REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 99. Becoming Unstoppable Ft. Tia-Clair Toomey

00:00:00.000 told my teacher dumb bitch i'm gonna get millions watch this in the project living

00:00:04.680 spoke it till existence mo changed to 50 got mo cost than did i only weigh 180 but my watch

00:00:11.720 cost 250 what's up guys it's andy priscilla and this is the show for the realist take about it

00:00:16.860 lies the fitness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys today

00:00:22.480 as always we have an awesome show um full-length show today minus dj and vaughn but we do have

00:00:29.980 a very special guest which we'll intro in just a second uh before we get started i wanted to say

00:00:36.040 uh thank you guys so much for all the shares uh thank you for getting the word out about the show

00:00:41.140 we've been doing very well um especially through the pandemic and all this shit that we've been

00:00:48.080 dealing with um and i know half of you are here to listen to how to fucking dominate and then half of

00:00:55.500 you are here to listen to um what's going on in the world so half of you are probably gonna be

00:01:02.680 disappointed let's just say that all right uh we have i don't i can't think of a name for you right

00:01:10.440 now what do we call you the champ no not the champ oh me that would be a lie oh you can't fucking lie

00:01:17.480 to me well i mean i'm definitely the best looking guy in the studio so i could be most handsome i don't

00:01:21.700 know that you know what i'll let you have that and i i could i could talk better than you

00:01:26.740 listen i compliment your voice i i asked i asked joe i said joe i need like a bass amplifier bro

00:01:34.420 if i'm gonna if i'm gonna bring the heat i need a little bass bro you gotta bring it from here

00:01:38.320 i don't have it from there in that right joe down here i bring it from lower oh you do that's why

00:01:43.900 you don't have any bass so tell us about the show today sal i don't think i don't know that

00:01:50.600 half of us will be disappointed i think the uh the people who want to know the the ins of the

00:01:55.220 outs of the political scheme will likely have a lot to learn today that i believe yeah you know what

00:02:00.180 and mindset i was kind of just talking shit no we never disappoint anybody i think this is a great

00:02:04.940 opportunity this is our this is our first athlete that we've had on the show yeah it's our first

00:02:08.680 outside guest from the standpoint of of a first form athlete yeah somebody who i have followed for

00:02:16.460 a long time somebody who i think is a a great advocate not only of our brand but i think of

00:02:21.960 society in general uh she is the four-time reigning crossfit games champ she is an olympic gold medalist

00:02:27.980 or excuse me a gold medalist but a 2016 olympian um she's not from the u.s she's from the beautiful

00:02:37.360 from down under she's from the beautiful country of australia and i am proud to announce that we

00:02:44.540 have tia claire in studio so tia welcome thank you guys tia claire i'm not even gonna be able to walk

00:02:49.360 out this door my head's like huge well it could be i mean listen i i think you learned that right

00:02:55.600 argue with no yeah i think um no and tia it's very special that you're here today uh from for a

00:03:02.680 multitude of reasons one you know it's a i think back to following you in your early journey of of

00:03:09.160 watching you on tv and to have you in studio it's really a cool surreal moment and to call you a

00:03:13.960 friend is a is another surreal moment in that regard but um you know today i think i'd really or we would

00:03:20.540 really like to unpack kind of a little bit of your story um because you know for those who you know

00:03:25.960 who are in the business aspect of our podcast here i think the framework that we've learned whether

00:03:32.080 it's through sport or through business the framework of winning and being successful and being a high

00:03:36.980 operator all come with the same core values and it's cool to watch or listen to different people's

00:03:42.360 stories and unpack them and kind of say like hey how are you raised where you're from what do you do

00:03:48.100 what do you believe in and hopefully today we can kind of unpack one of those or a few of those

00:03:52.500 but to get started is a look is it can you give us a little introduction about yourself where you're

00:03:56.920 from well where do i start um but basically yeah i'm i'm from australia i grew up on the coast on a

00:04:04.960 sugarcane farm and um basically mom and dad raised me to make sure that i worked hard and nothing was

00:04:14.240 given to me i had to earn it i i think you tell a story about growing up on a farm and your dad

00:04:19.820 what what was the impact that your dad had on your work ethic specifically like your ability to compete

00:04:26.800 or your mindset and competing like what was what was his influence on your life and how does it play

00:04:31.560 out now when i look back at my upbringing i guess um and this is only something that i've probably come

00:04:39.840 to realize in the recent years through my competition stage um but dad wasn't so much worried about the

00:04:48.860 result more about the process and also you know what it took to actually get there and for him

00:04:55.060 you know he's him and mom you know they they both equally um played a played a role there but they

00:05:02.280 were very adamant that there was never any handouts and if there was something that you wanted to go out

00:05:09.560 and and get you had to be the one that that went and did it and you know you may get support here and

00:05:15.560 there but you'll get more people trying to bring you down you know tell you you can't do it and you just

00:05:22.920 have to be strong and and strong-minded particularly and just you know tell them to all go fuck themselves

00:05:30.300 and just get after it that's all right listen man that's a major issue in society right now

00:05:36.460 people are uncomfortable telling people to fuck off yeah like dude if half of your motherfuckers

00:05:42.620 just told people to fuck off you'd be a lot happier i'm just being real well i mean and that's i think

00:05:47.640 that's where a lot of people's dreams die yeah you know they die inside somebody else's comment to

00:05:52.520 you that you you become somebody that you don't even know probably that's right like some fucking

00:05:56.560 dude on the fucking internet they they won't even put their name or their face or their this or their

00:06:01.500 that and they say oh uh you're an idiot for trying to do that you'll never do that and people quit i'm

00:06:07.520 just like why what dude have we thought about what this is going on you don't that you don't even know

00:06:13.720 that's a real person like and the truth is is if you get talked out of your shit that easily you

00:06:20.000 don't got it anyway that's the truth well and your husband shane we were talking about this yesterday

00:06:24.860 a little bit you know we're if if they're not in front of me and in regards to life like if i

00:06:29.520 wouldn't take i don't take financial advice from somebody behind me or i don't take a life advice

00:06:32.840 from somebody behind me and it's it's it's sad to think that we live in a world that we're so subjective

00:06:37.260 to all of this negativity from people from it could be a kid yeah you know i mean you could take that

00:06:41.720 comment from a 14 year old kid who has he doesn't have a fucking clue yeah the next thing these dudes

00:06:46.060 are sitting there with their heads in their hands like look i don't know if i got it dude that kid's

00:06:50.680 dunking oreos in his fucking milk in his mom's basement and you're you're worried like i don't know man

00:06:58.840 it's interesting because i know for one thing you know so many people will always well in my journey i

00:07:06.380 i definitely experienced a lot of people saying that i didn't have what it takes you know um i i was

00:07:12.060 from the bush i didn't have the incredible facilities you know i had to run around barefoot

00:07:18.620 sometimes because i didn't have the shoes you know and having that doubt and those people you know

00:07:24.700 giving credit to everyone else uh mom and dad helped me understand like that's the motivation you

00:07:30.620 got to use to go and show them just how wrong they are and you know some people may look at that and

00:07:36.080 be like oh that's a wrong motivation but i tell you what it's so motivating there's nothing more

00:07:41.240 satisfying to then to prove others wrong dude i agree and and i will i've interviewed some of the top

00:07:48.100 performers in different areas because i'm super interested in the process as well the thing you

00:07:53.540 mentioned there about uh your dad like being concerned about the process that's to me that's the most

00:08:00.460 interesting thing when i talk to high achievers i listen you can argue all you want i've interviewed

00:08:06.320 enough highly successful people to can tell you for sure no matter what they say online because like

00:08:12.700 a lot of these dudes are say oh just what you just said they'll say oh that's the wrong reason

00:08:17.240 but you get them alone and you start talking you get a couple drinks in them and you ask them

00:08:20.920 you get them what really motivates them yeah it's always that it's always that it's always that

00:08:25.840 and like people people feel like it's like a shameful thing to admit yeah like oh dude you know

00:08:31.660 you shouldn't care about what suzy said and fucking said motherfucker fuck suzy you know that's how i

00:08:37.860 feel dude like i i'm still trying to like shove it down everybody's fucking throat oh you know i love

00:08:43.780 it i don't know what this is my this is my attraction the first time to tia in the sense and

00:08:48.700 and i'm not an avid crossfitter and i'm not you know my you know like i understand enough about

00:08:52.860 the sport where i was watching it one time and uh i think you were doing a clean and i've shared it

00:08:58.280 like 10 times on my social feed over the last you know probably four or five years and it's it's you

00:09:04.880 after you hit a clean successfully and it was your fuck yeah fist pump that you can see that emotion

00:09:10.920 that's dug down inside of somebody when that celebration hits the fuck you factor that comes

00:09:16.520 outside of that like that to me is like one of the most attractive badass qualities in somebody

00:09:21.340 because it's all the years of work yeah and sweat and dedication to the process that comes out in

00:09:26.760 one single emotion and it's after a lift like that so literally this is before i knew you right and

00:09:32.340 you know fanboying a little bit here in a sense but it's like before i knew you is this gonna get to

00:09:36.280 where like you you like how you fanboyed alex rodriguez that one time no no no we're not gonna go to

00:09:42.100 that level no let me finish this is a great story too this mother fucking corded off his fucking chair

00:09:49.460 in his office for two weeks that a rod said i mean it wasn't it was a rod i mean i had a i had a i had

00:09:55.980 a couch in my office and it was a two seat two banger a two seater and we were it was after summer

00:10:01.220 smash did i sit in that when you yeah you sat in that chair as well yes yeah i think it's a special

00:10:06.420 chair but so sal grill playing baseball right so a rod is like dude i mean he's yeah dude so a rod

00:10:15.040 came in and he's a fucking normal dude like he's just like everybody else makes a drink sits it in

00:10:20.880 the chair fucking sal left his half fucking drink drink in his fucking tear cup holder for two weeks

00:10:26.180 two weeks we red roped it off but here's the best part so i'm you know like we just put on summer smash

00:10:32.080 and i don't know was that nelly's year or whatever yeah yeah no i think it was the year before that

00:10:37.220 anyway yeah i'm sitting outside and my wife comes up to me and i'm drinking and it's like everybody's

00:10:42.000 gone and you know you put that event on it's a very high stress because a lot of fucking moving

00:10:44.880 pieces you have a couple thousand people everything's moving and i'm and i'm just literally behind the bar

00:10:49.560 i have this big ass hat on nobody know like everybody's leaving and i'm just sitting there and

00:10:53.200 i'm getting drunk by myself and raquel comes up and she goes uh andrew told me to come get you

00:10:58.200 a rod's in your office and i remember looking at her you're trying to figure out who the fuck a

00:11:02.480 rod yeah i'm like fuck do you mean a rod no fucking era yeah like who calls himself a rod you know

00:11:08.880 like in my brain and sure as shit i walk in and there's this motherfucker sitting in my office i'm

00:11:13.240 like holy shit a rod's in my office and i was you know half cocked at the time here he is drinking

00:11:19.020 you know and he gets on the fucking phone he's facetiming j-lo and he's showing her off she's getting

00:11:23.520 her hair blown out i'm like what the fuck is going on here so but my point being is so the point is

00:11:30.020 he's probably never gonna he's gonna rope off that chair now yeah yeah i'm gonna have you sign it

00:11:33.820 we'll put in my office i appreciate it no but i remember that because i have such appreciation for

00:11:39.100 the competitive side of life you know and that re that response that emotional response you can't

00:11:43.860 fake that that's not like a post or you know that's a that's an actual emotion that's packed up

00:11:49.540 years and years of work sacrifice dedication and that fuck you feeling you get that you can actually

00:11:59.680 just serve that shit sandwich right back to somebody even though you know you you know that's

00:12:03.200 a tactful way to distribute it from a competitor to another competitor like to see that emotion is

00:12:08.240 awesome like to me that's fucking awesome i agree yeah i definitely have like you as you're

00:12:14.660 competing you go through so many emotions and i love tapping into my anger because you know it is

00:12:20.480 like a big middle finger to everyone that is like you know uh ever questioned my ability has ever doubted

00:12:26.740 me has ever told me you know i wasn't good enough whoever tried to spin stories of who they thought i was

00:12:33.260 without actually getting to know me and it was just you know every single time i take that

00:12:38.720 competition floor it it is there's a combination of my wires out there you know for my family for my

00:12:45.960 friends for myself for my sponsors but there's also that underlining like for those fuckers out

00:12:53.040 there that said i couldn't do it dude and by underlining you mean 51 percent yeah man dude and they all

00:12:59.460 know who they are yeah i'm talking to you right now yeah dude i did it i love that shit man like there's

00:13:05.500 nothing better than than than stepping on somebody's fucking throat with a smile on your face oh it's

00:13:10.200 the best and dude i'll people will say oh well oh you know that's not right dude look man competing at

00:13:18.820 a high level is really fucking hard that means you have to contribute and develop places of motivation

00:13:24.780 that the regular human probably never has to deal with it's also a way to um

00:13:31.040 expunge the anger you know what i'm saying well you know like it's no there's no point on holding

00:13:38.260 this anger and and being a horrible person to to good people you know and like what you you're

00:13:44.200 gonna tell me that like everyone in the world that people out in the world that they don't hate

00:13:50.820 someone yeah everyone has has something over someone else that they're just like oh yeah like yeah how

00:13:59.060 could you do that yeah you know and dude i think someone i get people all the time who are like

00:14:03.640 they're saying well nobody believes in me no everybody says i'm stupid nobody says i'm like

00:14:09.660 dude good motherfucker remember all that shit right the fuck down and get to work like you don't realize

00:14:15.560 how big of a blessing that is and because people now like to be the moral police and tell you how the

00:14:22.380 fuck you should be motivated or not you know some people they feel like they're doing something wrong

00:14:27.580 by tapping into that when in reality dude i almost feel like if you're if you're not able to tap into

00:14:33.980 that shit's gonna eat you up you know because dude it does hurt right like when you say the the stories

00:14:39.580 people make up without i ever have dude i can relate to that like i have so many people that have

00:14:43.720 preconceived fucking bullshit stories about who they think i am because i do i curse or i say something

00:14:51.880 or i'm aggressive on the podcast or this or that and they build this whole story and i hear and then i see

00:14:57.220 it and i'm like that that is nothing like me but fuck you for thinking it you know let me take that

00:15:03.880 note yeah right yeah i'll put that in my bank that's cool yeah i think there's an important aspect here

00:15:09.400 because um you know going back in some of your childhood you didn't start crossfitting until you

00:15:14.700 were 20 well yeah i think i was like yeah 20 19 20 i was getting into it and then like i didn't do

00:15:23.840 crossfit because i wanted to be an athlete like i actually wanted to do it just to help my fitness

00:15:28.880 for my track and i knew that like a part of me knew that okay my track days were over however i needed

00:15:38.640 something that was going to stimulate me compared to what i was doing which was going to study at like

00:15:43.840 and going college essentially um and i wasn't feeling that fulfillment so i was actually down in

00:15:49.680 the dumps and i wasn't the person that i wanted to be i wasn't the person my parents brought me up to

00:15:55.180 be i wasn't the person that you know shane deserved and realizing that i knew that there was something

00:16:01.700 missing so like i needed to like do something to change right and so when shane actually introduced

00:16:08.480 crossfit into my life i was like okay well i'll use this platform to help me advance into this platform

00:16:15.060 and then before i knew it that just went a complete 180 and i just like fell in love with it because

00:16:22.520 there's just an addiction that comes with it because there's just so many challenges every single day

00:16:28.020 it's something different you know one day you're learning how to snatch the next day you're learning

00:16:32.160 how to do muscle-ups you're like what on earth like how where did i like how did i even get here like

00:16:38.000 i never thought that i wanted to you know learn a muscle-up or whatever so there were tiny little

00:16:42.740 challenges that you know satisfied you each day not only were you improving your health but you're

00:16:48.400 also constantly evolving as an individual as well and you're facing adversity and and you know

00:16:55.400 battling those challenges i got news for you though it takes for most people takes longer than a day to

00:16:59.660 learn the muscle yeah i mean just i'm very freaking determined when i want to be again comes back to

00:17:06.380 those people telling me i couldn't do it and i was like well i'm just going to show you because you

00:17:10.080 have no idea who i am the uh days so you're going to your first crossfit competition

00:17:15.060 yeah it's in australia it's in in australia i didn't want to come last and and this brings me to

00:17:21.420 i didn't know it at the time and um i i don't think it was not like i don't i definitely don't blame my

00:17:30.600 parents for you know not um educating me on this because i think i just did i was just too young i just

00:17:37.520 didn't know but um when i competed back in the day i i competed because i loved the journey and i i just

00:17:47.480 loved being a part of something and it wasn't until i felt true failure that i actually wanted to win

00:17:55.120 and um and that came you know after two or three years of experiencing but that first competition that

00:18:01.940 i ever went in i i won it and so um you know one thing led to another before i knew it i was at the

00:18:08.720 crossfit games and the crossfit games is like the pinnacle of all the crossfit athletes goals and i

00:18:15.000 came second i was like oh shit like that's not meant to happen like how did that even happen maybe

00:18:19.860 maybe the uh the other competitors got heat stroke and that's why i came second so like coming

00:18:25.540 second again the following year it was like a huge kick in the guts and that's when i realized like

00:18:32.320 oh no no like i'm not here just to participate like i don't just go to the gym every single day to

00:18:38.980 you know put in my absolute best to just come second or essentially the first loser and so from that

00:18:46.080 day on i realized like i'm actually doing it for a purpose and my purpose is yeah to do my absolute

00:18:52.320 best but i know my best is to win and be the best on the planet and so ever since then i've won

00:18:59.020 everything do you think that you getting second that first time is what it was almost like a

00:19:06.300 validation thing where it made you believe in yourself like wait a minute because like you said

00:19:10.460 well maybe i only got second because these dudes got heat stroke yeah like and then you're like wait a

00:19:15.700 minute i'm far better at this than what i really think i am absolutely yeah i i definitely think that um

00:19:21.640 you know coming second so like you first go to the crossfit games and you know media and the hype

00:19:28.000 they put on like they're they're not human you know they're these super humans that can do so much

00:19:34.860 and so i'm standing on the line with them you know they're very much bigger than me taller than me

00:19:39.840 wider than i am and i'm like oh shit like it didn't take me long to get here i don't know if i'm

00:19:46.120 meant to be here yeah and so just like getting to there was like a huge win you know and then coming

00:19:52.940 second was like whoa like shane look what we just did yeah and it actually reiterated to me uh that

00:20:01.280 you can't put limitations on yourself you know like yes you want to like um set your goals and and you

00:20:07.640 want to have things to strive for but you also want to be very open-minded because things change on a

00:20:13.180 daily basis and because of that like you know what happens one day where something happens and

00:20:20.700 it completely skyrockets you further than what you even expected but if you're closed-minded and not

00:20:26.240 willing to take that jump or that leap then well you're only going to stay back there and right

00:20:30.880 where you're at be just stay consistent and complacent so yeah like it definitely gave me that

00:20:37.100 confidence went back in the gym the next day and like started training what year is that now

00:20:42.400 you're training to win though well yeah uh so this is this is where it was interesting i i i did want

00:20:49.480 to win but i i think i said i wanted to win but didn't truly understand the true meaning of winning

00:20:57.000 um this is where it gets so so 2015 i came second and surprised myself right so then 2016

00:21:05.640 obviously i wanted to to do better which was win but there was something deep down that was holding

00:21:13.420 me back or i just didn't fully realize and i'm honestly ashamed to admit it because you know why

00:21:21.180 why did i feel like that in you know 2016 why didn't i have the confidence in my own abilities and

00:21:27.680 why why didn't i just absolutely go out after it it was like i was holding myself back dude i i i can

00:21:33.980 relate to that a million percent even in business like it took me a long time i would say even in

00:21:39.600 the last two years is probably when it happened for me where i'm like wait we're here but i've

00:21:48.620 totally undersold myself we should be fucking there right and i i can relate to that a million percent

00:21:54.880 yeah and then once you figure it once that kicks in you're like wait a minute i've been

00:21:58.520 i've been fucking half-assing like i remember the so it was sunday morning in 2016 it was my second

00:22:06.580 year at the crossfit games i was i don't know where i was placed but shane was driving me to the venue

00:22:12.220 and shane's like you can win this and i was like yeah i know and in my head i was like but you know

00:22:20.460 does he know that it's it's just not that easy like winning the world championships at you know on a

00:22:26.400 world stage is that's that's on another level and it was like i was literally holding myself back

00:22:32.500 with ropes and like i it fires me up so much because it's like i just gave it away and like i had it

00:22:41.700 there i could have won but i didn't and it it wasn't until i literally came second and i felt that

00:22:50.620 disappointment that sheer embarrassment in front of a stadium full of people

00:22:57.060 the people my love like shane my family my friends i let them all down like i didn't fight

00:23:04.420 hard enough for them if i couldn't fight for me why didn't i fight for them and all these emotions

00:23:09.480 were going through my mind and it was that moment that i was like fuck this fuck everyone else and i'm

00:23:15.120 just fucking going for it and as much as it infuriates me that i went through that and i i took

00:23:22.440 you know the people that i care about the most through that shit i probably wouldn't be sitting

00:23:28.340 here today if that never happened no doubt no doubt it just fires me up you have to have that

00:23:33.600 you have to have that you have to get your face smashed in yeah figuratively or literally for you to

00:23:40.560 realize yeah what you're leaving on the table absolutely and and you know you guys out there

00:23:45.260 listening when you hear her speak you know and what she's talking about you know this is the best

00:23:51.560 in the world that you're hearing from this getting smashed in the fucking mouth is a good thing and it's

00:23:58.400 part of the process for everyone it's a great thing like dude it's just when you let it you know

00:24:04.240 become something that it isn't because really all it is dude is it's a check it says okay dude

00:24:10.420 you didn't work hard enough you didn't do this you left this because i'm i

00:24:14.360 and most people can't there's a stigma around losing that i think is counterproductive to people's

00:24:24.520 development you know they think most people believe that when they lose it's it's it's over

00:24:32.160 i lost or i failed or i i've my business failed or my this or that and they never get back the back up

00:24:38.920 so that they can learn put the lesson that they used back into practice so if you learn a lesson

00:24:46.740 and then you don't get back on the train and learn how to not repeat that same mistake

00:24:51.720 you you you expanded your potential by learning the lesson but then you never capitalized on it

00:24:59.400 because you you you you were too afraid or too embarrassed or too uh you know a million different

00:25:07.100 things i would say usually it's your ego though because you look at i mean that that loss should

00:25:10.200 be one of those fuck you chips no different than somebody else giving you a fuck you chip you kind

00:25:14.040 of give yourself a fuck you chip yeah and i think you bring a great point you know because a lot of

00:25:17.520 entrepreneurs that listen to the show like you're kind of in the game by yourself so yeah and you

00:25:21.780 know you think about like crossfit it's a it's a solo sport but not really right because you drag

00:25:26.740 and just like an entrepreneur you know you're dragging your family through this you're dragging

00:25:32.020 your wife or husband or kids and even somebody even deeper than an entrepreneur somebody who's

00:25:37.360 really loves or passionate about their career like this is why you i think you know you have to learn

00:25:43.160 that you only get one life you get this one fucking shot and you got to go after and attack every

00:25:47.740 single day if you can't do it for you do it for them like if you can't dig a little deeper for

00:25:51.780 yourself like you're gonna have to dig deeper for your wife or your husband or your kids

00:25:55.260 and i think this is actually a great parlay into your story in regards to going to the commonwealth

00:26:02.720 games and going to uh the 2016 olympics because from your first win at your box off or whatever the

00:26:11.640 competition was that you to your first cross the games how long was that what was the time

00:26:15.700 transfer transfer uh like eight months eight months how long from that to your first gold medal

00:26:22.560 two years two years but wasn't it something like your first ever olympic weightlifting event

00:26:29.700 so it took like uh about 15 months for me to make the olympics um for for weightlifting and you know

00:26:37.540 that was i'd never done weightlifting i didn't know what a snatch was called i didn't i didn't even know

00:26:41.840 what a clean and jerk was called but i just knew that i remember i was in primary school i told mom and

00:26:47.940 dad one day i'll go to the olympics and you know as you grow up you have your teachers your mentors

00:26:55.120 through life whoever it may be say okay you got to go to college you got to go and do this and stuff

00:27:00.440 and i was like okay well maybe it's not a realistic goal to go to the olympics because only superstars go

00:27:07.200 to the olympics well then uh you know found crossfit was completely and utterly terrible at weightlifting

00:27:17.140 like i had the strength but i had didn't have the technique and you know that was something that i

00:27:25.360 would needed work on right so i did everything that i needed to i had traveled six hours every two weeks

00:27:31.980 to go and see a weightlifting coach to improve that and at this time i wasn't doing it because

00:27:37.160 oh i haven't shot at the olympics i was just doing it because i was shit at it and so um my one of my

00:27:44.040 first uh visits at the um training hall with this um olympic coach he's like pumping my tires and saying

00:27:53.380 you know oh you have the strength and i can get you the technique and we could go to the olympics i was

00:27:58.200 like who is this guy you know he doesn't know me like who does he think he is telling me that i can

00:28:03.200 go to the olympics like it's not that easy yeah before i knew it we're qualifying for the olympics

00:28:08.560 like 11 months later and um we went to rio in 2016 that's freaking awesome yeah it like it's it's an

00:28:17.600 interesting thing because you know as much as we talk about how like yeah there are some real shit people

00:28:23.560 out there that help us motivate us and you know get us to our goal essentially but there's also

00:28:29.620 some really good people that uh you know come in your journey that you need to hold on to that help

00:28:35.280 and support you and it comes down to that team like i am an individual athlete but i wouldn't be here

00:28:41.100 without my team and yeah dude i think you you are hitting it spot on dude with i just want to

00:28:49.680 interrupt on the on the thing about guys because a lot of these guys listening and girls listening

00:28:56.600 they're just at the beginning right right like don't like when we say negative people that's like

00:29:02.000 two percent of the people absolutely yeah it's not the majority the majority are good yeah it's just

00:29:07.520 when you're when you're wired like that you tend to amplify the two percent yeah like you know

00:29:15.680 i'm i'm gonna find more fire and drive to prove that two percent wrong than i am you know that

00:29:22.960 other 98 percent that support me and and are behind me every step of the way i don't forget where i come

00:29:29.680 from and i don't forget those people and i know exactly who they are and i'm gonna credit them along

00:29:35.160 the journey but i need to make sure that i execute and i work hard and i get to where i am so that i can

00:29:41.180 credit those people and i can you know tell everyone else to go fuck themselves well dude the

00:29:47.000 thing is is like how much good comes of that too because the moral argument on that is like well

00:29:51.280 you know really you should be motivated but for the people that love you and you should be doing it

00:29:56.780 for them and then look motherfucker the things are going to be okay with those people whether i win

00:30:01.460 or lose right you know and and you well those other people they don't matter i agree they don't matter

00:30:07.000 but i still want to shove it down their fucking throat yeah you have to find motivation through

00:30:12.320 something right and so you know there's there's different channels and some days like you know

00:30:17.560 what do you mean by different channels so there's different channels of finding your why you know

00:30:22.420 every year every season i start with a different why to the last year but throughout that year i'm

00:30:29.440 also going to evolve and change as a person and so i'm going to adapt as well and so and this is

00:30:34.880 something that i learned along the journey i had to learn the hard way because my why well from from

00:30:40.320 my very first year was very different to my why in my second year and i was like oh no like i've lost

00:30:45.940 it like why why is it different it should be the same but it i've i've evolved as an individual i've

00:30:50.940 evolved as a human being and i i need to adapt and adjust on the fly because if i stay as the 2015

00:31:00.220 tier clear to me i i wouldn't be in this sport right i would have been second and and and being

00:31:07.100 happy with that like it it it it frustrates me so much that i was so happy with myself in 2015

00:31:14.520 because if i wasn't as happy as what i was like i genuinely felt like i was the true winner in 2015

00:31:21.080 because i didn't expect that but had i had like a different approach had i had the same emotion that i did

00:31:28.360 in 2016 i'd be the five-time world champion and then in 2015 that fucking bothers you doesn't it

00:31:34.700 i i could see it i gave it away yeah i know why i could see it yeah yeah yeah i know why i gave it

00:31:42.960 away and oh man dude i think that's the fittest human being in history yeah but dude that's the

00:31:49.820 process like the if you hadn't had that you you you wouldn't be sick if you haven't had that you

00:31:54.760 four times yeah yeah you know what i'm saying so there's pros and cons to it it definitely is that

00:32:00.920 definitely is dude if you talk to any of the great athletes bro they all say the same shit

00:32:04.660 they they will not talk about the shit that they won like michael george not talking about the shit

00:32:11.120 that he that the shots he made it's always the ones they miss yeah and it's always the championship i

00:32:16.780 missed or the this i missed or the that i missed and dude that's how you can really know how

00:32:21.520 someone's wired like when i met peyton manning i was talking to peyton and we were talking about

00:32:26.620 his mindset you know how the process like dude everybody at that level like your level is a

00:32:34.180 fucking obsessed with the process and we were talking and he starts telling me about you know

00:32:41.240 some of the shit that he did wrong and i'm like bro i want to hear the fucking glory story bro and he

00:32:46.320 you know but it's just funny like even guys like it's all the same man i think it's really sorry

00:32:54.020 sal it's just really interesting on that point you know the glory days now don't get me wrong i'm

00:32:59.980 very proud of my accomplishments and the and and i'm so honored and appreciative of everyone that has

00:33:06.940 helped me get there but standing on top of that podium on like you know in 2018 in my second year

00:33:14.960 i was like it's not enough it there was there's always something more and it's interesting and

00:33:23.200 you know i'd be intrigued to hear about these other people you're talking about you know just never

00:33:29.800 having that satisfaction um because you always just think oh you know when you get that trophy or

00:33:36.540 when you get that medal or you just you feel so satisfied what i've noticed with those guys is

00:33:43.740 they all become entrepreneurs every single one of them they they they they channel that drive and

00:33:51.120 that competitiveness into a new platform right only you ever get rid of it no it's something it's an

00:33:56.620 innate quality that you learn over time you're born with some of it you build some of it and then you

00:34:00.880 earn some of it right by the way they're all great entrepreneurs yeah not like well but that's but

00:34:05.760 that's why this story is so relevant is understanding like you know through failure comes success but

00:34:10.000 only if you're continuing to get back in the game and i yeah dude winning being a champion is

00:34:14.020 fucking being a champion it doesn't matter if it's business fitness the sports fucking yeah that's

00:34:18.960 like when i plastered that kid on our on our basketball court you're gonna learn today you

00:34:23.140 mean when that kid almost kicked your ass yeah right but it's interesting i have one nightmare and

00:34:27.620 it's repeating and i don't have it often but i do have it it's me missing a fastball it's weird

00:34:31.520 like in my brain how that that that miss i know that's really stupid but it's like the only thing

00:34:35.820 it'll wake me up in the middle of night i'll miss a fastball and i can visually see it right now in

00:34:39.740 my head that's weird missing i know it's it's it's weird because i have a similar dream except for

00:34:44.760 it's me fumbling the football which by the way i missed a lot of fatballs or fastballs i fumbled a

00:34:52.880 few footballs but you guys say how it doesn't happen all the time and this is what when uh you know i'm

00:34:59.240 bringing it back to the different channels so throughout the year you may wake up one day and you're feeling a

00:35:04.060 particular way and you'll think of that particular memory but then the next day or the next week or

00:35:10.200 the next month you won't have to worry about that you'll be thinking or you'll find motivation from

00:35:14.700 somewhere else and that's what i'm talking about like you evolve as a person and and you know you

00:35:19.780 have to be open-minded to those different channels to find that motivation whether it doesn't always

00:35:25.920 have to be because of those negative comments it doesn't always have to be you know from this xyz

00:35:31.660 so let me ask you this so when you're competing or training because i mean dude i've seen you guys

00:35:37.760 train it's all day like it's all day thing so when you get to that point let's say when you're

00:35:44.420 competing because it's far more intense and you're like leaving everything out there yep do you do you

00:35:50.340 consciously start to select where you're going to drop like the thoughts you're going to put in your

00:35:59.580 brain to get you to push through or do they do they just come um so when i'm competing i'm in a

00:36:07.540 a state of a flow um i don't actually think so i don't ever want to be overthinking my job i don't

00:36:16.200 ever want to be um you know focusing too much on what i have to do i want to be relaxed in the sense

00:36:22.280 like fired up but i also i want to let my um subconscious take over because i have worked so

00:36:29.680 hard and this is the thing confidence going into my competition i have all the confidence the world

00:36:35.060 because i know shane has given me the hardest program and i'm the only athlete that has trained

00:36:41.740 this hard i hands down know i'm the hardest hardest person that's that's done this and um so having that

00:36:50.540 confidence in my own ability is it allows me to win before i've even begun for sure and so

00:36:57.920 when i'm trained like i hate training um you know i i love the process don't get me wrong um i love the

00:37:05.660 fact that i have to put in the hard work i have to you know on those hard days i actually have to you

00:37:11.840 know be the one that does it shane tells me what to do or you know i may uh want to manipulate

00:37:17.400 certain things but at the end of the day i'm the one that has to put in the hard work

00:37:22.280 and i'm willing to do that because i know that this is what i want and i want to go out and achieve

00:37:28.980 it and if i don't achieve it i'm never going to feel satisfied and i won't ever be able to move

00:37:34.040 forward until i achieve it and so when i'm going out onto that competition floor there's nothing that's

00:37:42.620 going to beat me or stand in my way and if they do i'm gonna run over them yeah dude it's it's it's

00:37:48.120 humility so so it's humility and preparation and and confidence and execution man people have a hard

00:37:54.540 time understanding that process i was actually just talking to a friend of mine last night and we were

00:38:00.880 talking about um basically my goals and my future of what what's going on and also the fact that they

00:38:11.060 see me out in the fucking snow doing fucking cardio like a crazy person and they were asking like why

00:38:17.880 the fuck do you do that and i'm like well it's real simple why not well i know every motherfucker

00:38:22.520 that watches my shit every motherfucker that wants to eat my lunch everybody that wants to take me out

00:38:27.940 in business not one single motherfucker works like i work none of them and for that reason i'm never

00:38:33.940 scared ever ever because of the preparation and you know i believe that the hot a lot of people will

00:38:45.100 will say okay like they see us talk they hear us talking about you know stepping on throats and

00:38:50.560 kicking people's asses and shit and they say well that's those people are fucking cocky and blah blah

00:38:54.820 blah no dude to be great at something you have to be humble you have to be because you won't you won't

00:39:01.940 do the work if you're not you won't you'll think in your head well i'm already good enough i'm already

00:39:06.360 this i'm already that when you when you understand the process is humility in the prep and then when

00:39:14.880 you're on the floor or you're in the game it's fucking dude i'm gonna kill you okay when you

00:39:20.620 understand those are two different things that work together to create the result it makes sense but

00:39:26.500 so many people you know they see these athletes and like let's say in the nfl and maybe they go

00:39:32.260 overboard celebrating and then they don't like the person it's like bro you don't understand

00:39:36.100 what that person has had to go through to score that touchdown or win that game or win that mvp

00:39:41.800 and you're gonna judge their reaction that's loser shit because dude to even be that good like dude you

00:39:47.260 take lebron james i'm not a fucking lebron fan i'm really not um i think he's okay he's a great

00:39:53.620 fucking player i just i'm not you know i'm not a fucking fan that's it is what it is but here's

00:40:00.080 the thing that motherfucker puts in so much fucking work to be great that guy's a he might come across

00:40:07.940 in his interviews as cocky or this or that but to be that good you have to be humble you have to be

00:40:12.860 and that's where people get lost with the humility thing they think you know being humble is being meek

00:40:18.580 or being quiet or being you know a pushover and letting people know it's understanding that you

00:40:25.500 really aren't that good and we have to do the work so we can get better and i'm willing to do whatever

00:40:30.220 it takes to win that requires humility it just does by nature i 100 agree i i remember like my first

00:40:37.600 year you know and i am had no experience in front of cameras nothing like that you know and

00:40:44.580 because i was humble i was mistaken for being unconfident and i was like man

00:40:51.780 i'm pretty confident yeah like yeah um i'm pretty like tough when it comes to this stuff otherwise i

00:40:59.660 wouldn't be here yeah dude humility can humility could be your best friend or it could fucking bury

00:41:04.260 you and you have to know when to flip that switch from from okay i'm here to learn versus i'm here to

00:41:10.820 fucking execute that's a that's two complete different things and you guys listening have

00:41:15.240 to understand that because for you to continue to get better you have to be humble yep you have to

00:41:20.900 be humble in order to learn new things you know and and when it's time to execute you execute and if

00:41:26.660 you compartmentalize those two different processes it'll make sense to you a lot more when you watch

00:41:31.660 other people win and you know that little thing oh i don't like that guy because he celebrated the

00:41:36.620 wrong way or he he seems cocky or this or that just recognize that there's a lot of humility that

00:41:41.720 went up to that moment a lot otherwise they couldn't have got that good so you 2020 fourth time champion

00:41:49.520 just this just decided to embark on this little journey this new journey yeah we'll go to south

00:41:56.020 korea tell us a little bit about joining the bobsled team the two-person bobsled team for for your

00:42:01.420 country uh well so you know i had this opportunity i got an email from one of the um australian pilots

00:42:08.940 uh on the bobsled team and they asked if i wanted to be a part of the australian bobsled team leading

00:42:15.880 into the winter olympics for 2022 in beijing and so i thought well why not you know like for me the way

00:42:23.580 i look at things is as passionate as i am about crossfit and everything it's not the be all and end

00:42:30.600 all and you know when i first embarked on this journey i i wanted to go to the olympics that's all i

00:42:38.420 really truly cared about and because i've done that um you know it's only every four years so what am i

00:42:45.740 going to do within my time you know leading into that so i thought hey like i've i've been to the summer

00:42:51.540 olympics why not go to the winter olympics and you know i i know in my capabilities that i i can do

00:42:59.240 that and i can execute and be the best breakman that there is uh i just need to make sure that i

00:43:06.140 learn and and do the fundamentals now until the trials and i'll be right where i need to be because

00:43:12.380 i have i am implementing the right team around me to make sure i can execute that and uh with the

00:43:19.000 years that i've you know all the things that i've learned over the years i'm implementing that

00:43:23.840 into this you know short turnaround if you will because everyone's going to turn around and be

00:43:28.340 like oh yeah but like you know how can you be a part of an olympic team with you know in less than a

00:43:33.900 year it's like well just gotta work the pretty simple yeah i mean dude i listen i can tell you this

00:43:43.440 i'd want you on my team if i was if i was building a team i we said hey a year from now we're going to

00:43:50.480 do x traffic number one yeah fuck yeah because let's go yeah like dude that's the thing everyone

00:43:56.580 will be scared yeah but i mean like that's that's that's what it's about it's about doing the work

00:44:03.240 it's about do and it sounds so cliche nobody wants to hear it because they think there's a cut

00:44:08.700 around or a work around or this or that you hear the stories of michael jordan doing chess passes or

00:44:14.680 you know kobe getting to the gym at 3 a.m or guys you know great baseball players hitting bp you know

00:44:21.620 or the first guys they're hitting like guys that's how it works like it's just how it works and it's

00:44:30.020 not pretty no i mean i've i've had to be careful about you know expressing that i i don't love

00:44:38.120 training because people are like well why don't you love it because it's hard yeah and it's like if i am

00:44:45.460 like i mean the amount of rowing intervals that i have to do on a regular basis like yesterday

00:44:53.100 like i am i would be crazy or i would be lying to you if i told you i love that i love the outcome

00:45:01.700 of it that's right and that far surpasses the feeling that i feel during so that's how i justify it

00:45:09.380 but i i can't sit here and tell you guys that i love it yeah i i do love the process and stuff but

00:45:15.920 if you love it you you're not putting it you're not doing it hard enough dude tim grover talks about

00:45:22.440 this all the time like it's it is it's not about loving the process it's about executing the

00:45:27.820 process ali and loving hated training yeah loving the result more than anything yep but i think

00:45:34.440 that's interesting right because you you tie it back to to the lesson your dad taught you you know

00:45:38.520 which is focus on the process right and no matter what like you look at focus on the process and i

00:45:42.980 think this is an interesting transition specifically with you and your husband focus on the process

00:45:47.540 become a crossfit athlete focus on the process second focus on the process champion four-time

00:45:53.620 champion focus on the process gold medal focus on the process bobsled team yeah right and so when you

00:45:59.820 look at there's a cool story that's underlying with your team and chain or your guys you know the

00:46:06.160 proven fist you know the proven training system is an understanding like he has also developed as the

00:46:11.200 top crossfit coach along this process and you being his little guinea pig right yeah or a teammate

00:46:16.920 however you want to look at that literally like to to help me so you know he obviously showed me

00:46:22.920 crossfit and then i you know got obsessed with it and i said to him like hey i need someone to help me

00:46:30.580 these fuckers over here aren't going to help me they just want me to do like everyday classes and

00:46:36.260 that's not going to get me to do well in this next competition you need to help me and we literally

00:46:42.260 youtube jason kalipa uh he was showing us how to do rope climb we learned on youtube and then

00:46:49.240 shane started coaching me from there and from then on he was the only one that's programmed for me

00:46:54.480 we've definitely had guidance along the way it's being open-minded and and humble learning as we go like

00:47:00.740 you have to learn if you're not willing to learn from other people that have been in the space

00:47:04.840 then like do you like you're not gonna get very far that's most people most people think they're

00:47:12.880 too good to learn you know they don't want to fail like dude explain this to me you want to do

00:47:18.380 something great okay you step out i'm talking to you listening you you decide i'm gonna do x and x is

00:47:24.940 something big and you go out the first day and you fucking suck at it and then most people right

00:47:31.300 there you know what they say this ain't for me yeah it's not for me i can't do it after one

00:47:36.760 fucking day or two days dude what what about this do you guys not realize this is fucking years and

00:47:42.940 years and years of work every day to be great and there is no 900 fucking dollar program that you

00:47:52.000 could buy to skip that it's just not going to happen and you have to realize that these things that

00:47:59.160 we talk about this isn't the alternative way it's the only way it's the only way so if you're not

00:48:07.520 willing to do this you should stop listening to the show you should stop listening to all the fucking

00:48:13.760 success people stop stop torturing yourself with all this information and go be happy living a regular

00:48:22.200 life that's my advice for real and there's nothing wrong with that but you will torture yourself

00:48:27.440 your whole entire life looking for a path that doesn't require blood sweat commitment pain

00:48:36.660 if you want the payoff it's just you will torture yourself

00:48:41.160 i don't know another way man well i don't think there there are any other there isn't another way

00:48:47.540 dude there's no secret button no there's no uh like secret equation nothing i mean you could use

00:48:55.460 first form protein shakes but i'll just say no oh yeah did we not tell no but i think it's important

00:49:02.240 because i i like you know it's funny because o'keefe he's gonna throw that shit in there yeah we don't

00:49:06.960 plug it off yeah but o'keefe you know he's in your camp as well and i remember i remember the first time

00:49:12.080 you know i was talking and he's like you're gonna really like tia and shane you know and in my brain

00:49:16.980 you know we've had a lot of arrogance come through our field uh over the last you know five ten years

00:49:21.300 and you know and you're always kind of take that with a grain of salt and i think you know going

00:49:25.620 back to the focus on the process but the humility inside that process and and how shane and you

00:49:30.780 together have built a system or uh a training system to win is just a reflection upon your guys's

00:49:39.140 character and i think that's what really like knowing you guys as people now because i understand

00:49:44.220 the crossfit space in in some regards from the standpoint of training my training system's better

00:49:48.540 right or buy my program it's a cut copy paste but to take a regular guy who's just going to go help

00:49:54.280 his wife through this process and the humility to be able to check down and get on youtube and go to

00:49:58.500 jason calipa who's now you know a friend of ours a friend of yours and now develop a process through

00:50:03.920 humility and failure and trial and error and you know and making sure and now you guys are at the

00:50:09.360 top i think that's a great piece to your guys story because it's more than just you know hey tia

00:50:13.960 tia wins four-time you know champ four-time crossfit games champ i mean shane's built a

00:50:19.140 hell of a business for himself in regards to you know you guys developing the best system and i think

00:50:23.720 you know watching that's a two parallel careers and champions that are both going on at the same

00:50:29.180 time you know and so the humility and meeting you guys on the on the front side was was a great

00:50:33.440 experience and and i'm forever indebted to the nicest humans i've ever met my life i remember you

00:50:38.480 asked me well what were they like and i said like us you know what i mean and we might not be the

00:50:41.980 nicest humans of all time but at least to us we think that's a compliment i'm pretty fucking nice

00:50:47.800 until i'm not

00:50:50.120 um yeah no i i mean for for for shane especially you know like um we'd been in a relationship

00:51:00.620 prior to this whole crossfit world and everything and um he'd always been so passionate about you know

00:51:07.640 fitness gym like he's always in the gym you know working working out all the time and so to be able

00:51:15.640 to um like and he had another job you know he had a full-time job he was a fitter intern i worked in

00:51:22.760 the mines um but you always could tell that you know his heart was somewhere else right he was doing

00:51:28.680 that because that's what you know everyone told him to do and it was going to be financially supportive

00:51:34.480 like you you work six six months of the year you you get all these benefits blah blah blah blah blah

00:51:41.300 but he never was satisfied you know there was just never that and it wasn't until we were able to

00:51:48.480 start you know training and and you know getting on that process and starting to make a name for

00:51:55.520 ourselves i know a motivation for me was hey like let's get into a position where we can shane doesn't

00:52:02.600 have to work anymore and he can be there full-time and you know after many years of sacrificing so

00:52:10.900 much and i don't actually i don't like the word sacrifice because i was willing to do this shane

00:52:15.480 was willing to do that you're investing yeah there there wasn't any sacrifices um but like everyone's

00:52:24.780 always asked him oh what what qualifications do you have nothing i just i took it upon myself to learn

00:52:31.180 to evolve to to listen sounds like me and it's like you know yeah he he just you know put in the

00:52:38.060 work essentially and uh you know this year finally like we like to keep our cards close

00:52:45.640 but this year finally um and honestly you guys had a huge uh influence on us you know uh rebranding from

00:52:54.480 uh more of like you know my my personal training to um to proven our online program and actually

00:53:02.300 getting it out there and helping other athletes you know but and the reason i bring that up is is not

00:53:09.340 to plug the proven system but because i've seen the part of the process too and and and i think it's

00:53:15.580 important because i wanted you to tell that story you know because that story what i thought was the

00:53:19.580 first time i thought was amazing to hear it is like you wanted to put your family in a position

00:53:23.980 so he didn't have to do what he did not want to do so that he could go chase his dreams and i think

00:53:29.320 you know when you're listening as a young as a as a young person whether you're an entrepreneur or

00:53:32.920 wanting to be an entrepreneur or you're a person climbing the ropes you know give the audience a

00:53:40.640 little bit of like why that was so important to to chase your dreams and to let him chase his dreams

00:53:45.540 and to be a team in that sense so that he could be fulfilled you know and and maybe he had to take

00:53:50.600 a step back and chase something that was burning inside of him but i think a lot of people never

00:53:55.040 they never chase that because they're afraid of not taking the comfortable route um you know

00:54:01.060 it's it's an interesting one so like obviously there was certain things that we needed to

00:54:09.640 put into place that allowed us to be where we are today but we also had to align ourselves with the

00:54:16.440 right people you know um and one of them actually being uh signing ourselves up and and being a part of

00:54:23.680 um first form and then also having you know mentors like i look at you guys as mentors and helping us

00:54:30.660 be more courageous in decision making and one of the things that shane um has often said and

00:54:38.420 you guys just reiterated and it was it was it was at a time in our life we were like you know what

00:54:43.860 fuck it if we're gonna go for it i'd like to know that we made a choice to go for and put you know

00:54:52.620 everything into it and failed rather than just staying complacent and just not knowing or having

00:54:59.520 the what ifs you know what if we took that chance what if you know we did this instead of that

00:55:06.300 would we have been here instead of actually just going out and doing it there's a lot of peace

00:55:11.700 that comes with that yeah yeah dude i'm okay not hitting where we want to go like if we don't get

00:55:18.460 where we want to go or okay i can deal with that because i know that day in and day out that we're

00:55:25.060 fucking doing everything that we can do within our abilities both as a team the first form but also

00:55:31.860 individually you know like if you end up coming a little short and you did everything you could

00:55:38.160 what the fuck can you say about it well i think this ties back into though to be part of the beginning

00:55:41.900 of the show of like but we ain't coming up short no yeah i was gonna say when you said that so you

00:55:46.300 you can retire i guess we don't get there but my point being is like you know we said this in

00:55:50.800 the beginning of the show about no i listen i'm not fucking softening up here motherfucker i'm just

00:55:55.700 saying we were on the conversation and we were talking about life and i said hey maybe i misspoke

00:56:04.960 maybe i'd be if he's getting too old over here we gotta get him some depends you know what i mean

00:56:08.200 he's softening up in his older age you know not true no but i i wanted to go back should i even

00:56:13.680 forget where i was gonna go brain fart but you know and i think back to um i did forget where i was

00:56:20.440 well have a think but just in terms of like it's okay to fail yeah so like you know that was one of

00:56:27.220 the things that um when you know we we talk about like how you know shane he he wants to go out there

00:56:35.200 and if he fails it's okay like at least he knows he gave it a shot when i think about it with my

00:56:39.680 training you know if i'm going for a back squat i'm like oh i don't know if i can get this

00:56:43.600 fuck it like just go for it if you get it great you know you can get it but if you don't well you

00:56:50.840 know where you're you're capable of and then the next time you go back squatting i guarantee you'll

00:56:55.720 get it and it's just it's it's the same thing in life the same thing in um business like you will

00:57:02.400 not know unless you try and you know why not try like who who else is going to do it for you you

00:57:10.740 have to do it for yourself what are we supposed to do right like what are we supposed to do sit on

00:57:14.900 the fucking couch and eat tim tim tams oh i mean tim tams look pretty good yeah yeah no but my point

00:57:22.840 being is we there's a podcast on this what if but i was talking about the batter's box like most people

00:57:26.940 they don't have the balls to step in the batter's box and face a 90 mile an hour pitch they just

00:57:30.960 don't but they have no problem judging but i'd much rather go up there knowing what it looks like

00:57:35.980 and swinging and missing a few times and at least saying hey man that was fucking hard versus say

00:57:40.420 how fast was it it was fucking fast but understanding like i have that experience and maybe that experience

00:57:46.700 will help me transition to something else in life but not having the courage because you're afraid to

00:57:51.420 lose going back to the losing proposition that's that's weakness dude that fear comes from irrelevant

00:57:56.980 people like that's the thing it's not a it's not a quality that people have in their brain

00:58:02.540 it's that they don't know how to they don't know how to distribute value across people's opinions

00:58:07.800 right so so the person on the internet that they don't know who is you know dude literally like for

00:58:14.780 real in their fucking parents basement you know probably doing who knows what okay they value that same

00:58:24.360 shit as much as their fucking parents yeah who so dude you have to be able to assign value to

00:58:31.260 people's opinions uh this motherfucker who who doesn't know shit about shit who doesn't have

00:58:37.280 anything together going on he's fucking fat out of shape his job clearly sucks i could tell from

00:58:42.020 looking at his page um bro you got nothing to say to me bro like it doesn't fucking it doesn't

00:58:48.200 fucking matter right now if i fucking hear from ed my let and ed says hey andy um you're fucking

00:58:55.840 selling yourself short bro and you should be doing this this and guess what i'm gonna fucking listen

00:59:00.560 to it and so dude we have to understand if you want to stay sane and not insane like me okay

00:59:08.120 we have to understand that there's different values that we need to assign to people's opinions of us

00:59:14.160 and when you're just starting out dude you're fucking friends from the old hood uh tommy and

00:59:19.240 joey and fucking suzy they don't fucking know anything they're they're just think it's weird

00:59:24.980 that you're doing something that they're not doing and dude you guys let that pressure stop you

00:59:30.320 from becoming something that is probably great dude everybody that's in this place this is why i'm so

00:59:36.340 passionate about the success topic bro all of us were born to be fucking great

00:59:43.340 and it's your obligation to be whatever it is that you are be great at that because there's people

00:59:50.580 looking at you saying i i like that person look at look at that person look at look at steve steve's

00:59:57.960 kicking ass he's got his shit together and while all the moment all the time steve's thinking well

01:00:03.400 i'm a piece of shit you know i'm just gonna quit like dude you guys have people that look up to you

01:00:08.100 and when you don't fucking overcome your own insecurities and your inability to delineate

01:00:14.120 value and distribute it properly because some fucking fat dumb fuck says some shit to you about

01:00:20.920 your goals um guys do you understand that you're letting not just yourself down but your kids down

01:00:29.860 they're fucking kids you're you're realigning the future of dozens of people that you are just not

01:00:38.540 even thinking of and if you thought about it like that you might be a little more excited about what

01:00:44.020 it is that you do because do i tell you one thing dude i don't have kids of my own but your kids ain't

01:00:49.760 ever gonna see a motherfucking loser they ain't gonna see it not i got asked i got asked uh yesterday i was

01:00:56.480 i was doing a an interview with with a guy and he asked what was the best quality that you think you

01:01:01.580 got from your parents and i instantly responded the ability to compete because competing to me is like

01:01:06.720 i'm not afraid to compete i understand like there's some fundamental things that i might not be better

01:01:11.540 at but i'm not afraid to fucking go play and i'm really curious coming from the fittest female on earth

01:01:20.520 arguably the fittest person on earth right we could have that conversation yeah why not yeah we could

01:01:25.280 compete with the boys yeah i know i watched yeah i watched a wadapalooza but the single best quality

01:01:34.500 that your parents gave you what would it be to be tough resilient yeah um you know i can you give us

01:01:43.300 an example yeah um and that may sound simple but if i'm not tough then i'm not willing to work

01:01:50.240 and if i'm not willing to work then nothing happens and i think that the tougher i am

01:01:56.780 the more adversity i face can you define tough because i think some people digest tough a little

01:02:02.680 different give me tough mentally tough physically tough emotionally tough or just tough covering all

01:02:08.240 three for me covering all three you know when when it's when there's a cyclone outside and you're like

01:02:15.580 oh no you know it's dangerous and i'm just gonna get wet and i'm gonna get cold well toughen up you

01:02:24.320 just get out there and and go through that run like i i remember that um i had cross country training back

01:02:32.840 in school and we had a cyclone i think it was like category three or four and dad was in the car

01:02:39.300 behind me driving behind me while i was getting in my my running training and people were looking at

01:02:45.940 me funny but dad's like rain hell or shine to you if you want to go out there and achieve something

01:02:51.180 you have to go out there and do it that was the day that you won the fucking championship because all

01:02:57.740 your people that you compete with won't do that shit so that one or two or three days where it's going

01:03:02.800 crazy that's the edge you see what i'm saying like yeah absolutely i and you know i know you know i'm

01:03:08.760 just but it's just it's it's it's comforting to reiterate like yeah i'm not crazy you know people

01:03:15.640 will 100 think i'm crazy but that's still up for judgment yeah i mean whatever i'm gonna own it

01:03:22.640 but i i genuinely think that if you aren't tough like mentally physically emotionally and you'll grow

01:03:29.880 you'll learn to to develop and as long as you're open-minded and you're willing to to actually

01:03:36.140 evolve but like physically tough like you know if i get a scratch on my hand well too bad like it's

01:03:43.440 just a scratch it's not going to kill me you know if i'm if i've got a headache well you know what

01:03:49.860 competition day you may have a headache so just push through it like just little things like that

01:03:55.660 just not finding like not looking at the excuses pushing them aside and being like i can't i can't

01:04:02.440 have those excuses standing in my way i need to just keep charging through because i have i'm on a

01:04:07.460 mission it's zero compromise zero zero i am doing this and that's it i think one of the best

01:04:15.280 one of the best quotes or best reminders uh all the podcast guests we've had was chad right

01:04:22.540 when they just remove failure off table like what else what we got yeah you know i'm gonna keep

01:04:27.120 moving yeah and i think you know about being tough when you start thinking about that emotionally

01:04:31.540 physically spiritually like it's like listen shit's gonna happen yeah you're gonna fucking have to work

01:04:37.540 in those times like there's not it's not i think this is a struggle that happens with a lot again a

01:04:41.940 young entrepreneur or somebody who's young it's never ideal you know it's never 80 and sunny and

01:04:46.820 with low humidity you're gonna go for a run it's always fucking 98 and 100 humidity or 12 i mean

01:04:52.420 that's the mental aspect about being tough is like understanding like it's never perfect you still gotta

01:04:57.240 go fight and you're still gonna have to go fucking play and that's life i think life through failure

01:05:01.880 and understanding that you have to learn to adapt in the most fucking different situations but the

01:05:07.940 resiliency to continue to go back out and play or go back out and achieve is where the difference

01:05:12.420 between good and great exists right you know and and the confidence exists because you're you're okay

01:05:17.520 if you get in the game day and you got a headache guess what you've already trained in that situation

01:05:22.120 you're good it don't fucking matter i think it's interesting so um we talk about um you know wanting

01:05:30.260 to be this incredible person and constantly trying to strive and achieve your goals but you are who you

01:05:36.640 surround yourself with and if anyone wants an easy route surround yourself with people that are going

01:05:42.380 to be like-minded you know um i've been in many situations where i've noticed that wow like i'm not

01:05:52.280 surrounding myself with people that i want to be surrounded by and hey i'm not saying that they're

01:05:56.600 bad people i'm just saying they're weak yeah and if i want to be tough like i've been brought up i need

01:06:02.660 to make sure i'm surrounded by the tough people so when it comes to game day and when it comes to

01:06:07.040 leading into the games my mom and dad they're not there to be my mom and dad they're make them

01:06:12.700 they're there to make sure that i am not you know making excuses or anything like that they're telling

01:06:18.140 me i have to get up early i have to go out there do those 12 hour days in the gym and then come back

01:06:24.320 recover and repeat it you know and they're not my friends shane shane's my husband he's my coach

01:06:30.560 he's been doing this with me since day one but he is my hardest critic and you know that's because

01:06:37.380 he loves you i i'm my hardest critic to be fair that's how you know he loves you dude but yeah yeah

01:06:42.940 he and he will be the first to tell me how wrong i am or how soft i am and you know it happened in

01:06:49.200 career uh just i just wasn't you know doing what i should be doing and you know he had to pull me up

01:06:57.220 and be like this is this is not what we're we've you know built and worked to to strive for tia

01:07:03.460 we expect more that's and some people may look at that of being like oh that's harsh or you know oh

01:07:09.520 he's not you know he he's a harsh husband or or coach or whatever but he knows what i want yeah and

01:07:17.540 he knows how unsatisfied i'll be if i don't achieve it and so he's going to have to like he sometimes is

01:07:23.460 the one that has to you know tell me to pull my head in yeah well i mean i talked to him a little

01:07:28.680 bit about that yesterday he's like i'm not we're not here to participate like we're either here to

01:07:32.440 win or we're gonna go home you know but you got to make the choice right but i think that bleeds

01:07:36.620 over into a great relationship and understanding like who you surround yourself with is extremely

01:07:40.740 important because you know i'll take my wife for example like she's the first person didn't tolerate

01:07:45.660 my shit guess what i really like that because even in the dark times now like if i have a bad day or

01:07:52.540 hey listen it's a little harder than i thought well that's what you signed up for you know that

01:07:55.480 you know that voice of reason that everybody else will kind of comfort it you need somebody that'll

01:08:00.180 put your ass in check and say you need them close yeah and you got to know like when you're struggling

01:08:04.880 hey listen like i need that advice yeah like i don't need the fucking pat on the ass i need you to

01:08:09.560 like hey let me know where i stand here right toughen you up a little bit yeah tough rub some dirt in it

01:08:15.140 and dude that was like my favorite point of the show that you just made like that shane does that

01:08:19.260 that's fucking awesome like more dude i struggle so much with people who you know hit hit up the

01:08:27.160 you know email or whatever and they send in questions and they want to know this or that or

01:08:30.800 this and they always complain about when people they're like oh well so they told me this and that

01:08:36.520 and it's like bro it sounds like they're trying to coach you like push you like it's not just because

01:08:42.800 someone says hey get the fuck off the floor and get to work doesn't mean they don't care it means

01:08:47.400 they fucking care i had a conversation we were talking about it on the way in i had with one

01:08:51.860 of our employees today and i had to have a tough love conversation it's not that i don't like you

01:08:55.820 it's that i expect more out of you than you expect out of yourself and i'm gonna fucking hold you to

01:08:59.220 that standard if i don't hold you yeah and in 10 years that motherfucker be coming back to you being

01:09:03.260 like dude that's right thank you and i told him i said listen i've never failed you to this point

01:09:07.440 everything that we have promised you has delivered yeah i'm asking you to get better i'm not asking you

01:09:12.420 to fuck i'm not asking for anything other than you to give me what we've given you yeah you got

01:09:16.840 to compete and if you won't compete i'll find somebody who will and that's it that's the truth

01:09:20.760 and that's a hard conversation and people might hear that you know because they went through their

01:09:24.500 sensitivity training today you know at work but that's not sensitivity training is not going to

01:09:29.220 get you better no not only that bro like dude that this is where temporary winning comes into place

01:09:33.980 right like people get too soft that's right we see this shit where and i'm not talking about

01:09:39.140 that situation i'm talking in general we see this shit right like we work hard work hard we

01:09:44.440 get a result and then oh we're done with the work why stop there yeah like dude i i can always tell

01:09:52.240 i just talked about this on on the show i did with omar about 75 hard last episode you can always tell

01:09:57.400 who the fuck did it by what they're going to do at the end because at the end there's two kinds of

01:10:02.160 people there's people that are like fuck i don't know what to do like this is i'm fucking having

01:10:05.660 anxiety about an ending because this is so great and i've developed so much and i've

01:10:08.840 built so much confidence and i got so much i don't want to stop well guess what motherfucker

01:10:13.080 don't that's the point and then you got the other people i can't wait to get done with my day at 75

01:10:18.520 and have a fucking cake and some chicken wings and this and that you didn't do it bro you didn't do

01:10:23.000 it because if you really did it you wouldn't even want that shit anymore right you'd want to keep

01:10:27.060 going the right direction it's like why stop it great right when we can be unstoppable that's right

01:10:31.220 and so this is where this is where man that's fucking good that was a great quote so so dude

01:10:37.500 the uh the the temporary winning is this is why you see so many people achieve a certain level of

01:10:46.140 life or success and then fall off like dude you know your your homie from high school or college

01:10:51.600 whatever you know he's got it together he's rocking and rolling he's kicking ass and then you don't hear

01:10:55.720 from two years and then two years you found out he lost his business he lost his wife he lost his

01:10:59.920 fucking house he lost his cars he lost everything well the reason this that this happens to people guys

01:11:06.260 is because you haven't come to terms with the fact that you have to do this work for your whole life

01:11:14.080 if you could just accept that like just accept it dude it's the biggest thing that you could do for

01:11:19.520 yourself right now just swallow the fucking pill that lets you know i am going to have to work like

01:11:25.520 a fucking dog every single day of my life and just accept it and then once you accept it it's no longer

01:11:31.280 this thing where it's like um oh you know i won the state title in 1987 scored 17 touchdowns and dude

01:11:38.540 nobody likes that shit like it doesn't mean anything to anybody nobody gives a fuck but you

01:11:42.980 it's what have you what are you doing now what are you doing now yeah i think there's an there's an

01:11:48.460 understanding there right like you still don't have to love the work you just have to understand it's

01:11:52.540 part of the process yeah for sure yeah like i gotta do it today regardless that work that hard-ass work

01:11:59.500 day in and day out is what builds the things that you need to be happy people don't assume

01:12:05.200 they don't correlate hard work and happiness and discipline and happiness and what i've

01:12:11.880 experienced both personally and from talking to many different you know i've been blessed dude i get to

01:12:17.940 talk to some of the highest achieving people in their in their area in the world all the time

01:12:21.700 they're my friends now dude it's it's it's they're not happy unless they're disciplined

01:12:28.040 it's just the way it is and the what you're searching for right now you're sitting there and

01:12:32.540 you're like fuck you know i don't something's missing something's missing something's missing

01:12:37.760 dude i'm telling you it's discipline in your fucking daily routine that's what it is you're not

01:12:43.600 doing the work to believe in yourself so that when you look in the mirror you say i'm fucking proud of

01:12:49.940 you that's what's missing and that comes from your daily disciplines and investments aka sacrifices

01:12:56.680 average people call it sacrifices driven people call it an investment the investments you make

01:13:02.060 in yourself to believe in yourself like and that's what i have this problem with all this shit and

01:13:07.200 culture right now you know oh you're special your your worth is so high your worth is this no

01:13:13.720 motherfucker your worth is your worth it's your worth okay what it's you cannot talk yourself

01:13:19.500 into feeling good about yourself the amount of people have told me it's genetics yeah i'm like

01:13:24.520 fuck yeah well i mean i love my mom and dad but i don't think it's genetics dude i watched you train

01:13:31.680 for like fucking seven hours i i was training in the gym i said this to you yesterday i was training in

01:13:38.160 the gym i got done with my training i did like 10 fucking meetings i come into sales office i look out

01:13:45.020 guess who's still in the fucking gym from when i was in there you and shay and i fucking said dude

01:13:50.400 they're still in the gym and he's like yeah bro that's every day i'm like holy fuck like job yeah

01:13:56.500 dude it's awesome it was awesome i was blown away like in a good way i was like yeah dude that's awesome

01:14:01.880 well it makes sense right yeah the equation adds up yeah and i i i want to and i'm not trying to wrap

01:14:07.320 the show up but i'm i we do got to wrap the show yeah i do want to get to a point you said earlier

01:14:11.780 it's not the end all be all for tia and i put a little note here because i think it's important

01:14:16.720 like what is the end all be all like tia is 28 right 28 years old yep yep what's the end all be

01:14:23.780 all um what's tia's fucking rule the world man yeah yeah you know i think for for me it it definitely

01:14:30.800 comes down to family in and you know surrounding myself with good people and people that have

01:14:36.440 you know shown me guidance and and time and and love essentially and giving back to them and by doing

01:14:45.160 that it may be in different little things you know like um whether whether i compete for another 10 years

01:14:52.280 or whether i retire tomorrow whatever it is i'm always going to put my best foot forward you know

01:14:59.620 and i think that for me i don't want to be defined by crossfit you know i'm i have values that i stand

01:15:10.380 by and i implement into everything whether it's my athletic career whether it's my business career

01:15:16.880 my fit being a family you know friends whatever and uh i always just want to be known and you know

01:15:24.620 left the room when people think well wow you know i i want i want to be around her more or you know

01:15:32.960 she she knows what she's doing and for me i think that like it's hard because like i think that i'm going

01:15:43.240 to evolve all the time and like i i'm so open-minded to being more than what i am today but um i'm

01:15:51.680 definitely not just an athlete and i'm someone that like just wants to go out there and try try and

01:15:58.820 you know put in the work and and give it absolutely everything i got and whatever that may be who knows

01:16:05.660 like right now i'm focused on on my athletic career and building my business but i know that's not just

01:16:11.140 going to be it then one day it will be a family and you know i want to be the best mom out there you

01:16:16.300 know um and i know that because shane and i have been in a relationship for a very long time

01:16:23.440 i i genuinely thought i had like six kids by now but um you know that that's definitely been a

01:16:31.300 motivation through my whole career you know setting up a a solid baseline so that when it came to

01:16:40.480 having kids like i had a platform for them to do whatever they wanted but as long as they worked

01:16:47.060 hard for it that's right i don't think there's anything and i mean this with a thousand percent

01:16:52.860 of my being i don't think there's any single thing that you could want to do that you couldn't do

01:16:59.980 like for real like and i know that's what people just from what i know and and by the way

01:17:05.980 you're already doing that like what you said about coming being around people and they walk away and

01:17:12.720 say man i'd like to be around that person more like dude that's that's exactly what you put out

01:17:20.180 i mean it's i mean when you agree yeah i was gonna say i mean like when i saw you guys here the other

01:17:24.500 day on sunday i thought you're still in korea i was like fuck i'm glad they're here like this is

01:17:30.900 awesome you know what i'm saying and it because dude it's it's motivating to be around people

01:17:35.780 that think and work and follow through on those values it's just and it there's a lot of people

01:17:41.980 that say they're like that right like oh i'm like that but you know you know yeah yeah i was sad

01:17:47.760 whenever i heard you were moving to nashville because i knew st louis was possibly on the radar

01:17:50.900 and i thought man because it's inspiring to watch you guys work every day yeah nashville's a great

01:17:54.280 city but you know to have people around you talk about who you surround yourself with that constant

01:17:58.900 reminder specifically like for my office to look out there and be like all right yeah she she's working

01:18:04.380 for nine hours today i can work for nine hours here today you know i can go get my i can go get

01:18:08.040 my extra hour in that's right yeah but that but that teamwork right because i mean that's how it

01:18:11.800 is at the end of the day and i know we're extremely proud to have you as a part of our team and so

01:18:15.320 that you know to to say that people speak highly about you and shane when you guys are are not around

01:18:21.360 is an understatement you know and i think that's that's the part you know it's a feeling though dude

01:18:26.320 yeah like you can feel when you're around like when you walk in there's a presence that you have

01:18:30.460 both of you that's that's a high achieving driven positive pres honestly dude like it it makes sense

01:18:39.220 you're here like to be honest like it's it's everything that i hope our people are you're

01:18:47.080 already so it's it's really fucking cool well the feelings mutual guys you know we're getting putting

01:18:52.820 our emotions out there i know shane and i we definitely like i've said it before um earlier in

01:18:58.380 the podcast but like shane and i literally left here thinking like oh shit's gonna get real now

01:19:06.900 and like we genuinely were just so hyped like no one so jason caliper he like he like surprised me

01:19:17.120 in our first interaction and like started asking me a lot of questions that started making me question

01:19:22.320 like my life i was like whoa okay i like this you know no one does this to me first and andy you

01:19:29.360 weren't actually here when i first met sal and came and visited the the whole um team but um like our

01:19:36.300 first interaction with sal it was like whoa mind blown like we need to do more shit with our life

01:19:44.760 and like that was just like the beginning of okay we want to be more around and the only reason we're

01:19:52.860 actually not staying here in st louis is because um so this is the first year that shane and i are

01:19:58.700 actually opening up our doors essentially and we're i'm i've come so sick and tired of watching

01:20:06.680 great athlete well good athletes they're good right now good athletes just get

01:20:12.380 the scraps from coaches from training partners just from other people they're just taking advantage

01:20:20.140 of their brand and i'm i'm confident enough in myself that i can actually do this by myself and

01:20:26.760 i don't need shane you know holding my hand essentially like he last year at the crossfit games

01:20:31.760 was the first time where i i didn't even need to call him i called him because i was like you know what

01:20:37.340 like i'm just reassuring you shane that you've set me up to that so much that i know what i need to do

01:20:43.980 and that's like a you know five-year process right six-year process but um i feel more confident now

01:20:52.580 knowing that i can let shane go and help other athletes become the best version of themselves

01:20:58.640 while i still get to execute mine and make sure i beat them you know yeah yeah and so the reason we're

01:21:05.300 going down to nashville is because we have four other athletes that are based down in nashville

01:21:10.180 that you know shane needs to be a little bit more hands-on and i'm willing to take that sacrifice even

01:21:16.740 though i know where i want where my heart wants to be um because that's it again it's not a sacrifice

01:21:23.400 but it's it's what i'm willing to do because i can see the importance of it and you know whether

01:21:29.660 we're there for just the open period whatever at least we're going to be there for you know

01:21:35.080 giving back and them and and allowing them to actually truly reach their full potential because

01:21:40.660 right now they're not reaching anything near it and that's not fair on them well i'd love to have you

01:21:47.020 yeah they're welcome to come visit anytime you just take a field trip yeah it's five hour chip shot

01:21:51.680 bring them up you can show them you guys i've already built one of them up yeah yeah that's right

01:21:56.460 nashville is good people man that's one of my favorite places to visit i could live there yeah

01:22:01.220 i love the people there it's i think you guys will really like it yeah no i hope we do too but you

01:22:06.940 gotta bring them up and show them your you know the home court yeah you know what i mean show them

01:22:10.940 around well we appreciate you being on the show no thanks for having me thank you so much we definitely

01:22:15.400 need to do that again this has been fun like super fun it's it's prime time because it's the start

01:22:20.020 of the season and i've just got a whole lot of motivation to just get after it now hey well

01:22:25.500 next time you're up we'll hit another one that was that was cool guys um just a wrap appreciate

01:22:31.880 you guys love you guys uh hope you enjoyed the show if you did um please share it you know give

01:22:38.600 us a little share a little little love out there you know when friends ask you uh why you're kicking

01:22:42.900 so much ass make sure you tell them where you're listening all right guys love you guys we'll see

01:22:47.500 you next time

01:22:47.940 you

REAL AF with Andy Frisella - February 19, 2021

99. Becoming Unstoppable Ft. Tia-Clair Toomey

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