Nick Salvatore is the founder of 75 Hard, the most popular mental toughness program in the history of humanity. In this episode, we talk about how he got started with the program, how he came to create it, and what it means to him.
00:00:00.000What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realists say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality.
00:00:24.980Guys, today we have a special episode. Now, I know I normally come on here and say, oh, we've got episodes within the episode, but we also have episodes within the episode within the episode.
00:00:35.900OK, and today some of you might have guessed because you clicked on the link. We have a 75 hard versus episode.
00:00:42.880For those of you that don't know, I am the creator of the live hard program. 75 hard is the first phase of that program.
00:00:49.140If you haven't heard of it, I don't know where you've been because it's probably the most popular mental toughness program that's ever existed.
00:00:54.980In the history of humanity and it's everywhere. So what we do on these episodes is we interview people who have had success, who have valuable things to offer when it comes to the program.
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00:02:00.560Now. We've got a special guest here, a guy I've been friends with for quite a few years.
00:02:05.940We actually became friends through 75 hard. Mr. Nick Salvatore. What's happening, bro?
00:02:11.580Not much, man. Thank you for having me. Yeah, it's great to have you here now.
00:02:14.320Now. You're not just this. Nick isn't just a guy who's done 75 hard.
00:02:20.900He he helps run and is the main guy that runs the Facebook group, the official face group, face group, face group book.
00:02:28.840OK, that's what we're going to call it today. Run the face group book of 75 hard.
00:02:34.980And has really helped navigate the entire help bring clarity to the entire program for lots and lots of people.
00:02:41.220So so I wanted to get you on today, bro, to talk about your personal journey, what 70, how you found 75 hard, what what it means to you, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:02:50.000And then also we'll get into the group and then also, you know, some of the things where people get off track or confused about.
00:02:55.540For sure. And address those at scale. So but it's good to have you here, bro.
00:02:59.360Yeah, this is, you know, I came in and kind of came in on a whirlwind, haven't gotten a chance to to take the the nickel tour yet.
00:03:09.280Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Amazing as it stands.
00:03:14.060And and look, man, it's it's it's an honor.
00:03:17.180You know, you and I have been connected for a good while now.
00:03:20.360Yeah. And and so for me, just want to try to help some people.
00:03:25.400Yeah. And and and and, you know, this is such a great cause and it's such a great tool for people in every aspect of their life that, you know,
00:03:35.560I think the ability to be able to help some of those people today through this, not only as they listen to it when it comes out,
00:03:41.800but in the future when they find it, you know, hopefully we can kind of rubber stamp this thing and use it as a little bit of a point to tool for for future people as well.
00:03:53.020Yeah, for sure, bro. I mean, you now if I remember right, you jumped in right at the beginning, I think when I was doing it.
00:04:00.140I'm very at the very beginning. No. So I started I started probably about six months after you started.
00:04:07.300OK, so where you're probably thinking about that is so for me, I basically my journey towards kind of where I am now.
00:04:16.220And as we move forward, started end of 2018, early 2019, before you started talking about the program.
00:04:24.340OK, you started talking about the program where I think the original podcast was February of 19.
00:04:29.140And so I was already kind of on this personal betterment, like personal development path on the mental side.
00:04:37.660But, dude, I was I was a tub of shit. You know, I was like three hundred and seventy five pounds.
00:04:42.100You're a big dude. How tall are you? Six five. Yeah. So and former athlete, you've been an athlete your whole life.
00:04:48.060Yeah, all my life. And look, you know, I was just it was it was, you know, oh, you know, you're a big guy, but you carry it well and yada, yada, yada.
00:04:55.780So but yeah, I kind of reached a point at the end of 2018, 2019, where I I caught a reflection of myself washing one of my cars in the mirror or in the window of the driver's side.
00:05:09.240And, dude, I was I was fat. I was descended. I never shirt on. And I was like, that can't be me.
00:05:15.580Yeah, it was it was it was like it was like I've never in my life been clinically like diagnosed with depression or anything like that.
00:05:25.360But I mean, I felt that way. And I was at a point in my life where I was like, there's got to be more than this.
00:05:32.660And that started that personal betterment journey. But again, that was a couple of months before 75.
00:05:37.60075 started, quite frankly, like a lot of other people look at it like, man, that's that's heavy.
00:05:44.520That's a lot. And so what I what I got to is like when you talked about it, because I consumed your content for years prior on MFCEO.
00:05:53.600My work as a managing director for our global investment bank, I was listening for entrepreneur skills.
00:06:00.980I was listening for all of those things. And so when I heard you talk about it, I knew I needed to do it.
00:06:08.200And so for me, I was kind of in that process of migration process of getting towards it.
00:06:15.200So I eventually started it, you know, early that summer.
00:06:19.660And then the way you and I originally connected formally was when my before after pictures was like 70 or 61 pounds.
00:06:28.820The first go around. Yeah. Got down into the low three hundreds.
00:06:33.640That hashtag kind of went viral. Right. That you were real active on.
00:06:37.300You reached out. You're like, bro, that's awesome. And then we just picked it up.
00:06:40.660And obviously, we have a lot of commonalities beyond that.
00:06:43.560Yeah. We started talking cars, cars, watches, houses.
00:06:47.760I mean, good shit. Like stuff from the MFCEO project that that, you know, you go out and crush it that you love.
00:06:53.840But but yeah, that's cool, man. So let's talk about this, dude.
00:06:58.960So you're you're at this place of all time dissatisfaction.
00:08:17.400And what I did was, is that I started my workouts and, um, initially I started with nothing.
00:08:23.920Um, and as I lost weight, I added that back on with the vest.
00:08:28.900And so eventually I got to the end of it there where, um, I was having the cops called in my neighborhood because I looked like a madman walking around with what they thought.
00:08:38.880And they're like, you know, people would call in shit cause I'd be walking roads and, and, and they'd be like, who the, who the fuck is this psycho that's walking, right.
00:08:50.420So, um, we started there, but it's funny, dude, cause it's funny that you say that because I remember that back in those days, it's fun.
00:08:57.680It, it, it, it, like it actually showed it's a testament to the cultural power of the program because that was common when we, when everybody first started doing 75 hard.
00:09:29.240Um, you know, because the thing that got me, that got me going was knowing that I was out there doing something when nobody else was willing to put in the time and the effort.
00:09:49.000It's supposed to suck all the, all the different phases of the process that you talk about in terms of when you feel like you're on top of the mountain, when you first start versus getting your shit kicked in like three weeks in, then you hit that cruise control point.
00:10:02.220Then you're in that no man's land where your body's destroyed, like they 50 or 60.
00:10:07.160And then you kind of get that finish line interview.
00:10:09.200And then the, the, I think the biggest thing for the people that do it the first time, and I see it over and over again, is this feeling of loss that happens the final couple of days where people don't realize that, that they, they realize they're getting better.
00:10:27.620They realize the commitment that they've made to themselves and they realize that they are, they're, they're receiving the, the, and they actually legitimately feel for themselves for the first time, the grit and the determination, the self-worth and the fortitude and the conviction that they're doing tough shit and they don't want to regress.
00:10:46.360And so they, they get this feeling of loss and people talk about it on the group all the time.
00:10:53.520Because the very point, the very next day, because I went straight into phase one, went 105 straight days, but here's the thing.
00:11:01.600If on day 76, you wake up and you do all the same shit, not because Andy for sale is pissed off on you on a fucking app, but you do it for your fucking self for the very first time ever.
00:11:34.960And we don't really ever know how disciplined we are until we don't have that framework.
00:11:41.220And so people say this to me all the time.
00:11:43.500They're like, well, dude, I just want to stay on the program all the time, but that's not the point.
00:11:47.600The point is over the course of a year, you're going to do 75 days, which is going to recondition you to think and feel and see yourself differently.
00:11:56.500And then over the course of the rest of the year, you're going to have three 30 day runs that help tune you up to that.
00:12:19.860Uh, you know, the first time I did the program, the, the first three weeks, the one thing I remember the most is how bad my fucking feet hurt.
00:12:29.980Um, yeah, it was, you know, I was, I will say this, um, praise God, uh, that, you know, being the height and the weight that I was that I never, ever, ever have been, I've ever had to deal with hip or knee or ankle issues.
00:12:47.680Um, I'm very thankful for that, but, um, your feet get destroyed, dude.
00:15:37.540And so, um, for me, the process of all of a sudden what this program yields and then truly believing those things for yourself, the way that that twists the optics about what's important to you, what you tolerate, what works for you, what doesn't, what you need from other people, what you don't.
00:16:01.680What you now have within yourself versus thinking somebody else is supposed to fulfill that, that totally changes.
00:16:08.100And the way I look at 75 is very simple.
00:16:11.20075 is not going to fix 20, 30 years of fucking up in 75 days.
00:16:19.720It will basically give you two to three years of on and off progress in 75 days.
00:16:27.000And what it will do is it will give you the tool that you need when your shit gets sideways to get it right back.
00:16:35.820Um, but for me, what it resulted in, that's a good point because one of the biggest things that happens to people, I just hold that thought.
00:16:46.060One of the reasons that people struggle over the course of their life is because they don't know how to get back on track when they get off track.
00:16:51.920And if you can shrink the amount of time that you're off track, when you do fall off track and you do the math, that saves you years.
00:17:00.920If you really think about it, because you're old enough to know, because we're roughly the same age.
00:17:05.260I'm a little bit older as we discussed.
00:17:06.780Yes, well, uh, we know that those times when we've been off the path, they last for years.
00:17:17.400And one of the most important things that I think a person can learn to do is to self-assess when they are off track as quickly as possible and know what to do to get back on track.
00:17:27.840And I think that's an important point that doesn't get enough light in terms of how the program works for people.
00:17:45.140I mean, there's a reason that there is an outside workout component to this program, irrespective of the weather to, to, to, to face that it's literally what that's designed for.
00:17:54.080But look, life is not going to be perfect.
00:17:56.040The program that dictates that you be so for 75 days and then 30 days and three segments.
00:18:01.640But to that end, whether you journal, whether you use butcher paper, whatever that is, if you go back through and you've got 29 W's in two L's in a fucking month, you kicked ass.
00:18:19.960The problem is, is that we're in this society, right?
00:18:22.860Where somebody does something, you and I talked about this a while back, somebody does something, I think it was Schwarzenegger that was talking about body change and composition or anything else.
00:18:32.060How long you have to do it for before you see change.
00:18:35.000What he said was, and you and I talked about this, this is, uh, uh, Arnold said, and this is a very powerful quote that stuck with me my whole life.
00:18:42.420And I read it when I was about 25 years old, he said, it takes your body roughly five to six weeks to adjust to the new activities that you're putting it through.
00:19:06.700Most people quit before the shit ever happens, bro.
00:19:09.060And so what, how many of you guys out there listening right now have legitimately, and I mean, legitimately given it, you're all past a six week point in your entire life.
00:19:25.920No, look, people, people that have people, the reason 75 hard works very, very, if you like dumb this down to the most elemental basic level, the reality is, is that very, very, very, very, very few.
00:19:39.060Very few people have ever been with 100% discipline for 10 and a half straight weeks.
00:20:14.220And diet culture got really fucked up with that because what it did was it trained people to only go long enough to produce the result, but not ever go long enough to actually ingrain the habit into you of eating healthy.
00:20:27.120And that's why you have so many people that get in shape, go out of shape, get in shape, go out of shape.
00:20:31.680And people will say, I'm like, dude, we hear it all the time, right?
00:20:34.58075 days without a cheat day or a cheat meal.
00:21:13.780So you go six days and your work, there's a couple of things here in play.
00:21:19.560Six days where you're working your ass off and in the whole time you're doing the six days, you're focused on the seventh day because you could do whatever you want.
00:21:27.960So if you're working for that seventh day, instead of just to continue to get better, you're never actually breaking the psychological pattern of, of overfeeding or overeating or, or using food addiction, deal with things or any of these things.
00:21:42.100No, because all you're doing is, is toughing out or gritting out six days until that break.
00:21:49.020And that's not how we should be looking at it.
00:21:51.040We should be looking at it as we're trying to correct, correct the thought process behind our, our need for these foods that are not good for us, that don't serve us, that really make us feel like shit after we eat them.
00:22:05.440So there's a psychological thought process that you have to understand for, for, for you to really comprehend why you shouldn't do a cheat day for 75 days.
00:22:15.720And then what it is, is it's just like, if I were to ask you, let's say you were addicted to heroin and I said, Nick, all right, bro, here's the deal.
00:22:54.140Um, but, but look, I, I think that that's the reason that this, that this whole thing works.
00:22:59.700And, and, and, and, and going back to your original question about the mental where it culminated for me was being in a space and being in a position where I could
00:23:10.460genuinely sit down because wait, here's the thing.
00:23:13.180When I did stuff, real talk back before all of this, I had lost 80 pounds, gained it back, lost 60 pounds, gained it back, lost it.
00:23:23.700And, and what always confused me about myself was the fact that people always talk about, oh man, you got to do it until you see the results.
00:23:32.480And then that's going to make you double down and go harder.
00:23:34.900For me, I was fucked because I was the opposite way.
00:23:37.720I worked until somebody said, man, you're looking good.
00:23:42.840And I'm like, what the fuck is that all about?
00:23:44.860And so what I did is, um, what I, what I did when I did 75, going back to the mentality part, I literally turned off the world.
00:23:53.640I basically developed a way to monitor my own progress incognito mode, um, out to the world, which is kind of where some of that stuff started.
00:24:02.360But I didn't tell family, um, I didn't tell, I didn't tell anybody, but I stopped showing up to everything.
00:24:08.880I stopped showing up to the Sunday dinners.
00:24:10.740I stopped trying to try to be in an Italian family where all of a sudden you don't come over anymore on Sunday night.
00:25:32.940And so that is getting to that point mentally.
00:25:36.900And then realizing you have that tool in your bag to double down, you know, like for example, for the last 30 days, I haven't been able to do shit.
00:25:47.340I've got this herniated issue in my L5 and my lower back.
00:25:52.060That's basically caused complete weakness in my left leg.
00:25:55.460Feels like my fucking left leg's asleep half the time.
00:25:58.260So couldn't do cardio, all this stuff.
00:26:00.300So it's like fucking spinal decompression, foam rolling, stretching.
00:26:39.720Some of them might make you believe that they have superpowers, but they don't.
00:26:43.480The only difference between you and them is they've done enough work to uncover their own belief in themselves and their ability to do the work to where they can do it with no problem, where you still doubt that you can actually do it.
00:26:54.420And if you would just push yourself even a little bit for 75 days, it would change your whole perspective around what you're actually able to do.
00:27:04.340Because, dude, you and I are both naturally big-ass fat dudes, okay?
00:27:08.660Like, we're athletes, but like when we're not doing shit, we get fat, okay?
00:27:13.900I never, ever, ever, ever, and this is the truth.
00:27:19.040The first time I did 75 hard, dude, I didn't know if I could fucking do it.
00:27:23.220But I put it out on public on the podcast.
00:27:39.460You better fucking bring it because I'm bringing it, all right?
00:27:42.180But real talk, like if I say something, I'm going to at least do my best to back it up even if I fail because I don't like being embarrassed in that way, right?
00:27:49.780And what it does, man, is it gives you the belief that you have this power within you, man.
00:27:57.200And, like, that then translates to literally every other area.
00:28:03.760It translates to, you know, how you look at yourself.
00:28:06.760And that's a powerful thing because most of us, before we discover this ability about ourselves, we look at other people and we think, fuck, dude, why don't I have that?
00:28:20.460Why is that person so much better at me than this?
00:28:22.840And then after completing the program, it made sense to me.
00:28:26.940Like it was just they're doing things I'm not doing.
00:28:29.640So it brings in focus actual reality of the situation and the actual reality of life.
00:28:36.600Whether you want to admit this to yourself right now or not, it will eventually be known to be true to you because it is a fundamental truth of the world.
00:28:53.680And so if you're in a place right now where you doubt yourself and you say, man, I don't know if I could do this or I don't know if I could do that.
00:29:00.540The whole reason that you doubt yourself is because you never actually really fucking tried.
00:29:08.400You know, if you're if you're listening to this, whether it's on audio, whether it's on YouTube, because I know, you know, I've heard you say like the YouTube crowd.
00:29:20.640It doesn't seem like the audio crowd is turning to YouTube, but it seems like the YouTube is a brand new crowd.
00:29:25.040So there's a lot of people look kind of for exactly how it works, foreshadowing kind of our group conversation in a bit.
00:29:32.140Dude, probably a third of the thirty one thousand people in that group have no idea who the fuck you are.
00:29:37.760And so and but but to that end, right, being in a position where if you're listening to this, if you found this right for me, when you talked about that in February of twenty nineteen, I knew.
00:29:52.040Yeah, I knew, you know, OK, there's there is no.
00:29:57.560But you just kind of alluded to you weren't sure if you were going to be successful when you first started doing it, you knew you were going to be successful because you put your name and you attached yourself to something out there and you knew you weren't going to fail.
00:30:12.000And so the point is the way you succeed on this program, because this program is going to confirm who you are.
00:30:18.100You're either going to either way, either way, because here's the problem, right?
00:30:36.240And, bro, not only that, those people then compound their own self-doubt because they don't commit properly from the beginning.
00:30:41.720And then on top of that, the people that don't succeed, you're going to get the confirmation either way, whether you can do it or you can't, because then here's the problem, right?
00:30:51.440And you've talked about this before, not often, but the dark part of this program is, is that if you do it half-assed and you don't succeed, then it's just confirming all of the bullshit that you already feel about yourself and you're fucked.
00:31:04.440So to that end, you have to commit zero options.
00:31:19.600And the reason why is, is because when you have that commitment to yourself, for whatever reason, I tell people, it could be to yourself.
00:31:26.600It could be for whatever reason, but that there's going to be a part of that first time where you're convincing yourself that you can do it.