Setting the Record Straight on Success, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO14
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Summary
In this episode of the MF CEO Project, we have a special guest, Big Jim. Big Jim is the original MFCE Dad, the sperm donor, and a former pastor. He joins us to talk about a variety of topics, including the end of the world, a blood moon, and much more.
Transcript
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Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the MF CEO Project. I'm Andy and I am the motherfucking
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CEO. I'm here with my co-host, Mr. Vaughn Kohler, the pastor. What's up, dude?
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Former pastor, but yeah, thanks. The pastor, Vaughn. Once a pastor, always a pastor. That's
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right. And my good friend, Ben Newman, speaker extraordinaire. What's up, dude? What's going
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on, Andy? How are you? Hey, man, I'm fired up, ready to go. Yeah, me too. We have a special
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guest in the podcast here today, the OG, the original MFCE dad. My dad, Big Jim, what's
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up? What's up, though? I'm the original sperm donor, I think. There's never been any.
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DNA stuff. Some days I think he is, and some days I think he's not. I'm not sure. Some
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days, maybe. We've talked about him a couple times on the podcast. I want to get him on
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here, and he's going to be chiming in with probably some stupid shit, probably some informative
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shit. Like father, like son, huh? So you'll see where I get it from. Anyhow, let's start
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with the question of the day. Vaughn. Yes. Former pastor. Yes. All right. Dude, is the
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world ending? Are we coming? Is the world coming to an end? Because I just saw this
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thing. We're having like four blood moons. Yeah. Okay. Friday the 13th is Halloween this
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year. The last time it was on Friday the 13th was 666 days. Wow. Or 666 years before that.
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Where'd you hear that? Dude, I read it. It's got to be true. It was online. Clearly. Yeah,
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clearly. All right. Then we have people fucking shooting each other on the fucking highway this
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morning, national news. We've got all this racial fucking bullshit going on, you know, between
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people who are supposed to get along and be normal humans. We have, you know.
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Caitlyn Jenner. I mean, yeah. We've got Caitlyn Jenner. We've just got all this crazy shit going
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on. I mean, what I need to know from a religious expert, which is why we have you here, is the
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world coming to an end? I have no idea, but I will tell you this, whether it is or not,
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it shouldn't have. I mean, you should live the way that you're supposed to live, whether it's
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coming to an end or not. You know what I'm saying? I guess. Yeah. Well, I mean, we have a book on the
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table here that says how to live with a huge penis. The world has got to be coming to an end.
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How does that tie into a blood moon? I don't know. You know what's interesting about that?
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But I'm just putting in all these truths, and I'm tying it together, and I think the
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world's coming to an end. So what I think we need to do is we need to have, like, the
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coolest podcast ever, and, like, just, like, while the world's ending, we can just report
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on it. Right. Well, to your point, though, I think people are too obsessed about that kind
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of stuff instead of just saying, every day, I could die, so how am I living? Rather than
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the end of the world, just saying, every day, I'm going to die someday, so how am I
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living? Yeah, there's no question. People lose sight of that. Yeah. Every day. I mean,
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every day. Every day, people wake up, they go through the motions, they go to work, they
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come home. They say, oh, you know what? What I really want to be, I'll start that
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tomorrow. You know, and then on, you know, the day they're ready to start, they get hit
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by a fucking bus on the way home from work. You know what I mean? Right. It just seems to
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always happen that way, and people need to start realizing that our time here is definitely
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not guaranteed, and it is limited, you know, and that's what we try to come with here. We
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try to get perspective on you guys. We try to bring information that's going to help
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you get to where you want to be, and yeah, we're going to curse. Yeah, we're going to
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say offensive things. It is called the motherfucking CEO for a reason, because I am really tired,
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tired, and a lot of us are tired, clearly, by the amount of downloads, thank you very
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much, that we are seeing, of the fluffy, butterfly, pixie dust, everybody fucking wins
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attitude that's been bred into our society for the last 20 years. So if that's your
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style, if you want to go hear about how things, you know, might be or should be and
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not how they are, this probably isn't the podcast for you. Right. So anyhow, that's the
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question of the day. Is the world ending? What do you think, Ben? I really would love
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to hear a Bible verse from Vaughn, because I've never really bought into any of this stuff.
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You know, the world is coming to, I mean, really, the world is coming to an end based
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on what? Dude, I just thought of a new segment we can have. We could have Vaughn
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rap Bible verses. Oh, shit. Yeah. Tyler is laughing. This would be awesome. All right. So
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every segment, every day. So Vaughn, you better be ready next time. I'll be ready. Vaughn's
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going to come in. He's going to rap a verse. All right. I'll be ready. Yeah. There's
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actually a rapper named Lecrae. Lecrae? Yeah. He's a Christian. He's a Christian. He's a
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Christian rapper. And he's so good that there are a lot of people who are not
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Christian that really like him. Wow. What does he rap about? He has like one of the
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top iTunes downloads. You know, I don't, I don't know the last time I, I can't tell you
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the last time I listened to him. Do you do your white boy boogie? I do the white man's
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overbite. No, but, uh, you know, we should have a, we, I don't know. We should
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every, see that Vaughn's coming out of his shell. He wants to rap. No, I was
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going to say every episode, new vibe to him over there. I think it may come out
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every, every episode we should have a segment of just deep thoughts with
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pastor Vaughn. What do you think? I think it should be, I agree. I'll, we, we
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will allow that as long as it's a rap format. All right. I'll, I'll plan that ahead
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of time. I think as much trouble as he gets for coming over to the dark side, I think
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we need to have some pastor thoughts. That's true. No, he still has it in him.
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That's true. Cause I've given, I've given my soul over to the life of podcasts and
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riches on the former pastor. And now he's podcaster, uh, slash riches, bitches.
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Dude, we get, we get, we get a fucking email sent to us that says, Vaughn, what's it
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like to turn your back on God and become a podcaster for the life of riches? I mean,
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dude, there's something fucking wrong with people. I haven't seen it. The world's
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definitely coming to you. You know, Andy keeps promising it, but I haven't seen it
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yet. So, and I know he's got this big tub of like, like you said, last episode, you
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got this big pool of gold bullion. Yeah. Like Scrooge. Yeah. Scrooge, Scrooge
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McDuck. Yeah, that's right. So, so anyway, all right guys. So like today what we're
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going to do is we're going to talk about one of the most commonly misunderstood
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words in the English language. We talked a lot about this privately. Um, I'm
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interested to hear what my dad has to say about it because I don't think we've
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ever talked about this before. We talked about a lot of things, but, um, we're
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going to talk about the true meaning of success. You know, I call the young guys
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coming up. You guys all know if you follow me, I call them the young bucks.
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All right. And the young bucks coming up, man, they're always looking at, at the
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material things, you know? And when I was young, that's what I looked at too. I
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looked at the cars. I looked at the house. I looked at the lifestyle and I'm like,
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man, you know, that's going to be awesome. And that's what I strived for. Okay. And,
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and, and you think, okay, once I get to that, I'll be successful. I'm holding up
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quote unquote, you know? Um, and today we're going to talk about the real meaning
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of success and what that means and why it's important for you to understand that
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now, as opposed for you to spend the next 20 years chasing something, get there and
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realize that it's not exactly what you want. Okay. So we're going to talk about the
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meaning of success and, and to start us off, um, I think you wanted me to, what, what
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do you, yeah, it was, it's funny that we were talking about spiritual things. Cause
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you kind of had this sort of Moses up on the Mount Sinai moment where you
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realized something about success. What was it like a year or two? Yeah, man. Uh,
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so I have this forever growing up and my dad knows this, like when we were little
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kids, um, he was real good about instilling in us, you know, Hey, if you work
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hard and you do this, you could have that, you know? And he would point to the
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things we'd see a cool car or we talk about shit and he'd be like, yeah, but you've
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got to work to get that. Right. And so I've always grown up in my business wanting to
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get to a certain point financially thinking like, Oh, that's where I need to be. Okay.
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And, um, so about a year and a half ago, um, I got pneumonia. All right. And I got sick
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and I missed over three weeks, three full weeks of work. And what that, when I had
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pneumonia, I couldn't leave the house. I was in the house every day, sitting on the
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couch, drinking fucking beers, hanging out, you know, watching Pacific Rim 47
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fucking times, which surprisingly enough, that movie is still fucking on all the
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time. It's been on for like two years. Like, do you guys have network? Is it? I
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got dish network. Oh, what do you guys have? AT&T. What do you have?
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DirecTV. Well, yeah, I have, I have DirecTV too, but I mean, that's whoever programs the
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movies on cable and dish and all that. You motherfuckers are lazy. Switch up the fucking
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movies. Okay. Because I've seen Pacific Rim 317 times and it's still good. All right.
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There's nothing cooler than big giant robots fighting each other. Right. All right. But
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the point is this, I sat on the couch. All right. We were doing great business at that
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time, which we're still, we're doing much better now. I was at a point where I was
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recently married. You know, I have the nice cars. I have the nice house. I make a
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great money. I make a better money than I ever had. And I'm sitting on the couch, not
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lifting a fucking finger. And I thought a lot about where I was. And, you know, you
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have a lot of time to think when you're, when you can't even leave the house, you
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know, it's, it's a, it's like being a prisoner of your own brain, especially when
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you're somebody who thinks about things. And I started thinking, I'm like, man, you
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know, like, this is like what everybody wants. You know, you can sit on the house,
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you could do whatever the fuck you want. You've got everything you need. And, you
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know, here I am making all this money and I'm not doing shit. This is, you know, this
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is what people want, except for I was miserable. I hated it. I was unfulfilled. I
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didn't feel good about it. I, I missed my people at work. I missed going to work. I
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miss being around the people I'm working with. And, um, it gave me some perspective
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that I think I needed because up until that point, it was just about really just
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chasing those goals that I had set earlier, you know? And, uh, what I came to
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realize for myself is that success isn't, and this is going to sound corny and it's
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going to sound like what fucking everybody says, but success isn't a
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destination. It's not a point in time that you reach. Okay. It's about
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fulfilling your ultimate potential. You know, I, and that's how I define it. I
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define success as fulfilling your potential. Okay. And what that means is
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that it's not a destination. Okay. And we all see that quote, success is not a
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destination. It's a journey, but there is truth to that. I never really thought about
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it as a real thing, but it's the point between where you are and where you can
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be, not where you want to be because where you think you want to be, you know,
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at the time I was 34 years old when that happened and I'm pretty much exactly where
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I wanted to be in all aspects. So what do you do the rest of your life? Do you just
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sit at home and do nothing, you know? And I think people misunderstand the point of
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what success is until they get to that point and then they look around. And so
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what we're trying to get to guys is this, we want to talk about this because we want
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you to realize, and you always hear these things like you especially hear this from
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unambitious people or people who aren't, you know, moving forward in their life. And
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they say shit like this, it's not success isn't about money. You know, success is not
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about material things. Success is not blah, blah, blah. And that's true. That's a hundred
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percent true. But there's a difference between understanding that you are on a path to fulfill
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your potential and using that as a fucking excuse to go sit in the corner and not do the
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fucking work. Totally two different things, right?
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Yeah. When you first told me that story, the thing that I found most compelling about it was
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you kept on saying, you are the measure of your own success. You, you, you. And I know
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you have, I, you and I have talked about this is that most people don't think about
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that. They, most people think of it in terms of comparison. Like how do I measure up to
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Andy or how do I measure up to Ben or how do I measure up to somebody else? And I know
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you've told me before that that's not only an unwise thing to do. It's, it's really being
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unfair to yourself. Well, yeah. Cause you don't really start at the same place as
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everybody else. You know, I've got this guy here who raised me and my brother to be
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competitive. He raised us to do the right thing. He raised us to, uh, always do the best that
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we can. And he would happen to be in business. Um, you know, what happening? I was in business
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by my own choice. I know, but, but, but I couldn't choose being born into somebody who
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owned their own business. I can remember pulling up to school one day when we were, uh, going
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to, um, grade school and it was like, you know, eight 30 and I'm like, I, and this is when
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I first realized that what he did for a living, I said, Hey, isn't your boss going to be going
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to be mad at you for like being late, you know, dropping us off. And he's like, well,
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no, cause I am the boss, you know? And I'm like, Oh, well, that's pretty fucking cool.
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But you know, tell, tell him your story a little bit about how you got, how you just
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and take your time, tell them how you got in business and what you did.
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It, the, the, the story starts with my dad and, and, uh, that's all I could say. He
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was in business. He was an electrical contractor. He had like 15 guys that worked for him. And
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literally when we were, we had, there was seven boys, uh, five in a row and they, we had 12
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kids. There was seven boys and five girls. So, but the first five boys were, were about
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one year apart. So we, we basically lived in like a, a dog zoo, if you want to say that,
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you know, throw the kids a bone. It was always fist fighting and punching and screaming. But
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my dad made us work always. He made us go out and earn money. He, he made us clean the trucks. He
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made us, uh, do all the things. This is when we're five years old, six years old, seven years old.
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And by the time I was 10, I could wire a house. By the time I was 15, I was a full electrician. I could
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do anything under the sun. And he, he would. How many houses you burned down? Oh, I don't know.
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That was before they had the battery powered drills and all the things now. And he, he would
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put us on a house and we had hand, hand tools, uh, the old tool, the drill that went like this,
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which you can't see on his podcast, but you did it by hand and he would put us in a house
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and he'd mark little yellow, red, green, and blue, uh, uh, marks on a two by fours.
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And we'd drill the holes and we would wire the whole house that way. It would be five little
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guys. And the owner was never there when we did that. I know that. Of course, free labor.
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Nowadays you go to jail for this shit. Yeah. But we learned responsibility. We learned how to work.
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We, we, we dug all the ditches. We climbed in the attics. We climbed in the holes with the snakes
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underneath the houses. And, uh, that's how we grew up. And, and he literally quite a bit
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different than, uh, sticking your kids in front of a Nintendo. No, we didn't have a Nintendo.
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You wonder why, you wonder why there's such a big giant gap in the, but one of the, one of the,
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one of the things, and there's so many rules and, uh, so many rules that, that he, I would say,
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I always said beat it in our head, but it was the same thing I did with Andrew and Sal beat it in
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her head. Everything's a lesson. I was, you know, you want to be the best. You do the best. You go
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twice as hard. You got superpower. You can do, you want to get beat by that guy. Why would you want to
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get beat by somebody else? You want to be better than him. And it's up to you. It's not up to somebody
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else. It's you. And you got it in your power. Not me, not me myself. It's you. It's you. It's you.
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It's you. And, and, and, uh, uh, we, we were always about athletics and I'm getting kind of
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off the story here, but it was athletically selling and we're both gifted and both of them,
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uh, in, in soccer. I mean, this is started in the company here was the, was the kill chant.
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Yeah. And, and, uh, I tell him, go out in the soccer field. I said, those, they're your enemy.
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You go out there and you want to kill them. This is like right over five years old. Okay. So
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you're like, he's like sensei from karate kid. Yeah. Right. The bad guy except for like,
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dude, it wasn't, you guys don't understand. And, and people don't understand. And when I tell this
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story, people fucking think that I'm either bullshitting or they think that I'm fucking
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crazy or they think that you're crazy. But like, we have this chant that we do here at our company
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called kill, kill, kill. Okay. So after every meeting, everybody puts their hands in and we
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fucking do the chant. All right. That chance started when I was five or six years old on
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the way to soccer games. All right. We'd be in the back of the fucking car going to the
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soccer game and, and most likely Sal and I would be fighting. And, and the deal was, is okay.
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If you scored a goal or if you hurt another kid, you get to get a pick on a toy. All right.
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There's always a payoff. Yeah. So, so we went to, uh, and I'm serious, dude, this is dead serious.
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So we would go to the games and he would go, all right, look, it's time to get serious.
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Quit fucking around back there. Blah, blah, blah. And he'd give us a speech and say, all
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right, now what are you going to do when you get there? And we'd be like, kill. And he'd
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be like, what are you going to do? And we'd be like, kill. And we'd be like, what are you
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going to do? And we'd be like, kill, kill, kill. We went out there and fucking kill these
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kids, dude. I mean, it would just be pure brutality. Like you're, you would go to jail today.
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So to your point, you, you, you benefited from a legacy of hard work.
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Oh, no question. It was their thought, their, their thought process that I instilled in
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them was the fact that if you do your best, it wasn't about killing somebody or hurting
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them. They didn't, they understood that. That wasn't, it wasn't it. The way to score that
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goal was over that guy, not around him. And if you ran right at him and, and this is the
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way most people are, unfortunately, they'll get the hell out of the way because they're scared.
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Right. They, they, they never were taught those rules. Right. You have it in your power.
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I don't, you know. Well, I was, I was teasing you and calling you sensei, but all kidding
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aside, I don't even know what it is. Well, he, you don't know the sensei from karate kid.
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Listen, you're, you guys are young guys. Well, but to your point though, you, you, it, to
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me, you're, you're teaching your kids something that most people don't teach their kids, which
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is the value of competition. The value of competition, the value of taking responsibility. If
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you've heard him say 30 times already, it's about you. It's about what you do. It's not
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about what the other guy does or what, you know, it's about taking responsibility for
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what you do in your life. Yeah. This was never about hurting somebody. And that, and that
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concept gets through with people that don't understand. No, they don't. Andrew Sale and I
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understand perfectly. And maybe it's about being aggressive. Go out and kill it. I mean,
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just go do your bet. Go out and absolutely kill it. It was about being aggressive. It
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was about going out, going in the fucking corner. And he would always say puck. Okay.
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But it was soccer. Cause our older brother is a, was a hockey player. And so he got in
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the habit of saying puck. So you'd be like, you go in the corner, you get aggressive, you
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go in the corner and you come out with the fucking puck. All right. I did curse back then.
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But it was, he still curses. He's still, before we put him on this podcast 10 minutes
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ago, he doesn't even know what a fuck a podcast is. We had to explain it to him. Okay. So,
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and then come to find out he's got a periscope. He said he's going live. I'm going live right
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now. Four followers. Right. So Ben, you, you've been waiting patiently to say something. I pay
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attention to the things that people say. And if everybody heard big Jim, he called them
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rules, not lessons. And there's a big difference between a rule and a lesson. A rule is this
00:20:29.200
is the way that it is. If you want to be successful, this is a rule of life as opposed to here's
00:20:34.300
a lesson. A lesson is I'm going to go to school. I don't like what the teacher says. Maybe I'm
00:20:38.500
going to listen. Maybe I'm not a rule here. He's looking at his boys in the eyes and saying,
00:20:43.080
you want to be successful in life, son? This is the rule. Follow it. You'll be successful
00:20:47.680
and look at the by-product. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Okay. So, so we'll talk more about
00:20:51.940
how you started your company here in a little bit. But the point we're making here is that
00:20:55.500
you can't, you cannot judge yourself against other people because you have no fucking idea
00:21:01.560
where that person came from. See, I, you guys look at me and you say, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:07.280
Look at all this shit. And yes, we have a great story. Yes. We started with very little finances
00:21:12.700
and we've turned them into a lot of finances. Yes. It's taken a long time. And yes, it took
00:21:17.980
a lot of fucking blood, sweat, and tears, but here's the reality. I also had a lot in
00:21:22.600
my brain to start with that I had from being born into, into something, you know, and you
00:21:29.420
can't help that. So, and which is the reason we do this, right? That's the reason we're even
00:21:33.520
doing this podcast. We don't get paid to do this. We do this because we want to bring the
00:21:38.880
old school hardcore lessons to you that I learned that have helped me and that Ben, you know,
00:21:45.360
you guys have learned as well growing up, you know, and that's the point of the whole
00:21:50.580
show. And that's really why I wanted him to come on. He didn't even know he was coming
00:21:53.640
on until an hour ago. I just texted him and said, Hey, come up here. He's like, why?
00:21:57.000
I'm like to be on the podcast. So then I find out he calls Sal, my brother, and he's like,
00:22:01.800
what? Do I got to like dress nice and stuff? Or like, what do I got to do? Like he didn't
00:22:05.220
even, I'm like, no, it's a podcast. He's like, I've got a periscope. Wait, wait, wait,
00:22:08.600
I can't make it up there. I'm redoing my bathroom. I'm filthy dirty. I got a carpenter
00:22:13.480
working. I'm working with him. And I just got all this stuff. So I got to abandon him
00:22:18.100
and tell him I got to leave. And now I got to go back and I probably have the plumbing
00:22:23.320
in the wrong spot and this in the wrong spot, but I can make that do. Yeah. But that's okay.
00:22:27.740
Do I have to like get you cleaned up? Come on, you know, no, man, nobody can see you.
00:22:32.240
It's just audio. You know, the rules, you know, my question, I'm not surprised what these
00:22:39.680
guys do at all. I see it exactly. And I, my question is what's taking you so long?
00:22:43.900
Yeah. No shit. And like, but that's the same thing.
00:22:46.020
I don't, I just, not at all. I know what's in his brain and what's in Sal's brain. I,
00:22:50.220
it, you call it beat it in her brain. Uh, the rules of the rules of being successful
00:22:55.640
and the word success, I can define it 10 different ways. Yeah. And you know, and you,
00:22:59.740
right. Success is defined, uh, within your own, uh, world for different things. You got
00:23:08.460
social success, you got personal success, not, not just financial success. There's so many ways
00:23:14.660
you could just say it. And, and, uh, uh, but that, that, that's a big word and it's defined
00:23:22.360
differently by different people. And, um, it just isn't financial. You got to be whole and complete.
00:23:29.740
Cold and complete is, is, is, is one way of saying it. And lack of fulfillment is, is that's
00:23:36.160
very, very important to, uh, figure that out. You got to figure it out on your own. I can't,
00:23:41.620
I can't teach you that. Well, no, I know, but you got to figure it out all on your own.
00:23:45.780
Listen, man, I've already figured it out. That's what the whole story was about.
00:23:48.980
I do like what you said about, you know, what's taking you so long, because Andy, I know one of the
00:23:52.620
things that you've always talked about too, in, in terms of understanding success and why it's such a bad
00:23:57.220
idea to, uh, to compare yourself to other people is not just about what advantages that they have,
00:24:03.720
but also you don't know how long they've been at it.
00:24:05.960
Dude, I just had this conversation with, uh, with Steve Mayer, agent Steven on Instagram.
00:24:10.440
He's a good buddy of mine. Just talk to him on the phone this morning. We're talking about this.
00:24:14.020
He's 40. I just turned 36. Okay. And he was talking about going to a benefit for Matt Damon's
00:24:21.180
charity where there's, uh, all these dudes that have six, seven, eight, nine cars that
00:24:27.840
are million dollar plus cars. And we're, cause we both are car fanatics. So we're talking cars
00:24:31.780
and I'm like, I'm like, dude, you know, the thing is, is like when I'm around those guys,
00:24:40.000
I always feel like such a fucking loser because like, I'm not there yet. And he, and he, and he's
00:24:44.240
like, he's like, dude, me too. And then we're like, we're both like, yeah, but they're fucking
00:24:49.520
60 and you're 39. I'm 36. And if you had everything you wanted now, what is there to
00:24:56.200
fucking work for? What is there to progress for? What is there to push for? And so, you
00:25:01.000
know, you always have to keep in line, you know, it's some people are very, very bad about
00:25:07.780
placing themselves in a real position of where they are. Um, and that's called self-awareness.
00:25:13.180
You know, you want to develop the skill of being able to place yourself in an honest
00:25:17.820
fashion of where you are. You know, a lot of people are either very arrogant about how
00:25:21.980
much progress they made and they're not humble, or a lot of people feel so bad about the progress
00:25:26.780
that they haven't made that they're never like able to appreciate what they have actually
00:25:31.440
done. Let me, let me, uh, say something. I wasn't criticizing your project, what progress,
00:25:37.700
what I was really saying is, I know what you meant. I know, I know you and I do, but I
00:25:43.160
for other people on the other side of this microphone, you know, who the hell they are.
00:25:48.840
I don't know who they are. There's somebody out there. That's, it's, it's not, I'm not
00:25:53.940
criticizing at all. There's a turtle, turtle, turtle, tortoise and a hare. No, the thing is
00:25:58.280
what you were saying is this, it's you guys like when I say like when people call me successful,
00:26:03.700
like I, you guys heard me say that I get really fucking annoyed by that. You know what I mean?
00:26:08.080
Because I personally feel like we should be so much further along than what we are. And,
00:26:14.020
and that's just the nature of somebody who is driven, who wants to progress and wants to succeed.
00:26:21.220
That's, that's a natural feeling. You know, the people who say, Oh dude, I fucking made it. Those
00:26:26.420
are the people that lose everything they have. You know, they're sitting on the mountain looking down
00:26:30.200
or their little anthill that they think is a mountain looking down saying, Oh, I'm the greatest.
00:26:34.720
And then guess what? We talked about this on a, on two podcasts ago. I'll be humble. You know,
00:26:39.400
they're not humble enough to realize that like, Hey, I've had a little bit of success, which is me.
00:26:43.520
I've had a little bit of success. There's people who are fucking thousand times more in every area
00:26:49.760
than I have ever progressed. So you have to be able to look at that. And like, that's, you know,
00:26:56.240
that's what I was trying to get out with that story about Steve. You know, Steve's a very successful
00:26:59.160
dude. You know, he, he just bought a $2 million fucking car, you know? Um, we're, we're, we're
00:27:06.620
both the same. We're both like, fuck dude. There's, we're like so far behind where we should
00:27:10.440
be. And that's a mentality. And I think that's what, I mean, you have the same mentality.
00:27:15.640
Well, your, your, your little story you told before about looking backwards, present in the
00:27:22.720
future. I mean, there's a, I'll give you a little bit different version. It's the same version,
00:27:27.740
but a little bit different words. Uh, we'll use the word happiness versus success. And those,
00:27:34.420
those are not the same words, but they're close. And it's defined that the journey,
00:27:40.680
the journey is the part, you didn't even know when you're on a journey all the time,
00:27:44.120
you're on a journey or we're on a journey right now, right? You're on a journey right now. And
00:27:47.720
when you, when you look back, your world is defined by successes you had and failures.
00:27:53.880
And if you have more successes and failures, you look back and you say, man, I was freaking
00:27:58.420
good, man. And you, and you get happy about that. Right. And if you stop and you stop there
00:28:05.920
and you just keep looking back, man, you're dead. Right. It's a great point. Yeah. I mean,
00:28:09.940
that's, that's, but I've seen so many people and I'm not going to name names. You and I
00:28:14.740
have seen people that have amassed fucking fortunes. And when I say you and I, I'm pointing
00:28:19.600
at my dad, they have amassed fortunes and fucking lost them because of that exact point.
00:28:25.300
Yeah. And then, you know, looking forward to the future, you, you got to define that
00:28:28.900
future over and over and over again. It's not, it's not. And what you think will make
00:28:33.120
you happy isn't always what it is, but you've got to have goals and, and you got to wake
00:28:37.520
up and say, man, I'm going to go buy that $2 million car. Right. That's, that's what
00:28:41.840
it is. But it's not just that guys. And that's, that's what we're trying to do.
00:28:45.300
No, no, no, it, it, it's, it's not, uh, it's, it's that complete picture, which maybe it took
00:28:52.900
me a long time to figure this out. It was 35 before I kind of got it. And you're at that
00:28:57.520
age where I got, man, I was in business, was making all kinds of money and I was doing
00:29:02.960
this and doing that. And I got to do everything in the world. You name me a place I've been, I've
00:29:06.880
been there. You name me something you've done, I'll top you. People nowadays think I'm full
00:29:10.860
of shit sometimes because they'll tell a story and I'll tell four of them. Do you know
00:29:15.240
what I mean? I've been here. He's been around the world, man. And, and, and, and, uh, that's
00:29:20.900
fine. I can brag about it. I don't even give a shit. I mean, you know, I'm still the same
00:29:25.120
guy I was. I'm not any different. I don't, my ego is I wake up happy every day. I look
00:29:32.300
around, I wait for somebody to fuck it up and I'm going to fuck them up. Kill, kill, kill.
00:29:38.000
No, but you don't, don't disturb me. I'm a rattlesnake, but I'm, I'm happy. You know
00:29:42.380
what I am? I wake up and you mean like, you mean like a fucking grizzly Adams next door
00:29:47.480
to your next door. My dad's arch enemy is grizzly Adams, his next door neighbor. That's
00:29:52.720
What's really impressive about you, big Jim though, is, and I've, I've heard this because
00:29:56.320
Andy has been accused of, Oh, he just rode the coattails of his, of his dad. And yeah,
00:30:01.420
right. And that's, what's really impressive to you is that in spite of all your success,
00:30:05.000
you made your son do it himself. I didn't make him do it. He did it on his own. I, I
00:30:10.540
encouraged him and we, we had a million conversations. I can remember doing shit. I can remember doing
00:30:15.880
shit. Remember when you made me and Rob and Chris build that fucking fence in the backyard,
00:30:20.040
dude, it was 150 fucking degrees outside. I swear it was the hottest. It's the hottest
00:30:26.540
I've ever remembered it. And we had to build this fence around his swimming pool. And that
00:30:32.020
doesn't sound like a lot of work, but dude, we had to dig the post holes. It was rock and
00:30:36.300
it was like fucking pure rock. And so dude, to dig one hole, you know, it sucks. Right?
00:30:40.560
Normally you guys, everybody here has probably dug a post hole. It's dude, those fucking things
00:30:45.040
suck. You know, I'm not talking about with like an auger. I'm talking about with the thing
00:30:48.700
you get at home Depot that you just throw in the ground. Right. All right, dude, 50 million
00:30:54.660
holes. And it's probably 200. No, dude, it took like, it seriously took like four weeks
00:31:01.140
to dig the fucking holes. Okay. But every day we had to go out there and dig the holes
00:31:05.340
and that, and, and it's just shit like that, you know, learning the value of what work is
00:31:10.020
that puts people at an advantage. And today now, you know, parents are afraid to make their
00:31:15.520
kids fucking get off the goddamn fucking video. Instead they make them, you know, they say,
00:31:20.940
Oh, Johnny, you know, I'm going to make you fold your laundry. That's not fucking work.
00:31:25.340
You know, make them fucking work. That's what's wrong with our fucking society right now. You
00:31:29.880
know, people think work is folding their t-shirts at maximum for 10 minute break off of doom or
00:31:35.880
whatever the fuck they're playing now. See, but this is what fired me up when Andy and I first
00:31:40.580
met and the opportunity to be challenged by you, to be inspired by you, to grow together,
00:31:45.300
to talk about doing tours around the world, to do all these things is because of that mindset
00:31:49.880
that came from your rules. And I will never forget the second time we're ever together.
00:31:54.920
We sat in your training room and we were doing stuff on the whiteboard. And I wish you guys
00:31:59.720
could have been there to see this. I would ask Andy questions. He'd talk about, no, it's the next
00:32:04.380
level. It's where we're going with first form. Then he would talk about what he wanted to do as a
00:32:08.360
speaker and, and the opportunity to inspire you and to go and allow you to realize your unrealized
00:32:14.760
potential. That is your success. It's saying it doesn't, the dollars don't matter. What matters
00:32:19.800
is I have more inside of me that I can give to this business. I have more inside of me that I can
00:32:25.800
give to other people and you're doing it and you're not even close to being done because all you want
00:32:30.840
to do every single day, correct me if I'm wrong, is wake up and tap into that unrealized potential
00:32:35.800
because today is the day that you have. You got none other than today and it's an opportunity to work
00:32:40.660
your ass off. And that mindset has been lost in the world today, dude. First of all, yeah, not by
00:32:46.980
everybody. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Too many, by too many, by too many. And that's the point of what
00:32:55.020
we're talking about here. That's the point of this. That's why it's called a project. That's why we call
00:33:00.740
it the MFCEO project. People are like, why do you call it the MFCEO project? Well, first of all, it's the
00:33:06.900
motherfucking CEO. All right. Because everybody in society is so fucking pussy now that they can't
00:33:13.720
handle a fuck. Well, fuck, fuck, fuck. That's what I'm going to say. All right. Second of all,
00:33:19.560
it's a project because that mentality in general for most fucking people has been lost. It's been lost
00:33:27.440
because when we go to school and we grow up, we're taught, we are taught by people
00:33:32.640
who are in situations that they have accepted in life. Okay. So the kids fucking get set in front
00:33:43.500
of doom. They get sent to school who, you know, and dude, I love teachers. Dude, my teachers had
00:33:49.600
tremendous influence on my life. That's why we do things for our high school. It's our biggest charity
00:33:53.880
that we give to you. All right. But they're not, for the most part, kids are not being taught
00:34:00.160
that, you know, Hey, kill, kill, kill, and go, go get it and be aggressive and don't worry about
00:34:07.080
what people say about you and face criticism. Instead, they're being taught, Hey, little Johnny,
00:34:13.080
it's okay. You know, that person just has, you know, they didn't take their fucking riddle in today,
00:34:17.600
you know, instead of being taught like, Hey, toughen the fuck up and go do it anyway.
00:34:22.880
You know, like we talk and that's why it's called a project because we're trying to bring a fucking
00:34:27.040
message that is just not being brought at this point in time. So I, you know, I find that,
00:34:33.780
that highly successful people, the ones that I've met, be it in sports or in boardrooms around the
00:34:38.160
world, it's one of two things. They either have these rules that they've learned growing up or they've
00:34:42.780
faced adversity in their life. Right. You know, my parents were divorced at six months old. I'm
00:34:47.180
seven years old, watching my mother come to the dinner table with an IV stand every single day.
00:34:52.660
My mother's dying in front of my eyes as a seven year old boy, 24 hour nursing care in our home.
00:34:58.420
And my mother is coming to the dinner table to ask me how my day was at school. And I don't talk about
00:35:03.060
this much, but after my mother passed away, my father moved back in, had challenges of his own
00:35:08.140
that resulted in him being passed out on the couch every single night when I got home from school.
00:35:12.560
And I thought daddy was tired. My dad was not tired. My dad had issues that he stared straight
00:35:18.340
in the face. So my whole life, it's been adversity. It's been challenged. It's been getting knocked
00:35:22.440
down. But you know what? I had people that surrounded me mentors and coaches and people
00:35:26.440
who loved on me to help me get up off the mat of life. And just because the world has told you,
00:35:31.160
maybe it isn't your time. You can choose to take a positive path. There are people who are going to
00:35:35.800
give you those rules, those guidelines, those coaches. And what frustrates me is when people say,
00:35:40.560
oh, somebody didn't take their riddle and they didn't do this. But you know what? It's their
00:35:44.200
choice. It's your choice to not respond positively. And there's perspective. And I've been through
00:35:49.660
enough where anytime something tries to shake me, I say, you better come harder because my mother came
00:35:54.620
to the dinner table with an IV stand. So you better come with some serious heat because you will not
00:35:58.560
break me. Right. And people need to have that mindset that you can persevere. You know, I mean,
00:36:04.720
we're talking, we could talk about 50 different points here, but I think to round out, you know,
00:36:09.400
our first point in our first segment here is, is that guys, it's you. Okay. You are the measure
00:36:16.180
of your own success. It doesn't fucking matter how much money you've made, how many businesses
00:36:20.500
you've started, how famous and influential you become. It's if you're not living up to the potential
00:36:25.820
you have, and you have still more in the tank to give and progress, you're going to be a fucking
00:36:31.400
failure. You're going to die with a bunch of regret. You're going to say, Hey, I could have done
00:36:35.300
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Had I just given a little bit more. All right. That's the first
00:36:40.140
point of what we're talking about when we talk about success. Um, we've, we've got a lot more
00:36:44.760
to come. I'm going to toss it to Vaughn here real quick and let him do the extremely important,
00:36:49.140
um, technical stuff that Vaughn does. So, um, and, and, you know, go ahead and give that
00:36:55.340
information now before we move on to the next, next point. Sure. I'm going to make it quick because
00:36:58.580
we always have a lot of fire in our episodes, but you guys are on fuego right now. I think it's
00:37:04.320
because we care that much. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm not kidding. This is, this is amazing,
00:37:08.820
but, uh, guys, if you want the show notes and the links galore to this episode, go to the MFCEO.com
00:37:15.380
forward slash P 14. Uh, we've got a lot of things that we're going to be getting up on the website.
00:37:20.560
We've got so much going on. It's, uh, it's a little overwhelming at times, but it's a great
00:37:25.040
privilege. And so keep, keep your eyes on the website. Uh, there'll be some products coming
00:37:28.920
out. We're just about to start production for a new course that, uh, Andy's going to do on, uh,
00:37:34.540
on risk-taking. So get ready for that in a couple months. And of course, uh, in the near future,
00:37:41.100
we've got the books coming down the pike at some, uh, sometime soon, but we're, we're working hard.
00:37:45.640
But, uh, in addition to that, we're just going to go around and real quick, uh, Ben, you're at
00:37:49.640
Continued Fight. At Continued Fight is Periscope, Instagram, Twitter, and then Ben Newman for
00:37:55.480
everything else. Okay. Uh, Andy Frisella on Instagram, um, and Periscope. Uh, I'm spending
00:38:02.560
a lot of time on Periscope guys. If you haven't, um, downloaded the app, you need to get on.
00:38:08.340
I think by this time, uh, when this show airs, I should be somewhere in the, in the top 40
00:38:13.840
on Periscope in the world. So, um, guys, I'm spending my majority of my time there. Come to
00:38:19.200
Periscope, check it out. It's an awesome app. It's very interactive. We get to speak one-on-one
00:38:23.880
very, very cool app. Uh, join the horses. And if you don't know what that means, hop on, get
00:38:29.340
me at Andy Frisella, join the horses. Giddy up motherfucker. And then we have a, we have my
00:38:35.520
Snapchat, which is MFCO dash one. Um, and I'm, you know, I, that's my behind the scenes stuff.
00:38:41.280
That's like, you know, I put a lot of car picks and stuff like that on there. Yeah. So I'm at
00:38:46.000
Vaughn Kohler, V-A-U-G-H-N-K-O-H-L-E-R. That's Instagram, Twitter, and, uh, MF, V-K-O dash
00:38:53.660
MFCEO on Snapchat. And I'm going to start Periscope next week, probably with a, uh, a
00:38:59.200
feedback for the MFCEO fans. Anybody who wants to share their feedback, I'll be listening
00:39:03.540
and that'll be next week. Well, next week, meaning the same week that this podcast comes
00:39:07.980
out. You finished your script is what you're saying. No, I didn't. I did. You know what I really
00:39:12.580
want to do. I, if I can get Andy to, to give me permission to this, cause this would be
00:39:16.220
a draw for people. I want to announce the, uh, the winners of the review contest on my
00:39:20.660
Periscope. That'd be cool. Can I do that? For sure. All right. Great. Great. Let me know.
00:39:23.940
Let me know when you're going to do it. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that. So that'll be next
00:39:26.740
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beard anyway. So it's going to mix all in, but here's the deal. If you have a beard, they
00:40:29.900
are the fucking shit dollar beer club, follow them on Instagram, uh, and, and get on their
00:40:34.500
products. If you don't have a beard, you are a gigantic vagina.
00:40:37.740
And grow a fucking beard. All right. So that's my pitch. I must be one, but I can grow a neck
00:40:44.020
beard. I think we talked about that. Yeah. Everybody in here has got at least a partial
00:40:48.220
beard, at least a baby man. I was able to oil up my scruff. I know Ben was busting out
00:40:53.800
the beard oil right before the show. What do you think? That's fantastic. Yeah. It makes
00:40:57.200
your face feel good, man. It feels real good. They should get the yak woman to be a sponsor.
00:41:01.400
I mean, you know, like a, like a spokesmodel guys, I'm serious. Follow them on Instagram.
00:41:05.780
Like for, for no other reason, even if you don't have a beard, yes, follow them on Instagram
00:41:10.260
and watch how they market their product. It's amazing. These guys get it. They're smart.
00:41:14.940
They've got great products. I mean, and I won't, I will not endorse a product that I do not like
00:41:20.180
or use. I just won't do it. A lot of guys will do that. I won't do it. Um, but besides the products,
00:41:25.360
they're worth watching from like a, uh, a case study on entrepreneurs and how to succeed
00:41:30.220
and build a company in today's, uh, social media world. You know, the guys are really
00:41:34.760
cool. Dollar beer club. Check them out. So, uh, anyway, back at it. Yeah. I'm, uh, I'm looking
00:41:42.380
at our outline and it says, say something to transition back into success talk. So I guess
00:41:47.880
that qualifies. Big Jim had, uh, something he wanted to say. You did. No, I got, you didn't
00:41:54.140
ask me about where, where, where I'm from. I'm, I'm usually at home. Oh, you can't get
00:42:01.660
me there. But you're on Periscope now. Yeah. I'm on Periscope now. I got four followers.
00:42:06.380
So I'm, I'm socially media inept. So are you MFDAD? That's what he should be. Yeah.
00:42:12.620
Probably ADD. I'm in love with Tyler here. Like he, we, we have some interesting conversations
00:42:19.860
because, um, what year did you get out of business? It was, uh, 2000 around 2000. Okay. So
00:42:27.320
the internet, like he basically exited his business. Um, he sold his business to his brother
00:42:32.100
around 2000, which was, we started our business in 99. All right. And, and so that timeframe
00:42:38.340
was a transition period and how business was done, you know, like technology for back then
00:42:44.420
was like fax machine. Right. And like everything was mail and it was paper and now it's no
00:42:49.660
paper. Now everything's automated. I can't, I open my laptop maybe once a week just to clear
00:42:54.980
the emails. I do everything off my phone. We have texts, Instagram, Facebook, all this
00:43:00.480
shit. And, and so him and I, you know, we, we've, you know, get together and have beers
00:43:05.740
and we have interesting conversations because it's so different in how we communicate, but
00:43:10.620
the principles are still the same. Well, really social media and, and the social media, you
00:43:16.840
know, he, Andrew, I don't say he says it this way, but he says, I don't freaking understand.
00:43:22.160
I don't understand. I don't, I understand perfectly, but the basics of business haven't
00:43:27.400
changed at all. It's still, okay. You advertise on Facebook. We used to advertise on WIL or
00:43:32.500
KMOX or whatever. You put so many dollars down, you got so many dollars back and only
00:43:37.900
yours is at a faster pace, faster. It's, it's, it's, yeah, it's constant. It's instant. I'm
00:43:42.980
not the concept. It hasn't changed. It's just a hundred thousand times faster.
00:43:47.160
Tell them how you find out about Facebook. No, I don't want to know. I don't have a
00:43:54.140
Facebook account. So I got to tell the story. You got to tell the story now. It's innocent
00:44:00.200
story. Okay. So this is how my dad finds out about Facebook. All right. So we, the reality
00:44:06.380
of it, this is how my dad finds out about Facebook. We go to Nashville, my bachelor party.
00:44:12.640
All right. As a group, as a group. And we, we go, it's, it's guys and girls. It was a
00:44:18.480
joint bachelor party. We went, there was like 50 people that went, I didn't do anything.
00:44:22.600
So, so we go out, you know, for four, three or four days, we go out every night, drink
00:44:28.280
beer, hang out party. It was awesome. Everybody had a good time. Well, Emily has like a shit
00:44:33.740
load of really good looking friends. Right. And they're all with us. And my dad's there
00:44:38.300
and we're all out having a good time innocently. Uh, you know, we're all on dance floor watching
00:44:43.640
the bands. If you haven't been to Nashville and gone on Broadway is awesome. Um, so we're
00:44:48.820
watching the bands and stuff and, and it, you know, everybody's kind of around each other.
00:44:52.720
Well, uh, these, some of these photos from the, the trip get posted, you know, we're all
00:44:58.980
out on the dance floor. Well, he's standing next to like the hottest girl in the group.
00:45:03.580
And it like, it just, the picture just looks like he's like dancing with her, but really
00:45:08.520
it's just like him hanging out with her. And so I get this text when we get back and he's
00:45:13.420
like, he's like, Hey, um, so he goes, what's this fucking Facebook thing? And I'm like, I'm
00:45:20.760
like, what, what, why? I can't really explain it via text. Well, somehow, uh, a photo got
00:45:29.100
posted of me and, uh, you need to make sure it gets off the internet. I'm like, I'm like
00:45:36.080
dad, I can't remove the photo from the internet. And so bullshit. He got it. It was off in about
00:45:42.540
10 minutes. So, so anyway, so come to find out, you know, I think he was getting kicked
00:45:47.720
out of his own house because somebody of some friend of a friend of a friend saw a picture
00:45:52.860
of him and reported it back home to him and his girlfriend he's been with for, I don't
00:45:57.540
know, 15 years, you know? Well, and so I, you know, we go over to his house and it's
00:46:01.640
his house and all his shit's in the fucking bags. It wasn't that bad. Yeah. Right. That
00:46:07.980
person's still around here. And, and, uh, Wendy, my girlfriend, well, that's why
00:46:12.540
they're friends now. They finally, they finally talked last Sunday. She was over
00:46:16.960
Sal's house and they talked, but the point is, is that that's funny. That's how much
00:46:21.160
he didn't know about social media. No, you know, he didn't know the rules on social
00:46:24.960
media. No, I know the rules. Yeah. I wasn't married while I was in business and
00:46:28.540
I know the rules, man. You get caught doing stuff. You got a regular girlfriend, you get
00:46:32.900
killed. Yeah. But here's the thing. You, that's the point about social media. That's
00:46:37.380
a good point. And although we're talking about business, it's a hundred percent
00:46:41.500
transparency. And if you go out and pretend to be something you're not nowadays, you're
00:46:46.040
going to get fucking caught when, whether that be with a girl or another guy, or whether
00:46:50.520
that be in your business or half truce of business, you can't, there's no
00:46:54.620
place for somebody to tell fables about anything anymore because the internet will make you
00:46:59.920
an honest man. And, uh, I just think that was, that's, that's anyway, the moral of the
00:47:04.660
story and that's our good transition. Um, I wouldn't finish. So, but go ahead. Hey,
00:47:09.740
look, we can talk about this all the time, but we got to stay on course here. Move on.
00:47:13.340
Yeah. So guys, we're talking about what the definition of success is. And there's a couple
00:47:18.660
other things, you know, you guys have to understand that you need to look at success in terms of
00:47:23.700
present, not past or future. I think people think that once they get rich or famous or
00:47:28.600
build a business or whatever story they've told themselves about what success is, that
00:47:33.940
they're successful. And that's not the truth. It's they were successful. You, if you're sitting
00:47:39.240
right now in a position that you think, Oh, I'm successful. No, you were successful. You
00:47:44.460
have to understand that time is always moving. Okay. It's a noun. It only has present form.
00:47:49.540
Success is a noun. It only has present tense. It doesn't have future tense. It doesn't have past
00:47:54.960
tense. Okay. Yeah. I think the thing that makes that really encouraging is that you, you could be
00:48:03.300
successful right now. Like today, if today you work to your full potential or not successful or not
00:48:08.320
successful, right. So it's, it's, it's based on constant activity. You can never rest on your
00:48:13.300
laurels. You can never like go into passive mode. You have to constantly be working on it, which
00:48:18.660
is, is both an accountability, but it's also an encouragement. Because like I said, you could
00:48:22.800
have, you know, the last year of your life, you could be living a half, half-assed life. But if,
00:48:27.680
if on Monday you decide, okay, I'm going to kill it, you're successful. Right. And, and it's a process,
00:48:34.340
you know, it's not a one-time accomplishment. It's just ongoing. It never stops. It's not static. It's
00:48:39.920
not, it's not something that you could just point to as a, as a blip, you know, it's dynamic,
00:48:45.120
it's fluid. It's always moving. It's always in forward motion. And the moment you stop and focus
00:48:50.340
backwards and not stop and stop moving to, to fulfill the potential or giving what you have in
00:48:55.320
the tank, you're not successful anymore. And I think people, you know, you may have the prizes
00:49:00.800
around you that the past work or the past success that you've developed, you know, have provided you,
00:49:08.360
but that doesn't mean you're successful. So when I'm sitting on the couch watching, you know,
00:49:13.420
Pacific Rim, you know, drinking my, my beer, hanging out, waiting for me to, you know,
00:49:19.860
get my next paycheck, I'm not successful. I'm enjoying some of the fruits of my past success
00:49:26.180
at that time. And if you sit in that zone long enough, guess what happens to those fruits?
00:49:31.600
They get eaten up and they're not there and you don't get to enjoy them. And a lot of people look
00:49:36.240
at this success and this is why this is dangerous guys. A lot of people look at success as a
00:49:40.960
destination endpoint place. I want to own two Lamborghinis. I want to have $2 million cash.
00:49:47.240
I want to have a big house. I want to have a wife with big boobies and I want to, you know,
00:49:51.840
have an 80 inch TV screen and I'm successful. Okay. And that's what people think. And then when they
00:49:57.920
get there, they don't go through the things that they don't go through the mental process that we're
00:50:01.980
talking about here on this podcast, they, they stop and they say, dude, I made it. I'm here and
00:50:09.780
that's it. And then what happens? What happens? They lose it. Okay. It dwindles down. They stop
00:50:16.580
progressing. The people chasing you, catch you and beat you. And then you're starting over from
00:50:21.420
scratch, you know, and, and it, and it's a lot harder to start the ball rolling than it is to keep
00:50:27.740
rolling. That's the reality. So you have to understand that it's not a place that you just
00:50:33.320
get to. It's, it's a, it's a process. It's a point of reference along your journey that you can
00:50:40.360
reference at certain times, but you should always be looking to how you can improve, how you can give
00:50:45.500
more, how you can make people better. And if you do that, you'll always be successful. It'll always
00:50:51.100
come back to you. And, and people don't think of it like that. It's so annoying to me personally,
00:50:56.260
when people talk about it, like when they say things like this person is successful or this
00:51:01.520
person has made it, what the fuck does made it mean? What does made it mean? Ben, what the fuck
00:51:07.260
does it mean? I've never believed in that concept because you always got to be looking for the next
00:51:11.380
opportunity. It's that growth mindset that we talked about. I mean, the, the moment that people
00:51:16.580
say that they made it, they end up going backwards, which is the, which is the point that you're making.
00:51:20.740
You can only go forward and backwards. You can't stay at the same spot. That's what people don't
00:51:24.680
understand. And when they say you made it, I hate that term so much because I know that if someone
00:51:29.740
truly believes they made it, that it's only a matter of time before the world just shits on
00:51:33.920
it. It's just the way I've seen, how many times you've seen that in your life? You're 70 years old.
00:51:39.180
Many, many times. And I mean, it's okay to take a little vacation.
00:51:42.560
No question. I mean, I don't mean like go to Mexico. I'm saying take off. You, you wear yourself
00:51:48.080
down, you wear yourself out. You might not work as hard as you, as you could for a week or two or a
00:51:52.820
month. If you, if you take the vacation too long, the troops will get restless. So the shit happens,
00:51:59.460
boy, it'll happen everywhere. And then it happens fast. Then sweeping it up, sweeping up the mess is
00:52:04.080
like, Oh yeah. You know, I've been through it. I've been through it too, man. You, you, you, you get,
00:52:10.200
you have a little insurrection with the employees, uh, the women, you know, you don't show up for work.
00:52:16.820
They get mad at you. And no, for real. I mean, it's, and then it takes a long time to fix it.
00:52:22.660
Well, no, I mean, how many times you hear about it, guys, we see it all the time in the news,
00:52:25.880
right? These guys are super wealthy, super successful. A fucking year later, their life
00:52:31.700
is in shambles because just like success is a matter of momentum and moving forward. You create
00:52:38.180
that positive momentum. If you, like you said, the vacation, if you take that fucking vacation too long,
00:52:43.640
Oh man, dude, the momentum changes real quick. And that momentum of going down the wrong side of
00:52:51.160
the mountain, you know, going backwards that goes just as fast as it did, you know, when it was
00:52:57.020
going well, I told Andrew some time ago, and I've told him this a couple of times, some of the things
00:53:02.760
I told him there was, there was one was it's a little, it's a little white lie. Cause once you get
00:53:06.720
on a merry-go-round, you can't get off that son of a bitch, man. And if you do, that's that vacation.
00:53:12.480
If you get off that vacation too long, you know, things will come, you know, it'll be, it'll change.
00:53:18.140
But, but, uh, what, when you're, when you're on a merry-go-round and it's rolling that roller
00:53:22.800
coaster, you just need to figure out how, I don't want to use the word enjoy, but how to make it,
00:53:28.700
uh, not to get to stress. Cause there is stress involved and it's, there is worry. And, and, uh,
00:53:35.440
well, one thing you, I think you realize, like I realized in my little story, I told him I have
00:53:39.380
pneumonia. One thing I realized that was really helpful for me was that I realized like how
00:53:45.820
important the people that I'm surrounded by in my day-to-day life were, I was like lonely,
00:53:52.680
you know, like I, I, I was like, dude, I didn't get to see Jason. I didn't get to see
00:53:58.180
Sal. I didn't see Chris, you know, I didn't care. I didn't see Tyler, you know, but, but,
00:54:04.460
uh, but the point was, is like, you know, I see these guys every day and until you're
00:54:08.580
away from them for a while, you, you forget how important they are and how, how good of
00:54:14.780
friends you are with them on a personal level, because they are your life as an entrepreneur,
00:54:19.280
the people that you're surrounded with. And, you know, that was one thing I took away that
00:54:24.520
really helped put things in perspective. Um, and I'm kind of embarrassed to say like,
00:54:30.480
that's when I, it took me that long to figure it out. But up until that point, you know,
00:54:34.460
it was kind of like, okay, we built this engine. The purpose of the engine is to make money,
00:54:38.080
right? The way we make money is by creating value. I knew all of those things, but what
00:54:42.140
I didn't appreciate was the personal part of success of the friendships that are made.
00:54:48.520
And the, I mean, you've told me this when you sold your company, that's what you miss.
00:54:51.500
We've talked about this a hundred times. When I sold a company, it was, it wasn't about
00:54:54.760
him missing money or the income or anything. It wasn't money. It wasn't, I was, I had 24
00:55:00.560
outside salesmen and 200 employees and, and I went to every football game, baseball game,
00:55:05.500
every freaking, you, you name any restaurant, you know, been there a hundred times or whatever
00:55:10.860
and name any amount of money you spent. Okay. We spent it. It's not, it wasn't about that,
00:55:15.280
but it was when I sold a company is I didn't have a purpose anymore. Right. I wasn't, I wasn't,
00:55:22.100
you know, nobody called, nobody cared because they're on the business. They got their own stuff
00:55:28.280
to take care of. Right. I didn't make them money. I didn't do anything for them or with them. And
00:55:32.040
it was different. It was, took me three years. It was depression really. Yeah. I, I, I get people
00:55:38.120
consult me all the time about, they want to sell their business. They want to do this. They want to do
00:55:42.200
that. And I, I always say, be very, very, very careful about what you really want. I mean,
00:55:47.700
why don't you fade off a little bit at a time, which I'm not saying I would do that. I'm saying
00:55:53.800
that you have to think about it. Well, yeah, but, but you kind of learned that a more difficult way
00:55:58.500
because you guys don't really know the story, but what had happened was he was in a pretty bad car
00:56:03.060
accident and they were in a situation, a stressful situation at work. And he kind of, you kind of made
00:56:08.940
a decision to sell the company. I knee jerked. Yeah. And a knee jerk reaction. And so he didn't
00:56:13.160
think about these things. So when he speaks about what he misses, he's speaking from experience,
00:56:18.340
you know, and, and, and I've been fortunate enough to hear that, but you know, until I went
00:56:22.920
through that myself, um, uh, in a little bitty way, you know, I realized, okay, fuck dude,
00:56:29.140
this is way more about just this being a business. This is, this is a lifestyle. And I mean, it,
00:56:34.720
it, it, in my business and, and I, it's in a business. It's not that it's that culture
00:56:41.240
thing I talk about and, and I just talked about it. It's you, you want to create something
00:56:47.420
that you're proud of that would, and we'll use the word success again, happiness. Every
00:56:51.320
one of your employees should be the best educated. It's a competitive spirit. You want to be the
00:56:55.360
best educated, the best trained. You, you want them to be the best and to be the best. And
00:57:00.180
if you do that, they, they are, they're right with you. They're the Marine going over the
00:57:04.680
wall. They're the football team, the line, the lineman or whatever. They're with you a
00:57:09.180
hundred percent. Yeah. There's all that camaraderie that's built and you build it and it's easy
00:57:13.780
to lose that real quick. Uh, it's, it's, uh, but, but people don't think about those things
00:57:19.720
when they think about like, Oh, when they think about like people that are not in that situation,
00:57:24.340
you know what they think about? I can sell my company and get $300 million and I could, what
00:57:28.440
the fuck are you going to do with $300 million? You're going to sit around and do what?
00:57:33.400
I'm exaggerating, but once you have a nice car, say two nice cars. Okay. And, and this
00:57:38.800
is no reflection on anything here. I just, it's a, it's a way of saying something, not
00:57:42.380
a, you got a nice house, you got a nice condo in Florida, you got a nice this. I mean, that
00:57:48.300
sounds like a lot of stuff, but, but really get past nice house, nice car, nice wife, and
00:57:56.000
then you get nice kids and, and you have maybe some more grandkids too, you know, but, but,
00:58:03.660
uh, uh, no, you enjoy those simple things of life. Getting up, I wake up happy every day.
00:58:09.480
I said this before, I wake up happy every day. And that little joke about you make my day.
00:58:14.280
It's true. And when I was in business, it was, there'd always be some son of a bitch trying
00:58:18.840
to unmake my day, you know, and, and, uh, but enjoying seeing Andrew, seeing Sal, seeing
00:58:25.940
Tyler right here, man. I like seeing that guy come over here.
00:58:28.400
That's because you wear the same color shorts he wears. You guys must have bought your shorts
00:58:32.900
There are a lot of girls on Snapchat that like seeing Tyler too.
00:58:35.580
Tyler's trying to hold my hand over here. Keep your hand off my knee.
00:58:39.280
He's sitting right next to me because you can't see this to both of your guys's point. I mean,
00:58:44.520
this is something you've said, uh, just countless, countless times. And, and you'll continue to say
00:58:49.200
because it's true that your success is largely determined by the people that you surround
00:58:53.920
yourself with. And then to your point, big John, excuse me, big Jim, big John, big Jim.
00:59:01.480
To your, to, to your point, big Jim. Uh, and that is that success is more than material. It's,
00:59:10.200
it's people. And, and that does sound cheesy and that does sound like rainbows and unicorns,
00:59:14.080
but it is, it's more than just the material. Okay. And it'll, you'll get it more and more as
00:59:19.640
he gets older because it gets more and more important. You're responsible for every one of
00:59:23.400
those people. And, and I didn't worry about this. I learned, I don't, I don't have any monkeys on my
00:59:29.340
back. I walked out of my place every day cause I didn't do anything that was bad. I mean, you know,
00:59:36.240
I made good decisions, good for me sometimes, but good decisions and good for everybody. And you
00:59:43.000
wait them, you, you put them on a scale and you wait them. What, what, what's good for the company?
00:59:47.960
But I was responsible and it took me almost to 40 years old to figure this out. I'm responsible
00:59:52.940
for what car they drive, what house they drive, every one of my employees, what school or kid
00:59:59.240
goes to, there's a social responsibility that comes along with running a company. And, and
01:00:04.260
when you see like the newscast, you know, all these rich guys, we should tax them to death.
01:00:08.620
We should do this. We should do that. Most of those big businesses that become successful,
01:00:12.920
Microsoft and Apple, those people had that same culture. They, they, they treated those
01:00:17.440
people. Perfect. You know, Walmart, uh, whatever those, those were born on those that do the
01:00:24.120
people criticize people like that camaraderie. They've never fucking done it. Yeah. Period.
01:00:29.140
Okay. You're talking about some asshole who's sitting up on a fucking TV stage talking about
01:00:34.660
how so-and-so and they look at the rich picture. It was rich motherfucker, blah, blah, blah. They
01:00:41.340
don't think about the donations given. They don't think about the jobs created. They don't think
01:00:45.820
about the income created for these families or the food on the table. All they talk about
01:00:51.240
is, Oh, look at that guy and his fucking Rolls Royce. And dude, it's always for someone who's
01:00:55.420
never fucking done it. Period. Guys, this is a great conversation, very far ranging and
01:00:59.980
a lot of great stories. Let's, let's, uh, focus and sort of recap a little bit as you
01:01:05.240
know, I'm want to do. So basically, Andy, you're just saying that success, the bedrock principle
01:01:11.320
that we're talking about here is that you are the measure of your success. Success is not
01:01:15.800
about what you accomplish. It's not, it's not about, uh, how you compare to someone else if
01:01:21.460
you're not realizing your own true, true potential. So that's the bedrock principle.
01:01:25.780
Right. So then beyond that, what you said was that, that success is not something that
01:01:30.060
something that you did in the past or something that you're going to do in the future. It is
01:01:34.080
always about what you're doing now. Right. But then along with that, you said that the really
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great thing about it is you can benefit from your, your past experiences. You can benefit
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from this cumulative effort so that you sort of build momentum and, and really can kind
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of hit your stride. So where I'd like to take it, if you're okay with, with this is,
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is just to talk about, you know, bringing in something that Ben talks about in the mental
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toughness playbook is that once again, we've talked about this before, we talk about it
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again, this whole idea of success to be truly successful. You got to really look yourself
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in the mirror and be honest. You know, you guys all know I'm fans of Gary Vaynerchuk.
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I've, I've read, if you haven't read his books, read all of his books. The guy has an
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awesome podcast. Um, he, he has the ask Gary V show, everything he does is solid
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fucking gold. Um, but one thing he talks about, which I agree with a million percent
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is that if he could give the, if he could give away a skill, like you can make a skill
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into like a pill or a shot and you could just give it to people, you know, he's like, cause
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he always talks about hustle. He's like, I wouldn't give him hustle. I wouldn't give him
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drive. I wouldn't give him ambition. I give him self-awareness. Okay. And the reason
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that you have to have self, and most people hear that and they're like, what the fuck
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is self-awareness? But this is where it's important. Okay. And I love how he brings
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that to the forefront as a principle that people need to have, because I have not heard
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one other person talk about how important it is to have that. And you know, I could be
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misunderstanding why he says this, but this is why I think it's important. Okay. Because
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here's what happens. We're talking about fulfilling potential, which is something that
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you only really know yourself. Right? So it's real easy to say, man, I'm doing my best
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or man, I'm doing all I can. How many times do you hear that from someone who's maybe struggling
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with some things and he's like, Hey man, you know, I'm doing everything I can. Or Hey dude,
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I'm doing my best. 99.99% of the times you hear that shit. It is a fucking excuse. So you
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have to understand how to be so honest with yourself. Even if you fucking lie to other
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people about it, you've got to know in your heart, am I giving my best? Am I doing everything
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I can? Am I moving forward and giving at the rate that I am capable of? And being self-aware
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means you have to fucking look yourself in the eye and say, no, I am not. And I can do
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more. Okay. Because here's what happens. People usually compare themselves to their peers. They
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compare themselves to, which we just talked about not comparing yourself, but we all do
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it. It's sometimes we have to stop ourselves doing it. But what we do and what most people
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do is they compare themselves to people they work with. And they say, Oh, look, John over
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there, you know, I'm doing more than him and Susie over there. I'm doing more than her.
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So I'm fucking winning. No, you're not winning because what you're comparing yourself to is
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people who are doing the bare fucking minimum to get by or not get yelled at or not get fired
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or not get in trouble. So you're going to do an inch more work. So you look like the superstar
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at your place because you work with a bunch of fucking lazy motherfuckers. That's not fulfilling
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potential. And, and people, you will go to people like that and you will talk to them
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and they'll say, dude, I'm doing my best. Look how good I'm doing. I'm doing so much better
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than these guys. Doesn't matter. What matters is, is are you giving the amount that you have
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to give? Because here's the reality of life guys. We're in a fucking competition, all of
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us. And you guys, this is competitive. You guys look around your workplace and you say,
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dude, I'm the best here. And you think I'm going to be successful because I'm the best
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here, but you're wrong because other places that you are not, there is people giving their
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full potential and you're competing against them and you're not seeing effort they're giving.
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And so when you get past where you are now, all of a sudden you're competing with someone
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who's trained themselves on it. And when I say this, because this becomes a habit, all
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right, giving your full potential becomes a habit because they train themselves on a daily
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basis to do the best that they can. So eventually after many, many, many months and years of giving
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all you can, you wake up and you do it without thinking about it. Okay. So the only person you
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cheat by saying, Oh, I'm better than John and Susie over there. And I'm the best in my office
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and go home and beat your chest. Like you're this fucking anomaly of hard work. The only person
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you're hurting is you because you're going to run into, you're going to run into this other
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dude that works at this other company that you don't see because you're going to move
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up your little company. And then you don't see this guy and he's going to fucking slaughter
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you. That's the bottom line. So you have to be able to look yourself in the eye and say,
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dude, am I giving all I can? Because only, you know, if you are. And the question for most
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people, the answer to that question from 99% of people listening and the people in this room
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So I got a question for everybody. How bad do you want it? You know, Vaughn likes talking
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about the mental toughness playbook and you know, everybody can get a free copy of it,
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right? We're not selling it free playbook.net go download it for free. But here's an action
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step we wanted to give to each and every single one of you. And the challenge is how bad do
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you want it? And are you willing to look yourself in the mirror and talk about the truth of where
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you are? The first mental training tool in that book is called attaining belief in yourself.
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It doesn't mean we're saying you don't believe in yourself. It's about where you are right
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now. What is the truth of your situation? And what can you do to get to that next level?
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That's what it's all about. It's about attaining belief in yourself and connecting to the truth,
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which is what you're saying. If you're not willing to connect to the truth of where you are,
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there's no way in hell you're going to get to where you think you can go. You have to have purpose,
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which big Jim mentioned, there has to be purpose. And the purpose will give you the fuel
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in order to drive that truth to the vision that you can achieve.
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And the self-awareness comes in because you have to have a realistic measure of what you're doing.
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If you're not, I mean, most people fucking lie to themselves. I don't have any other way to say
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that. Most people lie to themselves. They think they're doing way more than they actually are.
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They think they're capable of much less than they actually are. And they lie. And in order to be
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ultimately successful in your life, because at the end of your life, you're going to look back and you're
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going to say, that's when you will be self-aware by default, because you're going to go back and
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you're going to give yourself an honest evaluation at that point. Cause you're like, fuck, it's over.
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And you're going to look back and you'll say, dude, I could have done a lot more.
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I'm going to fucking, I'm going to fucking die knowing that I could have done a lot more.
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And, and all, and honestly, I can't think of anything worse than that.
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This, this is one of the reasons diving into these types of topics to really have people
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recognize that potential is why I'm so excited to really be able to travel the world,
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to be able to do this, do it anyway tour, to be able to spend a whole day with all of our listeners.
01:08:37.720
We're going to get as close as we can to all of you in different regions.
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Not too close. Don't get in my, don't get in my personal space.
01:08:43.960
There's nothing worse than fucking face talkers. Don't face talk me, man.
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So when we're, when, when we kick this off in St. Louis on November the 6th, don't,
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Well, dude, it's weird, man. Like, I feel like they're going to, like,
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I feel like people that face talk are going to fucking kiss me.
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It's a fucking weirdest thing. Like if you're a face, we're talking about self-awareness.
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Be aware of how far away you are from another man's face that isn't into other men.
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I'm going to start doing that. When I debrief you, I'm just going to sit right next to you.
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Like God, it's fucking weird. Anyway, don't irritate.
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Everybody, everybody, everybody now knows when we come to visit you,
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but that's part of what Andy and I, we want to spend a whole day.
01:09:23.500
This is not easy, right? I mean, what you're talking about, this is not easy.
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It's not a flip of a switch. I mean, you have to choose to work on it.
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We're summarizing here. That's the point. You've got to work on it.
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When we do the tour, we're going to get in depth on how you can achieve these things, okay?
01:09:35.740
Because there's making you aware of the concept,
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and then they're showing you how to execute on the concept.
01:09:41.180
So the tour, and I mean, I guess this is a pitch for the tour,
01:09:44.420
but if you have an opportunity to come to the tour,
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and then we're going to cover the how to execute on these concepts.
01:09:58.380
We're getting ready to announce the rest of the schedule,
01:10:04.240
I think we should call it the MFCEO tour beyond the Thunderdome.
01:10:11.340
And we can wear, like, the fucking Thunderdome costumes.
01:10:15.100
Like, dude, I'll be the dude that, like, you could be Tina Turner,
01:10:18.700
and I'll be the dude that has the dude on his shoulder,
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And then we'll be in Toronto, Canada, January the 15th,
01:10:35.160
Miami, February the 6th, Orlando, February the 7th,
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and then we'll be announcing dates in Austin, L.A., Chicago,
01:10:42.360
and then we're going to have a huge event at the end of the year
01:10:44.540
for those that attend the previous event in Las Vegas,
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kind of like a big reunion kickoff to just really enjoy this time together
01:10:51.160
to continue to grow, because that's what we want.
01:10:53.640
We want to spend time with you so that you can achieve your unrealized potential
01:11:00.880
Forget about the – I hope that's what everybody's pulling from this.
01:11:03.420
When you hear Andy get fired up, he does not want you to be content.
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We want you to continue to grow and challenge yourself.
01:11:13.420
Hey, Ben, maybe I'm out of turn here, but as you mentioned those different tour dates,
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if people want to get involved to help, can they,
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or is there really nothing to do in terms of help and plan and that sort of thing?
01:11:25.680
You know, I think for Andy and I, we've got a great team.
01:11:31.140
I mean, that's the most – the best thing you can do is come and dive in.
01:11:38.920
You know, Andy and I don't have to take the time to travel around.
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He could sit in front of his TV and make money, right?
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So he doesn't have to do this, but that is him recognizing his unrealized potential.
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If I don't fucking do it, who's going to do it?
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The whole world is going to turn into a bunch of fucking zombie pussy video gamers.
01:11:58.880
But once again, as we talked about earlier, that's a rule that you learn from Big Jim.
01:12:02.820
So you say who's going to – that's your mindset that you've adopted.
01:12:11.760
We're getting long-winded, and guys, you know, Ben's right.
01:12:14.820
We do this because we have a passion for it, you know.
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But what I want you to realize is that if you take anything from this podcast, it's that you are ultimately responsible for your own success.
01:12:28.320
And your chances of success are profoundly affected by your peer group.
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You know, we've talked about this on previous podcasts.
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We've talked about this many a times here and there on the internet and on – follow me on Periscope.
01:12:42.080
But if you're not surrounding yourself with the people that push you forward, okay?
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And you've got two kinds of people in your boat.
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They make you – they point out your unrealized potential to you, and it might piss you off.
01:13:08.800
But they force you to fucking look at that space that you're not looking at to where you could fill it and do something, all right?
01:13:17.720
I'm not talking about the people who make your life easy.
01:13:20.260
I'm not talking about your buddies you drink beer with who tell you how fucking great you are.
01:13:24.380
I'm talking about people that force you to see your unrealized potential and force you to act in that way.
01:13:35.780
Those are your motherfucking buddies that you drink beer with that tell you how great you are.
01:13:39.840
That's your girlfriend who nags you about how much you work.
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That's your people who tell you, you can't fucking do that, all right?
01:13:48.180
And you have to eliminate the anchors from the boat if you want to get it moving fast, all right?
01:13:54.380
You want the boat to go fast, you want a bunch of fucking propellers, and not many anchors.
01:14:00.840
So make sure that you're surrounding yourself with people who are going to push you.
01:14:07.480
You know, it's going to make you feel at some times like you're a loser.
01:14:10.680
Like I was talking to Steve this morning, like we talked about a little bit ago.
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You know, when I go to a party sometimes or go to an event,
01:14:18.100
I'm around people who are so much further down the path that I am that I'm like, fuck.
01:14:25.280
That uncomfortable feeling doesn't get me depressed.
01:14:28.240
It makes me go home and harness that energy into things that are productive, you know?
01:14:33.500
So make sure that you're surrounding yourself with the right people.
01:14:44.320
And, guys, there's a lot of, like, unwarranted loyalty towards people.
01:14:49.320
Like, oh, what about my lifelong friends that don't support me?
01:14:52.960
Well, dude, if they don't fucking support you, guess what?
01:14:58.160
You need to redefine what you see as a friend as opposed to thinking you have some sort of moral obligation to somebody
01:15:04.100
because you've known them since they were fucking three.
01:15:14.420
This is a very in-depth, lifelong concept to kind of understand and progress on.
01:15:34.320
Because if you do look at it and you get to that point, not only are you not going to be happy,
01:15:39.120
you're going to die with a lot of regret, and you're going to lose what you have
01:15:42.260
because you're not continually moving forward and you don't understand how to improve from that point.
01:15:46.960
Because if you're not moving forward, you're going backwards.
01:16:01.900
Big Jim, for me, I would just, the takeaway for me is rules versus lessons, right?
01:16:07.240
And surround yourself with the people who are wanting to bring out the best in you.
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I'd just like to say to the people, talking to the people out there that we're talking to,
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If you don't do it yourself, nobody's going to do it for you.
01:16:22.440
You've got to look in that mirror of self-awareness and say exactly who you are.
01:16:26.600
Because talking about it isn't going to do shit for you.
01:16:29.000
You've got to act on it and act on these principles.
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But you've got to live and have a competitive spirit and move on with your life.