How to Deal with the Highs and Lows, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO234
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Summary
In this episode of the MFCEO Project, I talk about the number one thing that holds people back in business and entrepreneurship. And it's not haters. It's you. And the reason you're holding yourself back is because you're afraid of what might happen if you try something new.
Transcript
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I can stack them hundreds to the roof. I ain't stopping till they stack to the moon.
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Without me, my family wouldn't have food. Anybody go against me gotta lose.
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What is up, guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy. I'm your host.
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And I am the handsomest motherfucking CEO there is.
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All right. I've never lied to you guys. That might have been a lie. I don't know.
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But Tyler's rolling his eyes at me. What? You jealous now?
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You don't want me telling everybody how handsome I am so it ruins your crush on me?
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We don't know about Tyler's secret. Anyway, today is Friday.
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And if you're new to the podcast, you know nothing about it.
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And what we are is a personal development slash entrepreneurship or entrepreneurship slash personal development.
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Podcast. We are going to talk about a lot of things on this podcast.
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And if you want to learn, I suggest that you go back from the very beginning for a couple reasons.
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One, you need to listen to the podcast to get some perspective about where I come from.
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Two, the first podcast will show you how awful I was at podcasting when I started, which is the number one lesson in business.
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You're going to fucking suck when you start, when you try to learn a new skill, when you try to do anything new.
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And it's most people's unwillingness to suck in front of other people that holds them back from becoming great at something.
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I was just on my buddy Mark Bell's podcast earlier today.
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Today is actually Thursday, but you're going to hear this on Friday.
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Today, and he asked me what I thought the number one thing was that held people back in success and entrepreneurship.
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And I could tell him before he even finished the question, I could tell him what it was.
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Because I get hired to speak at these huge events.
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And I get paid a lot of money to speak at these events.
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I'm not ashamed to say I get paid $75,000 per event, per hour.
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And the reason I get paid that is because I share the real skills that it's going to take to become successful.
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And if I'm speaking to 4,000 or 5,000 people or 10,000 people, you've got to think about the math and multiply that out.
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And some of them are earning six and seven figures.
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And I'm always expecting, like, legitimate, practical questions.
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Like, hey, Andy, how do you do this in business?
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And almost every single question I get, it doesn't matter if it's someone who's new in business or someone who's making six, seven figures.
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And the number one thing that holds you back isn't haters.
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You don't have people slashing the tires on your car.
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The reason most people are held back is because they are afraid of what might happen.
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They are afraid of what might happen if they make that post on Facebook and their aunt Connie sees it and then she laughs at them at Christmas or makes fun of them or their friends from high school or friends from college or friends from grade school see it and laugh or make fun of them or think something about them.
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These people are not actually thinking those things.
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Number one, you have no proof that they will think those things.
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It's you being your own worst hater and being scared of what could possibly happen if you decided to do this thing, whatever that thing is.
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And the reason you're afraid is because somewhere along the line you got made fun of.
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Somewhere along the line your friends made fun of you and you're afraid of it happening again.
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Let me tell you, when you step out to do something great, people are going to laugh.
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When you step out to do something great, people are going to make fun of you.
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When you step out to do something great, people are going to doubt you. They're not going to
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believe in you because you haven't given them anything to actually believe in.
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These things are going to happen, but they haven't happened yet. You're afraid of them
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happening and that's what's keeping you from moving forward. And it blows my mind that that's
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the thing that keeps people from going out and building a better life. It's just really hard
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for me to swallow because, dude, let me tell you about the life of an entrepreneur. And now we're
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getting into the meat of what I wanted to talk about. The life of an entrepreneur, the life of
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a successful person is not glitz and glamour, okay? It's not the glory. It's also not the shit.
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Some people make it sound like it's shit, like it's horrible and like it's the worst thing ever.
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It's not. Are you going to have people that make fun of you? Yes. Are you going to have people
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that talk shit? Yes. Are you going to have uncomfortable situations and high levels of
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stress and tons of situations that are going to make you feel bad and make you feel like shit and
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wear you out and stress you out? Yes, absolutely. But you're also going to have situations where you
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win in front of everybody. You're going to have situations where all the people who talk that shit
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are going to see you fucking win. You're going to have situations where all the stress, all the
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frustration, all the negativity, and all the things that you're afraid of happening blow up in other
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people's fucking faces because you're winning. So what I wanted to talk to you guys about today was
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this, managing the highs and lows, okay? And this is not just exclusive to entrepreneurship or success.
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This is about life, all right? If you listen to the podcast, you know, and I've told you guys on
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Instagram many of times that I've suffered from depression for a long time, diagnosed real depression.
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I'm not talking about having a bad fucking day. I'm talking about having a chemical imbalance
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in my brain. Real shit, okay? Now, people hear depression and they think, you know,
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they have two people. You have people who think that like these people are, they can't function and
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they lay in bed all day. And then you have the people who have depression but don't realize they
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have it. And then you also, I guess, have people that think they have it but don't really have it.
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Just real quick, and I want to take a minute to address this. How I found out I had it, I don't
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think I've ever addressed this. When I, as long as I can remember, and you guys have all seen those
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depression commercials where it says like, hey, if you have visions or thoughts of suicide,
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you know, see a doctor, this and that. Well, I always had that. And I always had like visions,
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like actual visions of like shooting myself in the fucking head. All right? I always had those
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visions. And as long as I can remember. And I would see those commercials. And because I had those
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visions for as long as I can remember, and those thoughts for as long as I can remember, I would see
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the commercials and be like, yeah, fucking everybody thinks that. That's what people think.
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Like these, what are you, a fucking pussy? You can't deal with the shit that everybody thinks
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about? Not understanding that not everybody thought like that. Because I didn't have the
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perspective of not feeling that way. So, you know, because I had had it for so long, I didn't realize
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that it wasn't normal. And a lot of people are like this. So like, dude, if you really do have those
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visions, you know, take my advice and go talk to somebody, because there's a lot of things that
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can be done to help with that. But I want to talk more in depth about how to deal with some of this
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shit, specifically the highs and lows. But how I found out that I had it was, I actually ended up
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having like, I guess, a nervous breakdown, if you want to call it that, in like 2012, or 2011-12.
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And I ended up having to see a doctor, because the physical symptoms had manifested themselves to
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where I literally couldn't function. And they thought it was actually a tumor in my brain for a
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couple weeks. And then they found out that it wasn't. And then one of the doctors diagnosed me as
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having depression. And I was like, well, that makes no sense. They put me on some medicine, and I got
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fucking better. Like, literally two weeks later, I fucking felt like a totally different person.
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Um, so my point in this is that, like, dude, if you're having those thoughts, if you're having
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those, uh, those issues, if you're think, if you're actually like thinking about stuff like that,
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realize that you've got something wrong going on. It's not nothing to be ashamed of. Uh, it's
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something that, you know, can be treated. Uh, and there's, there's real answers out there to that
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stuff. Um, and it's not normal to think like that. I haven't thought like that in a long, long time.
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Um, but even with the treatment, uh, I still go through it about once a year, maybe twice a year
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where I don't want to get out of bed, uh, for a couple of days. And I'm really like, just not
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seeing the point in what the fuck I'm doing in any way. And I went through that last week. Uh, last
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week I went, had a couple of days where I was just really fucking bad, uh, really low, really, um,
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not seeing the point to really anything that I was doing. Um, and you know, I, I worked through it.
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Um, I spent a couple of days at my farm. If you follow me on Instagram, you saw that. And I spent
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a couple of days mowing some grass, doing some simple shit, just kind of recharging.
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And, um, you know, now I'm feeling good. I'm back in my routine. I feel fucking great. And,
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and what I, the point of me telling you this is, is this, like you have to understand
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that there are going to be times when you like, you see all these people on the internet who pretend
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to have it all figured out and pretend to, to have, they never go through lows. They're always
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on, they're always going, they're always this, they're always that. And you see yourself where
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you're going through like highs, like where you have that same passion, that same energy, that same
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drive. And, and then, you know, you might do that for three or four months in a row. And then you
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have like a fucking week where, you know, it's low, it's bad. Everything's going wrong. Everything's
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got you stressed. Everything's got you mad. Everything's got you frustrated. And that could
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go on for a couple of weeks to even longer. It could go on for months. Um, that doesn't necessarily
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mean you're depressed. That's just the life of a fucking entrepreneur. It's a life of an ambitious
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person. And you have to understand. And one of the best things that I have learned over the last
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couple of years is that everything is cyclical. Okay. You're, you're not going to win all the
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time. You're not going to succeed all the time. You're not going to have good shit happen all the
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time. Just like you're not going to have bad shit continue to happen all the time. And so many of us
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will, will focus on the bad shit. Why me? Why is this happening? Why is, why am I always struggling?
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Why am I this? Because we're looking at people who never show the truth of their life. They show
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you the fucking highlight reel. So you look at yourself and you say, what the fuck am I doing
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wrong? Or I don't have what it takes or this or that. And the reason I wanted to talk about this
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is because I want you to know that what they're showing you is not the truth. Okay. Every single
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entrepreneur, I know every single person that sat in this, uh, studio that I'm in right now. Um,
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and every single person I've talked to and met along the way, if we've got on this topic,
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it's been reality. There's highs that are super high and there's lows that are super low. And that
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is the life of being in business. That's the life of being ambitious and actually caring about the path
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that you're on. And so you guys have to understand that when you're going through this process of
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growth and you're pushing and you're pushing and you're pushing and you're working and you're doing
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this and doing that and doing this and you feel like it's not moving. All right. And then you get
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pissed. Then you get frustrated. Then you get angry. Okay. It's important that when you feel low,
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that you continue to execute, it's important that when you don't feel like it, that you continue to
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do things that you did when you felt like it. And that's really the difference. And I've talked
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about this before, guys. Um, it's discipline, right? It's doing the things that you need to do
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that. You know, you need to do when you don't feel like doing it. And especially when you don't feel
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like doing it, because the reality is, is most people are very productive on the highs. Most people are
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very good on the highs, but just being good on the highs, isn't good enough. You know, you have to be
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good all the time. And so learning how to operate through the lows and learning how to know that the
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lows are going to end is a huge deal. Okay. I, I personally think, especially with people who have
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depression, that the reason we see a lot of suicide and the reason that we see people, you know,
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commit suicide is because a, they don't know that they can help themselves. And B, when they get in
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these lows, they don't understand that it's cyclical. Okay. And for me, it's a little different.
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And for people who have depression, it's a little bit different. Okay. It's a, it's a real thing. Um,
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it's not just a feeling or a mood. All right. And, and there's a difference, um, a big difference,
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but what I want people to know who, who, whether you're, you have depression, which, you know,
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most of you don't have, or you're just going through the process. It's normal to have highs
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and lows and they're always cyclical. You're going to have days that are great. You're going to have
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weeks that are great. You're going to have days that are bad. You're going to have weeks that are
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bad. And I just want you to know that that's normal because I see so many people quitting because
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that's what most people do. They, they, they get something, they get excited, they work hard,
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they do their thing, they do everything they can. And then they're like, fuck, it isn't working.
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And they quit. Okay. Or the minute two or three bad things happen, they quit and they change course.
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And you just have to learn as an entrepreneur or as an intrapreneur, somebody who lives by
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entrepreneur guidelines, that when things are frustrating, when things are fucking making you
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mad, when things are making you feel pissed, when you're getting to the point where you're like
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saying, fuck it, dude, that's when you've got to stick it through. That's when you've got to push
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even harder. That's when you've got to make sure that even at a minimum, you're still executing on
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the same path that you were when you're winning, because that's, what's going to push you through
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to a breakthrough. That's, what's going to push you through to the next level. You know, oftentimes I've
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found, and I've heard other people say this too, that when things get really fucking hard, when they,
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when you're about to like, when you're about to say, fuck it, I quit. I'm done with this shit.
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It's not for me and change. If you just stick it through a little bit more, that's when the
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breakthroughs start to happen. You know, that's when the good shit starts to happen. It's just,
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most people don't have the grit and they don't have the perseverance and they don't have the
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mental capacity and they don't have the perspective to know that if they keep pushing, if they keep
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working, if they stick through it at this point, that they are going to make a breakthrough.
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Okay. And that they're going to come out the other side, more energized, more confident because
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they went through that negative period with a new skill. Okay. And you have to think about grit
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and perseverance and your ability to endure, just like you would think of a muscle. The more you
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exercise those things, the stronger they become, the more, the more able you become to push through
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hard situations and deal with anxiety and stress. You know, Tony Robbins said something, um, in his
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personal power CD set that in like, and I remember this back in like literally in like the nineties,
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dude, it stuck with me. Um, he said, you're in, this might not be the exact quote, but he said,
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your success is in direct proportion to how much uncertainty you can deal with. And there is no
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more true quote and life success than that. The more uncertainty that you can deal with,
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the more pressure that you can deal with, the more anxiety that you can deal with and handle,
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the more breakthroughs you're going to have. And you're going to come out the other side stronger.
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Okay. And you have to look at it in phases. Let's say you have a level one low. All right.
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And you've got a hundred people just like on the last podcast or the one before that,
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we talked about the pyramid, how people fall off. All right. Look, you got, let's say 10 levels to,
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to, uh, lows. All right. Cause it's not the highs when people quit. It's the lows.
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You've got 10 levels to it. All right. On level one, you got a hundred people. It gets a little
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bit hard. 10 of them quit. All right. 90 people make it through to level two low.
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So they go up through another high and back through another low. They get to the level
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two low, 10 more people quit. All right. Now we've got 80 people that made it through to level
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three and so on and so on and so on. And what happens is, is the people who end up at level
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10 lows, when they've gone through some massive shit over and over and over again, they understand
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like myself, that it's cyclical and they know it's coming to an end. People lose hope and they
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lose, uh, ambition and they lose drive and they lose focus and they quit because they think
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that the low is permanent and the low is not permanent. It's always cyclical. If you think
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about everything that we have to do in life, the seasons, all right, uh, our lives, like
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the way things just naturally work, it's always on a cycle. And so is your emotions. And so is
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your frustrations. No one out there that you follow on the internet is winning all the fucking
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time. No one out there that you follow on the internet is just crushing it every fucking day.
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They might take a snap story and snap with a fucking smile on their face about how great
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shit is and throw the motherfucking phone in the fucking river five minutes after they
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fucking did it. You're seeing what they want you to see. And by you judging yourself against
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what they're putting out as marketing is very dangerous. I refuse to do that. If you see me
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not snap for a couple of days, if you see me not post for a couple of days, it's because
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I don't have anything productive to say, or I'm going through one of these fucking lows
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where, you know, I'm just not in the mood to give you guys anything. Um, and you know,
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as I get older and I'm not at level 10 low, by the way, I might be like at level six.
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I don't know where the fuck I am, but I know this, the more I go through it, the stronger
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I get. And what I want to encourage you guys to realize about yourselves is that if you're
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ambitious, if you want to be successful, which we all do, we all want to be fucking wealthy.
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We all want to fucking be, uh, in the best situations and lives that we can be in. You're
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going to have to learn how to deal with the shit that is going to be negative too. You're
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going to have to learn how to take negative energy that people give you and turn it into
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positive, productive action. You're going to have to learn how to expect that negativity
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is going to come to an end or the low times are going to come to an end. You know, it would
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be nice if we could always be high and we could always be happy and we could always be winning.
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That's the fucking fairy tale that you're fed because it's sexy, right? You're not going
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to watch lifestyles of the rich and famous and see somebody on there bitching about how
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fucking hard it is to be fucking rich. They paint the picture and they smile and they
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say, Oh, blah, blah, blah. This is awesome. Blah, blah, blah. And you don't ever see them
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doing the actual work. You don't ever see them doing, uh, you know, what you've got to do
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or going through the emotional cycles that you have to go through. And I guess the reason I
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wanted to talk to you guys about this is because a, I just went through one of these lows myself,
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um, last week. Uh, and B, you know, I was asked about it today on the podcast about, um, you
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know, the highs and lows of, of entrepreneurship and success. And, and I just want you guys to
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know, because I like to keep it real with you guys that having those emotional highs and having
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those emotional lows are fucking normal. All right. Everybody who's out there, that's killing
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it. Everybody out there, who's making money, everybody out there that you look up to goes
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through it, whether they want to tell you about it or not. And, and I know all those motherfuckers.
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So, you know, even if they're not showing it, they're going through it. So know that it comes
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and goes, know that you're going to make it through and know that when you make it through,
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you're going to be stronger. You're going to be more equipped. You're going to have a better
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understanding of the process as you go. You know, people quit too soon. They, they give up too
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soon. They hear the quote, like, like, uh, Gary says, you know, just if you don't, if
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you, if you fucking hate it, you should give up and, and, you know, quit the job that you
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hate. And like I said, on the last podcast, that's, and I love Gary, dude, he's my fucking,
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he's my friend. We talked about this and we've talked about it a lot of times. Some things
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can be taken out of context. And when you, when you, when you hear that, I know there's
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a lot of people out there that the minute shit gets hard or the minute they don't like
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something, they just quit. And guys, that's a sure way to never get anywhere. Because
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I could tell you right now, if I quit every single time, I didn't like this fucking job,
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I would quit like three times a fucking week, but I love this. You know what I'm saying?
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So it's reality. Okay. Um, I know that's not like the typical fire podcast that I give you
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guys on Friday. And I know it's a little bit different of a message, but, uh, you know,
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I think it needs to be said, I think it needs to be noted. And I think you guys need to
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understand that having extreme highs and having extreme lows is part of fucking business. It's,
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it's especially part of being an entrepreneur. Now, if you're an entrepreneur, you know, the
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reason that you, uh, aren't getting paid as much as the entrepreneurs, cause you're not
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having to deal with those extreme fucking highs and lows, because let me tell you something,
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you might have highs and lows within your little job and that's fine. But the reason entrepreneurs
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get to make all the money is because they're having massive fucking highs and massive fucking
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lows because the responsibility is extreme, especially when you get to like a level where
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you have, you know, hundreds of employees like I do, like I make decisions on a daily
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basis that could affect whether or not some of their families fucking eat. So imagine that
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times like hundreds and then imagine having to make decisions about those things. It's, it can
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wear you out. But the good thing is, and I'm not complaining about that. I'm just explaining
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reality. The good thing is by the time you get to that point, you're going to be equipped
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to handle it. All right. So if that's not proof that your, your, your ability to endure, your
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ability to handle stress, your ability to persevere and have grit grows with your experience, I
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don't know what is, but anyway, guys, that's all I got for you today. Um, think about what
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I'm saying. And when you go through these rough times, when you go through these hard times,
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when you go through these times where you want to quit and you feel like the world's coming
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down and you remember, it's going to come to an end. And when you comes to an end and
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you make it out, you're going to be stronger, you're going to be better, and you're going
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to be more equipped for success. I love you guys. I'll talk to you guys next week.