REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 8. What Made People Like Kobe Bryant, Jesus Christ, or Adolf Hitler Some of the Most Influential People In History？

00:00:00.000 I told my teacher, dumb bitch, I'm going to get millions, in a project living, spoke it

00:00:05.680 to existence, mold changed to 50, got mold cost than did it, I only weigh 180, but my

00:00:11.840 watch cost 250, what's up guys, this is Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realist,

00:00:17.400 say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking

00:00:22.800 reality, guys, today we have a special show because Vaughn, the pastor of disaster, decided

00:00:32.160 he made a team decision here and I got to explain it to you, so we brought in lunch for the whole

00:00:38.560 crew, we got this little place in town called Pisketti's, it is fucking amazing, Pisketti's

00:00:44.040 sponsor me, you should, been going there my whole life, we got Sal here, Sal, tell them

00:00:50.080 about Pisketti's, Pisketti's is one of those places that God invented himself and he happened

00:00:55.320 to pass it on to the Brandon family and the Brandon family has done a phenomenal job of

00:00:58.820 representing God's taste buds, yes, it is Jesus' taste buds, it's a proven fact, I read about

00:01:05.220 it, and they have also have a very significant role in the obesity of the Frisella family,

00:01:12.240 no, there is no question, this is a place you go to and you feel so good when you eat it

00:01:19.860 and you feel so guilty afterwards and you don't give a fuck, because it was worth it.

00:01:23.800 You know like the, I don't know if analogies or whatever the, where they say you smoke a

00:01:27.420 cigarette after good sex, this is like the fucking, this is what I would do after sex,

00:01:32.380 I want to eat Pisketti's because it's so fucking good.

00:01:33.840 Yeah, and then like you want to lay there and kind of bask in your fatness.

00:01:37.160 There's a story, dude, that Randy Johnson, and I don't know if it's a myth or legend or

00:01:41.300 whatever the fuck it is, that Randy Johnson used to, after he pitched, he'd get so fucked

00:01:44.820 up that he would sit there in his, in his hotel room after he pitched and he would watch TV

00:01:50.640 and he would put ketchup on his chest so he could dip the fries out of it and eat it.

00:01:54.480 Hey man, that's a good move.

00:01:56.260 Yeah, I know, but that's how I think of Pisketti's in bed, you know, like maybe I'll just set it

00:01:59.820 right here on my chest and let it rock.

00:02:01.580 So dude, so Vaughn goes back and checks out the little spread we got back there, the $877

00:02:09.820 spread.

00:02:10.940 $8.97.

00:02:11.620 $8.97, I'm sorry.

00:02:13.240 Sal asked me, he's like, man, what'd you order from Pisketti?

00:02:15.640 He's like, I dang'd on my Amex.

00:02:17.840 That was just for you, right?

00:02:18.860 I said I was hungry.

00:02:19.860 Dude, my Amex was, I looked at it, I was like, how the fuck do you even spend that much

00:02:23.080 money in Pisketti's?

00:02:24.160 So dude, so Vaughn goes back there and he's like, man, if I eat this, I'm not going to

00:02:30.320 be sharp for the show.

00:02:32.000 So, you know, we don't want Vaughn to have a little gluten hangover and, you know.

00:02:37.020 It's really more the dairy.

00:02:38.160 Yeah, bro.

00:02:38.640 So, I mean, look, we really appreciate you making that team's decision for the quality

00:02:43.240 of the show.

00:02:43.960 You know, a tampon fixes that.

00:02:46.080 Fixes what?

00:02:47.120 Whatever it is, the problem that you have.

00:02:48.900 Oh, yeah.

00:02:49.320 You can rub a tampon on it, you'd be okay.

00:02:51.980 I don't even know what to say about that.

00:02:53.480 But you know, there's actually a Pisketti's out in...

00:02:55.940 Man, you ever open a tampon and look at it?

00:02:58.660 I mean, I'd be lying to you if I said no.

00:03:02.640 Like, I remember opening one of them one time and looking at it, I'm like, what the fuck

00:03:06.100 is this thing?

00:03:06.700 I remember seeing one come out of Harry's butt one time.

00:03:08.880 I hope you women out there understand how confusing tampons are to men.

00:03:13.180 Like, I look at that thing and I'm like, how the fuck does this work?

00:03:15.480 Like, it's got like a tube and it looks like a mouse inside the tube.

00:03:19.260 And then like...

00:03:20.060 Is that...

00:03:20.460 You don't know how it works?

00:03:21.320 Is that...

00:03:21.760 No, I fucking never did one.

00:03:23.500 I never handled one of those.

00:03:27.040 Dave's over here laughing like he's a fucking expert at it.

00:03:29.340 He probably is.

00:03:30.780 Dude, when I was in high school, I had to go through the line.

00:03:32.840 My mom wanted me to get a big box of tampons for her.

00:03:35.840 I'm like, mom, I can't do this.

00:03:37.220 She's like, nobody's even going to notice.

00:03:38.800 So, of course, I get this big box.

00:03:40.860 I go through the line.

00:03:41.840 What happens?

00:03:42.840 It doesn't ring up.

00:03:43.960 So, what do they do?

00:03:44.860 They get on the phone and everybody's like, we need a price check of tampons.

00:03:49.740 On phone call.

00:03:51.060 It was...

00:03:51.580 And of course...

00:03:51.920 Then they read your address.

00:03:53.320 Yeah.

00:03:54.160 So, it was pretty embarrassing.

00:03:56.220 Oh, man.

00:03:56.860 So, what's been going on, bro?

00:03:58.860 Dude, I got to be honest with you.

00:04:02.000 You ever had moments in your life where you just kind of step outside your life and you

00:04:05.640 kind of look around and you just feel like something big is going to happen?

00:04:09.680 Like something big?

00:04:10.580 Yeah, man.

00:04:11.360 Dude, I'm having that.

00:04:12.300 I'm having that lately.

00:04:13.500 I don't know what it is.

00:04:14.240 Usually, I have that like...

00:04:15.480 Right before a...

00:04:16.300 Yeah.

00:04:16.860 Right before a bowel movement?

00:04:17.860 No.

00:04:18.340 Oh.

00:04:18.800 Like, you know, get a little excited there, you know, in the shorts.

00:04:22.380 I know something big is going to happen.

00:04:24.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:04:24.600 Oh, you have a great penchant for turning anything in that direction.

00:04:29.680 Oh, fuck, dude.

00:04:29.860 I'm the best.

00:04:30.640 Yeah.

00:04:30.940 But no, man.

00:04:31.580 I just...

00:04:31.980 I don't know what it is.

00:04:33.240 I mean, you and I have had some good conversations.

00:04:34.900 I know I'm the best.

00:04:35.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:04:37.000 You and I have had some good conversations lately, but I just feel like...

00:04:39.900 I don't know.

00:04:40.380 I feel like something really momentous is going to happen soon.

00:04:43.720 Oh, yeah, bro.

00:04:44.160 And I'm not sure what it is.

00:04:45.240 But we got a lot of cool stuff coming down the pike.

00:04:47.980 Dude, you know what?

00:04:48.820 I had a good talk with our team next door yesterday.

00:04:52.480 Yeah?

00:04:52.780 I was walking through the office.

00:04:55.220 And, dude, I could feel like...

00:04:56.280 Because we're going through a big transition here at First Form.

00:04:58.500 You know, we're moving into a huge building, state-of-the-art, you know, top-notch.

00:05:05.060 And, dude, we're overcrowded here.

00:05:06.640 I mean, it's fucking packed.

00:05:09.300 It's uncomfortable for everybody.

00:05:11.620 And we started talking.

00:05:14.020 You know, I sat down with the guys and I said, you know...

00:05:17.060 I know you...

00:05:18.100 Because I could sense their frustration, you know?

00:05:19.960 We started talking.

00:05:20.720 I said, I know you guys are frustrated and things are getting stressful and that.

00:05:25.040 But it's just like we used to talk about on the MSCEO project, man.

00:05:28.640 Those times when things are, like, really fucking hard is right...

00:05:31.860 It literally is in my whole life.

00:05:33.700 Right before shit gets really fun.

00:05:35.640 Yeah.

00:05:35.860 Like, every single time.

00:05:37.220 Yeah.

00:05:37.300 So, like, you know, we've been working hard on a bunch of projects.

00:05:40.460 Yeah.

00:05:40.560 You know, the guys here and the companies have been...

00:05:42.380 I mean, dude, it's...

00:05:44.000 It's kind of weird because the timing's all coming together.

00:05:46.660 Yeah.

00:05:46.820 2020's going to be crazy.

00:05:48.380 Yeah.

00:05:48.680 For a lot of the stuff we've got going on.

00:05:50.020 In the last half of 2019, I mean, obviously, it was good.

00:05:53.440 You would agree that it was good.

00:05:54.440 But, obviously, there was some anxiety.

00:05:56.860 There was some, like...

00:05:57.960 I mean, you went through all sorts of really terrible things, you know?

00:06:01.300 Yeah.

00:06:01.320 It was definitely...

00:06:02.940 2019 was a...

00:06:05.060 Was it not...

00:06:06.060 Was it one of those lessons?

00:06:07.900 A warm-up.

00:06:08.700 Yeah.

00:06:09.220 Yeah.

00:06:09.620 Yeah.

00:06:10.020 Yeah.

00:06:10.900 2018 was practice.

00:06:12.980 2019 was warm-up.

00:06:14.620 2020's a real fucking deal, motherfuckers.

00:06:17.280 We're getting it.

00:06:19.120 Did you make that up yourself, bro?

00:06:22.780 Oh, man.

00:06:23.880 But, yeah, dude, I feel you, man.

00:06:24.940 No, yeah.

00:06:25.380 It just...

00:06:25.740 It feels...

00:06:26.440 This is a really, really overused word, but it feels epic.

00:06:29.680 Like, something feels epic about lately.

00:06:31.860 I don't know what it is.

00:06:32.740 I'm glad you feel that way because I feel like the last six months, I've been getting kicked

00:06:35.880 in the fucking balls.

00:06:37.180 Yeah.

00:06:37.540 But isn't that...

00:06:38.140 But don't you feel like you're coming to the end of the tunnel there?

00:06:40.720 Yeah.

00:06:41.620 But I also...

00:06:42.380 No, I don't.

00:06:42.900 You're so full of shit.

00:06:43.920 I swear I feel like I'm getting shot in fucking every direction.

00:06:46.800 But I feel like the life is like that, that you just get put through the grinder and then

00:06:51.480 all of a sudden something happens where it's like, wow.

00:06:53.900 I've learned, dude.

00:06:54.500 This is all resolved.

00:06:54.940 Hunker down.

00:06:55.380 Keep your head down and keep moving.

00:06:56.740 Keep fucking moving.

00:06:57.780 That's it.

00:06:58.360 It really is that.

00:06:59.540 It's just keep fucking moving.

00:07:01.380 Like, I think that's a big delusion that people have about, like, their own selves.

00:07:07.960 I think a lot of...

00:07:09.160 When I talk to a lot of people and we talk about, you know, hey, how you doing?

00:07:12.700 Blah, blah, blah.

00:07:13.480 Fuck, man.

00:07:14.080 I feel like I'm just getting hit with thing after thing.

00:07:17.680 Bro, welcome to the fucking club.

00:07:20.380 Right.

00:07:20.720 You know, it's like that for everybody.

00:07:23.800 Like, you know, when you look out there and you see people living a life that you want

00:07:27.420 to live, those motherfuckers deal with the same kind of shit.

00:07:31.840 It's just the way it goes.

00:07:32.960 Right.

00:07:33.260 And that's something I think people forget.

00:07:35.440 You know?

00:07:35.720 I mean, dude, you've heard it in ministry for years and years and years.

00:07:38.580 Why does God hate me?

00:07:40.340 God hates me.

00:07:41.220 Why does he hate me?

00:07:42.400 God doesn't hate you, motherfucker.

00:07:43.900 This is just a big test.

00:07:45.260 Like, what are you willing to overcome?

00:07:47.600 What are you willing to work through?

00:07:48.960 What are you willing to press on through?

00:07:50.820 You know?

00:07:51.260 And the people who live fulfilling lives that matter, and I'm not talking just financially

00:07:56.600 in every way, those people do exactly what Sal just said.

00:08:00.860 Put their fucking heads down and they push.

00:08:03.200 They push and they push.

00:08:04.620 And when they don't want to push, guess what they do?

00:08:06.420 Push harder.

00:08:06.900 They push harder.

00:08:07.520 Yeah.

00:08:07.840 And that's the difference.

00:08:08.680 It really is the separator.

00:08:09.920 And, you know, we've talked about this before, but I think the thing that you really, I think

00:08:13.340 if you're paying attention, the thing that you really come to understand when you start

00:08:16.040 getting up there in years a little bit is you're going to make it.

00:08:19.560 It's going to be fine.

00:08:20.440 Yeah.

00:08:20.940 Like, you're going to take the blows and you're going to experience all sorts of bad stuff,

00:08:25.420 but you're going to be fine.

00:08:26.760 You're going to press on.

00:08:27.820 Like, we've talked about this before.

00:08:28.940 As long as you don't fucking stop.

00:08:30.000 Yeah.

00:08:30.200 As long as you don't stop.

00:08:31.200 As long as you don't give up.

00:08:32.440 Like, literally just press on.

00:08:33.920 Yeah.

00:08:34.100 Or fuck people over.

00:08:34.900 That's right.

00:08:35.440 Yeah.

00:08:36.040 No, it's true.

00:08:37.220 And we've said this a thousand times on a podcast.

00:08:40.960 It's, there are very few things in life you can't bounce back from.

00:08:44.020 Death being probably the only one.

00:08:45.560 Yeah.

00:08:45.800 Your own death.

00:08:46.620 Your own death.

00:08:47.180 Right.

00:08:47.300 Yeah.

00:08:47.880 But, no, but.

00:08:49.280 But I'm coming back from that shit too, motherfuckers.

00:08:51.440 I'm going to tell you that right now.

00:08:53.280 I'm going to be like the invisible man in the fucking lady shower.

00:08:56.040 Um, well, we, uh, you and I both have been watching a show on Netflix called Messiah.

00:09:07.420 Yeah.

00:09:07.720 It's not about Andy Frisella.

00:09:08.740 Tyler, you've been watching that too, right?

00:09:09.900 You watched the whole thing?

00:09:10.680 Yeah, I finished it.

00:09:11.300 Did you watch it?

00:09:12.320 I actually ended up, you told me about it, I ended up watching the whole season.

00:09:15.680 It's a good show.

00:09:16.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:16.680 It's really interesting.

00:09:17.740 Very rarely do I like turn something on Netflix and think, man, this is worth watching.

00:09:21.680 Yeah.

00:09:22.020 But it's very, it's very compelling and we'll get into, I mean, we'll get into that.

00:09:24.940 By the way, dude, I found a show last night when I was, when I, cause I text Tyler last

00:09:28.200 night.

00:09:28.320 I came home and you had Netflix on your TV.

00:09:30.020 Yeah.

00:09:30.340 I saw the logo.

00:09:31.440 Yeah.

00:09:31.820 So, so I text Tyler last night, like seven o'clock.

00:09:34.780 I just wanted to fucking have a, basically a normal night and I'm like, Hey bro, what's

00:09:39.400 good to watch?

00:09:40.140 And he fucking lists off all this shit and I couldn't help but think, how the fuck do

00:09:45.800 you know as hard as you work?

00:09:47.740 How do you know all those shows are so good?

00:09:51.380 I'm a multitasker.

00:09:52.540 He knew all about them.

00:09:55.920 Anyway, I'm, I'm just teasing.

00:09:57.260 I've been alive for 34 years.

00:09:58.500 Listen, I always ask Tyler what the good shows are cause he really does know.

00:10:02.060 And I did find one though, that Narcos Mexico show.

00:10:05.220 Have you seen it?

00:10:06.280 I have not seen that one.

00:10:07.180 It's pretty good.

00:10:07.700 Narcos is the original.

00:10:08.640 No, there's a Narcos Mexico.

00:10:10.340 Oh, I haven't seen that.

00:10:10.920 It's good.

00:10:11.620 I started watching it.

00:10:12.300 I haven't watched it cause I haven't stopped.

00:10:14.180 Tyler, I got a question.

00:10:15.020 How many times have you walked by his window when you're going in there and instead of the Netflix

00:10:18.040 banner, have you seen the Pornhub banner?

00:10:19.680 No, dude, that goes on my phone.

00:10:22.400 It ain't his first rodeo.

00:10:23.680 I'll tell you what.

00:10:24.220 I watched the first couple episodes of Narcos, the original Narcos.

00:10:27.520 I actually have a theory.

00:10:28.640 I actually think that dude, what was his name again?

00:10:31.300 What was his name again?

00:10:31.840 Oh, what is his name?

00:10:32.440 Pablo Escobar.

00:10:32.760 Pablo, Pablo Escobar.

00:10:33.960 I actually think.

00:10:34.820 No, Padrino?

00:10:35.660 I actually think that Pablo Escobar was more evil than Hitler, but he just didn't have the

00:10:40.300 power to hurt as many people as Hitler did.

00:10:42.260 Like, I think he's worse.

00:10:43.060 What do you mean?

00:10:43.380 It's the opposite.

00:10:43.940 I mean, well, I mean, in his game, he was.

00:10:45.440 Like, I think if he had the same power.

00:10:48.540 Do you think there's degrees to evil?

00:10:50.720 Yeah, I do, actually.

00:10:51.800 You do?

00:10:52.060 Yeah, I think some people.

00:10:55.760 Everybody's capable of doing some sort of evil, but I think that there are certain people

00:10:59.420 who cultivate it more in their lives.

00:11:00.920 I don't think there is.

00:11:02.180 I think there's evil, and evil is fucking evil.

00:11:05.840 Well, I mean, I guess.

00:11:06.860 Here's why I think this.

00:11:07.500 They can justify it.

00:11:08.620 Well, here's what I'm saying.

00:11:09.460 Stealing a toy from, you know.

00:11:11.320 That's not evil.

00:11:12.480 That's a lesson.

00:11:13.440 Well, it's, you could argue that breaking the law, it's wrongdoing.

00:11:17.080 Okay, so.

00:11:17.680 But evil does not have to do with man's law.

00:11:20.060 What are you talking about?

00:11:21.100 Evil is like an intent.

00:11:22.820 What's the definition of evil, Tyler?

00:11:24.380 Google it.

00:11:27.400 Evil, to me, is like the intent to do something harmful.

00:11:33.400 You know what I'm saying?

00:11:34.380 Right.

00:11:34.820 It's not breaking a law.

00:11:37.220 You know what I mean?

00:11:37.820 Right.

00:11:39.060 That's how I look at it.

00:11:40.680 Profoundly immoral and wicked.

00:11:42.580 Okay.

00:11:43.340 Profoundly immoral and wicked.

00:11:44.700 Yeah.

00:11:45.040 Do you think stealing a toy is profoundly immoral?

00:11:46.420 No, no, no.

00:11:46.880 I don't think.

00:11:47.620 I don't know.

00:11:48.220 I guess what I'm saying is I think there's different levels of immorality.

00:11:51.860 Yes, I think there's a difference about doing something that's simply an immoral act

00:11:56.120 and then doing something that's actually profoundly evil.

00:11:58.780 Obviously, there's a difference between murdering someone and stealing a toy from the mall.

00:12:04.460 Yeah.

00:12:04.720 Does anybody even go to the mall anymore?

00:12:05.920 No, but what were we talking about?

00:12:10.800 You were saying you thought fucking El Padrino was more evil than Hitler.

00:12:15.700 The point is that I actually think he could have done worse than Hitler had he had the power.

00:12:21.540 I think he would have put people in concentration camps.

00:12:23.580 I do.

00:12:24.360 I do.

00:12:24.940 I don't think.

00:12:25.860 Yvonne, you're going to get a lot of kickback from that.

00:12:27.420 I would say.

00:12:28.400 I don't think it's that.

00:12:29.740 No, I don't think it's an invalid argument.

00:12:32.160 I think it really comes down to.

00:12:34.000 He just seemed to really revel in money, not power.

00:12:39.000 Oh, you know, he was into power.

00:12:40.200 But greed is definitely a power.

00:12:41.160 No, he was into power.

00:12:41.940 Yeah, but greed and power are fucking.

00:12:43.560 Yeah, they're tied together.

00:12:44.380 Yeah.

00:12:44.900 They're linear.

00:12:45.740 Yeah.

00:12:46.100 I mean, I guess it's apples and oranges.

00:12:47.740 I mean, it's a weird distinction to make.

00:12:50.040 It is, but what you're talking about.

00:12:51.080 Point being is I was overwhelmed by how bad he was.

00:12:53.160 No, most people are going to.

00:12:54.000 I see your argument.

00:12:55.260 I don't know the answer.

00:12:58.140 Most people will argue because of the end result of Hitler was way worse than what the

00:13:04.360 end result of Escobar was, that Hitler was more evil.

00:13:08.320 But, you know, is there degrees to evil or just fucking evil, man?

00:13:14.220 Well, I'll spin it back on you.

00:13:15.700 Do you see a murder as the same, like shooting somebody in the head?

00:13:20.040 Versus like a heinous crime where they carve their eyeballs out.

00:13:23.620 I see it the same.

00:13:24.740 Do you?

00:13:25.220 Yeah.

00:13:26.200 See, I would, I mean, I guess it's situation dependent.

00:13:28.580 Well, I know that our.

00:13:30.520 I would say, I think they're different in my personal, just because I think there's a,

00:13:34.400 there's a, there's a moral degree of.

00:13:40.220 Violence.

00:13:40.840 Violence that is, I mean, maybe that's the sheltered inner feelings coming out of somebody at that

00:13:45.260 time.

00:13:45.560 Well, I mean.

00:13:46.000 It takes a sick motherfucker to carve somebody's eyeballs out.

00:13:49.240 He's taught to think about it.

00:13:49.920 Escobar was like a family person.

00:13:51.400 Like he gave back to the community.

00:13:52.500 I know he raped little women.

00:13:53.920 He did?

00:13:54.180 Or little girls.

00:13:54.760 Yeah.

00:13:54.960 That's like his thing.

00:13:55.940 See, I don't buy the deal.

00:13:57.520 I don't buy the argument that somebody's, that, you know.

00:14:01.080 You can't do that and be a good human.

00:14:02.600 Yeah.

00:14:03.080 Yeah.

00:14:03.420 I just.

00:14:03.840 Well, let's be real.

00:14:04.420 All the charitable stuff.

00:14:05.040 I mean, neither one of them were good dudes.

00:14:06.380 Yeah.

00:14:06.640 Yeah.

00:14:07.020 I mean, let's, we could say that.

00:14:09.540 I think it's an interesting topic because, you know, you could say, I mean, if you ask

00:14:15.500 the world, if we put a poll up on Instagram, who was more evil, fucking 100% are going

00:14:19.120 to say Hitler.

00:14:19.960 Right?

00:14:20.560 Right.

00:14:20.880 And because Pablo Escobar was, is kind of branded a little bit of a hero and a little

00:14:25.140 bit of like this counterculture, like.

00:14:28.000 They kind of celebrate him a little bit.

00:14:29.600 Because he made a lot of money.

00:14:30.860 Yeah.

00:14:31.000 That's why.

00:14:31.880 And people want to make a lot of money and that gangster lifestyle is glorified in society.

00:14:37.640 You know, like I'm a cool motherfucker.

00:14:40.320 Fuck.

00:14:40.800 You know, I mean, listen to every fucking rap song.

00:14:42.760 Even I listen to them.

00:14:43.640 I fucking like them.

00:14:44.840 But I mean.

00:14:45.640 And they make great movies.

00:14:46.940 They do.

00:14:47.460 Right.

00:14:47.560 And it's great.

00:14:48.160 They're great stories.

00:14:48.740 You know, there's nobody.

00:14:51.400 I mean, the great movies about Hitler are still fucking sad as fuck.

00:14:55.660 You know?

00:14:56.540 And.

00:14:57.720 Dude, listen to this.

00:14:59.100 Imagine if Fyre Festival.

00:15:00.220 Imagine if Hitler had an island and Fyre Festival was hosting it on Hitler's Island

00:15:04.620 versus Escobar's.

00:15:06.260 Like the, like the perception.

00:15:08.500 Man, he was smoking some fucked up shit.

00:15:10.220 But that, that was a huge drawing point to their, to their, uh, Fyre Festival was the

00:15:15.380 fact that it was hosted on.

00:15:16.300 Remember I said weed, not crack, bro.

00:15:18.740 But it was hosted on Pablo Escobar's Island.

00:15:20.600 Is that right?

00:15:20.980 That's probably a lie too.

00:15:22.640 No, it was.

00:15:23.800 Wait, why?

00:15:24.200 Because you saw the documentary.

00:15:24.700 What are you trying to explain?

00:15:25.900 No, I see what you're saying.

00:15:26.860 I'm just saying like the difference between how, how the public perceives.

00:15:29.400 People think the island's cool because it's Escobar's Island.

00:15:32.000 Exactly.

00:15:32.500 But it was, it's like people that go to, uh, to, uh, mafia tours.

00:15:37.640 They have mafia tours in Kansas City.

00:15:39.220 I don't know if they have them in St. Louis.

00:15:40.360 Bro, I see people all the time.

00:15:41.380 So there's almost a certain, that's what you said.

00:15:43.340 There's almost a certain glamour to it.

00:15:44.660 Whereas nobody's talking about Hitler.

00:15:46.360 Like there's glamour, right?

00:15:47.620 Yeah.

00:15:47.800 So, but, uh, no.

00:15:49.840 Ideally, because there's no glamour in it.

00:15:50.980 Right.

00:15:51.240 Well, getting back to, getting back to Messiah.

00:15:53.980 So we won't go into the whole premise right now, but it's obviously this, this very charismatic

00:15:58.900 figure shows up on the world scene and he assembles a group of people that begin to follow

00:16:05.360 him and, uh, consider him sort of the savior of, of humanity.

00:16:09.060 But, uh, it got me, got me kind of interested in, uh, looking up cults, which I know is

00:16:14.500 a kind of odd thing to be interested in.

00:16:16.840 And although when I admit to people that cultic leaders fascinate me, I almost always get

00:16:21.980 people going, Oh no, no, me too.

00:16:24.220 Well, yeah, because there is a, there's an innate fascination with how the fuck you can

00:16:28.640 do it.

00:16:29.320 I get it.

00:16:29.600 You know what do when people say like, you know, everybody asks that question who, if

00:16:34.000 you could spend a dinner with someone dead or alive, who would you spend it with?

00:16:37.660 Yeah.

00:16:37.880 And what do I say?

00:16:38.580 You say Hitler.

00:16:39.360 I always say Hitler.

00:16:40.300 And when I say that, cause dude, I said that in front of 10,000 people on events and everybody

00:16:44.200 goes, but look, dude, what I'm trying to understand is how the fuck someone could make that many

00:16:51.180 people believe that much evil shit.

00:16:53.220 Like how the fuck is that possible?

00:16:55.160 Right.

00:16:55.480 So I figure I can learn a lot from that guy.

00:16:58.140 And you know, the, the, the difference is the intent.

00:17:02.920 Like I was talking to Gary V on the phone the other day and we were talking about the

00:17:07.560 responsibility that comes with your ability to influence and like, dude, he's got a, Gary

00:17:13.500 is a fucking tremendous, has a tremendous ability to influence people.

00:17:17.980 So do I, if we weren't morally connected, what kind, what kind of damage could we do in

00:17:22.700 the world?

00:17:23.080 Exactly.

00:17:23.360 You know what I'm saying?

00:17:24.140 And there's a responsibility that comes with the ability to move people and get people

00:17:28.980 gathered to put them on a right track versus a fucking immoral track.

00:17:33.280 And because people that discover they have the ability to move people a certain way, I

00:17:41.760 mean, you better fucking hope those people are morally correct or do they do a lot of

00:17:45.580 damage.

00:17:46.040 Look at all these third world countries out there with these, with these leaders who are

00:17:50.580 able to convince people to do shit that is completely fucked up.

00:17:55.060 Yeah.

00:17:55.220 Drink the Kool-Aid or cut people's heads off cause they're gay or rape women because they

00:18:00.320 fucking show their skin, throw rocks at them.

00:18:02.960 Like, dude, like who, like who in the world could fucking think that's okay?

00:18:07.060 You know, it's just a hard, it's a hard thing to understand.

00:18:11.760 So it is interesting.

00:18:13.020 It's an interesting thing I think is for a lot of people.

00:18:16.300 Yeah.

00:18:16.680 I mean.

00:18:17.080 No, I, I agree.

00:18:18.000 I agree.

00:18:18.480 So anyway, I, so I, I looked up cults and I came across this like 10 craziest cults.

00:18:23.780 I got to read these.

00:18:24.720 Some of these are really interesting.

00:18:26.160 And then I got to, and then I got some questions I want to ask you guys.

00:18:28.380 So one of the craziest cults was called the Honohana Sanpagyo cult.

00:18:33.620 And this was, uh, started by a guy who claimed that he was the incarnation of both Jesus and

00:18:39.420 Buddha and he could solve people's emotional, spiritual, psychological problems by examining

00:18:44.340 their feet.

00:18:45.420 So a number of people apparently started, uh, amassing around this guy.

00:18:49.600 That motherfucker had a foot feather.

00:18:51.420 He just wanted to look at people's feet.

00:18:53.060 That's like one of the motherfuckers on Instagram asking all the girls for their sweaty socks or

00:18:57.280 stick their feet in jelly or some shit.

00:18:59.320 So he apparently was doing pretty well building his cult, but the whole thing unraveled when

00:19:04.340 his followers fought back, when he instituted a $900 fee for charging to inspect their feet.

00:19:10.820 So they got pissed.

00:19:11.980 Yeah.

00:19:12.140 They got pissed that, uh, he was, he was charging $900 to inspect their feet.

00:19:16.640 I mean, one, that shows me that that was a really good lure for stupidity.

00:19:20.620 Wow.

00:19:21.060 You know what I mean?

00:19:21.520 Like you could lure some people, but they weren't stupid enough to pay $900.

00:19:24.580 So that's a good, that's a good measurement.

00:19:26.720 You know what I mean?

00:19:27.000 So you think he overpriced maybe?

00:19:28.500 Yeah.

00:19:28.520 Maybe if he would have gone 90.

00:19:29.820 I mean, dude, if you ask Russell Brunson.

00:19:31.540 $89.99.

00:19:32.120 Listen, Russell Brunson, super successful dude, kicking ass with ClickFunnels, very successful

00:19:38.180 man in our era.

00:19:39.500 If you ask him, he'll tell you, everything's a marketing problem.

00:19:43.060 And that's what that sounds like to me.

00:19:44.620 Yeah.

00:19:44.960 Maybe if he had charged a hundred bucks, he'd still be in fucking business.

00:19:47.980 Right.

00:19:48.420 Right.

00:19:48.920 Exactly.

00:19:49.620 So there's this other group.

00:19:50.780 You have all kinds of feet to make them happy.

00:19:52.360 So there's another group called the Freedomites, who were originally formed in Saskatchewan

00:19:57.280 in 1902, broke off from several different religious groups.

00:20:02.380 But Freedomites insisted on three different things.

00:20:05.480 Communal living, nudity, and anarchy.

00:20:09.820 What would you do?

00:20:10.220 So wait, what are they doing?

00:20:11.040 Just running around naked like causing trouble?

00:20:12.280 Yeah, they became most famous for their all-nude public demonstrations to show opposition

00:20:16.580 to the material tendencies of society.

00:20:19.580 You know what that sounds like to me, dude?

00:20:21.020 What?

00:20:21.220 The naked purge.

00:20:22.280 It sounds like one of these fucking marches we see on fucking Instagram, where people

00:20:26.100 got their fucking shit hanging out, their titties and their dicks, and they're running

00:20:29.520 all over the world saying, you know, crazy shit.

00:20:32.500 Like, maybe that's still going on.

00:20:33.980 Like, dude, you ever seen these fucking naked bike rides where everybody fucking runs through

00:20:37.160 the city fucking naked?

00:20:39.120 Like, at least it's not anarchy.

00:20:40.740 But I mean, like, dude, nobody wants to see your shit.

00:20:42.860 I mean, I gotta be honest.

00:20:43.620 I don't know.

00:20:44.240 I mean, and I wear all those stupid suits when I do triathlons.

00:20:48.060 I don't need my butthole on my seat.

00:20:50.320 You know what I'm saying?

00:20:51.080 Or your ball sack.

00:20:52.880 Yeah.

00:20:53.300 Like, that would be a bad pinch.

00:20:54.840 Yeah.

00:20:55.560 But I mean, my seat, like, I would have to look at my seat differently.

00:20:57.920 Could you be sweating?

00:20:58.660 That's not good.

00:20:59.540 Yeah.

00:20:59.680 You gotta have something in between.

00:21:00.880 You know what I mean?

00:21:01.120 Yeah.

00:21:01.160 Dude, imagine the smell of your seat.

00:21:02.800 Oh, I like my seat.

00:21:03.940 I got a nice seat.

00:21:04.600 I paid a lot of money for that seat.

00:21:05.680 I'm not-

00:21:06.180 How much is a good bike seat?

00:21:07.700 It's a couple hundred bucks.

00:21:08.760 Really?

00:21:09.100 Yeah, well, yeah.

00:21:09.720 I mean, I bet you the seat I have is like $2.95.

00:21:12.700 It's fucking about this thin.

00:21:14.160 It's about the size of fucking Dave's dick.

00:21:19.580 Oh, that was just low, bro.

00:21:21.860 So, this, of course, raised in my mind-

00:21:25.720 Tyler, is it true?

00:21:26.540 The very-

00:21:27.340 Dave's dick.

00:21:30.100 I ain't never seen it.

00:21:31.860 Neither has he.

00:21:34.660 Dude, what the fuck?

00:21:35.820 This raised in my mind the very, very important question of what would you guys form a cult?

00:21:43.220 If you had to start a cult, like, what would you call it?

00:21:46.700 They've been accused of that before.

00:21:48.680 Oh, yeah.

00:21:49.600 Because we have a-

00:21:50.340 Well, that's the fucking term of-

00:21:52.160 Cult comes from culture.

00:21:53.440 Right, culture.

00:21:54.160 I mean, but see, cult has a negative connotation.

00:21:57.600 Like, you know, you're doing crazy shit.

00:21:59.740 Yeah.

00:22:00.200 You know, when it has a good connotation, it's called culture.

00:22:02.780 Correct.

00:22:03.180 You know, so we have a culture.

00:22:05.820 We don't have a cult.

00:22:06.880 And people have a hard time, you know, understanding that.

00:22:09.240 But-

00:22:09.300 Well, when-

00:22:10.080 If I was going to start a real cult, I would definitely-

00:22:13.360 He'd be in that naked Saskatchewan group.

00:22:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:15.540 It would have something to do with nudity, I'm sure.

00:22:17.760 And Piscatis.

00:22:18.460 Nudity.

00:22:18.860 Yeah, nudity.

00:22:19.700 Piscatis.

00:22:20.220 Piscatis.

00:22:20.700 Piscatis on my chest.

00:22:21.260 And sesame.

00:22:22.300 Yeah, fucking Chinese food, egg rolls and shit.

00:22:24.700 Oh, man.

00:22:24.840 How you killing everybody, though?

00:22:25.760 Dave's in.

00:22:26.880 Chicken wings.

00:22:28.080 Poison them.

00:22:28.680 Poison them?

00:22:29.160 Poison them with my french fries.

00:22:29.920 Why would you build your compound?

00:22:32.300 Fucking Perciliphone.

00:22:33.320 I don't fucking know, Vaughn.

00:22:35.380 No, come on.

00:22:36.100 Is that all the shit you think about on your drive?

00:22:37.900 Yeah, no.

00:22:39.420 Somewhere on Highway 70.

00:22:40.720 Inquiring minds want to know.

00:22:41.960 Sal, that's Vaughn's secret thing, dude.

00:22:44.120 Like, you know, Vaughn, he didn't want to do the real AF too much.

00:22:49.180 You know, he was like, I don't know, man.

00:22:50.800 And I said, Vaughn, guess what?

00:22:52.280 We can start a cult.

00:22:53.660 And he's like, I'm in, dude.

00:22:55.260 I'll drive five hours on a fucking Friday.

00:22:56.260 We're going to do everything at night.

00:22:58.160 You want to tell that story?

00:22:59.220 You're a Kool-Aid mixer.

00:23:00.020 You tell that story.

00:23:00.900 It's going to be mystery.

00:23:02.140 It's going to be cloaked in darkness.

00:23:04.180 It's going to be mysterious.

00:23:06.320 And Vaughn said, I'm in.

00:23:08.120 Yeah.

00:23:08.800 I also said we had to do everything at night.

00:23:11.200 Because there's more of an air of magic and excitement at night.

00:23:17.640 That's a true story.

00:23:18.540 Vaughn, have you ever seen Monsters University?

00:23:20.680 No.

00:23:21.160 There's Monsters, Inc. and Monsters University.

00:23:23.000 I know.

00:23:24.240 I'm not a big Monsters fan.

00:23:25.880 I could see you being the head of the Monsters, Inc. University.

00:23:29.220 Yeah.

00:23:29.480 Team.

00:23:30.100 Omega Kappa.

00:23:30.500 Is that Larry?

00:23:31.140 Or what's his name?

00:23:32.340 What's the big eyeballs name?

00:23:34.540 Mike Wazowski.

00:23:35.700 Yeah.

00:23:35.940 Okay.

00:23:36.500 You could be, you know, like they do the breaking in in the mom's basement in college.

00:23:42.640 You know, like it's kind of like they're in the dark.

00:23:45.380 Mom comes down, starts doing the laundry.

00:23:47.000 That's Vaughn's version.

00:23:49.120 We're going to get real badass in mom's basement.

00:23:51.800 Vaughn in high school.

00:23:52.700 People have, listen, dude.

00:23:54.540 You ever seen that, what's that show?

00:23:56.940 That show on Netflix where the fucking kids, there's like an underworld and there are monsters

00:24:01.380 and shit.

00:24:02.060 Stranger Things.

00:24:02.720 Stranger Things.

00:24:03.040 There you go.

00:24:03.520 Okay.

00:24:04.080 You were those fucking kids.

00:24:05.380 I know it.

00:24:05.620 Of course I was.

00:24:06.200 Yes, you were.

00:24:06.900 See, I couldn't get into Stranger Things.

00:24:08.980 Believe it or not, I couldn't either.

00:24:10.420 I love the 80s and I love that.

00:24:11.980 I just didn't, I was at a time in my life where I was like, I don't have enough time to sit

00:24:15.860 and watch this.

00:24:16.660 True or false?

00:24:17.540 What's that?

00:24:18.340 Did you play Dungeons and Dragons in your basement?

00:24:20.000 No, I actually didn't, dude.

00:24:21.300 Because when I was younger, that was very, like, that was the devil.

00:24:24.800 That was evil.

00:24:25.980 That was a very conservative Christian.

00:24:29.020 And plus at the time, a couple kids got killed.

00:24:32.180 Like, right when I was about the age to do that, a couple kids got so into it that they

00:24:37.420 killed each other or they formed some sort of suicide pact or something.

00:24:41.520 Yeah, like a cultic type thing.

00:24:43.040 So I never really got into that.

00:24:44.640 I did get into the superhero version of that, though.

00:24:46.680 So in your Dungeons and Dragons cult that you for sure had, did you guys have, like,

00:24:52.080 a special robe that you wore or, like, rituals and stuff?

00:24:54.720 Like, what did you do?

00:24:55.240 What was your rituals?

00:24:56.300 Oh, man.

00:24:57.880 Well, I've told you before.

00:24:58.980 We used to snort pixie sticks.

00:25:01.080 Oh, yeah.

00:25:01.620 So you guys got dressed up in your robes and you, like, did, like, a chant?

00:25:04.680 No, but I just asked somebody about, did you guys have robes?

00:25:07.660 Like, literally, like, did you wear robes before you went to bed?

00:25:12.680 Oh, no, dude.

00:25:13.140 We had our own cult.

00:25:14.560 It was called the Jim Frisella fucking Costco.

00:25:17.900 No, it wasn't Costco.

00:25:19.160 Costco's fancy.

00:25:19.900 It was the Jim Frisella Walmart red sweatshirt, red sweatpants, Adidas shoe.

00:25:26.860 Like, that was our, our robe was like an outfit that we got at Walmart.

00:25:30.060 That makes sense.

00:25:30.680 And our cult was kicking other kids' asses.

00:25:32.640 Yeah, well, I knew that.

00:25:33.400 And it was kill, kill, kill.

00:25:33.920 But, I mean, if you want some dirt on us, we did wear tighty-whities.

00:25:36.580 Did you?

00:25:36.960 Yeah, we weren't.

00:25:37.760 Pretty much everybody back then.

00:25:39.100 I wore tighty-whities until I was about 22.

00:25:41.280 Yeah.

00:25:41.320 I'm the same boat.

00:25:42.040 Like, until I got to college, it was like.

00:25:43.480 And then I started realizing, like, the girls started looking at me funny.

00:25:45.840 Yeah.

00:25:47.520 Started getting into college, and I realized, like, I'm one of the only motherfuckers in the locker room rocking tighty-whities.

00:25:52.180 Well, so I'm older than you guys, but there was, like, tighty-whities were very standard.

00:25:56.640 And then, at a certain point, like, I think it was my sophomore year or junior year in high school, and then all through college, boxer shorts became very popular.

00:26:05.620 So, I just started wearing boxer shorts, but now I'm kind of back to the standard, you know, briefs.

00:26:09.480 Oh, man, you got to go commando.

00:26:11.040 I'm going to tell you what, dude.

00:26:11.960 I might roll back some tighty-whities, dude.

00:26:14.020 I kind of liked them, and now I'm comfortable enough.

00:26:16.180 I don't give a fuck what people think.

00:26:16.940 Dude, we should have real AF tighty-whities.

00:26:18.520 I wear boxer briefs from, and I got to be honest, like, I used to make fun of Louis Vuitton so hard.

00:26:22.240 Well, don't we make underwear now?

00:26:23.320 No.

00:26:24.060 I thought we had some underwear back.

00:26:25.320 Those are actual shorts?

00:26:26.320 Yes.

00:26:26.680 Who the fuck is going to wear those?

00:26:27.820 Well, I don't know.

00:26:28.840 We sell quite a few of them.

00:26:30.080 We do?

00:26:30.600 Yeah.

00:26:30.920 All right, well, I thought they were fucking underpants.

00:26:33.960 This reminds me of the socks.

00:26:35.300 Yeah, exactly, right?

00:26:37.380 No, but, yeah, go ahead.

00:26:38.720 I'm a boxer brief guy.

00:26:39.920 Yeah.

00:26:40.200 I've learned to, like, because I used to wear sliders all the time after the tighty-whity transition.

00:26:44.860 But what's funny is, no, for real, like, underarm, dude, that was, like, my main investment in underarm.

00:26:49.240 Dude, I still have a pair of fucking underarm sliders that I wear now that I had in fucking college.

00:26:53.840 That's how good they are.

00:26:54.620 I bet those are in great shape.

00:26:56.620 Actually, surprisingly, they're in fucking phenomenal shape.

00:26:59.460 Do you, when you put those on, do you reminisce?

00:27:01.460 You're like, yeah, I'm a girl on the baseball field.

00:27:01.600 Dude, I was like, I was so fucking badass.

00:27:03.980 I'm going to see all the boys in the shower.

00:27:05.940 So fucking badass, dude.

00:27:07.660 The only time you slid, no, me broke his leg.

00:27:09.220 I smell them.

00:27:10.160 Are you a standard, like, solid color guy?

00:27:13.480 I don't give a fuck.

00:27:14.540 Yeah, I wear multiple colors.

00:27:16.400 I wear whatever's on top.

00:27:18.380 Do you wear, like, crazy stuff, like leopard stuff?

00:27:19.840 Dude, listen, no, I don't give a fuck.

00:27:21.720 No, okay.

00:27:23.120 I buy the pack.

00:27:23.860 Dude, I'll tell you what I wear.

00:27:24.700 I wear the fucking packs of Fruit of the Loom shit you get at Walmart.

00:27:27.820 They're, like, six bucks for, like, ten pairs.

00:27:29.460 You got to upgrade, dude.

00:27:30.220 This is my point.

00:27:30.920 Like, this is what I'll own this.

00:27:31.780 Am I missing out?

00:27:32.600 Yeah, Lululemon makes these fucking underwear.

00:27:34.400 And I got to be honest.

00:27:35.640 They're fucking awesome.

00:27:36.480 So I'm missing out on the final things.

00:27:37.580 They got a heater and a vibrator going on them.

00:27:39.100 No, they're, like, 15 or 18 bucks a piece.

00:27:41.120 But I promise you they're fucking worth the investment.

00:27:43.060 For one?

00:27:43.820 For one.

00:27:44.680 But I'm telling you, you're taking care of your goods, man.

00:27:46.500 Like, it's a good feeling.

00:27:47.480 It's a nice feeling.

00:27:49.540 I'm telling you.

00:27:50.360 Listen, it's worth the investment.

00:27:52.180 All right.

00:27:52.840 It's worth the investment.

00:27:53.520 All right, there's an example right there.

00:27:55.360 There's an example of what we were talking about before the show.

00:27:58.080 How you do one thing is how you do everything.

00:28:00.420 It's not true.

00:28:01.340 Because I live a life of luxury.

00:28:04.660 And I'm still wearing basic underwear.

00:28:06.580 So there you go.

00:28:07.460 There's your example, Tyler.

00:28:09.020 Thank the Lord.

00:28:10.160 You're right.

00:28:10.660 I'm wrong.

00:28:12.060 So the premise, getting back to the Netflix series, the premise of this.

00:28:17.160 Let me stop you for a second.

00:28:18.800 What the fuck is wrong with us?

00:28:20.960 About what?

00:28:21.480 Let's be fucking real.

00:28:22.980 And what the fuck is wrong with you guys listening to us?

00:28:26.620 That they've just spent 15 minutes of their life listening to this?

00:28:29.600 They have the same conversations in their head.

00:28:31.500 Yeah, they do.

00:28:32.020 Yeah.

00:28:32.360 They do.

00:28:33.000 That's a good question.

00:28:33.660 But so the premise of this series is basically this mysterious figure.

00:28:38.820 Talking about Messiah, right?

00:28:39.520 Yeah, the Messiah.

00:28:40.040 Yeah, so this mysterious figure appears in the Middle East.

00:28:42.700 And he seems to have these supernatural powers.

00:28:44.840 And he starts amassing followers.

00:28:46.260 And the central question of the series is basically,

00:28:48.400 is this guy really Jesus returning to Earth as a different person?

00:28:51.840 Is he a brand new Messiah?

00:28:53.660 Is he a scam artist?

00:28:55.040 It's pretty intriguing.

00:28:56.100 But I just, just generally speaking, like open-ended,

00:28:58.800 I'm curious what you enjoyed about it.

00:29:00.920 Dude, I thought the whole show, honestly, was put together really well.

00:29:05.180 From the top to bottom, the directing, the acting, the script.

00:29:07.900 Yeah, but the whole, but let's just take away that.

00:29:10.440 Like, I agree with you.

00:29:11.340 They left a little bit of mystery, too.

00:29:13.040 Well, you and I will look at it from a production value because we work together on production value literally all day.

00:29:19.460 With, you know, with the companies and stuff.

00:29:21.240 So, I definitely notice movies and shows like that, like on their value.

00:29:25.520 But, dude, the storytelling of that show is really good.

00:29:30.180 At every point, I found myself, like, wondering, like, okay, is this dude a fraud or is he real?

00:29:39.120 And the truth is, bro, what I really thought was cool about it was, I bet that's how people felt about Jesus.

00:29:45.660 Yep.

00:29:45.960 For real.

00:29:46.780 Yep.

00:29:47.140 No, I agree.

00:29:47.980 So, that's.

00:29:48.540 Don't spill the beans because I want to watch tonight.

00:29:50.620 Oh, dude, it's good.

00:29:51.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:51.840 It'll just have you questioning a lot whether or not what you believe inside the show, not in real life, but inside the show what you believe.

00:29:57.740 No, I totally agree because I think one of the things I always tell people is, like, because historically America is a Christian nation.

00:30:06.860 We're just, we've heard, most people have heard about Jesus from the time that they're, you know, little.

00:30:09.720 Well, he plays a role in most religions.

00:30:11.380 Right, exactly.

00:30:11.960 Yeah.

00:30:12.280 So, we're so used to him that we just think he's like Mr. Rogers.

00:30:15.720 But the reality is, when he came onto the scene.

00:30:18.120 He was a rebel.

00:30:18.640 He was a rebel.

00:30:19.740 He, I think he really disturbed people.

00:30:21.640 Absolutely.

00:30:22.220 Like, he just, I mean, clearly he disturbed a lot of people.

00:30:25.020 I mean, it's pretty disruptive.

00:30:27.320 So, but, so what, I'm just curious, what do you think is really.

00:30:30.900 Hi, I'm the son of God.

00:30:31.760 Right.

00:30:32.860 Wait, what?

00:30:33.660 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:35.320 People are worried about making a fucking sales call.

00:30:37.360 Well, and what's great about the show is that it does show, like, different, it shows how the government responds to this guy.

00:30:44.480 It shows how the real, like, extremist religious people respond.

00:30:47.960 It shows how the everyday sort of person of faith responds.

00:30:51.280 Yeah.

00:30:51.440 It shows how the cynic responds.

00:30:53.020 Not only that, but it's modern day.

00:30:54.360 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:54.800 Which is really cool.

00:30:55.840 So, what do you, here's my question.

00:30:57.500 Do you find the guy, do you find the character compelling?

00:31:01.400 Yeah.

00:31:01.880 Okay.

00:31:02.340 Yeah, in what, well, in what regard?

00:31:04.000 Well, I, see, the only thing that's hard for me is I don't feel like if I were to meet Jesus now, I don't think, I think he'd be, like, compelling, but I don't think he'd come across creepy.

00:31:15.280 I think this guy comes across creepy.

00:31:16.340 Dude, I think if Jesus came back, he'd come back as, like, a cool black dude.

00:31:20.640 For real.

00:31:21.160 Well, I mean.

00:31:21.620 I think he would.

00:31:22.100 Okay.

00:31:22.340 He'd be, like, a cool hip.

00:31:23.560 Like Samuel L. Jackson?

00:31:24.640 Yeah, but, like, a good dude.

00:31:26.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:31:27.380 Denzel.

00:31:28.060 I think that's the.

00:31:28.680 Yeah, like a Denzel.

00:31:29.580 I could see it as a Denzel.

00:31:30.420 Yeah, right, that's what I'm saying.

00:31:31.900 Smooth.

00:31:32.180 So, that's how I, like, I picture, like.

00:31:34.800 But I couldn't see Denzel in Birkenstocks, though.

00:31:37.780 That's not what I'm saying.

00:31:38.880 Because, like, dude, he's going to come back looking kind of like what society, you know, looks like now.

00:31:44.140 Right, right.

00:31:44.820 Like, that's the one thing about the show I didn't really get.

00:31:48.660 Because I didn't think, like, because the guy looks like Jesus, right?

00:31:52.300 Yeah.

00:31:52.640 So, like, in my mind, I've always kind of thought, like, dude, this is just weird shit that I think about.

00:31:59.960 Like, if Jesus came back, what the fuck would he look like?

00:32:01.800 Yeah.

00:32:02.040 And what I think Jesus would be is I think he'd be a cool dude who he'd probably say some curse words and he'd probably live a pretty normal life and he'd probably be a regular dude.

00:32:13.620 And there's no question that he would attract everyday people.

00:32:16.720 That's what I'm saying.

00:32:17.300 So, like, when I think of, like, the delivery mechanism of that, I think of, like, a cool, you know, like a cool hip black dude.

00:32:27.200 I got it.

00:32:27.860 Patrick Mahomes.

00:32:29.400 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:30.620 Well, I mean, there is some.

00:32:31.720 We're going to argue that.

00:32:32.940 He's going to be the messiah this Sunday.

00:32:34.540 Yeah.

00:32:35.100 But, dude, speaking of Denzel, isn't it weird that he played?

00:32:37.380 When this posts, hopefully that will be true.

00:32:39.120 At some point in the show, we'll do a prediction on that.

00:32:42.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:43.260 Make a note of that.

00:32:43.960 But, look, let me finish what I'm saying.

00:32:45.700 So, what I mean by that is, like, I mean there's certain people in society that have the ability to move people and make people feel good and make people feel cool.

00:32:57.140 And, you know, like, I don't know why I think it's a black dude, but I just feel like a cool black dude can, like, make white people feel cool.

00:33:05.500 Dude, have you ever seen the book of Eli?

00:33:06.820 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:07.480 Yeah.

00:33:07.860 Dude, the book of Eli, he basically brings back the word of God to society in, like, a really rough time.

00:33:12.460 I thought that book was, or that movie was genius.

00:33:15.580 I don't know, man.

00:33:16.060 I've heard it's a good movie.

00:33:16.840 I mean, that movie lost me.

00:33:18.180 Yeah, I didn't like it either.

00:33:19.300 You didn't like it?

00:33:20.440 I didn't pay attention close enough.

00:33:21.900 Funny thing, so when I was real little and, you know, my younger brother, he would draw these pictures of Jesus, but he would always draw pictures of him like he was Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:33:32.340 And I was like, Lance, why are you drawing Jesus so buff?

00:33:36.420 And he's like, well, he's perfect, right?

00:33:38.460 And I go, yeah, but being perfect doesn't mean you're buff.

00:33:41.400 But I always thought it was funny because in my little brother's mind, to be the perfect man, like, you look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, which I thought was kind of funny.

00:33:49.740 But it's funny.

00:33:50.180 I mean, dude, let me ask you this, though.

00:33:52.860 Like, think about this for real, because if, speaking of the show, I mean, we're getting off kind of on a religious tangent.

00:34:01.240 It's fine.

00:34:02.040 It's an entertaining discussion.

00:34:03.280 Yeah, well, and it's a popular series as far as I know.

00:34:06.420 Let's just say God wanted to move people here to hear that message.

00:34:14.920 He would have to send someone who other people would naturally notice, I think.

00:34:21.100 You know what I mean?

00:34:23.480 And I think, I don't know.

00:34:25.040 You mean if he were to come today?

00:34:26.700 Yeah.

00:34:27.680 Like, I don't know, man.

00:34:29.540 Like, it's a fucking deep rabbit hole to think about.

00:34:31.840 It is.

00:34:32.180 It is.

00:34:32.560 I mean, it's interesting that, I mean, Jesus himself was born in Nazareth, which is like a tiny little backwater nothing, you know?

00:34:39.880 And I mean, to me, what's amazing is, well, all right, so let me switch gears just for a second.

00:34:45.560 So we were talking about the different characters, right?

00:34:47.760 So you have the cynical CIA agent who thinks he's a scam artist.

00:34:51.160 Then you've got the simple, trusting Mid-America folks who are ready to follow him anywhere.

00:34:56.080 You have kind of the extremes.

00:34:58.000 You have cynicism, and you have like almost unquestioning credulity, you know, just like, oh, yes, we're not even going to question this at all.

00:35:07.800 What's your take?

00:35:08.620 Like, what's the best combination of being cynical or critical but being trusting?

00:35:15.780 You know, like, what would you say to each of those people?

00:35:18.760 Like, let me ask you this.

00:35:19.980 Who do you identify with more, the really cynical people or the really trusting people?

00:35:25.660 You know, I think that's a great question.

00:35:29.160 I think that people would do themselves a favor, generally speaking.

00:35:37.200 Generally speaking, I feel like most people are quick to believe shit.

00:35:40.140 And I think most people would do themselves a favor in society if they would, instead of just jumping into the herd mentality, that they would, you know, take a minute to do their research and decide on their own.

00:35:53.780 I think a lot of people's decisions out there aren't necessarily their own decisions because we're ingrained through our culture to kind of jump in on what's hot, right?

00:36:07.060 Like, you know, it's no different than bandwagon stuff or mob shit.

00:36:11.660 You know, why do mobs happen?

00:36:13.420 Mobs happen because there's an emotional situation happening and people don't think.

00:36:19.140 And so, and that's most people.

00:36:23.780 You know, most people are just quick to, because, dude, they have this thing in their ego that says, I want to be right.

00:36:29.920 I want to know the answer.

00:36:31.560 I want to be the guy who knows.

00:36:33.540 And it's very hard for people, I feel like, to, because they're not aware enough or haven't reached that phase yet, and some people never do, where they consider why things are the way they are.

00:36:49.220 Yeah.

00:36:49.360 So, my, I would say for me, I probably am somewhere in the middle where, you know, yes, I notice when things are, seem to be, but then when I start to catch myself, like, believing it, I also then do the research to look the other way and say, okay, well, is this actually true?

00:37:12.780 You know what I'm saying?

00:37:13.440 Right, right.

00:37:14.400 And we see this in politics, you know?

00:37:16.740 So, I mean, we see this with Trump, okay?

00:37:19.900 Let's just say what the fuck it is.

00:37:21.440 We see a lot of motherfuckers that hate Trump, and you ask them why they hate Trump, they can't fucking tell you.

00:37:26.180 Oh, he's a racist.

00:37:27.520 Okay.

00:37:28.280 Well, give me an example of how he was racist.

00:37:30.700 Oh, he's a misogynist.

00:37:32.620 Oh, well, give me an example of how he is.

00:37:34.620 Oh, well, he said, grab him by the pussy.

00:37:36.520 Well, every motherfucking man on the face of the earth has said some perverted shit at some time in their life.

00:37:41.520 They just have.

00:37:42.320 That's reality.

00:37:43.200 I'm not excusing it.

00:37:44.460 I'm not saying it's okay.

00:37:45.720 What I'm saying is, you're judging someone on, that's like saying, dude, the guy jerked off one time in his life.

00:37:53.160 When every fucking dude on the earth jerked off.

00:37:55.660 Once?

00:37:56.280 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:37:57.680 So, like, you know, we can't, and that's how I see it.

00:38:01.300 So, I look for evidence.

00:38:04.200 You know what I mean?

00:38:04.760 Right.

00:38:04.940 And I think people would do themselves a favor, you know, just like I say about Obama, right?

00:38:10.840 Like, I fucking think Obama would probably be an awesome dude to fucking hang out with.

00:38:14.040 I'd have him on the show.

00:38:15.060 Bro, I'd love to have dinner with him and hang out and fucking, you know, whatever, whatever.

00:38:19.560 It'd be great.

00:38:20.800 I just didn't like his policies of what he thought the economy should be.

00:38:24.560 So, I fucking didn't, you know?

00:38:26.020 Right.

00:38:26.260 So, I just think, like, people, if they took a minute to stop and say, why do I feel this way?

00:38:34.520 Why am I a part of this team?

00:38:36.920 What feels good about this?

00:38:38.700 Why do I believe this?

00:38:40.500 And just question themselves, they'd find a lot more truth in their life.

00:38:44.680 Bro, so you know that famous quote by Socrates, the unexamined life is not worth living.

00:38:50.560 Don't you think, whether it's religious people or non-religious people, the problem with most people is,

00:38:56.220 and this is what I hear you saying, is that we don't even know why we believe certain things.

00:39:00.900 Well, because-

00:39:01.460 We don't even think through what we do believe.

00:39:03.320 Vaughn, our society, our system has gotten so good at spoon-feeding the shit that we should and shouldn't think that people don't question it.

00:39:15.960 Right.

00:39:16.260 You know, but that comes from a violation of trust.

00:39:20.900 So, for example, I think it's reasonable that when we watch somebody on a news platform that we expect them to tell the truth and report.

00:39:32.340 Is that a reasonable thought?

00:39:33.520 It's a reasonable thought.

00:39:34.120 Do you think it's a reasonable thought?

00:39:35.300 I think it's a very reasonable thought.

00:39:36.520 Okay, I agree.

00:39:37.240 What do you think?

00:39:38.060 I think they're reading from a teleprompter.

00:39:40.280 I'm not saying that.

00:39:41.100 But yes.

00:39:41.480 I'm saying a reasonable-

00:39:43.060 Yes or no?

00:39:43.640 Yes.

00:39:44.020 Okay.

00:39:44.940 It's a reasonable expectation that we, when we watch a fucking professional organization deliver some news,

00:39:53.100 that that shit should be the fucking facts.

00:39:56.160 And what has happened is we have a violation of trust amongst these big media companies

00:40:01.500 where now it's no longer about fact.

00:40:05.220 And people haven't caught on that they're violating a covenant between the relationship.

00:40:13.060 You tell the truth, we'll fucking watch it.

00:40:16.240 Right?

00:40:16.740 Right.

00:40:17.100 That's not happening anymore.

00:40:18.240 Now we've evolved into a scenario where we have basically a marketing company putting a message into our fucking face

00:40:28.260 that we believe, because it always has been for the past 70 years, supposed to be the truth.

00:40:37.800 But it's not.

00:40:38.600 And what's happening here to the media is people are slowly starting to wake the fuck up

00:40:43.720 because there's so much transparency in social media and in life that people are starting to notice,

00:40:50.460 like, well, wait a minute.

00:40:53.280 I'm friends with black people.

00:40:55.280 We get along.

00:40:56.560 There's not as much racial division as what's going on out there.

00:41:00.420 People aren't fucking, you know, wait a minute.

00:41:02.700 It's not as bad as what they say.

00:41:06.780 You know, like, we're starting to notice, like, some of the things they tell us are just massive exaggerations

00:41:14.900 or different perceptions on facts instead of actually delivering the facts,

00:41:21.520 which I believe is a violation of fucking trust.

00:41:24.500 And so now we have a scenario where we have a lot of people who are starting to wake up and say,

00:41:29.500 fuck, we're in a big game.

00:41:32.540 We're getting manipulated.

00:41:34.340 We're getting fucking, we're getting hurted.

00:41:36.620 We're getting told how to think, how to live, how to eat, how to vote, how to fucking do everything.

00:41:41.600 And where's the truth in it?

00:41:44.120 Right.

00:41:44.560 And so I think, personally, we're on the verge of a massive awakening

00:41:48.900 and a readjustment of how we feel as humans.

00:41:53.480 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:41:54.500 And I think technology's causing it.

00:41:56.060 I think you're right.

00:41:56.800 And I'm not even saying that I necessarily think this is a good thing or a bad thing,

00:42:01.120 but we're now getting to the point where, you know, if something happens somewhere in the world,

00:42:05.560 you know, you got camera crews that are rushing to go cover it and people have a choice.

00:42:10.340 Well, I'm either going to watch CNN or Fox News or whatever,

00:42:15.320 or I happen to know somebody who's there right now and they're live streaming on their camera.

00:42:20.180 Who do I trust more, my buddy or the news agency?

00:42:23.260 And it's just a really weird time to be alive.

00:42:26.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:42:27.460 Yes, totally.

00:42:28.180 But even in that scenario, you have to consider what your buddy's perspective is on what he's reporting.

00:42:36.160 Because there's always two sides to literally every fucking story.

00:42:40.000 And the problem is we've began to trust the message that's delivered to us too much.

00:42:45.960 Instead of us thinking and saying, okay, well, your buddy's saying something different to the news,

00:42:51.660 but he also happens to be an extremist and this, this, this, this, this.

00:42:55.060 Right.

00:42:55.240 So the truth actually is probably somewhere in the middle.

00:42:59.100 So we've lost the ability to be logical when we get information.

00:43:04.380 And that's, I think, the root of the problem amongst all of these different causes.

00:43:08.800 When we have people, you know, marching for this cause or that cause or this or that or this,

00:43:15.240 it's all because they're not really saying, well, is this the truth?

00:43:20.220 Right.

00:43:20.420 They're not asking questions.

00:43:21.460 They're not being critical in a healthy way.

00:43:23.200 And the reason they're not is because they're emotionally invested in the cause.

00:43:26.700 Right.

00:43:27.360 And that's okay, dude.

00:43:28.360 It's okay to be emotionally invested in a cause.

00:43:31.420 Like, it's okay.

00:43:33.160 But understand that your reasoning for being there is a fucking motions, not facts.

00:43:40.840 You know what I'm saying?

00:43:41.600 Like, as long as you're aware of why you're there.

00:43:44.440 Be aware of your own biases.

00:43:45.660 That's right.

00:43:46.180 And make an effort to be more critical and ask hard questions.

00:43:49.540 Absolutely, bro.

00:43:50.320 No, I agree.

00:43:51.040 So at one point in one of the later episodes,

00:43:53.500 one of the characters sees a quote from Oprah written on a table.

00:43:58.900 And I got to hear what you guys have to say about this,

00:44:01.560 because I think this is relevant to a lot of people.

00:44:05.460 It says, you become what you believe.

00:44:08.420 Do you believe that?

00:44:12.060 I think that most people become exactly what they believe they're supposed to become.

00:44:18.080 Yes, I do.

00:44:19.240 I think most people eventually become.

00:44:21.180 I think that's one of the secrets of this whole universe,

00:44:23.880 is that what you think of yourself and what you believe of yourself

00:44:28.560 actually comes true.

00:44:30.280 And if you listen to some of the experts out there on quantum physics and metaphysics

00:44:34.760 and all these different, you know, like let's say Dr. Joel Dispenza,

00:44:38.720 buddy of mine, buddy of ours,

00:44:40.960 you know, he's at the forefront of these types of thinkings.

00:44:45.460 Because it's also, you know, why, like, I think people who truly believe they're supposed to play hockey in the NHL,

00:44:54.540 fucking play it.

00:44:55.620 I think people who truly believe they're going to be a fucking successful entrepreneur,

00:45:00.260 and that's how they see themselves become it.

00:45:03.340 I think when people believe that they're a piece of shit and that they think I'm no good,

00:45:10.820 that's exactly what happens.

00:45:13.160 And so I don't think it's a, I don't think it's,

00:45:15.760 I think it's more about fixing your belief about who the fuck you are

00:45:22.600 and then the world adjusting itself to you.

00:45:25.920 And there's mystical shit to this, but I believe it.

00:45:27.720 That's why you asked me what I believe.

00:45:29.000 That's what I believe.

00:45:29.440 Sal, what do you think?

00:45:33.220 I mean, it could play right back in.

00:45:35.620 Tyler's right.

00:45:36.020 It's a vague statement.

00:45:37.020 Well, no, I mean, you've got to do your part of it, too.

00:45:39.160 It depends on what you're saying.

00:45:40.000 I mean, just because you believe, right, you believe that Obama was the very best president,

00:45:46.240 that does not necessarily make it the truth.

00:45:48.040 That's not what I'm saying.

00:45:49.560 I understand that, but just because you believe there is more to that story is where I have a problem with it.

00:45:56.720 You know, like.

00:45:57.280 Well, what's the quote?

00:45:57.960 You become what you believe.

00:45:58.760 You become what you believe.

00:46:00.180 I find that to be true.

00:46:02.020 And I can see where, if you were to peel back that statement, it could be true.

00:46:06.140 But left at that point, I think it's a very fucking, it's got a lot of work to be done.

00:46:10.000 There's more to it.

00:46:11.060 It's like, look.

00:46:13.580 There's a lot of people believe that they should have my job.

00:46:15.820 That they just believe.

00:46:16.660 Yeah.

00:46:16.860 Yeah, totally.

00:46:17.620 Yeah, but also a lot of people don't understand what it means to actually believe.

00:46:20.760 I think that's accurate.

00:46:22.200 I agree with that, too.

00:46:23.200 They think that they believe.

00:46:23.820 They're ignorant to it.

00:46:24.660 No, when I'm saying believe in, like, I mean, like, you know, inside your fucking heart what the fuck you're supposed to be.

00:46:31.660 You know it.

00:46:32.580 Like, it's not arguable.

00:46:33.640 Like, when I was living with my dad in 2007, after seven years of living away from home, and I had to move back in with him so that I could fucking survive in business, there wasn't a thought in my mind that I wasn't going to be a successful entrepreneur.

00:46:49.860 There wasn't a doubt.

00:46:51.120 There wasn't me, I wasn't like, oh, well, am I supposed to be this or that?

00:46:55.740 At that point in time, I believed it.

00:46:58.840 Now, I went through a point of doubt after that, right?

00:47:02.840 Like, oh, well, I'm going to change.

00:47:04.940 I'm going to maybe go clean carpets or go do this.

00:47:07.780 But that belief of what I was meant to be always fought that.

00:47:12.240 Right.

00:47:13.260 And it turned out, you know, so far to be correct.

00:47:17.140 What was the quote again?

00:47:18.700 You become what you believe.

00:47:20.660 If you're willing to work for it.

00:47:22.260 Should be the end of that quote.

00:47:24.380 Yeah.

00:47:24.620 I think you guys are emphasizing different aspects of it, which I think what you're emphasizing, Andy, is the power of the mind.

00:47:30.900 You've got to get your mind focused on the right things.

00:47:33.580 And you're saying, but you still have to.

00:47:35.740 More than just the mind, he thinks that there's actually powers at work in the universe.

00:47:39.580 I would agree with that.

00:47:40.680 I mean, the law of attraction is real, but I'm saying, like, just because you believe it, there's a whole lot of fucking work that comes with it.

00:47:47.220 Right.

00:47:47.520 No, and you're right.

00:47:48.580 And there's also the flip side of there's the subjective belief and then there's what's objectively true.

00:47:52.620 Well, that's why I don't like that book, The Secret.

00:47:54.620 Yeah.

00:47:54.860 Okay.

00:47:55.060 Everybody talks about the fucking secret.

00:47:57.000 The secret is the coloring book of the law of attraction.

00:48:01.360 It's not real.

00:48:02.120 It's not.

00:48:02.500 It's because it makes it sound like if you just believe that a fucking elephant is going to show up, that an elephant is going to show up.

00:48:09.280 That's just not the truth.

00:48:10.580 The truth is you have to believe and then you have to also go that direction.

00:48:16.060 I see it as like a 50 percent thing.

00:48:18.460 Like when you know what the fuck you're supposed to be, the cards sort of align for you to become that.

00:48:24.800 But so many people believe that that should just come all the way to you, that they don't do their part and meet it at the 50 percent mark.

00:48:33.240 You see what I'm saying?

00:48:33.860 Man, so that's how I see it.

00:48:36.120 And my real life reflects that belief for the evidence.

00:48:41.760 So I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm doing okay in life.

00:48:45.980 So the thing that has really fascinated us, another aspect of this Netflix series that's fascinated us, is this issue, the central issue of charisma.

00:48:55.740 Because the guy that is the Messiah figure, he's a very charismatic person.

00:49:00.080 And we've always been interested, obviously, throughout the whole 300 plus episodes of the MFCO Project and in other areas.

00:49:07.700 We've talked about how do we make a really profound impact on somebody in business, in life.

00:49:13.400 It's so successful to have charisma.

00:49:15.320 Gentlemen, it has been, at the time of the recording of this podcast, it's been just a little bit more than a week since Kobe Bryant was tragically killed and his daughter, as well as the other people in those families lost their loved ones.

00:49:28.980 It was a terrible, terrible accident.

00:49:31.120 And obviously, a lot of people have expressed their love for Kobe, their admiration for Kobe, have extolled different aspects of his character.

00:49:40.300 Obviously, Kobe wasn't just a basketball player, not just one of the best basketball players of all time.

00:49:47.040 He was an icon, really.

00:49:51.320 As a way, partly to honor him, I would love to talk about a little bit, like, what do you think was the source of his charisma?

00:49:58.120 Like, why did he, I mean, was it just talent?

00:50:01.000 He was just a good ball player?

00:50:02.420 No, I think he represented a lot of amazing qualities that people wish they had in themselves, and I think that's what people were so attracted to him for.

00:50:14.180 Whether you loved him or you hated him or you rooted for him against him, I mean, you can't deny the guy's work ethic.

00:50:20.640 You can't deny his achievement.

00:50:22.280 You can't deny his skill.

00:50:23.760 And you can't deny what he did for other people.

00:50:27.540 So, like, I feel like he lived a very, like, even somewhat misunderstood but noble existence.

00:50:34.460 And I think people aspire that, right?

00:50:38.540 They aspire to be somebody who, you know, finds their niche and then goes all in on that niche and wins and then also does good things.

00:50:51.400 Because I think he represents what the dream of America is all about.

00:50:57.380 I'm not talking about being rich.

00:50:58.620 I'm just talking about finding where it is you're supposed to be, recognizing that, going all in, and then achieving in that lane.

00:51:07.420 And he's always done that.

00:51:10.480 And, you know, he did it so well that he became a legend, you know?

00:51:15.860 You know, there's a lot of guys who have done a lot of cool shit that if they died, people would say, man, that sucks.

00:51:22.860 But, like, dude, when I heard of that Kobe's death, I almost fucking threw up.

00:51:26.420 Like, it made me sick to my stomach.

00:51:28.480 Yeah.

00:51:28.920 Because I think a lot of it was because he's close to my age.

00:51:31.940 And I feel like, and I don't know Kobe, I never met him, but I feel like I felt kind of aligned in what he was trying to do with his life.

00:51:48.360 Like, he worked his fucking ass off his whole life.

00:51:51.940 Now he's 41 years old.

00:51:54.060 And I could, you know, you could see him starting to have some fun and live a little life.

00:51:58.880 And then all of a sudden he's fucking gone.

00:52:01.360 Yeah.

00:52:01.620 And so, like, you know, I see that as, you know, that could fucking happen to me.

00:52:09.960 Like, I've been working my fucking ass off my whole life.

00:52:12.640 You know what I mean?

00:52:13.400 And so, I personally take it as a signal to, like, hey, bro, maybe you should go on a trip or two.

00:52:23.120 Or maybe you should live a little bit, you know?

00:52:25.540 That's saying get fucking lazy and abandon the reservation.

00:52:28.480 Right.

00:52:28.880 You know, but, you know, because, dude, it takes, he's got a legendary work ethic.

00:52:35.940 Yeah.

00:52:36.120 You asked Tim Grover about his work ethic.

00:52:37.620 It's fucking insane.

00:52:38.860 Yeah.

00:52:39.100 You know?

00:52:39.540 And when you work and put that much time into something, you're giving up a lot of shit on the front end.

00:52:45.760 And, you know, I think that's a, it fucking sucks.

00:52:51.780 Yeah.

00:52:51.960 You know, I feel bad for his family.

00:52:53.640 I feel bad.

00:52:54.080 I feel bad for him.

00:52:55.000 Because I know in his mind he was, like, thinking, man, this is my time to live.

00:52:59.320 This is my time to do shit.

00:53:00.460 This is my time to do all the shit I couldn't do before.

00:53:02.740 And then it got fucking, you know, it's gone.

00:53:05.080 Yeah.

00:53:06.120 Sal, Andy mentioned he found his niche and then he went all in and he had an amazing work ethic.

00:53:11.160 Is that the key?

00:53:12.580 Yeah.

00:53:12.800 I mean, I think Kobe is the prime example of not talking about it, being about it.

00:53:17.820 And the shortcoming for me is, you know, I was never a Kobe fan because I'm not really a basketball fan.

00:53:23.180 And, you know, since his passing, you know, I dug into all the information and really learned a lot about him in the sense.

00:53:30.000 And I really, you know, I felt cheated in the sense where, you know, there was an opportunity.

00:53:34.700 Like you would have been a fan.

00:53:35.960 I would have been a huge fan.

00:53:36.780 Yeah, because, you know, there's pieces of people that I associate and want to be like.

00:53:42.520 And I always think, like, all right, this is to the belief part.

00:53:45.140 Find somebody who you'd like to be and emulate those aspects of their life.

00:53:48.340 Like, how would they respond?

00:53:49.500 And in diving into Kobe's existence, I liked it.

00:53:54.320 And maybe this is narcissistic.

00:53:55.520 Like, a lot of the things that he thought and preaches and how he responds to questions is exactly how I think.

00:54:01.820 And, you know, that's a far stretch.

00:54:03.540 No means do I think I'm Kobe Bryant in that sense.

00:54:05.480 But it's what I aspire to be.

00:54:07.380 And when you look at not only how he led in the locker room, how he competed on the floor, how his mindset is, it's definitely not by accident.

00:54:18.720 But, again, going back to the belief, it's built out of work, you know.

00:54:22.100 And when you look at a man like that who has all that power, you know, he had his flaws, right?

00:54:26.600 He made some mistakes.

00:54:27.600 But he owned them.

00:54:28.840 And that's a huge fucking piece about life is, like, dude, you'd be a real fucking man, you've got to own your shit.

00:54:33.920 And you've got to respond to it.

00:54:35.480 You know, talking back to the beginning of the conversation.

00:54:37.380 And then the piece of not only him being a champion and a teammate, because he was a teammate and not all of his teammates liked him.

00:54:43.940 But why didn't they like him?

00:54:45.260 They didn't like him because he expected more out of them than they expected out of themselves.

00:54:48.920 And I think when you look at that, especially inside the business setting, like, when I get fucking pissed off at my guys, like, I often do, like, I want more for you than you want for yourself.

00:54:57.640 And you feel like you've got to drag, right?

00:54:58.980 And so then it creates a little bit of that competitive piece.

00:55:00.980 And so, like, diving into, you know, Kobe's life, it made me really respect the man.

00:55:06.780 And, you know, going into him being a father, that's a different level.

00:55:11.080 You know, because you look at, you know, to Andrew's point, he worked his entire life to get to this point.

00:55:15.900 And you could see it in his face and his smile and how he communicated with Gigi.

00:55:20.260 You know, being a father, like, I could only, not even imagine, I couldn't imagine, you know, what not only, because in my head, like, the first thing, this is like, I don't know, my brain's weird.

00:55:32.020 But the first thing I think of is, like, how did he respond when the helicopter went sideways or what happened?

00:55:36.360 And in my brain, thinking, because I process all negative shit like that, I think he ultimately, the first thing he did is look at his daughter and tell her he's going to be okay.

00:55:44.180 Like, that's how I think in my brain.

00:55:46.040 And I think, you know, the champion inside him, that's the action he took is like, hey, we're going to be fine.

00:55:51.100 And when you look at how he's lived his life with that mindset, it's really fucking awesome.

00:55:58.940 And I don't think how his greatness is, it's not an accident.

00:56:03.040 And, you know, I always tell people, like, because I talk about death a lot, like, to my guys.

00:56:06.360 And I always say, hey, when I die, the line needs to be from here to China.

00:56:09.040 And if, you know, if I live my life correctly and do what I'd like to do, it's going to show at my funeral.

00:56:15.820 And I think what we learned about Kobe Bryant that day is it shut the internet down, shut the world down.

00:56:19.560 Yeah.

00:56:19.880 And so at 40 years old, that motherfucker made the impact, like, the impact that I want to make, right?

00:56:25.780 Yeah.

00:56:25.940 So there's a level of admiration there that it's far beyond anybody that I have seen, and I wasn't even a fan.

00:56:31.080 Yeah.

00:56:31.500 I mean, that does, it does show someone's greatness when someone doesn't enjoy the game of basketball, but they want to watch Kobe.

00:56:39.960 You know?

00:56:40.220 Dude, I mean, even now.

00:56:41.460 He's on another level.

00:56:42.420 All of his YouTube stuff, like, I'm watching just because, you know, there's things that you can pick up from sport to business or from sport to life.

00:56:49.300 Like, that guy literally stopped the world.

00:56:51.480 Right.

00:56:51.800 The fucking world.

00:56:53.520 Like, how good do you have to be to stop the world?

00:56:55.360 Well, dude, and no shit, and I've seen a lot of negative comments about people coming from people, like, saying, well, why doesn't fucking other people die all the time?

00:57:05.500 Because that ain't fucking life, motherfucker.

00:57:07.960 That's right.

00:57:08.240 You want to be fucking remembered?

00:57:09.720 You want people to fucking make a big deal about you?

00:57:12.100 You better dedicate and go all in on what the fuck you're about.

00:57:15.300 Right.

00:57:15.580 Because people that aren't great, you don't get that shit.

00:57:19.780 That's not, to me, that's fucking people whining about the way things are.

00:57:24.620 Absolutely.

00:57:25.060 You know, oh, well, it's not fair to fucking blah, blah, blah, so-and-so, no one cared.

00:57:31.100 Well, no one cared because it fucking wasn't valued enough to care about, no matter whose fault that is.

00:57:38.940 Okay?

00:57:39.320 Whether it's the person's fault, whether it's the media's fault, whether it's the culture's fault, but at the end of the day, people don't value it as much.

00:57:46.860 That's the truth.

00:57:47.740 They value what the fuck they see.

00:57:49.920 Okay?

00:57:50.560 Well, I think they value the result, right?

00:57:52.680 I mean, life is very much result-driven.

00:57:55.400 And the result that you see from Kobe's ability to lead and to produce, he was producing a legacy.

00:58:03.660 You know, built through core value system of work and lead by example and being a great father and being a great teammate and being a great mind.

00:58:13.960 Like, his ability to influence the world is what made the world miss him when he was gone.

00:58:20.440 You know, and that doesn't come with just being average.

00:58:22.540 That comes with being fucking great.

00:58:24.500 Right.

00:58:25.220 Right.

00:58:25.740 I thought it was interesting, or touching, not interesting.

00:58:31.220 You know, Gigi, the one that perished with him, was the one that he thought was the real beast, the one that was going to be better than him.

00:58:38.440 What's that?

00:58:38.980 There's no doubt.

00:58:39.580 You can see it in it.

00:58:40.380 You can see it in how he communicated to her just through those videos.

00:58:43.600 Like, that was his legacy, right?

00:58:46.840 Yeah.

00:58:47.100 That was his basketball star.

00:58:48.360 Exactly.

00:58:49.100 And witnesses, close friends say that he took a real delight in sharing his love for the game of basketball with Gigi.

00:58:56.160 And that's the other piece in this, right?

00:58:58.920 As far as charisma goes, is finding something that you have a real love and a passion for.

00:59:04.520 Guys, it's super, super trite.

00:59:06.880 And it's a very, very shopworn, cliche topic.

00:59:10.520 But people are interested in it.

00:59:12.460 How do you find out what you're really passionate about?

00:59:16.980 Like, how do you find, how do you build a life that revolves around something you're passionate about?

00:59:22.100 You're only willing to sacrifice what that man was willing to sacrifice for something he's that passionate about.

00:59:27.780 Meaning, like, whenever they say you should love what you do because you never work a day in your life, the saying is kind of bullshit.

00:59:32.740 But when you look at the ability to go to the next level and the ability to be able to sacrifice relationships with your friends and sacrifice weekends and sacrifice nights and Christmas and New Year's Day, you can only do that.

00:59:48.760 And it's only palatable when you can figure out that that's something you'd love to fucking do.

00:59:54.240 You know, when you look at, like, why did he go to the gym at 3 o'clock?

00:59:57.760 Because he cared so deeply about the fucking game and being the greatest version of him that he was willing to sacrifice whatever that took to get there.

01:00:03.960 And if you're just willing, I mean, this is the 9 to 5 mentality.

01:00:06.820 If you struggle to be 9 to 5, like, you're not passionate about that.

01:00:10.700 You're not going to show up early.

01:00:11.820 You're not going to stay late.

01:00:12.760 You're not going to put it in the work.

01:00:13.580 And then guess what?

01:00:14.320 At the end of your time, no one's going to give a fuck.

01:00:16.520 Yeah, and that's three or four people going to fucking hurt for about a week.

01:00:19.820 But I think that's the thing where passion should be the driver for your ability to find success, you know?

01:00:27.360 There's just a lot of motherfuckers out there that talk about wanting to have a legacy and don't do nothing to fucking create any kind of fucking legacy.

01:00:33.240 Listen, it's just the reality.

01:00:35.100 You don't get the fucking prize without doing the work.

01:00:37.260 If you want to matter when no one's fucking, when you ain't around, you want your shit to matter, you better do some shit that fucking matters.

01:00:42.560 That's the truth, okay?

01:00:45.280 I don't know how, I didn't make the fucking rules.

01:00:47.580 Did you make the rules?

01:00:48.420 No.

01:00:49.080 Did you make the rules?

01:00:50.080 Yes.

01:00:50.660 Okay.

01:00:51.160 Well, why did you make the rule that way?

01:00:53.020 I mean, dude, look.

01:00:54.560 It's like, the problem we have in this whole fucking scenario is that people just aren't willing to accept the way things are.

01:01:01.700 It's a point of this podcast.

01:01:04.020 It's real as shit.

01:01:05.440 Like, realist.

01:01:06.660 Realist.

01:01:07.100 Like, yes, I understand that every single person who dies tragically should get, you know, it's sad.

01:01:16.260 It's fucked up.

01:01:17.280 But the truth is that unless you do the work while the fuck you're here, nobody's really going to care.

01:01:23.840 Correct.

01:01:24.280 They're going to care.

01:01:25.100 Your family's going to care.

01:01:26.400 But the people you, when people talk about legacy, they're talking about the world, right?

01:01:34.200 What's the world going to think?

01:01:35.580 Well, the world has to know who the fuck you are for them to think anything.

01:01:39.460 You want to talk about narcissism at its finest.

01:01:41.660 I mean, I want the world to know my name when I'm dead because I want them to know that.

01:01:47.500 Yeah, right.

01:01:48.100 You know what I mean?

01:01:48.640 So I'm willing to sacrifice whatever I got to do because, you know, your name is infinite.

01:01:55.160 You know what I'm saying?

01:01:55.900 The lessons you leave are infinite.

01:01:57.380 They're able to be passed on.

01:01:58.920 Well, the truth is, bro, is that legacy isn't really mad.

01:02:02.180 Legacy doesn't really, if you really think about legacy, it really has nothing to do with people remembering your name.

01:02:09.280 It has to do with the effects of what the people built in their own lives based around how you influence them to build that.

01:02:17.080 So there's a lot of people who have an amazing legacy and no one knows who the fuck their name is.

01:02:21.100 That's the truth.

01:02:22.200 What I'm saying is if you want a fucking public legacy, you got to do things in the fucking public.

01:02:28.320 I see these motherfuckers commenting on people's shit saying, oh, well, fucking Kobe, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:02:34.320 And I go to their page, it's fucking private.

01:02:36.960 Well, I'm sorry, bro.

01:02:38.340 If the world doesn't know who the fuck you are or what you stand for or what you do or nobody's going to.

01:02:44.080 It's just reality, man.

01:02:46.180 Yeah, I mean, I think in that scenario, if you're willing to throw shade, you should probably go check yourself in the mirror.

01:02:53.640 Look, that's the internet, man.

01:02:55.140 No, I understand.

01:02:55.820 But I mean, I'm assuming that there's not one listener inside this audience that is that type of person.

01:03:02.200 Yeah.

01:03:02.760 But if there is, you need to go look in the mirror.

01:03:07.540 So the quote that Kobe wanted to be remembered by is this, to think of me as a person that's overachieved, that would mean a lot to me.

01:03:16.960 That means I put a lot of work in and squeezed every ounce of juice out of this orange that I could.

01:03:21.660 Like, I think that's, I see him that way.

01:03:25.740 Yeah.

01:03:26.020 Yeah.

01:03:26.260 I mean, I don't, I mean, that's the thing, right?

01:03:28.080 Like, I don't look at him and I don't look at Kobe and say he was fucking lucky or say he was talented or say anything.

01:03:34.400 I look at Kobe and I say, there's a fucker that, that got it.

01:03:37.580 There's a dude who fucking put in the work.

01:03:39.540 There's a guy who identified his natural propensity to do a certain thing and went all in on it.

01:03:44.540 And I, and, and as a result, he created greatness and that greatness inspired lots and lots of people.

01:03:50.560 That's a fucking real legacy.

01:03:51.820 Well, and I think you do.

01:03:52.920 I watched a, I watched a phenomenal video on him and he was talking about, you know, like a lot of people will say that I was talented.

01:03:59.580 Yes, I was.

01:04:00.180 But however, I wasn't the most talented.

01:04:01.880 I wasn't, I didn't have a 40 inch vertical.

01:04:04.440 Or, you know, I didn't have the biggest hands.

01:04:06.640 I was not, I was quick, but I wasn't the quickest guy.

01:04:08.820 Like, I could shoot, but I wasn't the best shooter.

01:04:10.720 And so, he identified all his weaknesses and then went in and put the work in to make the most out of it.

01:04:16.360 And I think the translation to life there is like, you know, people have, you know, quote, what is success?

01:04:21.420 Well, success is finding what your ability is and maximizing that fucking ability.

01:04:26.580 Was he gifted?

01:04:27.440 Yes.

01:04:28.160 Did he work his ass off to take that gift and put him to be one of the greats of all times?

01:04:33.540 Yes.

01:04:33.960 And I think when you talk about squeezing the orange, yes, he had a nice orange.

01:04:38.140 However, he squeezed the fuck out of that orange.

01:04:40.460 He did.

01:04:40.880 He did for sure.

01:04:42.400 Well, we all definitely pray that he rests in peace and good stuff, guys.

01:04:47.260 Hey, not to have an awkward transition, but I'll do one anyway.

01:04:52.100 Of course you will.

01:04:53.360 Of course you'll announce it.

01:04:54.760 So, I put out a call for questions for you guys for some Q&As.

01:05:03.060 And I got a little Q&A session.

01:05:04.240 I got a little Q&A session.

01:05:05.900 Kind of wrap it up a little bit.

01:05:07.300 You know what, dude?

01:05:07.920 We should do that more often.

01:05:09.000 I like little Q&As.

01:05:09.360 I think we should.

01:05:10.140 Yeah.

01:05:10.340 We for sure should.

01:05:11.680 So, I'll start with one of the lighter ones, which is, this is one from T-Boy, The Rula.

01:05:18.760 Oh.

01:05:19.540 The Rula.

01:05:20.220 I don't know what your real name is, brother.

01:05:22.700 It looks like Ty.

01:05:23.580 So, Ty actually just wants Andy's breakdown of the whole cannabis industry.

01:05:29.220 He said, Andy said he got out of smoking when he was 25, hardcore smoking.

01:05:34.180 I just need you guys to elaborate on what you think about the whole trends in cannabis

01:05:38.560 and the cannabis industry and good, bad, and the ugly.

01:05:42.400 That's a pretty open-ended question.

01:05:44.000 I'm not sure what he meant.

01:05:45.120 Well, I mean, I'm assuming he's asked.

01:05:48.260 Look, dude, I'll just answer it.

01:05:49.560 First of all, why the fuck was it ever illegal in the first place?

01:05:54.660 Okay?

01:05:54.980 It's much less impairing than alcohol, in my opinion.

01:06:00.180 I don't know what the science says.

01:06:01.920 There could be facts otherwise.

01:06:03.880 Tyler, you should look that up while I'm talking and then tell me the facts.

01:06:07.080 But, in my opinion, I feel far less impaired when I smoke marijuana than when I drink alcohol.

01:06:14.080 When I drink alcohol, bad shit happens.

01:06:16.720 When I smoke marijuana, bad shit does not happen.

01:06:20.200 And so, I have to question why the fuck it was ever illegal in the first place.

01:06:23.720 I've always felt that way.

01:06:25.240 I've always thought that it should never be illegal.

01:06:27.440 I've always thought it was insane that you put people in prison for years and years and years and years

01:06:32.980 for fucking selling something that just doesn't do bad shit to people.

01:06:39.880 Now, I know there's people who are going to say, oh, it's a gateway drug.

01:06:42.480 Like, well, motherfucker, maybe.

01:06:44.460 I've smoked my whole life.

01:06:45.620 I've never done one line of cocaine.

01:06:47.080 I've never smoked crack.

01:06:48.400 I never fucking injected heroin into my body.

01:06:52.660 I think people who have a propensity to be that way are going to be that way regardless.

01:06:57.580 Okay?

01:06:57.900 And if you're going to say that marijuana is a gateway, alcohol is a fucking gateway to a lot of bad shit.

01:07:04.040 All right?

01:07:05.060 So, and then if you take the physical effects of the product, they're far less than fucking alcohol.

01:07:12.780 So, to me, when I examine all the facts, I see a scenario where we had a society who felt like it should be morally wrong, or it is morally wrong.

01:07:29.180 Then we were fed a lot of propaganda.

01:07:31.060 You know what I mean?

01:07:31.720 What do you think of the way?

01:07:33.100 What's the image that pops in your head when you think of a fucking person who smokes marijuana?

01:07:38.520 Like a washed out hippie?

01:07:40.800 Yeah, like a burnout, right?

01:07:41.740 Yeah.

01:07:42.280 That's just not true.

01:07:43.460 Because I know a lot of fucking, I know a lot of big CEOs that are rich as fuck, that are highly fucking effective, that smoke weed every day.

01:07:52.100 Okay?

01:07:53.300 Fact.

01:07:53.800 It's just a fact.

01:07:54.580 I see it.

01:07:55.320 Yeah, antidepressants are, you know.

01:07:57.560 Prescribed.

01:07:58.060 Yeah.

01:07:58.180 Right, so really what we've had here is we've had a scenario where the government finally woke the fuck up and realized, holy shit, dude, we could solve a lot of problems by legalizing this shit.

01:08:08.980 We could put less people in prison.

01:08:10.540 We could fucking make more money taxing it.

01:08:13.140 We could add jobs.

01:08:14.560 We could do all these things and create a new economy that helps fucking the country overall by not doing a lot of damage.

01:08:21.820 It's a social thing.

01:08:22.900 So, my opinion on the cannabis industry from a moral standpoint is like, dude, it should have happened a long time ago.

01:08:29.760 That's my personal opinion.

01:08:31.560 Now, for me, economic, I think it's the greatest fucking opportunity of our lifetime.

01:08:37.160 I think it'll be the greatest.

01:08:38.780 Dude, Chris and I are in the cannabis space.

01:08:42.980 We have manufacturing licenses, cultivation licenses.

01:08:47.100 We're building out companies.

01:08:48.180 We're already investing.

01:08:49.760 We've invested in other companies.

01:08:52.540 I think it's the greatest opportunity for business in our life.

01:08:56.980 That's my personal take.

01:08:58.280 Now, it's not the greatest opportunity for everybody because it's a high barrier to entry, and I like the way the government's doing that.

01:09:05.160 They're being strategic about how they're divvying out the licenses and who gets them and who doesn't, and they're trying to create – I know this just from being on the operational – to being on the end of it of trying to get these licenses.

01:09:19.480 They're trying to bring integrity to the business.

01:09:21.660 They're trying to keep the local fucking weed slinger from the corner out of the game.

01:09:27.840 I get that.

01:09:29.220 You know what I'm saying?

01:09:29.960 They're trying to remove that element.

01:09:31.300 And so, dude, I think it's a fucking hell of an opportunity, and I think marijuana does a lot of good for a lot of people.

01:09:40.860 Like, dude, I know it does.

01:09:43.480 I just know it does because I fucking smoke it.

01:09:45.860 Sal, you want to weigh in?

01:09:49.080 Now, Sal's never smoked a fucking weed.

01:09:51.300 Yeah, I've never smoked weed a day in my life.

01:09:52.900 We used to fight about this.

01:09:54.740 Well, it's not even a fight.

01:09:55.820 Actually, now it's just how hard-headed I am.

01:09:58.780 It's just a personal vendetta because everybody – now everybody and their brother is like, oh, dude, I'll pay you 10 grand.

01:10:03.340 I'm not for sale.

01:10:04.500 Right.

01:10:04.840 Like, my point is just –

01:10:06.520 Now, in that regard, I've been smoking a long time.

01:10:10.840 Like, this ain't a fucking – I just want you to – like, you motherfuckers listening, this isn't something I just jumped on.

01:10:16.860 We were fighting about this when we were fucking 16.

01:10:19.180 Oh, no, I mean, mine's a total hold my beer, watch this.

01:10:23.540 You know, like – but, I mean, from the fundamental standpoint, if you're going to make weed illegal, alcohol should definitely be illegal.

01:10:30.380 Totally.

01:10:31.020 You know, and the reason the government's in it is so they can get their hands in the money.

01:10:33.420 It has nothing to do with a fucking – they don't give a fuck about –

01:10:36.200 They don't care about your fucking health if they did.

01:10:38.180 They don't give a flying fuck.

01:10:39.820 They wouldn't fucking allow doctors to prescribe all these fucking opiates and get all these motherfuckers hooked on shit.

01:10:45.360 That's in the lined pockets of the government and the officials.

01:10:49.300 That's shame on them because now they've got all these fucking pain junkies because they're making money from the fucking J&Js of the world lining their pockets, lobbying against it.

01:10:56.880 Now they're lobbying against it.

01:10:57.800 The lobbyist pays the fucking – the politician, the politician passes the bill.

01:11:00.940 People get fucked.

01:11:02.060 Now they say, okay, well, we're getting our – the opiates are getting fucking banned and our money's going away.

01:11:07.020 Where can we go?

01:11:08.020 What can we do?

01:11:08.700 That's right.

01:11:09.080 And alcohol is just kind of like accepted.

01:11:11.020 You know what I mean?

01:11:11.360 Like, hey, man – and listen, I'm a fucking drunk.

01:11:13.980 You know what I mean?

01:11:14.300 I drink fucking five nights a week.

01:11:16.240 So – but I'm also a proponent then you start looking at like – I don't think the government should tell you what you can and can't do in your own home.

01:11:23.680 You know, if you want to fucking smoke crack in your own house –

01:11:26.100 Well, they should.

01:11:26.180 They can.

01:11:26.960 Like, it's not okay to like molest kids in your own home.

01:11:29.100 No, no, no, of course.

01:11:29.820 But I'm talking about from the – if you want to smoke weed in your house, like if you wanted to grow weed in your backyard and smoke it in your fucking house and you don't want to sell it, like I don't see why that's a fucking problem.

01:11:37.920 You know, so like in that sense, in the grand scheme of things –

01:11:41.640 Well, dude, it's all money, Sal.

01:11:42.880 That's my –

01:11:43.460 Yeah.

01:11:43.680 I'm trying to get to that point.

01:11:45.400 When you step back and you start looking at facts like we were talking about earlier, you start analyzing the situation, they don't give a fuck about your health.

01:11:52.020 They don't give a fuck about the – maybe your ability to hedge against the antidepressant.

01:11:57.880 They give a fuck about one thing and one thing only, taxation.

01:12:00.820 They want to take your money.

01:12:01.940 They want to take that money.

01:12:03.080 And they want to make sure instead of it going to Pablo Escobar, it's going to the U.S. government fucking pocket.

01:12:07.700 That's all they care about.

01:12:08.560 And so, you know –

01:12:10.400 To think anything different is just fucking sheepish.

01:12:13.000 Yeah.

01:12:13.340 So, I mean like in the sense like do I have a problem with the monetization of weed?

01:12:18.960 No.

01:12:19.420 I think it's – like to Andrew's point, it's the greatest opportunity that's probably going to pass from an exploding business in our standpoint.

01:12:25.820 Do I think these guys who go out there and fucking bang the fucking health card and the jockey card and they're paying all – it's bullshit.

01:12:33.200 You know it.

01:12:33.660 I fucking know it.

01:12:34.380 Oh, yeah.

01:12:34.820 You're smoking that shit to get fucking high.

01:12:36.680 Like don't fucking –

01:12:38.120 So, I agree with that.

01:12:39.140 Yeah.

01:12:39.320 Like all you motherfuckers out there with your medical cards, you ain't fooling us, bro.

01:12:42.560 Oh, dude, I got it because of my fucking – it helps me sleep.

01:12:46.200 Yeah.

01:12:46.920 So does fucking 10 Bacardian diets.

01:12:49.020 So does fucking heroin, I'm assuming.

01:12:51.020 So does fucking – you know what I mean?

01:12:52.060 Like get the fuck out of here.

01:12:53.280 I got a problem sleeping, you know?

01:12:54.880 Yeah.

01:12:55.240 You should get a medical card, bro.

01:12:56.700 Yeah.

01:12:57.060 You know what I mean?

01:12:57.800 So, there's – and when it comes down to it, it's all personal agenda.

01:13:02.220 Like this goes back to like the Democrat, Republican, the fuck – that's why I try to –

01:13:05.800 And I try to stay super neutral.

01:13:07.840 I mean, clearly, I don't smoke weed.

01:13:10.420 I never have in my entire fucking life.

01:13:12.760 So I could take –

01:13:13.440 Are you saying you won't?

01:13:14.380 No.

01:13:14.760 Yeah, I won't.

01:13:15.440 You'll never smoke weed your whole life?

01:13:16.580 Nope.

01:13:16.780 Out of principle.

01:13:17.700 That way I can look –

01:13:18.260 You won't?

01:13:18.680 That way I can look at my children and say, you know what?

01:13:20.700 You don't have to.

01:13:21.740 Well –

01:13:22.120 And I made a decision, a conscious decision.

01:13:24.140 Dude, I could fucking – I could have smoked weed with fucking Nelly right here.

01:13:27.000 I don't care.

01:13:27.580 I'm just asking.

01:13:28.180 No, but in my – that's my point.

01:13:29.540 More for me, bro.

01:13:29.960 Well, it was pounding in our heads as a little kid.

01:13:32.500 You want to smoke weed, you're going to sweep in my warehouse.

01:13:34.360 That's something, too.

01:13:35.200 I trust my dad.

01:13:36.420 But anyway, you know, to Andrew's story earlier about there's two sides to every story,

01:13:42.800 I would argue that there's three.

01:13:44.920 There's your side, your side, and the truth, which lies in the middle.

01:13:48.280 And so just because my personal stance is out here and their personal stance is over here –

01:13:53.140 Yeah, but that's higher level thinking.

01:13:54.560 No, no, I understand.

01:13:55.280 In the middle, it's like, hey.

01:13:57.320 That's how people should think.

01:13:59.060 You should be able to differentiate your personal agenda from what the facts are.

01:14:04.420 And that's what I was saying earlier.

01:14:05.980 Like, people don't have the ability to do that.

01:14:07.820 You and I do that all the time because we have to do it to be effective in business.

01:14:11.520 Yeah, and I just – like, to me, like, I always relate it back to fucking sex.

01:14:15.840 This is fucking weird, but that's how many –

01:14:17.760 Whatever you want to do with your husband and wife behind closed doors, go fucking do it.

01:14:22.160 If it makes you feel good, if it makes you sleep better, if you fucking both rocking and rolling,

01:14:25.700 you think it's the greatest fucking thing on earth, close the motherfucking door,

01:14:28.200 turn the fucking lights off, and go to fucking town.

01:14:30.820 So if that's smoke weed, smoke weed.

01:14:32.200 You want to get drunk, get drunk.

01:14:32.660 You get to be a good boy that way.

01:14:34.460 Yeah, well, do you know what I mean?

01:14:36.760 Ain't nobody fucking – ain't nobody judging you.

01:14:39.520 You know that joke.

01:14:40.560 So that's my stance.

01:14:42.200 Good boy?

01:14:42.700 Good boy in there?

01:14:43.780 Well, Ty, thank you for the question.

01:14:45.500 O-Li?

01:14:45.820 O-Li, the good boy?

01:14:47.060 Yeah.

01:14:47.160 I actually don't know enough about the issue to really say either way.

01:14:51.620 Just be on my side.

01:14:52.320 So I'm not going to share what ignorance I have about that whole issue.

01:14:56.980 But so here's a guy –

01:14:59.980 You know, Vaughn didn't get the nickname, the Impaler, for nothing.

01:15:03.200 He gave it to himself.

01:15:04.340 That's why he's got so many – that's why he's got all these kids.

01:15:06.200 Oh, man, I just lost the – hold on.

01:15:08.260 I had the second question.

01:15:09.380 There we go.

01:15:09.840 Here we go.

01:15:10.220 All right, so this next question is from JNew14, Justin Neubauer.

01:15:17.380 So he makes a reference to Kobe, but I think – and I know we were kind of done with that section,

01:15:21.640 but I think it's a really good question, so I'm going to ask it.

01:15:25.180 So he says, I've always wondered Andy's take on this.

01:15:27.620 It's pretty timely due to Kobe's passing.

01:15:29.380 So Kobe was accused of rape early in his career, but ultimately, since that,

01:15:33.560 has been nothing but a standout human being.

01:15:35.480 I've seen many people say – I don't understand his next statement.

01:15:42.840 He says, I've seen many people say why – oh, he says, I've seen many people ask

01:15:47.260 why praise someone who was able to do something like that.

01:15:50.360 He wasn't able to do something like that.

01:15:52.240 It was proven that he didn't do it.

01:15:53.700 Right, so that's the first point.

01:15:55.280 So he says, in addition, my timeline was flooded a month ago with hate about Michael Vick

01:16:00.600 being a captain at the Pro Bowl because of his past.

01:16:04.080 What's your guys' take on all that?

01:16:05.820 If you make a horrible decision early in life or your career,

01:16:09.400 does that condemn you for the rest of your life, regardless of how much good you do afterwards?

01:16:13.500 No, that's the problem with fucking society, bro.

01:16:15.140 Nobody can even do something that's even fucking – dude, Kobe was an adultor.

01:16:21.100 He had a side girlfriend, okay?

01:16:24.340 That side girlfriend, that situation came to a head.

01:16:28.320 This is the fucking facts.

01:16:30.120 This is what came out in court.

01:16:31.400 The side girlfriend, when she realized she wasn't going to be the main girlfriend,

01:16:36.520 decided to tell people that she was raped, okay?

01:16:40.380 This is a whole other discussion.

01:16:42.640 There should be fucking legal ramifications for people to accuse people of rape

01:16:47.520 when they find that it was not true, okay?

01:16:51.020 Those motherfuckers that make those accusations should go to fucking jail

01:16:54.340 because it's too easy right now for a man to be accused of that shit and it not be true.

01:17:00.260 And then – this motherfucker's dead now and people are still talking about it.

01:17:04.120 That's fucking bullshit.

01:17:05.440 When it was proven in a court of law to not be true.

01:17:08.700 You know what I'm saying?

01:17:09.900 So the facts of the scenario are, dude, he settled with her.

01:17:15.120 That does not make him guilty.

01:17:16.820 When you have a lot of money, sometimes people pay people to shut the fuck up.

01:17:21.180 And that's reality.

01:17:22.140 That's what happens, okay?

01:17:23.860 That's our legal system.

01:17:25.040 That's the fault of our legal system.

01:17:27.580 I personally believe that if you do some fucked up shit and you own it,

01:17:32.820 like you said earlier, where he came out –

01:17:35.420 and you know how hard it was for him to stand and go through all that

01:17:39.240 and sit there and say –

01:17:40.340 His wife watching.

01:17:41.100 Yeah, dude.

01:17:41.840 And then to have to admit, like, well, listen, I had a side bitch, okay?

01:17:47.160 And fucking they blew up in my fucking face.

01:17:50.000 That's embarrassing as fuck, right?

01:17:52.640 But he didn't fucking rape her.

01:17:54.860 You know what I mean?

01:17:55.600 So how many of these dudes out there fucking accusing him

01:17:58.860 are out there doing the same shit?

01:18:00.560 A lot.

01:18:01.260 Statistically proven, 60% of the people.

01:18:04.080 60% of the people who are jumping on the bandwagon saying,

01:18:08.860 fuck him, uh-uh-uh, they're doing the same shit.

01:18:12.920 That's the truth, okay?

01:18:14.580 So what was the other example?

01:18:16.960 Well, he just –

01:18:17.740 Michael Vick.

01:18:18.480 Oh, the Michael Vick thing.

01:18:19.540 You know what?

01:18:20.520 My person – okay, this is a good example of how people should think.

01:18:24.780 I think it's – dude, I am the biggest fucking animal person

01:18:28.240 on the face of the fucking planet when it comes to dogs.

01:18:30.960 I love dogs.

01:18:31.960 I don't even have kids because I love dogs so much.

01:18:35.480 Dude, that shit is fucked up.

01:18:37.480 Like, to let – like, dude, I was watching –

01:18:41.020 I was trying to watch that documentary, Don't Fuck With Cats,

01:18:44.460 and they got to – Tyler knows this because we just talked about it yesterday.

01:18:47.180 They got to the point where they were about –

01:18:48.940 like, they were showing the video of that guy going to kill these cats,

01:18:51.880 and I thought they were going to show – I had to turn it off.

01:18:53.500 I can't watch that shit.

01:18:54.720 You know, it makes me fucking sick.

01:18:56.800 Animals are innocent.

01:18:58.060 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:58.700 Oh, absolutely.

01:18:58.860 So, like, I look at it different.

01:19:00.020 So, my personal feeling is that Michael Vick, what he did is in-fucking-excusable.

01:19:08.740 It's inexcusable.

01:19:10.120 But then I'm able to sit back and I step back and I say, okay, where did this come from?

01:19:17.340 Well, when he was raised, that was considered normal for what they did.

01:19:22.160 You know, in that culture where he comes from and what they do, that is not an abnormal thing.

01:19:28.720 So, at what point is the person a product of their environment

01:19:32.580 and not recognizing what they're doing is actually wrong?

01:19:36.140 I don't know the answer to that.

01:19:37.640 But what I do know is that the motherfucker went to jail in the middle of his career.

01:19:42.340 His career never really recovered, okay?

01:19:45.680 And he paid his fucking price.

01:19:47.640 And I personally think when we're talking about celebrating someone on a professional level,

01:19:55.620 like he got named captain of the Pro Bowl team or whatever,

01:19:59.620 I think, personally, I think what he did was fucking the most disgusting thing a human could really do

01:20:05.780 or one of the most.

01:20:07.520 But I think he paid his price.

01:20:09.460 And I think at some point we've got to be able to say,

01:20:11.580 people deserve to pay whatever it is that they did to atone for their sins, so to speak,

01:20:18.900 and move the fuck on.

01:20:21.100 And we have a problem with that in society right now

01:20:23.480 because we let our personal beliefs keep us in the pitchfork and the torch crowd

01:20:30.140 wanting to fucking, you know, ruin people.

01:20:33.000 And I don't think that's okay.

01:20:34.660 So, you know, that's how I feel about it.

01:20:38.400 I feel like if people own their shit and they pay the price for what they did wrong,

01:20:41.740 which in both scenarios I believe they did.

01:20:44.660 So that's what I think.

01:20:47.100 In my experience, and this is certainly true of the history of the church as I've studied it,

01:20:52.040 is that the people who were total screw-ups and did really bad things

01:20:55.480 but then got on the right path ended up being more of a force for good

01:20:58.940 than the people who were goody-two-shoes all along.

01:21:02.200 Well, let me ask you this.

01:21:03.080 Yeah.

01:21:03.680 So doesn't the Bible preach about not judging?

01:21:08.600 Yes or no?

01:21:09.340 Yeah.

01:21:09.800 Doesn't it teach about forgiving?

01:21:12.280 Absolutely.

01:21:12.980 Redemption.

01:21:13.580 The whole story is redemption, bro.

01:21:15.200 Sometimes it's really fucking hard to forgive people.

01:21:17.840 It is.

01:21:18.420 Just like I got a motherfucker who stabbed me in the fucking face

01:21:21.520 and almost killed me.

01:21:22.980 I forgive that dude.

01:21:24.120 Right.

01:21:24.820 I'm not judging that dude.

01:21:25.920 I hope that dude's living a really good life.

01:21:28.220 Right.

01:21:28.640 You get what I'm saying?

01:21:29.340 Absolutely.

01:21:29.740 And like, dude, that takes a lot of fucking strength for anybody.

01:21:33.680 Like, dude, it takes a lot of strength for people to look at Michael Vick

01:21:36.440 and say, you know what?

01:21:39.060 He paid his price.

01:21:40.120 Even though I feel a certain way about this scenario,

01:21:43.520 I have to accept the fact of the matter is that he was dealt this punishment.

01:21:49.520 He served that punishment.

01:21:51.300 I think we allow somebody like that to move on.

01:21:54.440 That's my personal feeling.

01:21:56.100 Oh, absolutely.

01:21:56.860 I'd be interested to hear what he thinks.

01:21:58.220 Yeah, what do you think, though?

01:21:59.740 I mean, for me personally, you know,

01:22:03.500 when I started living like a true life of forgiveness in a sense,

01:22:08.360 it's going to sound really Bible thumper of me,

01:22:09.920 but, you know, I really did feel my life got insurmountably better.

01:22:15.080 And the reason I say that is because, you know,

01:22:17.300 I've learned to try to erase negativity from my brain

01:22:20.400 because negative thoughts steal a lot of your energy.

01:22:23.040 And when I started to really like start to see things,

01:22:26.660 kind of how Andrew was stating him, like, you know,

01:22:28.280 Michael Vick grew up in that environment.

01:22:29.460 So for me to judge him for growing up in that environment, it's not fair to him.

01:22:32.500 Did he do what he did?

01:22:33.720 Was it wrong?

01:22:34.520 Absolutely.

01:22:35.000 It was a million percent wrong.

01:22:36.040 However, you know, my ability to forgive has taught me to release that out of my brain

01:22:42.900 so that I have the ability to move on, you know, not dwell on it and not think about it.

01:22:46.600 And not like when people do me wrong, like I know they do me wrong.

01:22:49.380 And I know I could like get in a little bickering match back and forth with them,

01:22:52.580 but that's not my place.

01:22:53.440 Like it's my job to move on, forgive them for that portion of it,

01:22:57.620 and fucking step outside and keep moving, you know?

01:22:59.780 And so, like, you know, look at Kobe.

01:23:02.640 Like he paid his price.

01:23:05.200 You know he paid his price when he walked back in that bedroom with his wife.

01:23:08.440 Oh, yeah.

01:23:09.020 And he had to figure that out.

01:23:10.200 And I'm sure that relationship was never the same.

01:23:13.240 And she had to forgive him, right?

01:23:15.380 And that's part of that process is being able to forgive because, you know,

01:23:20.560 how does the quote go about throwing stones?

01:23:24.000 Oh, let he who is sinless cast the first stone.

01:23:26.260 Okay, that's a good fucking place to start, you know?

01:23:28.840 I agree with that.

01:23:29.620 I think if people live by that, we'd have a much better world.

01:23:32.820 People have forgotten that, bro.

01:23:34.500 You know, like people think that they can hide in the crowd, right?

01:23:40.100 But, like, you know, God sees your fucking DMs.

01:23:44.480 God sees your texts.

01:23:46.060 God sees your behaviors.

01:23:48.800 You're not hiding, bro.

01:23:50.020 Right.

01:23:50.300 Like that's what people think.

01:23:51.700 I'm going to join this because I'm fucking for this.

01:23:55.180 Well, all the other things that you do wrong,

01:23:57.280 there's judgment for those things.

01:24:00.260 So I believe that.

01:24:01.880 Like, I'm a spiritual dude.

01:24:03.420 That's my belief.

01:24:04.100 Karma is real.

01:24:04.880 I agree.

01:24:05.440 Listen, every day of my life and every time I go to church,

01:24:08.480 there's a phrase that I pray, which is,

01:24:10.980 forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.

01:24:15.060 The whole point for me is I don't know how people can just, like,

01:24:18.720 refuse to forgive people or refuse to give people a sense of mercy or grace

01:24:23.140 because, to me, I can only speak for myself.

01:24:26.640 I've screwed up so many times and I've received so much goodness from God

01:24:30.040 in spite of that.

01:24:31.540 How can I not give it to somebody else?

01:24:33.340 Totally agree.

01:24:33.760 I feel that.

01:24:34.160 Now, hold on, dude.

01:24:35.120 Let me hit on that, too, for a second.

01:24:36.960 Yeah.

01:24:38.000 Dude, everything good in life is the result of something hard.

01:24:45.500 Mm-hmm.

01:24:46.300 You know, forgiving people who do really fucked up shit, guess what?

01:24:50.320 Sometimes it's really hard.

01:24:52.360 You don't have, forgiving people does not mean that you don't care.

01:24:55.680 It means knowing what they did and recognizing the gravity of what they did

01:25:00.700 and still forgiving them.

01:25:02.260 That's fucking Christ-like.

01:25:03.700 Absolutely.

01:25:04.300 Okay?

01:25:04.920 People don't think that way.

01:25:06.120 It's not minimizing it.

01:25:06.740 It's not saying, oh, it's not a big deal.

01:25:08.260 You're overcoming something, and that's important.

01:25:11.000 It's an important thing for people to think about.

01:25:13.460 Well, and just because you've, like, the forgive and forget model,

01:25:16.200 those are two different things.

01:25:18.100 You know, forgiveness in your heart and being able to move on

01:25:21.800 is different than acting like it never happened.

01:25:24.440 Mm-hmm.

01:25:24.700 You know what I mean?

01:25:25.260 And so, for me, I think specifically in, you know, business relationships

01:25:30.180 or in life, like, I'm able to check down those mistakes a lot easier now

01:25:34.940 as I've matured as an adult than I used to because I used to hang it over their head

01:25:38.780 and, like, you know, I'm going to use this against you as a pawn and a chip.

01:25:42.320 And instead, then I would, now I choose to forgive and move on versus

01:25:46.280 and not utilize that relationship anymore than I do to hold it over their fucking head

01:25:51.000 and slander them, if you will.

01:25:52.280 Yeah, absolutely.

01:25:52.700 Yeah, but also, too, like, you know, I don't think forget is what you're supposed to do.

01:25:58.060 No.

01:25:58.440 Right, right.

01:25:58.780 I think it's forgive and remember and then be smart about recognizing

01:26:04.440 the pattern starts to repeat and be aware of that.

01:26:07.880 Correct.

01:26:08.060 Well, the example I always use is if an extended member of my family

01:26:12.640 molested one of my girls, I could come to a point where I would forgive that person,

01:26:17.720 but they would never be around my girls again.

01:26:19.500 And there's nothing wrong with that.

01:26:20.240 Right, that doesn't mean I don't forgive them.

01:26:22.640 That's a logical, smart decision.

01:26:25.780 Right, and people mistake, like, forgiveness is bearing no ill will to somebody.

01:26:30.000 It's saying, I don't hope you die or I don't hope you have a miserable life.

01:26:34.480 There's situations where I'm not Christ-like because that's something that-

01:26:37.700 Yeah, hey, listen, bro, I would need God's grace to do that.

01:26:41.500 But see, that is being a human.

01:26:44.780 Right.

01:26:44.940 You understand?

01:26:46.140 You're not supposed to be fucking perfect.

01:26:48.100 Sometimes you're going to feel things and do things and be infuriated by things

01:26:54.240 that you're going to have a really fucking hard time with.

01:26:57.780 And sometimes it's impossible to forgive people for things.

01:27:02.100 I personally agree with what you said, because if someone were to do that to your kids,

01:27:06.840 I would fucking kill them.

01:27:08.640 It would be worth prison for me.

01:27:10.560 You understand?

01:27:12.320 You understand what I'm saying?

01:27:13.700 Like, it would be worth the prison for me.

01:27:16.280 Like, I would say-

01:27:16.700 Sure, I can identify with that emotion for sure.

01:27:18.420 Yes, and I would say, okay, well, now I got to kill this motherfucker.

01:27:21.620 And I would know what I have to do to get right with God about that.

01:27:26.360 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:27:27.300 No, and I think for me, when you cross-

01:27:29.700 I have a much greater deal of forgiveness against me, personally, than I do against those closest

01:27:35.520 to me.

01:27:35.880 Oh, yeah, I'm-

01:27:36.920 It's very hard for me.

01:27:38.260 Like, I can-

01:27:38.720 Like, things like-

01:27:39.440 That's human.

01:27:40.380 No, I know.

01:27:40.920 But like, in me, like, you can kind of cross me, and I'm like, you know what, it is what

01:27:44.120 it is.

01:27:44.140 Right, but don't hurt my kids.

01:27:44.760 Yeah, I'm the same way.

01:27:45.820 Or one of my guys, or like, I'm very loyal in that fucking sense.

01:27:48.860 Don't fuck with me.

01:27:49.700 You can fuck with me.

01:27:50.480 Don't fuck with my people.

01:27:51.480 Right.

01:27:51.940 No, I hear you.

01:27:52.900 But that's human.

01:27:54.020 Human is struggling with situations like this.

01:27:56.720 Absolutely.

01:27:57.200 Especially with forgiveness of self.

01:27:59.640 Dude, I was thinking this the other day.

01:28:02.700 I don't remember how it got in my brain, but like, you know, when you have someone, okay,

01:28:11.020 like you, Sal, or like me, who are inherently very demanding about people's standards, especially

01:28:17.520 in certain situations like business.

01:28:19.540 Like, dude, I don't fucking ask for people to be perfect.

01:28:22.840 I expect them to be perfect.

01:28:25.580 It's not a fucking ask.

01:28:26.720 It's a, it's a requirement to be around me.

01:28:29.660 Okay.

01:28:30.400 Sometimes, guess what?

01:28:31.360 Most of the time, what are they?

01:28:32.800 They're not perfect.

01:28:33.260 They're not perfect.

01:28:34.180 I also understand that.

01:28:36.060 All right.

01:28:36.940 But what I'm saying is, is that when you look at yourself, like a lot of people think,

01:28:44.120 oh, dude, you guys are just fucking, you're, you, you have unreasonable standards.

01:28:48.660 No, the reason that we have those standards on others is because the standards that we hold

01:28:52.760 for ourselves are actually way fucking higher.

01:28:56.100 You know what I mean?

01:28:57.260 So when you don't, when dude, look, I'll just be real.

01:29:01.720 I didn't figure this out until recently.

01:29:03.480 You know, one of the reasons I've struggled with being down is because, dude, I fucking

01:29:07.880 think I'm a piece of shit because my standards are so fucking high that like, dude, it would

01:29:12.460 be impossible to live to them.

01:29:14.020 Impossible.

01:29:14.800 And I was talking to one of my friends, Aaron Wagner, who's a very, very smart, successful

01:29:18.900 man.

01:29:19.340 A guy I respect a lot.

01:29:20.460 Good friend.

01:29:21.280 Great friend.

01:29:22.300 Okay.

01:29:22.660 Um, and we were talking about it and the truth is, is like, that's also part of being

01:29:28.600 a human is figuring out how to be imperfect, but also not to destroy yourself because you

01:29:36.000 are, you know what I'm saying?

01:29:37.820 Oh, absolutely.

01:29:38.680 I was just telling somebody the other day that, um, the, the account of God creating humankind

01:29:44.460 is very insightful.

01:29:45.720 Like in the book of Genesis, where he takes dust from the, from the ground and he forms it

01:29:51.060 into human being and then he breathes into it, the breath of life, which is the Hebrew

01:29:55.240 word.

01:29:55.600 It sounds like a Klingon word.

01:29:57.040 It's Ruach.

01:29:57.780 It's, it's the spirit of God.

01:29:59.120 And to me, that's the perfect thing we need to remember that we are given the spirit of

01:30:03.420 God as human beings.

01:30:04.360 We have huge potential.

01:30:05.520 We can do everything we put our minds to, but at the end of the day, we're also dust.

01:30:10.600 We're also made from the ground.

01:30:11.900 We're also finite.

01:30:12.760 So it's holding that tension of who we are as human beings that we're capable of so much,

01:30:17.980 but we are after all just human.

01:30:20.340 And it's a, it's a basis of humility.

01:30:22.880 Like the spirit part of it gives us a little sense of swag, but we have to remember that

01:30:28.000 we're dirt.

01:30:28.380 It's like that, that, uh, well, what is it?

01:30:31.020 The Kansas song that you keep on?

01:30:32.800 It's like I've been saying for years.

01:30:35.340 It's hard as fuck to be humble when you're actually good at shit.

01:30:39.540 Like being humble when you're a normal motherfucker walking around the face of the earth, that ain't

01:30:44.140 nothing to brag about.

01:30:45.400 Like what the fuck have you done?

01:30:47.080 Right.

01:30:47.640 What do you got done to be humble about?

01:30:49.100 You got to be good before you can be fucking humble.

01:30:52.320 That's what people don't understand.

01:30:53.960 And dude, another thing I want to hit on this since we're on this fucking talk of, of spirituality.

01:30:59.960 Um, why is it that these people will DM me or you or other people and say, I can't believe

01:31:08.960 that you, um, believe in God and use the word fuck.

01:31:12.400 Or I can't believe that, you know, you, uh, you, you say you're spiritual, but you know,

01:31:17.880 you also like naked women.

01:31:21.140 Like, dude, what the fuck are you guys talking about?

01:31:24.000 First of all, motherfucker, if I remember correctly in the 10 commandments, one of them

01:31:29.020 is thou shall not what judge, you know what I'm saying?

01:31:34.860 Like people are so ignorant of their own hypocrisy.

01:31:38.580 That's a commandment.

01:31:39.400 That's not one of the 10 commandments, but it's one of them.

01:31:41.660 Oh, is it not?

01:31:42.220 Yeah.

01:31:42.380 It's, it's, it's in the Bible, but it's not one of the 10 commandments.

01:31:44.180 See, I don't know.

01:31:44.820 That's why you're here, bro.

01:31:46.180 Look, I don't know all the ins and outs.

01:31:48.320 It's, it's cool, but it's in there.

01:31:50.640 I take it as a pretty strong fucking suggestion.

01:31:53.560 Like, yeah.

01:31:54.420 And you know what?

01:31:56.200 Um, that's, that's another thing that's hard.

01:31:58.580 It's hard not to judge motherfuckers.

01:32:00.340 Right.

01:32:00.760 Right.

01:32:01.080 But dude, again, like it's weird to me that in Christian culture, what people like how often

01:32:08.160 they fucking judge other motherfuckers.

01:32:10.620 Like, what are you doing?

01:32:12.520 Like this goes against the foundation of your fucking beliefs.

01:32:16.240 Well, it was kind of crazy is that it's, it's usually two extremes.

01:32:19.960 It's either people who see, because I don't think people really understand even what it's

01:32:24.240 meant by don't judge, because for one thing, it's clearly not saying that we can't ever

01:32:29.340 evaluate someone's actions.

01:32:31.460 I mean, it's not possible not to judge.

01:32:33.240 Yeah.

01:32:33.580 It's not possible, but that's not what Jesus means.

01:32:36.640 He's not, he's not saying that we can't evaluate people's actions.

01:32:40.900 What Jesus says is judge, not lest you be judged.

01:32:43.300 Meaning you better be really careful pointing a finger at somebody else because there's another

01:32:48.560 million sayings like that.

01:32:49.420 It's going to come around.

01:32:50.620 If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

01:32:52.720 Right.

01:32:53.160 You know what I'm saying?

01:32:53.520 Right.

01:32:53.800 I mean, that's essentially what he's saying.

01:32:56.060 It's the, again, you have the, you have the extremes.

01:32:58.920 You have the people who are always going around telling other people, condemning other

01:33:01.860 people for the way they live.

01:33:02.820 Yeah.

01:33:03.020 And they're not looking at their own lives.

01:33:04.700 And the, and the, you know, like the, the, the, the word picture that Jesus uses is that

01:33:09.800 there are people who walk around trying to take a little speck out of people, uh, people's

01:33:13.920 eyes when they've got a plank in their own eye.

01:33:16.180 And that's, that's what he's saying.

01:33:18.380 Don't do that.

01:33:19.120 But then the other aspect of that, the other extreme is people who, who like, for instance,

01:33:24.320 if you were to evaluate somebody like, and say literally, Hey, there are ways that you

01:33:28.740 need to improve, improve your life.

01:33:31.060 Then they say, Oh, don't judge me.

01:33:32.520 Well, they're wrong too, because it's okay to call people to account.

01:33:36.540 It's okay to say to people, Hey, listen, the way you're living maybe needs a little bit

01:33:40.620 of improvement.

01:33:41.560 Okay.

01:33:41.860 It's just the spirit in which we do that.

01:33:43.700 Right.

01:33:44.460 You know, that's what's funny is that I feel like sometimes unsuccessful people accuse, uh,

01:33:51.120 successful people of judging them simply because of successful people might say, well, listen,

01:33:56.260 if you want to be, if you want to be where I'm at, you got to work.

01:33:58.480 Oh, you're just judging me.

01:33:59.460 Yeah.

01:33:59.700 You're just judging me.

01:34:00.620 You think less than me.

01:34:01.820 No, I'm not.

01:34:02.440 I'm just telling you how things are.

01:34:03.900 I'm speaking to the people who want that life.

01:34:06.800 Right.

01:34:07.640 If you don't want it, cool.

01:34:09.360 Right.

01:34:09.740 I don't care.

01:34:10.460 You know what?

01:34:11.540 Most of my fucking friends, most of my friends are in a completely different economic fucking bracket

01:34:18.120 than I'm in.

01:34:19.000 True or false?

01:34:19.920 True.

01:34:20.880 Most of my friends.

01:34:22.140 Okay.

01:34:23.120 Do I fucking judge that?

01:34:24.540 Do you think I judge my fucking friends that don't make as much money as me?

01:34:27.940 I don't give a fuck.

01:34:29.160 They're my friends.

01:34:29.860 But ironically, when you drive your Bentley into the gas station, you get flipped off.

01:34:34.840 Why?

01:34:35.140 Because that person is judging you.

01:34:37.000 He doesn't drive a Bentley.

01:34:37.880 I don't drive a Bentley because it ain't baller enough for me.

01:34:40.060 Oh, okay.

01:34:40.480 Sorry.

01:34:41.260 Well, let's fucking, if we're going to, we're going to judge my standards.

01:34:44.240 Okay.

01:34:44.680 So what is it?

01:34:45.140 Judge them accurately.

01:34:46.260 Okay.

01:34:46.480 What is it?

01:34:47.020 What did you take me to the emergency room in?

01:34:49.480 That's a Rolls-Royce.

01:34:50.320 That's a Rolls-Royce.

01:34:51.140 Okay.

01:34:51.260 Completely different cars, different levels of balderdom.

01:34:53.880 By the way, if you have to go to the emergency room, I recommend being taken in a Rolls-Royce.

01:34:58.760 Yes.

01:34:59.120 To quote Ferris Bueller, it's so choice.

01:35:01.320 I highly recommend it.

01:35:02.400 But, um, but no, but the point is, is that-

01:35:04.940 That's a great coupon for Vaughn in the car.

01:35:06.220 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:35:07.100 But the point being, people, when they flip you off for that, ironically, that's them judging

01:35:14.220 you.

01:35:14.900 That's them saying, you must think you're better than I am.

01:35:17.340 That's right.

01:35:17.780 Because you're driving a Rolls-Royce.

01:35:18.900 No, I just like cool shit, bro.

01:35:19.840 Yeah.

01:35:20.120 Do you really get flipped off in a car?

01:35:21.500 Almost every time I drive it.

01:35:22.720 Yeah.

01:35:22.840 Really?

01:35:23.200 It happened when I was with him.

01:35:24.620 Yeah, he was with me.

01:35:25.220 He had somebody pull, he saw, we got on a camera, lady pulled up and fucking yelled

01:35:28.600 and screamed at me.

01:35:29.700 Yeah.

01:35:30.260 Yeah, dude.

01:35:30.700 Why?

01:35:31.280 Because, dude, it's, here's why.

01:35:33.480 Because when people see a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or a fucking cool Porsche, they think,

01:35:37.920 oh, that's cool.

01:35:38.560 When they see a fucking Rolls-Royce, they think that guy's fucking, that guy's gotta be

01:35:42.040 a dick.

01:35:42.600 Yeah.

01:35:43.100 It's a selfish car, they think.

01:35:45.380 God, that's-

01:35:45.800 Yeah.

01:35:45.960 But they don't realize, if you ever drove a Rolls-Royce, you'd fucking get it.

01:35:51.000 Yeah.

01:35:51.260 I'm pretty sure the time that you got flipped off, though, was in the TDF.

01:35:53.840 No, it was in the Carrera GT.

01:35:55.500 Carrera?

01:35:55.920 Okay, yeah.

01:35:56.440 But that, what you saw happen, that happens all the time in the Rolls.

01:36:01.180 Yeah.

01:36:01.600 None of the other, like, it's very, I've never actually had it happen in any other car but

01:36:05.120 the Rolls.

01:36:05.680 This kind of goes back to the forgiveness thing for me, though.

01:36:07.880 Like, in my brain, I've learned, dude, if I get hate, I literally don't even, I don't

01:36:14.720 even let it in.

01:36:15.700 It doesn't even bother me.

01:36:16.580 Yeah, like, I don't, but I've learned, like, it's been one of my strengths is, like,

01:36:19.260 I don't listen to the noise.

01:36:20.980 You know, I don't let the noise bother me.

01:36:21.980 I don't care.

01:36:22.380 But I've also learned that that doesn't, that means I can't bring the noise.

01:36:25.560 Right.

01:36:25.680 I don't cast on people.

01:36:26.660 They can do whatever the fuck they want.

01:36:27.980 And that's what I've learned about life.

01:36:29.180 Like, you go make whatever fucking decision you want to make for yourself.

01:36:33.260 It's your life.

01:36:34.080 You can do whatever you want with it.

01:36:36.340 This is my life.

01:36:37.360 I'm going to do whatever I want to do with it.

01:36:39.180 Well, Andy, you mentioned, you mentioned that there's strength in forgiveness.

01:36:42.340 And a quote that I've always loved is Martin Luther King Jr.'s quote, I will hate no man.

01:36:49.420 I will not give him that power over me.

01:36:51.240 Yeah.

01:36:51.420 And I think that's a great way to, an attitude to have about it.

01:36:54.440 Because, like, if you're really enslaved to hate or unforgiveness, that's exactly what

01:36:58.320 you are.

01:36:58.720 You're enslaved.

01:36:59.480 Well, then you start thinking about it.

01:37:00.720 You've given somebody, yeah.

01:37:01.300 You've got power over your brain.

01:37:02.560 Right.

01:37:02.680 You're figuring out how to get him back.

01:37:03.740 You're just seething about it.

01:37:04.880 You know what, man?

01:37:06.000 I don't, that's why I was telling Henry the other day, I got to get back to swimming.

01:37:08.780 Because, like, swimming has allowed me to process a lot of things because it's just me.

01:37:12.280 And I get to talk to myself, like, in a crazy way, you know?

01:37:14.760 Yeah.

01:37:14.900 And today's crazy thought, this morning when I was swimming, I started thinking about,

01:37:19.340 you know, this is about living right.

01:37:20.600 Like, what happens if you come back?

01:37:21.840 And I know, you know, whatever.

01:37:23.180 If you come back and you're the person that you did the most wrong to, like the most ill-willed

01:37:27.640 decision that you made against somebody, you've got to go live that decision.

01:37:31.960 It's all to think about.

01:37:32.800 I know.

01:37:33.220 And then you start thinking about in the pool, man.

01:37:34.980 You start thinking about, you know, like, everything you've done.

01:37:37.160 You're like, oh, man, I've got to start thinking this way.

01:37:38.860 I've got to, every fucking decision in life, I've got to make, start living towards that

01:37:42.220 way.

01:37:42.500 Because now that I think it, this goes to your point about believing it, now maybe it's

01:37:46.800 a reality.

01:37:47.860 You know, now I've got to fucking, I've got to up my goddamn game.

01:37:50.600 I know that's crazy talking.

01:37:51.660 People are like, man, you, what the fuck is wrong?

01:37:52.940 No, no, no.

01:37:53.280 You don't even smoke weed, you think that?

01:37:54.900 No, no.

01:37:55.960 I think that's fucking actually a really intelligent way to think.

01:37:58.740 Because if you could actually take other people's perspective into account before you make

01:38:04.200 a decision that's going to affect them, I think you make better decisions.

01:38:07.400 Of course.

01:38:08.200 Yeah.

01:38:08.600 That's why I believe a good business deal is one that's good for the customer and it's

01:38:11.420 good for the other two parties involved.

01:38:12.700 Come on, motherfucker.

01:38:13.940 I've seen you negotiate with kids in Mexico for chicklets for free.

01:38:18.080 That's a good deal for them.

01:38:20.580 Hey, you didn't mind that?

01:38:21.660 Let's say I got, I got 20 grand off the gym.

01:38:23.940 Let's say I got a couple hundred grand off the furniture.

01:38:25.760 I will say this, you're a great negotiator and I'm teasing what Sal does in Mexico actually,

01:38:33.380 because people are going to, you know, boo, this fucking dick move.

01:38:35.980 The truth is, is what he does is he negotiates with the kids real fucking hard to the point

01:38:41.260 where they're like ready to give them the chicklets for free and then he pays them the

01:38:45.360 real price anyway.

01:38:46.120 That's awesome.

01:38:46.580 And then he teaches them.

01:38:47.640 It's a lesson.

01:38:48.240 It's a little lesson.

01:38:49.220 So I'm teasing, but it's one of my favorite things to go to Mexico when we go to Mexico

01:38:53.580 and talk to like the local people that are working the shops and stuff.

01:38:56.580 Cause they always, you know, it's a deal.

01:38:58.160 It's like, you're going to make the deal.

01:38:59.380 Dude, everybody wants to win the deal.

01:39:00.840 But what I think is cool, both of us have done this a million times, is we'll negotiate

01:39:05.400 the deal with those guys and then we'll pay what they asked the first time.

01:39:07.800 So it's like, it's, it's, it's fun.

01:39:10.180 And they're always like super appreciative.

01:39:12.460 Like it, I don't know.

01:39:14.240 It's one of my favorite things about going to Mexico.

01:39:16.160 That is awesome.

01:39:17.200 So, um, I'm going to stop.

01:39:20.700 Yeah.

01:39:22.120 I was going to.

01:39:22.800 I'm negotiating with the motherfuckers in Haiti, dude.

01:39:24.580 I was just going to wrap it up pretty much.

01:39:26.320 Yeah.

01:39:26.580 No.

01:39:27.760 Okay.

01:39:28.280 I will do that.

01:39:28.960 Uh, I was going to do, uh, he, he mentioned maybe wanting to do predictions for the Super

01:39:34.260 Bowl, but when this posts, this will be after.

01:39:36.200 So we'll have to say, these are our predictions.

01:39:38.360 We don't know if they came true, but you know, although, will that be weird?

01:39:45.120 Find out the line.

01:39:47.100 The what?

01:39:47.500 The line.

01:39:47.840 The line.

01:39:47.900 I'm the same way.

01:40:00.800 I've, I had like.

01:40:01.620 What does that even mean?

01:40:18.520 I've never, I've never been able to figure out that whole, the way that that works.

01:40:22.400 Chiefs are getting a point.

01:40:23.480 They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're

01:40:27.260 Okay.

01:40:27.740 So plus one is.

01:40:29.480 They're getting a point.

01:40:30.220 Okay.

01:40:31.560 Minus one is you're giving a point.

01:40:33.080 Okay.

01:40:33.820 The overrunner's getting 2.5.

01:40:36.020 I mean, dude.

01:40:38.080 Kansas City's defense is not good.

01:40:40.620 Yeah.

01:40:41.860 They can get run all over.

01:40:42.900 Score.

01:40:43.200 They keep Patrick Mahomes off the field and they run.

01:40:47.880 Could be a long night for the Chiefs.

01:40:51.860 So, okay.

01:40:52.840 So I, I was going to just wrap it up by saying, here, I'll, yeah, I'll do.

01:40:58.720 All right, guys.

01:40:59.360 Well, just so you know, I, when I put out that call for questions, I got a ton of questions.

01:41:03.340 So at some point, we're going to probably have to do a whole episode of questions because

01:41:07.460 I think.

01:41:07.940 Let's just work them in like we did.

01:41:09.260 That was fun.

01:41:09.840 Okay.

01:41:10.280 Yeah, we could do that.

01:41:11.320 But do we get any more?

01:41:12.460 Are we moving on?

01:41:12.960 What are we doing on time?

01:41:14.180 We're, we've, we've been going for a while.

01:41:16.180 I know you mentioned wanting to do.

01:41:17.820 About an hour 40.

01:41:18.560 Oh, okay.

01:41:19.020 Yeah.

01:41:19.380 I know you mentioned wanting to do some predictions.

01:41:23.260 At the time of this, the posting of this episode, the Super Bowl will have already happened.

01:41:30.040 So your prediction is.

01:41:31.800 I'm going last, Mo.

01:41:33.000 Oh, you're going.

01:41:33.420 Okay.

01:41:33.660 Well, I'm going to say, I'm going to say that the Chiefs, and I don't like to bet on the

01:41:39.180 Chiefs.

01:41:39.520 I have to say, I've been very cynical with the fact that they won the AFC Championship.

01:41:42.940 It was just a miracle to me.

01:41:45.160 Because I always say.

01:41:46.040 What the fuck have you been watching all year, bro?

01:41:47.500 Well, yeah.

01:41:48.100 But I, yeah.

01:41:48.620 But there were years that, there were years that the Chiefs were really good.

01:41:51.700 Dude, you can't judge somebody on their last year's performance.

01:41:54.460 I know.

01:41:54.600 The year before.

01:41:55.220 Hey, listen.

01:41:55.720 I'm glad I was wrong.

01:41:56.980 I was glad I was wrong.

01:41:58.080 But I am going to bet on the Chiefs, and I'm going to say that they're going to win 27-24.

01:42:03.520 27-24.

01:42:07.520 Okay.

01:42:08.780 I think the 49ers are a better football team.

01:42:11.800 I do.

01:42:12.180 They're a better defensive football team.

01:42:16.180 I think if Richard Sherman can play lockdown corner, which he's capable of doing, I think

01:42:20.900 it dismantles the ability for Patrick Mahomes to do what he does best, which is stretch the

01:42:26.820 over-the-top and dump to Kelsey.

01:42:28.280 Um, fuck, man.

01:42:32.620 But I have to say, being in Chiefs Nation now, like part of the deal, like my heart's got

01:42:37.400 to go with the Chiefs.

01:42:38.500 I mean, I just want them to win because I think it's, that place is Kansas City, the Kansas

01:42:42.840 City tailgate, the Kansas City fans.

01:42:44.640 It's fucking, dude, it's real America.

01:42:46.600 This is, I was telling somebody this the other day.

01:42:49.420 You know what I love about Kansas City Chiefs is when you go to the tailgate, it's white,

01:42:53.200 it's black, it's, it's, it's.

01:42:55.520 Mexicans.

01:42:55.960 It's fucking.

01:42:56.720 It's fucking fandom.

01:42:58.020 Right.

01:42:58.200 You know what I mean?

01:42:58.640 And it's drinking beer and barbecue and no one gives a fuck.

01:43:01.920 Nobody gives a fuck.

01:43:03.000 They give a fuck about the Chiefs and they fly the flag high and you're walking through

01:43:06.280 the tailgates, man.

01:43:07.360 And like, to me, that's, that's what fucking life's about.

01:43:11.300 That's what sports about.

01:43:12.140 That's what America's about.

01:43:13.480 It's supposed to be.

01:43:14.760 And so I'm going to say, what did you say?

01:43:17.700 I said 27, 24 Chiefs.

01:43:20.540 That's a pretty good fucking predictor there, Vaughn.

01:43:22.560 27, 24 Chiefs.

01:43:23.820 I'm going to say it's going to be higher than that.

01:43:25.560 I'm going to say 35, 31 Chiefs.

01:43:27.680 Okay.

01:43:27.940 I'm going to say they can't keep, they can't keep fucking Tyreek Hill down.

01:43:31.780 All right.

01:43:32.040 35, 31 Chiefs.

01:43:33.440 Okay.

01:43:34.060 By the way.

01:43:34.640 And I'll take the over.

01:43:35.680 Before Andy shares his prediction.

01:43:38.780 Oh, we got Tyler got to go too.

01:43:39.800 Oh, Tyler's got to do it too.

01:43:40.900 See, Tyler's going to jump in and say Tom Brady's going to win the Super Bowl.

01:43:42.900 I am going with my former Patriot.

01:43:44.180 No, no, no, no.

01:43:44.620 It is an option.

01:43:46.960 I did want to say something I found very intriguing when the Rams got sold and moved back to Los

01:43:52.640 Angeles.

01:43:53.180 There were a number of people here in St. Louis who said, you know what?

01:43:57.040 I've always wanted to root for the Chiefs.

01:43:58.980 I'm one of those people.

01:43:59.600 Now, now I can root for the Chiefs because I always felt bad rooting for the Chiefs because

01:44:04.060 the Rams were here.

01:44:04.760 But now that the Rams are gone, I can justify rooting for the Chiefs.

01:44:07.160 I was one of those people too.

01:44:07.460 Yeah.

01:44:07.600 I've always just liked the Chiefs.

01:44:08.660 You know what?

01:44:09.260 I didn't like the Chiefs.

01:44:10.800 When I was living in Springfield, Missouri, I didn't like the Chiefs because for some reason,

01:44:14.840 the Chiefs fans in Springfield were always just dicks.

01:44:17.800 Kind of like Cubs fans.

01:44:19.020 They acted like Cubs fans.

01:44:20.600 And if you're in Springfield and you're a Chiefs fan, be a real fucking fan.

01:44:24.380 Don't be a dick.

01:44:25.080 Moral of the story, don't be a dick.

01:44:27.140 Were they the kind of people like when their team lost, they just said, well.

01:44:30.080 No, dude.

01:44:30.660 Like they were just, when they lost, it was like, you know.

01:44:33.560 Well, they were terrible then too.

01:44:34.900 No, they were always, I don't know.

01:44:36.540 They're always like a 500 football team.

01:44:38.160 I don't know.

01:44:38.620 Maybe it's just the fact that I wasn't a Chiefs fan.

01:44:43.820 I was a little bit jealous that I wasn't.

01:44:46.060 I don't know.

01:44:46.980 Possible.

01:44:47.320 But I like them now.

01:44:49.620 It is what it is.

01:44:50.900 I will say I did go to a Chiefs game in early 2000s when they play the Raiders and I wore

01:44:55.940 Raiders shit.

01:44:57.000 Okay.

01:44:57.580 And that was funny.

01:44:58.740 They were cool too.

01:44:59.640 The fans at the stadium, I thought they were going to fucking be total assholes.

01:45:04.200 It was fun shit talking.

01:45:06.420 There was nobody over the line.

01:45:08.160 And I really like, I really do like the culture of that team.

01:45:13.200 It's just, they're good people, man.

01:45:14.800 And if you're one of those people in Springfield, you know, be nice.

01:45:21.460 Anyway, what's your prediction, bro?

01:45:24.700 Tom Brady.

01:45:25.700 I figure that's what it is.

01:45:26.780 Before you go, though, I want to, dude, Patrick Mahomes, this goes back to the-

01:45:30.440 Bro, I got it broke down.

01:45:31.740 Dude, he's a fucking stud, man.

01:45:35.080 The guy's good looking.

01:45:36.580 He's nice.

01:45:37.260 He's charismatic.

01:45:38.400 All the things you're talking about earlier.

01:45:40.340 He can run it.

01:45:41.080 He can throw it.

01:45:42.300 Dude, he's the comeback kid.

01:45:44.740 No fear.

01:45:45.680 Got balls of steel.

01:45:46.640 Well, I think he'll pull it off.

01:45:50.600 I don't think there's any question.

01:45:52.420 I don't think there's any question they're going to win.

01:45:55.300 I think they're going to win by a lot.

01:45:57.240 You think so?

01:45:57.800 I think they're going to, I think San Francisco's score will be 24-ish.

01:46:03.040 And I think the Chiefs score will be 42-ish.

01:46:06.180 You think it's just time?

01:46:07.780 No.

01:46:08.100 No.

01:46:08.260 That they're due?

01:46:09.360 Fuck no.

01:46:09.820 Well, yeah, I do think that.

01:46:11.040 But that's not why I think that.

01:46:12.200 I'm a strategic thinker.

01:46:13.640 You said about Sherman, well, dude, the Chiefs have a lot more weapons

01:46:16.920 than just fucking Tyreek Hill, okay?

01:46:19.640 And if they can open up the offense and create space,

01:46:23.460 Mahomes is too dangerous.

01:46:25.160 They can't stop it.

01:46:26.200 So the minute they start covering the over the top,

01:46:29.600 it's going to create space.

01:46:30.760 He's going to make plays on his feet.

01:46:32.360 They're going to have to come up and watch the box.

01:46:34.240 It's going to open up the top.

01:46:36.240 They're going to, dude, they're too dynamic.

01:46:38.200 They're too fucking fast.

01:46:39.540 They're too athletic.

01:46:40.520 And as long as they play the games that they've been playing

01:46:43.880 and come out, you know, because, like, dude,

01:46:46.700 they got a scare in the NFC Championship game.

01:46:48.700 I mean, that was fucking scary.

01:46:49.780 I was there.

01:46:50.300 Yeah.

01:46:51.380 It was awesome.

01:46:52.200 But, dude, I'm just saying, like, if they come out hungry

01:46:55.160 and Andy Reid has them ready to play,

01:46:57.940 there's no fucking way San Francisco could beat them.

01:47:01.220 There's no way.

01:47:01.920 Going with San Francisco.

01:47:03.260 Yeah, okay.

01:47:03.900 31-24.

01:47:05.480 Well, I mean, dude, that San Francisco defense is tough.

01:47:06.920 That's not your fucking prediction because you just waited to see what I –

01:47:10.240 I asked you first and couldn't think for yourself.

01:47:11.920 You interrupted me.

01:47:13.100 No.

01:47:13.540 I said Tom Brady, but I was going with my –

01:47:15.660 the guy who was trained by Tom Brady.

01:47:18.760 Dude, that guy – I'll tell you what.

01:47:20.680 That guy has – I guarantee has no problems getting laid.

01:47:23.880 That is one good-looking dude.

01:47:25.160 Who's that?

01:47:25.980 Don't bring your girl around him.

01:47:27.460 Garoppolo.

01:47:28.060 Whatever his name is.

01:47:29.020 I don't know, but some bitch is good.

01:47:30.940 You go in that dude's comments on IG, and it's like, fuck.

01:47:34.040 He's – dude, he's got to be a slinger, man.

01:47:37.180 What'd you leave on his page?

01:47:39.440 Go on his comments.

01:47:41.300 This is the battle of the two best-looking quarterbacks.

01:47:44.220 Them dudes – neither one of them dudes are struggling.

01:47:46.380 They're fucking pimps.

01:47:47.180 Yeah.

01:47:47.480 But, dude, here's what I'll say.

01:47:48.900 Like, I for real – and I'm not saying this because I'm a fan.

01:47:51.440 I am a fan, but I'm – this has been the constant theme of the show.

01:47:57.100 When I break down what I know about football, which I know a little bit.

01:48:01.260 I'm not a fucking professional sportscaster.

01:48:06.140 It's going to be really – to me, in my mind, I don't see how the fuck they're going to stop them.

01:48:09.620 Dude, it's going to be a great fucking game.

01:48:11.380 I mean –

01:48:11.760 Maybe.

01:48:12.280 San Francisco is a better, well-rounded team.

01:48:15.740 Better?

01:48:16.120 What's better?

01:48:17.440 They're a more solid team, meaning they play a better defense.

01:48:20.080 They have a better offensive set.

01:48:21.800 The top-line talent of the Chiefs – it's like the 99 Rams.

01:48:25.660 The Chiefs' defense is not fucking good.

01:48:28.740 Their offense is going to have to outscore them.

01:48:30.340 I'm not taking the over.

01:48:31.900 This will be really interesting for everybody listening to this, knowing that it's after the –

01:48:36.720 They're going to be like, you guys suck at predicting.

01:48:38.740 Watch it be like 14-10.

01:48:40.200 Dude, but that's how Super Bowls usually go, right?

01:48:42.260 Like, totally – so fucking unpredictable, man.

01:48:45.500 Look, I'm sticking with my fucking story.

01:48:48.360 It's going to be a 20-point difference plus.

01:48:50.080 Well, nice.

01:48:51.880 One of us will be correct.

01:48:53.060 I think it's going to be 20s.

01:48:55.700 The fucking Niners will be in the 20s, and Chiefs will be in the 40s or 50s.

01:48:59.640 That's what I think.

01:49:01.580 So, anyway.

01:49:02.540 I'm excited to drink a beer and fucking watch it.

01:49:04.280 I can tell you that.

01:49:04.760 I'm excited to drink a beer and watch it.

01:49:07.380 All right, Tyler, wrap us up with –

01:49:07.920 I'm excited to drink a beer and watch this fucking Netflix show that you talked about for two and a half hours a day.

01:49:11.800 The final segment.

01:49:12.720 That's good, man.

01:49:13.600 What is the final segment?

01:49:14.420 You'll binge watch it for sure.

01:49:15.960 Oh, well, it's Dumbest Motherfucker in All the Land.

01:49:17.780 Oh, dude, my favorite part of the show.

01:49:20.600 Yeah, so you guys have probably heard of the Penis Man, right?

01:49:24.360 Dave.

01:49:25.180 Dave.

01:49:25.740 The Penis Man.

01:49:27.060 He was recently arrested out in Arizona.

01:49:29.660 The Penis Man.

01:49:30.220 The Penis Man.

01:49:31.120 Yeah, so SWAT recently kicked in his apartment door and arrested him for vandalizing, you know, universities and public areas by writing the words Penis Man all over.

01:49:44.040 And upon getting arrested, he actually said he's a copycat.

01:49:48.520 He's not the original Penis Man.

01:49:50.260 He's like, Penis Man is not a guy or a girl.

01:49:53.060 We are all Penis Man.

01:49:54.300 Penis Man is a movement.

01:49:56.420 It's a cult.

01:49:58.580 He is the leader, Vaughn.

01:50:00.220 That's the movement you can join.

01:50:01.760 You know what?

01:50:02.380 Those guys are nuts.

01:50:03.900 Those Penis Man guys?

01:50:07.080 I got you, Vaughn.

01:50:09.160 Dude, you know what?

01:50:09.920 That was so daddish.

01:50:10.920 It kind of went over my head for a minute.

01:50:12.300 Andy, what's a word you would write?

01:50:13.520 If you had to start this kind of movement writing graffiti, what's the crude words you would put up on there?

01:50:19.240 Does it have to be crude?

01:50:20.240 I know it would be just because I know you.

01:50:21.660 No, dude, I'd be writing I am first form everywhere.

01:50:23.560 Nice.

01:50:24.100 I like it.

01:50:25.100 Okay.

01:50:25.620 Vandalism associated with first form?

01:50:26.940 No.

01:50:27.260 Yeah, well.

01:50:27.840 We're going to have a huge graffiti wall on the back of the new gym.

01:50:30.200 And it's going to say I am first.

01:50:31.300 All right, all right.

01:50:31.860 At 200 feet long.

01:50:32.840 For real, what would I say?

01:50:33.600 Yes.

01:50:38.080 It has to be vulgar?

01:50:39.760 I'm just saying I assumed that it was going to be vulgar.

01:50:42.800 Why would you assume that?

01:50:43.920 Because of his nature.

01:50:44.600 You judged him.

01:50:45.380 Yes.

01:50:46.400 I'm not God.

01:50:47.100 I certainly wouldn't fucking write Penis Man.

01:50:50.840 Okay?

01:50:51.300 I'm just playing along.

01:50:52.440 So you write Ass Man.

01:50:54.240 Ass Man.

01:50:54.740 Dude, Howard Stern's already an Ass Man.

01:50:58.240 I think he's a character.

01:50:59.200 He's got a character called Ass Man.

01:51:00.020 I think that was in Seinfeld way back in the day.

01:51:02.860 There was a whole episode about that.

01:51:04.300 I am an Ass Man, so I can be a part of that.

01:51:06.840 You can join the movement?

01:51:08.140 Yeah.

01:51:08.520 I mean...

01:51:09.260 Hey, look, dude.

01:51:09.940 You guys are losing steam here because you're being pussies.

01:51:12.980 What the fuck would you write?

01:51:13.780 Just being a good Christian.

01:51:15.260 Oh.

01:51:15.540 They didn't ask me.

01:51:16.320 They asked you.

01:51:16.880 Ladies and gentlemen, if you're not subscribed to the Andygram.

01:51:23.540 In all seriousness, those who are not subscribed to Andy's blog should subscribe.

01:51:28.360 I believe it's just andyfricella.com forward slash sign up, I think.

01:51:32.580 Or it might be subscribe.

01:51:33.520 I guess I should know that, but I just don't.

01:51:35.640 Does anybody in this room know that?

01:51:37.760 What?

01:51:38.060 Do you know it?

01:51:38.500 How do you sign up for your Andygram?

01:51:41.720 You just go to it.

01:51:42.320 Go to the Andygram on the website.

01:51:44.380 Click on it, and it'll ask me.

01:51:46.180 Yeah, you just go to it.

01:51:47.520 Good deal.

01:51:48.160 It's cool, though.

01:51:48.780 I'm putting out a daily blog every single day.

01:51:51.100 You are.

01:51:51.320 It's two to three minutes, four minutes read.

01:51:53.540 It's just a little bit of a tip to get your day started off in the right way.

01:51:58.600 It comes in the morning.

01:51:59.320 You get to look at it.

01:52:00.160 Just a tip?

01:52:00.900 Yeah, just a tip.

01:52:01.860 And it gets you going off on the right direction.

01:52:04.660 By the end of the day, you'll be a professional ass eater.

01:52:06.900 You're fun.

01:52:08.400 Oh, my.

01:52:09.900 All right, final word, Sal.

01:52:12.320 I actually have a course coming out.

01:52:13.900 I'm just saying.

01:52:15.940 For $999, right?

01:52:17.700 That's right.

01:52:18.080 $999.

01:52:18.560 That's too much.

01:52:19.740 No, it was $14,000, but I discounted it today only to $997.

01:52:26.240 Well, we established early on, though, that $900 was too much for the foot fetish.

01:52:29.300 That's true.

01:52:29.620 Yeah, but not for the ass fetish.

01:52:30.620 Not for the ass fetish.

01:52:31.480 The extra $90 is worth it.

01:52:33.000 No, I mean, lesson for the day is don't worry about how much talent you have.

01:52:39.660 Worry about maximizing that talent.

01:52:42.180 And I think if Kobe Bryant taught us anything is you don't have to be the biggest.

01:52:45.100 You don't have to be the tallest.

01:52:45.860 You don't have to be the strongest.

01:52:46.640 You don't have to be the fastest.

01:52:47.580 You just have to be aware enough of what your weaknesses are and be able to correct those

01:52:53.640 through action and work.

01:52:55.480 And if you can correct your weaknesses, you can live the life that you want to live.

01:52:58.560 You can be remembered for the things that you want to be remembered for, but it comes

01:53:01.820 with a fucking price that needs to be paid.

01:53:04.360 I think that's great advice, but my takeaway is something completely different.

01:53:09.680 My takeaway is this.

01:53:11.500 Don't be a turd, man.

01:53:13.300 Like, realize your own imperfections and try not to jump on people who do wrong and instead

01:53:20.060 stop and think, why do I feel this way?

01:53:22.560 Did this person actually do these things?

01:53:24.940 Did they not do these things?

01:53:26.040 Do they stand for these things?

01:53:27.180 Do they not?

01:53:27.680 Am I receiving the truth?

01:53:30.280 Is my perception the truth or is it my own bias?

01:53:33.400 I think a lot of problems in the world could be solved by a little bit of self-examination

01:53:38.380 and a little bit of fucking humor, okay?

01:53:40.980 We're not supposed to be perfect humans.

01:53:43.200 We're not supposed to be perfect in every single way.

01:53:47.220 We are perfect.

01:53:48.860 We are perfect.

01:53:50.200 And that requires us to understand that comes with the flaws that we have as well.

01:53:55.060 And so when you do wrong or other people do wrong, own it and extend people the same

01:54:00.760 courtesy that you wish you would have if you were the person that you're trying to jump

01:54:05.100 on that bandwagon to destroy.

01:54:07.040 I think the world would be a lot better place if people would just take a minute, stop and

01:54:13.080 think.

01:54:14.100 When you said, Vaughn, earlier, you said about throwing the stones in the glass house thing.

01:54:22.120 What was the quote you said about the judge?

01:54:24.380 What was the quote?

01:54:24.940 Let he who is sinless cast the first stone.

01:54:27.500 That's right.

01:54:28.300 And so remember that when you fucking cast your stones at people, that people are going

01:54:34.860 to cast their stones at you at some point in time.

01:54:37.440 So when you jump on the latest trend to villainize someone or destroy someone or hurt someone because

01:54:43.300 you think they did wrong, realize that your time is going to come with that.

01:54:46.940 And for every fucking instance that you do that, you're going to get that back.

01:54:50.840 I believe that.

01:54:52.220 This is why I don't talk shit.

01:54:53.580 I want to talk shit.

01:54:56.240 I want to expose a lot of the people out there and say all these things that I personally

01:55:01.460 think.

01:55:01.800 But the truth of the matter is, I don't actually know.

01:55:04.920 I don't know.

01:55:06.220 That's the truth.

01:55:07.480 So before you open your mouth and you throw some rocks and you try to hurt people, remember,

01:55:13.840 they're going to fucking hurt you back if you do.

01:55:16.040 Not them.

01:55:16.840 Someone else will.

01:55:18.300 Well said.

01:55:19.040 Thanks, guys.

01:55:19.840 And guys, thanks for...

01:55:21.080 What's your final thought?

01:55:21.960 Oh, my final thought?

01:55:23.580 Well, you surprised me.

01:55:26.580 I wasn't ready for a final thought.

01:55:27.920 People want to hear what the Jean-Claude Van Damme has to say.

01:55:32.100 You know what?

01:55:32.840 I just go back to what we said earlier with the issue of forgiveness.

01:55:37.860 I think that people who have a really healthy sense that they themselves have received a lot of really good things in life that they don't deserve.

01:55:47.260 They've received a lot of breaks that they didn't earn.

01:55:50.040 I'm one of those people.

01:55:52.300 I've done things that I should have suffered the consequences for, but God in His grace and mercy said,

01:55:58.400 No, I'm going to kind of protect him from this a little bit, and I'm going to give him something he didn't deserve.

01:56:02.900 And my life has been so absolutely full of things, good things, that I just, you know, literally if I stopped getting good things from now to the rest of my life, I would still have tons of reasons to express my thanks and my gratitude to God.

01:56:17.780 So, because He has acted that way toward me, I just, I feel like I'm bound, I'm obligated to try to extend that grace and that mercy to other people.

01:56:28.680 I think that's great, man.

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REAL AF with Andy Frisella - February 28, 2020

8. What Made People Like Kobe Bryant, Jesus Christ, or Adolf Hitler Some of the Most Influential People In History？

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