566. Q&AF： Donald Trump's Arrest, Friendly Competition & Employee Personal Development
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Summary
On this episode of Q&A we have Pastor Tino Von Kohler on the show to talk about his experience with the FBI and how he deals with it. We also talk about what it's like being a pastor and dealing with the pressures of being a religious leader.
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So you probably noticed a little different setting today, but we figured we'd do something a little different.
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I have not only DJ here, but we also have the pastor of disaster, Mr. Von Kohler.
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I can tell I've been on the show a couple of times.
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Because my follower number has increased, but then I'm also getting visits from the FBI.
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It goes from following to sending weird people to your house to knocking on your door.
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So depending on, I don't know, have you had any weirdos yet?
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Anybody that gets on Real AF moves up on the list.
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You've been on Real AF enough now where I think you qualify.
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You're going to make me look like an ass right now?
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And if he didn't succeed, I'm pretty sure you're not going to succeed.
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Because then you wouldn't be able to fire anybody.
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Andy, on the last episode of Real AF, Trump turned himself in.
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I think everybody has a lot to say about it, apparently.
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You know, first of all, I think it's a very negative thing for the government to weaponize
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the justice system, because what they're failing to realize is that the pendulum is already
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And by arresting him, and it was a terrible strategic move for them.
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I actually think the day he got arrested, he won the election.
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If the elections are fair, which they're not, but I think he got enough people.
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He had, first of all, his mug shot is going to become probably the most famous photograph
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But now what we're seeing and what we've observed over the last few days is we're seeing people
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who voted for Biden come out and say actively, like, I voted for Biden, but this is bullshit.
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And so the feeling that I think it's creating in the population is actually very good for
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America because they're seeing how corrupt these people actually are.
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And it doesn't matter if you're Democrat or Republican.
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When you see this sort of thing happen and then you think, okay, well, what's going to
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That's a scary thing because now we're talking about a pendulum swinging back and ultimately
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who's going to win with the pendulum swinging back and forth is the person who kills all
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We've seen that in history over and over and over again.
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And I think even the most asleep Americans are starting to wake up and realize, holy shit,
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I've seen, I've had a lot of messages from people over the last three days where people
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are like, dude, I fucking hate Trump, but like, I'll vote for him because of what they're
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And so what I think they're making is a terrible strategic mistake.
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And I think all the people that are doing these things are exposing themselves to who
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the corrupt people are and who the corrupt people aren't.
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I think we're at a time right now where the actions of these people in the justice system,
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whether they go along with the persecution or they go along with the defense of Trump,
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we're very clearly going to be able to identify who is who, who are the criminals, who are the
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And, uh, you know, I think that can only help Trump.
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Let me ask you this because you know what, what frightens me, man.
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And we talk about this, obviously we know this isn't CTI, but, uh, let's relate it.
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You, you are an entrepreneur, you're a business owner, you have multiple businesses.
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It's safe to say that, you know, strategy, right.
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And, and you're very conscious, especially when it comes to brand equity and, and, and
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And when I see this, it's like, they don't care about the optics.
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They're blatantly, they don't care about the optics.
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And so it's like, when you're making strategic moves like this, as bold as they are, not
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caring what the optics look like or whatever the public perception is, what can, like, what,
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what does, what, what conclusion does that bring you to looking at that?
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Uh, well, it tells me very clearly that they are all in like, and that's something that
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the conservative base and the common sense base of America is figuring out.
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Um, you know, for the last three years, as we've talked about these things, um, you know,
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a lot of people, you know, as you know, uh, where's your tinfoil hat, right.
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You know, Andy Frisella and DJ, they're fucking domestic terrorists.
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And, and now people are like, like, dude, how many messages are we getting of people?
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Like the one that we put on last CTI where the guy's like, dude, I, I didn't listen to
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Yeah, dude, look, I'm getting literally hundreds of those messages at this point in
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So first of all, I'd like to say, welcome back, uh, to you guys.
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You know, now, now all the people who said, fuck you, you're only good for personal
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You're only this and that you should stick to this.
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Those people are now coming around to realize that like, I actually wasn't off base.
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And, uh, you know, so welcome to the CTI shows guys.
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Um, but that's a, that's a snapshot of culture, right?
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That's showing that across the board, even the people who detested that sort of talk, because
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Not all of them, but the ones that with integrity are.
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And so when I think of like how it affects the brand and how it affects brand equity for
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Trump, um, I think it solidifies him as an actual patriot.
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And people are starting to realize that this motherfucker is like somebody that we need
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And, you know, to you guys who say the vote doesn't matter, I actually agree with you in
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Um, I think there's a 10 to 20% fudging of the votes that they're able to get away with.
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But I think with the momentum that this man is building behind him, uh, there's no way
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And that's why I like those of you who say, I don't believe in voting.
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It's necessary for you to vote in case they do try to steal it because that way there'll
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So, I mean, there's a lot to unpack here, dude.
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Um, but ultimately this is gassing Trump up just like we talk about on real or on CTI
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Uh, and these guys who are running against them, you know, they don't have an option
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but to persecute at the highest level because they understand that if they don't get their
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way, the accountability that's going to occur from that is going to be severe.
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I think they're also trying to like, it's almost like they're poking the hornet's nest,
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Like, because he's facing like over 700 years or something like that, facing the death penalty
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And if they go through with that, wouldn't that be the perfect, uh, the, the perfect play
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to get the reaction from the American Patriots?
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I think it's very important for people to understand that it, these people are trying to instigate
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a violent reaction or a mob reaction from the Patriot community in America and, uh, we'll
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And everybody also needs to remember that like all your fellow citizens and your relatives
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and your friends who are, you know, more left leaning than they have been.
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Those people are all starting to wake up and you guys have to make room for those people
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Like, like it doesn't do any good for like these people to, to come to us and apologize.
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It doesn't do any good for us to be like, Hey, well, fuck off, bro.
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All the humans and all the citizens are on the same team and the top level tyrants are
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on another team and the top level tyrants don't just exist here in America.
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They organize themselves in like organizations like the world economic forum and NATO and these
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different organizations that have been typically seen as good organizations.
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But the only reason they've been seen as good organizations, because we've had people representing
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our, our, our office that are affiliated with them.
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And Trump is the first guy that actually isn't Trump is the first guy that went in and said,
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And this is the reason that he's being persecuted.
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And I thought one of the best clips from the last, uh, CTI that we did besides India landing
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Was, uh, was the clip, uh, by the black gentleman in Atlanta with the shirt.
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Anyway, these, listen, here's, here's what I actually think is going to happen, dude.
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Uh, the, I actually think the shirt of Trump's mugshot and then that shirt that that guy wore
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I think we're going to see people and dude, that's going to create a cultural phenomenon.
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Potentially that changes the entire landscape because why did Trump actually, why were they
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Well, the reason they were able to cheat the election is because of this thing called the
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The silent majority wasn't vocal the way that they should have been.
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So they were able to convince people that not as many people were with Trump than what we
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thought there were because half of them were fucking quiet because they don't want to offend
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Well, and the MAGA hats were too divisive too at that time.
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And by the way, Trump didn't come up with make America great again.
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So when we talk about make America great again, the reason it didn't resonate with a lot
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of fucking people was because for a lot of people, America has never been great.
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Like there's a lot of black America who says, what do you mean make America great again?
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And now black America is waking up like that gentleman in Atlanta.
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And he's like, look, dude, this is the justice system they've been using against black
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And so like, dude, over the last three days, I've seen more black Americans start to stand
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up and realize that Trump is actually fucking the opposite of what they've been told.
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And I think what these two, these two shirts specifically, I think a year from now, you
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will see white people, black people, and everybody wearing that shirt and both of those shirts
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to create a fucking movement that we're like, dude, we're all getting along.
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We can make jokes about each other, but we love each other.
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And we're friends and we're going to work together.
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Well, this is what I thought about all this is that, uh, you know, anybody familiar with
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the end of the movie Braveheart knows that William Wallace is of course captured by the
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English and Edward Longshanks and, uh, they're going to, they're going to execute him.
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But instead of just executing them, they put him through this pretty rigorous torture,
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And when he first is carted out, the crowd is completely against him, right?
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But over the course of the, the execution, when they see, man, this guy's really being,
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uh, cruelly treated, but he's bearing up under it in this really heroic and valiant way.
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And instead of them jeering at him, they start saying, they started saying mercy, mercy.
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Now I am not saying that Donald Trump is William Wallace, but it's the same effect is happening.
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Is that people are looking at Trump and they're saying, wait a minute, like there are people
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There are people who are treating him, uh, way beyond what he deserves.
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There's all sorts of foul play going on and what it's doing is it's, it's kind of generating
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They're seeing how he's handling it and they're going, okay, maybe this guy's not so bad.
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And they're saying, if, if he is being treated this badly, what are they going to do to me?
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And so again, I want to emphasize, I'm not putting Trump on the level of, of William Wallace,
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but I am saying that the same effect is happening.
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Uh, for those of you that are going to ask, this is a Padron 64, uh, torpedo.
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And I got onto these because of my friend, Derek Barton.
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I think that's the social phenomenon that's going to, that's being created right now.
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It's a terrible strategy by the left, uh, by the communists.
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And you know, a lot of people who don't like Trump are being like, bro.
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I didn't like his fucking tweets and he definitely wasn't presidential, but what the fuck?
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And that's, that's the narrative that I'm hearing and seeing and observing.
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And I'm hearing it from people that don't necessarily like what you and I do on the show every day.
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The name seems familiar, but he had him on the show a few times.
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Um, last show he was on, we talked about kilts because he's, uh, from England and, uh, his
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wife is from Scotland and we talked about the tartans.
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So they actually went and did read this is, I got to tell the story.
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Cause it comes up and it came up in the conversation.
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So they did the research on the tartan for my heritage.
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So they found that my name for Sella came from a tribe in Rome that actually went through
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France and went up to Scotland in the year 1100.
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And they were actually called for silly and Rome went through Spain and their name changed.
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And eventually when they got to Scotland, they were called the Frazier clan.
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And the Frazier clan was one of the most vicious warrior clans in Scottish history.
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And the Frazier clan, the leader of the Frazier clan was actually executed with, look at me,
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The phrase you've heard, laugh your head off comes from when they executed this guy with
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William Wallace, because when they executed him, he fucking laughed in their face.
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But I mean, dude, even go to your grandfather, your dad's dad.
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Like, I mean, like your bloodline is full of fucking.
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Like, I mean, I don't know how many other clues you need other than that, but that's some
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It's a long story, but like, that's fucking incredible.
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So my long lost fucking relative from like 1500, okay, was one of the dudes that was killed
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For the record, the reason I was looking down was because you're telling this great story
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and it makes me think of when I was going through my cancer and I was watching this documentary
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And it's really great if you guys should check it out.
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But they told the story of apparently the reason that they played bagpipes back in the
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day was that it was like a, that was meant to get the, and I'm going to get it wrong
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So some of you who are Scottish or Irish are going to hate me for this, but I think it
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You played the bagpipes to get people psyched up for war.
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Well, on D-Day, there was a guy, I mean, you know, the, the Normandy invasion, there
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was a guy who I guess was one of the Scottish regulars and he didn't even have a, uh, he
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didn't even have a gun or any sort of armament.
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He just played the bagpipes and he was like trying to inspire everybody else around him.
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It's kind of like how in revolutionary war, they play drums.
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Like what kind of, you know what it's going to be this time?
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To, to have that kind of like confidence and, and, uh, and I got you.
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It's just amazing to me that there would be somebody who would like literally storm the
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beaches of Normandy with nothing but a bagpipe.
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Some people are just have that kind of moxie, you know, we all have it.
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So this is the email that Alana, uh, Stott sent to Emily describing this, this tartan.
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The Frisella name descends from the Frisillies who come from the clan Frazier, the first recorded
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Simon Frazier owned land in East Lothian and Aberdeenshire, giving the name to Frazierburg,
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This is about 40 minutes from where I was born.
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And I might mispronounce some of this stuff, guys.
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The Frazier clan's motto is Zezus pressed, meaning I am ready.
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They are descended from the norm, the Norman Knights, originally crossing the Anjou district
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And the name comes from the French Frazier family who themselves originated in a savage
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The name comes from the French word strawberry for our ease so that the strawberry became
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part of the tribal badge and then onto the Frazier coat of arms.
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Sir Simon Frazier fought with both William Wallace and Robert the Bruce before he was captured
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and brutally hanged and drawn and quartered by King Edward the first.
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The Fraziers at the Battle of 1544 suffered devastating losses with only five Fraziers surviving the
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And it was named the Battle of the Shirts due to the heat causing the men to remove their
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The Fraziers rose to fame during some of the most important battles in Scottish history,
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And then in 1745 have reestablished themselves and helped them win this battle.
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There are many cool stories about the clan, including the phrase laugh your head off, which
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comes from the execution of Simon Frazier when he was captured by King Edward.
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And during his beheading, he kept laughing at his captors.
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Well, listen, if they get me, I'll be laughing too.
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I'm going to have no fucking pants on and I'm going to be laughing.
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Guys, in the comments, let us know what you guys think about the Trump arrests.
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Andy, I was curious about your thoughts on competition.
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With all the free advice you give out, do you ever worry that someone will use it as
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Or do you welcome competition and know that most people simply won't put what you say
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Or do you think about it in a completely different way altogether?
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I would love to know your point of view on this.
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When I was a little bit younger, I think back when we were doing the original MFCEO, I wanted
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to fucking cut everybody's throat and step on their fucking faces.
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I realized that nobody likes you when you act like that.
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And I started to like really examine how I looked at people and looked at competition.
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And how I look at it now is very different than I looked at it even 10 years ago or 8
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years ago or even, you know, maybe 5 years ago.
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And I do not believe that there's a limited amount of success.
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And I do give away all of my secrets, either on the show or if you join Arte, I give you
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And there's a lot of guys who own companies competitive to mine that are in Arte.
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And to their credit, real talk, there's some of the biggest nutrition companies that are
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out right now, those owners have sent me emails or letters or messages and thanking me for the
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information because it's helped them build their companies.
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And the reality of that, I think, is amazing because I think that's creating a situation
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where people are going out, they're creating good ethical companies, they're employing people,
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they are, you know, helping people, they're doing business the right way.
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Because you have to remember, when I got into the supplement industry and the nutrition
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space, it was very much an offshoot of the porn space.
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It was just a bunch of hot girls with, you know.
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And people saying, you know, to do hard work or to work hard, that was not a thing.
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It wasn't a thing to say, hey, you're going to have to fucking work really hard.
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Everybody understands that if you take a fucking supplement, you're going to have to fucking
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work hard, which is an ethical viewpoint, right?
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Because the reality is, it doesn't matter what you take.
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So one, I think it's created and pivoted the industry in an ethical way, which I'm very
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But two, I think at this point, it's actually pivoted in business culture as a whole to that
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You know, we have thousands of people in the Arte Syndicate and all these people are running
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similar types of businesses to the kinds that I run, but in their spaces.
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And when I look at competitors, some of my very best friends own competitive companies.
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You know, like honey, Rambod is my very best friend that I talk to on a daily basis.
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I've talked to him every single day since you've been around me.
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He fucking helps me with my physique and my training.
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And we talk business and I help him with his business.
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And there's other guys like that, too, in the industry that I have a ton of respect for.
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And bottom line is how I look at it now is this.
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Like, look, dude, I've I've done I've done very well.
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I've made myself a very successful human being.
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It's first of all, when you're the only person that's winning, it's not that much fun.
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So it's more fun when your friends are winning.
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And unfortunately, who you're going to become friends with in your business is probably your competition because they know the most about you.
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And, you know, a lot of people hesitate to be friendly with their competition because they're afraid that they're going to share their secret.
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Listen, you don't have any fucking secrets, bro.
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Or find the little things here and there that work and go with those things.
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And so the first thing is, is I like to help my friends succeed that are in the same industry as me directly.
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Like, I will get on the phone with people who own other companies all the time and fucking be like, all right, well, how can I help?
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So, so the first thing is, is, you know, you want to be, you, you want to be friendly with people and help them win because when you help them win, then you're not the only one winning.
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When you help other people win, even when they're in competition, now you're putting out in the universe that you fucking love winning.
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And when you put out in the universe that you love winning, guess what happens to you?
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But here's the most important part of that, of my thinking on competition.
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I enjoy being friends with people who are like.
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That push me that are getting good, that are being better, that are doing great things.
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And like, dude, when you're already successful and you have a lot of success, the, the amount of drive that you have, it's just not the same as when you had nothing.
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So like when you look at your competition as a, as somebody that you're going to make better so that then you're going to get better, that's a healthy way to look at it.
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And it's also a fun way to look at it because now you're friends, there's a healthy competition.
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And, and then when you both win more, you both win more.
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And I think, um, I think if the, I think of American culture and business, especially small business was more like that.
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Like, dude, I'm in competition with everybody I'm around, bro.
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There's not a human being that I'm around period that I'm not trying to beat in every single way.
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I'm trying to fucking, I'm trying to do everything better, but that doesn't mean I don't want that for you.
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That just means I'm trying to do the best that I can.
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And if someone else is also pushing now, all of a sudden we're in this dynamic where it's like,
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So like, you know, that's kind of my, that's my overall view on it.
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I think, I think it's healthy to support people.
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And I think, um, I think ultimately you're way more fulfilled and way happier in that scenario when you approach competition that way.
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But because here's the reality, the reality is you're not going to get everybody.
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You're not going to be the, you're not going to be the biggest dick.
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Like that's the fucking reality of life, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
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So, um, and it's cool to be around people who are also winning because you learn from them, you get better.
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They learn from you and it creates great friendships.
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And, and that was something I didn't understand at earlier part of my career, you know?
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The only thing I would add would be that, you know, urban Meyer can teach me everything there is to know about the spread offense, but pretty sure he's going to do it better than I am.
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So we, you can give people the ingredients, but you're still going to make a better cake than most people.
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But, but if I'm saying like, yeah, no, totally dude.
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Like Nick Saban had a situation where his, uh, his, the guy at Georgia, I believe used to be on Nick Saban's crew.
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And Nick's, Nick's like, like you could tell when, when Kirby beat him, Nick was fucking happy about it.
00:31:24.260
And like you, when you're winning at a level of like, when you're talking about like, you don't have any fucking like thing to worry about.
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And, and the key is to look at it differently when you don't have anything because then you actually rise up with people.
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Cause when you first answered this question, Andy, you said that that's not how you were.
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And I want to ask you this, like, do you, what was that mentality that you had early on where it was fucking, it's kill everybody.
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Like, would you say that that was necessary though?
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Like, was that a necessary part of that journey is to have that type of drive, at least in the initial beginning?
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I think that when you don't have anything, I think it's really fucking, you're desperate.
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You know, when I, when you don't know shit, you're insecure about what you don't know.
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So you're more aggressive towards the competition when you know shit and you're confident in your abilities.
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I mean, let's look at my level of success that I achieved being like that versus where I'm at now.
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And I don't think I'd be here right now had I not made that evolution.
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So I think it's important for people to recognize that competition is an amazing thing.
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It's actually what drives all innovations, what drives all developments, what drives all growth.
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And if you could be friends with those people you're competing against, it drives, you make amazing friendships because they all know what you're going through.
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And then ultimately those people end up making you stay on the path and get better and better and better down their path.
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Yeah, that's beautiful because what I'm getting is like basically like that mentality of the aggressiveness, fuck everybody.
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That's going to get you, that'll get you pretty successful.
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But there is going to be like a governor, a restriction on that limit as far as how much further past that you can go with that mentality.
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Ed and I talked about this when we did my show, when he was on Real AF a while back.
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Yeah, it is going to limit you if you maintain that type of personality because you're going to get on a level, you're going to try to level up and there's all these people above you on the ladder and you've got a poor attitude where you're like, fuck you guys, I'm going to fucking kill you.
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And what happens is, you know, the people up on the ladder, because you have to network and you have to work with people and you have to use resources together.
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You'll get to a certain point and the people above you will look down and be like, yeah.
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And they'll all look at each other and be like, that guy's not one of us.
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And you do see this with a lot of young entrepreneurs.
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I see this on the Internet now talking all this crazy shit.
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And it's like, bro, the problem that you're talking all this shit.
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You might be able to make, you know, you might be able to build a hundred million dollar company like that, but it'll never be a billion dollar company.
00:34:15.420
And you'll be pissed off all the time because all you're looking at is every single fucking buddy's move.
00:34:24.560
I want to ask you this, too, because I feel like because I've seen some of those.
00:34:28.240
Those moments where people are getting kicked off the ladder.
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But I think what's always funny, at least from the few times that I've seen it, those people that are getting kicked off, they have no idea why that they were kicked off by who they think is just they think their shit's just stalling out, dude.
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And they refuse to help you because you're an asshole.
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Like, yeah, I think nobody ever said, like, they never came to a realization of, like, oh, shit, I got to actually work with people to be successful.
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Look, dude, people talk shit about Obama, right?
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But, you know, he said something back when he was in office that everybody got pissed off about, including me.
00:35:13.780
And he's like, he was talking about your business.
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Because you could only do so much as one person.
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And those people that help you are not just your employees.
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And you have to get to a certain level to understand that.
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And it's sad because a lot of people will build a good business, be angry doing it.
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And then get kicked off the ladder and be more angry because their business isn't progressing like it should without the awareness of, like, dude, the reason your business is not progressing like it should is because all the other guys that hold the key for you to keep moving up aren't giving you any access to it.
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My observation is that the truly successful people are really able to do that godfather distinction between its personal or its business.
00:36:06.060
Like, in the political realm, you look back in the 80s and you had Ronald Reagan, conservative Republican president, and then you had Tip O'Neill, who was, you know, left-leaning Democrat House speaker, right?
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Well, in their personal lives, they were really, really good friends.
00:36:22.180
In their political lives, they were ardent enemies.
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And people used to, like, scratch their heads going, like, how is this even possible?
00:36:28.260
And they asked Reagan about it one time, and he said, oh, cocktails in the evening, pistols at dawn.
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And I think that's the mentality that successful people have.
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I can do whatever I can to contribute to their success.
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But when it comes to going head-to-head, yeah, it's going to be a battle.
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The top 10 people I talk to on a regular basis, eight of them are competitors of mine.
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And then when I win and I fucking text them, I say, yeah, dude, listen to what happened.
00:37:16.180
I don't think I've ever, I know I haven't asked you this before.
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But when, that whole phrase, like, going back to Vaughn's point, the whole phrase business,
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like, it's business, business is business, right?
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Like, what situation was there where, like, you first learned that, like, that came to
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There's very few situations where I think that's actually true.
00:37:40.860
I think that's a viewpoint of people that actually have never experienced it.
00:37:46.520
But I think when you make a decision in business, there's always a personal aspect to that.
00:37:55.720
Like, when you have to let go of an employee, right, there's two different perspectives that
00:38:13.300
But you also know they have three kids at home, and you also know that they have bills
00:38:16.960
to pay, and you also know that if you fucking fire them, they're fucked, okay?
00:38:23.600
On the other hand, you have to look at all the people who are rowing the boat, and you
00:38:27.140
have to look at all the people who are on the team doing what they're supposed to do and
00:38:32.180
And if you don't let go of this person, you're hurting these people over here, all right?
00:38:37.440
And that's a very, that's a tough spot that most people in business or as an employee
00:38:43.820
of a company, they assume that that thought never actually happens.
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And the reason that, you know, a lot of people have their jobs is because there's grace given
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And so, like, I've, you know, I think there's guys who run their business as a business,
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I agree with that, but I think if that's how you, if you run your business that way,
00:39:07.800
you're never going to get the bought-in culture of true human potential, of creative buy-in
00:39:18.600
So I think it's just, you know, I think, and sometimes you get burned by it.
00:39:24.180
Sometimes you give somebody too much grace and they fuck you.
00:39:28.100
But at the end of the day, the net positive is far greater in my opinion.
00:39:33.920
Guys, Andy, our third and final question, question number three.
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Andy, this is a question about employees' leadership.
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Andy, does it pay off to take employees to leadership or personal growth seminars,
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or is it better to just teach leadership from within the company?
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I personally think it's better for you to learn the information and then be the teacher
00:40:01.900
of the information because then the value is coming from you, which means they reciprocate
00:40:10.160
So what I mean by that is if I learn something from Urban Meyer about leadership, then I go
00:40:24.940
And I might say, you know, I learned this from Urban Meyer, but I teach it, okay?
00:40:29.800
I think when you outsource, I think when you out, you have to be careful when you outsource
00:40:37.160
And a lot of people like to outsource it because they don't want to put the time and the energy
00:40:42.800
They say, oh, I'll just send my guys to Jocko's leadership school and they'll come back perfectly.
00:40:49.060
When they come back perfect leaders, they don't want to lead for you.
00:40:53.580
So there's going to lead you actually, or they're going to go somewhere where they respect
00:40:59.680
So like you have to think of it from that aspect.
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I think there's definite value in sending your team to learn from certain organizations
00:41:08.600
But I think that should also be coupled with you becoming the best teacher of personal development
00:41:16.840
And I think the reason that a lot of people like to outsource their employees to other people
00:41:21.180
is because they don't want to do it themselves.
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But what they're short-sighted in seeing is that they're missing a big opportunity to
00:41:31.320
create some reciprocating value with your employees and your team.
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And to your point, like you can get information from anybody.
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Like anybody can watch videos from Jocko or Tony Robbins or whoever happens to be the
00:41:54.220
But for you to actually exercise influence over your people, you have to be the one who's
00:42:00.680
You have to be the one who's teaching because you're teaching within the context of a real
00:42:06.040
I mean, I would argue that as great as those guys are, they're never going to have the
00:42:10.160
impact that you do as the leader of your company.
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Because you're going to not just provide information, you're going to provide incarnation.
00:42:17.500
You're going to literally embody it in your day-to-day actions.
00:42:21.200
And that's going to exercise infinitely more power and influence over your people than any
00:42:27.960
Why do you think it is that so many people, instead of learning this stuff themselves,
00:42:35.680
Do you think it's just laziness or do you think it's incompetence or do you think it's
00:42:40.860
I think people don't want to work hard sort of by nature.
00:42:45.000
You have to force yourself to work a little harder.
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But I also think it's probably people probably assume that leadership is having all the answers,
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It's being willing to find all the answers or to work on it until you get the answer.
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And I think people just need to give themselves a little bit more credit and say, okay, I don't
00:43:09.000
have to, I don't have to have all the information, you know, in my head.
00:43:13.600
But if I show people, and you're good at this, if I show people that, you know, just because
00:43:19.520
I don't have the answer doesn't mean I can't find it.
00:43:21.960
I think that's incredibly inspiring because you're taking people along on your journey and
00:43:27.380
I think another thing too, and I agree with that.
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I think another thing too with this is that a lot of people think that leadership is almost
00:43:35.360
like an authoritarian role, like you're like a dictator role when in reality, leadership
00:43:42.080
It's about being able to understand what are the answers.
00:43:44.900
And so when you're sitting with a team and you've got 10 people in the room and you have
00:43:49.960
an idea, well, those other nine people have an idea too.
00:43:53.120
And your job as a leader is to have enough humility to let all those ideas be heard and
00:43:58.600
then pick the one that's going to benefit your movement or your company or your team the
00:44:05.580
And ultimately I think that's where leadership's either gets respect or doesn't get respect
00:44:10.580
based upon how well they navigate that dynamic.
00:44:13.480
Because when we think about traditional bosses or CEOs or leaders, what do we think of?
00:44:19.880
You know, we think of that meme where it shows like all these people pulling that big brick
00:44:24.300
and the guy sitting on the brick is yelling at everybody or, and it says boss, right?
00:44:29.620
Or the leaders up at the front of the line pulling the brick, right?
00:44:36.460
The leadership, true respected leaders are people who do not have all the answers, but
00:44:42.240
act in what's in the best interest of all the people in their organization and organization's
00:44:48.780
goals, regardless of that comes from their own brain or other people's brain.
00:44:52.940
And I think a lot of people, when it comes to this topic of sending and outsourcing their,
00:44:58.000
their skill sets, I think, you know, a lot of people have boss mentality.
00:45:02.160
I think they think that they're going to, you know, check out on Thursday and come back
00:45:09.200
And, you know, because they sent all their leadership people to, you know, echelon front to learn
00:45:14.100
leadership, which by the way, is an awesome fucking program.
00:45:18.480
They, they think that they're just good and, you know, that'll never work.
00:45:22.180
That'll, that'll never work without your piece of it.
00:45:24.260
And so, um, you're either going to learn how to lead and you're going to learn how to teach
00:45:29.900
and you're going to learn how to create reciprocating value amongst your team, recognize the best
00:45:33.940
ideas or those quality people who are also, who want to go win, they're going to go win
00:45:40.420
Andy, I'm so, so let's say I'm a business owner.
00:45:42.540
I'm listening to this and I actually just filled out the fucking invoice to send my team
00:45:48.140
to, to, you know, this offsite training, right?
00:46:07.840
Like there's a lot you can learn from reading, you know, people, there's plenty of people
00:46:20.120
The first way is you go out and get your brains beat in.
00:46:24.260
The second way to learn is you learn from other people's experience and you have books
00:46:28.400
that have thousands of years of human experience and every single aspect of reality that people
00:46:35.620
are unwilling to tackle or look at, or, you know, read or absorb because they think there's
00:46:43.160
no value in it because you have some of these dumb asses on the internet saying books are
00:46:48.800
Well, if you don't read books, bro, I'm going to crush you.
00:46:51.480
It's going to be, it's going to be brutal crushing.
00:46:54.940
Because I'm learning from 17 other fucking leaders who have all been through the same
00:47:02.040
I've heard all their experiences of it and you're just going off of what you think.
00:47:07.380
Bro, you're going to get your ass beat that way.
00:47:09.720
So anybody, anybody who says books are overrated, I don't read, I don't do this, bro, don't
00:47:19.280
Those are egotistical people who are trying to pretend like they have all the answers
00:47:26.240
Which is a third part of this discussion because that's the third part, right?
00:47:29.800
The third part is the people who capture all the information and then decide it's all theirs
00:47:34.200
and they didn't learn it from anybody and they're Jesus.
00:47:39.700
So my advice is, and I don't care who this offends, if someone tells you that they don't
00:47:44.480
read books or that they don't fucking look at books, that's not someone worth listening
00:47:48.940
to because they're, they're only giving you 50% of the available information, which is
00:47:55.620
And I bet probably someone who has that most, in most cases, doesn't even have that much
00:48:01.600
So that's why we talk about reading 10 pages a day of personal development in the live
00:48:06.820
It's a massive, massive, massive tool that most people don't utilize.
00:48:10.740
You know, there is no difference between someone who can't read and someone who won't
00:48:19.660
So you, most people out here are going through life as an illiterate person because they're
00:48:26.040
choosing not to utilize the available resources around them.
00:48:49.580
Well, guys, hey, listen, thanks for joining us on the show.
00:48:56.000
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00:49:01.380
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00:49:03.920
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