REAL AF with Andy Frisella - July 11, 2018


The Secrets of Successful Social Media Advertising, ft. Billy Gene Is Marketing, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO245


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 10 minutes

Words per Minute

219.94281

Word Count

15,460

Sentence Count

1,330

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

52


Summary

In this episode of The MFCEO Project, the CEO and his co-host, Vaughn, the Pastor of Disaster, Vaughn the Impaler, Vaughn Diesel, Jean-Claude Van Damme, and DJ God join me to talk about how to become a better CEO.


Transcript

00:00:00.400 I can stack them hundreds to the roof. I ain't stopping till they stack to the moon.
00:00:04.880 Without me, my family wouldn't have food. Anybody go against me gotta lose.
00:00:12.840 What is up, guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy, I'm your host, and I am the motherfucking CEO.
00:00:20.880 Guys, today we've got an awesome, awesome podcast, full-length, full-length feature, motion production.
00:00:27.160 Some of you guys are bitching to me about how I've been off my game for podcasting.
00:00:30.900 You know what? I fucking have. You know why? Because I don't just talk for the sake of talking.
00:00:34.460 I talk when I have something of value to say, which I would highly recommend for all of you as well.
00:00:39.620 There's nothing worse than people who just put out content that really serves no purpose.
00:00:44.000 So what I try to do, guys, is when I start to feel a little bit burnt and start to feel like I'm not delivering my best content,
00:00:52.280 I take some time away. It's nothing new if you've been a listener to the show.
00:00:56.320 So, by the way, this is free, so don't bitch about free. Don't be coming at me talking about how I'm fucking slacking.
00:01:03.680 I got a real fucking job, motherfucker. My job ain't to be popular on the internet.
00:01:07.760 I've got thousands of employees to look after, and I'm sorry, they come before the free content that I put out on the MFCEO Project.
00:01:15.080 Now, if this is your first time listening, yes, we are a business podcast.
00:01:21.000 Yes, we are also a personal development podcast. Yes, we are free, and yes, we are ad-free.
00:01:28.560 And the reason that we are ad-free, which I could make seven-plus figures a year doing ads on this show
00:01:33.620 because of the way that we've got it ranked, is because I like to keep it value-focused.
00:01:39.120 Now, in exchange for that, guys, I do have a fee, and my fee is not monetary. My fee is this.
00:01:45.140 If you love the show, if you got value out of the show, which you fucking will because we're great at what we do.
00:01:52.620 By the way, we're humble about it.
00:01:53.800 If you get those things, I would appreciate it if you would share the episode that you got the value from with your friends
00:02:04.480 because that's how we do this.
00:02:05.940 We're an organically driven show. We don't run ads. We don't have ads.
00:02:09.820 I don't run ads to promote the show. It's all organic, and it's all on you guys.
00:02:14.160 And we happen to have a pretty fucking great community that supports the show.
00:02:17.620 So if this is your first time listening, join the community, become a motherfucking CEO of yourself, and share the message.
00:02:27.300 Now, with that being said, I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Vaughn, the pastor of disaster, Vaughn the impaler, Vaughn Diesel, Jean-Claude Van Damme.
00:02:43.500 And in a few months, Vaughn Swole.
00:02:46.960 Vaughn Swole.
00:02:48.060 That's right.
00:02:49.200 DJ, DJ God to some of you.
00:02:51.800 By the way, we got an email from a new one.
00:02:54.720 You're looking a little more buff.
00:02:55.960 Thanks, just a little bit.
00:02:57.200 Yeah. No, I'm serious, dude.
00:02:58.440 Oh, I appreciate it.
00:02:58.860 I noticed it when I walked in.
00:02:59.920 I appreciate it.
00:03:00.680 I would tell you if you weren't.
00:03:02.540 No, I know that.
00:03:03.180 Tyler, you look like you've been slacking.
00:03:04.120 I know that.
00:03:05.200 Tyler's been slacking.
00:03:07.900 Vaughn's going to out-buff you, dude.
00:03:10.060 What are you going to do about that?
00:03:11.600 That's pretty humiliating if I do that.
00:03:14.440 I welcome that.
00:03:15.320 Yeah.
00:03:15.500 I think Vaughn's going to out-buff you, dude.
00:03:17.580 All right.
00:03:18.300 So, as I was saying, did you know that we got an email from a reporter from the New York
00:03:24.100 Times?
00:03:26.140 No, I didn't.
00:03:27.000 We did.
00:03:27.480 Well, I didn't.
00:03:28.180 How would I know if you didn't tell me?
00:03:29.500 Well, they wanted to know, she's apparently writing an article about how podcasting entrepreneurs
00:03:36.460 like yourself, who have massive influence, monetize your podcast.
00:03:41.340 And I said, well, we don't, actually.
00:03:44.180 Yeah.
00:03:44.320 So, what did she say?
00:03:46.820 Well, I'm waiting for her response, but I said, basically, in three years of giving out free
00:03:50.640 information, we literally, other than writing a series of children's books that are just
00:03:55.140 meant to impact the next generation, we literally have not advertised or monetized at all.
00:03:59.400 Well, there's two ways to look at this.
00:04:00.880 And this is actually going to be a great show to talk about this, but there's two ways to
00:04:05.440 look at this.
00:04:06.000 You could directly monetize something, or you could passively monetize something.
00:04:10.380 And you know what happens to people who listen to the show over the course of years and get
00:04:15.020 the value over the course of years?
00:04:16.520 They end up becoming customers of my other companies.
00:04:19.120 They end up buying First Form.
00:04:20.700 They end up supporting our tequila brand.
00:04:23.420 They end up doing things that we don't directly sell them to, but they end up becoming customers
00:04:29.240 in other ways.
00:04:29.800 And I would argue that that is far more valuable, which is another reason why I don't charge
00:04:36.520 for a lot of shit, than trying to monetize with 10 minutes of ads that are going to ignore
00:04:43.300 the fuck out of everybody.
00:04:44.900 That's the biggest complaint I hear of other people's podcasts.
00:04:47.380 They're like, dude, it used to be good, but now the first 20 minutes are just ads.
00:04:52.200 And most of these motherfuckers don't know how to read ads, or do a live read, or genuinely
00:04:56.320 promote something, and it just sounds stupid.
00:04:59.460 100%.
00:04:59.780 Yeah, it's not going to be us.
00:05:01.440 So, yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing what she has to say.
00:05:03.940 Yeah.
00:05:04.520 And then I'm going to send her a bunch of incriminating photos of you.
00:05:07.920 Good luck.
00:05:09.220 They're all out there.
00:05:11.060 So, anyway, we have an awesome guest for you guys today.
00:05:15.980 He's flew in from San Diego.
00:05:18.220 No, I live here.
00:05:19.040 I live here.
00:05:19.400 No, you are not the guest.
00:05:22.740 Well, I would wish you would move to San Diego and go away.
00:05:27.000 That's the truth.
00:05:31.060 You guys have probably seen him on the internet, and if you haven't, you will be seeing him.
00:05:35.780 Yesterday, he flew in.
00:05:37.200 We definitely drank a lot of tequila and a lot of beers for my birthday.
00:05:41.860 I got my buddy here.
00:05:43.080 Billy Gene is marketing.
00:05:44.600 What's up, dude?
00:05:45.700 Hey, thank you for having me.
00:05:46.800 First of all, let me jump in and just say I'm stealing a quote.
00:05:50.380 Don't bitch about free.
00:05:52.340 Fuck you.
00:05:53.080 Don't bitch about free.
00:05:54.560 I'm at home.
00:05:55.640 I'm at home is how I feel right now.
00:05:57.160 I feel calmed by that.
00:05:58.860 Bro, it's ridiculous.
00:06:01.780 The word entitlement can be used to describe so many different aspects of people, but when
00:06:06.400 you have somebody that's giving you shit of value for free and you're bitching about
00:06:10.120 it, you're pretty much a piece of shit.
00:06:12.180 Right.
00:06:12.580 That's it.
00:06:13.100 It's a fair.
00:06:13.820 Yeah.
00:06:14.520 So, remember that when you bitch about people's content.
00:06:18.440 Look, I'm not the only one that people ... I see it on everybody's videos.
00:06:21.600 They bitch about my shit and I'll be the first one to tell them, fuck if I don't care.
00:06:24.520 Right.
00:06:24.820 It's like, what are you doing?
00:06:27.360 Or they'll say, you know, like I see it, they'll say stuff to the other guys out there
00:06:32.020 who are doing a lot of free content, like Gary, and they'll say shit to them.
00:06:35.940 It's like, dude, you know what?
00:06:37.600 If you don't agree, that's one thing, but just because somebody's saying something the
00:06:42.440 way you don't like it and 90% of it you like, and then you're going to attack them
00:06:46.480 on the 10% because, you know, this or that.
00:06:49.320 Dude, fuck you.
00:06:50.200 There's people doing this shit free.
00:06:51.700 It's 100% entitlement.
00:06:53.160 Yeah.
00:06:53.320 It's kind of weird.
00:06:53.840 It's like, what do I owe you?
00:06:54.740 I don't know you.
00:06:55.780 It's kind of a weird phenomenon that it's really always the non-contributing zeros that are
00:07:00.360 the ones that are playing.
00:07:00.960 The talk shit.
00:07:01.580 The loudest truth.
00:07:02.340 Yeah.
00:07:03.160 That's the truth.
00:07:03.900 It really is weird.
00:07:04.540 Yeah.
00:07:05.360 So, before we get into what we want to talk about, dude, let's get into a little bit
00:07:11.140 of just let people know, you know, your background, your entrepreneur story, and just, you know,
00:07:17.000 kind of let people know what you're doing, you know, where you came from, what you're
00:07:19.220 doing now.
00:07:19.560 Sure.
00:07:19.820 For the sake of value, I hate spending a whole bunch of time on myself.
00:07:22.800 Yeah.
00:07:22.960 That's the fucking most boring shit.
00:07:24.580 Here's the bottom line.
00:07:25.800 This is more just edifying you.
00:07:28.480 Oh, there you go.
00:07:29.140 Yeah.
00:07:29.360 All right.
00:07:29.500 I'm great.
00:07:29.880 So, I'm the best in the world when it comes to using advertisements to turn clicks into
00:07:33.300 customers.
00:07:33.800 That's like what we say.
00:07:35.420 And simply, man, I went to college, University of San Diego, born and raised in San Diego.
00:07:39.720 I dropped out, and I didn't go to my last class.
00:07:42.920 And I was one class away, still am today, from getting my business degree.
00:07:45.960 I went to Cabo with my ex-girlfriend.
00:07:47.560 I started a mobile oil change company that went to shit.
00:07:50.340 I ended up in an online university where I was making 600 cold calls a day, asking people
00:07:54.260 to go to college, ironically, when I didn't finish it.
00:07:56.960 So, I was that hypocrite.
00:07:58.560 And then after that, I saw the power of the internet and how you could impact people with
00:08:03.140 these online courses.
00:08:04.300 And so, long story short, I ended up selling this online quit smoking program.
00:08:09.140 And at the time, I had no idea how to do it.
00:08:11.220 So, I tried call centers.
00:08:12.520 I tried cold calls.
00:08:13.140 I did everything under the sun that you can imagine.
00:08:14.720 Then I finally stumbled across this thing called Facebook ads.
00:08:17.400 And when I started advertising on Facebook, I made like one or two sales.
00:08:21.140 I still lost money, but I realized it was possible.
00:08:23.180 And it happened when I was asleep, and I got fucking obsessed.
00:08:25.300 I was living at my mom's house at the time.
00:08:27.500 I started running one ad.
00:08:28.440 Then I started to go to Craigslist and find companies who were looking for marketing people.
00:08:32.940 And I'd call them and say, look, instead of hiring a full-time employee, which is expensive,
00:08:36.320 pay me as a contractor.
00:08:37.840 And I just would fucking cold call people with the same script again and again.
00:08:40.500 And that's how I started to build up my business.
00:08:42.400 Fast forward, we started working with some of the largest franchises in the world.
00:08:45.780 A ton of them, like from your massage interviews or your Orange Theory Fitness to your Club
00:08:49.360 Pilates, like that whole fitness niche.
00:08:51.420 We worked with them.
00:08:52.200 And we did Facebook ads to bring them customers.
00:08:54.900 Also, too, the biggest thing about my career that I want everyone to understand is that
00:08:58.640 I didn't try and do an agency on purpose.
00:09:01.400 I just kind of knew about this Facebook stuff.
00:09:04.400 Dude, which is like the thing right now.
00:09:05.680 Like everybody's a fucking agency.
00:09:07.680 It's so annoying.
00:09:08.400 And none of them know what the fuck they're doing.
00:09:09.780 Dude, it's crazy.
00:09:10.600 And so for me, when I was at my mom's house, I didn't have any credibility.
00:09:14.380 So I told people, look, you don't have to pay me if you don't make money.
00:09:17.540 Yeah.
00:09:17.880 So I had to learn how to get them results, ROI.
00:09:20.840 So I never got into like the branding side at first.
00:09:23.720 It was all very simple.
00:09:24.900 You give me more money.
00:09:26.340 You give me money.
00:09:27.020 If you don't make more money, you don't pay me.
00:09:29.460 So I got really fucking good because I had to.
00:09:31.720 Right.
00:09:31.900 I got no money if I didn't win.
00:09:33.320 So I only could win.
00:09:34.340 And that's kind of how I am today.
00:09:35.500 Yeah.
00:09:35.980 Well, dude, that's the thing, though, is how many people are willing to learn something new
00:09:40.620 now by.
00:09:42.180 Dude, first of all, people just aren't willing to fucking go out and get their head beating anymore.
00:09:46.040 They're just not.
00:09:47.520 So and the other thing is, is, dude, how many people are willing to what we talk about on
00:09:51.620 the show all the time and what I live with my company?
00:09:54.420 We're probably the only company that I know of on earth that offers 110 percent money back
00:10:00.620 guarantee, which if you really wanted to, you could turn ordering first form supplements
00:10:05.200 and returning them into a career.
00:10:06.880 OK, it'd be a very low margin.
00:10:09.980 You'd be a dick.
00:10:10.460 But you could do it.
00:10:11.040 But you could do it.
00:10:12.080 And but the point is, is we stand behind our shit because we do the right thing.
00:10:15.740 And, dude, when you're willing to do that and you're willing to do it over the course
00:10:18.520 of time, guess what?
00:10:19.180 You're going to be one of the first major clients I got that was in the franchise.
00:10:22.420 He he called me and he was counseling the day he was going to pay.
00:10:25.120 He's like, honestly, I heard this Facebook stuff doesn't work like we can't do it.
00:10:28.660 So I sent him an email.
00:10:29.400 I was so desperate because I was depending on that money to pay my shit.
00:10:31.980 So I said, look, if you don't make money, I will triple what you're paying me.
00:10:35.800 He's like, well, you send that to me in an email.
00:10:37.120 So I was on the phone.
00:10:37.760 I said, stay right there.
00:10:38.400 I sent him an email that said, I'm going to triple what I pay you if I don't make you the money.
00:10:41.460 I got him 123 leads in one day, the most he's ever seen.
00:10:45.200 He called up six other people who had a location and that's how I started blowing up in the
00:10:48.900 franchises.
00:10:49.560 Dude, I got a funny story that's very similar to that.
00:10:53.820 Ryan Riggle, who works here at First Form now, he's one of our executives at First Form.
00:10:57.700 When I met him, he sold cable TV advertising, right?
00:11:03.180 And, dude, I couldn't afford anything because we weren't making any money.
00:11:06.640 Um, so he called on me for like two years straight, like literally got to the point.
00:11:14.480 It was, it was the point where like he got annoying and then I just accepted that he wasn't
00:11:19.320 going to quit.
00:11:20.240 And so he just showed up, we'd hang out and then he would leave because I couldn't do any
00:11:24.260 business because I couldn't afford it.
00:11:25.340 So it was like, like he called on me, then he just kept, kept showing up and I was annoyed.
00:11:31.120 Like I'd, I'd see him in the store and I would like not go in the store cause he was in
00:11:34.800 there even when Andy wasn't in there.
00:11:37.540 It was fucking funny.
00:11:38.440 Yeah.
00:11:38.580 And then, uh, next girlfriend.
00:11:40.380 Yeah.
00:11:40.560 Right, dude.
00:11:41.060 And then it got to the point where I just ignored him cause he's going to be in there.
00:11:44.580 And then finally, like we started, I'm like, so dude, look, yo, but that's it.
00:11:48.160 Yeah.
00:11:48.340 That persistence is it.
00:11:49.380 That's what no one has anymore.
00:11:50.640 When they hear no, you just fucking quit.
00:11:52.180 Yeah.
00:11:52.480 Like that's where the words are.
00:11:53.680 This was the, this was the dude, wait till I tell you what happened.
00:11:58.000 So he sold the TV advertising and, and we were going to do a radio campaign.
00:12:02.680 And he's like, all right, well, and he thought about it like this.
00:12:05.280 Well, if I could help them become successful on radio, even though I'm not making anything
00:12:09.140 though, I, he's, I'm going to earn his trust and we'll move forward.
00:12:13.540 What makes me money, obviously.
00:12:15.320 Yeah.
00:12:15.620 So he helped us with this radio thing.
00:12:17.480 And he, I remember him telling me like, dude, it was like, I don't know.
00:12:21.980 It was like four grand a week.
00:12:23.460 Okay.
00:12:23.900 And we spend a hundred grand a week now.
00:12:25.960 So, um, but dude, we didn't have four grand a week.
00:12:29.320 Like fucking, it meant like it was a difference between us eating and not eating.
00:12:32.940 Right.
00:12:33.260 So he's like, look, man, he's like, you gotta, you gotta stick with this for 12 weeks.
00:12:38.000 Otherwise it's not going to work.
00:12:39.700 So he, I got me to agree to that.
00:12:42.360 It's a big ass commitment at the time.
00:12:43.920 Right.
00:12:44.320 Huge deal.
00:12:45.400 So eight weeks in nine weeks in, dude, we literally had not gone up at all in sales,
00:12:50.620 like zero fucking dollars.
00:12:52.440 And I'm freaking the fuck out.
00:12:53.920 I'm like, Holy fuck, dude.
00:12:55.020 I mean, we just spent all this money.
00:12:57.220 We're getting zero results.
00:12:58.880 And, and previous to this, I've been in business for like 10 years.
00:13:02.900 Okay.
00:13:03.780 And I had started and stopped advertising so many times because I never learned what I
00:13:09.060 was about to learn now.
00:13:10.380 And, and so he's like, dude, look, he's like, if you don't, if you're, if your business
00:13:19.680 doesn't, if this doesn't work out after 12 weeks, I'll give you your money back.
00:13:23.460 And I'm like, I like him.
00:13:25.740 I'm like, how the fuck is this guy going to give me his money back?
00:13:28.040 So I'm like, all right.
00:13:29.400 And he, dude, clearly I, you know, he didn't have the money to give me back.
00:13:33.340 I knew this.
00:13:34.060 I know this now.
00:13:34.660 I didn't know it at the time.
00:13:36.240 And he was just like, he just was trying to get me to calm down.
00:13:40.140 Well, dude, like 10 weeks in, uh, we, our business went up a little dude, uh, literally
00:13:45.880 on week 13, our business was double what it was on day one.
00:13:48.920 No shit.
00:13:50.280 That's Bravo.
00:13:50.900 Yeah.
00:13:51.080 So now we went into not only that, but like he, we started buying ads from him for cable
00:14:00.920 where he started getting paid.
00:14:01.880 We can, their number one, his number one customer.
00:14:04.020 And then after a few more years, I just fucking hired him.
00:14:07.660 And now he, like, he has a way better career here than he had there.
00:14:11.680 And it was all because he was willing to stand behind the advice that he was giving.
00:14:16.540 You know, the problem that we have right now is that we have these fucking quote unquote
00:14:20.520 entrepreneurs teaching people how to open digital ad agencies because nobody knows how
00:14:25.980 to market.
00:14:26.580 And that's true.
00:14:27.540 Nobody does know how to market.
00:14:29.040 It's a problem.
00:14:29.440 But the answer isn't for you to go out and start a digital online agency when you don't
00:14:34.020 know what the fuck you're doing either.
00:14:35.440 That's just out of integrity.
00:14:36.740 That's, I was going to say, you said something very crucial that a lot of people do not understand.
00:14:40.100 And you're like, I didn't set out to make an agency.
00:14:42.140 You just got good at a particular set of skills and then evolved from there.
00:14:46.340 See, people spend so much time chasing the money.
00:14:48.680 But if you fucking chase solving the problem, the money flies.
00:14:52.240 Dude, it comes in boatloads because you're solving the problem better than anybody.
00:14:57.960 And dude, that's a huge problem right now because there is a huge need for digital agency
00:15:04.200 quote unquote experts.
00:15:06.320 But the problem is, is that none of them are experts.
00:15:09.120 And it comes down to unwillingness.
00:15:11.960 So think about this.
00:15:13.820 Doctors, 10 years to get their degree.
00:15:16.320 Then they'll do another two years in residency.
00:15:18.020 Attorneys, six years in school, seven, eight years when they can practice all that.
00:15:22.260 Entrepreneurs, one fucking course for 300 bucks online.
00:15:25.120 They think they're a fucking professional.
00:15:26.500 It's the craziest year ever.
00:15:27.880 They're going to come in and tell someone who's a bit, dude, I had these motherfuckers
00:15:30.780 call on me.
00:15:31.540 They don't even know my background.
00:15:33.060 Like I started in direct response.
00:15:35.100 I'm a copywriter by fucking trade.
00:15:37.460 Okay.
00:15:37.740 I started selling fucking fix your credit books that I wrote when I was 17 years old
00:15:43.700 in a newspaper.
00:15:44.580 All right.
00:15:45.120 So I've been writing copy for 20 fucking years and I got these motherfuckers sending
00:15:49.840 me emails saying, Hey, I can help you with your digital ads.
00:15:54.340 Motherfucker.
00:15:54.740 Motherfucker, we spent a hundred grand a day on Facebook.
00:15:56.480 You can't help me with shit.
00:15:58.140 Fuck you.
00:15:59.160 Go learn something.
00:16:00.140 You know what I mean?
00:16:00.780 It's real though.
00:16:01.400 But so, and dude, this is why, this is why I wanted to have you on the show because you're
00:16:07.620 one of the, you're one of the people that has truly become a real expert in this space,
00:16:14.440 which is awesome for you because the space is so wide open right now.
00:16:18.680 It's really good timing, man.
00:16:19.360 Yeah, bro.
00:16:19.820 And the thing is, is like, dude, you're, you're combining so many of these different
00:16:25.060 elements that I've always been interested in because I love copywriting and I love direct
00:16:29.260 response and I love branding, which by the way, you need all three.
00:16:32.220 But what you've done is you've taken guys who, dude, the Frank Kearns of the world, the guys
00:16:40.240 who are, you know, Craig Clemens, these dudes who have like, yes, they've, you know, even
00:16:45.280 Dean Graziosi, guys who have taken copywriting and turned it into billions of dollars.
00:16:51.760 And what you've done is you've taken it and you've applied it to what the tools we have
00:16:56.940 now, which is awesome.
00:16:58.440 And that's the thing that's changed.
00:16:59.980 And what a lot of people aren't realizing is look, business is always going to be the
00:17:03.220 same, right?
00:17:03.840 You put a message in front of somebody, you ask them if they want to buy some shit, you
00:17:07.140 keep them happy.
00:17:07.720 You keep them coming back.
00:17:08.580 Yeah.
00:17:08.980 But the coming back part is the part that none of these motherfuckers get.
00:17:11.780 No one's getting it.
00:17:12.500 That's how you stay in business and build a real brand that lasts forever.
00:17:14.840 But the biggest thing that I see is that the ABC, the CBS, the TV stations, the radio,
00:17:21.380 the billboards have all switched to Facebook, Instagram, YouTube now.
00:17:25.060 But the reason why somebody picks up a newspaper was different than why somebody goes into social
00:17:29.640 media today.
00:17:30.560 And that's to be entertained.
00:17:32.120 You solely go there because you're sitting there bored.
00:17:34.460 You're fucking listening to this podcast.
00:17:35.480 You have your phone up.
00:17:36.340 You're seeing what your friends are doing.
00:17:38.100 Therefore, if that's why everyone's there, you have to play by the rules.
00:17:41.560 Right.
00:17:41.740 You can't just come there and say, buy my stuff, buy my stuff, buy my stuff.
00:17:44.760 Which is what everybody does.
00:17:46.460 It's so good.
00:17:47.440 It's crazy.
00:17:48.280 Dude, like these motherfuckers in the fitness industry, like every fucking day I see them.
00:17:53.340 And dude, you can always tell people who don't know what the fuck they're doing by how often
00:17:58.000 they run a sale.
00:17:59.080 Because if their main strategy is to run a sale, that means they don't know what the
00:18:03.680 fuck they're doing.
00:18:04.240 Yep.
00:18:05.220 I mean, you-
00:18:05.860 A thousand percent.
00:18:06.380 Yeah.
00:18:06.740 Like, dude, they never run a fucking sale, by the way.
00:18:08.680 And you kill your margins.
00:18:09.420 Yeah.
00:18:09.740 Like, it's just, and then your customer sits there and they will not buy regular because
00:18:13.020 they know you're about to have a sale and it fucks your whole shit up.
00:18:15.420 It's the dumbest shit I've, and all I see from these fitness motherfuckers, and a
00:18:20.020 lot of them are my friends, but I try to tell them this shit and they're just like, no,
00:18:23.160 it works.
00:18:24.020 I'm like, you don't think it works because you don't realize how well it would work if
00:18:27.560 you didn't do it.
00:18:28.000 You wouldn't be doing it, yeah.
00:18:29.320 But like, dude, they're getting on Facebook or Instagram every fucking day.
00:18:34.120 Dude, today's special is this.
00:18:36.780 Today's deal is this.
00:18:38.140 Buy my shit today.
00:18:39.000 67% off.
00:18:39.480 Yeah.
00:18:40.180 77% off today.
00:18:42.000 Well, what's it going to be tomorrow?
00:18:43.200 78%?
00:18:44.140 So guess what I'm going to wait, you know?
00:18:45.880 And like, dude, they're training their customers to only buy when they're running a sale, which
00:18:51.540 means you're taking your margin, which would be X, and you're dividing it into fucking by
00:18:58.460 three, and now you're operating your entire company on a margin that doesn't make sense
00:19:02.420 mathematically.
00:19:02.880 See, and I'm going to give your audience something real tactical.
00:19:05.340 So if you guys are listening at home right now, I'm going to give you like the simplest
00:19:07.580 exercise that will fucking allow your business to grow sales without discounting shit.
00:19:11.900 And all you have to do is you take a blank piece of paper, okay?
00:19:13.980 And you think about who your ideal customer is, the person you want to be your customer.
00:19:18.100 Then I want you to draw a giant capital T on that piece of paper.
00:19:21.820 On the left-hand side, I want you to write the word problem.
00:19:24.400 On the right-hand side, I want you to write the word solution.
00:19:27.500 Then I want you to write the top five problems that your potential customer is facing.
00:19:32.480 Then I want you to create a video solving each one of those problems.
00:19:36.420 And at the end of the video, ask them to fucking buy.
00:19:39.820 Super simple formula.
00:19:40.940 I'm telling you, it works every single time in every single industry.
00:19:43.980 Because then they're buying because they want the solution, not because it's a discount
00:19:48.220 and I might as well grab it.
00:19:49.380 Then they don't even end up using the product or service anyway.
00:19:51.520 Dude, they certainly aren't going to believe in it.
00:19:53.440 No way.
00:19:53.700 They certainly aren't going to promote it for you.
00:19:55.420 They aren't going to post it on Facebook.
00:19:56.960 They're not going to tell their fucking friends.
00:19:58.960 You know why?
00:19:59.960 Because nobody feels good about buying something on a discount other to themselves.
00:20:04.040 People don't brag about, oh, dude, I bought this fucking this for this and it was
00:20:08.420 this percent off.
00:20:09.260 That's what people that have very little money do.
00:20:12.660 The people who are going to be your customers for life, who are going to promote your business,
00:20:16.920 they're people who are going to be proud to pay the price for your product because it
00:20:22.140 legitimately helps them.
00:20:24.300 Hell yeah.
00:20:24.760 You know what I mean?
00:20:25.240 That's for sure.
00:20:25.500 And then they brag about it.
00:20:26.680 Yeah.
00:20:26.940 So now you're harnessing the power of the tools that we have, aka social media, to your
00:20:32.460 advantage.
00:20:33.060 Yep.
00:20:33.360 You see what I mean?
00:20:33.940 And in addition to that, if I ask you guys right now, why do people buy?
00:20:37.600 People will answer, because they like you.
00:20:39.540 Yeah.
00:20:39.780 But for some reason, when we go online, we forget about being liked.
00:20:42.920 Right.
00:20:43.060 That's still necessary.
00:20:44.180 That's still the reason why people want to buy.
00:20:45.620 So I always tell people, the reason why we, as an agency, for the last four years, every
00:20:50.500 single client we've worked with, we've required them to use video ads.
00:20:54.100 And if they don't use video ads, we will not work with them.
00:20:56.720 Because they keep selling their product service, but they forget to sell themselves.
00:21:00.100 And so I say, people, I say, look at your sales process.
00:21:02.540 And then I want you to evaluate and ask yourself this one question.
00:21:04.980 At what point in the sales process do we make the customer laugh or smile?
00:21:10.620 And if every single step of that process, when you're touching a customer, you're not doing
00:21:13.900 those two things, you're missing an opportunity to create those raving fans that you're talking
00:21:17.160 about that keep coming back again and again and again.
00:21:19.280 It's something people don't think about, but it's so important.
00:21:21.180 Well, dude, so your formula, it's very simple, but it's fucking brilliant.
00:21:25.160 Yeah.
00:21:25.400 And the most brilliant things in the world happen to also be simple.
00:21:29.120 Always.
00:21:29.500 Because no one could actually judge something as brilliant if they can't fucking understand
00:21:32.620 it.
00:21:32.960 All right?
00:21:33.820 So you have entertain, educate, and execute is your three main points.
00:21:37.620 My world.
00:21:37.860 Now, you touched on entertaining.
00:21:39.860 What about the guy?
00:21:41.340 What about the, like, dude, I've been fortunate.
00:21:43.540 And I am not blessed with a good personality.
00:21:45.960 Believe me.
00:21:47.020 I have had to develop it.
00:21:48.620 All right?
00:21:49.100 I believe you.
00:21:50.000 Yeah.
00:21:50.620 Like, I'm not naturally charismatic.
00:21:53.540 Like, people think that I am, but I'm not.
00:21:55.280 I'm an introvert.
00:21:56.100 And I don't really fucking like people.
00:21:57.680 And that's the truth.
00:21:58.580 So I've had to work really hard at developing a personality for audio and video because of
00:22:07.240 the entertainment aspect.
00:22:08.200 Now, you take this so much further than anybody else is right now.
00:22:12.620 But let's talk about the guy who, let's say, isn't good.
00:22:17.940 He's, I don't have the personality.
00:22:19.920 I'm not somebody who's good on camera.
00:22:22.260 Right.
00:22:22.720 I'm holding up my quote fingers here.
00:22:24.300 Well, I'd say number one with what you just said is you realize something that nobody realizes,
00:22:29.880 and that's entertainment is not a choice.
00:22:32.160 It's required if you want to succeed.
00:22:33.780 Right?
00:22:33.940 So the first thing is owning the fact that you saying to yourself, well, I'm just not
00:22:37.580 that personality, you're fucked, and just stop doing business, and that's fine.
00:22:40.480 But for entertainment, it doesn't always have to be about you.
00:22:43.100 So if you guys are, again, if you listen to this whole podcast, you should have a piece
00:22:45.660 of paper and a pinout.
00:22:46.600 The other three things I'll give you are these.
00:22:48.700 Number one is props.
00:22:50.140 Number two is music.
00:22:51.820 And number three is environment.
00:22:53.760 Okay?
00:22:54.200 So regardless if you're boring as shit or you think yourself is boring, everybody can buy
00:22:57.720 a prop.
00:22:58.380 So if you go to Amazon and look for oversized or really small anything, it's a great way to
00:23:03.140 grab people's attention.
00:23:03.940 A giant card.
00:23:04.960 Have you ever seen a giant card?
00:23:06.440 A giant set of flyers?
00:23:07.300 A giant anything?
00:23:07.840 A giant shoe?
00:23:08.640 Whatever industry, whatever your customer is looking for.
00:23:11.020 A midget.
00:23:11.760 Like get something oversized and do that.
00:23:14.060 So find props.
00:23:14.940 You can get them on Amazon.
00:23:15.840 They'll ship them.
00:23:16.480 Use cash cannons.
00:23:17.400 You can use all kinds of shit.
00:23:18.400 Okay?
00:23:18.880 Next is music.
00:23:20.080 So there's two websites that we love for this.
00:23:22.060 Audiojungle.net and artlist.io.
00:23:25.700 A-R-T-L-I-S-T dot I-O.
00:23:28.220 Those are websites where you can search for music by emotion.
00:23:31.720 So you can type in angry.
00:23:33.940 You can type in sad.
00:23:35.500 Oh, that's cool.
00:23:36.320 So whatever the tone of your video is, again, if you're not the funny guy-
00:23:40.400 Save you fucking hours of time.
00:23:41.780 Oh my God.
00:23:42.520 And here's the thing.
00:23:43.240 There's $7 to use a song.
00:23:45.220 Yeah.
00:23:45.380 And you can actually legally use them on social media when you're advertising so you don't
00:23:49.200 have to worry about your ad being flat.
00:23:50.920 And then the third thing is environment.
00:23:52.520 Go somewhere weird that people don't typically see.
00:23:55.320 It doesn't cost you anywhere to fucking walk somewhere or Uber somewhere.
00:23:58.560 Maybe it's only a couple bucks.
00:23:59.780 Do it on top of a mountain.
00:24:00.920 Do it underwater.
00:24:01.760 There's underwater cameras.
00:24:02.960 Do something that people are going to have to watch because if you don't grab someone's
00:24:06.340 attention in the first five seconds in social media-
00:24:08.380 It's over.
00:24:08.600 You lose every time.
00:24:09.200 Yeah.
00:24:09.680 It's over.
00:24:09.860 That's it.
00:24:10.060 So, dude, and here's something I want to add to this, and I've said this before on some
00:24:15.400 of the other podcasts.
00:24:18.020 Because of the way you talked about the rules have changed, okay?
00:24:22.260 We have different tools that have different rules.
00:24:25.320 Now, whereas you go to business school right now, they're going to talk to you about the
00:24:30.500 importance of your logo and your branding and this and that and this.
00:24:35.300 Motherfucker, people are more connected than they ever have been in the history of
00:24:40.040 earth.
00:24:40.920 People are not buying from a corporate logo anymore.
00:24:43.940 In fact, they want the opposite of that.
00:24:46.700 They want to see who's behind the logo.
00:24:49.340 They want to see the person step outside of behind the logo and become the personality
00:24:55.160 and that's who they want to buy from.
00:24:56.680 Dude, it's the same reason why, like, Progressive, they brought Flo in, you know, the insurance
00:25:01.060 check?
00:25:01.280 Because they had to put a person to it.
00:25:02.380 But this is why you're seeing all the little companies chip away at these, like, yes, there's
00:25:06.740 these huge companies right now that are still doing well, but they are not doing as well
00:25:10.120 as they were five years ago because all these little guys have figured out something that
00:25:15.340 they had before, which was a liability, which was this.
00:25:19.220 They are small.
00:25:20.420 They are people.
00:25:21.200 And if people want to buy from people and can see the people they buy from, they will
00:25:25.760 go for that business or that product every time over the big corporate giants of the
00:25:32.560 past.
00:25:33.360 So what you think is a liability, you know, I'm not big enough, I don't have the funds,
00:25:38.720 I don't have this, I don't have that, is actually a tremendous advantage that the big
00:25:42.840 companies can't fake because they're too big.
00:25:45.200 You know, so it's a huge part of just, you know, understanding the dynamic of the rules
00:25:51.380 is like the things that you think, oh, I can't afford to run this ad or I can't afford
00:25:55.640 to do this or I can't afford to make these videos.
00:25:58.060 Dude, the fact that you can't afford that is actually your biggest advantage against them.
00:26:02.740 Yeah.
00:26:02.880 And in addition to that, there's a lot of ways to get around the affording part.
00:26:06.160 Like when you just told that story, you said it was going to cost me four grand a week
00:26:08.860 to run this billboard ad.
00:26:09.780 For a lot of people, that's like, what the fuck?
00:26:11.420 Like today you can run an ad on Facebook for $5 a day.
00:26:15.680 Dude, stop buying your fucking Starbucks and now you have the time and the money.
00:26:18.940 It's changed how companies can grow.
00:26:20.320 Think about this.
00:26:21.740 So five, six years ago before social media really got to where you could do what we're
00:26:27.000 talking about, maybe seven years ago now, we have a franchise company, right?
00:26:32.720 So for us to, let's go to, to open our brick and mortar retail stores in let's say Chicago,
00:26:39.620 one of the biggest metropolitan areas.
00:26:42.260 You have to think about this.
00:26:44.180 What would it cost before the new, before the new way of advertising, the new way of
00:26:49.120 marketing, which is Facebook and YouTube and social Instagram, podcasting, all this other
00:26:54.340 shit that a lot of it's free.
00:26:55.720 Yeah.
00:26:56.140 If, if it's not free, you can highly target it down to where you're actually getting your
00:26:59.560 best customers for not much money.
00:27:01.220 But before that, if we wanted to go to Chicago for me to cover the entire area, think of
00:27:09.980 what it would cost me to buy radio, television, billboards in an area like that.
00:27:15.700 We, our company simply could not afford to go there and do that.
00:27:19.720 It'd be impossible.
00:27:20.320 Billboards in San Diego.
00:27:21.420 So I did as an experiment, like I'm a social guy, but I desk with all kinds of advertising.
00:27:25.560 Yeah.
00:27:25.740 It's like 36,000 bucks for four billboards for three weeks.
00:27:29.380 Yeah.
00:27:29.860 It's insane.
00:27:30.240 That's what it costs.
00:27:30.840 Yeah.
00:27:31.640 For fucking four billboards.
00:27:33.040 Yeah.
00:27:33.520 It's insane, dude.
00:27:34.660 And, and, but, but the limiting factor of growth right now, even for companies that
00:27:40.420 are brick and mortar.
00:27:41.140 And by the way, a lot of people say, Oh, brick and mortar is dead.
00:27:43.240 No, it's not.
00:27:43.820 It's not the motherfuckers.
00:27:45.020 You just don't know how to fucking market properly with the new tools.
00:27:48.960 Brick.
00:27:49.500 People still want to buy from motherfucking people.
00:27:51.600 People, they come in our stores every fucking day, see our people who, by the way, they
00:27:58.060 entertain, they educate and they equip, which is funny because we use equip instead of, instead
00:28:04.060 of execute, because we want people to leave with the tools they need to get the result.
00:28:07.260 Right.
00:28:07.620 So, um, but people still want that connection, man.
00:28:12.300 And you have some of these fucking experts right now.
00:28:14.540 Oh, brick and mortar is dead.
00:28:15.560 No, it isn't.
00:28:16.200 No, it'll never be dead.
00:28:17.560 It'll never fucking be dead.
00:28:18.820 Billy Jean, I have a followup question for you.
00:28:20.780 You said, uh, props, music and environment.
00:28:24.260 And with music, you talked about like connecting with the right emotion.
00:28:27.580 Yep.
00:28:27.860 So for environment in your experience, have you found that there's, should there always
00:28:32.640 be a consistency?
00:28:33.560 Like, let's say you're, you're, you're presenting something like it's an information product.
00:28:37.100 It's education.
00:28:38.240 Should the environment necessarily be consistent?
00:28:40.700 Like, like, should you choose a library or a classroom or is it better to actually switch
00:28:46.860 things up?
00:28:47.560 You gotta remember, we're talking about two different things.
00:28:49.920 You're talking, we're, we're talking about marketing.
00:28:54.240 You're talking about the actual product.
00:28:57.260 Well, yes and no.
00:28:58.360 I mean, I guess I'm thinking about like, if you're buying, if you're trying to pitch some,
00:29:02.640 something that's maybe helping people be smarter and you're creating an ad for that,
00:29:06.260 right?
00:29:06.560 Like, I mean, would you personally record that ad in an environment that sort of calls to
00:29:12.220 mind smarts or is that?
00:29:13.500 I would test both.
00:29:14.960 So there's a school of thought where when you run an ad and let's say like we're going
00:29:18.720 after people in fitness.
00:29:19.900 Well, if there's an ad in a gym, they're probably going to stop and look the first five seconds
00:29:23.680 because that's what they're used to saying.
00:29:24.900 That's the language that they speak.
00:29:26.100 But at the same time, there's little things that you can do to grab attention in that
00:29:31.020 same environment, like start below the camera.
00:29:33.480 So for example, one of our best performing ads is literally I crouch down and I just fucking
00:29:38.080 pop up and go, yo, what's up?
00:29:39.640 And so, and like, here's a huge, huge tip.
00:29:42.020 Look, we live in a day and age where everybody fucking knows they're being advertised to.
00:29:46.100 Fucking customers are smart.
00:29:47.280 They're not dumb.
00:29:48.080 Right.
00:29:48.320 So please stop.
00:29:49.860 Try to be slick.
00:29:50.740 Try to be fucking slick.
00:29:51.860 And break down the fourth wall.
00:29:54.180 So like almost every ad I do for like our company, when I'm trying to reach entrepreneurs,
00:29:57.940 I literally say, hey, hey, hey, hey, you're watching this ad on YouTube right now.
00:30:03.240 And I know you were looking at cat videos, whatever the fuck else you were doing, but
00:30:06.060 I got something important to say, but actually acknowledging them and saying it's cool.
00:30:10.640 It's an ad.
00:30:11.540 It's amazing.
00:30:12.940 Okay.
00:30:13.220 And dude, which also, by the way, builds one of the most important concepts to you retaining
00:30:19.340 the customer past the sale, which is trust.
00:30:22.380 Okay.
00:30:22.900 Amen.
00:30:23.160 So what you're doing by doing that is you are, you are making them trust you.
00:30:28.160 They say, hey, this motherfucker is telling me the truth.
00:30:30.700 Exactly.
00:30:31.020 Okay.
00:30:31.160 So they might not say, oh, I trust this guy a hundred percent the first time, but you're
00:30:34.940 planting the right seeds.
00:30:35.840 At least he's talking to me and not fucking pretending like talking around me on some
00:30:38.740 ninja shit.
00:30:39.260 And dude, how, I, I, I asked this question a lot when I speak, I said, how many of you,
00:30:43.560 how many of you people raise your hand if you know when you're getting advertised to
00:30:46.940 and they all raised their hand.
00:30:48.060 I said, okay, what makes you so fucking smart that you think you could fucking advertise
00:30:52.320 and people aren't going to know you're advertising to them?
00:30:54.600 You know what I'm saying?
00:30:55.740 It's real.
00:30:56.220 Every motherfucker raised their hand in the room.
00:30:58.180 Everyone, you know?
00:30:59.520 So dude, like be real, be genuine.
00:31:03.220 Yeah.
00:31:03.740 It's a crazy secret, but it's real.
00:31:06.120 I was going to say that reminds me of when you were in Miami for Gary V's event and you
00:31:09.600 were talking to the insurance.
00:31:11.080 Take your fucking face off your motherfucking card.
00:31:14.440 No one gives a fuck what you look like.
00:31:16.500 Wait.
00:31:16.620 Hey, my, my, my favorite example of that is real estate agents.
00:31:20.240 They all have the same fucking LinkedIn picture like this.
00:31:22.500 I went on about this every fucking time.
00:31:24.400 I went on about this for 30 fuck.
00:31:26.660 You made them raise their hands too, didn't you?
00:31:28.420 I go, how many of you motherfuckers have your face on your business card or on the side of
00:31:32.460 your car or on your, on your billboard?
00:31:35.020 And every motherfucker raised your hand.
00:31:37.020 I said, I said, why do you do that?
00:31:39.480 And not that none of them could answer.
00:31:41.140 Right.
00:31:41.700 The only person did it.
00:31:42.780 Cause that person did it.
00:31:43.740 Exactly.
00:31:44.180 You're only doing it because other people did it.
00:31:46.340 And that doesn't make it a good reason.
00:31:47.780 And dude, I went on for 30 minutes about it.
00:31:52.780 Gary, after the thing, he was like, that was fucking funny.
00:31:56.380 But dude, it's just like, stop doing shit for, for, because other people do it.
00:32:00.920 Because you know what?
00:32:01.680 All those other motherfuckers, they don't know what they're doing either.
00:32:03.660 And by doing things just because other people do them, you're stealing from you the opportunity
00:32:10.840 to actually learn how this shit works.
00:32:13.840 Yeah.
00:32:14.080 And I want to parlay, like, based on what you guys were saying right there, I think a lot
00:32:18.280 of people aren't to themselves or aren't genuine or put up that corporate thing because
00:32:21.860 they believe the way to get trusted by the potential customer is by doing the things you
00:32:27.560 kind of see on TV.
00:32:28.680 Yeah.
00:32:28.880 But the only way to get trust in today's age is to be fucking honest.
00:32:31.860 Now, some people say, well, the truth is I still live at my mom's house and blah, blah,
00:32:34.760 blah, blah, blah.
00:32:35.260 Look, people respect the fucking journey.
00:32:38.060 Yeah.
00:32:38.220 If you tell them where you're at and say, this is where I am today, they will fucking buy.
00:32:43.300 They will stand by you.
00:32:44.120 They will support you.
00:32:44.820 They will root for you.
00:32:45.620 You mean they'll actually root for you instead of you going out and standing in front of someone
00:32:51.520 else's fucking Lambo and their private jet.
00:32:55.180 Like, dude.
00:32:56.220 It's crazy.
00:32:56.740 Yeah.
00:32:56.920 I've got a course for that, by the way.
00:32:58.820 So you, you mentioned this.
00:33:01.860 Um, and one of the, one of the, so I have a three part process to customer loyalty and
00:33:07.320 it's educate, trust, loyalty.
00:33:09.500 All right.
00:33:09.920 So the first thing you can do to get someone to trust you is to educate them on something
00:33:14.180 that is the truth.
00:33:15.660 Then they go out in the real world.
00:33:16.920 They see it's truth.
00:33:17.500 They come back.
00:33:18.120 Right.
00:33:18.420 They, they trust you a little bit.
00:33:19.480 And that process between education, trust might happen 10 times.
00:33:23.560 It might happen two times.
00:33:24.480 It might happen a hundred times, but eventually they're going to stop questioning if you're
00:33:29.160 telling the truth and they're going to become loyal.
00:33:31.340 Yeah.
00:33:31.560 All right.
00:33:31.940 So the, your second part of your process after the entertainment aspect is to educate.
00:33:37.020 Yeah.
00:33:37.280 So, which guys, the reason loyalty and trust is so important is because after we sell them
00:33:42.860 the first time, we got to keep them.
00:33:46.140 Yeah.
00:33:46.360 All right.
00:33:46.660 So the, I love this about your processes because the educating part, um, builds the trust in
00:33:53.540 the process.
00:33:54.280 And when a lot of people, you guys aren't realizing is that, you know, 10 times more than you think,
00:34:00.500 you know, I think sometimes we own worst credit.
00:34:03.160 Oh my God.
00:34:03.840 We're always comparing ourselves to people.
00:34:05.340 It's imposter syndrome shit.
00:34:06.420 A hundred percent.
00:34:06.920 Dude, believe me.
00:34:08.080 We talked about this yesterday.
00:34:09.220 Yeah.
00:34:09.420 Like I, I legitimately like wonder sometimes like why the fuck do people even listen to
00:34:15.340 what I said?
00:34:15.940 Like I'm no, I'm no way.
00:34:16.960 Stop listening right now, you guys.
00:34:17.660 Turn this shit off.
00:34:18.380 You know what I'm saying?
00:34:18.840 Like we talked about yesterday.
00:34:19.800 I'm like, I'm, I'm nothing.
00:34:21.140 And I truly believe that.
00:34:22.280 Like, uh, it's, it's to a fault though sometimes, you know?
00:34:25.940 And, uh, and you have to understand that like, dude, we all feel that way.
00:34:31.820 Yeah.
00:34:32.140 We all feel like we're faking it.
00:34:33.440 And the only thing that takes you out of it is taking the leap, putting out the truth.
00:34:36.900 And then when someone responds and sends you that direct message and says, Hey man, I just
00:34:42.360 saw your video.
00:34:42.820 I know it only got 12 views on YouTube.
00:34:44.580 I was one of them.
00:34:45.440 That shit changed my fucking life.
00:34:46.960 Yeah.
00:34:47.240 And then that becomes the, the confidence, the blood force, the energy to want to keep
00:34:52.140 doing it again and again.
00:34:53.340 And then pretty soon you're like, Oh shit.
00:34:54.780 I guess what happens when you do something over and over again, you get great at it.
00:34:58.060 Yeah.
00:34:58.380 That's it.
00:34:58.900 You get fucking good.
00:34:59.800 Yeah.
00:35:00.760 So, so, so let's talk about the education process.
00:35:03.260 You know, why is this so important and, and why is it such a valuable piece of your formula?
00:35:09.260 I think right now there's so much bullshit out there because the barrier to entry to business
00:35:14.080 is at an all time low because we have so much access, right?
00:35:16.220 Like anybody can fucking make their own Wikipedia page.
00:35:18.900 Anybody can make a website profile pic, take a picture in front of a fucking Lambo, dah,
00:35:22.800 dah, dah.
00:35:22.980 So to really differentiate yourself, you actually have to demonstrate expertise.
00:35:28.600 See, we came from a background where everybody can tell them how great they were, right?
00:35:32.640 I'm going to put my name on a billboard because I have a billboard that by default means I'm
00:35:35.880 fucking fantastic.
00:35:36.880 But now today you have to show.
00:35:39.180 So if there's any marketers in particular listening, stop running advertisements, telling
00:35:43.080 people how much you can grow their business, record yourself actually helping a business
00:35:48.460 for three months, show the fucking process from when you came in to the end.
00:35:52.980 Chop it up in a six minute video and then say, if you want me to go through this process
00:35:56.620 with you, click this button below and your fucking business will explode.
00:35:59.380 And this is a saying, you have a saying about this demonstration outclasses, self-proclamation
00:36:04.880 every fucking time guys, like fucking demonstrate.
00:36:08.300 Don't fucking tell demonstrate.
00:36:10.080 Don't fucking tell.
00:36:10.800 Yeah.
00:36:10.940 That's really the cue of the education.
00:36:12.080 That's why we fucking do it.
00:36:13.040 Yeah.
00:36:13.440 Yeah, dude.
00:36:13.920 And, and, and from your experience, how much more effective is that process with, with,
00:36:21.100 with advertising versus versus cause I, cause I know you've run both kinds of ads in your
00:36:25.680 life.
00:36:25.880 Yeah.
00:36:26.220 All right.
00:36:26.480 So let's give people a little idea of like, honestly, the difference, the other ones don't
00:36:31.620 work anymore.
00:36:32.360 They don't work at all.
00:36:33.360 They just don't work.
00:36:34.340 And that's what I'm trying to get you to say.
00:36:35.420 That's like, it's like a hundred.
00:36:37.340 Like we say a hundred to fucking zero.
00:36:39.740 It's, it's real shit.
00:36:40.700 So I have a lot of clients and they're like, dude, why am I ads working?
00:36:43.700 Like I put this picture of this cat and like people are liking it and clicking it.
00:36:47.440 And I'm like, well, did you fucking show them anything that would actually help them?
00:36:50.180 Yeah.
00:36:50.420 Like no enemy.
00:36:51.300 Or did you just stay in there and talk about how great you are, what you do?
00:36:53.920 Exactly.
00:36:54.300 And it's just as classic as the fucking ShamWow.
00:36:56.260 Everybody's seen the fucking ShamWow commercials or you've been to a fair where someone takes
00:37:00.060 out a fucking knife and they chop up vegetables.
00:37:01.940 You're like, dude, I'm not even, I'm not even into cooking, but I'll buy that product.
00:37:04.360 Cause they put on a great demonstration.
00:37:06.060 Yeah.
00:37:06.340 That's it.
00:37:06.700 Like simplify business.
00:37:07.800 Figure out what your product is and just fucking demonstrate people using it and ask them if they
00:37:11.900 want to buy it.
00:37:12.380 I promise you do nothing else.
00:37:13.780 And you're great.
00:37:14.840 Your life will change.
00:37:15.560 Dude, it's the old test.
00:37:16.440 It's just testimonial, man.
00:37:18.320 It's just a different way of a testimonial.
00:37:20.280 You know, we've all seen the before and after pictures.
00:37:22.620 Well, the reason those fucking work and the reason you can't put them on fucking Facebook
00:37:26.460 anymore is because they work so well that people can actually sell completely bogus shit
00:37:33.620 based off of a simple before and after.
00:37:35.960 Well, think about your business or what you're trying to sell.
00:37:38.460 How are you going to demonstrate your before and after?
00:37:41.520 It might not be, I lost 50 pounds, but figuring out, you know, I got this fucking steel pipe
00:37:48.320 and guess what?
00:37:48.960 Here it is as a pipe and I cut the motherfucker up with the Ginsu and now it's a bunch of little
00:37:52.740 pipes.
00:37:53.320 You know what I'm saying?
00:37:54.260 Like before and after.
00:37:55.380 That's it.
00:37:55.740 Now, I know neither one of you guys ever needed to watch this show, but did you ever watch
00:37:59.400 MTV's The Pickup Artist?
00:38:02.180 But Neil Strauss?
00:38:03.220 Yeah.
00:38:03.880 Did you watch it?
00:38:04.660 I met him recently.
00:38:05.380 He's a badass motherfucker.
00:38:06.420 Yeah.
00:38:06.720 By the way, but I did read the book.
00:38:07.900 Really?
00:38:08.180 Okay, okay, so the best part of that show was the footage, the behind the scenes footage
00:38:13.220 of watching the guys going and trying to pick up the girls in the bar, which to me sounds
00:38:17.660 like exactly what you're saying.
00:38:18.560 It's the demonstration.
00:38:19.260 It's interesting.
00:38:19.600 Even like real estate agents, like think about it.
00:38:22.100 The most successful real estate agents today are the ones with the TV show that go in,
00:38:25.900 they go to a house, they fucking record themselves like fixing it and then they fucking sell
00:38:30.380 it.
00:38:30.660 It's just-
00:38:30.940 Yeah, and if you, let's go back to the real estate agent.
00:38:32.640 I actually fucking said this on the stage in that talk where I told motherfuckers, I'm
00:38:37.960 like, how about this?
00:38:39.160 How about instead of putting your face on a fucking business card and writing the same
00:38:42.480 fucking shit about the house, like everybody else writes these over like, you know, descriptive
00:38:49.200 corny ass fucking descriptions, how about you record yourself going through the house
00:38:53.860 and painting a picture for the potential buyer?
00:38:56.700 This is where your family's going to grow up.
00:38:58.340 The crisper tree would look great right here, don't you think?
00:39:00.780 Like, you know, you could be the guy who like revolutionizes and dominates your space.
00:39:05.800 And everyone is such a dinosaur right now and not doing this, you guys, the opportunity
00:39:10.100 is wide open.
00:39:11.540 It's free.
00:39:12.100 Like, I love dinosaur industries when they come to me because I'm like, dude, we're
00:39:14.340 going to fucking win because nobody else is even playing.
00:39:16.860 You don't even have to be good right now.
00:39:18.100 You just got to participate.
00:39:19.060 And you're going to be the first guy playing and you're going to be the first guy for 10
00:39:23.280 fucking years.
00:39:24.000 Yep.
00:39:24.800 It may be longer.
00:39:25.960 Yeah.
00:39:26.080 So here's the other thing, the big shift that I think is happening right now that people
00:39:29.000 are sleeping on, videographers will, I guarantee you guys, be a standard hire for all businesses.
00:39:36.820 The same way you have an accountant or a tax yourself, you will fucking have a media department
00:39:41.940 that's there.
00:39:42.660 So at any given time, they can create taunting.
00:39:44.680 It will be the most basic and standard thing.
00:39:46.460 Like my daughter, when she grows up, she won't even know a world without it.
00:39:50.120 Yeah.
00:39:50.380 Because I'm telling you right now, I don't give a fuck if you have all the credibility
00:39:53.100 in the world.
00:39:53.640 You've been around for 30 years.
00:39:54.540 You got the accolades, you got the awards.
00:39:56.940 If motherfuckers look you up and they can't find you on Facebook, they find you on YouTube,
00:40:01.400 you got two videos with three views, they don't see you on Instagram, they will not trust
00:40:06.060 you and they will not buy.
00:40:07.160 Right.
00:40:07.320 It's just a trust.
00:40:08.020 It's just like-
00:40:08.300 And by the way, I get this question all the time.
00:40:10.440 How do you find good media people?
00:40:12.240 Listen, I'm going to answer this fucking question for all you motherfuckers.
00:40:15.040 You don't.
00:40:16.320 You got to make them.
00:40:17.700 Okay?
00:40:18.320 That's fucking the real shit ever.
00:40:20.160 Just like people say, oh, Andy, you've got all these great employees.
00:40:23.320 How did you find them?
00:40:24.300 You think I won the fucking lottery of fucking employees?
00:40:27.300 No, motherfucker.
00:40:28.420 I got good at leadership and management and personal development.
00:40:32.260 Which, by the way, you're not born with.
00:40:34.060 Yes.
00:40:34.520 Like motherfuckers, you think like you're just, oh, that person's just the leader.
00:40:37.780 Shut the fuck up.
00:40:38.940 That person practiced, fucked up a whole bunch of times, and then finally got it.
00:40:42.660 Yeah.
00:40:43.000 And you know what?
00:40:44.000 There's times, and Tyler does this now, but when Tyler first started video, guess who
00:40:48.800 stood behind Tyler and said, hey, I don't know how to cut the fucking clip,
00:40:53.200 but I know it looks good.
00:40:54.380 So, hey, you know what, dude?
00:40:56.120 We should cut it right here and put this music in, or do this, or this, or this, or this,
00:41:00.280 or this.
00:41:00.640 Now, guess what?
00:41:01.680 I don't have to do that anymore because he fucking learned it, and now he stands behind
00:41:05.880 the other motherfuckers and does that.
00:41:07.340 That's how it goes.
00:41:07.880 This is how you do it.
00:41:09.140 You don't just hire people like, oh, dude, but how do I find somebody like D-Rock, Gary?
00:41:15.060 Motherfucker, you think D-Rock just showed up out of the fucking outer space on Gary V's
00:41:19.740 fucking front porch?
00:41:20.920 Hey, I'm a great videographer.
00:41:23.040 No.
00:41:23.660 It wasn't.
00:41:24.300 They worked together to develop it.
00:41:25.640 Bro, this is so real, and here's the disconnect.
00:41:29.360 Unfortunately, people don't realize that when you start your business, it takes you so long
00:41:34.500 to get to the point where you can just afford to live, right?
00:41:36.880 You go through shit.
00:41:38.080 You go through hell.
00:41:38.980 You're going to pay a bunch of employees a lot more money than you make for a long fucking
00:41:43.280 time.
00:41:43.600 But that's the decision.
00:41:45.280 Most people become so resentful because they put so much into getting to that place.
00:41:50.080 When an employee comes on, the idea of paying them or training them just sounds miserable,
00:41:55.000 so you're never willing to invest.
00:41:57.140 But as an entrepreneur, it's almost like you got to make the decision twice.
00:41:59.900 Wait, wait, wait.
00:42:00.620 Let me stop you right there.
00:42:00.660 That's a fucking key word.
00:42:03.000 Invest.
00:42:03.200 Your payroll is an investment.
00:42:05.520 It is not a fucking expense.
00:42:07.640 Yep.
00:42:07.760 Because if I ask people, is your payroll an expense, they'll be raising it.
00:42:12.860 Yeah, it's an expense.
00:42:13.940 No, it ain't.
00:42:14.660 It's only an expense if you're not fucking training your motherfucking people.
00:42:17.480 Exactly.
00:42:17.920 Otherwise, it's going to be a fucking investment.
00:42:19.800 And every person at my company, every job they've done, I've done at one point.
00:42:22.920 Yeah.
00:42:23.120 Every single role that's there, I've done.
00:42:25.400 It fucking came from here.
00:42:26.520 And so they ask me the same thing.
00:42:27.380 Like, how do you get this culture?
00:42:28.700 It's like motherfucking we're in the churches together.
00:42:30.180 Dude, and you know what?
00:42:31.240 I know there's people in your company, just like there is in my companies, that are better than
00:42:35.040 me at those jobs, even though I did them.
00:42:37.180 Yes.
00:42:37.460 But when they started-
00:42:38.560 All of them now.
00:42:39.000 But when they started, they were not.
00:42:41.300 Exactly.
00:42:41.640 So what the key is, is you'll find people who are willing to work hard, who are willing
00:42:46.140 to learn, who are willing to build and carve a place for them career-wise with you, and
00:42:51.440 you show them kind of the shit to do.
00:42:52.620 And then you can trust.
00:42:53.500 And then you can trust.
00:42:54.540 It's like taking the training wheels off your kid's bike.
00:42:58.600 Like, you know the motherfucker's going to crash, but what do you do?
00:43:02.020 You got to take them off.
00:43:03.540 And it's the same thing that people aren't willing to do that with employees.
00:43:07.180 They'll take the fucking training wheels off, the motherfucker go crash, and then they
00:43:10.680 fire him.
00:43:11.300 Yep.
00:43:11.560 It's their fault.
00:43:12.440 Yeah.
00:43:12.760 It's your fucking fault.
00:43:13.840 Dude, look.
00:43:14.340 When you have a team member not doing a thing, it's your fault.
00:43:16.780 Yes.
00:43:17.120 The lack of accountability is insane right now, and that's why you're fucking losing.
00:43:20.200 Dude, it's everything.
00:43:21.700 And you have to be willing to look at people's mistakes when you're training them as an investment
00:43:28.240 in your company.
00:43:30.320 Like, dude, you know, your t-shirt or your apparel guy makes a wrong run of t-shirts,
00:43:36.880 and it costs you an extra 12 grand.
00:43:38.820 And you know what?
00:43:39.460 You're pissed.
00:43:40.300 But guess what ain't going to happen when he's ordering a million dollars worth of shirts.
00:43:43.660 He ain't going to make that same mistake.
00:43:44.980 Yep.
00:43:45.440 You know?
00:43:45.980 And that's how it goes.
00:43:47.140 And you have to be willing to take that.
00:43:48.500 Take those L's in the chest.
00:43:49.720 Like, there was plenty, especially, this is where people get it wrong the most is in sales.
00:43:52.920 Because usually you're, like, the best person selling your products or service.
00:43:55.720 So when you get those salespeople in there, and you need that money, and you, like, clench,
00:43:59.220 like, oh, my God, I'm watching, I'm listening to him or her miss that sale, you want to hop
00:44:03.320 on the phone, you want to jump on them.
00:44:04.740 You need to fucking let them burn.
00:44:06.340 You got to understand that you missing that sale is the cost of getting them to a point so you
00:44:10.960 don't have to sell anymore.
00:44:12.100 That's right.
00:44:12.660 It's the cost of doing business.
00:44:14.520 A lot of people don't realize that.
00:44:15.480 No, dude, and it's, that is an investment.
00:44:18.100 Yeah.
00:44:18.200 And you have to look at it that way, because otherwise it'll drive you insane.
00:44:21.200 Arrogance and ignorance is the only two things stopping people from at least hitting that
00:44:24.500 million dollar mark in their company, is you either think you fucking know everything
00:44:27.880 and you don't fucking get help, or ignorance, you just don't know so much that you're fucking
00:44:31.920 missing all the time.
00:44:32.760 Yeah.
00:44:33.280 Yeah.
00:44:33.580 Dude, I think arrogance is even more prevalent than ignorance.
00:44:37.220 Yeah.
00:44:37.420 I have so many motherfuckers that will, I mean, let's just be real here, motherfucker.
00:44:43.600 Let's keep it real.
00:44:44.140 If you're going to come to me and you're going to tell me about business, your business does
00:44:49.840 fucking 400 grand a year, all right?
00:44:52.740 And you're going to talk to me about how, what's right?
00:44:55.120 No.
00:44:56.320 There is a scorecard in business.
00:44:57.560 There is a fucking scorecard.
00:44:59.100 And guess what?
00:44:59.520 My scorecard is a lot bigger than your fucking scorecard.
00:45:03.120 And you know what?
00:45:03.680 If I'm going to talk to fucking, uh, you know, my friend, Ed Milet, Ed Milet, he's further
00:45:09.440 down the road than me.
00:45:10.700 Okay.
00:45:11.080 So guess what happens when Ed speaks to me?
00:45:13.720 I fucking listen.
00:45:14.600 Listen.
00:45:15.220 And I don't try to challenge you.
00:45:16.640 I'm like, Oh, okay.
00:45:17.520 All right.
00:45:17.840 I got it.
00:45:18.300 Yeah.
00:45:18.580 And I learn.
00:45:19.180 All right.
00:45:20.140 So, but it's, it's amazing to me the amount of people who are, who are, and I call it
00:45:24.700 playing CEO.
00:45:25.880 Okay.
00:45:26.280 They get into business, they get a fucking LLC, right?
00:45:30.780 And you're 800 bucks.
00:45:31.880 Yeah.
00:45:32.140 And they got a business card that says CEO on it and they got a little office somewhere
00:45:35.880 and they're not learning any of the skills they need.
00:45:40.740 They're not learning how to lead.
00:45:41.980 They're not learning how to manage.
00:45:43.120 They're not learning how to sell.
00:45:44.280 They're not learning how to market or advertise or brand, but they'll be the first one to
00:45:48.960 let everybody know that they're a fucking business owner.
00:45:51.600 And they think they got 20 years of experience, but they got the same year repeated 20 times.
00:45:55.620 Yes.
00:45:55.860 And that's like the fucking realist motherfucking shit that everybody goes through.
00:45:59.080 It's like, man, the unwillingness to learn, invest.
00:46:02.740 Like I said in the beginning, the doctors will put in 10 years just to learn, but you will
00:46:06.920 not like people say, like this is my number one question I ask people who say, I don't have
00:46:10.080 enough sales.
00:46:10.720 I say, great.
00:46:11.620 How many sales courses have you taken?
00:46:13.260 They go zero.
00:46:14.580 Cool.
00:46:15.100 How many sales coaches have you hired?
00:46:16.880 They say zero.
00:46:17.700 Cool.
00:46:17.940 I said, is it weird that your sales suck ass?
00:46:20.440 Yeah.
00:46:20.820 Is it weird that you fucking haven't invested any time into it and you're fucking broke as
00:46:24.960 fuck and you're surprised?
00:46:27.300 Right.
00:46:27.720 Fuck is going on?
00:46:28.720 Dude, dude, it's the truth, man.
00:46:30.620 But you know what it is?
00:46:32.400 And this is a lot of people dog out millennials and shit.
00:46:35.300 I don't believe in that because I think millennials are fucking awesome, but they have to be handled
00:46:39.400 differently.
00:46:39.940 And the way that they have to be handled differently is to understand that most millennials
00:46:43.200 do not have an accurate concept of patience because the way older generations grew up
00:46:50.140 was things took a long time.
00:46:52.760 Right.
00:46:52.920 Okay.
00:46:53.180 You couldn't just get on the internet and talk to all your friends in real time over across
00:46:57.400 the world.
00:46:58.240 Right.
00:46:58.540 You didn't have text message.
00:46:59.980 You didn't have Facebook.
00:47:01.580 You didn't have Google Hangouts.
00:47:03.220 Yeah.
00:47:03.540 You didn't have this shit.
00:47:04.640 Like, shit just took time.
00:47:07.160 Like, if you want to see your fucking friend from Alabama, you might see him one weekend
00:47:10.840 a year when your family goes to vacation in Alabama.
00:47:13.000 Yeah.
00:47:13.340 You know?
00:47:13.680 Like, it's just different.
00:47:15.500 And the understanding of combined with the idea that people feeding these people that
00:47:23.140 everybody wins, which is not fucking true.
00:47:24.860 Yeah.
00:47:25.060 But the way our society has evolved, patience has become something that's hard for them
00:47:30.860 to learn because they never grew up with it.
00:47:32.580 That's not their fault.
00:47:33.520 That's our fault.
00:47:34.100 That's interesting.
00:47:34.800 I like that.
00:47:35.400 It's our fault for creating that environment and not realizing that we're teaching them
00:47:39.740 how to not have patience, which is a crucial piece of the fucking puzzle.
00:47:45.380 And a lot, too, like, with millennials and me being 30 and a millennial, I call myself
00:47:50.360 a millennial that's not a millennial that fucking hates millennials, but I obviously hire
00:47:52.900 them.
00:47:52.940 I have a bunch of millennials.
00:47:54.340 That's all we have.
00:47:55.400 But I think the game here is they are into purpose.
00:48:01.160 So, like-
00:48:01.640 And that's great.
00:48:02.480 And it's great.
00:48:03.180 And that's why it's so funny.
00:48:04.420 Like, people, like, hate on it.
00:48:05.580 Like, oh, they care.
00:48:06.400 It's like, dude, it's about fucking something bigger.
00:48:08.280 Dude, the reason it's great is because the tools have evolved now to where we're not able,
00:48:16.620 businesses are not able to sell a product that doesn't solve a real problem because
00:48:21.020 the repercussions are instant.
00:48:24.100 People talk instantly.
00:48:25.660 They can tweet about it.
00:48:26.580 The market will fuck you.
00:48:27.540 Yeah, immediately.
00:48:28.520 Yeah.
00:48:28.780 Okay?
00:48:28.980 Whereas 30 years ago, it took years for that to happen because when you want to see your
00:48:34.180 friend in Alabama, you only saw him once a year.
00:48:36.360 Guess what?
00:48:36.740 You aren't going to talk about.
00:48:37.540 You're not going to talk about this fucking thing that happened to you from this company
00:48:41.120 that you already forgot about.
00:48:42.180 But now, when you piss someone off or you lie or you cheat, everybody knows instantly.
00:48:46.940 So, we have a situation now where we have companies that, to be successful, have to be dedicated
00:48:54.020 to a real purpose of solving a real problem.
00:48:57.980 And guess what else we have?
00:48:59.120 We have a workforce that is totally 100% purpose-driven.
00:49:05.080 Okay?
00:49:05.320 Those two things together are like peanut butter and fucking jelly, man.
00:49:09.880 They just work.
00:49:10.740 And right now, if people are thinking like, well, I just don't have the money to hire
00:49:13.960 anyone.
00:49:14.460 Dude, sales cures all, but it really, like, I want to kind of paint a picture for sales.
00:49:19.900 So, I know there's a lot of people listening right now and you may be in this stage of
00:49:22.040 like trying to start your business.
00:49:23.500 And you may listen to us talk and you're like, well, these guys already have X resource,
00:49:26.920 Y resource, blah, blah, blah.
00:49:28.100 Look, I started from shit.
00:49:29.240 I know you didn't start with shit.
00:49:30.200 We just fucking came to this game.
00:49:31.740 But even when I didn't have any money, I knew a couple people with money and I knew
00:49:35.560 I had the ability to sell them to give me some fucking money.
00:49:38.500 So, right now, if you're in the position where you're like, well, I don't have, I don't
00:49:41.440 have, learn how to fucking sell.
00:49:42.880 Because you can sell people to give you money.
00:49:44.640 You can sell people to join your team and to work for free.
00:49:48.460 Yeah.
00:49:48.640 My first employees, they worked for fucking free until we made some money because I sold
00:49:53.260 them on a vision, which is tattooed on my wrist.
00:49:55.980 Vision.
00:49:56.320 You got to have fucking vision because that's what drives all of it.
00:49:59.600 And dude, you know what's, you know what I think a lot of, a lot of quote unquote CEOs
00:50:05.500 and, and quote unquote business owners, they don't have the vision that involves the, cause
00:50:12.820 like, dude, when you try to sell a real vision, just like we said a minute ago, people know
00:50:18.100 when they're being fucking sold.
00:50:19.500 So if you're going to lie to them about what you're trying to do with your company, just
00:50:23.160 to get them to buy in on the short term, those people will bury your company, bury you
00:50:28.460 personally.
00:50:29.740 And so we have a situation now where we have, you can't survive in business without solving
00:50:36.780 a real problem.
00:50:37.560 You have a workforce that is dedicated to purpose and solving problems.
00:50:43.360 And if you want to be a great CEO, you've got to be people driven to where your model
00:50:49.800 and your vision has to include your key people longterm.
00:50:52.600 So what does this, what are we talking about?
00:50:54.920 Really?
00:50:55.740 Uh, we're talking about doing the right fucking thing.
00:50:58.440 We're talking a good person.
00:50:59.320 That's it.
00:50:59.720 Treating others how they want to be treated.
00:51:01.340 Like, you know what?
00:51:02.020 Creating opportunity for people who, who put sweat equity in it.
00:51:05.460 That's the right thing.
00:51:06.440 Yep.
00:51:06.680 People do.
00:51:07.220 Dude, we've had, I've had a number of times where people have tried to buy our company
00:51:11.600 and I always say, no, I'm not interested in selling the company.
00:51:14.740 You know why?
00:51:15.200 Cause I got fucking 150 motherfuckers that sweat every day for this and I don't trust
00:51:20.500 their future with some fucking corporation.
00:51:22.840 Yep.
00:51:23.600 I'm loyal to that cause.
00:51:25.320 Responsibility.
00:51:25.840 And you know what?
00:51:26.760 They're loyal back because of it.
00:51:28.320 You know what I mean?
00:51:29.400 And dude, but most business owners, the reason what I was getting at about painting this vision
00:51:33.500 is they're selfish.
00:51:34.960 They are selfish and they don't give a fuck about their employees.
00:51:38.500 And if you truly don't give a fuck about your employees, you're not going to be able
00:51:42.520 to build a company.
00:51:43.760 And they won't give a fuck about you.
00:51:45.160 And then they won't give a fuck about your customers and they will put you out of business.
00:51:48.560 Yeah.
00:51:48.760 And that's it.
00:51:49.180 You know what I was, I, and it's real dude.
00:51:51.100 Like people probably right now own a business there cause I hear this all the time.
00:51:55.780 They're like, well, how do I get my employees to care?
00:51:58.380 Well, you got to fucking care about them first.
00:52:01.840 What are you going to say?
00:52:02.860 I was just going to say, you were saying that we're living in an age, uh, you're saying
00:52:06.300 this earlier where, where the big dogs are now being attacked by little, little people
00:52:10.620 coming along, you know, like the big brands.
00:52:13.200 What's amazing to me is how, how many people don't understand that you have a skill that will
00:52:19.580 solve a problem and that you as an individual can do a better job than in many cases, a
00:52:24.280 lot of these established organizations that have been around forever.
00:52:26.940 I have a buddy who he was, he was a public school teacher for a couple of years.
00:52:30.960 I mean, he literally was making like $38,000 a year and he just finally said, you know what?
00:52:36.140 I'm smart in these subjects.
00:52:37.560 I'm going to just basically market myself as a private tutor.
00:52:40.340 He makes three times as much now as a private tutor.
00:52:43.200 I can tell you what I would do.
00:52:44.420 I love it.
00:52:44.720 You know what I'm saying?
00:52:45.560 If I was a videographer right now thinking how I fucking think, I can tell you what I
00:52:49.000 would be thinking right now.
00:52:50.420 I would be thinking like, fuck dude, you know what I'm going to do?
00:52:52.260 I'm going to open up a school for videographers.
00:52:54.100 I'm going to teach motherfuckers how to be videographers.
00:52:56.100 And then I'm going to graduate.
00:52:58.040 I'm going to graduate these motherfuckers into companies to run their media team.
00:53:01.920 Yep.
00:53:02.220 You'd have a, that'd be a billion dollar fucking company in five years.
00:53:05.120 Dude, we can talk like video franchise.
00:53:07.020 Paul and I have been fucking talking about this shit for like two years.
00:53:09.560 No, but at an academy, you bring them in, you train them and you place them.
00:53:12.380 Yeah.
00:53:13.500 But you know what I'm saying?
00:53:14.220 I mean, like, like there's, as an individual, because of the, the, the assets that are out
00:53:18.080 there and the resources that are out there, you as an individual with your skill can do
00:53:23.120 so much more than established organizations.
00:53:25.640 Here's our number one skill.
00:53:26.740 I don't think people really understand that.
00:53:27.600 I agree with you a hundred percent.
00:53:28.960 And I think the, the number one, like benefit asset resource strength that everybody's missing
00:53:33.720 right now is speed.
00:53:35.040 The reason why I have five people in house who do nothing but create content is because
00:53:39.540 we can move so much faster than virtually almost anybody in our space.
00:53:43.880 So like, dude, how do we see you everywhere?
00:53:45.600 It's because we fucking move fast.
00:53:47.820 So once you put a layer in between and you say, all right, well, we're not going to hire
00:53:50.860 a media team, but when we need someone, we'll go look for a contractor and then we have
00:53:54.880 to vet the contractor and then we have to describe to him the product and the company.
00:53:58.600 And by the time you figure, by the time you got it done, you don't need a shit no more.
00:53:59.880 You miss the moment.
00:54:00.600 You miss the fucking moment.
00:54:01.680 Yeah.
00:54:01.860 So being able to strike immediately on an opportunity, that's why fucking content is key.
00:54:05.660 Yeah.
00:54:05.840 So the last point on your, on your process is to execute.
00:54:09.480 And I know what this means, but what does it mean to you?
00:54:12.560 Execute is to fucking close the sale.
00:54:14.580 Like execute is where I think like right now we live in this world where people are afraid
00:54:20.500 to sell, sell, sells, a salesman has a really bad stigma.
00:54:24.440 Stigma.
00:54:24.760 It always has kind of, but even now, like right now, everybody's like, oh my gosh, how dare
00:54:28.700 you pitch?
00:54:29.240 Like, oh no, don't, no, don't sell anything.
00:54:31.620 Like all this bullshit.
00:54:32.780 And so once they collect the lead, once they get the opportunity, they have someone in
00:54:37.460 front of them, they're afraid to ask for the credit card.
00:54:41.180 Right.
00:54:41.320 And as a result of that, you can have the best marketing in the world, but who cares if
00:54:44.400 you can't actually finish.
00:54:45.400 That's right.
00:54:45.780 So for me, you should never be ashamed of selling when you know that your actual product
00:54:50.140 is going to help them.
00:54:51.220 Exactly.
00:54:51.940 Cause then it's, you're, you're, you're selfish if you're not selling them.
00:54:55.100 I agree.
00:54:55.380 And like, I own that so much that like I've trained my audience to like every single time that
00:55:00.200 I'm fucking selling something.
00:55:01.620 And in addition to that, people don't get mad at you selling.
00:55:04.700 They get mad at the way you sell.
00:55:06.640 Right.
00:55:06.840 So if you can fucking make somebody laugh during the sales process and they know what's coming
00:55:11.480 and it's fun and you can be authentic and you can be real, like letting them know that
00:55:15.480 yes, I am selling.
00:55:16.540 Look at the fucking QVC.
00:55:18.020 People watch a TV show to be sold.
00:55:20.460 Right.
00:55:20.560 They show up with their credit.
00:55:21.860 Oh my God.
00:55:22.460 What am I going to be sold today?
00:55:23.820 Because the way they do it, it's just the fucking, it's the delivery.
00:55:27.060 It's the dance.
00:55:27.640 It's the presentation.
00:55:28.460 So if you feel sorry about selling your shit, it's your fucking fault.
00:55:32.880 Control your process.
00:55:33.560 The core belief is that probably if you, if you feel bad about selling, whatever it is
00:55:37.600 that you sell, it's probably because whatever you sell sucks.
00:55:40.840 Yes.
00:55:41.340 Change the fucking thing you're selling.
00:55:42.740 Yeah.
00:55:42.980 And also too, like the other thing I see right now is like people say all the time, like
00:55:47.280 I'm sure you get this question too.
00:55:48.260 Like, all right, well I'm hearing this thing.
00:55:50.000 Like, how do I make money?
00:55:51.120 How do I just get to 10 grand or whatever it is?
00:55:53.280 I'm like, dude, you want to know the real shit?
00:55:54.620 I'll tell you the honest answer.
00:55:55.560 I don't think you're going to like it.
00:55:57.000 Pick up the fucking phone and dial.
00:55:58.980 Yeah.
00:55:59.400 Pick up the fucking phone.
00:56:00.980 No one picks up the phone right now because they're like, well, I have a system and it's
00:56:03.800 automated and I have this funnel.
00:56:05.260 Like, shut up.
00:56:06.020 Which by the way, motherfucker, that's the opportunity.
00:56:08.780 The reason why picking up the phone or actually talking to someone face to face is so valuable
00:56:14.980 and why I said a minute ago retail will never fucking die is because the opportunity to connect
00:56:22.300 with someone is becoming more and more and more rare.
00:56:27.200 So what does that mean?
00:56:28.260 It means that when you can truly connect, when you can fucking look someone in the eye,
00:56:33.360 when you could shake someone's hand, when you could talk to them on the phone,
00:56:36.320 it's now becoming more appreciated.
00:56:38.160 Hey, let me tell you how deep this goes because I know there's a lot of guys that listen to
00:56:41.220 this podcast.
00:56:42.440 Listen, not that I've ever had it, but if you want to have sex and you're doing all this
00:56:47.200 Tinder shit and you're fucking swiping left, you're swiping right, you're on the fucking
00:56:50.880 match.com, you're on the Facebook message, Instagram, you're poking people, you're sliding
00:56:55.220 in the DM, I dare you to take one of these dates and pick up the phone and call her and
00:57:01.420 I bet you your chances to close go up by 20x because no one does have time to call.
00:57:06.860 No one goes, oh my God, he called me.
00:57:08.220 But the girls today, they're like, he's a weirdo.
00:57:09.780 I can't believe you fucking called.
00:57:11.100 You don't want to bother her anyway.
00:57:12.960 It's such a creep.
00:57:13.660 But dude, the thing is, yeah, and those are the ones you don't want.
00:57:15.640 Exactly.
00:57:15.960 That's right.
00:57:16.180 But the thing is about what we're talking about and the way you and I see this, which
00:57:23.360 is great.
00:57:23.780 I'm glad that you and I see this and most people don't because it creates more for us
00:57:26.760 to eat, right?
00:57:27.340 Yeah.
00:57:27.520 But the thing is, is that the opportunity that is being created because of the automation
00:57:34.480 and because of technology, when was the last time you went to Home Depot and saw more than
00:57:39.480 two motherfuckers at the cash register, right?
00:57:42.480 Or at the grocery store, but I bet if you went into Lowe's and they had 30 fucking cash
00:57:47.500 registers open, that they would sell 10 times more shit than Home Depot because of that.
00:57:52.560 And what's happening right now is that technology is starting to really create a tremendous opportunity
00:57:58.800 for us to go back to what's really valued, which is human connection, which is entertainment,
00:58:03.700 which is education, right?
00:58:05.580 It's all the same shit.
00:58:06.280 Yeah, dude.
00:58:06.940 It's fucking, it's crazy.
00:58:08.120 And I'm excited about it, but like a lot of these motherfuckers that are listening right
00:58:11.700 now, they're drowning because of it because they're like, I'm supposed to use an automated
00:58:16.100 dialer.
00:58:16.640 I'm supposed to use this system.
00:58:18.320 I'm supposed to use these stamped thank you cards.
00:58:21.480 I'm supposed to use an email system and they're getting fucking killed.
00:58:25.060 They don't know why.
00:58:25.780 It's crazy.
00:58:26.400 I'll give you guys an action step.
00:58:28.080 For those of you running business right now and you have active customers, I'm going
00:58:31.480 to give you the craziest challenge that's going to freak you out, but I promise you
00:58:33.980 I'll make you money.
00:58:34.980 When someone buys online or someone through automated process, pick up the phone, call them and thank
00:58:40.520 them for their purchase.
00:58:41.440 And here's what's going to happen.
00:58:42.400 Number one, they're going to fucking love you and be around forever.
00:58:44.300 Yeah.
00:58:44.520 But number two, they will either refer you someone else or they will buy more shit.
00:58:49.980 Hey, thank you so much for buying like those t-shirts on our website.
00:58:52.260 I really appreciate it.
00:58:53.180 This is our company.
00:58:53.860 This is what we do.
00:58:54.720 Hey, by the way, do you also sell jeans?
00:58:56.260 Dot, dot, dot, dot.
00:58:56.760 Like you will make more sales.
00:58:58.140 They will look for opportunities to support you.
00:58:59.740 Exactly.
00:59:00.020 They will look for it because you did something.
00:59:02.160 We have a saying here that the value is in the inefficiencies.
00:59:05.960 Okay.
00:59:06.880 So anything that you can do that's perceived to be inefficient, that takes work is going
00:59:12.020 to be highly valued by your customer.
00:59:13.720 So picking up the phone and spending a fucking five minute phone call with them, that means
00:59:18.080 a lot more than a five minute phone call 15 years ago because everybody was calling.
00:59:22.660 Right.
00:59:23.160 I got some other value for like that, that made me, that triggered something.
00:59:26.200 So a lot of times with advertising nowadays is remember when someone has never tried your
00:59:32.600 product or your service, they have no idea what they're missing out on and you forget
00:59:37.120 that.
00:59:37.400 So remember this quote, the value is created after the experience.
00:59:42.900 Meaning if you fucking have a gym and you're like, why is no one coming to your gym?
00:59:45.760 We have the best customer service.
00:59:47.200 We have the best workouts.
00:59:48.320 They're never fucking done it.
00:59:49.880 They don't know that.
00:59:50.900 So your only job when first meeting someone is to get them to the experience so they can
00:59:55.260 share that same sentiment with you.
00:59:56.880 That's right.
00:59:57.080 Until then, shut the fuck up.
00:59:58.740 Yeah.
00:59:59.020 Value is created after the experience.
01:00:00.180 And dude, you ever notice that the most unsuccessful business people are the ones that talk about
01:00:04.300 how great their experience is and nobody fucking knows about it.
01:00:08.000 It's crazy.
01:00:08.560 Well, yeah, motherfucker.
01:00:10.020 How the fuck is anybody going to know what you do when you don't have any customers?
01:00:14.000 It's ridiculous.
01:00:14.520 And then you have the other guys.
01:00:15.760 You have the other guys, which all they care about is acquiring the customer and they don't
01:00:20.360 care about the experience of the retention.
01:00:22.160 And keeping them.
01:00:22.600 They lose too.
01:00:23.580 They don't stay in business.
01:00:24.360 You got to have both parts.
01:00:25.560 Yep.
01:00:25.840 You know, you got to have it both.
01:00:27.160 So dude, let me ask you this.
01:00:29.900 What do you think are the, you know, just some of the biggest mistakes that you see people
01:00:35.320 doing when it comes to marketing?
01:00:37.040 Well, that would be one is one, not realizing that the value is created after experience,
01:00:40.300 but also two, when you're most of the ads that people are running on Facebook right
01:00:45.260 now, there's a place in there to write when you're writing your ad copy.
01:00:49.140 I think now is really important to like show your personality and also to people appreciate
01:00:55.720 imperfection.
01:00:56.680 So when you write an ad with perfect grammar, perfect spacing, perfect punctuation, it actually
01:01:01.740 creates distrust.
01:01:02.740 I'll point something out.
01:01:03.540 Whether you like Obama or Trump, if you go to any Toastmasters across the country, everybody
01:01:07.460 tells you never say, um, if you say, um, while you're giving a speech, it shows uncertainty
01:01:12.480 and it's a bad look.
01:01:13.680 They, they teach this and they've been preaching it forever.
01:01:15.760 Obama comes in and he goes, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, and then you have,
01:01:22.220 and then you have Donald who comes in and says all kinds of shit and perfect, like grammatical
01:01:26.880 errors, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
01:01:27.980 And people fucking trust them.
01:01:29.800 Bro, how the fuck do you think that?
01:01:31.280 People value imperfection.
01:01:32.100 I'm, I am, if you, if you go by Toastmasters standards, I'm the worst fucking speaker ever.
01:01:37.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:01:37.980 Yeah, but I guarantee you there ain't a motherfucker out there teaching Toastmasters that makes it
01:01:41.720 a year where I'm making one speech.
01:01:43.260 That's what I'm saying.
01:01:44.160 Like I went recently, I was like, this is so interesting, but like, uh, but nonetheless,
01:01:48.380 everyone just like people value imperfection.
01:01:50.000 So when you're writing your advertisements, like when you have that perfect video and there's
01:01:53.560 no stutters, there's no arms, you don't say something stupid.
01:01:56.100 There's no awkward looking moment that actually hurts your conversions.
01:01:58.580 And I can tell you that that's across like all industries.
01:02:00.580 Like people want to see the human side and know they're buying from a person, which is
01:02:04.220 the theme kind of of this episode.
01:02:05.440 That's why people love bloopers, you know, at the end of a movie or at the end of a crush
01:02:08.760 or let's throw them in at the end of a movie.
01:02:10.140 Yes, that's real.
01:02:10.480 You know, like let's, let's talk, let's talk about Tai Lopez, Tai Lopez, love him or hate
01:02:15.380 him.
01:02:15.620 I don't know him, never met him.
01:02:17.640 I really, it's really irrelevant to what I'm going to say.
01:02:21.380 What one of the most famous fucking ads on YouTube.
01:02:24.060 And by the way, he, for a long time, and he might still be the most, uh, the biggest advertiser
01:02:29.600 on YouTube, but his fucking ad, everybody knows his ad.
01:02:34.200 Hey, here in my garage.
01:02:35.100 Here I am in my garage.
01:02:36.260 It's the most, it's the most, honestly, you can call it.
01:02:38.660 It's probably the most famous ad of all time.
01:02:40.560 Yeah.
01:02:41.040 And it's made on a fucking cell phone.
01:02:44.000 Here I am in my garage, guys.
01:02:45.760 You know what I value more than cars?
01:02:48.480 Knowledge.
01:02:49.280 Everybody knows it.
01:02:50.440 And here's what a lot of people don't realize.
01:02:51.940 And so like, I love him or hate him.
01:02:54.000 That is a brilliant fucking ad.
01:02:56.480 And this is brilliant.
01:02:57.180 And if people are mocking you, that's a good side.
01:02:59.020 You know, like if there's all sorts of spoofs and stuff, that's a good side.
01:03:02.220 But here's the thing about Ty, too, that people don't realize, and we've, we've like, uh, hung
01:03:05.800 out a few times and shit, is this.
01:03:08.820 A lot of people see that, and because of the style, it's like, hey, he kind of just put
01:03:12.920 it out there.
01:03:13.660 But when you guys are advertising, another mistake that people are making is, and Ty
01:03:16.920 will say this too, is you're not experimenting enough.
01:03:19.420 So people don't realize it took him almost 30 different ads for that one to finally blow up.
01:03:24.980 So even though it was his cell phone, he experiments more than ever, which is why his ads win.
01:03:30.100 Because like, Kim and his brother, their whole operation, dude, they're fucking, they're
01:03:33.220 fucking machines.
01:03:34.020 Like, they fucking test, they test, they test, they test, they test.
01:03:36.640 If something works, they go all in.
01:03:37.520 And if it doesn't, they fucking back up.
01:03:38.940 So it's crazy.
01:03:39.720 Which is vintage, classic direct response advertising.
01:03:42.860 Yep, exactly.
01:03:43.520 You fucking write, you test, you put the money behind the shit that works.
01:03:46.760 And that's why speed's so important.
01:03:48.120 So when you guys are like lollygagging, like, oh, this isn't right.
01:03:50.240 The worst thing you could ever do is have a partner and talk with your team
01:03:54.380 and discuss if something's going to work.
01:03:56.560 The numbers dictate.
01:03:57.920 Fuck your opinion.
01:03:58.760 And not only that, dude, let's be real, dude.
01:04:01.160 When you start running anything by committee, what happens is, is the fucking final product
01:04:05.640 comes out so watered down that nobody likes it.
01:04:08.140 Yeah.
01:04:08.780 You know, because then I got your opinion and I got your opinion and I got Europe and
01:04:12.460 I got fucking Susie's opinion.
01:04:13.920 It's tough.
01:04:14.500 And everybody doesn't like this about this about this.
01:04:16.600 And you end up with some shit that nobody pays attention to.
01:04:18.520 Yep.
01:04:18.900 A hundred percent.
01:04:19.260 So I wouldn't run anything by committee.
01:04:21.240 That's the whole problem with a lot of our government, to be completely honest.
01:04:24.600 I agree with that.
01:04:25.240 But, uh, but yeah, dude.
01:04:27.180 So closing thought, let's just, let's just try to get these people to a place where the
01:04:36.620 best value that we can offer them right here on a closing thought.
01:04:40.180 I'm going to hit you guys with some real shit because most of the people listening to this
01:04:43.600 podcast, my guess is that you're here because you want to make money.
01:04:46.560 And I genuinely want you to ask yourself, what can you do that others cannot?
01:04:53.840 And usually within that answer, you realize why you don't have any money because you didn't
01:04:59.500 acquire enough skills to be able to solve a big enough problem to pay you what you really
01:05:04.620 want to make.
01:05:05.560 So right now, like I can pay a company, you know, they'll pay me 30 to 50 K to go sit
01:05:10.280 there for four hours to look at their fucking YouTube ads.
01:05:12.200 But when I started, they'd pay me $50 because that's what I was worth.
01:05:18.020 So the second tier to that is be grossly honest with yourself.
01:05:21.060 We have a very bad tendency as entrepreneurs to rational lies.
01:05:25.980 We lie to ourselves about where we at, what's happening, how good we are.
01:05:29.740 We talked about this yesterday, dude.
01:05:30.840 Yeah, man.
01:05:31.380 Like I, I think I suck.
01:05:33.300 Yes, exactly.
01:05:34.340 And that's why you're always getting better.
01:05:35.400 Yeah.
01:05:35.780 And too many people come in with that arrogant of like, you're so good.
01:05:38.660 It's like, dude, if you were so good, you wouldn't have the problems that you fucking
01:05:41.960 have.
01:05:42.560 So be honest with yourself.
01:05:43.620 And then once you're honest with yourself, you realize, Hey, score yourself.
01:05:46.700 I'm not good at this.
01:05:47.700 Guess this.
01:05:48.480 Then you seek out mentors or coaches, but not just in general, find somebody who's good
01:05:53.960 at solving that one problem.
01:05:55.420 So for example, I have a different strategic coach than I do a spiritual coach.
01:05:59.960 Then I do a direct response coach.
01:06:01.820 Then I do someone who's all about culture.
01:06:03.520 You have to understand, like, usually everybody has one thing that they're fucking fantastic
01:06:08.560 at.
01:06:09.020 And over time they'll have some other really good straights, but everybody has like their
01:06:12.400 one hot sauce.
01:06:13.360 My one hot sauce is that I can create a video to sell anything.
01:06:15.940 That's like my thing.
01:06:16.960 Doesn't mean I'm not good at other things.
01:06:17.960 It's a pretty good, it's a pretty good hot sauce to have though, bro.
01:06:19.720 It's a good hot sauce to have right now.
01:06:21.240 Yeah.
01:06:21.740 But yeah, so everyone here, like, dude, find the right people to solve your problems.
01:06:25.280 Don't waste time trying to figure out shit yourself.
01:06:27.780 You think you're saving money.
01:06:28.520 You think you're saving time, but you're really putting yourself out of business.
01:06:31.080 Right.
01:06:31.420 It's the truth.
01:06:31.920 Yep.
01:06:32.080 Yep.
01:06:32.200 Yep.
01:06:32.400 Well, dude, first of all, this has been one of my favorite podcasts.
01:06:36.480 It's been fucking funny.
01:06:37.020 Yeah, because dude, fucking fireball.
01:06:38.340 I've had some cool guests, but like, like copywriting and marketing and branding and
01:06:44.140 all this shit is what I like.
01:06:46.020 It's what my passion is.
01:06:46.760 Wait, let me touch on branding because you mentioned that shit earlier.
01:06:49.300 Yeah.
01:06:49.780 So explain to people that they need both.
01:06:51.840 You need both, right?
01:06:53.040 So for everyone listening, and if you haven't seen any of our video ads, we'll include a link
01:06:56.420 so they can see some of our fun ones.
01:06:57.920 We like go all out for these video ads.
01:06:59.420 But then a lot of people say, Billy, why do you go all out on these video ads?
01:07:02.880 Because then you have people like Ty who are like, dude, I'm killing it just on my cell
01:07:05.360 phone.
01:07:05.620 Because when we go all out and I run a pirate ship for a video or I do a parody of the wolf of paid
01:07:10.600 advertiser, the wolf of Wall Street, people fucking remember us.
01:07:14.840 So I can do all the ads of the world that are just whatever.
01:07:17.460 For you guys that might not know, that's called branding.
01:07:19.880 That's branding.
01:07:20.700 Okay.
01:07:20.900 It's being fucking remembered.
01:07:21.820 And direct response is running an ad with a, desiring a direct response of the sale.
01:07:29.040 Yep.
01:07:29.260 So to sell some shit today.
01:07:30.900 Exactly.
01:07:31.180 I want you to buy this now, click here, buy this shit.
01:07:33.420 That's direct response.
01:07:35.020 Branding is Billy dancing around with his team to where people walk up in the restaurant
01:07:39.900 like they did yesterday and say, hey dude, I fucking love you.
01:07:42.600 I love your fucking videos.
01:07:43.700 It's crazy, man.
01:07:44.460 Like, so if all of you want to be remembered, you want to be impacted.
01:07:46.600 I know there's a lot of people who are into coaching.
01:07:47.480 And how does that sell something?
01:07:48.300 Remember the kid that came in yesterday, Julius, I think his name was, he came up and
01:07:53.180 he said, bro, he actually hit me up in the bathroom.
01:07:55.800 He's like, dude, that's Billy Jean, right?
01:07:57.500 I said, fuck yeah.
01:07:58.340 He goes, I go, come over and say hi.
01:08:00.580 What's he get?
01:08:01.220 Do you remember what he told us he's going to do?
01:08:02.800 He's going to college.
01:08:03.560 Going to college for what?
01:08:04.680 Business.
01:08:05.140 Business.
01:08:05.780 And guess what's going to happen whenever he decides he wants to get good at marketing
01:08:09.280 and advertising?
01:08:10.160 He's going to stumble around this way.
01:08:11.260 And he's going to buy your shit.
01:08:12.400 So branding, just because it doesn't sell something today, still creates customers long
01:08:19.700 term.
01:08:20.180 And you need both.
01:08:21.200 And if you want to be in business a long time, that's always a good strategy.
01:08:24.440 Other thing with being remembered, a quick power tip, just YouTube ads are such a good
01:08:27.740 way to do it because they can't be skipped and it's the sole focus.
01:08:30.100 When you do a video ad on Facebook, there's so many distractions around, but on YouTube,
01:08:34.020 you take up the whole screen there.
01:08:35.520 So from a brand recognition, that has been bigger for us than anything.
01:08:39.000 Our ads have been seen like 200 million times on YouTube.
01:08:41.880 So virtually every time I'm out, I get recognized because of YouTube.
01:08:44.640 So if you're not spending money on YouTube ads or building your brand on YouTube ads, I'm
01:08:48.140 fucking telling you to do it because you're leaving money on the table.
01:08:50.300 Yeah.
01:08:50.500 And nobody's doing it.
01:08:51.740 No one's doing it.
01:08:52.340 It's wide open.
01:08:53.200 We do have to take a moment to say, if you want to see some of Billie Jean's incredible
01:08:57.440 ads, go to your website or wherever you prefer.
01:09:00.520 But yeah, BillieJeanIsMarketing.com.
01:09:02.960 Check this out.
01:09:03.460 Go to our YouTube.
01:09:03.940 They're highly entertaining.
01:09:05.200 Like I love them.
01:09:06.140 No, they're fucking great.
01:09:07.020 They are.
01:09:07.640 I mean, they're all around.
01:09:09.000 They're effective.
01:09:09.700 They're entertaining.
01:09:10.500 They're educational.
01:09:11.320 Dude, I wouldn't have somebody sitting here if it wasn't great.
01:09:13.460 No, no.
01:09:13.480 Because in the marketing and advertising branding space, I'm hugely critical.
01:09:19.120 Probably like you are too.
01:09:20.140 Yeah.
01:09:20.320 Like I look at everybody's shit.
01:09:21.220 Especially with it being your background.
01:09:22.400 Yeah.
01:09:22.420 Like bro, that shit sucks.
01:09:24.000 Yeah.
01:09:24.140 Like what the fuck are you doing?
01:09:25.420 So like, I appreciate what you're doing, man.
01:09:28.000 I appreciate you guys.
01:09:28.720 I mean, honestly, if you guys haven't been to this office in St. Louis, man, I just want
01:09:33.080 to shout you out for a second and commend you guys.
01:09:35.640 Like you showed me the office earlier.
01:09:37.340 I mean, fuck, you walk in here and I'm just like, these motherfuckers really got it going
01:09:41.440 on.
01:09:41.640 There's system, there's process, there's culture.
01:09:43.420 You can feel it right away.
01:09:44.820 It's just inspiring, you know?
01:09:46.220 Thank you, man.
01:09:46.400 And so like, I feel like I need to go work.
01:09:49.400 Very blessed with great, as much as I say, oh, we made everybody, the one thing that you
01:09:56.080 can't make is people's hearts.
01:09:57.420 Yeah.
01:09:57.640 And we've been blessed to have a fuckload of good-hearted people in this office.
01:10:01.420 And you can feel it.
01:10:02.420 Yeah.
01:10:02.520 So you should be really proud, man.
01:10:03.580 This is fucking amazing.
01:10:04.380 Thank you, brother.
01:10:05.020 Yeah.
01:10:05.520 So guys, that's the show.
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