

00:39:09.380 mental health problem, you know, like they're not being accepted anymore and what's wrong

00:39:12.940 with me and I want to do it.

00:39:14.060 They don't want to do it.

00:39:14.740 And then it creates this downward spiral because they're doing something they quote unquote

00:39:17.820 don't want to do, but they feel they have to do it.

00:39:20.580 I've talked to a lot of these girls cause I know a lot of these influencers and dude, 1.00

00:39:23.720 they'll tell, they'll straight up, they'll tell you, you talk to them real, they'll tell

00:39:27.320 you that.

00:39:27.800 Right.

00:39:28.260 You know what I'm saying?

00:39:28.760 Hey, I want to do more. 0.97

00:39:29.840 I want to fucking, I want, I want people to know this about me. 0.92

00:39:33.180 I want, but I can't cause if I post that, then I get fucking no engagement, my page dies 0.96

00:39:38.220 and I stopped getting paid.

00:39:39.280 I've heard this from people.

00:39:40.500 And dude, that's, well, that's my point to my point though.

00:39:44.980 That's why I was saying, I know it's tough because even, you know, like I'm not trying

00:39:48.180 to get that engaged, but I look at those numbers, you know, on something that means something

00:39:51.760 to me and it's like, to Andrew's point, like, then I don't get as many likes.

00:39:54.460 I'm like, you start having this conversation, it was a bad post.

00:39:56.980 I think the point, the point here is that if you stick with that authenticity, you'll win

00:40:02.620 in the long run.

00:40:03.360 That's right. 0.99

00:40:03.660 So you might have, you might have a fucking post or three or four that fucking don't do 0.99

00:40:08.660 shit, but the overall body of work that is you is people are going to go back and they're 0.99

00:40:13.980 going to see that and they're going to be like, fuck, I like this guy. 1.00

00:40:15.980 Right. 0.99

00:40:16.260 Well, and not only that, I mean, let's say you have 54 people like that post on Haiti.

00:40:20.540 Well, of those 54 people that liked it, even if you have like three or four who decide,

00:40:24.820 Hey man, I'm going to do something.

00:40:25.860 I'm going to do something about it.

00:40:26.820 It's worth it.

00:40:27.420 But see, the difference is that Sal, you're secure as a, as a human being.

00:40:30.960 So to have that result is meaningful to you and brings you happiness.

00:40:34.720 But the people that are just like looking at likes as self-validation are never, ever

00:40:40.000 going to be satisfied.

00:40:40.780 Dude, those people are so filled with anxiety and fear.

00:40:43.400 It's crazy.

00:40:44.040 Yeah.

00:40:44.320 It's, it's, it's probably unbearable.

00:40:47.320 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:48.180 And frustration.

00:40:49.360 Like to my advice to those people is just do what you got to do because when I mean, 1.00

00:40:54.700 when I say that, I mean like be you, be who the fuck you are and just go do that. 1.00

00:40:59.920 And once you do that, all that anxiety and all that fucking pressure and fear and shit 1.00

00:41:03.680 will go away. 0.99

00:41:04.340 Well, I think Andrew, Andrew, we were driving down, we were driving down the highway. 0.65

00:41:09.040 I mean, look, dude, this is a big fucking reason why I pivoted from MFCEO for being honest. 0.92

00:41:14.000 Like, dude, I hated, I fucking could not stand the fact that people think that I'm some sort 1.00

00:41:22.400 of fucking psycho, crazy dickhead. 1.00

00:41:25.740 No, that context of that show is I'm the fucking teacher because I'm credible and you're the 1.00

00:41:31.960 motherfucker that wants to learn. 1.00

00:41:33.960 Okay. 1.00

00:41:34.420 So I'm going to teach you and that's the context of the show.

00:41:39.400 You see what I'm saying?

00:41:40.700 Whereas this show is more like.

00:41:44.000 You are.

00:41:44.680 Yeah.

00:41:45.100 What we talk about.

00:41:45.840 And so, dude, I wanted, I wanted to get rid of that pressure.

00:41:48.360 That's the truth.

00:41:49.000 I felt like we fulfilled the mission.

00:41:51.060 We give him, we were at a point where we would have to start repeating ourselves over and

00:41:55.300 over again. 0.99

00:41:56.220 And I wasn't having fun because I was getting labeled as this shit that I'm not. 0.98

00:42:01.580 And so like, dude, even today, like I posted some funny shit on my, on my story and people 0.98

00:42:06.640 are like, I had no idea that you had a sense of humor. 0.99

00:42:09.000 I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:42:12.120 It's about time. 1.00

00:42:12.880 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:13.500 Well, dude, I'm, yeah, no shit. 0.96

00:42:15.380 But I'm just saying. 0.97

00:42:16.380 Listen, we live with Andrew, Sal and I and Andrew live together.

00:42:20.060 Well, how old are you now?

00:42:20.780 41?

00:42:21.380 No.

00:42:21.920 I'm 40.

00:42:22.420 I'm 30.

00:42:23.700 30.

00:42:24.160 All right.

00:42:24.820 29.

00:42:25.140 He's 30.

00:42:25.560 Forever 29.

00:42:26.520 Yeah.

00:42:26.960 We were wondering when that sense of humor would come out.

00:42:29.760 Oh, yeah.

00:42:30.260 Okay. 0.99

00:42:30.580 Get the fuck out of here. 0.98

00:42:31.820 Right. 0.99

00:42:32.340 It's usually a few Bud Lights away.

00:42:34.280 Oh, yeah.

00:42:34.960 So obviously we've talked about social media and I started talking about Twitter and everything.

00:42:39.320 But continue.

00:42:40.380 But to my point, before you get into that, you understand that like, that's a scary move for

00:42:44.620 someone to make.

00:42:45.260 Oh, yeah.

00:42:45.700 Like, dude, look at this. 1.00

00:42:46.600 I was, our fucking show was number one in the fucking world. 0.99

00:42:50.580 Number one in our category in the world for fucking over a year. 1.00

00:42:55.060 Dude, to switch from that into something else that is not, I mean, dude, that takes fucking 1.00

00:43:00.660 balls. 1.00

00:43:01.680 It's a scary thing. 0.95

00:43:02.860 So I get where people are coming from, but I could tell you this, I'm a lot fucking happier 0.99

00:43:08.440 today than I was fucking four or five months ago having to do that shit. 0.99

00:43:11.500 Well, I mean, you always talk about the political divide, like what the politics or politicians 0.99

00:43:17.780 are playing for.

00:43:18.820 And there's always going to be a left and a right.

00:43:20.780 You know, there's always going to be a Republican Democrat style in life.

00:43:24.360 And a lot of people play in that vanilla middle.

00:43:27.320 You know, they try to play for the middle swing and they, they, they give to who they

00:43:31.880 are to try to gain a little bit of their following to like, let those people know that they love

00:43:36.260 them.

00:43:36.380 And then those are the harshest critics to their, to, to their mission because they can't,

00:43:40.440 they don't relate to those people.

00:43:41.240 So they, they give in on who they are and in the people that like them, they don't longer

00:43:45.980 love them because he's now he's kind of like those people. 0.97

00:43:48.240 Whereas if you could just get the 50% of people to fucking love you, you'll find all the validation. 0.78

00:43:52.680 And those are in the thoughts that you're scared of. 0.99

00:43:54.740 There are people have the same fucking fear that you have the same weird thing. 0.92

00:43:58.380 There's the reason the furry convention exists. 0.99

00:43:59.960 Cause there's a lot of fucking people who want to get dressed up in fucking fur coats 1.00

00:44:03.300 and go fucking grind on the dance floor. 1.00

00:44:04.920 It's okay. 0.99

00:44:05.760 No, they want to grind on the dance floor without the fur. 0.99

00:44:08.960 That's the point.

00:44:09.680 But that's the point.

00:44:10.700 Start there.

00:44:10.980 But they can't do it.

00:44:11.780 They can't do it.

00:44:12.480 They cannot do it.

00:44:12.820 So the fur helps you do it.

00:44:14.800 You get what I'm saying?

00:44:16.440 So I don't know.

00:44:18.040 So yeah.

00:44:18.320 So what I was saying was basically, you know, we were talking about Twitter and social media

00:44:21.660 and all that good stuff.

00:44:22.420 So I, continuing this theme of technology, there's a, a couple of reports out now that

00:44:27.420 say that a Google AI machine has actually more accurately predicted breast cancer than doctors.

00:44:35.320 And you know, we're seeing this left and right guys.

00:44:37.300 Wait, how?

00:44:37.740 Well, I have no idea because I'm a science moron, but basically it's based on a logarithm

00:44:43.160 and I'm, I'm, from what I gather, there's some sensors involved in the, uh, in the machine.

00:44:47.620 Oh, some sensors?

00:44:48.240 Some sensors.

00:44:48.820 Well, they must be very technical sensors, Lon. 0.99

00:44:51.100 What the fuck, dude? 0.99

00:44:52.600 What is that? 1.00

00:44:53.020 Tyler, fucking figure out how the fuck they did this. 1.00

00:44:55.120 Figure out how they did it. 1.00

00:44:55.960 But here's the point.

00:44:56.620 So there, there obviously say that on repeated studies, there's been cases where, uh, where

00:45:04.280 basically, you know, this artificial intelligence is doing a better job than human beings.

00:45:08.040 So the question is, Sal, if you could replace a job or service traditionally done by humans

00:45:15.300 and have it done by artificial intelligence, what would you choose?

00:45:18.860 For my personal life or for life overall?

00:45:22.580 You answer it however you want.

00:45:24.560 I mean, dude, I mean, the easiest answer for me right there is I would have, you know, robotic

00:45:29.140 people fight wars.

00:45:30.680 Oh, that's interesting.

00:45:32.400 The front line could be, isn't that what they did in Pacific Rim?

00:45:34.660 I haven't seen it.

00:45:34.980 That's kind of what we're doing now.

00:45:36.200 I think we're doing it right now.

00:45:36.860 We're moving towards that.

00:45:38.200 Well, I mean, that would be a good thing.

00:45:39.620 You save our guys, our troops from the front lines. 1.00

00:45:41.380 I mean, dude, there's a lot of motherfuckers still out there getting shot and killed and it 1.00

00:45:45.320 would be cool to, like, pull those motherfuckers out of there. 1.00

00:45:47.340 I agree 100%. 1.00

00:45:48.200 I don't know.

00:45:49.060 Introducing AI in the war is kind of scary.

00:45:50.760 Well, then, dude, you look at, like, the police support. 1.00

00:45:52.240 It's a Terminator shit. 1.00

00:45:53.180 Well, you look at, like, the police. 1.00

00:45:54.700 They start thinking for themselves.

00:45:55.940 Yeah.

00:45:56.320 The police support, man.

00:45:57.380 Like, you know, if I was a cop right now in New York City, like our buddy Mike, like,

00:46:01.360 I would be nervous.

00:46:02.440 You know what I mean?

00:46:02.880 Yeah.

00:46:03.040 And I think, you know, especially with the political unrest.

00:46:06.360 I know what I would do.

00:46:07.780 You could start putting robots into those or artificial people into those situations.

00:46:12.920 Like, that's, I mean, I think from that standpoint, that's what I would probably do.

00:46:15.080 Yeah, and then you're in a technology battle of who's technically better.

00:46:17.500 Right.

00:46:18.380 What would you do?

00:46:19.720 Dude, I would have artificial intelligence just figure out all the lottery numbers for

00:46:24.980 me.

00:46:25.680 Oh, there we go.

00:46:26.700 Yeah.

00:46:27.040 And I'd win every lottery.

00:46:28.380 Well, it does raise the question, like, how? 0.96

00:46:30.420 And then I'd just do whatever the fuck I want, which is what I do anyway. 0.97

00:46:33.160 Well, I mean, hold on. 0.96

00:46:34.040 There's two movies here.

00:46:34.300 Mike would just keep going pretty much as normal.

00:46:36.320 There's two movies here that Andrew and I watched 500,000 times at our call.

00:46:39.180 Weird science.

00:46:39.720 No. 0.99

00:46:40.420 Robocop, which is coming out in my brain, maybe, you know, what the fuck was that guy's name? 0.99

00:46:44.300 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1.00

00:46:45.640 I remember that in the fucking video. 0.99

00:46:47.520 And two is- 0.99

00:46:48.380 Clarence Bardiker.

00:46:49.040 Yeah, that's right.

00:46:49.700 What was it? 0.95

00:46:50.260 It was Back to the Future 2 when fucking What's His Nuts gets the sports bet book of all the 0.96

00:46:55.680 sporting scores and he goes back. 0.98

00:46:57.240 Yeah, Biff.

00:46:57.940 Yeah. 1.00

00:46:58.040 And he wins all the fucking money and ends up being miserable at the top of the mountain 0.99

00:47:01.480 though. 1.00

00:47:01.980 At the top of the penthouse.

00:47:02.680 Yeah, but see, it wouldn't make me miserable because I've already got money.

00:47:05.840 That's true.

00:47:06.580 So like, it wouldn't fuck me up anymore. 0.98

00:47:08.100 I'd just have a lot more of it. 0.89

00:47:10.200 Well, you'd be Biff.

00:47:12.140 No, I would not.

00:47:12.980 I'd be Andy.

00:47:13.840 But I'm saying, I would be the-

00:47:15.100 That's why I said, life would just keep going the way it's going.

00:47:17.620 I wouldn't change anything, but it would be a nice insurance.

00:47:21.100 But it does-

00:47:22.600 When I saw that, you know, you're thinking like, okay, so- 0.96

00:47:25.660 I mean, dude, honestly, curing cancer would be fucking at the top of that list too. 0.87

00:47:29.040 So, artificially- 0.64

00:47:30.720 Yeah, I mean, if they're doing it, I mean, I think that's the beauty about technology

00:47:34.280 and science, the crossover. 0.98

00:47:35.480 Like, if it's done properly the right way, like, you save a lot of fucking lives. 0.80

00:47:39.340 Now, the industry's not going to like it because it's going to take a lot of tax dollars out 0.97

00:47:42.460 of the fucking, out of the medical industry and the insurance industry and they can't 0.99

00:47:45.300 fuck the system. 1.00

00:47:46.220 Right. 1.00

00:47:46.560 Which probably, they'll figure out how to make that go away.

00:47:49.180 Dude, technology's going to cause the next recession. 1.00

00:47:51.360 All these motherfuckers right now are talking, they're all worried about the wrong shit. 1.00

00:47:55.040 They all think it's Trump and this and that. 1.00

00:47:56.780 No, it ain't. 1.00

00:47:57.880 It's fucking technology. 1.00

00:47:59.440 Google and Amazon. 1.00

00:48:00.360 Dude, every fucking company's automating things to the point where there's literally no jobs. 0.98

00:48:05.300 What do you think's going to happen to the economy when there's a huge percentage of people 0.98

00:48:09.440 that are replaced by technology?

00:48:11.020 Look everywhere that we go. 0.99

00:48:12.460 We go to the fucking Home Depot now. 0.99

00:48:14.160 We can't even get somebody real to check us out. 0.99

00:48:16.280 You go to the bank, there's not a fucking real person. 0.99

00:48:19.440 You go to the grocery store, fucking one real person. 1.00

00:48:23.660 Dude, I went to the movie theater the other day. 1.00

00:48:25.660 It was like that.

00:48:26.180 Okay.

00:48:26.680 The movie theater.

00:48:27.360 All right. 0.99

00:48:28.140 So where the fuck are those jobs? 0.99

00:48:29.960 That's a good question. 0.99

00:48:31.100 You see what I'm saying?

00:48:31.780 Yeah. 0.98

00:48:32.060 So like, dude, what people aren't even, until the, listen man, this is the biggest fucking 0.99

00:48:38.360 fuck job that's going to happen to America and people just aren't even paying attention 0.99

00:48:44.020 to it. 0.99

00:48:44.440 But the way companies are utilizing technology, it's eliminating real human jobs. 0.98

00:48:51.120 And so we have a fucking, and like, everybody thinks it's cool. 0.87

00:48:54.200 They're like, like, dude, when we were building the new building, we're getting ready to move 0.99

00:48:57.840 into a new building here in a couple months.

00:48:59.900 And they come back and they look at how we pack orders.

00:49:04.120 We pack them with real people.

00:49:05.760 Okay.

00:49:06.180 A lot, a lot of real people.

00:49:08.120 And they're always like, why do you do that?

00:49:09.540 You're wasting so much money.

00:49:10.640 You could invest a million dollars here and you'd automate this and this and this. 0.99

00:49:14.580 And I'm like, yeah, but where the fuck would they go?

00:49:17.260 And then the argument is, the argument is, well, then you just move them into more advanced 0.97

00:49:23.980 roles that can help you grow your company. 0.99

00:49:26.340 Well, I don't know if you've ever run a company before, but there's just certain motherfuckers 1.00

00:49:30.340 that aren't that advanced. 0.99

00:49:31.660 That's just reality.

00:49:32.860 Right.

00:49:33.180 There's people that just, they're going to work in a warehouse, whether they work for 0.99

00:49:37.280 you or whether they work at Amazon, whatever the fuck they work. 0.97

00:49:40.740 They're not going to work at Amazon because Amazon automates everything. 1.00

00:49:42.780 But, or not everything, but a lot of shit. 0.95

00:49:45.600 But my point is, is that like, dude, these companies, you know, instead of worrying about, 0.99

00:49:50.620 you know, how many black people versus white people they have, or how many women versus 1.00

00:49:56.440 men they have, the government's going to have to step in and say, you got to have this many 0.99

00:50:00.400 fucking people to even be open. 0.99

00:50:02.900 Otherwise the economy is going to collapse and nobody's talking about it. 0.99

00:50:06.340 This is something in the background though, that, you know, I see from an operating a business

00:50:09.540 on a day-to-day basis, you know, that people don't give Trump credit for is, you know,

00:50:13.560 by taxation on, on the tariffs and the inbound, it's forcing companies to get smart and create

00:50:19.100 things here so that we're not importing them, which creates the jobs, which is what he's

00:50:22.900 doing to offset the loss in technology, you know, and it's, and it's stemmed our economy

00:50:27.380 into a, into a boom where it's doing well because the unemployment rate is at the lowest

00:50:31.420 it's ever been.

00:50:31.880 Until they start, until they start working to regulate the advancement of technology, 0.95

00:50:37.260 dude, I'm fucking terrified. 0.97

00:50:39.840 Yeah. 0.63

00:50:40.200 Like honestly, because like, dude, it's going to, what it's going to create is a situation

00:50:43.780 where you have ultra rich people, which dude, that's going to be me because I'm where

00:50:48.780 I'm sitting in life.

00:50:49.760 I mean, that's going to be me.

00:50:51.060 Yeah. 0.99

00:50:51.640 And, but fuck dude, a lot of, a lot of people, cause dude, I'm always going to hire people. 1.00

00:50:58.240 Like that's it. 1.00

00:50:59.540 The way first form does shit, the way we do shit here, the way Sal and I do it and Jason 0.98

00:51:03.980 and Chris, we believe in people. 0.98

00:51:06.280 So we're always going to do it this way.

00:51:07.900 So people are always going to be employed here, but that ain't going to be every company. 0.99

00:51:12.960 Cause I know for sure from my experience with other entrepreneurs, a lot of motherfuckers only 0.99

00:51:18.760 care about themselves. 0.98

00:51:20.140 And so they're going to use as much technology to make the company as profitable as they can

00:51:25.500 for themselves. 0.96

00:51:26.880 So there's going to be a lot of fucking people out there that don't have a place to go and 0.99

00:51:31.040 they don't have a place to work and they don't have a place to do anything. 0.98

00:51:33.760 But here's where I think the correction will be too.

00:51:36.300 I also think the correction will be made by human companies because they're able to do

00:51:40.980 things that other humans crave.

00:51:42.920 Like they're able to make things personal and create human connection.

00:51:48.000 Like for example, like in our biz, our retail company that we own, um, you know, retail's

00:51:54.240 dying. 0.98

00:51:54.700 Everybody, if you ask any fucking economist or any business expert out there, they'll tell 1.00

00:51:58.120 you retail's dead bullshit. 1.00

00:52:00.380 This is the best opportunity ever for retail. 1.00

00:52:02.700 If you do it right, because people are fucking craving that experience of having somebody that

00:52:08.140 they know and like and trust and talk to because it doesn't exist anymore.

00:52:12.440 So if you could create a scenario in your business or your brick and mortar retail or

00:52:16.720 your shirt service shop, where you're, even if you're competing with Amazon, they can get

00:52:21.260 you the product because dude, we're in the vitamins supplement business. 0.99

00:52:24.580 People can one click ship faster than they can get the shit from us. 0.99

00:52:27.920 That's just reality. 1.00

00:52:29.040 Okay. 0.98

00:52:29.920 But they still come to us because dude, when you go in the store, we fucking know their names. 0.97

00:52:35.300 We know who they are. 0.93

00:52:36.100 We shake their hand.

00:52:36.920 We treat them like they're very special because they are very special.

00:52:40.560 And dude, if companies actually, so what we're seeing is a cyclical thinning of the

00:52:45.660 herd.

00:52:46.220 You see what I'm saying?

00:52:47.300 Yep.

00:52:47.600 So what's happening is the businesses that sucked that were like in brick and mortar, 0.99

00:52:52.500 they're fucking dying because they weren't operating properly. 0.99

00:52:55.060 Faster than that. 0.99

00:52:55.520 So the internet has corrected a lot of bad business practice, but there's going to have

00:53:00.420 to be, there's going to be a time in between the reconnect or the recorrection, which is going

00:53:05.480 to be service-based businesses that are, when I say service, I mean personal, like we employ

00:53:11.920 people, human businesses will come back around.

00:53:14.860 But between that time of tech and between the humans that come back around and take it 0.97

00:53:19.140 back because people crave that, there's going to be a fucking massive collapse. 0.95

00:53:23.220 That's what people should be afraid of. 0.96

00:53:25.900 I think if you're a great people person, it's a great time to get into your skill set in

00:53:29.000 retail. 0.98

00:53:29.600 Hey man, look, it ain't going to fuck, that collapse ain't going to hurt me. 0.99

00:53:32.780 It ain't going to hurt you. 0.99

00:53:33.800 No. 0.98

00:53:34.080 But I fucking, I'm scared for a lot of the middle people because the people who are in 1.00

00:53:38.540 the middle and in the, in the blue collar jobs that are like, you know, let's just say 0.99

00:53:43.580 like worker B jobs, like they show up, they do shit, you know, entry level worker B, you 0.93

00:53:48.800 understand? 0.99

00:53:49.300 Yeah. 0.98

00:53:49.600 Those type of jobs, they're going to be fucking those people with that little, and this is 0.98

00:53:55.140 why people should be building their own skillset because those jobs are going to be fucking 0.97

00:53:59.600 hurting bad.

00:54:01.360 I think, I think the, what, what really strikes me is that in this drive to be efficient for

00:54:08.260 the sake of humanity, we're actually ruining humanity because I think it's like you, I

00:54:12.920 purposely shop.

00:54:13.740 You always talk about values and the inefficiencies.

00:54:16.060 I actually think it's inefficiency that makes life worth living at times.

00:54:20.500 It's the little hiccups, it's the challenge, it's the connection.

00:54:22.760 It's the cup of coffee in your, in your, in the coffee shop at where you live, you enjoy

00:54:27.440 so much.

00:54:28.060 Right.

00:54:28.220 You enjoy it so much that you, when you lived here, it was one of the biggest things you

00:54:32.200 missed.

00:54:32.640 Right.

00:54:32.960 Because we didn't, you can't get that.

00:54:34.660 Right.

00:54:34.840 Like, dude, and that's the thing.

00:54:36.000 That's why human businesses will always be at an advantage over tech businesses if they

00:54:40.780 just figured out how to run them right.

00:54:42.500 Right.

00:54:42.780 You know what I'm saying?

00:54:43.480 Or even like the idea of like the way you guys have run your business.

00:54:46.720 Mistakes don't, don't torpedo your business.

00:54:49.480 When you make a mistake, when something is inefficient, you learn from it.

00:54:53.000 Yeah.

00:54:53.200 And I mean, what happens when you bring a robot in and, and replace a human being, the human

00:54:58.060 being might make a bunch of mistakes, but in the course of making mistakes, they make

00:55:01.920 new discoveries.

00:55:02.800 They do.

00:55:03.120 There's a moral standard here too.

00:55:04.900 There's a moral standard here. 0.99

00:55:06.380 Let's just say, for example, that like they made AI that could actually do this shit better 1.00

00:55:11.880 than humans. 1.00

00:55:12.680 Better.

00:55:13.140 Better than humans.

00:55:14.780 There's still a moral standard amongst business owners and customers to A, employ people that 0.99

00:55:20.100 need the jobs and for customers B, to shop with companies that fucking do that. 0.86

00:55:25.300 There's a moral standard there. 0.98

00:55:27.000 I shop. 0.99

00:55:27.920 I try to never shop as much as we joke about like buying on Amazon and all that shit. 0.97

00:55:33.920 Like, dude, I do shop there because it is so fucking good and easy. 0.97

00:55:37.320 They are great at what they do. 0.96

00:55:38.580 No question.

00:55:39.120 But I truly make an effort to buy everything else from either people I know that own companies

00:55:45.160 or people I know that employ real people over the automated way.

00:55:50.860 It's just what I believe in.

00:55:52.420 And I think if every, if people let their dollars speak for them, speak their voices where they

00:55:57.860 spent money, then we'll be in a great spot.

00:56:01.380 We'd be in a good spot.

00:56:02.260 Yeah.

00:56:02.640 I mean, I, you know, people ask all the time, aren't you afraid of Amazon?

00:56:04.980 No, no. 1.00

00:56:05.880 Like fuck dude. 1.00

00:56:06.620 No. 1.00

00:56:06.780 Amazon creates our, our space. 0.78

00:56:08.300 That's our opportunity.

00:56:09.140 That's right.

00:56:09.460 You know, like one day I'm going to sit across from Jeff Bezos and be like, you can't beat 1.00

00:56:12.700 me motherfucker. 1.00

00:56:13.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:56:13.620 Like, you know, you might get it there faster.

00:56:15.420 You can sell it cheaper, but I can connect with people.

00:56:18.020 Like I can't, I know they're, I speak fat.

00:56:20.400 We speak fat.

00:56:20.880 Now dude, look, Amazon's kind of a bad example for that because they, they, they do have a

00:56:24.780 great culture and, and you know, all that, but we're, they represent tech.

00:56:28.640 Correct.

00:56:29.060 That's what we're talking about.

00:56:29.640 The evolution.

00:56:30.240 Yes.

00:56:30.820 And, and efficiency, right?

00:56:32.480 Like our, our inefficiency is. 1.00

00:56:34.320 They fucking run some, they run their business the fucking. 1.00

00:56:37.060 Dude, they're good. 1.00

00:56:37.600 Yeah.

00:56:37.880 It's crazy.

00:56:38.260 They're not even good.

00:56:38.680 They're great.

00:56:39.120 Yeah.

00:56:39.300 They're the best at what they do.

00:56:40.260 That's right.

00:56:40.660 And I'm not hating on that, but what, what we take great pride in is we're at the best

00:56:43.900 of what we do.

00:56:44.640 That's right.

00:56:44.900 Which is helping people.

00:56:46.020 And they, from a humanistic standpoint, which to Andrew's point, like the crave, dude,

00:56:51.320 the crave of like you get on the internet and you're trying to lose weight.

00:56:53.460 Like you don't know who to trust or who to believe, or, you know, do you buy this 0.99

00:56:56.580 wrap or this fucking diet? 1.00

00:56:58.100 We'll call us. 1.00

00:56:59.680 We'll help you.

00:57:00.520 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:57:00.960 We'll help you fucking change your spark plugs. 1.00

00:57:02.720 We'll help you change your life. 0.99

00:57:04.040 We'll help you through the hard times.

00:57:05.500 We'll help you through the good times, like efficiencies and robots will never fix that,

00:57:10.220 you know?

00:57:10.400 And so understanding that-

00:57:11.380 But if they could, if they, I agree, they won't.

00:57:14.200 Right.

00:57:14.440 But if they could, there's still a moral obligation to take care of fellow man.

00:57:20.080 Of course.

00:57:21.080 And I think-

00:57:21.960 And that's not being discussed at all anywhere.

00:57:25.520 I agree.

00:57:26.740 I mean, it's actually, you know, when you look at, you know, how you state that, when you

00:57:31.320 start thinking, I think people would jump on board to that.

00:57:34.560 You know what I mean?

00:57:34.940 I mean, I think you create the movement that people- 0.99

00:57:37.420 Do you know how fucking proud I am to walk back and see these motherfuckers in the back 1.00

00:57:40.900 of our business? 1.00

00:57:41.540 It's the best part of my day.

00:57:42.560 Me too.

00:57:42.920 The meeting I had this morning, I said the best thing, the best, the thing I have the

00:57:45.240 most, the most fulfilling part of my bucket is building young men.

00:57:48.740 Me too.

00:57:49.340 Like I, and I, I've tried to incorporate this model in my brain where, you know- 1.00

00:57:53.760 And women for all you fucking crazy motherfuckers out there are going to write in and say 1.00

00:57:58.720 some shit, like he's fucking misogynist or whatever. 1.00

00:58:02.860 Right. 1.00

00:58:03.500 I, I'm trying to live by this mantra.

00:58:05.200 Like we build the people, the people build the business.

00:58:07.420 You know what I mean?

00:58:07.820 Like I want to create people, you know, the best versions of themselves.

00:58:11.760 And like, that's the best thing that I do is go in and interact with people.

00:58:14.640 Like if I had to pound away on a keyboard all day, dude, I wouldn't do the job. 0.95

00:58:17.760 There's no fucking way. 0.60

00:58:18.540 I want to, I want to have people and watch their lives grow and watch them develop and 0.98

00:58:22.940 watch them get better. 0.96

00:58:23.700 Like that's the best fucking thing that I do, you know? 0.97

00:58:26.120 And so I think we should come together and we should create a movement that supports that. 0.98

00:58:29.800 Well, I think we could do it.

00:58:31.740 Look, I, I think that just bringing awareness, I think when you just talk it out, you know,

00:58:36.700 when people, a lot of the actions of the world are done in ignorance because they don't,

00:58:42.600 people don't understand how their actions create circumstances, you know, that they

00:58:48.460 have to deal with.

00:58:49.600 So I think just talking about, that's what I said.

00:58:52.200 Nobody's even talking about it.

00:58:53.960 I think just talking about that can bring enough awareness where people become more conscious

00:58:57.920 about where they put their money.

00:58:59.800 And I could do a better job at it.

00:59:01.100 You know, I'm thinking in my head, man, I should go to, I should go to Ace True Value

00:59:03.840 Hardware.

00:59:04.420 It's owned by a local guy versus going to Home Depot.

00:59:07.080 You know what I mean?

00:59:07.440 I can do that, you know?

00:59:09.360 I agree.

00:59:09.720 Well, guys, we're talking about changes in technology, advances in technology, changes in culture.

00:59:14.300 A lot of all this stuff leaves the average person kind of scratching their head,

00:59:17.520 a little overwhelmed, a little crazy.

00:59:19.180 They want to go crazy.

00:59:20.040 I think one of the reasons that people listen to this show is that they want to know that

00:59:23.320 they're not crazy.

00:59:25.000 They're not, they're not the only one who thinks the thoughts that they have. 0.88

00:59:27.840 Well, maybe it's that they are crazy and we just happen to be crazy too. 0.93

00:59:32.080 We're the furries.

00:59:33.580 But now I'm going to kind of step out because, you know, you guys have always told me to

00:59:37.320 be a little bit more assertive here.

00:59:39.620 62 miles high.

00:59:40.620 Well, I see that you wore a different shirt this time.

00:59:42.500 I did.

00:59:43.000 I wore it. 1.00

00:59:43.340 You wore your fucking Get Wild sweater. 1.00

00:59:45.140 I did. 1.00

00:59:45.640 This is my Get Wild sweater with the nice little drawstrings.

00:59:48.400 Dude, that's like fancy jeans.

00:59:49.280 That looks like something Bieber would put on.

00:59:50.980 Yeah, you know, me and Bieber, we're tight.

00:59:53.420 Yeah, dude.

00:59:53.820 But no, so I came up with something.

00:59:56.280 Did you see Biebs and Binner?

00:59:57.940 Dude, that was awesome.

00:59:58.720 Oh, that was cool.

00:59:59.500 That was sick, dude.

01:00:00.560 Binner's going to shut him out, though.

01:00:01.620 Oh, yeah.

01:00:02.100 Come on.

01:00:02.720 Jordan Bennington, the Blues goalie. 0.99

01:00:05.180 The best goalie in the fucking NHL. 0.99

01:00:06.660 Yeah, just first year in the league, wins the Stanley Cup. 0.99

01:00:10.080 He challenges Justin Bieber to it because Biebs is like putting all his stuff on about him. 0.99

01:00:13.780 He's got pretty silky hands for a fucking... 1.00

01:00:15.900 He does. 1.00

01:00:16.560 He's pretty smooth.

01:00:17.500 And his hockey again?

01:00:18.240 His IG?

01:00:19.000 His IG?

01:00:20.160 It's a beer league, but still. 1.00

01:00:21.500 Dude, he's fucking Canadian. 1.00

01:00:22.740 I thought he was from Canada. 1.00

01:00:23.880 Every fucking Canadian knows how to play hockey. 1.00

01:00:25.380 I'm telling you, though. 0.99

01:00:26.340 When I saw his first video, I said, well, that's not him.

01:00:29.380 He's filming somebody.

01:00:30.440 Then it was like the video two, three, four.

01:00:32.700 The kid's got some pretty good hands for what I would...

01:00:35.620 He ain't scoring on Bennington.

01:00:36.900 No.

01:00:37.400 Come on.

01:00:38.120 But anyway, Bennington's like...

01:00:39.960 And then Bennington's like, hey, I bet you can't score on me or something.

01:00:42.700 Or it's probably like a little back-end deal.

01:00:44.620 Like, Benner's like, you know, you slide me a stack, dude. 0.99

01:00:48.280 I'll fucking... 0.99

01:00:48.880 Yeah, right. 0.99

01:00:49.380 You know?

01:00:49.940 I guarantee you.

01:00:50.680 Yeah.

01:00:51.140 And Justin Bieber's probably got a few stacks to spare.

01:00:54.540 He's got plenty of stacks.

01:00:55.940 He's got lots of stacks.

01:00:56.960 Yeah.

01:00:57.320 Anyway, for charity, he's like, hey, for 10 grand, you know, charity of choice, you

01:01:00.900 shut me out, I'll pay 10 grand, I score on you, I'll pay...

01:01:03.000 You pay the 10 grand.

01:01:03.460 Out of 10 shots.

01:01:04.440 I like it.

01:01:04.720 10 shots.

01:01:05.220 It was cool.

01:01:05.680 I think it was cool. 0.99

01:01:07.060 I mean, Justin Bieber's a fucking superstar, you know? 0.99

01:01:09.640 Bennington's got... 0.99

01:01:10.120 I thought it was great.

01:01:10.760 Couldn't they come up with some sort of robotic version of that where there weren't real people

01:01:14.560 and do it more efficiently?

01:01:16.140 I mean, I could.

01:01:16.860 Yeah.

01:01:17.200 No.

01:01:17.580 So here's my idea.

01:01:18.820 Was that your attempt at a joke?

01:01:20.060 It was a little bit, but I actually think it was quite good, but Woody is all good. 0.96

01:01:24.180 I'm going to have to change the fucking category of the show. 0.95

01:01:27.520 Okay. 0.98

01:01:27.900 So here's my idea.

01:01:28.700 You can reject it if you want, but I think a lot of our listeners, people who, you know,

01:01:32.900 are with us in body and, well, maybe not body, but mind and spirit, they got questions.

01:01:39.580 So I thought maybe we could start a new thing where we have a hashtag, Confused AF, and people

01:01:45.140 hashtag it on social media, and then they ask their question, Andy, why is the world like

01:01:49.140 this?

01:01:49.400 And then just presents their question.

01:01:51.020 What do you think about that?

01:01:53.100 Does that make sense? 0.99

01:01:53.500 I mean, I'll look through the hashtag, but I have a feeling it's going to piss me the fuck 0.95

01:01:56.500 off.

01:01:56.700 Why wouldn't it be email Vaughn at...

01:01:59.440 Yeah, that's right.

01:02:00.240 There you go.

01:02:00.960 Do it.

01:02:01.240 Do it.

01:02:01.660 Do it.

01:02:01.680 Do it.

01:02:01.700 Do it. 1.00

01:02:02.120 Just tag Vaughn in that shit, motherfuckers. 1.00

01:02:05.040 Hashtag Confused AF. 1.00

01:02:05.940 You're the producer of the show, man.

01:02:07.920 All right, all right, all right, all right. 0.99

01:02:08.400 You fucking sent him to Vaughn. 0.99

01:02:09.460 So tag me, Confused AF, and then ask a question. 1.00

01:02:14.020 That's called booger flicking. 1.00

01:02:15.640 We talked about booger flicking.

01:02:17.720 But use the hashtag Confused AF, and then ask a question that you would like us to discuss on

01:02:24.380 the show.

01:02:24.760 Could be really anything having to do with culture.

01:02:27.180 Could be a crazy question.

01:02:28.360 Could be like, you know, one of those crazy...

01:02:30.340 You know what, dude?

01:02:31.120 I was thinking about this, too.

01:02:32.560 What's that?

01:02:32.920 We definitely need to come up with a good outlet for people to send the topics they want to

01:02:36.540 talk about.

01:02:37.160 Yeah. 0.81

01:02:37.480 Because I've gotten a couple good topics from people, but like, I don't check my shit that

01:02:42.760 much, so I know I'm missing a lot of it.

01:02:44.740 But it would be cool.

01:02:45.780 Like, for the next show, let's create...

01:02:48.860 Hey, you know what?

01:02:49.620 Email Vaughn app.

01:02:50.400 No.

01:02:50.880 Hey, look.

01:02:51.240 Not email.

01:02:51.940 Here it is.

01:02:52.380 You can DM me if you want.

01:02:53.540 No email.

01:02:54.800 Confused AF at AndyFrissella.com.

01:02:57.840 Send us an email.

01:02:58.500 Okay.

01:02:59.000 Great.

01:02:59.380 Confused AF at AndyFrissella.com.

01:03:01.880 And I'll answer it if you hashtag, too.

01:03:04.360 Yeah.

01:03:04.700 That's fine.

01:03:05.540 They want to DM me because I'm so sick of email.

01:03:08.080 That's fine.

01:03:09.140 All right.

01:03:09.520 Well, moving on.

01:03:10.560 Yeah.

01:03:10.880 V-A-U-G-H-N-K-O-H-L-E-R. 1.00

01:03:12.560 What do you want to connect with people?

01:03:15.460 Is that your...

01:03:16.200 Are we done?

01:03:17.340 Are we done?

01:03:17.980 No, no, no, no, no.

01:03:18.840 Well, I don't know.

01:03:19.800 You're trying to get on the road.

01:03:20.420 No, no, no.

01:03:20.800 I know, no, no.

01:03:21.660 I actually have a couple other things.

01:03:23.120 That's what I'm trying to skate out.

01:03:24.660 No, no, no.

01:03:25.020 I have a new feature I want to introduce, but you guys got to roll with it if you want.

01:03:29.740 All right.

01:03:30.020 What's the feature?

01:03:30.720 Okay.

01:03:30.940 The new feature is called Fortune Cookies and Stocking Stuffers.

01:03:33.540 But we have to roll with it.

01:03:35.340 We're the ones that roll with them.

01:03:37.020 Just go with it, dude.

01:03:38.780 All right.

01:03:39.080 So the idea is this is kind of a quick-fire round of truth bombs, recommendations, books,

01:03:46.580 things you're reading lately that have been helpful for you, funny movies, anything.

01:03:49.720 So we're going to start with Jim because we've actually been talking about efficiencies,

01:03:54.680 inefficiencies, all this artificial intelligence.

01:03:57.940 A couple months ago, Andy wrote a post about all the different things that he had learned

01:04:04.160 from you, Jim, and one of them was you're going to make mistakes.

01:04:08.720 So on this round of just quick advice, I want you to unpack that.

01:04:12.960 Why is that something that would stick out in the mind of your son as one of the key things

01:04:16.220 he learned from you?

01:04:16.880 You're going to make mistakes.

01:04:17.900 Why is that even valuable life advice?

01:04:20.580 Well, it's probably one of the most important things you can learn.

01:04:23.480 You're going to make mistakes, and you can't get frustrated by them.

01:04:26.220 You can't do anything but analyze a mistake, look at what you did wrong, and make a plan

01:04:33.200 to move on, to move on, to correct that mistake.

01:04:38.440 And in the world, success is made of mistake after mistake after mistake by smart people

01:04:43.220 who are able to figure out what those mistakes are and how to make another plan.

01:04:48.320 I mean, it's really, really simple.

01:04:49.720 It's as simple as—

01:04:51.200 Why are people so fearful of making mistakes?

01:04:52.440 No, I don't think people understand that it's that simple, what he just said.

01:04:56.540 It's as simple as this. 0.99

01:04:59.560 Dude, you make a mistake, you touch the stove, it fucking burns you. 0.99

01:05:05.160 You don't touch it again. 1.00

01:05:06.820 You go stick your finger in an electrical socket, it fucking shocks you. 1.00

01:05:09.860 I mean, this is how you learn shit. 1.00

01:05:11.480 Well, and I think it's important to know that you— 0.99

01:05:13.140 This is what makes people human, but people are afraid.

01:05:16.280 This goes back to the social pressure thing. 1.00

01:05:18.520 Now people are afraid to look stupid in front of people. 1.00

01:05:21.080 That's what it is. 1.00

01:05:21.900 And what you have to realize is that none of those other motherfuckers that are laughing 1.00

01:05:25.780 at you when you look stupid, they don't know what the fuck they're doing either. 1.00

01:05:28.320 I told Andrew and Sal always, go ahead and do it. 1.00

01:05:32.560 Go ahead and do it.

01:05:33.380 How many times did they tell you, go ahead and stick your finger in the fire?

01:05:35.600 Go ahead and go do that.

01:05:36.560 Yeah.

01:05:36.980 You're the one that's going to suffer.

01:05:38.340 You're going to learn by it.

01:05:39.260 And they learned right away not to do those type of things, at least in front of me anyway.

01:05:46.580 Well, I mean, dude, I don't think people think that, like, getting better is that simple. 0.99

01:05:52.260 Like, I think there's a—this comes from social fucking bullshit again. 0.99

01:05:57.280 There's a fucking segment of people out there who are quote-unquote successful who want 1.00

01:06:03.760 to look like motherfucking Yoda and have every fucking answer to every single detail of every 1.00

01:06:09.100 single thing and act as if they don't ever do anything wrong and they're superhuman and 1.00

01:06:14.360 they're perfect and they're this and they're that.

01:06:16.780 And so what's that create?

01:06:17.940 It creates a scenario where we have people who, when they make a mistake or two, they 0.99

01:06:23.420 think, oh, well, fuck, I must not have it. 0.99

01:06:25.620 I must not have what so-and-so has that's out there and the guru of success. 1.00

01:06:32.740 This is why I hated the entrepreneurship fucking space because I'm so sick of motherfuckers 1.00

01:06:38.160 serving their own ego and pretending like they're perfect so they can fucking feel good 1.00

01:06:44.600 and ruining other humans by pretending to be that way because every time they fuck up now, 1.00

01:06:50.780 they think, well, fuck, dude, I guess I'm not cut out for success. 1.00

01:06:54.540 Like everybody else told me my whole life and I should just go get a job flipping fucking 1.00

01:06:59.820 burgers. 1.00

01:07:00.540 That's what the problem is with it. 0.99

01:07:02.640 And that's why I fucking left that space. 0.99

01:07:04.840 That's why I don't fucking talk. 0.99

01:07:06.580 Dude, when I left the speaking circuit, I was making 125 grand a fucking hour. 0.99

01:07:11.140 Okay. 0.98

01:07:11.740 The reason I fucking don't want to do that is because I don't feel like I want to be a 0.90

01:07:15.660 part of that because I don't, I don't think it's morally okay. 0.95

01:07:19.720 You see what I'm saying?

01:07:20.660 It makes total sense.

01:07:21.220 And it's a social pressure thing.

01:07:22.780 So when people want to, you know, like Sal, you're saying, you know, they're afraid to

01:07:27.660 do this. 0.98

01:07:28.260 Well, fucking right. 0.99

01:07:29.120 They're afraid because they think that if they make a mistake, they're fucking, their 1.00

01:07:33.340 life is over. 0.99

01:07:34.220 Do you understand?

01:07:36.900 Like in their head, look, they're thinking like this. 0.99

01:07:39.740 If I fuck up, it means, dude, if I fuck up, it means I wasn't meant to do this. 0.98

01:07:45.000 And it means I, and they're afraid to find out if they're, if they really were meant to 0.99

01:07:49.380 do it or not.

01:07:50.060 So what do they do?

01:07:51.380 Nothing.

01:07:52.140 Yeah.

01:07:52.320 Because it doesn't hurt right now.

01:07:53.700 The analogy or the advice that I always give people, cause I get asked this question all

01:07:57.220 time.

01:07:57.380 How do you get over the fear of failing?

01:07:58.800 You know, and it's kind of like, well, man, I'll tell you like the best advice that I have

01:08:02.600 is my relationship. 0.95

01:08:04.200 I have fucked so many relationships up and I mean, yeah, that could go another way. 0.98

01:08:09.920 So many fucking relationships up that I learned from each one. 0.99

01:08:13.640 Well, I can't do that. 0.99

01:08:14.560 I can't have more than one girlfriend.

01:08:15.920 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:16.040 I can't fucking do that. 0.97

01:08:16.980 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:08:17.500 That's not what people do, bro. 0.98

01:08:19.100 What people do is they look, now I'm going to fucking get pissed. 0.88

01:08:23.320 So what they actually do. 0.98

01:08:25.460 It's better be pissed off than pissed on.

01:08:26.560 Remember.

01:08:26.920 That's true.

01:08:27.420 Well, there's a, there's people that like that too, though.

01:08:29.440 Yeah, there is.

01:08:30.320 But there's people, dude, there's, all right, I'm not pissed.

01:08:35.960 Hey, you're funny, you laugh.

01:08:37.240 So dude, but the thing is, is like people don't understand that like they, it's you.

01:08:46.120 It's not them. 0.99

01:08:46.980 What you're saying is I fucked up. 0.99

01:08:49.420 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:49.640 I fucked it up. 0.94

01:08:50.980 And people are. 0.97

01:08:51.800 Get a little better.

01:08:52.460 No, but people don't even see that.

01:08:55.020 You know what most people say? 1.00

01:08:56.240 I had a bunch of shitty fucking girlfriends. 1.00

01:08:59.060 Yeah. 1.00

01:08:59.340 And so then they developed a belief that they don't say, hey, even though, dude, I've seen

01:09:04.860 all your relationships and I know it wasn't all you, you know what I'm saying?

01:09:08.380 Yeah, right.

01:09:08.820 People refuse to think that they had anything to do with it.

01:09:13.180 Well, no.

01:09:13.720 And I, I mean.

01:09:14.540 Like how, how could, explain this to me.

01:09:18.460 No, you're right.

01:09:19.440 How could all these bad things keep happening to me?

01:09:23.860 Common denominator.

01:09:24.360 Why does the world hate me?

01:09:26.640 Why, why does, why do I always get in these same situations? 0.99

01:09:31.040 Like at what point do you fucking look at yourself and you say, damn, bro, I guess I'm 1.00

01:09:35.960 fucked up. 1.00

01:09:37.220 Well, and you had to fix it, right? 0.98

01:09:38.960 Like, and I went, you know, and you don't fix it in one sweep, but just like dad said,

01:09:42.260 you get a little better, you fix that part and you get a little better, you know, get

01:09:45.740 a little better, get a little better.

01:09:46.680 And guess what?

01:09:47.020 I got a great marriage. 0.98

01:09:48.000 And I had a lot of fucked up relationships up to that point. 0.98

01:09:50.780 Right. 0.98

01:09:51.020 And I mean, a lot.

01:09:52.620 Yeah, but it ain't always great.

01:09:54.420 No, but you learn.

01:09:55.720 That's the thing is you learn.

01:09:56.860 And you know, you know, it's funny is great.

01:09:58.700 Doesn't mean perfect.

01:09:59.440 I think this is a good point to talk.

01:10:00.800 That's right.

01:10:01.240 Going back to, yeah.

01:10:02.240 Seek, seek getting better, not perfection.

01:10:04.540 And so when you look at, you know, from a relationship standpoint, you know, everybody

01:10:11.140 struggles with what they want out of a relationship and what they're expected to have and what

01:10:15.180 they should have.

01:10:15.700 But I think once I figured out kind of like what I want, you know, and I was just deathly

01:10:19.200 honest about it, when I transitioned, you know, there's probably a transition of people

01:10:24.000 who thought I was a dog for a long time, you know, like all these girls and people like,

01:10:27.340 oh, dude, he's that's Sal.

01:10:29.020 That's and I had to go through that transition in life.

01:10:31.700 I mean, yeah, I know.

01:10:33.000 Rightfully so. 1.00

01:10:33.940 Listen, I fucking take the fucking candle. 0.99

01:10:36.240 I mean, listen, my wife was here today and in front of my old boss, I said, I looked 0.99

01:10:41.720 at her and I said, Ryan knew me when I was a real dog, like when I was a dog.

01:10:44.880 But I had to go through that transition and I had to understand, like, OK, these people 1.00

01:10:48.320 are going to judge me, but that's not who I'm going to be anymore and fuck them. 0.99

01:10:51.520 Like, I'm not because I was there was an expectation like, well, that's Sal. 1.00

01:10:54.300 That's what Sal does.

01:10:55.080 And Sal didn't.

01:10:55.740 That's not what I wanted.

01:10:57.080 I wanted to have a good relationship.

01:10:58.780 And that means I had to change and I wanted to get better.

01:11:01.080 And I had to make adjustments.

01:11:01.800 I had to make adjustments.

01:11:03.020 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:03.240 But see, here's the cool part about taking accountability for your own shit is now you when you start 0.99

01:11:08.860 to do good and you start to stand by your word. 0.99

01:11:10.940 Now you feel good about yourself.

01:11:12.840 Great.

01:11:13.120 And you're you feel better about yourself and you have confidence and you have self

01:11:17.200 esteem and you have self worth.

01:11:19.780 I mean, and that happens in every category of your life.

01:11:22.120 That's right.

01:11:22.580 You know, work.

01:11:23.380 But like my buckets that I talked about last time, like myself, you know, my family, my

01:11:27.740 work and my relationship.

01:11:28.980 Like I you got to do those and all those things. 0.99

01:11:31.120 Otherwise, you ain't going to fucking win. 0.97

01:11:33.540 You know, no, that's good serving somebody else's master. 0.99

01:11:36.100 Dude, this this is why.

01:11:37.540 Look, dude, it come.

01:11:39.120 It comes from the process, the work.

01:11:41.860 Yeah.

01:11:42.000 It's the work that you put in.

01:11:43.900 That's what I do. 0.99

01:11:44.940 I've been saying this for five fucking years to the whole entire world and people just 0.99

01:11:49.480 still don't fucking get it. 0.98

01:11:51.000 Now, people who have done 75 hard to get it now because we finally figured out a program 0.98

01:11:54.780 for people to get it.

01:11:56.160 But. 1.00

01:11:58.100 Dude, your fucking worth comes from your work. 1.00

01:12:01.160 It's the way it is. 0.99

01:12:02.640 And your work doesn't have to be your career. 0.96

01:12:04.360 It's whatever the fuck you're working on, your relationship, your fitness, your relationships 0.99

01:12:08.960 with your friends, your fucking spirituality, this, this, this. 1.00

01:12:12.840 You see what I'm saying? 0.99

01:12:13.700 It goes back to people not understanding context again. 0.99

01:12:17.480 Like just because we're I'm a business guy doesn't mean I'm talking about fucking business 0.99

01:12:21.380 all the time. 0.98

01:12:21.840 I'm talking about life.

01:12:22.840 Do you know how many failed products we've had? 1.00

01:12:24.600 Fuck, dude. 1.00

01:12:25.260 Way more than one. 1.00

01:12:26.880 Like, dude, this.

01:12:27.900 We're going to sell the fuck out of this.

01:12:29.580 Trust me. 0.99

01:12:30.020 I fucking know. 0.98

01:12:30.920 Yeah. 0.99

01:12:31.620 Yeah.

01:12:32.180 You know, and dude, like what?

01:12:33.640 So you just quit?

01:12:35.100 No.

01:12:35.560 You won't go. 0.99

01:12:35.980 What was fucked up about it? 0.99

01:12:36.860 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:37.060 But dude, I don't go on the fuck. 0.99

01:12:38.480 We don't. 0.99

01:12:38.920 That's what people don't get.

01:12:40.180 Like, we don't go on our website or on our Instagram and say, yeah, dude, we made this 0.99

01:12:44.020 product and you fucking hated it. 0.98

01:12:46.140 Like, dude. 0.99

01:12:48.200 We don't.

01:12:49.100 Nobody does that.

01:12:50.080 So you never see it happen. 0.99

01:12:51.240 But it fucking happens every day. 0.99

01:12:53.240 Well, and I made a story the other day, you know, somebody's like, man, you make parenting 1.00

01:12:57.080 look so easy and all this shit, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.96

01:12:59.140 I'm like, well, dude, listen, like, I'm not trying. 0.80

01:13:01.200 That's not what I'm trying to portray.

01:13:02.720 Yeah.

01:13:03.040 I'm trying to be positive.

01:13:04.260 You post that.

01:13:04.920 I was.

01:13:05.220 Yeah.

01:13:05.360 Didn't you post that?

01:13:06.020 Yeah.

01:13:06.220 It was on the weekend.

01:13:06.760 That was a good story.

01:13:07.860 You know, and the guy's like, well, you make parenting look so easy.

01:13:10.580 I struggle with it, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:13:11.680 And I'm like, hey, listen, motherfucker. 1.00

01:13:12.640 I sent a message back. 1.00

01:13:13.580 I struggle. 0.98

01:13:14.720 Parenting's the toughest motherfucking thing I've ever done. 0.98

01:13:16.840 Dude, you know what? 0.99

01:13:17.520 I got.

01:13:17.840 Listen, man, you know, Earl, Emily's dad.

01:13:21.300 Yeah. 0.99

01:13:21.820 He's one of the smartest fucking dudes I've ever met in my life. 0.99

01:13:25.260 Just like you. 0.99

01:13:26.140 I mean, he's the same as you.

01:13:27.220 Amen.

01:13:27.760 Yeah.

01:13:28.160 So he.

01:13:29.200 About me, anyway.

01:13:31.020 You know, there's certain things people say to you that you always remember.

01:13:34.900 Right.

01:13:35.240 You know what I'm saying?

01:13:35.920 And dude, he said to me something one time.

01:13:37.600 I was over there on Easter and we've been, you know, we've been together for like 10 years.

01:13:42.500 So, I mean, I've been over there quite a few times.

01:13:44.540 Probably 12 years.

01:13:45.280 Yeah.

01:13:45.520 I don't even know.

01:13:46.780 Like, I'm going to get people like, how do you not know that?

01:13:49.280 Well, I'll explain it like this. 1.00

01:13:50.720 I have fucking. 0.99

01:13:51.520 Between 10 and 12. 1.00

01:13:52.220 I have 10 megabytes of fucking brain space and a thousand megabytes to deal with. 0.99

01:13:57.000 All right. 0.99

01:13:57.500 So if I don't remember certain things, it's because of that.

01:14:00.760 So, and I don't even know if megabytes is the right thing. 0.97

01:14:04.180 Whatever the fuck it is. 0.97

01:14:05.120 Yeah. 0.99

01:14:05.460 That's what it is.

01:14:06.560 That's what the kids use.

01:14:06.980 Because I'm superhuman, obviously.

01:14:08.760 But he said to me, man, he goes, we were talking because he was in the trucking business.

01:14:13.120 He was successful in the trucking business.

01:14:15.200 And now he does, he's semi-retired, does all farm stuff and has a job that he does and,

01:14:21.260 you know, just to keep him going and stuff like that. 0.99

01:14:23.520 And anyway, fucking smart dude, man. 0.99

01:14:26.420 And I was like, we were talking about the trucking business. 0.99

01:14:28.920 He was asking me, this is back, this is back before we were like.

01:14:32.120 Doing well.

01:14:32.620 Doing well. 0.99

01:14:33.220 Like we were, I was still fucking. 0.98

01:14:35.480 We're moving. 0.99

01:14:35.940 Very broke.

01:14:36.700 Yeah.

01:14:36.820 And I remember he was telling me about the trucking business and I was like, yeah, man. 0.97

01:14:42.300 I'm like, so I'm asking him, cause I'm thinking in my head, like, fuck dude, I wonder if there's 0.97

01:14:46.360 like opportunity to build a trucking company. 0.99

01:14:48.540 Cause he's getting out of it.

01:14:49.780 He was telling me about how he's getting out of it.

01:14:52.200 And I said, well, dude, if it's as simple as getting like some trucks, like I got enough

01:14:56.440 money to get some trucks.

01:14:57.320 Let's get like, like, let's do it together. 1.00

01:14:59.660 I'll do all the work you fuck. 1.00

01:15:00.720 And he looks at me and he goes, everything looks easy from the outside. 1.00

01:15:04.600 Oh yeah. 0.95

01:15:05.440 And I never fucking forgot that. 0.69

01:15:07.300 Like I immediately thought about like, cause I know him and I know his demeanor. 0.92

01:15:10.520 You guys know that when he says that there's a lot more depth behind it.

01:15:14.200 You don't even ask a question.

01:15:15.140 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:15.240 He's just saying like, shut the fuck up. 0.99

01:15:18.280 So yeah. 1.00

01:15:19.000 You young punk.

01:15:19.740 Yeah, exactly.

01:15:20.600 But dude, that stuck with me, man, because that was the perception I had.

01:15:24.920 And now I look at everything that way.

01:15:27.240 Like I look at everything that looks easy.

01:15:29.600 And I remember that he said that that's really been, I would say one of the top key pieces

01:15:34.120 of advice I've gotten in my, in my life from that conversation.

01:15:37.240 Dude, I mean, special things, right?

01:15:38.880 I think we're desensitized that because social media allows so much instant access and you

01:15:43.580 see all the glory, it takes, it removes the work. 0.99

01:15:46.980 Some people, like I said earlier, dude, some of these motherfuckers on social, all they want 1.00

01:15:50.180 to show is the glory. 0.99

01:15:51.380 Oh man.

01:15:52.400 All they want to show is that. 1.00

01:15:53.540 They want to show the crowds clapping and the cheering, or some guys want to show the fucking, 0.99

01:15:57.960 the watch or the house or the cars. 1.00

01:16:00.220 Of course, no one's out there showing the fucking times where you're like, fuck dude, 1.00

01:16:04.100 you know what? 1.00

01:16:04.500 I think today's the day I'm going to blow my fucking brains out. 1.00

01:16:06.920 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:07.180 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:16:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:08.160 Like nobody shows that shit. 0.99

01:16:09.620 Well, and I'm going to tell you that is like, I've spent a lot of times at two o'clock 1.00

01:16:14.360 in the morning drunk as a fucking skunk. 0.99

01:16:15.900 Wonder if I'm doing the right thing. 1.00

01:16:17.420 Yeah.

01:16:18.040 And I'm not talking about Saturday night.

01:16:19.640 I'm talking about Tuesday night.

01:16:20.980 Yeah. 0.96

01:16:21.740 Dude, look, man, that's a, that's a fucking, I mean, clearly we're doing the right thing too. 0.96

01:16:25.740 In those times though, that's when people are like, you know, that they're, you know, 0.98

01:16:28.740 they, they, they attack the simplicity of it.

01:16:31.200 Yeah.

01:16:31.340 But dude, think about this.

01:16:33.320 We're, and we're winning. 0.97

01:16:35.600 So, I mean, think of what it's like for someone who's really fucking struggling. 0.97

01:16:38.660 No. 0.98

01:16:39.100 Yeah.

01:16:39.540 Dude.

01:16:39.740 I mean, you know, life is, is a journey just like the journey for a diet and going through

01:16:45.940 the whole process of dieting your whole life and changing the way that, that you look

01:16:51.280 at a diet versus a journey that we teach to everybody.

01:16:54.280 And, and, and, and that's what it's about.

01:16:55.960 It is a journey and it's hard.

01:16:57.120 It's not easy.

01:16:58.400 And, and, uh, do my story today on Instagram.

01:17:01.940 Did you see it?

01:17:02.660 No.

01:17:03.020 Oh, well, it was just about what you're talking about.

01:17:05.180 It, it, it, it's a journey and it's a long journey and, and you, you got to keep your eyes

01:17:09.360 focused.

01:17:09.820 You got to do good things.

01:17:10.760 You always do what's right.

01:17:11.680 You know, all the things that you heard, you have to.

01:17:14.660 And you learn by your mistakes and you, you look at them and you just move on, you move

01:17:19.800 on, you learn by them and you move on next, next, next.

01:17:23.720 And, uh, uh, if you sit and look around, there's nobody going to do it, but you.

01:17:28.720 No, that's it.

01:17:29.700 That's what it comes down to. 0.99

01:17:30.840 And people don't really, they don't like hearing that shit because they want it to be, they want 0.99

01:17:36.340 the, they're, they're so busy looking for the hack that they miss the hack is actually 0.99

01:17:42.340 just doing it.

01:17:43.380 You know what I mean?

01:17:44.660 And that's what, that's what hack is doing it.

01:17:46.720 Yeah.

01:17:46.940 I like it.

01:17:47.380 It's the truth.

01:17:48.160 I like it.

01:17:49.360 Well, I had some, uh, a couple just closing very, very, very practical questions.

01:17:54.180 And Jim, you're from another time, like what, the 1800s, late 1800s.

01:17:59.160 Oh yeah.

01:17:59.840 I noticed you, but I do know that, uh, I do know that somebody's getting funny.

01:18:04.240 I do know that Mr.

01:18:05.560 Vonnie Holmes.

01:18:06.320 I noticed you, you, you shaved your head.

01:18:08.720 I mean, you cut your hair again today.

01:18:10.140 No, but, uh, one thing that I do love is that, uh, when I talked to somebody like you, you

01:18:16.860 know, grand old man that you are, uh, I do know a lot.

01:18:20.580 You do, you do know a lot.

01:18:22.060 And, and, and I know that, uh, Andy's a big reader, Sal's a reader.

01:18:25.800 We all have different, you know, levels at which we read and speeds at which we read.

01:18:29.380 But I know back in the day you were a great reader.

01:18:31.280 What's a, what's a book that you read in your prime that you think is still valuable for

01:18:37.400 people to read, to read now?

01:18:39.140 I, I still think maybe the best book I ever read and, and it is relevant, but it's still

01:18:44.780 Sam Walton's book is autobiography.

01:18:47.220 I've read it 20 times.

01:18:49.440 That's the first book I ever read and there's no other way of reading it, but to read it

01:18:53.920 and read it over and over again.

01:18:55.120 And it's just a simple story.

01:18:56.420 It's really a simple story of a man that just worked hard and use common sense and never

01:19:01.980 gave up and just went forward, forward, forward.

01:19:04.660 He had lots of failures.

01:19:05.600 He was bankrupt 20 times.

01:19:07.280 He gave all of, all of his key customers when he went bankrupt, he didn't get paid for a

01:19:12.680 year or two years.

01:19:13.880 He gave them stock.

01:19:15.120 They stuck with him and they all became multi, multi.

01:19:19.440 Mega millionaires.

01:19:20.500 I mean, a hundred people, 200 people.

01:19:22.480 It's seriously like the best book ever.

01:19:24.540 It's very, very simple.

01:19:26.280 Yeah.

01:19:26.760 And it, it relates to today.

01:19:29.540 Nothing's different.

01:19:30.300 This, this, this is the same story that's right here.

01:19:33.280 It started in back on Campbell street and it started slow.

01:19:36.660 And, and, and, and it, it, there was times when Andrew came to me and said, I'm not doing

01:19:41.420 this no more.

01:19:42.180 I can't do it every week.

01:19:44.180 No.

01:19:44.540 Yeah.

01:19:44.700 But I'm talking back when it was, it was nickels and dimes.

01:19:47.280 And I said, what the fuck else, you know, and sometimes it still comes down to what you 0.99

01:19:53.040 know, what the fuck do you know? 0.98

01:19:56.080 No, but it's, it's, it's a journey and it's a journey and it's a long journey. 0.99

01:20:00.740 It's not short.

01:20:01.680 You know, the, I always tell the story of the rabbit in the hair.

01:20:04.460 I'm not going to tell it here, but, uh, to these young guys out here, I mean, I talked

01:20:09.080 to all those young guys at some time or another, and it's about them.

01:20:12.240 It's what you said, Sal, about teaching them their own value and, and learning how to do

01:20:18.280 it.

01:20:18.420 Everybody wants to work smart or thinks they're, thinks they're smart.

01:20:21.140 They all think they work hard back there.

01:20:22.680 They all think they're the hardest workers in the world and you got to learn how, how

01:20:27.260 from somebody that's done it.

01:20:28.680 Some old person, a book, some, somewhere you have to learn right here.

01:20:34.760 And I tell these guys all the time, the, the, the meeting we had last Monday here with

01:20:39.100 Andrew and Sal back to back.

01:20:40.700 And if you guys didn't get together on it, you were mentally together on it.

01:20:44.080 It was, it was the best talk ever.

01:20:45.680 And I went, I went outside and told those guys, Hey, this is about you.

01:20:48.820 You should pay each one.

01:20:50.000 Each one of you guys should pay Andrew and Sal 500 bucks for listening.

01:20:52.680 No, that's what I tell them.

01:20:55.000 I say, you gotta be, you should be paying them.

01:20:56.540 It is interesting.

01:20:57.520 Sometimes I'll do say, Oh, I get it.

01:21:00.120 I get it.

01:21:00.440 I get it.

01:21:00.840 I get it.

01:21:01.060 I don't know if they do, but that's fine.

01:21:03.300 Because dude, you can't understand something that you don't have the perspective to understand.

01:21:08.360 There's few guys that get those kinds of things.

01:21:11.300 There's other guys who hear it and just do it because the guys that get it are doing it.

01:21:17.260 And then there's a few guys that are always going to fall off.

01:21:19.660 And what happens is the guys who get it from the beginning will lead the guys who don't

01:21:24.720 get it, but are just following.

01:21:26.060 And eventually those guys who are following will become leaders and it progresses naturally

01:21:29.640 that way.

01:21:30.260 Yeah.

01:21:30.540 That's just how it works.

01:21:31.740 Yeah.

01:21:32.160 So.

01:21:33.080 So with you, dude, uh, what's 10, what's something that somebody could take 10 minutes of their

01:21:37.360 life this week that, that will improve the overall quality of their life?

01:21:41.900 10 minutes, 10 minutes. 1.00

01:21:45.280 Fuck. 1.00

01:21:45.700 I don't know, man. 1.00

01:21:46.480 Or maybe, maybe half an hour.

01:21:48.860 Dude.

01:21:49.360 I mean, look, I think the best thing that you can do, this is the best thing for me.

01:21:54.140 I, I can't speak for everybody, but I can say for me.

01:21:57.360 So I have a natural tendency to not like people like a lot.

01:22:02.720 It's just, dude, it comes with the territory.

01:22:04.760 Like when you deal with a certain, I deal with mass numbers of people, right? 1.00

01:22:10.000 So when you deal with mass numbers of people, the, the percentage of dumb motherfuckers that 0.99

01:22:14.400 you have to deal with is exponentially larger than an average person. 1.00

01:22:17.340 So you're, I'm dealing with a lot more fucking of the shit that everybody hates all the time 1.00

01:22:22.820 just by sheer volume. 0.99

01:22:24.540 So the thing that I try to do that really helps me feel better is that I try to talk

01:22:31.160 to people. 0.99

01:22:31.640 This sounds stupid as fuck, but it's what I do. 1.00

01:22:33.860 I try to talk to people I never met before and have a conversation with them because it 1.00

01:22:39.020 makes me feel that people are good.

01:22:41.620 You know what I'm saying?

01:22:42.920 And cause like if I have someone like, cause I drive cool cars and stuff all the time.

01:22:47.340 I'm a, if you don't know, I'm a huge car guy, uh, slash collector slash enthusiast or

01:22:51.960 whatever you want to call it.

01:22:52.820 So when I drive my cars all over, I'll have, I'll always have people to make comments and

01:22:57.640 they'll say, Hey, that's a cool car, this or that.

01:22:59.740 And I always try to talk to them.

01:23:01.320 I'll shake their hand and I'll say, Hey, well, what was your favorite car and have a 0.97

01:23:04.700 conversation and people always end up like walking away super fucking happy. 0.88

01:23:10.020 Like you just met another, and you know, obviously during the conversation, I'm going to 0.77

01:23:15.240 introduce myself.

01:23:15.900 So I made another fan of me in the meantime.

01:23:18.560 So it's practical too, but the point though, I do it for selfish reasons, not because I 0.89

01:23:24.020 get a fan, but, or a supporter or a customer, but because it makes me fucking have faith in 0.99

01:23:29.900 humanity when I am inundated with fucking nonsense all the time. 0.99

01:23:35.340 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

01:23:36.180 So I think if you're struggling, one of the most effective things you can do.

01:23:39.860 And one of the things I tell my buddies who asked me like when they're struggling, what to

01:23:43.040 do is a tool that I used to do, uh, to get good in business actually.

01:23:47.660 And what I would do was I would go to my local grocery store here and we would, I would go

01:23:52.700 in there and I would make myself talk to three people that I didn't know.

01:23:56.600 Okay.

01:23:56.960 So I would have to initiate three conversations randomly.

01:23:59.940 And I know this sounds weird.

01:24:01.120 If you're like listening, you're like, why this sounds fucking weird, but I did this

01:24:04.780 for a number of reasons.

01:24:06.060 One, it helped me approach people.

01:24:09.000 It helped me better with make, get better with people.

01:24:11.040 Two, it made me less afraid to approach people in any scenario, including my social life.

01:24:16.080 Three, um, it was, it made me feel good because it's always cool to have an interaction with

01:24:21.200 someone you don't know and it ends up going well.

01:24:23.080 So I did it as practice because I'm not naturally good with people. 0.56

01:24:27.100 So if you say, well, what can someone do 30 minutes a week that makes a fucking huge difference

01:24:32.020 in how they see the world?

01:24:33.220 That's what I would recommend because I think it really helps you not just develop skills and

01:24:38.460 it's good for your business, your personal brand, whatever it is that you do.

01:24:41.520 But man, it really makes you feel good to know that like there's random people out there 0.99

01:24:45.640 that are just cool as fuck. 0.96

01:24:47.100 Like Dave, when we met those dudes at the photo shoot, we, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:24:50.520 We met these two guys who were, uh, me and Madot and Dave were down there shooting pictures

01:24:54.540 at the new warehouse.

01:24:55.320 And we met a couple of guys who were operators.

01:24:57.940 We never met before.

01:24:58.900 They didn't look like us. 0.63

01:25:00.180 They didn't talk like us. 1.00

01:25:01.820 They were fucking nothing like us. 1.00

01:25:03.820 All right. 1.00

01:25:04.880 But they're huge car fanatics.

01:25:06.640 And they came over and they asked if they could see the car.

01:25:09.300 And I'm like, yeah.

01:25:09.960 And we started talking to them and guess what? 0.99

01:25:11.820 They were cool as shit. 0.96

01:25:13.180 And they had all kinds of cool stories. 0.96

01:25:15.080 And we all three walked away at the end and we, we didn't say, oh dude, we got all these

01:25:19.160 cool pictures.

01:25:20.060 Oh, we got this or that. 1.00

01:25:21.280 We said, damn dude, that was fucking cool. 0.99

01:25:23.420 And it wasn't because those guys were cool. 0.99

01:25:26.360 We were saying it was cool that we met people that were so different than us that ended up

01:25:31.500 having so much in common.

01:25:32.960 So that's what I would say with 30 minutes of your time.

01:25:35.380 I love it, man.

01:25:37.060 Go ahead, Jim.

01:25:38.060 Yeah.

01:25:38.280 I want to comment, comment on this because I get asked this all the time.

01:25:42.980 Frequently.

01:25:43.380 Like really?

01:25:43.980 Is this like, is this like how people do on Instagram where they say, everybody's been

01:25:47.920 asking, but nobody asked.

01:25:49.340 No, no.

01:25:49.620 Over the years, no.

01:25:51.360 Ego.

01:25:51.640 This would even be a topic to talk about.

01:25:53.760 Like some people actually ask you this.

01:25:55.860 Yeah.

01:25:56.100 Oh yeah.

01:25:56.380 Okay.

01:25:56.780 All right.

01:25:57.660 In this frame, it's not the exact question, but it's close.

01:26:00.920 What's the difference between Andrew and Sal?

01:26:03.680 And I always tell them nothing.

01:26:05.580 They're, they're, they're very, very, they're, they're so similar.

01:26:07.840 It's not funny.

01:26:09.500 And I said, the main difference is, is Andrew acts like he doesn't like people, but he really

01:26:14.080 does.

01:26:14.660 And when he gets into sales mode, he's as good as Sal is.

01:26:17.520 Now you guys can just dispute that, you know, back and forth.

01:26:20.540 He's already going to shoot me for saying that, but no, it is the same. 0.96

01:26:24.460 How would I shoot you? 0.94

01:26:25.360 No, I think that's a good assessment. 0.97

01:26:26.840 I don't think that's unfair.

01:26:27.820 Yeah.

01:26:28.140 I think that's a good assessment.

01:26:29.160 Very, very, very.

01:26:29.680 No, you're completely different. 1.00

01:26:30.120 I do that to keep motherfuckers away from me that are fucking annoying. 1.00

01:26:33.220 Well, you know what I mean. 1.00

01:26:34.480 Yeah.

01:26:34.700 So that, and I think, I think you can have two different, two different people can both

01:26:38.280 like people, but you can have, one can be an introvert who's actually, I actually will

01:26:43.140 say, I actually would say, because I was, believe it or not, I was thinking about this

01:26:47.260 this morning when I was working out because today was one of those days where I made it

01:26:50.180 a point to talk to people like actually what I'm talking about.

01:26:53.120 I was actually thinking, if I'm being completely transparent and honest, I think I thought that

01:26:59.520 I didn't like people.

01:27:01.440 I don't think I was pretending.

01:27:02.740 I think I actually believe that until I realized like recently, more recently in my life that

01:27:08.600 I'm like, actually, dude, I really like people a lot. 1.00

01:27:11.820 I just don't like dumb motherfuckers. 1.00

01:27:14.120 Well, and I think there's a lot of them out there. 1.00

01:27:16.200 There is a, well, that's what I said.

01:27:18.040 So now I look at it a little bit differently.

01:27:19.600 I look at it instead of, so, so I'm, do you understand what I'm saying?

01:27:23.840 Because I'm exposed to more people, I'm exposed to more of that by, by just numbers.

01:27:29.140 But I like what you were saying.

01:27:30.220 I think I've broken, I've broken this down.

01:27:31.960 I've just not understood it before.

01:27:34.300 Yeah, it makes sense.

01:27:35.320 And what I like about what you were saying is that because there are a lot of people out

01:27:39.320 there, not, maybe not the majority, but the, it always seems like the people that are the 0.98

01:27:43.420 dumbest are the loudest and they get the most attention. 0.96

01:27:45.920 So we actually have to be intentional about finding the good people. 0.98

01:27:49.100 I love people that bring value. 0.98

01:27:50.680 And now I'm not talking about value, like buy me a fucking steak or drive me or give me 0.71

01:27:56.080 something or take my, I'm talking about, if you're going to talk to me, talk to me about 0.97

01:28:00.540 something that's relevant or cool or like we can both talk about, like, don't just stand 1.00

01:28:07.480 there and like, look at me and say some dumb ass shit. 1.00

01:28:10.820 Yeah. 1.00

01:28:11.040 Like I'm not fucking, I'm a regular motherfucker. 1.00

01:28:14.220 Andrew, those are, those are adder people. 1.00

01:28:15.780 There's takers and there's adders.

01:28:17.160 You're talking about adder people.

01:28:18.300 Those adder people are always fun.

01:28:19.860 The adder people are always fun to talk to and they're adders, not a taker.

01:28:24.840 Dude, I sent him a, dude, I sent Sal a screenshot last night, like four or five times a day.

01:28:31.200 This is just for an example.

01:28:32.580 I sent it to you too, didn't I? 0.99

01:28:34.180 So four or five times a day, I get a fucking email or a fucking DM of someone that has painted 0.99

01:28:41.580 this fucking huge, like life altering story about their life. 0.99

01:28:48.300 Which is essentially like a sales pitch that they need money. 1.00

01:28:51.840 I get it all the time.

01:28:53.680 And it's just like, like.

01:28:56.900 Well, that was my, that was where my point was going to go is like, I genuinely love people,

01:29:02.260 but I understand because, and I, and I, you know, seen it from, from the perspective of

01:29:08.040 when people are always trying to take and take and take.

01:29:11.000 Which happens, which when you're exposed to more people and people know that you're somebody

01:29:14.540 who.

01:29:15.220 Well, and I've struggled with this lately because like, you know, I'm, I'm building the new building 0.99

01:29:19.300 and I have to deal with all the people, the high volumes of people that just want shit 0.99

01:29:23.220 from you. 0.99

01:29:23.640 Now they're your best friend because you can give something to them.

01:29:26.540 You know, and it, it, it wears on you.

01:29:28.780 That part gets old.

01:29:29.720 Oh bro. 0.99

01:29:30.300 You know how many motherfuckers I've heard from in the last six months because we're building 1.00

01:29:34.220 that building. 1.00

01:29:34.720 It's the same as you, everybody who, when we were fucking trying, when we were struggling, 1.00

01:29:39.640 couldn't find any motherfucking customers. 1.00

01:29:41.740 Where were these motherfuckers? 1.00

01:29:43.320 Right. 1.00

01:29:43.760 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:29:44.300 But now that we can, now we're building a fucking $30 million building and they got 0.99

01:29:49.100 a business that runs this. 0.99

01:29:50.720 They want us to like, they expect it. 1.00

01:29:53.380 And if we don't do it, you're, you're, you guys are assholes. 1.00

01:29:55.960 No motherfucker. 1.00

01:29:56.980 We just have a long memory. 0.99

01:29:58.340 Well, and that's why I like what I've learned that I really love about people is I love people

01:30:02.620 that don't know who I am or don't know what we do or don't know.

01:30:06.940 I do too.

01:30:07.400 And you really, that's the best kind.

01:30:08.820 That's the, the thing that, you know, when you sit down and you really start to see struggles

01:30:12.320 that other people face and you get to have commonality and you get to really have and

01:30:15.540 understand their struggles and then help, you know, talk through them.

01:30:18.260 And then you build that bond.

01:30:19.980 Like to me, that's what you crave.

01:30:22.200 That's what like the randomness and the, I mean, you know that I do like the randomness

01:30:25.160 of talking to people. 0.99

01:30:25.840 I'll talk to fucking anybody. 0.99

01:30:26.660 Dude, I can remember specific conversations that would otherwise be meanless conversations 1.00

01:30:31.640 with people that I never met only because they don't know who the fuck I am and they 0.98

01:30:37.080 talk genuinely to me. 0.96

01:30:38.340 Way more authentic conversation.

01:30:39.480 No.

01:30:39.780 So like I'm going to tell you an example.

01:30:41.240 So I remember this year when I was in Idaho, in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho for Arte Syndicate. 0.91

01:30:46.500 And the first day we got there, we went out on the fucking patio because we got there like 0.94

01:30:51.200 three hours before we could get into our rooms. 0.99

01:30:53.200 There's all kinds of people that are in our group out there.

01:30:55.960 And there was a couple in the corner that were not in our group.

01:30:59.100 And so I was standing between the couple and the group and the guy who was over there, 1.00

01:31:05.020 he's like, Hey, what the fuck is all this shit, man? 0.99

01:31:08.580 Everybody like all these people, they're all wearing the shirts. 1.00

01:31:11.600 And what is that thing?

01:31:12.620 What is that?

01:31:13.560 And I'm like, well, it's, you know, it's a, it's a business group.

01:31:15.780 And I explained it to him and I, and he's like, Oh, so why did you join?

01:31:19.240 He didn't know that like it was my group and Ed's group. 0.99

01:31:22.320 He just thought I was a dude that was there to learn some shit. 0.97

01:31:24.920 So I just played along and I'm like, well, you know, we learned this and this and this. 1.00

01:31:28.400 And he's like, fuck, that's really cool. 0.99

01:31:30.360 And dude, I never told him like, Hey, like, you know, I'm the fucking guy. 1.00

01:31:35.480 Like I never did that shit. 0.99

01:31:37.080 And he started telling me about Tarzan stuff. 0.99

01:31:39.380 No, dude, I was just keeping it cool.

01:31:41.380 And it was really cool because like he was telling me all about, um, you know, his family

01:31:46.960 and his, and he ended up being an entrepreneur and there's a lot of wealthy people at that

01:31:50.980 lake. 0.99

01:31:51.240 And, uh, he was telling me about all the shit he did. 0.99

01:31:53.600 And we had an awesome conversation just about like bullshit, you know, and his name was Jim. 0.99

01:31:59.340 I remembered a guy's name, you know, and we sat there and we talked and, and I, but I,

01:32:03.360 those conversations are so rare for me at this point that conversations that don't have an

01:32:08.940 agenda of some sort or a context of some sort that deals with me either controlling or directing

01:32:15.840 someone's future or paying them or, or benefiting them in some sort, like, dude, I don't have

01:32:23.040 them.

01:32:23.400 And so like, they stand out to me because of that, you know?

01:32:26.360 And, and that's why I know the value in it.

01:32:28.680 And that's why when you said 30 minutes, what would I do? 1.00

01:32:31.820 Well, fuck, I'm going to go find some random motherfuckers. 1.00

01:32:33.780 I don't know, talk to you so I can remember that there's some nice people out there. 1.00

01:32:38.160 Yeah.

01:32:38.680 You know, good stuff.

01:32:40.020 I think, uh, I think we should probably end on that.

01:32:42.340 But, uh, before we do, Sal, how do you keep your marriage romantic?

01:32:48.260 Take them to hotel rooms, babe. 1.00

01:32:49.820 All right.

01:32:50.420 Well, I think we already answered that, didn't we?

01:32:52.480 More hotels, more often.

01:32:54.300 I like hotels. 0.99

01:32:55.840 Sex on the beach. 0.99

01:32:56.720 That's why they call it the hotel. 0.94

01:33:00.880 Vaughn, what are you going to ask me that question?

01:33:02.500 Vaughn, hey, listen.

01:33:03.320 No, I'm not going to ask you that question.

01:33:05.100 We should, you know, what's funny is he talks about how he learns from all his mistakes. 0.99

01:33:08.740 He, he, he, he fucking failed on that one. 0.96

01:33:11.180 But, no, no, I'm, I'm a total, total success now. 0.98

01:33:15.980 Oh, yeah.

01:33:16.220 I learned.

01:33:16.840 Well, there you go.

01:33:17.300 I'm not anti-marriage.

01:33:18.160 I'm not anti-marriage.

01:33:18.900 Marriage is really, really great.

01:33:20.460 But I haven't been married since 1985, so.

01:33:23.340 Who's counting?

01:33:24.900 It's probably the only date he remembers.

01:33:26.260 He doesn't know your birthday.

01:33:27.060 He doesn't know my birthday. 1.00

01:33:27.840 But he knows that fucking day. 1.00

01:33:29.280 I was married twice. 1.00

01:33:30.260 It cost me a lot of money both times.

01:33:31.660 And it ain't going to cost me no more money.

01:33:35.420 So, number three.

01:33:36.880 Hey, wait.

01:33:37.320 Don't you have a song about this?

01:33:38.600 Yeah.

01:33:38.860 Yeah, give me some money.

01:33:40.840 Give me some money for me, me, me, me.

01:33:43.000 Not you, you, you.

01:33:43.840 Give me some money.

01:33:46.280 But I do, I think there is a lesson. 0.98

01:33:48.940 By the way, that song is fucking famous in these parts. 0.98

01:33:51.820 Yes. 0.99

01:33:53.080 There's a lesson here.

01:33:54.040 You know, we grew up in, we didn't grow up in like a bad, you know, abusive, divorced

01:33:58.800 childhood state, which a lot of people do.

01:34:00.960 But, you know, in my life, like I didn't want to be divorced.

01:34:03.920 And I wanted to raise.

01:34:04.780 No, but we did grow up in a divorced family.

01:34:06.760 No, no, no.

01:34:07.060 Of course.

01:34:07.460 No, I'm saying.

01:34:08.320 The way you said that made it sound like we didn't grow up.

01:34:10.780 Sorry.

01:34:11.080 Yeah, we grew up.

01:34:11.580 I don't have, I really only have one or two memories of my mom and dad being together.

01:34:14.460 So, I don't really even know it any differently.

01:34:15.780 Right.

01:34:15.880 But like, I think for me, you know, I think this is a product of environment, you know,

01:34:20.440 just because you grew up one way, it doesn't mean you have to be that way, you know?

01:34:23.960 And so like, I always wanted to be married and, you know, and be in that household environment

01:34:29.160 and raise my kids and do all that stuff.

01:34:31.060 It's not how I was raised, but it's what I wanted.

01:34:33.260 And so I had to make that change.

01:34:34.460 And so, you know, I hate to say it, but the teacher of being a dog is sitting to my left.

01:34:39.800 He taught me the basics on how to be a dog.

01:34:43.440 I learned the basics.

01:34:45.120 Yeah.

01:34:45.820 I got the Arte version of dog by the time I was about 16.

01:34:51.420 I thought it was a rabbit.

01:34:52.560 Yeah, whatever.

01:34:53.740 But, you know, then I realized, hey, I had to make a change.

01:34:56.300 You know what I mean?

01:34:56.660 I had to get uncomfortable, make an adjustment and then go that way, you know?

01:34:59.480 And so I think it's a good lesson for just because X, Y, Z does not mean that's what you have to be.

01:35:05.220 Well, I think it alternates generations.

01:35:07.100 I mean, dude, if you look at like even like wealth, like wealth alternates generations.

01:35:11.780 It's pretty, it's actually like you can look it up and see it.

01:35:14.820 If people are self-made, they, the second generation business usually fucks it up. 0.99

01:35:20.780 And then the people, their kids see it fucked up. 0.99

01:35:23.740 And these kids say, I'm not going to fuck that up. 0.99

01:35:26.000 And they go out and create it again. 0.88

01:35:27.440 And it alternates.

01:35:28.360 That's typically how that works.

01:35:30.820 It also seems to work like that.

01:35:32.660 I don't know the stats, so I could be fucking totally wrong, but with divorce.

01:35:37.420 I see a lot of people who have happily married parents, they end up with divorces.

01:35:43.560 Then the kids of theirs end up not wanting to divorce.

01:35:47.120 So they end up with the happily married situation.

01:35:50.080 You see what I'm saying?

01:35:50.680 Yeah.

01:35:50.860 I see a lot of that.

01:35:51.820 I don't know how, what the statistics are or anything like that.

01:35:54.980 But I mean, it's an observation that I noticed in real life.

01:35:58.540 Yeah.

01:35:59.100 And obviously you would agree that if you happen to be the son or daughter of a happily married couple,

01:36:04.340 it doesn't mean you absolutely have to get divorced.

01:36:06.600 Yeah.

01:36:07.680 No, it would be interesting to see the stats on that.

01:36:10.380 Yeah.

01:36:10.560 I was going to say to kind of get myself out of hot water here if I am.

01:36:14.980 You don't have to justify yourself.

01:36:16.140 Hey, you did good.

01:36:17.140 But my last girlfriend, I've been with the girl I've been with now for 20 years, and

01:36:21.740 I could easily have divorced her a couple of times.

01:36:23.920 Oh, yeah.

01:36:24.320 I'm going to say that.

01:36:25.100 I think you tried to.

01:36:26.220 Well, I think once you're-

01:36:26.980 No, I'm not married to her, but that's not it.

01:36:29.240 She tried to divorce you, and you went crawling back.

01:36:31.640 Yeah, I would have.

01:36:32.240 Do you remember that time, Sal, when he got home from Nashville, and he went in the house, 0.99

01:36:37.380 and Wendy packed up all his shit, told him to get the fuck out of his own house? 0.99

01:36:40.000 I remember like it was yesterday. 1.00

01:36:42.580 Oh, yeah.

01:36:43.200 Yeah, that's what happened.

01:36:44.640 I remember getting her phone call, somebody all panicky, panicky.

01:36:47.620 Yeah.

01:36:48.460 What are you putting on Facebook?

01:36:51.440 Dad, I don't even know what you're talking about. 0.99

01:36:53.160 Look, he's fucking freezing up. 1.00

01:36:54.340 No, none of this shit happened. 0.99

01:36:55.460 They're making that stuff happen. 1.00

01:36:57.280 They're making that as bullshit, man. 0.99

01:36:58.780 Jim, I just fact-checked it. 0.99

01:36:59.940 That's true.

01:37:03.480 I got something for you.

01:37:04.620 I can't say it on radio.

01:37:06.720 We're not on the radio.

01:37:07.980 I can't say it on the internet.

01:37:09.880 Send you a telegram.

01:37:10.980 If this point hasn't been made already in the course of this conversation, obviously-

01:37:14.780 I've changed my ways.

01:37:15.740 Human beings are complex creatures, and we're not going to be good at everything.

01:37:20.060 We're going to excel in certain aspects of our lives, and there's going to be other

01:37:24.320 areas of our lives that are areas of growth.

01:37:26.560 You should always be growing.

01:37:27.560 Yeah, you should always be growing.

01:37:29.180 Speaking of growing, I've got a new feature on andyfricella.com that you can maybe drop

01:37:35.280 some information for the people.

01:37:37.260 The Andygram?

01:37:37.620 The Andygram.

01:37:38.640 Oh, the Andygram.

01:37:39.940 Yeah, man.

01:37:40.540 That's cool.

01:37:41.700 Yeah.

01:37:41.840 So, basically, it's my new blog platform that I'm going to be posting all my meaningful

01:37:46.580 content on.

01:37:48.520 I'm tired of the things I write on Instagram and the videos I post.

01:37:52.780 I don't feel like Instagram is favorable.

01:37:55.060 I know for a fact they're not favorable towards my style of content.

01:37:58.600 But, and so, I just pull it on, put it over on the blog, and I'm going to deliver it to

01:38:04.160 people every day.

01:38:05.320 And, you know, it's just the same kind of stuff, but evolved.

01:38:09.060 You know, the stuff that you guys are used to seeing is four and five years old.

01:38:12.680 You know, there's a new skill here.

01:38:15.800 I've practiced a little bit over the time.

01:38:17.920 And I'm really excited about the content I'm going to be putting on that platform. 0.99

01:38:21.060 So, if you're into the personal development, I want to learn how to fucking win shit, which 0.97

01:38:26.520 is the MFCEO project. 0.97

01:38:28.500 You know, a lot of similar content over there, but also mixed with our kind of content here. 0.97

01:38:33.100 You know, just real life shit.

01:38:34.040 More so, dude, just kind of think of it like a blog, but with pictures and videos and stuff. 1.00

01:38:38.800 And, basically, it's a fucking blog. 0.98

01:38:40.340 I was going to say. 0.99

01:38:42.120 So, if you want to find it, it's andyfricella.com.

01:38:45.820 Final words, Sal, Jim, Andy, we're going to wrap it up?

01:38:48.840 Life's like a tree.

01:38:50.440 You're either growing or you're dying.

01:38:52.100 Nice.

01:38:52.820 Jim?

01:38:53.820 It's just been fun today.

01:38:55.120 It's been fun to be with the boys, and if we had a few beers to go with it, it would

01:38:58.540 be a lot more fun.

01:39:00.480 There's been some...

01:39:01.380 You didn't have any beers?

01:39:02.400 No.

01:39:03.820 No, listen, no, I'm in about... 0.97

01:39:05.880 It's fucking late enough for beers. 0.95

01:39:07.460 It's 2.08 p.m. 0.99

01:39:08.600 No, I've got a...

01:39:09.160 I'll have a commercial here for my transformation.

01:39:12.480 I'm down 22 pounds.

01:39:13.860 You are?

01:39:14.460 Yeah.

01:39:15.000 That's pretty awesome, dude.

01:39:15.880 Yeah, look at this.

01:39:16.220 Look at these... 0.80

01:39:16.760 I can tell you're getting more jacked. 0.98

01:39:18.180 Yeah, I can tell you're getting jacked. 0.99

01:39:19.660 Your chest looks kind of nice. 0.97

01:39:21.080 I'm, you know...

01:39:21.500 Yeah.

01:39:22.660 What do you think, Tyler? 1.00

01:39:23.560 You want to suck on one of them titties, huh? 1.00

01:39:25.300 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:39:26.160 Dad, if Vaughn's asked you to put on a furry costume, watch out. 1.00

01:39:30.320 Hey, you want to dance?

01:39:31.220 No furry for me.

01:39:32.680 All right, well, so, Jim, that's it?

01:39:34.920 That's it.

01:39:35.400 What do you want, man?

01:39:36.200 Nothing else?

01:39:37.160 Okay.

01:39:37.640 How much am I getting paid today?

01:39:39.740 Same amount you got paid yesterday, man.

01:39:41.340 Yeah, exactly.

01:39:43.540 All right, Andy, final word.

01:39:45.100 Ah, look, man. 1.00

01:39:46.120 You guys out there take a shit too serious. 0.99

01:39:49.080 Like, you know, don't worry about what other people are doing or saying, you know, and try 1.00

01:39:53.740 to figure out what it is that you like.

01:39:55.720 I think there's a lot of people out there trying to tell you how to live, but what they should

01:39:59.520 be telling you is go out and learn how to live in the way that you want to live, and

01:40:04.840 you know, that requires different contexts and different versions of you all the time,

01:40:11.680 and that doesn't mean you're being fake.

01:40:13.440 It doesn't mean you're being inauthentic.

01:40:15.020 It doesn't mean you're being disingenuous. 0.53

01:40:17.140 It means you're applying the tool where it needs to be fucking applied, and that's perfectly 0.95

01:40:21.420 okay. 0.97

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REAL AF with Andy Frisella - February 25, 2020

5. When Does Technology Go Too Far In Business And Life？

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