The Secrets of Successful Social Media Advertising, ft. Billy Gene Is Marketing, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO245
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1 hour and 10 minutes
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219.94281
Summary
In this episode of The MFCEO Project, the CEO and his co-host, Vaughn, the Pastor of Disaster, Vaughn the Impaler, Vaughn Diesel, Jean-Claude Van Damme, and DJ God join me to talk about how to become a better CEO.
Transcript
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I can stack them hundreds to the roof. I ain't stopping till they stack to the moon.
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Without me, my family wouldn't have food. Anybody go against me gotta lose.
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What is up, guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy, I'm your host, and I am the motherfucking CEO.
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Guys, today we've got an awesome, awesome podcast, full-length, full-length feature, motion production.
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Some of you guys are bitching to me about how I've been off my game for podcasting.
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You know what? I fucking have. You know why? Because I don't just talk for the sake of talking.
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I talk when I have something of value to say, which I would highly recommend for all of you as well.
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There's nothing worse than people who just put out content that really serves no purpose.
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So what I try to do, guys, is when I start to feel a little bit burnt and start to feel like I'm not delivering my best content,
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I take some time away. It's nothing new if you've been a listener to the show.
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So, by the way, this is free, so don't bitch about free. Don't be coming at me talking about how I'm fucking slacking.
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I got a real fucking job, motherfucker. My job ain't to be popular on the internet.
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I've got thousands of employees to look after, and I'm sorry, they come before the free content that I put out on the MFCEO Project.
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Now, if this is your first time listening, yes, we are a business podcast.
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Yes, we are also a personal development podcast. Yes, we are free, and yes, we are ad-free.
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And the reason that we are ad-free, which I could make seven-plus figures a year doing ads on this show
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because of the way that we've got it ranked, is because I like to keep it value-focused.
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Now, in exchange for that, guys, I do have a fee, and my fee is not monetary. My fee is this.
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If you love the show, if you got value out of the show, which you fucking will because we're great at what we do.
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If you get those things, I would appreciate it if you would share the episode that you got the value from with your friends
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We're an organically driven show. We don't run ads. We don't have ads.
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I don't run ads to promote the show. It's all organic, and it's all on you guys.
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And we happen to have a pretty fucking great community that supports the show.
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So if this is your first time listening, join the community, become a motherfucking CEO of yourself, and share the message.
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Now, with that being said, I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Vaughn, the pastor of disaster, Vaughn the impaler, Vaughn Diesel, Jean-Claude Van Damme.
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So, as I was saying, did you know that we got an email from a reporter from the New York
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Well, they wanted to know, she's apparently writing an article about how podcasting entrepreneurs
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like yourself, who have massive influence, monetize your podcast.
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Well, I'm waiting for her response, but I said, basically, in three years of giving out free
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information, we literally, other than writing a series of children's books that are just
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meant to impact the next generation, we literally have not advertised or monetized at all.
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And this is actually going to be a great show to talk about this, but there's two ways to
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You could directly monetize something, or you could passively monetize something.
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And you know what happens to people who listen to the show over the course of years and get
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They end up becoming customers of my other companies.
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They end up doing things that we don't directly sell them to, but they end up becoming customers
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And I would argue that that is far more valuable, which is another reason why I don't charge
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for a lot of shit, than trying to monetize with 10 minutes of ads that are going to ignore
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That's the biggest complaint I hear of other people's podcasts.
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They're like, dude, it used to be good, but now the first 20 minutes are just ads.
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And most of these motherfuckers don't know how to read ads, or do a live read, or genuinely
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So, yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing what she has to say.
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And then I'm going to send her a bunch of incriminating photos of you.
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So, anyway, we have an awesome guest for you guys today.
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Well, I would wish you would move to San Diego and go away.
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You guys have probably seen him on the internet, and if you haven't, you will be seeing him.
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We definitely drank a lot of tequila and a lot of beers for my birthday.
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First of all, let me jump in and just say I'm stealing a quote.
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The word entitlement can be used to describe so many different aspects of people, but when
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you have somebody that's giving you shit of value for free and you're bitching about
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So, remember that when you bitch about people's content.
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Look, I'm not the only one that people ... I see it on everybody's videos.
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They bitch about my shit and I'll be the first one to tell them, fuck if I don't care.
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Or they'll say, you know, like I see it, they'll say stuff to the other guys out there
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who are doing a lot of free content, like Gary, and they'll say shit to them.
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If you don't agree, that's one thing, but just because somebody's saying something the
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way you don't like it and 90% of it you like, and then you're going to attack them
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It's kind of a weird phenomenon that it's really always the non-contributing zeros that are
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So, before we get into what we want to talk about, dude, let's get into a little bit
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of just let people know, you know, your background, your entrepreneur story, and just, you know,
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kind of let people know what you're doing, you know, where you came from, what you're
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For the sake of value, I hate spending a whole bunch of time on myself.
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So, I'm the best in the world when it comes to using advertisements to turn clicks into
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And simply, man, I went to college, University of San Diego, born and raised in San Diego.
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I dropped out, and I didn't go to my last class.
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And I was one class away, still am today, from getting my business degree.
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I started a mobile oil change company that went to shit.
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I ended up in an online university where I was making 600 cold calls a day, asking people
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to go to college, ironically, when I didn't finish it.
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And then after that, I saw the power of the internet and how you could impact people with
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And so, long story short, I ended up selling this online quit smoking program.
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I did everything under the sun that you can imagine.
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Then I finally stumbled across this thing called Facebook ads.
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And when I started advertising on Facebook, I made like one or two sales.
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I still lost money, but I realized it was possible.
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And it happened when I was asleep, and I got fucking obsessed.
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Then I started to go to Craigslist and find companies who were looking for marketing people.
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And I'd call them and say, look, instead of hiring a full-time employee, which is expensive,
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And I just would fucking cold call people with the same script again and again.
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And that's how I started to build up my business.
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Fast forward, we started working with some of the largest franchises in the world.
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A ton of them, like from your massage interviews or your Orange Theory Fitness to your Club
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And we did Facebook ads to bring them customers.
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Also, too, the biggest thing about my career that I want everyone to understand is that
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And none of them know what the fuck they're doing.
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And so for me, when I was at my mom's house, I didn't have any credibility.
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So I told people, look, you don't have to pay me if you don't make money.
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So I had to learn how to get them results, ROI.
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So I never got into like the branding side at first.
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If you don't make more money, you don't pay me.
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Well, dude, that's the thing, though, is how many people are willing to learn something new
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Dude, first of all, people just aren't willing to fucking go out and get their head beating anymore.
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So and the other thing is, is, dude, how many people are willing to what we talk about on
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the show all the time and what I live with my company?
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We're probably the only company that I know of on earth that offers 110 percent money back
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guarantee, which if you really wanted to, you could turn ordering first form supplements
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And but the point is, is we stand behind our shit because we do the right thing.
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And, dude, when you're willing to do that and you're willing to do it over the course
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You're going to be one of the first major clients I got that was in the franchise.
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He he called me and he was counseling the day he was going to pay.
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He's like, honestly, I heard this Facebook stuff doesn't work like we can't do it.
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I was so desperate because I was depending on that money to pay my shit.
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So I said, look, if you don't make money, I will triple what you're paying me.
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He's like, well, you send that to me in an email.
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I sent him an email that said, I'm going to triple what I pay you if I don't make you the money.
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I got him 123 leads in one day, the most he's ever seen.
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He called up six other people who had a location and that's how I started blowing up in the
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Dude, I got a funny story that's very similar to that.
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Ryan Riggle, who works here at First Form now, he's one of our executives at First Form.
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When I met him, he sold cable TV advertising, right?
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And, dude, I couldn't afford anything because we weren't making any money.
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Um, so he called on me for like two years straight, like literally got to the point.
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It was, it was the point where like he got annoying and then I just accepted that he wasn't
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And so he just showed up, we'd hang out and then he would leave because I couldn't do any
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So it was like, like he called on me, then he just kept, kept showing up and I was annoyed.
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Like I'd, I'd see him in the store and I would like not go in the store cause he was in
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And then it got to the point where I just ignored him cause he's going to be in there.
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And then finally, like we started, I'm like, so dude, look, yo, but that's it.
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This was the, this was the dude, wait till I tell you what happened.
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So he sold the TV advertising and, and we were going to do a radio campaign.
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And he's like, all right, well, and he thought about it like this.
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Well, if I could help them become successful on radio, even though I'm not making anything
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though, I, he's, I'm going to earn his trust and we'll move forward.
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And he, I remember him telling me like, dude, it was like, I don't know.
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So, um, but dude, we didn't have four grand a week.
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Like fucking, it meant like it was a difference between us eating and not eating.
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So he's like, look, man, he's like, you gotta, you gotta stick with this for 12 weeks.
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So eight weeks in nine weeks in, dude, we literally had not gone up at all in sales,
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And, and previous to this, I've been in business for like 10 years.
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And I had started and stopped advertising so many times because I never learned what I
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And, and so he's like, dude, look, he's like, if you don't, if you're, if your business
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doesn't, if this doesn't work out after 12 weeks, I'll give you your money back.
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I'm like, how the fuck is this guy going to give me his money back?
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And he, dude, clearly I, you know, he didn't have the money to give me back.
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And he was just like, he just was trying to get me to calm down.
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Well, dude, like 10 weeks in, uh, we, our business went up a little dude, uh, literally
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on week 13, our business was double what it was on day one.
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So now we went into not only that, but like he, we started buying ads from him for cable
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We can, their number one, his number one customer.
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And then after a few more years, I just fucking hired him.
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And now he, like, he has a way better career here than he had there.
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And it was all because he was willing to stand behind the advice that he was giving.
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You know, the problem that we have right now is that we have these fucking quote unquote
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entrepreneurs teaching people how to open digital ad agencies because nobody knows how
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But the answer isn't for you to go out and start a digital online agency when you don't
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That's, I was going to say, you said something very crucial that a lot of people do not understand.
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And you're like, I didn't set out to make an agency.
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You just got good at a particular set of skills and then evolved from there.
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See, people spend so much time chasing the money.
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But if you fucking chase solving the problem, the money flies.
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Dude, it comes in boatloads because you're solving the problem better than anybody.
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And dude, that's a huge problem right now because there is a huge need for digital agency
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But the problem is, is that none of them are experts.
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Then they'll do another two years in residency.
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Attorneys, six years in school, seven, eight years when they can practice all that.
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Entrepreneurs, one fucking course for 300 bucks online.
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They're going to come in and tell someone who's a bit, dude, I had these motherfuckers
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I started selling fucking fix your credit books that I wrote when I was 17 years old
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So I've been writing copy for 20 fucking years and I got these motherfuckers sending
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me emails saying, Hey, I can help you with your digital ads.
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Motherfucker, we spent a hundred grand a day on Facebook.
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But so, and dude, this is why, this is why I wanted to have you on the show because you're
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one of the, you're one of the people that has truly become a real expert in this space,
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which is awesome for you because the space is so wide open right now.
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And the thing is, is like, dude, you're, you're combining so many of these different
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elements that I've always been interested in because I love copywriting and I love direct
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response and I love branding, which by the way, you need all three.
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But what you've done is you've taken guys who, dude, the Frank Kearns of the world, the guys
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who are, you know, Craig Clemens, these dudes who have like, yes, they've, you know, even
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Dean Graziosi, guys who have taken copywriting and turned it into billions of dollars.
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And what you've done is you've taken it and you've applied it to what the tools we have
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And what a lot of people aren't realizing is look, business is always going to be the
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You put a message in front of somebody, you ask them if they want to buy some shit, you
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But the coming back part is the part that none of these motherfuckers get.
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That's how you stay in business and build a real brand that lasts forever.
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But the biggest thing that I see is that the ABC, the CBS, the TV stations, the radio,
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the billboards have all switched to Facebook, Instagram, YouTube now.
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But the reason why somebody picks up a newspaper was different than why somebody goes into social
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You solely go there because you're sitting there bored.
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Therefore, if that's why everyone's there, you have to play by the rules.
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You can't just come there and say, buy my stuff, buy my stuff, buy my stuff.
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Dude, like these motherfuckers in the fitness industry, like every fucking day I see them.
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And dude, you can always tell people who don't know what the fuck they're doing by how often
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Because if their main strategy is to run a sale, that means they don't know what the
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Like, dude, they never run a fucking sale, by the way.
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Like, it's just, and then your customer sits there and they will not buy regular because
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they know you're about to have a sale and it fucks your whole shit up.
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It's the dumbest shit I've, and all I see from these fitness motherfuckers, and a
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lot of them are my friends, but I try to tell them this shit and they're just like, no,
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I'm like, you don't think it works because you don't realize how well it would work if
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But like, dude, they're getting on Facebook or Instagram every fucking day.
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And like, dude, they're training their customers to only buy when they're running a sale, which
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means you're taking your margin, which would be X, and you're dividing it into fucking by
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three, and now you're operating your entire company on a margin that doesn't make sense
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See, and I'm going to give your audience something real tactical.
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So if you guys are listening at home right now, I'm going to give you like the simplest
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exercise that will fucking allow your business to grow sales without discounting shit.
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And all you have to do is you take a blank piece of paper, okay?
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And you think about who your ideal customer is, the person you want to be your customer.
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Then I want you to draw a giant capital T on that piece of paper.
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On the left-hand side, I want you to write the word problem.
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On the right-hand side, I want you to write the word solution.
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Then I want you to write the top five problems that your potential customer is facing.
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Then I want you to create a video solving each one of those problems.
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And at the end of the video, ask them to fucking buy.
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I'm telling you, it works every single time in every single industry.
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Because then they're buying because they want the solution, not because it's a discount
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Then they don't even end up using the product or service anyway.
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Dude, they certainly aren't going to believe in it.
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They certainly aren't going to promote it for you.
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They're not going to tell their fucking friends.
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Because nobody feels good about buying something on a discount other to themselves.
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People don't brag about, oh, dude, I bought this fucking this for this and it was
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That's what people that have very little money do.
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The people who are going to be your customers for life, who are going to promote your business,
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they're people who are going to be proud to pay the price for your product because it
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So now you're harnessing the power of the tools that we have, aka social media, to your
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And in addition to that, if I ask you guys right now, why do people buy?
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But for some reason, when we go online, we forget about being liked.
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That's still the reason why people want to buy.
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So I always tell people, the reason why we, as an agency, for the last four years, every
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single client we've worked with, we've required them to use video ads.
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And if they don't use video ads, we will not work with them.
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Because they keep selling their product service, but they forget to sell themselves.
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And so I say, people, I say, look at your sales process.
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And then I want you to evaluate and ask yourself this one question.
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At what point in the sales process do we make the customer laugh or smile?
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And if every single step of that process, when you're touching a customer, you're not doing
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those two things, you're missing an opportunity to create those raving fans that you're talking
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about that keep coming back again and again and again.
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It's something people don't think about, but it's so important.
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Well, dude, so your formula, it's very simple, but it's fucking brilliant.
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And the most brilliant things in the world happen to also be simple.
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Because no one could actually judge something as brilliant if they can't fucking understand
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So you have entertain, educate, and execute is your three main points.
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What about the, like, dude, I've been fortunate.
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So I've had to work really hard at developing a personality for audio and video because of
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Now, you take this so much further than anybody else is right now.
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But let's talk about the guy who, let's say, isn't good.
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Well, I'd say number one with what you just said is you realize something that nobody realizes,
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So the first thing is owning the fact that you saying to yourself, well, I'm just not
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that personality, you're fucked, and just stop doing business, and that's fine.
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But for entertainment, it doesn't always have to be about you.
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So if you guys are, again, if you listen to this whole podcast, you should have a piece
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The other three things I'll give you are these.
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So regardless if you're boring as shit or you think yourself is boring, everybody can buy
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So if you go to Amazon and look for oversized or really small anything, it's a great way to
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Whatever industry, whatever your customer is looking for.
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Those are websites where you can search for music by emotion.
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So whatever the tone of your video is, again, if you're not the funny guy-
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And you can actually legally use them on social media when you're advertising so you don't
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Go somewhere weird that people don't typically see.
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It doesn't cost you anywhere to fucking walk somewhere or Uber somewhere.
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Do something that people are going to have to watch because if you don't grab someone's
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attention in the first five seconds in social media-
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So, dude, and here's something I want to add to this, and I've said this before on some
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Because of the way you talked about the rules have changed, okay?
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We have different tools that have different rules.
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Now, whereas you go to business school right now, they're going to talk to you about the
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importance of your logo and your branding and this and that and this.
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Motherfucker, people are more connected than they ever have been in the history of
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People are not buying from a corporate logo anymore.
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They want to see the person step outside of behind the logo and become the personality
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Dude, it's the same reason why, like, Progressive, they brought Flo in, you know, the insurance
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But this is why you're seeing all the little companies chip away at these, like, yes, there's
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these huge companies right now that are still doing well, but they are not doing as well
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as they were five years ago because all these little guys have figured out something that
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they had before, which was a liability, which was this.
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And if people want to buy from people and can see the people they buy from, they will
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go for that business or that product every time over the big corporate giants of the
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So what you think is a liability, you know, I'm not big enough, I don't have the funds,
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I don't have this, I don't have that, is actually a tremendous advantage that the big
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You know, so it's a huge part of just, you know, understanding the dynamic of the rules
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is like the things that you think, oh, I can't afford to run this ad or I can't afford
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to do this or I can't afford to make these videos.
00:25:58.060
Dude, the fact that you can't afford that is actually your biggest advantage against them.
00:26:02.880
And in addition to that, there's a lot of ways to get around the affording part.
00:26:06.160
Like when you just told that story, you said it was going to cost me four grand a week
00:26:09.780
For a lot of people, that's like, what the fuck?
00:26:11.420
Like today you can run an ad on Facebook for $5 a day.
00:26:15.680
Dude, stop buying your fucking Starbucks and now you have the time and the money.
00:26:21.740
So five, six years ago before social media really got to where you could do what we're
00:26:27.000
talking about, maybe seven years ago now, we have a franchise company, right?
00:26:32.720
So for us to, let's go to, to open our brick and mortar retail stores in let's say Chicago,
00:26:44.180
What would it cost before the new, before the new way of advertising, the new way of
00:26:49.120
marketing, which is Facebook and YouTube and social Instagram, podcasting, all this other
00:26:56.140
If, if it's not free, you can highly target it down to where you're actually getting your
00:27:01.220
But before that, if we wanted to go to Chicago for me to cover the entire area, think of
00:27:09.980
what it would cost me to buy radio, television, billboards in an area like that.
00:27:15.700
We, our company simply could not afford to go there and do that.
00:27:21.420
So I did as an experiment, like I'm a social guy, but I desk with all kinds of advertising.
00:27:25.740
It's like 36,000 bucks for four billboards for three weeks.
00:27:34.660
And, and, but, but the limiting factor of growth right now, even for companies that
00:27:41.140
And by the way, a lot of people say, Oh, brick and mortar is dead.
00:27:45.020
You just don't know how to fucking market properly with the new tools.
00:27:49.500
People still want to buy from motherfucking people.
00:27:51.600
People, they come in our stores every fucking day, see our people who, by the way, they
00:27:58.060
entertain, they educate and they equip, which is funny because we use equip instead of, instead
00:28:04.060
of execute, because we want people to leave with the tools they need to get the result.
00:28:07.620
So, um, but people still want that connection, man.
00:28:12.300
And you have some of these fucking experts right now.
00:28:18.820
Billy Jean, I have a followup question for you.
00:28:24.260
And with music, you talked about like connecting with the right emotion.
00:28:27.860
So for environment in your experience, have you found that there's, should there always
00:28:33.560
Like, let's say you're, you're, you're presenting something like it's an information product.
00:28:38.240
Should the environment necessarily be consistent?
00:28:40.700
Like, like, should you choose a library or a classroom or is it better to actually switch
00:28:47.560
You gotta remember, we're talking about two different things.
00:28:49.920
You're talking, we're, we're talking about marketing.
00:28:58.360
I mean, I guess I'm thinking about like, if you're buying, if you're trying to pitch some,
00:29:02.640
something that's maybe helping people be smarter and you're creating an ad for that,
00:29:06.560
Like, I mean, would you personally record that ad in an environment that sort of calls to
00:29:14.960
So there's a school of thought where when you run an ad and let's say like we're going
00:29:19.900
Well, if there's an ad in a gym, they're probably going to stop and look the first five seconds
00:29:26.100
But at the same time, there's little things that you can do to grab attention in that
00:29:33.480
So for example, one of our best performing ads is literally I crouch down and I just fucking
00:29:42.020
Look, we live in a day and age where everybody fucking knows they're being advertised to.
00:29:54.180
So like almost every ad I do for like our company, when I'm trying to reach entrepreneurs,
00:29:57.940
I literally say, hey, hey, hey, hey, you're watching this ad on YouTube right now.
00:30:03.240
And I know you were looking at cat videos, whatever the fuck else you were doing, but
00:30:06.060
I got something important to say, but actually acknowledging them and saying it's cool.
00:30:13.220
And dude, which also, by the way, builds one of the most important concepts to you retaining
00:30:23.160
So what you're doing by doing that is you are, you are making them trust you.
00:30:28.160
They say, hey, this motherfucker is telling me the truth.
00:30:31.160
So they might not say, oh, I trust this guy a hundred percent the first time, but you're
00:30:35.840
At least he's talking to me and not fucking pretending like talking around me on some
00:30:39.260
And dude, how, I, I, I asked this question a lot when I speak, I said, how many of you,
00:30:43.560
how many of you people raise your hand if you know when you're getting advertised to
00:30:48.060
I said, okay, what makes you so fucking smart that you think you could fucking advertise
00:30:52.320
and people aren't going to know you're advertising to them?
00:30:56.220
Every motherfucker raised their hand in the room.
00:31:06.120
I was going to say that reminds me of when you were in Miami for Gary V's event and you
00:31:11.080
Take your fucking face off your motherfucking card.
00:31:16.620
Hey, my, my, my favorite example of that is real estate agents.
00:31:20.240
They all have the same fucking LinkedIn picture like this.
00:31:26.660
You made them raise their hands too, didn't you?
00:31:28.420
I go, how many of you motherfuckers have your face on your business card or on the side of
00:31:44.180
You're only doing it because other people did it.
00:31:52.780
Gary, after the thing, he was like, that was fucking funny.
00:31:56.380
But dude, it's just like, stop doing shit for, for, because other people do it.
00:32:01.680
All those other motherfuckers, they don't know what they're doing either.
00:32:03.660
And by doing things just because other people do them, you're stealing from you the opportunity
00:32:14.080
And I want to parlay, like, based on what you guys were saying right there, I think a lot
00:32:18.280
of people aren't to themselves or aren't genuine or put up that corporate thing because
00:32:21.860
they believe the way to get trusted by the potential customer is by doing the things you
00:32:28.880
But the only way to get trust in today's age is to be fucking honest.
00:32:31.860
Now, some people say, well, the truth is I still live at my mom's house and blah, blah,
00:32:38.220
If you tell them where you're at and say, this is where I am today, they will fucking buy.
00:32:45.620
You mean they'll actually root for you instead of you going out and standing in front of someone
00:33:01.860
Um, and one of the, one of the, so I have a three part process to customer loyalty and
00:33:09.920
So the first thing you can do to get someone to trust you is to educate them on something
00:33:19.480
And that process between education, trust might happen 10 times.
00:33:24.480
It might happen a hundred times, but eventually they're going to stop questioning if you're
00:33:29.160
telling the truth and they're going to become loyal.
00:33:31.940
So the, your second part of your process after the entertainment aspect is to educate.
00:33:37.280
So, which guys, the reason loyalty and trust is so important is because after we sell them
00:33:46.660
So the, I love this about your processes because the educating part, um, builds the trust in
00:33:54.280
And when a lot of people, you guys aren't realizing is that, you know, 10 times more than you think,
00:34:00.500
you know, I think sometimes we own worst credit.
00:34:09.420
Like I, I legitimately like wonder sometimes like why the fuck do people even listen to
00:34:22.280
Like, uh, it's, it's to a fault though sometimes, you know?
00:34:25.940
And, uh, and you have to understand that like, dude, we all feel that way.
00:34:33.440
And the only thing that takes you out of it is taking the leap, putting out the truth.
00:34:36.900
And then when someone responds and sends you that direct message and says, Hey man, I just
00:34:47.240
And then that becomes the, the confidence, the blood force, the energy to want to keep
00:34:54.780
I guess what happens when you do something over and over again, you get great at it.
00:35:00.760
So, so, so let's talk about the education process.
00:35:03.260
You know, why is this so important and, and why is it such a valuable piece of your formula?
00:35:09.260
I think right now there's so much bullshit out there because the barrier to entry to business
00:35:14.080
is at an all time low because we have so much access, right?
00:35:16.220
Like anybody can fucking make their own Wikipedia page.
00:35:18.900
Anybody can make a website profile pic, take a picture in front of a fucking Lambo, dah,
00:35:22.980
So to really differentiate yourself, you actually have to demonstrate expertise.
00:35:28.600
See, we came from a background where everybody can tell them how great they were, right?
00:35:32.640
I'm going to put my name on a billboard because I have a billboard that by default means I'm
00:35:39.180
So if there's any marketers in particular listening, stop running advertisements, telling
00:35:43.080
people how much you can grow their business, record yourself actually helping a business
00:35:48.460
for three months, show the fucking process from when you came in to the end.
00:35:52.980
Chop it up in a six minute video and then say, if you want me to go through this process
00:35:56.620
with you, click this button below and your fucking business will explode.
00:35:59.380
And this is a saying, you have a saying about this demonstration outclasses, self-proclamation
00:36:04.880
every fucking time guys, like fucking demonstrate.
00:36:13.920
And, and, and from your experience, how much more effective is that process with, with,
00:36:21.100
with advertising versus versus cause I, cause I know you've run both kinds of ads in your
00:36:26.480
So let's give people a little idea of like, honestly, the difference, the other ones don't
00:36:40.700
So I have a lot of clients and they're like, dude, why am I ads working?
00:36:43.700
Like I put this picture of this cat and like people are liking it and clicking it.
00:36:47.440
And I'm like, well, did you fucking show them anything that would actually help them?
00:36:51.300
Or did you just stay in there and talk about how great you are, what you do?
00:36:54.300
And it's just as classic as the fucking ShamWow.
00:36:56.260
Everybody's seen the fucking ShamWow commercials or you've been to a fair where someone takes
00:37:00.060
out a fucking knife and they chop up vegetables.
00:37:01.940
You're like, dude, I'm not even, I'm not even into cooking, but I'll buy that product.
00:37:07.800
Figure out what your product is and just fucking demonstrate people using it and ask them if they
00:37:20.280
You know, we've all seen the before and after pictures.
00:37:22.620
Well, the reason those fucking work and the reason you can't put them on fucking Facebook
00:37:26.460
anymore is because they work so well that people can actually sell completely bogus shit
00:37:35.960
Well, think about your business or what you're trying to sell.
00:37:38.460
How are you going to demonstrate your before and after?
00:37:41.520
It might not be, I lost 50 pounds, but figuring out, you know, I got this fucking steel pipe
00:37:48.960
Here it is as a pipe and I cut the motherfucker up with the Ginsu and now it's a bunch of little
00:37:55.740
Now, I know neither one of you guys ever needed to watch this show, but did you ever watch
00:38:08.180
Okay, okay, so the best part of that show was the footage, the behind the scenes footage
00:38:13.220
of watching the guys going and trying to pick up the girls in the bar, which to me sounds
00:38:19.600
Even like real estate agents, like think about it.
00:38:22.100
The most successful real estate agents today are the ones with the TV show that go in,
00:38:25.900
they go to a house, they fucking record themselves like fixing it and then they fucking sell
00:38:30.940
Yeah, and if you, let's go back to the real estate agent.
00:38:32.640
I actually fucking said this on the stage in that talk where I told motherfuckers, I'm
00:38:39.160
How about instead of putting your face on a fucking business card and writing the same
00:38:42.480
fucking shit about the house, like everybody else writes these over like, you know, descriptive
00:38:49.200
corny ass fucking descriptions, how about you record yourself going through the house
00:38:53.860
and painting a picture for the potential buyer?
00:38:58.340
The crisper tree would look great right here, don't you think?
00:39:00.780
Like, you know, you could be the guy who like revolutionizes and dominates your space.
00:39:05.800
And everyone is such a dinosaur right now and not doing this, you guys, the opportunity
00:39:12.100
Like, I love dinosaur industries when they come to me because I'm like, dude, we're
00:39:14.340
going to fucking win because nobody else is even playing.
00:39:19.060
And you're going to be the first guy playing and you're going to be the first guy for 10
00:39:26.080
So here's the other thing, the big shift that I think is happening right now that people
00:39:29.000
are sleeping on, videographers will, I guarantee you guys, be a standard hire for all businesses.
00:39:36.820
The same way you have an accountant or a tax yourself, you will fucking have a media department
00:39:42.660
So at any given time, they can create taunting.
00:39:46.460
Like my daughter, when she grows up, she won't even know a world without it.
00:39:50.380
Because I'm telling you right now, I don't give a fuck if you have all the credibility
00:39:56.940
If motherfuckers look you up and they can't find you on Facebook, they find you on YouTube,
00:40:01.400
you got two videos with three views, they don't see you on Instagram, they will not trust
00:40:08.300
And by the way, I get this question all the time.
00:40:12.240
Listen, I'm going to answer this fucking question for all you motherfuckers.
00:40:20.160
Just like people say, oh, Andy, you've got all these great employees.
00:40:24.300
You think I won the fucking lottery of fucking employees?
00:40:28.420
I got good at leadership and management and personal development.
00:40:34.520
Like motherfuckers, you think like you're just, oh, that person's just the leader.
00:40:38.940
That person practiced, fucked up a whole bunch of times, and then finally got it.
00:40:44.000
There's times, and Tyler does this now, but when Tyler first started video, guess who
00:40:48.800
stood behind Tyler and said, hey, I don't know how to cut the fucking clip,
00:40:56.120
We should cut it right here and put this music in, or do this, or this, or this, or this,
00:41:01.680
I don't have to do that anymore because he fucking learned it, and now he stands behind
00:41:09.140
You don't just hire people like, oh, dude, but how do I find somebody like D-Rock, Gary?
00:41:15.060
Motherfucker, you think D-Rock just showed up out of the fucking outer space on Gary V's
00:41:25.640
Bro, this is so real, and here's the disconnect.
00:41:29.360
Unfortunately, people don't realize that when you start your business, it takes you so long
00:41:34.500
to get to the point where you can just afford to live, right?
00:41:38.980
You're going to pay a bunch of employees a lot more money than you make for a long fucking
00:41:45.280
Most people become so resentful because they put so much into getting to that place.
00:41:50.080
When an employee comes on, the idea of paying them or training them just sounds miserable,
00:41:57.140
But as an entrepreneur, it's almost like you got to make the decision twice.
00:42:07.760
Because if I ask people, is your payroll an expense, they'll be raising it.
00:42:14.660
It's only an expense if you're not fucking training your motherfucking people.
00:42:17.920
Otherwise, it's going to be a fucking investment.
00:42:19.800
And every person at my company, every job they've done, I've done at one point.
00:42:28.700
It's like motherfucking we're in the churches together.
00:42:31.240
I know there's people in your company, just like there is in my companies, that are better than
00:42:41.640
So what the key is, is you'll find people who are willing to work hard, who are willing
00:42:46.140
to learn, who are willing to build and carve a place for them career-wise with you, and
00:42:54.540
It's like taking the training wheels off your kid's bike.
00:42:58.600
Like, you know the motherfucker's going to crash, but what do you do?
00:43:03.540
And it's the same thing that people aren't willing to do that with employees.
00:43:07.180
They'll take the fucking training wheels off, the motherfucker go crash, and then they
00:43:14.340
When you have a team member not doing a thing, it's your fault.
00:43:17.120
The lack of accountability is insane right now, and that's why you're fucking losing.
00:43:21.700
And you have to be willing to look at people's mistakes when you're training them as an investment
00:43:30.320
Like, dude, you know, your t-shirt or your apparel guy makes a wrong run of t-shirts,
00:43:40.300
But guess what ain't going to happen when he's ordering a million dollars worth of shirts.
00:43:49.720
Like, there was plenty, especially, this is where people get it wrong the most is in sales.
00:43:52.920
Because usually you're, like, the best person selling your products or service.
00:43:55.720
So when you get those salespeople in there, and you need that money, and you, like, clench,
00:43:59.220
like, oh, my God, I'm watching, I'm listening to him or her miss that sale, you want to hop
00:44:06.340
You got to understand that you missing that sale is the cost of getting them to a point so you
00:44:18.200
And you have to look at it that way, because otherwise it'll drive you insane.
00:44:21.200
Arrogance and ignorance is the only two things stopping people from at least hitting that
00:44:24.500
million dollar mark in their company, is you either think you fucking know everything
00:44:27.880
and you don't fucking get help, or ignorance, you just don't know so much that you're fucking
00:44:33.580
Dude, I think arrogance is even more prevalent than ignorance.
00:44:37.420
I have so many motherfuckers that will, I mean, let's just be real here, motherfucker.
00:44:44.140
If you're going to come to me and you're going to tell me about business, your business does
00:44:52.740
And you're going to talk to me about how, what's right?
00:44:59.520
My scorecard is a lot bigger than your fucking scorecard.
00:45:03.680
If I'm going to talk to fucking, uh, you know, my friend, Ed Milet, Ed Milet, he's further
00:45:20.140
So, but it's, it's amazing to me the amount of people who are, who are, and I call it
00:45:26.280
They get into business, they get a fucking LLC, right?
00:45:32.140
And they got a business card that says CEO on it and they got a little office somewhere
00:45:35.880
and they're not learning any of the skills they need.
00:45:44.280
They're not learning how to market or advertise or brand, but they'll be the first one to
00:45:48.960
let everybody know that they're a fucking business owner.
00:45:51.600
And they think they got 20 years of experience, but they got the same year repeated 20 times.
00:45:55.860
And that's like the fucking realist motherfucking shit that everybody goes through.
00:45:59.080
It's like, man, the unwillingness to learn, invest.
00:46:02.740
Like I said in the beginning, the doctors will put in 10 years just to learn, but you will
00:46:06.920
not like people say, like this is my number one question I ask people who say, I don't have
00:46:20.820
Is it weird that you fucking haven't invested any time into it and you're fucking broke as
00:46:32.400
And this is a lot of people dog out millennials and shit.
00:46:35.300
I don't believe in that because I think millennials are fucking awesome, but they have to be handled
00:46:39.940
And the way that they have to be handled differently is to understand that most millennials
00:46:43.200
do not have an accurate concept of patience because the way older generations grew up
00:46:53.180
You couldn't just get on the internet and talk to all your friends in real time over across
00:47:07.160
Like, if you want to see your fucking friend from Alabama, you might see him one weekend
00:47:10.840
a year when your family goes to vacation in Alabama.
00:47:15.500
And the understanding of combined with the idea that people feeding these people that
00:47:25.060
But the way our society has evolved, patience has become something that's hard for them
00:47:35.400
It's our fault for creating that environment and not realizing that we're teaching them
00:47:39.740
how to not have patience, which is a crucial piece of the fucking puzzle.
00:47:45.380
And a lot, too, like, with millennials and me being 30 and a millennial, I call myself
00:47:50.360
a millennial that's not a millennial that fucking hates millennials, but I obviously hire
00:47:55.400
But I think the game here is they are into purpose.
00:48:06.400
It's like, dude, it's about fucking something bigger.
00:48:08.280
Dude, the reason it's great is because the tools have evolved now to where we're not able,
00:48:16.620
businesses are not able to sell a product that doesn't solve a real problem because
00:48:28.980
Whereas 30 years ago, it took years for that to happen because when you want to see your
00:48:34.180
friend in Alabama, you only saw him once a year.
00:48:37.540
You're not going to talk about this fucking thing that happened to you from this company
00:48:42.180
But now, when you piss someone off or you lie or you cheat, everybody knows instantly.
00:48:46.940
So, we have a situation now where we have companies that, to be successful, have to be dedicated
00:48:59.120
We have a workforce that is totally 100% purpose-driven.
00:49:05.320
Those two things together are like peanut butter and fucking jelly, man.
00:49:10.740
And right now, if people are thinking like, well, I just don't have the money to hire
00:49:14.460
Dude, sales cures all, but it really, like, I want to kind of paint a picture for sales.
00:49:19.900
So, I know there's a lot of people listening right now and you may be in this stage of
00:49:23.500
And you may listen to us talk and you're like, well, these guys already have X resource,
00:49:31.740
But even when I didn't have any money, I knew a couple people with money and I knew
00:49:35.560
I had the ability to sell them to give me some fucking money.
00:49:38.500
So, right now, if you're in the position where you're like, well, I don't have, I don't
00:49:44.640
You can sell people to join your team and to work for free.
00:49:48.640
My first employees, they worked for fucking free until we made some money because I sold
00:49:53.260
them on a vision, which is tattooed on my wrist.
00:49:56.320
You got to have fucking vision because that's what drives all of it.
00:49:59.600
And dude, you know what's, you know what I think a lot of, a lot of quote unquote CEOs
00:50:05.500
and, and quote unquote business owners, they don't have the vision that involves the, cause
00:50:12.820
like, dude, when you try to sell a real vision, just like we said a minute ago, people know
00:50:19.500
So if you're going to lie to them about what you're trying to do with your company, just
00:50:23.160
to get them to buy in on the short term, those people will bury your company, bury you
00:50:29.740
And so we have a situation now where we have, you can't survive in business without solving
00:50:37.560
You have a workforce that is dedicated to purpose and solving problems.
00:50:43.360
And if you want to be a great CEO, you've got to be people driven to where your model
00:50:49.800
and your vision has to include your key people longterm.
00:50:55.740
Uh, we're talking about doing the right fucking thing.
00:51:02.020
Creating opportunity for people who, who put sweat equity in it.
00:51:07.220
Dude, we've had, I've had a number of times where people have tried to buy our company
00:51:11.600
and I always say, no, I'm not interested in selling the company.
00:51:15.200
Cause I got fucking 150 motherfuckers that sweat every day for this and I don't trust
00:51:29.400
And dude, but most business owners, the reason what I was getting at about painting this vision
00:51:34.960
They are selfish and they don't give a fuck about their employees.
00:51:38.500
And if you truly don't give a fuck about your employees, you're not going to be able
00:51:45.160
And then they won't give a fuck about your customers and they will put you out of business.
00:51:51.100
Like people probably right now own a business there cause I hear this all the time.
00:51:55.780
They're like, well, how do I get my employees to care?
00:51:58.380
Well, you got to fucking care about them first.
00:52:02.860
I was just going to say, you were saying that we're living in an age, uh, you're saying
00:52:06.300
this earlier where, where the big dogs are now being attacked by little, little people
00:52:13.200
What's amazing to me is how, how many people don't understand that you have a skill that will
00:52:19.580
solve a problem and that you as an individual can do a better job than in many cases, a
00:52:24.280
lot of these established organizations that have been around forever.
00:52:26.940
I have a buddy who he was, he was a public school teacher for a couple of years.
00:52:30.960
I mean, he literally was making like $38,000 a year and he just finally said, you know what?
00:52:37.560
I'm going to just basically market myself as a private tutor.
00:52:40.340
He makes three times as much now as a private tutor.
00:52:45.560
If I was a videographer right now thinking how I fucking think, I can tell you what I
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I would be thinking like, fuck dude, you know what I'm going to do?
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I'm going to open up a school for videographers.
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I'm going to teach motherfuckers how to be videographers.
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I'm going to graduate these motherfuckers into companies to run their media team.
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You'd have a, that'd be a billion dollar fucking company in five years.
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Paul and I have been fucking talking about this shit for like two years.
00:53:09.560
No, but at an academy, you bring them in, you train them and you place them.
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I mean, like, like there's, as an individual, because of the, the, the assets that are out
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there and the resources that are out there, you as an individual with your skill can do
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And I think the, the number one, like benefit asset resource strength that everybody's missing
00:53:35.040
The reason why I have five people in house who do nothing but create content is because
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we can move so much faster than virtually almost anybody in our space.
00:53:47.820
So once you put a layer in between and you say, all right, well, we're not going to hire
00:53:50.860
a media team, but when we need someone, we'll go look for a contractor and then we have
00:53:54.880
to vet the contractor and then we have to describe to him the product and the company.
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And by the time you figure, by the time you got it done, you don't need a shit no more.
00:54:01.860
So being able to strike immediately on an opportunity, that's why fucking content is key.
00:54:05.840
So the last point on your, on your process is to execute.
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And I know what this means, but what does it mean to you?
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Like execute is where I think like right now we live in this world where people are afraid
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to sell, sell, sells, a salesman has a really bad stigma.
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It always has kind of, but even now, like right now, everybody's like, oh my gosh, how dare
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And so once they collect the lead, once they get the opportunity, they have someone in
00:54:37.460
front of them, they're afraid to ask for the credit card.
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And as a result of that, you can have the best marketing in the world, but who cares if
00:54:45.780
So for me, you should never be ashamed of selling when you know that your actual product
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Cause then it's, you're, you're, you're selfish if you're not selling them.
00:54:55.380
And like, I own that so much that like I've trained my audience to like every single time that
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And in addition to that, people don't get mad at you selling.
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So if you can fucking make somebody laugh during the sales process and they know what's coming
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and it's fun and you can be authentic and you can be real, like letting them know that
00:55:23.820
Because the way they do it, it's just the fucking, it's the delivery.
00:55:28.460
So if you feel sorry about selling your shit, it's your fucking fault.
00:55:33.560
The core belief is that probably if you, if you feel bad about selling, whatever it is
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that you sell, it's probably because whatever you sell sucks.
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And also too, like the other thing I see right now is like people say all the time, like
00:55:51.120
How do I just get to 10 grand or whatever it is?
00:55:53.280
I'm like, dude, you want to know the real shit?
00:56:00.980
No one picks up the phone right now because they're like, well, I have a system and it's
00:56:06.020
Which by the way, motherfucker, that's the opportunity.
00:56:08.780
The reason why picking up the phone or actually talking to someone face to face is so valuable
00:56:14.980
and why I said a minute ago retail will never fucking die is because the opportunity to connect
00:56:22.300
with someone is becoming more and more and more rare.
00:56:28.260
It means that when you can truly connect, when you can fucking look someone in the eye,
00:56:33.360
when you could shake someone's hand, when you could talk to them on the phone,
00:56:38.160
Hey, let me tell you how deep this goes because I know there's a lot of guys that listen to
00:56:42.440
Listen, not that I've ever had it, but if you want to have sex and you're doing all this
00:56:47.200
Tinder shit and you're fucking swiping left, you're swiping right, you're on the fucking
00:56:50.880
match.com, you're on the Facebook message, Instagram, you're poking people, you're sliding
00:56:55.220
in the DM, I dare you to take one of these dates and pick up the phone and call her and
00:57:01.420
I bet you your chances to close go up by 20x because no one does have time to call.
00:57:08.220
But the girls today, they're like, he's a weirdo.
00:57:13.660
But dude, the thing is, yeah, and those are the ones you don't want.
00:57:16.180
But the thing is about what we're talking about and the way you and I see this, which
00:57:23.780
I'm glad that you and I see this and most people don't because it creates more for us
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But the thing is, is that the opportunity that is being created because of the automation
00:57:34.480
and because of technology, when was the last time you went to Home Depot and saw more than
00:57:42.480
Or at the grocery store, but I bet if you went into Lowe's and they had 30 fucking cash
00:57:47.500
registers open, that they would sell 10 times more shit than Home Depot because of that.
00:57:52.560
And what's happening right now is that technology is starting to really create a tremendous opportunity
00:57:58.800
for us to go back to what's really valued, which is human connection, which is entertainment,
00:58:08.120
And I'm excited about it, but like a lot of these motherfuckers that are listening right
00:58:11.700
now, they're drowning because of it because they're like, I'm supposed to use an automated
00:58:18.320
I'm supposed to use these stamped thank you cards.
00:58:21.480
I'm supposed to use an email system and they're getting fucking killed.
00:58:28.080
For those of you running business right now and you have active customers, I'm going
00:58:31.480
to give you the craziest challenge that's going to freak you out, but I promise you
00:58:34.980
When someone buys online or someone through automated process, pick up the phone, call them and thank
00:58:42.400
Number one, they're going to fucking love you and be around forever.
00:58:44.520
But number two, they will either refer you someone else or they will buy more shit.
00:58:49.980
Hey, thank you so much for buying like those t-shirts on our website.
00:58:58.140
They will look for opportunities to support you.
00:59:00.020
They will look for it because you did something.
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We have a saying here that the value is in the inefficiencies.
00:59:06.880
So anything that you can do that's perceived to be inefficient, that takes work is going
00:59:13.720
So picking up the phone and spending a fucking five minute phone call with them, that means
00:59:18.080
a lot more than a five minute phone call 15 years ago because everybody was calling.
00:59:23.160
I got some other value for like that, that made me, that triggered something.
00:59:26.200
So a lot of times with advertising nowadays is remember when someone has never tried your
00:59:32.600
product or your service, they have no idea what they're missing out on and you forget
00:59:37.400
So remember this quote, the value is created after the experience.
00:59:42.900
Meaning if you fucking have a gym and you're like, why is no one coming to your gym?
00:59:50.900
So your only job when first meeting someone is to get them to the experience so they can
01:00:00.180
And dude, you ever notice that the most unsuccessful business people are the ones that talk about
01:00:04.300
how great their experience is and nobody fucking knows about it.
01:00:10.020
How the fuck is anybody going to know what you do when you don't have any customers?
01:00:15.760
You have the other guys, which all they care about is acquiring the customer and they don't
01:00:29.900
What do you think are the, you know, just some of the biggest mistakes that you see people
01:00:37.040
Well, that would be one is one, not realizing that the value is created after experience,
01:00:40.300
but also two, when you're most of the ads that people are running on Facebook right
01:00:45.260
now, there's a place in there to write when you're writing your ad copy.
01:00:49.140
I think now is really important to like show your personality and also to people appreciate
01:00:56.680
So when you write an ad with perfect grammar, perfect spacing, perfect punctuation, it actually
01:01:03.540
Whether you like Obama or Trump, if you go to any Toastmasters across the country, everybody
01:01:07.460
tells you never say, um, if you say, um, while you're giving a speech, it shows uncertainty
01:01:13.680
They, they teach this and they've been preaching it forever.
01:01:15.760
Obama comes in and he goes, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, and then you have,
01:01:22.220
and then you have Donald who comes in and says all kinds of shit and perfect, like grammatical
01:01:32.100
I'm, I am, if you, if you go by Toastmasters standards, I'm the worst fucking speaker ever.
01:01:37.980
Yeah, but I guarantee you there ain't a motherfucker out there teaching Toastmasters that makes it
01:01:44.160
Like I went recently, I was like, this is so interesting, but like, uh, but nonetheless,
01:01:50.000
So when you're writing your advertisements, like when you have that perfect video and there's
01:01:53.560
no stutters, there's no arms, you don't say something stupid.
01:01:56.100
There's no awkward looking moment that actually hurts your conversions.
01:01:58.580
And I can tell you that that's across like all industries.
01:02:00.580
Like people want to see the human side and know they're buying from a person, which is
01:02:05.440
That's why people love bloopers, you know, at the end of a movie or at the end of a crush
01:02:10.480
You know, like let's, let's talk, let's talk about Tai Lopez, Tai Lopez, love him or hate
01:02:17.640
I really, it's really irrelevant to what I'm going to say.
01:02:21.380
What one of the most famous fucking ads on YouTube.
01:02:24.060
And by the way, he, for a long time, and he might still be the most, uh, the biggest advertiser
01:02:29.600
on YouTube, but his fucking ad, everybody knows his ad.
01:02:36.260
It's the most, it's the most, honestly, you can call it.
01:02:57.180
And if people are mocking you, that's a good side.
01:02:59.020
You know, like if there's all sorts of spoofs and stuff, that's a good side.
01:03:02.220
But here's the thing about Ty, too, that people don't realize, and we've, we've like, uh, hung
01:03:08.820
A lot of people see that, and because of the style, it's like, hey, he kind of just put
01:03:13.660
But when you guys are advertising, another mistake that people are making is, and Ty
01:03:16.920
will say this too, is you're not experimenting enough.
01:03:19.420
So people don't realize it took him almost 30 different ads for that one to finally blow up.
01:03:24.980
So even though it was his cell phone, he experiments more than ever, which is why his ads win.
01:03:30.100
Because like, Kim and his brother, their whole operation, dude, they're fucking, they're
01:03:34.020
Like, they fucking test, they test, they test, they test, they test.
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Which is vintage, classic direct response advertising.
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You fucking write, you test, you put the money behind the shit that works.
01:03:48.120
So when you guys are like lollygagging, like, oh, this isn't right.
01:03:50.240
The worst thing you could ever do is have a partner and talk with your team
01:04:01.160
When you start running anything by committee, what happens is, is the fucking final product
01:04:05.640
comes out so watered down that nobody likes it.
01:04:08.780
You know, because then I got your opinion and I got your opinion and I got Europe and
01:04:14.500
And everybody doesn't like this about this about this.
01:04:16.600
And you end up with some shit that nobody pays attention to.
01:04:21.240
That's the whole problem with a lot of our government, to be completely honest.
01:04:27.180
So closing thought, let's just, let's just try to get these people to a place where the
01:04:36.620
best value that we can offer them right here on a closing thought.
01:04:40.180
I'm going to hit you guys with some real shit because most of the people listening to this
01:04:43.600
podcast, my guess is that you're here because you want to make money.
01:04:46.560
And I genuinely want you to ask yourself, what can you do that others cannot?
01:04:53.840
And usually within that answer, you realize why you don't have any money because you didn't
01:04:59.500
acquire enough skills to be able to solve a big enough problem to pay you what you really
01:05:05.560
So right now, like I can pay a company, you know, they'll pay me 30 to 50 K to go sit
01:05:10.280
there for four hours to look at their fucking YouTube ads.
01:05:12.200
But when I started, they'd pay me $50 because that's what I was worth.
01:05:18.020
So the second tier to that is be grossly honest with yourself.
01:05:21.060
We have a very bad tendency as entrepreneurs to rational lies.
01:05:25.980
We lie to ourselves about where we at, what's happening, how good we are.
01:05:35.780
And too many people come in with that arrogant of like, you're so good.
01:05:38.660
It's like, dude, if you were so good, you wouldn't have the problems that you fucking
01:05:43.620
And then once you're honest with yourself, you realize, Hey, score yourself.
01:05:48.480
Then you seek out mentors or coaches, but not just in general, find somebody who's good
01:05:55.420
So for example, I have a different strategic coach than I do a spiritual coach.
01:06:03.520
You have to understand, like, usually everybody has one thing that they're fucking fantastic
01:06:09.020
And over time they'll have some other really good straights, but everybody has like their
01:06:13.360
My one hot sauce is that I can create a video to sell anything.
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It's a pretty good, it's a pretty good hot sauce to have though, bro.
01:06:21.740
But yeah, so everyone here, like, dude, find the right people to solve your problems.
01:06:25.280
Don't waste time trying to figure out shit yourself.
01:06:28.520
You think you're saving time, but you're really putting yourself out of business.
01:06:32.400
Well, dude, first of all, this has been one of my favorite podcasts.
01:06:38.340
I've had some cool guests, but like, like copywriting and marketing and branding and
01:06:46.760
Wait, let me touch on branding because you mentioned that shit earlier.
01:06:53.040
So for everyone listening, and if you haven't seen any of our video ads, we'll include a link
01:06:59.420
But then a lot of people say, Billy, why do you go all out on these video ads?
01:07:02.880
Because then you have people like Ty who are like, dude, I'm killing it just on my cell
01:07:05.620
Because when we go all out and I run a pirate ship for a video or I do a parody of the wolf of paid
01:07:10.600
advertiser, the wolf of Wall Street, people fucking remember us.
01:07:14.840
So I can do all the ads of the world that are just whatever.
01:07:17.460
For you guys that might not know, that's called branding.
01:07:21.820
And direct response is running an ad with a, desiring a direct response of the sale.
01:07:31.180
I want you to buy this now, click here, buy this shit.
01:07:35.020
Branding is Billy dancing around with his team to where people walk up in the restaurant
01:07:39.900
like they did yesterday and say, hey dude, I fucking love you.
01:07:44.460
Like, so if all of you want to be remembered, you want to be impacted.
01:07:46.600
I know there's a lot of people who are into coaching.
01:07:48.300
Remember the kid that came in yesterday, Julius, I think his name was, he came up and
01:07:53.180
he said, bro, he actually hit me up in the bathroom.
01:08:01.220
Do you remember what he told us he's going to do?
01:08:05.780
And guess what's going to happen whenever he decides he wants to get good at marketing
01:08:12.400
So branding, just because it doesn't sell something today, still creates customers long
01:08:21.200
And if you want to be in business a long time, that's always a good strategy.
01:08:24.440
Other thing with being remembered, a quick power tip, just YouTube ads are such a good
01:08:27.740
way to do it because they can't be skipped and it's the sole focus.
01:08:30.100
When you do a video ad on Facebook, there's so many distractions around, but on YouTube,
01:08:35.520
So from a brand recognition, that has been bigger for us than anything.
01:08:39.000
Our ads have been seen like 200 million times on YouTube.
01:08:41.880
So virtually every time I'm out, I get recognized because of YouTube.
01:08:44.640
So if you're not spending money on YouTube ads or building your brand on YouTube ads, I'm
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fucking telling you to do it because you're leaving money on the table.
01:08:53.200
We do have to take a moment to say, if you want to see some of Billie Jean's incredible
01:08:57.440
ads, go to your website or wherever you prefer.
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Dude, I wouldn't have somebody sitting here if it wasn't great.
01:09:13.480
Because in the marketing and advertising branding space, I'm hugely critical.
01:09:28.720
I mean, honestly, if you guys haven't been to this office in St. Louis, man, I just want
01:09:33.080
to shout you out for a second and commend you guys.
01:09:37.340
I mean, fuck, you walk in here and I'm just like, these motherfuckers really got it going
01:09:41.640
There's system, there's process, there's culture.
01:09:49.400
Very blessed with great, as much as I say, oh, we made everybody, the one thing that you
01:09:57.640
And we've been blessed to have a fuckload of good-hearted people in this office.
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