REAL AF with Andy Frisella - How to Live So That No One Has Power Over You, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO281

00:00:00.380 I can stack them hundreds to the roof. I ain't stopping till they stack to the moon.

00:00:04.860 Without me, my family wouldn't have food. Anybody go against me gotta lose.

00:00:12.060 What is up, guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy. I'm your host, and I am the motherfucking CEO.

00:00:19.820 Today, the pastor of disaster, my boy, Vaughn the Impaler, Jean-Claude Vaughn Dam.

00:00:30.440 Vaughn-y Holmes. You never heard that one before, did you?

00:00:33.160 I didn't hear that one, and I got another one that was just...

00:00:35.600 Vaughn Jeremy.

00:00:36.840 Well, yeah.

00:00:37.500 DJ, DJ God.

00:00:39.900 Vaughn Jeremy. I don't comment on that one, but...

00:00:42.600 I'm a big fan of the Vaughn-y Holmes.

00:00:46.400 I hope that sticks. Vaughn-y Holmes?

00:00:48.300 Who would you like?

00:00:49.440 Johnny Holmes?

00:00:50.400 I don't know who that is.

00:00:51.140 All right, well, Google it.

00:00:52.140 And make sure you click on images.

00:00:55.780 We're having technical difficulties with Vaughn's mic, but my intro was so fucking good.

00:00:59.760 So, we got to keep it.

00:01:00.920 I agree.

00:01:01.640 Yeah.

00:01:02.080 So, Vaughn-y Holmes.

00:01:05.260 That's all right.

00:01:06.140 Vaughn-y Holmes' microphone was not plugged in, as I was teasing him.

00:01:08.880 Is it working now, Tyler?

00:01:09.900 Yeah, that was so good.

00:01:10.660 Okay, great.

00:01:11.240 So, that was great, because...

00:01:12.880 Well, a couple guys in the Arte Syndicate actually came up with one that...

00:01:16.720 I'm not going to lie, I think it's pretty bad, but I'll take it.

00:01:19.720 What?

00:01:20.460 Ronald Schwarzenegger.

00:01:21.800 Oh, I like it.

00:01:22.840 How about Vonal Trump?

00:01:24.360 Ooh, Vonal Trump.

00:01:25.640 Yeah.

00:01:27.000 How about Vonal Duck?

00:01:28.300 I need to learn a guitar so I could be Von Halen.

00:01:30.720 Von Halen.

00:01:31.580 Or Von Jon Vo...

00:01:33.240 Jon Von Jovi.

00:01:34.840 That's right.

00:01:35.240 I don't know, something.

00:01:35.620 That's too close.

00:01:36.180 Stevie Ray Vaughan.

00:01:37.200 That's too close.

00:01:38.120 Yeah, it's too close.

00:01:39.520 All right, dude.

00:01:40.440 What's up, man?

00:01:41.300 I don't have any prep notes from you.

00:01:43.780 What is that?

00:01:45.040 I'm just lying.

00:01:45.740 I got two prep notes for episodes, but I don't feel like reading them.

00:01:48.840 Yeah.

00:01:49.380 I think we're just free-balling, aren't we?

00:01:52.280 Are we?

00:01:53.080 I think so.

00:01:53.960 Are we free-balling?

00:01:56.080 I think so.

00:01:57.000 I don't know.

00:01:58.020 Dude, you know, it's been a while since we got down, sit down and talk.

00:02:02.480 Look, and one thing that I've been seeing so much of lately, and the reason I wanted

00:02:09.700 to, I kind of wanted to ask you and get your thoughts on this was because, you know, you

00:02:13.820 spent so much time in the ministry, is that how you say it?

00:02:17.560 Yeah.

00:02:17.940 Okay.

00:02:18.280 In the ministry, doing the Lord's work.

00:02:21.180 Doing the Lord's work.

00:02:21.940 Still doing the Lord's work.

00:02:23.100 Man of the cloth.

00:02:23.940 Man of the cloth.

00:02:24.860 Yeah.

00:02:25.520 Not a chronic masturbator.

00:02:27.440 Is that right?

00:02:28.200 Or yes?

00:02:28.980 I don't think so.

00:02:30.000 What does that mean?

00:02:30.620 I think it means you masturbate until your dick falls off.

00:02:33.040 No, but what's the connection between that and the cloth?

00:02:35.080 I don't know.

00:02:35.600 They don't have sex, so they got to beat off a lot. 0.99

00:02:38.600 I'm just being real, dude.

00:02:40.520 Let's be real.

00:02:41.280 All right.

00:02:41.560 Let's get back on track.

00:02:42.700 Yeah.

00:02:43.040 So, here's the deal.

00:02:46.760 I've been seeing a lot of people on social media, for lack of better terms, judging other

00:02:55.840 people very, very harshly.

00:02:59.400 Yeah.

00:02:59.660 And I think it's a good topic to think about just for, you know, we don't have to record

00:03:06.380 for another hour, but I think it's something that everybody should be conscious of, you

00:03:10.160 know?

00:03:11.360 So, this could turn out to be a Sunday sermon.

00:03:14.180 It could be.

00:03:14.820 Yeah.

00:03:14.960 Or it could be a Thursday Thunder with Vaughn.

00:03:17.200 Yeah, it could be.

00:03:18.120 It could be whatever we decide we want it to be.

00:03:19.860 That's true.

00:03:20.440 But, because I have a feeling you're going to have a lot to say about this.

00:03:23.720 So, dude, now more than ever, our mistakes as human beings are publicized.

00:03:34.120 Mm-hmm.

00:03:34.520 Right?

00:03:35.180 Right.

00:03:35.440 And the bigger the name you have, the more people want to jump in and find a crack in

00:03:43.900 someone's armor, right?

00:03:45.020 Right.

00:03:45.260 And I think it's, it's very, not that I think, it's very irritating to me and frustrating

00:03:55.280 to me.

00:03:55.940 Yeah.

00:03:56.120 Um, because, in my opinion, we're all going to fucking stumble.

00:04:04.280 We're all going to fall.

00:04:05.900 We're all going to have things that happen to us that, honestly, are going to be, they're

00:04:11.540 not good things, right?

00:04:13.220 Right.

00:04:13.420 But, it's like society in general, and especially people who aren't as aware, they tend to forget

00:04:25.300 the fact that everybody fucks up. 0.87

00:04:30.240 Everybody makes a mistake.

00:04:31.780 Right.

00:04:32.080 Everybody screws up and falls on their face in public, right?

00:04:37.400 It happens.

00:04:38.300 Because, dude, 20 years ago, we didn't have internet.

00:04:40.940 So, you know, if somebody did something, they failed a business, or they got a DWI, or they

00:04:48.800 went to jail, or they got caught having an affair, or a million other things, right?

00:04:55.300 You didn't have this huge, like, public backlash.

00:04:59.900 And, uh, to me, I believe in karma.

00:05:06.040 I don't know what everybody else believes, but I believe in that.

00:05:08.500 And I've dedicated a big, big, big part of my life to constantly trying to bring people

00:05:15.940 up and teach people.

00:05:17.840 And while it might not always be what they want to hear, I always feel like it's what

00:05:22.420 they need to hear, right?

00:05:24.340 But the problem that I have with a lot of people, especially on the internet, is how quick, and

00:05:31.640 this goes for a lot of you guys, and this has nothing to do with me, by the way, but

00:05:37.060 this goes for a lot of you guys listening to this podcast.

00:05:39.220 When you see someone fall, when you see someone stubble, when you see someone that has a hard

00:05:44.700 time, what's your normal reaction?

00:05:47.140 Is your normal reaction to think, fuck, that guy's a piece of shit, and jump on the comments

00:05:54.200 section and just trash somebody for no reason?

00:05:57.220 Or is your thought process, man, that's really unfortunate.

00:06:03.240 I feel bad for him.

00:06:04.220 I feel bad for the parties involved, or feel bad for her, bad for the parties involved,

00:06:08.220 and showing some empathy, realizing that the same thing could happen to you down the road.

00:06:13.760 And I know that you're saying, there's no way I would ever do any of those things, but

00:06:17.800 let me tell you something, all of you are going to fall.

00:06:21.700 All of you are going to stumble.

00:06:23.320 All of you are going to have situations that are embarrassing, and that you don't want people

00:06:27.960 to know about you.

00:06:29.380 And I feel like that when you see someone, I don't care who it is, whether it be Obama,

00:06:33.480 whether it be Trump, whether it be somebody you know, it doesn't matter, and you judge

00:06:38.880 so harshly their actions, you are just begging the karmic powers, the universe, God, to teach 0.77

00:06:48.700 you that lesson back in a hard way.

00:06:51.360 I mean, what's your take on where this comes from?

00:06:53.560 Because I feel like, I mean, dude, one of the Ten Commandments is, thou shall not judge.

00:06:58.080 It says it right there.

00:06:59.400 And a lot of you guys may not, oh, I don't believe in the Ten Commandments.

00:07:02.080 You know what, it doesn't really matter what you believe, they're a pretty good guideline

00:07:04.920 for how to live a fucking decent life.

00:07:08.940 You know what I mean?

00:07:09.520 So what's your thinking?

00:07:10.280 Well, let me just say, the first thing that came to my mind is what you were saying about

00:07:14.460 like, we could all screw up, we could all fall.

00:07:18.540 And I don't know how to...

00:07:20.420 Bro, bro, we are all going to screw up.

00:07:23.220 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:07:23.740 If you, it's not, we could.

00:07:25.280 Absolutely.

00:07:25.640 We are.

00:07:26.980 No, I guess for me, and people don't believe me when I say this, but I really do mean it.

00:07:33.860 If I consistently make the bad, the wrong choices in life, even the little, you know, little

00:07:38.900 ones that add up, I actually believe that I am personally capable of anything.

00:07:43.780 If you, if you, I mean, with, I don't think I'm going to like, you know, do a Hannibal

00:07:48.100 Lecter type thing, but reality is...

00:07:50.640 I'll be honest.

00:07:51.380 Like when he's cooking that brain, I'm like, man, that looks like it smells good.

00:07:54.640 Yeah, that smells good.

00:07:55.480 Yeah.

00:07:55.740 But I'm just saying like, you know, if you can, if anybody consistently makes the wrong

00:08:00.200 choices little by little over time, you can become a person you never wanted to be.

00:08:03.800 Absolutely.

00:08:05.120 But, but...

00:08:06.200 What's the saying?

00:08:07.120 Good intentions pave the...

00:08:08.780 Yeah.

00:08:09.160 What is it?

00:08:09.600 Yeah, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

00:08:12.800 Yeah, that's right.

00:08:13.200 Yeah.

00:08:14.260 No, well, it's interesting because I think people really misunderstand the difference between

00:08:22.420 making a moral judgment on an action, which we're allowed to do.

00:08:28.240 I mean, the Bible never says, you know, like a lot of times when people truly are in the

00:08:33.300 wrong...

00:08:33.700 Right.

00:08:34.020 ...and then other people call them out, their first thing to say is, oh, judge not, judge

00:08:38.540 not lest you be judged.

00:08:39.640 Right.

00:08:40.040 But that's where they're wrong.

00:08:41.380 It's okay.

00:08:41.940 If somebody's clearly in the wrong, it's okay to say, hey, I don't think that action is,

00:08:47.120 is, is good.

00:08:48.480 Right.

00:08:48.580 I don't think that's action is something that we want to...

00:08:50.680 No, that's just upholding your own personal standards.

00:08:52.200 Right.

00:08:52.460 Yeah.

00:08:53.120 It's, so it's totally fine to be able to say to somebody, hey, objectively, I think your

00:08:57.640 action is wrong.

00:08:58.260 I mean, we do that on the show all the time, right?

00:09:00.080 Yeah.

00:09:00.500 The difference is, is that people don't know.

00:09:02.840 Was it the RTA syndicate recently that somebody said, attack the performance, not the performer?

00:09:08.380 Yeah, Lou Holtz.

00:09:09.020 Yeah.

00:09:09.220 Lou Holtz said that.

00:09:10.520 Attack the performance, not the performer.

00:09:12.040 How fucking cool is that?

00:09:13.060 Oh, that was incredible.

00:09:14.080 Yeah.

00:09:14.200 Like, I was kind of fanboy.

00:09:16.020 I was, I didn't even go up to take a picture with them because I was like, I'm not even

00:09:19.240 going to do it.

00:09:19.720 I got a comment.

00:09:21.180 I'm just going to go off track for a second.

00:09:22.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:22.700 Go ahead.

00:09:23.140 Dude, I got a message the other day.

00:09:25.080 He's like, hey, dude, how's that RTA syndicate going?

00:09:28.800 I'm like, why don't you ask some people who are in it?

00:09:31.560 Like, dude, we're doing shit that no one's ever done.

00:09:33.860 It's fucking amazing.

00:09:34.840 Yeah, it really is.

00:09:35.780 And I feel almost like a hangover from being there.

00:09:38.340 Yeah.

00:09:38.660 Like this last week in Laguna, because like I was so up the whole time.

00:09:41.940 And now I come back and like, I'm motivated, obviously, and I'm kicking ass and I'm doing

00:09:45.920 all this new shit.

00:09:46.760 I have this new energy about it.

00:09:48.780 And honestly, I personally learned a lot of new skills.

00:09:51.860 I do too.

00:09:52.440 Yeah.

00:09:52.900 And, but dude, it sucks.

00:09:55.240 You, it would be cool if we could be with that group more often.

00:09:58.680 Oh yeah.

00:09:59.000 You definitely have post RTA letdown.

00:10:01.000 No, but, but, but no, but I mean, my point being is, is that we've really lost the fine

00:10:05.060 art of saying, okay, this is objectively wrong, but there's a difference between doing that

00:10:09.860 and saying, okay, that guy's doing something wrong and screw that guy.

00:10:13.720 I condemn him.

00:10:14.800 Right.

00:10:14.980 And that's what, that's what actually Jesus is saying.

00:10:17.340 Right.

00:10:17.600 He's saying, judge not lest you be judged.

00:10:20.380 In other words, if you're going to, if you're going to be, be judging somebody else, you better

00:10:24.440 be darn careful about your own life.

00:10:26.960 That's right.

00:10:27.300 He actually, there's another place in the gospels where he says, you know, we try to pick the

00:10:32.500 speck out of our own, out of somebody else's eye when we've got a plank in our own eye.

00:10:37.320 Oh fuck, dude.

00:10:37.760 That's the truth.

00:10:38.300 It's, it's a great metaphor.

00:10:39.840 And, and so by and large, yeah, I mean, there's also another part in scripture where it says

00:10:45.280 love, just love does not rejoice with evil.

00:10:48.080 In other words, people who are really good people don't delight when somebody does something

00:10:53.780 bad and gets in trouble.

00:10:54.840 I agree.

00:10:55.440 I think that's what irritates me about it is like, I think that's what irritates me about

00:10:59.700 it is that when someone does make a mistake or someone does fuck up or someone does make

00:11:05.120 consistently bad choices.

00:11:07.380 There's literally, and this good, this changes for you guys building a personal brand and

00:11:12.600 you guys trying to, you know, become well-known and build your business.

00:11:15.420 Because I can tell you the bigger you get, the more people are going to try to find whatever

00:11:20.440 crack they can and fucking weasel their way in and expose it. 0.94

00:11:24.800 And dude, I just, I see that shit like literally nonstop.

00:11:30.000 Like so much so like people can post something online or say something in a YouTube video

00:11:36.280 or a podcast or a blog, one sentence out of literally thousands and thousands and thousands

00:11:43.480 of hours of good shit or, you know, something like that.

00:11:47.780 And dude, the, the, the response, it's like, dude, they look for that one thing and then you'll

00:11:54.360 have 40,000 comments on that one fucking thing when that person has done the complete opposite. 0.91

00:12:00.100 And like, dude, I see that as evil.

00:12:02.180 Like, I don't see that as a good thing.

00:12:03.840 And dude, that, I think that the morals and values of society are being corroded because

00:12:13.240 people are becoming accustomed to the way that the media attacks literally everything that

00:12:19.640 they do.

00:12:20.020 Right.

00:12:20.880 So, cause we're watching the media and we're, and they're dude, I literally, when I go to

00:12:24.980 the gym and I see the news headlines, like it'll be something like, oh, Trump took a shit today

00:12:31.160 and he didn't use fucking wet wipes and it'll be on the fucking screen for seven hours. 0.98

00:12:36.380 It's like, dude, is that really all that we have to talk about?

00:12:40.820 Is that all we have to focus on?

00:12:42.880 You know, and, and that's just an example, obviously, but we see this with social media

00:12:49.360 personalities or business people, you know, dude, Jeff Bezos gets caught fucking having

00:12:54.380 an affair.

00:12:55.640 Fuck Amazon.

00:12:56.760 Fuck this.

00:12:57.500 Fuck that.

00:12:58.160 Fuck, fuck, fuck, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

00:13:00.100 You know, dude, I'm never, and those motherfuckers order Amazon that night. 1.00

00:13:04.140 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:05.120 Like, dude, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:13:07.060 Right.

00:13:07.400 Like you're full of shit.

00:13:08.860 Your, your morals and dude, and, and beyond that, like, who the fuck are you?

00:13:15.140 You know, this guy is, this guy is a billionaire.

00:13:19.800 He's fucking what he did.

00:13:21.460 Yeah.

00:13:21.760 Fucking wrong.

00:13:22.540 Completely agree.

00:13:23.280 I'm not saying it's right.

00:13:24.060 Right.

00:13:24.540 But like, dude, who are you to fucking talk shit on someone you don't even know?

00:13:28.840 You don't even know the situation.

00:13:30.120 You don't know anything.

00:13:31.660 You don't know anything about it.

00:13:33.260 You know what I mean?

00:13:33.860 Other than what the media tells you.

00:13:35.260 And I guess like, dude, a lot of you guys and a lot of people out there that, you know,

00:13:39.580 are just fucking sheep. 0.64

00:13:41.000 They're just repeat.

00:13:41.940 It's like children.

00:13:42.660 I can't think for myself, so I just repeat shit that I see other people saying because

00:13:48.380 I want people to like my comment or like my post.

00:13:51.940 And dude, that's, you know what?

00:13:53.680 If that's you, if you're that kind of person that piles on when people are down or vocally,

00:13:59.780 you know, expresses negativity at every fucking opportunity, your life fucking sucks. 0.98

00:14:05.520 I know it does.

00:14:06.160 I know you're broke.

00:14:07.180 I know you're miserable.

00:14:08.240 I know you, because you don't see people with their shit together having that.

00:14:11.600 Right.

00:14:12.260 You do not see people with their shit together talking shit like that.

00:14:15.420 No, absolutely not.

00:14:16.320 You just never see it.

00:14:17.320 So when I was studying, studying for the pastor, you have to do these internships.

00:14:21.560 And I, I took an internship with this guy who had been a pastor for like 25, 30 years

00:14:25.700 at that point.

00:14:26.300 And he was, he was like a real conservative dude.

00:14:28.660 He was real straight laced to be married to his wife for, you know, a long time.

00:14:32.380 They had a great relationship.

00:14:33.240 And I asked him, I said, so how, how are you different now than when you started out in

00:14:38.660 the pastorate?

00:14:39.760 He goes, well, a lot of ways, but I'll tell you one way.

00:14:42.560 He said, uh, the first year I was a pastor of some, if a couple would have come in and

00:14:48.120 the, the woman said to, to him, caught my husband cheating. 1.00

00:14:52.460 And he, I said, he said to me, um, I would have immediately like, what are you thinking?

00:14:59.920 Like, get your head out of your butt kind of thing.

00:15:01.920 That's completely wrong.

00:15:03.180 Scriptures condemn that, et cetera, et cetera.

00:15:05.760 He says 25 years later, you don't think that motherfucker already knows that?

00:15:08.760 Right, exactly.

00:15:09.580 But, but 25 years later, he said, is it still wrong?

00:15:13.920 Yes.

00:15:14.500 But after 25 years of living with human beings, I realized there are reasons these things

00:15:19.460 happen very often.

00:15:20.940 And it doesn't make it okay, but you know, he said, I would ask questions and I would

00:15:26.500 say, okay, well, what kind of relationship?

00:15:27.880 Well, maybe for the last 10 years, his wife has been treating him like crap.

00:15:31.820 Maybe the guy feels like a complete failure at work.

00:15:35.120 Maybe he's got, maybe he's got stress.

00:15:37.480 Maybe he made the wrong decision in getting married in the first place.

00:15:40.700 Possibly.

00:15:41.500 But the, the point being again, is that, is that he said, Vaughn, it's a, it's, you can

00:15:47.660 still objectively recognize that something is wrong, but have empathy for people and understand

00:15:53.980 kind of why they did it.

00:15:55.060 And I think that's what it is, right?

00:15:56.040 It's a lack of empathy.

00:15:57.040 And I think that's what it is.

00:15:58.060 Dude, there's people right now listening being like, oh my God, you're sympathizing with Bezos

00:16:03.380 for screwing another girl.

00:16:05.080 You're a piece of shit.

00:16:06.040 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:16:07.260 What I'm saying is, is you don't fucking know what the fuck happened and you have no right

00:16:12.560 being a sinner through your nature. 0.99

00:16:16.580 You have done every single one of you have done shit.

00:16:19.340 You're not proud of guaranteed.

00:16:21.480 And just because your shit might be stealing a pack of Kool-Aid from the grocery store and

00:16:26.980 their shit might be publicly, uh, having an affair.

00:16:31.080 That doesn't mean it's any better.

00:16:33.200 Your shit is just as bad as their shit. 0.92

00:16:35.260 And you guys, you guys have this, people have this, uh, this way of, of like ranking

00:16:41.600 bad things.

00:16:42.940 No, bad things, a bad fucking thing.

00:16:44.520 You know what I mean?

00:16:45.220 There's people listening right now who have been cheated on and they're like, dude, you've

00:16:48.820 never had it happen.

00:16:49.760 Motherfucker. 0.99

00:16:50.260 I've had more shit happen to me than you'll ever fucking know.

00:16:52.960 Right.

00:16:53.260 And you know what the difference is?

00:16:54.780 I let it go.

00:16:56.520 I've had three long-term girlfriends fucking cheat on me behind my back. 1.00

00:17:00.840 I let it go.

00:17:02.460 I got fucking stabbed in the face, dude.

00:17:04.800 And the guy took away my nerves, my feeling, my confidence, my self-esteem for a really,

00:17:11.080 really long time.

00:17:12.580 And it was my decision to turn that around and make it a great thing that saved me.

00:17:18.800 Right.

00:17:19.700 And these people, you people right now who are angry and bitter and upset with people who

00:17:26.020 did you wrong, you have to understand that you are the only one that's affecting you

00:17:32.580 right now.

00:17:33.140 And you're holding yourself back.

00:17:35.000 You're punishing yourself by staying angry, by staying mad, by staying frustrated and by

00:17:42.560 staying bitter.

00:17:43.440 And dude, the more you do that, the less you can do in a positive direction.

00:17:49.280 And you might not realize it, but when you comment and talk shit and do all that, you are just

00:17:57.560 feeding the negativity that lives inside you, which we all have negativity that lives inside of us.

00:18:03.720 And that negativity should be used to drive you to be better, not keep you in the same place.

00:18:11.280 You know, we talk a lot about the dark side, right?

00:18:14.260 The dark side can fucking eat you up, dude.

00:18:17.300 If you don't know what you're doing, it can eat you up.

00:18:20.460 And it does, most people.

00:18:22.560 Most people get told they're worthless.

00:18:24.560 Most people get told they're not good enough.

00:18:26.960 Most people get shit on by a girlfriend or a boyfriend or cheated on by a girlfriend or a boyfriend.

00:18:31.400 And instead of taking those lessons and saying, you know what?

00:18:38.800 I am going to prove that that is not who I am, right?

00:18:42.580 Guys who went to jail.

00:18:43.700 How many guys do we have emailing us that were like ex-cons that are now starting businesses

00:18:48.080 and doing good things in life?

00:18:50.380 Dude, it's all about empathy for real.

00:18:57.360 And like, I hate saying that word because Gary used that word so much.

00:19:00.220 You know, I feel like I'm just copying Gary's shit.

00:19:03.040 We'll revitalize it.

00:19:03.840 Yeah, so, but dude, it's, and not that I hate Gary.

00:19:09.100 I just don't like using other people's fucking shit they use.

00:19:12.840 But the point is, is that, dude, you gotta be, you've gotta be, we did an episode on forgiveness.

00:19:18.300 I don't know what episode that was.

00:19:19.420 We haven't actually, but we should do a full.

00:19:21.720 Or did I do a post on it?

00:19:22.520 You and I talked about doing an episode on forgiveness.

00:19:25.720 I think I did a post on it.

00:19:26.840 You might've done a post, yeah.

00:19:28.240 But like, dude.

00:19:28.740 We should do a full, a full-blown one of that.

00:19:29.800 Yeah, you've gotta, well, this could be it, dude.

00:19:31.500 This could be it, yeah.

00:19:32.080 You've gotta let go of all this shit, man.

00:19:35.120 And like, yes, it's okay to remember the kids that made fun of you, but it's not okay

00:19:41.440 to believe them and keep that from doing what you need to do.

00:19:45.180 It's okay to remember them whenever you're feeling like a pussy and you don't want to 0.99

00:19:49.060 go to work or you don't want to go do what you have to do or you don't want to go to

00:19:51.760 the gym to use that as a driver. 0.56

00:19:53.720 But if you use it to stay where you are because you believe that that's not what, um, that

00:19:58.680 you're not good enough or that what they said was might be true or this or that really what

00:20:03.680 you're doing is condemning yourself to a life inside of a box that other people created

00:20:08.060 that, um, is quite honestly completely made up in your own head.

00:20:14.820 You know what I mean?

00:20:15.900 Yeah.

00:20:16.040 We just celebrated Martin Luther King day, uh, right, uh, all across the United States.

00:20:19.920 And one of his greatest quotes is, I will not hate any man.

00:20:24.100 I will never let him have that power over me.

00:20:27.020 And I think that's a great dude.

00:20:28.620 Yeah.

00:20:28.860 I mean, he's one of the most brilliant people ever live, but I mean, it's brilliant to

00:20:32.120 think about like, if you actually hate somebody, we could really use him right now.

00:20:35.820 We could.

00:20:36.600 I know if you actually hate somebody, they are actually exercising power over you.

00:20:41.240 How do you think MLK would feel about the media divisively just fucking driving a stake

00:20:46.900 between, uh, socioeconomic and racial relation in this country every chance they get?

00:20:51.880 Oh, I think, I think it, dude, he would be burning shit down a little bit.

00:20:55.100 Yeah.

00:20:55.360 Cause I think he was a visual, he was a vigilant dude, man.

00:20:58.280 He didn't care if he went to jail.

00:20:59.600 That's what people don't get about him.

00:21:01.040 He wasn't like this super nice guy, dude.

00:21:03.280 The guy just had a backbone and he stood up for what the fuck was right.

00:21:08.240 What he knew was right, not just for black people, but for all people.

00:21:12.880 I actually think he would, I think he would piss off both sides.

00:21:17.000 Oh, fuck.

00:21:17.440 Yeah.

00:21:17.940 Like, dude, totally.

00:21:18.940 I'm not taking one side over another.

00:21:20.480 I'm saying everybody's fucked up.

00:21:22.660 Yeah.

00:21:23.300 Like, dude, we're all in this shit together.

00:21:25.080 We're all fucking here together.

00:21:26.640 You know, like it doesn't take a rocket science to figure that out.

00:21:30.600 Yeah, but I mean, back to your, just the whole question about, you know,

00:21:34.860 why do other people take delight in when somebody screws up

00:21:38.580 and really wants to just like rub their face in it and make sure they pay?

00:21:42.300 I don't know, man.

00:21:43.240 It's bitterness, dude.

00:21:44.100 It's weird.

00:21:44.660 It's bitterness.

00:21:45.620 I guess it makes you, it's an attempt to feel better about yourself.

00:21:48.680 That's right.

00:21:49.600 Yeah.

00:21:49.820 See, see, I told you that guy was a piece of shit.

00:21:53.220 I told you he was fake.

00:21:54.520 I told you he was this.

00:21:55.640 I told you he was that.

00:21:56.920 You know what?

00:21:57.400 That's real easy to say from an outside point of view when someone fucking stumbles

00:22:01.220 at one thing.

00:22:02.600 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:04.020 And let's be real, dude.

00:22:05.720 Every single person saying that shit is guilty of some shit as well.

00:22:09.660 And like, it's just toxic behavior.

00:22:12.840 And what irritates me is when people try to spin it as if it's positive behavior.

00:22:17.560 See, I'm exposing that person.

00:22:20.920 No, you're not because it's already out.

00:22:23.540 Right.

00:22:23.760 You're stomping on somebody who's in a bad position.

00:22:27.320 What's that say about your character?

00:22:28.780 Right.

00:22:29.280 You see what I'm saying?

00:22:29.920 No, I absolutely see what you're saying.

00:22:31.280 You know, one of the things that-

00:22:32.240 I personally believe that if you stomp on people when they're down, I don't care if

00:22:35.300 they're your competition.

00:22:36.280 I don't care if it's someone you hate.

00:22:37.960 If you're one to pile on and say some shit to them, I don't care what they did.

00:22:41.420 I don't care if they killed somebody.

00:22:43.400 If your person, like, if you're going to stomp on them and say shit and just fucking trash

00:22:49.000 them and this and that, it says more about you than it does about them.

00:22:52.280 And that's my, you know, dude, I've been fucking stabbed.

00:22:55.360 The guy who stabbed me got a charge with attempted murder.

00:22:57.820 He was trying to kill me.

00:22:59.100 He wasn't trying to beat me up.

00:23:00.660 You know what?

00:23:01.860 I don't hang on to that.

00:23:03.600 I forgive that dude.

00:23:05.080 Like, I hope he's living in a productive life.

00:23:07.080 I hope he's successful.

00:23:08.340 I hope he's winning.

00:23:09.160 I hope he's doing a good thing.

00:23:10.740 And if he is, great.

00:23:12.680 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:13.520 Like, I don't have any bitterness towards him.

00:23:15.640 Because what good does it do a world-

00:23:17.200 Nothing.

00:23:17.520 It only holds me back.

00:23:18.300 Yeah, it holds you back.

00:23:19.540 And what does it, what good does it do the whole world if that guy continues in his

00:23:23.320 being miserable?

00:23:24.140 No, it's terrible.

00:23:24.780 Right?

00:23:25.140 He's going to hurt more people.

00:23:26.000 Yeah.

00:23:26.400 And, you know, people always ask me, they're like, dude, how do you feel about that guy

00:23:31.080 getting out of jail?

00:23:31.960 I'm like, well, you know what?

00:23:33.600 I wouldn't want to go to jail.

00:23:35.680 If I had to trade places, I'd rather have scars on my face than go to fucking jail and get

00:23:39.040 ass raped. 0.99

00:23:40.340 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:41.240 Like, I don't want to go there.

00:23:42.920 So, you know, I would, if I had to pick the situation, I'd rather be me in this situation.

00:23:48.760 He went and did his time.

00:23:50.160 That's enough for me.

00:23:51.760 I'm sure he's sorry.

00:23:52.900 I'm sure he's moving on.

00:23:54.580 And that's great.

00:23:56.240 I literally don't, it's, I don't even think about it.

00:23:59.200 You know I don't think about it.

00:24:00.100 No, you don't.

00:24:02.180 You know, it's interesting because I do think that, I think-

00:24:06.800 But dude, how would most people react to that?

00:24:09.320 Oh, it would consume them.

00:24:11.040 Forever.

00:24:12.440 Forever.

00:24:13.160 Absolutely.

00:24:14.160 And that's the choice people have.

00:24:15.420 And they'd want some sort of, they'd spend their whole life plotting revenge.

00:24:18.480 Right.

00:24:18.720 And that's the choice people have.

00:24:20.820 That's the choice.

00:24:22.200 The choice is when bad things happen to you, you have the decision to either make it work

00:24:28.660 for you or to keep you in the same spot.

00:24:31.620 Right?

00:24:32.180 And use it as an excuse or a story.

00:24:34.180 Dude, I could have fucking, I could still be doing the same shit that I was then and telling

00:24:39.860 everybody, dude, you know what?

00:24:42.260 I could have been so, such a successful businessman.

00:24:45.800 You know, I've got good things to say, but that guy came and he fucked up my face.

00:24:49.860 And now, now I'm, I waste, you know, I could never do it because he took that from me.

00:24:54.720 Like, I could fucking say that shit.

00:24:56.640 And you know what?

00:24:57.680 People will believe it.

00:24:58.900 Yeah.

00:24:59.340 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:00.220 Yeah.

00:25:00.380 You know what's interesting?

00:25:01.280 I don't know if you've noticed this as a leader in business, but what's interesting

00:25:05.280 is not only do people want to just pile on the abuse when somebody screws up, isn't it

00:25:11.100 true though, that sometimes the person who actually screwed up feels like they should

00:25:17.320 be treated poorly.

00:25:18.560 And when you as a leader say, no, it's all good, man, they're like, no, man, I deserve

00:25:23.220 to get, I deserve to get beaten up for this, you know?

00:25:25.880 And, and they almost don't know what to do when you say it's all good.

00:25:28.920 It's okay.

00:25:29.640 I forgive you.

00:25:30.400 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:31.120 Yeah.

00:25:31.840 Yeah.

00:25:32.140 Sometimes, I mean, unfortunately, most of the time, you know, people can't take responsibility

00:25:38.000 for their own actions.

00:25:38.980 Well, that's true.

00:25:39.620 But I think that's a sign of someone knowing they did wrong.

00:25:42.440 Yeah.

00:25:42.800 And that's probably the person that's going to, going to change the behavior process.

00:25:48.160 You know what I mean?

00:25:48.820 But right now we have all this stuff out there where it's like, you know, it's fucking ridiculous.

00:25:55.680 Yeah.

00:25:56.000 It is interesting.

00:25:56.880 I think when we're dealing with somebody who's made a massive mistake or done something really

00:26:01.420 bad, I do think that.

00:26:04.280 What's really bad?

00:26:05.860 Well, I don't know.

00:26:06.360 What's really bad?

00:26:07.420 Well, it's interesting.

00:26:08.320 It's interesting you ask that because, you know, depending on your, depending on even

00:26:12.160 your political.

00:26:12.480 Because if you look at the internet and you look at what people fucking say and you look

00:26:16.580 at what they fucking comment, dude, making a misspelling in your fucking post is the end 0.99

00:26:22.920 of the world.

00:26:23.660 Yeah.

00:26:24.220 Right.

00:26:25.000 Right?

00:26:25.500 Yeah.

00:26:25.800 Like, dude, I guess what I'm, I guess the reason I'm sort of ranting on this is because

00:26:31.700 if you listen to this podcast and you follow me and you follow my company, I do not want

00:26:38.080 you to follow me.

00:26:38.980 I do not want you to be a part of this movement.

00:26:41.240 I do not want you to buy my products.

00:26:43.060 If you're going to be the person that is going to pile on negativity to other people

00:26:48.300 and you're going to celebrate someone else's demise, go somewhere else, get the fuck out 0.90

00:26:52.240 of here.

00:26:52.720 Yeah.

00:26:53.120 You guys listening and me and us, we should all be the people who stand up and have empathy

00:27:01.040 for other people and say, you know what?

00:27:02.580 So that was wrong, but, uh, I made mistakes too and I've done shit too and I've done this

00:27:10.120 and this and this.

00:27:10.820 And you know what?

00:27:11.660 Use it as an opportunity to improve yourself versus an opportunity to fucking pile on someone

00:27:17.320 else's bad shit. 0.81

00:27:19.160 Because dude, if you feel good when somebody else falls, you know what you're telling the

00:27:22.660 universe?

00:27:23.700 You're saying, I like it when people fail.

00:27:25.720 Yeah.

00:27:26.020 And you know what the universe is going to give you a bunch of fucking failure.

00:27:29.160 Yeah.

00:27:29.600 I believe that.

00:27:30.740 I believe it.

00:27:31.380 That's true.

00:27:31.440 It's a heavy topic, man.

00:27:34.080 It's a good one.

00:27:35.300 I, uh, I just think in general, um, the whole point of all of us is, is improving as people,

00:27:42.840 is, is developing as people, is becoming the best version of ourselves.

00:27:46.560 And we've got to ask ourselves that when somebody screws up, you know, is the proper response just

00:27:55.080 to rub their face in it and make them feel terrible or is the proper response to ascertain

00:28:00.480 whether they actually recognize that what they did was wrong and then to help them to get

00:28:04.720 better.

00:28:05.440 You know what I mean?

00:28:06.340 It sounds to me that's...

00:28:07.600 Or at the very least, keep your mouth shut and keep your fingers quiet and look in the

00:28:13.760 mirror and see how you can get better from it.

00:28:15.620 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:28:16.460 Because, dude, that's what successful people do.

00:28:18.820 Successful people look at other people's mistakes and they learn from them.

00:28:22.560 Right?

00:28:23.160 Right.

00:28:23.380 And that's, that ain't going to happen if you're always just judging people.

00:28:28.000 Right.

00:28:28.780 No, that's absolutely true.

00:28:30.060 I don't know, dude.

00:28:30.700 It's just something that gets on my fucking nerves.

00:28:32.800 And I've seen a lot lately, um, on social media, just people fucking piling on people

00:28:40.260 that, you know, I don't know.

00:28:42.700 Oh, I...

00:28:43.240 It's just annoying.

00:28:43.800 I get it.

00:28:44.740 And, and, yeah, no, I mean, I, I get it from a, from a spiritual background.

00:28:49.340 I mean, it, well, to this day, one of my favorite, uh, one of my favorite stories that

00:28:54.720 Jesus tells is the, uh, the, uh, the story about the, the, uh, Pharisee and the tax collector.

00:29:00.520 The Pharisee is like the really, really religious guy who literally in the story says, Lord, I

00:29:06.600 thank you that I'm not like other men.

00:29:08.200 I'm, I don't do this and I don't do that.

00:29:10.080 And I'm, I'm not bad like everybody else.

00:29:12.120 And he's literally like so wrapped up in himself that it's like disgusting.

00:29:16.760 And then you have another guy who the people of the day would have considered a total like

00:29:22.120 douchebag. 0.95

00:29:23.500 And he said, and he beats his breast, which is a sign of like repentance and, and contrition.

00:29:28.540 And he says, I can't even look to heaven.

00:29:30.720 I'm just not even worthy to look to heaven.

00:29:32.500 Cause I realize how much I've screwed up.

00:29:34.560 And Jesus says, which one of those two people you think actually pleases God more?

00:29:38.540 The one who recognizes he messed up.

00:29:40.280 Right.

00:29:40.620 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:41.700 And so that's, that's always been one of the key stories for me is, is just to say really

00:29:46.260 at the end of the day, you know what?

00:29:48.900 I'm screwed up.

00:29:50.400 But, but to say that, not in a way that's just beating yourself up, but just to say,

00:29:54.840 Hey, I am who I am and I screwed up.

00:29:57.220 And when I screw up, I'm going to admit my fault.

00:29:58.920 And I'm just going to say, Lord, help me do better.

00:30:00.740 Dude.

00:30:01.080 You know?

00:30:01.320 And that's it.

00:30:02.140 And then guess what?

00:30:03.940 Go try to do better.

00:30:05.140 Yeah.

00:30:05.720 Let it go.

00:30:06.860 You know what I mean?

00:30:07.340 Cause that's the other side of this coin is that sometimes people are so harsh on the

00:30:12.840 criticism themselves that they end up holding themselves in that box.

00:30:17.220 You see what I'm saying?

00:30:18.100 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:19.840 Absolutely.

00:30:20.380 I mean, I, that's probably just as common as the other side of the coin.

00:30:24.580 Like holding yourself.

00:30:25.460 Oh yeah, dude.

00:30:26.200 Beating yourself up.

00:30:26.840 Dude, I, I, you know what?

00:30:28.600 I didn't let that, that old lady in in traffic today. 1.00

00:30:30.920 Cause I was in a hurry.

00:30:31.820 I'm a total fucking piece of shit.

00:30:33.800 Hey man, we all did that shit.

00:30:35.860 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:36.900 Like it doesn't mean that it's okay.

00:30:38.720 And next time, you know what?

00:30:39.820 Try to remember that.

00:30:40.660 So you do it better.

00:30:41.560 You know what I mean?

00:30:42.900 It's just, um, it just takes a different kind of awareness to be that way, you know?

00:30:49.460 And, and I feel like it's getting corroded because of the information that we consume

00:30:54.420 on a daily basis that we literally have zero, zero ability to block out because it's everywhere

00:31:00.240 is negative, polarizing, and super critical of every single move that people make.

00:31:06.480 So what do people do in real life?

00:31:09.000 Negative, polarizing, super critical.

00:31:12.500 Of every single person they know.

00:31:13.960 Absolutely.

00:31:14.360 Well, you know, your boy Miguel from the Arate Syndicate.

00:31:16.820 Yeah.

00:31:17.200 He gave me a great book.

00:31:18.420 Mr. Mr. I Hump A Lot.

00:31:21.380 Miguel's got how many?

00:31:22.760 Fuck, 15 kids.

00:31:23.960 15 kids.

00:31:24.620 That's not bullshit.

00:31:25.220 That's not bullshit.

00:31:25.640 15.

00:31:26.460 I love what he said, though, in one of our meetings.

00:31:28.340 He said, I don't have more sex.

00:31:29.700 I'm just more productive.

00:31:30.960 Dude, he certainly is the most productive man I know.

00:31:34.000 But he-

00:31:35.140 And one of the coolest dudes I know.

00:31:36.200 Yeah, and he gave me a great book by, I think it's a French guy, a French Catholic priest.

00:31:41.460 And this priest who's known, his name's Father Jacques Philippe, he's known for really helping

00:31:46.900 people, he makes a point in the book that, you know, we think, we feel better, especially

00:31:54.020 if you're like religious or Christian, you feel better if you beat yourself up for your

00:31:58.100 sin.

00:31:58.460 But he says, it really doesn't do anything.

00:32:00.760 No.

00:32:01.020 You basically just have to say-

00:32:02.340 It's kind of productive.

00:32:02.680 Yeah, it's kind of productive.

00:32:04.500 So you basically just have to say, man, I screwed up.

00:32:07.520 Sorry, Lord.

00:32:08.800 I'll move on.

00:32:09.620 Right.

00:32:09.860 You know?

00:32:10.460 That's it.

00:32:11.260 That is it.

00:32:11.780 At what point do you just like-

00:32:13.640 But mean it.

00:32:14.600 Yeah, of course.

00:32:15.420 Yes, yes.

00:32:16.060 Don't be one of these people who goes to church on Sunday, and then you go in, and you think

00:32:20.580 that's your cleaning the slate.

00:32:23.880 Oh, I was a dick.

00:32:24.940 Like, dude, we all know this story, right?

00:32:26.520 Right.

00:32:26.680 Like, the guy goes to church, he gets his conscience clear, and on the way out of the

00:32:33.820 parking lot, he's giving people a finger because they're not moving fast enough.

00:32:36.440 Right.

00:32:36.780 That's not okay.

00:32:38.020 No, that's not sincere contrition.

00:32:40.140 Yeah, no, I get it.

00:32:41.580 But really, you're right that so many people do, like, they put themselves in the penalty

00:32:46.260 box.

00:32:46.740 Right.

00:32:47.300 And-

00:32:47.820 And sometimes you deserve to be there for a little bit.

00:32:49.660 You do, and in some cases, you do-

00:32:52.420 But we gotta know, but why is the penalty box only two minutes?

00:32:56.680 That's a good-

00:32:57.720 Oh, because you can't play the game if you're in there the whole time.

00:33:00.200 That's right.

00:33:00.540 Right.

00:33:00.960 Yeah.

00:33:01.080 That's right.

00:33:01.760 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:02.040 So, how the fuck are you gonna- you gotta let yourself out of the penalty box.

00:33:05.600 Right.

00:33:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:06.860 Absolutely.

00:33:07.180 Nobody's coming- the referee ain't skating over to the penalty box and opening it for

00:33:10.540 you.

00:33:10.820 Right.

00:33:11.140 You get to let yourself out of the penalty box.

00:33:13.240 Right.

00:33:13.740 Okay?

00:33:14.200 And a lot of you guys forget that.

00:33:16.240 And you know what?

00:33:17.380 When you see someone who's been sitting in the penalty box for longer than two minutes,

00:33:21.240 maybe it's a good idea to reach over and help them get out of it.

00:33:25.020 Absolutely.

00:33:25.380 You know, Andy, we've talked about this before from different points of view over the course

00:33:32.340 of the last couple of years, but you know, you've always said, at the end of the day,

00:33:36.840 your emotions don't matter.

00:33:38.060 It's action that matters, right?

00:33:39.480 Well, this applies.

00:33:41.140 Right.

00:33:41.380 Because instead of beating yourself up about it, if you can make something right, if you've

00:33:46.320 done something wrong and you can make it right, go make it right.

00:33:49.000 Yeah.

00:33:49.180 It's more important that you make it right than that you feel bad.

00:33:52.560 Yeah.

00:33:52.820 You know?

00:33:53.280 Yeah.

00:33:54.060 And I see, but dude, there are situations you can't make right.

00:33:56.720 No, there isn't.

00:33:57.460 Yeah.

00:33:57.680 And if you can't, if you've really tried and the other person just won't forgive you or

00:34:02.460 there's just, I don't know, there's just no way you actually can make it right, then

00:34:06.500 yeah, you have to just say, okay, if I could, I would, but I can't.

00:34:10.920 So I'm going to move on.

00:34:12.000 I have to.

00:34:12.540 Absolutely.

00:34:13.120 You have to move on because if you don't, you'll be sitting in that box your whole entire

00:34:17.280 life.

00:34:17.640 And guess what?

00:34:18.660 That's not, nobody really deserves that.

00:34:21.320 No.

00:34:21.720 You know, you kill 40 fucking people, you probably deserve it, but we're talking about common

00:34:27.020 day mistakes.

00:34:28.280 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:28.940 Right.

00:34:29.100 Shit that happens in real life.

00:34:30.480 Right.

00:34:30.760 That's not quote unquote illegal.

00:34:33.320 Right.

00:34:33.640 But more so, you know, shit that just happens.

00:34:36.340 Right.

00:34:36.600 You know, cause right now you got all the same motherfuckers listening who are like super

00:34:40.720 judgmental being like, well, what if someone raped someone or what if someone kills a kid

00:34:45.240 or what if someone commits murder or blah, blah, blah, dude, you're the fucking problem 0.99

00:34:48.760 I'm talking about.

00:34:49.700 Right.

00:34:50.440 You're the problem.

00:34:52.140 Get the fuck off my podcast.

00:34:54.300 Go sit in your fucking miserable house and troll other motherfuckers. 1.00

00:34:57.380 Right.

00:34:57.720 You know what I mean?

00:34:58.700 If you don't understand what we're talking about, you are not smart enough to be here.

00:35:02.000 Sorry.

00:35:03.000 Exactly.

00:35:03.320 And, and to spell it out, obviously in, in so many cases, there are consequences.

00:35:10.280 Like you kill 40 people, there are consequences.

00:35:12.960 That's right.

00:35:14.020 But at least I believe if that person comes to a point in their life where they are genuinely

00:35:19.800 sorry for having done that, they can be forgiven by God.

00:35:23.040 I believe that too.

00:35:23.760 Absolutely.

00:35:24.360 I believe that too.

00:35:25.140 And, and, uh, and no matter what you do, you can be forgiven.

00:35:27.720 And you know what?

00:35:27.880 Like there's people that will argue that vehemently, like, like they will fucking completely argue

00:35:34.140 that case.

00:35:35.000 Right.

00:35:35.280 But I, I disagree with that.

00:35:37.120 Right.

00:35:37.760 I, no, I, I, I'm, I'm with you.

00:35:40.080 And people are like, well, wait till you have some shit happen to you.

00:35:43.020 Motherfucker. 0.99

00:35:43.560 I've had shit happen to me.

00:35:44.960 Absolutely.

00:35:45.660 You know what I'm saying?

00:35:46.380 So I'm speaking from a point of experience here and it may not be your exact experience,

00:35:50.780 but I've had some pretty fucking bad shit come down my pipeline and I fucking taken it and 0.89

00:35:56.780 I fucking learned from it and I've gotten better because of it.

00:36:00.180 Well, dude, don't you think on some level, all of humanity can be divided into two people

00:36:05.420 because everybody on some level has hurt everybody else.

00:36:09.120 That's right.

00:36:09.520 So all of humanity can be divided into two types of people.

00:36:12.140 The people who used being hurt and, and experiencing suffering at the hands of other people, they

00:36:18.340 use that as an excuse to hate and the people who have had the same things happen to them

00:36:22.520 and they say, no, you know what?

00:36:25.100 I'm not going to perpetuate it.

00:36:26.680 I'm going to choose to love.

00:36:27.900 Isn't that why Martin Luther King was so great?

00:36:30.300 Yeah.

00:36:30.980 Isn't that why he went down in history and will continue to go down in history as one

00:36:36.680 of the best human beings that ever lived?

00:36:38.780 Absolutely.

00:36:39.600 You know what I'm saying?

00:36:40.300 Yeah.

00:36:40.540 That's a real example to follow.

00:36:42.220 Yeah.

00:36:42.700 You know what I mean?

00:36:43.700 Yeah.

00:36:43.900 Because dude, he had some terrible shit happen to him too.

00:36:46.140 Uh, not to mention somebody killed him.

00:36:49.120 Yeah.

00:36:49.620 You know what I mean?

00:36:50.460 Yeah.

00:36:50.660 Yeah.

00:36:50.840 And it's funny because I bet if he fucking came back, he would forgive that dude.

00:36:55.300 Oh, no question.

00:36:56.280 I bet he would.

00:36:57.180 Absolutely.

00:36:57.700 No question.

00:36:58.200 Well, he quotes Jesus several times about loving your enemies and praying for those who

00:37:02.600 persecute you, which let's just be real honest is not easy.

00:37:06.640 No.

00:37:07.240 And which is why somebody like Martin Luther King is so amazing that he did that.

00:37:11.220 Yeah.

00:37:11.580 You know?

00:37:11.940 And you know what's funny too, man, is like in, in business situations, like, dude, it's

00:37:17.940 such a, it's such a weird dynamic to think about, but cause like I can hate, I can literally

00:37:23.420 like want to destroy my competitors, which I do.

00:37:26.400 Okay.

00:37:27.560 But I can also feel empathy for them when they're struggling at the same time.

00:37:31.620 Cause you've been there.

00:37:32.560 That's right.

00:37:33.060 You know how it feels.

00:37:34.000 Yes.

00:37:34.820 Yeah.

00:37:35.140 And I do that all the time.

00:37:36.120 So, you know, I see people who I, I, I see him copying our business model or doing bad

00:37:42.400 things, you know, to just rip us off and this and that.

00:37:45.120 And I'm like, you know what?

00:37:45.660 Fuck those guys.

00:37:46.700 But I don't get bitter about it.

00:37:48.020 I just get better about it.

00:37:50.200 You know what I mean?

00:37:50.940 And then when I get better and I see a squash them, then I'm like, man, dude, I wish they

00:37:56.820 would have been a little bit more aware.

00:37:58.400 You know what I mean?

00:37:59.040 But it's, it's, um, I think it's a dynamic that you can, you can utilize both those situations,

00:38:05.900 you know, cause people right now, they're like, you're, you're the step on the throat

00:38:10.140 guy.

00:38:10.860 Like you're talking about stepping on throats, but now you're talking, dude, you could be

00:38:14.660 the same guy.

00:38:15.820 Yeah.

00:38:16.220 You could be the guy who wants to fucking win.

00:38:18.400 You could be the guy who wants to compete.

00:38:20.640 You could be the person who wants to be the best.

00:38:23.260 And you could be the person who wants to stomp everybody's fucking brains out.

00:38:27.180 But you could also be the person that when you get to that point that your head and shoulders

00:38:35.600 above the other people, you can reach out and help them get on their feet and help them

00:38:40.240 get, you know, I don't know.

00:38:42.640 To me, that's actually weird.

00:38:44.040 No, to me that that's actually the sign of a true competitor because it's like, I don't

00:38:48.660 know if you heard the story.

00:38:49.360 I respect it.

00:38:50.540 The story about, about, I mean, dude, I got anybody going to question Tom Brady's competitive

00:38:55.480 attitude.

00:38:56.240 No, he's a beast.

00:38:57.820 No.

00:38:58.080 What does he do afterwards?

00:38:59.100 That was awesome.

00:38:59.780 He quietly wakes his, makes his way over to Patrick Mahomes.

00:39:03.020 What is it?

00:39:03.800 His, the locker room.

00:39:05.220 And they exchange words in a positive way.

00:39:07.860 I mean, this is all great leaders.

00:39:10.340 All great competitors had this.

00:39:11.800 People used to wonder why Reagan, Ronald Reagan, being a Republican president could get along

00:39:16.540 so well and have such a great friendship with the Democrat Tip O'Neill.

00:39:19.840 Yeah.

00:39:20.080 And his, his answer one day was, yeah, well, cocktails in the evening, pistols at dawn.

00:39:25.300 That's right.

00:39:25.920 I mean, that's the way it goes, you know?

00:39:27.360 And that's, that's what true competitors that you can, you can, well, you know what?

00:39:31.620 Um, I think it was JP Dinell.

00:39:33.340 Like I'm pretty sure it was JP Dinell that actually said like he didn't have anything personal

00:39:39.240 against the, the people they were fighting against.

00:39:41.940 I mean, what, one of those SEAL guys said, you know, they're, you know, we think they're

00:39:47.040 wrong, but they love their country or they love whoever they are.

00:39:49.600 We think they're wrong.

00:39:50.280 We'll blow them away.

00:39:51.220 That's fine.

00:39:51.720 But we don't have anything personal against them.

00:39:54.000 Battle is battle.

00:39:55.060 It's not like a personal, it's a hatred toward the people that they're fighting against.

00:39:59.340 Dude, I saw a video.

00:40:00.020 I don't want to put words in his mouth.

00:40:00.960 No dude, I saw a cool video.

00:40:03.540 Um, I forgot who posted it and this is like a year or two ago, so I can't remember the

00:40:09.280 exact details, but it was really, it was from an airport and it was a dude.

00:40:13.660 Uh, it was an American guy who had, was a Vietnam vet and it was a Vietnamese, uh, general

00:40:20.300 or soldier who he had actually fought against.

00:40:23.960 Yeah.

00:40:24.360 And somehow they had connected and become friends from, and like the Vietnamese guy had flown

00:40:29.620 to the U S and like, dude, they met each other and it was one of the craziest things I've

00:40:34.540 ever seen.

00:40:35.100 Yeah.

00:40:35.380 I can't remember where I saw that video, but man.

00:40:37.960 But that's fairly common.

00:40:39.260 Like I, I've, I've done a lot of reading on world war one recently and a lot of the English

00:40:43.540 troops after the war, they, they'd meet the Germans and they'd, they'd be like, Hey, you

00:40:49.060 know, how's it going?

00:40:50.360 And they just didn't hold it against them.

00:40:52.140 You guys kicked their ass.

00:40:53.220 Yeah.

00:40:53.660 Right.

00:40:54.200 Right.

00:40:54.840 So, uh, but I don't know, man.

00:40:57.820 Like I just bring up a good, it's a good topic though.

00:41:00.120 Yeah.

00:41:00.480 I just, this whole odd thing of condemnation and forgiveness and, and, and judging it.

00:41:05.820 None of these people listening right now and neither you nor I are in a place to condemn

00:41:11.000 anybody for anything.

00:41:12.640 Nope.

00:41:13.220 Ever.

00:41:13.700 It's a level playing field.

00:41:14.720 That's right.

00:41:15.260 Yep.

00:41:15.460 And the other thing, true, you know, the other thing you have to understand is that, you

00:41:24.660 know, I, I guess, you know, people could perceive me as like attacking people who are poor, people

00:41:32.440 who are broke, but that's not true.

00:41:34.140 It's not true at all.

00:41:35.320 You know what I'm attacking?

00:41:37.440 I'm attacking you being okay with not fulfilling your own potential.

00:41:41.900 That's not okay.

00:41:43.520 You know what I mean?

00:41:44.320 Yeah.

00:41:44.880 So if your potential is the highest potential that you have is to make $28,000 a year and

00:41:51.360 be, um, a garbage man or a janitor or whatever, and you do a great job and you work hard at

00:41:57.900 it and that's your potential.

00:41:59.520 Fuck yeah, dude.

00:42:00.340 I love that.

00:42:01.120 Dude, you, you have consistently, you have consistently said that you are the measure of

00:42:06.980 your own true potential.

00:42:07.740 Yeah.

00:42:08.020 So if there's a guy who's working his tail off and his, his life's accomplishment is

00:42:14.040 being a manager at McDonald's.

00:42:15.580 I think that's amazing.

00:42:16.360 He is more of a success than the guy who could have been a billionaire, but was only a six

00:42:21.780 figure.

00:42:22.300 That's right.

00:42:23.140 That's right.

00:42:23.740 Absolutely.

00:42:24.280 A thousand percent.

00:42:25.060 Yeah.

00:42:25.460 Dude, I 1000% agree with that.

00:42:28.880 Like I couldn't even tell you how much I agree with that.

00:42:33.780 Yeah.

00:42:34.020 I mean, that's just how I see it.

00:42:35.220 And that's how I see the world, dude.

00:42:37.760 Yeah.

00:42:38.220 Me too.

00:42:38.880 You know what I'm saying?

00:42:39.360 Absolutely.

00:42:39.800 That's why when I see someone who's, who's sweeping the parking lot or doing something

00:42:44.420 that other people would, you ever notice too, man, it's always the losers that turn

00:42:48.300 their nose down to other people's like quote unquote work.

00:42:51.120 Like you never see a successful person and I know there's exceptions, but let me rephrase

00:42:57.540 that.

00:42:57.860 You rarely see a successful person who is self-made that treats people who do modest jobs in an

00:43:06.960 inferior way.

00:43:08.320 You just rarely see it, but I see regular motherfuckers who aren't living to their own potential 1.00

00:43:13.260 who, you know, you could say a whole bunch of shit about treating waitresses bad or looking 1.00

00:43:20.280 down on a janitor or, you know, looking at the warehouse guys and automatically thinking

00:43:25.180 they must be stupid. 0.61

00:43:26.300 Some of the smartest motherfuckers.

00:43:28.100 Those guys are smart.

00:43:29.120 Some of the smartest motherfuckers I have in this company working at warehouse. 1.00

00:43:33.020 Absolutely.

00:43:33.420 And you know why?

00:43:34.020 Because they're the last people to touch the product before the customer gets it.

00:43:39.940 So I have to have intelligence out there.

00:43:42.360 I have to have people that care out there.

00:43:44.500 It's an important fucking job.

00:43:47.340 And dude, this is the paradox of what people think success is about.

00:43:51.740 You know what I mean?

00:43:52.720 Most people think it's feed up CEO, go do this, go do that.

00:43:56.400 It's not that at all.

00:43:57.700 It's empowering people to be great at what their potential could be.

00:44:01.800 Right?

00:44:02.080 I've got guys who are executives of my company.

00:44:04.480 I've got guys who own franchise models of our retail stores that are going to be millionaires.

00:44:10.100 Literally on their way to being millionaires.

00:44:12.420 If they're not already, because I don't look at their personal finances.

00:44:16.420 That started with me at $7 an hour.

00:44:19.880 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:21.460 Like dude, when they were in the stores cleaning the fucking toilet, when some lazy employee 0.89

00:44:26.800 or lazy customer pissed all over the toilet seat, most of these people who are earning $28,000 a year

00:44:33.560 who have peaked in high school and who think they're fucking great would be talking shit on that person. 0.69

00:44:39.660 Oh, dude, I'm working over at so-and-so place making 10 times as much as you.

00:44:44.380 That guy's a dumbass.

00:44:45.620 Now who's the dumbass?

00:44:48.760 You get what I'm saying?

00:44:49.760 Absolutely.

00:44:50.840 Dude, the judgment part of things, I guess it's just something that like, and like I'd like to say this too.

00:44:59.720 I would say in my 20s, I was very judgmental.

00:45:02.260 I used to be the person who'd be like, yeah, fuck that guy.

00:45:06.740 He's a piece of shit.

00:45:08.080 You know what I mean?

00:45:08.820 Yeah.

00:45:10.120 And now that I'm in my later 30s, I feel totally different, like completely different person.

00:45:18.280 Yeah, my experience as a pastor is that younger people tend to be more judgmental because they haven't lived life.

00:45:23.200 They haven't failed.

00:45:24.520 They haven't been beaten around a little bit.

00:45:26.560 Oh, Andy, why are you so judgmental against the young entrepreneurs?

00:45:33.260 Right.

00:45:33.900 Hey, motherfucker, it's immoral to sell people information about shit that you never did.

00:45:40.480 If you're reading someone else's theory and then selling it as a product to people who don't know any better and you've never actually done it, that's an immoral thing.

00:45:50.720 So yes, I don't like that.

00:45:52.460 Yep.

00:45:53.020 All right.

00:45:53.520 So let's just get that out of the fucking way.

00:45:59.040 We could talk about that all fucking day too.

00:46:02.260 What else do we want to talk about, dude?

00:46:04.040 Well, you know, I could talk about Arte 24-7, but I just want to drive home.

00:46:11.360 You're obsessed.

00:46:12.180 I am, man.

00:46:13.260 Those people are wonderful.

00:46:14.800 And to your point earlier, like you are literally obsessed with that group.

00:46:19.120 And, dude, I love it.

00:46:20.120 That's a good thing.

00:46:20.940 No, I –

00:46:21.520 But, dude, how much fun is it to work with people who are not just people who claim to want shit, but actually you teach them.

00:46:31.400 They go out and do it.

00:46:32.460 They come back in four months and they're like, dude, I made an extra this or I opened a new office.

00:46:37.260 Dude, almost every single one of the people I talked to in that group had made significant progress in the four months between our first summit and our second summit.

00:46:48.980 I thought that was amazing.

00:46:50.520 I agree.

00:46:51.480 Like, dude, it was either a new office or more money or more employees or better culture, like real improvement.

00:46:58.480 And, dude, that's exactly why we started that.

00:47:02.100 Yep.

00:47:02.300 Dude, so –

00:47:04.340 But here's the thing.

00:47:05.800 What have you been saying for 280 episodes?

00:47:10.180 How do you make money?

00:47:12.720 By helping people.

00:47:13.620 By helping people.

00:47:14.280 Yeah.

00:47:14.640 By providing value to the world.

00:47:16.440 Those people are the epitome of that.

00:47:18.800 Oh, yeah.

00:47:19.200 That is how that they have made millions.

00:47:21.820 Yeah.

00:47:22.180 They have a help mentality.

00:47:24.020 Dude, and I'll be fucking perfectly honest.

00:47:25.480 Provide value.

00:47:26.220 I'll be perfectly honest.

00:47:27.160 And a lot of you guys will email me and be like, I don't belong in that group.

00:47:30.940 I don't – you know, I'm not smart enough.

00:47:32.580 Dude, let me tell you something.

00:47:33.740 This is the honest to God's truth.

00:47:35.880 There are some extremely fucking intelligent people in that group.

00:47:39.860 Derek Struggle.

00:47:40.960 Dude, one of my favorite guys in the group.

00:47:44.080 Yeah, super smart.

00:47:44.900 Yeah.

00:47:45.200 I'll probably end up working for that dude someday because he's like that – he's like that world-changing intelligence level.

00:47:52.560 Yeah.

00:47:52.780 You know what I mean?

00:47:53.240 But there's people also in that group that there are literally more equipped, emotionally stronger, tougher, and smarter people that work in my warehouse than some of the people in the group.

00:48:06.660 And I don't mean that as a rip to anybody.

00:48:09.700 I mean that to set an example of this.

00:48:12.220 If you go out and you do shit, good things happen.

00:48:18.860 If you sit at home – because that's the biggest thing that these guys are.

00:48:22.200 They're fucking people that execute.

00:48:24.620 They're not –

00:48:25.300 They're not –

00:48:25.320 Dude, we have guys in that group that literally are sometimes hard to talk to because they're not aware.

00:48:33.700 But what they do is they go out and make calls.

00:48:36.780 They send emails.

00:48:38.100 They create shit and they sell it.

00:48:40.200 And I'm not talking about fucking programs about how they did shit that nobody – that they never did.

00:48:46.120 You know what I mean?

00:48:46.740 Right, yeah.

00:48:47.100 It's very cool to see because as smart as some of the guys are that are successful, some of the guys in there that aren't on that level are more successful because they're better executors.

00:48:58.580 Dude, one of the wealthiest guy I know – the wealthiest guys I know or knew was one of the dumbest guys I knew.

00:49:06.220 Okay?

00:49:06.420 He's not around anymore.

00:49:07.260 But, dude, I can remember writing him emails and him writing me back saying instead of like our company, it would be like our company, A-R-E.

00:49:18.620 And I'm like, what the fuck?

00:49:20.180 And this guy's worth $200 million.

00:49:21.800 Right, right.

00:49:22.600 You know?

00:49:22.980 And like it wasn't that he was smart.

00:49:25.520 It was that he just did shit.

00:49:26.820 You know what I mean?

00:49:28.180 Dude, sometimes that statement, ignorance is bliss, is the truth.

00:49:32.340 Yeah.

00:49:32.620 Because it lets you get out of your own fucking way and you just go make calls.

00:49:36.860 You know what I mean?

00:49:37.920 Dude, I get it.

00:49:39.260 And I think – and I mean this is going to be kind of a backhanded compliment to myself.

00:49:42.980 But I actually think that intelligence can be a liability because you overthink everything.

00:49:47.280 Dude, look, I'm going to tell you right now, that is your problem.

00:49:50.460 Yeah.

00:49:50.780 Your problem is 100% that you just think of every single scenario and then you stall out.

00:49:57.500 Yep.

00:49:57.820 You know, and you're getting way better about it.

00:49:59.280 But the point is, is that that's what most people are like.

00:50:03.120 Yeah, absolutely.

00:50:03.300 Most people think, dude, I'm not smart enough to be in your group or to join Arte Syndicate or the Accelerator.

00:50:08.980 And I'm thinking like, dude, I promise you, you'll benefit from being there.

00:50:16.300 Your problem is you're too smart for the fucking group.

00:50:19.140 You know what I mean?

00:50:19.700 Because you're overthinking it.

00:50:20.400 Absolutely.

00:50:20.960 Yeah.

00:50:21.300 I mean, it's as simple as if you want to benefit from the group, take the lessons, implement the lessons.

00:50:28.620 Dude, you know what I like too about it, man?

00:50:31.540 I like how helpful everybody is to each other.

00:50:33.860 You know, the core values, even though like it's different people, different races, different genders from all over the world in that group, literally.

00:50:43.840 Like when you go in that group, you see fucking all different kinds of people.

00:50:47.100 Every single one of those people wants the other person to succeed.

00:50:51.900 There's no threat.

00:50:53.440 There's no jealousy.

00:50:54.940 There's no, I wish that guy would fail.

00:50:59.880 Like we're talking about the whole topic.

00:51:01.860 And dude, and I'm talking about literally every single person, not one of those people, not one, piles on other people to hope they lose.

00:51:11.840 And dude, I think that says something about how the universe works.

00:51:14.900 Oh, yeah.

00:51:15.700 The universe rewards people for people who have good hearts.

00:51:19.160 It truly does.

00:51:20.340 If your intentions are pure, you will get far more than what people who are jealous and angry and mad and bitter and have that scarcity mindset will ever get.

00:51:33.360 And you can argue me all you want, but that's just my belief.

00:51:37.400 You can't prove me wrong because it's what I believe.

00:51:40.000 You know, it's like arguing with someone about their God.

00:51:43.720 Like why would you argue if that's what they believe?

00:51:45.860 Because they're going to still believe it.

00:51:47.360 You know what I mean?

00:51:48.520 But I don't know, man.

00:51:50.440 I'm having a really, it's a lot better than I thought it was going to be.

00:51:53.880 That's the truth.

00:51:55.560 Yeah, for sure.

00:51:57.040 Anyway.

00:51:57.280 Well, we've covered some good topics.

00:51:58.840 And where are we at on time there, Salmon?

00:52:02.700 51 minutes.

00:52:03.700 51 minutes.

00:52:04.520 Shit, dude, I got to work out.

00:52:06.440 All right.

00:52:06.900 I do too.

00:52:07.840 Oh, you do, don't you?

00:52:09.180 I do.

00:52:09.860 Because we got a call tonight.

00:52:11.420 We have a call tonight, yeah.

00:52:12.640 Okay.

00:52:13.080 So you're going to work out and then come back?

00:52:15.380 What time is it?

00:52:16.680 It's four.

00:52:17.360 No, I'm actually just going to stay here because I don't have time.

00:52:20.020 Vaughn Swoller going to skip his workout?

00:52:21.760 Well, I'm not going to skip it.

00:52:23.280 I made plans to possibly do it tomorrow.

00:52:25.500 I need to get four in.

00:52:28.640 I need to get four in.

00:52:30.720 I don't know, man.

00:52:31.060 You don't realize the real transformation is going to happen in the next three months.

00:52:37.020 I was going to say three weeks is pretty aggressive.

00:52:38.940 Three or four months.

00:52:39.320 I believe you.

00:52:40.020 I've seen you going.

00:52:41.120 Thanks.

00:52:41.500 I've seen you doing good.

00:52:42.100 You know what, dude?

00:52:42.800 I got into it.

00:52:43.620 You know how you can be doing it but not doing it?

00:52:45.540 Oh, yeah.

00:52:46.500 That's why most people never change.

00:52:48.020 Yeah.

00:52:48.240 I really thought in my mind, okay, as long as I'm doing three or four a week, just keep

00:52:54.760 going.

00:52:55.020 And I think there's some truth to that in the sense of building consistency.

00:52:58.700 But just in the last week or so, I've been like, man, I've been just showing up.

00:53:03.160 Dude, it's that 2% extra.

00:53:04.620 Yeah.

00:53:04.780 It's that 2% extra effort.

00:53:05.940 I've been showing up and I need to really be present and do it.

00:53:09.840 You're already doing everything.

00:53:11.240 Yeah.

00:53:11.720 You might as well do it.

00:53:12.820 That's right.

00:53:13.300 Yeah.

00:53:13.940 Agreed.

00:53:14.020 It's that 2% extra, man.

00:53:15.720 Yep.

00:53:16.500 Remember that story I told about putting the soap in the bucket?

00:53:19.060 Soap, yeah.

00:53:19.520 It's putting the soap in the bucket.

00:53:20.740 Yeah.

00:53:21.220 For those of you guys who haven't heard the story before, the story goes like this.

00:53:25.080 All right?

00:53:25.380 You're going to go out.

00:53:26.020 You're going to wash your car.

00:53:26.860 What do you need?

00:53:27.400 You need a sponge. 0.58

00:53:28.040 You need a bucket.

00:53:29.020 You need water.

00:53:30.840 You need soap.

00:53:32.160 You go out.

00:53:33.060 You put the water in the bucket.

00:53:34.120 You stick the soap, the sponge in the bucket.

00:53:38.740 You get the sponge wet.

00:53:39.780 Squirt the car off.

00:53:41.340 Wash the car with the sponge.

00:53:42.620 What happens?

00:53:43.240 It just moves the dirt around.

00:53:44.560 It makes the car look like shit.

00:53:46.500 But if you would have not forgotten to put that extra 2% effort in to squirt a fucking quarter cup of, or whatever it is, soap into the bucket, you'd have a completely different result.

00:53:59.180 And that's why most people don't get results.

00:54:01.060 It's because that 2% extra effort, man, they're skipping out on or forgetting about, you know, when in the gym, that's focused.

00:54:07.520 That's intensity.

00:54:08.380 You know what I mean?

00:54:09.020 That's pushing yourself.

00:54:11.940 Because you can easily go through the motions and do all the required exercise.

00:54:17.460 But if you're not doing that extra 2%, the results are going to be minimal.

00:54:21.940 That's the truth.

00:54:22.960 And if you do the extra 2%, you become part of the 1%.

00:54:26.580 That's right.

00:54:27.560 Damn, dude.

00:54:28.740 Did you just make that up?

00:54:29.860 I did.

00:54:30.620 That's a good one.

00:54:31.460 I like that.

00:54:32.520 That might be meme-worthy.

00:54:34.200 Might be, yeah.

00:54:35.140 Yeah.

00:54:35.600 So.

00:54:36.820 All right, dude.

00:54:37.520 Well, good talk, man.

00:54:38.720 Yeah.

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00:55:05.000 I hope this was helpful.

00:55:06.220 I hope it got you thinking about some things and let's get it.

REAL AF with Andy Frisella - January 24, 2019

How to Live So That No One Has Power Over You, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO281

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