Mark Bell On Struggle, Sling Shots, and Success, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO167
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Summary
Mark Bell is a world-class power lifter, entrepreneur, powerlifting champ, and entrepreneur in the fitness industry. In this episode, Mark talks about how he got his start in the industry and how he went from being a kid playing football to becoming a full-time entrepreneur.
Transcript
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what is up guys you're listening to the mf ceo project i'm andy i'm your host and i am the
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motherfucking ceo guys if this is your first time welcome um our goal here is not only to be a top
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notch entrepreneurial podcast but to teach the values of entrepreneurship and success no matter
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if you own a business if you work inside of a business um or if you just don't know what the
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fuck you're trying to do right now in life and you're trying to get better um we are here to teach
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you we are here to help you uh you have to understand that being successful in life requires
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a certain skill set and that's what we're here to teach you uh it's not about get rich quick in five
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minutes uh be balling out like rick ross overnight this is about the real shit this is about the
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grit this is about the hustle this is about what it actually takes uh as always i'm joined by my
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co-host vaughn the pastor of disaster uh-oh what's up on i'm growing in badassery every moment i'm in
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your presence i believe it yeah most people do yeah i know man it's just you should bottle it up
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you know what that's a good idea is cologne i'll make a second form yeah what's that second form
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number two a lot of you guys might be wondering who the third voice is tyler it's not tyler it's
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obviously a much more manly man than tyler and tyler is not wearing his salmon shorts by the way so
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the podcast could be a total sandwich trouble salmon oh salmon like it's a sandwich yeah like
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making me hungry i do i would go for a sandwich right now yeah but we have a very special
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guest here mark bell a lot of you guys in the fitness industry know him a lot of you guys have
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seen him on uh gary's show you've seen him on now you just did lewis's show right um lewis howe yep
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yeah so and he's he's uh bigger stronger faster yeah a fucking movie yeah i've seen that netflix
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he's like five times he's he's he's big time in the fitness industry uh he's been there for a long
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time been you know world champion power lifter uh the ceo of uh slingshot slingshot and uh super
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training super training gym that's right um tell us a little bit about the history of how you got
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into the industry and and basically how you got into the entrepreneurial side damn i know it's gonna be
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yeah yeah you want some water because it's gonna just have one question what are you a thousand
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years old yeah yeah right this is gonna be one question it's gonna seem like i'm a thousand years
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old i'm 40 years old and uh live in live in davis california with my wife which is kind of near
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sacramento um i started in the fitness industry um before it was the fitness industry i started
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a long long time ago um i was about i was about 12 years old uh when i started kicking the weights
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around seriously started officially at like 11 but i was just messing around with like a curl bar back
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then dude that's how i started too yeah just a curl bar in our garage and i just was like you know
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let me try to build up my arms my brothers tried to show me how to squat and stuff and i was too much
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of a pussy to try to figure anything out i'm still that way hurt my back too much i was like i need that
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pad my brother's like if i ever see you with that pad i will kill you i'll fucking kill you right
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where you stand um basically the story kind of kicks off with uh i was throwing a football around
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i was always playing not with myself necessarily but by myself and i was throwing a football up in
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the air my brothers you know they they were bored with me and stuff like that because i was much
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younger than them so they didn't want to hang out with me and so i'm just flipping a football up you
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know to myself pretending i'm catching the game winning touchdown and all these things
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and i did that all the time you could go back and watch you know old footage of my brother playing
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football and you'll see me on the sidelines tossing the football to myself and uh i was just at a park
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one day and i'm playing with the football and throwing it up in the air to myself and i hear someone
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say yo bell throw me that football and it's my brother's my brother's friend who we called a dirt dog
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because he was he smoked cigarettes all the time and he had the acid wash jeans he had the mullet
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going and uh his name was joe garlup so he was literally joe dirt yeah he was he was original joe
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dirt he had that tough guy kind of looked to him for some reason he had like pretty good biceps and
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stuff at the time i don't even know if he worked out he was just that way but uh i knew better than
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to throw him the ball because i knew he was an asshole my brother always hated him and we kind of hated
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their family and they hated our family and stuff like that but i was like oh it would be cool to
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toss the ball around with actually somebody else rather than me just hanging out by myself so i
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throw him the ball he proceeds to catch it and then turn around and just kick it as far as he fucking
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could and he he kicked it right into the fucking woods and i i searched for that ball for hours it
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was my favorite football and i was never able to fucking find it and so from that day on you can cut to
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like a rocky montage and i'm hitting it hard in the basement learning how to bench learning how to
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squat learning how to deadlift because i'm like that has never happened to me again yeah yeah so
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it was just more like it wasn't like i really wanted to even fight him at the time but i was just like
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i just want to make sure i'm never in a position again where if i'm bigger and i'm stronger
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it will more likely not happen that way you know so that's that kind of started my my lifting my
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brothers um do i think a lot of people start lifting yeah like they get into uh uh they get
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into they have some sort of negativity happen or even some sort of like we were just talking about
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it out there like a bullying thing nohammed ali right someone stole his bike and i think lou ferrigno
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got into lifting for the same reason yeah and uh and you know it's interesting that like i always say
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you know negativity is highly underrated as a motivation yeah you know really strong yeah it can be
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really powerful so i mean i just started kind of playing around with weights pretty much typically
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the way anybody else would um but my brothers were older and so they were showing me like some power
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lifting stuff and i was you know not really knowing what something was about or not really understanding
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of what any of it would turn into and maybe fast forward like a year or two me and my brother
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bench pressing in the basin my cousin steven is over my cousin steven at the time is probably like 16
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i'm probably like 13 some somewhere in that range and uh my brother my two older brothers gave me the
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nickname smelly because i hated to take showers as a kid so they were always picking on me and they
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always had to fuck with me so my brother tells my cousin steven he says oh smelly can bench 185
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and my cousin's like what he goes yeah smelly can bench 185 he's like there's no fucking way he can
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bench 185 he's like he's like i can i can barely do that and he's you know older right and uh my
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brother's like well we'll fucking show you and so we went down to the basement and we started working
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out my brother was always very careful with me and he always had me do sets of 10 and things like that
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and he always tried to have me utilize the best possible form i could and he was just very delicate
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with like showing me like how to do it the right way and it was he was really adamant about that i
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wasn't allowed to like max out and so we start adding weight and adding weight and adding weight
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and i get to 185 pounds and drop it down to my chest and just boom just blast it up like it's
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nothing and racket and my cousin's just standing there like what the fuck so then my cousin tries
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it he he needs assistance to uh to get the weight up his legs are kicking everywhere but then we
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proceeded to go from 185 to 195 to 205 and 220 and so on and we just kept going up in about 10 pound
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increments all the way till i got to 240 pounds and i got up off the bench and my cousin was like
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i don't know what the fuck that means but that's gonna turn into something yeah that's awesome and
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i mean i remember that day like it's i remember it uh so accurately um just having just such a good
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feeling about myself and so that's where it started that's where the flame uh was ignited and
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you know i'm i'm still as as excited today to hit the gym as i was when i was that age i fucking love
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it i really do yeah you still love the weight training because i know you're doing a lot of
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conditioning now yeah i still love it you know on a daily basis it may not be uh it may not be like
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i might not be like hyped up to get to the gym every day because i know the pain that's gonna happen
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i've been on this kick of uh lifting it's like been 110 days in a row or something like that and
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i'm starting to get really fucking sore yeah and i could probably use a break but it's it's more of a
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thing from a mental standpoint of like just keep fucking pushing forward right you know just keep
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putting one foot in front of the other and i've been able to do that in in all aspects of my life
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because i've been able to find people that have been supportive uh luckily i was born with
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awesome parents and they've been a huge whenever somebody tells me they've come from shitty
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parents and they come from you know some real shitty beginnings i'm always amazed by that because
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i don't have that experience right and uh i was too fragile as a kid i would have never made it
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and uh without my wife andy uh i would have never made it either she she's been a really strong she's
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given me like a backbone you know she's given me something really strong to lean on in certain
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situations as you know in business you get people pulling you in all different directions
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yeah you know who to trust and who to spend time with and who and who not to and she always is
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stiff-arming the fuck out of those people yeah making sure those people don't get involved with
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us unless they're legitimate right right yeah dude emily my wife does the same thing for me she's
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runs the she runs the uh the bodyguard role yeah you know for real but one thing that's interesting
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and i i think it's cool especially with you uh having a lot of success in entrepreneur space
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um and you a lot of the guys i have in interview they're not lifters right so like this is cool
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for me because we're both lifters and we're both around the same age and it's dude i could tell people
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that don't lift don't understand this but it is literally the exact principles that you need to be
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successful as an entrepreneur takes discipline it takes discipline it takes showing up every day
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it takes intensity every day you know it takes you walking out of the gym every day exhausted
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it takes you replenishing your mind and your energy just like you would need to replenish your body
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parallels at 100 yeah everything and like so and the thing about power lifting and bodybuilding is that
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the discipline that it takes is 24 hours a day and there's no other sport or activity whatever you
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want to call it hobby that's like that and that's how entrepreneurship is it's a discipline that's
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24 hours a day everything you do will eventually become part of you being an entrepreneur when you
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see me out drinking a fucking beer there is business being done there you know what i mean you see me
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drinking 20 beers there's a lot of business being done you know what i'm saying yeah but your whole life
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it's it really seriously does parallel and anybody out there listening right now that's into fitness
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can relate to this and one of my biggest frustrations with people in the fitness industry is that
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they can have all this discipline in this area of fitness which i actually think is harder it's
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harder for me than entrepreneurship my workouts will always be way harder than any business meeting i
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ever go into yeah there's no question but then when it comes to like their other lot the rest of their
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life it's like the rest of their life is a fucking shit show yeah and it's like bro how can you be
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so disciplined with your diet your training your workouts your mental discipline to do all this
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shit but you can't get your fucking regular life in order to earn a couple fucking dollars so that you
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don't have to like be a fucking shit bum on your parents or whatever you know like dude you see these
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super successful people in the fitness industry who you think are successful and you find out they're
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living in the fucking basement on a couch they live with their parents it's like what the fuck are you
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doing man do you think that that's because they're doing it for a different motivation
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they're doing it just to look good whereas other people are doing it yeah to look good but also to
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be as healthy as they possibly can i think sometimes that's the case sometimes people have kind of the
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wrong uh intentions from the beginning uh for me in particular like i i was uh i was kind of fortunate
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to have a weakness where i wasn't very smart in school like that and i wasn't either man that
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ended up becoming a really uh well still to this day it's a huge strength of mine you know people say
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uh you know don't put the cart before the horse well i always put the fucking cart before the
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horse dude i'll lift that fucking thing myself and drag it you know what i mean like i i will figure
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it out like i don't always make the right decision or the right choices but i will work really hard to
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make those decisions correct dude i fucking 1000 relate to that i was a terrible student i had trouble
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paying attention it wasn't because i wasn't smart it was because i just don't do good in that
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situation this stuff sucks yeah and ignorance of dude i think the power of success a lot of it comes
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down to to to being ignorant to how hard things are going to be and making a decision like we said
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last podcast it's not about the commitments that you make it's about making the commitments that you
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make the right ones you know what i mean and so many people want to like they they do want to have
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an order to things and like you know that's so cool that you said that because i started texting you
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and i was like i'm coming out there motherfucker and i don't even know like i don't even know you
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right but why am i coming out here i don't know well i mean but some great things are going to
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come of it exactly like exactly i don't know what's going to come of it but it's going to be
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fucking fun yeah and i don't i also think that you know people that are listening to this people
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are just getting started don't feel like you need stuff from people like i don't need anything
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from you right come out here hang out hopefully you have time and hopefully you can hang out have a good
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time but other than that i don't i don't need anything from you yeah i'm sustained yeah i'll
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never forget this i i was uh i was in my gym and uh i've been fortunate enough to be friends with
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john cena i had a stint at pro wrestling we use his uh his his music as the intro on the podcast oh so
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good yeah he's got he's got a lot of great songs but you've been friends with john cena for for many
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years my brothers and i got him actually into professional professional wrestling and so he's
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somebody that's still uh in my life and he pops around whenever he can and and comes into super
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training well the last time he was at super training he's he slept i i tease him and i say
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that he slept in the parking lot but he's sleeping in this like multi-million dollar you know vehicle
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or whatever the hell the thing is it's uh like a tour bus right yeah right has everything on it yeah
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so i text them in the morning and i'm like oh you know it's when someone's from out of town it's kind
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of nice to provide some amenities like you guys got us a hotel and like you don't always know where
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you're going right it's nice for somebody to uh make it feel a little bit at home yeah yeah make
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someone feel at home so i'm like you want me to bring you coffee like you need anything like i
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can cook something here like just like whatever like i know he eats you know he eats healthy and
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stuff and uh he like no dude i'm good and then we we texted back and forth a couple more times asked
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him if he needed anything else and uh he just wrote sustained like i wrote i'm sustained and i was
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like i'm never gonna fucking forget that that's a great way to live your life and what a what a
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comfortable way to feel yeah like no i'm good yeah i don't need anything yeah you know if you want
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something and someone's willing to like offer it or something that's that's how i feel too i feel
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like that everywhere like everywhere i go and i almost feel like when people like i don't like people
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doing extra shit for me because that makes me feel like almost like i don't want to put them out
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so i'm so i'm always like just in my own world you know what i mean of like of of sustained like
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it is a good feeling yeah and you know you shouldn't um i just think that when people are
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trying to climb the ladder they're like oh it'd be cool like if uh if i did this with someone or if i
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did that or if uh someone you know someone gave me money for this or that and i think you're just
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better off saying rather than thinking in those terms how do i how do i work towards that how do i just
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do it myself right you know be sustained like be be you're be in charge of yourself right be in
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charge of of what it is you're trying to accomplish right yeah man i mean i get that all the time in
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emails and two people they think that like they're like how do i connect with this person or what's it
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going to take to get on your podcast or what's it going to take to come hang out or this or that
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i mean like i'm just like show up fucking show up you can work out with us in the back every day
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at fucking 4 30 we're not going to tell you to leave yeah you know who knows what'll come from
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that you know what i mean like that's how i would look at it yeah it's just like it's uh i was talking
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to um but not show up at your house no yeah that happens but don't do that yeah but i mean clarify
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that yeah but but i mean it's it just takes a little bit of balls right like hey you know there
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might be some assholes out there that tell you to get lost but what the fuck you do that 10 times
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you're going to meet seven cool ass people right you know what i mean nothing's ever going to come
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from from not having resistance and a struggle and to go back your point about lifting is lifting
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represents that times a thousand you you can't get strong in one workout right actually actually
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technically make yourself weaker every time you work out that's right you might bench press 315 pounds
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during the course of your workout by the end of the workout you're distraught you're fucked up right
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um but you should take all those principles that you know from training at the end of a training
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session somebody might ask you a question you're like discombobulated you're like uh you can't even
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really answer it that clearly because you trained your ass off your work day should be the same way
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right you go home from work your hat should be all sideways your shit should be all messed up and you
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should be like you should be ready to kind of like drop like fuck man like goddamn today was fun but
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shit like put a lot of put a lot of effort into yeah and you feel like wiped out yeah and i think
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you could take all the different lessons that you learn from your training and apply them into your
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everyday life you're to get strong takes a minimum of 10 years 10 fucking years like what a terrible
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thing to try to sell somebody yeah like right hey you want to come in and power lift i got a great
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plan for you andy it's called the 10 year plan i'm gonna get you really strong and at the end of 10
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years yeah you're gonna be like actually competitive in the sport and you'd be like
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fuck man yeah 10 years of just kicking the shit out of myself that's what it's gonna take
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i went to the uh on academy uh recently and was down there doing doing a workout and this kid comes in
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he's like 17 years old he squatted 765 pounds for five reps holy fuck yeah and i was like what this
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kid was a bowling ball man he was he was a big kid and beautiful squats too the form was fucking on
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point and i was like god damn i'm like son of a bitch i'm like i think this is an outlier like i
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always tell everybody take 10 years yeah and i'm just sitting there shaking my head and i'm like
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my theory can't be wrong it can't be wrong so i'm watching him you know work up and go up and wait and
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he's just he's just crushing these weights and i i go over to his dad and i tell his dad i say
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this kid has one of the most beautiful squats i've ever seen his form is unbelievable a lot of times
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these guys that are young and strong they're just young and strong right just like reckless yeah right
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right this kid's form was spot on and so i i tell his dad and his dad goes well it fucking should be
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started when he was seven there you go like my theory is correct yeah but i mean it's gonna take
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a long time and what do you know about business when you've been doing it for three years no and
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that's the parallel right that much the parallel again 10 years you know dude i in my fucking
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and dude now with the internet technology and the ability to like yeah podcast and be accelerated
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learning yeah totally and so like i don't i always say 10 years but that's in like my era of when i
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started you know there wasn't internet there wasn't podcasts there wasn't social media no computers back
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in our day no no and and and now you can't accelerate that but you can't you you still have to put in the
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time man and like when you think about like why fitness and and entrepreneurship are so parallel
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you know for that 10 years that you go in to train you know you're not every day thinking about
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you know hey uh i'm gonna be fucking world champion power lifter right you you actually come in today
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with this goal like hey i'm gonna fucking do this today right i'm gonna bench this today i'm gonna squat
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this today and when i walk out i'm gonna feel that sense of pride that i did the best that i could
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and and it's it's about today it's about winning today and linking those days together over time
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and you fall in love real entrepreneurs they fall in love with the process with they fall just like
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just like power lifting or bodybuilding right those guys who are excellent they're not necessarily
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thinking for the show or the meet they're thinking about killing it today and it just happens to be
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that every workout fucking matters to them that much and that's what ends up making them great
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it can be overwhelming when you try to think about being great right you know i think everybody has
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this mindset that they want to be great but then if you really try to break it down like what do you
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mean great great and whose eyes right for me i got three people i need to be great to and that's it
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it's my wife and my two kids if other people think i'm great then that's fucking cool yeah that's that
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feels like a good pat on the back but uh the love i have inside inside my home you know the
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um one of the greatest quotes i ever heard is uh you know if you want to have the greatest impact on
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the world go home and love your family like yeah what a what a cool what a cool statement because
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that's where it needs to start like why do i need to matter to you right that much right we don't know
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each other that right right i need to matter to her i need to matter to my kids my son said something
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crazy a couple weeks ago where it just like floored me it was it was pretty pretty over the top but
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basically just uh we were talking and i think i was talking to him about maybe his cousins because
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his cousins have uh hamish and uh lachlan these these kids are crazy they beat the hell out of each
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other all the time so i can't that's their names yeah that's crazy we call we call the youngest one
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we call him ham bone these two are like straight out of the wwe they beat the fuck out of each other
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all the time and so we were talking about you know them being brothers and jake he only has his
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sister quinn and he kind of said he wish he wish he had a brother or something like that so we were
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talking and i was like oh yeah it's kind of cool because you know hamish he gets to look up to his
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brother and and i and i got to look up to my brothers and then jake said yeah and i get to look
00:22:55.620
up to you i was just like whoa like you know i understand that i'm a dad and i have been for a long
00:23:01.220
time but what a goddamn uh wake-up call yeah like really understand like this guy's watching
00:23:07.480
everything i do and everything i say and i need to really pay attention to that a little bit more
00:23:13.660
yeah yeah man crazy you know uh we don't have any kids yet but i know like i've raised i've quote
00:23:22.720
unquote raised a lot of kids yeah within the time of the 18 years we've been in business right hundreds
00:23:30.080
and uh you know i i forget that sometimes like we talk about leadership and um you know like i just
00:23:38.480
talked about we when you got here i mean i was on the phone and i was on the phone with a guy who
00:23:43.720
recently left the company right and i was doing an exit interview and i like to do exit conversations
00:23:48.300
with people when they leave uh for a couple reasons one you know if they're leaving uh under some sort
00:23:56.200
of like disagreement which this happened to be that case i want to know i want them to get it
00:24:01.360
off their chest whatever they know going into it that's an exit interview yeah they already know that
00:24:05.340
they've been yeah right let go and and so and so i i want to hear their point of view because a and a
00:24:11.940
lot of ceos they get really upset with their employees they quit or have an issue like they're
00:24:17.120
right like dude i try to look at his learning experience like okay um what are the issues is it a
00:24:21.880
legitimate issue do i need to fix certain things and we had a really good conversation about uh
00:24:28.200
about some of the things that could potentially be better and i think that you know even as a and i
00:24:35.520
consider myself a pretty pretty good leader i think most of the time i'm doing a good job especially
00:24:39.940
leading example but he pointed out a couple cases of really small shit that that i hadn't forgot i even
00:24:47.180
fucking did right that meant a lot to him right you know what i mean and and were legitimate points
00:24:52.420
that he made you're trying to make people more productive you're not sitting here trying to make
00:24:55.800
people feel bad no you're not trying to knock people no no no but and if you say something that's
00:25:00.800
too harsh or too right over the top sometimes it comes off the wrong way and it could really be super
00:25:05.740
negative to dude exactly that person maybe a bunch of other people and if i have a downfall in my
00:25:10.200
leadership ability it is that it is that when i communicate it can be very direct like very direct
00:25:18.440
right and i feel and where i see it as very direct like hey i'm trying to fucking help you that's my
00:25:25.020
job because i'm not your friend i'm not your fucking buddy i'm your coach and your coach cares about your
00:25:29.740
performance because they want you to fucking be good right and that's how i look at it so when i see
00:25:34.480
somebody doing something i'm very fucking direct with them and and sometimes you know dudes just ain't
00:25:39.460
hearing that because they hear the emotion behind it right and they hear they hear it as you don't
00:25:44.120
like me or you're upset with me or you think i'm a piece of shit when in reality that's just how i
00:25:48.800
communicate so it's if i have a downfall in leadership it's definitely that a lot of things
00:25:53.320
can be misinterpreted through something a text message or something like that absolutely different
00:25:56.880
than a phone call absolutely and uh but you know my point to you know the you know those guys do look
00:26:04.280
up to me and sometimes i forget how much they do you know what i mean like i i forget how much
00:26:08.980
somebody's paying attention right and if they see you you know cut a corner or they see you do
00:26:14.560
something anything could be you like just not being on your diet anymore and gaining weight or like
00:26:19.340
not or saying something and not following through with it something even small you know and and uh
00:26:24.360
you're gonna be around them all the time a lot of guys in business miss they they may they don't
00:26:29.820
realize how close their employees are paying attention to right you know what i mean yeah i mean they're
00:26:35.700
watching everything so let me recap a little bit i want to draw out some of the things that you've
00:26:40.980
said uh daily discipline obviously uh you said i love the statement you made of not putting the cart
00:26:47.900
in front of the horse i always put the cart in front of the horse which i would the way that i
00:26:51.240
interpret that is you don't overthink things you act yeah and then you just kind of trust that
00:26:56.160
things are going to work out you do it and you figure it out yeah well we have uh you know an
00:27:00.320
interesting my wife and i have an interesting uh relationship um you know i i'm a dreamer and then
00:27:07.320
she's a doer she's someone that can handle a lot of tasks in one day she's very very smart and very
00:27:12.700
organized which is quite the opposite of myself so when you have somebody kind of dreaming of something
00:27:17.780
but then somebody else who can help with the follow-through and the execution of it uh that ends
00:27:22.640
up making such a huge difference and the belief factor too like dude you know uh the have someone
00:27:29.320
there who when you say something like it could be it could because you're going to say shit to your
00:27:33.720
spouse been that way right you're going to say some shit to your spouse how much belief there was in
00:27:38.240
the beginning well there's a lot now the good thing about accomplishing a few things is that you
00:27:42.220
the belief becomes stronger on what you can accomplish right you know and i like i know like i can say
00:27:47.800
anything to emily like hey i'm gonna fucking become an astronaut and she's gonna be googling astronaut
00:27:53.180
school here's where it starts it starts you know do you want me to book your ticket you know what i mean
00:27:58.080
and that's a good type of relationship to have man you know a lot of a lot of people don't have that
00:28:02.440
we get a lot of relationship questions for the podcast right about like how important it is to
00:28:07.340
have people in your life that support you not just your wife especially your wife your husband but not
00:28:12.860
just that like dude the people you surround yourself with who you communicate with dude you don't need
00:28:19.000
to have a trillion friends you don't need to have a thousand friends you're good have dude i got like
00:28:23.320
three friends i got a bunch of people that i fucking know right you know what i mean i got a lot of
00:28:27.940
people i care about but not that i would call and say hey here's what i'm thinking right you know
00:28:32.220
what i mean and and i only call people i know that that the trust the abilities that i have because
00:28:39.060
dude it takes so much energy to build something from scratch right that you can't afford to let
00:28:45.020
people enormous effort yeah yeah you can't afford to let people who don't have that opinion
00:28:49.080
of it's possible in your in your brain you just can't let it when we were uh we were just in in
00:28:56.200
malibu california on some vacation and that looked awesome by the way oh it's fucking fun yeah malibu
00:29:02.540
is beautiful how was the water was it cold or was it well they these guys went these guys were my
00:29:06.500
wife and uh kids oh man yeah they were swimming and everything in there i i'm not i'm not about to
00:29:12.520
get in the ocean yeah i'm not a risk taker when it comes back to keep my fucking feet planted on the
00:29:18.200
ground no like no skiing no skateboards when you guys were in tahoe and you were like on the boat
00:29:23.240
everybody else in the fucking water yeah yeah i'm like yeah i'm not doing any of that
00:29:26.140
terrified i don't swim i don't swim very well you're not jumping in if anybody sees a fin or
00:29:31.740
anything i'm good at drowning that's about that's probably probably about my i was wondering what
00:29:35.940
the fuck you were doing on the boat snapping everybody else is swimming yeah everybody's
00:29:39.000
always like there's always pictures of everybody else and you don't have any any pictures like
00:29:42.500
doing whatever it is they're doing but um you know people ask a lot of times how do you
00:29:48.360
how do you balance stuff you know and i i want to address that just a little bit because i think
00:29:52.820
and you you probably said something like this similar because you probably recognize as well is that
00:29:57.060
when people are are truly gifted and truly talented and you end up with somebody like an elon musk
00:30:03.260
or or the the uh owner of uh amazon right up with people like that those people are not going to
00:30:11.340
really have a lot of balance right at least at some point in their life they're going to be like
00:30:14.640
very unbalanced right um when i was uh you know a competitive power lifter my best numbers are
00:30:20.980
squatted 1080 benched 854 and deadlifted 766 i was unbalanced like that was my passion that's what i
00:30:28.820
lived for 24 hours a day unhealthy too you know 330 pounds you know i could lift like a motherfucker but
00:30:34.260
i wasn't balanced i was you know conditioning wise i had none of that or anything but the way that i've
00:30:40.540
been able to pull balance into my life is to be more inclusive rather than exclusive so when it
00:30:47.040
comes to family and business i usually just bring them together you know so like on this trip that we
00:30:52.740
went to uh malibu um i went a day early my family joined me the next day i got a couple things done
00:31:00.300
the day before met with lewis howe met with charles glass and a couple other people for youtube content
00:31:06.360
and just business stuff in general and then the next then a day or two later uh i met uh at bulletproof
00:31:13.860
coffee with my brother and and my wife and my kids um with the owner of quest nutrition and also the
00:31:21.140
owners of a startup company called keto cookie and just you know it's like they don't have to not be
00:31:27.760
part of that like like having my kids at a business meeting having them hanging around and like fucking
00:31:32.560
around would be inappropriate so my kids they they went with my brother somewhere but my point is is
00:31:37.940
that everything always seems so difficult or everything always seems so hard but it's really
00:31:42.840
not if you just break things down and try to slow yourself down for a second and just make some sense
00:31:47.940
of it and so that's what i'm always trying to do in these different things that we're we're working
00:31:53.280
on i really felt strongly that we need to come out here we need to see you and i'm in the middle of
00:31:59.040
opening up a new facility for the gym i walk into here and boom instantly i'm inspired i'm gonna be
00:32:04.880
fired up for a long time after coming here like this fucking thank you very very cool what you built
00:32:10.200
and and i and i knew like i knew before i even really contacted you that i just something i wanted
00:32:16.500
to do i saw a couple videos saw a couple podcasts and stuff i'm like that would be really cool to meet
00:32:21.560
this guy i don't know why exactly but i'll figure it out yeah but the second i stepped foot in here i was
00:32:26.960
like boom that was it yeah i can i could go home yeah all i need to do is see the facility
00:32:31.440
like hanging out with you is a whole nother thing too it's awesome but just seeing the facility and
00:32:36.120
seeing everybody flying around their first form shirts i mean i probably ran into uh 40 or 50 people
00:32:41.920
everyone came right up introduced themselves you know i forgot everybody's name there's so many of
00:32:46.020
them coming at me uh but what a cool thing everyone everyone's wearing like the same shirt
00:32:50.620
yeah everyone's fucking on board there's people busting their ass in the warehouse
00:32:55.100
yeah really we're fortunate man we got a good crew here um the the you know we connected through
00:33:01.680
tony uh cinema yeah real world tactical so uh goddamn savage and a half right there well dude when he
00:33:08.340
when he he's like hey because i knew who you were i we just never connected right he's like hey man
00:33:13.320
uh i want you to connect with my boy mark bell and i'm like fuck yeah so i mean like that was what
00:33:18.800
we were talking about before the podcast right you know i love tony i love hanging out with tony
00:33:23.480
he's my kind of dude he's nuts right and if he said yeah exactly but uh you know when guys like
00:33:30.780
that you know recommend to meet somebody you have to say yes you know what i mean and it's going to
00:33:34.680
work out awesome right but um i like what you said about integrating the family and business and i feel
00:33:40.380
like if you look around and you really have eyes to see you can see that a lot of the movers and
00:33:44.580
shakers in every industry have done that i know you know now the greatest coach in college football
00:33:50.400
is probably considered uh nick saban but you know there were those two or three years where urban
00:33:55.280
meyer was just knocking out and i know that his his whole philosophy of running a program was we're
00:34:00.720
going to be a family and of course that's the way first form is you know the whole company is it's
00:34:06.000
it's a big family yeah for sure you spend that much time together that's you're going to
00:34:10.200
naturally develop those relationships the uh it's helped shape the manning family yeah um even
00:34:15.400
though the new orleans saints sucked they weren't very good but they had a very family oriented
00:34:19.920
organization and they would invite the families to practice i think like twice a week and so
00:34:25.740
peyton and his brother eli they were at every practice with their dad all the time right they got
00:34:30.720
to kind of witness that firsthand and see what it takes right now they're you know unbelievable yeah
00:34:36.200
see i have it that's interesting takes because i can't that i'm glad that you brought that up
00:34:40.580
because i you know when not having kids it's it's not an issue for me right so i've never been able
00:34:46.580
to like whenever we've addressed it i've always but it's important that your wife knows who you're
00:34:50.800
meeting with who are these people oh you could say oh you remember you met so and so yeah like her
00:34:55.560
meeting them is so much different than you just saying oh yeah i'm going to meet with this like
00:34:59.900
fitness chick because we're going to do something with her it's like that's she might be like well
00:35:03.340
wait a second right right right especially in the fitness industry right right yeah but like what i
00:35:08.920
always tell people especially when they're young and how it was for me and this is i think how it
00:35:13.340
was for you with power lifting you know balance can be looked at a bunch of different ways and the way
00:35:18.460
i always looked at balance was i'm gonna give everything i have for this the beginning part of my
00:35:25.000
life like the 19 years old to you know basically i don't know three years ago like where i had no
00:35:32.400
fucking life and and now and then i would live the rest of my life with with with whatever the
00:35:38.500
fuck i want to do right you know what i mean and that's worked well for me and i encourage like
00:35:42.940
younger people you know to if they're wanting to be successful entrepreneurs to really think about
00:35:48.740
what balance means to them because a lot most people we ask what balance means they look at it on
00:35:53.560
a daily scale they look at it as like okay i gotta go to work at eight i gotta be home at four i gotta
00:35:58.400
spend time with the family from this time this time and then i watch tv and that's my balance i
00:36:02.720
gotta have my tv time and that shit ain't gonna cut it right you know what i mean uh you you have to be
00:36:08.720
all in at some point to be great at something and when you have to you know when you're trying to cut it
00:36:15.840
up on a daily scale you've got all you're competing against people that don't fucking do that right and
00:36:21.780
so you know instead of if you're a young entrepreneur instead of trying to live by the list you know
00:36:27.820
get married have kids by the time you're 20 fucking two you know like how about this how about you
00:36:33.900
think about what you really want in your life and plan accordingly and and like gary says it's a lot
00:36:38.680
like punt your 20s i agree with that because that's what i did you know what i mean i didn't do shit in
00:36:43.480
my 20s and i did a little bit of shit for the last three or four years but basically it's still work
00:36:50.180
every day right but it's it's like you said it's more inclusive of a life right you know what i mean
00:36:56.120
like we like we live in a nice house now and like we got a pool so if we go do business people come
00:37:00.680
over and eat barbecue and shit like that right you know what i mean or like i'll have some of the guys
00:37:04.900
from the store over and we'll talk about this or that it you know while we're hanging out it's still
00:37:09.380
considered work but it we created a family atmosphere and culture in our company to where it doesn't feel
00:37:16.580
like it like it never really feels like work here to anybody i don't think it doesn't seem like it
00:37:21.780
yeah even though you're obsessed with it right exactly like nobody here is like you know there's
00:37:26.300
guys that get burnt out you know what i mean but um and there's times that are tough like there's times
00:37:31.200
a year that are a lot harder than other we gotta get a lot of shit done um but at the at the end of
00:37:36.960
the day you know most of the time it's like yeah we're doing this and that but it's still it's still
00:37:41.840
family atmosphere you know what i mean i want to circle back at something you were talking about
00:37:46.700
mark you were saying that it was actually an asset for you that you weren't super book smart and you
00:37:52.100
said the same thing so that you don't overthink things you don't go deep into it but there's a
00:37:56.040
lot of people that listen to us that i know are not are not like that they are they actually are
00:38:01.120
very smart they're three-dimensional thinkers so what would you tell them about how to get mentally
00:38:06.860
tough to where you're not overthinking things you're strategic you're thinking about things from
00:38:11.680
different angles but you're not just killing your action with overthinking anything like do you have
00:38:16.040
any practical tips either one of you guys to yeah a lot of people will have uh like analysis paralysis
00:38:21.200
and the same thing happens you see it with uh it's happened to myself with training like start to learn
00:38:26.780
so much or nutrition is a great example eggs are healthy eggs aren't healthy carbs are good carbs are
00:38:32.720
bad like what the fuck what do i do and then so you just don't follow any plan and then you just
00:38:36.840
self-destruct and you're not anywhere right you're three days in on something you're like fuck this
00:38:40.880
isn't working you switch it up right uh my main advice to people that are going to be uh strategic
00:38:48.400
um is just to kind of understand they're going to have to take they're going to have to take some
00:38:53.480
risks and they're going to have to do something uh depending on what they're shooting for like if
00:38:58.920
you want to be average you want to just kind of sit in the middle then maybe you don't ever really
00:39:02.900
need to take much of a risk but for myself even though even though i'm a dreamer there's never
00:39:11.520
really been a time where i put myself in a compromising position especially from like a
00:39:15.820
financial standpoint i mean the first order of slingshots we we put out like 25 grand or something
00:39:21.120
like that so and and when you don't have any money that's an enormous amount of money oh yeah you don't
00:39:26.000
have any dough yeah that's 25 000 times more than the money that you actually have yeah it's it that's a
00:39:31.700
lot of money when you don't have money but in the grand scheme of things you talk to any business
00:39:35.300
person or somebody's been doing some big business for a while 25 000 is not really much of anything
00:39:40.620
and so in terms of like uh just because i'm a dreamer doesn't mean that i'm still not calculating in
00:39:47.220
uh some of the risks um i guess a more accurate statement would be like i'm somebody who kind of
00:39:53.720
already taxes in a lot of the ups and downs like i already know i can't always ensure that everything
00:40:00.760
will be will get better but i can ensure that things will be bad sometimes like they for sure
00:40:07.240
will be bad there's gonna be bad days for me days where or even months where the slingshot sales are
00:40:12.700
lower than they were before so for me personally i know he said he's a numbers guy i don't look at any
00:40:18.580
of that because i don't want one thing to blow me one way or the other like i don't want to be like
00:40:22.280
a leaf in the wind and get swept away towards thinking one thing or the other i always just try to um
00:40:28.760
whatever i'm thinking whatever those gut feelings are i try my best to react off of those but also
00:40:35.620
not have those reactions be uh anything that could really cost me so those people that are cautious
00:40:42.660
and those people that are calculated i would just say that they need to just take that they need to
00:40:49.940
take that first step something that everyone needs to kind of look at like he was saying in the gym and
00:40:54.540
really resonated with me but he said in the gym like you know when you're first starting to work
00:40:59.980
out and you're first starting to like squat maybe somebody squats two plates well once they squat two
00:41:05.520
plates they might be thinking like oh man it'd be cool to squat three plates someday right but they're
00:41:09.340
not really thinking about squatting 800 pounds at that moment maybe that is like a lifetime goal or
00:41:14.340
whatever but in my opinion you have to be able to see what's in front of you the steps in front of you
00:41:20.080
and you also have to be able to see the horizon you also have to be able to see what's way out in
00:41:24.940
front of you like what's that you know what's at the top of the stairs as well as like what's directly
00:41:29.480
in front of you yeah i think a lot of people ask that too a lot of people are like well what am i
00:41:33.640
better am i better doing setting gigantic goals or data goals or day goals i think both yeah both
00:41:38.960
you break it down well also too you know in terms of uh in terms of goals like why not make some of
00:41:45.640
your goals like really easy so you can feel fucking awesome all day i saw a cool video on
00:41:49.980
that just last night it was uh this it was a retired uh admiral i believe and he's like
00:41:56.980
if you want to be successful in life start with making your bed he gave this really cool speech on
00:42:02.480
it i saw you put up a thing about a somebody wrote a book right making ours maybe somebody else put it
00:42:06.580
up i don't know i was uh i was on josh uh brolin's uh instagram is where i saw it yeah it's called make
00:42:11.540
the bed yeah and he gives this little speech about making the bed he's like look when you get up and
00:42:17.000
make the bed you you feel a sense of pride about the the the task that you accomplish and that's
00:42:24.260
going to make you want to go on and accomplish another task and then that task is going to make
00:42:28.400
you want to success breed success right and then and then he keeps going on and on and he's like
00:42:32.880
it was cool it was funny he goes and then some days they're just going to be shit but when you come
00:42:39.380
home your bed's going to be made you have some consistency in your life right and i just thought
00:42:44.820
it was such a good point like yeah and you know dude i'm i'm terrible making the bed so if i even
00:42:50.480
claim that i do right my wife listens and she'll make fun of me for lying but the point is i just
00:42:56.340
never thought of it like that like literally something that small yeah keep your goals really
00:43:00.060
small i mean it might sound like a it might not even sound like a goal like i'm gonna get my
00:43:05.140
haircut today yeah well that is that is something you accomplished because you had a bunch of other
00:43:10.080
stuff to do in that day and you got this other thing done right um i'm gonna work out today or
00:43:15.020
what about just like winning like an hour or winning a moment like we're gonna win lunch because we got a
00:43:21.980
steak salad right that's right and uh just these kind of small these small victories can really really
00:43:28.200
turn in turn into something much larger i think in nutrition that's super important too like dude
00:43:33.700
for me i'll for the longest time have had the hardest time going out to eat and being able to
00:43:40.840
order something like having the discipline to not order like a pizza right and now and like now even
00:43:47.920
to this day like if i go out to eat and i order something that's on my plan so to speak dude i feel
00:43:53.760
like i'm like fuck yeah that was a good i did good there yeah you know what i mean well and then you you
00:43:57.940
really start to feel uh just really incredible in a lot of ways because you're you're winning when
00:44:04.080
you're here you're in control you're winning with your diet you're winning at home and it just starts
00:44:10.060
to spread even more and more and you're like you know why why can't i be ripped and rich at the same
00:44:16.520
time why can't i be a meathead millionaire like you you can be yeah there's things you gotta you gotta
00:44:21.100
chip away at them over a long period of time um it it does take it does take a long time but when it
00:44:26.920
comes to your diet um or it comes to anything that you're doing you have to kind of break it down
00:44:32.340
into its smallest form so it's a little bit more digestible so you can understand it a little bit
00:44:37.060
better when it comes to any diet you're always one meal away from being back on your plan you know
00:44:42.780
you're always one meal away from being back out but it was just one meal away for me the keto style
00:44:48.180
diet works so great because i love to eat out yeah and eating out and trying to be calorie restricted
00:44:53.300
is really hard i'd probably be only be only able to eat like once or twice a day right with that
00:44:58.520
uh kind of restriction but not eating uh carbohydrates it's like you can go to almost
00:45:03.360
any restaurant in the in the country and get uh something that doesn't have carbs like a steak or
00:45:09.060
something right it's a matter of replacing the mashed potatoes with uh vegetables and things like
00:45:13.500
that pretty easy you get to eat butter bacon cheese i mean it's fucking awesome right right right
00:45:18.380
yeah dude i think uh you know it's important to acknowledge the small victories you know i think
00:45:25.440
people especially when you do have big goals because i preach huge goals a lot but it is important
00:45:33.100
you know on a day-by-day basis to see your victories you know that's that's part of the
00:45:37.040
planner that we just launched um that i was telling you about that we sold out of you know the powerless
00:45:42.260
planner basically it's just a list of five daily things that you need to win today
00:45:48.160
right you know for for you to count the day as a win and you know you go to the next day and if
00:45:52.880
you win your five days because i believe it would be a huge mistake for you to sit here and think
00:45:56.980
oh you know first form's not in this position so it's a failure it's a disappointment right exactly
00:46:02.140
like no no no it's this is this is an awesome victory and why not keep that fucking momentum
00:46:06.920
going to wherever you foresee it being right five years right and it takes you know when you're a
00:46:11.380
driven person it takes some it takes discipline to not feel disappointed because you always feel
00:46:17.540
behind yeah satisfied athletes suck is what i've always used to preach when i was a football coach
00:46:22.580
it's like you don't want but at the same time you do have to appreciate the stuff that you have you
00:46:27.660
really do yeah the people around you i struggle with that man like like it's not easy like with uh
00:46:32.900
with you're overstimulated with business wise yeah you know what i mean because like it actually
00:46:37.740
annoys me when people say oh congratulations on all your success i'm like success we haven't
00:46:42.100
fucking done anything and you get started like this is one tenth of what we're gonna do right you
00:46:46.440
know and but they don't realize that they're being polite you know what i mean but like it i have to
00:46:52.780
literally pull myself back and say okay dude you started at the back of that fucking retail store
00:46:58.240
sleeping on a mattress that had a piss stain that you didn't make right you know what i mean you know
00:47:03.820
pj had a really good uh on his uh instagram he had a really good distinction the other day between
00:47:08.700
satisfied and gratified right that that successful people are never satisfied but you can be gratified
00:47:15.020
at the end of the day you can say man i'm i'm i'm thankful that i reached this level today or i
00:47:20.820
advanced this much today and i i think that's a good distinction to make yeah you could still be a
00:47:25.180
little frustrated that you're maybe not as far along as you want to be right definitely definitely room
00:47:30.160
for that i think one of the things i see in in one of my favorite uh whoa who let the dogs out
00:47:35.760
well mailman's here yep mailman just died dog attacked him yeah i had a dog attack out uh
00:47:43.540
outside the studio guys yeah the uh one of the one of the people that i admire right now a lot is
00:47:49.880
is conor mcgregor yeah and i i just love the way that that guy's able to diffuse uh situation then
00:47:56.840
yeah like he's real brash and he's over the top and he's gonna be like cocky and everything but
00:48:01.020
he took that uh that loss that he had dude that was awesome to nate diaz wasn't it yeah he took
00:48:08.660
that loss like a real champion you know he was like he's humble he was the better man for today
00:48:14.000
yeah i tried to do a couple things and i and it didn't really work and um had i stayed at this
00:48:19.640
body weight a little bit longer i think i would have done better but he didn't discredit him and he
00:48:23.760
didn't say i would have beat him no dude he's like i think i could have done better yeah but he's
00:48:27.600
he's got a very uh like stoic mindset yeah where he's not letting anything uh pull him in the wrong
00:48:33.800
direction and he's talked himself into this mayweather fight yeah he's gonna win yeah like
00:48:38.440
it's in his fucking brain that he's gonna win yeah he knows it for sure yeah and the momentum is
00:48:44.780
mounting and a lot of people are now like he might win yeah well now the advantage and all that momentum
00:48:50.360
and all that energy inside that building on that night is going to be on conor mcgregor's side it is
00:48:55.560
with every punch and every whether he lands one or not the crowd's gonna go fucking crazy yeah that's
00:49:00.300
gonna play into mayweather's strategy yeah and who the fuck knows what can happen then dude i think
00:49:05.100
that's the best thing about that fight is nobody fucking knows what he knows yeah and everybody's
00:49:09.340
all the guys picking mcgregor uh uh mayweather yeah they're they're you know they're like oh yeah
00:49:15.520
you know greatest boxer ever yeah and it's like dude look man there's at least enough doubt in this
00:49:21.600
fight that you can't say for sure who's gonna win there's just no way and mcgregor is the one
00:49:26.760
who has planted the seed you know and and mayweather mayweather can't go through throughout his whole
00:49:31.780
career unscathed yeah they talk about him being the greatest boxer of all time well you can't be the
00:49:35.920
greatest of all time until there's been a really really harsh struggle yeah really a lot of as we
00:49:41.660
talked about throughout the whole podcast a lot of resistance yeah and he really hasn't had much
00:49:45.920
right you know ali had to lose to people that he had to come back and beat yeah shit like that
00:49:50.860
ali beat yeah the greatest boxer of all time isn't record and it's not it's not money made right it's
00:49:56.500
it's how you overcome adversity it's the story it's the legacy and mike tyson unfortunately probably
00:50:01.500
the most talented most explosive one of the most athletic and most self-destructive people of our time
00:50:07.160
super self-destructive and then i love mike tyson i love mike tyson too but he's not going to get the
00:50:13.140
credit as being one of the all-time greats he never really avenged a loss you know like he once
00:50:19.080
he lost to buster douglas which is the biggest upset in boxing history it's kind of over it was it was
00:50:24.120
kind of over and then you kind of forget about how dominant he was but like yeah who would is he
00:50:27.900
dominant against he dominated so well there wasn't enough resistance right there for for you to view
00:50:33.400
him as like uh being great meanwhile ali had to beat like joe frazier you know ali got his jaw broken in
00:50:39.980
the first round against joe frazier still finished the fight even though he lost i mean all kinds of
00:50:44.620
crazy shit like that yeah the the cool thing about ali and foreman too is they both they both fought
00:50:49.800
like fighters from different eras yeah and did well you know what i mean they kind of like bridged the
00:50:54.860
gap you know what i mean uh but dude i'm pumped for that fight yeah it should be it should be pretty
00:51:00.440
cool who do you think's gonna win who man i honestly i don't know i don't know i'm hoping mcgregor
00:51:07.400
wins yeah like i love mcgregor too and like for the same reason that you said i i i think because
00:51:13.300
i'm big on like i think humility and and and cockiness both have their place in life i don't
00:51:20.820
like a lot of people shit on cockiness like it's like it's the wrong thing i believe that in
00:51:26.700
preparation you should be humble in competition you should be cocky and you know i think i just love
00:51:34.000
everything that he is like you know like i'm not afraid to say he's the greatest no he's not afraid
00:51:38.840
to just but you look at all that for years you look at anybody who's like great entertainer which
00:51:43.420
is what he is he's an entertainer you know he's is he an athlete yes but he is an entertainer which
00:51:49.400
is why he fucking earns the money that he makes he's figured out how to make money yes and you look
00:51:54.540
at the rock the rock on it he's playfully cocky a lot and then he's humble you know what i mean
00:52:02.060
like it's a good dynamic it's a cool dynamic balance yeah and i just i don't know man i i really hope
00:52:08.200
that he wins i to ask me who i think is going to win logically i i really don't know i would say
00:52:14.140
the fight is probably going to go a lot like mayweather's fights right he's going to move around
00:52:19.320
connor's going to have a hard time hitting him i do think if connor hits him though he's going to do
00:52:24.360
a lot of damage yeah he might be and and on any day in a fight that's the good thing about a fight
00:52:28.560
dude you know it's like any given sunday any given fight it only takes one hit so i i don't i mean i
00:52:35.760
definitely do not count him out i want him to win i want to one of my friends uh george lockhart does a
00:52:40.740
lot of the diet and stuff for a lot of the ufc fighters and he's been working uh with mcgregor and i was
00:52:46.500
on the phone with him and we podcasted with him uh while he was working directly with him uh when
00:52:51.840
they're out in ireland and he just said like he's like man he's like i've worked with him before he's
00:52:58.040
like this is different he's like he's he always trains really hard he's always one of the hardest
00:53:02.380
workers i've ever worked with but he's like he's on another level right now for this fight and i was
00:53:06.640
like fuck man that's cool so he's got everybody in his corner yeah you know feeling the same way that
00:53:12.540
he does when he's talking he's not like talking out his ass like he really he really feels like
00:53:16.720
he has a great chance to win the fight and he's convinced himself of it i i really think if that's
00:53:21.180
true like i admire that mindset dude it's a necessary mindset to do big things right i mean if you're
00:53:27.340
gonna do big things i mean he's got half the world saying he's fucking crazy right now right half the
00:53:32.940
world 50 maybe even more maybe 70 saying dude there's no chance there's no fucking chance and that's
00:53:39.900
such that's such a big obstacle for people who want to start a business because they'll come out
00:53:45.700
or they want to be good inside of a company you know they'll come out and say you know they're
00:53:50.340
a warehouse guy and say one day i want to be vice president of the company people like dude you just
00:53:54.860
sweep the fucking floors and that's the kind of shit they hear and and dude developing the ability
00:54:00.220
to believe your own path is such a huge deal of success and i think if he really does believe that
00:54:06.860
he'll probably fucking win you know what i mean yeah i you very rarely see somebody who is that
00:54:12.700
has that much conviction in their plan in their in their mission that that just doesn't that doesn't
00:54:18.960
happen you know i'm a big believer in the law of attraction like uh and that when you put thoughts
00:54:23.680
out there and focus on them yeah that back to you they do and uh you know if he's really if he's
00:54:31.960
really believes it from his heart it's gonna be hard to beat him i always think you know the fight
00:54:36.160
you know i saw that quote that you have on your uh table out there and i i've been a firm believer
00:54:40.360
of that for many years that the fight is against yourself yeah you know so here's conor mcgregor
00:54:45.380
talking himself into uh pulling off this insane upset against what's viewed as the greatest boxer
00:54:51.720
of all time many of us talk ourselves out of stuff every single day it's really easy for you to come in
00:54:57.920
here uh on a certain day on a monday and you have a meeting everyone's all fired up yeah this is what
00:55:02.400
we're gonna fucking do and then all the follow through that happens and all the struggle and all
00:55:07.160
the resistance that happens from trying to put some of those plans in place they hit you in the
00:55:12.240
face and you're like uh and then it starts to be very easy to talk yourself out of some of those
00:55:16.340
things something as simple as uh waking up at 5 a.m what's the what's the who cares about what time
00:55:24.740
you wake up like time is made up right like we we made it up so that we can fucking get up a certain
00:55:30.200
time and be in sync with the sun or whatever it really doesn't matter that much but what does it
00:55:34.760
show you it shows you a form of discipline it gives you a form i said i was going to do this now i'm doing
00:55:39.900
this i said that i was going to set out to do that now i'm i'm going to eat better it's very easy to
00:55:46.660
talk yourself out of stuff though you might you might uh be watching tv and maybe you're fucking eating
00:55:52.200
some ben and jerry's and you're like you know what this is the last fucking thing this is it i'm throwing
00:55:57.980
this away and then tomorrow i start my plan well the next day pops up something your buddy texts you
00:56:04.500
and he wants to go grab breakfast he wants to go grab all you can eat pancakes and there you are
00:56:08.760
eating motherfucking pancakes right you know it's so easy to talk yourself things things just always
00:56:14.620
seem like they're so difficult and they're really just they're not that hard um but the you know the
00:56:20.840
uh sexiness of uh of not of not doing the stuff you're supposed to do is uh more attractive a lot
00:56:27.540
of times than doing what you're supposed to do but each and every day we're faced with these corners
00:56:33.600
everybody's faced with these corners and i think successful people go they go around those corners
00:56:39.260
they continually go around those corners and they make squares and rectangles and
00:56:43.780
people that fall short are making circles that's right going in circles there's dude there is no
00:56:50.660
fucking doubt that is the biggest difference between people who are successful at anything
00:56:55.880
they set out to do and people who who never can do it it's it's doing circles versus squares
00:57:01.600
yeah you know what i mean we have a lot of people uh that we're friends with um that we that we hear
00:57:07.340
talk about stuff all the time and my wife and i will talk about it later and we're just like man i'm just
00:57:12.140
really disappointed because i know that they're not going to do that like i wish they did right i
00:57:17.340
wish they did do that i wish they went through with that but then you're like they they've been
00:57:22.120
saying a lot of that stuff for a long time they probably aren't going to do it you're like fuck
00:57:25.820
yeah and you know dude the thing about you want to see them like oh enjoy some of the stuff no
00:57:29.720
question no question but the the biggest thing about the circles and the squares that you're talking
00:57:34.760
about and you did a video on instagram that i loved talking about that where you're actually
00:57:39.340
walking around yeah yeah it's the fucking truth the success i always dude i give a similar talk
00:57:44.840
the success is always found in the corners it's not found in the middle that's where everybody is
00:57:50.240
it's at the corners and when you cut the corners you're cutting on success and that that the the i
00:57:56.300
think the thing to note here for people listening is that that is a fucking habit that's a habit of
00:58:02.100
yours if you're doing the circles and your workouts and your business you're doing them everywhere else
00:58:07.000
you know it's a very contagious habit you know what i mean and that's why you that's why you see
00:58:12.560
people who are you know crazy jeff bezos who owns fucking amazon yeah basically the richest dude on
00:58:20.000
the earth right now dude that motherfucker don't cut corners look at his business look at his physique
00:58:24.760
the guy's fucking ripped he's in good shape yeah you know i'm saying like he used to be like when
00:58:30.620
they were when business was bad he was like a skinny little nerd yeah now business is good and he's
00:58:34.900
fucking jacked he's getting into doing stuff in space now yeah he's not what the fuck but he ain't
00:58:39.640
cut no fucking corners i guarantee you that and you find that with every successful person i mean dude
00:58:44.800
if you follow the rock on on instagram motherfuckers up at four o'clock in the morning doing cardio then
00:58:49.920
he's lifting weights at three in the afternoon every day with a schedule that's 10 times harder
00:58:54.520
than any of ours and if you were to ask him if he can do a better job he'd say fuck yeah yeah exactly
00:58:59.280
there's always more you can do dude tim grover talks about that that's the sign have you read that book
00:59:03.760
relentless by tim grover dude you must read fucking amazing book and he's an amazing dude he's michael
00:59:09.980
jordan's performance coach oh i've definitely heard of yeah yeah um kobe bryant duane wade a ton of big
00:59:17.020
athletes right so but he's mainly like i'm not i mean he's a physical coach too but his main thing is
00:59:22.260
like mental coaching right and dude he has this uh this term for people who are like obsessive fucking
00:59:29.920
uh basically obsessive obsessed with success and he calls it a cleaner and how you know as a cleaner
00:59:37.180
is that you always feel like there's more to do right like no matter what you achieve you always
00:59:41.480
feel like could have done better and he said that's the no he said cleaners he said if someone thinks
00:59:47.340
they're a cleaner they're not a cleaner because it's the guy who thinks that he always has more
00:59:52.520
to do and can always do better than is the true cleaner and i found that interesting because
00:59:56.620
him and i were talking and we were talking i was talking about myself and i'm like i don't know
01:00:00.920
man like i read your book and i'm like man i don't know if i would fit into that cleaner he goes that
01:00:04.840
means you're a cleaner that means you're in yeah right and he explained why and i'm like man that
01:00:08.820
actually makes pretty good sense yeah you know i still don't feel like i'm a cleaner even after he
01:00:12.680
told me that i'm like i don't know you know but the thing of it is is that the the circle the
01:00:19.600
cutting the corners man it's real easy to get that's a slippery slope you know it's real easy to cut a
01:00:24.820
corner in one area of your life and then all of a sudden you're doing it everywhere right and it's
01:00:30.320
it's it's also contagious the other way if you make a commitment to to put in the actual attention
01:00:37.700
to detail in the corner that makes success at work eventually you're going to start looking at your
01:00:42.480
physical self and then when you or vice versa and eventually it all kind of melds together you know
01:00:47.400
that's why people who have their shit together have their shit together because they're not cutting
01:00:51.900
the fucking corners off anywhere i had a friend of mine uh came into the gym a while back and i was
01:00:57.160
working on him with uh for for uh some squats and stuff like that and i haven't known him for that
01:01:04.200
long but as i'm communicating with him i've noticed like he won't look me in the eye and he's real shy
01:01:08.280
and timid and like even when he like does a lift he's like he's pretty like timid and i'm like oh you
01:01:13.880
know okay that's just like personality whatever you know everybody's everybody's different some people
01:01:18.040
like get real fired up before they do a lift i like to make a big a big fucking scene of it just
01:01:22.340
because that fits me well and i feel good that way yeah everybody's a little different when it comes
01:01:27.520
to some of those things but as we got talking a little bit later in the day he mentions to me
01:01:33.320
about his son playing baseball he's like my son you know he's like 13 playing baseball and he's like
01:01:38.100
he's like it's a mean thing to say about your son he's like but my son's kind of a pussy
01:01:42.100
you know like he's just real timid he's up there barely holding the bat he'll barely swing at the ball
01:01:47.420
and i'm just thinking like bro yeah he's yeah he's an exact replica i didn't i didn't say that
01:01:54.240
but i was kind of thinking that in my head and i said hey you know what i said it's really hard to
01:01:58.120
think back to when you were younger the way that you really were right so you got a war like everyone
01:02:03.640
has a warped image of the way that they were yeah and for you or i to sit here like we're sitting
01:02:09.080
pretty in a lot of ways right we have things really fucking good we have a really enjoyable life
01:02:14.140
and we have a lot of fucking fun every day it's kind of easy for us to look back and be like i
01:02:18.860
don't get it why don't why aren't you fucking savage yeah well a lot of us didn't start out
01:02:23.040
that way a lot of us started out very timid like for myself i was i was crippled by the fact that i
01:02:28.440
wasn't quote-unquote smart that like damaged me forever i couldn't i i quote-unquote couldn't
01:02:34.680
i didn't think i could do a lot of things i didn't think a lot of things were available
01:02:38.440
dude i didn't think i could have a regular job i had teachers straight up tell me
01:02:42.240
you're not that fucking smart yeah dude i had a teacher tell me i was on like a third grade
01:02:46.200
reading level and stuff i mean it was dude when i took my act i had i had a teacher tell me that
01:02:51.340
if i got an 18 i should be fucking thrilled i fucking went out the night so i'm like fuck it
01:02:56.860
i don't care about the act i'm you know because i told him i wanted to go to like duke or something
01:03:01.700
and he goes i didn't know where the fuck i want to go i just thought duke was cool and he goes
01:03:05.800
he goes yeah he goes uh andy i'll never forget his words he goes andy duke's for like the cream
01:03:10.940
of the crop he's like out there yeah and he's like you you need to like think about if you get
01:03:17.500
like an 18 maybe getting into like a state school or something that's where you that's where you
01:03:21.360
belong and i'm like all right well fuck it i don't care dude you know what i scored on act
01:03:25.940
a fucking 30 yeah and they thought because my grades were bad that i wasn't fucking intelligent
01:03:31.780
right and it turns out that their classes were too fucking boring and not challenging right so i
01:03:37.700
didn't give a shit you know what i mean so but the point is is like dude people i've had people
01:03:42.820
straight up tell me to my face yeah like dude you're not fucking smart you're not capable of
01:03:47.820
this and when you're a kid that's why would you why would you doubt it right you know what i mean
01:03:52.340
right and so my point is though if you're listening to this and you're trying to get yourself head in
01:03:57.300
the right direction and you think it's overwhelming or you you want to figure out a way to be rich or
01:04:03.080
whatever it is just take it one step at a time start working on something every single day maybe
01:04:09.640
maybe you set aside 20 minutes maybe the only thing that you do right now maybe the only action
01:04:14.500
that you take maybe all you do is read for 20 minutes or watch youtube for 20 like if you don't
01:04:19.180
like to read like i'm not a big reader then i'll watch youtube videos i watch all kinds of different
01:04:24.440
stuff to try to learn uh things that are kind of outside my comfort zone i've done all kinds of
01:04:30.060
things that have that haven't been comfortable for me i i own a my wife and i own a publication
01:04:36.000
called power magazine and i'm the editor of power magazine a guy that finishes high school on a third
01:04:41.740
grade reading level you know so you got to be you know kind of willing to do some things that are
01:04:46.840
outside your comfort zone i made a fucking rap video how long it doesn't get any more uncomfortable
01:04:51.380
than that you guys ever seen that but you got to see it if you never have it's just me having fun it's
01:04:56.240
just me like not being scared to kind of make some of those jumps and my point is i haven't always been
01:05:03.080
that way i became a savage or became a meathead millionaire through the process of fighting a
01:05:11.120
lot of resistance every single day and recognizing at some point having this clarity of oh my god i'm
01:05:18.500
like swinging punches at everybody else but it's like fight club you know yeah i should be swinging
01:05:25.280
punches at myself yeah i need to straighten myself the fuck out yeah i need to get myself heading in
01:05:29.900
the right direction so don't feel overwhelmed there's nothing to feel overwhelmed about there's
01:05:34.580
no rush there's no rush to be successful there's no rush for your your product to sell uh 200 percent
01:05:41.180
more like it'll just it'll just keep happening right as long as you created a great culture keep a
01:05:45.860
great positive mindset continue to work every you're gonna art the work's already going to be done you
01:05:49.960
already know that's going to happen all those other things are going to fall into place so let me
01:05:54.180
something you said there i think should be noted is you know you spoke about the adversity right like
01:06:02.440
um um and and and how things you're doing things that are uncomfortable and i think when you when
01:06:10.360
you teach yourself to make a habit out of doing things that are uncomfortable and you tell me what
01:06:15.440
you think but because i do i do the same thing you you start to realize that there's nothing to be
01:06:19.780
afraid of right and it's just it's another parallel to the gym huge right like like the more times you
01:06:26.480
go in like the resistance that you face it gets lighter it gets easier yeah it gets easier to move
01:06:31.620
and when you when you start to do things that are outside your comfort zone and they're there you find
01:06:40.280
out that not only is there nothing to be afraid of it's you actually enjoy it yeah you know and a lot
01:06:46.320
of things that you're most afraid of are going to be the things that provide amazing experiences that
01:06:50.820
you'll remember forever and but i definitely think the most valuable thing there is you know once you
01:06:55.500
make a habit of doing things that aren't necessarily comfortable you lose the fear of doing things and i
01:07:02.980
think the fear of doing things is what ultimately keeps people in the same spot yeah and there's nothing
01:07:08.660
more scary than not moving forward to me i agree so that's what that's more frustrating yeah that drives me
01:07:14.560
insane that's what drives me and to try to stay in your comfort zone all the time you're you're not
01:07:19.980
going to really get a lot of great results out of it a small example of it is like i do a video
01:07:26.040
every week called hustle mania follows me around of some of the different things that i do
01:07:31.180
and it just gives you some perspective on on the business side of things and view wise that's not
01:07:39.460
going to have the same amount of views as if i bench 500 pounds for a few reps but the whole point
01:07:44.220
is is that we're trying something different we're showcasing something totally different and we're
01:07:48.280
getting out to a new audience right if we just keep doing the same thing we might pick up some new
01:07:53.540
people here and there but it's not going to have the same impact as trying something different right
01:07:57.560
the pain of change is seems greater uh than than the pain of staying the same but staying the same is the
01:08:05.380
worse because if you're not getting better you're getting worse right technically kind of going
01:08:09.480
backwards yeah dude it's like it's like uh when people boil uh boil frog and and boiling water you
01:08:15.900
put the frog in there and regular water and don't won't jump out and you slowly turn the heat up until
01:08:21.420
it's boiling it won't jump out of the water and that's what that's what staying the same is like
01:08:25.160
right how do you know all this do we do weird shit here in the midwest you gotta you gotta test
01:08:30.060
certain things a certain way yeah i gotta peter calling me um so i have one final question for
01:08:36.580
you guys but do you want to take a second just to no i want to i want to i want to ask how how he got
01:08:41.680
slingshot going because i'm interested to hear about that so like for a guy who doesn't consider
01:08:46.520
himself smart um you know you came up with a pretty badass invention that's really affected an entire
01:08:53.400
industry in a really good way so tell tell people um first of all what the slingshot is
01:09:00.120
because a lot of people aren't actors and then also uh let's talk about how you know how did because
01:09:07.440
you didn't own a business before that right that's that was just okay i'm going to do this create this
01:09:11.340
invention yeah so let's talk about that because a lot of people want to they're like oh i have this
01:09:16.040
idea right but they don't know how to do it you know what i mean i'll tell you you know uh just before
01:09:21.360
i dive into some of the beginning stages of that the hardest thing of all this has been um being
01:09:28.320
somebody who has uh some creativity and being somebody who is an inventor of three united states
01:09:34.660
patents um inventing something and owning a business are not related to each other right it's not like
01:09:42.260
they it's not like invent this thing and all of a sudden millions of dollars come yeah it's not like
01:09:46.100
they really don't have any correlation at all exactly um although you know being the
01:09:51.080
inventor of the product i might have some insight on how to market it maybe differently than somebody
01:09:55.580
else but that's about it right uh i'm not going to know how to like manage a warehouse or or have um
01:10:02.300
employees or i don't know anything any of that so all this was very foreign to me the slingshot started
01:10:08.720
out uh by me getting injured in the gym uh multiple times i tore my pec three times the slingshot is a
01:10:16.520
supportive upper body device i created to allow me to get like through and around a lot of these
01:10:22.060
injuries that i was facing every time i tried to increase my bench strength i'd end up just tweaking
01:10:27.980
my pec i must have tweaked it 15 different times i did the same and had about three tears yeah i was
01:10:34.060
like what is going on so then i started learning more about the body i started learning more about
01:10:38.160
okay like dude this is kind of dumb like you're working the front of your body a lot you're not working
01:10:43.120
the back of your body you're not ever stretching and the muscles in the front are getting tight and
01:10:47.840
they're pulling you forward and this and that so i worked on a bunch of different things at the time
01:10:51.640
i was trying to do anything and everything i possibly could to get stronger and to figure out what was
01:10:56.380
standing in my way of getting better and so i was in the gym one day by myself and i threw on a bench
01:11:03.820
shirt well a bench shirt is a power lifting device that allows you to handle a lot more weight than
01:11:09.540
you can normally bench press originally the bench shirt was designed with similar intentions to a
01:11:14.180
slingshot where it's supposed to simply be supportive enough to get you out of pain but then over the
01:11:19.980
years as competition got greater they made these bench shirts insane they made them really tight and
01:11:24.820
really crazy and they allow you to lift 100 pounds 200 pounds over your best so i'm wearing this big
01:11:31.360
bench shirt in the gym one day and i i just uh i'm just coming off a torn pec and i was like oh let me
01:11:38.680
just let me just try like 135 you know even though i shouldn't be touching anything because i i have
01:11:44.340
it wasn't a full pec tear but i'm injured you know and so i try 135 while wearing this like large bench
01:11:50.720
shirt and i was like i was like man that worked i was actually able to do it and i didn't experience
01:11:55.840
any pain and so i just kind of sat there for a little bit and i was kind of looking at this bench
01:12:01.300
shirt i'm like well this thing's fucking ugly and no one in the ass too yeah no one in their right
01:12:06.220
mind would ever buy one of these to like just work out right i'm like how do i create something
01:12:10.980
where you that you could just like work out and it's a little bit more casual that looks a lot
01:12:15.080
cooler that is uh easy to put on and comfortable like the bench shirt's really uncomfortable takes
01:12:21.360
multiple people to get them on you can't even really normally train in a full range of motion
01:12:26.420
unless you have like 110 of your max yeah you guys have to realize it's like put a straight jacket
01:12:32.440
yeah put on your your fucking little brother's shirt but it's made out of like super stretchy
01:12:37.860
material that like has the ability to make you not be able to move unless you're under tensions
01:12:43.900
yeah in some cases it would be made out of uh uh denim some some cases be made out of like what
01:12:50.320
your jeans are made out of it'd be really just a super powerful material and i knew that that wasn't
01:12:55.200
going to be the ticket and then plus those things were very expensive and just unattractive looking and
01:13:00.160
x y and z and so i started playing around with a bunch of different ideas on things that i thought
01:13:05.820
would work really well and i was putting my shirt on one day and as i was putting my shirt on i put
01:13:11.200
uh the shirt over both arms before i put the shirt over over my head and i was just kind of sitting
01:13:17.820
there and i was shoving my elbows back with this shirt uh kind of crossing over my chest and i was
01:13:23.680
like i was like oh shit i'm like that would that would be it something that supports your elbows
01:13:29.020
and i started thinking like where do you spot somebody when they do like incline dumbbell bench
01:13:32.960
boom right on the elbows and then i started thinking about it more and i'm like that really
01:13:37.580
makes a lot of sense because the only thing that really travels anywhere when you're bench pressing
01:13:41.340
is your elbows everything else is just kind of sitting there right so i started playing around a
01:13:46.040
bunch of different ideas all of them were pretty terrible i was uh i i bought like really tight
01:13:51.880
under armor shirts and tried to put them just over my arms and see what that would do
01:13:55.620
none of that was really resulting in in anything i kicked the idea around to some different companies
01:14:02.500
um that were popular at the time in uh in power lifting and in the fitness space and
01:14:07.800
they're like it sounds like a horrible idea we don't know what you're talking about so
01:14:11.300
that happened several times i'm talking about talking yourself out of something
01:14:15.780
that negativity talked me right out of of like moving forward i was like ah you know what like
01:14:21.720
that's like the third person in a row that told me that's a fucking bad idea well maybe like maybe
01:14:27.920
it's a shit idea you know then i have this conversation with my with my dad and my dad
01:14:33.400
my dad's amazing i think every time he talks there should be like a little bit of music should hit
01:14:38.400
behind him because everything he says like this epic speech solid goal yeah and he's like hey he's like
01:14:43.800
you know did you know that this guy tried to do this this many times and uh heinz ketchup it's got the 57
01:14:49.860
on it it's like because because they're 57 thing uh uh the model t ford it's that it's t it's from
01:14:56.140
the the alphabet they had a b c d all the way to t and then the model t is famous forever right
01:15:02.980
the ford company and everything so he's giving me like some positive reinforcement i'm like oh man i
01:15:07.840
just don't what am i gonna do like make it myself i'm like i don't know like that's making
01:15:12.420
how am i gonna how am i gonna make something myself i don't i don't uh have a business or to
01:15:17.080
understand any of that i don't know what any of that means let me fast forward about a year this
01:15:22.820
idea just kind of dying and just kind of sitting around a little bit and i still was thinking about
01:15:27.600
it constantly but i i just didn't know what to really do with it and uh my oldest brother mike
01:15:33.860
uh who some of you may have seen in bigger stronger faster he passed away he was bipolar
01:15:38.900
drug addicted kind of the whole nine yards very similar story to many of the people listening to
01:15:44.360
this that probably have a relative or friend who's gone through something similar anyway when he died
01:15:50.280
that made an impact on me like you know what dude like who gives a fuck what people like don't be so
01:15:56.700
tied up with what people think or other or or concerns that even i have myself just go try it like just
01:16:03.000
what's the worst thing that can happen just go do it you know my brother's fucking dead he loved he
01:16:08.060
loved working out he loved training he's the one who showed me uh how to work out and i'm like i kind
01:16:13.200
of like i owe it to him to figure this fucking thing out and i my goal and my mission is to make
01:16:20.160
the world a better place to lift and i better fucking get going right now i went to sleep that
01:16:25.500
night and it was maybe a night or day or two had passed since he died and uh it was craziest dream i
01:16:35.300
don't believe in like uh in aliens and like weird shit or anything or ghosts or anything like that
01:16:40.740
um but i swear it felt like somebody was right in my fucking ear and it just said think and i woke up
01:16:50.040
with chills i was like i didn't i felt sick i don't know what the fuck was going i was just terrified
01:16:55.380
but it made me think and then so i started from that day on i was like i need to fucking figure this
01:17:01.780
thing out myself i need to get going on this project right away and so that was just kind of
01:17:07.600
start of it i started playing around with different materials um i uh had a wrist wrap that i that i
01:17:14.220
held together in the middle um my or my dad was holding it together in the middle and i wrapped it
01:17:18.940
around both arms we like rigged up this piece of shit looking thing and i go to pull my arms back and
01:17:24.280
my dad's standing in front of me and the the velcro pops off of it and hits him in the face
01:17:28.980
he's like well shit that ain't gonna work and i was like no you know what though that was the feel
01:17:34.720
that was that's the way it should be that's that's the way it needs to be and so need a velcro spotter
01:17:40.880
yeah yeah yeah you need someone to kind of protect you when you're wearing a damn thing right so once i
01:17:46.700
once i kind of had the overall concept down now it's a matter of like getting material so i was like
01:17:52.120
okay if it's made out of like a wrist wrap or knee wrap that would be the consistency i'm looking for
01:17:56.380
and i played around with a few different things and i found a material that i really liked
01:18:01.620
and i was like just like sewn together you know two knee wraps sewn together and then yeah i think
01:18:09.800
that would work really well so i met with my wife's friend my wife's a swimmer and uh she swam for the
01:18:15.360
university of kansas and and still swims today in a master's program and one of her swim friends uh made
01:18:21.040
swimsuits for a lot of a lot of their friends uh out of like this lycra material and my wife was like
01:18:27.240
i think that she would maybe be able to sew this thing together for you and so i met her out of
01:18:31.980
starbucks rate like uh within 50 to 75 feet of that starbucks was a fitness 19 gym and so when i met her
01:18:41.000
um i met her at starbucks one day told her the design told her what i was looking for she's like
01:18:46.260
yeah i can do that i was like it's got to be strong you know so she's like i'll just use strong thread
01:18:50.780
it shouldn't be a problem so met her like the next week she had a couple uh prototypes done
01:18:56.500
i walked in that fitness 19 the way i walk into every single gym like i own the goddamn place
01:19:02.160
because that's the way you get through the front door without ever paying because i'm a cheap bastard
01:19:06.180
i'm never gonna pay just stroll in be like hey is bob here like pretend that you you know someone
01:19:10.920
there i can walk right to the bench and uh throw the slingshot on and try to bench 135 with it
01:19:17.120
i just started repping it out like it was nothing and i got up off the bench and just head to toe
01:19:22.420
uh goosebumps i'm like this is fucking it i'm like this is gonna be this is gonna be a fucking big idea
01:19:29.680
so i went back to my wife's friend and said hey i need you to make like a handful of these because i
01:19:34.620
gotta test this shit out in the gym and there was a matter of like finding manufacturing and stuff
01:19:39.180
from there and it took you know a little trial and error uh the first batch that we had sucked and
01:19:45.280
uh for some reason had some crazy smell to it because of the dye that they used and so my wife
01:19:52.000
and i tried to we tried to wash them at home and get some of that dye out and it actually ended up
01:19:57.180
breaking our fucking washer which is the last thing we were we were already broke and we had the
01:20:02.380
possibility of losing our house at the time and um so it was a big investment to eat to try to get the
01:20:08.340
damn thing going but that's kind of how the product um came to be and then i ended up having
01:20:15.020
some fortune which i'm sure uh you had a little stroke of a fortune here there along the way that
01:20:20.000
were kind of pivot points for you and and this was really something that was awesome uh i had two
01:20:26.520
friends that were going to throw in a little bit of money and one friend backed out um then my dad
01:20:31.840
stepped in he's like yeah i you know i'll try to help so my dad was going to throw in a little bit
01:20:36.400
of money for this first order and then i had another friend on the hook for it too and like
01:20:41.640
last minute he backed out and so we thought that we would get you know get the money out uh to the
01:20:47.740
manufacturer we thought that we just had to give them like half the money then they would send the
01:20:52.220
product and we give them the other half we had like a misunderstanding uh they wanted half and then
01:20:56.660
before they shipped them they wanted the other half we're just learning the ropes we didn't know what
01:21:01.080
right right so uh now we're on the hook we need the money within a couple days because uh these
01:21:09.320
people manufactured this product for us they're waiting for the other half of their money and i
01:21:14.880
start to think of my friends and as i was mentioning earlier like i don't really like to ask people for
01:21:19.720
stuff so this was a huge deal to ask somebody for something but i had a really good friend his name
01:21:24.960
is john hennigan he used to be a professional wrestler used to be on wwe now he's working on
01:21:30.000
uh directing and writing some of his own uh feature films and stuff like that and so
01:21:34.680
you know i call him up and uh he he and i became pretty good friends while i was in ovw which is a
01:21:41.700
professional wrestling uh training ground for the wwe and i was telling him i was like hey man i was
01:21:48.640
like remember that idea i was telling you about that product that i had i was telling you about that
01:21:52.160
slingshot thing remember all that and he goes yeah yeah he's like he's like how's that going i said well
01:21:56.520
i said i made him uh i said the problem is i was like i was like i need some money and he's like
01:22:02.740
he's like what do you need and i was like well kind of a lot he's like just he's like just tell me i
01:22:07.780
don't care what is it i was like 25 grand and he's like he'll be at your front door front door
01:22:13.640
tomorrow morning he overnighted a check for fucking 25 grand oh shit just that one shot of fucking
01:22:20.640
generosity yeah i mean launched our family into something that's been super beneficial and amazing
01:22:26.940
for us uh forever yeah and you know i'm still thankful to him to this very day you know and i
01:22:33.320
remember when i had the conversation with him i was like dude i'm gonna pay you back and like
01:22:36.920
like i can because i was so i was so into the product i thought for sure that these things were
01:22:41.580
gonna like yeah fly off the shelves like hotcakes and that we were gonna make all our money back
01:22:46.260
like right away and i was like i'll pay you back in like six months he's like you know what i i kind
01:22:51.540
of have a feeling that it's gonna take you you know longer than six months just to pay it back and
01:22:55.300
we ended up paying him back uh we did end up selling all the product that we ordered my prediction was
01:23:00.680
that we'd be able to do it in a year and it took us about 14 months so we're able to fly through a
01:23:05.420
product that people at the time didn't even know existed didn't know existed and didn't know they
01:23:09.980
needed right so when i look back on it now i'm like man i was really you're creating a market
01:23:14.240
yeah that's a that's a lot different than launching a product for a market that exists
01:23:18.580
yeah protein powder oh yeah i'm familiar exactly oh this one tastes better than that one i'm gonna
01:23:22.880
buy that right but the first guy that created protein powder right had his fucking work cut out
01:23:27.400
for him right you know you're creating a you're creating an entire market which involves education
01:23:35.000
process it doesn't involve just selling some shit yeah so you know when you take 14 months
01:23:40.700
you're listening to this realize that how extremely fast that is for what they had to do
01:23:46.920
yeah i think it was about andy it's about 5 000 right 4 000 slingshots something like that
01:23:51.520
yeah about 5 000 slingshots yeah something like that fuck now you see them everywhere yeah dude i
01:23:56.180
can't even see i mean i don't know how many of you guys have sold but like dude it is it's changed
01:24:00.840
the way people train we've sold about half a million of them yeah yeah somewhere in that range
01:24:05.160
that's so it's safe to say this was overnight success right yeah absolutely yeah yeah i mean
01:24:10.140
all you have to do like to invent a product and to be wealthy is just tear your pec a couple times
01:24:13.840
yeah no shit put 600 pounds in the bar and i'm sure that'll be uh i've torn mine a couple times bro
01:24:19.360
that ain't no joke and then i mean pretty much from there it's just a matter of like creating products
01:24:24.520
around the brand and then like i didn't know so is that what you're doing now are you doing uh like
01:24:28.860
line extension products so you have the slingshot slingshot product and then what else are you
01:24:33.800
working on yeah we so we're working on uh other variations of slingshot we're working on a uh
01:24:39.720
we call it slingshot sport which is more designed for push-ups like specifically to help people that
01:24:44.760
really struggle with push-ups yeah to hit a little bit more of that general fitness crowd that's a
01:24:50.080
great idea yeah the slingshot itself works great for dips and it works great for push-ups uh but we
01:24:55.780
wanted to create something that still sometimes a slingshot when it comes to something like a push-up
01:25:01.620
uh i still see some women there's a huge huge market for that exists in the crossfit world too
01:25:07.720
you know people who are who are having to scale their workouts because they can't do push-ups
01:25:11.720
right right yeah that's a great idea so we made we made a bunch of offshoot products like that that
01:25:16.840
are more of like a sport line the things are a little bit more passive when i originally made the
01:25:21.760
slingshot i didn't really realize that i didn't have an understanding you were kind of mentioning earlier
01:25:27.160
like you don't understand sometimes when someone's lazy sometimes i don't have a comprehension of
01:25:31.460
what strong what strong or weak is because i'm around some nasty motherfuckers all day crazy
01:25:36.680
that's right yeah so like i i kind of lost my right perception of right oh you oh you benched four
01:25:42.060
plates i mean shit yeah that's cute you know right exactly pat on the back right where you go to any
01:25:46.640
other gym the dude who's benching four plates is the strongest motherfucker in there yeah people are
01:25:50.060
all excited yeah and so for me i didn't really realize that that first slingshot that we made was
01:25:54.800
going to be a little bit too strong for a lot of people yeah the assistance that you gave that it
01:25:58.940
gave you uh was almost ended up being like a too stiff of a of a resistance for them to keep their
01:26:05.560
form on the way down so i had to go back and and and make one that was uh more flexible right right
01:26:11.480
and that's that's when i made the like reactive slingshot and then we were also having an audience
01:26:16.080
chiming in you probably get this all the time i would be cool if you made this and yeah if it makes
01:26:20.040
sense sometimes you do right yeah it's always good to listen to your customers but sometimes you got to
01:26:24.400
know what to not listen to customers always wrong right that's the saying right and then so we had
01:26:30.640
a lot of stronger power lifters like oh man make a double ply version so then we made a mad dog one
01:26:35.140
and that pays homage to my oldest brother mike who passed away and then we made uh another one named
01:26:40.640
after my brother chris who's still alive um called the full bore slingshot so now we have four different
01:26:45.800
types of slingshots and now now we're adding a fifth edition to that we make uh knee sleeves we make a
01:26:52.500
product called the hip circle and hip circle is basically just uh just what it sounds like it's
01:26:57.280
a circle yeah it goes up over your knees and i've been really proud of that product because it's just
01:27:02.000
something that's so simple yeah and see that everywhere too man yeah i know a lot of people
01:27:06.260
have been using like bands and stuff for years but i feel that we created a better product a little
01:27:10.660
stronger we have some variations of that product coming out and i think it was about a year ago
01:27:15.900
maybe two years ago now uh and speaking to rogue fitness they're one of our vendors and
01:27:21.440
i said hey you know that hip circle man that thing sells really really well on the site i was like oh
01:27:27.140
that's cool because again i'm not a numbers guy so i'm unaware of like what sells where i don't know
01:27:31.500
what's going on i'm just paying attention to yeah making cool shit pretty much and uh i was like oh
01:27:38.340
that's cool he's like no no like it's selling really really well i was like all right cool
01:27:42.420
guys like no no it's it's it's uh number one selling product that we have i was like oh
01:27:47.940
like you mean like out of slingshot stuff that's that's cool they're like no no it's the number
01:27:52.400
one selling thing we have on the entire fucking site and i was like oh okay that's awesome yeah i
01:28:00.060
was like that's that's pretty fuck dude i think i'll take that pat on the back you know what i mean
01:28:03.920
dude i the products that you guys have put out have revolutionized the way people train too which is
01:28:09.140
really cool yeah you know i i mean the business side is cool but it's always i think personally
01:28:16.560
way cooler to see the difference you're making you know thank you i appreciate it yeah you know
01:28:20.160
what i'm saying like and i think if more people i think something that you're saying there is
01:28:25.000
extremely valuable you know you're you're making a joke about not being a numbers guy and that's such
01:28:31.180
a huge advantage that people don't realize because a lot of people they don't focus on the customer they
01:28:39.400
don't focus on the difference they can make like for us in our industry which you're familiar with
01:28:44.560
most people are trying to make the cheapest shit and sell it for the most expensive price
01:28:48.740
yeah and they're doing it for themselves they don't have the customer's best interests in mind
01:28:52.880
and we take the opposite effect we make the best shit and we price it where it should be
01:28:56.920
and if you can afford to buy it you can if you can't i understand but i'm not going to go to
01:29:01.420
sleep at night knowing that we make shitty stuff right and the point of it is is like
01:29:05.360
the reward of seeing people go out and lose 70 80 90 pounds or gain 30 pounds so many people tell
01:29:14.660
me they lost you know all kinds of weight and that's that's the best feeling exactly well and i was
01:29:19.520
going to transition into uh something that i want to talk about next even though this is going to be a
01:29:24.820
longer podcast i think it's all valuable shit we're gonna go for four hours yeah be one of those
01:29:29.380
joe rogan styles that's right but dude uh you've recently made a huge transformation yourself yeah
01:29:35.560
um you know where'd you start where are you now and how'd you do it and what made you do it my wife
01:29:42.160
told me that uh she's gonna leave me unless i lost a lot of weight she said i wasn't looking so
01:29:46.260
handsome anymore so nothing like that actually she she doesn't mind when i had a little extra fluff i
01:29:51.800
think maybe she maybe she preferred it i don't know maybe she's a chubby chaser uh but basically
01:29:56.580
uh you know a lot of the stuff i did was was uh purposeful it was for a reason like i i was big and
01:30:04.500
heavy uh for power lifting and to be able to handle the amount now sometimes sometimes we justify things
01:30:10.840
and we go a little too deep into stuff you know so for me that was definitely the case uh i took way
01:30:16.220
too much uh peds i uh gained way too much weight uh i was just kind of excessive with everything but
01:30:22.760
i was trying to just i was trying to do the best that i possibly could so to me it made sense right
01:30:27.500
i made it all make sense right um i fell years ago with a 1085 squat which some of you guys may
01:30:35.440
have seen that video before took a pretty nasty tumble and then for about three months i was pretty
01:30:41.520
fucked up um my ankle was all jacked up both knees were all jacked up um i'm just too stubborn to like
01:30:50.280
even fucking go to the doctor i'm like you know what doctor's gonna tell me that i'm screwed up
01:30:55.280
yeah and i already know i'm screwed up yeah you know so i'm not only that when you're in that
01:30:59.280
situation you tell you you're fat he's gonna tell you you're unhealthy he's gonna tell you you're
01:31:03.420
right you need to quit using your peds right or you're gonna fucking die tomorrow right you know
01:31:07.880
yeah and so i'm just like ah fuck all that i'm just gonna see how i see how every day goes right
01:31:13.820
you know i'm a day-to-day person so it fits with my mentality so i just kind of see how i was doing
01:31:18.800
day-to-day uh i remember there was one uh case where i was uh so jacked up that i went from our
01:31:25.920
recliner to our couch because i couldn't go upstairs to our bedroom um and our couch has like a fold-out
01:31:32.600
bed so my wife she did a you know she got the bed ready for me or whatever it took me it took me 45
01:31:37.520
minutes to go from our uh our recliner to our uh pull-out couch which is probably it's like a
01:31:46.660
workout itself it's probably like uh it's probably not much further than the distance of this room
01:31:51.540
took me forever to try to get up out of the thing and trying to figure out how to kind of crawl into
01:31:56.980
the bed and and then like you know getting up so you were really fucking hurt i was really jacked up
01:32:02.040
legs were really really swollen and stuff and so that gave me time to kind of like reflect and kind of
01:32:07.420
look and say all right you know what dude like maybe maybe you didn't reach every single thing
01:32:13.960
you wanted to do but i i did set out to squat a thousand pounds i did set out to bench 800 pounds
01:32:19.380
that's fucking insane i did set out to deadlift 800 pounds but i never did deadlift 800 pounds so
01:32:24.680
that's kind of like the one thing that i didn't get a chance to do those numbers by the way are equipped
01:32:29.280
that's with power lifting equipment on that assist you in a lift just so uh people aren't so confused
01:32:34.860
by the numbers but still insane yeah and it was and it was a lot of fun i'm like i did all the
01:32:40.260
things i wanted to do i got out of power lifting what i what i wanted to get out of it and i feel
01:32:45.180
good about it i know enough about it to teach it to other people and stuff like that and so
01:32:48.980
i was like i just need to fucking move on yeah and so at that point i started to lose weight
01:32:53.500
got in better shape now just like any other retired athlete you can't really stay retired and so
01:33:00.020
about a year or two goes by maybe about two years goes by i'm pretty good shape and stuff but i'm
01:33:05.780
starting to get a little bit bigger again i go to bench press and i bench 535 in the gym just on a
01:33:11.540
whim like out of nowhere like most weight i was handling in most workouts was between 400 pounds
01:33:17.540
and 450 now i bench nearly 100 pounds more than that out of nowhere and smoke it and uh i was like oh
01:33:23.620
man you know what like you got the bug again yeah i always wanted to bench 600 pounds raw i'm like
01:33:28.100
fuck i was like i should i should you know i should try give that a give that a try so i talked to my
01:33:33.420
wife about it she's like i don't think so we talk about a little bit more and i was like i'd really
01:33:37.780
love to just try to i feel that i'm that strong i feel like i can do it you know so i go to make a
01:33:43.200
comeback i bench 578 i go to bench 600 pounds and there goes peck again and so that wasn't enough for
01:33:52.700
me to leave it alone 100 so i go back at it one more time and she's like hey this really it's kind
01:33:57.980
of like rocky and adrian going back and forth right she's like this really needs to be like the last
01:34:02.840
time i'm like all right you know so i start preparing for a competition i go up to bodybuilding.com
01:34:08.400
and did some content for them it's the strongest i've ever been and i got 505 on the bar and i'm just
01:34:15.520
flying around with it now i should have known better because like it's not the normal bench i use not the
01:34:21.300
normal bar i use and they got like they don't have a competition style stuff there at all it's
01:34:26.740
just regular these benches are thinner and stuff and it was definitely a recipe for disaster right
01:34:31.440
it wasn't anything right but you're out there you're there you're in the moment and your
01:34:35.220
adrenaline's kind of going yeah shit's going good it's like if you guys uh if you guys had a
01:34:39.520
sponsorship deal with uh like hussein bolt right you're not gonna get hussein bolt to come here and
01:34:43.800
run 100 right no matter how much fucking money you pay him right he does that for gold medals and that's
01:34:47.960
right right he does it on the day of competition and and for myself i should have treated myself a
01:34:53.600
little bit more like professional athlete i shouldn't probably done that but i went to do
01:34:57.100
505 and uh i'm blasting it up just rep after rep like a goddamn machine is feeling so good and i go to
01:35:05.180
blast it up on like the fifth rep and just i feel and i was like fuck so tore my pec again so then i go
01:35:13.340
back into training again and i'm like i gotta still see like where i'm at because it wasn't
01:35:17.720
really a crazy like pec tear it wasn't something that was going to keep me out for months went back
01:35:21.900
into training and then my elbow started bothered me my elbow just started saying you know what
01:35:26.680
you're you need to retire motherfucker like you're done yeah and um i i kept trying to resist it
01:35:33.220
i got into a training session one day where i was doing uh 485 for uh like three or four sets of
01:35:40.160
five reps or so and my pain level was a nine and i'm like this this is the definition of being
01:35:48.680
fucking stupid right here this does not make any sense i'm compromising my own life and my own health
01:35:55.240
like who knows what could happen right like my arm could my tricep could blow out and the weight could
01:35:59.260
land right in my fucking face right you'd be dead and there's nothing any like you can't spot that that
01:36:03.460
fast you know what i mean so like this is just this is not this is this is not a good way of doing
01:36:09.220
right and and i was pissed yeah i was fucking pissed when i went and worked out i was mad because
01:36:14.680
i was in so much pain kind of like you know older person they get arthritis and these different things
01:36:18.840
and they kind of become grumpy because they're in pain i was in tremendous amounts of pain i wasn't
01:36:23.680
uh fun to be around the gym that's for sure and i was like this is not why i do this stuff i do this
01:36:28.800
stuff because i want to have fun right and now i'm miserable right so what i share with people a lot
01:36:34.840
of times is like be careful what you wish for you want to be great well being great can be maddening
01:36:39.980
and it could turn you into a fucking psychopath sometimes so dude you got to be a little dude
01:36:43.720
look i told you i told you when we were in the warehouse when i was telling you that story yeah
01:36:49.620
i mean dude i definitely have my fucking psychopath moment sometimes it costs me that's my biggest
01:36:55.200
weakness as a person yeah you know what i mean i totally get it so passionate about it yeah so from
01:37:00.820
that point that was really it and i was like you know i need to make a change and so from the time
01:37:06.380
i was uh in high school i've played around with ketogenic style diets basically just a high fat diet
01:37:11.960
uh low carbs um moderate amounts of protein for me i i probably take a little bit more protein
01:37:18.240
than most because uh most of the people that are talk about the ketogenic diet they're usually
01:37:23.100
pretty uh skinny they don't usually look like a whole lot a lot of times it's coming from doctors
01:37:27.120
they're generally not athletes yeah they're generally not athletes anyway uh i use that
01:37:32.640
style of diet to drop about 60 pounds and then uh you know more recently you've seen a lot of my
01:37:37.960
instagram i'm helping a lot of people lose weight um i'm trying to have an impact on people's on
01:37:43.940
people's day like let's get you to eat a little bit better you don't have to necessarily necessarily
01:37:48.600
do the diet that i do but there's some easy steps that you can take towards uh getting in better
01:37:54.400
shape number one is and i think this is the easiest thing to incorporate i'll just give you
01:37:59.800
a couple things to incorporate number one is like just start to drink more water dude you know
01:38:05.020
just drink more water um this is going to be you know some people might not understand this part of
01:38:11.220
it but if you are exercising then add some salt you know add some salt to your diet there's more and
01:38:16.600
more evidence that salt will actually help you lose weight not only will help you help you lose
01:38:20.900
water weight which sounds opposite of what it does but it can also help burn fat there's a lot of
01:38:26.160
information coming out about that right now so add some water add some salt get to bed you know it's
01:38:32.400
not about not about how cool you are about when you wake up it's about getting to bed early that's
01:38:37.280
my biggest fucking entrepreneur wake up at five dude it's like well that's cool if you do and that's
01:38:42.520
your style whatever it doesn't matter you got to get your ass to bed so that you can get the rest
01:38:46.680
that you need doesn't matter how much you sleep matters how much you get done while you're awake
01:38:49.560
right 100 100 i think a lot of people in terms of their health though they should start be at least
01:38:56.460
thinking about bed at 9 p.m every fucking night and if if that's something where you're like way off
01:39:03.560
you're going to bed 11 or 12 i just think that our body is i don't know i can't tell you about when
01:39:08.980
we're designed to wake up i don't really know probably when the sun comes up right but i do know
01:39:13.520
that for me it's helped me health-wise helped me so many different ways so were you having apnea and
01:39:18.660
shit when you were oh yeah terrible i was too getting the bed between nine and ten has helped
01:39:23.660
me a lot my wife likes to go to bed earlier than i yeah than i like to she does a lot more shit in
01:39:28.360
one day than i do so she's tired when when time comes but just getting to bed a little bit earlier
01:39:34.800
i think will help a lot of people um and then the last thing and probably the easiest thing is
01:39:39.760
is go for a walk i can throw in some walking try to walk i mean dude i don't walk it once a day for
01:39:46.560
10 minutes and that's such a good point like everybody and you know both of us do different
01:39:51.380
versions of hit cardio and things that are intense and hard and i think people who are overweight and
01:39:56.220
have have um you know a lot of progress to make they see that as like an intimidating thing like we we
01:40:03.540
post those videos because like dude that shit's hard and we're like proud of it right right and
01:40:06.820
we're like look how hard we're working it's sort of like an ego thing it might scare off other people
01:40:10.160
exactly and like dude you don't have to do it that way like you guys know i've lost 70 pounds
01:40:15.180
and fuck i've lost almost all of it walking like i didn't go out and fucking yeah running i'm not
01:40:21.800
fucking running like people like dude you're drenched in sweat are you running those hills i'm like
01:40:25.300
fuck no i'm not running i'm walking motherfucker yeah you know that's a great that's a great uh note
01:40:31.120
though for a lot of people that are heavier yeah don't run you should like don't fucking run
01:40:35.880
hurt yourself and then you'll be that much further behind you'll be too upset right walk
01:40:40.160
and if you can lose some weight and you can get enough momentum to where you think you can run
01:40:43.560
then yeah and if that's what you want to do you don't have to do it to lose weight right you know
01:40:47.760
walking will take the weight off you just do it consistently yeah you do something interesting too
01:40:52.120
about that you do and we talked about this a little bit through text but this is really cool and
01:40:57.200
i always had this idea and this is a little bit off the topic of entrepreneurship but fuck it you're
01:41:02.240
here we'll talk about it so when i was back when i had only uh one store and chris and i were basically
01:41:08.900
living in the store yeah this is after we were actually living in the store we were basically
01:41:12.760
living there at this point i had an exercise bike and i always felt like doing like 20 minutes
01:41:21.520
three times a day will be much more effective than doing 60 minutes at once right because of the
01:41:26.960
disruption that it had on your metabolism and you do something similar and and you you do multiple
01:41:34.140
walks throughout the day right and is that why you started doing that is that thinking or yeah there's
01:41:39.540
just you know like i i'm uh i can't keep up with all the different information that comes out all the
01:41:45.540
time but i used to but i have friends that do you know and i have friends that are up on the latest
01:41:50.160
whatever yeah and stan efforting is the one who turned me on to it and he he basically just said
01:41:55.380
they're starting to see that uh walking you know several times a day broken up into at least about
01:42:02.900
10 minutes uh has a significant impact on your a1c which is i could be saying that wrong i'm not a
01:42:09.260
technical person basically your ability to uh deal with carbohydrates and blood sugar in your in your
01:42:15.160
system and stuff like that and so he's like i think it'd be great it'd be great for you to start to
01:42:19.480
do that because when you get heavier uh it's one of the first things that gets messed up and so i was
01:42:24.920
like all right well let me uh let me start implementing it i started to implement it uh i
01:42:29.500
feel like i've lost weight i feel like in some weird crazy way it's helped the conditioning a
01:42:34.060
little bit even though it doesn't sound like it would be much when you get walking i mean sometimes
01:42:38.740
i walk kind of lazy i'll be sometimes pretty slow but you get a brisk walk going uh it can be really
01:42:44.880
great for you and i think that a lot of people in fitness they lose side of the conditioning side of
01:42:49.740
things yeah you don't really understand i know you've been around it most people don't really
01:42:54.680
comprehend how in shape a high level bodybuilder is when they're when they when they train yeah
01:43:01.500
they're hard to keep up with yeah well no i mean like on on but oh yeah yeah but conditioning wise
01:43:06.960
yeah yeah no on a conditioning workout but like i'm just saying like even just getting like the amount
01:43:11.900
of stuff that some of those guys can get done uh in the gym like when it comes to say and doing 12 sets
01:43:18.040
of back oh yeah they can go through that shit like a savage you know a lot of the guys that aren't
01:43:22.400
smart enough that aren't smart enough to understand how they can accumulate more muscle mass by being
01:43:27.580
in better shape are are kind of the more bodybuilders that aren't winning you know those are the guys that
01:43:32.840
aren't that aren't collecting trophies at the end of the day because the the faster that you can
01:43:38.800
recover from one set to the next is also the same ability that it takes to recover from one workout to
01:43:43.900
the next right and so by incorporating any forms of duration or any forms of conditioning even
01:43:50.240
something like a 10 minute walk can start to assist your body and being able to recover all the things
01:43:56.020
that you always do for yourself will always impact you a lot more than things you have done to yourself
01:44:01.300
right so yeah you can go get a massage and work out the king side of your legs but you'd be better
01:44:05.040
off getting on the bike and doing 20 minutes right right right that kind of stuff yeah and dude and i mean
01:44:09.780
if you go look at pictures of of you when you were big and pictures of you now i mean you look like a
01:44:14.380
fucking savage now dude yeah you look awesome man thank you yeah i've been inspiring i've been really
01:44:18.980
working hard at it and uh you know the next the next thing i'm i'm working on is uh really diving
01:44:24.760
into the keto diet even a little bit harder because i did the keto diet for a while and then for some
01:44:29.800
photo shoots just to kind of look a little fuller i brought some carbohydrates back in i'm not a person
01:44:35.020
that believes carbohydrates are bad by any means they have their function and they uh they are the
01:44:39.960
the uh most functional um uh energy source that we have there's no question i mean there's too much
01:44:45.920
evidence pointing towards that uh but the keto style diet um for me has helped me just in a lot of
01:44:52.740
ways maybe i have some adhd or something some shit like that and i feel like i'm a little bit more
01:44:57.560
creative i feel like i work a little bit better i feel like i'm just like a little bit sharper so do you
01:45:02.280
feel do you feel like when you do the the keto do you you're not like pissing on sticks and shit to
01:45:08.980
like no so i don't or do you just kind of avoid carbs so because i'm i'm writing a book called the
01:45:14.320
war on carbs i'm gonna dive into doing some of that stuff right uh just so i have a little bit better
01:45:19.240
knowledge base of it i don't want to speak poorly about things that i've never tried right so i'm
01:45:24.020
gonna at least experiment with some of that but i don't count calories i don't pee on sticks i don't
01:45:29.860
prick my finger right um i don't do any of that i i and i just you know i'll stick butter in my coffee
01:45:36.920
and coconut oil and these different things and i i cook stuff in some oil um some different things
01:45:42.980
like that but the thing that i love the most about the ketogenic diet is how flexible it can be with
01:45:49.700
your lifestyle i'm no longer like a slave to food right like these six meals a day and this bodybuilding
01:45:55.640
style thing they're fighting more and more is bullshit anyway yeah it's just it's such a pain
01:46:00.940
in the ass to try to keep up with that amount of protein and that amount of food throughout the day
01:46:05.260
and so for me it's like i eat three or four times a day i have a protein shake once or twice a day
01:46:12.000
and then i'm i'm i'm done that's that's that's kind of all i needed and of course i um you know i go off
01:46:19.460
the diet yeah just like anybody else i'll eat throw down some pizza and stuff how often you do that
01:46:23.840
um it just kind of depends on like where i'm at like right now i'm kind of in a mode of like
01:46:29.500
let me get through about three weeks of being pretty strict once those three or four weeks are up then
01:46:35.220
i'll probably you know uh start to mix in more cheat meals and things like that but but like life
01:46:40.060
happens you know don't don't allow don't allow your life and what's going on in other people's lives
01:46:47.080
to overrun uh your goals but at the same time someone's birthday have a fucking piece of cake
01:46:52.600
right exactly you know what i mean like um if it's meaningful to you like if if that if the company
01:46:58.640
you have or whatever is meaningful dude it's about creating sustainability right and and your ability
01:47:03.720
to adhere to a program over the long haul you know like for me my i started like to january 1st 2016
01:47:10.520
i was 330 pounds like 331 nice yeah and now i'm like mid 260s that's big yeah
01:47:16.940
i need to be like in where you are like we about 240 yeah about 245 yeah i need to be in the 40 to 50
01:47:23.340
range right but um but i mean i've been able to stay in the 60s for a year right which is a victory
01:47:31.080
for me because usually dude like i'm all in or all the fuck off yeah you know and like i've i've created
01:47:36.960
a sustainable lifestyle now that allows me to maintain and i know that if i just grind my ass off
01:47:43.100
to get to 245 right i can live how i'm living now at 245 with you get what i'm saying yeah yeah so i've
01:47:50.240
got a good lifestyle now i now i just need to dedicate myself for another right 10 or 12 weeks
01:47:54.780
and just get down to that that next level and stay there but you know um i think you know when as you
01:48:01.360
uh as as you become more successful and you earn more money than you know going going out to eat
01:48:09.080
and having a steak that costs 100 bucks and these different things uh it's it's not as hard it's
01:48:15.300
not as doesn't have as a big of a impact on your on your wallet and so going out and drinking and
01:48:21.160
uh enjoying some really great food it can happen real easy yeah yeah it can happen and you see it a
01:48:26.940
lot you know people they get they get like happy and uh and wealthy and fat and yeah it's uh it's
01:48:32.520
totally understandable because but you're not but you're not fucking happy but what a cool thing
01:48:36.960
to be like i'm not gonna be like those other i don't need that fucking piece like when i when i
01:48:41.840
sit down at you know to eat and stuff and i watch other people kind of engorging themselves and food
01:48:47.000
and stuff i'm like i that's fine for them but i'm so happy that i'm not falling into that pit you're
01:48:53.640
in control right dude i take a lot of pride this is a weird thing to talk about too but it kind of goes
01:48:58.820
along with what you're saying you know i'm 38 and i look around at other dudes that are 38 and they're
01:49:05.000
fucking like they look like to me like they look like they're fucking 50 yeah and i'm like bro like
01:49:11.720
i'll see somebody i haven't seen in 15 years i'm like bro what happened to you and they're like i don't
01:49:17.400
say that but i'm thinking right right and i can tell they're not happy because dude the first thing
01:49:21.980
they start doing is like justifying themselves they're like because i you know i'm in pretty good
01:49:26.160
shape right now yeah and they're they're like fuck dude you look great and i'm always like thank you
01:49:29.800
thank you they're like yeah you know i got these kids you can't say anything back to them right
01:49:33.440
and they're starting to like justify themselves i'm like bro you know if you're that unhappy
01:49:37.720
let's fucking do something yeah you know what i mean changes right and that aging that way you look
01:49:43.700
the way you feel you you you don't understand how much reversal process that can have yeah on on the
01:49:50.400
way that just eating right i've had people uh right on my instagram they're like you look 25 years
01:49:56.120
younger i don't know how old they thought i looked before but well see i recently i didn't really
01:50:00.240
follow you until you were in shape and so like when i went and saw pictures of you before when
01:50:05.020
you were i was like fuck you don't even look like the same dude yeah you know legitimately you don't
01:50:09.440
even look like the same person i mean i could tell in the face but yeah barely and it's amazing dude
01:50:14.580
you know and it's inspiring and i just think it's really cool to be able to be fluid and transition
01:50:20.420
because you see so many guys get stuck in a certain area like bodybuilding or powerlifting or crossfit
01:50:25.780
and they never transition from into something new right you know what i mean it's cool it's
01:50:31.080
reinventing yourself yeah and for me i just kind of think why not just why not be strong in all areas
01:50:36.820
yeah you know it's again i i'm i'm not going to try to talk people into doing something so radically
01:50:44.380
different from what they're currently doing but everyone can go for a walk yeah you know everyone can
01:50:49.880
start to eat a little bit better whatever that means for you don't have to like not eat carbs but
01:50:53.500
the ketogenic style diet to me is the only diet that corrects really bad habits and i've kind of
01:51:00.740
referred to it before as the fat guy diet because with heavier with heavier dudes man like people
01:51:06.420
don't understand people don't understand what it's like to be so fucking reckless with your food like
01:51:11.440
yeah i can i can knock out a box of oreos or just fucking kill tons of ben and jerry you know i mean
01:51:17.220
like a lot of people don't i eat a whole fucking a lot of times in the fitness industry it's skinny
01:51:21.280
people preaching to more skinny people yeah it's like well or genetically gifted people yeah
01:51:26.240
pretending like they've never really built this shit yeah right or or you see it all the time with
01:51:30.380
the with the females uh a lot of times on instagram they'll post a picture that maybe isn't their best
01:51:35.880
picture and like oh i don't mind being a little overweight and you're like you're in great shape
01:51:39.920
that's like an embarrassment to people that are struggling out there like dude they have real life
01:51:44.640
it's like hurtful it's like hurtful like people it's like oh you're 150 as opposed to 140 or whatever
01:51:51.020
the weight is you're like that's not a big deal right fuck dude i that shit drives me crazy because
01:51:56.520
it's really just like i want to be transparent it's really discouraging to people who are who have an
01:52:02.220
issue for real you know what i mean and myself and my family like there's been a lot of obesity so i
01:52:06.880
look at that i'm like man like that person's never been truly like fat so they don't really get it
01:52:12.820
dude i would listen to someone in nutrition a million percent more who has been extremely
01:52:18.580
overweight and built something right out of it versus someone who looks the same way at 16 as
01:52:26.100
they do at 26 36 yeah because they're a genetically gifted there is a such thing as genetically gifted
01:52:31.860
physiques oh yeah for sure you know what i mean and it it's just crazy to me how many people use like
01:52:38.660
their genetically gifted physique to then act like they know everything so they can fucking take
01:52:43.840
money from people and they show people how to make abs and all the fuck out of here you've had abs
01:52:48.080
since you were fucking four dude right but i haven't seen had asthma once my whole life i got like fat
01:52:53.600
dude abs and i'm like look at this shit i'm fucking ripped you get a little shadow going yeah that's
01:52:57.640
right i stand in the light the right way and i'm like fuck you look pretty good today i'd probably do
01:53:01.500
you if i had six beers you know i'm saying like dude it's it's a it's a it's just a fucked up
01:53:07.560
industry man yeah so and i always respect you know you keeping it real and the realness that
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you do because it's the truth just trying to give people something that's sustainable you know here's
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the you know the thing about keto that's what i was going to say when i said i agree with that i had
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i do agree that keto is a sustainable it's a it's the long it fixes bad habits like you said
01:53:26.160
the issue with keto that people have is whenever they do it and it's not a lifetime lifestyle right
01:53:32.540
because it doesn't teach people how to eat the other way right so like a lot of people will lose 50
01:53:37.140
pounds on keto right and then they go back to eating the way they ate before and they eat like
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a fucking animal and they haven't gained any habits and then what happens they blow up right so you
01:53:46.260
have to be conscious that if you're going to go down a path of you know a lifestyle you got to think of
01:53:52.020
it as a lifestyle right you know what i mean i recommend some intermittent fasting for people like
01:53:55.900
dude that shit works there's you know when you when you were when you were younger and you were
01:54:00.480
you know sleeping in the back of the supplement store right you were hungry like maybe not
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physically hungry but you were hungry to get better you were hungry to to do more and there's
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something magical about being hungry like there's not really magic to the ketogenic style diet there's
01:54:17.240
not really magic to intermittent fasting but there is a lot of magic there's endless amounts of magic
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and discipline oh if you can discipline yourself where you're like you know what i'm not going to eat
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till fucking 4 p.m meanwhile you see everybody else eating all day long yeah and by by 1 p.m you're
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fucking struggling yeah you're like wow i'm actually really fucking hungry yeah but you're
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not going to die right you know you're not going to you're not going to die you're probably going
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to be able to meet your goals a little bit faster than than you normally would so i just think you
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know anybody listening to this that struggles with their weight give a ketogenic style diet a chance
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try it out for like a month and don't count your calories don't really worry too much about any of
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that don't over and gorge yourself either don't get overly wrapped up in the details the other
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thing about keto so much micro stuff because i do because i do like a modified keto diet as well
01:55:06.020
like i don't i don't go straight keto like i'll fucking rotate my carbs keto and ice cream he
01:55:10.680
calls yeah right right i do keto for my first five meals my sixth meal is not but uh i'll do like a
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rotation like i'll do three days low carb one day traditional type diet you know i don't go crazy
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but something that's fitting yeah right what you can do and um and like do what i do is i do like
01:55:27.880
monday tuesday wednesday low carb wednesday night i have a carb meal one meal and it was not like
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shit meal it's just meal carbs right like i what i like to do is breakfast burritos oh yeah sounds so
01:55:39.220
good right so then then thursday friday saturday i go back to low carb and then sunday i have a full
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carb day right with a cheap meal and dude it allows me to like chill on sundays and hang out and just
01:55:51.740
have a day of hanging out with emily or whoever i'm hanging out with eat normal fucking food right and
01:55:57.740
and dude i lost 70 pounds that way you know what i mean it's about finding a sustainability that you
01:56:02.400
can live with um and if you didn't make any progress then maybe you would chop something out exactly i
01:56:07.400
mean you'd be like right now i'm to the point now where it's not that same thing is i'm not seeing
01:56:11.540
the same results so i've got to make an adjustment yeah you know kick it up a notch right i'm gonna have
01:56:15.540
to that sunday is gonna have to i'm gonna have to cut one less beer no it's gonna be i'm gonna have to
01:56:20.180
cut out the beer that's the problem because sunday in uh in business you know i have some friends that
01:56:24.580
kind of have just started a business you know or some friends that even had had a business for a
01:56:30.080
little bit and i i kind of think to myself like oh shit like you're just getting started right now
01:56:36.100
and sometimes when you when you lose a bunch of weight you think oh things will get easier
01:56:40.380
but well they don't really get easier they get like harder but you develop discipline you develop
01:56:45.500
discipline to make it easier right um even even train even like lifting you know if you if you
01:56:51.420
develop the ability to start squat like 500 pounds yeah um it just take your workouts just
01:56:56.920
take longer yeah they're not shorter they're longer because somebody else might have been able to get
01:57:01.520
in and do three sets of 10 with 135 well you got to do three sets of 10 with 405 so it takes you that
01:57:06.380
much longer to warm up to it right odds are your muscles are tight you got to stretch and prepare and
01:57:10.960
all these other things need 10 pre-workouts right before you start your workout like you need to be all
01:57:15.700
fired up for it yeah and so things you know they have a tendency to to to get a little bit more
01:57:21.660
difficult but that's when you really just buckle down you know you put your fucking chin strap on and
01:57:26.720
get and get ready yeah get ready for what's next and take a lot of pride in knocking down those hurdles
01:57:32.040
those things that are in your way dude in the discipline building you know what i'm saying like
01:57:35.640
dude i i do the same thing and that's the the planner like i'll show it to you once we get off off
01:57:40.840
the show but it's designed so that people it's really what it's designed to do is for people to
01:57:46.460
develop their discipline right and dude make the things that are hard today 30 days from now they're
01:57:52.020
a habit right you know what i mean because people always say to me so they're second nature exactly
01:57:56.180
and so people say to me all the time about business they're like fuck i don't know how you do all the
01:58:00.640
shit that you do and i'm like thinking like in my head i'm like fuck i really don't do that much
01:58:05.020
shit right and you know but they see what i do get to sit in here and fuck around for two hours yeah
01:58:09.460
exactly but they see what i do from the outside and and they see it as really hard but because i've
01:58:14.140
been doing it for so long i equate it to like getting in a cold swimming pool like if you just
01:58:18.520
jump right in yeah it's fucking sucks yeah but if you ease your way in you know and then eventually
01:58:23.580
you don't even notice it's cold it's just what it is and i think that's the same way with dieting
01:58:27.980
or fitness or business if you once you're conditioned to it you've built that discipline it's just what it
01:58:34.020
is you know i agree yeah i think you know sometimes like even even when it comes to
01:58:39.220
uh lifting you know some of the most talented people i've seen in lifting
01:58:43.160
they won't always realize what they just did was spectacular right we had a kid come in the gym and
01:58:49.860
he uh squatted 750 or 725 in a pair of knee sleeves for two reps weighing under 200 pounds and
01:58:57.740
holy shit he got done with it and he just kind of looked at us like why are you guys amazed almost
01:59:02.500
like we're like that's like world record weight like what the fuck's going on yeah uh we had another
01:59:08.260
guy come in the gym this is a few years ago and it's the first time anybody's ever uh it's kind of
01:59:12.700
like a like a bigfoot or loch ness monsters first time anybody ever caught him on on camera a guy by
01:59:18.800
the name of eric spoto who eventually ended up breaking the all-time bench press record and i'm warming up
01:59:24.000
with the guy and once you start to see somebody have some weight on the bar then you get an idea
01:59:28.040
you know where they are strength wise even though it's just a warm-up so this guy had 315 on he's
01:59:34.100
just chucking around like it's zero and then he did 405 like the same way and i'm like i have not seen
01:59:40.420
that before yeah i was like this this mutant is not from the league of mutants that i already know
01:59:46.460
yeah this is a different type of dude right here yeah and so i was like dude like what do you
01:59:51.900
what do you bet i mean you got a bench over 600 pounds he's like oh yeah well over 600 and i was
01:59:56.900
like 700 he's like yeah i think i'm like in that range i'm like do you know the record is 710
02:00:01.540
the all-time like that's the most weight anybody's ever bench pressed on the fucking planet
02:00:05.820
he's like yeah yeah someone someone was kind of telling me about that i was like well you should
02:00:09.940
go break that fucking record yeah and then on that day he benched uh 635 for two reps it's
02:00:16.040
unbelievable but like my point is that he's been working so hard for so many years he accumulated
02:00:21.100
all this muscle mass and all this strength and it was just normal to him right he's like oh this is
02:00:25.360
just me right it's like oh you don't recognize that having 20 inch forearms is on is like yeah but
02:00:29.500
dude not normal that's how fucking success happens dude people fall in love with the day-to-day work
02:00:35.000
right like dude you know when people say you got to love the process or love the work or love the
02:00:39.780
grind or whatever the fucking word is you got to not notice that it's work dude it's just what it is
02:00:44.380
and it's every day and eventually you get to a point you're like oh i'm fucking worth 10 million
02:00:51.000
dollars i didn't even fucking realize it you know what i mean or i'm worth 100 million or
02:00:55.260
whatever the fucking number is or you know what fuck i can bench press 500 pounds right you know
02:01:01.320
what i mean or whatever it is it's just it's concentrating on winning the day and dude fitness
02:01:06.080
and business are literally the exact same principles uh to be successful you can you can practice every day
02:01:13.920
by hitting the gym right exactly business you you may not always get a chance to really practice that
02:01:19.080
that way yeah because you might not even have a business yet right but you can practice a lot of
02:01:23.540
the same principles that you need for business in the gym every single day well yeah exactly and
02:01:27.360
but even if you don't like you like let's say there's no you know business gym i mean you could
02:01:33.420
still do work every day that contributes to those skills yeah you can watch youtube videos about your
02:01:38.620
subject you can listen to podcasts you can read it's all about making that day count you know in that area
02:01:45.180
the internet has more than just porn oh yeah it's like a lot of news that's news to a lot of people
02:01:49.280
dude i said i always tell that joke whenever i'm speaking and sometimes it goes over great
02:01:54.700
dude i would get i said it at 10x nobody fucking laughed there's 10 000 people in the fucking room
02:02:00.660
it was like everybody's looking at each other i know every one of the motherfuckers looks at porn
02:02:04.260
it's like look you guys whack off just as much as i do everybody's fucking that's what i was thinking
02:02:08.500
i'm like i'm like i had to go like save myself i'm like it's okay to laugh and then like the guy in the
02:02:14.040
front's like i'm like the one pervert in the crowd i'm like all right i'll move on pervert in
02:02:18.820
the crowd laughs way too hard like a joke but that's the guy i'll drink a beer with later that's
02:02:22.200
right well dude tell people where they can find you at and where can they uh tell them about your
02:02:27.900
podcast and your social and um social security number yeah yeah the last thing i'll close out
02:02:34.220
with is uh you know i think people just it would really help a lot of people if they viewed things
02:02:39.400
from a different perspective wait wait i'm gonna ask for your social and then we're gonna close out
02:02:43.720
okay good fucking up the show i'm messing it up all right so and you need to make the announcement
02:02:47.840
i will i'll let you make the announcement okay because you're the announcement nerd all right
02:02:51.660
all right i can do that so well i'll just i'll just get this in real quick all right i just think
02:02:55.380
in general i think if you just start to replace the word uh work with opportunity that you'll end up
02:03:01.220
in the position that you're talking about yeah that's a great point just stop thinking about it
02:03:05.540
being like oh man it's gonna be so hard to lose weight i love that it's gonna be so hard to make
02:03:09.400
money it's gonna be so hard to you know don't don't look at stuff as like there's a big mountain
02:03:14.660
or giant uh set of uh stairs in front of you just think about getting your foot on that fucking first
02:03:20.300
step yeah um you can find me at howmuchabench.net that's where we have all our products we've got
02:03:25.800
slingshot we've got knee sleeves we got everything you possibly imagine some of the strongest stuff
02:03:30.800
on the market check it out at howmuchabench.net and then also you can find me on instagram and twitter
02:03:37.300
it's at mark smelly bell and then my youtube is super training 06 and that's pretty much it
02:03:44.940
you have a podcast right i have a podcast called mark bell's power cast cool check that out it's
02:03:50.000
on itunes we have it also on youtube as well yeah most of these guys are obviously listening
02:03:54.360
to podcasts so you guys need to check out his podcast it's really cool very entertaining thank
02:03:58.520
you yeah um we're gonna have you on there soon yeah i can't wait i'm excited to come to the gym
02:04:03.020
and train too yeah you'll learn some shit you'll love it i've been lifting my whole life but i've never
02:04:06.800
really learned with you never really lifted until you've been to super training there you go so
02:04:12.060
i've never lifted before that's right you don't even lift bro vaughn what's the announcement that
02:04:17.860
you wanted to make he's been talking about this we've been having this review contest you send in
02:04:23.360
a review you get what do you get like 48 hours with andy frisella or how's that work if it were up to
02:04:29.400
you that's what they would get yeah in the bahamas yeah exactly so uh no you get uh 20 to 30
02:04:35.840
minute skype with andy we're going to give out five if you uh if you send in the review but as of
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today you guys are going to be hearing this on uh tuesday the 22nd of august we're in the future
02:04:47.220
2017 and as of today it's too late so wow too bad for you but we are going to be announcing the winners
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on tuesday august 29th 2017 so make sure you listen to all of the podcasts coming up i'm so confused
02:05:03.780
cool dude thanks so much for coming out making the trip out here thank you thoroughly enjoy this is i
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hope everybody enjoys listening to this podcast as much as i enjoyed the conversation so i can't wait
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to slide down that fucking arch tonight man this would be great yep yep me too all right bro thanks a lot
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thank you can't wait to be on the podcast thanks guys see you