REAL AF with Andy Frisella - March 17, 2016


Everyone You Admire Was Once a Fraud, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO54

Topics
feeling like a fraud cockiness in leadership inner voice
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Andy Frisella
Mentioned
Jay-Z Tony Robbins Jen Sincero Seth Godin Tim Grover Snapchat Dwayne Vaughn Blah
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12 minutes

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2,609

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Misogyny

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Hate speech

7

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Dwayne " the Rock Johnson" Johnson is a rapper, entrepreneur, author, and podcaster. In this episode of Thursday Thunder, DJ Semtex and Andy talk about what it means to be a CEO and how to overcome the feeling of being a fraud.

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00:00:00.000 I do is work, work, work, never run the sidelines, I only hustle, hustle, never take your day
00:00:06.240 off, I only work, work, work, I don't mess around, kid, I only can, can, can, money never
00:00:12.500 seems to get you, all I do is work, all I do is work, all I do is work, all I do is work.
00:00:17.600 Hey guys, what's up?
00:00:18.820 You're listening to the MFCEO Project. 0.99
00:00:20.900 I'm Andy and I am the motherfucking CEO. 0.99
00:00:24.120 My goal for you guys is to get you to be motherfucking CEOs. 0.99
00:00:27.620 But Andy, I don't have a business. 0.99
00:00:29.960 Yeah, you do.
00:00:30.920 You have the business of you. 1.00
00:00:32.900 And do you want to be a little bitch CEO or do you want to be a badass motherfucking CEO? 1.00
00:00:38.520 Pretty sure you want the latter. 1.00
00:00:40.960 Today we're going to bring you some Thursday Thunder.
00:00:42.640 We don't usually have the pastor of disaster in here on Thursday Thunder, but today we do.
00:00:49.340 And I don't even, you know, what do you want to hit on?
00:00:53.160 Yeah, well I'm going to be a little self-serving here because something kind of bizarre, I mean
00:00:58.000 it felt good, but it was bizarre.
00:00:59.600 It kind of threw me off a little bit.
00:01:01.400 Happened at the Gary Vee event for me.
00:01:03.620 You know what that was?
00:01:04.820 What's that?
00:01:06.140 I had people coming up wanting selfies and autographs.
00:01:10.260 And I had a very interesting response to that.
00:01:12.540 Like I got in my car and drove home that night and I was like, it seems kind of weird.
00:01:19.980 Like I feel like a fraud a little bit.
00:01:21.660 Right.
00:01:21.880 Like did I deserve to be part of that?
00:01:23.440 Did I deserve to have that kind of attention?
00:01:25.240 And I actually happened to come across an old, you know, cause I'm going through your stuff
00:01:29.420 and I actually happened to come across something that you, you wrote where basically you said
00:01:35.040 that, listen, at some point when you're trying to be great and you're trying to do something
00:01:38.000 great, um, you're going to feel like a fraud.
00:01:41.320 And one of the things you said was I guarantee that everybody that you've ever admired, who's
00:01:45.980 ever accomplished anything at one point or another has felt like a fraud.
00:01:50.160 Um, yeah, man, you know, let's, let's break this down.
00:01:55.460 We're all regular people at the end of the day, the biggest celebrity that you guys follow
00:01:59.660 in life for me, the biggest celebrity I follow is the rock.
00:02:03.180 Okay.
00:02:03.680 I guarantee you.
00:02:04.840 And this is why I like the rock.
00:02:06.060 The rock's a normal dude.
00:02:07.700 You know what I'm saying?
00:02:08.560 I guarantee you him.
00:02:10.720 He's probably used to it now, but when he first started having quote unquote fans or having
00:02:15.240 attention, he felt like there was a little bit inside of him that was like, whoa, this
00:02:18.780 is weird.
00:02:19.180 I'm just, I'm just Dwayne.
00:02:20.860 You know what I mean?
00:02:21.860 And I remember that post that you're talking about because I had people disagreeing with
00:02:26.300 it.
00:02:26.480 They're like, cause it said everybody who is somebody used to be a fraud and the, the, the 1.00
00:02:33.640 connotation, most of the people were too dumb to figure out what the fuck that meant. 0.98
00:02:38.760 What that means is when you start off on a path and you start off on doing something great, 0.99
00:02:44.580 or you start off on being a new you, it's going to feel weird.
00:02:49.080 You're going to have this feeling in the back end that there's like this secret.
00:02:53.180 Nobody knows.
00:02:53.860 And the secret is that you're secretly like a nerd that just happens to like, you know,
00:02:58.060 be doing this thing and blah, blah, blah.
00:02:59.820 Dude, that's normal.
00:03:01.400 That's normal.
00:03:02.600 Everybody starts there.
00:03:03.720 That was the point of that post.
00:03:05.180 Everybody, when they start their new thing or what they're going to be or their brand,
00:03:09.780 because we talk about brands a lot here. 0.99
00:03:11.320 But when Jay-Z started being a fucking Jay-Z, you know, and not, you know, whoever the fuck 0.98
00:03:18.660 he was before Jay-Z, you know, when he became the CEO, right? 0.99
00:03:24.360 I'm sure when he first started, you know, he's consciously putting out information, content,
00:03:29.920 words, music, an image that felt like it was not really who he was.
00:03:37.000 But the reality is, is that is who you are to everybody else.
00:03:44.120 So when people come up to you, when you're trying to do something, become a CEO, become
00:03:48.140 an extreme athlete, become a good author, become this, that, whatever it is you're trying to
00:03:53.500 become, you're going to have that sense inside of you that feels inauthentic.
00:03:59.460 That's part of the game.
00:04:01.440 Okay.
00:04:01.840 A lot of people struggle with that because they want to be, you know, who they are in
00:04:08.660 public and who they are in private.
00:04:10.160 And, and I would say that the best way to overcome this feeling of being a fraud is going
00:04:17.540 to be by aligning those two things.
00:04:21.180 You know what I mean?
00:04:22.280 Sometimes being cool in public and creating a great brand, personal brand means actually 0.96
00:04:28.100 becoming more cool in private and doing some cool shit and showing people. 1.00
00:04:31.680 If you sit on your fucking couch all day and then take a picture of how you're out, you 1.00
00:04:36.520 know, for five minutes in front of a fucking rented Lamborghini, you're going to feel like 1.00
00:04:40.880 a fucking fraud. 1.00
00:04:41.600 You know why? 1.00
00:04:41.960 Because you are a fraud. 1.00
00:04:43.340 You know what I'm saying? 1.00
00:04:44.780 Yes.
00:04:45.160 So total sense.
00:04:45.980 Yeah.
00:04:46.220 So like having that feeling of like, wow, people think I'm somebody when in reality I'm, you
00:04:52.140 know, I'm just me.
00:04:53.960 I think that's a normal part of being successful.
00:04:56.140 That's just part of the deal.
00:04:57.640 I would also say that people should on some level give themselves some credit because
00:05:04.040 it means that you have a modicum of humility.
00:05:06.140 You're actually, you have good self-awareness.
00:05:08.440 You have humility.
00:05:09.260 You're, you have a recognition.
00:05:10.940 Oh dude, trust me. 0.98
00:05:11.580 There's a lot of people out there that, that don't feel weird when fucking people come up 0.99
00:05:16.440 to them and think there's somebody special because they fucking believe that there's 0.99
00:05:19.500 somebody even more special than that. 0.99
00:05:21.080 Right.
00:05:21.360 You know, and those people are called douchebags by the way, you know, so I think that's normal, 0.64
00:05:27.200 dude.
00:05:27.500 You know, I think a lot of people struggle with that. 0.99
00:05:29.280 I know this isn't the normal fucking Thursday thunder. 0.99
00:05:31.380 Let's fire you up, blah, blah, blah. 0.98
00:05:33.160 But I think it's a valid thing to talk about because I think, you know, when you start deciding
00:05:38.360 the direction of where you want to go and I think what it comes down to is permission,
00:05:44.000 you know, people, they decide they want to start putting out certain things on Snapchat
00:05:48.140 or Instagram or on Facebook or making videos on YouTube and they put information out and
00:05:52.940 you're going to be, you get questioned by like this group of people that knew or know
00:05:57.540 you on the backside and they're like, who, why are you doing that?
00:06:01.440 Blah, blah, blah.
00:06:01.860 And it makes you feel like you're faking it when in reality, you're not thinking anything.
00:06:05.420 You're trying to build something.
00:06:06.780 Right.
00:06:07.360 You know what I mean?
00:06:07.880 People that gave you a hard time for, oh, Andy, are you Tony Robbins?
00:06:10.480 Yeah. 0.99
00:06:10.620 Why are you, why are you trying to post all this motivational shit? 1.00
00:06:12.900 Now those same motherfuckers are showing up in my talks. 1.00
00:06:15.840 You know what I'm saying? 1.00
00:06:16.900 Yeah.
00:06:17.080 So, you know, everybody feels that way.
00:06:20.660 There's a good, uh, there's a good book that addresses this.
00:06:23.740 Um, it's, it's, uh, how to be a bad-ass by Jen Sincero.
00:06:27.360 Great book.
00:06:28.520 Uh, I, I really enjoyed the book.
00:06:30.820 Um, the audio book's really good is what the one I listened to.
00:06:33.380 She reads it herself.
00:06:34.500 I always liked that.
00:06:35.340 Yeah.
00:06:35.680 When the author reads.
00:06:36.880 Um, but, uh, it addresses this, that, that everybody has this like inner voice that almost
00:06:45.060 makes them feel bad.
00:06:46.960 Really the purpose of that inner voice is to keep you in check.
00:06:49.840 It's not to make you feel overly guilty for whatever it is you're doing. 0.99
00:06:54.520 And a lot of people might be listening to this and be like, what the fuck are you talking 0.99
00:06:56.980 about? 0.99
00:06:57.240 Well, that's because you haven't done anything yet because I get it too.
00:07:00.340 I get what you're saying.
00:07:01.100 Like, dude, when people come up and they're like, dude, I want your autograph, blah, blah,
00:07:03.780 blah.
00:07:03.980 Or I want, I'm like, bro, are you sure?
00:07:07.900 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:09.080 Like, it's just, you know, but you have to realize when you put out good content and you,
00:07:14.220 you, you make like, cause like what I am is a, somebody who gives permission, right? 0.99
00:07:20.000 I'm somebody who says, Hey, it's okay to go out and be a bad motherfucker. 0.99
00:07:24.120 It's okay to go out there and make content. 0.99
00:07:25.900 It's okay to go out there and say what you want.
00:07:27.980 It's okay to go out there and hustle, right?
00:07:30.520 I'm a guy who gives permission.
00:07:31.800 So when you're the guy who's given permission, people are going to look up to that and say, 0.95
00:07:35.780 man, that's fucking cool.
00:07:37.280 And they, they, they feel a sense like that. 0.98
00:07:39.340 We're like, yeah, dude, I'm inspired by that. 1.00
00:07:41.000 And it makes me want to go out and do shit. 0.99
00:07:42.780 So people are going to appreciate that. 1.00
00:07:44.320 So you have to look at it as like, Hey, that's just their way of showing appreciation.
00:07:47.620 You know what I mean?
00:07:48.420 Yeah.
00:07:48.720 That makes total sense.
00:07:49.680 Not like they're weird psycho stalkers.
00:07:51.600 It's like, Hey, this person inspired me to go out and do this, this, and this.
00:07:55.920 And I want something.
00:07:57.060 It's cool to shake their hand.
00:07:58.300 It's cool to meet them in person.
00:07:59.420 And I want something to remember that moment.
00:08:00.800 It's a big deal to people, you know, and you should make it a big deal to people.
00:08:05.020 Yeah.
00:08:05.320 No, it's definitely very flattering.
00:08:06.840 And I, and I think, you know, whenever anybody attempts something great, even if you're the
00:08:11.760 most confident person in the world, there is a part of you, like you said, that it's
00:08:16.080 like, Holy cow, I'm doing this.
00:08:18.440 Right.
00:08:18.760 I'm doing this.
00:08:19.600 You know, and, and it's exhilarating and it feels good, but it can be a little unnerving.
00:08:23.400 And I know a lot of people struggle with that.
00:08:24.780 So I, well, I think that, I think that biggest, I think the thing you're, you're talking about
00:08:29.540 the internal voice is one of the things that really keeps people from being great.
00:08:33.640 They listen to that voice too much.
00:08:36.020 You know what I mean?
00:08:36.900 Right.
00:08:37.160 It's like the voice that says, Vaughn, you're, you're not a podcaster.
00:08:41.500 You're not a guy who signs autographs. 1.00
00:08:43.120 You're, you're just a fucking, you're, you're a ghost writer. 0.99
00:08:45.720 You know, you're just a guy who, who, uh, you know, helps out on a podcast or whatever. 1.00
00:08:51.180 And you, and that voice like plays down what you really are.
00:08:55.380 Right.
00:08:55.780 When the purpose of that voice is not to play down what you really are.
00:08:59.140 The purpose of that voice is to keep you from going so far the other way that you're 1.00
00:09:04.400 an arrogant prick. 1.00
00:09:05.420 Right. 1.00
00:09:06.140 Right.
00:09:06.640 That's a great point.
00:09:07.540 Right.
00:09:07.880 Yeah.
00:09:08.080 So let that voice serve its purpose.
00:09:10.560 Go out, be you hustle, be the best. 1.00
00:09:13.120 You, you can be and let that voice keep you from being an asshole, but don't listen to 1.00
00:09:18.700 it too much because that's the hair voice. 1.00
00:09:21.120 It's Seth Godin calls it the lizard brain.
00:09:23.260 All right.
00:09:23.940 It's the part of your brain that keeps you from really doing great things.
00:09:28.560 And I don't know one great athlete.
00:09:31.820 I don't know one great, um, performer.
00:09:35.040 I don't know one great, uh, CEO or one great salesperson or anybody great at anything that
00:09:42.380 doesn't have a part of them that if they verbalized about themselves, people would say, God, you're
00:09:48.360 so cocky, blah, blah, blah, because you have to have that edge to make it.
00:09:52.380 So it's okay to have that edge, but just make sure that you're treating people the right
00:09:57.400 way on the other side and that you're, you're, you're still being that caring, good, humble
00:10:02.140 person and people will cheer you on.
00:10:04.920 You know what I mean?
00:10:05.520 Absolutely.
00:10:06.040 So what you're saying is that there's a confidence or cockiness that actually is employed for
00:10:10.420 the good of other people.
00:10:11.740 And then there's a confidence and a cockiness that's just all about you.
00:10:15.280 Yeah.
00:10:15.780 And we, we both know the different types, right?
00:10:18.620 Right.
00:10:18.940 There's certain people that they're, they're cockiness or they're cockiness is not a bad thing,
00:10:24.740 dude.
00:10:25.000 You, you, if you're going to stand in the batter's box of a dude who's throwing a hundred 0.99
00:10:28.760 fucking seven miles an hour, you better be somewhat fucking cocky about your abilities. 0.99
00:10:33.740 Right. 1.00
00:10:34.220 You know what I mean?
00:10:34.880 Right.
00:10:35.440 You've got to have an edge.
00:10:36.920 Right.
00:10:37.340 There's a whole nother book about this called relentless by Tim Grover, which by the way,
00:10:40.640 I got in touch with him.
00:10:41.640 So I want to show.
00:10:42.660 Oh, very cool.
00:10:43.400 Well, on that note too.
00:10:44.640 I mean, let's just ask yourself if you're on a basketball team or, you know, do you want
00:10:49.180 a coach who's cocky?
00:10:50.580 Of course you do.
00:10:51.300 Cause that inspires confidence. 1.00
00:10:52.500 We're going to run out there and kick everybody's ass. 1.00
00:10:54.360 Right. 1.00
00:10:54.760 Exactly.
00:10:55.380 You don't want your leaders to be like, well, I don't know.
00:10:57.520 No, no, dude. 1.00
00:10:58.080 Fuck. 1.00
00:10:58.420 I've had the opposite of coaches. 1.00
00:10:59.840 The opposite of the coaches that does this.
00:11:02.420 You know what?
00:11:03.160 These dudes are big.
00:11:04.280 They're bad.
00:11:05.000 They're fast. 1.00
00:11:06.340 You know, they're going to, if you guys don't execute, they're going to stomp your fucking 1.00
00:11:09.780 heads in. 1.00
00:11:10.560 Dude, that doesn't inspire fucking performance. 0.99
00:11:13.180 You know what inspires performance? 1.00
00:11:15.000 Hey, you guys can fucking do this. 1.00
00:11:17.480 We're going to go out and we're going to stomp these motherfuckers faces in the fucking dirt until 1.00
00:11:22.360 the score is a million to nothing. 1.00
00:11:24.440 You know what I'm saying?
00:11:25.320 Yeah.
00:11:25.600 That's, is that cocky?
00:11:26.840 Yeah.
00:11:27.460 But dudes cocky serves a purpose.
00:11:29.380 And so don't let that inner voice of like, I'm a fraud or I'm not really this, or I'm
00:11:34.500 not as good as what I think I am.
00:11:36.140 Keep you from being great because that will be the ultimate thing that keeps you from being
00:11:42.020 great.
00:11:42.360 Most people blame haters.
00:11:44.340 No, it's not haters.
00:11:45.480 It's you.
00:11:46.320 It's that voice we're talking about.
00:11:47.980 The voice that you're expressing you felt is what most people call haters.
00:11:52.580 I got all these haters.
00:11:53.720 No, you don't.
00:11:54.180 You've got this voice in your head that you haven't gotten under control.
00:11:56.560 Right.
00:11:57.500 You know?
00:11:58.460 Yeah.
00:11:58.740 Well said.
00:11:59.720 Yeah.
00:12:00.080 Well said.
00:12:00.720 Guys, if this is you, which I know it is because all of us have this, learn how to let this
00:12:05.780 voice balance your, your progress out and keep you humble instead of just keeping you
00:12:11.360 back.
00:12:12.380 All right.
00:12:13.060 Because you guys all have greatness.
00:12:14.780 You all have big things in your heart.
00:12:17.020 You all have big action actions that are capable of great things.
00:12:20.380 But if you listen to that inner voice all the time, tell you how you're not this, you're
00:12:23.900 not that.
00:12:24.480 Guess what?
00:12:25.100 You're not going to be this or that. 0.99
00:12:26.800 You're going to be the fucking lowest common denominator version of yourself, which is nothing 0.99
00:12:31.780 to brag about. 1.00
00:12:32.920 All right. 1.00
00:12:33.560 So go out, kick ass, fucking dominate and tell that voice to fuck off. 1.00
00:12:41.720 Cause I only never take your day off. 1.00
00:12:45.140 I only work, work, work.