Create Value, Create Opportunity, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO136
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In this episode of The Momfucking Ceeo Project, I share my thoughts on the massive amount of people out there selling courses and info products, and why you should not be spending your money on them.
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what is up guys you're listening to the mf ceo project i'm andy i'm your host and i am the
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motherfucking ceo guys today is thursday thunder if this is your first time joining us uh it's
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where you get punched right in the fucking balls okay i'm gonna tell you the truth i'm gonna tell
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you what is on my mind and today i have something really cool to share with you um
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before i get into that i want to address something that uh has been coming up in my inbox
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quite often uh it has to do with my thoughts on quote unquote courses or info products or the
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instagram universities whatever the fuck you want to call them uh you know i made a couple posts
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basically dogging out you know the the guys who are out there uh saying passive income and selling
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you a program uh and you know selling insta core info courses and all the shit that you could buy
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and i want to share my thoughts on that real quick number one i'm not against courses okay if someone
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is writing a course that can bring you real fucking experience and teach you real lessons that you
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should uh you know or that you can learn from and skip a lot of the hard periods of your journey being
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an entrepreneur that's awesome that's something that we have not had uh really before outside of
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guys like maybe tony robbins when i was growing up if i could have went and bought a course from
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somebody who built uh a 50 100 a billion dollar six billion dollar business i would have bought all
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of them every single one and you should too because you spend a thousand dollars on a course
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and you learn one fucking useful skill that skill is going to save you tens and probably hundreds of
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thousands of dollars over the course of your life not and not only that it's going to save you time
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but here's what i am against what i'm against is motherfuckers on the internet that we have
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50 fucking million of them right now popping up that are 19 fucking years old life coaches okay how
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the fuck can you be a life coach at 19 fucking years old you haven't lived any fucking life you
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barely are in into puberty okay uh you barely got hair in your fucking nutsack and you're out there
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telling people how to fucking live no i don't think so okay you haven't earned the right to sell your
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fucking advice yet the other thing i'm against is anybody selling a course on anything that
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has to do with business that haven't built a fucking business okay if you haven't gone out
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there and built a fucking business you don't have the right to sell people shit about building a
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business i don't give a fuck how many books you read i don't care how much you fucking think you
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might know but i'm going to tell you right now actually building a business is not as simple as
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reading a book about building a business and then reciting those lessons to somebody and charging
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them money okay and you as the fucking potential consumer need to be smart enough to know the
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difference between guys that have actually built things and there's plenty of them out there who
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have who have built things and they sell courses damon john sells a course grant cardone sells a course
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damon john's built six billion dollar company uh grant cardone has a fucking third of a billion
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dollar real estate portfolio and one of the best salesmen in the world okay there's plenty of dudes
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out there who have done real shit that are selling courses for you to learn from but there's far far far
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more 99 of these people out there selling you fucking info shit and saying shit like oh be a millionaire
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and you're fucking 22 uh you know live your dreams at 25 uh passive income you don't have to do
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anything blah blah blah blah blah look man there's only fucking two kinds of passive income in this
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world one is real estate and the only way it becomes passive is if you put 20 fucking years into it
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and you've put a lot of time and a lot of effort and a lot of money into becoming an expert
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and then you sit back and collect and it's still not passive because you have to fucking pay attention
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so that's the closest thing i could think to a legit passive income the only other way to
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have a passive income is to make a fucking course and sell it to motherfuckers that don't know any
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better and sit on the beach and fucking work at your computer and pretend like you're making passive
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income and then sell people on the idea of making passive income which is a complete fucking lie
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there's no difference between that and stealing in my book so when i get verbal and get aggressive
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about fucking passive income and info courses and motherfucking on the internet selling fucking
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997 dollar programs for you to get rich that's the shit that i don't like i don't like that shit i'm not
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down with that shit i don't stand with that shit i don't agree with that shit there's too many
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credible people do incredible things out there that you can learn from and for you to be spending money
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with people like that okay and you need to be smart enough to do your research what is this person
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built what have they created let's see their brand let's see their buildings they fucking own let's see
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uh their businesses they own let's see and learn from people who have done real shit that's an amazing
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thing because those guys could teach you the real fucking skills that it becomes that it needs that you
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need to have to become an entrepreneur now with that being said understand we live in a time of
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information where information is more available than any other time on earth and that's a tremendously
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awesome thing but you have to be a you have to be aware of the predators out there that are going
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to sell you things that have never done anything and there's far more of those than there are credible
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people right now and that bubble is going to burst by the way because people are going to
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smarten up but I don't want any of you motherfuckers listening to this spending one fucking dollar
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with somebody like that research who they are look at their business is their business actually
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successful are they who they say they are do they live the way they say they live is it did they
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really build a business or are they just a rich fucking kid with some money with his parents car
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selling you something in my mind that's not building a business okay so and and here's the
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thing let's say you guys right now you're in a hurry to make money and you decide oh well Andy
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these motherfuckers sell information I'm gonna jump on board sell information to make some money
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okay is it worth ruining your name for the rest of your fucking life ruining your credibility for the
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rest of your life ruining everything that you're going to do from here on out to build something that's
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going to make you money for fucking a couple months or is it better to build go build a real
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fucking business you want to make you want to you want to make fucking info products go and build a
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real fucking company and then sell how you did it there's nothing wrong with that that's a lot of
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value millions of dollars of value in some of the information out there okay but don't be the
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motherfucker who who who tries to scam people I hate that shit so that's my thoughts on the info
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fucking game right now do your homework do your research support people that are doing real shit
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and and dude you know learn how to do it yourself so with that being said I've got this is a little
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bit different of a Thursday Thunder because normally I don't have any guests but I've got a couple guests
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here with me today uh that I want to talk to a little bit because they said something to me when
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they were a few minutes ago out in the lobby and this is kind of a spur of the moment thing for me
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to have them on but it resonated with me okay and I talk a lot about opportunity and taking initiative
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and making sure that uh you know you take the initiative to create value and and and make things
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happen for yourself and that's what these two guys did okay um they basically built me a fucking
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amazing amazing table okay it's it's this awesome table if you saw my snaps if you saw my instagram
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story you saw it uh it's totally custom it's it they have four to five hundred hours of creating I mean
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it's like art all right it's a symbolic conversation piece uh and they built this and they just said this
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to me outside because they wanted to bring it here so that they could have an opportunity to meet me
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all right now now I get fucking people asking me all fucking day long can we have a meeting can we
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sit down and have coffee can we do this can we do that no we can't you know why because you're not
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fucking bringing me any fucking value you're not taking the initiative if I really wanted to fucking
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meet somebody if I really wanted to fucking you know connect with somebody I would go to their
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fucking building and camp out until they fucking took my meeting but you motherfuckers think that people
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are just going to owe you something and say yes and they're not so what do these guys do like had
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they fucking emailed me six months ago and said hey we want a meeting I would have said fuck you
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but you know what they did they decided to fucking go out and build this awesome fucking table to get
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my attention not that it's saying you're going to buy my attention but they made an impact on me
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to where I said dude this is amazing that you guys did this and now I'm putting them on the
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fucking podcast because I want them to tell a little bit about this experience and you motherfuckers
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listening need to listen because these guys took initiative to create a situation where they could
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connect with me now they have my fucking cell phone number okay which I don't give to anybody
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half my fucking employees don't have it that's the truth all right and by the way don't be giving
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it out so tell everybody who you are where you're from and what you do so uh our names are Joe and
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Mike Mackey we're from Northwest Indiana get close up to the mic there you go don't be afraid to touch
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it oh okay yeah it's not a wiener that's a big point of a face scary um so we're from Northwest Indiana
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and um we grew up in the manufacturing industry so rapid prototyping 3d printing engineering so
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just to go back a little bit farther we grew up with an entrepreneur our father started his own
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business um when he was 28 years old and Joe and I have grown up around a guy that has been grinding
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for a long time and it's it's humbling to watch in a sense over the our span of our lifetime because
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those values that he instilled in us to to work hard I mean for instance when we were kids it was
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like hey you want to go make money well go shovel some fucking driveways okay that's how I grew up
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yeah yeah right so go shovel some driveways okay dad so we would go out and we could barely pick up a
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shovel because we were so small but you know what we went out and we shoveled driveways and we made
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some money and it was awesome and that was I'd say that's the beginning and you know growing up
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around a guy that you could see how hard it was for him and how much of a fight it was for him to
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to be uh to be an entrepreneur I remember he just sent me a picture of a Christmas list I wrote when
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I was six years old and on the Christmas list it was like uh some Legos uh a bike and please give my
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dad a paycheck and dear Santa please give my dad a paycheck you know we've been experiencing that and
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watching that our whole lives see that that that see that goes exactly what the fuck I'm talking
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about a minute ago with the info millionaire bullshit like people think that entrepreneurship
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is this fucking glorified awesome thing when in reality 99 percent of entrepreneurship is that
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you don't know where your fucking next dollar is coming from you're stressed out you're working
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your balls off and you really are in a position to where it's it's terrifying all the time to the
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point where your whole family fucking knows it's terrifying you know that's what entrepreneurship is
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and that's why it pisses me off that I see all these motherfuckers taking pictures of their fucking
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parents cars and then selling you a program on how to succeed it's bullshit bullshit yeah yep so keep
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going so anyways you know we grew up around that and it was you know it was awesome because we learned
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a lot of things from him and Joe and I both worked or it worked for him for a long time we developed
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skills in that business and you know we've um you know we're hopefully someday gonna take it over
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um if we could prove ourselves and uh Joe and I have been entrepreneurs at heart our whole lives
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it was always hey we're gonna take over dad's business when we grew up and dad said no you're not
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gonna take over my business you're gonna buy my business you're gonna work for this business
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and that those those things were they've been stuck in our heads since you know since day one um I'd
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say it's in our blood at this point and Joe one day you know we like I said we've kind of we do our
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own things in life right now and Joe and I like I said we're entrepreneurs so hold on let me so what
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do you guys do for like day jobs right now you work at a family business Joe still works for my dad
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actually uh I went on to heavy equipment for the last couple years okay so you're as a mechanic okay
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so these dudes are out working regular jobs all right like blue collar fucking jobs which by the
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way my favorite thing to do is to run heavy equipment boom people don't understand that they
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don't they don't get it until they get in a freaking dozer they don't believe it yeah and I tell people
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that and they laugh at me but I've got my own equipment out the farm it's like it's like a huge
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fucking sandbox so uh so anyway I love that but these guys are out working fucking blue collar jobs
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all right but they have entrepreneurial heart and they have entrepreneurial drive so now they're getting
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into a new uh a new business together which is is and tell them about how you guys kind of got the
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idea to do that how you got into it Joe go ahead so um essentially we were uh sitting around one night
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and we you know we listened to this podcast and we listened you know there's a few other brands we
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support that have really inspired us and I said Mike you know I want to I want to build a table well
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tell them how you came across me you came across through through Rob Bailey okay so shout out to Rob
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yeah shout out to Rob Bailey so these guys support a really good friend of mine um well two really
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good friends Rob and Dana Lynn Bailey yeah and they're tremendous people and they're really good
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friends of mine so and that's how you came across me yep okay because I got a funny story about how I
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met Rob it's very similar to your guys's story so essentially we started building this table for Rob
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and it um originally I said Mike let's just buy it and we'll we'll engrave it and we'll send it out to
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him and Mike's like no man we're gonna build this thing and I said all right so it took us
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not nothing short of a year and a half of trial error learning just wait wait wait so you're saying
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you're telling me is this what I'm hearing right is you had no fucking clue what you were doing no
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okay and you decided okay hey we're gonna fucking do this yeah and you went out and learned the skills
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yep holy shit it's revolutionary thought process so we uh we finally I mean it was
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so wait you're telling me that you went out and fucking learned nobody came and showed you no
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nobody came and held you we had some help from YouTube okay so you actually went to Google and
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YouTube and learned the skills you needed oh yeah yeah wow wow seriously like this shit
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I'm I'm being sarcastic because people don't fucking understand how fuck how this works and you guys
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clearly get it which is I'm giving you credit so I'm being sarcastic but yeah we appreciate it
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by the sarcasm yeah no no we get it all right cool so um we built this table and I mean like I said
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it took us a year and a half and that was that was a lot a lot of late nights and we fighting a
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lot of curse words lot lie out yeah yeah a lot of cursing at each other yeah um Mike threw a table
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leg at me one time yeah but did he hit you no I didn't uh what the fuck it's kind of the
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general direction um but after you know we started on that building that table we said well you know
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we have more than one person that's inspiring us let's build them tables as well so we started
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building a table for Andy too and um I think that was probably it's probably a year into it we decided
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to because we were honing the craft a little bit better a little more confident right we basically
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had Rob Bailey's table complete at that point okay just a few things we were finishing up so um
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we ended up delivering the table to Rob and the look on Rob and Dana's face when we brought that table
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to them for absolutely free yeah it was one of the most fulfilling experiences of our lives right
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because they were just so blown away by what we did and that just got us so we were so fired up I mean
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it was I mean it was just it was literally a year and a half's worth of work that we handed over and
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we blew someone's minds and that I think that that sense of fulfillment that we achieved after all that
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work was awesome right and then through that Rob um he said he's like we told Rob we're like you know
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we got a table for Andy and he said you know Andy and I are good friends he's like you know I can I
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can hook you you know I can I can call his brother Sal right now and we can set this up so we said
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all right that sounds good right right right we weren't expecting that at all and um so thank
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you Rob and Dana for that and uh he says um you know next day he texts us he says here's Sal's number
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and um you know set it up with him so like okay we got you know the vice president yeah yeah the
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vice president of first forms number now and uh so we text Sal and he didn't text us back for a day
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it was like it's like yeah it's like it's like texting a hot girl not knowing like you know
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like let's get it yeah you shoot the text out you're like oh shit did I Sal's waiting the two days
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yeah we're like we like we text him as soon as we got the number like I'm like you know we're hungry
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but we just don't we just don't want to sound too desperate though yeah it's like yeah I got
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yeah I texted Mike that I was like wait it out wait it out yeah should we text him should we text
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him again that's funny so Sal text us back he says you know what time you want 12 30 on Friday
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yeah be there yeah we said all right we'll be there yeah and we showed up we drove five hours
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yeah from northwest Indiana we would have come here anyways by the way yeah it wouldn't matter
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we would have actually just showed up at your front door but like you know that that's what we did
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rob right yeah essentially that we showed up at rob's gym and we were like so we've got a package
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a big one the girl yeah and the girl at the front desk is like all right what's in the package we're
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like a table and she's like oh okay like yeah that's funny so so so here so like there's so much
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good things to point out here that we're talking about um first off okay these guys were thinking
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about how to provide value and how to make impact they weren't thinking about how to fucking make
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money all right they said how can we how can we show some appreciation to some people who have
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inspired us who have taught us and helped us uh you know get our minds right and rob's very good too
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if you're not if you if you know rob he's super motivating guy i've been trying to get him on the
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podcast it just schedules haven't worked out yet um but uh you know these guys weren't thinking like
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how can we sell these guys some shit or how can we uh you know make money they were thinking like okay
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how can i fucking show people that i appreciate them how can i provide value and in the process of
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providing the value they went out and learned a whole new fucking skill set they didn't learn how to make
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these amazing table or know how to make these amazing tables because their dad made these amazing
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tables or their uncle made these amazing tables no they said we're gonna fucking make these amazing
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pieces of art and we're gonna learn how to do it through the fucking old google machine and youtube you
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just heard it from their mouths dude you got i say it all the time the tools are there if you fucking
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if you're willing to put in the work then they went and spent what they told me 400 to 500 hours
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building my table trial and error trial and error you know you don't know how you're gonna get
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there what it's gonna make andy joe joe literally i watched him one night take the table and just
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smash it to pieces and that was like you know because it was right it was rev after rev it's
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like no it does not no it's not right no it's not right and joe just smashed it one night
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and like it was a lot of work man yeah it was a lot of work yeah but dude that is what
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entrepreneurship is like i have people talk like today i'm getting a lot of questions on uh
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on instagram and i'm having people be like well how do you know how do you know it's gonna work
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you don't know it's gonna work what you do is you go out and you fucking do your best and then when
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you fuck it up and you recognize that it's not the best you can do you trash it you start over and
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you go do what you learned when we showed up the warhouse gym it was pure luck that rob and dana
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were there that weekend yeah it was pure luck yeah there was it wasn't luck it was meant to be
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yeah dude you know what i believe in that i believe in the universe aligns itself people have pure
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intentions and you know uh now what we have here is we have two young guys what you're 27 how old are
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you um 25 okay we have two two young guys millennial generation guys who work regular jobs who are now
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transitioning into a company from skills that they developed out of pure appreciation for other
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people's hustle and dude that is what fucking entrepreneurship is entrepreneurship is not
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you possess these skills you start out with a fucking purpose i want to accomplish this not i want to make
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millions of dollars in 12 months or i want to become a millionaire in a fucking year no i want to
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become the best fucking custom furniture maker on earth that that and we make a furniture that is
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conversation piece it's not it's not uh just a table that you buy a fucking coffee book or a coffee
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table book and put on no the whole table is a conversation piece dude if you guys see the table dude
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that the legs they made out of these custom made sledgehammers and then they put wings on it
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to represent uh the success fairy and then the hard work you know there's no such thing as success
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fairy and the only way to get somewhere is to work and then the the top of the table uh has these
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coasters that all have quotes of mine we'll put pictures up so you guys can see it dude tell people
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where where they can follow you um you can follow us on instagram that's where we're most active okay
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at brocker that's b-r-o-k-k-r underscore wood underscore working okay so at b-r-o-k-k-r underscore
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wood underscore working yes sir dude you guys need to follow these guys and check out their shit
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and they're just getting their their business going so you guys like dude if you want a badass piece of
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custom furniture commission i i'm sure they will fucking do it am i right yes you know like so go check
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out their shit and support these guys because these guys represent real entrepreneurship not
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these motherfuckers on the internet telling you oh they're buy my fucking course on how to make a
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million dollars a month buy my course on how to fucking be rich and ball out no pay attention to
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these kind of guys who are going out and learning fucking skills that are useful and come from a place
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of purity because they want to create something that's impactful that's how you make money okay
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that's how you build a career you build a career and you build a business you build an income by
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becoming the best at what you fucking do and i could tell you right now that is the nicest fucking
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table i've ever seen in my life so if you guys want to fuck yeah dude i mean it you know and the
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reason i wanted to put you guys on was because the the lesson of you want to take initiative to meet
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someone that you want to know dude you've got to go over the top you know you're not going to connect
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with somebody who's on a different level than you are by just sending them a fucking email or sending
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them a fucking note you know i mean and dude i appreciate the notes and the letters and all that stuff
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but dude if you really want to connect and build a relationship you've got to figure out how to go over
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the fucking top with somebody which brings me to my story of how i met rob because this is what's
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really funny so when i wanted to so three or four years ago when i first met rob rob was you know
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dana was winning the olympia and they were fucking at the top super popular like had millions of people
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coming at him all the time dude i just wanted to meet this dude and have a relationship with him i
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didn't know him i didn't really know any my buddy curtis knows him and uh and and i didn't know him so
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like i i just wanted to know him because i'm like dude this guy is fucking cool like i watch his
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videos just like you guys did same thing rob all right yeah rob yeah same thing with rob yeah like
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i'm watching this shit i'm like dude this motherfucker is badass like i just want to be
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friends with this dude and uh i don't want anything from him i just want to know him and uh so dude i
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fucking had the dudes out in the warehouse put put a whole fucking palette of first form product
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together like an entire palette and all our gear everything and i sent it to him with a note and i
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said hey bro you know i know you don't know who the fuck i am and i know you got a million people
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coming at you all the time but this is just a this is just a token of my appreciation for everything
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that you guys are doing and the gratitude uh that i have for the content and the shit that you guys are
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doing i resonate with it and that's how i fucking met rob rob called me back and he's like uh
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dude thank you bro like what do you want i'm like i don't want anything like you know like i just
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wanted to say that and like you know we did we we came close to to actually uh bringing them on to
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first form as athletes and then uh they we came to the idea that like dude we just were we were more
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him and i both would rather just be friends than be business partners because whenever you start mixing
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business it's you don't know how shit's gonna go right so like we just decided that uh that we
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were gonna be boys and dude he's one of my best fucking friends i talked to him nearly every day
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and uh you know that's how i fucking met him it's the same way you guys met me you know what i'm
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saying and so if you guys are out there want you know you want to connect you want to mentor don't
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fucking ask them to mentor you dude you gotta make it fuck you gotta make it you know unignorable
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like i don't even know if that's a fucking word but i'm gonna say it's a word you know what i'm
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saying like yeah you've got to make such an impact it's impossible to fucking deny the impact
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and that's what i want you know wanted to point out to you guys like dude and i'm not saying come
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fucking make me a table or do all this shit because like to be honest i don't have the time to have
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those kinds of relationships because i'm so busy with my work but like there's other guys out there
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that you want to connect with there's people in your community you want to get to know there's guys
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that are leaders in your community it could be a local business exactly you want to local it could
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be a local business in every single area of this country right now they're because i always get
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people they're like dude will you be my mentor i'm like no because i don't do that like i don't have
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time to do that so but there's people in your area right now who have who are where you want to be
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okay who aren't mentoring anybody doing a podcast doing a youtube show which by the way if you guys
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haven't gone and subscribed to my youtube channel andy frisella and you know we start the
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frisella factor next week so we're gonna start that new youtube show i talked about last week
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uh next week so go subscribe to youtube but these guys aren't doing all that content so they have
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more freedom to to talk to you and dude most business guys they're flattered by that because
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it's it's validation of their success when people look up to them so dude figure out a way to make an
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impact with those guys and find somebody who is in your local area who is where you want to be and
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and dude fucking do something to get their fucking attention don't write them an email
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we get a million emails a day nobody fucking cares do something over the top and like like guys more
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than anything like i mean i love the table dude it's amazing and it literally is the best fucking
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table i've ever seen but like dude i appreciate the fucking hustle dude like that that means as much
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to me as the table so thank you guys so much for that for bringing that in thank you andy yeah
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thanks for everything you do man seriously i'm bro look man it's i do the shit i do for guys like
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you who are going to go out and do shit you know what i mean and uh so seeing you guys come here
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today and and meeting you guys and seeing and hearing this story that's why i put you on the
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podcast because it's like that is that's why i do this i don't do this so you can go out and try
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to fucking make a trillion dollars in one one year like dude i hope you do make a trillion dollars
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but it's going to take time it's going you're going to have to learn the fucking skills and you're
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going to have to put in the investment of work and you know all this bullshit that we see on the
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internet nowadays guys is just that it's bullshit it's people preying on your fucking emotions of
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wanting to get rich now and guys there just isn't a way to do that okay you're going to have to put
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in the time you're going to have to put in the investment to learn the skills you're going to have
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to put in the patience to earn these things and if you do that you're willing to do that you'll
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eventually get where you want to go but every time you buy into somebody's bullshit or somebody's
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quick fix or all the shit that i talked about earlier in the podcast that's that's another
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week or another day or another month however long you spend fucking with it that you're not going to
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get back that's taking you further away from where you want to be if you just put your fucking head
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down and do it the right way so guys thank you so much for coming on um i really really fucking
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appreciate the table and and and even more so i appreciate the initiative and the hustle so
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you guys are setting a good example if you guys tell everybody where to follow you one more time
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so on we're on instagram at b-r-o-k-k-r underscore wood underscore working and how so if people want
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to fucking commission a table order a table what's the best way for them to get in touch with you
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they go through if you're on the instagram page go through messenger there's a link to our website
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okay go to the website and uh you can you can email both of us dude yeah you guys will see on
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their on their page the kind of quality the work they do and and dude support these guys you know
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uh buy commission a table commission something for your office commission something for your home
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because these guys are fucking real entrepreneurs okay all right guys peace out i'll see you tuesday
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