959. Q&AF： Getting People On The Same Level As You, Staying Productive On The Weekends & Competing Against Lower Prices
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In this episode of Q&A, DJ and Andy discuss how to deal with work-life balance, how to stay mentally tough in the workplace, and how to be a better friend to your co-worker.
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What is up guys, it's Andy Priscilla and this is the show for the realists to say goodbye
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to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking
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reality. Guys, today we have Q and AF, that's where you submit the questions and we give
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you the answers. Now, you can submit your questions a number of different ways. DJ's
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going to tell you how. Guys, the first way is you can email your questions in to askandy
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in the comments of the Q and AF videos on YouTube. Yes. Thank you, DJ. You're welcome.
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Also, we have shows within the show. Tomorrow, we're going to have CTI. That stands for Cruise
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how to do it, how to apply it to your life, and why it's extremely important. So that book
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is not free, but it is very good. So with that being said, we do have a fee for the show.
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The fee is very simple. If you get value from the show, if it makes you think, if it makes
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the show, all right? That's the fee. Don't be a hoe. Share the show. All right. What's up,
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man? I mean, how are you, man? Good. You know? Good. Yeah. What? Nothing. I mean,
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you know, I'm just still recovering a little bit from the pre-show. Abuse? Abuse that just
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happened. I'm never wearing this again. Workplace abuse? I mean, should we play the clip of what
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happened? No. Do we have that? Okay. We just put that right here. Here's what happened.
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He looks like a whole forest. That's wild. See that? I get a trophy for that shit. That
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shit's funny. Joe, I think you need to just remove... Joe, no, no. See, Joe, you can't do
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that. Bro, DJ's gonna have fucking environmental activists hugging him. We're gonna come in
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here and Greta Thunberg's gonna be on him here. That's diabolical. Yeah, it is. I hope
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you got it on tape. All right. We ready? Fuck. I mean, yeah, yeah. Let's go fucking suck
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start my Glock real quick. Jesus Christ. Oh, fuck, dude. How did that make you feel?
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That's a weird thing. I'm like, all right. It does look good, man. All right. It does
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look good. Thank you. Looks like fall everywhere. All right. So what we got? We're gonna make
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some people better? What's that? You're gonna make some people better? Yeah, we are, actually.
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I actually did see this post. I forgot who sent it to me. There was a dude, his best friend
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texted him every single day saying he was like, just texted, you're a fat ass? Yeah.
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Dude lost like 300 fucking pounds. Yeah. Shame works. Yeah, it does. Yeah. It does. Yeah. Don't
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text me. Yeah. No, man, but I don't have to. I just reach outside, pull a leaf. All right.
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Okay. Okay. It's Monday. Yeah. We're making people better today. We are. We got some really
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good calls lined up and let's get into it. Cool. Let's do it. Let's start. We're gonna give
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our good friend Angela a phone call. Let's do it. Let's give Angela a call.
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Hello. Hello, Angela. How are you? Hey, how are you guys? I'm doing great. I'm doing good. Where
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are you calling from? I am in the Hudson Valley, New York. Hudson Valley, New York. All right.
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Hi, Angela. It's Andy. Hey. Hey, Andy. Hey, DJ. Love you guys. Thank you. Well, what can we
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help you with today? How do I, um, get people to, to be at the same level as me that I don't want to
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lose, but because I trust them, but yet I want to say like, I don't know. I've heard you say in
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the pod in your, on your podcast, I think it's great advice. How you say, like, if, if you're
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employees, you don't just fire them, right? You, you kind of create that corporate culture, this and
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that. And I'm, I think I just need to know, like, I guess if people are making me, so to speak,
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empty promises, I guess it would be, it would be, it would seem, you know, that they are, they are
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like, Oh, I'm all in, but then, you know, they're not. So let me ask you this. Um, are you operating
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at the standard that you want them to operate? Honestly? Oh, I would definitely say yes. I, I'm,
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yeah, I was raised in businesses. Um, I come from mom and pop shops. I, I, and I was, I own my own,
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uh, I just recently retired from, uh, being a wedding DJ for over 20 years. So I've run my own
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businesses basically my whole adult life. So yes, I am a person that just goes, goes, goes, and you
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know, hardly sleeps, you know? Okay. Let me ask you this. Say yes. Let me ask you this next. Do these
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people understand very clearly what's expected of them. And what I mean by that is, do you have
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a document that says, this is what you are required to do that shows them exactly what
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they're required to do? No. Okay. So here's what I want you to do. All right. There's going
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to be more after this. You need to make a document that says, these are the expectations
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of what you have to do in order to work with me. And then you need to sit down with each
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of the people around you and you have to say now, are these people you have employees? Is
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that what you're saying? Um, no, they are. I, um, yes and no. They're more like community friends,
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my friends. Okay. So you, why? Yeah. Based on like the capital that I have, I, it's more
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grassroots. So I don't, I rely on certain people that's been helping me through the years, but I
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need, it's not sufficient enough really for me to keep continuing to grow at a level that I wish
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to grow at. And these people are doing this for free. Um, I'm sorry. These people are doing,
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helping you for free. Yes. Okay. Well, not for free. I mean, there's, there's perks to it. We do
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cross, um, cross, um, promotion of each other's businesses and there's lots and lots of free cigars
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involved in it. I mean, it's, I mean, it sounds probably lame, but they're not cheap. So there's
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lots of exposure in the community for their businesses. And you know, when we host these
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events, um, there's, you know, they get the perks out of it. Okay. So look, people are only going to
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do so much for cigars. All right. Yeah. Yeah. And if you want to be around people that hold the same
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standard as you, you are going to have to one live that standard. Okay. Two, when you get employees
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to help you, you need to make the expectations very clear on a document, have them sign it,
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go with each point with them that helps keeps the expectations clear, moving forward. Um, and that's
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where I was going with that. But you're talking about something completely different, which is
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you're trying to figure out how your peer network group, how to get them to perform at a higher
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level. And that can only come from the inspiration that they feel on the inside. All right. There's no
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speech that you could give someone. There's no hype up that you can give someone. There's no way to drag
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them to be better. They have to want to be better. So if you want those people to get excited about
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being better, you are going to have to expose them intentionally to what it looks like if they were to
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run things at a higher level. All right. Because people have a very hard time visualizing and
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understanding what they're capable of if they've never seen it before. So my advice, if these people
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don't work for you would be to find a, a, a similar business slash organization that is doing the
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things that you want to do at a high level, I would show it to them. And then I would say,
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here's what we're trying to do. This is what we need to do. Here's what's possible. And you have
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to assume the role of leadership over them without you ever having the title of quote unquote, the
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leader. All right. It's just peer leadership. So yes, you have, you have to get good at showing them
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and communicating to them all the time. What they could become if they did these things.
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Some of these people aren't going to do shit. Okay. Because if they were, they'd already be doing
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it. And I don't want you to spend a lot of time trying to pull people down the tracks that are going
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to be comfortable. If these people are older, if they're, you know, uh, quite honestly, if they're
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older, they're usually have accepted their place in life. It's very hard to take someone who's over
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the age of 40 years old and inspire them to become more because by the time they are 40, they've
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already accepted where they are in life for the most part. And so they're not going to work very much
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harder. They're not going to believe that they can become all these things because they're going
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to believe falsely, by the way, that they can't do these things because they don't have enough time.
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So you're battling a lot of challenges here. They're not your employees. They're not your actual
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team. Um, it sounds like they might be a little bit older. Uh, I mean, there's a, there's a lot of
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things you're battling here and I can appreciate the fact that you want better for them.
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But at the end of the day, you don't want to waste the time that you have trying to drag people that
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are never going to want to be better to be better. What you need to worry about is how you're going
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to be better. And if you become better and you elevate and you grow, those people will work to
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keep up. At least some of them will. And, uh, and that's the best way that you could handle this.
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If they're not your actual team. Um, the other thing is, is like you mentioned the trust aspect,
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uh, you got to have boundaries. All right. And when people tell you things and then they don't do
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things, you have to hold them accountable. You cannot just let them go without saying anything
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because they made an agreement with you. And if they make agreements with you and they don't hold up
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their end of the bargain and then there's no pain, not even a conversation, then what's the incentive
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to uphold the agreement? There's zero. And you sound like a very nice person who probably doesn't
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confront them on these things. Is that an accurate assumption?
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Uh, it's yeah, somewhat. Yes. Because we do, we're all from the same, uh, business networking
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group. And we kind of branch that on our own because certain groups you have to pay for,
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right? Certain of them were free. They meet the community, this and that. And we all own our own
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small business, all of us. So, um, that's why we kind of cross pollinated, but I, I want to do so
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much more because I've been starting to, you know, interview like industry heads, you know, other,
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uh, just, you know, people, cigar, um, makers and owners. And I kind of just want to go to the next
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level. So that's, I can't always get there by myself. So that's, I hear what you're saying.
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Yes, you can. What do you mean? You can't get there by yourself. Yes, you can. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck
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dude. Everybody who started in business with me back in 1999, I don't do business with a single one of
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those people anymore. I needed them then. And then they fell off. They didn't keep up. It's not like
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I didn't invite them to come. Like I told them I'm doing this. This is what I'm doing. I, I shared
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that dream with every single vendor, with every single person I was around and not a single one
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of them went with me. So I outgrew those people. And I found people that wanted to have the same
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ambition, goals, dreams, outcome that I had. And then when I created that outcome, those people
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were comfortable there. And then I wanted to keep going. So I escalated again. Like, dude, it's a,
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it's a great feeling. And I am, I can commend your heart that you want these people to be
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the people that are going to go with you, but they're not. And they're giving you every single
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red flag that they're not. And you can't waste your life dragging people that are never going
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to figure it out when you have bigger ambitions. And if you really care about them and you really
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want them to become better, because I can hear it in your voice that you do, you've got
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to go become better and then turn around and look at them and be like, look, let me help
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you guys. So you can't wait for these guys. If you wait for them, you're all going to rot
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Yeah. That's, that's actually something I never really thought about. Cause I think I feel
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like in the community, I have like a certain reputation. People know me, they know me as
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myself, Angela. They know me as DJ Dolce. Cause I do, you know, family sweet 16s, this and
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that weddings. People know me in the community for over 20 years. So I feel like you're,
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what I, what you're saying resonates because that's it. You hit the spot. Like you hit
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that in my heart. I'm thinking like, I don't want to seem like, Oh, well I'm not, you know,
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I'm going to diss my neighbor. And then I won't be like, Oh, what, you know, like what
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happened to Angela, but I have to, you know why most people fail, like dissing them. Do
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you know why most people fail? No, because they're loyal to the wrong fucking people. They continue
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to be loyal to the friends from the neighborhood from 20 fucking years ago. They go out and drink
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with them. They go out and hang with them. They get their small mind here in their small thinking
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going in their fucking head. And they never break free of that cycle. Those people from the old
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neighborhood, while they might be good people and you could still remain friends with them.
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I have not ever met someone who's successful and their whole team came from the old neighborhood.
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That's not reality, man. It's a, it's, it's a pipe dream. Okay. I would love to, for all of my
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friends from high school and college to be sitting next to me. Very few. Wow. It's like deep. That's
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deep. I didn't think of it that way. I think I have to think of it a new way. Yeah, you do. And if you
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don't, you're going to waste your life trying to pull people along that are never going to come.
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Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. That was real. Angela, we hope that helps, man. We really do.
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Yeah. You kind of opened my eyes to a new avenue that I was like, didn't realize. Cause I don't
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want to be not that, I mean, I could not to say mean, but I can be stern. Don't get me wrong. I,
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I, you know, I get stuff done, but I guess I didn't want to, like Andy said, feel like I'm just,
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I, they were on the come up. They did help. Like they hit, you know, they get credit for where I'm
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at now, but then it's like, but then I really need to move on. That's right. And, and, and by the
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way, Angela, they're welcome to come with you. Hmm. Yeah. They're welcome to come. It's not that
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you're telling them they can't come. You're saying, Angela, me, I'm going to kick ass. If you want to
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come, let's go kick ass. If you don't, you be right here and I'll send you a Christmas card. I'll come see
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you once in a while, but I'm going to kick ass. So, well, thank you. You're welcome.
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Appreciate you calling in, Angela. Thank you. Oh, well, thank you guys. Love what you're doing.
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Love the pod. Love it. Thank you, Angela. Good luck with everything. Okay. Thanks. Bye.
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That's, that's a hard thing, man. It's just big hearted people, bro. I know you want the best for
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everybody. I know I do too, but I've learned that lesson the hard way and it's cost me years of my life.
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And, uh, I don't want her to make that same mistake. It sounds like she's already been putting
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in work for 25 something years, but she doesn't want to waste another 25 people that don't want
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anything. That's right. You know? And when you're in your forties, you know, and, and you have people
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who have kind of settled in like, bro, not many people in their forties are dreaming, right? They're
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trying to figure out how to pay their bills and pay for their kids and pay for their shit. They're,
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they're, they're already, they've already accepted their reality. And unfortunately,
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by the way, cause you could change it. And 40 is not that old, especially when you consider
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all the technology that's coming down the pipe, you guys might live to 200. Yeah. Okay. Um,
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so yeah, man, um, we're on limited time and we can't afford to waste it trying to pull people along
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and the right people will come along when you decide to go. But if you wait and wait and wait
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and wait and wait for everybody to go, you're going to be waiting forever. I love it, dude.
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So I can empathize with her because we all want our friends to be successful. For sure. I would
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love for everybody that I've been good friends with my whole life to be on the same level that,
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that I am right now, you know, but for one reason or another, they're not, it's not like I said,
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Hey, uh, I'm going without you. Yes. You stay over here. Like it was their decisions. And so I don't feel
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bad about that. You can't, no, you can't feel bad about that, bro. Yeah. And by the way, I don't
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look down on people for that either. Like I don't look down on people's own decisions about what they
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made and say, well, that qualifies me to be friends with them or not. But you know, when I'm
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running my life and I'm doing the things I do, you know, it requires a lot of time and the time I
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want to have off, I want to spend with people that are like-minded and you know, my family and my
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friends and people that are on the same mission as me. And that's what I want to do. And that there's
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nothing wrong with that. No, that's real, bro. That's real. I love it. Well guys, let's get
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another question in, uh, question number two, brother. I am having trouble completing my power
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list on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. These days are insane for work at the studio. How would you go
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about this? Uh, it is not that I am unproductive. I am crushing my appointments and taking every walk in.
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So I'm earning, but my power list is put on hold. How do we handle this weekend, bro?
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Um, you don't give yourself an option at all? Like what does he, what does he do? Uh, doesn't
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really go into detail, but some type of work, I guess the weekend is just kind of crazy and
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powerless fails Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Yeah. Well don't fail it. It's a non-negotiable.
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It's reality. Okay. So, uh, I don't really know how to answer that question other than
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you got to fucking force it. You don't even think about weekends. It's like weekends like
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that though. No, I learned that. Weekends are fucking dude. Listen, look, man, people get
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so fucking irritated when they, when you say this, but I am always speaking to high achievers.
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I'm speaking to people with a different mentality than everybody else. Okay. And if you, uh, let's
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just do the fucking math here. Okay. Let's just, let's just do the math. All right. You have
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seven days a week. All right. But let's say you only fucking execute five of those days,
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right? That means you're only executing 70% of the time. That means 30% of the time you're
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not executing. Okay. So do you think that you are that good that you can excel at what you do
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when you are competing against people who are just as good, who are putting in 30% more time
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every single week? Okay. Let's, let's, let's fucking talk about what that means in a year.
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All right. What is that is 3.6 months of a year. So let's talk about it in that terms. Do you think
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that you are that good to where you could beat someone who's equally as good as you probably
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better than you by giving them an extra 3.6 months a year? It's impossible. It's mathematically
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impossible. And people don't think of it like that. They think of it like, well, fucking it's
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the fucking weekend. Yeah, man, that those fucking two days are costing you motherfucking everything.
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You don't get it. Okay. And whenever you become someone who has some wealth and some resources
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and you're comfortable, then weekends, you know, you can make a decision about the weekends.
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You, you should make a conscious decision about the weekends, because if you choose to do that,
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you had to understand you're giving up that time. But my point here is that we have to be aware
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of the actual time. Now I know this person is a little bit, the question was, I'm killing it. I'm so
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busy on the weekends. I can't get it done. Great. You still need to get it done. Okay. If you're able
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to get it done Monday through Friday, you're able to get it done on Saturday and Sunday. And, uh, at the
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end of the day, you know, um, it just comes down to forcing things, right? Things have to be forced.
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There is, you know, people talk about, well, I caught the momentum. You didn't catch the momentum.
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You are unaware of how momentum is created. And because you're unaware, you think you caught it,
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but momentum is actually created by forcing day after day, after day, after day, until it becomes
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habitual. And then when it becomes habitual, it feels like you have momentum because it feels easier.
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It's less painful. It's more automatic. And even when people are unaware of how momentum is created,
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they can still create it through force, but they think it's magic. They think, Oh man,
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I had to met fucking momentum came and finally came. No, it's that's you made it. You're just
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unaware that you made it. All right. So, um, there's all kinds of things and it becomes
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a question of awareness. You know, um, if you're crushing it so hard, then why are you concerned
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about your powerless getting done? There are obviously some sort of contradictory information
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happening here. All right. Because if you were getting everything done on Friday, Saturday,
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Sunday, uh, then you're powerless. You not hitting it would, would, would be irrelevant or you'd be
00:25:09.400
hitting it automatically. Yeah. You wouldn't be asking this question. Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:25:12.320
Why? What do you mean Saturday, Sunday, and you're so busy, you can't hit it. What do you,
00:25:17.960
what the fuck do you mean? If you're that fucking busy and you're doing that much shit,
00:25:21.500
aren't you hitting it automatically? Aren't you doing the right things? What I'm hearing here is,
00:25:25.860
Oh, I'm so busy with social things and I got this barbecue and I got this party and I got this and
00:25:33.260
I'm getting my shit done anyway, but and that's what I hear when I, when I hear that, because the
00:25:38.640
question actually makes no sense at the end of the day, here's the reality. If you fuck off two days a
00:25:44.640
week, you're automatically behind by 30%. It's math. All right. And that puts you behind three point
00:25:51.480
six months a year. Let's just call it four months a year. And there's not a single motherfucker
00:25:55.240
listening to this podcast that can win against someone who's great or even equally as skilled
00:26:01.000
giving them a four month headstart. It's impossible. So everybody should think about that because there
00:26:07.020
are these motherfucking animals out here who work every motherfucking day. You know how I know that?
00:26:12.140
Cause I'm one of them. All right. And there's a lot of motherfuckers like me. So when you look at
00:26:17.000
everything that we've created myself, my team, my brother, my business partners, everybody, uh, the
00:26:23.520
reason that exists is because of that 30 fucking percent that we're willing to give that nobody
00:26:28.460
else is. That's the truth. And nobody likes that. But, but, but, but, well, but do you want it or do you
00:26:36.540
not want it? And if you don't want it, that's okay, but you got to understand what it's costing you.
00:26:41.480
Bro, that's so real. You know, it was making me think of this too. Like, bro, I'll never forget.
00:26:46.020
If you're broke, you can't afford to fucking take the weekends off.
00:26:48.660
Can't take it 30%. Listen, that is fucking it. If you are broke and you take the weekends off,
00:26:54.840
it will never change. It will never, ever, ever change. Weekends are a luxury for once security
00:27:02.120
is established. That is the point. Dude, it's like, it's, you're taking four steps forward and
00:27:08.800
then three steps fucking back, man. Like it's wasting time, but it made me think too. Like,
00:27:13.140
and bro, I will never forget this experience when we were doing cardio in the fucking snow,
00:27:17.000
right? When you're doing something that nobody else is doing and you can look around and see
00:27:20.820
nobody. That was on a Sunday, bro. Yeah, bro. Like it, it's a different perspective way of looking
00:27:26.300
at it, man. Nobody else is doing it. So even if you got to tell yourself that lie,
00:27:30.900
every time, listen, man, every time the, the, when you scale out the big game of, of success
00:27:37.520
in life, okay, it really does come down to math. It just really does. Nobody's that much
00:27:43.680
more gifted than the other guy. Now they can be more experienced, right? Like I've got 27 years
00:27:51.260
of real business experience. Uh, and if I go back to zero and I have to compete against day one guys,
00:27:56.800
I'm going to fucking destroy them. Okay. That's different. That's experience. But if you take
00:28:04.420
my day one versus everybody else's day one, there's no difference. We're all fucking idiots.
00:28:09.540
We're all here trying to figure it out. And when you consider the fact that people are generally
00:28:15.680
with, with, with exceptions, okay, very few, but generally around the same skillset,
00:28:21.660
then what's it come down to? It comes down to time and success over the course of a life
00:28:29.600
is determined by the amount of time you're willing to take advantage of versus the amount of time,
00:28:41.040
the other competitors that you compete with do not. So when you stretch that out over 25 years,
00:28:48.380
okay. And every week your competitor started on day one, every weekend he's taken off,
00:28:55.180
he's doing this, he's doing that. He's doing this by year 10, you're fucking you're literally
00:29:01.960
four years ahead of them because of the math. Okay. By year 20, you're eight years ahead of them
00:29:07.220
by year 30, you're 16 years ahead of them. That's real fucking math. Okay. And people just don't
00:29:15.260
think about it like that. No. So, you know, the reason that, you know, I'm as young as I am and
00:29:22.260
have created these, the wealth that I have, which is significant is because of that time that I was
00:29:31.480
willing to take advantage of that. They weren't. And that's why at my age, I'm much further along
00:29:35.740
than I probably should be. Okay. But now I get the option to, and I've made sacrifices for that.
00:29:43.640
Right. Yeah. There's a lot of things I missed out on for that, but now I get to do things that the
00:29:48.180
other people don't get to do because they're now trying to catch up. Yeah. So there's, there's,
00:29:53.320
you got to understand this is not, you're, you're trading things for other things and the other
00:29:59.240
things I have now, I like more than the things I traded for them. You know what I'm saying? So
00:30:04.540
yeah, that's how, that's it. I love it, dude. I love it, bro. We got another call.
00:30:10.400
Uh, we have another call. Let's get Jeffrey on the phone. Jeffrey.
00:30:22.680
Oh, hello. Jeffrey. What's up, my man. Hey, what's going on, man? How are you, bro?
00:30:29.220
I'm good. This is crazy. How are you been? Hey man, you know, I've been good, man. You know,
00:30:34.380
I can't complain. Got roasted on a little bit, but we're all good. What's new? Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:38.800
That's right. Where are you calling from, man? Uh, Stevens Point, Wisconsin. Okay. All right. I
00:30:45.680
have no, I've never heard of it. Yeah. Central Wisconsin. Okay. Like right in the middle of
00:30:48.580
the state. Got it. Cool. Got it. Yeah. So I got the, what do you do up there? I run a painting
00:30:54.740
business. Um, yeah. So it was my fifth year. Uh, the company I worked for, I had kind of had the side
00:31:04.820
gig and then the company that I had worked for, they kind of did the whole crazy. You're going to
00:31:09.820
have to get the jab. And I had a pretty big conversation with my wife and we decided I got
00:31:16.480
to take this full on. Cause I'm not going to do that. And, um, yeah, I've been looking, looking
00:31:22.500
forward ever since that. Cool, man. So what kind of painting residential, commercial, everything?
00:31:28.300
Mona Lisa? Mostly residential right now. Uh, painting, staining. Yeah. A lot of deck
00:31:33.260
refinishing. Our climate up here is perfect for, for this business. There was an opportunity
00:31:37.800
to, to get into, no one wants to do that kind of work. And so I saw a market and kind of
00:31:44.320
haven't looked back. Cool. Cool. Well, what do you need help with brother? It's, it's a moral
00:31:50.460
dilemma more or less. It's, uh, so obviously there's competition in the area and, uh, there's a
00:31:57.180
guy, I follow all the painters in the area and I like to give him props and all that.
00:32:01.280
But, um, there's a guy I've lost jobs to that's dramatically like watering down the pricing in
00:32:07.900
the area. And, uh, so he posts pics and on Facebook, a lot of them like post pics on Facebook
00:32:17.800
and, uh, he was showcasing a house that had definite signs of like lead paint. And there
00:32:26.040
is really pretty strict protocol in how you remove and remediate lead. And I mean, he had it,
00:32:35.200
the pics clearly show that he has it all over the ground. I mean, it's a lot of fun, like you get
00:32:41.160
out of Stevens Point proper and it's a lot of farmhouses and, uh, you can see it's lead in the
00:32:47.140
pics. It's all over the ground and it's a, it's just like a big no, no. And so it's a, it's a thing
00:32:53.700
where I don't want to be that guy that like, I don't want to say narcs on something like that.
00:33:01.980
Or do I, do I call him and just be like, Hey man, like heads up. That's a, you'd, you'd,
00:33:08.960
you'd go down forever. Federal government gets involved, like state government gets involved.
00:33:13.860
Uh, he'd have to excavate all of that crap. And I mean, it would be pretty serious, uh, issue.
00:33:20.340
The part though is, I mean, I want to grow and I don't want to say I want to take out the
00:33:31.560
competition because they're watering down pricing and all that. Uh, it's more or less, that's where
00:33:37.860
I have this dilemma. I brought it up to my wife. She's actually the one that said, Hey, you should,
00:33:42.800
this is like a perfect ask Andy. And, uh, so I, I'm more or less just wanting to reach out to see,
00:33:49.320
like, I don't know, how would, how would you deal with something like that? I like, do I just let
00:33:55.040
it be? And if it, if the right person sees it, or I guess the wrong person sees it and he gets,
00:34:03.540
I guess, do you discovered just a question? It's kind of unrelated, but is it, is he, are you losing
00:34:11.820
business to this guy? I have lost jobs to this guy? Yes. And like dramatic, like difference. I have
00:34:19.940
had like customers be like, Hey, like you are, you are a lot more expensive than this guy. And I,
00:34:27.340
and I like, I pride myself on my craftsmanship. Uh, there's processes to every job. I mean,
00:34:33.660
like whatever, it's a, it's a craft. Yeah. You do shit right. And he doesn't. And he's, he's just
00:34:40.160
slapping it on. It's like, uh, so, but let me give you a couple of things here. One, you need to
00:34:47.420
start. And if you're not, I'm just going to give you some, some tips here. One, you need to start
00:34:52.520
positioning your service around doing it right and not having to redo it and actually being cheaper
00:35:00.960
than using this guy who's doing it cheaply. So you've got to present your business as yes,
00:35:07.800
I am more expensive. However, you will not have to redo it after two years because you paid X,
00:35:14.640
which actually makes this person more expensive than me. If you're not doing that, that's a big
00:35:20.480
deal. Okay. Um, so jot that down. Um, secondly, what I'm hearing is that you believe somehow
00:35:30.720
that this is like bad karma to report this person. Is that correct? More or less. Okay. Let me
00:35:37.780
explain something to you. That motherfuckers trying to take the food off your motherfucking plate.
00:35:42.840
Yes, sir. Okay. He would not hesitate to do that to you. Okay. And not only would he not hesitate to
00:35:51.940
do that to you, you are actually protecting the homeowners by saying something about this.
00:36:01.000
So I actually believe the bad karma is to not say anything and allow this guy to poison these
00:36:08.440
people's property by doing the shit that he's doing. And so if your interest really is the customer,
00:36:16.060
which I know it is, you just haven't thought about it this way. You have to protect them by doing the
00:36:21.200
right thing. And the right thing would be to report him because he is poisoning these people's
00:36:29.300
property, which is going to cost who knows what fuck dude. Maybe, maybe this makes their property
00:36:35.840
unsellable. Okay. Who knows? Um, so dude, I think you have a moral obligation to take care of that.
00:36:43.380
And I understand you, you feel like, Oh, well, I don't know, man, you know, like that feels like the
00:36:50.020
wrong thing to do, but that's just because you're thinking of it from your perspective,
00:36:53.580
not from the homeowner's perspective. Okay. And you understand that it's going to help your
00:36:58.420
business, which you probably feel a little, a little guilty about, but remember this, this dude's
00:37:03.720
trying to take your shit. That's why he's pricing the shit the way he is. He's trying to take your
00:37:08.680
fucking meal. He's trying to take your house. He, is this guy going to come pay your bills? If he
00:37:13.440
takes your shit, no, he has fuck no, bro. He's not doing it. So this is a real competition, man.
00:37:20.380
And, and I, I empathize with you because dude, I'm friends with a lot of the people I compete with
00:37:26.380
and we definitely, but dude, the guys I'm friends with are, they're ethically solid people, right? So
00:37:32.200
I don't have to worry about shit like that. But, um, dude, trust me when someone steps on my
00:37:38.020
fucking toes, bro, I will step on their motherfucking throat. Okay. So that's just part of being in
00:37:45.180
business and it's required and it doesn't, that doesn't mean I'm always excited about doing it,
00:37:50.020
but it just means that that's what I got to do to protect what we got. So, um, yeah, you know,
00:37:56.980
and I know, go ahead. No, no, no, man. Keep preaching. Yeah. I'm just saying this is new for
00:38:02.960
you brother. So I can understand where you feel a certain way and you're not sure what's the right
00:38:09.700
thing to do, but ultimately you are in the business of serving the people of your community
00:38:16.200
and your town. And you cannot allow these people to be victimized by someone who's literally doing
00:38:24.300
things that are, that are going to cost them who knows what. Okay. Now, aside from that,
00:38:32.960
make sure that you're presenting your product the way that I told you. Okay. Cause yeah. Okay.
00:38:38.960
Definitely. And I've, I've, I've had to transition to that because it was like one after another,
00:38:44.460
just like, well, I can't, I'm not, I can't go with you because you're X amount more. Yeah. And so I
00:38:50.500
have really shifted my, I guess my estimates and my quotes and my, I guess like the first meetups with
00:38:56.600
the customers just say in flat out, like there's processes to this. This is how I have to do it. Just so
00:39:02.700
you get the longevity of, of my service. And so that I, I have seen like a positive outcome
00:39:10.960
with that, but just over and over this individual and I, yeah. And I'm not making excuses for this
00:39:19.080
guy. Times are tough and people aren't wanting to spend a lot of money. And so it's a, it's almost
00:39:23.940
like putting lipsticks on pigs and shit when they want their houses painted. But dude, totally.
00:39:28.980
Um, I don't know if I just need to shift, like, I guess my customer base, but it's, it's wild
00:39:37.980
to post the pics and just be like, man, what the fuck is going on? Well, think about this
00:39:44.840
too. Maybe you could offer levels to your service. Okay. We'll do this for X. We'll do this for
00:39:52.580
X plus and we'll do it the right way for X plus plus. Also when I, when I, when I would meet with
00:39:59.900
people, if I were you, I would start the conversation with, Hey, we're not the cheapest
00:40:05.820
dude. And because here's the worst thing that can happen. You go through and you do all these
00:40:11.060
quotes and you get all this shit lined out, you build this great rapport and then you hand them
00:40:15.580
a ticket and they're like, what the fuck, bro? So I'd buffer it straight up and say, Hey,
00:40:21.660
something you need to know about us is we're not the cheapest, but I'm going to look out for your
00:40:25.720
best interests. I'm going to tell you exactly what you need. I'm not going to oversell you.
00:40:30.380
I'm not going to undersell you. I'm going to, I'm going to stand by my work. And that's how I would
00:40:34.820
start the conversation. Yep. Yep. No. Yeah. You are, you are a hundred percent correct there.
00:40:40.900
Yeah. Yeah. No, this is, this is, um, this is fantastic. I, I listen to you guys all the time.
00:40:48.620
I share the show. My kid, I mean, big fan, my wife, uh, I have three kids, uh, 18, 16 and a 10 year
00:40:59.680
old girl. Do they all live with you? Uh, right now they do. Yeah. My 18 year old going to the
00:41:07.080
community college and, um, he's working like pretty much full time. Okay. Are you, are you
00:41:12.880
paying for his food? What's that? You, are you paying for his food? Yeah. Okay. That's
00:41:19.980
right now. Yeah. He helps out a lot. Listen to me. When you start to feel bad about having
00:41:26.560
to do what the fuck you have to do because you have a good heart, I want you to look at
00:41:30.340
your three kids and think about what the fuck they would look like if you didn't have food
00:41:34.380
for them. Yep. Andy, you, you, I, I needed to hear this, man. I know. Yeah. I got you
00:41:41.460
brother. No, man. Like honestly, look, fuck that guy. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
00:41:48.920
this is a good dude, bro. So, so this, this is something that a lot of business people struggle
00:41:53.600
with because they're good and they have morals and they have integrity. And unfortunately in
00:41:59.900
business, you have two kinds of people, you got people that want to do it right and honest.
00:42:05.800
And then you got the people who know how to take advantage of people. And then when you're
00:42:09.780
one of these morally good people, you start to think of irrational shit. You're like, fuck,
00:42:14.740
I don't want to like put him out of business because then he can't do this. When that guy
00:42:19.140
will cut your motherfucking head off without thinking about it. And that's what will get you
00:42:23.360
killed. It's just the same thing we talk about on CTIs every day. When we have these bleeding
00:42:28.460
hearts for people who have shown over and over and over again, that they are criminals
00:42:33.180
and they will do bad things. If we continue to be ignorant about those things, they will
00:42:38.120
kill you too. Okay. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like we have to come to reality
00:42:42.880
and, and, and in business, this is a struggle with a lot of people because if you have integrity
00:42:49.520
and you have good morals, you don't, most people, yes, you don't feel right. Like tattling
00:42:55.920
on people and shit, you know, but like, fuck dude. Shit. I'll call them for you, Jeffrey.
00:43:01.500
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No shit. Yeah. I'll call them shit. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. No guys,
00:43:10.520
if you guys are ever randomly in the middle of Wisconsin, give me a call. You come over my,
00:43:16.000
we will, that would be fantastic. But no man, guys, I appreciate your, your time, your advice.
00:43:22.900
You guys just please keep doing what you're doing. Uh, you, people need to hear your messages
00:43:28.980
right now. Thank you, brother. It's, it's fucking spot on, uh, the world's in a really bad spot.
00:43:35.100
And I think people need to hear. We're going to get there, bro. You're, you're, it's people like
00:43:40.820
you that are going to change it, dude. Like you going out, creating your own company, showing your
00:43:45.580
kids what it looks like to build something from scratch, showing them what it looks like to overcome,
00:43:50.100
like, dude, doing things the right way, like doing cool. Yes, bro. It's you're doing it and
00:43:57.360
that's what we need. So all of those platitudes are mutual. You know what I'm saying? Like
00:44:02.780
we appreciate you. Yeah, brother. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. Uh, thank you so much again.
00:44:09.840
I mean, I could, I would, I could talk to you guys for hours, but, uh, I know you guys are busy.
00:44:14.940
I greatly appreciate you guys taking my call. I mean, this is, this is fantastic. Uh, my wife's
00:44:21.640
going to freak out my boy too. So no, just, uh, just keep being you guys. Thank you so much for
00:44:28.640
all you guys do. I needed to hear that. So thanks, man. You're welcome, bro. We all struggle with that,
00:44:36.800
bro. You're, you're fine. Just go do what you got to do. Yep. Yep. All right, guys. Appreciate it so
00:44:42.160
much. Thank you. Yep. And it, you know, it's funny. Like people, people don't think about
00:44:47.960
that way, bro. Like business is fucking cutthroat. I mean, and the shit that some people will
00:44:51.900
do to fuck you over. Oh no, dude. Listen, there is, there is respect amongst competitors that
00:45:00.200
are above the table and all the ones below the table. You got a fucking crush period. Yeah.
00:45:05.920
Okay. Um, that's been the experience. It's real, bro. So like that, that dude, and what I said to
00:45:14.740
Jeffrey was true. That guy will take his fucking house. He will take his truck. He'll take his
00:45:18.900
fucking food. He'll fucking let his kids starve. Probably take his wife. He gives no fucks about
00:45:24.060
you, man. And by you giving a fuck about him, you're putting yourself in a vulnerable position.
00:45:28.800
Yeah. I love it, dude. Well guys, Andy, that was three. Yep. Nice and easy Monday, bro.
00:45:32.460
Yeah, it was. It was. Um, all right guys. Well, listen, we will see you tomorrow with
00:45:37.040
CTI. I appreciate you guys. Don't forget. Uh, make sure you get that form energy. Bye
00:45:43.520
to share one. That's how we're going to do it forever. So, uh, tag me in your shit. I want
00:45:49.760
to see this and, uh, yeah, man, let's go kick some ass.
00:45:54.780
Went from sleeping on the floor. Now my jewelry box froze. Fuck a pole. Fuck a stove. Counted millions
00:46:00.740
in the cold. Bad bitch. Bootage woke. Got her on bankroll. Can't fold. Doesn't know. Headshot. Case closed.