Everyone You Admire Was Once a Fraud, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO54
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Summary
Dwayne " the Rock Johnson" Johnson is a rapper, entrepreneur, author, and podcaster. In this episode of Thursday Thunder, DJ Semtex and Andy talk about what it means to be a CEO and how to overcome the feeling of being a fraud.
Transcript
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I do is work, work, work, never run the sidelines, I only hustle, hustle, never take your day
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off, I only work, work, work, I don't mess around, kid, I only can, can, can, money never
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seems to get you, all I do is work, all I do is work, all I do is work, all I do is work.
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My goal for you guys is to get you to be motherfucking CEOs.
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And do you want to be a little bitch CEO or do you want to be a badass motherfucking CEO?
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Today we're going to bring you some Thursday Thunder.
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We don't usually have the pastor of disaster in here on Thursday Thunder, but today we do.
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And I don't even, you know, what do you want to hit on?
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Yeah, well I'm going to be a little self-serving here because something kind of bizarre, I mean
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I had people coming up wanting selfies and autographs.
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Like I got in my car and drove home that night and I was like, it seems kind of weird.
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And I actually happened to come across an old, you know, cause I'm going through your stuff
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and I actually happened to come across something that you, you wrote where basically you said
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that, listen, at some point when you're trying to be great and you're trying to do something
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And one of the things you said was I guarantee that everybody that you've ever admired, who's
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ever accomplished anything at one point or another has felt like a fraud.
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Um, yeah, man, you know, let's, let's break this down.
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We're all regular people at the end of the day, the biggest celebrity that you guys follow
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in life for me, the biggest celebrity I follow is the rock.
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He's probably used to it now, but when he first started having quote unquote fans or having
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attention, he felt like there was a little bit inside of him that was like, whoa, this
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And I remember that post that you're talking about because I had people disagreeing with
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They're like, cause it said everybody who is somebody used to be a fraud and the, the, the
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connotation, most of the people were too dumb to figure out what the fuck that meant.
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What that means is when you start off on a path and you start off on doing something great,
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or you start off on being a new you, it's going to feel weird.
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You're going to have this feeling in the back end that there's like this secret.
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And the secret is that you're secretly like a nerd that just happens to like, you know,
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Everybody, when they start their new thing or what they're going to be or their brand,
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But when Jay-Z started being a fucking Jay-Z, you know, and not, you know, whoever the fuck
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he was before Jay-Z, you know, when he became the CEO, right?
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I'm sure when he first started, you know, he's consciously putting out information, content,
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words, music, an image that felt like it was not really who he was.
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But the reality is, is that is who you are to everybody else.
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So when people come up to you, when you're trying to do something, become a CEO, become
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an extreme athlete, become a good author, become this, that, whatever it is you're trying to
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become, you're going to have that sense inside of you that feels inauthentic.
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A lot of people struggle with that because they want to be, you know, who they are in
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And, and I would say that the best way to overcome this feeling of being a fraud is going
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Sometimes being cool in public and creating a great brand, personal brand means actually
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becoming more cool in private and doing some cool shit and showing people.
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If you sit on your fucking couch all day and then take a picture of how you're out, you
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know, for five minutes in front of a fucking rented Lamborghini, you're going to feel like
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So like having that feeling of like, wow, people think I'm somebody when in reality I'm, you
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I think that's a normal part of being successful.
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I would also say that people should on some level give themselves some credit because
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There's a lot of people out there that, that don't feel weird when fucking people come up
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to them and think there's somebody special because they fucking believe that there's
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You know, and those people are called douchebags by the way, you know, so I think that's normal,
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You know, I think a lot of people struggle with that.
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I know this isn't the normal fucking Thursday thunder.
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But I think it's a valid thing to talk about because I think, you know, when you start deciding
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the direction of where you want to go and I think what it comes down to is permission,
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you know, people, they decide they want to start putting out certain things on Snapchat
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or Instagram or on Facebook or making videos on YouTube and they put information out and
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you're going to be, you get questioned by like this group of people that knew or know
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you on the backside and they're like, who, why are you doing that?
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And it makes you feel like you're faking it when in reality, you're not thinking anything.
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People that gave you a hard time for, oh, Andy, are you Tony Robbins?
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Why are you, why are you trying to post all this motivational shit?
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Now those same motherfuckers are showing up in my talks.
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There's a good, uh, there's a good book that addresses this.
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Um, it's, it's, uh, how to be a bad-ass by Jen Sincero.
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Um, the audio book's really good is what the one I listened to.
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Um, but, uh, it addresses this, that, that everybody has this like inner voice that almost
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Really the purpose of that inner voice is to keep you in check.
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It's not to make you feel overly guilty for whatever it is you're doing.
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And a lot of people might be listening to this and be like, what the fuck are you talking
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Well, that's because you haven't done anything yet because I get it too.
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Like, dude, when people come up and they're like, dude, I want your autograph, blah, blah,
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Like, it's just, you know, but you have to realize when you put out good content and you,
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you, you make like, cause like what I am is a, somebody who gives permission, right?
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I'm somebody who says, Hey, it's okay to go out and be a bad motherfucker.
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It's okay to go out there and say what you want.
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So when you're the guy who's given permission, people are going to look up to that and say,
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So you have to look at it as like, Hey, that's just their way of showing appreciation.
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It's like, Hey, this person inspired me to go out and do this, this, and this.
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It's a big deal to people, you know, and you should make it a big deal to people.
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And I, and I think, you know, whenever anybody attempts something great, even if you're the
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most confident person in the world, there is a part of you, like you said, that it's
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You know, and, and it's exhilarating and it feels good, but it can be a little unnerving.
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So I, well, I think that, I think that biggest, I think the thing you're, you're talking about
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the internal voice is one of the things that really keeps people from being great.
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It's like the voice that says, Vaughn, you're, you're not a podcaster.
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You're, you're just a fucking, you're, you're a ghost writer.
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You know, you're just a guy who, who, uh, you know, helps out on a podcast or whatever.
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And you, and that voice like plays down what you really are.
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When the purpose of that voice is not to play down what you really are.
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The purpose of that voice is to keep you from going so far the other way that you're
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You, you can be and let that voice keep you from being an asshole, but don't listen to
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It's the part of your brain that keeps you from really doing great things.
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I don't know one great, uh, CEO or one great salesperson or anybody great at anything that
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doesn't have a part of them that if they verbalized about themselves, people would say, God, you're
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so cocky, blah, blah, blah, because you have to have that edge to make it.
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So it's okay to have that edge, but just make sure that you're treating people the right
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way on the other side and that you're, you're, you're still being that caring, good, humble
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So what you're saying is that there's a confidence or cockiness that actually is employed for
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And then there's a confidence and a cockiness that's just all about you.
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And we, we both know the different types, right?
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There's certain people that they're, they're cockiness or they're cockiness is not a bad thing,
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You, you, if you're going to stand in the batter's box of a dude who's throwing a hundred
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fucking seven miles an hour, you better be somewhat fucking cocky about your abilities.
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There's a whole nother book about this called relentless by Tim Grover, which by the way,
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I mean, let's just ask yourself if you're on a basketball team or, you know, do you want
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We're going to run out there and kick everybody's ass.
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You don't want your leaders to be like, well, I don't know.
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You know, they're going to, if you guys don't execute, they're going to stomp your fucking
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Dude, that doesn't inspire fucking performance.
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We're going to go out and we're going to stomp these motherfuckers faces in the fucking dirt until
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And so don't let that inner voice of like, I'm a fraud or I'm not really this, or I'm
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Keep you from being great because that will be the ultimate thing that keeps you from being
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The voice that you're expressing you felt is what most people call haters.
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You've got this voice in your head that you haven't gotten under control.
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Guys, if this is you, which I know it is because all of us have this, learn how to let this
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voice balance your, your progress out and keep you humble instead of just keeping you
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You all have big action actions that are capable of great things.
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But if you listen to that inner voice all the time, tell you how you're not this, you're
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You're going to be the fucking lowest common denominator version of yourself, which is nothing
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So go out, kick ass, fucking dominate and tell that voice to fuck off.