575. Q&AF Ft. Layne Norton, PhD: Forgiving Others, Feeling Overwhelmed & Being A Man
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Summary
In this episode we have a special guest on the show, my good buddy Lane Nordeon. Lane has been in the business for a long time and has been involved in the debunking industry for a good portion of that time. He has been a part of the industry for over 20 years and is one of the most respected debunking personalities in the industry.
Transcript
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what is up guys it's andy for selling this is the show for the real let's say goodbye to the lies
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the faintness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys today we
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just bring someone on and we have a talk i know i said i wasn't going to do many of those but i think
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we're going to bring those back because i like them anyway q and af and we have a special guest
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got my friend back in the house my good buddy lane norton what's happening bro good to see you
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good to be back yeah what's been going on a lot of the same just doing business lifting heavy and
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doing the dad thing calling motherfuckers out on the internet i do some of that you know uh the
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kind of the science-based side of things you know um you know ruffling some ruffling some feathers
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it's hard job but somebody's got to do it it is what it is although i will say like i'm seeing so
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many more evidence-based people coming out and doing like kind of like my debunk style videos
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and people have said to me like doesn't that bother you i'm like no i think it's great yeah like we
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need more people i've felt like i've been out on an island for a long time doing this stuff you know
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so i've seen a lot of that too i've seen a lot of the uh they're they're like guys in their mid-20s
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that are starting to kind of like take up that same style yeah um even some females too yeah i haven't
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seen any of that i've seen i've seen a few i only see them because you you shout them out on your page
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yeah um which i think it's cool you know yeah yeah like i i mean i tell everybody like
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yeah we're all in competition but it's like you know i don't not nearly as big but i don't
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something at line but we're not in competition like i care about good folks in the industry
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i want to align myself with as many like good people as i can because to me like rising tide
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floats all ships and i think that's that's common i think that's become like you and i've been in the
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industry for like literally the exact same amount of time do you feel like that it's been that that's
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changed because i feel like personally it used to not be that way i felt like the owners of
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companies weren't friends and people didn't get along and like everybody kind of just fucking hated
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each other and then recently over the last like four or five years people have started to like
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realize like oh shit we're kind of on this little boat all together and we should sort of work
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together otherwise the entire government system and everything that we have going on makes it hard
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for us to exist you know i feel like there's been a lot more uh i don't know friendships maybe it's
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just me i don't know i think you know the internet's not great for some things but i do think it has
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brought people in some ways closer together yeah i think you know when we when i first got in
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like i didn't know a bunch of owners from back then but i think things are more siloed you know you
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didn't really interact with that people that much except at trade shows now it's like you
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you never know if somebody's going to be the same way they are online but like you know i i had a
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pretty good idea coming to meet you like you and sal were going to be the same way yeah you are on
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social and i think like you think i'm probably the same way for sure so like you can kind of get a
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feel for oh you know i think i'd vibe with this person i think we'd get along that sort of thing
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um whereas before you know if it's just like you're seeing another company's ads in a magazine
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or something like that or you know it's so easy to become adversarial you know and i think now
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it's kind of like i just want to see good people win yeah you know because to me if i take care of
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my stuff like my stuff's gonna be fine you know i don't need to be in competition with somebody else
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yeah uh question number one uh guys in a recent andy graham uh andy you have mentioned learning
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to forgive others uh that made mistakes does that mean you still need to be friends with them
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after you forgive them um it's hard after friendship trust gets broken uh to still talk
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to them what's your take on this forgiveness uh and continuing relationships yeah no i don't think
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you have to continue to be friends in fact i think you should be very selective on who you call
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your friends and i think that who your friends should be should be people like lane has just
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talked about a minute ago that want you to win that are willing to help you win even when that's
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uncomfortable so that's that's a a criteria that is very hard for people to stand up and step into
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um for a lot of different reasons you know it could be their background it could be you know where
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they come from it could be their level of insecurity but it's very rare that we can find people
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that truly want us to win and are happy for us when we win and um when you find those people who
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want you to win who are happy for you when you win and who also help you win and sometimes you have
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to understand that helping you win is maybe telling you some shit that you would rather not hear but
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need to hear um those are your friends man and outside of that those people aren't your friends and so
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i think the term friend gets tossed around very loosely today especially with social media which
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is kind of you know what we were talking about earlier i feel like everybody thinks that everybody's
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their friend and i can tell you for experience and extensive life experience you have very few
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friends if you think you have a lot of friends you do not have a lot of friends you have a lot of
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people you know you have very few friends your real friends you know they're going to contribute to
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your life in every single way possible they're not going to install seeds of doubt in your brain
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they're not going to cut you down they're not going to be the person like this right because we have
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two kinds of people we have the kind of people that'll tell you you're great tell you're great
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tell you're great even when you're not great and those people come along after you've had some
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success when you've had some success the most dangerous one yeah bro they're going to come along
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and they're going to tell you you're the best you're the greatest yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and and dude
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you'll believe it because you know you have some proof of that in reality so you're starting to
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think like okay yeah i am the best and then you have the other kind of person and the other kind of
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person is equally as damaging these are the kind of people that think that because everybody tells
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you yes that they are required to always tell you no and they are always required to tell you
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you know you're not as good as you think you are and they'll say things like this they'll say
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look man i'm not going to be one of these people that kisses your ass and they'll they'll preface
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everything they say like that or hey andy i know everybody's always kissing your ass so you know
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somebody's got to tell you and those people will constantly tell you all the negative shit so you
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have to find the people who are real the people who will tell you when you're doing good but also
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like lane said a minute ago about his buddy mike they'll say hey that's not you bro don't do that
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you know what i'm saying and those people are few and far between and and you should and you should
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try to be one of those people as much as you possibly can to as many people as you can but
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you should also expect that not many people are going to live up to that back to you and so when
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people fuck with you or they do something wrong or they fuck you over or i was talking to one of my
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good friends yesterday uh he had this guy you know him too uh honey okay and i was talking to honey
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and we were talking about a relationship that he had with a previous athlete this previous athlete had
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basically trashed him in public said all kinds of lies about him did all this stuff and then came
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around years later and tried to apologize and honey's like dude you and this is to me right he's
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telling me this he's like dude this guy has no idea the pain the stress the frustration the damage
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that he's caused to something that i've worked my whole life to create and you know i don't have any
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hard feelings but fuck that guy you know and like that's sometimes where you need to draw the boundary
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you know like we have to be real we we can forgive people we can say hey it's all good and never talk
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to them again and let them go live their life and in fact it's usually a good idea because if you
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continue to forgive those people and then let them close to you again that likelihood of them repeating
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the same kind of shit over and over again is very high and that's coming from someone who's 44 years old
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who's had enough of these experiences to at some points in my life make me very bitter about people
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so i think um i'm not a mental health expert but uh one of my friends john deloney is and he says
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you know forgiveness is not for the other person forgiveness is for you right now i guess where i
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stand is and i'm definitely more on the side of like somebody apologized to me i'm like immediately
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like gonna pull him back in that sort of stuff i think what i would say you and i are so much alike
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like that i think what i would say is um you know the context is important like what was the what was
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the disagreement over what was the how did they hurt you right like if it's like oh they were two hours
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late for dinner or didn't show up or something like that okay yeah of course that's one thing
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somebody stole money from you somebody you know lied about you somebody really harmed you in some way
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compromise values yeah end of the day it's kind of like you have to make that decision whether or not
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you think that's a friendship worth continuing what i will say is like make them prove it you know
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don't put them in a position where they can hurt you like that until they have consistently proven it
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i think the one thing that stood out to me when you were talking about like the the right kind of friends
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is will somebody show up for you even if it doesn't benefit them right in some way now at some point
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um and i've said this to a number of friends like man i hope i know i hope i don't ever have to repay
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you this way showing up for you this way because i mean you're in a hard place but you know i would
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i would love to be able to show up for you the way you've shown up for me you know um and so that's
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why i think the friendship is reciprocal but it's not like what can you do for me what can i do for you
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it's like i love this person i think they're a great person how can i support them best you know
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and um so you really have to make that decision whether how much you value it how long was the
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friendship you know how many times did they show up for you was this just a that's what people do
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stuff out of character sometimes like it happens especially when they want shit yeah i think that's
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an important point you're hitting on there brother you have to evaluate was the friend ever really a
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friend was this person ever really your friend or were they along for the ride or were they there
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because you knew them from way back in the day like just because you've known someone for five
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years or you 10 years or you went to high school with them or you went to college with them that
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doesn't mean that they're your friend dude that just known them yeah that's correct but like we have
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this idea that everybody's friends and that doesn't make what i'm now that doesn't make everybody
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else your enemy there's three classes of people here right there's there's enemies then there's
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acquaintances people that you know and generally like and can drink a beer with and hang out with and be
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cool and then you got friends and that friend group should be really tight really small and um
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that's been the experience of my life and you and i i think are a lot alike dude you know we give
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people the benefit of the doubt we give a lot of grace um we we when people wrong us we want to
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forgive them because we want to resolve the issue but we have to also be smart to not invite these
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issues back into our lives from someone who has a faulty character trait for example right
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sometimes people just can't be there and be the right kind of friend that we have or that we need
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i'm sorry i think one of the things that i heard that was um that i've used a lot is you can love
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someone from a distance yeah you know what i mean yeah like sometimes you can love somebody i'm not
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just talking about romantic relationships right you know friendships too you can love somebody
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and know that their family you can love somebody and know that their presence in your life is not
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good for you like does somebody you know and and i think like so again john i'm gonna i'm gonna use him
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he always when people will call his show and he has a great podcast by the way everybody should listen
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to it when people call his show he'll talk about i never thought about this he's like he'll identify
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what's happening in their body what's happening in your body right and he'll talk about it i never
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thought about anxiety and stress that way right but like it does show up in your body we think about it
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all here right but it shows up in your body and i know like and i went through a lot of stress over
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the last couple years and once i started making changes to like get out of the things that were
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really causing me a lot of stress i mean not only did i feel better i physically got stronger in the
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gym yeah like pretty rapidly i mean it was crazy how it works out yeah and so when you're around somebody
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do you do you generally feel at ease do you feel like you can be yourself do you feel like you can let
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your guard down or do you feel like you know like i got to protect myself like i got to have my guard
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up if i say that like you want to be around people who put you at ease yeah right like it's almost like
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a regulation you know what i mean and even if you got to have a hard conversation can you have that hard
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conversation and still feel a little bit of a sense of peace because i mean some people will say
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nobody likes hard conversations with people they love like it's it's it always sucks but
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can you can they do it in a way can you do it in a way in their presence because sometimes it's a
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dynamic right it's not just one person it's a dynamic but can you do it in a way where you still
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feel safe and you feel at ease those are the kind of people you want to have around you but if you're
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like you know feel like you're whether it's a family member friend romantic partner you're like
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walking on eggshells all the time you're constantly you know kind of in defense mode
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they may not be a bad person but they're bad for you you know yeah i think one of the things too
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it's like you know this misconception your friend group is going to change yeah and that's okay
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yep like that's okay and like i'm young but it's gonna change many many times that's what i'm saying
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i'm young and i've been through three different friend groups just in my lifetime my short lifetime
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now and it's like just getting to the point where it's like it's okay like that's fine you know like
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not like you know and i think what it is because i was over thinking about it you know you watch these
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movies growing up as a kid and you know watch movies like little rascals and you're like oh man
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we're gonna be friends forever and so you have this like uh this expectation that you know your
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friends you grew up with that from the neighborhood or the you know the school you went to like you're
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going to be lifelong friends and like the reality is those things like those situations are so far
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fewer in between it doesn't happen you know i'm saying so like knowing that like your purpose in
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life is to grow and elevate that means the people around you are going to have to grow and elevate
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or just change and change in in general some people are there for good and some people are
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there for a season yeah and i also think dude i think it's important for us like what you said
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about loving them from afar i think it's important to recognize that the world you would be a lot
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happier and i'm speaking to all of you you would be a lot happier if you would take the position
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that you can not be as close of friends with someone and still want them to win still want them to do
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good still be there if they need something like bro i take the approach of like being at ease around
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everybody until they give me a reason not to yeah you know and uh but i also take the approach of
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not letting people in my proximity as easily as i once did so um i don't know i think navigating
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these issues is definitely something with nuance and there's all kinds of ways you can look at it
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but ultimately you know dj's correct your friend group's going to evolve you're going to grow and if
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you're not growing and your friendship isn't your friend group isn't evolving it's probably a sign
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that that you need to maybe do some growth on your own yeah because they can leave you just as easily
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yeah dude yeah and just you know make sure again back to the kind of the core question
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is i don't i think people are their habits you know they're not we've all done stuff at one time
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that was outside of our character yeah you know and so and none of us are perfect right and so and by
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the way bro guess what you're probably going to do some shit outside your character again at some
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point in your life and so will i and so will him and so will everybody here listening yeah you know
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that's that's the unfortunate uh condition called being human yeah so i think again that careful
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balance between accountability and shame right where it's like um being able to because you can be too
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easy on yourself you're like well i don't you know i'm human this and that people can justify a lot
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of stuff by saying well i'm you're human yeah you know oh no i'm not saying that as an excuse no no
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right i'm saying that from the because like dude remember we come from the place of the internal
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dialogue that like my internal dialogue when i fuck up is not like oh bro you know it's all good
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everything's gonna be fine it's like bro you're the biggest fucking piece of shit that walks the face
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like that's my shit is like you guys think i'm hard on everybody else dude if you heard my internal
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shit you know and people are gonna say well that's unhealthy no shit yeah yeah no and it's i again so
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you be pointed out it's it's nuanced right at the end of the day you me dj we're not gonna be able to
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tell you like should you still have a relationship with somebody who hurt you it's really going to boil
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down to your values their values and all we'll say all i'll say is you know if you choose to bring
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that person back in your life okay just do it stepwise and pay attention and pay attention and
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you know be open but also protect yourself right don't put them in a position where they can hurt you
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yeah that's real shit man uh guys question number two uh i'm a first year med student and i'm getting
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my ass kicked uh it's only been a month there's a lot thrown at me at once and i constantly feel
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behind i know to improve it's a combination of managing my time better and me not being efficient
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with the work that i'm doing um i don't believe i have built the proper skill set just yet um i have
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been using the powerless but i'm only finishing two or three of my five critical tasks that i need
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to get done each day the problem is everything compounds uh and the work still needs to get done
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regardless uh andy do you guys have any advice for time management and more importantly how do i make
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sure i'm working more efficiently so um i think knowing yourself this is a very individual thing so i was
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somebody i have very severe adhd i was diagnosed when i was six years old when i was doing grad
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school undergrad um things didn't really come easy for me like i had to study a lot and um i think a
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lot of times we we end up comparing ourselves to other people and that like we feel like oh i'm doing
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this wrong there must be something wrong i know for me first off when i study i'm gonna lay on the
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ground i don't know why i can't be at a desk right the other thing i'm gonna do is i'm gonna go
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hard for 30 40 minutes with background noise i don't know why i can't study in silence
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and then i'm gonna take a 10 to 20 minute break because i just know for me if i try to go hard
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for multiple hours once i get hour one two it's like now i've got to take an even longer break to
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reset myself now i'm not saying this is what this person should do but i know myself i found that over
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time i think the other thing is really it sounds like and i i'm i'm kind of trying to read between
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the lines it sounds like he's getting a little bit overwhelmed and then that like has a freeze
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response yes you go i i can't do anything i've been there i can tell you there have been so many
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times in my life where i'm like there is no way i can get done everything i need to get done
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and you can start to stew in that and then not do anything and then by the time you actually try
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to get it done after you've gone through that anxiety like then it is too late what i'll say is
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like try to disconnect your feelings and go into execution mode maybe you can't get it all done
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but stewing about it is not going to change anything so focus on okay what is the most pressing
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uh like what is something what is the thing that is most important that is also very time sensitive
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let's work on that right now right um where in in the case of school you know usually what i look at
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is okay this area of this topic let's say in biochemistry i feel like i've got this down pretty
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good i'm struggling here now i could i'm at 95 here i could put more time in and get to 100 or i could
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go over to this thing where i'm at 60 put in the same amount of time maybe i get to 80 that's a
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bigger gain right so i'm gonna look at where my deficiencies are and the other thing too is like
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honestly and i i've never went to med school i again i was a phd research scientist but
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man i i i got my money's worth out of my professors like i was at their door asking questions you know
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and if not them then the teacher's assistants like you're paying a lot of money to be in med school
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those people should be supporting you so if you need help go get help get in a study group that's
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another thing i did like being involved with study groups that helped me a lot because just
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conversating with people and it's kind of like lifting have you ever gone in for lifting and um
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like i'm trying to show somebody how to squat i can explain to squat five different ways of whatever
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way on the fifth way of me giving them that cue it clicks right sometimes explaining you know in
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because they're obviously a scientist if they're in med school explaining a mechanism in a different
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way or just hearing somebody else repeat it back to you for whatever reason all of a sudden it clicks
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so i think being involved in study groups is a great idea the other thing i'll say i think
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because when i was at every level i was like man this is overwhelming this overwhelming this
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overwhelming now i look at like okay owning you know either owning or having a piece of four different
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businesses um that include over you know 20 30 employees um and having two kids one of whom is
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special needs and then like a bunch of other stuff i'm doing competing like if i write it all down
00:23:52.580
i'm like oh man you know but i have gotten to the point where i can manage that over time
00:24:00.060
because i built that resilience and when i look back at what used to overwhelm me when i was doing
00:24:06.640
my phd i'm like oh that's nothing compared to now you know but you you can't acclimate to it you
00:24:12.720
acclimate to yes that's people think there's like this like i used to think this that there was like
00:24:17.160
a defined amount of willpower and now psychologists have debunked this so like there's really there's no
00:24:22.120
limit on this but there probably is a limit at the moment in time where you're at because you have
00:24:28.100
it's like progressive overload for life the more difficult stuff you do and get through the more
00:24:32.980
difficult stuff you can do and get through and so what i'll say is you may feel overwhelmed i'm not
00:24:42.940
saying your overwhelm isn't real but your feelings will lie to you try to go into execution mode just focus
00:24:49.160
on moving your feet forward with whatever you can do and getting support where you need it and
00:24:56.940
here's the one other thing that i think a lot of people need to hear you can't prioritize everything
00:25:02.360
all at the same time people talk a lot about life balance okay i think over the course of your entire
00:25:08.220
life you should have a balance between work life family friends but at any one cross section of time
00:25:17.180
you are going to be unbalanced in some direction correct right when i was in grad school i was
00:25:23.400
lifting and grad school and that was pretty much it there wasn't a whole lot of time for socializing i
00:25:28.380
did a little bit but it was pretty rare right but i that was fine with me because i knew what i was
00:25:33.560
there for right then when i got out of grad school i was you know biased towards you know competing
00:25:39.100
um and my businesses and then when my kids were born i was more biased towards like
00:25:44.780
this shifts over time and i think a lot of people get anxiety because they feel like they should be
00:25:51.460
able to prioritize it all at once and listen we're all about like hey good nutrition training but hey
00:25:56.880
while you're in med school maybe you're just trying to maintain what you have right like you're getting
00:26:01.260
in two times a week because right now you have to focus on this because this is the priority because
00:26:06.060
you're probably spending three four hundred thousand dollars to be there right if that's
00:26:09.280
really important to you right right so pick your priorities and realize not everything can be a
00:26:15.580
priority at the same time yeah dude i like all that i i especially like the part that you talk about
00:26:21.740
acclimation because when you first start something new you know he said it's only been a month
00:26:29.600
it's no different than we were talking about the cold plunge in the locker room all right the first
00:26:35.680
time you get in some cold water it doesn't have to be a cold plunge it could be a cold swimming pool
00:26:39.360
if this swimming pool could be you know 75 degrees and you get in you're like oh this is cold 10 minutes
00:26:45.300
later you're splashing around like an idiot and you don't even notice it all right and this is how
00:26:50.360
your skill set and stress management will work over the course of your life you are overwhelmed now
00:26:57.020
because this level of load is new to you now and the best thing that you could do is not to go
00:27:03.600
listen to one of these hippie motherfuckers on the internet about balance the best thing you could do
00:27:08.620
no for real the best dude i'm just being honest man balance like you're gonna dude these these kids
00:27:14.280
now they see these motherfuckers out here fucking kids bro in the van traveling the world living
00:27:19.720
those motherfuckers gonna be broke in 10 years bro like you don't i've already seen this i've seen
00:27:24.260
what those people end up becoming you guys think that shit's new because it's not new the same
00:27:30.560
thing was when i was a kid like there was still those people like when i was out hustling when i
00:27:35.320
was building my business and they were telling me bro you're working way too hard you need to live
00:27:40.260
your life you need some balance you need this you need that and now these same motherfuckers are
00:27:44.740
asking me for a fucking job okay so i fucking know exactly what the fuck that's about like real talk
00:27:49.880
i've experienced it my life it's not new so when you're overwhelmed and you have the propensity or
00:27:56.620
you know the inclination to read some of this shit on the internet that says oh i need to get some
00:28:04.100
balance and then you go away from the overwhelm what you're doing is you're deconditioning yourself
00:28:10.220
to handle the load that you need to be able to handle so you're only prolonging the pain so the
00:28:15.660
reality is is you should lean into the overwhelm learn how to handle it and you will acclimate to
00:28:21.000
it and what will happen as you acclimate to it you become more effective and more efficient and then
00:28:25.360
some time opens up all right you start to have more time for other things and so when we talk about
00:28:31.000
you know how to handle these difficult situations we've got to be real you're not equipped to handle
00:28:37.840
that yet you're just not equipped and it's day one bro this is build mode like when you start a
00:28:43.020
business i just had this talk with one of my teams yesterday this is build mode and build mode
00:28:49.640
it is 24 fucking seven that's the way it fucking works if you want to build something all right and
00:28:55.060
you're trying to build a life you're trying to build a medical career we need good doctors all right
00:28:59.820
it's important that you see this through so my advice would be lean into this give it another six
00:29:05.620
months and what will happen is you're going to look back and be like man i can't believe i thought it
00:29:10.180
was that hard yeah you know and that's how it'll end up being like if this was three years from now
00:29:14.600
and you're asking this question okay maybe there's some issues with efficiency one thing that i i want
00:29:19.600
to point out man because i think it's so important that i've learned just you know since i've been with
00:29:24.820
you but more importantly than the last couple of weeks man it's like you know i think so often people
00:29:30.980
when they're getting into something and they start getting these these feelings whether it's anxiety
00:29:36.360
whether whatever it is they look at them as if like these are problems and these are reasons why
00:29:41.820
i should not be doing this when the reality is you're doing this this is what comes with this
00:29:47.780
dude this is how it's supposed to be absolutely bro let me ask you something and i'm at this
00:29:53.140
hypothetical for everybody listening tell me one good thing in your life that came without stress and
00:29:59.100
anxiety that exists it does not exist and when you feel the highest pressure the highest stress
00:30:05.320
and the highest anxiety when you're in the pursuit of something greater it's a good indication that
00:30:10.980
you're actually on the right path it's a position that you want to actually be in because once you
00:30:16.560
push through this time of extreme stress pressure and anxiety on the other side is the fucking promised
00:30:22.840
land that you've been looking for that nobody else ever gets to because the minute that they get
00:30:27.500
into that pressure stress and anxiety they read some bullshit on the internet and they go live in a
00:30:32.820
fucking van like that's what we're talking about here you're not it's a universal set dude we've all
00:30:40.240
heard it it's always darkest before the what the dawn before the dawn you have to push through the hard
00:30:47.740
to get to the place you're trying to get to and this is just a fundamental reality and we have so many
00:30:53.600
people on the internet trying to convince people that they found some other way okay so you're the first
00:31:00.060
person in 12 000 years of documented human history to find another way around this man dude you should
00:31:08.500
be the richest motherfucker on the planet then like you should you should you should have more money
00:31:12.960
than elon musk because you found it you have found the way to live your whole life free and easy and
00:31:20.120
pain-free and stress-free and anxiety-free and still fucking win like you found it bro congratulations
00:31:26.800
you're being the history book he doesn't have strong opinions about this i just i actually just gave a
00:31:33.360
talk like my talk at university of missouri yesterday was was kind of on this and i i called it i love to
00:31:39.740
relate things to lifting okay because obviously like something i'm passionate about but you're pretty
00:31:44.920
fucking good at it too thank you be real it's like progressive overload for life yeah right so if i like
00:31:51.040
my best ever squat was a 668 pound squat right if i went in the gym the first time it's all right
00:31:56.720
it's a little light if i if i went to the gym the first time and tried to do that what's going to
00:32:01.760
happen it's going to crumble you right even after if you couldn't even walk it out right even after a
00:32:06.940
few years it's going to crush me yeah right like and this guy he's been in school for a while he did
00:32:11.220
his undergrad obviously and now he's getting crushed it's like bro you're just not used to it yet yeah but
00:32:16.600
so even a 500 pound squat gonna crush me first time right but what happens and i it's funny i tell
00:32:22.580
people this like even though i can squat you know 600 plus pounds now 500 pounds doesn't feel any
00:32:28.680
different on my back it still feels heavy i just got better at handling it yes that's the only
00:32:34.280
difference yes okay 500 pounds is still 500 fucking pounds exactly and so henry rollins has a great
00:32:40.840
quote about that yeah it's always the way yeah and so this it should feel hard it's going to feel
00:32:48.900
hard but you're going to get better at handling it so just i love this is lifting term but just stay in
00:32:53.720
the pocket yeah you know what i mean sit in that discomfort stay in the pocket keep showing up you're
00:32:58.680
describing something that i describe in a different way so so i describe when people ask me like what is
00:33:04.320
success success is the commitment to the pursuit of your ultimate potential and the reason it's not
00:33:11.980
the pursuit of your ultimate potential or the realization of your ultimate potential is because
00:33:17.380
your ultimate potential can never actually be realized because of what you how you explain
00:33:22.400
progressive overload for life when you go out and you set out to do anything in life whether that be
00:33:28.780
lifting weights or building a business or anything else you have x amount of potential because you
00:33:35.380
have x skill set but as you go down the path and you get crumbled by the weight a few times and you get
00:33:42.360
back up and you put it back on your back and you do a few more reps what happens is is your hypothetical
00:33:48.920
skill set for life because that's what we're talking about here not weights gets stronger and more equipped
00:33:55.580
and when you have better skill set for life your potential on the back end expands okay so when
00:34:03.420
you think about this and you think about like where you want to be long term you have to understand that
00:34:11.340
where you want to be long term as you are right now will not be where you want to be long term in
00:34:18.200
five years from now because you're gonna you're gonna open up a whole new potential because of the skill
00:34:23.480
set that you gained during this five-year journey of hard shit and so that's how true real massive
00:34:32.360
great things are built in life is by consistently raising the bar before you get to the bar because
00:34:38.500
you're recognizing that your skill set is improved your potential is greater and still committing to
00:34:44.900
pursuing it even though you understand that you'll never actually realize it so this is this is the way
00:34:51.000
that like the people who build the biggest shit who who live the fullest lives who do the most shit
00:34:57.260
over the course of their life who become the people who shape the culture and change the world this is
00:35:03.200
how they see the world and this is how they operate they're raising the bar before they get to the bar
00:35:07.760
because they understand that their capabilities have expanded and i think um you cannot even have a an idea
00:35:15.960
of how capable you could possibly be in a few years if you continue to develop those skills yeah because
00:35:20.920
again like i remember it's light years right yeah i remember you know hitting my first 400 pound squat and
00:35:27.520
feeling how heavy that was and i could never have a and that's after that was after six seven years of
00:35:35.140
lifting yeah could never have fathomed the 668 pound squat right but six months before i hit that 668 pound
00:35:42.980
squat well i could fathom it you know i could taste it yeah you know but it's it had to be grown over
00:35:48.680
time and again go through a lot of hard stuff and i think the other thing people in this situation you
00:35:56.000
mentioned it like they go into something they get knocked down or they come up against that stress
00:36:00.840
that anxiety they feel like something's wrong no no you're right where you need to be
00:36:04.020
and the question is i tell people i truly believe the only reason people quit on stuff they're
00:36:11.480
passionate about is to protect their ego because they go what if i put everything into this and it
00:36:20.860
doesn't work out no no no if you don't put everything into it it's not going to work that's
00:36:25.640
right go all in like go all in for that that what if question that what if that exact what if
00:36:32.640
question costs almost every motherfucker their entire dreams in life yep and the other thing
00:36:38.000
i'll tell people this is kind of a separate topic but i'll say over planning paralysis by analysis and
00:36:44.160
perfectionism has killed more dreams than failure ever could failure is a great teacher and like
00:36:51.320
there's so many people it's the only real teacher bro yeah and i i gave a talk in canada and i was
00:36:59.740
kind of like i just thought of this on the spot i i said you know what when i was doing my phd i got
00:37:05.840
to the point where i almost got put on probation from the program i was so um despondent and i was
00:37:11.440
actually making pretty good money at the time from coaching i'm like i don't need this aggravation
00:37:15.800
you know and i remember having this like this internal talk of man i could put everything in this
00:37:22.040
maybe i won't maybe i won't get it and i i just remember thinking yeah but let's find out yeah
00:37:27.260
and i that was that became the talk was like let's find out right maybe not but let's find out and i
00:37:33.320
promise you even if you don't get that the resilience you will acquire from actually putting in the work
00:37:40.360
and giving it your all is going to translate into something else and i what was crazy is um the guys who
00:37:49.520
organized the seminar they started sending me texts like four different people got let's find out
00:37:53.840
tattooed on them after that after that seminar but it's like yeah you you you if you're going to try
00:38:01.340
something hard there's no other way than to really give it your all and but it's scary because it's
00:38:07.920
like what if i did give it at all and i just wasn't good enough at least you know dude that what if
00:38:13.800
question you know i've been in the personal development game for you know at a high level
00:38:18.560
for about 10 years and that question i think what if i do all this work and it doesn't work
00:38:28.280
i think that is the biggest fucking lie that's that people tell themselves in any way shape or form
00:38:36.120
ever about anything because i believe it's not even possible i believe that if you and i've seen this
00:38:44.320
i don't have a single case that i can point to and say here's the exception to this rule i'm not a single
00:38:50.880
one if you do the work the result will come you may not become exactly what you wanted to become like
00:39:00.960
let's say i want to become lebron james all right i'm not becoming lebron james because i'm not 6 8
00:39:07.020
all right and i'm not the level of athlete that that man is but if i wanted to become pretty good
00:39:12.080
at basketball i could probably get pretty good at basketball if i showed up every day and i did my
00:39:17.720
drills and shot my free throws and did my three uh my three pointers and did my dribbles and did all
00:39:23.340
this shit in five ten years i'm pretty fucking good that's reality okay same thing with you
00:39:30.860
over here with jiu-jitsu you're a new guy at jiu-jitsu so to speak if you give another five
00:39:36.260
years to jiu-jitsu dude there there could be no limit to where you go you could be the guy in the
00:39:41.100
ufc ring we don't know but this idea that that people do all this work and then somehow it like
00:39:49.580
doesn't create anything is a fucking lie it's not reality it's that's something that is told by our
00:39:56.640
loser friends or our loser parents or our loser teachers or people who don't know what the fuck
00:40:02.580
they're talking about that talk you out of just going down the path you have to go down the path
00:40:08.000
and and you have to go before you believe in it because the work will always come before the belief
00:40:14.600
all right after you do a little work and you start like you see a little bit of result you're
00:40:20.040
going to start saying wow just like you just explained lane wow did you come to my talk no but
00:40:25.880
this is real that's because this is reality and we're both realists that's the way okay this is
00:40:32.220
that's because this is how fucking works it's universal this ain't my shit this is just how the
00:40:36.020
fuck it works if you do the work you're going to get a little bit of result when you start to get a
00:40:41.540
little bit of result you start to say oh and it clicks and you're like okay i did this work i got a
00:40:47.400
little bit of result then you're like well fuck all right i'm gonna do a little bit more and then
00:40:51.820
you do a little bit more and you get a little more result and it clicks again and then all of a sudden
00:40:55.680
now you start to understand how the game works in reality and then you're all in and when you go all
00:41:00.860
in and you start going down the path with the belief that you can become whatever it is that you
00:41:04.880
can become your limits become literally uh limitless i love that two things you said walking the path
00:41:12.680
so that that gets into the like i tell people like just start executing yeah stop fucking
00:41:18.660
over analyzing this stuff and just start doing because if you're walking the path sure maybe you
00:41:24.960
stumble maybe you fall down but other paths will start to open up to you as well okay that you don't
00:41:30.360
even know exist yet when you're walking the path but if you never start you're not going to have those
00:41:34.820
opportunities and it's just the other thing that this made me think of was there's so many like
00:41:41.800
books and seminars on how to develop confidence i i can tell you what develops confidence in 10
00:41:49.540
seconds do attempt really hard shit go through really stressful times where you don't think
00:41:58.380
you're going to make it and keep going that's what develops confidence because when you've been
00:42:03.480
through some shit and got through it you go but the next time life punches you in the face you go
00:42:09.360
okay maybe i'm maybe i'm i'm not going to stay down i can get through like the stuff i've been
00:42:15.500
through in the last five years if that had happened to me when i was 20 oh dude no fucking way you know
00:42:20.600
what i mean it would break me but i mean it's again progressive overload for life right the only way
00:42:28.220
you can develop true confidence is to attempt hard stuff run up against the obstacles get through those
00:42:34.940
and i can tell you whenever you like you and me you and i've talked about this when i think about
00:42:40.940
the accomplishments that i've gotten i don't sit there and look at the trophies i don't sit there and
00:42:46.880
look at the degree that's not what i think about what i think about is the really hard shit i went through
00:42:53.080
to get to it that's what i remember fondly if you just have everything go right and get something
00:42:59.220
it's going to be like you know uh dave ramsey has a saying you eat enough lobster it tastes like soap
00:43:04.080
right yeah that's that's because and the same reason why people who win the lottery are broke in
00:43:10.660
five years because you didn't have to go through anything it did life didn't teach you none of those
00:43:16.400
skill sets that you gain that you would gain during the normal path were acquired exactly right
00:43:23.160
it's easy come easy go exactly love that man that's some true shit some more of the bargain
00:43:27.640
no that's some true shit what you're saying about ramsey said too about like people don't realize
00:43:34.640
that like when you when you you acclimate to anything oh yeah okay so like all right and i'm
00:43:41.120
not saying this to be an asshole but like i could eat whatever the fuck i want every single day all
00:43:45.080
right and like not saying calorie wise but i'm talking quality wise sure all right like if i wanted to
00:43:50.080
eat the best fucking steak for dinner that the world has to offer every single fucking night of
00:43:55.420
my life i could and in fact i did that for a while you know what started happening i started not
00:44:02.040
appreciating it and so i told emily i said don't get those steaks anymore go back to the regular steaks
00:44:08.020
because my friends used to sell me send me these like gourmet steaks i forget where they're from they're
00:44:12.580
from new york and um i fucking loved them so much i started ordering them they were expensive as fuck but
00:44:18.000
i didn't give a shit right like this is what the fuck i work for i'm gonna eat fucking the best
00:44:21.640
steaks ever right and i got so used to eating them that like i was like this is it like this is it
00:44:29.160
and so dude i intentionally went back to like just getting the regular shit from the grocery store
00:44:34.260
because i wanted to be able to appreciate the good steak when i had a good steak and so we have to
00:44:40.080
be aware of these things in our lives that we become so accustomed to even the good things and
00:44:45.560
sometimes intentionally make things hard so that we can keep our edge and keep our appreciation our
00:44:50.440
gratitude for the the really truly good things in life you have to reset that yeah yeah and i i like
00:44:56.540
i've i told people like i'm you know i do well for myself and i'm very grateful that it's been a step
00:45:02.580
wise 20 year process and i didn't just hit it big really quickly yeah because there's just been
00:45:09.420
little things along the way where it's i remember like the first time i had a hundred dollar bottle of
00:45:14.280
wine yeah i'm like oh this is cool yeah you know like i still got to have those little wins whereas
00:45:19.920
like you know if you have it come quick i mean you can blow your wand you know you can punch that
00:45:25.320
dopamine out pretty quick yeah you know what i mean and uh it doesn't mean anything anymore right
00:45:30.220
exactly and so again no matter what you make what your job is whatever um it's going to come down to
00:45:39.440
none of that's going to make you happy it's feeling like what you do has value and that
00:45:46.740
your work has meaning to me yeah and so like don't get me wrong i want to make a lot of money
00:45:53.520
i want a whole boatload of it you know but i know that that's not going to make me happy all that's
00:45:59.100
going to do is give me an opportunity to buy some of my time back to do more of the stuff i like to do
00:46:02.360
guys andy we got one final question this is this is a good one um andy i'm 18 years old
00:46:12.740
and i was raised in a single parent household by my mother she did her best to guide me but i have
00:46:19.720
massive anxiety when it comes to feeling prepared as a man never met my father no real desire to
00:46:26.720
either but i've never really had any real man figures to learn from um i see a lot of men online
00:46:33.220
who i feel i can learn from but i don't necessarily connect uh with the macho macho cut down trees
00:46:39.760
mentality that they define a man of having um what are your thoughts on this i would love your insight
00:46:46.360
well first of all you know i think it's important to recognize that just because you didn't grow up with
00:46:55.900
a father doesn't mean that you can't be a great father or a great dad or a great man all right
00:47:00.160
that's that's that's the first thing in fact the likelihood of someone who's grown up with a shitty
00:47:06.340
dad or as a shitty father figure to actually be a good father figure and a good dad is much higher
00:47:12.100
than someone who grew up with a good one because it's no different than someone who grows up rich
00:47:17.240
and then uh it's generational wealth situation right where you have the the the founders and they do
00:47:23.620
very well they build something from scratch then their kids come in and they fuck it up they become
00:47:28.080
poor then they have kids and those kids don't want to be like their parents so they work very hard so
00:47:32.780
you have this like every other generation type situation and i've seen this over and over again
00:47:38.900
with people who grew up without a dad who decide that they want to be a great dad in fact that's you
00:47:45.040
all right um my father too yeah and and so you should see that want and that desire that you have
00:47:53.700
inside to be a good man as a tremendous asset to your life because a lot of people take it for granted
00:48:00.080
and they don't even think along those lines so you were gifted with something that like a lot of people
00:48:05.540
aren't really ever going to have so recognize that to start that's a big deal okay because if you want
00:48:10.940
to be great you have to have the will and want to be great and you can't have the will or want to be
00:48:16.100
great unless you can recognize that there's something that needs to change and you've been gifted with
00:48:19.820
that perspective and i would see that as a gift not as a not as a disadvantage so that's the first
00:48:25.620
thing the second thing is you know when it comes down to this uh cut your tree down you know masculinity
00:48:33.380
man i i understand yeah dude i get that too like because that's you know it's it's way overcooked
00:48:38.860
right um you know we have we have a lot of really dumb shit out there when it comes to being a good
00:48:44.760
man you know um i think this person your gut of who you connect with and who you recognize to be a
00:48:52.600
good strong solid man example is probably going to be the right person to follow uh we have good gut
00:48:59.020
instincts naturally especially when we apply our own perspective that whether we're aware of that
00:49:04.500
perspective or not aware of it we understand okay this makes sense to me this sounds good to me this
00:49:10.140
looks good to me it passes the sniff test and you should be able to you know um recognize that and
00:49:18.680
there's nothing wrong with saying like this isn't for me because dude i gotta be real with you like
00:49:22.760
there's a lot of this masculinity shit going around and while i agree that masculinity is very
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important i think that it's misrepresented by a lot of the masculinity figures out here um
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maybe even me sometimes you know uh you know i curse a lot you know i do have a beard i work out
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you know like i you know but i don't sell myself as that that's not yeah that's not my brand makes
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me a man but like yeah but like dude i see this with people in their content right like people will
00:49:51.200
try to replicate my level of content or my style of content not recognizing that that's authentically who
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the fuck i am right so we have to be authentic as well so my advice here if like dude if you really
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want to look at like who a good man is without this overly like look at my brother like look at my
00:50:08.820
brother sal you should follow my brother sal like he's a dad he's a husband he works his ass off
00:50:13.700
there isn't a person i know that works fucking harder than him and he's a ethically grounded
00:50:19.000
moral person with high fucking standards for the people around him and he does the right thing he
00:50:24.760
helps people out uh he doesn't let people take advantage of him he's he has boundaries i mean
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like when i think of a like a good example it's really hard for me to find one that i would recommend
00:50:35.800
more than him and that's you know that's coming from somebody who's watched it materialize and i'm not
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saying that because he's my brother i'm saying that because it's the truth um but you know all in all
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man here's the reality be a good person work to be the best that you can work hard do the right
00:50:55.380
thing treat people right pick people up do good things for people live the code you know what i'm
00:51:00.820
saying do do onto others what you would want done onto you even when they don't do onto you the way
00:51:06.860
that you would expect them to you know there's there's these are basic things these are have high
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integrity you know when you fuck up like we talked about earlier own it and say hey i fucked up that's my
00:51:17.820
bad right all of these qualities make up what i believe a true masculine man to be and i think
00:51:25.180
it's misrepresented and kind of overcompensated right now because we've spent the last 20 years
00:51:31.840
demasculating men you know what i'm saying like other than that yeah we've been making trying to make
00:51:37.000
men feminine in reality is they have they've put atrazine in the tap water and they've worked to put
00:51:42.620
chemicals into food that reduce natural testosterone production like they're it's a scientific reality
00:51:48.380
that the average testosterone of a young man now is much less than it was 25 years ago so these are
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things that have been intentionally removed from society through you know whether it be uh food or
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chemicals or social movements such as the me too movement or the feminist movement or any of these
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movements that have basically villainized men for being men toxic masculinity right we've been the
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enemy for a long fucking time now so it's very important to recognize and realize that we're
00:52:20.600
overcompensating some on the back end right now and some of this shit that you see out here like you
00:52:25.280
don't have to go uh you don't have to be a bow hunter you don't have to be someone who walks through
00:52:30.360
the woods with a fucking axe or a chainsaw like you don't have to pose real hard in your pictures like
00:52:35.760
bro you you it's real simple like be a provider be a protector be a man of honor be a man of truth
00:52:42.740
be a good friend like these are simple things man give a fuck about people give a fuck about what's
00:52:48.220
going on that to me when i look at men that is more masculine to me than some dude with a fucking
00:52:54.880
beard and an axe pretending like he's some sort of hard ass yeah yeah i mean i think the the point i
00:53:01.160
would make is like just try to be a good person yeah in general i think you know everybody has their
00:53:05.280
own definition of what masculinity is and like a friend of the family that i grew up with i would
00:53:13.040
consider a very masculine person he was never loud he was never boisterous um you know but he had a
00:53:19.860
quiet confidence about him and i'm not saying you have to be quiet either because i'm not you know
00:53:23.820
no but that's masculine as well yeah so kind of like just i think the confidence of like stepping
00:53:29.020
into who you are yeah um and then i would say you know being able to lead you know and and make hard
00:53:38.020
decisions and like you said having good boundaries like being empathetic and being able to like be
00:53:45.180
soft when you need to be soft but also be a protector when you need to be a protector you know
00:53:48.980
those sorts of things and i think that's a hard balance to walk you know and i think it's pretty rare
00:53:54.080
but i think it's more about being a good person than just like the idea of being the right kind
00:54:01.040
of masculinity right but the fact that this kid is asking this question it means he's aware of it
00:54:05.180
he's gonna be okay yeah right exactly the aware doing self-introspective you know you're already
00:54:10.320
asking the hard questions so many people in life when bad stuff happens to them they just start they
00:54:16.100
immediately start pointing fingers because they can't take the the internal stuff i've been there
00:54:21.220
you know yeah we've all gone through um and so you know like it was like when i was getting ready
00:54:26.800
to be a dad i was like you know i'm worried about being a good dad and somebody said that's why you're
00:54:30.540
going to be you know yeah yeah dude the awareness creates the action that's needed to become right
00:54:35.980
yeah and i mean like you know i'll use a quote from my friend john deloney and how important it is to
00:54:42.400
have i mean having good fathers um because what i'm gonna butcher the quote but john's quote was
00:54:52.860
uh generational trauma is like a wildfire that rolls downhill and burns everything in its path until
00:54:59.740
one brave soul stands up and says not on my watch sorry i'm getting choked up thinking about it because
00:55:06.100
my dad um my dad uh his father was absent abandoned his family um he had abusive stepfathers um all of
00:55:16.140
his brothers you know had all kinds of issues um and my dad isn't perfect by any stretch but he you know
00:55:22.700
like he spanked me a couple times we never like actually put his hands on me as we would call it
00:55:26.800
and he was a great dad you know and he it was literally down to him he said you know i just decided
00:55:33.220
that i was going to be everything that my father wasn't yeah and i think the people that
00:55:37.500
that are actually able to make the difference it boils down to victim mentality versus accountability
00:55:44.420
i i can control how this happens like my story isn't written you can change right now in fact one
00:55:53.860
of my favorite quotes is when robert downey jr was on oprah all right this is years ago i got this out of
00:55:59.620
motivational video i saw and he's he was talking about his drug addiction and he said um you know
00:56:06.880
it's not that hard to get past all these seemingly ghastly problems in your life and oprah interrupted
00:56:16.780
him and was like wait you're saying it's not that hard he goes no what's hardest to decide because
00:56:23.300
you have to become somebody different like when when something gets so ingrained in who you are
00:56:30.160
even though you may know it's not good for you it's not who you want to be there's so much comfort
00:56:38.080
in what you know the human brain is wired to like basically hedge all your bets right it's not wired to
00:56:48.480
reach necessarily and so whenever even if you know i could have a better life things would be different
00:56:55.740
i would like who i am more it is so hard to get past the idea of being something different of doing
00:57:03.220
something different and um what one of the things i said on i think on huberman's podcast i said you
00:57:10.460
cannot i'm talking about like weight loss but this applies to anything you cannot become a different
00:57:17.380
person or the person you want to be while dragging all your old habits and behaviors behind you
00:57:23.240
and um ethan suplee you guys know either um he has dude yeah he has a phrase whenever he puts up a
00:57:31.260
picture from the gym he said i killed my clone today and if you talk to people who were addicts
00:57:38.720
or people who made drastic life changes you know their skills there are there are not tricks but you
00:57:46.940
know there's certain things that are evidence-based to do but at a certain point it just boils down to
00:57:52.320
you make a decision that this is not going to be like this anymore and it doesn't mean that you never
00:57:56.860
slip up again it doesn't mean that you don't you know screw up here and there but for the most part
00:58:01.540
you walk the path of being the person you want to be and if i think about the only times i've
00:58:07.800
really struggled with like truly feeling bad about who i was is when my actions were not in alignment
00:58:16.560
with the person i wanted to be and so like you get to make a choice every day about who is the person
00:58:25.580
i want to be and that boils down to on a grand scale it is the summation of little choices you make
00:58:33.900
every day and i'll tell everybody like listen again we talked about it like nobody's perfect
00:58:39.180
but be really careful about the small things that you let slide it is so easy this is coming from
00:58:47.540
somebody um and i don't mind talking about who had an affair okay first it started out as like
00:58:53.960
oh it's just nice to get some attention you know it wasn't like oh i didn't want that to happen
00:58:59.140
but i slowly like eroded what my hard boundary was yeah and eventually you wind up in a place where
00:59:08.200
you go how the fuck did that happen well i know how it happened this was my line i said you know that
00:59:15.080
lines it's okay you know no it's not okay that's right so having your i think again like getting back
00:59:22.380
to masculinity and ethics again nobody's perfect but having your mind like
00:59:30.600
and having kids now this really changes it would i want my daughter to grow up married to a guy like
00:59:40.060
me would i want my son to grow up to be someone like me and now i need to retroactively think about
00:59:47.700
how am i going to handle these situations with that being my mindset yeah and you know again i'm
00:59:55.220
not perfect and i still screw stuff up but that has been a little bit of a game changer in terms of
01:00:02.140
how i approach things yeah i got two things on this uh the first thing i would say is um again great
01:00:09.960
great being aware like you mentioned this was my life this was my my you and i have talked about
01:00:15.520
this a hundred times plenty of times and i think for me one thing that i kind of had to that i adapted
01:00:20.700
quickly with my perception of the world was that you know i i wasn't able to lean on what i didn't
01:00:27.300
know i leaned on what i knew right and i used the opposite meaning you know i didn't know what a good
01:00:32.460
dad looked like i knew what a bad one looked like so just don't do that right like when it came to
01:00:38.580
and that goes with anything i just was able to use the opposite but i would say this like
01:00:42.320
you know when it comes to being authentic you know you don't have to go chop down trees but you
01:00:49.060
should have the capacity to do it you don't have to be a violent person walking through mad every
01:00:53.760
single day but you should have the ability to be violent right like you you have to learn all of
01:00:58.220
these skills and i think as a man that's one of the most important things is being able to put on
01:01:02.400
these different hats metaphorical hats and being able to do that when you need to do that yeah like
01:01:08.160
if you have to be a protector be that right there in that moment if you have to be violent and handle
01:01:12.680
business be able to do it right um and to me that i mean that that's my biggest thing i think it's
01:01:18.180
great i mean being being that young i think i was probably around that same age when i started like
01:01:22.560
thinking about okay well shit like how old did he say was he's 18 okay now i think i was about the
01:01:27.080
same age when i was like okay well who am i supposed to be you know who you're supposed to be you
01:01:31.680
yeah and it's gonna take some time to get there yeah they're like knowing like knowing who you are
01:01:37.900
internally and then making sure the external manifests that you know just thinking about
01:01:41.800
what you said i remember what is the old chinese or japanese proverb which is better to be a warrior
01:01:47.040
in a garden than a gardener in a war right that's real shit man it's real well guys andy lane that was
01:01:53.860
three yeah hey lane thank you so much for coming on the show again bro thanks for having me yeah
01:01:59.180
welcome anytime it's always great to see you um i thought the show was great i appreciate your
01:02:05.300
input and advice i'm sure everybody else did as well uh where can people follow you at if they're
01:02:09.800
not following you so far yeah so i mean social media is kind of my digital business card uh at bio
01:02:15.500
lane is where you can find me on most platforms and then my website biolane.com has all my stuff on
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there and then like you know my nutritional coaching app carbon diet coach um for people who are
01:02:27.260
looking for like really affordable nutritional help um but i you know i do the whole gamut in the
01:02:33.240
fitness industry so whatever you need help with uh one of my companies or one of my products can help
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