REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 901. Championship Mindset Ft. Ryan Hardwick： 24h Le Mans Winner

00:00:00.000 what is up guys it's andy frisella and this is the show for the realists say goodbye to the lies

00:00:21.240 the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys

00:00:25.680 today we are doing something different we are going to actually have a full-length episode

00:00:32.160 today which we haven't had in a long time but i can promise you this is one you are going to want

00:00:37.040 to listen to all the way through so uh with the amount of negativity and stuff going on in the

00:00:44.260 world and crazy shit we thought we'd uh take an opportunity to give us a little breath from that

00:00:49.740 and uh and do a full length and so that's what we're going to do uh but before we get to that

00:00:55.680 i'm liking your new hat there bro oh thanks man i had a uh a friend gave this to me yeah it looks

00:01:00.680 like you got extra brains is that what that is yeah is that what you're doing you're trying to

00:01:04.500 look smarter it expands in there yeah gotta fill up the hat it's all up in there yeah looks good

00:01:09.220 what's the sticker for there who gave you the hat yeah a special uh special friend gave me this hat

00:01:17.640 and um he's actually uh our guest today on the show we got ryan hartwick yeah what's up dude thanks

00:01:23.800 man yeah it's going good ryan what's going on man man uh uh a lot actually yeah a little bit to talk

00:01:30.460 about yeah so uh yeah man dude we've been talking about this for years um for those of you that don't

00:01:39.220 know uh ryan is one of my best friends in the world uh he's also a business partner of mine

00:01:45.900 we're partners in the race team um fuck dude we've been friends for a long time now yeah how

00:01:53.220 long have you guys been knowing each other uh 10 plus years yeah i want to say it was around 2015

00:01:57.780 yeah around we had uh you know met really through cars yeah the car community yep yeah mutual friends

00:02:03.880 like hey man you you know you know my friend andy and i just i'd found you online you know i was

00:02:08.460 following you these were facebook days i guess yeah but uh yeah i'm like i know of them you know it's

00:02:14.300 like oh why is a friend you guys should meet you guys are both into cars and yeah yeah so yeah going

00:02:19.300 on 10 years i guess yeah yeah and then uh i came down yeah i asked you to come yeah you guys had me

00:02:25.980 come down yeah and i met you and dustin and justin justin yeah and then uh yeah had you speak to all

00:02:32.500 our sales people yeah yeah it was yeah man that was probably 20 what 16 17 maybe yeah it was fun i

00:02:39.000 think i was just down there for the day yeah yeah he came down quick yeah we we asked you where

00:02:43.760 where i'm in the motorcycle business my you know right so for those of you who don't know just

00:02:48.920 real quick yeah yeah ryan is going to be humble but uh ryan and justin uh and the guy they own

00:02:57.040 what is i think it's fair to say one of the largest if not the largest motorsports dealerships

00:03:03.540 in the whole country one of the biggest in the world yeah yeah we're in the top three yeah in the

00:03:08.260 world yeah yeah so how many locations you guys have i have 12 12 and these are not like little uh

00:03:15.820 you know they got a few motorcycles these are like motorcycle atv four-wheeler super stores uh and

00:03:23.720 you guys have every brand don't you yeah for the most part and i mean there's a couple small brands

00:03:27.800 but you know all the uh you know japanese motorcycle brands yeah honda yamaha the american brands like

00:03:33.380 polaris um ducati european brands so yeah they're um yeah it's a business that we justin and i grew

00:03:40.880 up now you guys started to say exact the cool thing about ryan and justin is they started like

00:03:45.280 exactly when chris and i started yeah yeah with 99 yeah we're about the same age yeah yeah about the

00:03:51.140 same age we don't have to say what that is but yeah that's right just keep it general yeah yeah no

00:03:55.860 yeah we that's where we kind of hit it off you and i had a lot of similarities you know and

00:03:59.940 you know business and probably i think we both started you know probably two i know me for one

00:04:04.620 i had no idea what i was doing you know just you know we were you know going after it as fast as we

00:04:08.920 could and learning a lot but uh making a lot of mistakes but um yeah we started in the same years

00:04:14.160 and uh then as the businesses grew you know kind of our businesses were you know close in size you

00:04:19.440 know wise for its number of employees and things like that so we had a lot of common ground and stuff

00:04:23.500 to you know we could share and learn from each other it's nice knowing that there's someone else out

00:04:27.620 there having a lot of the same struggles yeah dude that you're having let's get their ass kicked

00:04:32.060 the exact same way yeah you got hitting the ball yeah dude a lot of times it's like they come in

00:04:39.160 waves it's like the same day yeah yeah you know yeah you too yeah yeah oh dude how old were you there

00:04:45.720 that stood right there jeez man i went to the closet i went to the closet i went to the closet

00:04:49.660 for that one i'm like damn all right yeah yes that was business right i like that linkedin picture

00:04:57.440 so dude what was it like you know before we get into the i mean obviously most of the listeners here

00:05:07.300 are our success entrepreneurial minded i mean dude just talk about that you know uh they've all heard

00:05:13.880 my story but i mean dude you guys have an incredible story yeah i mean we uh like i said we

00:05:19.340 justin and i grew up together we were riding dirt bikes uh all our lives my father taught us to ride

00:05:25.700 and so it was our passion and we kind of uh stumbled into the ability to uh submit an application to one

00:05:32.580 of the manufacturers to to open a dealership and we were gosh we were 19 years old when we sent this

00:05:37.760 application in and um you know i spent a lot of time working on it about how passionate we were about

00:05:43.460 the sport and uh it was with american honda and honda you know sent us back responded said hey

00:05:49.760 man we really like your applications got a lot of passion behind it you got a lot of really cool

00:05:53.540 ideas but uh you have no funding and you have no experience you know two important things to start

00:05:58.620 a business and uh so you know you know again we we knew no other way than to go and try to solve

00:06:05.920 those two things we were told no you know from so we went out and tried to you know borrow money

00:06:10.380 from others and uh and then we went to go find a partner that had experience in in running a

00:06:16.180 motorcycle dealership and we were uh we worked for gosh a couple years uh to find both of those things

00:06:22.620 so uh yeah man back in the late 90s early 2000s you could you could borrow a lot more uh with a lot

00:06:28.320 less than what you can now so i will say the environment was was ripe at that time kind of dot com

00:06:34.480 you know kind of turn of area to to really for a bank to loan a lot of money to two kids yeah that

00:06:40.820 had we had one other partner that uh he had a yamaha kawasaki dealership you know uh near our town and

00:06:47.260 we talked him into partnering with us and uh that was probably my first you know really good sales job

00:06:52.940 trying to you know talk this uh this uh really smart you know entrepreneur into partnering with two

00:06:58.740 young kids and and that's how we got our start with a single line honda store and we opened in 2000

00:07:05.020 um and fast forward you know now it's 25 years you know we're uh the third largest retailer of

00:07:12.140 motorcycles in in the world um and uh you know we sell thousands of vehicles a year and um we have

00:07:19.340 you know gosh now a little over 300 getting close to 350 employees and um so uh it's been a wild

00:07:28.120 wild fun ride and and we there was there was plenty of times in there when man you know very

00:07:35.280 similar to your sort of what we talked about you know wanting to quit wanting like man you know are

00:07:39.340 we really cut out for this do we really know what we're doing and you know competitors that were much

00:07:43.820 bigger but um yeah that and that's why i kind of i was drawn to racing at a at a young age and

00:07:49.660 racing's got a lot of similarities with business and that you know you're constantly surrounded by

00:07:55.200 chaos in racing um and business is much the same way you know there's there's things happening to

00:08:00.860 you and around you that you can't control and you're constantly adapting and evolving and changing

00:08:06.120 and so um that i think i think that's why i've really enjoyed you know racing throughout my whole

00:08:11.180 life as well as business i mean obviously we're all competitors you know you're not competitive you

00:08:16.500 have no you have no business being in business yeah do something else yeah do something else if you're

00:08:22.200 not competitive so uh yeah out of uh entrepreneurship and racing just kind of you know went hand in

00:08:27.320 hand you know i mean i've been fortunate to be able to kind of do both um you know i feel like at a

00:08:33.400 you know decently high level you know kind of at the same time decently high level fucking

00:08:37.780 yeah he fucking wins le mans one wins le mans wins uh 24 hour the rolex 24 hour daytona

00:08:45.040 sebring yeah like stop it yeah i'll toot the fucking horn for you yeah i do i want to ask you this

00:08:51.080 all right i'm being i've asked you want to ask him or you want to ask i want to ask i don't know

00:08:55.200 what you said i can't hear you axe yeah all right go hey there you go all right all right i've asked

00:09:01.400 andy this a few times but i mean 25 years and i'm not trying to date you at all right but 25 years

00:09:07.380 that's a long time does it feel like 25 years to you like when you look back first store in 2000

00:09:12.420 everything you've i mean did it go quick i would say now it it feels like it went quick there there

00:09:18.300 were times i can really say about 10 years in that it felt i remember looking back at 10 years

00:09:23.880 and thinking man i've been at this a while with at that time not as much growth as what you know my

00:09:30.920 partner justin and i wanted you know and um that was coming out of the big financial crisis disaster

00:09:36.680 0809 i remember around 2010 thinking man we've been doing a lot of work for what at that time was a

00:09:43.580 long time to us with without you know that level of success and growth that you know we kind of

00:09:49.380 thought we would be at 10 years in and um now 25 years looking back it seemed to all go by pretty

00:09:55.720 pretty quick i remember those first days like it was yesterday right but uh there were times along

00:10:00.520 the way that yeah man it felt it felt just grinding yeah grinding yeah i think it just depends on when

00:10:05.760 you ask yeah you know for real dude like i i i think it's the same for us you know when when we were

00:10:12.380 10 years in dude i was looking we almost quit at 10 years in chris and i a lot of you guys know that

00:10:16.380 story um it was i think the point about this is that entrepreneurship really like recalibrates your

00:10:28.380 sense of what a lot of time is compared to what you thought it was before you started down the

00:10:33.720 journey you know a lot of people hear 10 years and they think oh man that's forever a long time but

00:10:39.780 then when you're when you're you know 25 26 years in you look at 10 years and you're like man i've

00:10:46.860 known you for 10 years yeah like that does that feels like it was yesterday yeah and um i don't

00:10:53.420 know if it's the reward that comes with it but i will i do echo that like when i was 10 years in

00:10:59.500 i was like fuck what are we doing like we're wasting our lives yeah and then now i look around and i'm

00:11:06.540 like well this was fucking worth it you know like like it it it's just i don't know i think people

00:11:12.340 misjudge the the amount of time that it actually takes yeah i think it's easy i mean i know i know

00:11:18.200 you've said it for you know forever in that you know it's a problem with a lot of our you know uh

00:11:23.660 younger people you know but guys coming up through the ranks right now whether it's you're starting

00:11:28.160 your own business or you're working within an organization it's i mean 10 years is i mean it's it's

00:11:33.500 not a short amount of time but it's super easy to get frustrated around that time thinking like man

00:11:38.300 i've done the work i've put i'm listening to andy i'm doing you know i'm doing the things but

00:11:42.200 it's still it takes more time than that right and you know it it the analogy of driving a race car i

00:11:51.260 mean yeah that's like i get a lot of questions like man ryan you you know one of these big races 24

00:11:57.500 hours a mile like that the amount of time i just tell you in racing the amount of cars i've crashed

00:12:02.380 okay like properly crashed yeah full sin yeah not not not bent yeah not like like like throw it

00:12:12.520 away crashed right you know lit on fire um it it you have to crash the car i mean there's no way if

00:12:19.360 you want to develop the skill we'll use a racing car for an example to drive a race car like on the

00:12:25.520 limit we've just said to find if you're going to drive on the limit you got to first find where that

00:12:30.920 limit is and in order to find it you have to go over it you know this is part of it and in business

00:12:36.640 is no different man you gotta it takes a long period of time of of crashing of making mistakes

00:12:42.460 right you know and having that ability to get back up and say like i'm going to keep going i'm

00:12:46.320 going to take i'm going to learn why did i crash what happened there was a reason whether it's physics

00:12:51.700 stupidity someone else's fault in another car whatever whatever it is you know thinking you

00:12:58.340 could do something the car couldn't do whatever it is you got to learn from that and then you got

00:13:02.420 to be able to apply it you know really quickly uh you know again and again and again you know and so

00:13:07.440 um there's so many there's so many i think it's why you were first right like when i you know when i

00:13:12.680 was starting out in it you know first couple years i brought it to you i'm like hey andy maybe this

00:13:17.000 would make sense if first form was involved and i'm doing this racing at this level and uh you know

00:13:21.560 obviously you're a car guy yeah car guy we like cars but there there's just something about

00:13:26.100 racing and i don't care if it's racing a you know a motorcycle a foot race a car race i mean what

00:13:32.120 of this competition you're you versus the next person you know right next to you thinking you

00:13:38.180 know i'm better than you i'm going to get there quicker than you better than you i don't know there's

00:13:41.940 there's just some it's like the purest essence of competition to me right you know and then there's so

00:13:46.920 much you know connection to business and you know i think i guess i know it's what drove me into it

00:13:52.320 yeah i mean i think it's a hundred percent parallel i mean i think we just talked about it on yesterday's

00:13:58.840 show but it's confusing how people could be competitive in other areas but then not understand

00:14:03.920 it in the business aspect you know i just think a lot of people don't really understand the rules

00:14:08.760 of business because they're so parallel to any sort of competition you know team sports or

00:14:15.600 individual sports but yeah dude uh you know one of the things that

00:14:21.800 people i don't know people know but i mean you were you were very very high level water sports

00:14:31.160 racer yeah okay not swimming but like yeah yeah no so like the stand-up jet skis right yeah yeah jet ski

00:14:40.980 yeah yeah yeah jet ski i my all my like teenage years i was racing jet skis and um uh all around

00:14:47.560 the world and that was an awesome sport i mean still uh i have a lot of friends in that sport it's

00:14:52.040 kind of what helped really get me you know cemented into the the motorsport business and met a lot of

00:14:57.780 the you know manufacturers and the marketing people and stuff but that's uh that was a fun sport i got

00:15:03.380 to travel a lot around the country and the world doing that and uh yeah that's i i'm for sure i do

00:15:09.460 think i'm definitely the only person uh that's won the 24 hours of lamar and also a jet ski world

00:15:15.180 championship so i think i think i have that one that's pretty cool i think i'm the only one on

00:15:21.220 that one you know but uh um yeah that was a fun sport i mean that's where i kind of learned you know

00:15:26.140 that cut my teeth but i'll tell you one big difference like coming from motorcycles and jet skis

00:15:31.060 i would say those are much more individual you know racing type things it's kind it's really about the

00:15:37.480 the rider and and the bike or the jet ski or car racing i think is even much more similar to like

00:15:44.300 a business and an organization it is for to me car racing is like the quintessential team sport the

00:15:50.000 only thing even close to me is like football football like if you know the center isn't doing

00:15:56.000 his job or the guard i don't care how good your quarterback and running back are right like it's it

00:16:01.420 is it has to be a team yeah one person has the ability to fuck the entire entire thing yeah car

00:16:07.240 racing like drivers get talked about all the time whether it's the nascar driver the indycar driver

00:16:12.420 or the formula one driver it all of those forms of car racing is a massive team sport i mean our team

00:16:18.620 the team that you know we won lamar with this year manti you know porsche uh we we have 62 people

00:16:26.200 within the team that are that are at the races all performing different roles you know from engineering

00:16:31.480 to mechanics the you know car you know is that per car that this is total over for the whole team

00:16:37.260 yeah so we we my car has a touch more 34 people uh the 60 students those running two cars so 34 people

00:16:44.540 on my car you know um and man if one person i mean one person doesn't pull their weight whether it's the

00:16:51.180 preparation of the car before it gets there the pit stop i mean like in the 24 hours of lamar we're

00:16:55.600 we're doing a pit stop roughly every hour um where we're changing tires filling it up with fuel

00:17:00.980 fixing anything that may be you know messed up you know it is a wild thing to see i had the

00:17:07.240 opportunity of coming down and watching you at the 24 hour daytona yep and like just the level of like

00:17:13.700 how zoned in everybody was like everybody on the crew was like i remember i got a uh one of your uh

00:17:19.880 one of the one the crew he was taking tires to go i guess like you guys recycle them right yeah i take

00:17:25.220 them to the tire station right yeah you get changed yeah to get changed out right that's

00:17:28.760 why i remember riding like he's like hey you want to roll i'm like heck yeah i want to go like this

00:17:32.060 would be cool i'm like what we're doing just dropping them off and we got uh we got there and

00:17:37.100 then we waited and then they loaded us back up and we just sat there i'm like what are you doing he's

00:17:41.960 like i got like 10 more seconds before i gotta go because i have to time it up with the net like

00:17:45.640 even being early puts the other guy but like it was it was a wild orchestra of just like

00:17:52.600 everybody's in sync man i'm just like dude that's crazy to even think about like you can't even you

00:17:57.200 don't even want to show up 10 seconds early because it's going to throw somebody else off

00:18:00.680 yeah you're in the way it's crazy yeah these guys like the our pit crews like these i think a lot of

00:18:06.600 people don't understand like how much of an athlete you have to be like these guys that are you know

00:18:11.480 doing the tire changes or you know the fuelers a lot of they're all most of them are athletes you

00:18:17.220 know from some other sport growing up whether it's football you know soccer baseball basketball

00:18:21.320 um man they're they train like unbelievably you know and every like movement is synchronized right

00:18:28.140 you know from where they place their knee their hands you know the tire placement and all this and

00:18:32.080 like at the 24 hour races these guys are doing this at you know three in the morning and four in the

00:18:36.680 morning and five in the morning and like the drivers sometimes when you know like there's three

00:18:40.540 drivers on our team you know for the 24 hour race so yeah i drive like two ish to three two to

00:18:46.740 three hours at a time and then i'm out of the car and i get to rest for you know four to six hours

00:18:52.200 right while my teammates are going these uh guys on the pit crew they don't get to rest i mean they

00:18:57.020 don't they don't have backup guys you know they're they're non-stop you know 24 hours so um it's just

00:19:02.280 like a well-ran organization that every single person within the organization knows their role

00:19:08.620 they're experts at their role they they you know we have authority as well within the race team

00:19:14.640 you know you have your superior that you're listening to and you report to and right and

00:19:18.440 and the best race teams have an unbelievable you know organizational culture they have an

00:19:24.200 unbelievable you know framework of who does what and you don't question that person next to you or

00:19:29.640 you're you know trying to get to that next level because you play that key role within the team

00:19:34.720 and maybe the next season you can apply for another position you know within the organization and train

00:19:39.640 for that but when we're at a race everyone knows their exact job their exact role their exact duty

00:19:44.340 and you know things run very smoothly you know with that there's other race teams where i've been a

00:19:49.700 part of that aren't ran so well just like businesses that aren't ran well and you can see it man you can

00:19:54.500 feel the culture when you walk in the garage you know of man is everyone not really wanting to be

00:19:59.600 here they don't like who they work for this is just a job they're taking because they they got turned

00:20:04.680 down from that other team and they're they you know they're really just trying to get to the next thing

00:20:09.300 versus like this team that i won with this year with porsche i mean this is they're they're highly

00:20:14.660 regarded as one of the best teams in the paddock and the reason why is every single person they love

00:20:20.800 what they do they love who they work for you as driver you know you want to as a driver you want to earn

00:20:26.620 their respect show all the pit crew that you respect what they do and it goes vice versa right i've seen

00:20:32.980 so many teams where no one respected each other you know the drivers didn't respect the crew members

00:20:38.560 the crew members didn't respect the driver and the whole thing and the results tend to match right

00:20:43.160 you know uh that effort so it's uh it's another great example of how culture you know in winning

00:20:49.340 organizations versus culture and losing organizations it's uh it's extremely it's extremely parallel yeah i

00:20:56.220 think a lot of people also misjudge how fit you have to be to be on one of these teams you know

00:21:07.560 like these guys who do the pit crew these guys train for that every i mean yeah every day yeah yeah every

00:21:14.340 day and by the way driving the car is not easy it is very very physically intensive i think a lot of

00:21:20.980 people think when they see a race on television they think it's like driving their car on the road

00:21:29.240 sort of fast yeah you know what i mean i won't lie i misjudged it before i got into it you know oh you

00:21:35.980 know i did i remember my first 10 laps in a race car yeah dude i went 10 laps in the in this uh

00:21:42.520 fucking the ferrari yeah and the ferrari challenge car i think it was yeah and uh first 10 laps i'd ever

00:21:50.500 have been in a race car and dude i got out of the car i had to lay on the fucking ground like i was

00:21:57.300 it was legit first of all you don't know how to breathe so you're like hold your breath hence the

00:22:03.240 whole time because you it's i mean dude you're driving it's it's just so different to suck you have to

00:22:11.140 like do it to understand how different it is even if you're a great driver on the road yeah it's just

00:22:17.140 a different thing like for example the braking the braking you know like when you when you go on

00:22:23.420 the road and you see a light you know coming up and it turns yellow you'll start to ease on the

00:22:28.740 brakes right and then eventually you'll come to a full stop racing is the complete opposite you're

00:22:34.200 trying to basically shorten the amount of time that you're on the brakes to save time which means

00:22:40.820 you're going to go as close to that light as possible stand on the brakes as hard as possible

00:22:45.560 hoping that you will slow down enough to stop and and dude it's just a completely different

00:22:52.140 thing than driving than driving on the road it's completely different it's it's it's addicting i mean

00:23:00.200 you saw it when i you know what andy's talking about we took him to this like racing school in

00:23:04.760 vegas this was gosh well just when you were 2017 2017 yeah yeah yeah it's one last car that's right

00:23:10.980 yeah yeah yeah it's just you can like you said i mean you can take like we all drive cars right on

00:23:18.300 the street right so you think you know how hard could it be you know you go left you go right you

00:23:22.940 know slow down hit the brakes and one thing a racing car like you drove the ferrari challenge car

00:23:28.140 a racing car compared to a street car i mean the nicest the greatest street car you can make i mean

00:23:34.120 you've driven some of the best cars in the world right they're unbelievable they perform really

00:23:38.820 well they usually go really well with speed right but with a racing car the ability to stop

00:23:44.540 at a tremendous uh fast a tremendous rate in a very short distance is unbelievable and it's not

00:23:51.400 just the brakes it's the tires it's like the the down force grab if you the force that you have to hit

00:23:57.720 to to stop a race car you know at speed at pace is so unbelievably hard i mean when you know like

00:24:05.400 i told andy andy you got to hit the brake hard you know he was okay you know you look at andy and

00:24:09.660 think like this guy can hit the brake right you know he'll be fine you know and he goes out there

00:24:13.220 his first few laps and we because there's a there's a sensor on the brake pedal it mounts

00:24:17.000 measures the pressure per square inch and we come back like hey andy the brake pressure you know we

00:24:22.660 need you know you can hit it man you hit it harder he's like dude i am hitting it hard yeah

00:24:26.420 well dude you don't know like you don't don't understand you don't understand what they're

00:24:30.700 saying yeah like you think they're saying like break it hard on the road yeah it's like dude

00:24:35.440 it's like as hard as you fucking can yeah yeah try to break the pedal off it feels it feels

00:24:41.420 counterintuitive yeah like when you first start everything feels wrong because honestly if you

00:24:45.680 were in a street car and you hit the brake as hard as what you have to on the racing car you would

00:24:50.400 probably crash the street car it doesn't have the suspension and the down force to just suck to the

00:24:55.500 road it would you know you could lose the car right in a race car it's designed to at the last

00:25:01.800 possible moment you go from you know zero brake pressure to it it's undeniably and it's not like

00:25:09.600 you're coasting when that happens you're at full throttle full throttle okay and then you're off the

00:25:13.980 throttle and on the brake full brake and it's dude it's it's it's aggressive it's a thing dude like

00:25:19.160 you get out of the car in your first time and you're like it's disorienting well the most one of the

00:25:24.420 most things like and you'll see a formula one indy car drivers one of the toughest things that in

00:25:28.500 training that we're all working on is our necks yeah and obviously there's there's there's g-force

00:25:33.020 side to side but then also when you're racing you have a helmet on right and this helmet you know weighs

00:25:38.400 a decent amount when you're sitting still well when you're when you're traveling fast it weighs a lot

00:25:42.540 more and the biggest is the the g-force you have under braking yeah right let me and your head is

00:25:48.480 yeah you're strapped in with your body with the with the five point harnesses but your head is loose

00:25:53.000 right yeah so the the amount of force that you've got to be able to withhold with your neck from your

00:25:58.220 face wanting to slam into the steering wheel it takes some um it takes some time getting used to

00:26:04.300 dude it was awesome it's awesome dude like and once you like it's like golf it's like you go out

00:26:11.120 and you play golf and for 17 holes you fucking hit the ball all over the golf course and and you're

00:26:17.860 like this sucks yeah and then like there's like one shot that you hit and it goes straight down

00:26:24.080 and it's like i'm going pro you're like you're like this is the coolest thing ever and that's

00:26:30.180 how it is with racing like it's it's you know i'm very inexperienced in a race car okay but i have

00:26:38.880 enough experience driving you know like you said the best cars in the world to have a good

00:26:44.540 perspective you weren't that bad no we turned out good bro we got some funny stories we got

00:26:51.420 so so i'm ultra competitive yeah right like everybody probably guessed this uh so the other

00:26:59.920 thing i struggled with was the fucking spinning of the car all right like i think i spun the car

00:27:06.100 over the weekend it had to be some sort of record like it had to be something yeah dude it had to have

00:27:12.800 been remember we were talking about finding the limit right yeah you gotta go past it yeah and uh

00:27:17.460 uh what's his name uh enrico enrico enrico was like hey man you know at least you're aggressive most

00:27:24.740 people are not aggressive they drive the whole time ever spend yeah so so dude we're like at like

00:27:30.460 there we're at this race and like all these other dudes that are there are like guys who have been

00:27:36.480 through the school already and it's like their year-end race i had not been through the school

00:27:42.480 so like we just went out there and like i just was with all these dudes so i was the least experienced

00:27:48.960 person there yeah and uh we start doing these we start you know running these practice laps and i got

00:27:56.500 this coach uh i forget his name was jr i think his name was and bro he's screaming in my ear first of all

00:28:03.960 like and like dude when people scream at me i'm like you know and he's like gas gas gas break break

00:28:09.920 break fuck like just screaming in your ear from this far away to telling you what to do and from

00:28:15.460 the first second you pull on the track i'm like bro can i like go around once like i don't even know

00:28:20.360 what the fuck we're looking at so we go around the track a whole bunch of times for like three days

00:28:26.320 and dude i'm spinning the car and we get to like the third day dude and i don't remember what happened

00:28:32.460 but but dude so so there's this guy who was my race partner so they pair you up with a with a

00:28:40.340 another guy all right and they you're gonna run the first half of the race and they run like the

00:28:44.760 second they paired me up with this dude craig who was you know he was a little bit older than us

00:28:49.100 fucking awesome dude he's from australia still we're still friends on on the internet in fact he

00:28:55.540 runs a dream racing in in the yeah australia in australia yeah yeah yeah um but his son was there

00:29:03.060 his son's like 12 okay so like do you do you remember what happened what well there was like

00:29:10.300 a qualifying right it's a proper race yeah it's gonna be a proper race at the end of this like

00:29:13.860 week-long deal that you only came for the last few days of but you know uh you had to do a qualifying

00:29:18.920 so each driver uh could go out to try to set their one fastest lap time just like we do a real race

00:29:24.000 and that would determine how you would start and line up right well you had a spin in like the last

00:29:29.460 practice and got like completely down on yourself yeah you know that you were like so you're you were

00:29:34.300 um you were ready to go do something else dude so like so and so you were the one that was supposed

00:29:39.840 to qualify for you and craig yeah like if you didn't qualify then craig would have to start like

00:29:44.960 dead last yeah you know so then the his son comes over so dude i come out of the car and i'm like

00:29:50.480 this is fucking i'm fucking pissed bro like you guys see me like when i'm top level pissed that's

00:29:58.080 how pissed i was and i'm i'm like fucking uh fucking ryan's like yeah just leave him alone like

00:30:06.420 let him leave below so dude i go sit by my by myself like way over there yeah and fucking this

00:30:14.440 craig's son who's 12 at the time comes over and like sits next to me and i'm like i'm fucking mad

00:30:22.300 dude and like and then choke a kid no but like how can you be mad at a 12 year old kid you know

00:30:29.880 and he's like he's like hey man you're doing good he's like he he's like no listen he gives me like a

00:30:37.940 pep talk he's like and he he meant it dude he's like hey he's like you're doing good it's your

00:30:42.840 first time on the track he's like you're doing really good my dad said you're doing good too

00:30:46.640 and like gives me this pep talk and i like five minutes later i'm like all right yeah i'm good

00:30:51.760 let's go like dude yeah so like out of all the pep talks i've given in my life yeah i get the best

00:30:58.500 one from this from a 12 year old kid yeah you went if i remember i don't remember but i remember we won

00:31:03.340 qualifying yeah you you qualify you went out you won qualifying so you beat all the other uh cars

00:31:08.340 so there's like eight cars or something and then um yeah you got you started the race no i finished

00:31:13.780 the race you finished it you qualified then started from your position then you finished but yeah and i

00:31:18.460 remember you telling me like man dude i took the kid came over and was like mr andy you know you're

00:31:22.380 doing good and like that i realized like man i can't let this get like yeah i can't get mad and leave

00:31:27.020 dude and and so in the actual race bro like i don't remember how many laps we run or whatever

00:31:34.500 i don't know i think it was it was it timed was it an hour yeah probably i don't remember what it

00:31:39.060 started in the day but finished into the night yeah yeah so but dude i hadn't gone that long

00:31:45.500 the entire weekend without fucking spinning the car like so somehow i i went through the whole race

00:31:53.880 it's been the car and we won oh fuck yeah which was yeah which was cool yeah but uh dude the best

00:32:00.540 laps i ran that race were when we went i don't know if i should say this or not but we were at the bar

00:32:07.380 drinking like having a couple drinks and then we had to take a helicopter from the hotel to the racetrack

00:32:13.460 yeah for like a night event there and then they let you like drive a take a couple yeah whatever car

00:32:20.600 you want for a couple laps and i had a gt3 rs at the time so i was familiar with the car

00:32:25.420 fuck dude i did fine in that car i was i had a couple whiskeys in me

00:32:29.820 but you know there was nobody else nice and loose nice and smooth i was i was nice and relaxed don't

00:32:35.900 recommend this yeah don't i don't even know i should say that he's a professional

00:32:39.600 it is truth but but uh yeah man i'll never forget that weekend uh uh i didn't know when you were so

00:32:48.960 upset after the qualifying you know we were just starting out like we were racing together that

00:32:53.180 year is your first year sponsor we were doing lamborghini uh lamborghini super trofeo super

00:32:57.260 trofeo yeah yeah so it's the first time we had first form on the race car and i was sitting there

00:33:01.560 thinking like man this probably be the first and last time i have a first form sponsorship and he's

00:33:06.300 gonna be he's gonna hate cars so much no it was awesome dude yeah you you did great man that was

00:33:11.320 uh that was a good time yeah it's great great business out there and uh we're at las vegas

00:33:16.320 motor speedway yeah dude and remember i don't even know i should tell these stories dude enrico

00:33:22.280 renting those two jettas oh yeah so dude learning car control yes so enrico's like former f1 yeah he

00:33:30.060 drove okay so this dude i don't know what do you think he is 60s yeah probably probably yeah early

00:33:36.040 60s now yeah yeah he's late 50s early 60s italian guy awesome guy super awesome guy super cool

00:33:42.820 like exactly like every other race car driver that's like just fucking he owned the racing school

00:33:49.880 yeah he owned the whole thing and he's like you know hey no big deal like like just not doesn't

00:33:54.760 give a fuck the only thing he gave a fuck the entire time was when we were right he goes and he

00:34:01.300 rents these jettas bro and he's like all right uh we're gonna go do uh what do they call it uh

00:34:08.360 where you follow him yeah lead follow lead follow lead follows so him and i went out on the track

00:34:13.640 together and like raced each other you're trying to learn how close you can be to another car in

00:34:19.660 front of you or beside you like we all drive on the road and you think oh i'm i'm close to the car

00:34:24.840 in front of me you when you really learn how what close is you know like close means they touch you

00:34:31.600 they touch you yeah well don't hit you know rub is racing that's right you know uh you know what

00:34:38.920 the movie that's from yeah days of thunder yeah greatest movie ever that's right uh but yeah so

00:34:44.520 you are learning um you know car control and car proximity yeah with lead and follow with two rental

00:34:50.200 cars i'm just trying to picture any in a fucking jetta no bro this is awesome the most fun so we're

00:34:58.300 racing these fucking jettas around the racetrack and the coach is like you can get closer get closer

00:35:02.900 get closer we're like like bumping each other's shit and like we get done and i'm like the only

00:35:08.560 thing he got mad about is we were going down the we were going on the straight and i like like

00:35:13.200 fucking fake and he's like can't do that that's against the code like he got super fucking pissed

00:35:18.460 but dude so we got done and i'm like so so dude uh i'm like so how come you don't use your own cars

00:35:26.340 for that and he's like well because we we beat him up and i'm like so like the rental place doesn't

00:35:33.560 care he's like no we just get the insurance he was dead serious dude he was dead serious i'm like so

00:35:41.080 they haven't caught on he's like no i don't care no big deal that's crazy yeah learning to drive a

00:35:47.000 race car but yeah man those good times that's what uh we should honestly do that again dude what

00:35:51.280 we should do is get like some of our guys here that you know make them like we'll do a contest

00:35:58.460 or something and take them and get them in a race car yeah because like dude you cannot appreciate

00:36:03.560 racing because here's the best thing that came out of that it wasn't what i learned about driving

00:36:09.780 which i did learn a lot i mean you want to learn how to drive you learn a lot in in a very short amount

00:36:14.260 of time in a race school but it's when you it's like playing a musical instrument like when you

00:36:20.240 start to play a musical instrument and you realize how hard it is and then you see like

00:36:24.460 somebody who's really good at it and you can appreciate it's the same with racing the best thing

00:36:29.820 that came out of that race school for me was how much of a fan it made me of racing yeah you know

00:36:36.280 because now i'm like dude these guys are really good like where you you know we watch if you've

00:36:42.820 ever been through that and you watch racing you're like i could probably do that you know and it's

00:36:46.220 like dude it's a different it's a totally different thing different yeah i mean if anyone's there you're

00:36:52.360 into cars i mean going out on a racetrack uh even just completely by yourself it's it's awesome to

00:36:57.740 learn you're you know you think you have limits right and then uh if you ever get a chance to be

00:37:02.680 around a professional driver and as soon as you start thinking like man you know like i'm i'm doing good

00:37:08.120 here you know i'm i'm really killing it if you ever get a chance to ride like passenger seat with

00:37:13.340 a with a top level driver your your eyes will really get open uh about what's possible right

00:37:20.580 you know in terms of braking yeah and where the limit really is on a car like dude i mean you know

00:37:27.180 it's so far past it is what people think it is where when everything is right like when your tires are

00:37:31.900 right and like what that car will do is like almost double or triple what you think it'll do

00:37:41.040 yeah like what you feel when you're in the car oh it's yeah it's what takes people so so much longer

00:37:46.100 like i remember uh telling you the uh one of the wildest corners and and all of racing anywhere is

00:37:51.680 turn one at sebring in florida um the race of the car here that we won this corner is like

00:37:57.600 you enter the corner uh in fifth gear uh on a car we do have one more gear but we enter it at around

00:38:05.380 150 miles an hour from a really long straightaway before it and there's bumps all the way through

00:38:10.780 this thing and this there's a concrete wall that is you know marks the apex of the corner on the

00:38:16.360 inside and uh it's a it's a virtually a 90 degree corner so you're going straight and it's a hard left

00:38:22.040 that's a 90 degree and this corner our minimum speed in a gt3r is about 132 miles an hour that's

00:38:32.180 the slowest that you get in the middle of the corner um and i remember walking you through that

00:38:37.500 one and doing like no wait 134 is like the slowest and like believe me when you first go at it and

00:38:43.640 there's also a concrete wall that you're staring at don't you start that on the on the outside and

00:38:48.280 kind of like try to cross it straight almost across you yeah you start you any any high speed

00:38:52.920 corner you want to start as far to the outside of you know the corner and you know make the apex and

00:38:59.040 then utilize all the track on the exit you try to open the corner up as much as possible and that

00:39:03.360 one's just wild because it's basically a hard right there's a concrete wall on the inside a concrete wall

00:39:09.360 on the outside so if you mess up there isn't like a sand pit or some gravel or you know everything

00:39:16.000 if you mess up like you mess up really bad yeah and like i said the slowest the slowest you get down

00:39:21.640 to is roughly 130 miles an hour and like that one when you can wrap your mind around like when you

00:39:28.200 actually do it once you have a whole new understanding you know of what's possible and

00:39:33.620 then like that's probably one of our gnarliest ones here but i'm sure you guys like i know you

00:39:38.620 and formula one big fan of uh spa in belgium yeah this is the greatest racetrack in the world

00:39:43.220 there's no question and there's a corner there called eau rouge it's actually a a series of

00:39:48.760 corners that are all tied together and it's that that is without a doubt like the craziest thing i

00:39:54.980 have ever done that's the downhill one right no you go uphill so you you enter this this section of

00:40:01.060 corners at top top gear so six six gear as fast as the car will go um and it's a series of corners

00:40:09.120 that you first go left is that it right there though yeah like all of these corners are it yeah

00:40:13.660 this is all it so um there's it's it's a combination of like through four corners tied together and it's

00:40:23.940 if you mess up here again there's no like runoff there's no mistake this is it's also like this is

00:40:28.940 like the deadliest corner in racing a more it's a more more drivers have died at this one corner than

00:40:34.640 like anywhere else in the world um because it it can be done like in a gt3 it can be done flat

00:40:40.560 without lifting but this is like perfect weather conditions you know perfect grip from the tires

00:40:46.520 perfect weight balance with the car and then if you where most people make a mistake if you lift

00:40:52.180 you know your heart and soul and everything in your body says hey man we should we should back off

00:40:57.260 here a little bit if you lift you actually take downforce off the car and make the car squirrely

00:41:02.460 squirrely and move and if you lift at the wrong moment in this series of course there's no saving

00:41:06.560 it i mean there's no there's no catching it you're you know and it's a it's a really bad crash now i

00:41:11.960 say all these bad things when you do it the first time wide open without lifting it is the most exhilarating

00:41:17.780 feeling on planet earth i don't know anything any better and maybe it's like oh you cheated you know

00:41:23.900 this you've seen all the massive crashes and stuff but there's nothing that i can't even like

00:41:29.860 closely described to it and like when you first arrive there you can watch it on tv as much as

00:41:35.300 you want but when you first arrive one it's going uphill this hill is like you're climbing like three

00:41:39.620 stories and it is i mean it's a hard left a hard right and a hard left back again and and you're

00:41:45.080 like wait a second this is flat like we don't my first thought approaching it was we need to not only

00:41:51.000 lift we need to probably break and maybe consider a downshift yeah we should consider all of the above but

00:41:58.020 this place like i've been telling you like you've got to go to like watch a race there one and then

00:42:03.880 uh they have like driving events like you can go and like like porsche porsche and manti they do like

00:42:08.660 track days where you can turn up and drive like a gt3 rs or whatnot like you got to go drive at this

00:42:13.580 track and it you don't have to do a rouge flat but uh just to go up it it's uh an experience in person

00:42:19.720 like as a car you know person i regularly like anyone if you're ever into it like go to belgium

00:42:24.860 go to spa watch the f1 race uh they have a 24 hour race there as well um i've won that race i've

00:42:31.520 uh probably one of probably my some of my best driving ever done i was on pole uh position there

00:42:36.200 um for the european lemas series championship one year and that was that was probably the best lap

00:42:42.340 i've ever done in my life but uh that place is cool so dude let's let's kind of shift a little bit

00:42:48.500 and let's talk about moving you know through the big races um you know we started it with

00:42:56.120 lamborghini's series race yeah yeah super trafaz a single make series where all the cars were exactly

00:43:04.600 the same um and that's a great place to start as a driver because as a driver you're the only

00:43:09.280 difference i mean every everyone's car is exactly the same with the rules and um teams can make small

00:43:14.800 adjustments like the rear wing angle and the ride heights but not not really a lot so it's truly

00:43:19.900 a competition of the driver where now and just like formula one or um what we race now in gt3

00:43:26.880 you're racing against other manufacturers so you know there's always differences between a porsche and

00:43:32.320 a ferrari and a lamborghini so there's more variables um but single make series like the super

00:43:38.100 trofeo for lamborghini that was that was awesome because you know there's no excuses man if you're slow

00:43:43.000 you're you know in every major for those of you who are uh you know not familiar with this

00:43:48.640 so porsche has one of these single makes ferrari has one of these single makes there's basically one

00:43:55.480 for every major manufacturer and that's where most uh like what we would call general gentleman racers

00:44:02.700 that end up doing what you've done yep come from yeah that's where you go i mean it's it's one of

00:44:08.140 the least expensive you know forms of racing um a lot of a lot of guys that do it for fun they they

00:44:14.260 like that part of it that hey you know the driver's only difference but uh um yeah it's where you go to

00:44:19.480 kind of get your get your start i would say you know and in racing if you do well like they have

00:44:25.580 a championship with lamborghinis here in north america um in our second year uh of racing that we

00:44:32.320 won the north american championship and then you go to a world championship where they have a series in

00:44:37.620 europe and they have a series in asia and america and all those drivers come together at one race they

00:44:42.840 change the location you know and this is the same with ferrari this is the same with porsche uh and

00:44:47.740 for lamborghini in this our second year we won the world championship um so once you do that they kind

00:44:53.840 of kick you out yeah like because they want it they want it to be like you know a place for you know

00:44:59.580 you know drivers that are coming up can it go to so yeah that was plus you got to realize these are

00:45:05.680 their best customers yeah so like yeah yeah there's you you want to keep yes yeah you can't

00:45:11.280 have one guy they're winning all the time and they're they kind of politely ask you hey it's

00:45:15.480 time to move on it's time to move on yeah so then we moved in 2018 right yeah 2018 yeah and then we

00:45:21.560 moved into imza yeah yeah the imza weather tech sports car championship um we moved there in 2019

00:45:29.120 which here in north america that's kind of like our top level of sports car and endurance racing um

00:45:35.840 it's owned by nascar so the france family and all and that's the home of our biggest races like the

00:45:41.440 24 hours of daytona and the 12 hours of sebring and um and that's where all the manufacturers come

00:45:46.720 to compete against each other so you know the lamborghini races against the porsche and against

00:45:52.320 the corvette and against the ferrari and so um yeah that's uh our first year racing there was in 2019

00:45:59.920 and then the you we won that was what 2021 the porsche that was 2020 2020 yeah we won

00:46:08.480 the 12 hours of sebring you know and um that was our first like big uh well it was i mean that was our

00:46:14.960 first big you know kind of marquee you know race that the 12 hours of sebring is one of the uh triple

00:46:22.960 crown of of sports car racing which is uh you know sebring uh daytona and then obviously the 24 hours

00:46:29.280 of lamar being the biggest but yeah we won that race in 2020 it was the last race of the year that

00:46:34.960 year and uh man that was a that was an awesome time with andy andy was gonna come to that race he had

00:46:41.040 something coming at the last minute he couldn't come and i had a feeling we were pretty competitive

00:46:45.600 in the championship that year we had been on the podium a couple times but we hadn't won a race

00:46:49.920 you know at this at this high level and um we were it's a 12-hour race and we qualified well i think

00:46:56.000 we were in the top three or so in qualifying so i kind of knew we had a decent car and all uh started

00:47:01.200 the race off we were always kind of around the top five we got up to the lead for a little bit and you

00:47:06.160 know then you kind of fall back you know it's you know obviously there's lots of chaos but i remember

00:47:10.560 about halfway through we were somewhere in the top five and i'm i'm out of the car at this point

00:47:15.360 my teammates are in and i'm texting with andy he's back here watching it and you know he's what he

00:47:20.160 watches like every minute he knows everything going like you last like why are we pitting right now like

00:47:24.000 is everything okay you know like yeah i'm definitely that guy yeah you know and like dude when they're

00:47:28.960 racing it's on tv i'm i don't sleep yeah he gets he wants to know like the inside like well we're

00:47:33.840 pit now because we're saving some fuel so i have to explain to him the strategy what's going on

00:47:38.000 and um i remember it like with six hours to go he's like dude we're gonna win and i'm like ah you

00:47:45.200 know this is a long way to go there's a lot that can happen he's like no man i feel it we're gonna

00:47:50.560 win this one and i just dismissed it i'm like okay i'll keep you posted you know and i went in for

00:47:56.640 like another stint or so i come back out there was like two hours to go or so and we're in the lead

00:48:02.240 you know we're going it's getting it's dark now sebring always ends at night and i'm done with my

00:48:06.640 drive time my teammates are gonna end um patrick long was our teammate that year um uh who's in the

00:48:12.800 new f1 movie if you get a chance see it's uh he's got some plays himself in the was it cory on the

00:48:17.600 team that year no cory wasn't on that was the um yeah the next year yeah um but yeah no we were we

00:48:25.840 were leading and we were in this battle with the ferrari uh i remember and that the ferrari was faster

00:48:31.440 than us that year they just had pace on us and we were you know we were scrappy you know and uh

00:48:37.600 andy's texting with me we get down to the the hour that's left and he's like dude i'm telling you we're

00:48:42.320 gonna win and i'm like don't say it just don't like don't jinx us man like you know you never know

00:48:47.200 and um man there was a there was a yellow flag because there was a crash with like 15 minutes to

00:48:53.520 go and so that bunches the whole field back up so now it was just kind of us in the ferrari up front

00:48:58.840 but then now there's like the whole field is now bunched up and they clean the wreck up and then

00:49:04.440 you're it's green flag again there's like 30 minutes left in the race and man we had a we had

00:49:09.060 an awesome battle but uh we won the race cross the line finish it was super close race and man i just

00:49:14.900 i can't you know it was like i'm not a guy i mean you're texting something like i'm not gonna say i told

00:49:19.660 you so but i did tell you so dude what was that race that we won that oh fuck there was like a was

00:49:29.600 that the one was that the race where there was like a wreck right at the end like right at the end

00:49:33.840 that was sebring yeah and that's what that the amg car fucking wrecked i think so yeah yeah i think

00:49:39.360 so it was mercedes i can't remember i just remember this ferrari yeah battling and you know you guys

00:49:44.880 recycled that engine because that car sitting in the lobby then that that yeah the same engine went

00:49:49.820 to next year and won the 21 daytona no it's like we know that no different engine the car engine is

00:49:55.960 in his house is in my house yeah yeah porsche did a cool gift andy we got to keep the car you know

00:50:02.540 from porsche it's here at first form headquarters uh but they had told us at time like hey we have to

00:50:07.800 take the engine out to do some maintenance before it like goes into you know storage or you know display

00:50:13.580 but uh yeah porsche made a really awesome gift for me they they took the engine out that we won

00:50:18.780 and they made the engine the whole block and everything into a coffee table and they gifted

00:50:24.380 it to me and they took the six uh pistons out and they gave like the two other drivers they made the

00:50:29.900 piston with like a frame and everything and like our lead engineer and the lead mechanic so

00:50:34.140 six everybody's got a piece of it yeah like a piston you know in the rod and then they gave me the

00:50:39.940 uh it's still in my basement my man cave you know today but um yeah that that was that was i had one

00:50:46.340 other time that andy had a you know i told you so when we won daytona uh two years later in 2022

00:50:52.640 on the 24 hours of daytona um he was again like during the race like bro i fit we're winning this

00:50:58.720 and i'm like oh god not again like we got the text to prove it yeah yeah we got the text so we were like

00:51:03.400 dude we're we're gonna win like i'm telling you we're gonna win and you know every time i'm out of

00:51:07.060 the car no we were talking about that before the fucking race we were because you because remember

00:51:11.360 we put believe on the back of the car on the back of the car yeah i had this whole yeah that

00:51:15.620 was a facetime call too in the locker room before that yeah yeah yeah with the team yeah we had andy

00:51:20.180 called to the we always have a team meeting you know uh before the race you know day and andy

00:51:25.520 called in on facetime he'd spoke to all our mechanics all our you know guys and gather around

00:51:29.860 and he said guys you gotta you gotta believe like and he said i already believe i already believe

00:51:34.740 we are going to win we we're prepared we're ready and we are going to win and it got everybody

00:51:40.180 pumped up you know and yeah we had out of that the team made a little sticker right on the back

00:51:45.040 of the bumper we just put uh believe yeah and that was kind of our inner mantra that before you can do

00:51:50.700 anything great you got to believe and that all came from andy and you know the race went up and

00:51:54.980 down again you know now we had to try to win that race a number of times before this oh yeah and it

00:51:59.660 was yeah four times before it you know and uh you know mike andy this is one of the hardest races in

00:52:06.160 the world you know i'm just yeah some dudes will race their whole lives and never win that race

00:52:10.520 same with lamont yeah yeah in fact most people most people yeah yeah it's i mean the guy who um

00:52:16.660 owned the team that we were racing with that year john wright he spent his entire career uh yeah

00:52:22.200 awesome awesome guy owns wright motorsports uh he started as a mechanic for a team for porsche i worked his

00:52:27.820 way up got to own his own team and i mean he's been racing professionally as a mechanic and team

00:52:33.040 owner for 30 some odd years of his life and done daytona every one of those years he never won

00:52:40.140 and you know i'm telling andy like hey man most people spend their career trying to win this race

00:52:44.920 and uh he's like well we're we're gonna win and uh uh and dude and i'll never forget we still have it

00:52:51.540 to this day we cross the finish line we won and i was right you know obviously it's very hectic and

00:52:56.580 all of this and um uh we're going up to the podium i checked my phone andy had text he goes hey man

00:53:01.900 you know i love your brother and i want you to know i always believe in you and one other thing

00:53:06.420 we're gonna win the 24 hours of lamont it like immediately we hadn't even gone to accept the

00:53:11.620 trophy from daytona and andy's already telling me we're gonna win the 24 hours of lamont and i again

00:53:18.560 i'm like oh andy which started a whole new journey yeah so next year off we went to europe trying to

00:53:28.860 start to qualify for lamont and uh it took a couple years yeah the first two lamonts did not go very

00:53:35.400 well did not go very well what happened right i mean you know that a lot a lot of shit can happen

00:53:43.600 in 24 hours let me tell you or the first hour yeah or the first gosh we the first year we crashed

00:53:51.240 out i mean i think i made it into like hour two or something but i was in the car we crashed and

00:53:56.900 actually another guy crashed yeah see what happened i arrived at another crash going on and i joined that

00:54:04.880 crash it looked like a good time thought we thought we would all you know you know things happen like

00:54:11.840 that's why these 24 hour races are so difficult to win i can't explain to you when you put there's

00:54:17.040 this year at lamont there were 62 cars in the field um we're in a couple different classes but there's

00:54:22.740 62 cars out there running around and you put 62 cars with type a personality drivers who all think

00:54:29.620 they're the best in the world and are all you know trying to win the biggest race in the world and

00:54:33.520 man shit happens you know and and you're you're constantly in this environment of of chaos

00:54:39.140 that is uncontrollable and you know it's so easy for you to do everything right like our first year

00:54:46.120 at lamont i i like i was at the right spot on the track i was looking i did the right thing and just

00:54:51.540 this other guy he crashed literally right in front of me i mean there was and everyone's like oh ryan

00:54:56.180 don't take it so hard on yourself like no one could have done anything max verstappen couldn't have

00:55:00.660 avoided that crash uh you know you always think that there's something better you could do but

00:55:05.540 a lot of times you know you can be prepared and and something happens out of your control and and

00:55:11.360 that's it man you know i i think people you guys got to understand like you you can literally like

00:55:17.620 to finish a 20 even a 12-hour race or a six-hour race much less a 24-hour race

00:55:23.580 without a car without the car breaking without without you slipping on something on the track

00:55:31.280 without flat tire flat tire without uh you know i mean dude there's so much shit that has to go

00:55:40.680 right it's you know like you said somebody could crash in front of you somebody could make a stupid

00:55:45.900 move oh by the way you're in gt3 or gtd class which is the slowest class out there but also the

00:55:54.020 hardest class to win in the biggest class yes because the these you've got all these other cars like the

00:56:00.900 prototype cars that are 10 million dollars a piece you know flying by you and like it's

00:56:08.580 dude you have there there is an element and i hate using this word but there is an element of

00:56:17.440 pure luck there there without a doubt i mean without a doubt you have to we say all the time like these

00:56:23.740 big races you have to be prepared yeah right i mean and because you're going into this uncontrollable

00:56:29.540 situation you have to execute on every single thing you can control like for the driver like

00:56:36.340 my fitness i can control that i can i have to execute i can't be fatigued i can't be overweight i

00:56:44.320 can't be you know i have to be perfect i can control that um i we can control our pit stops right we can

00:56:51.680 control if we make sure that the wheel guns are working properly we can control that if we practice

00:56:56.200 that and choreograph that we can control that the tire pressures are set correctly in the tires

00:57:00.880 there's there's lots of things we can control and we have to execute on all those things because

00:57:05.580 you're going to go out on track with these 61 other you know idiots uh all that you can't control right

00:57:13.160 you can't control the weather you can't control track conditions you can't control you know safety

00:57:18.540 cars when they come out so there's all these things that you just have to focus on the things that

00:57:23.380 you can't control and so you can be perfect on all those things and have a run of bad luck people

00:57:28.340 don't understand dude like there's guys out there like there's a that you can basically buy your way

00:57:34.060 into these things so in every race and this is no knock but i mean this is just the way racing is like

00:57:41.100 you're going to be on the track with guys who are super professional f1 champions the best drivers in

00:57:48.540 history and you're also going to be on the track guys with the dude next door that has a medical

00:57:53.920 device company that fucking has enough money to run the race who doesn't know shit about racing

00:57:59.200 so it's like dude it really is chaos there there's there's there's always you know a handful of those

00:58:06.520 guys yeah you know um yeah you know that's what a lot of it it takes to win i get i get a lot of

00:58:12.200 those questions you know what what what does it take and like how do you pull it off and honestly you

00:58:16.980 got to have the thing that i think is rare is one there are definitely better teams than others

00:58:23.700 so you've got to get to a position as a driver that you're um on the radar of some of the best teams

00:58:29.840 if you're shit slow or you you don't have fun there's a funny there's a financial element like

00:58:35.480 for for for me i you know the rare combination that i've been able to spend the time to develop the

00:58:42.420 skill set in order to drive the car fast that's one thing that is rare and then also i've been able

00:58:47.980 through my business life through my relationship with you as sponsorship i've you know some driver

00:58:52.760 has to bring financial element to the deal whether that comes from your own money whether that comes

00:58:57.540 from outside sponsorship you can find either of those two you can find super talented fast drivers

00:59:03.020 that don't have a penny to their name or no sponsorship or no connections right they're not

00:59:07.420 that valuable because the car someone has to pay for the car to go around or you can find guys that

00:59:11.960 have tons of money that can't drive a bit of a liability a bit yeah a bit not with the skill set so

00:59:19.180 i've been able to devote a lot of my life you know on the business side uh the things to be able to

00:59:25.120 bring some of my own financial you know means to a team been able to make great relationships with

00:59:30.260 guys like andy and have bring sponsorship to our team or team first forms the title sponsor

00:59:34.200 and still you can have all that you can bring all that stuff but someone has to drive the car

00:59:39.680 right at an extremely high level for you know hours and hours on end without a mistake so um like the

00:59:45.880 first year when we arrived i had all this we had the everything was there we had a good team

00:59:50.320 i felt like i had done the work i the car crashed with me in it so i you know i can't it wasn't my

00:59:57.200 teammates fault i got you know and yeah you can say uh wrong place wrong time i was in the car man

01:00:02.020 what's that like dude like how's that feel like for real it's because i mean when you do it when

01:00:07.520 you crash that's what i'm saying bad like when your team i've been where my teammate crashed and

01:00:11.400 you're like shit dude i didn't even get to drive like you know so like i wouldn't have crashed yeah

01:00:15.200 yeah i wouldn't have crashed you know there's easy that then that feels bad yeah but dude when you're

01:00:19.840 when you're at the wheel dude and like you crash it not like oh we got to come in and fix it like

01:00:25.540 you're out like i've been i've been because that's the first radio call is we're out

01:00:31.260 yeah you're because they engineer they don't know they have sensors and stuff on the car they

01:00:35.500 can tell the car stopped right you know but they don't know what happened like oh maybe he can get

01:00:39.920 it back yeah like when you properly crash it yeah it's not like how you see on f1 tv on the

01:00:44.900 on the show where they the guys have so much data they know they they know yeah they i mean our guys

01:00:49.700 have a tremendous amount of data but they they know if you stop it's not good can you get the car

01:00:54.660 back as you you know can you get it back to the pit lane but when you're sitting there and like

01:00:59.060 the whole front is smashed off or whatever and you got to tell them like we're out all the you know

01:01:04.400 and that all this work all this money all this time all this preparation it's all you know dude

01:01:10.600 and the preparation is for a year like that's like you start prepping to run the daytona

01:01:17.960 the the minute after the daytona finishes or the lamar finishes like obviously we have other races

01:01:24.860 throughout the year but like they're all tuned up that's right i mean everyone wants to win

01:01:29.940 lamar for sure is the biggest race in the world i mean like or like you can ask like any driver any

01:01:35.520 formula what i mean look right now the talk in formula one is uh like mclaren is making a new car

01:01:41.000 to come to race at lamar and like lando norris and austere piastri verstappen's talking about he

01:01:45.760 wants to come to lamar like every every driver i don't care who you are you want to win the 24 hours

01:01:50.420 of lamar the indianapolis 500 is up there you know the biggest race the monaco grand prix and f1 but

01:01:56.260 it is lamar is one of i would say the top three races in the world that everyone wants to win it's

01:02:00.940 the most viewed yeah it's the most viewed motor race ever so that amount of pressure you have like

01:02:07.760 everyone from f1 to nascar to indycar like everyone wants to be at this race so the the preparation that

01:02:14.560 goes in if you have and one you can't just sign up to come to lamar you have to be invited so even as

01:02:19.280 a driver or a team there's only so many slots that you know cars can physically fit into the uh

01:02:25.080 in the pit lane so you have to earn an invitation and so even then to earn the invitation the amount

01:02:30.060 of preparation that goes into being ready you know for the race both from a personnel standpoint in

01:02:34.600 the car like i can tell you our our car at porsche they work on that car i mean every single part of

01:02:41.980 that car has been gone over time and time and time again and like we have like a splitter like the

01:02:48.400 front splitter that's in the front and i can't talk to you about a lot of the secret things but

01:02:52.200 i can tell you like they're the front splitter we have the rear wing that we have there are certain

01:02:56.840 parts on the car that are lamar only and i mean they are they are designed exactly for this one race

01:03:02.640 right to make lamar is kind of interesting because we have these super long straightaways like the

01:03:06.960 molson straight where we're going top speed for a really really long time and then there's also

01:03:12.080 super high speed corners and then some very very tight first gear corners so the track when you

01:03:18.860 first look at it looks kind of simplistic when you're there it's like the combination of everything

01:03:24.140 you have to have a car it's fast on the straights because if you're not you're just going to get

01:03:27.620 passed and it's easiest place to pass you have to have a car that has enough downforce to be stable

01:03:32.680 in the really high speed corners like these ones down here at the end corners like 20 and stuff

01:03:37.400 through here those are called the porsche curves um dude you enter those cars like those corners in

01:03:42.940 fifth gear and you're going through there at 140 to 130 miles an hour and then you have corners like

01:03:49.260 the final chicanes those are called the ford chicanes uh you're you're in first gear in first

01:03:54.500 gear you're barely crawling there's these huge curbs that you gotta climb and go under so the car has

01:03:59.520 to perform at low speed medium speed high speed and it also has to be fast right so it's from an

01:04:05.340 engineering standpoint it's super hard to have a car that's good at all of those things and you'll

01:04:11.660 never have one that's perfect at all of them you'll always have some you know inadequacy but yeah that's

01:04:18.880 what's so kind of special and unique about you know uh developing the car that you know can be good

01:04:23.780 around that track but if you can be fast here you can be fast anywhere let me let me ask you this how

01:04:28.020 how hard was it for you to learn that skill of just trusting your other teammates right like whether

01:04:34.840 it's pit crew whether it's like your your engineers like having to have that faith trust in somebody

01:04:40.860 else to control something you can't control i mean that i um i think i know i mean to beat the business

01:04:48.460 analogy horse but i mean i i've been a part of large organizations for so much of my life that you

01:04:55.580 have to trust if anyone if andy frisella can run all of first form completely by himself there'd be

01:05:02.580 no need for these hundreds of employees here right you know so no one can do anything this complex and

01:05:07.820 great you know on their own um in the racing car there is something that is just i don't want to say

01:05:14.320 it's balls or blind faith like when the engineer is telling you hey um the porsche curves you can enter

01:05:21.080 that you know at 140 and you're like okay that sounds good and then you arrive there in the real

01:05:29.380 car and you're or i'd say even first on the simulator we do try things first on the simulator

01:05:33.920 and like okay the engineer says 140 miles an hour at this corner and you arrive there and you're like

01:05:39.000 160 170 flat and you think oh my let me tell you it's a hard corner and you break and you downshift

01:05:45.820 twice and you turn you look down you're like 110 and you're and you're thinking oh gosh i'm on the

01:05:50.680 limit here and you go back to your notes and goes wait 140 he said um okay let's try again you know

01:05:56.600 and and you crash and you crash and you crash and you're like called engineer back like hey man

01:06:01.000 um questioning i know you said you know so the simulator helps with these types of things then

01:06:09.420 you arrive to le mans and you get there for the first test day because this this track is mostly

01:06:14.680 country roads it's there's there's only a small bit of it that's like a proper racing track

01:06:19.100 and then you're using the rest of the country roads in france and this again the race is 100 years

01:06:24.720 old right um but 100 years ago they only raced on on the country road so you can't just go here and

01:06:30.880 practice anytime you want they they only close the roads for this you know one race a year and so

01:06:35.880 you're flying down the road the first time like the first practice day and the track's always dirty

01:06:40.620 at the first time because it's a it's a it's a normal highway there's trash on the sides and stuff

01:06:44.820 right and you go flying towards that corner and man let me tell you you know yes you do have to

01:06:49.740 have a lot of faith in in your engineers and what they tell you is capable of the car and and uh that

01:06:55.360 takes some time i mean that that takes you gotta you gotta make like is he lying to me is he sure

01:07:00.360 like how sure is he dude it takes a little bit from an amateur very amateur perspective

01:07:05.920 i found it very helpful to have someone telling me what to do when i was 100 when i when i was yeah

01:07:13.320 because like dude for me at a very amateur very very amateur level now

01:07:19.560 i you almost have to have someone telling you what to do because you have no idea what the

01:07:27.500 car will do and if you trust them you'll be fast we we have a ton of data you know these cars

01:07:33.740 collect like you at all when you and i drove you can i'm i'm just like you i'm much more comfortable

01:07:38.500 if i can see that okay another driver on the same day on the same car he broke at this point i'm

01:07:45.700 braking earlier the guy didn't crash he made it you know i'm a i'm i've been able to just get myself

01:07:52.180 wrapped around rather quickly what one man can do another man can do right so but i'm usually not

01:07:57.160 the first person to go do it in some of these situations i let you know my teammate does it now

01:08:04.120 the good thing is there's a lot of like amateur drivers that you can show them the data over and

01:08:08.460 over and they'll spend a week a day like going there and they'll never make it to the breaking

01:08:12.760 point right i've been really quick i like i'm real quick if you show me hey brian your teammate

01:08:18.260 breaks here at the 50 it doesn't take me four laps or three like i go the next lap i i will

01:08:23.200 the learning curve is short it's very short yeah i inherently know what one man can do another man

01:08:27.740 can do so that's whether that's stupidity bravery you know i don't know but i've just i've arrived

01:08:33.160 wouldn't you say though like that's one of the most important elements to in i mean

01:08:38.580 to in to becoming a great driver quickly it's it's easy to say it right so yeah let me tell you when

01:08:46.060 you like on like in this world of simulators right um they're awesome by the way i mean these

01:08:51.400 simulators are actually really really good um but there's always that element on the simulator

01:08:55.940 you can always just hit that magic reset button after you crash and it costs no money yeah you're

01:09:01.580 you don't have to go to the hospital you know and you yeah you know you can reset when you arrive at

01:09:05.940 the real car there's real consequences you know and you're this real speed and that's a real concrete

01:09:09.980 wall right there you know that's the difference everyone can say oh yeah break at the 50 meter mark

01:09:17.580 no problem you know easier some people can do it and some some people can't yeah i mean dude it's

01:09:24.440 a parallel to business too i mean how fast can you learn how fast can you how fast can you can you

01:09:29.140 watch someone else do something and then know that you can do it too or do you say oh but he's an

01:09:35.100 anomaly or that's a special circumstance or we're not them you know because none of that shit is true

01:09:41.600 dude it just isn't you've got to be able to learn quick another thing in business that relates

01:09:47.120 is a lot of people don't realize a race car if you drive it for one hour on one set of tires

01:09:52.660 and you see a racing driver who can run virtually the same lap time for over the one hour or very

01:09:58.780 very close to it that is such an unbelievable skill set because the tires are consistently wearing out

01:10:05.060 every lap that you go the tire has less grip and when you go for one hour let me tell you those last

01:10:10.640 five laps at the end is so incredibly hard because it's like driving on ice there's literally like

01:10:17.860 no grip left in the tire and for you to achieve anywhere close to the lap time that you did

01:10:23.380 at the first of the few laps is really really hard it is possible because when you start at the first

01:10:29.800 lap you have a full tank of fuel fuel weighs a lot when you know you have it all right the fuel is burning

01:10:35.340 off over the hour so the car is actually getting lighter as the time goes on but the grip is going

01:10:41.100 away so you start with a lot of grip super security but you're just slow because it's kind of heavy and

01:10:46.040 sluggish then the car gets super light and nimble but you have no grip towards the end the best drivers

01:10:51.540 can achieve a similar lap time all the way across there's a big parallel on you know in business and

01:10:57.420 right when when the conditions are perfect and everything's fine and everything's and you and you can

01:11:02.460 achieve one result in you're in sales in the month of may and you can achieve a good result being able

01:11:08.160 to achieve that same result maybe in the month of january where you know or when it's a different

01:11:13.020 trend it's a different yeah this is more difficult right it's a skill set so there's the the only

01:11:19.740 constant is change right and that's for sure in racing and for sure in business you know it's just

01:11:25.100 another reason why i love it so much in life right you what what you can do now doesn't mean you can do it

01:11:30.980 later and if you really if you really develop the skill set it is possible yeah man it takes and

01:11:36.580 the really the really really great championship people actually perform much better when the

01:11:45.500 circumstances are much more difficult so dude the best drivers yeah when it rains they're great

01:11:52.280 they're everyone talks about airton senna yeah man in the rain i don't care what driver you ask

01:11:57.400 driving a race car in the rain with like slick tires you we do have rain tires you can put on but

01:12:02.980 a lot of times it's dry and then the rain comes but you have the dry tires on let me tell you dry

01:12:09.440 tires on a wet track i can't explain to you how slick it i mean you you can think to touch the gas pedal

01:12:17.120 you don't actually do it just your brain thinks i wonder if i should hit the gas now bam you're

01:12:20.940 spun out backwards in the wall i mean it's so difficult and airton senna was like he was the

01:12:26.760 man you know in the rain and the the the feel that it takes i don't he was unworldly okay um but man

01:12:34.740 that's a this is also like a you know another analogy like sometimes i mean out of the blue it can it can

01:12:41.080 rain yeah right you know and it's chaos it goes from fucking everything perfect conditions everything's

01:12:46.420 good yeah and then it's chaos and a lot in the driving world a lot of drivers are so the right

01:12:50.680 oh god it's raining and we have to pit we have to pit now and you know the picker is like dude you

01:12:55.900 can pit we're going to go to last place like survive you know can you survive in le mans it's super

01:13:01.740 specific le mans the racetrack is like over eight miles long it's almost nine miles all the time when

01:13:07.140 it rains in le mans it very rarely rains the whole track the track is so big it can usually rain only in

01:13:13.220 one section and the pit crew they all know that they have radar and everything coming so you arrive

01:13:18.100 and you're like i've done it i've arrived like oh my god if we have to pit now it's like monsoon

01:13:23.140 they're like ah you got to survive ryan if you can make it past tetra rouge or what the next sector

01:13:28.320 it's actually dry and you're like you know and i remember this was last year it came huge rain at

01:13:34.980 towards the end of the lap and i mean i was surviving i was surviving and a lot of the guys i was racing

01:13:39.260 with they all peeled into the pit lane and and our guys told me to stay out like it's going to dry up

01:13:44.660 i mean i didn't question them but i did ask like are you sure like everyone's going in and they're

01:13:51.640 like no trust me and sure enough we cycled to the lead everyone came in for wet tires i made it you

01:13:58.060 know several corners later and there and then it was the sun so we kept going and man we made a big lead

01:14:03.360 right then because all the guys that came for wet tires guess what they had to do when the rain stopped

01:14:08.280 they had to come back into the pits again to get dries again so it's such a good parallel for

01:14:13.080 business it because things can change yeah dude because the people who truly get ahead in business

01:14:18.700 and who win are people that when the chaos comes they don't freak the fuck out stay the course yeah

01:14:25.740 they keep moving and actually you know if if there i think you know there is an element of being wired for

01:14:32.640 that but the best operators that i've seen and probably the best drivers that you've seen

01:14:38.400 are very similar and that they will make a map like

01:14:43.180 it's kind of it's kind of a paradox

01:14:48.280 people who are truly great at what they do when things are perfect will you usually be hyper almost

01:14:57.440 insane about how much better it should be yeah but then when shit gets fucking crazy

01:15:05.280 those people calm down dude they're suit they're like ice super calm chaos is happening tragedy happened

01:15:13.100 the storm came out of nowhere on the racetrack the storm came out of nowhere in your business

01:15:18.620 but it's here and those people they they go from being like almost hyper aggressive and like

01:15:26.560 annoying and intolerable in terms of like their aggressiveness and their you know like

01:15:32.120 yeah fuck we gotta look out for this or that or this to like hey everything's good yep we're good

01:15:37.120 we gotta just gotta do this and this and this and i think that's a trait i don't know if that's

01:15:41.680 something that i don't know if that's something that people can learn but i do believe you can get

01:15:47.260 better at it yeah because it takes an actual effort yeah everything in your body what i mean is panic

01:15:52.840 yeah like you i don't know if it's something you can become great great at without having it

01:15:58.780 be wired into you but i do think it's something that people can get better at yeah i would agree

01:16:06.220 i mean i would agree there's like um like you know we all erton senna for sure this guy was born

01:16:13.240 with some things that that other humans just haven't been born with um i tell you like and

01:16:18.000 i'm this way in business on the racetrack when it starts raining i immediately get excited yeah deep

01:16:25.400 in i know this it's about now i can make a difference yeah dude and the business is the same it's the same

01:16:31.620 like fucking everybody's getting like dude in a bad economy or a you know uh like like covid like

01:16:38.480 covid comes everybody freaks the fuck out what are we gonna do my my main thought when covid happened

01:16:45.000 and i know it was yours too because we talked through it was like all right dude everybody else

01:16:50.220 is gonna fuck up yep we can jump miles ahead yep we can pass a lot of and by the way both of us did

01:16:55.560 in our businesses right yep uh it's it's uh man it's it's there's we always talk about there's two

01:17:02.140 types of drivers i think there's also two types of entrepreneurs yeah when the rain comes it's either

01:17:07.760 oh shit yeah we have to pit we're like oh god what are we gonna do and then there's those that smell

01:17:13.360 the blood in the water yeah yeah and let's be fair we we both have tremendously talented and skilled

01:17:19.160 people around us too that are also that way yep you know there's so you got justin i got sal and

01:17:25.180 jason and chris and yeah and then each other a common trade amongst all those people yeah they're

01:17:29.860 all great operators that i think they also if they were on the racetrack and it started raining yeah

01:17:34.680 they'd be like this is it yeah you know um i've heard chris is a terrible driver though uh chris is

01:17:40.260 i don't know i i can't tell if chris is a great driver or a terrible driver but i know this

01:17:46.360 i hate riding with him i fucking hate it yeah yeah there's something about his his casual nature

01:17:54.640 of driving very fast that almost i'm like you don't know what you're doing here do you like i'm

01:18:04.440 not a good passenger almost bro no do you drive like okay like how how hard is it for you to leave

01:18:11.140 the track at the track when you're driving down i'm i'm i'm always pretty good i i know i'm always

01:18:17.660 pretty good i tell you i there's there's two people around me uh they're usually with me at

01:18:22.320 the racetracks all the time one's my father he's uh comes to a lot of races and he's the worst at

01:18:27.340 this uh the other's justin he's there they'll be at a long race you know whatever eight hour race

01:18:32.260 24 hour race and no matter what the situation is usually i'm a bit tired afterwards and so i'm not

01:18:37.780 driving the rental car back to the airport or wherever we're going i already know where this

01:18:41.180 is going my dad my dad is like when he gets it's like it's his stint man he's in like he is fired

01:18:47.960 up dude i mean we are like breaking every traffic rule he slams on the brakes like coming into the

01:18:53.920 corners you know and we're like dad bro like it's easy he's like no it's it's fine i've just you know

01:18:59.220 but and he says it because i've been watching racing the last 24 hours like i'm ready to go you know

01:19:03.740 you should have taken a turn like this oh dude that's hilarious apexes you know i'm like dad bro

01:19:09.220 like if the race is over man it's all good that's funny uh that's hilarious good looking car though

01:19:15.360 oh yeah oh well dude that's a whole nother thing we could talk about we we developed that that was

01:19:20.800 our that's been our strategy i mean the blue you know obviously this is the first form blue in our

01:19:26.340 panto back i mean every i'm sure everybody that drives any kind of race car says oh mine's the best

01:19:31.140 looking car but i mean we had we get so many compliments from fans that this is the

01:19:37.080 baddest ass looking race car and we get so many comments on like how bright it is and the sun

01:19:42.500 it shows up so bright you can see our car like on tv it just it picks up the light so well and

01:19:48.520 you could definitely see even when it's just panning across yeah you can always see the first

01:19:52.700 car you know this year my wife and son got the opportunity at le mans to ride in the goodyear blimp

01:19:58.920 they they got to go up during the race was going on and they have these videos from the blimp of you

01:20:04.120 know the cars coming by and dude you can see our coming our car coming like all the way down the

01:20:08.560 mole sign yeah coming out of you know it's so bright you know but um it's become iconic now i think you

01:20:13.760 know we're building something uh that'll be looked back on and you know especially now we're gonna have

01:20:19.860 three different porsches that have won the three largest races in the world uh you know and and the

01:20:26.780 fact they were all blue they're all slightly different in design we changed the design a

01:20:29.980 little bit but they're all the blue first form porsche you know well dude it's like we talked

01:20:34.020 you know when we first started the first few years we switched the livery every year yeah we were kind

01:20:39.660 of trying to find our way about you know where we wanted to be and then i can remember you and i

01:20:44.940 talking extensively because we're both hyper detailed about this that like we wanted specifically

01:20:53.020 to develop a look and feel to the car that would be lasting and iconic yeah so for talked about

01:21:02.780 richard petty's car yeah yeah so like if you don't ask car everybody knows the number 43 stp car

01:21:09.880 from all the way from the 60s till now yep and that was kind of our goal is to create

01:21:16.320 a livery that yeah it might change a little bit yeah but you know 20 years from now they're going to

01:21:22.980 have hot wheels and models and you know right everybody knows that car dude yes no matter what

01:21:29.600 driver ever drives that car in livery that's the that's a richard petty that's right stp yeah but

01:21:35.540 i think we're doing a good job i mean i i can tell you now we're racing we raced in asia this year we

01:21:40.600 raced in the asian lamar series uh raced in abu dhabi you know in the middle east uh and in the world

01:21:45.980 endurance championship was which is what lamar is a part of um which that's the next goal by the way you

01:21:51.680 asked when you're doing after the laws to win the world championship uh but in this championship that

01:21:57.120 we're in you know we're racing in europe we race once here in america we race in japan we race in

01:22:01.840 the middle east and this car even when we arrive even if people aren't as familiar with first form or

01:22:07.600 but they know they like oh this that's the blue first form porsche they do they know about it that's

01:22:12.240 the first form porsche that's what you know fans japanese it's so cool to be in japan or to be in the

01:22:17.980 middle east and people associate it you know that's why i knew that man we've created you know

01:22:23.760 we're not done no but we are doing a good job along the way of creating a brand and a association

01:22:31.920 porsche is a big part of it yeah you know but we're creating this association of the bright blue well

01:22:37.300 dude and what a better i mean there's not a better brand to be attached to i mean porsche is the most

01:22:42.760 the world's most valuable luxury brand people a lot of people don't know that yeah i you know to me

01:22:48.540 they're i mean obviously i have a biased opinion but uh and you and i are both fans of lots of cars

01:22:53.500 yeah i mean uh you know but i don't think we would i don't think either one of us would debate over who

01:22:58.000 makes the best car i mean for me from line to line if you're gonna only have one car yeah if there

01:23:04.780 could only be one i truly think a porsche 911 we can all we you and i would disagree on which one

01:23:10.640 which one yeah there's but i agree versions but if you had to you know go to the grocery store

01:23:16.060 and you know maybe you know and also turn up at the racetrack and do a good lap time and

01:23:20.520 drive a back country road and somewhat be comfortable drive across country what i would

01:23:25.080 i would choose a there's no question the design hasn't changed since the since the early 70s late

01:23:31.160 60s people like our racing car i mean it's yeah it's gotten longer wider there's some different

01:23:36.740 things but yeah it's the same formula basically now just while we're on the topic because you've

01:23:41.600 owned all the 911s i've owned most of the 911s which one's your favorite

01:23:46.240 it's a tough one but i if i had to pick one i do really like the 997 uh model which was my favorite

01:23:59.840 is the last year it was made 2011 2011 um i like both the gt3 rs 4.0 that year and also the gt2 rs

01:24:08.900 turbo but those two cars the physical size of the car yeah was much smaller than what we have now

01:24:14.920 and to me it was just the most balanced you know the 2 rs with the turbo is the fastest it has the

01:24:21.460 most power the 3 rs it's naturally aspirated i just either one of the i would say that's my favorite

01:24:28.140 i think they're i mean those are both justifiable as hot picks yeah yeah yeah they've gotten more

01:24:34.140 comfortable bigger but to me that was the best i've also owned both those cars and i i yeah so

01:24:41.540 what's yours dude you know i i i think the 991 2 rs my you know my acid green car yeah that that to me

01:24:51.040 even though you know the purist will say oh it's pdk it's not manual yeah still the amount of power

01:24:58.080 that the car makes and the nimbleness of the car yep for me feels right um you know the other cars

01:25:06.660 they can be underpowered that's what i'm saying they feel slow to me and and it you know that's

01:25:11.860 not that's just because of the the other shit that we get to drive yeah right like we both have

01:25:17.640 the fastest cars in the world you've got a super sport chiron i've got the pure sport yeah you know

01:25:23.800 everything feels like once you're once you've driven a p1 and once you've driven a super sport

01:25:30.100 or a pure sport everything feels slow like slow slow and then like but that but that 911 still feels

01:25:37.000 quick and uh and that's what i think i like about it because even with the 2 rs manual uh the 997

01:25:44.160 it still felt you know people like oh the widow maker yeah to who you know like yeah that's how it

01:25:50.620 felt to me at the time maybe yeah right yeah yeah i still like them i think they're great cars um

01:25:56.460 but yeah that's that's what i would pick it's a it's impossible i get that question all the time

01:26:00.600 like what's your favorite or can you only pick one i mean that's what's so great about cars they're

01:26:04.200 all they're all so different and uh hopefully no one has to pick just one you know or whatnot but

01:26:09.400 it's a great question you know yeah man they're just they're they are so different there

01:26:14.020 there are so many i think we both agree on what the greatest porsche is though

01:26:18.420 yeah i mean yeah probably the greatest car carrera gt i mean which is cool because i actually own

01:26:23.860 his old carrera gt that's where i got mine from and then he got a different one i had to get a

01:26:29.080 different one yeah i made you know we all make mistakes right now i made i had a lapse in judgment

01:26:34.060 once yeah no takesy-backsies yeah but i was fortunate to be able to you know years later get

01:26:40.620 another one i realized you know how great of a car but yeah you call me like man i'm wanting to buy

01:26:44.840 a carrera gt you're like oh so you know shit man i was thinking about selling mine i'm like

01:26:48.700 done done yeah shortest call yeah because it was dude it was the color i wanted everything

01:26:54.040 yeah black i'm black yeah no that car's that car's special so dude you know switching from

01:26:59.640 you know really what we what we came here to talk about um let's talk about lamar dude you know this

01:27:07.760 yeah a week two weeks ago yeah yeah yeah um so this was our third year you know attempting it and

01:27:13.580 i'll say i came in to this race i don't think you ever expect to to win a race like this i mean

01:27:19.780 you you know we surrounded ourselves with what i think is the best team they were the defending

01:27:24.040 champions uh from lamar the the year before did the grello car win last year no it was it was uh it

01:27:30.700 was uh just it wasn't the grello they said the grello car only they run with only top factory

01:27:35.980 drivers like at the nurburgring yeah okay no it wasn't the grello but it was their team yeah i was

01:27:40.860 with a different you know bronze driver who was it was the best they they last year they won the

01:27:45.420 championship uh you know manti porsche and uh they also won the mom and so uh my teammate uh richard

01:27:52.600 leitz who uh was also my teammate in daytona when we won the 24 hours of daytona um he won

01:27:59.320 lamar last year with manti and uh when i came you know back had the opportunity to come back with

01:28:05.360 man time bring you know first form uh richie was uh available to come be my teammate he's won two in

01:28:11.460 a row yeah so he's won lamar two years in a row and richie's the guy in the middle there um he's

01:28:17.020 now one of the winningest drivers ever at lamar he has won lamar six times holy shit uh won it six

01:28:23.000 times um he's been on the podium several other times but i think the winningest driver is won it

01:28:29.140 seven times so he's won away from tying that record um but yeah he's won two years in a row so

01:28:34.920 anyway i knew like how old is he richie is just about our age yeah he probably won't like me don't

01:28:42.080 yeah he's like he he had a great response in the press conference like richie what do you have to be

01:28:47.600 to you know win lamar six times in a row and he said well the first thing you have to be is very old

01:28:52.440 i've been doing it so many times but uh no man richie uh you know having him it's special you

01:29:02.220 know where i won daytona with him and then i was able to have him as my teammate you know coming here

01:29:06.660 man i knew i had the co-drivers um also the third driver we have on our team uh his name's ricardo

01:29:13.460 para he's a silver rated driver um we i mean do we we went after this guy trying to get ricardo

01:29:20.600 as our third driver you know uh pretty ambitiously he he's been uh the last couple years he's been

01:29:26.720 one of the fastest drivers at lamar specifically so like he's a bit of a specialist i mean he's a

01:29:32.320 great driver he's italian he's won many races and championships around the world but at lamar he's

01:29:37.140 like he's like the man on sheer speed so uh we put this team together uh with with this race like

01:29:44.100 specifically in mind you know richie's one at the most ricardo's one of the quickest and and then me

01:29:49.880 coming in i've as as bronze drivers you know i've been one of the top in the world last few years so

01:29:54.700 um any team i don't know if you know the rules in lamar uh all drivers are rated by category and

01:30:02.020 it's based on experience right you know we're all professionals but it's based on experience you got

01:30:06.660 to have one uh gold or platinum rated driver it could be either one platinum is reserved for like

01:30:12.840 formula one you know drivers or if you work directly for a manufacturer um richard leitz is platinum

01:30:18.020 uh you have to have one silver rated driver and you have to have one bronze rated driver

01:30:22.360 and they're exactly what you mean i'm the bronze rated driver i would have the least experience of

01:30:26.920 these guys on the team ricardo's a silver and the the trick in racing is you we're all trying to be

01:30:33.160 the absolute best in our category right if i get a little too like for me if i were to ever become

01:30:39.020 silver one day i would not be very valuable as a driver because there's lots of really really great

01:30:43.400 silvers same with ricardo like when you go kind of you step to that next level you're still on the

01:30:48.660 bottom tier you kind of could be on the bottom tier of the next level so every team's trying to

01:30:52.900 get the absolute best bronze and the absolute best silver and the absolute best platinum you know at

01:30:57.680 that specific time and um i think we achieved that i think i've i've i think my performance i've been

01:31:04.480 right up there in the top three or so bronzes in the world last uh you know few years and ricardo i think

01:31:09.880 is definitely on that verge of probably becoming a gold real soon and so we got a good combination

01:31:14.920 here but yeah the week started like we we were decent uh there in our class is the largest category

01:31:23.220 there's uh 24 cars in the in the class um all different manufacturers and we were kind of in

01:31:29.420 the practice sessions hovering around the back half of the top 10 really we were each time between like

01:31:34.600 5th to 10th um better than the average but dude we were like everyone knew it from the start uh the

01:31:42.860 ferrari and the lexus which is actually a toyota but the lexus were just like so fast i mean they

01:31:50.720 had they had more top speed than everybody else their lap times were the best like everyone was

01:31:56.060 talking about it through the the practice sessions and i mean they were a lot faster than us and we were

01:32:01.340 pushing i mean we were all out you know and you kind of can never tell in practice or or everyone

01:32:06.080 just or people holding back they don't want to show their whole cards just yet you know and so you

01:32:10.940 don't really know we were kind of leaning we were we were kind of showing it and we the talks just went

01:32:17.320 into hey this might not be our year you know porsche won last year this year let's get good points for

01:32:22.680 the championship even though these guys are fast you know like we said in 24 hours a lot of shit can

01:32:27.020 happen a lot of fast cars can have issues and break but our goal for sure was the podium we we

01:32:32.940 thought if we executed perfectly and we made no mistakes we would have a shot at the podium but

01:32:38.180 that was realistically the goal i definitely wasn't calling you or calling homes like hey man this is a

01:32:42.380 year but we're gonna smoke these guys so that i mean that was our mindset you know going in and uh we

01:32:47.640 got to qualifying um uh we we had a good qualifying i you each driver has to qualify the the bronze has to

01:32:54.500 qualify than the silver than the gold and you you kind of it's an elimination style kind of like

01:32:59.440 formula one um i qualified p3 um and was really close to the top you know it was a bit surprising

01:33:07.020 you know um ricardo did the same he qualified p3 out of the silvers uh and then richard went with all

01:33:12.920 the platinums and golds and he was p5 but they were all like like super super close so it was actually

01:33:18.500 like the closest we had been you know uh to the to the front um so that's where we started the race

01:33:23.960 was from fifth you start where the final um where the platinums you know qualify so yeah we started

01:33:29.960 from fifth so yeah that was our goal i mean we just we thought the the podium would be kind of the the

01:33:35.520 goal but i would say we spent the first six hours of the race well how how how close just so people

01:33:44.220 understand it's eight mile track yep okay how close are the times from qualifying first to third to fifth

01:33:53.100 oh um i mean we can pull it uh but uh just off the top of my head a really fast uh qualifying lap time

01:34:00.860 if you're going under four minutes is is is really fast i want to say our uh pole laps were in the

01:34:07.180 uh close to 355 yeah okay and the i mean the top i know my qualifying that i was p3 the top

01:34:16.740 11 or 12 we're all within the same second okay so we're within tenths sometimes hundreds okay of a

01:34:25.460 second so that's what i'm trying to from the perspective i'm trying to let everybody understand

01:34:29.660 yes you're talking about an eight mile course there's 32 corners so 32 opportunities to break

01:34:37.120 and accelerate you know or not right and the top 11 cars are in the 355 mark within the same second

01:34:43.940 yeah yeah so we're we i got it right here we're constantly pushing for yeah tenths of a second

01:34:53.680 yeah so that's that's just so you guys that don't know racing yeah that's how close it is

01:34:59.840 and we get a lot of questions i get a lot of guys like hey what's the difference in a bronze like ryan

01:35:05.440 versus you know a platinum like richie and lamar is a bigger track obviously at three minutes most of

01:35:12.240 our tracks are much shorter right um but you know the difference from me to richie was probably

01:35:17.980 one ish second what is this is ours man tie i did a 357 two and richie did a 355 one yeah richie's

01:35:29.740 the last yeah yeah so yeah within two seconds that's crazy yeah it's because most tracks i'm within one

01:35:38.060 second of richie but that's also about a two minute lap time so this is a four minute lap yeah so here

01:35:42.280 i was uh under two seconds i was 1.9 seconds from the guy who's probably one of the greatest drivers

01:35:49.460 in the world you know so that's what it takes to you know be a be the least experienced guy you got

01:35:56.760 to still be within like one second of right of the of the top you know yeah um oh bro and got but

01:36:04.700 here's the thing how long has richie been racing oh his whole life okay yeah so you got a guy yeah

01:36:10.480 just so we understand just i think this is important to point out you got a guy that's

01:36:14.780 probably been racing since go-karts okay his whole life

01:36:18.600 and you have a guy who's been racing for less than 10 years nine nine years who's one within you know

01:36:27.140 right there next to him so like what most guys will spend this is the point that needs to be made

01:36:33.120 most guys will spend their entire life trying to make that time up that gap between richie and ryan

01:36:40.600 they will spend their entire life to get to make up that less than a second or one second or two

01:36:47.300 seconds most most you know never will that's how close that's how that's how precise and close racing

01:36:53.160 really is what what i've found what's so crazy what i've found is you know through like you know nine

01:36:58.960 years yeah you can get i mean i'm so i can get within a second okay over two and and dude we're

01:37:04.820 talking one second spread out over 20 corners yeah i mean bro is uh it's less than it like hundreds of

01:37:12.140 a difference in the braking and the acceleration right in in each corner right less obviously less

01:37:17.360 than a blink if you were watching a video of their feet right next to each other it would look

01:37:21.960 virtually identical look identical yeah look identical um and then what i've found is you

01:37:27.120 can get within that second but let me tell you the last half a second the last five tenths this is what

01:37:34.180 takes a lifetime yeah these the guys that that do this at that at that that have dedicated their life

01:37:40.740 they dedicated their entire life to a half a second a half a second more than what someone who could

01:37:46.580 come in much later in life can do it and let me tell you that last half second yeah it's hard yeah

01:37:52.480 it's very hard it's very very hard i just think i just think it's important to point that out

01:37:57.560 that because like as an average you know i flip on the television and then there's a race cars going

01:38:02.680 around the track you don't think about it like that yeah yeah i mean we're we're going a lot of times

01:38:07.660 you know you watch the video back and you look at the data and you're like golly i'm you know one second

01:38:12.360 or nine tenths like where could it be it's never in one spot or two spots it's it's fractionally

01:38:18.900 around you know yeah you know each corner and then to be able to do that and execute it like we said

01:38:23.700 over an entire hour with tires changing fuel changing weather changing temperature changing

01:38:29.300 that's one hour yeah then times 24 yeah but in the middle of the night yeah it's it's it's that's

01:38:35.780 where the skill set comes in so we start the race

01:38:40.780 i say i can break down pretty soon i yeah this was honestly a pretty straightforward race you know

01:38:47.220 when it's kind of going your way you kind of it's kind of going your way we fit we spent the first

01:38:50.740 six hours i would say in the top five and um kind of kind of i don't want to say you ran four hour

01:38:57.840 stint yeah i start the race four hours in a row i did the only quadruple stint in the entire race no

01:39:03.160 one else did a quadruple stint um i'll say it wasn't planned well yeah the plan was for me to run a

01:39:09.120 triple which that's about it's pretty hard that's pretty hard and a lot of a lot of guys most guys

01:39:14.780 will run double cent so like two hours at a time it was planned for me to do a triple my physical

01:39:19.840 fitness has been strong you know i'd say compared to most other drivers uh so you know it's been a

01:39:25.480 strength of ours and they knew the the more i could drive towards the start saves our fastest drivers

01:39:31.460 for the end and save some more fresh right so they called me at hour three and i was we're hanging

01:39:37.200 around that top five you know and like hey ryan you know how are you feeling in the car i'm like

01:39:41.140 man i'll be honest with you like i'm feeling pretty good like we're and i you know it's fun when you

01:39:45.120 see the you know you see the leaders and we're doing well and and i'm like man i feel great you

01:39:49.900 know if you guys if it helps like i'm good to do another one and they they said let us come back to

01:39:54.660 you and they rummaged around i guess for a little while they came back like hey man if you're okay like

01:39:58.660 it would be a big advantage if you could do you know four and uh so man if it's an advantage let's go

01:40:04.760 and um i did it it was it was awesome we we gained a lot of space there and what that did that set off

01:40:10.980 i think what it eventually helped us win the race yeah a lot of the other teams as we got towards the

01:40:17.720 night they had to put in their bronze drivers in because they were running their faster drivers

01:40:21.800 early where we had saved we put in our you know platinum you know and silver drivers against a lot

01:40:28.920 of their bronzes so um that enabled us to jump up quite a bit and then the next thing that did

01:40:35.600 a big difference was the night time i mean the night at le mans is some of the most difficult you

01:40:41.520 can ask any driver i mean it's not like daytona the 24 hours of daytona i'm not going to sit here

01:40:46.660 and tell you it's easy it's not easy okay but as far as driving in the night it's extremely well lit

01:40:52.120 it's damn near the daytime i mean all the big you know from the speedway you've got all the lights

01:40:56.920 from nascar and it's basically like driving in the day let me tell you something the back country roads

01:41:02.720 in uh the mid west of france uh are not well lit like my first year when i went out for the first

01:41:11.420 night practice i came out of the pit lane the pit lane it's all lit up so it's like the racing track

01:41:16.340 there so it's like daytona it's all lit and you go the first three corners it's all lit and then you

01:41:20.320 you merge out onto the mulsanne straight and this is where you leave the the racing track and go on the

01:41:25.800 go on the country roads and i was you know radio silence for a little while and i'm driving down

01:41:31.080 the mulsanne straight i went to the first chicane then i'm on my way to the second chicane and i

01:41:35.780 called on the radio and i'm like guys it is dark

01:41:38.980 i can't explain to you guys is this supposed to be this way you can watch all the video like we have

01:41:48.340 video you can go on youtube and watch my videos are on youtube right now you can watch uh you know my

01:41:53.120 laps and stuff at night um and you have a like oh yeah it kind of looks dark but it'll probably be

01:41:58.440 okay like bro what what got me is that you know we have headlights but the headlights obviously they

01:42:05.160 shine in front of you right well when you're on a racetrack and you're about to come to a corner

01:42:09.160 the front of you is fine you can see out there but all the time like during the day you you need

01:42:13.980 to see where you break but then your eyes are going to the corner so let's say it's a right hand

01:42:18.200 corner your eyes are going over to the right looking for the apex well bro it is it's pitch

01:42:24.360 black dark you know so you're you're breaking and you look and you're like um i think we turn now

01:42:30.500 you turn and then the headlights move and they're like nope too early yeah you know further so you

01:42:37.100 have to it's nothing but time you have to develop time and you have to look at things on the road that

01:42:43.060 you can see like right in front of you to give you visual clues of where the turn-in spot is you can

01:42:48.960 see the break points like there's you recognize signs and different things on the road to where

01:42:53.160 you know where you have to break but the turn-in point this has to come from just muscle memory and

01:42:59.860 feeling and stuff so uh anyway back to my original story driving at the night is very difficult most

01:43:05.980 bronze drivers don't drive at night most teams they drive their bronze drivers a little bit in the day

01:43:10.220 at start and then they put in their silvers and their platinums to go back and forth back and forth

01:43:15.160 all night long and then when the sun comes up the next day the bronzes go in you know when it's the

01:43:20.580 sun is back out i drove those four hours to start that helped get us ahead and then i drove it gets

01:43:27.000 dark kind of late there around 10 o'clock at night actually it's pretty it's the summer solstice so

01:43:31.580 longest day of the year i drove going into the night so as the sun was going down i drove from

01:43:36.820 10 to about midnight where no other bronze driver was out there then and i came out for just a

01:43:42.580 couple hours and i went back in at 3 30 a.m and i drove from 3 30 into the sun coming up some comes

01:43:49.960 up kind of early around 5 30 so i did like a it was a triple stint that went into the sun and again

01:43:57.240 no other bronze drivers out there we were in the top three both those times we were in third second

01:44:01.520 first and like the team was on the radio like ryan your pace is is doing great um like the ferrari had

01:44:09.240 caught me we were in second the ferrari caught me it had their platinum driver in it and they're like

01:44:13.280 ryan this is the platinum don't don't like no don't risk anything if he's faster just don't fight let

01:44:20.400 him go because they still have to do like four hours of their bronze driving we'll catch him and

01:44:25.680 you're done in the next hour like you're you know so i did the most driving at night which ended up

01:44:31.740 being like a major step forward because then when the sun came up i was done like i had completed all

01:44:37.700 my i have to drive like seven and a half or eight hours of the 24 i was done and every other team still

01:44:44.340 had their bronzes had to come in and bro we went straight to the front we passed with a lead when the

01:44:49.800 sun was coming up uh and then we led the entire rest of the race you know so which is a huge advantage

01:44:56.120 because it keeps you out of the shit oh yeah oh leading is always better yeah and in the back but

01:45:01.880 yeah that's pretty much how the race went so dude what was it like you know when we won i mean i know

01:45:09.900 what it was like because for me but like i mean what was it like dude man that dude the i mean i had

01:45:15.840 a similar feeling in daytona you know but when you know we were leading we had a big lead but you're

01:45:20.600 constantly counting down every minute every hour and the the the factory ferrari was in second and

01:45:28.280 they were the only car towards the end of the race that really had the speed they were again they

01:45:31.880 were the fastest since we had turned up and man i'm like golly if anything happens to the car and

01:45:36.640 this ferrari is super fast and uh but we had this kind of manageable about one minute lead you know

01:45:42.380 that we just kind of managed all the way through so you're obviously worried about something just

01:45:46.640 like by chance happening to the car a flat tire a mechanical issue but our car was perfect you know

01:45:53.540 the whole time again back to that preparation work but dude i would say the last stint for richie which

01:46:01.300 was right at an hour like probably 50 minutes to go we did our final pit stop and our engineer

01:46:06.860 was super good on the team he's talking to the pit crew before you know richie was coming in for

01:46:12.800 the final pit stop he's like guys this is the last one you know for the whole 24 hours make sure every

01:46:18.260 wheel gun is perfect fuel man make sure test the fuel the fuel flow make sure it's perfect take your

01:46:24.800 time we're normally trying to do it as fast as we can right he's like we have a one minute lead we gave

01:46:29.840 up at like what 20 30 seconds we gave up almost almost 25 seconds because we re he said take your

01:46:37.320 time make sure the wheels are torqued we even added a bit of oil to the engine just uh we didn't have

01:46:42.320 to just just a precaution you know took our time with the fuel flow looked over the car just and then

01:46:48.540 set him out you know so we we lost some of that minute lead but on purpose right just keeping everyone

01:46:53.200 calm but yeah i was there with my my son was sitting right next to me my oldest son uh and my wife

01:46:59.820 you know whitney was there my dad was in the garage justin and man dude i was like i was i

01:47:04.740 mean you know i couldn't stop shaking my feet i'd stand up sit down walk around go back up drink

01:47:08.940 an energy drink i mean like i'm pacing because that always helps yeah yeah calm me down you know

01:47:14.460 definitely not an ad uh yeah yeah um but dude it was it was it was awesome i mean i you know yeah

01:47:21.180 i'd i'd never thought you know we could win this race i mean just just to come and compete in it

01:47:26.160 you know that's one thing but uh yeah when he when he crossed the line i mean dude it just the

01:47:31.300 garage erupted uh you know i lost it those i'll get my son and my wife you know it's just it's you

01:47:37.360 know for me it's like you know you dedicate your life to you know perfection and we all want to be

01:47:42.780 perfect right you know we're all trying to leave a legacy and you know and for me having my son there

01:47:48.580 that i i it's my hope like seeing his dad do something at that level i mean dude as a dad you

01:47:55.320 know yeah you know it hit me and like no one no one can ever take that away from us right we're in

01:48:00.140 the history no bro you're etched in your etch your name is etched in history yeah all those posters

01:48:07.020 like you have in your garage yeah we'll have that where there's going to be a poster of our right

01:48:11.220 right you know now so um yeah man it's hard hard to put into words but yeah it's fucking awesome

01:48:16.480 dude yeah and and you sent me the screenshot you were like oh by the way yeah from back in

01:48:22.420 however many three years ago that we were gonna win le mans yeah you're right again yeah dude well

01:48:27.520 i mean look uh winners fucking win bro and you know it's it's i think people i think people think

01:48:35.320 there's a there's a magical element to it and i don't think that's what it is at all i think it's

01:48:43.960 being meticulous and relentless towards whatever it is you choose that you want to go towards and i

01:48:51.900 don't think that success in business or success in racing or or obviously there's limitations you

01:48:59.760 know uh a five foot one person is highly unlikely to be the mvp of the mba right um but outside of that

01:49:08.920 i really think it comes down to like just an obsessive commitment yeah to achieving whatever

01:49:17.500 it is that you've decided you're going to achieve and and it's not it's not a oh i'd kind of like to

01:49:23.820 do this it's it's an obsession yep and for you guys listening you know i can't i can't articulate

01:49:31.200 the amount of hours that ryan and i have spent on the phone talking about winning this race i mean

01:49:40.420 over the years it's i wouldn't even know where to start yeah yes and uh to see to see you do it bro

01:49:47.800 it's just it's one of the coolest it's one of the coolest moments of my life i can't imagine what it's

01:49:52.640 like to actually have done it you know and and to stand out there on that podium with fuck what

01:49:59.320 100 000 people i'll never forget that i mean i hope i haven't re-watched the the tv yeah yeah

01:50:05.420 yeah i hope they showed it no but did it justice when we walked out on the podium it's a it's an f1

01:50:10.520 style podium that's elevated you know and when we walked out they opened the track up after the

01:50:15.620 race for all the fans can come down like on the the front stretch and there was no end to them

01:50:20.360 bro it was as far as i could see yeah wall-to-wall people i i mean the race is one of the most

01:50:27.780 highest attended sporting events in the world right up there with indy 500 and um i think it's

01:50:32.460 like 370 000 people or something i and it looked like they were all right they were there you know

01:50:38.120 and i you know you talk about for me i mean you know for you know like you and and this company you

01:50:44.620 guys you know believed in me like at a super early stage when i was just starting out and racing into

01:50:49.480 i can't tell you the amount of pride to stand up there um we had some screaming freedom you know energy

01:50:55.040 drinks with us and we didn't know if like the officials were going to try to take them from us

01:50:58.540 or whatever so we we kind of snuck them within our suits like as we went up but to stand there like

01:51:03.900 with the can you know wearing our hat you know with our logo on top of the podium at without doubt

01:51:10.580 one of the world's largest takeout racing yeah it's one of the world's largest sporting events

01:51:14.500 yeah you know it's it for me it was that super bowl type of moment right you know and to be able

01:51:19.880 to do that when i walk back in this building you know too yeah and see all these employees

01:51:23.720 and all these team members same with mountain motorsports our motorcycle dealerships the amount

01:51:28.080 of pride you know that we were able to you know help create for all of these employees yeah customers

01:51:36.280 how many customers that have reached out and like dude we've all loved first form or we've loved

01:51:41.700 mountain motion but like now we know someone who's one yeah i mean it's just it's a tremendous

01:51:46.700 amount of pride well dude and i you know we have never talked about this publicly but in 2022

01:51:51.660 2022 was it 2022 or 23 that you know there was an opportunity for you to invest in the company

01:52:00.140 and ryan's actually people don't know this but like you know you own a small person a small portion

01:52:06.120 of the brand at this point yeah so you know to get up there and be a part of the brand after all these

01:52:12.740 years of being a fan of the brand yeah it had to be fucking i mean dude yeah i mean yeah it means

01:52:19.480 i mean it it means a lot i mean to be able to uh like say you gave me that opportunity a couple years

01:52:25.160 ago um you know i'm a small part you know yeah big massive thing that you well actually a really big

01:52:31.980 part because you know having you as a partner for the for the the knowledge and the experience and the

01:52:38.820 strategy and all of those things is is invaluable so you know it's it's uh for us to go from you know

01:52:46.980 where we are now to where we're going it's oh yeah it's fuck the skills needed yeah well we're uh

01:52:53.820 yeah this there's uh there's gonna be a long story you know written about first form one day yeah

01:52:58.900 where we still have many more chapters and that's for sure to write but uh yeah no i'm i'm i'm super

01:53:04.120 gracious of uh of mostly the friendship right yeah absolutely our friends you know before anything

01:53:09.800 else and sal and and uh jason and chris i mean all you guys give me the opportunity to be more

01:53:14.800 involved with the business it's uh there isn't a business you know um that i believe in more

01:53:20.020 outside of the one that you know i started with justin um but uh you know if i could have you know

01:53:27.180 if you asked me a question hey ryan you have the opportunity to invest in any company in the world

01:53:32.520 any company man there's not one that i would want to and see more promise and upside

01:53:40.080 than first form i mean i well dude it wouldn't feel right it wouldn't feel right doing it without

01:53:44.880 you at this point i mean that's what it comes down to you know we've been i mean fuck how many

01:53:49.900 conversations have we had over the years about the the company strategy not just the race strategy

01:53:56.500 you know i think i think people you know like you've been one of my biggest you know uh i don't know

01:54:03.180 you know sounding boards advisors you know partners without officially being part of the company for a

01:54:09.080 decade yep you know and people people um you know people don't know that but you know i i wouldn't

01:54:16.660 feel right i don't think anybody here would feel right doing it without you well yeah it means a lot

01:54:21.580 i'd say i get one question all the time about uh you know we have so many fans and people look up

01:54:27.700 the first form and i get a question like ryan how how on earth did you get first form as a sponsor

01:54:33.360 and i have the same you know uh answer back to them and i think this is a great thing for a lot

01:54:39.500 of young people to hear if you're ever looking to get investment or a sponsorship from a company

01:54:46.480 the number one way you can do that is to give more than you're asking to receive and you said this a

01:54:54.420 lot i've always tried from the first time that you and i became friends and this is in any friendship

01:55:00.760 that i have i try to give and share more than i asked in return and i do it in a way that i'm not

01:55:08.720 even hoping or expecting or yeah i do it just selflessly right selflessly and i think if you

01:55:14.540 can truly master that ability to in any relationship you have whether it's you know uh you know friendship

01:55:22.020 whether it's business related or whether you're trying to build some attract a sponsor right you have

01:55:28.620 to find ways that you can give a lot of people say well i don't have money or i don't have you know

01:55:32.660 giving is a lot of ways like you said i i was there as a soundboard yeah a lot of times you just needed

01:55:40.000 somebody to talk to or somebody bounce somebody off of and that was valuable yeah at the time and yes

01:55:44.660 eventually you decided to invest in racing yeah with me but hopefully it was always and i think

01:55:51.540 that's what oh dude yeah there was yes i received yeah but i always felt that i was oh i was giving

01:55:58.020 dude come on that made it i mean so i know that i know that but i don't think you know it's never

01:56:04.740 been talked about in public yeah you know what i'm saying yep i mean it's look bro pretty awesome to

01:56:09.880 see it's fucking awesome it's the coolest thing ever i thought this was six year i just found this

01:56:14.520 online uh the the video game gran turismo yeah somebody has that livery in the game yeah oh it'll

01:56:21.840 be yeah it's already everywhere yeah yeah people are making it in gran turismo and all the uh cert

01:56:28.420 fours uh and i get all you know because these are individual designers that that you know make

01:56:32.800 the graphic designers yeah in the game that's where they sell those skins like you buy the skins

01:56:36.880 and some some guys make them and some people just open source it yeah most people it's free

01:56:42.220 they build them and yeah it for uh you know it'll be a very uh widely used uh yeah yeah yeah

01:56:49.380 game skin after this win you know it's freaking sick man um but i want to ask you this ryan because you

01:56:54.740 know you put them all together you got sebring daytona lamont like that's the pinnacle like what so

01:57:02.240 what's next like how do you how do you reset a standard how do you not celebrate too long what's the

01:57:07.040 next what's next like i mean how do you how do you top that that's a great question i mean uh

01:57:12.080 without a doubt um any competitive person you know i think no matter how big the mountain is

01:57:17.800 that you climb you know there's there's always another mountain right you know you start thinking

01:57:22.260 about you know what what else is there to achieve uh for me i got a short term and a long-term answer

01:57:27.620 you know the the short term is simple um we're currently leading after the win in le mans we're

01:57:33.640 leading the world endurance championship uh which is ran by the fia and that's the highest form of

01:57:39.520 sports car racing in the world there's formula one fia runs two series they run formula one and

01:57:45.360 they run the world endurance championship every manufacturer is involved with the world endurance

01:57:49.520 championship so we are racing with the factory effort from porsche we race against the factory

01:57:54.500 efforts from ferrari from corvette from bmw so it is it is the top level you know sports car racing

01:57:59.840 and uh it's a series it goes all around the world all year and the best you know the team that you

01:58:06.360 has the most points at the end of the year is world champion so outside of the formula one world

01:58:11.160 championship this would be the next highest level of of a season-long championship in the world so

01:58:17.300 that's the goal uh we're currently leading the championship uh after le mans le mans is worth a

01:58:22.040 lot of points we've won one other race we won in italy we're the only team to have won two races so

01:58:26.380 far this year um we're in a pretty close battle with the factory ferrari as it was probably the

01:58:32.160 dicks i would say strongest team they're strong i mean without it out there the next brand well bro

01:58:37.240 they i mean that's their whole thing it's the two of us yeah i mean it's it's we're i would i don't

01:58:42.040 want to say head and shoulders but there's great competition amongst corvette has a strong you know

01:58:46.480 racing team uh you know toyota like bmw there's a lot of great teams but ferrari and us are or you know

01:58:54.720 the the leaders and uh we have the lead and so that's that's the short-term goal i want to be world

01:58:59.500 champion um and have that as a title you know here that's the short-term goal long term i just

01:59:06.040 start now i always said my whole goal was to win le mans you know to try to win that race and win

01:59:12.040 the trifecta believe me my wife is asking like hey so you know you've won le mans now like time to

01:59:17.360 retire yeah well dude it's a big commitment from the family like people people yeah i mean look

01:59:23.600 yeah it's sacrifice yeah a lot you know and um i'm super fortunate you know decided you know with

01:59:29.980 with her my kids you know it's a lot of time away from home and uh um but my to answer your question

01:59:36.000 my long-term goal is legacy right i'm starting to think about legacy and and like i look at you know

01:59:41.440 is there you know how many times could i win this or how many you know championships you know could

01:59:47.360 there be and um so i would like to live leave a lasting legacy both in the racing world and as

01:59:54.480 well as the business you know community world and i think obviously associated with their parallel

01:59:59.240 yeah i think because we have to continue to grow the brand if we're going to continue to have the

02:00:03.140 legacy in racing yep yeah so i it's uh i think about legacy both for the brand personally and you

02:00:09.020 know so that's it's actually pretty cool because like when we talk about when ryan and i talk about

02:00:14.260 the business like it's it's funny because a lot of it correlates to and if we could do that we could

02:00:19.460 do this you know like yeah let's do this over here yeah yeah that's possible yeah um yeah i mean you

02:00:27.640 you know my long-term goal like we're going to be an f1 i was i was about to ask i didn't want to

02:00:33.000 like break no seat i mean that's but like that's where you're going to ultimately see our car our livery

02:00:38.000 everything that we're doing you will 100 percent eventually see that in f1 yeah we're we're making

02:00:46.020 we're making all the right headways we we we know the right connections yeah let me tell you we are

02:00:51.760 uh first form and like that blue livery we are we're on the world uh map and that's what it takes i

02:00:58.960 mean no you can't just turn up and formula even to a team you know they you know obviously these teams

02:01:03.640 want to be associated with great brands and um yeah we're we're we're on the way yeah we we will

02:01:09.000 be owners maybe i don't know if ryan will be driving at the f1 car i think we may need to find

02:01:15.720 maybe yeah we might need a guy who's 20 you know uh i may be like the the brad pitt character in the

02:01:22.380 new yeah i mean we might sneak in a couple laps you know what i'm saying we can go do some

02:01:27.500 well that'll be an expensive um that's that's all right if we yeah don't cross that don't cross that

02:01:32.680 line but yeah man uh well dude look um fuck it's been awesome it's dude it's been awesome yeah i

02:01:43.380 there's no other way to say it man uh you know the whole the whole thing dude like our friendship

02:01:50.140 seeing you know you guys grow your company our our company now our company um you know the partnership

02:02:00.540 with the with ab and dana and the guys like yeah super fortunate yeah the rate takes all the time

02:02:06.680 like man it's pretty good life it's weird it's fucking surreal bro it's like it's like you know

02:02:12.680 and we were it circles back to the thing that we were talking about you know what you know the time

02:02:20.400 right like 10 years in you're like fuck like it would have been so easy for you or me to both been

02:02:26.600 like yeah let's i'm gonna do something else yeah you know and now here we are

02:02:30.360 fucking doing it like for real doing it and it's just uh i know for me dude like as much

02:02:39.720 as i expect to win you know because people ask me a lot personally they're like dude did you ever

02:02:46.400 imagine and i'm always like yeah dude i fucking wanted to be here 10 years ago but like now that

02:02:53.060 it's like real real it is kind of surreal like it's like to stop you know just for a second and

02:02:58.560 be like yeah the the brands summer smash at anheuser-busch at the distillery yeah you know

02:03:04.780 we've we've we've transformed more lives than any other company ever yeah you know what i'm saying

02:03:12.600 like it's just it's surreal dude it's a surreal thing to sit to sit and think about and look at

02:03:20.000 and the time invested you know it's not like we're 70 years old bro you know we're we're you

02:03:26.660 know early side of 40s not not backside and um it's just it's a you know i i think you guys should

02:03:36.800 all remember that i think you guys who have the dreams and have the goals and i think you guys got

02:03:41.820 to you know not don't get caught up in the short money you know think about the big picture what you

02:03:47.960 can do you know the one thing that these guys have turning it back to entrepreneurship for just a

02:03:52.760 second that we didn't have is they had the ability to generate capital doing side hustles that were

02:04:00.300 not available to us and what i see from a lot of the young guys is they get addicted to this side hustle

02:04:05.860 shit and never actually build it into a real fucking brand and dude i hope you guys remember like

02:04:15.980 it's not just about the money it's not just about you know making a few dollars and and making some

02:04:22.580 cool instagram posts like the journey the time the friendships the the stories the that's that's

02:04:30.700 your life dude like it's not a balance statement it's not a it's not a number it's it's it's the story

02:04:37.840 created through that journey and you know when i stop and think about it dude i wouldn't trade that for

02:04:43.780 anything yeah that's it i mean that's very well said it's all it's all in the journey that's where

02:04:48.260 the magic happens yeah it's not at the finish line no well bro um fuck man i'm proud i'm i couldn't be

02:04:58.000 more proud of you dude and i couldn't be more proud to see you do that um the whole thing you know

02:05:04.200 everything that we've done everything we're doing and and just fuck it's it's one of the coolest things

02:05:10.400 my whole life man so proud to do it with you bud yeah so great yeah i love you man for real that's

02:05:18.160 real shit same yeah bro so absolutely all right guys i know that was a little different for a

02:05:24.040 for a tuesday show but i thought you guys might enjoy it and uh a couple car guys just walking cars

02:05:31.240 yeah and a story and there's so many parallels for any of you guys trying to achieve anything

02:05:36.180 you know the endurance the the persistence the the perseverance through the hard shit

02:05:42.540 you know the time that doesn't go fast enough and then when it does go fast enough it goes too fast

02:05:47.780 like it's just such a it's it's just it's it's fucking crazy way to live your life but i wouldn't

02:05:56.000 trade it man absolutely yeah so all right guys well ryan thank you bro thanks for coming on the show

02:06:02.640 it's been a long time yeah yeah it's been awesome all right guys we will see you later on this week

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REAL AF with Andy Frisella - July 01, 2025

901. Championship Mindset Ft. Ryan Hardwick： 24h Le Mans Winner

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