REAL AF with Andy Frisella - Dinner Conversation with Sean Whalen, with Andy Frisella

00:00:00.000 What's up, guys? This is Vaughn Kohler, and you're listening to the MFCEO Project.

00:00:04.440 On a crisp evening in St. Louis, Missouri, at Jay Gilbert's Steakhouse,

00:00:08.520 one of the MFCEO's favorite restaurants in the Gateway City,

00:00:12.080 Andy Frisella and entrepreneur slash social media phenom Sean Whalen talked about everything from

00:00:18.080 what it means to be a man to what's wrong with America. Today, the two attempt to reconstruct

00:00:23.300 that conversation. Don't look for a clear outline, my friends. Just sit back and be offended or

00:00:29.160 enlightened. That's today's podcast.

00:00:42.280 Hey, guys. What's up? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy, and I am the motherfucking CEO.

00:00:51.420 I'm here with a couple good buddies of mine. You guys all know Vaughn the Impaler,

00:00:57.640 a.k.a. DJ God. What's up, buddy? I thought you were going to say Sean and Tyler were your buddies.

00:01:04.520 Oh, I was going to. I was just tagging along. You've been elevated to buddy. I appreciate that.

00:01:08.260 All right. Congrats. Thanks, man. I'm also here with my homeboy, Sean Whalen,

00:01:12.180 straight out from Utah. I would ask you how many wives. That's like the straight up Utah joke.

00:01:16.820 It is the Utah joke. How many wives do you have? But I asked you that last time. Yeah,

00:01:20.180 I don't know how many I've got. It depends on the day of the week. Yeah.

00:01:22.800 So since I'm out of original jokes, Vaughn said in the intro, because I just heard him

00:01:31.200 do it, that you would be either offended or enlightened. And I would argue that there's

00:01:39.720 a lot of things that people should be offended about. But it's most of the things that they're

00:01:45.660 not offended about. You know, most of the things that people are offended about today are the things

00:01:50.400 they shouldn't be offended about. And some of the things that they aren't offended about,

00:01:54.740 they should be like why you let your kid go home with a fucking 17th place trophy and tell him

00:02:01.240 he did a good job. You should be fucking offended about that. Right. Like about your own parenting

00:02:05.820 skills. All right. I mean, recreating the dinner conversation that we had basically came down

00:02:14.120 to like, you know, how can we make America a better place based around the idea of common

00:02:20.560 sense? Um, how about making the world a better place? Cause we do have international listeners.

00:02:28.540 Yeah, but it still comes down to common sense. Right? No, I know. But you said, how can we make

00:02:32.620 America a better place? Well, I'm going to worry about America first, you know, if you're international

00:02:38.840 listener, I appreciate you, but I live here in America. I'm gonna worry about us first and then

00:02:44.220 we'll worry about that. I'm offended by that, but just FYI, I'm offended by your beard now because

00:02:49.240 it's better than mine. What the fuck, dude? It's a skill. It's an art. So, so like we talk about all

00:02:57.860 these things that we talked about, like, Hey, we're going to go on this tour and we're going to do this

00:03:01.480 stuff and we're going to, you know, try to make, you know, this a better place for everybody.

00:03:05.860 And I would argue that like the number one thing that we need to understand as a whole is that

00:03:14.960 we're all on the same fucking team. You know what I mean? I feel like when we look on the internet,

00:03:19.180 we look on, on Facebook, Instagram, anywhere that people have a voice. It's so, it's so clear how much

00:03:26.660 the two political sides hate each other. And they, it almost feels like it's two different countries.

00:03:32.360 And, you know, we know Sean, you and I, we've talked about this a million times,

00:03:37.500 you know, that's the design of our system is to make people not see what's really going on so that

00:03:45.220 they can get an agenda basically imposed upon them so that things work a certain way for the benefit of

00:03:53.200 other people, which by the way, aren't us. Yeah. Um, so we talked to a lot of it, a lot of things,

00:03:59.020 man. But, you know, I, I think the, the first thing that people that we wanted to look at,

00:04:06.460 you know, would be like, dude, look at things from a common sense standpoint. Yeah. You know,

00:04:10.600 that's what I see. And that's what got me into your videos and into your following you before we

00:04:15.860 ever even met was like the common sense approach that you take to relating, you know, truths,

00:04:23.860 which is what they are. You know what I mean? And, uh, you know, we talked last night, we talked

00:04:28.280 about, we were at dinner, we talked about, you know, how most people will not stand up and say

00:04:33.180 the things they're feeling. They will not. There's a reason your page went from zero to 160,000

00:04:39.180 followers, which by the time this airs, it's going to be 200,000, you know, basically in a very short

00:04:45.300 time, there's a reason that this podcast launches and all of a sudden it's in the top five podcasts,

00:04:51.040 you know, in a competitive market. Yeah. Right. In a very competitive market. And the reason is,

00:04:56.640 is because I feel like both of us say things that other people think, but won't say, which

00:05:02.440 is what ultimately I feel is causing the problem that we have here in our country. Yeah. You know

00:05:07.760 what I mean? Dude, it's like a perfect example is when the whole, um, I did this videos is without

00:05:13.520 question the, the, the most viewed video that I've got, it's like 14 and a half million views or

00:05:17.280 whatever on, on Facebook. And I don't even know how many, um, tens of thousands on, on YouTube,

00:05:21.860 but it was during the Confederate flag deal. Right. And everybody was pitted like either on

00:05:26.800 one side or the other. All right. This Confederate flag is like historical and it, and it, and it

00:05:31.160 represents, you know, history or it's a racist bigoted object that we need to get rid of. And so

00:05:37.080 I did a video where I was like, look, here's the deal. Black and white politicians have been

00:05:41.700 walking in and out of government buildings in the South for 50 years with that flag flying and

00:05:48.080 nobody said shit. Oh, but Sean, no, no, no. Here's the deal. It hasn't made CNN. It hasn't

00:05:52.480 made Fox. It hasn't been on whatever, whatever we've been talking about the Ebola or whatever

00:05:56.560 the hell that frigging virus is called and all kinds of random crazy shit. Nobody's cared about

00:06:00.780 the Confederate flag. So I do a video and I say that and I'm like, no one gave a shit about the

00:06:04.780 Confederate flag. Well, it just so happens that a lion in Africa ends up getting shot about the same

00:06:08.900 time. Cecil, poor Cecil. And everybody changes their Facebook profile to Cecil the lion and

00:06:13.580 God save the lions and God bless the lions and damn the dentist and let's ruin his life and the

00:06:18.060 whole thing. And I'm just stepping back and I'm looking at this whole thing like for real, like,

00:06:23.100 like seriously, who gives a shit? No, none of, none of you who purport to now be these huge

00:06:27.940 ad, you know, animal advocates and all of these people that are genuinely concerned about the racist

00:06:33.020 nature of a flag. Nobody gave a shit. So I did a, you know, four minute video on the beach with my

00:06:37.760 shirt off, just freaking rolling, like saying, look, nobody gave a shit about the Confederate

00:06:41.420 flag up until the time that CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC told you to. And none of you gave a shit about

00:06:46.220 African lions until Fox, ABC, NBC, CNN told you so. And you know, when you talk common sense that

00:06:52.120 that video has been shared over a million times has, I don't even know how many, like 70 or 80,000

00:06:58.020 comments on it. And I think the reason isn't, and the reason that it sparked so much controversy

00:07:03.160 and so much conversation is simply based off the fact that like, that's what everybody was thinking,

00:07:08.480 but nobody had the ability or the desire or the platform to say it. And no, it was easier for

00:07:13.460 them to just join in and say, Hey, I'm going to make Cecil my profile. Exactly. It's going to be

00:07:18.100 really, really simple. It's going to be really easy. And let's, or, or not say anything at all.

00:07:21.580 And I think, you know, what, what, what, what the commonality of the conversation that we had last

00:07:25.260 night, I think really boils down to common sense and common sense is now becoming this foreign

00:07:30.220 conversation. Right. Meaning no one wants to, that sounds weird. It's the truth. What you said

00:07:35.740 earlier, like when, when, when truth becomes obscured, like that's when shit starts getting

00:07:41.940 scary. It's like, look, I'm looking out the window right now. It's a blue sky and there's some

00:07:45.440 freaking clouds in there. People will like want to debate that and spin that and say, well, it's

00:07:49.400 because of that. No, the truth is it's a blue sky with, with white clouds, but we don't want to say

00:07:55.080 white. We want to say this because we might get offended or we might, and now all of a sudden truth

00:07:58.660 becomes completely obscured. So the guy who speaks the truth speaks the common sense, which

00:08:04.160 is none of you gave a shit about Cecil the lion. None of you gave a shit about the Confederate

00:08:07.840 flag. All of a sudden, like people just go crazy over that one. They want to either, you

00:08:12.360 know, massacre you and completely like crucify you or jump on board and say, hallelujah, somebody's

00:08:18.280 fucking saying it. Right. And like, you know, the thing, it's kind of sad that we're at that

00:08:22.980 point, you know, to where saying basic shit of truth is, is remarkable. Yeah. It's become

00:08:31.980 this, it's, it's become like this phenomenal feat that when you say something, people, people

00:08:36.220 literally will either jump on board or, or it, it people literally, the society look, I

00:08:41.440 mean, stripping all of the, all the rhetoric away. It doesn't matter if you're a Republican

00:08:44.500 or Democrat, you're black, you're white, you're gay, you're straight. It doesn't freaking

00:08:47.060 matter. The reality is anything you say in this society today, it's going to offend someone,

00:08:53.220 which has been the way society has been since the beginning of time. Right. Right. There's

00:08:58.360 always sides to things that, you know, and that's, that's the fucking problem, dude, is

00:09:04.840 that society as a whole, all of you as a whole listening, all of us in this room are part of

00:09:12.200 the problem because we've allowed this to happen. And what, what we've allowed to happen

00:09:16.960 is for some person out there, I don't know who it was, but somebody spearheaded this movement

00:09:25.960 to try to take all the sharp objects, all the danger, all the offensive language, all the

00:09:32.820 offensive principles, all the offensive ideals and create this society that cannot hurt anybody's

00:09:39.960 feelings. It can't hurt, um, you know, it can't hurt you physically. It can't hurt you

00:09:45.600 mentally. Everybody, it becomes, you know, successful. Everybody wins and they teach us

00:09:51.740 this, this story that when in reality, and we touched on this last time we spoke, ends

00:10:00.040 up handicapping. They think they're doing the right thing. They think they're being like

00:10:06.100 Vaughn, what would you say? What word did you use for this? Uh, compassionate. They, they,

00:10:11.780 they think they're trying to take, they're doing their, their kids a favor by teaching

00:10:16.920 them all this shit and they're doing everybody a favor. But the reality of the world is not

00:10:21.500 that, right? It's just not that, you know? So they come up with this theory that all people

00:10:28.420 are going to exist in peace. All people are going to harmony. Everybody's going to love

00:10:31.760 each other. Everybody's going to have a similar level of success. Everybody cares about these

00:10:37.380 things and blah, and nobody's ever going to have their feelings hurt. And the reality

00:10:40.520 is, is that's not the way it is. So what you're doing by trying to take all the sharp

00:10:45.000 edges off of life for your kids is you're creating a situation where they're going to

00:10:50.760 run in there with, you know, thinking that nothing's going to hurt them and they're going

00:10:54.480 to get their fucking asses beat, you know? And so what's more compassionate preparing

00:10:59.720 your kids and society and your employees and your students and everybody you have

00:11:05.480 contact with for reality? Or is it more compassionate to lie to them and let them

00:11:11.620 go out and get destroyed by the earth? And I think that's where we're having a

00:11:15.320 problem now. Yeah. We talked about dude, since the dawn of creation, literally since

00:11:18.960 the dawn of creation, there have been winners and there have been losers. I mean, a

00:11:22.160 simple, a simple aspect of this we talked about last night is, is like hunting. Look, that

00:11:26.640 deer has got to die in order for me to eat. And there is a winner and there is a

00:11:30.900 loser. I won that battle of, of life and death, which is very real. Who decided that

00:11:35.980 law, by the way? Did the government decide the law of that? No, that's what God

00:11:39.520 created. I mean, this is the thing that's interesting and, and, and, and, and, and

00:11:42.480 DJ God. Yeah. Good job. Well played, sir. It's fascinating to me to think that like

00:11:47.800 people think that these rules and this has been since the dawn of creation, survival of the

00:11:53.220 fittest, there will always be, and there has always been a winner and there will always

00:11:57.400 be, and there has always been a loser. Plain and simple. Like I honor that deer for, for

00:12:01.880 giving me the opportunity to eat and to feed my family. But that deer's life came to an

00:12:05.980 end so that I could eat at the end of the day, like literally teaching your kids, you, you

00:12:12.080 all tied, you're all equal. You're all the same. I want my kid to know, Hey, you got your

00:12:15.880 asses beat. So here's what you can do to train, to practice, to get better so that now you

00:12:21.240 can beat some asses. I mean, fun to see your kid lose. No, it's not fun. I don't have

00:12:25.660 fucking kids. Okay. Because I'm responsible and I have kids for the sake of having them

00:12:30.980 because I needed to have them to feel validated. Will I have kids? I hope so. Okay. But so

00:12:36.740 all those people out there are going to say, Andy, do you know, do you have any kids? No,

00:12:39.360 I fucking don't get over it. But here's the reality. This is what you should do with your

00:12:42.360 kids. Yeah. Cause I'm just going to fucking be that guy. Quit fucking looking at your kids

00:12:47.060 and expecting them to be this fucking all-star fucking athlete, you know, cause this is

00:12:52.860 where it fucking starts on the soccer field, right? My kids, the best soccer player out

00:12:57.420 there. How do you get the best? Well, he's naturally born. Well, why is the coach not

00:13:02.220 playing him? I don't know. It's not fair. Well, do you think the coaches are playing him

00:13:06.800 because maybe you're lazy and you don't practice with your kid or maybe your kid just

00:13:09.940 flat out sucks. Well, but most of the time this happens because parents don't put in the

00:13:15.000 fucking work required for their kid to be competitive and then they expect their kid

00:13:20.000 to have an opportunity to play, which is where this whole fucking fucked up concept of everybody

00:13:25.660 gets a chance came from. No motherfucker. You earn your chance to win. It doesn't matter

00:13:31.280 if it's sports, relationships, friendships, business, whatever. You have to put in the

00:13:36.580 fucking work and understand that you're going to fail and then understand that it's your

00:13:42.500 responsibility to improve from that point forward. So when we have parents who let their kids,

00:13:49.240 you know, like you're talking about your son wrecking his dirt bike, is that fun to watch

00:13:53.480 your son wreck his dirt bike? No. You're like, fuck dude, that looks like a hurt. But the reality

00:13:57.300 is you're glad that he did it because you know that he's probably not going to wreck the same

00:14:01.920 way again, which will ultimately make him a better rider and a safer rider. Right. Right. You look at

00:14:07.580 the kids who we wrap them up from a really, really, really young age and bubble wrap and hope that

00:14:12.200 they never get picked on, hope they never get pushed, hope that they never fall off the monkey

00:14:15.220 bars. Don't climb to the top. Don't do this. Don't. I mean, at the end of the day, like I, I got, I got

00:14:21.260 smacked around a couple of times when I was a kid. I got picked on, if you will, quote unquote,

00:14:24.700 I fell off shit. I broke bones. I mean, I did dumb shit my entire life and I turned out. All right.

00:14:29.720 But yet we literally wrap kids and I'm a father. I've got three kids and I've got the same

00:14:34.200 opportunity to wrap them up in bubble wrap, make sure that they never get their feelings hurt,

00:14:37.260 make sure they never, you know, fall off their dirt bike, make sure they never whatever. But

00:14:40.740 the truth of the matter is, is one of my sons is not very athletic, but he can ride a dirt bike like,

00:14:46.360 like a son of a bitch. Right. And so I'm like, push it. I'm like, cool. Like go ride your dirt bike.

00:14:50.740 It's what he wants to do. And there's no, like when he plays sports, he's quarter, he, the coach kept

00:14:55.660 putting him in a quarterback. Okay. And I kid you not, I got it on video and I'm not going to share it with

00:15:00.080 anybody. Cause it's, you know, I'm going to pretend that it didn't happen, but it fucking happened.

00:15:03.340 My kid throws like every single time he gets in a quarterback, he throws an interception.

00:15:08.020 He just lobs the ball up there and God bless him. He likes to throw, he likes to play, whatever,

00:15:11.520 whatever. But I go to the coach. I'm like, coach, you need a new quarterback. It's not knocking my

00:15:16.100 son. I'm like, my son's not a good quarterback. Now my son's really freaking fast. So I'm like,

00:15:20.000 how about this coach? Why don't you give him the ball and let him run that shit? Oh, but we want to

00:15:23.680 have everybody have an equal opportunity to play whatever. And I said, I flat out told this coach, I'm like,

00:15:27.700 he's not a good quarterback. Have you seen the fact that he's thrown every fucking interception in this game?

00:15:32.600 When you put him in a quarterback, let him run the damn ball. I'm okay with that. He's okay with

00:15:37.820 that. I promise you, I'm not going to see you. I won't call Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or any other

00:15:41.720 freaking reverend. It's going to come over and bust your dick about like not playing my son equally.

00:15:46.000 Right. Like that's the reality is I flat out told my son, he's like, I dad, I don't like to be the

00:15:50.280 quarterback. I'm like, well, to tell your coach so that you can run the ball because every time they

00:15:54.900 give him the ball to run, his ass is a little freaking wheelhouse and he's in the end zone.

00:15:59.000 There's no, there's no shame in that. Like I'm okay with that, but we literally have built this

00:16:02.720 society. It's crazy to me. Like as a father, I mean, I watch these kids and I tell my kids flat

00:16:07.220 out, like all the other parents are like, Oh, you guys played so good. And it was a tie. And I'm

00:16:11.120 like, no, you got your ass kicked. You lost. And here's what you need to do to do better. Here's

00:16:15.260 what you like. My son falls off his dirt bike. He busts his ass on his dirt bike. I'm like,

00:16:18.600 what did you do wrong? He's like, I should have done this. I should have done that.

00:16:20.740 I don't know, man. Like if you think about it really hasn't been, I have my, I have my little

00:16:26.100 theory, but I like, I'm interested in yours. I don't, I'm not sure to be honest with you. I mean,

00:16:30.700 you look at it and it really hasn't been an ongoing thing. I mean, when I was raised, I mean,

00:16:35.480 I'm 36 years old, so it hasn't been like this hundred year problem kind of a deal.

00:16:39.740 I think within the last 10, 15 years, and I am not going to say that it's a Republican thing or a

00:16:44.220 democratic thing, or it's a social media thing or it's a media thing. I don't, I don't really know,

00:16:48.180 but there's something in the water. There's something going on. That's literally like

00:16:52.100 infecting. It's like a freaking, it's like an infection of just sensitivity in the marketplace,

00:16:57.460 in politics, in religion. And I mean, shit, shit. We talked about this earlier with religion. I mean,

00:17:02.460 good hell almighty. You say you can't talk about any, any more politics, sex, religion, money,

00:17:07.820 but the reality is that's the shit that actually matters in people's lives. And I think that's the

00:17:12.240 reason you and I are so polarizing is because we can talk about these issues in a really direct,

00:17:16.200 a really common sense way, which is why people listen and they pay attention and why our social

00:17:20.340 status, if you will, is growing. But dude, we're, we're, we're literally in a, in a, in a day and age

00:17:25.340 where you can't say anything about anybody. I'm the kind of dad where I'm like, if my kid lips off

00:17:32.580 in school, I want the teacher to freaking smack them upside the head. But heaven forbid, we even talk

00:17:38.240 to a child like wrong, you're, you're, you're, they will call the thing and all of a sudden,

00:17:43.980 like everybody cowers around and the principal cowers and they fire the teacher, even though

00:17:47.980 the kid deserved that shit. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like the, the, the idea

00:17:52.840 of political correctness. First of all, it's a bullshit term. It's totally, it's totally bullshit.

00:17:56.760 It doesn't exist. It's just some made up freaking term that people wrap around their sensitivity

00:18:01.060 where they're like, Oh, that's not politically correct. Well, what is politically correct?

00:18:04.380 Dude, you know, the thing is, is like when it comes to the kid thing, I think this all

00:18:09.740 started. I think the reason that this got going with the momentum that it, that it has

00:18:15.540 or has had is passive parenting. I feel like, I feel like parents buy their kid a fucking

00:18:23.500 Xbox and stick their kid in front of it. They don't play catch. They don't play football.

00:18:28.180 They don't fucking, you know, do the shit that like our dads and parents did, you know,

00:18:33.120 growing up, you know what I mean? And you know, I, I, I mean, that's, that's as a father,

00:18:40.040 I can, I can completely agree with that. You remember the, like the first, the case in

00:18:43.540 point, case in point, the Ferguson riots. You remember how, like when the kids came out

00:18:47.860 of high school, like at the end of the day, the school got out and who was the one who

00:18:51.300 started like the freaking riots and the kids, the high school kids were throwing bricks and

00:18:54.340 shit like that. I mean, they have from the helicopter, the helicopter was recording this

00:18:57.200 shit, right? See, I was raised in a day and age, probably the same way you were, which I don't

00:19:01.900 care about the cops. Like as a kid, I can run from the cops. What I'm terrified of is

00:19:06.520 the fact that my dad would see that shit on TV and be like, that's my little, that's

00:19:11.080 my boy. And my terror would come in, would, would be in coming home and my dad would whoop

00:19:16.740 my ass. It's the same thing that just happened with that girl. She's on in, in class on her

00:19:21.560 phone, right? The teacher says it's a no, I mean, look, the rules are you can't have a

00:19:26.320 freaking cell phone in class. Great. Everybody gets it. Everybody abides by it. Kids might not

00:19:29.980 like it too fucking bad. Put your phone away. The girl, the girl doesn't want to put her

00:19:33.340 phone away. The teacher asks, the teacher asks, teacher asks, she doesn't do it. She's

00:19:35.880 just a defiant little shit. Right. Well, the cop comes in and says, get your ass off the

00:19:39.200 phone, whatever, whatever the kid won't. So the kid, the cop picks this girl up, chucks

00:19:43.340 her across the room, arrest her, whatever the hell they do. Here's the deal. Everybody

00:19:46.260 can talk all day long about how the cop was excessive or this or anything. The part, the

00:19:51.240 point is you listen to the cops, but here's who needs to get their ass beat. Here's who

00:19:56.240 needs to get some common sense smacked into them. Mom and dad, mom and dad, that girl's

00:20:01.380 parents need to get their asses beat for the fact that they have raised the daughter

00:20:06.300 to could be completely defiant to any authoritative figure. We live in a day and age where like

00:20:11.480 literally there was a girl on Facebook the other day. God bless her. A mom, whatever,

00:20:15.920 whatever. Her, her, her little son was like 12 years old, my daughter's age. And he had a

00:20:20.420 beanie on that said, fuck the police. And she's over here explaining to the, to Facebook

00:20:25.020 world, how he's got freedom and how she loves the fact that, that he's expressive with his

00:20:30.040 views and whatever, whatever. This 12 year old little fricking shit is wearing a beanie

00:20:34.740 that says, fuck the police. He's 12 years old. It says, fuck the police. And she wants

00:20:41.300 to come into the conversation and be like, well, I'm allowing him to have his, um, his

00:20:45.140 liberties and whatever. You're just being a shitty ass parent. Exactly. Plain and simple.

00:20:49.460 Done and done. You were being a shitty parent who is literally not teaching your, so now

00:20:53.220 your kid, he's going to go to school and he's going to get told what to do. And the

00:20:57.080 guy, he's going to be like, fuck you to the cop. The cop's going to beat the shit

00:21:00.040 out of him, which is what the mom and dad should do. And what's going to happen. It's

00:21:03.440 going to be all over the news. And the mom's going to be like, Oh, I can't believe I beat

00:21:06.060 the shit out of my son. Well, it's because you told your son and allowed your son to have

00:21:09.400 the position of saying, fuck you to the police. She wants to defend him because she doesn't

00:21:13.280 want to feel like a failure. Exactly. Right. Exactly. And the little kid. And here's

00:21:16.360 what's interesting is I guarantee, I know the conversation is happening. I guarantee you

00:21:19.860 the kids coming home, you know, with all those little buddies and his little thing and they're

00:21:22.780 all on social media and they're on Facebook and they're all whatever, whatever TMZ and

00:21:25.820 all these other sites. And they're getting their little freaking balls all hairy and they're

00:21:29.040 just, you know, trying to be little men and yeah, they're trying to be little tough asses

00:21:32.760 and mom and dad don't want to do shit about it. Right. Mom and dad don't want to stand up

00:21:36.120 and be like, no kid, this is how it works. I appreciate your position at 12 years old.

00:21:39.820 And I appreciate the fact you're getting some hair on your balls and you're thinking you're

00:21:42.680 a little tough guy and that's cool. But until you turn 18, you're in my house and we will

00:21:46.040 not say that. We will not do that. It doesn't matter. It's like setting the fucking core values

00:21:51.520 for your company. It's insane. Except for your fucking house. Yeah. You know, like I don't

00:21:54.960 understand how hard this shit is. You know, like, oh dude, little Johnny, he's running the

00:21:59.380 fucking rampage. Well, who's allowed him to be on the fucking rampage? Exactly. I mean,

00:22:03.260 so let's, let's talk about that. You know, uh, we talked about, you know, the, the passive

00:22:10.680 parenting and the pussified bullshit that we've allowed our kids. Now we have these

00:22:15.180 kids who for the last 10 years have been brought up that way and we see it. Remember

00:22:20.820 we saw, we talked about this, um, this girl who came on from Northwestern on Neil Cavuto

00:22:26.140 Cavuto show. Yeah. She comes on, she says, well, I think we should get free tuition. I think

00:22:32.100 we should get $15 an hour minimum wage. I think we should blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And

00:22:36.600 he goes, well, how should we pay for it? And she's like, like frozen. Well, that's a good

00:22:44.000 idea. The fuck. Okay. Somebody's got to pay. You can't just keep saying, you know, oh,

00:22:51.240 well we get this, we get that, we get this. And it comes down to basic, you know, intelligence

00:22:57.100 of like what these kids are being taught. Are these kids even being taught basic shit

00:23:04.260 school? Here's the thing. My kid's school, my kid's school is banned playing tag because

00:23:10.300 they don't want anybody getting hurt and they don't want whatever. This is the point. Like

00:23:13.960 if you look at the way the core values have changed and with the moms and the dads and

00:23:17.920 the parents and the whole thing, I mean, my dad raised me flat out. Like, look, if you

00:23:21.560 get into a fight, here's my only rule. You don't throw the first punch, but you make sure

00:23:25.800 you throw the last. I could beat the shit out of a kid. And if I, if my dad found out that

00:23:30.280 he punched me first or came at me first, my dad would support me until the cows freaking

00:23:33.800 came home. But we literally live in a day and age where the victim, yeah, the quote unquote

00:23:39.720 victim bully mentality. See, I, I believe something completely different than what most people

00:23:45.920 think. And the reality is without victims, there would be no bullies without having a

00:23:52.260 victim mentality. There would be no bullies. But when do the quote unquote bullies show

00:23:56.400 up when the victims start crying? Oh, he's a bully. He's a bully. He's a bully. Well, dude,

00:24:00.120 I could say that I don't like freaking water bottles and you could like love water bottles

00:24:03.700 and now all of a sudden I'm an asshole and I'm a racist and I'm a bigot because I'm talking

00:24:07.000 about freaking water bottles. Without our society and the system that we've put in place

00:24:11.780 and it, and let's pin it. It goes from the top down. It goes from Barack Obama, the president

00:24:17.200 of the United States of America, all the way down to Congress, the Senate, to the leaders,

00:24:21.200 to the teachers, to the parents. We have literally created a victim mentality and a victim society

00:24:26.240 where everybody is entitled to something. And at the end of the day, anything that said,

00:24:31.200 good, felt, or done that makes you feel even remotely like uncomfortable, we run and tell

00:24:37.400 somebody, even as adults, even as adults. It's insane to me, man.

00:24:41.980 Dude, the whole fucking HR department was formed because of this. You know, 30 years ago,

00:24:46.580 you didn't have fucking HR.

00:24:47.500 Yeah. Is that around the time where everybody realized that they could literally get sued

00:24:51.560 for anything? Dude. Well, when did we start allowing people to get sued for anything?

00:24:55.560 So lady, look, if you're so, the reason that there is a warning label on this coffee cup,

00:25:00.580 there's, there's, there's, there's, there's a, there's a warning on the top of this coffee

00:25:03.940 cup that says, attention, it's hot because the lady got, gets a McDonald's cup of coffee,

00:25:09.120 spills the shit in her lab and sues McDonald's for the hot ass coffee that she's been drinking

00:25:12.940 her whole life. Dude, thank you, dude. This brought up another good point. Remember the list that

00:25:17.440 we made last night of what the fuck is wrong with America? All right, here, put this on

00:25:21.000 my list, Vaughn. This is what we're going to fucking go for. Dude, if you sue somebody

00:25:25.540 in America and you lose, you have to fucking pay the cost of, of suing the other person.

00:25:31.000 Yeah. And public apologies and the whole deal. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Like dude, because right

00:25:35.220 now, you know, there's no, there's no repercussions. You sue anybody for anything.

00:25:39.060 Zero accountability. Right. Exactly. So like, well, and why is that? And that is simply

00:25:43.840 because if you look at the quote unquote leadership of the country, the leadership of America,

00:25:48.860 everybody's a lawyer in the fucking office from the top down, no one's accountable. No

00:25:54.300 one is accountable from the top down. The president's not accountable. The congressmen, the senators,

00:25:58.620 the leaders, the team, no one's accountable to anybody. It's kind of like hot potato. Everybody

00:26:02.380 wants to pass something to somebody else. Why? In fear of what? Making a mistake and fear

00:26:07.860 wise. I mean, that's the reality is like somebody's got to be accountable for something. Parents

00:26:11.700 are like, Whoa, shit. I can't spank my kid because they might call the division of child

00:26:15.760 family services. You're damn right. I'm going to smack my kid. And I hope you show up and

00:26:19.200 come to my house because my kid was lipping off and that's how it works in my place. That's

00:26:22.900 just how it is. Yeah. So I was raised. I mean, dude, if I raise my voice to my mom or talk

00:26:27.040 back to my mom, heaven help my ass. I would get smacked across the freaking room by my dad.

00:26:31.580 My dad was here. I stayed at least two arms lengths away from him. I mean, he's 70 years

00:26:36.040 old. I'm fucking a big dude, man. And I stay at least two arms lengths away so I can

00:26:40.400 talk shit that way. Cause I know if I'm close, man, he's going to pop you. So like, you know,

00:26:45.560 I I've, I've learned to adapt. I don't get hit anymore. You know? Yeah. That's cause I'm

00:26:49.540 faster. But the reality of it is we came up with this cool list of how we're going to

00:26:53.340 fix America. Cause we all have these conversations, right? We have, uh, these conversations at

00:26:57.980 home was like, you know, the mom and dad, or, you know, you're you and your girlfriend

00:27:01.620 or me and my wife are like, ah, you know, and we come up with all these ideas. And we had

00:27:05.940 that conversation last night. How can we literally fix what's going on? Okay.

00:27:10.400 We already started remove the fucking participation mentality, the everybody wins mentality. Start

00:27:16.240 telling people what it means to actually compete for where they are. I just brought up my number

00:27:20.600 two point, which is actually more like number six, but don't allow people to sue other people

00:27:25.220 without having to cover the costs of that. And you know, basically make it right. But when

00:27:29.360 you talked about the office, right, you, we have people in political office that are in

00:27:34.680 a fucking, they're in a club where they get to make the rules that don't fucking apply

00:27:40.660 to them. Yep. Okay. So that's point number three. All right. When Sean and I get in office

00:27:45.040 and we're become presidents of the United States of America, co-presidents. All right.

00:27:49.620 Co-presidents. See, we're changing the rules already, but they apply to us. I would have no

00:27:54.000 problem applying to our own fucking rules. Okay. We, why do, why do they get to not obey the

00:28:01.340 rules that they fucking set for us? It's not right. Okay. Well, it was another thing we

00:28:05.740 talked about term limits, you know, fucking Vaughn, you, you, you said one, six year term.

00:28:12.500 I said two, two year terms, but the point is you can't be a career politician, you know,

00:28:17.940 everybody looking out for their own, you know, making laws to protect them. Dude, the, the,

00:28:22.920 the, you know, I hate to like turn this into political show, but you know, you, you know,

00:28:27.880 fuck it's my show. We'll talk about whatever the fuck we want to talk about, you know,

00:28:30.860 but it is kind of weird that you have all these political figures out there who are currently in

00:28:36.240 office on payroll by us running for office that you or I or whoever may not, you know, agree with,

00:28:44.920 how does that work? I mean, this is the thing is it's not even a political conversation of,

00:28:49.800 of, of Republican Democrat, but you know, Barack Obama, this is, this is the every single politician.

00:28:55.580 This is Republican and Democrat. Barack Obama to, to, to become reelected to run again,

00:29:01.260 literally traveled the country campaigning while he was still commander in chief.

00:29:07.580 He was, he was literally going coast to coast campaigning for reelection while he was commander

00:29:12.160 in chief, while he was collecting the check, spending the tax dollars to fly Air Force One,

00:29:17.300 to fly the security detail, to get reelected. It's kind of like, you know, that, that's like

00:29:21.700 paying a CEO of a company to run the company where he's out doing something else. Right. And you're

00:29:28.240 still paying him and he's not running the company and you're just hoping that someone else takes care

00:29:32.360 of business. This is track record should speak for itself on the real. Yeah, it's, it's crazy,

00:29:36.800 you know, but I mean, you know, we have so many things that are fucked up, you know, with our system

00:29:42.920 that people don't even think about, you know, and, and, you know, to your point of, of Cecil, the lion

00:29:48.480 and, you know, the videos that you made regarding that, you know, people are, are more enamored with

00:29:54.560 stories about the Kardashians than they are understanding how bad they're getting fucked

00:29:58.920 on their, by, by the government. You know, let's create all these little issues and put all these

00:30:03.800 things in the media so we can entertain these people and then we can like pickpocket them on

00:30:08.020 the backside. Yep. You know what I mean? And you have, you have a government who doesn't pass laws

00:30:14.220 that apply to them. Okay. You have a government that allows special interest groups and lobbies

00:30:20.560 to pay and provide bonuses and under the table benefits for these people that are making decisions

00:30:28.840 that are supposed to be in our best interest. Okay. Now let's be real here. Okay. I'm everybody here

00:30:36.740 at the ultimate end of the day and anybody listening who disagrees with this is a fucking liar. Okay.

00:30:42.900 We worry about ourselves. Okay. And if you're in office and you go to office with this clear heart

00:30:49.480 and this clear conscious and is righteous, you know, I'm going to do the right thing attitude.

00:30:54.500 And there, I believe there's a lot of people who get into politics with that mentality. I'm going to

00:30:58.760 do the right thing. I'm going to be the difference. I'm going to be the different guy. And then what

00:31:02.780 happens, you know, the big pharma group comes in and says, Hey, um, I'll pay, I'll give you access to

00:31:09.400 my vacation house, uh, for, you know, two weeks a year. If you vote this way, or I'll, I'll figure

00:31:15.440 out a way to get your kid into fucking Harvard, or I'll figure out a way to slide you 2 million

00:31:19.760 bucks under the table. If you vote for this. And then all of a sudden it's not about America

00:31:24.100 anymore. It's about what is good for my family. Right. You know what I mean? And I don't care who

00:31:29.300 you are, man. That shit that it's going to sway you to think certain ways. Well, that's, that's why

00:31:34.500 being a career politician doesn't work. Exactly. If you're worried about shit, if I don't get

00:31:38.660 reelected, I might lose my $175,000 a year job. I'm going to lose this. I'm going to lose all that

00:31:43.260 stuff. Right. So I need to figure out what to do to keep my job, forget the constituency.

00:31:47.720 Ultimately, I only need a small portion of them to be able to vote for me so that I can win. And

00:31:52.420 typically the portion that is going to vote for me are the people that I'm going to do the special

00:31:56.820 interest for the game. It's crazy. The game, the game becomes what's best for America. What's best for

00:32:03.280 the state that I represent? And it goes from that to what can I get away with that benefits me

00:32:10.560 without getting me in a situation where I don't get reelected? Yeah. Okay. And, and that's not

00:32:15.480 right. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's why you need term limits. That's why there shouldn't

00:32:20.780 be a special interest groups. There shouldn't be lobbies that can pay people for votes. That's not

00:32:26.480 right. You know what I mean? They shouldn't be able to do those things because it removes the

00:32:31.420 ability for people to, to be pure hearted and what's best for America. And so what happens

00:32:36.320 is, is, you know, if we switch those things, if we take away their ability to take money

00:32:41.720 and we take away their ability for special interest groups and we take away 20 years and

00:32:46.520 fucking, you know, in government and we make it a maximum of four years, you know, two,

00:32:51.280 two year terms or something short like that. Now, if you want the speaking engagements,

00:32:54.920 if you want the book sales, if you want the money and the fame and the things that come

00:32:59.420 after that, what do you have to do? You got to actually do some shit. You got to do some

00:33:02.500 good shit for America. Yeah. You got to be a fucking true patriot. You got to care about

00:33:07.540 your country. You got to care about your people and you have to make shit work in a positive

00:33:12.180 way so that people could say, Hey, fucking Sean Whalen got shit done when he was there.

00:33:16.420 Yep. I'm going to read his fucking book. Okay. So it changes from this cancerous, egotistical,

00:33:23.360 selfish position to a noble position in basically three or four steps that are very simple.

00:33:31.760 You know, I mean, so what are, so what are those steps? So how do the idea, the concept

00:33:37.000 that we're talking about, you and our action takers were practical appliers of knowledge.

00:33:41.440 How do you do this? How do we do this right now?

00:33:43.600 Well, the problem, I think, I mean, obviously the problem, here's the deal, you know, us for

00:33:48.900 the government right here, we've got four people sitting at this table. None of us are going

00:33:51.940 to vote for this shit because it fucking hurts all of us. So the reality is, is you people

00:33:57.080 listening have to quit being a pussy about the views that you decide not to express, which

00:34:03.880 I know a lot of you guys are being pussies because you rally behind my words, you rally

00:34:08.400 behind Sean's words, but you won't fucking say shit yourself because you don't want to

00:34:12.720 be called a fucking bigot or a racist or fucking some other bullshit term, selfish, materialistic,

00:34:20.580 whatever, because it's easy for these other people to throw labels on you. But the reality

00:34:25.020 is, is no, I'm not any of those things. I'm speaking for fucking what's good for all of us,

00:34:29.980 all the brothers and sisters of fucking America, you know, and we don't have anybody that is

00:34:34.860 out there truly for the people. We just don't because the system doesn't allow that to happen.

00:34:42.040 Right. And so what, you know, you asked me what I think needs to be done. I, you know,

00:34:47.360 I think people need to start by saying, Hey, this is what I fucking believe. And if you don't

00:34:52.140 like it tough shit, instead of being this fragile little puss that says, you know, you know, like

00:34:58.060 that, I mean, I see ridiculous shit on Facebook lately, you know, racial tension. You've mentioned

00:35:03.320 the Ferguson thing and like all this shit with the races, you know, I don't give a fuck if

00:35:07.860 someone's black or whatever, white, yellow, I don't give a shit. But like, I saw somebody say,

00:35:12.560 Oh, I saw two black dudes leaving this. And some fucking person was like, you're a fucking racist.

00:35:17.320 They're not black. They're what do you mean? Black people. The fuck are you talking about?

00:35:22.120 I mean, you're fucking black. Yeah. There's no racism in that. Yeah. That's like saying, dude,

00:35:26.800 you're fucking, you know, Andy, you're white. No, actually I'm Sicilian. You know, you're fucking

00:35:32.580 racist. You know what I mean? Like, dude, people are like, they're so afraid to fucking say

00:35:37.740 anything because they don't want to get a label slapped on them that, that they say

00:35:41.780 nothing. And what happens is the, the, the, the fucking do-gooder agenda, the politically

00:35:47.420 correct agenda. I, my dad calls a do-gooder, I call it idiot, but whatever you want to call

00:35:52.920 it, that agenda gets pushed because of default. You know, it gets pushed because people like

00:35:59.280 us won't speak up. Right. You know what I mean? And so by default, because we let these

00:36:03.720 people whine and cry and pout, they end up getting in their way because you, people like

00:36:07.900 you, smart people, we talked about this last night, entrepreneurs, people who are successful,

00:36:12.120 they look at these problems. You know, you know why we have very little quality people

00:36:16.460 in office? Because the people who are out there doing the shit that know how to run

00:36:19.800 the shit that are smart enough, they look at these problems and say, fuck that. I'm going

00:36:23.580 to fucking do my own shit. So that's the question then is how does this shit change? Because

00:36:27.980 we know that the, the, the, the congressman, the senators, the leadership that's

00:36:31.700 currently there is what's perpetuating. And it's like the snowball. It just keeps

00:36:35.160 getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And we're electing the same people.

00:36:38.740 So you've got this lethargic society who literally elects Barack Obama. Why? He's

00:36:44.300 got zero history. He's got zero pedigree. He's got zero, cause it's a feel good story,

00:36:47.940 right? It's a popular thing right now. Yeah. So we, so we put him in office. So they're

00:36:51.060 smart. They made it that way. So the reality is like true, true conversation right now.

00:36:55.820 How do you change that? Because the guys like you and I who are doing shit, getting shit

00:37:00.540 done it. The only way that I see this changing, you want to talk real change. Like how in the

00:37:05.620 hell is this going to change is guys like you and I getting into office guys like you

00:37:11.140 and I running and having the collaborative effort saying, look, I don't need 175 grand

00:37:15.460 a year from being a freaking Senator or a congressman. Fuck that. In fact, I'm going to

00:37:19.000 give it all the wounded warrior project and we're going to go down this path and we're going

00:37:22.300 to eliminate all the freaking special interest, all of the bonuses that we get until the day we

00:37:26.460 die. So on and so forth. The question is, is, are there enough guys like you and I

00:37:30.520 to do it and what's it going to take to get those guys to all like unilaterally? I see

00:37:36.020 like literally getting guys like you and I across the country to be like, all right,

00:37:40.300 this is the deal. 2020 we're taking over. We're literally going to take over and we

00:37:43.580 rally our own troops in our own places and say, this is like the mathematical algorithm

00:37:48.460 that it's going to take for me to win my district, you to win your district, me to become

00:37:52.020 a congressman, you to become a congressman. We all get in there and then we just torpedo the

00:37:55.240 whole fucking thing. Well, I mean, I, I think that a lot of what we talk about, I think

00:37:59.640 people, you know, I call them asterisk holes, you know, they're going to fucking poke holes

00:38:04.820 and everything, which they should, you should be curious. You should poke holes. You should

00:38:08.920 think. Okay. But I think it's the popular thing to do now to discount somebody who speaks

00:38:15.440 in plain language, who speaks in common sense, who speaks, who has tattoos or whatever, who

00:38:21.480 has a fucking beard. And it's easy for people to say, Oh, that guy's just a fucking redneck.

00:38:25.200 Yeah. You know, he curses. He's just a redneck. He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking

00:38:28.420 about. You know, the reality is, is like, that just shows me how ignorant people really

00:38:33.440 are because they judge people are based upon those kinds of like presumptions as opposed

00:38:38.980 to like actually listening to the words coming out of the motherfucker's mouth. Exactly.

00:38:42.600 You know what I mean? Like, it's like, well, people I say all the time, cause I'm interested

00:38:45.860 in politics and I want to get involved in politics and I will very soon, you know, how your

00:38:50.560 qualifications. Why are you qualified? How are you qualified to become what makes somebody

00:38:55.380 qualified anyway? And that's exactly my point. What man on this planet, I don't give a shit

00:38:59.740 if you're, if you're Republican, Democrat, black, white, if you've run a multi-billion

00:39:03.580 dollar empire or you're freaking running a taco truck down on the freaking side of the

00:39:07.180 road, what man is qualified to put his finger on a nuclear arsenal that would blow up the

00:39:12.760 world 10 times over? None. What qualifies? Does the, did they have a class at Harvard that

00:39:17.680 I don't know about? Is there, is there, is there a freaking, uh, is there a degree at

00:39:21.240 Stanford that says, here's how you handle a nuclear arsenal and an army into this and

00:39:25.640 that? No one, no man on this planet is qualified, but how do we get them in there? We get them

00:39:30.720 in there. And up to this point, it's been based off of the snowball continuing to roll

00:39:35.080 and ultimately people just buying into the bullshit that's been fed. Why? Because from little

00:39:40.700 kids, we've been coddled to go down the path of least resistance. I think people are sick

00:39:45.720 of the bullshit. I do too. I believe it. I, I don't think that you would have somebody

00:39:49.980 like Donald Trump. And like I told you last night, I mean, I'm not a fucking Trump supporter.

00:39:55.120 Do I think the guy's more capable of running a country than Hillary Clinton? I do. Yeah.

00:39:59.000 Cause he's run multiple businesses. People say, Oh, well he's went bankrupt four fucking

00:40:02.600 times. That's what makes him all the more qualified. Exactly. Cause he came back. Yeah.

00:40:06.000 But the point is, is that, you know, do I disagree with the way he does things? Yeah, I do

00:40:10.200 because he's purposely polarizing people, you know, which is the fucking typical political

00:40:15.520 agenda. You know, the reality of the situation is I have liberal beliefs. I have fucking right

00:40:21.800 wing beliefs, you know, but the, but the truth of the matter is, is I do also have the ability

00:40:26.980 to decide what's more important to me. Do my more concerned with these social issues that

00:40:33.180 are, you know, feel good. Or am I more concerned with what's good for my kids that are going to

00:40:39.240 grow up, you know, and be a part of this country later. You know what I mean? And, and people

00:40:43.860 have trouble deciding those issues in our government, the way they stay in power, the way that they

00:40:49.080 are is by, they force the division to happen so that we can't even have conversations. I

00:40:54.620 mean, to try to have a conversation. I run into it all the time because people could, people

00:40:59.840 always like put me as a Republican when I'm not a fucking Republican. I just, I'm physically

00:41:05.040 conservative. You know, I understand social issues. I understand what people, you know,

00:41:09.220 think rights and wrong. And I think people have the, the right to live their life socially

00:41:13.620 the way they want to live. I'm not fucking worried about that. Yeah. You know, so you

00:41:17.020 get these arguments from these fucking liberals that attack Republican quarter. And I'm not

00:41:21.420 even fucking Republican, but they attack my position because they're so used to being

00:41:25.660 in that fucking fight mindset. When in reality, we're all Americans, you know what I mean?

00:41:30.920 Black people, white people, yellow people, you know what I mean? The Indians, everybody

00:41:35.680 here, we're all fucking American. You know what, when are we going to stop fucking being

00:41:40.400 against each other so that these other people can impose their will on us? Cause I think everybody's

00:41:45.960 tired of the, the left or the right. You know, the reason Donald Trump's even getting consideration

00:41:52.160 is because there is something about him that's fresh, you know, like dude, he says what it is.

00:41:57.520 And it's like, he just says the common sense shit. People are like, fuck finally. But like,

00:42:02.820 what have you really said the common sense shit? Like, cause he only does a little bit.

00:42:06.480 Yeah. You know what I mean? You're going to see people from social media. I firmly believe

00:42:11.140 you are going to see a president of the United States elected from social media platform in the next

00:42:16.080 15 years. Yep. Without question. Yeah. Without question. In 2020, it's going to happen in 2020,

00:42:21.440 right? Because you could say, there you go, because you could say shit, you could say shit

00:42:26.480 on social media and it resonates with people in an informal way. Whereas if you said the same shit

00:42:34.240 on a podium in front of a news camera, you would get fucking slaughtered. You know what I mean?

00:42:38.340 Cause they'll spin it and they'll this and they'll that. Right. We're, we're moving into an age in my

00:42:42.260 opinion. And you know, this is like Gary Vaynerchuk talks about, you know, the social media and the

00:42:46.480 application they're on and stuff like that. But I think we're moving politically. We've

00:42:51.360 literally internally self-sabotaged in the sense that the system that we have right now

00:42:56.440 from our education with our kids all the way up to our elected officials in Washington,

00:43:01.580 it's so fractured and it's so broken that literally no one wants the same thing that we have anymore,

00:43:08.540 but there are no other options. There is no clear path. And so I firmly believe-

00:43:13.360 So they're choosing the best of terrible situations.

00:43:15.700 Yeah. It's the least of, it's the path of least resistance. It's like,

00:43:18.520 like just picking the, you know, the, the, the lesser of two evils kind of a deal.

00:43:22.640 Right.

00:43:22.940 I believe that within the next, by 2016 it won't happen because it hasn't,

00:43:27.040 there really isn't anybody that's been able to step up and articulate and orate how exactly

00:43:32.380 to make the changes. But I believe that, that the 2020 election will be a tipping point.

00:43:36.960 You know, Malcolm Gladwell talked about in his book, tipping point about how this works.

00:43:40.680 And I believe that all of our society is moving in that direction where we truly believe that,

00:43:45.120 that society is dumb and lethargic and asleep and whatever, whatever. But at the end of the day,

00:43:50.100 no one is showing a clear path of how to change and how to create what you and I have talked about

00:43:55.680 revolution.

00:43:56.340 And I don't think it is. And I don't think it is that society is dumb. I think society,

00:44:01.860 I think people assume they're dumb because we, like we said, we've gotten to a point in time where

00:44:06.760 you can't say anything without being blasted. Right.

00:44:09.520 You know what I mean? So that's the perception. So you have a lot of smart people out there that

00:44:13.700 won't speak up and they have common sense beliefs. Right. And it's, and, and people assume that

00:44:19.400 their silence is that they're dumb. It's not that they're dumb. It's that they don't want to deal

00:44:23.280 with arguing with morons. Right. You know what I mean? And well, and some, some you got, you and I

00:44:28.300 have talked about is, is we kind of envisioned, you know, what brought you and I together in this

00:44:33.460 conversation and, and, and social platforms and stuff is that you're thinking you're an Island.

00:44:37.600 You know, I'm thinking that I'm an Island. Like I'm the only guy out there talking the way that

00:44:41.660 I'm talking, saying what I'm saying. You're like, you've told me this. I'm the only guy out there.

00:44:46.020 And all of a sudden you resonate with another message. And I feel like that's going to continue

00:44:49.280 to happen. The more social media becomes free, if you will, to people opening up and becoming

00:44:54.940 real and raw and authentic, you're going to see that. And you're going to see a collaboration of

00:44:58.880 people that, I mean, even with like the tea party, the tea party is not even what, like seven years

00:45:03.200 old, eight years old, the tea party is not even that old. And they're already a massive contender,

00:45:07.840 if you will, in the political sphere. They did that without Facebook per se. So we're moving into

00:45:13.000 an age where when you can get a million people to march on Washington, the way the million man

00:45:18.540 marched in, whether or not there were a million people there, it's, you know, whatever called

00:45:21.480 the million man March. You know exactly what I'm talking about, whether there was 600 or 800,

00:45:24.160 whatever you're moving into an age where literally people have gotten so sick and tired of the way

00:45:28.340 that it is and are so ready for something different that as soon as somebody comes to the table

00:45:33.080 through the social platforms, through the Facebooks, through the Paris group and says,

00:45:37.040 look, this is a viable option. This isn't some pie in the sky bullshit deal, but this is a viable

00:45:42.800 plan. This is what you need to do to do it. You're going to see radical, radical revolution in America.

00:45:50.260 I know from a business owner, I mean, I know that most people are unaware of what the government

00:45:57.280 really does to the economy. You know what I mean? They, they, they're unaware. Like, you know,

00:46:04.220 we were talking about earlier, if I have one unit of product and I want to sell that, let's say I've

00:46:09.260 got, you know, one pallet of product and it would cost me a thousand bucks and I sell that, that pallet

00:46:14.880 product for 2000 bucks. You know, people are like, Oh, you made a thousand bucks. Well, no, I didn't

00:46:18.960 make a thousand bucks. Okay. Because first of all, I got to pay all my expenses. I got to pay the cost of

00:46:23.340 goods. And if I want to grow my business, I've got to spend enough that at least 50%, you know,

00:46:29.340 to do that. And then what happens is the government comes in and for you to grow,

00:46:33.740 they tax you on the reinvestment money that you put back into your products. So what happens is

00:46:39.800 you're taxed there. And then when I sell that product, if I want to take a paycheck, I get taxed

00:46:43.860 there. All right. Well, if you really want small business to thrive and you want to employ people

00:46:47.600 and you want the economy to grow and become this massive, you know, productive machine

00:46:54.020 that it could be, why are you doing that? Why are you taxing people to reinvest in their,

00:46:58.580 in their product? Why, why is, how is that the right thing? So what's your, what's your solution

00:47:02.760 for that? Cause I have an idea. I have a, they need to remove that fucking tax. And then what

00:47:06.680 they need to do is instead of taxing businesses there, what they need to do is they need to take

00:47:11.540 the tax that they don't enforce on the internet and make it enforceable on the internet. Because

00:47:17.200 in all these companies, there's gonna be a lot of people who are listening right now. I'm not

00:47:19.800 paying a tax on the internet. Well, realize what you're talking about is you're talking about giving

00:47:24.480 a competitive advantage to a internet company, which employs up to 90% less people than brick and

00:47:31.240 mortar companies in the United States. So when you give them a competitive advantage and they employ

00:47:36.860 less people, guess what? There's less fucking jobs for you. Okay. There's people don't think

00:47:43.180 like this. And what they think is like, Oh dude, free shit on the internet. No tax. This is awesome.

00:47:48.120 But, but then it costs them their job. They don't think about it. You know what I mean? So I mean,

00:47:54.440 there's just all these things. You got these States going broke. They're not collecting internet

00:47:57.600 tax. Well, you know, 50% of the fucking tax they were collecting 15 years ago is now on the

00:48:02.800 internet that they're not collecting. And they wonder why they're fucking broke. You know,

00:48:06.740 it's ridiculous, man. There's just tons and tons and tons of things that are just backwards that

00:48:11.400 make no fucking sense that they allow to happen. You simplify it. I mean, this is where, you know,

00:48:17.100 you and I've talked and we'll, we'll do another podcast on this on like actual practical applications

00:48:21.200 of like how to solve this shit. Really simple deal. Flat tax, plain and simple, seven and a half

00:48:25.540 percent corporate personal done and done. Oh, but everybody, the rich and the poor. And we're going

00:48:30.640 to get right back to that conversation. Fuck it. Everybody across the board done and done pay seven

00:48:35.640 and a half percent business personal. Doesn't freaking matter if you're a billionaire. If

00:48:40.020 you're working at McDonald's, it helps everybody period. Done and done. There is no, there are

00:48:44.480 no more loopholes. There are no more of this. It's just a flat tax. Like the fucking people,

00:48:49.140 when the people talk about, you know, the rich, they're fucking like the, when people, the average

00:48:55.340 person hears the media talk about the rich. Okay. And the big businesses, they, they think,

00:49:01.360 they think me, you know, we're fucking small to medium sized business. They don't realize

00:49:07.080 that there's multi-billion dollar corporations out there that pay zero fucking tax because

00:49:13.240 they get through all these loopholes because of how many people they employ. And they, you

00:49:16.880 know, they, we have a 13,000 page tax code, 14,000, whatever the hell it is. I've got a really

00:49:21.620 simple solution. A one page tax code that says 7.5% and everybody pay, you pay, done and done

00:49:26.540 paying in simple. I mean, that's the simplification of, of, of literally these complex issues that

00:49:32.060 have become so crazy that even our own leaders don't even understand it. Let's simplify shit.

00:49:37.640 Let's just create a really, really simple model. Like, like what you talked about, the whole

00:49:41.700 thing with insurance. I mean, why is insurance going up so high? Why is malpractice insurance

00:49:45.180 going up so high? Why is it so bad for doctors and for everybody else? Well, because of the

00:49:48.880 lawsuit, the frivolous lawsuit bullshit. So you've got a really simple solution for that. Cool. You file a

00:49:54.280 lawsuit and lose. You got to pay for that shit. That's going to deter you from filing a frivolous

00:49:58.360 lawsuit about how you spilled coffee on your balls and you want to sue McDonald's because of it.

00:50:02.220 In a lot of other countries, that's the way it is. Yeah. You don't see that shit a lot of other

00:50:05.060 countries. And then on top of that, like I said, you take away the laws that make the laws apply

00:50:09.140 to everybody. You make the fucking terms short. So they have to fucking have our best interest in

00:50:14.120 mind. Dude, you're, you're talking about simple shit. It's really, really simple. Like, like I've,

00:50:18.840 I've said this in it. But dude, what they try to do is they'll, they'll, they'll say, Oh, Sean,

00:50:23.460 that doesn't fucking work because it does work. Sean, that doesn't work, you know? And they'll

00:50:27.640 paint this fucking complicated picture that the average Joe like looks at and says, man, you know,

00:50:33.400 he's got a good point. That doesn't look like it worked, even though I don't know what the fuck

00:50:36.000 he just wrote there, but it looks complicated. So it must be right. Yeah. And, and so, so it's the

00:50:39.920 same thing. So this is how you dumbify everything. And I call it dumbifying it, whatever, call it

00:50:43.580 whatever you want, simplifying, whatever. But same thing with national security. This is like where

00:50:47.480 me getting involved in politics. I literally believe that if you can't describe it or paint

00:50:51.560 it out on a whiteboard, it shouldn't be possible. So people ask you, what's your national security?

00:50:56.460 You know, what should we do about national security about? We talked about this, some refugees

00:50:59.060 and the whole thing. You literally get on a whiteboard, right? You draw out a map of America,

00:51:04.780 literally take, take, take a, take a Sharpie, a marker, and just draw out the outline of America,

00:51:09.060 national security, our foreign policy. You put a bunch of arrows pointing to America and say,

00:51:13.400 this is what I am concerned about. This is what I am here to protect. This is what I am here

00:51:17.760 to serve. As soon as everybody inside of this, this outline, which is the outline of America

00:51:21.940 is fed, employed, working, and our economy is actually balanced. We will then take the,

00:51:27.760 the, the distribution, the dividend, if you will, and invest in other places and do other

00:51:32.520 things. Our goal is to protect Americans. And yet we're sending troops and missiles and

00:51:37.500 tanks and shit. I mean, dude, ISIS right now was rolling around two, what is it? 2,000 tanks

00:51:41.820 that they got from a base in Iraq that they freaking came, that we fucking left there.

00:51:46.440 We left them there. How smart, tell me the common sense. Tell me how that made common sense to

00:51:51.500 anybody inside of Washington. Hey man, I want a tank. Leave one of those motherfuckers in my yard.

00:51:56.440 Yeah, I want one. Give me one. You know what I'm saying? You know, and this is where like

00:52:00.260 the polarization of the conversation comes up and this is where you lose people. When you say radical

00:52:05.080 thought, radical action, radical this, dude, when people hear that, they automatically assume

00:52:10.720 that it's got to, we're going to all have to get our fucking shit and get guns and go fucking

00:52:14.880 start. No, that's not what you need to do. Right. This is a, so we're talking about social

00:52:18.860 revolution. We're talking about speaking up for what you think is right, educating yourself

00:52:23.740 on what you think is right and moving forward. Those ideas versus just swallowing the pills

00:52:28.860 that these people give you. Right. You know, we're not talking about crazy shit, you know,

00:52:32.720 like, Hey, let's get a fucking tank and go. No, we're talking about, that would be kind of

00:52:36.380 fun though. I mean, yeah. I mean like, dude, I'm all for riding the tank, blow some shit up, but

00:52:40.420 like, that's not what we're talking about. I mean, does shit sometimes come to that in

00:52:44.500 the history of earth? Absolutely. But we're trying to avoid that by getting you guys to

00:52:48.200 understand like, Hey, just because you have a viewpoint on something doesn't mean you can't

00:52:55.360 say it or believe in it. And like, dude, my, my thought, you know, process on this whole

00:53:00.760 conversation is that I just want people to feel more comfortable speaking what they believe,

00:53:05.500 you know, what they stand up for, what they think is right. Even if it's not what you and I

00:53:09.300 agree with, cause I mean, I'm sure there's things we don't agree on. Sure. You know,

00:53:12.380 but at least be able to have a conversation without it being this fucking thing where it's

00:53:17.120 like, Oh, you're a religious fucking you persecutor. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're a

00:53:21.840 fucking racist. You're this, you're that dude. You know, how about we start looking at things

00:53:26.720 for how they fucking are. Okay. Let's look at the fucking facts of things and let's like

00:53:32.080 realize that. All right. You know, you're black, I'm white. It's fucking ebony and ivory.

00:53:39.900 We got to go together like perfect harmony. You know, let's fucking realize that we're

00:53:44.600 on the same fucking team and move forward together as opposed to just always trying to make it

00:53:50.420 this issue of like, you know, and I'm not just saying the race thing, but whatever it

00:53:54.280 is, you know, like, Oh, you're offending me with your fucking beard because I don't like

00:53:58.520 beards. Well, that's, that's the thing though is you, you know that this will never, that'll

00:54:01.640 never happen. There will always be division. There will always be that way. Exactly. Right.

00:54:07.920 And at the end of the day, like I can sit down James and fucking Al Sharpton, they profit off

00:54:12.800 of fucking people. Jackson. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's what I said. Jesse James is a cool

00:54:18.240 dude. He rides motorcycles. Yeah. He's bad-ass, but like he should be a president. He's seen

00:54:22.240 his 1911s. He's making dude. They're sick. So dope. Yeah. So my good buddy, you know,

00:54:26.140 Austin Weiss, Austin Weiss is a good buddy of mine. He's best friends with Jesse James,

00:54:29.960 but they're, they're, I'm trying to get one of those 19, I need one off the topic. I need

00:54:33.440 one anyway, like, you know, Jesse send us some guns, bro. Yeah, dude. That's what I'm

00:54:39.220 saying. We'll rep, we'll rep them. Yeah. I bet he, dude, he's for the common sense part.

00:54:43.480 That's the thing, man, is, is you will never, you're never going to eliminate. And this is

00:54:47.480 where let's take this thing full fucking circle. Let's take this thing full circle back to the

00:54:51.380 original conversation about the children and the kids and the playground and getting your

00:54:55.140 ass whooped and this and that and the other, like taking the entire thing full circle all

00:54:58.640 the way back to where we are right now, which is no one is ever going to be happy. No one

00:55:02.920 is ever, there will always be somebody that's on the quote unquote losing end of the stick.

00:55:07.320 A deer will always have to go down in order for me to put food on my table. You will always

00:55:11.820 have to have in a, in a two match game, you will always have a winner and a loser. We should

00:55:15.580 just flat out scored more points than you. That's cool. We're losing team. Go figure out

00:55:20.340 how to become better to win. It's the same thing here, America. If you want to create

00:55:24.500 the change, get your ass off the couch, stop listening to the rubbish and the bullshit that

00:55:29.260 you've been fed and taking the pills that you've been given for the last 50 years and

00:55:33.180 realize that it's possible to do, but you cannot sit around and wait for someone else

00:55:38.640 to do it. You're going to have to get involved with the quote revolution, right? Because what

00:55:43.020 we're doing right now, the conversation we're having is crazy. It's out there. It's like,

00:55:45.920 Oh dude, that's insane. Whatever, whatever. This is how it should be. It's not. That's the

00:55:50.240 thing. This, what if this is the normal conversation? What if this is the norm? What if this is how

00:55:55.100 it should be? And yet everything else is freaking insanity. See, I don't, I can't comprehend

00:56:00.140 thinking another way. Yeah, me either. You know what I mean? Like I'm, I'm sitting here

00:56:02.940 having this conversation and my, my thing isn't like, we're being weird. It's like, what

00:56:07.100 the fuck is wrong with everybody else? He wants to explain and slam down a frigging 13,000

00:56:12.680 page tax code. And you're like, bro, you're confusing me. Why don't we just talk about seven and a

00:56:16.800 half percent unless you, unless you can explain it to me in one page or less. Cause my plan

00:56:21.340 is seven and a half percent and it's really freaking simple. Like explain to me how this

00:56:24.900 13,000 pages make sense. It doesn't make sense. It's all geared to fucking guide the people

00:56:29.520 who are paying the lobbyists through the tax code. I'm telling you fucking taxes. I'm telling

00:56:34.960 you the revolution is coming, man. Somebody, somebody is going to figure out how to take this

00:56:39.720 device right here that you and I, you know, promote our businesses, live our lives. Someone

00:56:44.220 is going to take these devices, which is how the entire world is getting their news,

00:56:48.940 their information, communicating with mom and grandma, posting all their pictures of

00:56:52.160 their new frigging puppy on Facebook or whatever. This is the revolution. This is what's going

00:56:56.160 to happen is someone will orate the message that you and I are talking about, put it out

00:57:00.060 there in a, in a reasonable, practical way. And people are going to be like, that actually

00:57:03.740 makes sense. Well, they should. Yeah. They're going to be like, why isn't it that way? So,

00:57:07.480 so, so when the guy who comes in with the 13,000 page tax code, he's going to be

00:57:11.020 now, like no one's been able to do this yet. Like this is the cool part. This is the stuff

00:57:14.180 that gets me excited. This is the sexy shit about politics is now all of a sudden the

00:57:17.660 guy trying to explain the 13,000 page tax code is like, the fuck did he just say? Like

00:57:22.140 this sounds really, really simple. This will work. Right. Why are you explaining? So, so

00:57:26.140 to explain to me foreign policy, there's an outline of America. Like I live in America.

00:57:30.540 I want to protect America and keep America safe and fed and, and, and whatever, whatever.

00:57:34.720 Explain to me why we need to spend X amount of billions of dollars every year overseas

00:57:39.000 when this outline right here is not taken care of. Like that's common sense shit, dude.

00:57:44.160 Think about this though. This is really cool to think about because the reason this hasn't

00:57:48.740 happened before is the same reason that businesses used to be able to produce any product they

00:57:56.580 wanted. It didn't matter if it was good or not and spend millions of dollars advertising

00:58:00.060 it and the product would sell. Okay. The reason the politics has gotten the way that it's

00:58:04.580 gotten is because there is, there has been no voice for us. Right. You know, they've

00:58:10.520 owned the media. Right. Okay. They could go to five people in America and say, we want

00:58:15.580 you to put this message out and we'll give you these special benefits. And that's what

00:58:19.020 they fucking do. And they make you the normal common sense speaker look like a freaking

00:58:22.800 moron. They spin you in the media and then all of a sudden you're tanked and you're done.

00:58:25.620 Right. And they can't do that anymore because now we all have a voice. And so what they could

00:58:30.060 try to do that, but the reality is it just stirs up the hornet's nest. Right. You know,

00:58:35.060 it's so just like big companies can't put out a product, you know, they can't put out

00:58:40.360 a pair of sunglasses that the first time you wear them, they break because guess what?

00:58:43.900 It'll be all over the fucking internet tomorrow. Right. Like, Hey, don't buy these sunglasses

00:58:47.020 because they're shit. They're not going to be able to keep pushing that agenda because

00:58:50.880 we all have a voice now. But I think the, what I'm trying to bring is a realization of

00:58:57.300 that voice. Like, Hey guys, you listening right now, you have a voice. You know what

00:59:02.800 I mean? And just because they tell you have to pick Democrat or Republican, that's going

00:59:07.520 to change. And the earlier that you get involved in creating a better, you know, situation now,

00:59:13.320 the more influence you're going to have later.

00:59:15.680 Well, doing what you and I are doing, I feel like it's, it's the grassroots, what real true

00:59:19.360 grassroots is. And, and it's speaking things and or rating them clearly, you know, efficiently,

00:59:24.280 effectively and that we've been all over the board, obviously talking here, but the reality

00:59:28.160 is dinner talk, man. Yeah, man. Dinner conversation. And this is the shit that actually people care

00:59:32.060 about. This is the stuff that people like, it actually affects their lives and yet no

00:59:36.220 one has been able to orate it, you know, simply. But I think what you and I are doing and being

00:59:40.980 as exposing as we are and, and sharing as authentically and passionately what I'm seeing

00:59:46.300 in the marketplace and what I'm seeing just, just through social media and everything else

00:59:49.280 is people are, there's more and more people that are speaking up saying, hell yeah, dude,

00:59:53.000 that makes freaking sense. I like that. And at the end of the day, it's going to take

00:59:56.060 leaders. It's going to take people that are willing to go out and lead the freaking troops.

01:00:00.240 But at the end of the day, like I want people to realize that they're not an island.

01:00:04.160 No. And the conversation you and I are having right now, there's a lot of people, it's the

01:00:07.380 bobblehead theory. People are like shaking their head like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes

01:00:10.360 sense. And at the end of the day, once the freaking people that are nodding their head

01:00:13.420 saying, amen, now have a plat, a path and a plan and someone to follow and something

01:00:18.860 that actually makes sense. Dude, that's when shit's going to start changing. Dude. And the other thing

01:00:22.920 is, is people have to start understanding that they have to let go of their fucking

01:00:28.960 passionate, the R or the D, like, and you identify yourself that way as a Republican

01:00:34.700 or Democrat. And, you know, your, your passion for that, you know, causes you to not like

01:00:42.800 allow for true conversation. Like if I've got somebody, you know, cause I always get into

01:00:48.300 with typically Democrat people because they're so passionate and I say something and then

01:00:54.020 they come back and they say, Wendy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, bro,

01:00:57.820 I'm not trying to attack you. You know, I'm just trying to pose a realistic solution. And

01:01:02.180 I think us as Americans would realize that we're not the enemy of each other. Right. That we're

01:01:08.420 just being tricked into thinking that way. And to have a realistic conversation about, you

01:01:14.620 know, what we really need to do for the betterment of the next 100 or 200 or 300 years in America,

01:01:20.400 this is a crucial time. It just is, man. We're seeing things that we've never seen before.

01:01:26.320 The, you know, the government is pushing the limits of what I believe is moral and reality.

01:01:34.380 Um, and we're losing a lot of things in our, in our, in our country. And you know, do we have the

01:01:40.660 next generation of kids who are from the ages of 12 to 18 years old right now that understand

01:01:46.560 what it would take to go win a fucking war against another country? Because here's the reality guys

01:01:51.840 of other country, you know, some, some other country, I'm not going to name any names, but if

01:01:56.420 they want to come bomb the United States, they're not bombing fucking white neighborhoods or black

01:02:01.380 neighborhoods only, or Chinese neighborhoods only. Guess what? They're bombing. They're

01:02:04.220 bombing fucking America. So instead of fucking fighting ourselves and being like, Hey, you

01:02:08.520 motherfuckers, you don't like me cause I'm poor. You don't like me cause I'm rich. You don't like

01:02:12.020 me cause I'm black or this or that or whatever. How about we realize that like all that shit is

01:02:16.660 really irrelevant. And what we need to think about is the next 20 year old kids from 20 to fucking

01:02:22.640 15 or 12 years old, or have we raised them to go out and protect the country?

01:02:27.980 Have we, I don't, I don't know that we have, I think we're getting into a scary time, man.

01:02:34.120 And I, this isn't taking nothing away from the young kids. Cause I know there's always going

01:02:37.700 to be younger kids with massive fucking heart and massive American pride that want to go

01:02:43.000 out and, and, and do what needs to be done. But here's the thing, man. And I agree with you.

01:02:49.720 We don't need to be everywhere else. We need to worry about here. Yep. You know what I mean?

01:02:53.880 And fuck man, it's not that complicated. It's really not. That's why I like when the,

01:02:59.260 when the people criticize, you know, I get criticism for saying that we shouldn't take

01:03:03.140 these Syrians dude. Why is that our responsibility? You know what I mean? We have fucking how many

01:03:08.740 people here that we need to take care of? I mean, it's just like the map you said,

01:03:12.080 all the arrows pointing in. Yep. Let's solve our problems so then we can solve their problems.

01:03:15.980 I really do feel for the other countries, but you know how the other countries got the way

01:03:20.020 that they are the same way we're getting the way that we are by not saying shit, not speaking up,

01:03:25.440 not, not being afraid, you know, and that's bad news for us, man. You guys who were listening to

01:03:30.980 this, I mean, the fact that you're even listening to this podcast, you know, shows that you think a

01:03:35.920 different way than most people, but you know, we're in fucking trouble. I believe that, you know,

01:03:42.620 and I believe that for the next 20 years, if we don't get shit turned around and we can start it by

01:03:47.700 keeping score fucking soccer games again, which is the funniest thing about it. You know what I

01:03:51.960 mean? It's very simple shit. Yep. I think personal responsibility and you, you touched on it, Sean

01:04:00.160 parenthood. I mean, it's all connected, all of it. I don't know, man. I don't have all the answers in,

01:04:08.040 but I mean, I know that we've got a fucked up deal right now. You don't have to have all the answers.

01:04:12.980 You just got to actually create some, some movement in a different direction, man. That's

01:04:17.240 it. That's where it starts is creating some sort of different movement in a different direction.

01:04:20.580 That's, that's not the same. Dude, I think most people are just happy with like their life.

01:04:24.640 They're like, cause they've been washed. They've been brought up to be a cog, you know,

01:04:28.660 and they're like, fuck it, man. I'm making my, you know, my decent living. I got a house,

01:04:32.400 I got a car, you know, they're a mortgage up to their eyeballs with all their shit and they're

01:04:37.260 under the illusion they have all the shit when in reality don't have anything. Right. You know what I

01:04:40.420 mean? They're worth their whole lives to have nothing, you know, die with nothing, be poor

01:04:44.840 and, and, and it wasn't always that way, man. Yep. You know, and then not only that on top of

01:04:50.040 it, you've got the media villainizing success as if it's fucking evil. You know, I've always

01:04:56.660 believed it's my obligation, you know, to do the best that I can. When, isn't that the way

01:05:02.040 we're supposed to do shit? Yeah. Like you're supposed to be the best that you could be. I don't

01:05:08.000 know. The art, it's good enough for the army, right? It's how it should be. Yeah. It's how

01:05:10.560 it should be. I don't know. Guys, check out the website, the MFCEO.com. Uh, not exactly

01:05:17.200 sure which page this will be on yet, but you'll find it if you go to the website. Sean, what's

01:05:23.020 your social media connections? Uh, you can find me on Facebook at, uh, facebook.com forward

01:05:27.620 slash S Whalen, uh, or you can go to lions, not sheep or Sean Whalen.com. Well, Sean, thanks

01:05:33.840 for joining us again. That was all over the place, but that was lively and energetic

01:05:38.580 conversation. I like this. Oh, I'm hungry. I'm hungry. Like we actually should have had

01:05:42.260 dinner here cause I'm freaking hungry. Like, dude, I like, uh, I like the, I mean, even

01:05:47.760 though this one was politically based, I like the idea of having like a dinner conversation

01:05:51.320 format once in a while. You know what I mean? Not like we're not sitting here going off of

01:05:54.720 a straight up list of shit to talk about. You know, I, I, I dig that. I think we should

01:05:59.480 do it more often. Maybe not just about, you know, not just about politics, but just shit.

01:06:03.020 Everything. Life. Right. Stuff that actually matters to people. Right. Yeah. Guys, thanks

01:06:07.400 for listening so much. And, uh, we will catch you next time.

REAL AF with Andy Frisella - January 05, 2016

Dinner Conversation with Sean Whalen, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO36

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