REAL AF with Andy Frisella - August 27, 2015


ASK ANDY： Hustle vs. Productivity, with Andy Frisella - MFQA5


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

186.29211

Word Count

2,940

Sentence Count

276

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

In this special Q&A, The MFCEOEOE and his co-host, Von Kohler, answer some of your burning questions. Topics covered include: - How much sleep should you get in a day? - How many hours should you be awake? - Is 9-5 work better than 9-6 work? - Should you grind it out 24/7? - What's the right amount of hours to work on a project? - Can you get it all done in 24 hours? - Is it better to get things done in the morning, or do you need more sleep to get it done?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, what's up? This is Andy Priscilla, the MFCEO, and you're listening to the MFCEO Project.
00:00:22.660 I am here with my co-host and good buddy, Von Kohler. What's up, dude?
00:00:26.120 I'm great. I'm just still reeling from our earlier conversation where Tyler implied that you weren't a nice guy.
00:00:32.820 I know. He's a hater.
00:00:34.760 Yeah, he's a hater.
00:00:36.360 All right, guys, we're going to get right into it. Today is a special Q&A episode.
00:00:40.680 I think we're going to take one or two questions, not sure how many.
00:00:43.020 Von's going to pepper me, and I'm going to answer.
00:00:45.780 Yeah, so...
00:00:46.580 So let's get right into it.
00:00:47.480 Yeah, I mean, are you okay with me doing all that informational type stuff that I'm normally...
00:00:52.040 Yeah, go ahead.
00:00:52.400 Okay. So basically, guys, if you want the show notes page for this Q&A session, you go to themfceo.com slash QA4 or 5.
00:01:05.440 You know what? I'm really off my game, but it's either 4 or 5, but you'll figure it out.
00:01:10.800 But just go to themfceo.com. You can get show notes for all of our episodes.
00:01:15.020 It also includes links to the books Andy recommends or the beef jerky or really anything.
00:01:22.860 It's important.
00:01:24.080 Yeah, anything I mention on the show, we link it up on the site so it's easy to reference.
00:01:28.240 And you can make comments on the website. It's Facebook integrated, so we love to hear your comments there.
00:01:35.800 And just, yeah, driving traffic to our website is a good thing for us. It helps a lot.
00:01:40.340 And then our social media connections. Andy, you want to do those for you?
00:01:43.620 I'm at Andy Purcello on Instagram. Also the same, at Andy Purcello on Periscope.
00:01:48.180 If you want to see some behind-the-scenes nonsense, the MFCO-1 on Snapchat. I'm sorry, MFCO-1.
00:01:59.500 Right.
00:01:59.940 We just got a new minibike. We bought a Honda CT70 for the office, so I've been Snapchatting myself riding that thing around.
00:02:07.520 Nice. Very cool. For Snapchat, I am VKO-MFCEO. And for everything else, Instagram, Periscope, everything else, it's just at Vaughn Kohler.
00:02:19.040 V-A-U-G-H-N-K-O-H-L-E-R.
00:02:20.800 Okay, so I've got a question here. I don't know if it's going to make you mad, man.
00:02:25.060 Make me mad.
00:02:25.960 Yeah, it might.
00:02:27.300 Bring it.
00:02:28.100 All right, here it is.
00:02:29.180 Andy, in the episode of Productivity, you mentioned that people who say that they grind it out 24-7 are lying or stupid or somehow, you know, they're just like have psychological problems or exaggerating.
00:02:42.740 You said that it's not just about hustling, but hustling smart.
00:02:46.400 And you explained that successful people who are super productive accomplish more between, you know, like 5 in the morning and 10 than most other people, and they can just screw around the rest of the day.
00:02:55.460 I mean, paraphrasing what you've said.
00:02:57.880 But then, in a Periscope, you agreed with Gary Vee, who said 9 to 6 won't cut it, and that you did have to put in the hours to hustle, et cetera.
00:03:06.520 So, is the MFCEO just MF contradicting himself?
00:03:11.080 Please explain this to your loyal listeners.
00:03:13.760 Sincerely, Vaughn from St. Louis.
00:03:17.220 Oh.
00:03:19.020 Vaughn.
00:03:20.440 I'm just, listen, I'm just holding your feet to the fire, man.
00:03:24.240 Hey, man, if you really paid attention.
00:03:26.360 You'd be able to answer that.
00:03:27.480 That's right.
00:03:28.380 No, actually, actually, we've actually gotten a couple emails asking about that.
00:03:33.440 Okay.
00:03:33.680 So, I thought I'd throw that question out.
00:03:36.600 It's popular.
00:03:37.700 Everybody likes to talk about, oh, I work harder than everybody.
00:03:42.440 I stay up 24 hours a day and work and never fucking sleep.
00:03:46.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:03:47.120 And what I always say to that is this.
00:03:49.260 You're either very ineffective, very inefficient, or you're stupid and you can't get it done in a normal, efficient amount of time.
00:03:56.720 I stand by that a million percent.
00:03:58.900 Now, Gary Vee, who is awesome, by the way.
00:04:02.380 Come on our show, Gary.
00:04:03.520 Yeah, Gary.
00:04:04.440 What the fuck?
00:04:05.740 All right?
00:04:06.040 Gary, who is awesome, by the way, he posted a meme that I reposted on Instagram that said, 96 just isn't going to get it done.
00:04:18.980 What he means by that, I know exactly what he means by that.
00:04:22.940 Anybody who's successful knows what he means by that.
00:04:26.460 And people like to take the literal stance of, oh, I've got to work.
00:04:31.320 That means I've got to work 9 to 9 or 9 to 12 to get it done.
00:04:36.820 And their little pea brain thinks that we're talking about just putting in more time.
00:04:42.940 Okay?
00:04:43.580 Putting in more time is not the answer.
00:04:47.660 All right?
00:04:48.020 And that's not what he's talking about.
00:04:49.840 Is it something you have to do?
00:04:51.900 No fucking question.
00:04:53.640 I worked from the time we started our company for seven years.
00:04:58.240 I worked six days a week, 12 fucking hours.
00:05:01.140 And you know what else I did after that?
00:05:02.740 I went and worked other jobs.
00:05:04.900 Okay?
00:05:05.360 That's what you have to do.
00:05:06.680 But I also own a retail store.
00:05:08.600 I didn't own some sort of company that could be run online.
00:05:12.460 I had to actually physically be there.
00:05:14.140 So I had to put the physical time in.
00:05:16.060 But what he's saying in that comment, in that meme, and if you want to see the meme,
00:05:20.460 you can go check out Gary V on Instagram or go to my page.
00:05:24.060 It's going to stay up.
00:05:25.900 What he means by 9 to – his meme, I'm going to read it exactly verbatim so I don't fuck it up here.
00:05:32.140 Do you want me to talk while you look it up?
00:05:33.400 No, no, no.
00:05:33.760 I got it right here.
00:05:34.320 I can fill space.
00:05:35.080 Because we got – this meme got a lot of attention because people – because I do always say,
00:05:40.920 hey, anybody who's saying you got to work 26 hours out of 24 is full of shit.
00:05:45.620 And they are and I stand by that.
00:05:47.580 It's very bad advice.
00:05:49.280 Okay?
00:05:50.540 Do you have to put in a time?
00:05:52.040 Fuck yeah, you got to put in the time.
00:05:53.480 But dude, don't act like – I mean we get it, right?
00:05:55.900 You work harder than everybody.
00:05:57.240 We get it.
00:05:57.800 Right.
00:05:57.940 And that's what everybody on this – on the internet these days likes to brag about.
00:06:02.960 Right.
00:06:03.080 So here's the meme.
00:06:04.400 It's from Gary V.
00:06:05.820 It says, people like to claim that they work hard, but they're not putting in the time.
00:06:13.040 9 to 6 just isn't enough.
00:06:16.020 Okay?
00:06:16.440 Now let's talk about what putting in the time means.
00:06:19.120 Is Gary V talking about putting in the time?
00:06:21.700 So staying until 10 o'clock at night doing the same fucking thing that you did from 9 to 6?
00:06:26.240 No.
00:06:27.260 What he's talking about is you putting in the time of a personal investment, learning about new things,
00:06:34.440 educating yourself, learning new skills, networking, improving your brand, making videos,
00:06:39.720 doing everything you need to fucking do that goes outside of the 9 to 6 duties of your job.
00:06:47.580 There's working in the business and then there's working on the business.
00:06:51.700 All right?
00:06:52.740 When you're a small business and you first start up, let's say you do own a retail store
00:06:57.440 and let's say your hours are 9 to 6.
00:06:59.340 You are going to have to physically be there 9 to 6.
00:07:02.860 That's the reality.
00:07:05.380 What are you going to do besides that?
00:07:07.220 If you show up and clock it at 9 and you clock out at 6 and go home and barbecue fucking hot dogs,
00:07:12.140 guess what?
00:07:12.980 You ain't ever going to make it.
00:07:14.500 It's what you do outside that time that determines whether or not you're going to be successful.
00:07:19.720 It's the books you read.
00:07:20.920 It's the calls you make.
00:07:22.360 It's the emails you send.
00:07:23.840 It's the shows you go to to learn about your industry.
00:07:26.960 It's all these other things outside the 9 to 6.
00:07:30.160 And that's what that fucking meme is talking about.
00:07:32.340 And everybody likes to be literal in their point of the finger.
00:07:36.320 And it's not – I know you asked this question because you know that people were doing that.
00:07:40.440 And you probably saw the comments.
00:07:41.400 But the reality is if your brain is not able to comprehend what he's talking about, you probably shouldn't even fucking – you should probably just clock in and clock out and go home and barbecue.
00:07:52.880 Right.
00:07:53.480 That's just for you.
00:07:54.400 The reason that people get confused is because it's amazing to me how people don't have an understanding to put things in context.
00:08:01.520 No, because everybody Vaughn is – first of all, they don't have – in this particular case, I agree with you.
00:08:09.260 They don't – and sorry for interrupting you there.
00:08:11.080 We – they don't have the context.
00:08:13.820 Okay?
00:08:14.040 They don't look at things in context.
00:08:15.900 They look at things in literal nature.
00:08:17.940 Second of all, what they also have is this idea that there's – you've got to have balance.
00:08:25.340 Okay?
00:08:25.900 And they talk about this work-life balance.
00:08:28.880 And they want to have their fucking cake and they want to eat it too.
00:08:32.340 And everybody knows that life just doesn't fucking work that way.
00:08:35.920 Okay?
00:08:36.360 They want to clock in from 9 to 6.
00:08:38.320 They want to go home and play Xbox and smoke a fucking joint and order a fucking pizza.
00:08:45.260 And they want to come out looking like Richard Branson or fucking Donald Trump.
00:08:48.620 And it's just not what happens.
00:08:49.940 Right.
00:08:50.300 You know what I'm saying?
00:08:51.120 Absolutely.
00:08:51.680 That's the mentality here.
00:08:53.640 And then when you tell them that they don't do that, they think, well, that's not fair.
00:08:57.060 I'm going to lose my work-life balance.
00:08:59.420 Well, no fucking shit you are.
00:09:01.200 That's called being a fucking entrepreneur.
00:09:03.140 That's called being successful.
00:09:04.460 You better fucking figure out that you're not going to have very much balance for a long time.
00:09:08.580 But guess what?
00:09:10.040 20 years from now or 15 years or 10 years when you find that success you're looking for, you get all the fucking balance you want.
00:09:16.820 Right.
00:09:17.820 You get all the balance you want.
00:09:19.040 You get to do whatever you want.
00:09:20.160 You get to go wherever you want.
00:09:21.560 Nobody tells you what to do.
00:09:23.440 And so for 10 years you live in this fucking bubble of no balance.
00:09:27.760 But they look at it like, okay, I'm going to work my 40 hours, which is a fucking joke by the way.
00:09:33.100 I'm going to work my 40 hours, and then I'm going to go home, and I'm going to hold my girlfriend's hand for fucking the rest of the time.
00:09:40.320 Or I'm going to snuggle with her or whatever the fuck they think.
00:09:43.860 And they think that that's balance.
00:09:46.100 All right?
00:09:47.680 That is not balance.
00:09:49.360 Balance is – well, that's one way to look at balance.
00:09:52.600 If you're an average – if you're a regular dude who wants to be a regular person and go through life being regular, this isn't a podcast for you.
00:10:00.380 This is an entrepreneurial success-based podcast.
00:10:05.260 I am not knocking people to do that.
00:10:07.780 That is their choice.
00:10:09.020 So please pay attention to the context of our podcast.
00:10:14.260 All right?
00:10:14.600 So when I say that's not balance, that is balance for certain people, and that's okay.
00:10:19.660 But for you, and I'm assuming you're listening for success, your balance idea should be, hey, I'm going to work my fucking ass off for the next five to ten years as hard as I can.
00:10:28.820 I'm going to give everything I can.
00:10:29.880 I'm going to give every hour.
00:10:30.760 I'm going to give every ounce.
00:10:32.000 Everything I eat, sleep, live, dream about is going to be fucking business and success.
00:10:37.780 And then guess what?
00:10:38.780 After the next, you know, ten years, I get to do whatever the fuck I want.
00:10:43.640 Right.
00:10:44.420 All right?
00:10:44.780 Right.
00:10:44.980 That's another way to look at balance.
00:10:47.340 Yeah.
00:10:48.460 For me, I think a better word instead of balance is rhythm and realizing that sometimes in your life you're going to have this intense, you know, two or three weeks of work.
00:10:57.340 And then you're going to be able to relax for a little bit and then go back to work and then relax.
00:11:02.280 But it's not really a balance.
00:11:03.440 Balance reflects an ideal that you're never going to have.
00:11:06.720 I think it's getting into a cycle that works for you.
00:11:09.320 Does that make sense?
00:11:10.100 Yeah, totally.
00:11:10.760 I get it 100%.
00:11:11.720 The reason people have this conflicting ideal about balance is because they're trying to fit their lives into the box somebody else is fucking defining.
00:11:19.880 You know?
00:11:20.280 Oh, I've got to do this between this time and this time or this time and this time.
00:11:23.900 Right.
00:11:23.980 You know, dude, some of the entrepreneurs I know that I talk to, they don't even work during the day.
00:11:28.060 They take the whole day off.
00:11:29.060 They work at night.
00:11:29.940 You know, it's all about figuring out what you need to do.
00:11:32.140 But the point of the matter is, is this.
00:11:34.440 Nine to six isn't going to cut it.
00:11:35.900 If you clock in like an average motherfucker, you're going to live like an average motherfucker.
00:11:40.120 That's the bottom line.
00:11:41.660 You know, if you go to work and you just put your time in like everybody else and go home, you have no right to expect success in an extraordinary fashion.
00:11:53.700 Because you're not doing anything extraordinary.
00:11:56.200 So, you know, the question is, do I contradict myself?
00:12:00.400 No, I don't contradict myself.
00:12:01.780 I just understand what he's saying.
00:12:03.880 You don't.
00:12:04.820 Yeah.
00:12:04.960 You know what I mean?
00:12:05.540 And that's what, that's the point.
00:12:07.260 You're saying I don't.
00:12:08.160 No, I'm saying whoever, write the comments and say that shit.
00:12:11.620 I get those comments all the time.
00:12:12.860 Anytime we talk about work, you know, it's like everybody wants to talk about how hard they work.
00:12:17.400 They don't, dude, reading should, reading constitutes work.
00:12:21.200 All right, reading a book to improve your business skills, that's work.
00:12:25.360 All right.
00:12:26.680 Work is not just when you're at work.
00:12:30.880 You know, grinding out is not just when you're at work.
00:12:35.640 Grinding out is reading to improve.
00:12:37.680 Grinding out is traveling to a trade show.
00:12:39.820 Grinding out is making phone calls, making, doing emails.
00:12:43.260 It's all these things that you have to do outside of your normal duties of working in the business to, to work on the business, to make it grow.
00:12:54.140 You know, the worst entrepreneurs I see are the ones who clock in like fucking regular workers and clock out and then they don't do shit.
00:13:01.580 Right.
00:13:02.060 And their business gets destroyed by people that do what I'm saying.
00:13:05.480 So when somebody like Gary Vaynerchuk says, oh, nine to six isn't going to cut it, he doesn't mean stay an extra six hours at your job.
00:13:14.820 He means go out and learn shit and get fucking better.
00:13:18.120 Put the effort in.
00:13:19.360 That's what he's talking about.
00:13:20.580 Right.
00:13:21.100 So another way to say it is you've got two extremes.
00:13:23.640 You've got people who want to be entrepreneurs, but they have a nine to six mentality.
00:13:29.280 That's right.
00:13:29.480 And you're saying that's wrong.
00:13:30.880 But then on the other extreme, you're, you're having people who say that, yeah, if I just put in a 70 or 80 hour work week, everything's going to be great.
00:13:38.380 And to those people, you're saying, no, it's not just about the quantity of time.
00:13:42.960 It's how you use that time.
00:13:44.660 A hundred percent agree.
00:13:45.580 Okay.
00:13:45.860 Perfect.
00:13:46.420 All right.
00:13:46.840 Thank you for summarizing my rant.
00:13:49.960 You're welcome.
00:13:50.780 Well, I think that's it.
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00:15:01.260 All right, guys.
00:15:02.080 We will see you on Tuesday.
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00:15:09.080 I feel like the content comes out.
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00:15:17.900 All right, guys.
00:15:26.340 All I do is work, all I do is work, all I do is work, all I do is work.