REAL AF with Andy Frisella - November 10, 2025


962. Q&AF: Creating A Bigger Sense Of Urgency, Discipling Employees & Managing Your Team From A Distance


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

189.70938

Word Count

14,581

Sentence Count

4

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

75


Summary

On this episode of the Real AF Podcast, we have special guest DJ Skylar on the show. DJ talks about his mental toughness journey and how he got to where he is now, and why he thinks you should wear glasses as soon as you turn 30.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 what is up guys it's andy for selling this is the show for the realists say goodbye to the lies
00:00:21.100 the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys
00:00:24.980 today we have q and af that's where you submit the questions and we give you the answers
00:00:31.320 you can submit your questions a number of different ways malcolm x is going to tell you
00:00:35.520 well i have a dream that you can submit your questions a few different ways
00:00:40.620 guys uh first we email your questions into ask andy dandy for seller.com
00:00:46.080 you guys can also click the link in the description below and submit your questions
00:00:49.980 for a chance to be on the call in or also drop your questions in the comments of the q and af episodes
00:00:54.960 all right and uh if you didn't know there is shows within the show okay tomorrow we're going
00:01:00.940 to have cruise the internet we call that cti that's where we put topics on the screen over here we see
00:01:06.480 what's going on in the world we uh pick it apart we laugh at it and then we talk about what we need
00:01:10.480 to do to solve these problems because ultimately it is our problems to solve sometimes we're going
00:01:15.460 to have real talk real talk is just five to 20 minutes of me giving you some real talk and then
00:01:19.100 sometimes we will have 75 hard verses if you're unfamiliar with 75 hard is the initial phase
00:01:25.520 of the live hard program uh which you can get for free at episode 208 on the audio feed it's only on
00:01:32.260 the audio feed it's episode 208 of real af and uh it'll give you the whole live hard program if you're
00:01:38.120 unfamiliar with live hard it is uh the world's most popular mental transformation program ever
00:01:43.260 and there is a book written by me on it called the book on mental toughness
00:01:47.840 it has the entire live hard program plus a whole bunch of other information that's not on the
00:01:53.120 podcast and you can get that book at andy for solid.com definitely not required but if you're
00:01:58.160 someone like me that likes to know the ins and outs it's a great read uh we do have a fee for the
00:02:04.580 show we do things a little different here uh we ask very simply that you know if you get something
00:02:10.180 out of the show if it gives you some good information if it makes you think it makes you laugh it gives
00:02:13.960 a new perspective that you do us a solid and help us get the word out okay so uh don't be a hoe
00:02:20.020 share the show all right my brothers what's up hey what is that what do you those are fake no these
00:02:27.620 are real why are you gonna wear you're only 30 years old yeah is that old yeah so now you gotta
00:02:34.700 have glasses as soon as i turn 30 it happened how the fuck am i in my mid 40s but i don't need glasses
00:02:39.860 you do need glasses no i don't you've said you need the glasses i've said that but do you see
00:02:44.200 me wearing them dude i ain't no bitch no more because i can't fucking see shit well
00:02:48.300 you mean like i couldn't see that that turn off a couple weeks ago that's right that's right
00:02:54.100 dude it's all right man i get it i get you know it's the it's the nighttime man yeah it's the
00:03:01.400 nighttime it's uh all you guys shaking your head huh it's all you guys it's over 30 bro it happens
00:03:07.420 really yeah bro it's a dude it probably doesn't that's what it is i started doing the tinted
00:03:13.880 windshield because it looks cool and i can't see shit i can't see shit i'm gonna end up wrapped
00:03:21.060 around some fucking pole because i want to look cool fuck man how'd they get me fuck man he look
00:03:27.260 good doing it though yeah that's right we give that a 10 fuck man all right so what we got today
00:03:33.800 dude we got we got uh it's monday guys we're making people better today got some great questions
00:03:38.380 lined up so uh shall we what you sipping on i'm sipping on that uh on the orange orange fury i got
00:03:47.560 the scissor because i'm feeling furious yeah the scissor yeah i'm sipping on the scissor over here
00:03:54.040 man i like the grape a lot i just can't drink it i get it bro i want a crime spree yeah that's
00:04:00.040 what i'm saying you know fucking with the way the interest rates are right now like yeah you can't
00:04:05.020 can't afford that my credit can't go down you know i'm saying man let's get into it man let's get some
00:04:10.720 calls let's get uh let's get our boy skylar all right on the phone uh here's skylar
00:04:16.040 hello skylar what's up dude yo is this dj this is the one and only dj skylar what's up bro it's
00:04:40.180 andy too dj dj let me be on the show today
00:04:43.920 yeah dude that's crazy how you doing i'm good brother how are you
00:04:50.980 man i'm just trying not to freeze my balls off out here in utah is it cold is it cold in utah right
00:04:58.580 now yeah up in the mountains oh okay gotcha i forget utah's like that it's like split
00:05:06.180 yeah mountains and desert it's a beautiful state it's crazy yeah so what you got going on brother
00:05:12.860 what are you doing so i'm at this point where i'm about to create a greater level of urgency
00:05:26.100 to pursue business ownership and like nine years ago i had this point in my life where
00:05:35.560 i was like i need to get my money right and uh like any 19 year old at that time i was trying to find
00:05:42.000 direction and navigate life but uh ultimately i i chose college and i graduated in 2020 and i got
00:05:50.960 buried under student loans so i actually moved that same year to a new state job hops and that's
00:05:58.100 actually where i found during that job hopping is when i found real af on youtube and 75 hard where
00:06:06.000 just changed my life for the better and finally got like a salary worthwhile and just kept working hard
00:06:14.340 started winning my role like all my work was getting done ahead of time and i started
00:06:18.800 executing on like other people's projects without being asked to and in return i was given what i
00:06:26.100 asked for and how and now i have like all this time and flexibility in my schedule but during that time
00:06:31.720 i was hammering away at that loan and that debt was easy to attack because it came with serious
00:06:36.680 consequences if i fell back into that position like when i started financially but now i'm now i'm about
00:06:44.260 be on the other side of that loan and without that external pressure uh just trying to create a new
00:06:50.180 level of urgency to preserve pursue business ownership and now that i'm entering that more stable phase
00:06:58.560 and working towards becoming that um like my question is what do i need to keep in mind to create that
00:07:05.960 greater level of urgency than the level that i had when i was fighting to escape that debt
00:07:12.560 bro this is a really good question and uh i'm glad you asked it because a lot of people struggle with
00:07:20.320 what you're talking about and they're not aware that this is the this is the destruction of the success
00:07:26.520 that they've created so i went through this as well brother um you know when you don't have any money
00:07:33.500 and things aren't going well you have to perform there's no other option and um then when you start
00:07:41.160 to get a little comfort like you're talking about that urgency sort of fades away because you do have
00:07:47.120 options in theory all right um and that was a big struggle for me when i started making money
00:07:55.760 uh i went three or four years and i'm like all right man i'm good i'm good i'm good and then i started
00:08:00.540 feeling like very comfortable and sort of relaxed and uh then the money stopped coming in because of
00:08:09.740 my comfort that i had uh you know started to feel naturally because i was i didn't have my back
00:08:17.180 against the wall and i created this mindset in myself which i now talk to you guys about called
00:08:28.320 zero options mentality all right and what zero options mentality is is that you have to train
00:08:35.360 yourself to think of yourself as if you have zero options but to do it and the way that i really
00:08:48.420 cultivated that is i would think about where i would be five years from now if i remain in this
00:08:53.500 comfortable position where i would be 10 years from now what would the story be if i lost everything
00:08:59.060 and that created enough urgency in me to continue to stay on the gas and then what i also did at that
00:09:05.340 time is i found other reasons to work my ass off all right with urgency such as the people who have
00:09:13.980 helped me build my company uh my my responsibility to my employees i allow those things to put the pressure
00:09:20.300 on me now outside of the um you know i guess individual financial pressure that you know i had
00:09:27.880 back then so the whole trick here skylar is to figure out ways that leverage you into action that
00:09:36.760 may not be actual reality but you trick yourself into feeling it to be real reality and that's how you
00:09:45.760 start but if you really dig into it dude you have to understand that even when things are comfortable
00:09:53.720 you have other obligations than just yourself right life is not supposed to be lived where you
00:10:01.020 you just go out there uh you get yourself comfortable you know you live in your house with
00:10:07.780 the white picket fence and 2.5 kids and just live that life that's an empty life for most people that's
00:10:13.760 why most people feel very frustrated in their life and they can't figure out why and it's because
00:10:18.240 human beings are naturally born to create become and build things in their nature and so when you
00:10:25.300 don't have that in any way shape or form even if you have comfort you're going to have a lack of
00:10:32.020 fulfillment because you know that you're leaving things on the table and i say all that to say this
00:10:36.800 you have to cultivate a zero options mentality you've got to put your back against the wall
00:10:42.760 as if everything you do matters
00:10:45.860 because everything you do does matter and you're only
00:10:50.700 28 is that right
00:10:52.520 yeah yeah bro you got a long road ahead of you dude and you have to ask yourself like where you're at
00:11:00.440 now is that all you actually ever want and if it is there's nothing wrong with that but just
00:11:05.340 understand that when you start to feel unfulfilled or you start to feel like something's missing
00:11:10.580 what is probably missing in your life is you're leaving shit on the table and you know it deep
00:11:17.560 down and that starts to eat away especially anybody who is an achiever or who is driven or who has
00:11:23.960 ambition and so i don't know what your current situation is but i could tell you you're not making
00:11:31.240 enough money okay you're not you are very young and you have a long road ahead of you and if you
00:11:39.180 don't consistently stay on the gas eventually this comfort that you've created will fade away
00:11:44.540 and you have to understand that bro that that is just the reality that that is a that is uncle andy
00:11:50.960 telling nephew skylar hey brother this is the way the path works and uh i've been down that path
00:11:57.440 many times dude and it's no fun getting to a point where you know the success that you've seen starts
00:12:03.960 to fade away because you started to feel comfortable and i think the fact if i'm being real with you i
00:12:08.820 think the fact that you're aware of it is what's actually going to keep you from becoming one of
00:12:14.020 those statistics right most people are never aware of this most people never come to the conclusion of
00:12:19.320 i'm doing good but that scares me i'm doing good but i'm scared of what's going to happen down the
00:12:26.560 road most people skylar will say i'm doing good so i'm good and that's whenever they start to take
00:12:32.180 their foot off the gas they stop paying attention to details they stop doing the things that they
00:12:36.720 were doing whenever they were digging themselves out and building their life and then it crumbles
00:12:42.640 and um you know the fact that you're aware of that ahead of time brother is is a very profound
00:12:48.960 awareness that most people lack and you don't realize that because you're so very young
00:12:54.540 how rare that is okay but i can tell you for sure that that the fact that you even asked that
00:13:00.660 question tells me that this isn't going to happen to you it's not you're not going to be one of these
00:13:06.400 people that loses uh you're not going to lose that awareness okay you're going to keep it and um
00:13:12.520 yeah man i mean it's it's a mental fuck and you have to you have to transition your mental
00:13:18.800 mental into a place of zero options and and that's what i do man like you know um i live a
00:13:25.440 very good life i've i've done very well financially for myself as you guys you know know uh i have
00:13:31.440 literally everything that i've ever wanted and the stuff i don't want i could get if i really wanted to
00:13:37.560 um and so i had to come up with a different purpose and a different thing that made me urgent
00:13:42.680 and that came down to leveraging other things that mattered in my life so um so yeah bro i i
00:13:51.380 that that's how you got to cultivate it dude you you have to realize that urgency is not a
00:13:57.980 it's it's not something that you can afford to allow fade from your life because when you allow
00:14:05.700 the urgency to fade all the results end up fading too well can i throw something in real quick because
00:14:10.820 i think this is so important especially to the younger crowd you you taught me this and and
00:14:14.580 again listen i'm not a financial advisor i'm not none of that right but here's not but here's
00:14:19.080 something okay here this is this is important bro you you taught me this like sometimes you also have
00:14:25.220 to like intentionally kind of make your situation a little bit uncomfortable yeah stretch yourself a
00:14:30.800 little bit just just a fucking little bit man like i'm not saying go get a fucking lambo skylar
00:14:35.080 that's not what i'm saying all right yeah but you got to kind of put yourself in the situation
00:14:39.000 where like okay well all right this is new coming in now i gotta work a little bit harder
00:14:43.340 to get to make sure that i'm still good yeah i think that's so important that's a real thing
00:14:47.640 dude and it feels it feels counterintuitive because you feel like you're being a little
00:14:52.260 irresponsible yeah like for me those those situations in my life um where i've accumulated
00:14:58.860 a lot of funds what i what i end up doing all the time is just taking most of those funds and
00:15:04.360 reinvesting that in the projects that i have in order to create a little bit more uh discomfort
00:15:09.580 financially so there's all kinds of things you can do brother but uh at the end of the day
00:15:15.260 uh you've you've actually done some really really awesome shit you know digging yourself out of
00:15:20.640 financial loans we all know that student loans are predatory and basically useless and bury people
00:15:25.720 intentionally and the fact that you're 28 years old and you've almost dug out of that it says a lot
00:15:30.420 about you bro yeah thank you um it it's totally this mindset shift where i feel like i need to build
00:15:42.560 it it's like the only it's just what convinced i'm convinced of and whenever i'm working towards
00:15:50.700 something and people close to me tell me that what are you they're asking me what am i doing or they
00:15:56.820 just don't believe in it it just kind of seems like that indicator that i'm doing something
00:16:01.800 worthwhile absolutely and there's there's all this there's all this uh obligation i'm starting to think
00:16:13.280 of now as i'm transitioning my mindset of like okay well what would happen to this person that i
00:16:20.320 really care about if i don't do this for them right exactly dude exactly you know i had a situation
00:16:28.000 that happened to me in like 2014 where i got pneumonia real bad some of you guys have heard the
00:16:33.060 story but some of you guys haven't and i missed work for like 17 days which was the longest that i
00:16:38.800 had missed work uh up until that time and um i was sick and i i didn't feel good but i was and i
00:16:48.600 wasn't working but i could see my bank account going up and at that point in time you know i was
00:16:54.020 making the most money i ever made but i wasn't happy i wasn't excited i felt like what i was doing
00:17:01.000 was pointless and uh then i had to leverage that on i had i i actually snapped out of it and i thought
00:17:07.260 to myself i'm like this is why fucking wealthy people kill themselves because they don't transition
00:17:13.160 over to these other meanings that are more fulfilling i mean look dude you know all the cars and
00:17:18.260 the house and the shit that we all like and fight for and all that shit i mean dude the reality is is
00:17:24.600 it's not about that stuff it's about the fucking build it's about the game it's about the process
00:17:29.820 and if you make it about stuff eventually you're going to be unfulfilled and if you transfer that
00:17:37.600 you know i always talk about this because gary v and i have gotten in a couple arguments about this
00:17:42.460 um just misaligned where he says things like you know cars and this and that bullshit yeah but for
00:17:50.320 some people that's their big driver right like for me when i started dude i wanted cars and i wanted a
00:17:56.360 cool house and i wanted this and i wanted that they were very selfish desires but i also think natural
00:18:02.700 desires is like why people start businesses and try to become uh financially independent and that's okay
00:18:10.020 but eventually you have to transition from uh a selfish point of view to a selfless point of view
00:18:18.620 to where like you're saying bro you know the people around you are going to depend on you much more than
00:18:23.200 you think and um when you transition your your pursuit from something that you're going to gain
00:18:30.900 to something that you're going to do for others that have helped you or that care about you or that
00:18:37.300 depend on you it really creates a different level of urgency in you and i'm sure this is how probably
00:18:44.140 people feel when they have kids um i you know i don't have kids but everybody i know that's young
00:18:50.900 that has kids they're like man the first time you see that little fucker come out you know you have a
00:18:55.580 different level of fucking understanding of what it's about and that's you know that's probably the
00:19:00.240 closest thing i i can experience to that personally um so i think you're thinking about it the right way
00:19:07.420 dude 100 dude love it man yeah there's like this idea of helping other people as you're going along
00:19:22.180 working towards this great dream that could that is like going to benefit you financially like
00:19:30.120 materially but you know in this stage that i'm in it's very like lonely i would describe it where
00:19:37.420 like i lost a lot of friends and stuff and now it's like how do i build better relationships with new
00:19:43.240 people and you know ultimately help them while still getting something out of it well it's the same
00:19:50.580 thing that you did in the beginning dude um you're just doing it at a different level and that's what
00:19:55.020 i'll say too another way to really cultivate urgency is to expand your vision for yourself okay you know
00:20:01.420 um true champion true winners people who do great things they don't they don't ever really achieve
00:20:09.340 their goals okay they get to a point where they understand they're going to achieve it and then they say
00:20:15.200 okay well i'm going to expand this this is what i could actually do i didn't know it was going
00:20:20.260 to take me this amount of time to do that so now i have this much runway in front of me and they take
00:20:25.540 the progress and the momentum that they've created and they create a bigger goal which then instills a
00:20:31.480 new level of urgency on them and that goal can be many different things it could be i want to uh build a
00:20:37.380 a school system uh for my community i want to be able to solve this problem i want to be able to take
00:20:44.140 care of my family i want to be able to take care of people or it can even be i want bigger life for
00:20:50.580 myself you know it could be all kinds of things to cultivate that urgency but i don't think you're
00:20:56.580 going to lose it dude i really don't you're asking the right questions that make here's what somebody
00:21:01.260 would say that was going to have a problem with that they would say they would have said like this
00:21:05.600 i started when i was 19 i got myself in all this debt and um i paid it off and uh i'm good
00:21:14.720 and that's where the question that's where it would have stopped yeah that would have been the win
00:21:20.420 so the fact that you're already thinking about this bro you got to believe in yourself a little bit and
00:21:25.360 i can just tell you from talking to you bro you're wired you're wired different than everybody else
00:21:30.200 and if we're being real you know uh you you if you're an ambitious human and you're someone that
00:21:38.260 wants to win and you're someone with big dreams you need to run the opposite direction of everybody
00:21:44.060 else 99 of the time these people are not on the same path with you that doesn't mean they're bad
00:21:50.720 people it doesn't mean they're bad friends it doesn't mean they can't you can't be civil with
00:21:54.580 them or have a beer or you know an energy drink or whatever it is you guys do out there in utah
00:21:59.360 ain't no beers out there right well you know what they say about mormons bro if you if you fucking
00:22:04.960 if you uh if you take one fish in you better take two otherwise i drink all your beer that's right
00:22:09.980 you know so so i don't even know if uh if skylar's mormon but you get my point brother you know what i'm
00:22:17.260 saying no love it man no i i do get the point and yeah it's really and now that without that
00:22:25.020 external pressure like figure it out well what's it going to be theory
00:22:28.880 what's it going to be you know sit down sit down and spend the next you know today and tomorrow and
00:22:34.320 think about like okay well what's my next thing what's my next thing you know um i'm building a
00:22:40.280 whole new company right now uh i talked about it last week on cti like and it's a tech company and
00:22:46.220 it's a new challenge for me and it's something that i don't i didn't a year ago i didn't know
00:22:50.840 anything about and that was the expansion of my vision to maintain my urgency and now that urgency
00:22:56.000 flows into all my other projects too right i'm more tuned in to everything else going on because
00:23:01.600 i've created that urgency in myself to do this other thing so you know i think you just need to
00:23:07.440 sit down and think about what that's going to look like for you both personally what it's going to mean
00:23:11.720 to your family or your future family what it's going to mean to you when you're 50 or 60 or 70
00:23:16.380 and think about those things because i could tell you the one thing you don't want to do bro
00:23:20.640 is you don't want to get to the 60 70 80 years old and say fuck i was on a good track bro and i
00:23:26.800 fucked it up or i would i could have done so much more or you know and and by the way bro we're all
00:23:32.140 going to have regrets when we die like there's it's just the trade-off of life um but one of the one of
00:23:39.160 the worst ones i think that someone could have is is saying i could have been this but i i didn't
00:23:45.000 and i think that would be a terrible thing to to think about when you're you know time is up
00:23:49.600 it's real man skylar we do we appreciate you calling in bro yeah that's awesome thank you
00:23:56.300 for taking my call um i'm not mormon by the way well you can have some beer yeah
00:24:01.840 but yeah this has been great thanks for yeah thank you andy you're welcome bro it's just
00:24:10.320 reassurance you know everything i'm saying here you already knew it
00:24:13.240 cool well have a good one guys all right brother you too
00:24:19.680 that's a good question man no it's super important but i think the other piece too
00:24:26.140 you truly believe like you can lose it all any day oh yeah i can you know i'm saying so like
00:24:30.800 that's not bullshit but like dude it's so different entrepreneurship never changes
00:24:34.840 if you're an entrepreneur you are going to ride on the fucking line of losing your ass your entire life
00:24:41.740 you're only three two mistakes away or two bad moves or one business deal or you know
00:24:47.700 fucking one government regulation change who fucking knows so you have to go when you can
00:24:53.880 last night um uh we went to we're recording this on saturday for you guys on monday we went to see uh
00:25:03.180 jamie johnson and uh riley green and
00:25:07.380 jamie johnson is like for you guys that don't know he's my favorite artist of any genre of all time
00:25:15.980 and so to get to sit down and talk to him and and you know become friends with him and and you know
00:25:22.100 we spent a lot of time together yesterday one of the things we spoke about the entire time was
00:25:26.820 you know it's really no different for anybody in any lane like they see the result they see the the
00:25:34.040 but that what they don't see is the 20 30 year grind that has been put into that and um it's really no
00:25:42.500 different for a musician musician or an entrepreneur or a pastor or anybody trying to do anything it's
00:25:49.080 just reps and reps and reps and reps and reps and reps and um you know i'm fortunate enough in my
00:25:56.540 life to be around some very high achievers you know that in the public that people know and every
00:26:02.260 time i have a private conversation with any of these people i mean it's the same thing it's like
00:26:06.360 they're normal dudes normal women who have put in a gazillion more reps than people will ever
00:26:13.680 understand uh and they keep the gas down because they they don't know when it's going to end you
00:26:19.220 know what i'm saying so the thing that we were talking about was you know the the way the country
00:26:23.760 boys say it you know is you got to make hay when the sun's shining you know what i'm saying
00:26:26.980 and that doesn't change for anyone uh you're going to get older and there's going to be a new guy that
00:26:33.800 comes back behind you and you know you've got to continue to fight those fucking battles your whole
00:26:39.640 life and uh it's no different for any lane that you decide you want to be in yeah i fucking love it
00:26:45.060 man even if you're an employee right like you're going to be pretty good and you even if you're the best
00:26:49.980 employee of a company and you're making a great you can't you can't think that there's not going
00:26:54.920 to be someone that comes around behind you that fucking wants your shit you don't continue to
00:26:58.780 invest in your skills right don't fucking yeah that's right eventually you get passed you know
00:27:01.920 how many you know how many times over my business career i've had a situation where
00:27:05.620 my literal best employee ended up like failing out of the company because they got too comfortable
00:27:11.980 and they said oh well i'm the best and then they stopped doing the things that they used to do
00:27:16.040 they just ride on that identity because they were the best at one time yeah and then all of a sudden
00:27:21.080 you know a year later you're having to have a conversation with them and they can't understand
00:27:27.260 why you're even having the conversation yeah because in their mind they're the best they still
00:27:31.320 got the varsity letterman jacket on correct when we've graduated college now yeah right and dude that's
00:27:36.920 that that happens in entrepreneurs it happens with employees it happens with anybody anywhere so like
00:27:43.660 the sense of urgency has to be real because you have to understand that this is a competition
00:27:50.880 and there are people that are going to come try to take your spot all the time and we see this on the
00:27:56.120 internet right oh the only person you're in competition with is yourself true true kind of like if you
00:28:02.880 don't compete with yourself to get better you but you will get passed by someone else right so this
00:28:08.360 idealistic mindset of oh this isn't a competition that's total bullshit like it's total bullshit
00:28:15.160 there is a limited number of spaces there is way more people and those people are trying to get to
00:28:21.160 those spaces what is that called that's called a competition okay so this whole idea that we're
00:28:27.160 going to remove competition from society and all we got to do is compete with ourselves it's total
00:28:33.100 fucking bullshit like it's total bullshit just live laugh love guys dude it's it's it's very it's
00:28:39.700 damaging it's a damaging narrative to people you know what i mean yeah so that's crazy man i love it
00:28:45.580 man let's keep uh keep it cruiser moving sorry oh yeah let's keep improving yeah there you go
00:28:51.440 all right guys any uh let's get uh question number two uh andy i joined the company where i am
00:29:00.380 currently at about three years ago my dad hired me uh he's the president of the company we are an
00:29:06.820 esop company um i'm trying to grow and scale the business since uh it has run very old school with
00:29:13.360 no social media no website this is a foundry supplies slash sand company i'm trying very hard
00:29:21.080 to learn the industry and do everything i can to grow the business and myself i recently hired a friend
00:29:27.480 but he has been slacking off and i've told him to pick a pick it up and he didn't now i caught him
00:29:34.280 smoking weed on the job on the property and i had to let him go i feel really bad because of how he took
00:29:40.840 it i know it's the right thing but i would like to know if you would do anything different and how i
00:29:46.800 should have gone about it i appreciate everything you guys do i mean look man um that's the unfortunate
00:29:53.420 reality of a great culture and trying to build a strong company you know when you care about your
00:30:01.940 people and you spend so much time with them you know you end up being friends with them yeah and
00:30:06.940 sometimes when you become friends with people they start to take advantage of that friendship and
00:30:12.740 the only way you could really be friends with your people is that if they respect you and you respect
00:30:18.140 them and that means that when we come to work we're here to work when we're not at work i'm not
00:30:24.360 your boss we're friends we're cool we we we could fucking drink beer we could smoke some weed we could
00:30:30.040 talk all the shit you want you call me a motherfucker i'll call you a motherfucker but then when we go over
00:30:36.100 here dude it's business time and not everybody can operate that way they let those things bleed
00:30:41.440 together and um so there's been a number of situations where over the years i we've had to
00:30:49.120 let go of people that i really fucking liked like there's there's really nobody that i can think of
00:30:54.940 that i ever let go that i didn't like as a person yeah right um there's one okay but that was a many many
00:31:05.220 many years ago yeah uh but yeah i mean look i don't think you did anything wrong i think you know
00:31:13.180 what will eventually probably happen in that situation is that friend if he's actually your
00:31:18.060 friend he's going to come back and he's probably going to say hey man i know i fucked up and i'm sorry
00:31:22.120 i shouldn't have done that that was crossing the boundaries you know um i i've had to let go i had
00:31:28.140 to let go of somebody uh not too long ago who i found out was you know doing very similar things uh
00:31:37.640 drinking during the day um you know they had an alcohol problem and we were trying to work through
00:31:44.680 it and and then that that problem wasn't able to get solved and we we i found out some things uh that
00:31:52.060 was going on and we had to let this guy go and this is like this is a guy who i fucking loved and i still
00:31:57.660 love but he's mad at me you know what i'm saying and um that sucks but at the end of the day my
00:32:05.840 responsibility is to the team first okay um it's to the company first above my own interests it's
00:32:12.260 it's company first um you know there's a little saying you know you work for the company first and
00:32:18.980 you work for your boss second and that's how i look at it i don't look at it like oh this is my
00:32:25.080 shit and uh you know i look at it like i'm a part of the team and this is my responsibility and if i
00:32:31.540 don't protect the team then that's i'm not doing my job and that's the same for for this person writing
00:32:38.180 in uh it's very difficult and it's hard sometimes but you got to hold the line and if you don't hold
00:32:44.440 the line like if you didn't hold the line with this a year from now you'd have the whole fucking
00:32:48.200 team out there smoking pot okay and not watching what you do that's right how you're gonna respond
00:32:53.260 dude and here's the problem when you when everybody else knows like when all your high achievers and
00:32:58.880 your hard workers and everybody that's kicking ass knows that you're not taking care of this other
00:33:03.360 thing they start to resent you because they're like well he gets to do all this special shit i don't get
00:33:08.880 to do that and then it demoralizes your good people so like those are things that you have to
00:33:15.440 realize when you're in a leadership position which are incredibly hard to do because you become
00:33:21.660 friends with these people and you like them and you know their family and you you understand where
00:33:26.260 they are in life and you know for a long time i would put put all of that on my back bro and it
00:33:34.180 was really really really it's still really hard for me to let go of people because i care about their
00:33:40.860 outcome yeah but what i started to realize is that if i didn't let those people go then i'm
00:33:47.880 stifling their development as a human being because they need to recognize that that's a
00:33:53.340 that's a part that you can't can't touch that stove yeah right you can touch that one you can't touch that
00:33:57.820 one but you can't touch that hot one bro it's non-negotiable yeah it's just not and and that's
00:34:02.900 part of being a leader dude you know sometimes these decisions are not fun you know if you're
00:34:07.240 going to lead people bro people there's going to be people that don't fucking like you even when you're
00:34:12.380 trying to do the right thing for everybody and that's that sucks but at the end of the day that's
00:34:18.160 the difference between being a great leader and being someone who who doesn't lead at all right
00:34:22.960 so um i definitely understand i think you did the right thing 100 and i think you know you have to
00:34:30.020 get comfortable with holding that line and if i were this person i would be proud that you were able
00:34:33.740 to do that because a lot of people can't do that a lot of people can't look at their friend and say
00:34:38.160 hey bro um i'm sorry but you know i know you've put a lot into this and i know you've been like dude
00:34:43.600 this situation that he's dealing with is much easier than the situations that you're going to
00:34:48.740 deal with in the future because you just hired this dude and this happened pretty quickly but
00:34:54.340 think 20 years down the road and you got someone who's put 15 years into your shit and then they go
00:34:58.820 off the fucking rails that's a fucking that's hard yeah okay so be thankful it happened this quick
00:35:05.320 well yeah but here's the thing is is the reason
00:35:09.960 well here's what i'll say you doing that now sets a standard with everybody else okay they're going
00:35:18.040 to know that you're not fucking around and i don't see that as a bad thing that's going to be a good
00:35:23.700 thing for your leadership capital yeah because everybody else is going to see it and they're going
00:35:27.080 to say well if he let go of somebody who's his friend for that i mean the fuck you gonna do with me
00:35:31.700 yeah that's right so and um that's a hard skill set to learn especially when you actually care
00:35:38.040 about your people uh but it's still a necessary skill set to have you have to have it yeah you know
00:35:44.400 i think too like you know just because you care about somebody else's outcome you still can't care
00:35:50.160 more about their outcome than they care about correct and but that's very that's very difficult
00:35:54.280 when you've started something from nothing yeah and you've had people around you who have
00:35:59.520 contributed and helped build and like a lot of a lot of founders and ceos don't care about that
00:36:05.960 they're like fuck them i don't give a shit but that always leads to a very a terrible culture so if i
00:36:11.640 were going to run the business and i were going to choose between me not giving a fuck and just
00:36:17.340 letting these people come in and having a shitty culture or me giving a lot of fucks and having a
00:36:21.740 great culture i'm going to choose that even though it's harder right the hardest things in life
00:36:25.700 are the most rewarding and if i didn't have that empathy for for for my people
00:36:31.360 i don't think they would be bought in the way that they're bought in no so no you know like there
00:36:38.100 but there's there's a line that you can cross there like you know what i'm saying yeah and you have
00:36:43.020 to hold it and if you don't hold it your your leadership capital fades and there's been a number
00:36:46.720 of times in my business where my leadership capital has faded because i've allowed people to stay
00:36:52.360 who i knew should have been gone right and this is probably my weak point as a leader yeah um
00:36:58.600 is that i care too much but i wouldn't trade it because i think it's provided much more benefit
00:37:05.180 in my life than it has these negative moments yeah you know yeah for sure so it's almost like too like
00:37:10.240 what's good for the goose good for the gander yeah the collective like i care more about the culture
00:37:14.720 of everybody not just one soul individual because there's consequences both ways yeah that's right
00:37:20.280 and you know if you want to win and you want to build and you're serious about building what
00:37:26.300 you're building this is a requirement you know and i'm lucky enough to have people around me who
00:37:32.820 identify that weakness in me who will sit me down and say hey dude no yeah and you know that's my
00:37:38.880 weakness i know it yeah sal knows it's my weakness jason knows it's my weakness will knows it's my
00:37:43.700 weakness so like they are very comfortable saying hey mike taylor knows it's my weakness those guys are
00:37:49.840 very comfortable saying hey this guy's got to go and here's why and now i've just learned to listen
00:37:55.240 to him yeah you know yeah so i don't think that that's if you're going to be weak at something i
00:38:01.340 think that's a good thing to be weak at almost um because the benefits of it long term are much better
00:38:07.860 but you can't you still can't you still you still have to learn how to hold the line even when you
00:38:12.960 care yeah and i think one of the things that really helped me realize that is that you know i heard uh
00:38:19.280 i heard somebody say one time you know when you try to protect people from their own karma
00:38:26.260 you end up receiving the bad karma that they were supposed to receive and that stuck with me you
00:38:33.060 know because like think about this situation you have this guy who's not contributing who's who's
00:38:37.960 setting a bad example and you protect him over and over and over again and then you end up receiving
00:38:43.000 the bad karma and the bad karma being your entire culture is like fucked right and then you got a
00:38:47.980 bigger mess to deal with and they're still cool yeah right exactly and not only that not only are
00:38:52.920 they still cool once that person's created that standard with everybody else now you're the
00:38:57.440 fucking asshole for giving them a fucking break that's right you know what i'm saying so you know
00:39:02.440 this this person is is in their first time of having to deal with something like this and you know
00:39:06.920 the first time i had to let someone go bro i fucking cried and i'm not embarrassed to say so
00:39:11.760 i remember the guy's name his name was eric and i had to fire him i never fired anybody before
00:39:17.300 and this guy was like the fucking nicest fucking dude like the nicest guy ever but he just couldn't
00:39:25.140 do the job it's not that he didn't want to it's not that he didn't try hard he just couldn't he
00:39:31.380 didn't have the skills and uh bro i i i fucking got my truck after that i probably cried for a fucking
00:39:37.600 hour because i felt so horrible about it but it taught me a lesson man because after we got rid
00:39:43.680 of him things got better you know so bro it's it's it's hard when you care you know life's a lot harder
00:39:50.620 when you care honestly like all areas of life but i don't think that you're not supposed to i don't
00:39:55.620 think that callusing yourself to not care is the uh is the proper line of of uh action that's just
00:40:02.800 my personal opinion i love it man yeah i love it guys we got another call let's uh let's get you
00:40:07.680 out there in the final question question number three we're gonna get garrett garrett garrett
00:40:12.540 all right two t's yeah let's give him a call let's call
00:40:16.880 hello this is garrett garrett what's going on brother oh man it's pretty incredible to hear from
00:40:27.100 you guys what's up garrett andy what's going on brother how are you man i'm doing the best i can
00:40:35.500 under the circumstances oh that doesn't sound too good yeah i was in a motorcycle accident october 14th
00:40:43.660 my life and i'm uh i'm a small business owner i've been building my business since 2019 and
00:40:51.340 you know through covet i built my business through covet and um i have a standalone building now i
00:40:58.940 started in a trailer i fixed wheels for um collision centers and car dealership my heart's beating so
00:41:04.780 fast right now bro it's all good man a heart attack yeah motorcycle bro yeah i know man i'm
00:41:11.820 y'all don't realize how much of an impact y'all have had i mean to be honest with you it all started with
00:41:16.860 the ms ceo project somebody referred it to me when i was struggling trying to handle rejection
00:41:22.460 when i'm going into all these dealerships and everybody's got their own guy and i'm trying to
00:41:27.020 be their guy and i finally got through all that things you know thanks to you and bond and all your
00:41:32.540 guests and then eventually the real af kind of became the new one for me and i continued on and
00:41:38.220 you guys you know y'all are incredible and so thank you bro i appreciate it i know y'all need me to
00:41:43.980 get to my question i would imagine no no no listen bro we got we got time bro you're you're good just
00:41:50.540 relax i we both appreciate it yeah 100 man man all right so um i have a building now and i got a team
00:42:03.260 and i don't ever leave my my shop how many people how many people are on your team it's it's literally me
00:42:09.740 and my wife and three other people and my wife is a bad bitch she's she's such a we got three kids so
00:42:19.420 you know she's limited on her time frame but she learned how to run the equipment she's hyper
00:42:23.580 competitive against me anything i can do she can do better she tries you know and that's awesome
00:42:29.340 yeah that's good yeah i'm i'm a lucky man you know and and i try everything i can to to keep going with
00:42:35.580 the limited time i have with her at the shop and then the other guys you know they do everything
00:42:40.460 they can and sometimes complacency is an issue and i've sent in some some questions that i've overcome
00:42:46.620 in the past through you know dealing with complacency with my team and trying to motivate them and you
00:42:51.740 know culture was the answer and setting the example was the answer you know my personal excellence
00:42:57.340 journey was the answer and there was a lot of things i learned from you there just by listening you
00:43:01.980 know and just setting things in motion um so yeah i mean the question i have now i've been doing
00:43:08.540 everything it was october 14th i got my accident i had two emergency surgeries um two blood transfusions
00:43:15.820 later and and i'm still alive and i have my brain i was wearing a helmet i didn't i didn't do have any
00:43:22.140 brain trauma so um you got everything else say again i said you got everything else did you lose anything
00:43:29.500 unfortunately i'm paralyzed from the waist down i'm an mma fighter i'm a jujitsu brown belt i'm an
00:43:36.540 active competitor so this has been this has been challenging you know yeah um is that is that
00:43:42.860 permanent or is that something that's going to come back right now they're they're unsure um some people
00:43:49.100 are giving me a lot of positive ways to see it and some people are trying to tell me to get used or get
00:43:54.940 ready for my new normal like they're about to teach me how to self-cast my man i'm not ready to shove a
00:44:01.420 tube in my in my dick i'll tell you that i've been letting them do it for me i just been looking the
00:44:07.100 other way pretending i'm asleep i don't like it i'm still trying to get used to all this crap and i'm
00:44:12.300 hoping i don't have to get used to it if i just push through and get these legs working again man these
00:44:17.980 legs are a big part of my life brother plenty of people have uh overcome what you're dealing
00:44:24.540 with right now just keep that in mind and i'm trying to find them and i found a couple of them
00:44:29.340 and and i'm looking online and i'm sending messages and i'm trying to do what i can to be inspired by
00:44:35.740 others and you know what's your instagram real quick because i guarantee you there's people listening
00:44:40.620 that have dealt with this my instagram is uh never quit underscore jujitsu okay so never quit
00:44:49.020 underscore jiu jitsu nailed it all right if you got it man any of the guys out there listening have
00:44:58.460 dealt with this uh let's let's hit garrett up and share some share some knowledge with them about how to
00:45:03.500 overcome this please that mean the world to me yeah i'm a few weeks in you know so there's a lot of
00:45:09.980 swelling i broke my femur in half and when the when i hit the guy's trailer um he pulled out in front
00:45:16.140 of me and he must have forgot he was pulling a trailer and i you know i give the man grace there
00:45:22.060 had to have been something i don't know what it was and i'd love to meet the guy yeah i would want to
00:45:28.860 know what the hell his personality is like or at least his character yeah i'm sure but i'm sure you
00:45:33.980 don't feel good about it brother yeah it was a pretty bad situation you know they thought i was dead it was
00:45:39.980 treating like a vehicular homicide and a lot of my family and friends were driving by the incident
00:45:45.260 thinking whoever was on that bike was dead a lot of people didn't know i had a bike because i bought
00:45:49.660 it as a gift for myself because i had bought my i had bought a building man and i created my own
00:45:56.460 product for wheel cleaning and wheel take it because of you you know i forked off just like you say
00:46:01.420 you have something you fork it and and you continue to to find the next thing that you can fork and make
00:46:07.260 your own you know and i try to take a lot of steps that you put out for us to follow and i'm working
00:46:13.420 it you know and i got i got blessed with this old man that owned this building in my hometown that he
00:46:19.580 doesn't even have a mortgage on it or nothing and we signed a deal we revised it about 12 times but we
00:46:26.620 we got the deal figured out and we signed it for 15 years i'm paying him a payment for 15 years and that
00:46:34.300 that joker is mine there you go and you know we're a year in and and unfortunately this happens and i
00:46:39.980 got a little nervous that he was going to get scared but he has my back and he sees how much
00:46:44.940 growth i've done and i feel like everybody in my community has just been amazing more than i could
00:46:50.620 have ever imagined you know and it's been a blessing well look brother here's the thing okay bad things are
00:47:01.180 going to happen to all of us we don't know what bad things are going to happen you know and we can't
00:47:06.060 spend our lives competing over who got the worst of the bad things you know and um what you're dealing
00:47:12.940 with i'm sure is very difficult right now you know you're dealing with a major life change you're
00:47:18.620 dealing with a lot of uncertainty and feelings and probably frustration and a lot of you know and um
00:47:26.860 um but i will say this dude every bad thing that's ever happened to me every bad thing that i know
00:47:35.100 that has happened to others we have some guys here that have have some pretty serious uh injuries and and
00:47:42.540 things that they've overcome um one of the guys i think of is austin um who run you know austin was born
00:47:51.100 with a with a physical disability and he has never let it stop him no and uh you know probably
00:47:58.860 one of the most baddest ass i think he's the baddest ass dude we got in here for sure yeah i think he's
00:48:02.620 the toughest guy we have in this fucking building and um you have an opportunity now brother to show
00:48:07.900 everybody around you what it looks like to overcome and it would be very easy for you to sit back and
00:48:14.380 say well this happened to me and poor me and nobody would blame you like nobody would fucking blame you
00:48:22.060 and but you have to realize that you have an opportunity now to show everybody what it looks
00:48:29.340 like to overcome work through push through and continue doing what you were doing and you're going
00:48:36.860 to face some dark days bro i'm sure you're going to you've probably already been dealing with it you
00:48:40.780 know the suicidal thoughts and the the the fucking shit that comes with these things is
00:48:47.980 it's bad but it's new it's fresh and it's going to be bad for a little bit but brother i'm telling you
00:48:54.380 even if this would be a permanent thing for you you're going to go on to live a fucking amazing life
00:48:59.100 that inspires people and i think it's very important for you to keep that in mind yeah man i appreciate
00:49:05.260 that and i i feel very um motivated to to come back you know my kids saw me laying in the middle
00:49:12.460 of the road they all thought i was dead they were right behind me you know they didn't see the
00:49:17.100 accident but they were on their way to catch up with me and i know they were there and i was trying
00:49:21.900 to get up and i couldn't and i have to show them that i i can get up from this and i i think about it
00:49:28.540 every day yeah i plan on being that for whoever needs it you know i have never quit pat it on my
00:49:35.420 chest that's right you know and and i i i intend on never quitting on myself even though i i have
00:49:41.340 quit on myself in the past and and i put that on my chest not because i ain't a quitter it's because
00:49:46.300 i have the potential to quit and i have to look into me and remind myself that i can't quit that's
00:49:51.740 right brother we all have the potential to quit and we all we all feel that way everybody feels that
00:49:57.260 way um whether they're dealing with something like you're dealing or whether you're just dealing
00:50:01.660 with the stress of business it's it's it's just a hard it's a it's the hardest it's the hardest
00:50:08.540 way to make a living that you could ever choose for yourself and uh yeah shows one of the hardest
00:50:14.540 paths too because it's a niche service and it's yeah but maybe you're learning a lot about business
00:50:20.060 right now and maybe this isn't your main business down the road maybe oh man i feel like you you put
00:50:25.420 my mind on the right track and i feel like i have i have dialed this in my friend there you go we we
00:50:31.660 have set my my business up in a whole nother direction and i'm sad that i'm not there because
00:50:37.340 we were just getting into a whole new field of of coding the wheels and we have a demand out out the
00:50:44.140 fucking man it's it's it's just insane i i hope that you can look you know here's something funny
00:50:51.340 since 2019 2020 when i when i got recommended to you and bond i was sending you updates just for my
00:50:58.380 own mind i was sending you updates of every time i made a progressional step towards something in my
00:51:05.420 business i was like hey andy i i created my own product or hey andy i i got a new account that's
00:51:11.500 going to change our lives like i was sending you little just just for my own sake rather you ever seen
00:51:16.220 them or not you know it was yeah you you and i'm not trying to say you were like my main push you
00:51:23.100 know my family was my push you know i had my i had my babies that were my push but yeah you helped keep
00:51:28.460 my mind fortified man well brother you know that makes me happy to hear and i'm glad that you put in
00:51:35.340 that work ahead of this you know what i mean god has a weird way god has a weird way of testing us
00:51:41.180 and and i think that's what you're dealing with here you're dealing with a big test
00:51:43.900 yeah that is so i'm like how the is this what happened to me i fight i train i teach i help i do
00:51:52.060 so much with like i'm active you know like i love jujitsu i love muay thai i train all the time brother
00:51:59.580 you're going to get back my legs away hey brother you're going to get back to that that's going to
00:52:03.900 come back that's all going to come back bro i'm i'm staying optimistic man yeah well and especially
00:52:12.140 also bro remember we're entering an age of technology where they're able to do some
00:52:16.700 really fucking amazing shit so yeah it's you're lucky this didn't happen 20 years ago yeah yeah
00:52:24.860 so so what do you have a actual question or is this just you dealing with this you know my question was
00:52:31.980 how do i manage my team from a distance how do i take care of their concerns and their struggles and
00:52:40.220 they're because they're afraid to call me and then they're not as good as me i'm not saying i'm the
00:52:45.580 best in the world but no they need your leadership i i and i need to be there i'm i am the one you know
00:52:52.140 and this whole this whole i made this and i know i've messed up more ways than they'll ever know i tell
00:52:58.300 them all the time i fucked up more wheels than you'll ever fix yeah let me help you because i've done
00:53:05.900 made i didn't have anybody to help me i had to make the mistakes i had to eat the shit i've had
00:53:10.940 to be yelled at by managers kicked off lots i've been there done that and i don't need y'all going
00:53:16.540 through it because now y'all represent me let me be your guide and then these jokers are still
00:53:23.100 feeling like oh i'm getting better so let me try to do it without calling here look i'm gonna get there
00:53:29.260 and smack the shit out of you well because now they're fucking up okay let's let's put this in
00:53:34.300 a different context okay let's say that you this wasn't the situation all right you you weren't
00:53:42.620 forcefully removed from your business and let's say that you didn't have an ability to be on site
00:53:51.740 right now what would you do to manage the business remotely and by the way lots of people do this
00:53:59.260 and i'm going to say this to you because this is something that all leaders and founders struggle
00:54:04.620 with i actually think this has less to do with your accident and i think it's more to do with a growth
00:54:10.860 lesson of understanding that other people are capable and other people can be great at what you do
00:54:18.540 and sometimes when you're a founder of a business you've done so much of the shit that you think that
00:54:25.820 you're the only one that can do that and then what ends up happening is you end up
00:54:31.260 accidentally stunting the growth of your business because you're not leveraging the the skills
00:54:36.940 of the people around you because if you don't let them go out and do things then they never develop
00:54:43.100 right it's like a kid like if you protect your kid from everything how do they ever learn right and so
00:54:49.740 this is a leadership lesson uh that i would take advantage of for you and i would use this time
00:54:58.140 because dude i i believe that you're going to be back i just do i can hear your voice
00:55:04.380 use this time to cultivate your remote management skills and allow them to develop without you um
00:55:11.420 and and give them a little runway to to sort of develop because what will happen is they will
00:55:18.060 develop they will get better and then you'll have a better business because of it and it's hard to do
00:55:23.500 that it's hard to do that when you've been on the edge of losing your ass all the time because you're
00:55:29.180 like oh fuck if if we make this mistake it's going to screw up our whole business or if we do this it's
00:55:34.460 going to mess everything up and that's just not true um the truth of the matter is is that when employees
00:55:40.380 make mistakes as long as you own them and as long as you uh make it right they customers generally
00:55:48.060 are tolerable to that um right so so i would think about this less that like i can't be there because
00:55:54.940 i'm injured and they're going to fuck everything up and i would think about this as a leadership
00:55:59.740 opportunity for you to make your business a real business because and what i mean by that is
00:56:06.540 a real business isn't the founder doing everything and then the other people helping that's not that's
00:56:13.420 not a real business the real business is you're up in the fucking because we all have a role okay
00:56:19.340 and this is how i communicate my role to our team my role is we're all in a boat and we're all trying
00:56:26.540 to get somewhere together and right now there's five of you in the boat and so you got four people row
00:56:33.180 in the boat and your job is to go up in the bucket on the top of the mast and say okay guys we got to
00:56:38.540 go a little left or we got to go a little right and that's just as important of a role as the guys row
00:56:43.820 in the boat because if they row without that direction they're going to crash the boat into some
00:56:47.420 shit so all right so you know i i think you need a little bit of a perspective switch here to help you
00:56:53.900 get through this challenging time and understand like do you feel good about your three employees
00:56:59.100 well can i can i explain what i've been doing since i've been able out of icu yes sir
00:57:07.660 so since i've been out of icu i've been able to communicate and we've developed a weekly group
00:57:13.580 meeting on facetime every friday and we've been reviewing the schedule and reviewing trials and
00:57:18.380 tribulations but every day i've been talking to each of them individually for a good 15 to 25 minutes a
00:57:25.340 day and i think i've been helping them overcome their own you know personal limitations of me not
00:57:31.020 being there and encouraging them to to take control of their roles and and responsibility and accountability
00:57:38.060 because accountability was the biggest issue with with my with two people mainly and i think that me
00:57:44.620 being here they're they're having to kind of pull this this confidence that they didn't really have
00:57:51.340 or i think we're able to even see but now they're having no choice because i'm not there but i've
00:57:58.700 been able to to talk to them in another way and lead them and give them some serious pep talks telling
00:58:04.940 them to get out of their own way some of them just are in their way not not believing in themselves or
00:58:10.780 thinking things are going to go one way because a text message from a client or just the most you know
00:58:16.060 ridiculous stuff but i feel like i've been able to talk to them differently and then the fact that they
00:58:21.020 thought i died but i'm here it's like they don't want to bother me so now i'm forcing them to bother
00:58:26.860 me like i need them to because they don't know what they don't know and i don't want them to think that
00:58:32.140 they know things or they're that i can help them with right so yeah it's been it's starting to to change
00:58:40.380 and it's been getting to the point to where they're they're getting more accepting of me still being able
00:58:48.620 to help them and they don't have to do it on their own but the skill set's just not there for for
00:58:55.260 mainly my the guy that's taking over my painting i was the lead painter always trying to find someone
00:59:01.100 to paint but nobody really wanted to take the position because they were happy where they were
00:59:05.740 so now he's kind of you know trial by fire he only had a couple lessons with me and he is stepping up and
00:59:11.900 this dude i love him to death but he has a hard time with criticism and the other team is kind of
00:59:18.860 like putting pressure on him and he doesn't know how to handle it my wife is very stern my wife has
00:59:24.140 got one of them like fuck you attitudes and she's hard to deal with that's why me and her get along so
00:59:29.340 well but she don't get along so well with everybody and she's not necessarily a leader she's
00:59:34.300 there to get the job done and go and she sees other people fucking up she's going to call you out on
00:59:38.620 it that's why i need to be there to put the fires out well you got somebody that will hold the line
00:59:42.940 for you while you do the teaching yeah right you know dude when i went from um when i went from so
00:59:52.700 if you've been listening to mfceo you probably know that back in the early days um it took me a long
00:59:58.380 time to open up our second store because we didn't think anybody could operate it we thought they would
01:00:04.380 steal we thought they would fuck everything up and all those things did happen but yeah they don't
01:00:11.580 happen now because when i went from the two stores that we had to six stores and literally over the
01:00:20.540 course of 30 days because we uh we took over another business i couldn't i couldn't physically be
01:00:28.940 in the stores with everybody very similar to you all right now i wasn't you know hurt or sick or i
01:00:36.060 just couldn't be in seven six places at one time so i had to and to be honest what you're doing is
01:00:43.020 kind of what i did um i would meet with them once a week we met monday mornings at nine o'clock
01:00:49.980 and then throughout the week uh we had you know i had call i would call all the managers on a regular
01:00:56.940 basis talk to them work with them and then every monday they would bring their you know their
01:01:02.300 lessons and we would go through them and i taught them all in a group because you know if one guy has
01:01:08.220 to learn something then there's probably someone else that needs to learn it too and uh so the the
01:01:13.340 system that you've created is very similar to the system that i ran to scale out supplement super
01:01:19.100 stores and learn how to lead without actually doing the work and you know for you to grow that
01:01:26.460 business brother i actually think this is kind of a blessing as weird as this sounds for you
01:01:32.060 you're not the first person to tell me this yeah brother because listen you don't want to be the
01:01:36.460 guy painting the wheels forever you can't run a business that way yeah and and dude because you
01:01:43.660 care so much what would it actually take for you to stop painting the wheels if this hadn't have happened
01:01:48.940 right right right you would have been doing this for another 20 years because you're like
01:01:53.900 now i was trying to get away from it yeah trying to get my team to step up but now but now now you're
01:02:00.620 forced to you don't have an option you're not wrong yeah so this is a really good opportunity for you
01:02:08.140 to evolve your leadership skills which this remote leadership that that is a that is probably one of
01:02:15.820 the most valuable skills that you have to have in order to scale your business so you know i i i actually
01:02:24.700 you know as shitty as the circumstances are i think long term for your business this is going to be
01:02:29.500 really good for you i can see that yeah 100 man garrett dude we appreciate you bro hold on do you what else
01:02:40.220 is what else is going on is that is that pretty much the issue that you're dealing with yeah you
01:02:46.140 know it was i had a lot of team issues and i don't have a big team so i was feeling like it was me not
01:02:52.140 my team and i was trying to take accountability for everything and then i started to feel like i was taking
01:02:58.140 responsibility for too much of their of their flaws and now that this happened i feel you know all of
01:03:04.540 them have come to me individually and expressed to me that they wish i would have they wish they
01:03:09.500 would have taken me up on all the opportunities that i've given them to learn more and build their
01:03:15.020 skill sets because i've constantly want literally to build my skill sets like i became a tig welder it
01:03:20.780 took me three years of practice because i'm a slow learner but in order for me to become a tig welder
01:03:26.380 i bought i had to buy the equipment i found a welder i offered him jujitsu lessons and he gave
01:03:32.300 me welding lessons that's awesome it took me three damn years to get good at it before i can even
01:03:37.340 touch a customer's wheel so i didn't make money right away right i'm trying to explain to these
01:03:41.660 guys it's not about making money right away it's about learning the skills to make money in the
01:03:46.220 future you're building value into yourself that's right i want to build value into you man that it's
01:03:51.020 not that i want you to stay below me i want you to come above me brother i want that's right up to
01:03:55.980 where we can we can rise and they're like this is your business you have you and i'm like no man
01:04:01.980 this is our business that's right this is going to be what brings our families to that next level
01:04:06.780 but i need you just as much as you need me right now and that was my struggle and and it took me
01:04:12.460 almost dying for them to realize that it's like no no no no no no no no i don't know no no no it
01:04:19.820 took you almost dying for you to realize that
01:04:28.300 i just don't know well i do you're in a good spot bro you're listen aside from the physical things
01:04:35.420 that you're dealing with and the mental things you're dealing with i think this is going to be
01:04:38.460 great for your business and i think as long as you here's the thing you and you're already doing
01:04:45.420 this but to anybody else listening this is very important you don't want to give your team the
01:04:50.140 idea that this is going away all right um you know garrett's not throwing a white flag up and saying
01:04:57.100 hey our business plans are not happening in fact i've had a lot of time to think about this and we're
01:05:02.140 actually going to expand and do this and this and this we are okay there you go so you're dude i think
01:05:08.940 you're in a really good spot i think this call is just confirmation of what you already know and um
01:05:15.180 i i really think you i think you're already doing all the correct things and had you not called in
01:05:20.620 here you would have figured this out on your own anyway um so so bro i you know this just comes down
01:05:28.860 to what you're already doing and just keep doing it yes sir and i'm going to continue to do everything
01:05:35.740 i can and we're getting into powder coating and it's one of the most demanded services that my
01:05:41.100 market lacks and we just got the powder coating booth built and unfortunately then i get into this
01:05:47.100 accident but we were in the motion you know the the ball was rolling yeah it's still rolling take a
01:05:52.140 little bit of a pause just to get me back to the shop and and to get the you know people in the right
01:05:58.140 seats and it's it's gonna have we just we just got the paperwork signed on a house you know we've been
01:06:04.700 living in a camper since 2019 to build this business with my family i got three kids
01:06:10.220 and it was like a step down of what we were used to and you know it's been a challenge my wife is a
01:06:16.860 really really conservative person she doesn't like to spend money so she got real comfortable we were
01:06:22.380 supposed to live in the camper for only two years three years max we've been there for six so it's like
01:06:28.700 i can't go back to a camper babe she's like oh well our plans were to to save up more and do more and
01:06:36.300 now it's like well we got to make a move and you guys want to hear something absolutely insane
01:06:40.860 she finds a house on garrett street off of the street where i got in my accident oh wow the house
01:06:47.900 was set up by a health caretaker an in-home health caretaker that took care of people at her home she
01:06:55.180 completely modified both of her bathrooms to be handicap accessible to like the furthest degree
01:07:00.780 and we just signed the paperwork on it today i signed it through the email i didn't get to go
01:07:04.540 look at it but i signed the paperwork and then the seller just accepted it and signed their end and
01:07:08.380 now the ball is rolling so when i get out of this place i'm going to be rolling my ass and do a new
01:07:12.540 house yeah that's awesome and by the way in a few you know in a short amount of time you'll be
01:07:18.060 remodeling that kitchen in that bathroom and doing those things because it's going to be too low for
01:07:22.860 you and you're going to be annoyed with it so right it was mainly just the bathroom yeah the kitchen's
01:07:28.540 beautiful it was remodeled to fit her not the people she was caring for yeah but the bathroom
01:07:34.140 that's insane because i would have never guessed that in it you know the universe is with me
01:07:40.540 giving me a house on garrett street for with a handicap home you know i don't listen as weird as it
01:07:46.140 sounds i think this was supposed to happen bro i think you're going to look i think i think you're
01:07:51.820 going to look hard to digest andy you know i fuck i know bro i know it's you know this is not the same
01:07:58.380 thing but when i got stabbed in the face and my face was all fucked up and swollen like it took me
01:08:04.540 quite a long time for me to understand that this was going to be a good thing not a bad thing and i
01:08:10.460 know that lady in the grocery store changed your whole perspective bro instantly instantly and uh
01:08:16.540 that's going to happen for you too you need my lady in the grocery store that's what i need you
01:08:21.500 listen you're gonna you're gonna figure it out dude a hundred percent it's fresh bro it's fresh
01:08:27.260 right now that happened two weeks ago three weeks ago even a month yeah so the fact that you're alive
01:08:33.180 and the fact that you're out and you're already thinking about this shit bro most people wouldn't do
01:08:37.740 that it's it's yeah my community keeps telling me like 90 of people would have been broken and i'm the
01:08:43.980 you don't i'm the i'm the anatomy i'm i'm the one i'm the statistic that's showing the
01:08:49.900 that i'm nothing but success driven you know and and i i hear these words from all these people behind
01:08:55.740 me and you know it makes me tear up because you don't really know who's got your back and and
01:09:00.860 a situation like this comes and i had so many people come into the hospital damn nurses thought i was a
01:09:06.140 celebrity i said what i did for a living you know what i told the nurse i did for a living
01:09:10.140 told her i give rim jobs the best around they didn't know how to handle that my mom had to go
01:09:16.940 in there and be like boy you better stop well it is true yeah you do
01:09:24.060 i give the best rim jobs around and i've seen you plenty i know you get a lot of stuff sent to you
01:09:28.940 and i've heard you say you got a pallet of stuff in the in the in your in your warehouse and you let
01:09:33.820 the guys kind of have it i've sent you some a bunch of my rim job stickers and a hat and a shirt and
01:09:40.300 i sent you my products when i first made it because the only reason i made that product
01:09:44.220 is because of you and that's just legit i have a clean shine protect dress for your wheels and i do
01:09:50.140 a system and every time a customer comes and leaves my shop with the wheel repair they get a lifetime
01:09:55.660 warranty and they get every two uh pretty much every six months they get a free cleaning on their wheels
01:10:02.060 they come back to my shop and i clean shine protect and i dress you know and i not even just
01:10:06.940 the one wheel i did i do all four wheels so the customer continuously leaves my shop with value
01:10:12.620 but then again they continuously come to me and i can always reevaluate and i can let them know if
01:10:18.300 they need any other services done and you know i keep the relationship strong and a lot of those were
01:10:23.420 were you know installed in my in my process through listening to you as you developed your stuff and
01:10:29.660 you know obviously 2012 is when you started your mf ceo but i picked it up in 2019 and it it was a it
01:10:37.100 was a game changer for me man well brother i mean you the most important thing about what you just
01:10:41.900 messages what you just mentioned was the story that they tell after they leave there right yeah i got i
01:10:47.900 got 571 five-star google reviews i'm like the smallest company in our market there you go bro you're
01:10:55.500 fucking doing it dude and this ain't going to stop you from doing it at all at all no nothing can stop
01:11:01.500 me i have never quit tatted on me so when i feel like quitting i know i can't so that's just the way it
01:11:06.300 is i can't quit this is not i'm not allowed nope you are you know can i say one more thing i know
01:11:12.300 y'all got to wrap this up but i just got to say one more thing to andy because you at you had a
01:11:17.740 question a couple years back and um it was about the loss of a loved one and how to deal with it and
01:11:23.180 your response was that you couldn't answer him and you couldn't give him a response because you've
01:11:29.660 never dealt with that but um in 2019 my father passed away and i was really hard listening to your
01:11:36.940 show and you know obviously i was listening to the older stuff and i wasn't caught up yet but
01:11:41.100 you know your personal excellence is the ultimate rebellion and aggressive patience and all those
01:11:47.660 all those factors is what kept my mind from from losing reality losing grip with reality you know
01:11:55.580 that's a little hard to talk about um but when my dad died i i started kind of losing it but i had
01:12:01.580 just got my business rolling again in florida and i'm an mma fighter like i said but i took a fight
01:12:08.220 immediately as soon as he passed and i fought one of the toughest dudes coming out man and i beat him
01:12:14.060 and i took him to a decision but i beat him and it was one of the most overwhelming like accomplished
01:12:21.580 moments of my life and and you you gave me the perspective to keep pushing through that just by
01:12:27.740 living through the personal excellence and not allowing myself to be taken over by emotion so i needed
01:12:34.700 you to know that i even sent you a video explaining this back in 21 or whenever that question was
01:12:39.580 asked because you said you didn't have the answer man you had the answer brother you you you
01:12:45.180 fucking you had it bro well i appreciate that brother you know i've actually um you know alex
01:12:51.900 ramosi is one of my really good friends and him and i were talking about this his his mother
01:12:56.140 recently passed away and uh you know your dad your dad would not want you to sit around and feel sorry
01:13:05.020 for yourself your dad yeah right so like when we think about you know my my answer would be different
01:13:11.420 probably now in that you know i know for me if something were to happen to me i certainly wouldn't
01:13:18.060 want all of my family and my friends and everybody to you know feel bad i would want them to go live their
01:13:25.820 lives and do good things and and and become the best that they they could be in that honor you
01:13:31.980 know what i mean and um so my perspective's changed a little bit on that and i appreciate
01:13:37.980 you pointing that out dude it really it means a lot to me um and ultimately you know we're all
01:13:44.140 going to deal with those things and we're all going to we're all going to have hard times and
01:13:47.900 you know when people when people leave us um i i don't think anybody that leaves this world wants
01:13:56.300 the people that love them to feel bad about it i really don't um so there's that too you know yeah
01:14:04.300 100 i carry the legacy of my father everywhere i go yeah that's the best thing you could ever
01:14:09.260 fucking do you want to know something i'm at the same rehab facility he was at after his surgery and he
01:14:13.660 lived to he lived quite a few years longer than they expected him to live and i'm at the same
01:14:18.380 place that got him walking yeah after his surgery and i'm i'm i'm i'm gonna be walking man i fucking
01:14:24.620 know it i know it all right thank you all for your time yeah brother any time bro um stay strong dude
01:14:32.540 you got this you know your business i think you're in a really good spot uh just keep doing what you're
01:14:38.060 doing and it's going to evolve and it's going to work and that's absolute wheel repair in an orange
01:14:43.500 city florida guys yeah that's it's awr wheels on instagram all right i i do everything i can for
01:14:50.540 that that business is is so much a part of me it's ridiculous and like you said i gotta get away and let
01:14:56.860 it do its own thing i gotta watch it tick like a clock and not be super saturated in it and i've been
01:15:02.380 ultra consumed by it and now i got pulled away so now i have an opportunity and i'm going to take
01:15:07.820 advantage of this opportunity and continue to build from a distance and and i and i'm confident that
01:15:13.660 i will i know you will i'm confident in too so love it bro yeah we appreciate your time bro yeah
01:15:20.780 man i appreciate y'all more than you know thank you for the extra you're welcome brother all right y'all
01:15:26.060 have a great day all right you too that's awesome he seems like a cool dude man i like to shake his
01:15:32.220 thing hey man uh you know these it's forcing him to evolve and that's that's the thing you know uh
01:15:42.940 most people would sit around and say oh my life is over and now i'm stuck in this chair and you know
01:15:48.700 i can't do anything and dude that's just not the truth you know um does it suck well it's definitely not
01:15:55.500 ideal right right right right i mean talking to him i mean let's be real dude i there's no
01:16:02.140 fucking way garrett's getting away from the wheel business without being forced to yeah it's not
01:16:06.300 happening which is ultimately going to stunt his ability to lead so it's he's being forced to go from
01:16:12.300 working in the business to working on the business which is what every founder eventually
01:16:16.460 has to do to scale so um outside of the physicality that he's dealing with you know it's it's actually
01:16:22.940 a really ideal situation for his business yeah dude dude i love it man yeah well guys andy that
01:16:28.140 was three yeah all right guys we will see you tomorrow on cti
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