REAL AF with Andy Frisella - June 30, 2015


Peer Pressure Will Help You Dominate or Do Nothing, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO4


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

202.52843

Word Count

9,281

Sentence Count

871

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

In this episode of the SME Project Podcast, I sit down with my good friend, Vaughn Kohler, to talk about the importance of a good peer group. We talk about how important it is to have a good one, and why it's not about the number of people you have around you, it's about the quality of your product.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, what's up? This is Andy Frisella and you're listening to the MSCEO Project
00:00:14.860 Podcast. If this is your first time listening, I'm an entrepreneur. I started 16 years ago
00:00:21.680 with $12,000. My business partner and I, Chris, we started a nutrition store. Our first day
00:00:28.700 in sales, we sold $7. It took us eight months to have a day over $200. We lived in the back
00:00:34.820 of that first store and we talked about conquering the world together. Today, 16 years later,
00:00:40.880 we do over $100 million in sales annually. We have over 100 employees and this is my way
00:00:48.980 of cutting through the bullshit, getting you the facts, and bringing you the truth of entrepreneurship.
00:00:54.800 I'm here with my co-host, Vaughn Kohler. How are you doing? And today we're going to talk
00:01:00.800 about what, Vaughn? Well, we're going to talk about your peer group. Peer groups, huh? Yeah,
00:01:08.900 peer groups. Sounds exciting. But before we do that, I noticed you were passing around a book
00:01:14.260 earlier. I was. Yeah. You're a Gary Vaynerchuk fan. I am. Yeah. What was the book? The book
00:01:21.020 is Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook. Yeah. Tell me why you're passing that around. I'm fascinated.
00:01:26.020 Because we have a, here in the office, I like to educate the young fellers. Yeah. And when
00:01:33.100 the young fellers don't listen to Andy, sometimes they listen to actual books. Right. Even though
00:01:38.560 I may have already read the book and took the lessons and tried to teach them. Right.
00:01:42.980 They might hear it better, you know, straight from the man. I like Gary. Yeah, I do too. He's a great
00:01:47.540 guy. Yeah. I've never met him in person, but I'm a big fan of the work that he does. Passionate
00:01:53.400 dude. Definitely. Yeah. You know, no bullshit guy. Yeah. And I can appreciate that. And you
00:01:59.200 said you have read Crush It? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Great book. That's a great book. I would recommend.
00:02:03.180 He's one of my favorite authors. Yeah. You know, Gary, Jeffrey Gittimer, Seth Godin. I don't
00:02:11.820 see how, you can't really can't be in business and not read those guys' books. Right. I mean,
00:02:15.180 that's it. Every single one of them, too. Not just like one of them. Well, Gary's a lot
00:02:18.540 like you. I specifically remember watching a podcast of his, a video podcast where he talked
00:02:24.280 about how everybody obsesses about what you name your product. Yeah. And he's like, it's
00:02:28.620 ridiculous. If you have a good product, just name it whatever. It doesn't fucking matter.
00:02:32.380 It will be a good product. Right. Yeah. People will find out about it. He's, I think his point
00:02:36.960 was, you think naming things Google or. Or Amazon. Or Amazon. Right. It's the quality that
00:02:42.660 you bring. Yeah. I find that to be true. I feel like people stress far too much on. I
00:02:47.960 actually just made a post about this on Instagram last night. They stress far too much on the
00:02:54.620 marketing and the idea of trying to quote unquote trick somebody. Right. Into buying
00:02:59.060 their product. Right. And whenever they should put that energy into creating a tremendous value
00:03:04.540 and awesome product that solves a problem better than anybody else. Right. You know, if they
00:03:08.780 didn't spend so much time worrying about where this period goes and where these, this underline
00:03:13.980 goes and what paper the labels printed on, I mean, all of those things are important because
00:03:18.140 you don't want your product to look like shit. Right. But how about spending the same amount
00:03:22.720 of time talking about the quality of the product or how it's going to solve a problem or how it's
00:03:26.520 going to help a customer. Right. You know, and those are the conversations that the winning
00:03:31.200 companies are having and the losing companies are not. The losing companies are having the
00:03:34.540 conversations that you just mentioned, you know, Oh, what should we name it? Right.
00:03:39.020 Should we name it? Uh, unicorn meat, you know, three, five, seven. Oh no. I think it should
00:03:43.520 be unicorn meat three, five, six. No, nobody fucking cares. Right. Make a great product and
00:03:47.980 people will learn the name and it will brand itself. Yeah. Another, another company that whose
00:03:52.400 name doesn't give any indication of what it does is Zappos. And I know you're a huge, uh,
00:03:56.720 aren't you a huge Zappos fan? Yeah, man. Tony Hsieh. He's a fucking innovator of modern
00:04:01.580 business. In my opinion, you know, you talk about, you talk about somebody who has dissected
00:04:06.680 the, the key to, to, uh, you know, growing a business through, through cultivating good
00:04:13.160 culture and belief and values. Uh, I mean, he's the man. I mean, if you haven't studied
00:04:18.280 that, if you own a company and you have employees and I don't care if you have one employee, 10
00:04:22.700 employees or a thousand employees, and you haven't read that man's book, uh, delivering
00:04:26.280 happiness, you're missing out. Yeah. He's, he is a, uh, he's a true genius. And I'll be honest,
00:04:34.140 man, that book, that book, reading his story, watching him, learning from him from a distance
00:04:39.440 has made me millions of dollars. Yeah. I mean, great endorsement. Yeah. I mean, and if, but I'll
00:04:45.380 bet you half the people listening won't read the fucking book either, you know, but because they
00:04:50.060 think I'm exaggerating, I'm not exaggerating. The book made me millions of dollars. Right.
00:04:53.220 Fucking read it. Right. Well, you know, we, uh, we mentioned that we're going to talk about
00:04:57.440 peer group, uh, the, the people that you surround yourself with. Um, in many cases, that's going
00:05:03.160 to be the friends you surround yourself with. And I, you know, I was thinking about our friendship
00:05:06.320 and I know how much you, uh, you like to razz me about being a former pastor and it just
00:05:10.420 dawned on me why we're friends, you know? Why, well, why is that? Well, well, I'm a former
00:05:17.220 pastor, so, you know, I'm a lot like Jesus and Jesus was a friend to sinners. Hey man. So makes
00:05:22.280 sense to me. Well, what do you want to talk about when it comes to you? You're always saying
00:05:28.080 Andy that, uh, your, your, your peer group largely determines your success. Let's, uh,
00:05:34.760 let's unpack that next couple of minutes. So you know that what the cultural hot term now
00:05:42.520 is on, on social media, right? Right. When it comes to like, you know, Oh, I'm doing something
00:05:47.620 and people are what they're haters. Okay. Everybody's a fucking hater, you know? Okay.
00:05:53.020 It's you against the world. Yeah. I can appreciate that mentality. Yeah. Right. And sometimes you
00:05:57.360 got to lie to yourself and like everybody hates you just to get motivated. I get that. Right.
00:06:01.080 All right. But here's the reality. If you're going through life and you're being a normal
00:06:04.280 person and you're not really trying to do much of anything, you know, I'm a, we're in the
00:06:08.320 fitness business and a lot of people are like, Oh, I've, I work out. So I have these
00:06:12.060 fucking haters. No, you don't have any fucking haters. Cause you work out, dude, you're, you're
00:06:16.380 mentally creating limits in your own brain and criticism in your own brain that do not
00:06:20.960 exist in reality. Right. Nobody's fucking hating on you. You don't have haters. Now, if you're
00:06:26.940 actually doing something, if you're creating a business, if you're creating a culture, if
00:06:32.200 you're creating a project, a product, and you're doing something, you're seeing some success,
00:06:36.000 you are going to have people that don't like that success. They're not going to be comfortable
00:06:40.300 with that success because of a couple of reasons. One, you're any of any success that you have
00:06:47.400 reminds people of what they could have done had they just done the work that you did.
00:06:52.060 Right. Okay. And by the time you've achieved any, any success, you're in a situation where
00:06:57.260 they can no longer go back and do that. You know, there's that saying, uh, that, uh, what
00:07:02.920 is it? The, the, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, but the second best time
00:07:08.260 to plant a tree is today. Right. Right. But people that, people that aren't willing to
00:07:12.620 do the work don't think like that. Right. All right. They think like, Oh, look at Vaughn,
00:07:17.160 you know, he's doing well, he's done this and this and this. And you know, he's just greedy.
00:07:21.900 He's, he's a self-centered, you know, he's just, uh, you know, he thinks he's too good
00:07:26.520 for us and blah, blah, blah. Well, yeah, you know what? Um, there's nothing wrong with
00:07:30.820 that. Right. Right. What's wrong with not wanting the same thing that you've always had.
00:07:36.500 Right. There's nothing wrong with that. You know? And so you are going to make people
00:07:40.280 uncomfortable when you have big dreams and you have big goals and big ambitions, you're
00:07:44.600 going to make people uncomfortable and people are going to criticize you. They're going to
00:07:47.860 say, Oh, why are you doing that? Oh, you don't have to do that. Or you're wasting your time
00:07:52.000 or you, you know, you're a dreamer. You're, you're unreasonable, dude. That's part of the
00:07:59.500 fucking deal. Right. You know, anybody who's thought anything big has heard those things.
00:08:06.100 Right. You know, you know, I wonder if there's a little bit of intelligence and you were kind
00:08:09.700 of talking about this, but a little bit of intelligence in trumping up the idea that,
00:08:13.680 Oh, I have haters because I think people inherently know, even if they're not super smart that it,
00:08:20.380 well, it's kind of like Winston Churchill said, you have enemies. Good. It shows that
00:08:23.800 you stood for something. That's right. So they, people want to act like they have haters
00:08:27.200 to sort of give the impression that they are accomplishing something. You think it's that,
00:08:32.040 you think they think that deeply about it or maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
00:08:35.740 Yeah. I think you're giving them too much credit. I think most people, most people invent,
00:08:39.560 invent resistance. Right. They think they're letting their own internal voice, which Seth
00:08:47.480 Godin calls it the lizard brain. Yeah. But they're letting their own internal voice that we all have
00:08:52.600 dictate and create boundaries for themselves mentally. Right. Okay. Right. So like,
00:08:57.700 you know, for example, I'm into cars. I have, you are, I have a nice collection of cars. I'm,
00:09:09.420 I love cars. I've loved cars since I was a kid. Yeah. I'm not apologetic for it. And if people
00:09:13.720 don't like it, I really don't give a shit. Right. But I take pictures of my cars and I post them
00:09:18.340 online and all that shit. Cause I think it's cool. Right. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that.
00:09:21.860 Yeah. All right. Now were you a Hot Wheels guy when you were? Oh yeah, I did. Yeah. Okay.
00:09:24.940 Okay. Micro machines, Hot Wheels. Do they, I, I, you know, I have a, I have a little girl,
00:09:29.360 but she's not old enough to know if it, I'm not, she's not old enough for me to know if this toy's
00:09:33.820 still around, but do you remember those Tyco sets that you, like you put the, you put the cars on
00:09:38.760 these tracks and they were like electric tracks. You put, Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the trigger
00:09:43.540 thing. Yeah. Do people do that anymore? I don't know. Those were sweet. Those were awesome.
00:09:46.740 Anyway, sorry. I got you off. Do you remember the tracks, the orange one with the orange ones? Oh yeah.
00:09:50.420 And the glow and the dark ones? I used to get my ass beat with those. They had GI Joe and Transformers. That's what my dad used to spank me with.
00:09:54.720 That's. Yeah. Now if dad spanked their kids with those today, end up in jail. That's true.
00:09:58.500 You know, but yeah, the, the, I know there's people out there listening and got their ass beat with the
00:10:02.600 orange racetracks. It's true. But, uh, but, but, uh, you know, here's the deal. I have a theory on
00:10:08.960 Hot Wheels, by the way, we're going to get off subject. I have a theory on Hot Wheels that dude,
00:10:13.240 successful kids play with Hot Wheels because they get into cars, cars are expensive. It gives them a natural
00:10:18.180 goal, you know, through life. Yeah. I've never met a successful guy that I know that didn't play with
00:10:23.040 Hot Wheels personally. Yeah. So I should want your kid to, to get in the entrepreneurial mindset,
00:10:28.400 buy him some fucking Hot Wheels. Yeah. I should mention to, uh, our listening audience, if there
00:10:31.900 are any executives in Hot Wheels, we are very open to a corporate sponsorship. So contact Andy at
00:10:37.760 Andy at MFCEO.com. I just want some Hot Wheels, man. Yeah. Well, that'd be great. Um, but no, man,
00:10:43.040 you know, I don't think people, I think, you know, I used to be very reserved about posting pictures
00:10:48.700 and letting people see what I did because I always thought that people would hate me because
00:10:53.500 of it, you know? And I'm like, man, if I post that, nobody's going to want to shop at my businesses.
00:10:59.320 Everybody's going to fucking hate me and blah, blah, blah. Right. And dude, you know what? I had
00:11:04.940 a conversation with my buddy who is very successful guy. He's also a car guy. And I said, and he's,
00:11:10.100 he owns a couple of different, uh, high-end cars. He's got a few Lamborghinis. He's got a McLaren
00:11:14.300 and he's, and I'm like, man, dude, you know, he was just driving wherever. I mean, he drove him
00:11:18.680 everywhere. You know, he drove him to the gym. He drove him to get coffee. I mean, that's what he
00:11:21.940 drove every day. And I'm like, Todd, dude, don't, don't you employees like get really fucking pissed
00:11:30.120 at seeing you drive those cars and your customers? Like, don't they like, you know, think that's
00:11:34.600 like bad and blah, blah, blah. He goes, he looks me like dead in the eye and he just goes, do you want
00:11:40.940 an employee working for you that doesn't aspire to be successful? Good response. And I'm really
00:11:48.400 like kind of unlocked my thinking like, Hey, I'm, I might be just imagining this shit. And so, you
00:11:54.540 know, I took my time and I posted a picture or whatever, one of my cars and dude, people fucking
00:11:59.660 loved it. So like all the things I was telling myself were total bullshit, you know, and I had
00:12:05.780 imagined that everybody would hate it and, and then they did it. They loved it. You know
00:12:11.400 what I mean? And so when you have to think about like, um, you have to think about, are,
00:12:17.980 are you really having haters or are you hating yourself? Right. Are you putting own thoughts
00:12:22.660 in your brain? Do you have any concrete evidence that you have somebody that's hating on you?
00:12:28.880 Dude, hating on you is like trying to fucking sink your business strategically somehow. Right. You
00:12:35.260 know, like it, it's not like, Oh fuck that guy. Dude, here's the reality of life. It's, it's 50,
00:12:43.140 50, it's Republicans, Democrats, it's fucking Ford Chevy. All right. You're not going to appeal
00:12:49.580 to a hundred percent of the people. The most people that you're going to appeal to is 50% of the people.
00:12:55.200 You are far better off spending your time appealing to the 50% that already like you and making them
00:13:01.020 love you. Then you are trying to appeal to a hundred percent and making them like you because
00:13:05.300 the most you're going to get there is fucking average. Right. You're going to get vanilla.
00:13:09.120 You're going to be nothing. You're going to mean nothing. You're a Stanford nothing. You're going
00:13:11.920 to make nothing. Right. Right. So where do you want to be? Right. You know, and, and dude,
00:13:18.560 people spend too much time thinking like, I've got to please everyone. I've got to make everyone happy.
00:13:23.020 I've got to make everybody like me. And when you do that, a, you're dulling down your shine.
00:13:30.320 You're dulling down what you stand for. You're choosing to stand on the fence and be in the
00:13:34.700 middle and be like every other fucking sheep out there. And the reality is, is that that's
00:13:40.160 not what life is about, man. You it's okay to have your own beliefs. It's okay to stand for
00:13:46.140 things. It's okay to have an opinion, you know, and those are things that make you, you. And I feel
00:13:52.360 like people spend so much time worrying about what everybody else is going to think that
00:13:57.420 they end up not even living their life. Right. You know, they end up living a life that's
00:14:01.300 not even theirs. They end up living the life that, that they think everybody else wants
00:14:04.840 them to live. They get to be a hundred and they're on their deathbed and they're like,
00:14:08.920 fuck dude, I didn't do anything. Right. And taking, taking what you were saying about
00:14:13.600 the 50, 50 thing, it basically there are, you know, you could, there are people who are,
00:14:19.140 are going to see your car and they're going to celebrate your success. And they're going
00:14:23.120 to be people who see your car and resent you for it. And there's nothing I can do to those
00:14:26.880 people. Right. I can't, I can't do anything to those people. I can't affect their thought
00:14:30.280 process. They're so far gone. There's nothing I can say or do to fix it. Right. So it doesn't
00:14:34.160 make a difference. And I know you, you brought this up a while ago, you and I were talking and
00:14:38.280 you were saying, you know, you, you used to be really self-conscious, kind of like what you were
00:14:41.600 saying. You used to be self-conscious about, about driving these cars around. But now that you
00:14:46.080 aren't, you, there are all sorts of stories where you're running into, you know, you're pulling up
00:14:50.660 into a gas station and little kids are running up and they're just amazed. And it provides a great
00:14:55.020 opportunity to brighten some little kid's day. You have no idea how much of that it is. It's 10
00:15:00.440 times more of that than it is any negativity. I have never one time had a negative experience in
00:15:04.560 one of my cars ever. Not once. Right. Now, maybe when I drove away, somebody said, Hey,
00:15:09.700 fuck that guy, but I don't know that for sure. So if I were to think that I'd be making it up
00:15:13.460 my head. Right. Right. Right. And honestly, do I really give a shit? No, no. Cause it doesn't
00:15:17.700 matter. Right. You know, I'm fucking driving away in my Lamborghini smiling and having a
00:15:23.280 good fucking day. Right. If you don't like it, tough shit. Right. So do the shit that I
00:15:27.180 did for the last 20 years. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. So, so dude, let's, let's
00:15:31.960 be real here. It doesn't fucking matter what other people say and see, and that's where
00:15:36.320 this gets dangerous. Where it gets dangerous is, is that people listen to what other people
00:15:41.140 say and they take into consideration what other people say when they're not even saying
00:15:48.120 it. All right. So people mentally create quote unquote haters in their mind, pretend they're
00:15:54.360 saying shit and then don't do shit to appease people that aren't even really saying negative
00:15:59.820 shit. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. It doesn't. Do you understand what I'm saying?
00:16:04.440 Absolutely. So you're, you're basically talking yourself out of being great. Right. Right.
00:16:10.360 You know what I mean? That's what it is. It's you talking yourself out of being great.
00:16:13.400 Absolutely. Now that I, I can imagine there's people out there in the, uh, in the listening
00:16:18.060 audience who maybe they were dropped on their heads when they were kids or they had one too
00:16:21.700 many, uh, I don't know, sniffs of, do you sniff, do you sniff glue or are you still, I was
00:16:26.640 going to say sniff marijuana. See, I don't even know if you, do you sniff marijuana?
00:16:29.780 I don't know, man. I, you know, I, I, I don't know. Anyway, my comment. Anyway, my point
00:16:38.280 is, is that they're probably thinking, what? Okay, wait, I thought you were going to talk
00:16:41.020 about peer groups. Why are you talking about haters? And, and what the rest of you don't
00:16:45.140 realize is that you guys are playing checkers and, uh, we're playing chess because what we're
00:16:49.580 talking about here is the very foundational truth of your peer group. It's either going,
00:16:55.380 you're either going to be surrounded by haters or you're going to be surrounded by people
00:16:58.280 who want you to succeed. That's right. So flesh that out a little bit more. Look, here's
00:17:01.300 the thing. You only have so much daily energy. You don't, you've only got a hundred units
00:17:05.540 of energy. And if you spent 80 of them trying to appease people that are negative and pulling
00:17:09.420 you back and telling you things like, you don't need to be doing that. Why are you doing
00:17:13.240 that? Constantly questioning your dreams, making you doubt yourself. You know, I don't know
00:17:18.060 if I, you know, I don't know if I should really do that because mom and dad think that
00:17:21.020 that's stupid, blah, blah, blah. Like dude, all this shit, you spend your time dealing
00:17:25.020 with that. You don't have the proper energy it takes to move forward. So people think
00:17:30.600 that they can maintain a peer group that's negative because they have these weird, these
00:17:36.820 weird feelings of like loyalty. Like, Oh, I've known him my whole life. So what?
00:17:40.540 Right. Oh, I, Oh, they're related to me. So what? Right. If they affect your life in a
00:17:45.480 negative way, it shouldn't be fucking in your life. Right. So they tell these stories themselves
00:17:50.280 about being loyal to these people who have nothing good to offer these people. Don't
00:17:54.520 support them. Don't encourage them. Don't push them forward. And they feel like they
00:17:58.020 need to be around these people. Right. Because of obligation. And maybe they need to be in
00:18:02.540 their lives per se, but they certainly don't need to be the primary influence. I mean, dude,
00:18:05.880 I'm pretty cutthroat. Like, like dude, if somebody fucks with me in terms of like what I'm trying
00:18:11.140 to do, they're out. Right. That's it. I look at it as a sports team. Right. All right. You're
00:18:15.680 cut. Yeah. I've got my own sports team. I'm trying to win the fucking Super
00:18:19.040 Bowl. Right. And if you're on the team and you're, you're hindering that you're
00:18:22.820 fucking cut. Right. That's how I look at it. Right. And so not everybody has no,
00:18:28.220 that's something I've grown to do, you know, and any, any person who is truly built
00:18:36.140 something from zero to big, and we're not even big. We're what you would consider,
00:18:40.560 I think like small and medium, you know, but like I'm talking billion dollar
00:18:45.080 companies, those, those people don't surround themselves with the people they grew up
00:18:48.100 with just cause they grew up with them. You know? So the idea that you can surround
00:18:52.600 yourself with people who are negative and hold you back and still be successful is
00:18:56.940 total bullshit. You can't do it because you only have so much energy and that energy
00:19:03.000 has to be spent on being creative, on being productive, on talking about moving
00:19:05.980 forward, on working with people who are also like-minded on moving forward with
00:19:10.600 projects. I mean, there's just a multitude of things that you have to do to be
00:19:14.500 successful. And spending that time worrying about what Aunt Susie said about your dream
00:19:21.000 or your friend from kindergarten said about your new car is fucking not one of them.
00:19:26.920 Right. Right. You know what I mean?
00:19:28.280 Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, my hope, and I know it's your hope too, is that the MFCEO
00:19:32.760 project is going to be different from other, you know, quote unquote motivational speakers
00:19:37.420 or success podcasts. We're not about just giving these broad, you know, cliches and
00:19:44.100 we want to unpack it and share the truth. So I have a two-part question for you. Number
00:19:48.640 one is the term negative, as in negative people or haters, that's pretty broad.
00:19:52.980 Yeah.
00:19:53.340 So unpack, like, what are specific character qualities? And then the second thing I want
00:20:00.020 to, and maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I would really like to know, I mean, sometimes
00:20:04.040 people who are negative are really sneaky about it. Like they're passive aggressive or
00:20:08.040 they're sort of, so talk about like things, character qualities in people to watch out
00:20:13.160 for. And maybe even some of those things that people do that are not overt, they're not over
00:20:17.300 there going, man, I think you're going to look, man, if somebody is fucking neutral about
00:20:20.660 your goals and dreams, they're fucking negative. Okay. If they're neutral, they're fucking
00:20:24.960 negative. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. The easiest way to identify negative people is if they're
00:20:30.200 not fucking clapping when you fucking win. If they're not supporting you, if they're not
00:20:33.660 telling you, dude, go do that shit. That's awesome. I think it's cool. If they're neutral,
00:20:37.940 don't say anything. That's cut them. Okay. That's how you know. Yeah. That's how you
00:20:42.200 know. So you don't wait for him to say like the two part question you just asked me, if
00:20:47.220 you, if you cut everybody that's neutral, yeah, they take care of both of it. Right.
00:20:51.840 Take care of everybody. Yeah. So, so dude, if they're neutral, they're negative. Yeah.
00:20:55.200 In my book. Yeah. Now, not everybody is like, you know, to what we talked about a minute
00:20:58.860 ago, people are gonna be like, Oh, what about people you're related to? And they're, I can't
00:21:02.760 cut my own family. Bull fucking shit. You can't. If you got a family member and your
00:21:08.280 family, just because they are related to you and they tell you constantly that you're, you're
00:21:13.100 crazy. You're fucking wasting your time. You're, you need to get a real job. You need to blah,
00:21:18.940 blah, blah, blah. Dude, all the shit that people used to tell me, dude, you get rid of them.
00:21:23.120 Those people, those people are not your friends. They are not helping you. They are not in this
00:21:29.680 with you. You don't have time for that. Right. And that's a harsh reality. That's something
00:21:34.600 that's very hard for people to accept. And a lot of people will, I get emails a lot. I
00:21:39.300 can't believe you said that. And sometimes I get emails from people that even I'm related
00:21:43.620 to and they're like, I can't believe you said that about this. Well, dude, I'm sorry, but
00:21:47.480 that's the fucking truth. Right. You know what I'm saying? You cannot spend your time around
00:21:52.800 people that don't believe in you and aren't genuinely happy for you, your ambitions, your
00:21:58.100 success or support your work. You can't do it. You don't have, nobody has enough power or strength
00:22:04.620 or energy to do that. Right. You know, um, it's, it's, it's like, dude, when you have a bad
00:22:10.460 girlfriend or something, you know, and she's telling you work too much and you're, you're not
00:22:14.540 this and you know, dude, I can't tell you how many fucking dreams have been shattered because of
00:22:21.000 fucking bad girlfriends. It's like the worst thing ever. Because that's the social media quote
00:22:25.160 today. No, dude, it's dream killers, man. They're fucking dream killers. Bad girlfriend,
00:22:29.320 worst thing ever. Because dude, you, you love them. You, you, you care about them. You want the
00:22:35.620 best for them. You're working to build a life for that person. And they're telling you, you don't
00:22:40.260 spend enough time with me. You work too much. You're this, you're that, you know? Well, well,
00:22:45.040 dude, when you, when you're fighting that battle at that close relationship, it's impossible to be
00:22:50.120 successful. It is literally impossible. Now, do you think girlfriends are particularly bad or can
00:22:55.020 there be bad boyfriends too? Oh yeah. Obviously, you know, that's, they're, that's, I'm talking
00:23:00.820 about both sexes. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know, I'm talking about anyone, man. Right. You know? Um,
00:23:05.060 but a lot of times it is the people closest to you that you're not realizing are holding you back.
00:23:09.280 Yeah. You know? And dude, that is not, that's something that is not, if their ambitions don't line
00:23:15.900 up with yours and they don't want to live the kind of life that you want to live, that's okay.
00:23:20.680 It doesn't make them a bad person. It just makes them a bad person for you. You know what
00:23:25.020 I mean? Yeah, absolutely. So you have to look at it like your natures in terms of like what
00:23:30.820 their nature and their standards are. Do not line up with your nature and your standards
00:23:34.420 and you part ways. There's no, there shouldn't be any animosity or hatred there. It's just the
00:23:38.580 way it is. Right. You know? And, uh, I feel like, I feel like people don't recognize how
00:23:46.900 detrimental that is when you hold a relationship close to you that is not supportive of what
00:23:51.920 you're doing. Right. It makes it literally impossible. Right. Right. Now, as you're talking
00:23:56.660 though, it's going through my head and I'm picturing the person who they, they kind of are
00:24:03.420 messed up. I mean, they, they, they don't have their life together and then, and maybe
00:24:08.240 their dad or their mom is saying, Hey, here's how, here's how you can improve yourself. Here's
00:24:12.040 how you're, and their response to their mom or dad or whoever is in their life is, Oh,
00:24:16.040 you're a hater, man. You're criticizing me. What's the difference? What's the difference
00:24:19.900 between the two things? Hey man, some people are just stupid. Okay. That's the reality.
00:24:23.280 Well, that's true. Some people are immature. Some people haven't figured it out. I mean,
00:24:26.800 I think we've all gone through that. But point being is that you're not saying that
00:24:30.600 that somebody who's offering you legitimate criticism is a hater. No, there's a huge difference
00:24:35.680 between legitimate criticism and quote unquote hating. Right. If they're saying, Hey Vaughn,
00:24:42.060 you're doing this wrong and this is how I think you should do it. That's criticism. Right. If
00:24:48.560 I'm saying, Hey Vaughn, you fucking suck. That's hating. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And
00:24:54.320 you're never going to get better. No. So pay attention. Is somebody offering you a way to improve
00:24:58.400 with their criticism or are they just offering you criticism? Because that's how you identify
00:25:04.120 people who are quote unquote haters. Right. Versus people who are just trying to fucking help you.
00:25:10.320 Plus, I think you'd agree that when the people who are sharing the criticism approach you,
00:25:14.360 you can usually tell by their demeanor that it almost hurts them to have to tell you this.
00:25:18.420 And not only that, you know, pre-qualify the person, especially in business. You know,
00:25:22.300 if you've got a business person who's a, who is where you want to be and they, and they look down
00:25:28.340 at you and they say, Andy, you're doing this wrong and this is how you should be doing it.
00:25:35.200 I'm probably going to fucking examine the way I'm doing it. And listen, I have a few people that I
00:25:39.520 list to on a, on a, I list to them very carefully when they speak. Right. Okay. If the person's where
00:25:44.720 you want to be and they're telling you like, Hey, this is wrong and you should do it this way.
00:25:47.720 Okay. That's, that's probably constructive criticism. Don't get all mad and act like a
00:25:52.760 little baby and cry. But if somebody who is on the same level as you or lower and they say something
00:25:59.380 like, Hey, you're doing that wrong, blah, blah, blah, dude, you kind of have to take that with a
00:26:04.380 grain of salt and learn to trust yourself and if, and, and, and accept the fact that if you make the
00:26:08.440 mistake, it's your mistake, you have to own it and you'll, you'll learn from it. You know what I
00:26:12.500 mean? But, but here's the reality. Okay. We're talking about peer groups and the thing about peer
00:26:16.680 groups is this. Peer groups are called peer groups for a reason. All right. What would
00:26:24.960 your peer, what would you define peer group as Vaughn? Well, the people that you're surrounding
00:26:30.340 yourself with, but their peers, what does that mean? Oh, people on your level, right? On your
00:26:34.480 level, which way? Horizontally. Okay. So they're similar to you in income. They're similar to you
00:26:41.380 in success and lifestyle and, and, and in what, basically what you're trying to do in life.
00:26:45.600 Okay. Yeah. So they could be similar to you in a million different ways. Um, or, or similar to
00:26:52.340 you in some ways and then different in other ways. So like we're talking about business here,
00:26:55.220 entrepreneurship, right? So we're talking about entrepreneurial peer groups. All right.
00:27:00.000 These would be people who are like-minded, right? By definition of peer group, right? These would be
00:27:09.120 people at least in the, the focus of their lives, the topic, the topic matter of their lives. Yeah.
00:27:13.300 That's right. So the point I'm trying to make here is this, when you're not in business and you go into
00:27:23.360 business, those people who are your friends that you surround yourself, that you drink beer with on
00:27:28.460 Friday night and Saturday nights, they're no longer your peer group. You're outgrowing that.
00:27:36.440 Okay. When you earn a hundred thousand dollars a year, you're probably going to be around other
00:27:41.800 entrepreneurs that are earning the same amount. Right. Okay. They're going to have things to talk
00:27:46.620 about when you grow out of that group and you grow to a million dollars a year in income that,
00:27:53.780 if you spend your time around that other group, that's not going to be productive for you.
00:27:58.460 They're going to, they're, they're probably going to hold you back. They're probably going to not
00:28:02.220 like the fact that you've been more successful than them. And they're probably going to not support
00:28:06.820 you the same way they did when you were on their level. That's just human nature.
00:28:10.180 Wait. So I, I want to be clear here. So you're saying that if you get up to where you're doing a
00:28:15.300 million dollars, you don't suggest hanging out with entrepreneurs who have only made several
00:28:19.560 a hundred thousand. I'm using it as an example. Okay. Okay. I'm saying that I'm using that as an
00:28:26.920 example to describe the process of growth. When people grow and you're growing past what was
00:28:33.340 previously your peer group, those people are no longer your peer group anymore. They're, they're,
00:28:38.500 do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, I gotcha. So I'm not saying specifically.
00:28:41.560 You have to play devil's advocate. No, no, no. I'm not saying specifically. I have friends that
00:28:47.240 make nowhere near the income I make. I have friends that make a hundred times what I make.
00:28:54.060 Okay. There are exceptions to what I'm saying. Right. But generally who you want to spend your
00:28:59.300 most time about and take advice from is going to be people who are similar to you or slightly more
00:29:07.980 successful or, or, or a lot more successful. Right. You see what I'm saying? Right. So you have
00:29:13.260 to always work to put your energy into cultivating a network of success. You know, if you're spending
00:29:21.920 all your time trying to build something great and trying to do something that, that other people
00:29:27.820 aren't willing to do. And then you go out to Thursday night softball and spend Thursday night
00:29:31.640 through, through Monday morning, drinking and partying with people that don't give a fuck about
00:29:36.320 being successful, dude, that's going to affect you. You know what I mean? That's going to,
00:29:41.660 that's going to, it's going to affect your ability to concentrate. It's going to affect your ability
00:29:45.960 to believe in yourself. It's going to affect your ability to think on a larger scale. And that's why
00:29:52.420 I feel like a lot of people who are very successful become reclusive because a lot of people just can't
00:29:58.140 fucking think the same way that they're thinking. Right. You know what I mean? I have very few people
00:30:03.200 that I spend my time with. I'm very picky about who that, who those people are. Right. Because
00:30:07.820 I don't want to put anything into my ears that isn't, that is going to affect me in a negative
00:30:13.040 way. Right. Okay. So once again, just to, just to play devil's advocate, you are a huge proponent
00:30:19.440 of individualism, having a strong personality, knowing who you are in the world and just doing
00:30:25.960 it regardless of what other people think. What if somebody says, Andy, I get it, but honestly,
00:30:31.140 I'm such a strong personality. I'm such an individual that I can hang out with all these
00:30:36.480 screw-ups because it's just kind of fun to go out drinking and they're not going to influence me.
00:30:41.960 Show me their pay stub.
00:30:44.320 Hmm.
00:30:46.640 Yeah, that's a good, I, yeah, I don't know. I, I would guess you're right about that.
00:30:50.280 Well, I, I could be right or wrong, but I, I believe I'm right.
00:30:53.600 Yeah.
00:30:53.820 People could say that shit all they want, but here's the reality. At the end of the day,
00:30:58.300 you still have a hundred units of energy and you can spend it positive or negative. You can spend
00:31:02.420 it constructive or you can let it fucking pass by. The reality is, is that if you don't use that
00:31:08.680 energy the right way, if you don't use that energy to build on, on top of positive energy,
00:31:16.320 you, it's going to be too, it's going to be hard.
00:31:18.640 Right.
00:31:18.880 It's too fucking hard.
00:31:19.840 Right.
00:31:20.620 Right.
00:31:20.820 It's just too hard.
00:31:21.440 Okay. Well, we've been spending time talking about haters and the people you shouldn't hang
00:31:25.360 out with and people you want to avoid in your peer group, but talk a little bit about the
00:31:30.200 kind of people that you want in your peer group. What are those kinds of people look
00:31:33.160 like? What's the, maybe what's the first thing that you would say you look for?
00:31:36.420 We're talking about entrepreneurial peer groups.
00:31:38.540 Right.
00:31:39.000 We're talking about, I'm not talking about, you know, anything other than that. So clearly
00:31:44.720 we're talking about people.
00:31:45.480 We're not talking about Bible study groups?
00:31:46.900 No, not today.
00:31:48.600 Okay. That's next episode. The thing is, is we're talking about entrepreneurial peer
00:31:52.640 groups. So if you're an entrepreneur, it's pretty much understood that you have a business
00:31:58.160 and you're trying to be successful financially.
00:32:01.160 Right.
00:32:01.380 Okay. So go find people who are also trying to be successful and financially successful,
00:32:10.580 you know, and run a business. You know, it's very simple. That's who you should be surrounding
00:32:15.100 yourself and spending most of your time with. And, and, and if you can, people that are
00:32:20.000 more successful than you is where you should be focusing, you know, and that's where books
00:32:24.360 become such a good resource. Cause I know people are going to say, you know, Oh, I don't know
00:32:28.600 anybody, you know, well, well, that's why they write fucking books. You know what I mean?
00:32:33.040 Right. So go read a book. Right. You know? Um, so by, by definition, I would assume that
00:32:38.280 most entrepreneurs are by definition hardworking. I mean, I've never, I've never heard of a lazy
00:32:44.000 entrepreneur, man. You know, it's all the basic stuff. It's, it, it, is this guy a good dude? Is
00:32:48.800 he, is he a good guy? Does he do the right thing? Yeah. Does he work hard? Does he work as hard as
00:32:52.760 you? Does he work harder than you? Um, is he a giver? Does he, does he, does he help you when you
00:32:58.980 need help? Is he willing to, you know, those, all the basic things, you know? Um, we, we talked
00:33:03.400 one time it was actually, it was getting ready for your book. We were putting together thoughts
00:33:07.260 for your book and you were, you were talking about the, how maybe in some ways above a lot
00:33:13.700 of other character qualities, you really value loyalty. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, you
00:33:19.120 know, your peer group, you want to surround yourself with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, man. I mean,
00:33:22.500 and, and people, people, a lot of people claim to be loyal that really aren't. Um, how would
00:33:28.340 you define loyalty? Might be, I, I think I'm being too academic, but come on. No, I, I feel
00:33:35.840 like I give you a good example. I, the best way is to tell a story. Um, when I was in college,
00:33:42.000 I had a girlfriend that I was in love with and you know, all that stuff that you do when
00:33:48.460 you're in college and, uh, I'm allergic to onions. Okay. I cannot eat onions. What happens?
00:33:55.220 I get sick. Like really bad? Like real sick. Like for like two days. Okay. But it's not
00:34:00.260 like fatal. I know some shellfish type of thing. No, it's not like that. But anyhow, I can't
00:34:06.440 eat onions. So when I go to order anywhere, I'm always like, Hey, you know, I want this.
00:34:11.620 There's not any, I'll ask, is there onions in it? No matter what it is, no matter if it
00:34:15.360 says it on the, on the menu or not. Cause a lot of things have onions or, or they're cooked
00:34:19.120 with onions that doesn't say it on the menu. So I always say I made a habit of it for,
00:34:23.020 for as long as I can remember. So I was in college. I was with this girl. We went to
00:34:28.680 the sandwich shop and I ordered the sandwich. It came with onions. And, and, uh, I looked
00:34:35.980 at the lady. I'm like, you know, I, I'm sorry. You know, I asked for no onions. She's
00:34:39.260 like, no, you didn't. And I'm like, no, I'm pretty sure I did. Yeah. First mistake is
00:34:44.380 arguing with the customer. Yeah. Well, I mean, regardless, I, I, I order everything that
00:34:48.660 I order with no onions. So I was like, no, I'm pretty sure I ordered it with no onions. And
00:34:52.120 my girlfriend at the time, she's like, you didn't say no onions. And I looked at her.
00:34:58.280 There's like 15 people in line. My blood just started fucking boiling. Right. And I thought
00:35:05.740 about that, but the thing is, is, you know, when you're loyal to somebody, you fucking go
00:35:14.100 ahead and say that they said no onions. You don't fucking call them out for saying that
00:35:18.220 they didn't say no onions. Right. When they said, when, if they said it or not. Right.
00:35:22.580 You see what I'm saying? Right. Pull somebody aside. You say, Hey, you know, I didn't think
00:35:26.300 you fucking said, uh, no onions that time, but you know, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:30.480 Absolutely. You and I both talked about how our wives would, would have told us, but they
00:35:35.180 would have told us later. Right. Yeah. Yeah. She didn't have your back. She was, she was
00:35:38.700 not concerned. That's the definition of loyal. It sounds stupid to people, but you know,
00:35:42.020 people always give you little signs about if they're loyal or not. Right. You know,
00:35:45.800 and, and, uh, it's basically coming down to having your back, no matter what the situation
00:35:49.700 calls for. Right. And, and sometimes you're going to make mistakes and that person should
00:35:53.440 still have your back and then pull you aside and say, Hey, you know, you fucked up there.
00:35:57.660 Right. Right. You know what I mean? Right. Right. Absolutely. And to me, that's loyalty.
00:36:01.920 You, you mentioned, I'm going to backtrack just for a second. You mentioned givers and, um,
00:36:07.640 I don't know, it's selfish on my part, but just flesh out what you mean by that a little bit
00:36:10.720 more just because that's, you want to surround yourself with people who are going to, who,
00:36:15.520 who, who are selfless, you know, people who are going to do things for you and help you
00:36:21.200 without an agenda. Yeah. Without an agenda, not just because you're paying them or because
00:36:26.400 whatever, you know, they're just good people who are, who, who love you and help you. You
00:36:30.900 know, if you, if you don't have people around you that are selfless and willing to contribute
00:36:35.900 and you have to contribute back to them, that's where people really mess up. Yeah. But
00:36:42.260 that's key. Yeah, it's totally, but, but you know, you're, it's going to be really hard, man.
00:36:48.220 It just takes a team, you know? And I don't know. I, I feel like there's, there's not one
00:36:54.800 or two qualities you can identify with a good person to hang around with. But if you're talking
00:36:59.100 about entrepreneurial people and peer group, you want to be around people who are going to
00:37:02.480 fucking support you, who are going to encourage you, who are going to, who are going to believe
00:37:05.740 in you, who are going to think big and, and they're going to want to have similar goals
00:37:10.760 that you have for themselves. Right. And, and dude, that's what, that's what cultivates,
00:37:15.200 you know, energy, man. It cultivates, it cultivates positivity. It cultivates big ideas. It cultivates
00:37:22.400 big action. You know, that's what cultivates success. And when you hang around people that think
00:37:26.940 small and have negative opinions about you and, and don't want you to be successful because
00:37:32.120 it reminds them of how unsuccessful they've been and it makes them uncomfortable. You
00:37:36.660 know, you never, you can't make it with that kind of attitude. You only have so much energy
00:37:41.820 in a day to put out. And if you spend that time with negativity on negative people, you're
00:37:47.960 never going to be able to spend the amount of energy it takes to be successful and you
00:37:53.000 won't be successful. Right. Because being successful takes a lot of fucking energy. You see what I'm
00:37:57.620 saying? Absolutely. Yeah. So you can't, you can't limit yourself because other people
00:38:06.320 don't believe in the same things you believe in. Right. You know, and you've got to think
00:38:12.300 about like other things too. Like you're sitting here thinking of these big giant goals and I want
00:38:17.480 to do this and I want to do this. And then you've got people in your ear telling you that you're
00:38:20.620 selfish or that you're greedy or that you're this or that. Or that you can't do it. Yeah. Or you can't
00:38:25.760 do it. But here's the thing. If you have people that are going to make you feel like a bad person
00:38:29.820 for doing, having goals like you, like you want or that you have, you're going to eventually start
00:38:35.980 to believe that, man, or you're at least going to think, man, am I a bad person for wanting to
00:38:40.380 do this? Am I materialistic? Yeah. Am I this? Am I that? No, there's nothing wrong with wanting
00:38:46.160 to be successful. Right. You know, we have, um, we have unlimited abilities and potential
00:38:55.720 as humans, but it's so you have to release yourself from the restraints of other people's
00:39:03.560 opinions and other people's limiting beliefs. Because no matter what you say, no matter how
00:39:08.700 strong you think you are, no matter how tough you think you are, no matter how driven you think
00:39:13.160 you are, if you have people around you putting in negative seeds in your mind, those seeds are
00:39:18.480 going to fucking sprout. Right. And it's going to make it hard for you to move forward. Right. I mean,
00:39:23.120 I can tell you right now, you know, for me, I realized that in, this is 2015. I realized that
00:39:29.540 in about 2010, you know, in 2010, I was, I wasn't making any money. I cut everybody negative out of my
00:39:36.920 life. I could in 2010, everybody. And, and, you know, girlfriend, it didn't matter. Anybody who told
00:39:44.320 me I couldn't do shit, I got, I got rid of them. Right. You know? Well, let's talk about that, Andy.
00:39:48.780 And I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to ask you to do some, something very difficult. I'm going
00:39:53.000 to ask you to put on your Dr. Phil hat. Um, because you know, all kidding aside, you are a strong
00:40:00.620 personality. Um, and not everybody out there, even if they're, you know, committed to their success,
00:40:06.240 they're committed to entrepreneurialism, they're committed to working hard, all the principles
00:40:09.740 that they, they should be committed to, they're committed to, but they just might be gentler,
00:40:14.400 maybe a little bit more timid souls. I want you to, to speak to those people and say, okay,
00:40:20.200 here's the person in your life that you need to cut out of your life. In some cases, it might be
00:40:24.680 a parent or a family member. Listen, it could be a parent. It could be a brother. It could be a
00:40:32.100 sister. It could be a spouse. Right. So, so I know, because we've talked about this a lot. I know
00:40:38.160 that you, you're not encouraging people to be pricks. You're, you're encouraging them to be firm
00:40:43.400 with people. So kind of, ultimately it comes down to this. It comes down to one thing. Do you,
00:40:51.180 what do you want? Right. Do you want to be successful? Do you want to build a business? Do
00:40:55.660 you want to do all these things and achieve these goals that you have for yourself? You know,
00:40:59.200 the fucking dreams that you have in your mind that you don't tell anybody about? Do you want
00:41:02.980 that? Or do you want to live somebody else's life? Right. Because other people are telling
00:41:07.180 you, you can't because other people are telling you, you shouldn't, or you're greedy or you're,
00:41:11.180 you're unreasonable. You have to make a choice. And the choice is, is either get rid of the people
00:41:18.420 who are putting those thoughts in your brain and, and be successful or give up on your hopes and
00:41:26.260 dreams and goals for yourself and go live the life that they think you should live.
00:41:30.080 Right. Okay. So somebody says that and says, Andy, I totally agree, but man, it's still going
00:41:33.940 to be hard. So how would you tell me to go about doing that? Look, man, I can't tell somebody how
00:41:40.620 to like break up with their girlfriend. No, actually that'd be kind of funny. Yeah. I mean,
00:41:45.960 you know, I'm, I'm a very direct person. Yeah. You know, how did you, how did you break up
00:41:51.140 with that girlfriend? Uh, I don't really remember. Yeah. I just said I was done. Yeah. Which I was
00:42:00.620 yeah. Good person. Great, great person. We just, you know, I think very highly of her. It's not
00:42:07.200 even a negative thing. It's I'm very happy for her as a person. Um, but not, it's just, it's just
00:42:14.200 dude, we didn't go together in that way. Yeah. What she wanted to do and what I want to do are two
00:42:17.760 different things. Right. And you know what? All the points she made from her point of view were
00:42:23.300 valid. Yeah. Was I selfish? Yeah. I spent all my time working. Did I want bigger things? Yeah.
00:42:28.120 Was I not happy with the life that we had? No, I wasn't. So all those points were fucking valid
00:42:32.720 and her points matter just as much as my points. So the point is, is go live the kind of life that
00:42:40.680 you want to live and I'm going to go live the kind of life I want to live. And that's what we did.
00:42:43.440 And, and there's no, there's no animosity and there's nothing wrong with that. Right. You know,
00:42:47.360 people, people put too much emotion into these kinds of decisions, you know, and I know somebody
00:42:53.380 is thinking, Oh my God, you're making, it is emotional, you know? Well, dude, look, what do
00:42:58.560 you want? Right. Right. Look, I, I, I think that the biggest takeaway people need to think about
00:43:07.320 here is this. You have to make a decision about what you want. Okay. It's not a pretty decision
00:43:14.980 all the time. It's not a fun thing to do. It's, it's not an easy thing to do, but you have to decide.
00:43:22.460 Do you want to build the life that you've always wanted? Or do you want to live somebody else's life?
00:43:28.200 Okay. Because you can't have both. And to, to build the life you wanted, you have to surround
00:43:35.940 yourself with people that are going to support you all the time. They're going to help you.
00:43:40.540 They're going to make your life easier. The life of an entrepreneur is a hard life. It's a lonely
00:43:44.380 life. And it's something that is not for everybody. And when I say lonely, the reason it's lonely is
00:43:49.420 because you have to make cuts on your team, man. Like we talked about earlier and the amount of people
00:43:56.540 who are going to believe in the level of success, if you're a big thinker might be a very limited
00:44:01.580 amount and that's okay. But if you spend time worrying about what everybody else thinks and
00:44:08.480 living your life to everybody else's standards, you're never going to make it. And that's,
00:44:11.720 that's the choice you have to make. So cutting, cutting out people that are negative, cutting out
00:44:16.580 people that are, that are close to you. Um, even if they're related or whatever you have to do,
00:44:21.520 I'm not telling you to go fucking put yourself in isolation, but I am telling you that if
00:44:26.480 you want it, you've got to surround yourself with positive people. And that's, that's the
00:44:31.780 bottom line. That's good stuff, man. Um, well, I think that's about it for today. Um, yeah,
00:44:38.280 if you want to, if you want to, we're always looking for questions. We're always looking
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00:44:53.620 you know, we're always looking for new ideas for things to talk about. If you're an entrepreneur,
00:44:57.520 you have a question, um, you want to answer, we'll get back to you. Uh, we might make it a
00:45:01.500 show. I don't know, but yeah, there's actually, uh, we have officially created a button called
00:45:06.120 ask Andy on the, uh, MFCEO.com. I don't even know what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's
00:45:11.520 why you got me. So, but so Hey, just hit the button and ask me. Yeah, that's right. It's this
00:45:16.620 great idea I had. I made it up myself. Yeah, exactly. So, all right. You want to take us
00:45:20.800 home? Yeah, guys. Um, thanks for listening. Hit us up, uh, the MFCEO.com. Um, if you're
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00:45:46.160 we'll, uh, we'll see you next time. Yep.
00:45:48.540 Bye.