SUNDAY SERMON: How to Disagree Without Despising Each Other, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO274
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Summary
In this episode of the Mf ceo Project, Andy and Vaughn talk about the current election, the upcoming mid-term elections, and much more. Also, we talk about a new series called Medal of Honor, a Netflix original series that chronicles the lives of some of the most heroic members of the United States military.
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the people that are running after their dream know they're going to have hard times they keep
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on running because they're saying within themselves i'm the one i'm the one no matter
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how bad it is or how bad it gets i'm going to make it what is up guys you're listening to the
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mf ceo project i'm andy i'm your host and i am the motherfucking ceo guys today is sunday sermon
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i'm here with my co-host vaughn otherwise known as dj dj god only on sundays that's right what's
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up dude uh a lot of things are up took my great boner hey dude look dude i was thinking last night
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i was watching uh um there's a good netflix series my buddy my buddy uh chris prada who's a plastic
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surgeon he does all the fake titties here in town which i think would be an awesome one sal's wife
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works for no no no that's not that's mike niac okay he's a plastic surgeon too but he's in their
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their buddies but anyway that's how i met uh chris dr prada from niac but uh talk about two great
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business guys fuck man yeah great business dudes uh good dudes too but uh he recommended us to watch
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this uh mini series or a documentary series a netflix original called medal of honor all right
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i just saw that advertised okay yeah it's good is it really good yeah it's good so like what it is
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is like it's like the stories of medal of honor recipients told by other guys who also won the
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medal of honor for something else so like one guy who's won the medal of honor is narrating the story
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and while he's narrating it they have like a like actors that's awesome okay it's really cool
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uh but what are some of the things that you have to do to get the medal of honor um
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you have to go above and beyond uh the call of duty uh you have to risk your own life and there
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has to be witnesses okay and that's that those were the three things that they said in the
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documentary now there might be more yeah but they said it's very hard to determine um the difference
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between somebody who gets uh the award right below the medal of honor and the because there's so many
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guys that do crazy heroic stuff right so i just first of all if you're into that kind of stuff
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like band of brothers you ever seen that oh yeah that's my favorite series ever that's an incredible
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one and then the one that's kind of the counterpart to that isn't too bad the pacific did you ever
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watch yeah yeah yeah the band of brothers though is just i think that's the best one ever it's
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awesome well i'm all about world war ii okay so you'll love this all right because it also covers
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like modern metal medal of honor recipients it's not just like it's old and new guys who were past
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guys who are still living it's just really cool that's awesome um but dude i was i was watching it
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and uh one of this at the end of this each series they show the actual ceremony where they get the
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medal of honor and then read uh the citation of the description of what they did and dude
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it's no secret that like i tend everybody that listens to this knows that i tend to lean towards
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conservative we talked about this on last sunday i think i can't really remember what we talked about
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because i was in the middle of a fucking rant but uh people liked it yeah well i believe well dude it's
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the fucking truth and everybody knows it's the truth yeah okay i don't even want to get started
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because i will go off certainly when it comes to national defense you are conservative well i'm just
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fiscally conservative and i'm socially liberal i'm more of a libertarian but i lean towards voting to
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the right because the left is so fucking aggressive with pushing their views on people right that i
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don't i don't believe in that right like i believe in live and let live like if you could do your thing
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do your thing you don't need to push it on me yeah all right that's not equality equality is we all get
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to do what the fuck we want to do right all right so um anyway so i never voted for obama and i quite
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honestly i thought he was a terrible fucking president terrible in every fucking way terrible
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for the country's culture terrible for race relations terrible for the economy i think he's the worst
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fucking president that ever lived he's up there for sure okay and and and if you look at the statistics
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that's not an argument that can be argued okay the stats don't fucking lie numbers wise it is what
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it is right but here's what i here's what i remember thinking as i was watching him
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i'd like to have a fucking beer with that guy absolutely you know what i'm saying yeah like people
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think because i didn't vote for him and i think he was a bad president that i somehow hate him
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no like dude i don't hate him and dude bill clinton too like i would i would rather have a beer with
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you know what though i would like to have a beer with obama and bill clinton yeah and you know what
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i didn't vote for either one of them right and the thing is is like uh i i just think that it's weird
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today because i remember i was sitting there and i'm thinking my god he just seems like a cool dude
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like and and he does seem like a cool dude like he seems like a guy i would fucking drink a beer with
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that we would joke around shoot some fucking hoops talk shit smokes of cigarettes you know what i'm
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saying maybe smoke some weed like you know if nobody was fucking watching you know what i'm saying
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like he just seems like he seems like a cool fucking dude yeah and uh and i think it's interesting and
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it got me thinking um how it's interesting today that if you disagree with someone's motives or you
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disagree with their politics or you disagree with what they believe that somehow they have to be
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your enemy right you have to hate them yeah and like why is that what is that like where where did
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where did it go that like you and i as grown men who have totally different worldviews can have
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different points of view about what we've experienced and what we believe and all of these things that
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compared to what we have in common right okay because we have much more in common than we do
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different and that and if you were a black man it would be the same right if you were an asian man
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it would be the same if you were a woman it'd be the same we have far more in common
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than we do to fight about right but human nature at least human culture culture over the last
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and i do think obama had a part in this honestly over the last 12 years or so
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has become so polarizing and divisive that it makes
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us believe that if we disagree with someone's point of views that we don't like that person or we can't
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hang out with that person or we can't go to dinner with that person or we can't like their shit on social
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media you know what i mean and like like they're you're either all the way with me or you're all
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the way against me and that's it right you know and i think that's yeah i think that's a shame it is a
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shame i think it's i think it really is because somehow we've let the extremes dictate what's the
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normal policy in america like i mean i experienced this as a pastor i used to hang out with a lot of
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people that were were not very good christian people and and there were more jesus yeah and
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yeah exactly and there were there were really really conservative people in my congregation this
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wasn't the majority but there were really really conservative people like hyper conservative that'd be
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like why are you why are you hanging out with these guys but is it bavon isn't your job as as a leader
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of the church to help people improve yeah they thought that by me they thought that by me hanging
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out with guys that were radically different that i was somehow approving of what they did or said
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and i and i think that's crazy but of course the exact opposite extreme is the liberals who say
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you only love me and really value me if you subscribe to what i say like which is not true and i honestly i'm
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i won't get into this but i do think that there are certain people with certain kinds of lifestyle
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that they either say you approve of it you celebrate it or you hate me no you don't you don't have to
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approve or celebrate and you don't have to hate either right exactly you know so my question is why do
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people like you and me why do we have friends that are all over the spectrum and i do yeah and i do too
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and and i why do we have friends who are all over the spectrum i talk to on a regular basis who are
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dude i have people that represent my company that are extreme fucking liberal feminists extreme right
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like the furthest i know exactly who you're thinking okay and you know what dude they represent
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their views in a respectful manner and they're they have logical discussions and i can respect that
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now do i agree with those viewpoints no i don't agree with a lot of the things that are said but that
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doesn't mean that we can't work together we can't do things productive together we can't be friends
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can't have drinks can't have a dinner can't support each other you know and i think that's something
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that really i think that's a big problem with uh with our culture right now you know kind of
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continuing on from what we talked about last sunday where we you know basically just went off on all the
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problems i've had some time and you've had some time to talk about some of the maybe the actual
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causes and the causes yeah on a on a person by person basis right and i think that's what we're
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talking about here is that you know we have to recover the lost art of disagreeing with one
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another without despising one another and there are there are many ways to do that uh but they require
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maturity and they require logic and they require understanding and tolerance and compassion which
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by the way are all the things that the extreme left preach right but they don't exercise you know
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what i mean yeah i agree man i i grew up i mean i'm i'm getting old i'm older than most people in our in
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our uh in our listening audience and the truth is is that i remember being a young kid and all the
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democrats that i knew all the liberals that i knew they were the ones that were protecting free speech
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they were the ones that were saying like no you ought to be able to share that and not have
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somebody jump all over you and in some ways it was the hyper conservative people that wanted to like
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censor people i remember you know yeah and now it's gotten to where liberalism has become this like
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if you don't toe the line with political correctness if you speak your mind you are censored
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right and and we only tolerate that which like it's almost like they assume that we all really think
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what they think right we're scared to say it's crazy and the worst the worst thing about it the worst
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thing about it is is that it's like literally that whole mindset has completely infested our
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university system oh yeah so all the people i'm not all of them but they're by and large you know
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these kids go to these state universities and there's not really a healthy marketplace of ideas
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there's the really off the rocker professor who's espousing his views and if you question him or any of
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the really active liberal groups on campus you're somehow a hate monger or you're a bigot or racist
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or whatever you can't raise any legitimate questions and the funny thing and what that what those people
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don't understand is that by attacking people for questioning what they believe with those sort of
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attacks all you're doing is removing the validity of those statements like now the term racist doesn't
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mean what it meant five years ago right eight years ago right like everybody everybody is everybody's
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a racist have you have you heard about what this what's happened and i'm using this as an example
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but have you heard about what's happened with this this young asian girl at the university of
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california berkeley her name is isabella wong or something like that well there was a there was a big
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like student government vote and it was on something i don't i don't know what it was but it was on
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something about the whole transsexual issue and what she did is she she's a student senator and
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what she did was she said hey listen i have all the love in the world um for all different kinds of
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people wherever they're coming from but me personally from my personal point of view i believe that they're
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really only two genders man and woman and so i can't in good conscience vote for whatever this
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whatever they were voting for sounds reasonable right i mean she's just speaking up to it for her
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thing she has been absolutely vilified like she's been called a hate monger she's been called anti this
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and anti that because she actually thinks that there's two genders instead of 27 genders um it's
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and again i'm not getting into who's right and who's wrong on that issue what i'm getting into is that if
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you read what she said it was very it was expressed very respectfully very lovingly and let and yet she is
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being tarred and feathered like in the media in the media really at california berkeley like there's
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all these student groups that are calling her a hate monger and that she's anti you know transsexual
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or whatever whatever but it just goes the point being is that how have we gotten to a point in our
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culture where we can't like legitimately express ourselves in very honorable uh respectful you know
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loving ways without all of a sudden somebody coming back and saying no you're a hate monger or
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you're you know homophobic or whatever that's an easy argument it's easy it's easy to call someone
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a bigot it's easy to call someone a racist it's easy to say you're fear mongering or hate mongering
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it's easy to say someone's a homophobe but what's not easy is to sit down and examine their argument
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their argument and then also examine your own argument yeah and then see what pieces fit where
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that takes thought that takes reflection and it takes humility and there's not a lot of those
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things going around right now no not at all uh you know it's interesting um well i was saying we you and
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i both we have we have lots of friends who are on a wide variety of a spectrum and on the one hand we
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get along with all of them on the other hand we're not actually saying that you know the differences
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between what you believe and what i believe we're not saying oh they don't matter we're striking that
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balance between saying hey what we believe on this does matter and our differences do matter but
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they don't keep us from engaging one another in friendship you know so my question is why is it
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that you and i and a lot of people like us are able to do that but the vast majority of people aren't
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like why don't why i don't consider myself super special i don't think i'm like super unique in my
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ability to get along with people but it does seem like what we well let's be exercise in our own
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lives is increasingly rare let's be real dude okay uh i was just on phone with randall pitch right as i
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was driving up to the headquarters today and we were we were talking and we were laughing about how like
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we were actually talking about this exact thing uh but we were laughing at how um you know
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if you we were literally having almost this exact same conversation uh but we were laughing about
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how like dude neither one of us will go on facebook very much anymore and the reason why we don't go on
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facebook is because the amount of stupidity and negativity and it's so negative that like when
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you're busy you've got to be conscious about what you allow in your brain because if you let those
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things take a space in your brain that's less space for things that are going to be productive and you
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just can't do that because we're like anybody else dude uh you know i could read something online and
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it can infuriate me and cause me the next three hours to be concerned with shit that really doesn't
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fucking matter and um we were laughing you know i think the first difference of what you're asking
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on that question is that dude first of all you got to believe you got to understand all right what
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we're bombarded with on a daily basis is literally and i don't say this to be mean but it's literally the
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one percent lowest intelligence of the world the malcontents of the world absolutely so we see the dumbest
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people arguing with the dumbest motherfucking people right okay and then we're and then what
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we assume is that everybody's like that but the truth is is that most people are keeping their
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mouth shut like you and i and they're having logical conversations so first off don't think that just
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because and i'm talking to myself here too don't think just because you see this shit everywhere
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it's how everybody is because it's not true right okay um second of all uh i believe that like
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you know intelligent people especially you know once you grow up a little bit um and and when i say
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grow up i mean like you know you start to think for yourself okay instead of like looking to other
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places for validation or looking to the news uh because dude let's be real the media has an agenda
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and their agenda is to be extreme okay uh that's why you know we have all these shootings is because
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the fucking media sensationalizes the fucking shootings and these kids who are lost think that
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their only way to be relevant is to do shit like that if the media would be responsible media and
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promote shit that was actually productive and positive in an unbiased format we would have a lot
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less of these fucking things going on yeah and and the truth of it is is that we're going to watch
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the media's message no matter what so um it's it's a commitment that that they got away from you know
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it used to be the news used to be and when you went to school for journalism it was learn how to report
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what what does that mean that means observe right and fucking say what happened and let the people
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decide what they think about it now when you go to journalism school it's about how to make a spin
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so that you can get the spotlight on you and and position yourself as some sort of authority so that
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you could move up and get your own show and become dude if you if you watch these people on the news
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and you take a step back and you watch them and not listen to what they're saying you can truly see
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that they're in it for themselves absolutely they're in it to become a star they want to be the bill o'reilly
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they want to be uh the uh rachel maddow they want to be those people so how do they become those people by
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acting like those people on every fucking story that they get you see this shit in sports how many times
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in sports do you see somebody make a three-yard fucking run and the guy calling the play is trying
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to make it sound like he just won the super bowl you know what i mean right oh he's about to oh he
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got tackled and you know like dude it's the most annoying shit in the world but all that is is them
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trying to progress themselves and by them trying to progress themselves they are feeding us shit
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that hurts us absolutely it hurts our ability to relate to people it makes us think poorly of
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people it makes us think that issues that are my minor issues are massive issues right and if dude
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if you watch the news black people and white people fucking hate each other right all of them all of
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them yeah like yeah like all the black dudes in the warehouse they fucking hate all the white dudes
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that's why they're back there fighting right now right right they're having a fucking race war in a
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fucking back room if you watch the news that's what would be on the news yeah you know 17 white
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guys beat up four black guys right in a racial racially motivated snowball fight right you know
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because we just had a snowball fight this morning but like dude that's the shit that that you know
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people the dumb people watch and then people put ads yeah you know and and more than that they'll
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leave it in this in the situation you just described they'll find the one representative of his or
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her race who's like the worst possible guy and they'll pluck that guy so they'll find the one
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they'll they'll say uh one black man complained that the that the snow was white you know yeah no
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and then like zoom in on that guy so that and then white people read that and they're like man stupid
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you know you know what god's god's fucking racist dude you know why because he made snow white yeah
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right exactly no it's just crazy but you know what that reminds me i i don't know if you'd be up for
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this someday but i news has been so biased for so long that people are so so used to it
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someday we ought to have a a show just about here's how to read the newspaper no here's how to pick up
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on the bias because there are certain words that are telltale indicators that this this isn't a
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headline dude this is a this is a statement of opinion people exactly by the way the new york
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times is one of the worst offenders of it vaughn you're a fucking you're a writer you studied this
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shit dude i truly truly believe that most people do not know how to watch the news and pick up the
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bias i feel like they they feel like i should be able to trust the news what they're saying is true
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and and that's why people who watch whatever station right regurgitate that shit
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you know over and over and that becomes their beliefs like they truly believe it's the truth
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right it is not the fucking truth and you have to be smart enough to be able to step above
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and and think on your own and to answer your question what's the difference i i really think
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besides all those little things we just mentioned the biggest thing is that once you grow up and you
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start thinking for yourself and you develop the ability to rise above and look down and decide what's
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what on your own right then you start to become very secure in your beliefs that's a key okay and
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so when you become secure in your beliefs you don't feel the need to push them on other people
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because it's not about other people it's about what you believe right it's about what your family
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represents okay how am i going to raise my kids how am i going to run my company how am i going to
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teach the people who follow me what message do i represent what core values do i stand for and when you
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become solid there you spend zero effort arguing with people that disagree and you don't mind with
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people disagree because you know what i know what i am i know what i represent i know what i'm about
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so i don't need outside validation from joe blow on fucking facebook absolutely i mean
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what would you do if if some 18 year old punk said to you hey andy uh
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you don't know anything about building a business i would ignore it you would ignore it i would you
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might get mad in the sense of get irritated but would you get offended no no why would you why
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would you not get offended i know i know how to run a business right because you know it it's like
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if somebody said to me dude i would i i get people to say that i have people to say that shit
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like i have people to say that shit on my instagram literally every time i post oh dude you know what
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you just got fucking lucky doing that you're just another fucking snake oil salesman that got lucky
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blah blah blah like dude i just fucking block the motherfuckers right you know like and it's it's like
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if somebody were to say to me you know you suck i don't even respond i just fucking block them
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like it's not and then like i block them and then usually what happens is i'll get dude it's funny
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because emily hates this shit by the way don't do this what i'm about to say bless you well
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that was a big sneeze bless you god bless you thank you thank you i need it uh so uh but dude
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they'll dm emily and they'll say your husband blocked me i was in a bad mood i don't know what
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i was doing could you ask him to unblock me you know what the answer is no no don't be an asshole
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right you know what i'm saying so um but i just feel like the more secure
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you are the less you feel the need to defend yourself absolutely you know absolutely i can
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say with a clear conscience and i'm not and i'm not you know we've talked about but don't you think
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that comes with with with learning to think for yourself i think it comes with learning to think
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for this yourself but i also think it comes with just taking the time to evaluate your own opinions
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and your own beliefs it's not just thinking for yourself but it's actually giving some time to
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studying what you say you believe for instance i know i get it i know that there are very very very
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smart people out there who literally do not believe that there is a god but i've studied it enough i've
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studied the arguments for and against that if somebody were to come up to me and would go dude
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you're an idiot god doesn't exist it's that's just i wouldn't be offended which is not offended by
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that that's probably an argument that you hear right i hear that all the time and i'm not offended
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that by that because i'm secure in my own beliefs because i've taken time to study it i've taken time
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to evaluate i'm not i'm not in a million years saying that i am infallible and that i couldn't
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possibly in any way shape or form be wrong but i've studied enough that i'm not offended if somebody
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says that i'm not offended if somebody says any number of things against my religion because it's
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okay it doesn't mean that first of all i think people have lost the fine art of somebody attacking
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their views without them thinking they're attacking them that's because of the internet
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yeah dude the argue dude people have lost the fine art of how to fucking argue absolutely like dude
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how many times have you and you and i argued a lot yeah you and i have argued a lot yeah like people
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don't ever really hear it but like dude we'll be talking about something and we'll get an argument
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yeah but have i ever said hey vaughn you're a piece of shit you know that's where people people take
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it from like an argument online that then it becomes it automatically goes from i disagree with
00:26:38.360
you to you're a fucking piece of shit right fuck you right you know it's like right dude if that's
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the best way that you know how to argue you're gonna have to learn how to argue really well in life
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because guess what life is it's a long series of fucking arguments it's it's tension it's conflict
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and that's how you grow and uh yeah so basically what we're saying so far i guess is that if you want
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to be able to have these and i agree with you by the way yeah yeah yeah like i think we're saying
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sort of the same thing no no i 100 i just wanted to take a second because we've covered a lot of
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things i'm just going to say for those of you who are following us because i'm sure you are but you
00:27:10.020
know when when two geniuses get on the get on you know sometimes it's hard to follow that's true
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you know well at least when there's one genius yeah exactly one genius and one would be um but no i
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think i think with the with the art what we're saying here is that if you want to have the kind of
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relationships where you can disagree but still really connect as friends one you got to be
00:27:27.620
securing your your beliefs which is what andy was talking about and the second thing is i think
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kind of reading between the lines of what you said is you've got to learn how to attack the problem or
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attack the attack the the claim not the person don't don't make it personal just say hey we're
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just arguing about some sort of issue and i have good i have good friends like really good friends
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that i know i could call in a pinch yeah that completely disagree with everything i fucking absolutely
00:27:54.020
like about about my political views you know they're on complete opposite end yeah but if i
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call them today they will fucking show up absolutely you know what i mean and we've lost that we have
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it's it's crazy but um i i just it is sad but i do think it i do think at the end of the day
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the reason that most people are offended is not because somebody said something that is objectively
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offensive it's because they themselves are insecure absolutely and they are thin-skinned
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and they take everything personally right and they you know and dude you want to flip it around
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on someone like when they get all offended and they fucking get pissed off because this is what
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people do right like what i just said you say something or you type something or you post something
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they disagree and then they say vaughn you're a fucking retard right right right and you just say back
00:28:44.420
you want to flip it on someone you should say something like this hey uh i don't know what i
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did to to to take it to that level i respect that you disagree but you know they don't know what to do
00:28:55.400
no need to get like that and you know what they'll do every time you're right bro i'm sorry yeah you
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know what i mean yeah yeah well but but at first it'll kind of stun them yeah because they're being a
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bigger person yeah absolutely now look i'm the first guy that wants to say fuck you brother
00:29:08.380
right like you know but the truth is is like i i don't really have the time or energy to deal with it
00:29:13.600
so i just block them but a lot of you guys like to argue with people so if you want to fuck with
00:29:17.520
them just yeah sort of agree with them be like yeah you know what sometimes i am retarded but i
00:29:22.420
don't think we need to take it there right now and they're like uh right but it is amazing though
00:29:27.500
that people have really lost the art of determining the difference between a statement that's an
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objectively critical statement of a particular position or belief and something that's an insult
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or or something that's truly offensive so for instance you know back in the day if somebody
00:29:43.740
if somebody said um you know some sort of racial slur they said oh you're just a stupid whatever
00:29:48.840
yeah well that is offensive okay but we've gotten to the point where if somebody says you know what
00:29:53.960
in evaluating the the antidotes for institutional racism in our country i actually don't feel like uh you
00:30:02.020
know affirmative action scholarships are really effective in helping that so that's just that's just
00:30:06.780
you're just making a statement about something you believe you're racist but you're racist right
00:30:11.480
and they don't they don't see the difference between stating an opinion on policy when i'm
00:30:16.760
actually making an insult yeah but when a real answer to that would be like you know what i don't
00:30:24.140
necessarily agree with that but there's probably some areas that we could improve on it right so
00:30:28.740
what are those areas you see i'm saying oh yeah yeah where's that conversation yeah like where's that
00:30:34.720
yeah well that would require once again a certain level of brain power and thinking right you know
00:30:40.700
what though dude i will say this on you're fucking honky yeah yeah you know yeah fucking racist honky
00:30:45.640
right you know we've we've been kind of tough on the on the left and by the way that goes both ways
00:30:50.880
yeah i was just about to say we've been kind of tough on the left the one thing that i get
00:30:53.760
really really frustrated because there's some fucking dumb motherfucking conservatives out there
00:30:57.480
absolutely it's like i was and there is some fucking fault as much as there is far left
00:31:02.260
ridiculous fucking dumb fucks there is the same amount of far right oh absolutely absolutely
00:31:09.240
and i think you do nothing but fucking stir the pot you know they're doing everything they can to be
00:31:14.760
to be offensive without actually saying offensive racial words right you know what i'm saying or like
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divisive homophobic words it's like they say it without saying it just so you know guys listening
00:31:28.120
we don't like that shit either no absolutely that shit's fucking just as bad like the way you guys
00:31:34.300
see it uh like on the left is the same way that us in the middle you know white hand right see it too
00:31:40.280
yeah i absolutely i i we should honestly dude we should figure out a way to cut off like the the the
00:31:46.620
far left five percent and the far right five percent and like send those motherfuckers to different
00:31:51.120
islands and the rest of us could just be happy absolutely i agree you know it's um to kind of
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illustrate that here's a perfect example while it is true that people take the whole there you know
00:32:02.320
there's a racist under every rock thing the flip side of that is that you know if you study our nation's
00:32:07.500
history like in 1921 50 000 clansmen uh congregated in washington dc and held a rally in like as late as
00:32:18.180
the 40s and 50s one in four of of the people that stayed of indiana i'm not picking on indiana because
00:32:23.580
hey i'm from kansas so we had some of our same issues but one in four were members of the kkk
00:32:28.720
holy shit oh yeah it's crazy really yeah one in four of of adult white males was a member of the kkk
00:32:36.540
wow um so and there's just been some like if you get into the i've i've i read the um the autobiography
00:32:42.380
of martin luther king i mean in the 50s and 60s there were literally white people blowing up black
00:32:47.600
churches and killing black kids and so when i hear somebody say today dude that was like 50 years
00:32:55.720
ago or just get over it you know like that wasn't that long ago that wasn't that long ago and we we
00:33:00.500
you know i do believe that this is the greatest country the world has ever seen that said it
00:33:06.220
doesn't mean we're perfect that's right it doesn't mean we can't learn from our mistakes right and just
00:33:10.380
to sort of casually dismiss our history well that happened like you know 50 years ago that's to me
00:33:15.660
that's the opposite extreme that's like so downplaying the fact yeah that we do have a
00:33:20.120
history of this now i'm not standing up for those people who say that because i don't like that either
00:33:23.860
but in the cases when that's when those kind of things are said i feel like they're usually provoked
00:33:31.260
by comments of saying well you guys got to pay reparations right you guys got to pay like this
00:33:38.060
extreme you you've got to pay money for shit that happened right right exactly so right no i totally
00:33:44.080
agree with you so it's like these two extreme arguments of that of stupidity right to be
00:33:51.380
completely honest absolutely and the rest of us are caught in the crossfire right which is why
00:33:55.120
what we're saying here guys about the internet right it gives the fucking it gives everybody a voice
00:34:01.080
yeah absolutely not everybody deserves that voice and i think the answer is is have a firm position
00:34:06.700
be proud of your position but be reasonable like don't don't don't refuse to hear any of the claims of
00:34:13.260
the other side that's to me that's the problem is that we're so caught in the crossfire between
00:34:17.320
extremes that that when somebody says hey listen you're right not everything's racist but we do
00:34:21.840
need to recognize that there are some there are some historical racial undertones and and just have
00:34:26.840
a reasonable conversation the problem is we can't because the the extremes are so loud dude it's
00:34:31.200
because everybody's a liar yeah everybody's lying everybody's lying everybody's lying about the
00:34:36.340
issues okay like dude if like i'm talking about racism like
00:34:42.920
generations that are still alive today that are 60 plus years old they grew up using the term nigger
00:34:52.360
as if it was the term dude right you know what i'm saying like it was a common term right and
00:34:58.440
if you don't think that every single fucking white person every single one has family members in
00:35:05.480
their family that use the term nigger right they're a fucking liar right that's the truth
00:35:09.640
okay it's way fucking it's way more than what fucking white people want want to fucking say it is
00:35:16.360
absolutely but you know what it's also the truth is if you if you're fucking black and you your family
00:35:22.320
doesn't sit there and talk about the fucking white man and you act like that shit don't happen
00:35:25.820
you're fucking liar too everybody has their issues that's right no question absolutely so
00:35:31.480
and until those conversations at home are fucking not tolerated right you know what i'm saying like
00:35:39.660
where you hear your crazy uncle fucking saying that you say hey don't fucking say that right that's not
00:35:43.940
okay you know what i'm saying absolutely or whatever and that goes for both sides until the fucking
00:35:49.120
conversation is handled on the home front in the family gonna fucking change yep 100 because that shit is
00:35:56.060
taught you know what i'm saying like your kids hear your kids hear your crazy uncle hear that shit
00:36:01.560
and then they're like what's that mean and that's where it fucking starts yeah and until those
00:36:05.420
conversations are controlled at home and you and i'm talking to all of you stop tolerating that kind
00:36:11.360
of shit it ain't gonna change because here's what's happening right now you have motherfuckers who
00:36:18.180
tolerate that shit at home and then come out in public and act like they don't tolerate right and then
00:36:23.040
they're like well i don't know where this comes from like everybody's a liar they're all fucking
00:36:26.640
lying and there are some excuses but almost to a person if some kid is saying it it's probably
00:36:33.680
because they heard it at home it's probably because they heard it from their dad no shit mom yeah yeah
00:36:37.120
100 so okay so in order to have these great relationships where we can disagree but not
00:36:41.900
despise each other you gotta be secure in your own beliefs and you gotta you gotta learn to attack
00:36:45.620
the problem not the person and don't take it personal but i'm curious and i think there's an
00:36:49.800
element of sales in this so i'm excited to hear what you say you have to say but let me ask you
00:36:55.340
andy if you are going to influence somebody if you are going to persuade them to your point
00:37:00.760
how do you go about doing it instead of just yelling at people
00:37:22.280
i when i was younger and when i say younger i mean like under the age of 30
00:37:37.040
okay uh like to dominate the conversation you know what i mean
00:37:41.780
i'm right and here's why and here's this this this this this
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and until i completely destroyed the other person or we got in a fucking fight
00:38:05.120
when you're in business which a lot of you guys are that's why you listen to this
00:38:11.700
is to have a argument where the person walks away
00:38:16.420
um so i realized that and i realized that it probably would affect my money
00:38:22.560
and that's what made me start to like evaluate how i was
00:38:34.520
uh and and coincidentally when i started to realize that i started to make a lot more money
00:38:44.380
you first of all you got to know when it's appropriate
00:39:07.700
because 50 percent of the people are going to disagree with you
00:39:11.800
and because of the nature of our culture right now
00:39:29.740
like what if you're posting shit on your social
00:39:49.100
but you're probably not going to progress very well in that company
00:42:14.240
because that person has made a conscious decision
00:42:21.100
and even though he's upset with Chevy right now
00:44:14.800
I actually started to look forward to his jokes