REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 94. 1 + 1 = 2 Ft. JP Dinnell

00:00:00.000 what's up guys this is not andy priscilla obviously but this is the show for the realists say goodbye

00:00:18.140 to the lies the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality thank

00:00:24.120 god i got a little bit of cold i think that sounded great a little bit of bass i i think

00:00:27.980 i need that strip club bass andrew's got good bass yeah i think it sounded real good you did real

00:00:32.760 good i know you're i know you're very desirous of a lot of affirmation sal so i just wanted to give

00:00:37.840 that to you nobody's ever told me though that i have a good voice oh no you have a good mom gave

00:00:42.380 me my first compliment before we walked into the studio sal is looking svelte i don't know you've

00:00:47.280 definitely got a face for radio for sure yeah well i don't know about that i mean well you know you got

00:00:51.020 i mean dj this is where you lose credibility right right right right you know what i'm saying like

00:00:55.440 you can't throw false things like that in the air i mean i don't think it was false i mean yeah maybe

00:01:00.220 well you know we live in a strange world where you're slimming down and my desire was that my

00:01:06.440 desire was to bulk up but i bulked up a little bit too much around the waistline so i gotta

00:01:10.340 i gotta slim up what are we gonna do tighten it up vaughn 75 hard yeah yeah you on yeah what day

00:01:18.420 oh no i mean i'm starting well i mean you could have just said like day 21 and just bought in

00:01:26.820 i could have but you know i'm an honest man but you know no i'm excited yeah so who we got here with

00:01:32.440 us well i'm gonna do the rounds i think we might have to reintroduce you you know you've been gone

00:01:36.700 real quick before we bring our guest in how was christmas christmas was great but i'll tell you what

00:01:41.460 i told the guys before i came in here uh everything lately has been good i feel like i'm in a really

00:01:46.500 really good place i'm hitting my habits i'm i'm just you know in that momentum stage but

00:01:52.400 you know people like us we're constantly reading books right yep i just started define people like

00:01:59.580 us vaughn i mean people like us overachievers oh killers oh i get it there's only one real killer

00:02:06.260 in the room but well yeah yeah that's true at least confirmed that's true how many that's not a

00:02:12.440 question okay well i was just gonna say all right there is an answer to that yeah okay not enough

00:02:20.540 i like it listen and and for those who have no history with the mfco project uh this is jp

00:02:28.260 dennell seal extraordinaire uh jaco's idol and mentor uh so he's he's joined us today but what i was going

00:02:35.880 to say is that people like us like to read books you know if you if you do the 75 hard or really if

00:02:40.220 you're in the whole first form lifestyle you read what 10 pages a day right yeah so there's i've read

00:02:44.800 a lot of books in the last five years but i gotta tell you i have not been entertained and inspired

00:02:49.740 by a book in a long time and i technically am not reading it i'm listening to it because i drove to

00:02:54.020 colorado the other day you guys read green lights by matthew mcconaughey i have not but it is on my list

00:03:00.320 oh my gosh dude it's called green lights right called green lights yeah he is a frisella he is a

00:03:06.680 he is a frisella i mean matthew you just got a quite quite a fucking compliment there son

00:03:11.460 i mean like tell talking about his dad and the way his dad operates and how his dad uh challenged

00:03:19.100 his older brother and his older brother's like no dad i don't want to do this because his dad wanted

00:03:23.320 them to run some sort of i don't know pipe scheme or something i don't know what it was but but his

00:03:28.220 dad resisted him and his dad's like son he started rolling up his his his or his uh sleeves he's

00:03:34.520 like dad i'm not going to do it and so they started coming to fisticuffs and everything so

00:03:37.540 finally his son like literally gets a two by four and this is matthew's older brother he knocks his

00:03:44.780 dad out cold just flat out cold and he thinks he kills his dad he's like daddy i didn't mean to i

00:03:49.680 didn't mean to i didn't mean to so the guy so the guy finally comes to and the kid's really relieved

00:03:54.040 and the dad stands up and goes gives him a big bear hug says that's my boy yeah and matthew says

00:04:01.360 from that point on my older brother was his best friend there was such respect between the two of

00:04:05.960 them uh but he is such a good that's how i met jp is that right yeah first time i met him he's

00:04:11.880 knocked him the fuck out ever since we've been best friends top he's a top bunk type of guy though

00:04:16.740 well he's such a good storyteller and he even this is crazy and i'm not going to ruin it for

00:04:20.340 everybody but he even says his dad and mom are just crazy and is he narrating the audio he is

00:04:24.200 and he does because because he's a he's an actor he's just oh he just kills it so when he tells

00:04:29.680 the story and i'm going to ruin it a little bit but for you just said you weren't going to ruin

00:04:33.040 well i'm going to ruin it but basically he says he says his dad says to him son when i die it's

00:04:39.800 going to be making love to your mama they call that dying in the saddle von guess what that's how

00:04:45.620 he died my man he climaxed and then he was gone hey listen if you're gonna go you're gonna go son

00:04:51.860 like you might as well go talk about calling your shot i mean literally that's amazing so jp you know

00:04:58.060 anything about calling your shot no so we are uh we are waiting for the big man i'm sure he will

00:05:02.720 arrive at some point yeah andrew got hung up in a little bit of a business yeah he said get started

00:05:06.540 and we're like you're sure and he's like yeah sure okay so we got how the fuck does that happen

00:05:11.100 we got dj we got are you still called jelly joe are you called juicy joe all right that's the juice

00:05:19.520 all right we got keith sweat over here and uh we got madat who is not a soviet i'm not gonna he's not

00:05:27.240 you can't say that that's offensive i'm sorry that's true we're in a new era right now right

00:05:31.400 now yeah you're canceled and uh don't worry i got i got enough on you i'll cancel you back we are so

00:05:37.280 excited to have jp daniel who i like i said i i obviously introduced him sort of briefly earlier

00:05:42.520 but one of my favorite all-time episodes was uh the mfco project episode with jp daniel which i

00:05:49.280 i actually did it was it had something in the title about impact i think i'm not sure uh impact over

00:05:54.380 income impact over income and i remember specifically asking jp because jp is a a man of

00:06:01.000 faith like myself and i said now jp there's a part of sort of doing your job and doing your duty but

00:06:06.220 i'm assuming you don't actually enjoy killing people as a seal and he's like no i i like it

00:06:12.820 no actually i really really enjoyed it i mean because those are bad evil people

00:06:17.160 yeah um that were doing horrible things to innocent people yeah and here's the deal

00:06:22.220 evil exists whether we want to acknowledge it or not and you can't be blind to evil and just think

00:06:29.880 it's going to go away and it's not going to affect your life it's it's it's there it's spreading it's

00:06:34.700 like a cancer yeah and the only way to get rid of a cancer is when you fully remove it from the body

00:06:40.260 and obviously we didn't fully remove that cancer that's why when my default answer and i joke but

00:06:46.420 it's also serious when people like well how many confirmed kills do you have as a sniper is that okay

00:06:50.440 asking or you know between me as a machine gunner i also had a good amount of kills and a sniper it's

00:06:55.200 the answer is always going to be not enough because evil still exists and um they were horrible people

00:07:01.980 that did horrific and i'm saying horrific things to innocent people that were just trying to live

00:07:08.180 their life they just iraq is the you know what an iraqi family wants exactly what we want they want

00:07:14.620 their kids to be able to go to school they want to be able to go to the market without you know in fear

00:07:19.180 of being you know shot up or a part of an ambush or you know they they would like to be able to go to

00:07:23.980 to work and provide for their family yeah and these insurgent fighters had such control over ramadi

00:07:30.360 that they actually were flying their flag over the capitol building they had complete control wow and

00:07:37.120 there's about they estimated between four to five thousand enemy fighters in ramadi when we were

00:07:42.280 headed over there in 2006 so we knew there was going to be some good hunting oh doing god's work

00:07:47.480 seriously i mean we were and there was a lot of um you know spiritual battles that were going on

00:07:52.920 there spiritual warfare you could feel it you could you could feel the evil yeah and um it was it was

00:07:59.700 it was crazy but yeah that's an interesting thought i got one i mean about the the whole evil thing

00:08:05.840 you know it reminds me of like just law enforcement here in the states it's like you know everybody

00:08:09.820 wants bacon but nobody wants to see how it's made right and so the end of the day there's butchers

00:08:14.400 out there that have a job to do right and so i mean it doesn't matter you know what you think of

00:08:19.300 our military or our law enforcement that's a job that you're not willing to do right so how much can

00:08:23.720 you really speak on it you know yeah i mean i'm gonna screw up the quote and i used to know it pretty

00:08:28.180 well but not surprising yeah i know we know how well this this mush up here has been working these

00:08:33.440 days um but people and i know people are going to correct this on social media which is beautiful

00:08:40.400 you know it's actually this all right cool you're right thanks karen yeah my daughters i have twin

00:08:47.100 daughters you know and now they'll say baron and that's they that's the boy version of a karen

00:08:51.120 baron and karen this is hilarious anyways uh the quote to what you're saying dj is people sleep

00:08:59.080 peacefully in their beds because um people are willing to do violence on their behalf and it's

00:09:05.140 like hey you know people are able to sleep at night because people are willing to go handle evil

00:09:09.960 they're willing to go do stuff that nobody else is a can even think about and fathom doing nor are

00:09:16.640 they willing to do it right and a lot of the time they don't know they won't want to know that

00:09:20.200 that stuff's going on exactly and when we with what we do at echelon front you know i work at

00:09:25.640 echelon front that's the leadership and management consulting company that jocko willink and leif

00:09:30.020 babin started when we talk with companies i tell them like hey if you think about what i'm sharing

00:09:36.380 with you the stories of combat and how they apply to your business you'll find correlations and what i

00:09:41.940 just said i mean how how does that apply to you so i mean think about everyone wants to be able to do

00:09:47.640 what first form is doing and all these other successful companies they all want that but

00:09:51.980 nobody's actually willing to put in that work nobody's willing to put in the time nobody's

00:09:55.420 willing to have the sacrifices that you guys have sacrificed to get where you're at in your lives

00:10:00.100 but yet they'll want to partake right in in that yeah wanting wanting and and uh actually doing are two

00:10:08.680 totally different things yes and i think you know what's funny is you know to to jp's point

00:10:12.960 you know impact over income the first the first episode um von what episode was it you're usually

00:10:18.320 savant you know i'm honestly i'm 190 190 192 there you go you've listened to it a couple times i think

00:10:25.240 i was gonna say it was in the late hundreds but it was november 2017 wow and it's certain it's been

00:10:31.060 that long that's funny it's certainly uh one of the best episodes in my opinion in mf ceo history and

00:10:36.700 and it's funny because i i look at uh our relationship jp and and and just our company

00:10:42.000 but jp and myself and our personal relationship how much has happened since that time because

00:10:45.300 we were really fortunate you know we've had a lot of really cool people come through the ranks of

00:10:49.560 first form over the years because of mf ceo and because of real af and i always tell i tell everybody

00:10:54.640 all the time there's only two people that i will let talk to our sales force and everybody asks all

00:10:58.680 the time everybody hey man let me come in and do a sales training hey man let me come in

00:11:02.620 there's only two people jp dennell and tim grover that's it and the reason being is because they

00:11:07.820 they understand the dirty work that it takes in order to get where you want to go right and being

00:11:12.260 able to express that um and being able to open that up and explain that to young leaders and young

00:11:19.160 individuals is something that somebody who's done the dirty work can only explain to somebody who needs

00:11:24.380 to do the dirty work and i think that's the important piece and and to back to dj's point you know

00:11:29.220 everybody wants to bake eat bacon but nobody wants to see how how it's made um you know jp with his

00:11:34.760 leadership in combat is able to translate that into how can you use this as a business tool and same

00:11:41.960 thing with like a tim grover right how do you take the the top of the top the michael jordans of the

00:11:47.020 world and and and the kobe bryans and and the duane wades and what consistencies do they have that

00:11:53.760 parlay into greatness and then explaining that to to young individuals isn't it's unbelievable skill

00:11:59.880 and an unbelievable uh talent and if you're not following jp you certainly should for those

00:12:04.360 reasons because you know leadership and greatness is a built process it's not something you're you

00:12:10.220 you don't you don't just have it it's something you earn and it's something that you know you earn

00:12:15.680 your way through the ranks whether it's on a battlefield whether it's in a sport whether it's in

00:12:19.380 business there are fucking if you want to be great you're going to have to pay a motherfucking price

00:12:24.660 and that's the reality and that's the correlation across all those fields and i think you know our

00:12:29.100 relationship going back to it is you know we come through and and back then you know everybody wanted

00:12:34.420 to i don't want to say everybody because that's unfair but you know guests would come in you know

00:12:39.300 and i'm andy's brother right so guests would come in and they would you know they hang out with

00:12:43.500 and they kind of i don't want to say snub everybody because that's unfair to everybody but they come

00:12:47.560 through and then you know one day here comes this this little fucking guy you know he's bouncing up

00:12:51.640 and down the hallways or old hq you know fucking not very many hallways and hey man i'm jp you know

00:12:57.000 i didn't know who fucking jp was you know cool yeah right beat it man yeah no shit and i'll never

00:13:03.220 forget it you know he's like and he's like i'm from south haven mississippi and i said oh no shit right

00:13:07.120 south of memphis you know i sell those this this uh retailer down there called wholesale nutrition he's

00:13:11.080 like oh yeah i fucking go through and we and i had no idea who jp was i didn't know this motherfucker was

00:13:15.420 like you know he'd kill you with his thumbs nah now i know he wouldn't those are all those are

00:13:20.280 all stories no but you know and then uh andrew and jason and i think whomever went to dinner that

00:13:25.540 night and they're like dude that's the baddest motherfucker on earth you know he's telling

00:13:28.620 us stories and everything else i was like wait that motherfucker was in my office yesterday

00:13:31.980 and he was back the next day and you know we started you know we became friends and you know

00:13:37.700 started helping with whatever but you know i think in following jp and hopefully what we'll dig into

00:13:43.560 here if you're a new listener if you're an existing listener or somewhere in between is

00:13:47.120 um jp is a great human he's an unbelievable individual somebody who i'm really proud to call

00:13:54.280 a friend and somebody who's done it and you know when you take advice and you look at real af and you

00:13:59.260 think about the guests who have circumvented this those are people who have actually done the work

00:14:04.340 that you need to do or will need to do in order to be where you want to go and i think you know

00:14:10.300 we're going to dive in a little bit today you know and talking about commitment you know like

00:14:13.860 what is real commitment you know when you talk about a soldier's life you know what is it to put

00:14:19.600 it on the line what is it to to really you know i know we we say we give it our all but are you

00:14:25.100 really and i think you know unpacking that out of jp's brain is something i'd like to to look at

00:14:30.140 you know because i think as an audience as a listener right now it's the beginning of the year

00:14:34.280 we come off 2020 kind of a little bit of a shit show you know i mean a little bit of a shit show

00:14:41.000 we got shit going everywhere i don't think anybody fucking marks 2020 as a win um in the grand scheme

00:14:46.300 of of life but if you're going to make that change what does it look like you know how do you get

00:14:51.080 through the struggle the personal struggle the person who looks back you in the struggle and

00:14:54.220 really that commitment to self and so that's what vaughn hopefully if you didn't forget how to do your

00:14:58.340 job we can walk ourselves through that and i would just say i think it's i think it's telling

00:15:01.440 that of all the people that that andy has encountered in the last five or six years

00:15:06.060 particularly as he's launched into you know going from entrepreneur to getting into this

00:15:10.160 whole personal development entrepreneur success space uh jp made it into 75 hard the book and i think

00:15:18.100 that says a lot and i think the point that that that when he references you the point that he makes

00:15:23.540 is that really at the end of the day uh becoming a navy seal is not really physical it's mental

00:15:30.340 it's it's deciding to it and refusing to quit and having that iron will to just power through

00:15:36.580 so we're going to talk about commitment and um i kind of put together some notes from you know

00:15:41.420 obviously i've spent a lot of time with annie and sal in particular so i kind of jotted down some of

00:15:45.660 the things that are sort of what i call the dna of commitment and so i'm going to throw them out

00:15:49.580 there and i'll let you guys just kind of unpack and and uh illustrate and explain and and exhort and

00:15:55.500 do whatever you want to but guys i think this this episode really is obviously we're not real far

00:16:01.720 into 2021 yet and people are already saying you know they have high hopes for this year they have

00:16:07.700 hopes and dreams and goals well none of that's going to happen unless you have commitment and so

00:16:12.740 what is it uh what does it take to be truly committed and what are the benefits of commitment

00:16:16.700 that's what we're going to talk about so i want to start first by talking just about desire

00:16:21.380 okay um the first component of commitment is do you really want what you say you want

00:16:30.460 and i don't know my observation is that a lot of times people commit to certain goals that they

00:16:37.120 think they should be committed to um maybe they hear something in culture they hear something in

00:16:42.920 their peer group and they say oh everybody else is doing it so i mean can i can i paint a little

00:16:47.560 landscape before it just jump right in yeah absolutely can we can we identify what it's not

00:16:51.500 sure and saying like you know and this is the problem that i see in the landscape now when you

00:16:56.240 look at the political climate and you know whether you voted for joe uh joe biden or or donald trump or

00:17:02.660 you know change has to happen internally like it ain't gonna fucking happen by itself right and

00:17:07.560 that commitment to yourself like i don't give a fuck who the president is i don't give a fuck who

00:17:11.320 your governor is i don't give a fuck what the national guard does if you want change in your life

00:17:16.280 they ain't gonna do it and i think unfortunately in society today we realize and we're we're

00:17:20.700 switching into this dependency upon hoping that the government takes care of us well i got news

00:17:25.820 motherfucker right they ain't gonna take care of you you know and if you want you want pure evidence

00:17:30.280 of that go look at the va hospital they don't take care of our own goddamn soldiers so when you look

00:17:34.040 at you know our government they don't give a shit about you and you know and you know what's funny

00:17:39.940 and you you transcend that like in your in place of employment now i'd like i care a great deal

00:17:44.500 about our people here guys and girls everybody in our system like our goal is to make them better

00:17:49.880 fucking humans people of character and i know that's a rare work environment but unfortunately

00:17:55.260 in most places in the world the world doesn't give a fuck about you and the world certainly doesn't

00:18:00.160 give a fuck about you until you learn to give a fuck about yourself and that's the understanding

00:18:03.800 that a lot of people skip that step and saying well when's my turn no motherfucker you gotta go get

00:18:08.620 your turn and you gotta go step up and get to the front of line or at least get in the

00:18:12.160 motherfucking line and understand that it's commitment to self above everything else and

00:18:16.040 nothing in your life is going to change if 2020 was shitty well guess what 2021 is going to be

00:18:20.560 shitty because guess what 2022 don't look good either yeah you got a fucking bad forecast coming down

00:18:24.700 the pipe and i think that's the understanding of like people want so badly especially you know

00:18:29.800 whether your president won or didn't win whatever and it happens on both sides guy wins

00:18:34.320 and all those people like oh my god it's gonna be so fucking great but they had a

00:18:38.560 shitty 2020 well guess what your 2021 is gonna suck too you know and then on the flip side

00:18:42.780 the people who had shitty 2020s who president there who didn't win they're like oh it's gonna

00:18:48.100 be fucking miserable you're right it's gonna be fucking miserable because you're not accepting

00:18:52.000 responsibility you're putting a blame on them the only blame that you can put anywhere in life

00:18:57.320 is the person that looks back at you in the mirror and i think this goes back into jp's wheelhouse

00:19:01.500 where you start talking about ownership you know commitment to self you know extreme ownership the

00:19:05.800 you know the the echelon front way if you will and understanding that dude if you want

00:19:09.780 fucking change you better go have a conversation with the person that looks back you in the mirror

00:19:13.420 and commit to that change and ain't nobody going to do that but you so when you have that discussion

00:19:18.540 how do you know that you really want something how do you know that there's that pure desire to

00:19:23.440 accomplish something and or how do you know that you're you're not just fooling yourself

00:19:26.340 so it's it's awesome that this is what we're talking about and i was gonna say it's unique but

00:19:32.600 every conversation sal and i have like we just stopped saying well this is unique because whatever

00:19:37.560 we need to talk about it comes through our conversation and i have this written right here

00:19:42.820 um jocko and i were talking in january last january at an event and he said discipline is rooted in the

00:19:49.760 truth that we tell ourselves and i think that answers what you just said is it's it's about the

00:19:55.820 discipline that you're willing to commit and it's the truth that you tell yourself you can lie to

00:20:00.200 yourself all day long and we've all lied to ourself i lied to myself for years and it wasn't until i

00:20:05.860 started telling myself the truth as to what i was going to do why i wanted to do it and then how i was

00:20:12.520 going to do it that's it until i did that i i wasn't actually committed i i wasn't going to be

00:20:18.280 disciplined and that's why i i really liked doing 75 hard i i loved doing 75 hard because it got me back

00:20:26.240 to that mindset of floating between being tactical and strategic being committed to what i said i'm

00:20:33.040 going to do um and then coming up with plans i think that's the problem is people they have all

00:20:38.560 these ideas as to what they want to do in life but they don't take the time to actually think about

00:20:43.260 that they're emotional they're not they're not logical you know one of the laws of combat that we

00:20:48.300 talk about is prioritize and execute you have to relax look around and make a call meaning you have

00:20:52.920 to assess your battlefield to see what's actually going on you know when i was a machine gunner

00:20:58.400 part of our training to ingrain into our into our dna to to detach was we would shoot hundreds of

00:21:07.860 thousands of rounds through a machine gun in three to five round bursts so you would you know acquire

00:21:14.160 your sights sights on the target bop bop bop bop bop finger off look left look right back onto the

00:21:21.580 onto your weapon acquire the target bop bop bop bop and then we would do that and we would do that

00:21:27.160 throughout all of our blocks of training and if you shot more than that you were going to get in

00:21:31.960 trouble by the instructors because it meant that you got sucked into something therefore you're losing

00:21:36.840 situational awareness and if i'm a machine gunner just which is a lot of fun by the way it's a lot of

00:21:44.460 fun but if i'm doing that and sal's right next to me i'm actually now taking away from my teammates

00:21:50.020 ability to assess what's going on and not be distracted and so it's a it's a thing for yourself

00:21:55.360 and then for those around you you know when and so to relate that to what civilians do and what we

00:22:00.680 all do is when you're trying to do too much and you're putting too much on your plate you're you're

00:22:05.460 just holding down the trigger you're just going full bore and that's not sustainable one you're going

00:22:11.460 to run out of ammo two you're going to ruin your machine gun and three you're losing situational

00:22:16.520 awareness for what you're capable of and those in your life are getting dragged down by that as

00:22:21.980 well and so i think we have to be real with ourselves in a logical standpoint and if you

00:22:28.400 don't learn to detach from your emotions you can never actually do that and that's what i love that

00:22:34.160 75 hard brought me back to that okay what am i capable of do i actually want to do this right

00:22:41.080 do i actually want to do this yes i do and i had started 75 hard once before and then i actually

00:22:47.980 like my doctor like hey you have to stop i was had some major medical issues that were going on my

00:22:53.860 kidneys and adrenal glands were shutting down it was like hey you got to stop what you're doing

00:22:57.720 and i had i sought some other medical treatment and then when i restarted it i was like i need to do

00:23:03.980 this i need to do it for myself i need to do it for my family my business and it it reset everything

00:23:09.820 because i was honest with myself and because i told myself the truth of what i wanted to do

00:23:16.580 and why i was able to create the how and then i was able to stay on that path and you know

00:23:23.480 individuals need to learn to be able to do that with themselves and if you're leading a team and

00:23:28.520 you're having a hard time with your team staying disciplined being committed to what you're wanting

00:23:32.920 your team and your business and your your organization be able to do you have to make sure that they know

00:23:38.180 what they need to do and why the why drives a what but the good leaders are going to take the time

00:23:44.320 to say hey dj this is what you need to be doing and this is why how do you want to do it and when i

00:23:50.340 when i allow dj to create the how guess what he has ownership because it's his plan now if dj's plan

00:23:56.880 is like horrible i'm going to give him some ideas like hey i actually hey dj i really like the base of

00:24:02.620 that what are your thoughts on adding this and this and this to it how would you do this and add

00:24:09.120 it to your plan it's still his right i'm giving him the ideas i'm i'm flanking him by giving like

00:24:15.240 hey how would you do this he's like well i would do it this way hey man that's really good why don't

00:24:19.600 you go run with your plan dj well now dj has ownership and he's going to be committed to that plan

00:24:26.100 and so you can do that on an individual and then you can do the same thing with your teams

00:24:30.200 two things that come to my mind one is that i love how you sort of craftily transitioned my

00:24:35.120 emphasis from desire into discipline because yeah it's true that we can have this subjective

00:24:40.600 feeling of oh i want this so bad but our our emotions can lie to us but our actions won't lie

00:24:47.040 to us the best way to know that you really want something is to actually set a plan execute plan

00:24:53.340 follow through again and again without compromise without deviation which leads to my second point which

00:24:58.060 is i don't want to assume that everybody who's listening to us has this great knowledge of what

00:25:03.020 75 hard is so and you you don't know what it is just real straightened to the point and he designed

00:25:08.800 this uh just crazy effective program that's based on five critical tasks that you perform every day for

00:25:15.320 75 days without deviation without compromise and where other programs talk about creating discipline

00:25:22.440 this one gives you the practical process by which discipline is formed within you so if you don't

00:25:28.700 know what 75 hard is check it out 75hard.com sign up for it it's free of course you can buy the book

00:25:35.620 which is not free but but the program is free uh and yet it's invaluable i mean it's priceless that book

00:25:42.100 i mean if you're if you're doing 75 i actually there's a guy at my jujitsu gym great guy love him

00:25:47.800 and he was like hey man can you can you help me work on like my mental toughness and just

00:25:51.600 you know he's a good guy he's really smart but he just he quits on himself and he recognized that and

00:25:58.100 i the fact that he showed humility and was like hey man can you help me with this and i was like

00:26:02.100 absolutely love the guy he's awesome and i told him i'm like hey i know 75 hard probably isn't the

00:26:08.660 right thing for you right now in your life but the book is i was like you need to buy that book read the

00:26:13.220 book i have told everybody i can just just buy the book even if you don't do 75 hard do buy the book

00:26:18.900 follow it and guess what if somebody buys that book they're going to want to do 75 hard and when they

00:26:23.040 understand why it's important for them to do it they'll do it but yeah the book was it was awesome

00:26:28.700 my biggest thing from the book was you know basically telling your that inner bitch voice that we all have

00:26:35.620 to shut up like just turn it off just turn it off and i've always told people that like just over the

00:26:40.860 years like hey turn up turn off that switch on the inside your mind is telling you that this is

00:26:44.800 hard this is difficult you're tired just shut that off and then to hear it andy say the same thing

00:26:49.720 but just a little more effectively like hey tell your little inner bitch voice to shut up i'm like

00:26:53.740 i really like that and then the other thing is do the things that suck because so many times people

00:27:00.600 they want to pick that easy route they they it's natural it's ingrained into us as humans to pick

00:27:06.500 the easy route but what we have to do is ingrain into ourselves to actually do the things that suck

00:27:11.440 to to do the hard things and when you're willing to do the hard things that gives you the things that

00:27:16.480 other people can't get every yeah there's a you know how many men across the the world have wanted

00:27:22.820 to be navy seals like hundreds of thousands of men have said i would love to be a navy seal you know

00:27:28.340 how many of them have actually ever done it it's a small percentage because the commitment to do

00:27:32.940 that hard stuff people don't want to do it they're not willing to do it and that's i needed to be

00:27:39.280 reminded i mean i was a navy seal for almost 12 years i had some pretty awesome times in the seal

00:27:44.420 teams had some pretty good combat deployments i got out i was doing mma as my transitional stress

00:27:50.340 relief you know i had some mma fights i liked i've always been okay with doing the hard stuff but

00:27:55.980 i had i'd kind of lost that way in that path because i let my life get unbalanced and when i read 75

00:28:02.880 hard those are the two things that you know tell your bitch voice to shut up and do the hard things

00:28:09.320 and so now every since i started 75 hard and now i'm in phase one it's awesome because when i'll look

00:28:15.780 at stuff that i need to do my short my i evaluate it i'm like cool i'm going to pick the harder of

00:28:21.060 those two and you have a sense of pride in that and when people decide to pick the hard things and do

00:28:26.720 the hard things it will naturally over time boost their confidence their ability to actually go out

00:28:33.100 there and produce at a higher level and it's only going to elevate your life and it's going to switch

00:28:37.060 your mindset to where it goes back to what we're talking about like what are you committed to

00:28:42.500 what you know you know discipline is rooted in the in the in the truth that we tell ourselves

00:28:48.120 well the truth that we tell ourselves are also going to evolve over time as i get mentally

00:28:53.820 stronger and more capable and i have a better skill set to do stuff guess what i can actually

00:28:59.980 tell myself that i can do stuff at a higher level over time and i know that's why i love

00:29:05.660 sal and andy have always talked about that is their mindset has been evolving over the years

00:29:10.740 they visualize this they knew they were going to be at this level but there's times in our lives

00:29:15.260 that we're actually held back and restricted by our beliefs and 75 hard got that mindset back to

00:29:21.720 where it needed to be and it just it changes everything it's it's hard to describe well on

00:29:28.600 that note the creator of 75 hard just entered the building welcome mfco good to see you brother

00:29:34.060 good i don't know how much time i missed but about 30 minutes was it 30 minutes you guys been going so

00:29:38.720 far we talked about what you're doing in that stall oh hey man what'd you have for dinner last night

00:29:45.880 all right hey nah is you know we're we're look man sometimes you gotta take care of shit yeah it is

00:29:52.000 literally yeah no but i mean back to you know to jp's point about belief you know nope nobody's

00:29:58.800 going to believe in you until you believe in yourself that's the that's you talk about doing

00:30:02.060 the hard things and then and then you know re-centering your tolerance for what you're capable of

00:30:06.760 is is you know to your point and andrew's point you know if you come to a fork in the road

00:30:12.420 take the hard option the hard option then becomes the new normal and then then the new normal

00:30:17.260 becomes your your new goals the next stretch and that belief that is rooted through actually doing

00:30:23.400 the work it's compounding in life you know and where you look at and we sit in this building today

00:30:28.080 right and you're thinking at one point in time dude i mean 10 years ago we're sitting in the old

00:30:32.900 beginning of the s2 building and if you would have fucking said to us back then or we would have said

00:30:37.540 to somebody back then or when we said to people back then like hey we're gonna be in this

00:30:41.120 fucking state-of-the-art you know two hundred thousand i fucking told them no i didn't fucking

00:30:46.080 listen but but there's only two people here there's two people in this company that listen they're both

00:30:50.420 still here and guess what they both get paid no but that that belief like motherfucker you think

00:30:57.700 anybody believed i don't really give a fuck people believe but yeah i agree they didn't you can't but

00:31:03.580 but dude look man that this is the number one complaint we hear from fucking people trying to get

00:31:08.220 started dude is you know oh well you know i told my dad this idea he said it was stupid well no shit

00:31:15.100 he did because he never did nothing like that and neither have you so like dude there's there's this

00:31:21.240 um there's this mentality in society about how people think when it comes to starting something new

00:31:29.180 or or setting a big goal or a dream or or trying to win they think that people should just like

00:31:35.520 like like guys it doesn't work that way like people don't believe in you until after you've

00:31:42.300 already done enough that it becomes clearly visible that you're going to accomplish whatever

00:31:46.000 the fuck it is you said then a few people gonna believe right like you're gonna get a couple but

00:31:51.600 like dude most people are not going to celebrate until you're there dude and then what they're going

00:31:55.860 to tell you is oh man i really believed in you oh i knew you could do it yeah like i had a tour

00:32:01.140 today andrew you loved it there's a guy who came to the facility today i met him did you yeah and it

00:32:07.100 was one of the silent haters yeah you know what i'm saying like and hey bro i could feel it on him

00:32:12.580 yeah gift basket hey hey can you want a gift basket and i was telling one of the guys like hey man

00:32:16.560 like we give gift baskets out all the time you know try to support as many local charities physically

00:32:20.680 possible and do as i mean can't even tell you how many we give out a week but then one comes across

00:32:26.500 and i'm like oh yeah well look dude i mean that's look man and you know also i too i look people you

00:32:35.820 guys who are out there and you're trying like 2021 right and you're like fuck it i'm done with all

00:32:40.160 this drama i'm gonna try to build something good that's where you should be but don't expect people

00:32:44.460 to come through and fucking support you because they're not like dude your friends and family

00:32:49.500 don't give a fuck about you in that way i'm just being honest they're busy with their own shit

00:32:53.660 they're they're worried about their bills they want to play their fucking video games they want

00:32:58.200 to go out on their thursday friday saturday sundays and fucking party and they don't give a

00:33:02.700 fuck about what you say you're going to do and you have to understand too most people don't even know

00:33:08.500 one truly successful person most people don't know one person like they don't know one most people

00:33:15.000 don't know one motherfucker in their life that has actually achieved what it is they see to be

00:33:20.760 the the look of being successful right so so of course it's going to be hard to believe it's

00:33:26.840 possible if you've never seen it how the fuck you're going to believe it's possible that's why

00:33:30.860 it's important to go fill your brain with things that make that seem normal that that's why it's

00:33:37.040 important to surround yourself with the highest quality people possible and i'm not talking about

00:33:42.860 people who talk about all the shit they're doing i'm talking about when you're a fucking broke guy

00:33:47.160 trying to buddy up to people who aren't trying to learn from people who aren't trying to surround

00:33:52.100 yourself with people who have achieved things because those things over time naturally acclimate

00:33:57.460 you to the proper mindset that it's going to take to actually achieve and then once you start

00:34:02.500 actually achieving then you're going to get some people that are come along they're going to say

00:34:06.180 some nice things to you but you're not going to need it at that time that's the beauty of it

00:34:10.600 right like dude i appreciate when people say nice shit to me but it really it doesn't raise my

00:34:15.320 belief thermostat and myself one degree like it's like hey thank you very much i appreciate that and

00:34:22.120 i'm grateful for it but like it's not affecting me on the inside and dude that's how you got to be

00:34:27.980 when you're starting too you've got to get yourself to a point where it doesn't matter what motherfuckers

00:34:32.120 say it's not affecting you on the inside so you're still dude i'm going to tell you you and i were

00:34:37.520 talking about this in the locker room this morning dude i have a perspective that most people don't

00:34:42.720 have right like i've achieved a whole bunch of shit and that's not me bragging that's a matter

00:34:46.760 of fucking fact all right there's multiple companies i've built that are very successful

00:34:51.920 that employ a fuck ton of people that you can go fucking see right now not these like fucking fake

00:34:57.520 entrepreneurs online that got a cool bio about all the shit they did but you never heard of them

00:35:01.380 like dude you come to st louis i'll fucking show you around and you can see what the fuck i did

00:35:06.040 okay so it's not me bragging it's matter of fact now i have the perspective and sal does too of

00:35:12.480 building actual things now was there any magic to it no the only magic is we got back up and kept

00:35:20.560 going that's it and so the perspective i was trying to explain to you this morning is it's easy for me

00:35:27.120 to see what it actually takes because i've done it and like it's hard for people who haven't done it to

00:35:32.100 believe because they haven't seen it done nor have they done it so you guys are gonna have to like

00:35:39.140 give me a little trust here man i'm not gonna mislead you i'm fucking telling you it's one plus

00:35:44.740 one equals motherfucking two and that's it i i think we talked about this last time and i know

00:35:52.540 we've talked about this a lot when i was when i decided and committed that i was going to be a navy

00:35:57.260 seal i i knew i was going to be a navy seal before i even actually joined the military when i went and

00:36:02.080 talked to those recruiters and they laughed when i walked in and i told them hey i want to be a navy

00:36:06.380 seal and they all laughed and i was like check and then they told me hey we can't do anything with

00:36:10.460 that cast on your hand i said awesome went back told my dad he's like when do you want to leave i

00:36:15.380 said as soon as possible and we cut my cast off that night i'd only had the cast on for like 11 days

00:36:21.280 you know i had all this stuff going on but that was my commitment i was like i'm doing this

00:36:25.460 i'm committed i'm willing to do what other people won't do yeah i'm not the smartest i know that

00:36:30.680 i'm not the fastest the strongest but guess what we're aware i'm willing to outwork everybody else

00:36:36.540 around me and i'm just that's part of it but that's all it is bro but nobody believed in me

00:36:40.980 except my mom and dad and my grandparents well fuck you're lucky then no i know and i'm very

00:36:46.900 and that's what i was gonna say is like i'm lucky but going in because nobody like everybody

00:36:53.760 told me like man you know how many people quit trying to become a navy seal because none of them

00:36:58.120 knew navy seals they only knew people that quit and they knew all those statistics and you know

00:37:04.000 i wrote this down before you came in and what you're just saying i said nobody cares about

00:37:07.900 nobody cares about you until you show them your value yeah you have to take action and actually

00:37:13.160 do something before anybody's ever going to listen to you but then again but nobody owes you anything

00:37:18.420 yeah but that's why the problem here bro is that that flies in the face of the fucking social

00:37:22.140 narrative that we're told right now yeah social narrative right now is know your worth well if

00:37:26.820 you ain't done anything you ain't worth nothing motherfucker that's the fucking truth right like

00:37:31.500 do you have potential yes have you executed on the potential no so right now your your value is

00:37:39.300 in the world now i didn't make up the fucking rules man i'm just telling you if you go into a

00:37:43.920 fucking company and say hey pay me a million dollars that's my fucking worth they're gonna laugh

00:37:48.140 you out of the motherfucking building so like this is where i'm going with this like you guys have to

00:37:53.300 understand if you're gonna be something great you got to be willing to start very humbly and not great

00:38:00.040 and be okay with that and dude i'll be real with you man those times in my life those times in your

00:38:06.600 life where you're talking about cutting bro those are my best memories of fucking life you know why would

00:38:12.660 you want to like i can understand like in the moment you know when you have no money and you

00:38:18.340 have a shitty car and you got nobody believing in you i could understand how that feels because i was

00:38:25.980 there but the other thing i could tell you is man there ain't nothing better than shoving those

00:38:31.000 motherfucking words down everybody's fucking throat well but i could personally say and it's funny because

00:38:36.120 i'm thinking about this now like been around almost what a year now yeah right and we've had some

00:38:41.760 very deep conversations about this like those ones those ones at night you know yeah yeah and uh you

00:38:46.540 know but like your head on the pillow yeah yeah like no but like dj like you're gonna you're gonna

00:38:51.880 be okay in life like you're gonna do some good shit right you're gonna be here right and so like me

00:38:55.340 listening to them like okay i hear you but then having people that don't believe in you it was like

00:39:01.180 confirmation almost that like okay yeah no i'm doing it right right because for example like not

00:39:05.980 2020 was a great year for me right you know doing really good stuff got a daughter got a great

00:39:11.420 fucking beautiful house right my own mom thinks that i'm a fucking drug dealer right she has no

00:39:17.780 like like that's confirmation to me they're like okay that means she don't really think that no no

00:39:22.240 no no no no no no no no andy no no no no come on she believes i'm el mayo bro like it's real shit

00:39:27.400 but it's but it's weird because it's confirmation that like okay i'm actually doing it because no

00:39:32.260 what it's confirmation is bro you're doing so good that it's exceeding even the possibility of

00:39:37.220 expectations what their norm is of what could be possible so they have it has to be something else

00:39:41.740 right that's a good thing no i mean that's what i'm saying like so i'm having like that that mind

00:39:45.860 flip right so it's okay well i'm i'm doing it i'm doing it right like i'm doing good like this is

00:39:50.560 good this is good i just thought that was a very very funny well you are doing it bro no i'm happy

00:39:54.920 man i'm doing i asked you the other day i said i said was 2020 the best year of your life yeah

00:39:59.260 absolutely yeah no question absolutely like you know look man but i mean but to tie in your point

00:40:06.220 i mean it's perspective yeah somebody tie this shit together yeah well there's a couple things i mean

00:40:10.340 there's perspective and i and this is something that you know we get up on monday mornings we talk

00:40:14.060 to our staff and tell them all the time like you know some of the worst days of my life quote unquote

00:40:19.280 were the work that had to be put in or the stress working on christmas night trying to get the my

00:40:24.680 transformation site together and the new year being there new year's eve and being there at three o'clock

00:40:28.340 morning like thinking what the fuck am i doing but the perspective that it gives you when you're

00:40:32.720 able to look back on it is the understanding of like that's what it takes in order to be great

00:40:36.620 right and i wish like that's something that these you know our guys will never have but not all of

00:40:42.240 our guys but our staff our new staff members are going to walk into this beautiful building and see

00:40:45.580 these beautiful things but that's how instagram is they want to show you the dude that's why you

00:40:49.840 got to set your goals so fucking big like dude we're we're not even started yet you know i'm

00:40:53.660 saying yeah of course like dude in 10 years these motherfuckers are going to be like

00:40:56.800 remember the old building that old building they don't even know the four old buildings that we

00:41:01.980 had before this old building well we're going to say yeah the motherfucker you know we thought it was

00:41:05.940 a goddamn country club i mean the one that gave us all the gray hair did you not okay for real did

00:41:10.260 you not think the one we had before this was a country club bro it was like i mean i thought it

00:41:14.480 was really nice i thought it was great there's a fucking tank on the wall in the conference room i'm

00:41:18.700 like oh this is badass yeah when i drove off that first time now if you went there right now what

00:41:22.660 would you think well it's not even that you should you should hear these guys talk about it like

00:41:26.440 our sales staff they'll be like man you didn't even know the last one was a hellhole last one

00:41:29.760 dude you know you're like wait that was our fucking dream but when they were there yeah when they were

00:41:34.460 there it was amazing it's it's people so it's perspective change their perspective bro it's look

00:41:40.520 man it's like but that's what i'm trying to say about acclimating yourself to success because when

00:41:46.280 you start acclimating when you were fucking delivering pizzas bro how many fucking rich people

00:41:50.200 were you around not very many now who the fuck are you around all the time yes so and and has that

00:41:58.500 improved your life okay so that's what i'm trying to explain to you younger people like the young bucks

00:42:04.520 listening right like dude you guys have to understand that you will acclimate to whatever you put yourself

00:42:10.060 into whether that be uncomfortable situations whether that be situations with dude you have to put

00:42:16.620 yourself in the place that you want to be before you're ready to do it and then it'll be uncomfortable

00:42:22.540 as fuck and then you'll acclimate just like a cold swimming pool dude you ever get in a pool and you're

00:42:27.320 like whoa and like you had to run in real quick or you got to make a decision like am i going to make

00:42:32.760 this take like 10 minutes or am i just going to do it what's the better option joe just do it did

00:42:38.300 you know you got to share the the analogy that you shared before which is a great analogy on every

00:42:43.040 house that you've had and every hill that you ran yeah share that that's a great analogy yeah so so

00:42:47.840 dude my house that i lived in two houses ago it was my first like real house right like uh when i

00:42:55.360 say real house i mean house that wasn't a fucking complete shithole all right and it was it was what

00:43:01.440 i would say a nice middle class home it's a great neighborhood i went and did my cardio every day and

00:43:07.160 and you know um it was i thought it was hard right i thought it was hard at the time uh the hills

00:43:14.760 around the house were you know there was hills and shit right and i'm like at the time i was like

00:43:19.820 fuck this is hard i if it was any harder i couldn't do it well then i moved to my second house my and

00:43:25.200 my other house that i the the house i lived in right before the one i live in now and the fucking hills

00:43:30.000 were way worse and i and guess what i did i did it anyway yeah i went out and did the fucking hills

00:43:35.140 and guess what happened i lost 100 fucking pounds and i i said to myself fuck these hill like dude i

00:43:40.440 had i called the one hill over there death mountain dude like for real because you would die walking up

00:43:45.240 it dude and it was hard and i i would i would tell i'm like man like i would even tell you i remember

00:43:52.220 we would argue over whose hills were worse right then i move into the new house the the big house that

00:43:58.380 i'm in now which is insane um and the hills are even harder than that and it's just such a good

00:44:06.520 parallel for leveling up in life right like dude if you want the big prize you're gonna have to go up

00:44:12.100 the big motherfucking hills and that's just it and so we have to understand that that's we can always

00:44:18.480 acclimate ourselves to more pressure and more uh harder things and when we do because of the nature

00:44:26.280 of acclimation it actually will become easy okay when you first start 75 hard on the first 15 days

00:44:33.340 you're sore as fuck you don't want to do shit you're like fuck dude i can't do this for 75 days

00:44:38.380 but you get to day 35 you're like damn dude i'm cruising i'm making great progress you get to day 60

00:44:44.380 you're like holy fuck dude i'm almost done with 75 that went quick right and like dude that's that's

00:44:51.000 acclimation you're learning how it works and it works like that every area of life whether it be

00:44:55.780 your relationships whether it be your fitness whether it be your finances uh you're building

00:45:01.440 a company like literally anything the harder that you put dude it's just real basic shit

00:45:07.260 you know that's why i got tired of doing msco project because it really is so basic that like

00:45:13.500 it's it's like i'm repeating myself like dude you fucking put inputs you'll get equal outputs it's

00:45:19.200 just the reality well people don't want to they always want the shortcut they always want the hack

00:45:24.300 yeah that's one of my a top favorite line of jocko is you know from discipline equals freedom

00:45:29.420 field man you know he's like there is no shortcut there's no hack it's discipline and that's why

00:45:33.480 that quote i have written at the top of every page in here and it'll be written at the top until i'm

00:45:38.060 done with this notebook is discipline is rooted in the truth that we tell ourselves people aren't

00:45:42.120 willing to be disciplined they're not willing to commit and you're just talking about changing and

00:45:47.100 leveling up one of my best friends his dad i remember hearing him say this and it's always stuck

00:45:52.000 with me he said change your friends or change your friends meaning change the way your friends

00:45:58.540 think and the change the way your thing your friends do things in life or replace or change

00:46:03.240 who your friends are if you're wanting to level up in life if you want to get more out of life

00:46:07.800 and i will i will counter one thing that you guys said you're like there's no magic no you guys had

00:46:12.740 the the magic of belief and i know someone who's make fun of me for saying magic and belief but

00:46:17.400 the reason why i say that is because not enough people actually believe in themselves and believe

00:46:21.960 in their abilities to do something but that's where people get stuck is they're like well i

00:46:26.060 believe i can do it no okay yes without belief nothing is possible but with belief alone nothing

00:46:32.580 is possible it requires you deciding that you're going to take action you have to move forward with

00:46:38.880 your plan it's this nobody's going to do it there's a fucking pile of rocks right there dude

00:46:42.900 move it's got to move it over here how can we fucking wish that rocks over here can we believe

00:46:48.340 the rocks over here uh i don't think so no i i fucking well if you know how i'll tell me because

00:46:52.500 i'd fucking like to know so many motherfuckers out there talk about manifesting which i'm a huge

00:46:56.440 believer in you fucking think you're going to manifest those rocks from there to there and you

00:47:00.640 fucking not well and the part the part that everybody's missing is we can have the belief we can

00:47:05.460 have this we can have that all those things are relevant 100 because you have to have your mind

00:47:10.020 right to do the action but without the action nothing's happening nobody nobody's willing to

00:47:15.040 take action and i think because most people don't know when to take action or the times that they've

00:47:20.720 taken action before it was a mistake they screwed up whatever so they don't want to do it again

00:47:25.520 yeah one of the other instructors he's one of my best friends dave burke he was a top gun pilot

00:47:29.920 he ran the top gun school he was one of the marines that was with us in the ground in ramadi

00:47:35.080 he works with us at echelon front he gives a brief and he talks about the ooda loop the ooda loop is a

00:47:40.500 decision making process observe orient decide act and people get so stuck in the whole they've they're

00:47:49.800 observing what's happening in their life okay and they're they decide okay this is how i'm oriented

00:47:53.940 within that i'm going to decide what i'm going to do i'm going to decide what i'm going to do i'm

00:47:57.840 going to decide what they do and then when they actually decide that they're going to take action

00:48:02.100 the whole environment has changed and then they they wonder why their actions didn't align

00:48:08.260 it's because they hesitated the ooda loop was designed by john boyd who's a fighter pilot so

00:48:13.500 that you know planes that were considered to be not as superior could actually outmaneuver and win

00:48:18.280 in in dog fights and so if you take that decision making process to what whatever you do in life

00:48:23.900 you have to do all four parts of it but it's not just start to finish and you're good sometimes you

00:48:30.420 decide and then as you're getting ready to act you evaluate where you actually are and so now

00:48:35.640 you're like wait hold on i'm gonna have to change what i'm deciding to do because my situation change

00:48:39.980 has changed and your your capabilities also as an individual are going to change like you're saying

00:48:45.580 like the the circle of people that i get to hang out with now it's ridiculous i am so incredibly lucky

00:48:52.140 i know that i know how lucky you're lucky dude you did the work well yes but i also understand that

00:48:57.900 i'm very lucky to have friend like the friends that i have the fact that i can call you guys i can text

00:49:02.540 you guys you know the fact that i work for jocko and leif that you know just my connection like the

00:49:07.600 fact i have a signature energy drink is ridiculous it's absolutely ridiculous how things have evolved

00:49:14.660 through the connections with origin and you guys and everybody like it's it's extremely humbling well

00:49:20.620 no you're just a super grateful dude but i can promise you i've been right i've been right here

00:49:25.540 watching you for pretty much this whole fucking time uh you didn't get lucky dude this is now a

00:49:31.320 good time to tell you that your friendship do is it's up yeah you owe me some money and in dave

00:49:37.440 burke's honor the guy posts the best pictures of fighter of fighter jets on the internet yeah his

00:49:42.620 his fucking you follow that guy his fucking dude he posts like the most badass pictures of fighter jets

00:49:47.440 on the fucking thing i never get tired of looking at that it's fucking awesome they're not they are

00:49:51.320 legitimately sexy pictures you're just like fuck yeah but this is what's great right so i wrote these

00:49:56.400 words down as everybody's talking is before this i wrote these even before inner came in because

00:50:00.500 these are things that i wanted to hit on him one was perspective we walked into we talked about it

00:50:04.300 next one's action next one's honesty because without honesty like that action don't fucking matter

00:50:10.060 because are you really doing the work that talked about accountability you're the first person to quit

00:50:13.880 on yourself but if you're committed to the team you're committed to each other and i think when you

00:50:17.800 talk about belief like the one thing like him chris andrew jason not like and there's a few others

00:50:22.080 like we've already been through a lot of shit together we already understand where the breaking

00:50:25.980 points are we understand where we're going like and we believe in each other so it's a hey i ain't

00:50:30.400 gonna quit on you don't quit on me i understand i'm gonna have bad days you're gonna have bad days

00:50:33.500 it might be bad weeks might be bad might be bad months yeah but hey we're gonna fucking roll if

00:50:37.740 it's me it's bad months but if it's everybody else it's like a bad day that's it but then that's life

00:50:42.560 you know and i look at those things and it's kind of odd that we're circling back through you know

00:50:45.820 you think about your circle is a huge fucking commitment to life because the energy that you

00:50:51.660 drive around your daily actions every single day is contagious both good and bad you know dude fuck

00:50:57.480 yeah you know how many times i get asked in a fucking week if we want to sell our company like

00:51:02.140 what the fuck would i do that's a scary thought honestly like i'm gonna be real honest like that

00:51:08.500 makes me nervous as a friend i'd be on the fucking internet every day screaming at everybody dude like

00:51:13.520 i would have i would hate everybody like you would you would start you guys would start another

00:51:18.060 company that would be even more impactful because that's what's ingrained into them no it's service

00:51:23.680 yeah but you know you guys are ingrained the thing is the poor ingrained yeah for sure but my point is

00:51:28.900 you could farm i go farming dude we could farm i got a tractor house magazine right here guys i know

00:51:34.060 what do you do what dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun i'd be down fuck i'd do it i'd do it

00:51:42.180 we'd have a pretty good cabinet you could be our defense secretary i don't even want i i'm going to

00:51:47.740 address all of that but just not today on this show all right but can i layer this on there on

00:51:52.100 this conversation because i think it's relevant so about a month and a half two months ago it's i

00:51:56.200 think it's been that long since we haven't seen you in a minute i know it's been a while and i was

00:52:00.240 i was in a funk i was not doing well all right so uh andy could kind of tell we walked i dude i

00:52:06.240 wish we had this on tape because i think it would be like a million dollars for just you know the seven

00:52:10.220 seven minutes established you can't walk in vaughn and just ask for a million fucking i know i know i

00:52:14.480 know but anyway so we walked in never stop him from trying

00:52:18.420 so so we walked into the awesome new you know conference room that you have in there where i

00:52:26.880 assume you guys are doing your your weekly meetings now is that what you're doing

00:52:30.060 i miss those some of the auditorium yeah yeah bro we got more people in the auditorium

00:52:34.020 anyway so we can't even do our meetings is that right yeah it's crazy so we go there's this white

00:52:39.580 board there andy writes this this long line it it it basically arcs and then it dips and then it

00:52:45.380 levels out and he's like dude this is what i notice about you and this is true of a lot of people

00:52:48.820 he said when you're up here he put his you know finger at the top of the arc he said you think you're

00:52:54.000 a baller you're you know you're killing it you're doing it everybody's like that he's like but but

00:52:58.740 you're not you're just somebody he's been doing the habits performing the critical tasks that

00:53:04.000 makes people successful that's right but he said when you when then you you said you pointed at the

00:53:07.880 bottom and you said and when you're down here you like pile on yourself you're like i'm a piece of

00:53:13.300 shit and i'm horrible he's like but you're not you're just someone who stopped doing the things

00:53:19.920 that made you successful that's it so instead of trying to convince yourself that you're a baller or a

00:53:24.500 loser just do the critical task that's it bro and like that's life it's a fucking performance curve

00:53:30.980 so like it's like a bell curve okay like for those of you guys watch on youtube it's you know it looks

00:53:36.080 like this like a regular bell curve when people are down here at the beginning where it's flat

00:53:40.380 they're they're they don't know what to do they're like fuck i don't know what to do so somebody

00:53:45.460 somehow get or themselves they figure out something to do and they start executing on something

00:53:51.200 and really honestly the fact that they're executing on something is really it doesn't

00:53:56.820 matter what the fuck it is it's just because if you're smart and you start to do the wrong things

00:54:01.940 you're gonna notice it pretty quick so they start to follow the plan and they get better right and

00:54:07.480 they get a little better and then they're following the plan they're like holy fuck dude i'm making some

00:54:11.120 good progress and then they follow the plan they follow the plan they follow the plan they're up here

00:54:15.380 now they're a high performer and instead of saying fuck dude the plan's really good i did all the i

00:54:20.140 execute the plan what do they start thinking they start letting their own their their hubris and

00:54:24.880 their ego take over and they're like fuck i'm great look how good i am i got so good and then

00:54:29.520 they abandoned the motherfucking plane that got them up to this point and and and then what happens is

00:54:34.520 they start to fall off and they start to come down and they start to come down and now over here

00:54:38.180 they're like what the fuck is going on i have no idea i was so good i don't know why things are

00:54:41.840 working out why they weren't working and then they get down here to the flat and they're like this is

00:54:45.740 where they get over here and they become like this again and they start to become hopeless and they

00:54:50.320 actually humble themselves and they say well fuck clearly i don't know what the fuck i'm doing and

00:54:54.580 then it starts over and they start back over here and it goes like most people live their whole life

00:54:58.560 like this over and over and over again when in reality the goal is to fucking get on the curve and

00:55:04.080 stay on it so it keeps going like that and the only reason that you're able to do that or any of us

00:55:09.120 can do that is if we eliminate ourselves from our own ego and say all right look the actions

00:55:14.520 are responsible for the result i'm not responsible for the result

00:55:18.840 the actions what i ate is what got me here not me how much weight i lifted what's got me here

00:55:26.700 not me okay do doing the emails doing the work going to the meetings doing this that creating the

00:55:32.940 products do that's what got me here not me and you have to separate yourself from the actions that

00:55:39.400 you took and if you can do that now you're in a good spot because now you can control

00:55:45.040 the curve in a way where it's productive across your entire life instead of spending your life

00:55:52.220 spinning your wheels repeating the same pattern over and over so after i had that after you gave me that

00:55:57.540 pep talk i mean the the kind of the aha moment for me was oh man the bitch voice wants me get to get

00:56:03.980 into this completely unproductive inner dialogue about who i really am with where in reality mental

00:56:10.240 toughness who cares who i really am it's what i do that matters well what you do will produce who you

00:56:15.800 are right but i mean like the bitch voice wants you to spin your wheels going am i really a loser

00:56:20.040 or am i really a people want to like they want to assign a value to themselves before they've even

00:56:24.040 gotten a fucking game yeah how the fuck you know your value how you know your value at being a

00:56:28.680 football player if you've never played a fucking game of football vaughn wants a million dollars

00:56:33.240 yeah but that's dude if you really think about this listen that's what most people do in life

00:56:38.620 they they speculate to the point of inaction and then have regrets that they never did anything

00:56:45.000 and then they get bitter that that it's somebody else's fucking fault that they didn't do anything

00:56:49.960 when in reality dude you didn't even fucking try and people allow that complacency to creep in yeah

00:56:55.980 like as you're talking through the bell curve like i had this written down and then i was like okay

00:56:59.960 well there it is complacency kills that's one of the things i've been whenever i speak with companies

00:57:04.680 and you know or on social media i i really have been trying to push these complacency kills message

00:57:12.100 because that's exactly what's going to destroy everything good in your life right complacency creeps

00:57:17.280 in every single day now the good thing about that is that we know that you know when i'll talk

00:57:23.780 with people and they ask like okay well what do you like they want to know like this checklist of

00:57:28.260 things like when you're going to go hunt down the enemy and you're in combat and everything else like

00:57:32.780 that like what do you have to do first they they think about all those plans i'm like you can't do

00:57:37.340 anything until you actually know who the enemy is once you identified who you're going to go hunt

00:57:43.360 then you can start collecting intel and data and come up with a game plan okay hey this is what

00:57:48.420 they're capable this is what their strengths are this is what their weaknesses are here's what you know

00:57:52.780 here's what they're capable of doing against us against other people here's our capabilities

00:57:56.640 how does it match up here's our plan okay does our plan actually uh mean that we're going to win

00:58:01.940 like if we go start hunting them down or is there is there more of them than us like if it's not

00:58:07.680 balanced out and if it's not in the favor of us winning then that's not a smart plan people can't do

00:58:13.020 all that stuff until they figure out who the enemy is and i'm telling you right now the greatest enemy

00:58:18.680 that we're all up against every single day or one of the greatest enemies is complacency it's going

00:58:24.000 to creep in and when we allow it to creep in it becomes a habit and like you're saying it's just

00:58:29.780 it's there it's we expect it it's part of what it is and that's what i loved about 75 hard is it

00:58:36.620 it was combating complacency every single day you had to be dialed in like my one of my best friends

00:58:43.820 steven little just started 75 hard uh with uh our buddy tyler and cody and i are on phase one and

00:58:49.800 we're all doing our workouts together and and steven's like man he goes i was talking to my wife

00:58:55.260 and i was wondering like what was i doing with all my time before and i'm just like listening and i'm

00:58:59.760 getting ready to say and he goes i know what you're gonna say he goes i was complacent and i'm like

00:59:03.940 yeah you were bro i was like we all have been complacent he goes i actually made a commitment to my

00:59:08.420 wife and i it just made me so happy it made me so happy to hear my best friend say he goes i've

00:59:13.060 decided that every major milestone that i hit in business and life i'm going to start 75 hard

00:59:19.460 i'm going to restart it every time because that will keep me from being complacent because whenever

00:59:26.160 we hit milestones people tend to get complacent oh yeah people oh yeah most people because they're

00:59:31.100 like oh cool i'm there like you said you're like oh cool i'm there and then they stop doing all the

00:59:34.580 things that got them there and then they wonder why it fell apart the other reason why people do

00:59:39.660 that is they actually lose sight i have this written down mission first mindset they lose sight of what

00:59:44.400 their actual mission is and when i've talked about this a lot veterans that struggle when they get out

00:59:50.320 it's because they don't have a clear mission to find anymore when i was in the seal teams my mission

00:59:55.420 was very clear i loved what i did i was dialed in and i knew what i needed to do now it doesn't mean

01:00:01.620 i was always a great seal i was a shit bag sometimes and i got in trouble and i did things

01:00:05.940 i couldn't i shouldn't have done but i was able to still stay focused to accomplish the mission i

01:00:10.620 never not i never didn't do my job i had personal stuff that i allowed to creep in but i was it was

01:00:17.140 always reset by good leadership by kind of dialing me back in and retuning me and you know jaco did that

01:00:24.620 one time it was probably one one of the top powerful conversations that he's ever had with me

01:00:29.360 the number one was and i shared this with you guys before is when he pulled me aside he said hey

01:00:34.780 we're out in the middle of the desert doing our training and he pulls me aside and he says jp i

01:00:38.200 need you to put jp in big bold letters and tape on your helmet because i always need to know where

01:00:42.980 you're at because when i need something to be done or solved i need to know where you're at so you can

01:00:48.460 get that done he goes i need you to be my go-to guy i need you to be more aggressive i need you to

01:00:52.680 step up and lead i need you to help seth and the rest of the guys when he did that he instilled belief

01:00:57.240 into me which is so rare because we're going back like people don't believe in other people doing

01:01:02.080 stuff people aren't actually instilling belief into other people and that's why people won't do great

01:01:08.440 things i was young i was super young when he instilled that belief into me and he was giving

01:01:13.760 me ownership like i was talking about earlier like hey you tell your team member hey this is what you

01:01:17.680 need to do this is why how do you want to do it you allow them to create ownership he was giving me

01:01:22.460 ownership and that was a powerful conversation and the next powerful conversation that he had

01:01:27.460 with me is i wasn't in a good place he knew i wasn't happy i was at training i should have been

01:01:32.480 in a platoon getting ready to work up and go overseas and deploy again as a sniper and he pulled he's like

01:01:37.620 hey man he pulls me to the office he's like hey how are you i'm like i'm good he goes how are you and

01:01:42.340 i'm like i'm good he's like jp is jaco how are you and i just kind of broke down i was like

01:01:47.220 kind of let everything off my chest and he knew i wasn't happy because of the fact that i wasn't in

01:01:53.200 the platoon i wasn't going overseas like where i should have been he said jp more than anything i

01:01:58.540 want you deploying overseas as a sniper that's what we need more than anything but that's not the

01:02:03.940 current situation because that's not your job anymore that's not your mission your mission is to

01:02:09.520 be the best instructor possible so that we don't have to put our fucking dress blue uniforms on to go to

01:02:15.060 another fucking funeral again do you understand that and it was just that real conversation that

01:02:21.080 i had to shift my perspective and my mindset to what my actual mission was right not what i wanted

01:02:28.400 it to be right but what it actually was and what i was at that time capable of doing and the number

01:02:35.160 one mission for me at that time was to be the best instructor that i could be so that i could prepare

01:02:40.940 guys to go overseas and kill as many bad guys as possible and come home so that we didn't have to

01:02:46.480 go to another funeral of one of our best friends i've buried my roommates i've buried my best friends

01:02:51.420 it's a horrible thing to have to do i have to go get another bracelet because more guys have

01:02:56.440 passed away recently you have to be focused on what your mission is and if you fail to detach

01:03:04.600 from your emotions you'll never be able to clearly identify what your mission actually is and if you

01:03:10.900 don't have a clear understanding how are you supposed to go out there and execute it

01:03:14.440 dude you can't nope and i think i think that's normal though for most people to lose focus of what

01:03:20.420 their mission is like you'd be listening right now and you're probably wondering you know well

01:03:24.940 where do i start what's my mission well dude uh you could start by winning the war with yourself

01:03:30.440 that's what 75 hard's all about it's about training your own fucking brain to get it's a boot camp for

01:03:37.020 your fucking brain bro yep and it's about getting yourself in control of your emotions and control

01:03:42.340 of your productivity and control your discipline your mental toughness your confidence your belief

01:03:47.120 in yourself and to actually know what the fuck you're capable of because if you don't know what

01:03:51.340 you're capable of and you don't understand that you can actually do a lot more than what then what

01:03:55.900 are you going to accomplish in life it's not going to be relative to what your potential is at all

01:03:59.980 and you're going to have regrets your program is so well designed and i remember when you were

01:04:04.320 developing 75 hard you're like we actually talked a few times about it you asked me questions

01:04:08.120 and i told you i was like man this is actually embarrassing because i was designing a challenge

01:04:12.720 at the time for me and my buddies to do and then when you kind of showed me what 75 hard is going to

01:04:17.480 be i was like dude that's the deal right and like because i wasn't taking the time to actually think

01:04:23.020 about the effects like you went to just such a unique level about how it affects every aspect

01:04:30.860 of your life because you've gotten where people want to be in life and i know what you're getting

01:04:35.480 ready to say you're like i'm just getting started i'm not even where i want to be but where you're at

01:04:39.500 right now bro people would love to have one tenth of where you and sal are when it comes to business

01:04:45.040 and life people would want 10 of what you guys have and people have to just trust the process

01:04:53.000 and that's what i've told everybody you know i have somebody's like oh i don't know about this

01:04:57.700 aspect and they're like oh i don't do i don't do selfies cool well guess what you're not having to

01:05:04.180 post them but there's a reason for it the reason why you know that's what i told him i was like dude

01:05:09.040 when i read the book and i listened to the podcast again because i was kind of like man i don't want

01:05:13.080 to do selfies because that's just not who i am anymore and i'm not going to post them on social

01:05:17.320 media because of what i do with echelon front but then when i when i read what you said you're like

01:05:22.260 it's not about posting taking a selfie it's about doing the menial tasks that you think don't matter

01:05:27.780 and in reality the small things matter in life and so many people are willing just to not do the small

01:05:34.220 things because they think they don't matter they want the shortcut they want the hack there is no

01:05:38.520 shortcut there is no hack you have to be disciplined there's a hack if you want to be fucking like

01:05:42.240 everybody else you just hack your way through life yeah seems cool yeah so on that note one of

01:05:47.620 the obvious foundational principles is no compromise no deviation and dude talk a little bit because

01:05:53.060 we're obviously talking about commitment why is inflexibility such a big deal like why can't

01:05:57.020 somebody just say andy i got the spirit of this why can't i customize it to my unique situation

01:06:02.720 because that's what everybody does anyway that's why you are where the fuck you are because you

01:06:06.740 compromise on fucking everything look dude oh i had two good days i guess i can celebrate with a

01:06:12.700 drink this day or you know what i have five good days in my diet i'm i earned this or you know oh it's

01:06:18.840 only it's only four reps instead of you know six i was supposed to do or you know i only sent that

01:06:25.600 i was supposed to send 10 emails but i i really only sent seven like and those cumulative compromises

01:06:31.440 over time create average that's the fucking problem ever if you look dude if you want to be

01:06:37.480 like everybody else cut corners because that's what everybody does that's why everybody else is

01:06:41.660 everybody else if you want to be exceptional you want to be great and you want to truly get the most

01:06:46.140 out of your own potential and your own brain and your own you have to train yourself to be

01:06:51.200 very rigid when it comes to making compromises and you shouldn't be making them when you say i'm going

01:06:57.800 to do x you shouldn't say well you know you get 10 days into it it's like oh well you know uh and

01:07:06.280 like that's dude that's our own bitch voice talking us out of becoming who the fuck we're supposed to

01:07:12.740 become and and so dude like you know everybody gets like that you know one thing i was thinking

01:07:20.040 about this it just came across when we're talking about all this what's easier than taking the easy

01:07:25.400 option make an excuse for not taking the hard one like like that's what came across my mind when i

01:07:30.880 just hearing all of this stuff and like dude it's so easy and i think that's it's unfortunate but that's

01:07:34.960 the culture we're in right now in this world where it's so easy to take the easy option right but it's

01:07:39.720 easier to make an excuse for not to well everywhere you look dude people will pacify you for it they'll

01:07:44.040 tell you oh it's okay oh dude you know what that program's a little too too uh self it's too restrictive

01:07:51.080 yeah let's do this let's do that let's do this and then you fucking look at these motherfuckers and

01:07:55.460 they're shoving fucking corndogs in their fucking mouth and they're fucking 50 pounds over fucking

01:08:00.220 weight that's a fucking fact okay so are you really going to listen to someone who doesn't have their

01:08:07.920 shit together talk you will not find one motherfucker that has their shit together that

01:08:11.840 you look at and you think damn dude that guy's fucking got it that's going to say oh you know what

01:08:17.420 it's okay you only did fucking eight reps said 10 not one mother not one they're not going to say

01:08:22.300 in any area not compromising is a fucking skill it's a skill it's a skill you can learn it and when

01:08:31.120 you learn it you become powerful you know i well you want to sorry i want to backtrack to jp one thank

01:08:40.120 you for the compliment but i think you look at it from a and i i receive that from a different you know

01:08:45.360 you say look at all the things you have and people would want one tenth of that and i think

01:08:50.000 through discipline or or life's journey in in general perspective respect just like with another

01:08:56.680 relationship respect is earned it's an earned trait respect for yourself is also an earned trait

01:09:01.520 and something that people skip the process in and and you know the the part that the part that

01:09:08.800 i'm personally most proud of is the person that looks back at me in the mirror you know when you

01:09:13.400 think about all the things in it you think about the struggle and the discipline and the commitment

01:09:16.940 and and the tough the decisions of the the tough decisions in life and going down and facing adversity

01:09:22.380 all of the things are cool but pride and pride in the process and self-respect is is really at the end of

01:09:32.360 the day all we have to hang our hats on and the journey that creates through tough work through the hard

01:09:36.940 decisions through doing what most people won't do is the pride that looks back at you in the mirror and so

01:09:42.280 like you know things are things but the self-respect that you have is transformable through your life

01:09:49.040 so that i can look at my kids or you know look at my guys or look at each other and say hey man like

01:09:53.560 you know that fucking tough route and it's almost like a high five like we did that you know we've done

01:09:58.180 that well the great thing is dude dude is that when you learn that okay most people think that comes

01:10:04.500 after all the success that's not true you got to fucking get what you're talking about before

01:10:10.300 the success and then the success comes yes that's why we when we talk about identifying the enemy the

01:10:16.200 enemy is fucking you bro it's you it's your own brain it's your own fucking bitch voice it's that

01:10:21.680 own version of yourself that is willing to accept a bullshit life that you're not really truly happy

01:10:27.940 with for the ease of right now that's the enemy okay so how are we going to attack that well that's

01:10:34.520 why i wrote the book you know i'm saying and that's why i put the program together because dude

01:10:38.380 like everybody else i wasn't born that way all right i was born a fat lazy little fucking

01:10:46.040 motherfucker that wanted to fucking get rich by in one day okay i fucking learned all the lessons

01:10:51.640 i just started a little earlier than most people so when you're thinking right now well yeah i'd have

01:10:59.100 confidence too if i if i was what they're doing or if i had this or if i know you wouldn't

01:11:04.320 no you wouldn't because you didn't do the work to build it most people that you think have

01:11:10.980 confidence don't have it they're faking it they're pretending i'm talking about that real shit that

01:11:18.960 real confidence that people can feel when you walk in a fucking room and the beauty about that is just

01:11:23.980 transferable that's right you know what i'm saying and we talked about this at lunch just like him

01:11:27.660 talking about jaco pulling him aside jaco has that jaco pull you what did i do for you when he said

01:11:33.080 that hey man i need you to fucking step up it was the most powerful conversation everyone anybody's

01:11:39.360 ever had with me in my life but he wouldn't have been able to give that to you if he didn't already

01:11:43.700 have it himself and if he didn't see it inside that's right and he he had it himself he saw it

01:11:49.700 inside me and what people what sal was just saying is people need to understand that that that attitude

01:11:55.220 is contagious and if you're a leader out there and your team has a horrible attitude and a horrible

01:12:01.240 mindset that is 100 your fault no bad teams only bad leaders because you are not doing the right

01:12:08.260 thing and you see the culture that you guys have developed here i mean culture decentralized command

01:12:14.180 is culture right you guys are able to do what you do and people are able to take ownership and make

01:12:18.640 decisions and lead because of the culture that's been created here they know what is right they know

01:12:24.060 what is wrong and people that fail to you know believe in their company and their team and then

01:12:30.940 you know bestow that belief upon them that's why they struggle well dude i think what it is too

01:12:35.300 is i know this is what it is it's the same mentality that we talk about and dude you talk to leaders

01:12:40.920 every day of your life this is what you do for a living and you could tell me if you think i'm wrong

01:12:45.220 what about the mental this the same mentality that people have when they start when they say oh well

01:12:52.380 nobody believes in me well that's a fucking like that's like an entitled mentality right and you think

01:13:00.320 that the other people owe you their belief when they fucking don't and i don't care if it's your mom

01:13:05.180 they don't owe it to you and the same thing with building a team most of the leaders that i find that

01:13:11.620 have shitty teams they think because they're in a position of leadership that they are owed by the

01:13:19.080 team the compliance or the the good culture or the and that's just not the fucking case and it's

01:13:25.700 your own entitlement as a leader that you think these people should do for you because you're paying

01:13:31.980 their fucking shit is actually what costs you the big the what you actually want yeah leadership is

01:13:38.660 your ability to influence people on your team to do things or not do things like hey you're not

01:13:43.300 supposed to do that you shouldn't do that and it is if we believe that to be true well guess what

01:13:47.620 leadership isn't a title and that's why jaco did that to me is because he knew that if i stepped up

01:13:53.720 and if i helped the rest of our guys then i could help drive our platoon to do the right things because

01:13:59.480 that's he told me he's like hey you're driven you're motivated you know what i mean like he's like he knew

01:14:04.540 that and so he knew that if if he told me to step up and lead if he told me to be more aggressive to

01:14:09.460 take ownership then that's what i was going to do and that attitude was contagious and i wasn't the

01:14:14.820 only go-to guy for jaco and i know that every he did that with everybody in their own unique manner

01:14:20.700 and that's what good leaders should do but if you're in a position of leadership nothing is owed to you

01:14:26.240 no and jaco didn't sit there and say oh just because i outrank you you should i should follow me

01:14:30.680 yeah he did homework dude he got to know you he got to know him he got to know this guy and he went

01:14:36.900 and had built real relationships dude and if you're if you're a leader of a company or an organization

01:14:42.940 and you don't think that you're going to have to go actually get to know your people and build

01:14:46.920 relationships with them you're gonna fucking lose dude and relationships trump the chain of command

01:14:51.940 yeah all day long yep and if you have to use your position or the chain of command to lead and or get

01:14:57.180 people to do something you're you're fucked yeah well i mean this is truth i mean i you know i tell

01:15:02.320 people all the time my fucking guys put you in a hole consequently i'll put them in a hole for you

01:15:05.860 or for them you know and it's one of those things that it's interesting because that bond is that

01:15:10.320 actually happened through the business conversation that bond actually happens through the personal

01:15:14.540 conversation you know like hey man what's going on in your life you know we i i do 30 minute

01:15:18.580 meetings with you know with a tier of people in our organization every week 15 minutes is usually

01:15:24.800 productive on business 15 minutes is hey what's going on home how you doing and you you know i

01:15:30.380 tap in hey i'm struggling here hey i don't know here hey listen i don't know that particular

01:15:33.900 situation this is what i did it's no different than building trust or the loyalty circle we talk

01:15:37.780 about i just give them the best experience that i can that i've had through failures and through

01:15:42.820 some success and they go apply that to their life and then what happens we create a bond and that

01:15:47.180 bond is is unbreakable because our job is to build people of character to help them win at their

01:15:52.300 lives when they do start winning they believe deeper in that leadership chain and i know that

01:15:57.300 chain is passive up and down a chain it's like hey man when i ask you when i when i ask anything of

01:16:02.020 them they'll go execute because of the belief that happens in those 15 minutes of personal interaction

01:16:07.740 yeah and they have to also feel everything that we're talking about you know what i'm gonna try to

01:16:14.660 say i'm not lucky but i'm very fortunate there you go that the the portion of echelon front that i'm

01:16:20.920 helping build that i've been building is our experiential leadership training program it's

01:16:25.640 the coolest thing that we do it's hands-on leadership training and so we'll take it's

01:16:30.680 mostly been on the corporation side we just made it to where now it's open to where like individuals can

01:16:36.440 sign up for this training but it's a full day or on the individual it's two full days of hands-on

01:16:42.240 scenario-based leadership training to where we take all of our leadership principles that we talk about

01:16:46.820 we give you all that info ahead of time through ef online platform so you have the the virtual online

01:16:51.840 learning platform that you can access all that and then we show up for the training

01:16:55.600 it's all scenario-based and it's capture kill missions that you're going to go and run against

01:17:01.060 my role players and all the role players are former and or current navy seals marines swat team members

01:17:07.420 rangers delta guys that's who we bring to be your role players that you're going up against

01:17:11.080 and the reason why i'm sharing this is because at the beginning of the day i tell everybody

01:17:15.620 you're going to be very very uncomfortable today you're actually going to impose more stress upon

01:17:21.260 yourself than is actually needed and you're going to feel the burden of leadership you're going to

01:17:25.740 see the voids of communication you're going to see the voids of leadership and you're going to feel

01:17:30.260 these principles and until you feel them nothing compares to that and we'll go throughout the day

01:17:36.700 so we we run run the mission they go out most of the time it goes really bad for them because we'll give

01:17:42.340 them the intel package they try to plan it we give them their leadership structure and it's it's really

01:17:47.300 cool because what you guys are saying is we'll see that real time just like we saw in the seal teams

01:17:52.100 and these missions that we run these scenarios are the same ones that i used to run in the seal teams

01:17:56.600 to prepare guys for deployments to build their leadership skill set and you'll see a good leader

01:18:01.800 that has confidence that has belief in their abilities they have no idea on the tactics it doesn't

01:18:06.620 matter we're not there for tactics but they're they have that belief they have the ability to lead

01:18:10.920 and they will do well and then we wrote and we come back we debrief the mission and then we talk

01:18:16.460 about what the lessons that they learned and how does it apply to their business like what do you do

01:18:21.580 like how i don't care about your tactics but hey how does this apply to what you're doing in life and

01:18:26.340 in business and we'll really dive into that give them some action plans so that they can go implement

01:18:30.880 it and then we rotate the leadership and they go do another run and it's night and day every single time

01:18:35.960 between good leaders and bad leaders and it's incredible to see a bad leader come in you can

01:18:42.840 see the insecurities you can see that they've never actually had to communicate properly they've always

01:18:47.420 used their title but when they're out there guess what that title doesn't mean anything it means

01:18:52.020 nothing and if they're trying to dictate everything and be very centralized it all falls apart

01:18:57.080 and it's just a beautiful thing to see and then throughout the day though

01:19:01.180 because of the reps because of the time and because they are doing it and they're doing it

01:19:07.000 and they're doing it and we're taking the time to debrief what went wrong and how to fix it and how

01:19:12.840 to apply it to your life at the end of the day it all comes together they're actually able to put

01:19:16.780 together missions and plans when they go execute against my role players i'm listening to the radio

01:19:21.820 because i'm running all the scenarios and the role players and i hear them like shit hey they got me

01:19:25.720 pinned down over here they're over here like they actually are able to do something well

01:19:30.940 against my team when they learn to actually work together and they're only able to do that is

01:19:35.620 because they've been feeling it and they've been learning and so as an individual and as a leader

01:19:41.180 if you're not taking the time to do an honest self-assessment of yourself you're going to fail

01:19:46.820 you're going to fail yourself and you're going to fail your team and then if you fail to do an

01:19:50.220 honest self-assessment of your team of what they're capable of what they're able to do what they're not

01:19:55.420 doing then you're going to actually fail them as a leader and they're not going to have success

01:19:59.800 you have to take the time to detach, assess your battlefield, make sure your plan of action is

01:20:06.260 still the right plan, and then get back to work. It's interesting. All that's involved in building

01:20:14.520 a team, right? But it's interesting how many times I get asked, how do you hire such great people?

01:20:22.880 This happened to my Monday morning meeting. I know, Sal, I know. I get asked it 400 times.

01:20:29.240 Bro, I love your guys are the best. They're so great. Where do you find them? There's just some

01:20:34.380 fucking store you go to. Pond shop, right? Yeah. Two of these, three of those, and some of the naked

01:20:40.660 lady tees. JP, I got to be honest, though. If you wanted to plug, bro, all you got to do is ask. We

01:20:46.600 plug you. You know, I already fucking said you're one of the only people in the entire world that

01:20:51.300 will let talk to our goddamn team. You want a business plug, bro? I will tell you how great

01:20:54.900 that training is. Oh, no. I'm telling you. I'm telling you right now. I love what I do.

01:21:00.040 If you are a business owner and you're struggling with leadership, and I mean this, and I mean this

01:21:04.280 fucking from the bottom of my heart. Three weeks ago, I had JP talk to a group of people at our HQ

01:21:10.000 because it's outside perspective to helping people develop leadership skills is a great asset or could

01:21:18.180 be a great asset to your organization, but only if it's coming from somebody who can clearly

01:21:21.960 communicate that to your team. And JP, I was struggling with a particular thing inside,

01:21:29.360 you know, our organization. I said, hey, man, can you help me? Yes, no problem. I'll be up,

01:21:33.780 flies up, and in an hour, two hours, you know, just some great perspective and conversations with

01:21:40.720 our team. They loved it. They left rejuvenated. He's an unbelievable asset that you can access.

01:21:46.220 I'm sure you can hire. He's probably pay for play or what? You have an OnlyFans?

01:21:49.260 I don't even know what that is. Yeah, you do.

01:21:56.020 I got one. I'm a writing coach. I bet you do the past your disaster, but seriously,

01:22:00.800 because there's a million, there's a ton of people on here who, you know, this is a struggle,

01:22:05.200 man, and it's a real struggle. And, you know, having somebody like JP at our disposal has been

01:22:10.500 instrumental to our business. Just a different perspective and some great conversation. And so

01:22:14.740 you guys are doing fucking awesome work. And we're actually going to put a course on in St.

01:22:17.760 Louis. Two housekeeping items real quick. JP, I know that very soon you're departing to address

01:22:23.800 the Joint Chiefs of Staff. So are you good on time? He's got 10, at least. He's got about 10 minutes.

01:22:28.720 All right. And then secondly, and I hope I'm not making a mistake here, but dude, my understanding

01:22:35.940 was that you promised you were going to tell everybody why you stopped 75 hard. Yeah.

01:22:41.480 Yeah. Uh, raise my blood pressure. Yeah. Skin suit. Yeah. So, um, yeah. So Sunday, this is just the

01:22:54.520 story. Like people are like, well, why the fuck did you quit? Cause I was doing good and I was

01:22:58.580 kicking ass. Sometimes shit does happen. And this would be one of those times. So Sunday morning

01:23:03.940 when I woke up, uh, I found out that somebody had broken into my farmhouse and, uh, vandalized

01:23:12.000 it and painted all kinds of liberal sayings on the fucking wall. Um, because this person

01:23:17.860 has, I guess, followed me online and, uh, yeah. So that's what happened. So, so fucking crazy

01:23:26.840 person went and broke into my house and, uh, vandalized the fuck out of it. And, um, I had

01:23:33.540 to deal with that all day with the police at my farm. And as you can imagine, I was pretty

01:23:40.300 infuriated and, uh, yeah, he did look good in your hat and shirt though. Yeah. This, this

01:23:45.500 guy, and I'm not going to talk too much about it because I don't know what's going to happen

01:23:49.800 with the court, but cause I am going to press charges as hard as I fucking can. Um, so he's

01:23:56.260 caught. We, yes. Okay. Yes. And yes, he was caught. I'm not going to go into the details

01:24:02.200 of him getting caught, but, uh, but yeah, um, we're not going to post that on the video

01:24:07.900 by the way, but yeah, there he is right there on the, uh, wearing my hat and my shirt, posting

01:24:14.100 it on the fucking internet and then basically talking all kinds of shit about me. Um,

01:24:19.800 I will warn you that if you listen to me and you don't like me and you, you come to my

01:24:24.360 house, uh, I have 24 hour security who is at my house all the time. And, uh, if I see

01:24:30.640 you, you should probably hope that they see you before I see. Um, I'm just being completely

01:24:35.480 fucking honest. Uh, cause this is like the fourth time this has happened to me where I've had

01:24:39.400 someone completely overstepped their boundaries. Uh, I had a woman who went to prison for first

01:24:45.860 degree stalking, uh, last year, um, for trying to break into my house. And I'm just telling you

01:24:52.940 guys, if that's you, if you think that's a good idea, it's not, but yeah, that's why I stopped 75

01:24:57.920 hard. And, uh, and I picked it up two days later because I dealt with that for about two days. Uh,

01:25:04.420 and you know, it's going good. Yeah. But, um, I'm excited because this is the best shape I've

01:25:10.820 been in mentally and physically at this early in the year and in my whole life. So I'm real

01:25:16.600 excited about where I'm going to go this year, but yeah, dude, like, don't be a fucking asshole.

01:25:20.460 You know what I'm saying? Like, uh,

01:25:22.780 but I think that's a good point about life though. Like, you know, resetting the tolerance of, you

01:25:28.460 know, getting a little bit better and a little bit better and restarting habits after you've

01:25:31.360 gotten to a next goal and getting better and getting better, you know, like take Cody, for

01:25:35.540 example, Cody's, you know, Cody's back on a program. It's the best he's ever looked starting the

01:25:40.120 program. Oh, no question. You know, like, and I think that's an important lesson about life. Like

01:25:43.360 you're going to fucking fail. Oh yeah. Hey, look, dude, this program's hard as fuck. Like if you're

01:25:47.740 not dedicated to it, so is life. Yeah. Right. Well, that's the point. And like, if you're not,

01:25:51.860 you guys all know who have done it here. If you're not dedicated to it, you're going to fucking fail.

01:25:56.040 And like, if you, you get up and you've got to spend your whole day with the police until six

01:26:00.260 o'clock at night, you're, you're, you're not getting your shit done that day. Um, it is what it is. So,

01:26:06.540 uh, you know, I, I was, I was, I was pretty irritated about it. Uh, because I don't deserve

01:26:13.780 those kinds of things. I don't do, I don't fuck with people. I don't fucking fuck with anybody.

01:26:17.420 I stayed in my own lane and you might not like what I had to say. You might have preconceived

01:26:21.800 notions of me or whatever the fuck I, that's none of my business. And I don't care, but the minute

01:26:26.400 you act on it, you're crossing a line that's going to be dealt with. And this guy is in the, uh,

01:26:31.980 in the clinker right now, eating his bologna sandwiches, getting what the fuck he deserves.

01:26:36.060 He might be getting a bologna. Listen, the, the wonderful, uh, Franklin County Sheriff's

01:26:41.140 department fucking took care of it for us. And I appreciate you guys. I know you guys listen to

01:26:45.020 the show and I'm just going to let you know, uh, there's no mercy for me when it gets into those

01:26:49.520 kinds of situations. I'm going to press charges as hard as I fucking can on any of you that fuck with

01:26:53.460 me in any way. And that goes for harassment on the internet. Like I got some people that harass me

01:26:58.400 on the internet consistently. I'm not going to say their names. I've been compiling all their posts

01:27:02.820 into a fucking giant lawsuit and they're going to find out about that real soon. So like, you know,

01:27:07.740 dude, don't fuck with me and I'll leave you to fuck alone. That's really what it comes down to.

01:27:11.020 Not that it really matters, but I, I'm always amazed that, that a guy like that thinks that he's

01:27:15.960 going to get away with that. I had a, I had an RCPD, uh, Riley County police department officer tell me

01:27:20.940 one time that people who do that kinds of stuff, they're not necessarily more evil than the typical

01:27:26.320 person. They're just stupid. They're just dumb because they think they're going to get away.

01:27:30.540 Yeah. You know what? Here's the problem, bro. The problem with that. And I understand that. And

01:27:34.820 it's, it's true. It is true. There's people out there that are just not very smart. This guy's

01:27:41.000 definitely one of those people. And, but the problem is, is, and I've heard this are, you know,

01:27:45.160 Oh, well, you know, they have all these problems and they have this and they have that. Well,

01:27:50.180 motherfucker, when you break in my house and write, welcome to no fly list on the fucking wall,

01:27:54.360 cause you don't like what I have to say politically. You can eat shit. Oh yeah. No,

01:27:58.520 a hundred percent. You know? So, and I'm not, I'm done this, this whole society. We have zero

01:28:03.620 accountability right now in the whole fucking world. And I'm not down with it. I'm not,

01:28:10.000 I'm not down with it. And that's why we have repetitive problems. You know, people sympathize

01:28:13.640 and empathize with people over and over and over again, but we don't think about the victims of

01:28:18.080 those things. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. That guy burned down that fucking house. Oh yeah.

01:28:22.960 But he never had a dad in his life. I don't give a fuck. He burned a fucking place down. Right.

01:28:28.480 Like, dude, when are we going to get back to reality here? Like real shit. Like if you hurt

01:28:33.300 someone, there's consequences. If you do things, there's consequences. And right now the people

01:28:38.940 who do things don't seem to suffer a lot of consequences. And the people who fucking don't

01:28:43.980 do things have to deal with it. And dude, that's a dangerous situation because what happens is people

01:28:49.640 start taking shit into their own hands and dude, we can't have that in a civilized world.

01:28:55.040 So I don't know, man, but I'll tell you what, don't come to my motherfucking house.

01:28:59.980 Don't come to my fucking property. And I'm just putting that out there because I've had friendly

01:29:04.180 people come to, right? Like I've had people who have been like, oh dude, you know, I just wanted

01:29:10.120 to see where you lived and, uh, and they're cool. They're fans. Don't do that shit, bro.

01:29:14.460 That's not cool. Not, we, we talked about that. I had a guy pull up, I had Enzo out front and

01:29:18.680 I said, no, no, no, that ain't cool. Like, I want to do that. Hey, how you doing? But

01:29:21.860 it ain't cool. Like it makes me nervous. My kids are here. This is fucking weird. Now

01:29:25.580 you put me in a weird spot and I got to be a dick. Yeah. And now you're Sal the dick.

01:29:29.740 Yeah. Right. You know? Well, I've been known as that.

01:29:32.120 No. Yeah. Okay. Sal a little dick.

01:29:37.080 I didn't, I didn't deny it. I just said, well, dude, look, man, you know,

01:29:43.440 people just got to be cool, dude. Like, why can't we just be cool to each other?

01:29:48.780 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm sick of all this shit. I make a whole podcast about

01:29:52.340 it for you guys. I promise. Uh, cause I have a lot to say, but like, fuck man, like use

01:29:57.420 your motherfucking brains. Like there's a reason, there's a reason more like successful people

01:30:02.740 don't share the shit with people. And it's because of things like this, like this fucking

01:30:08.240 dickhead at my house. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why. So, you know, why? Oh, Andy,

01:30:15.500 why don't you post anymore? Well, that's why. That's why. So it's fucking, it is what it is,

01:30:22.780 man. But I'm back on it. I'm kicking ass. I think I'm on day four today. And, uh, I don't

01:30:29.060 know. It's, it's a, it's a, like Jocko says, non-factor now. No-factor. No-factor. No-factor.

01:30:34.080 Yeah. I'm in the fucking zone. Yeah, you are. So, well, what's cool is, um, you know,

01:30:39.340 I have this written down, like somebody asked Jocko, they're like, Hey, what are three things

01:30:42.800 that you would pass? What are three things that you would pass along to, you know, your

01:30:46.760 kids or anybody else or tell yourself? And, you know, I'm sure, you know, the first one

01:30:50.640 is like, Hey, take ownership, right? Be responsible for your actions. The second one, no, if you know,

01:30:56.280 Jocko shocking discipline, right? Like discipline equals freedom. If you're disciplined, it's going

01:31:01.140 to get you freedom in life. And the last one was balance, like understand the dichotomies

01:31:05.960 in life. And obviously that's what you guys are very good at. And that's what you do with

01:31:10.220 yourself. There's a balance. Now, if this would have been your first time through 75 hard,

01:31:16.500 it would have been a deal. No, you know, you still would have finished that day, but there's

01:31:22.660 a balance and there's a dichotomy. We only have so much energy that we can put forth, right?

01:31:27.140 I don't think I would have finished that day, bro. I think you would have. No,

01:31:29.720 now it's pretty fucking heated, bro. I understand, but your commitment to something when you start

01:31:34.200 it. And I'm not saying that this version of there, this like section of 75 hard is a

01:31:39.380 less, what would you do if someone broke into your house and fucking vandalized? What would

01:31:43.480 you be doing that whole day? And I'm not going to ask you to answer it, but just imagine what

01:31:47.480 the fuck I was doing that whole day. I have an understanding of what you're feeling. I'm

01:31:51.720 just, for me being detached from that, I feel if it was your first time in 75 hard, you

01:31:57.880 would have finished the day. Maybe.

01:31:59.800 But I think, all right, this is just me from my perspective, but because you also understand

01:32:05.160 there's a balance in life. We've, the three of us have talked about balance so many times

01:32:09.020 and we have to understand that as an individual, you have to be aware of balance in life. And

01:32:14.480 you understood that, you know what? The balance, the thing that you needed to focus on was your

01:32:20.540 wife, your family, your property, your mental state. Actually, that's a good point. Take

01:32:26.760 two days to get that squared away and then start over. The fact of the matter was, is

01:32:31.000 like, I didn't really miss anything. I just didn't do it with any intent. You know, like

01:32:35.280 the shit still, I still fucking worked out. You still did everything. Yeah. I can tell

01:32:38.520 you the only intent he had that day was fuck that motherfucker, fucking, fucking, fucking

01:32:41.460 when he's on the treadmill. I was like, I should have had a fuck counter going because

01:32:44.780 that's pretty impressive. You get us both in a room and the fuck counter goes off. But

01:32:48.340 I mean, it was, we were walking through the treadmill and he's showing me pictures and

01:32:50.860 I'm like, dude, I'm just sick of low life motherfuckers. That's really what it comes

01:32:53.960 down to. I'm sick of the low life fucking scummy shit. Like in the whole, not just with

01:32:58.260 me, but with the fucking world, I'm fucking tired of it. And dude, you know, we, we all

01:33:04.420 as fucking Americans need to stand the fuck up against this lack of accountability that

01:33:09.840 we have in the world right now. And we start, you know, the fuck, the funniest thing

01:33:13.820 is, how do you fucking start that? That's right. Starts with yourself.

01:33:17.120 So it, it actually works right into the story and the things we're talking about, because

01:33:23.700 you have to be accountable to yourself before you could fucking even stand on a soapbox and

01:33:28.420 tell other people that you need to be accountable.

01:33:29.880 If you're not willing to do it, how do you expect anybody else to do it? If not you, then

01:33:32.820 who?

01:33:33.220 Yeah.

01:33:33.520 It starts with you.

01:33:34.300 That's it, man.

01:33:34.680 You have to do it.

01:33:35.720 I heard that before.

01:33:38.940 Well, bro, thanks for coming up, man. Sorry I was late to the, to the show.

01:33:42.140 You guys are running businesses up here. Your priorities.

01:33:45.940 I wish all I had to do was just make a podcast every day because, and that's where we're

01:33:50.040 trying to get to. We're trying to get to a point where I can actually do a show every

01:33:53.120 day. And that will be coming this year, hopefully sooner than later. But dude, thanks so much

01:34:00.280 for coming on.

01:34:01.000 Thanks for having me up.

01:34:01.680 You guys at Echelon Front are doing amazing work. Like Sal said, if you're a small business,

01:34:07.580 if you're somebody who's leading a group and you want to become a better leader, I would

01:34:12.180 immerse myself in what these men are teaching because it really is a crash course that can

01:34:19.480 save you a decade of trial and error. I mean, dude, anytime you could save yourself 10 years

01:34:27.000 of beating your head against the wall, it's probably a good idea to do it.

01:34:29.320 Yeah. And I said this today and this is, goes back to one of my most favorite pictures

01:34:33.760 is when Andrew's petting my head and we're with Jocko. There's a great picture on Instagram.

01:34:37.640 I'll repost it, but no shaking that man's hand that day and meeting you guys has been

01:34:41.900 a huge chapter for our life because you know, that extreme ownership concept, the book, and

01:34:47.320 then being able to deploy that in. And I was talking, we were talking about Leif today.

01:34:50.660 Like, you know, what's he like? I was just asking you questions, you know, and we started

01:34:54.260 talking. I don't want anything other from those guys that are going to shake their fucking

01:34:58.660 hand because it's a, you know, and being your friend is, I'd say it's an honor, but

01:35:02.680 you know, it's more of a fucking headache at times, but dude, I just think it's, it's

01:35:07.660 rare. It's rare. There's a picture. It's rare. That's one of my favorite pictures.

01:35:11.560 Well, dude, it's just, there's not many people out there doing good work. There's just not,

01:35:15.320 there's a lot of people trying to take money from people, but there's just not a lot of

01:35:20.100 people out there doing fucking good work. Dude, that was a fun day. It was a great day.

01:35:23.720 Yeah. Yeah. And you know, to, to answer your question is, or what you said is for people

01:35:28.840 like kind of wondering, like, what is Leif like? He's awesome. Leif is awesome. Leif

01:35:32.840 and Jocko are awesome people that what they want is they want other people to win. That's

01:35:38.320 why they do what they do. Like you guys, you guys want to make an impact. You want to make

01:35:42.160 a difference. You want people to win. Jocko and Leif want people to win. And I've never met

01:35:47.700 two other people that just, they want people to win. That's what Leif wants. I mean, he

01:35:54.760 is just an awesome guy and Jocko is an awesome guy. And that's, it's just, it's really cool

01:36:00.180 to be able to work alongside them. And as we continue this journey and go forward and, you

01:36:04.980 know, and how we're all connected, it's just, well, I think you're an awesome guy.

01:36:08.680 Well, I appreciate it. You better say that, you know, yeah. So happens when you lose 28 pounds

01:36:14.200 to 75 pounds. Bro, you do look fucking jacked, bro. I was watching you do a dumbbell rows

01:36:18.580 and you know, the way the shorts kind of went over your booty. Wait, I got that J-Lo booty.

01:36:25.620 Yeah, that's why I got that. No, I got to get to the airport. All right. Thanks for coming

01:36:29.600 in, bro. Thank you, bro. I appreciate it. Hey guys, thanks for listening to the show.

01:36:32.200 Sorry. I was a few minutes late. Um, we'll have, I will have full updates of, uh, the current

01:36:37.600 goings ons of the world soon for you guys. I know, uh, a lot of you guys are wondering

01:36:42.180 what I think about everything. So, uh, but I appreciate you guys. I love you guys. If

01:36:45.940 you took nugget or two from the show, please share it with your friends. Um, and that's

01:36:50.140 what we asked. So talk to you guys later.

01:36:52.060 All right.

REAL AF with Andy Frisella - January 23, 2021

94. 1 + 1 = 2 Ft. JP Dinnell

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