REAL AF with Andy Frisella - Tough Questions About Success, Honest Answers About Struggle, with Andy Frisella

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, this is Vaughn Kohler and you're listening to the MFCEO Project.

00:00:04.180 Would you like to hear Oprah interview the MFCEO? Maybe Barbara Walters? That's not going to happen

00:00:09.100 today. But in this episode, I get Andy to talk a little bit more about what he really believes

00:00:13.940 and what he really thinks about everything from the average person's chances of success

00:00:18.360 to what happens when an entrepreneur feels lonely and isolated. That's today's podcast. Brace

00:00:24.600 yourselves. Hey guys, what's up? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm your host, Andy Frisella,

00:00:48.620 and I am the motherfucking CEO. I'm here with my handsome co-host, Mr. Clean. I mean, Vaughn Kohler.

00:00:56.800 Professor X. Professor X. Vaughn the Impaler. DJ, DJ God. Gotta have the reverb. What's up, brother?

00:01:04.060 Dude, how's life treating you? Life is incredible. It is. Based on last week. Yeah, that was fun.

00:01:09.160 And we're what? Like two weeks into the, what are we, three weeks into the year? 2016? I don't know.

00:01:13.600 I don't know. Dude, you know that like when you're a kid and you're, you know, old people are like,

00:01:18.840 man, life goes so much faster. It fucking does, man. That is so weird. Like when you're a kid,

00:01:23.300 you're like in a hurry to like get to be like 20 so you can like go do shit. Yeah. And then when you

00:01:28.260 get to be like 30, you're like, fuck, I wish I could stay in my 20s. I think like the 20s is like

00:01:31.980 the thing. Yeah. You know? 30s are good too, though. You know when you're little and something

00:01:35.640 really good happens, like the best looking girl in the school like says, I don't know, that she'll go out

00:01:40.440 with you or something and you, you, you can't keep yourself from smiling, but you look ridiculous

00:01:44.780 because you're smiling so big. I don't know if you watch the whole Daily Vee, but that's what I

00:01:49.360 look like in the Daily Vee video. I'm not sure what you're referring to. Like that, you're supposed

00:01:55.340 to keep your pimp face on, dude. I know, but I had the goofiest, goofiest look on my face.

00:02:01.880 The pimp face on like it happens all the time, even if it doesn't. Go look it up. Come on, man.

00:02:05.840 Watch it on YouTube. Yeah. That was great, though. Yeah, it was fun. That was a good time. Dude, Gary,

00:02:10.000 Gary, you know, if you're listening, which I know he is, thank you so much again for having us up

00:02:16.860 there. That was a really, really good time. Been laughing about it and talking about it. You know,

00:02:20.840 dude, I just like talking to that dude. Like I told him, after we were texting back and forth and I

00:02:25.080 was like, you know, without the cameras and the microphones and all that, I said, I would have

00:02:28.840 just a fun time sitting there talking about that shit. You know what I mean? Like just having the

00:02:33.320 conversation about, about, you know, where you think things are going and what people can learn and where

00:02:38.540 they can, you know, improve. And, and I don't know, that has just always been so interesting to

00:02:44.220 me. Um, the, so I guess the game plan of how business is evolving and how we are all like in

00:02:52.560 a super exciting time because like our parents didn't get to go through this, you know what I

00:02:57.480 mean? And their parents didn't get to go through this. Um, we're getting to go through, you know,

00:03:01.860 a time where, you know, most of us, um, well, I mean, I guess if you're in your twenties, you know,

00:03:08.100 you probably had a cell phone most of your life. If you're in your thirties, you remember what it

00:03:11.880 was like without cell phones or without the internet or without, you know, those kinds of

00:03:16.860 technologies, social media and all these things that we have at our disposal. And like being a part of

00:03:23.100 this revolution in technology and evolution of business to me is just one of the most interesting

00:03:29.560 things. And I'm really like, when I stop and think like, it's really cool to think like how

00:03:37.580 we get to be a part of that. Oh, absolutely. You know what I mean? It's so exciting to me. I don't

00:03:41.520 know what it is, man. It's a crack. It's very exciting. I almost texted you about this, but did

00:03:45.300 you pick up on what, uh, prediction he made that came true about three days later? What? It was a

00:03:51.100 major prediction. Yeah. He, he predicted there was going to be a big economic meltdown. And three days

00:03:56.520 later, the stock market, I big headlines that it melted down. Wall street was reeling according

00:04:02.780 to one, uh, one new store. So I read the dude, the dude's plugged in, you know, I said it today

00:04:08.840 on my, on my, he's more plugged in than anybody I've ever met in terms of what the fuck is going

00:04:13.480 on to the point where, you know, it's hard to imagine somebody being on top of that much

00:04:21.280 shit. You know what I mean? Like when I met him the first time we went up to New York and

00:04:25.660 I mean, the dude's taking meetings at 11 o'clock at night. That's not bullshit. I've

00:04:28.660 seen it happen. Yeah. You know what I mean? And to, you know, the guys, he's, he's a phenomenal

00:04:34.380 dude. I mean, he's on top of things. He's plugged in, he's plugged into all different kinds

00:04:38.380 of businesses all over the globe. You know, I, I just, you know, I think he's just a phenomenal

00:04:43.960 exception of exceptional person. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to put you on the

00:04:48.340 spot. I know you're a lifelong learner. Was there something in that time we spent with Gary

00:04:53.100 last week where you actually learned something that maybe you hadn't heard him say before,

00:04:57.660 or maybe he said something in a different way that you're like, man, that I'm going to

00:05:02.380 add that to my, you know, reservoir of knowledge. No, not really. Um, and I don't mean that to

00:05:11.540 sound like arrogant, like the dude's got plenty of knowledge, but I feel like I got a comment

00:05:16.960 today. Okay. From somebody who said, dude, I, I, I love your, you know, your posts on Instagram.

00:05:21.500 I listened to the podcast for the first time. It was like super high energy. It was super

00:05:25.940 exciting. It was super, uh, you know, enthusiastic, but, but the message was sort of like all over

00:05:31.140 the place. And, you know, it was hard for me to take away what you were trying to get

00:05:35.800 at. And that's what happens when you put somebody like myself and somebody like him at the same

00:05:40.800 table, you know, we're, we're, we're thinking along the same lines all the time. And, um,

00:05:46.180 you know, the things he says and some of the things I say, they're not always said exactly

00:05:54.280 the same, but the, the, the train of thought I feel like is so, is very parallel. So, you

00:05:58.980 know, I don't know. I think as far as that conversation was concerned, I didn't, you know,

00:06:04.300 it was more just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I agree. I agree. I agree. And if you listen

00:06:08.400 to the podcast, you'll hear that, you know, like he's talking, I'm like, yeah. And then I'm

00:06:11.940 talking to, he's like, dude, I agree a hundred percent. It was more like that. It wasn't

00:06:15.260 so much like, Hey, have you thought about this, this, and this, you know what I mean?

00:06:19.920 Yeah, absolutely. And it causes you to like internally reflect on. And when we went to

00:06:24.740 dinner, that, that was more of how it was going. You know, he was asking me shit. I

00:06:28.100 was asking him shit and, um, it was good. It was good. And I imagine that when we do

00:06:32.220 March 8th and we do the Q and a, there'll be some of that live to where people could see

00:06:36.480 it. Yeah. You know, cause there are going to be things that we disagree on. And Gary's

00:06:39.720 not a guy who is afraid to disagree. And he also respects people who disagree and

00:06:45.580 respects that viewpoint. You know, he's not like, Oh, you're wrong. It's more

00:06:48.240 like, okay, well, we'll, we'll see. You know what I mean? Right. And, um, you

00:06:51.580 know, I'm not somebody who's going to just go along with the flow either. Well, and

00:06:54.700 with all due respect to whoever told you that, I do think that part of, part of a

00:06:58.700 skill that you had, you have to learn to develop in life is not just to listen to

00:07:02.660 something and have to follow an outline. You have to do what I, what I call

00:07:06.380 panning for gold. You have to learn to pan for gold. And when you're

00:07:09.000 listening to a, to a, to a conversation like the one that was going on between

00:07:12.500 you and Gary, you don't just look for a specific like linear outline. You really

00:07:16.760 try to take in the whole thing and you try to pluck out the real nuggets. And I

00:07:19.880 think, I think you have to learn how to do that. That's what I would tell that

00:07:23.100 person. Look, you're talking about all different kinds of people. I mean, we're

00:07:27.280 putting this out there for the world. Not, it's not like we get to pick it like, Hey,

00:07:31.100 we're going to pick the people who only understand our type of communication. You know what I

00:07:35.780 mean? Some people, I mean, you look at day to day, look on fucking Facebook for an

00:07:40.760 hour and look at the different levels of like communication and interpretation and

00:07:45.820 to be frank intelligence. Right. I mean, there's just a fucking big variation there. You know,

00:07:50.700 you know, or somebody like myself or Gary or you, or, you know, we're talking about big

00:07:56.080 fucking themes in the business world. You know, there's people who fucking are talking

00:07:59.700 about like, you know, the super value meal McDonald's going up five cents. Like that's

00:08:05.080 their fucking highlight. So, I mean, you have to remember when people criticize you, you

00:08:10.140 have to remember like, and I'm not saying that everybody that criticizes you is an

00:08:14.400 unintelligent cause they're not, but you have to take it with a grain of salt. Right. You

00:08:18.380 know, if there's some truth there, you know, there's some truth there. Right. That's

00:08:21.160 being self-aware, you know, is there so, is there a good point there that you could take

00:08:24.580 away to improve? If so, great. If it's just some nonsense, you know, it's, that's what

00:08:30.660 it is. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I did ask you before the, uh, the recording session started, if

00:08:35.960 you had a question of the day, you said, no, you said you have a statement of the day.

00:08:39.160 Yeah, I do have a statement of the day. I got a, I got a trolling comment and I want

00:08:42.860 to address it on my, uh, I posted a picture this weekend. By the time you listen to this,

00:08:47.920 I will have already done the first, um, revolution tour stop with my good buddy, Sean Whalen

00:08:53.340 in park city, Utah at Sundance film festival. That's this Saturday. Um, I got, I post a

00:09:00.540 picture of him and I standing there and, uh, leaning against my roles and we're, we're

00:09:05.120 just, you know, I just said, Hey, you know, the Saturday, blah, blah, blah, blah. And some

00:09:08.360 fucking kid wrote, you know what? I think it's funny that you drive all these nice cars and

00:09:15.240 throw it in everybody's face, but you can't even afford real shorts. You got to go buy these

00:09:19.540 fucking shitty Walmart shorts. Like make, so like, I'm like, first of all, go back to

00:09:25.260 trolling school motherfucker. Cause that was weak. Second of all, this was a point that

00:09:30.220 I wanted to like make to you guys. Okay. You guys see entrepreneurs and you think like,

00:09:37.560 like I see this shit on the internet all the time. Like you think like that show Mad Men

00:09:42.040 or made, what is it? Mad Men? Yeah. Is it where they're all wearing fucking suits and

00:09:46.300 like everybody's going through, you know, hustling and like, you know, like look in

00:09:51.520 this certain way, look in this certain way, we're in $10,000 suits with $3,000 shirts and

00:09:56.560 $15,000 shoes and walking through and like being a big baller and all this shit. Let me tell

00:10:01.580 you something. I don't know one fucking person. And I know a lot of millionaires, a lot, a lot,

00:10:06.600 a lot. And I don't know a few billionaires. I don't know one motherfucker that dresses

00:10:10.700 like that or acts like that. All of them, all of them do whatever the fuck they want.

00:10:15.560 So like you guys who like, cause I see these memes on the internet who say like, Oh, dress

00:10:20.660 the part and you'll become successful. Fuck dude. If you're wearing a fucking suit every

00:10:24.620 day, it's because somebody else is making you wear a fucking suit every day, motherfucker.

00:10:29.340 So think about that. When I wear my Walmart shorts, when I drive around in my fucking Rolls

00:10:33.020 Royce and by the way, they're not Walmart, they're Gander mountain. Nice. But it's the truth.

00:10:37.680 No, no. There's no fucking standard for like what you need to look like or what you need

00:10:42.080 to. Now, when you talk about a personal branding standpoint, yes. And you know what? I've made

00:10:46.860 that my personal brand on purpose. The real dude who fucking actually is a real dude. You

00:10:52.260 know what I mean? I go buy them. What am I wearing now? Fucking seven year old Under Armour

00:10:56.640 sweatshirt. It should have been fucking thrown away a year ago. Now to your put cowboy boots

00:11:01.120 in your Lambo. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Like, dude, you should be comfortable with who the

00:11:05.000 fuck you are. You know, I didn't grow up wearing fucking nice clothes. I do. When I grew

00:11:09.540 up, you know, there was these canvas polo shoes that like came in every color. This is like

00:11:16.240 when I was like seventh grade. You remember that? Remember those shoes? Did they also

00:11:19.040 come in checkered? Yeah, they were like shoes. Yeah, get them at Dillard's and yeah. And

00:11:23.080 like they got cool for like a year. Right. And then like I always wanted them and dude, our

00:11:29.580 family couldn't afford them, you know, and like I wanted them because I wanted to be cool and

00:11:33.100 I never got them. But then I got them the next year and I wore them to school, but they

00:11:36.860 were not cool anymore. And I got made fun of for wearing them. But dude, that's where

00:11:39.900 I come from. I come from a fucking, you know, regular family. I don't come from some blue

00:11:44.520 blood bullshit. I'm going to wear fucking $5,000 pants. Bullshit. Right. So fuck you

00:11:50.280 if you don't like my shorts. Right. Well, I think you're in good company because the greatest

00:11:53.520 creative, uh, creative business and marketing genius of our time who just died a couple of

00:11:58.640 years ago, we're the same thing every day. Yeah. But that's the black, black mock turtleneck

00:12:03.480 and ratty jeans. Yeah. My point to this is not Steve jobs. Just in case y'all are wondering,

00:12:07.660 my point to this is not to like go off on this comment. It's that it's to attack the misconception

00:12:14.640 that you young guys and young girls think, okay, is it good to make a good impression?

00:12:19.480 Yes, it is. But dude, that's not what business is about. A lot of people think business is about

00:12:25.020 having a nice office and a fucking suit and like the, you know, because like, dude, when you put

00:12:29.980 on a suit, you feel fucking pimp. Like, dude, you know, it feels good. But the thing is, is that

00:12:34.140 that's not what it is. People get caught up in the, in playing business. Okay. And what playing

00:12:39.540 business is, is like exactly what it sounds like. It's playing business. It's playing a part. It's

00:12:43.840 playing a role. They get caught up in that instead of actually producing a product or producing a

00:12:48.500 service or building something, you know, just cause you have a nice suit with a nice office and a nice

00:12:54.600 desk and, and all these other, you know, a nice pen, a fucking $200 pen or whatever. It doesn't

00:12:59.740 mean you're going to be successful. That's playing business. The most successful guys I know don't

00:13:05.040 give a fuck about what they wear. They do whatever they want. They wear whatever they want, wherever

00:13:09.800 they want, but they get shit done. That's the point I'm trying to make. Yeah. You know what I mean?

00:13:15.020 Yeah. So guys don't fucking get super obsessed with like, you know, if you're into fashion,

00:13:20.860 good. I'm not dogging on anybody that's like into fashion. If that's what you're into,

00:13:24.140 be fashionable. That's cool. I don't like coral shorts. Yeah. Tyler's into the coral shorts.

00:13:29.380 Dude. Tyler used to be in a neon so much so that like in my email, it says Tyler neon

00:13:35.200 Hegley, like as my fucking emails when I send it to him. Like, so like, that's a true story.

00:13:40.280 Yeah. So like, you know, but the point is I'm not dogging fashion where whatever the fuck you

00:13:45.260 are. If you're a dude who like loves dressing up and looking like a bad-ass dude, good. That's

00:13:51.120 cool. But I'm just telling you like, it's not, that is not something you have to do

00:13:55.920 to be successful. You know what I mean? That's what I'm getting. You have to execute. Right.

00:14:00.600 You know what I mean? It's yeah. So I just thought that was so funny because the guy was

00:14:04.740 like 20 years old and he's like, you know, at 20 years old, you know, you know how it

00:14:08.320 is. You fucking know everything. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. When you're younger, you think you're

00:14:12.680 know everything and you think you're immortal. Yeah. I think you're never going to die.

00:14:15.620 I like dude, my dad, my dad, dude, you would never fucking know ever. If you look to him

00:14:25.280 that he, what he's done in his life business wise, you know, the dude wears a fucking Harley

00:14:30.620 Davidson shirt with holes in it and jean shorts and fuck, you know, cause he doesn't have anything

00:14:37.600 to prove to anybody. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that's what people should aspire

00:14:42.540 to. Dude, that's what I'm saying. Just be comfortable being you. For sure. Don't have

00:14:46.360 to conform. For sure. Well, guys, I'm wearing right now, dude. I'm wearing free fucking sweat

00:14:51.860 pants that I got from my, from my fucking clothes store out there in the warehouse. I'm wearing

00:14:57.380 a free hat and I'm wearing a sweatshirt that I literally have had since 2006 or whatever.

00:15:03.240 Dude, I'm, I'm, I'm, I honestly, I'm not trying to brown nose you, but you look thinner

00:15:06.460 already. Oh dude, I'm busted ass. Yeah. I'm fucking killing it, dude. I haven't, I haven't

00:15:12.020 cheated. I I've not missed a workout. I mean, I don't know how much I'm down, but I know

00:15:16.620 I'm down. Yeah. That's awesome. But dude, I got a long way to go. I got, I got to lose

00:15:19.620 70 pounds. Yeah. I fucking was a lot heavier than I thought I was. Like I was like 30 pounds

00:15:25.600 off. Like most people are like 30 pounds. Like that's like another person. I was like 30 pounds

00:15:31.140 off on my guess of weight. So it's okay though. It's a dog. It's not another person, but maybe

00:15:36.360 a small dog. Yeah. It's a small fat dog. Yeah, exactly. So, um, well guys, I, uh, I kind

00:15:44.440 of convinced Andy that we were going to do something a little bit, a little bit different

00:15:47.020 today. And, uh, you know, 2016 is already picking up. I mean, it's blowing up. We had

00:15:52.640 the Gary V thing last week and got the Sean Whalen thing for Andy next week. And then,

00:15:57.660 and then just soon after that, we've got March 8th and that huge event. And one of the things

00:16:02.400 that I wanted to do is that, well, I'll just throw this out to Andy. I mean, you know,

00:16:06.980 that every industry has its dark side, right? Yeah. Right. So your, your industry, your fitness

00:16:12.100 industry, it has a dark side, right? Right. Well, I would argue that the motivation space

00:16:17.860 has a dark side too. There's a lot of BS. Another one with the worst one ever. Yeah. A lot

00:16:22.220 of BS, a lot of narcissism, a lot of what's in it for me. And, uh, I, I don't call that.

00:16:27.280 They call it a Messiah syndrome or something. Yeah. Like a self-help Messiah.

00:16:32.060 Yeah. Like you're fucking, you know, Messiah complex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought

00:16:37.740 what would be, what would be good and actually really advantageous to the people who listen

00:16:41.780 to this podcast would be to like literally put you on the witness stand, so to speak. Um,

00:16:48.420 you know, dude, let me touch on that too. Like the Messiah complex, you know, like we talked

00:16:52.540 about on the last episode, if you haven't listened, go back and listen, but we talked about this.

00:16:56.700 We talked about people who fucking decide they're going to be quote unquote self-help or quote

00:17:01.820 unquote motivation or quote unquote business experts. They haven't ever fucking done anything.

00:17:06.260 Right. You know what I mean? Right. And Gary and I talk about this all the time because

00:17:10.240 the inner Instagram especially is just fucking flooded with people who have never really owned

00:17:17.300 a real company other than like selling shares on their Instagram page. And then they're like,

00:17:22.080 Oh yeah, I'm a fucking baller. It's like, dude. Right. And they take advantage of people's

00:17:26.340 desire to better themselves. So what I thought I would do is I, I, I, I want, like I said,

00:17:31.520 I want to put Andy on the witness stand. I, you know, if we had a, not, not that we need one,

00:17:35.740 but if we had one, we could hook you up to one of those lie detectors and maybe you can put your

00:17:39.400 hand on a Bible. And I'm going to ask you some tough questions about the things that you believe

00:17:43.700 and the things that you think. And I just want you to, in some ways, this is going to be a recap,

00:17:48.160 but in some ways it's going to be like just a moment of reflection before we get really,

00:17:51.920 really heavy into, um, 2016 and guys, again, I mean, I am going to ask questions in an orderly

00:17:58.220 way, but you know, if you're looking for like a specific point by point outline, you're not going

00:18:02.200 to get it. If that's a problem, just turn it off right now. But if you, if you're in for some fire

00:18:05.720 and for some help for, feel free to use your own fucking brain. Yeah. If you're in for some fire

00:18:10.180 or some helpful information, then keep listening. So Andy, first question you've written and

00:18:14.520 actually you've done a podcast before where you say success is your obligation. Greatness is your

00:18:20.540 obligation. I read a Facebook post of yours, uh, a couple, couple of weeks ago where you said,

00:18:26.120 you know, we're always told we can be anything we want. And you said that you believe that and you

00:18:31.980 said that success is for everybody. So I'm asking you straight out. Do you really believe that?

00:18:40.660 I do. Um, I was interviewed yesterday by a cool new podcast, um, bite size radio.

00:18:50.520 Uh, which is run by a friend of mine, um, who is bite size fitness on, uh, Instagram. Um,

00:18:59.500 she asked me a very similar question and I just had a conversation out here in the lobby while you

00:19:05.320 guys were waiting for me with an old buddy from high school. Okay. About the same subject. Um,

00:19:10.960 I drove my, my Lamborghini today. Um, it's supposed to fucking snow. I'm just letting everybody know,

00:19:18.080 it is snowing. Is it? Well, I'm just letting everybody know because I want to explain something.

00:19:26.500 My friend, he's like, we were talking about cars and he was asking me what all I had and I was going

00:19:31.920 through and explaining, you know, just letting him know. And he's like, dude, there's not many cars

00:19:36.560 here in St. Louis. Is there? And I'm like, no, there's a lot of cars in St. Louis. It's just that

00:19:39.880 people don't drive them. And he's like, why? And I'm like, because they're afraid of what people are

00:19:44.020 going to say to him. And they're afraid of like, you know, looking showy or becoming a jerk or

00:19:49.220 looking like they're trying to throw shit in people's face. And I said, Hey, look, dude. I

00:19:54.120 said, every time I go get gas in a Lambo, fucking 10 little kids run up and ask their mom and dads

00:20:01.080 take pictures of the car every time. Okay. And those kids always ask the same questions. They

00:20:08.600 always say, man, that car is so cool. What is it? And I'm like, Oh, it's this, this, and

00:20:13.320 this. And they're like, well, how much does it cost? I'm like, well, you know, you got

00:20:16.400 to, I just defer it. I'm like, look, you had to work really hard to have a car like this.

00:20:21.040 They're like, well, what kind of work? And they get interested in like the work. Okay. And

00:20:25.200 they get their little, their, their little brains moving. Like, Hey man, that's cool. And

00:20:30.120 it like turns a switch. You could see it. Like I've seen it a million times and where people

00:20:34.940 think like doing something like that is going to, is going to cause like a lot of negativity.

00:20:39.280 It's actually the opposite. It's, it's people are interested, even older people that come

00:20:43.020 up. I'm sure there's people who like from afar that don't come up. They're like, fuck

00:20:46.480 that guy. But dude, those people are going to lose no matter what, who cares? All right.

00:20:50.400 So the, what I'm getting at here on the obligation part is that dude, if you're too much of a pussy

00:20:56.960 to like go out and be successful, cause you're afraid of what people might say, you're not only

00:21:01.140 letting yourself down, you're letting your family down. You're letting all these people that

00:21:04.920 you don't even know down. You're letting like, basically you're, you're, you're, you know,

00:21:10.540 I don't know, diffusing or deteriorating or I don't know what the word is. You can help

00:21:15.000 me here, you know, but you're like taking away the value of like your, you're denigrating

00:21:20.000 your life. Huh? You're denigrating the value of your life. Whatever. I mean, you're fucking,

00:21:24.320 you're, you're diluting it. You know what I'm saying? And, uh, and you know, you have to

00:21:31.640 think about, you know, how much easier it is to like just fall in line and follow the

00:21:36.780 path and do what you're supposed to do. Even though you want to be successful and you want

00:21:43.500 nice things and you want to drive a nice car and you want to live in a nice house and

00:21:46.720 you want to be able to help other people. Well, if you want to help other people, you can't

00:21:50.220 fucking help anybody. If you're not helping yourself first, you know what I mean? What's

00:21:54.160 more, what's more valuable? You writing a hundred dollar check living on a, you know, a

00:21:58.260 me, a mediocre salary because that's what you could afford or writing a hundred thousand

00:22:01.440 dollar check because you went out and worked your fucking ass off and took care of yourself

00:22:04.560 first. You know what I mean? And so like a lot of people will, will, will hide behind

00:22:09.480 these bullshit excuses about why, you know, they don't want to be successful. But you know,

00:22:14.300 I bet every one of those motherfuckers bought a Powerball ticket recently, you know, but, but

00:22:18.320 yeah, I do believe it's for everybody because I believe your story of your life and the purpose

00:22:23.160 of that story should be to provide lessons and hope for the future generations, whether

00:22:28.860 that be your own kids or people who see you or whatever, you know, like when I was a little

00:22:33.700 kid, you know, I told this story before, you know, my dad and I went to get gas and we saw

00:22:38.460 a Lamborghini Countach at the gas station. And I was like, Holy cow, that is coolest thing

00:22:42.740 ever. And what did my dad say? That's awesome. You're going to have to work really fucking

00:22:46.180 hard to do that. You know what I did for the rest of my life since I was like eight years

00:22:49.540 old. When I saw that I worked to own a fucking Lamborghini. Now I'm here and I employ over

00:22:53.620 a hundred people and all those people have families. You see what I mean? Absolutely.

00:22:57.940 So like you have to let your, you have to be okay with stepping outside of what society

00:23:03.740 says is right. And you have to, to think of your success as not just something that's

00:23:10.940 for you. Like, Hey, I want to buy shit. And you have to think of it as an obligation to

00:23:16.220 others. Because if you think about it as just for you, you'll never make it because

00:23:20.840 it's too fucking hard. But if you put that extra pressure on, like think about your employees

00:23:25.460 and you think about the people that you can inspire and you think about the message of

00:23:29.040 the story that you're telling and, and, and all these different things, you can build a

00:23:33.160 lot of external motivation and pressure that will help you stick to the path. You know what

00:23:37.980 I mean? That's just another aspect of it. I mean, I could talk about this all day, but

00:23:41.000 at the end of the day, it is your obligation. There's a lot of people out there who have

00:23:45.480 died across, you know, how many wars have we had in the United States? We're talking

00:23:50.460 about millions of people have died to keep this country in a place where those opportunities

00:23:56.220 are still available. And for you to waste your life playing call of duty and drinking

00:24:00.920 fucking beer every day and, you know, jacking off the fucking internet instead of actually

00:24:06.460 going out and being productive, dude, you're fucking insulting those people. So when you talk

00:24:10.820 about an obligation, you're talking about an obligation for, to many, many people, you

00:24:15.480 know what I mean? This fucking flag right here, this represents fucking opportunity. You know

00:24:22.700 what I mean? And when people disrespect that, it's not just, Oh, I'm free so I can do what

00:24:28.240 I want. No, you still have obligations for that price. And that's what I believe. Like, let's

00:24:33.960 say a soldier who has died in battle. Let's say you can have a conversation with them about

00:24:38.260 the way you're living your life. And that guy comes to you and he says, Hey Vaughn,

00:24:42.600 I died so that you could have the opportunity to do this with your life. Would you be proud

00:24:48.740 of what you had to show him? Think about that. That's a thought. I don't think a lot of people

00:24:53.360 have every day. No. And I think about it all the fucking time. Yeah. You know what I mean?

00:24:56.720 And dude, this goes into like living your life with gratitude, living your life with integrity,

00:25:01.660 living your life with honor and all these different things. I mean, it goes, dude, this is like

00:25:05.620 a deep rabbit hole that we could get into. But the bottom line and the message is, is that you,

00:25:09.840 you are morally responsible and obligated to fucking be as successful as you can. Because

00:25:14.440 if you're successful as you can, you're in the position to help as many people as you can

00:25:18.400 become successful, which makes the world a better place. And I know there's a douchebags out there

00:25:22.880 right now. You're all you're justifying being rich. No motherfucker. That's how I got rich.

00:25:29.640 So, you know, we get a lot of emails. In fact, we get so many that I help you read some of

00:25:33.600 those emails. And we've got a lot of people. And guys, I mean, Andy, I can tell you right

00:25:38.940 now, Andy sometimes feels a little uncomfortable with this kind of stuff. But there are people

00:25:43.420 who write in and they're like, oh, man, you gave me hope. You know, I really I was struggling

00:25:48.020 and you helped me, you know, press on. And the word hope comes out a lot. And I think I

00:25:54.760 think that's a that's a repeated theme in a lot of the emails. And one of the things that

00:25:58.040 I was going to ask you is, you know, when people say, oh, you've given them hope or

00:26:03.600 when they're down, you you you help motivate them. You know, they might have what you call

00:26:08.420 a tombstone day and you help bring them bring them out of that. But I think one of the things

00:26:12.740 that's really lacking, and I think this is why people resonate with you so much. One

00:26:15.960 thing is things that's lacking in the in the motivational space and the self-help space

00:26:20.060 is just a real authenticity about the fact that life is not all happiness. It's not

00:26:24.040 all rainbows and unicorns, as you put it. But there's real struggle and there's real

00:26:28.500 I mean, depression sometimes. So I guess my question is, like, shoot it to you straight

00:26:33.180 and shoot it to a straight. How often do you struggle with that kind of stuff? How

00:26:37.760 often do you struggle with depression? How do you how do you deal with it? How do you

00:26:40.660 overcome struggle? How do you do? I'm gonna be real, man. Yeah, yeah. I've had I've

00:26:44.400 suffered from severe depression since I was in my 20s, like early 20s. Like I used to

00:26:50.580 think it was bullshit. I used to think it was like something that people

00:26:53.540 claimed. Like, and I don't tell people this. I mean, this is something that I

00:27:00.780 fucking tell. I don't even tell my own family. Nobody knows this shit. So I'm

00:27:03.740 being real. Like, it's something I've suffered with for a long time. And, and, you

00:27:07.880 know, I haven't really talked about it, but I will because you asked the question.

00:27:12.380 Um, you know, I used to think it was like an excuse. Like, dude, oh, you're depressed.

00:27:18.480 You're making a fucking excuse. Um, it wasn't until like 2012.

00:27:24.520 That I had like a legit fucking breakdown to where I couldn't function. Like I couldn't

00:27:29.380 get out of bed. I couldn't fucking do anything. And my head completely like felt like it was

00:27:34.680 going to explode. And I'm talking about like literal, actual physical pain. And, um, I

00:27:39.600 went to the doctor and they ended up finding, um, this is how I knew that what depression,

00:27:45.420 this is how I found out. So I had these, this feeling for like 12 years. And then I went to

00:27:50.500 the doctor and I'm like, dude, my headache will not go away. Cause I'm always like the

00:27:54.600 type of dude who like, I'm not going to the doctor no matter fucking what, unless

00:27:57.080 like I'm like dying, but my headache wouldn't go away. And I had a friend who, um, passed

00:28:04.100 away from a brain tumor, uh, within like two weeks of finding out that he had it. Um, his

00:28:09.920 name was Justin Skaggs. And some of you guys listening, I know, you know him. He was a

00:28:13.540 great fucking dude. Uh, actually one of the best dudes I ever met in my life, but I, I

00:28:19.620 was thinking about him and I'm like, dude, he was like, he was getting headaches and all

00:28:23.880 of a sudden dude, like two weeks later, he's fucking dead. You know what I mean? And I'm

00:28:27.140 like, dude, this, maybe this is something serious and he'll get checked out. So I went

00:28:30.740 and got it checked out. They did MRIs, did CAT scans. They found a cyst in my brain, um, which

00:28:37.160 is called a pineal gland cyst and it's apparently you're born with it. But for like a week, they

00:28:42.540 didn't know what it was. So like, I was like, they thought they didn't know if it

00:28:46.160 was like a cyst or a tumor. So like for a week I was like, fuck dude, maybe I got

00:28:49.740 like a tumor. Right. Right. Well, turns out this thing is normal. Everybody like 20% of

00:28:56.480 the population has it from birth. It's not a big deal. Blah, blah, blah. And so I'm

00:29:00.980 still having these symptoms. So they found nothing essentially. Right. But they, they, I'm

00:29:06.940 having these terrible headaches. I can't function, blah, blah, blah. And, um,

00:29:11.920 they, uh, they diagnosed me with fucking like severe depression and that's what like stress

00:29:18.780 induced depression. So like, basically like my stress levels were so crazy that like my

00:29:23.820 hormones weren't working properly and all this shit. So it's a real fucking thing. It turns

00:29:28.160 out. And, um, so a lot of people actually feel ashamed of that. Did you struggle with

00:29:32.900 that at all? I don't, I don't know. I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying they should, I'm just

00:29:36.640 saying that. I think people hide and I think people hide, I think people hide behind any

00:29:44.560 excuse that they can get sometimes. And I think like depression is so common that a lot

00:29:48.920 of people just fucking say, Oh, I got depression. Fuck it. I'm going to lay around all day. I'm

00:29:53.240 not going to fucking do anything to be. No, that's you quitting. You know what I mean?

00:29:57.620 That's you. That is you being a bitch. You know what I mean? Okay. You've got it. Now

00:30:01.480 what, you know, just like people who fucking fight, you know, cancer, you know what I mean?

00:30:06.200 You get a diagnosis and you get a choice. Can you eat? Do you either wake up every day

00:30:10.440 and fucking fight it? Or do you wake up every day feeling sorry for yourself and fucking do

00:30:14.920 nothing and just go die? You know what I mean? And the people who fight it a lot of time,

00:30:19.140 I read a stat that more people are surviving cancer than dying from it. Those are the people

00:30:23.160 that fucking fight. You know what I mean? And depression is not cancer, but dude, it kills

00:30:28.020 people. You know what I mean? And I feel like, you know, a lot of people hide behind the diagnosis

00:30:34.700 or the excuse of I've got this or that, and I can't be productive or I can't do it because

00:30:39.640 I've got this. And, uh, the reality is, is that, you know, um, it's bullshit. You know,

00:30:48.200 uh, I lead a very stressful life. Um, I have a lot of good things, but I have, you ask how

00:30:53.460 often I struggle with it. It's every fucking day, every day, you know, and I've got to make

00:30:57.700 a choice to get out of bed. Dude, getting out of bed is the hardest thing for me. Like

00:31:01.280 I, I, I, I lay there and think, and I'm like, think about all I think about my natural tendencies

00:31:07.360 to think all the bad shit. And I have to physically stop and think about my, that's why I like what

00:31:12.620 I talked about having the gratitude moments in the beginning of the day. Um, that's part

00:31:17.280 of the reason that helps with that depression and it helps, uh, you know, get you on the right

00:31:22.720 track throughout the day. And then, so like what I do is like, I get up, I think about,

00:31:26.960 you know, the good shit I have that gets me out of bed. Um, I go immediately into physical

00:31:32.420 activity of some sort, either cardio or weight training. And even though I've got a lot of

00:31:36.220 weight to lose, I didn't, I didn't, it wasn't the training that was a problem. I've always

00:31:39.400 trained. It was, um, and I have all these dudes like, Hey dude, I see you're trying to

00:31:43.360 lose weight. Do you need a trainer? No motherfucker. I've been doing this for 20 years, but thank

00:31:46.680 you. But it's not the training. It's, uh, it's the, it's the eating that's been a part

00:31:52.380 for me. But the thing is, is that's all part of the depression thing, right? That's

00:31:55.420 all how I dealt with those things. Right. So like, um, you know, I go do physical activity,

00:32:02.040 physical activity releases natural endorsements to help battle that depression. And then after

00:32:06.640 I go do my physical activity, like my exercise and I'm sweating and I sweat for like an hour,

00:32:10.800 dude, I'm good to go the rest of the day and I don't really have to deal with it. Um, I

00:32:15.080 mean, do I get my fucking temper tantrums and go fucking crazy? Yeah, dude, you know, I do,

00:32:19.740 but usually it's warranted because people are just fucking stupid and I've got to be

00:32:24.260 dad. You know what I mean? I have to be dad to a hundred employees. Like I get all

00:32:28.260 these, these, uh, I get these, these entrepreneurs always ask like, dude, does it get any easier

00:32:34.160 to manage employees? No, it fucking doesn't. It's, it's a pain in the ass all the time.

00:32:38.720 Do I have great employees? I do have great employees, but it's still not any easier.

00:32:41.980 There's always something every single day. There's something to deal with. You know what I

00:32:45.600 mean? And that's just part of being an entrepreneur. That's something that I signed up

00:32:48.720 for. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it certainly seems like your daily battle with

00:32:52.260 overcoming your own like struggle and depression is what really has given you the ability to

00:32:57.340 motivate other people. No question. Yeah. No question. It's a dude. It's all perspective.

00:33:01.940 I just had this conversation with a friend last night, an old friend who I haven't talked

00:33:05.400 to in like two and a half years cause we had a big falling out. But, uh, he, he was basically

00:33:10.640 saying, you know, dude, you know, does it get any easier to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm

00:33:14.820 like, look, man, here's what I figured out. It's just part of the deal.

00:33:18.720 You know what I mean? It's not like a special circumstance. It's just fucking part of the

00:33:21.960 deal. And, um, you know, a real depression is a fucking fit. It's a chemical problem.

00:33:28.160 You know what I mean? And it needs to be dealt with a lot of people. Cause I've talked about

00:33:31.640 this a little bit, um, not in depth, but a little bit on, on, and I'm talking about real

00:33:36.760 depression, dude, you know, ever since I got stabbed, that's where it started. Yeah.

00:33:40.260 You know what I mean? And, um, not just being down or blue, there's a difference between

00:33:44.600 just being down or blue and actual depression. Dude, people who are depressed, you know,

00:33:47.980 look, dude, when they say on the commercial, like thoughts of suicide, it's not like an

00:33:52.700 occasional thought, right? It's not like, it's not like a, um, Oh, I thought about this one

00:33:58.860 time ever. It's like a fucking overwhelming, oppressive thought that fucking consumes you.

00:34:04.200 You know, if you're depressed, I mean, I'm just being honest. Yeah. You know, I've dealt with

00:34:08.720 it for fucking 15 years and you take what I just said and put the math to it. And you think

00:34:12.520 about that kind of a fight, you know what I mean? And I don't think people should get

00:34:15.400 medals for that kind of shit, but the reality is, is, you know, it's not easy. It's not

00:34:19.000 easy for anybody and getting up every day, you know, and that's where I talk about, you

00:34:24.460 know, when we talked about kill it every day podcast, we talk about the power list and

00:34:27.520 how to create momentum and how to create progress and how to do all those things. Dude, the reason

00:34:32.480 we're sitting in this building, um, and, and see, you know, you, we can look out on the

00:34:36.440 warehouse and see all these people working and all this shit going on and our brands

00:34:39.720 exploding. Dude, that's all a result of me trying to cure my own fucking issues. If

00:34:45.240 that makes sense. You know what I mean? Like get, I had to make sure I was progressing.

00:34:49.380 I had to make sure I was moving forward. I had to make sure that I was being grateful

00:34:54.800 and all these things kind of like, cause otherwise I would have fucking killed myself. And that's,

00:34:59.000 that's the truth. So it was either like, get your shit together and make it fucking work

00:35:03.540 or, you know, and occupy your brain with that. Or like, you know, and like right now it goes

00:35:09.680 through phases, dude. I'm right now I'm doing great. You know why? Cause my fucking diet's

00:35:13.440 perfect. My training's perfect. My momentum's there. And I think all those things lead into

00:35:17.800 like a healthy life. Right? Yeah. I love what you said though. You didn't just passively submit

00:35:22.860 to the depression. No, you said, but I think a lot of people do that. Yeah. I think you're

00:35:26.280 right. No, I know. I know I'm right, dude. If I can fucking build a hundred million dollar

00:35:29.980 company, being massively depressed, thinking about myself fucking blowing my brains out

00:35:34.120 every fucking day, dude, you could fucking do it. You know what I'm saying? This is

00:35:39.080 not an, you know, I'm not looking for fucking sympathy. So please don't like say, Oh dude,

00:35:44.560 you know, like, dude, I don't like to talk about it. You know, this is gonna be the only

00:35:48.080 time I probably ever talk about it, but I'm being real. You asked me the question. I'm

00:35:51.440 gonna answer it. How often do I struggle every fucking day? How do I beat that struggle

00:35:55.920 by being organized, by being diligent, by having the discipline to stick

00:35:59.920 through a plan? Plus a couple other little tricks, like being grateful when I

00:36:03.740 wake up, being grateful before I go to bed, you know, surrounding myself with

00:36:08.160 positivity. You know, a lot of people, you know, they're like, dude, you just

00:36:12.200 block people who are ignorant on the internet. Well, yeah, I fucking do. Cause

00:36:15.140 they're negative. And I cut all negativity out of my life, period. You know what I

00:36:18.200 mean? So, you know, all these things, and I don't know, like if people are

00:36:23.800 following along at this point, cause I'm kind of rambling, but all these things

00:36:27.380 have like contributed, this is the fucking ironic thing. Like everything's

00:36:30.640 perspective. So like how you look at something can totally determine the

00:36:35.860 outcome of what it is. And when you step back and look at like me trying to cure

00:36:42.920 these feelings that I had internally, and then look at the result of what it's

00:36:46.580 produced, that's pretty fucking amazing. Cause the reality is I could have taken

00:36:51.900 those same emotions and curled up in a ball and been a pussy and fucking just went

00:36:55.660 away. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And I think that's the difference.

00:37:00.080 Like you either choose to fucking fight and this is in life or anything like

00:37:04.800 this is, you know, if you're sick, you fight. If you're an entrepreneur, you

00:37:08.460 fucking fight. You know, it doesn't, it doesn't matter. You just go fucking fight.

00:37:12.780 And you know, if you fight long enough, you're going to figure out a plan and good

00:37:17.020 shit is going to happen. You know what I mean? So we're neck deep in a, in a

00:37:20.800 conversation about struggle and fighting. And so I'm going to, I'm going to turn this a

00:37:24.620 little bit to a, you know, somewhat related topic. And that is this, um, you've

00:37:29.400 talked about having haters. You've talked about having critics. Um, a lot of that

00:37:33.900 criticism at this point in your life, you learn to shrug off. I, I, I think of a

00:37:38.180 meme that you, you had, I think it was like two years ago where you said a lot of

00:37:42.080 people are going to criticize you F those people, you know, but I mean, let's be

00:37:46.340 honest, Andy, cause we're going to keep it real. Um, there's gotta be something that

00:37:50.940 genuinely stings you like something that genuinely bothers you that maybe is part

00:37:55.700 of the whole process of, of fighting for a building an empire, building a

00:38:00.940 business. What is something that, that really genuinely still maybe stings you a

00:38:05.320 little bit, still does bother you that, that if you could, you would change about

00:38:09.580 the whole, you know, culture of, I don't know, life, I guess.

00:38:14.560 I'll be honest, man. Like I, you know, I'm such a smart ass naturally. Like,

00:38:20.240 first of all, if you're a troll hater, dude, I'm the last dude you want to

00:38:23.700 comment on my shit. Cause I'm gonna make you look stupid. Um, second of all, I,

00:38:28.480 I really don't have anything, you know, I'm, I'm self-aware dude, a hundred

00:38:32.100 percent. You know what I mean? I, I know who I am. I know what I want. I know what

00:38:37.240 I'm about. I know my weaknesses. I know my strengths, nothing really anyone could

00:38:42.820 say gets under my skin like that. I actually look at the troll thing. Like

00:38:47.700 people talking shit is like entertainment. I think it's fucking funny. You know

00:38:50.860 what I mean? And I have a good time coming up with a fucking something smart

00:38:55.100 ass to say back. Like, it's fun. Like we sit here in the office and laugh our

00:38:59.060 asses off at people who write shit, you know? Um, but it's not that it's not that

00:39:03.760 and then there's a difference between, first of all, if you're listening and

00:39:06.640 you're young, which I know a lot of you guys are, there is a clear difference

00:39:10.160 between criticism and just trolling or hate real criticism. And we've talked

00:39:15.960 and we have, I think we have a whole episode on this somewhere. Real

00:39:19.020 criticism is helpful. You know, somebody might not like what you're doing and you

00:39:23.220 might not like to hear that, but if you can look at it and say, you know what?

00:39:26.700 That person's right. That person just helps you. You should go give them a hug.

00:39:30.380 You know what I mean? And then there's the people who speak negatively of you who

00:39:33.840 are just there to fucking ruffle your feathers or whatever it is. You know, um, I

00:39:38.040 never understood why people do that. I, I really don't get what the pleasure is of

00:39:42.860 doing that to somebody. Um, but the fact is, is there's a lot of people out there

00:39:46.120 that do it. Uh, and you have to, I think that the fear of that is what keeps most

00:39:53.800 people from ever stepping forward and following what they really want out of

00:39:57.620 life. Um, which is unfortunate because the reality of haters is you fucking need

00:40:03.700 haters. You know why? Because if you don't have any haters, you don't have,

00:40:09.780 there's a unique dynamic amongst like people who love you and people who like

00:40:15.040 truly hate you. And the more haters you get, the more of the people that love you

00:40:19.560 will stand up for you and they become like naturally more passionate about you

00:40:23.360 and your brand. And so it's like a good thing because like they get on there,

00:40:27.240 they talk shit. You let the people who love you fucking handle it and they become

00:40:31.220 like more to like, dude, fuck that guy. You know what I mean? Your own people.

00:40:34.480 So like, um, there's a cool dynamic to having them, but you know, it takes a long

00:40:40.520 time to understand that. Like, and we talk about, uh, on Gary's episode last week,

00:40:45.760 we talked about everybody is their own brand. Why don't people put out good

00:40:49.020 content? I think the biggest reason people don't put out good content isn't

00:40:52.580 because they're because they can't, or they're not intelligent enough to do so.

00:40:56.080 It's because they're afraid of what that one person might say that'll hurt their

00:41:00.520 feelings. And the truth of the matter is guys, is that you have to get over

00:41:07.000 that. You have to, you can not sit here and worry about what ifs, because the

00:41:12.260 reality is 99.9% of the people are fucking nice people. And you're, you're

00:41:19.680 deviating the plan for yourself off of like one 10th of 1% of the population.

00:41:25.760 You know what I mean? It just doesn't make sense. Absolutely. You know? And, and I,

00:41:29.580 I, you know, I get that that's, I get that that's a struggle for some people

00:41:36.780 because they're, they're, they're not good at hearing, but if the fucking shit

00:41:40.240 that people are saying is bullshit anyway, you know, what difference does it

00:41:43.860 make? And are you going to truly like not step out and build the life you want

00:41:47.660 because you're afraid of what your fucking cousin might say? Or like your, your

00:41:51.700 aunt or some dude you don't know, you know, the shit that bothers me, dude, is the

00:41:56.160 shit that like my own family has said to me, you know what I mean? Where I

00:41:59.120 have like, you know, I've had people in my own family say some fucking ignorant

00:42:03.300 shit. I'm not going to say it because they're going to, I don't feel like

00:42:05.540 starting this, you know, I'll go to Easter and it'll be a fucking Easter egg

00:42:08.800 fight, you know? But, but the reality is I've had them say some ignorant shit,

00:42:12.320 but yeah, you know, and that was all, those things are the things that have

00:42:16.500 stuck with me. Yeah. Not the things that Joe blow, you know, from the fucking

00:42:21.360 internet basement of, you know, in his mom's house, you know, fucking, what is

00:42:26.360 it? Meatloaf eating fucking miles, meatloaf, you know, says, I don't fucking

00:42:30.300 care about those guys. So I'm going to restate this because I think this is gold

00:42:34.560 and I don't want anybody to miss it. So Andy said that his response to the haters

00:42:38.420 and everything is self-awareness. And the way that I understand what you were

00:42:42.240 trying to say is, you know what you're good at and you know what you're not

00:42:45.280 necessarily good at. And when people criticize what you know you're good at,

00:42:49.520 you're like, no, I'm not. No, I am good at that. I'm confident about, about that.

00:42:53.740 And then when they criticize things that you know in your heart, yeah, it's maybe

00:42:57.740 something that I need to improve on. You're like, that's fine. I'm not going to

00:43:01.020 beat myself up for it. Right. So just knowing yourself. That's like when people say to

00:43:04.680 me, like, you know, dude, you're fat. I'm like, yeah, I fucking know

00:43:08.380 this, that when I put my pants on today. You know what I'm saying? Right, right,

00:43:11.700 right. I can't get mad about it. But that's huge. And I don't think a lot of

00:43:14.180 people know that the answer to haters is self-awareness. Right. Knowing what

00:43:17.680 you're good at, knowing what you're not good at and, and not, you know, being

00:43:21.680 confident in your strengths. And being responsible for your own choices.

00:43:24.800 Being confident in your strengths and not beating yourself up for your

00:43:27.140 weaknesses. Right. I mean, it's pretty genius. If it bothers you that bad, do

00:43:30.000 something about it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And like, I don't know, that's where

00:43:33.620 like, if you have, if you're a new listener and we have a lot of them, go back and

00:43:37.120 listen to kill it every day podcast, because we talk about the power list.

00:43:40.160 Okay. And there's a, there's like five principles that all lined up here.

00:43:46.340 Okay. If you're confident and you become more confident, you know, it's easier to

00:43:50.840 ignore these comments and say, Oh yeah, whatever. Right. That's what you're saying.

00:43:54.060 Yeah. But people are going to say, I already know this, but Andy, I'm not very

00:43:57.760 confident. How do I get confident? Go back to kill it every day and listen to the

00:44:00.780 episode, because that's going to teach you how to build momentum and create

00:44:04.740 confidence by executing on a daily plan. And, and if you, you know, it's all about

00:44:10.260 winning the day you win the day, you know, you win two days in a row, you win

00:44:13.580 three days or you got to win streak. You win a week in a row. You got a week,

00:44:16.640 week long winning streak. You, you win a month in a row. You've got a month long

00:44:20.300 winning streak. Eventually you string enough months in a row. You're just fucking

00:44:23.720 winning. You know what I mean? And that's, that's what it comes down to.

00:44:27.020 And you've earned the right to feel good about yourself. Exactly. And confidence is an

00:44:29.940 earned thing. Like that's one thing, you know, I heard Gary talk about one time.

00:44:35.340 How do you build confidence? He's like, well, surround yourself with confident

00:44:37.940 people. That's not enough. You've got to do shit that you're going to feel good

00:44:42.420 about in order to like build that confidence and that you're going to, you're

00:44:45.680 going to have to like have your mistakes and overcome them. And it just comes with,

00:44:49.440 with experience. And I show you how to do that if you go back and listen to that

00:44:52.340 episode. Yeah. So, so I've got two, maybe three more questions. This one, I'm really

00:44:57.120 excited to hear what you say. A lot of people who listen to this podcast, I

00:45:00.920 mean, we're kind of biased, but we think the people who listen are pretty

00:45:03.920 exceptional people. There are people who really want to succeed in life. So

00:45:07.680 there are people, everybody who doesn't listen to the show is a fucking

00:45:10.000 idiot. Exactly. All the people who listen to the show are geniuses. Yeah. In

00:45:13.740 fact, I'm pretty sure I have it on good authority that when people stand before

00:45:17.320 God and he says, why should I let you into heaven? That's right. He's, he's, I

00:45:20.720 listen to MSCEO podcast. Exactly. Right. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I do. We already talked, me and

00:45:24.740 God, we already talked about this. You're DJ God. You, I know you got this

00:45:28.280 already set up. Exactly. Exactly. He's got VIP membership. So obviously there are

00:45:31.620 people this year who are going to kill it and they're because of their work

00:45:35.140 ethic, because of their drive, they're going to make more money than they ever

00:45:38.520 have in their entire lives. So what I would like you to do is give them some

00:45:42.880 cautions and some warnings. You're going to spend as much as you make. You're, you

00:45:52.200 know, people, people, when you're not making much money, your, your, your tastes

00:45:56.600 and, and I don't care what anybody says. I've never seen an example of this

00:46:01.260 change. Um, when you make more money, you're going to want a nicer car. When

00:46:05.200 you make more money, you're going to want to go to different places. When you

00:46:07.720 make more money, you're gonna spend more money when you go out. Um, if we're

00:46:12.700 talking about like making significantly more money, um, you know, I would make

00:46:18.220 sure a, that you don't let those new, it's okay to indulge. Okay. But I would

00:46:23.360 still keep all your expenses in proportion to what you're making. You

00:46:27.120 know what I mean? I feel like people, you know, make, you know, extra, you

00:46:32.720 know, let's say they make an extra a hundred grand, let's say they really kill

00:46:35.360 it and they make a million bucks and they were making fucking a hundred grand

00:46:38.080 last year. You know, those people tend to go fucking crazy with money. And, you

00:46:43.420 know, I will personally would live a few years in the old lifestyle before you

00:46:49.000 start stepping up your game. You know what I mean? So you can get a nice base

00:46:52.120 built. You get, you get comfortable with, with some cash in the bank, um, or, or

00:46:57.420 lick, you know, liquidity to you so that you can, and a lot of guys will argue

00:47:01.380 this and they'll say, Oh, Andy, you know, you need to invest your money into, you

00:47:05.860 know, I get, did I get hit up by fucking personal finance guys? Like it, like

00:47:09.380 they're fucking, you know, it's, it's like bees on honey. You know what I

00:47:14.240 mean? But I've always been a cash guy. I like having cash. I like having cash on

00:47:19.280 hand and I like having cash relative to the amount of money I spend. You know

00:47:22.660 what I mean? Um, so I would just really think about, you know, don't go fucking

00:47:29.320 crazy. You know, it's, it's, it's not that hard. Um, and I know there's people

00:47:35.140 out there being like, Oh dude, you're missing all these, you know, cause a lot of

00:47:38.540 people will start making money and then they think they're a fucking

00:47:40.440 investor. You know, they think they're like an angel investor. I was laughing

00:47:44.120 about this this morning. Everybody nowadays is a fucking angel investor. You

00:47:47.840 know, you got a little bit of cash on you. You're going to fucking put it with

00:47:50.420 someone else. Dude, don't do that shit. You're not an investor unless you are, you

00:47:54.860 know what I mean? Right. Like it's just, people just get carried away and they

00:47:58.820 think that like, they think it, it's going to make them into something that

00:48:04.980 they're not, you know, realize that you're, and here's another mistake too,

00:48:09.520 that I see people that start making good money make is they, they think that

00:48:14.480 because they did well here and they're doing well here that they have the Midas

00:48:18.720 touch and that anything they do will turn into gold. You know what I mean? It's

00:48:23.220 like a, it's like, Oh, I conquered this supplement industry and now I'm going to go

00:48:28.100 start in the oil industry. I'm going to become fucking oil tycoon. I don't know

00:48:31.980 shit about oil, but somebody who has that mentality, they're like, fuck yeah,

00:48:35.720 let's go do oil. And they get overly aggressive and they forget what they

00:48:38.660 actually are experts at. And you know, they lose. I've dude, I saw somebody lose

00:48:44.360 a hundred million dollars like that and go broke. I mean, somebody close to me.

00:48:48.620 Really? Yeah. So, I mean, dude, it's not, you have to remember who you are and what

00:48:54.960 you're good at and keep things relative. You know what I mean? Um, you're going to

00:48:59.260 have people of people, you know, I'm going to tell you right now, if you drive

00:49:02.040 a fucking Lamborghini, you go out and buy a Rolls Royce, people are going to

00:49:04.720 fucking ask you for money. You know what I mean? You're going to have to learn how

00:49:07.580 to say no. You know, this, this question just popped into my head. It's kind of a

00:49:11.780 random question, but would you suggest to people who are starting to make a lot of

00:49:15.800 money to be careful about posting it on social media? Because for instance, like if

00:49:20.200 I'm like, I would never post anything if it wasn't like flashy shit, if it wasn't

00:49:25.440 my passion. Okay. I don't post my fucking watches or my jewelry or my house. I post

00:49:31.580 cars cause I'm passionate about it. Okay. I would never post anything or flash

00:49:36.480 anything that isn't your fucking passion or isn't used in a legitimate way to show

00:49:43.520 people, you know, what you've built and how you built it. You know, these dudes who

00:49:49.860 are just flashing their watches and flashing stacks of money and flashing this and

00:49:53.700 that like, dude, that is a good way. Like, dude, I had a good friend yesterday

00:49:57.720 that just got his Lamborghini burnt to the ground. Wow. Yeah. Burnt to the

00:50:02.900 ground. You know, you saw it, didn't you? Yeah. Gold rush. Yeah. One of my gold rush

00:50:06.460 buddies got it because somebody was fucking jealous of it. Wow. Yeah. Well, speaking of

00:50:11.460 that, I mean, it's part of your reason too, that the bad kind of people, whether

00:50:15.320 it's gold diggers or opportunists, yeah, they're like sharks to blood. Like dude, if I

00:50:20.440 didn't have this podcast and wasn't, you know, success wasn't my like product that

00:50:26.100 I'm like, I'm selling even though I'm not selling it. But if that wasn't the case, I

00:50:29.660 wouldn't fucking flash, you know, I wouldn't take pictures of, you know, cars and shit

00:50:34.380 like that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe I would though. I don't

00:50:38.020 know because I like cars, you know, it's a passion of mine. Yeah. I probably would, you

00:50:42.600 know, I don't know, man. I probably wouldn't show my roles. I would probably show my

00:50:46.940 sports cars. Yeah. I can't even go to church anymore, man. I get, I get, I get

00:50:51.280 hit up for everything. I'm, they all know I'm a pastor of disaster. It's crazy. I bet

00:50:54.900 man off the hook. I bet, I bet, you know, and Von the Impaler is getting hit up by all

00:50:59.440 the ladies too. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. But the, no man, I, you know, in all

00:51:03.620 seriousness, I, you know, I can't tell people what to post or not post. The reality

00:51:07.440 of posting is, is like, are you providing good content? Are you building a brand that

00:51:12.280 represents you? Right. You know, people who just fucking post to post, like, let's

00:51:17.980 just like throw shit at the wall. I don't know why I have the social media other than

00:51:22.140 like just to brag about my shit. Like, you know what I mean? Right. Like, like, what

00:51:25.860 are you, what are you doing? Yeah. You know, like if there's a mission to it, I get

00:51:30.300 it. Like, you know, if you have, let's say Tony Robbins, who I fucking greatly admire

00:51:37.460 and I would love to meet one day. In fact, I would love to have him on the podcast. Last

00:51:41.260 time I said this about our guest, we, he, it came true, which, cause it was Gary. Um,

00:51:47.080 I would love to talk to Tony one day, but like, dude, if you read any of his books, he

00:51:50.040 always talks about the, you know, success and ride around a limo and it's 10,000

00:51:53.540 square foot house and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he uses those things to show

00:51:56.820 people what the result of the work can be. And I don't think there's anything wrong

00:51:59.980 with that. Right. You know, I think it's a lot different when you just take a picture

00:52:02.660 and say, Hey, look at me motherfuckers. Right. You know what I mean? Like I got a, right. I'm

00:52:06.500 doing this and you can't. Right. Exactly. Like I got hit up the same dude who wrote

00:52:10.100 the shit about the khakis that we talked about earlier or about the shorts. Yeah. He's like,

00:52:14.540 dude, you used to be, this is the funny thing. He's like, I had to unfollow you because you

00:52:19.740 became too much of a fucking self-centered flashing your shit kind of guy. And I'm like,

00:52:25.040 but you're commenting on my posts. So how the fuck did you unfollow me? And why are you

00:52:28.320 here now? You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck you if you don't want to follow me. But the

00:52:32.160 point is, is like people are going to interpret things the way they want to interpret them.

00:52:36.540 You know what I mean? Right. Um, and whatever you, you know, this is getting into like a

00:52:42.640 different podcast, but like you have to realize that you are your own brand. We talked about

00:52:46.560 that last podcast and your posts should be, should have that in mind. You know what I mean?

00:52:52.840 Your posts should have your brand in mind because in five years from now, if you don't have a solid

00:53:00.220 brand built, like you're going to have trouble getting a fucking job. Yeah. You know what I

00:53:06.200 mean? Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Like it's just such a weird thing. You know,

00:53:14.420 people, people are going to get fucking fired up about stuff or stupid shit. You know, like

00:53:18.660 that dude who commented that dude, maybe he can't pay his rent. Right. You know what I'm saying? He

00:53:23.040 sees like me driving a expensive car like that. And he's like, well, that's so wasteful. You know,

00:53:27.760 you know what, dude, I had my days when I didn't pay my rent fucking either. Yeah. You know what I

00:53:31.580 mean? I'm convinced. Like I said, perspective is everything. Like people forget, they forget

00:53:36.800 about, you know, Chris and I living in the back of our retail store on a fucking mattress

00:53:41.640 that had piss stains on it for real. You know what I'm saying? Or a couch that my dad gave

00:53:46.580 us, which was a love seat. And I mean, you know, you know, when I post pictures of that,

00:53:51.300 that's the most popular shit because it reminds people of where we came from. You know what I

00:53:56.520 mean? Dude, first day in business, seven bucks. Second day in business, zero dollars. You know

00:54:02.100 what I mean? Getting broken and having your whole store vandalized two weeks in can stab

00:54:06.680 in the fucking face. You know, eight years of fucking not getting paid at all. People

00:54:11.640 forget that shit, you know, and all they see is the product of that, that, you know, and

00:54:16.820 people, people just forget, you know, do you think people often forget that money is relative

00:54:22.340 too? In what way? In the way that what might be a Lamborghini to you might be a Ford focus

00:54:29.360 to them. Like how much you make versus. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, dude. Yeah. People, people think

00:54:35.880 that too. They're like, like I've had this comment before. Oh dude, you're spending all

00:54:39.740 your money on fucking. No man. I'm like in my budget still. Right. You know what I mean?

00:54:43.820 Like, um, people, people forget that. You know what I mean? That's a good point. Yeah. And

00:54:49.200 then also, but that's, that's not, I mean, yeah, people, people, people, you know, they

00:54:56.440 do think that, you know what I mean? They think, oh, you're spending all your money, blah, blah,

00:55:01.040 blah. I mean like, dude, I get that all the time. But the thing is, is that, you know,

00:55:05.040 the other thing I get too, is like, I've gotten this a lot. You know, how do you handle employees

00:55:10.560 when you're driving a Rolls Royce that costs more than, you know, fucking 10 times their salary

00:55:17.060 for a year? Like, how does that, how do you, how does that affect you? Or what is that?

00:55:20.900 How does that affect your business? Well, here's the fucking reality. Um, if I don't have an

00:55:27.200 employee that wants to drive a Rolls Royce or wants to be successful, I don't fucking

00:55:31.040 want them here. You know what I mean? If you don't have the attitude of success or wanting

00:55:35.180 to be hungry or wanting to aspire to whatever your goals are financially, I don't want you

00:55:40.540 here because you're not the kind of person that's going to succeed. You know what I mean?

00:55:43.900 Yeah. So I use it as a filtration to like, like when I first started driving nice cars,

00:55:48.740 dude, I fucking fired like 12 people within like two months and we did out all the cancer.

00:55:54.420 You know what I mean? I have all these dudes here that hustle. I had, I was thinking about

00:55:58.980 it this morning. Almost every person in this office has bought a new fucking car this year,

00:56:04.340 a nice car, a nice car. I had a guy buy a CTS V. Tyler bought a Z06 vet, you know, like,

00:56:11.360 dude, uh, you look out there, we look like a fucking Chevy dealership. Every fucking

00:56:15.980 $60,000 Chevy truck that exists lives in our parking lot. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, you

00:56:22.480 know, I'm looking right out here. You got a brand new fucking Ford Mustang, uh, GT 5.0,

00:56:27.040 which are bad-ass, you know, like, it's not like I'm, you know, taking all the money and

00:56:33.400 these dudes aren't fucking succeeding. You know, a number of these dudes have bought new

00:56:35.780 houses, you know, and, and I, you know, and just coming from someone who does work for

00:56:42.460 you. Uh, it's, it's funny because I remember I was trying to look back on, you know, when

00:56:48.060 I actually got motivated to take it to the next level, you know, the next level. And it

00:56:52.120 wasn't, has that happened? You got motivated. Well, I, I stopped being fired. So yeah, Tyler's

00:56:58.540 got fired literally before. Uh, but what I'm trying to say is imagine if you did not have the

00:57:04.740 cars, imagine if we did not have this nice office, everybody beneath you who was in the

00:57:09.920 corporate setting would think that the company is becoming stale and that there's no room for

00:57:14.740 no success. There's no success. Right. And like, dude, I don't want people working for

00:57:18.360 me to aspire. I'm no offense to anybody out there, but I don't want people working for

00:57:21.720 me to aspire to drive a fucking Ford Focus. Right. No offense to whoever drives Ford Focus,

00:57:25.680 beautiful car. Not for me. And it's not the level of what I want here. Unless they happen

00:57:32.240 to think it's a beautiful car and it's right. Yeah. And if they do that and they could become

00:57:36.980 like a lot of people make millions of dollars, that's what they fucking drive. Right. Let's

00:57:41.240 say their motivation is like, I want to give all my money to a dog charity, which I think

00:57:45.640 is fucking cool. Right. But I work my balls off to become that guy who does that. That's

00:57:50.680 different. You know, I'm not saying everybody that works here is driving a nice fucking car.

00:57:53.980 Right. I'm using that as a metaphor for being hungry. Right. No, I get you. So, you know,

00:58:00.300 a lot, dude, a lot of people aren't into that shit and that's fine. But, you know, everybody

00:58:03.640 has their motivations for being successful. And the bottom line is, is that if a, if a

00:58:09.580 nice car turns you off, you and I are not going to be able to fucking get along. Right.

00:58:13.840 Period. Right. It's just not going to happen. Right. For what it's worth, I was at a party

00:58:17.640 one time and I was talking about, I was actually sharing with people my experience working here

00:58:22.240 and I was saying, you know, Andy really isn't a very like ostentatious person. Like he's not

00:58:28.020 buying all those, you know, these crazy things. I said that the two things that he really likes

00:58:32.460 is I said, he likes cars. And I said, he likes, he likes watches. That's right. And, and, and I was

00:58:37.260 pretty excited telling them about a watch that you had. And, uh, and they said, well, how much does

00:58:41.980 that cost? And I told them what you told me. And, uh, I think it was like a hundred thousand. I

00:58:47.100 don't know. It might've been 60. I don't know. But somebody in the group said,

00:58:50.900 does that make you feel a little weird that he spends more on a watch than he pays you

00:58:57.720 in a year? And I, I honestly, I was speechless. And the only thing that I could think of was

00:59:03.980 I said, well, I don't, I don't have that sense of entitlement. And I wish I would have come

00:59:09.220 back with something a little bit stronger, but I, but the more I thought about it. And then

00:59:13.700 I think I later on, I did. No, it's not. No, it's a legit question. I mean, most people can't

00:59:18.880 think big enough to think outside that box. Like, dude, if I was sitting here, they don't

00:59:23.860 see the backside of what we're doing. Like they don't see the plans we have. They don't

00:59:27.520 see the growth that we're trying to accomplish. They don't see the partnership. They don't see

00:59:32.020 any of that. So when they don't see those things and what they assume is they're going

00:59:36.640 to work. They assume because they go to work and sit in their fucking cube and nobody gives

00:59:41.600 a fuck about them and their boss drives up and whatever. It doesn't give a shit about their

00:59:45.300 progression, their family, their life. They assume that's the case here. So they, they

00:59:50.020 think like, Oh Vaughn, you know, all you do is fucking, you're his little bitch and he

00:59:55.020 doesn't give a fuck about you. Well, the reality is, is that we're trying to grow something

00:59:59.380 much, much bigger. Right. We have our plans. You know, the plans. I know the plans. You

01:00:03.760 know, if you're listening, I'm not going to tell you the fucking plans, but you and I

01:00:07.120 know them. Right. And we're partners in something that's going to be much, much bigger. And

01:00:10.700 you know that. No. And they don't see that shit. Well, and that's true. But I also feel

01:00:14.760 like you got to remember most bosses don't give a fuck about their employees. Well, and

01:00:18.140 maybe that's the, that's where they're operating from. But I think what really bothered me is

01:00:22.840 the idea that just because you had the means that you had to pay me. Well, that's America

01:00:29.240 equitable to those means instead of me actually earning it. Dude, does that make, does that

01:00:33.480 make sense? But that's, that's the, that's small thinking mentality. You know, that's squirrel

01:00:37.440 mentality. Yeah. You know, squirrel mentality, fucking go over here where the, the, the nut

01:00:42.420 today is. Yeah. Where's the nut today? Instead of starting a fucking nut farm. Right. You know

01:00:46.480 what I'm saying? Exactly. Like, it's just, it's, it's small thinking and like, dude, you

01:00:50.720 know, people forget I've been doing this for 17 fucking years. Right. What have you done

01:00:55.800 for 17 fucking years other than complain about your fucking job and jump from job to job to

01:01:01.060 job every three fucking years? I've done the same thing for 17 years. You see what I'm

01:01:06.520 saying? Absolutely. So like, you could fucking criticize whatever the fuck you want about

01:01:10.100 me, but here's the reality. You haven't done the work I've done. You haven't stuck with

01:01:16.020 shit. Like I've stuck with shit. And if you do, you'll have the shit I have. Yeah. Period.

01:01:22.520 Yeah. You know? So, you know, and people, people get turned off by success because dude, they're

01:01:28.320 too afraid to step out and go fucking do it because it's going to take a long time or it's

01:01:33.480 going to be too hard. Or, you know, my fucking girlfriend doesn't like it who you're not going

01:01:38.260 to be with in six months anyway, because she's a whore. All right. Let's be fucking real. You

01:01:43.900 know, your, your girlfriend is, I get this all the time. Oh dude, my fucking girlfriend

01:01:48.100 doesn't fucking agree with my plans. Well, first of all, she says I work too hard and blah,

01:01:54.880 blah, blah. All right. Well, let me tell you how this is going to go down. You're going to

01:01:58.400 fucking stay home. And then you're going to be, then the conversation is going to be this.

01:02:01.660 You're a fucking loser. You don't do shit. You know, where's the, where, you know, Joey

01:02:06.400 John down the street makes a billion dollars a fucking day. You're a piece of shit. And

01:02:10.820 guess what she's going to do? She's going to go fuck Billy John, wherever the fuck that

01:02:14.180 dude is. You ain't going to win either way. So cut her the fuck out. You see what I'm

01:02:18.100 saying? And that goes for guys and girls. Like I, dude, I don't want to, you know, I want

01:02:22.400 to start this business, but my girlfriend says it's a bad idea and I have to work too hard.

01:02:26.300 Fuck her then. Get her the fuck out of there. Period.

01:02:29.540 Period. I can't add to that at all. I mean, dude, like, because there's nothing else to

01:02:35.380 say. Like, dude, I see so many young people ruin 10 years or eight years or seven, five,

01:02:40.500 six years of their life over a relationship. It's nonsense. Like, dude, I don't care who

01:02:46.320 you are. I don't give a fuck who you are. You are not going to stop me. It is not going

01:02:50.520 to happen. And if you don't believe that, go ask all my fucking ex-girlfriends.

01:02:53.920 Yeah. And they're probably listening. Yeah. Don't worry. We're still friends.

01:03:01.420 Guys, if you want to check out the show notes for this episode of the MFCEO project, go to

01:03:06.420 themfceo.com forward slash P42. Last question.

01:03:12.580 Dude, on a serious note, it's extremely important for you young people. I know I'm making jokes

01:03:16.900 and I'm being sarcastic. I'm being serious. I am being serious. If you are in a relationship

01:03:23.220 and you have goals for your life and that person does not support you in those goals,

01:03:28.380 nags you about those goals, nags you for having ambition, nags you for having hustle, that is

01:03:33.880 not the right person for you. I don't care how good they suck your fucking dick or fucking

01:03:40.280 how nice their ass is or whatever. I don't care. Get them the fuck out because, dude, they

01:03:46.300 will ruin your life and you will end up eating fucking ramen in some $400 apartment, you know,

01:03:52.340 watching fucking reruns of fucking Walking Dead for the rest of your life. That's not

01:03:58.380 what you want. That's not what you want. Find somebody who's going to, cause dude, it's not

01:04:02.400 only just that, that those people pull you down. Success in entrepreneurship is so fucking

01:04:07.560 hard that you need somebody in your life that's going to pump you up. You need somebody that

01:04:12.120 you can look at and say, God, dude, I don't know if I could fucking do this. And they're

01:04:15.740 going to look at you and they're going to say, yeah, you could do this. You know, my

01:04:18.200 preferable language is, Hey, you're being a fucking bitch. You know what I'm saying?

01:04:23.180 You need that. Like, dude, when I'm fucking up, Emily says to me, Hey, look, dude, you've

01:04:28.700 got a lot of shit going on. You could do this shit. It's no big deal. And immediately I'm

01:04:32.420 like, all right, you know, you have to have that dude. I'm a strong person and I have to

01:04:36.300 have it. Right. You know, and you know, that's the reality, man. People fucking ruin their

01:04:41.540 lives over bullshit relationships. I would also add that if it's the right person and

01:04:45.760 you guys come to the point where you realize that you have very different life goals, that

01:04:50.920 person, it's, it's okay to have different life goals. That person, whether it's a guy

01:04:54.600 or a girl is going to just say to you, Hey, listen, I love you, but we're going different

01:04:59.460 directions. That's right. I wish you well. Exactly. You go well. And that's not the same

01:05:03.960 as somebody who's not supporting you. Dude, my, my girlfriend before I met Emily, that's

01:05:09.680 pretty much how it went at the end. And that was a mature thing. You know what I'm saying?

01:05:14.080 Right. Like, you know, you can't have it both ways. You can't have some dude, you, dude,

01:05:21.360 I'm speaking to fucking women out there because I see this shit all the time, dude. And you

01:05:27.120 know, if I'm a sexist, I'm sorry, but not really. Here's the reality. You can't have

01:05:32.160 a dude that balls out and takes you out in a fucking baller car and buys you nice things

01:05:36.520 and buys you dinner and all this shit that really you should want to earn on your own

01:05:39.780 to be completely fucking honest. But you're not going to have that with a dude who works

01:05:43.460 40 fucking hours a week. It ain't going to happen. It ain't going to happen. It ain't

01:05:47.600 ever going to happen. And here's the other thing about you insta hoes. They fucking think

01:05:51.520 you're something special with your golden vagina. Just since we're on the subject, guys who have

01:05:57.840 money are smart enough to know what it is you fucking are trying to do. And guess what?

01:06:02.700 They're going to use you for what you're there for. And you're going to be the fucking

01:06:05.500 on the street the next second. So ladies, if you're good look at female, quit thinking

01:06:10.660 your vagina is going to pay the fucking bills because that's only going to last for like

01:06:13.360 five fucking years. Get your shit together. Be upstanding, respectful fucking female.

01:06:19.600 Go to work and become an example for other females to be successful because that is your

01:06:24.800 obligation. I see it all the time, dude. Yeah. I mean, how many fucking half naked pictures

01:06:30.700 do we have to see on the fucking internet? I mean, I'm a red blooded dude. I had no

01:06:34.560 problem looking at naked chicks, but it gets it really honestly. I wouldn't. I know

01:06:38.840 like I feel weird saying this, but like, dude, I'm sick of it because I'm sick of what it

01:06:43.240 stands for. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like that's all you have. That's all you have

01:06:47.880 is your fucking looks and your fucking half naked pictures. That's all you have. How about

01:06:53.480 some, you know? Oh, and don't forget your fucking Bible quote that goes with that

01:06:57.820 too. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, uh, you're, uh, you know, your wife just posted

01:07:02.960 an absolutely brilliant Facebook post and, uh, the quote of the, probably the quote of

01:07:07.260 the whole post was, uh, what was it? No, let me look it up. Your Bible quote is not

01:07:13.000 fooling anybody or something like that. Yeah. It was funny. Your, your, uh, your slut picture

01:07:16.360 with a Bible quote isn't, isn't fooling anybody. So, uh, yeah. Yeah. Dude, you know, the thing

01:07:21.820 is, man, it's like, you know, those girls that do that shit give like a lot of girls bad

01:07:26.620 names. Yeah. Like it's, it's like they, they want to be, you know, we're, we're, we're

01:07:31.460 strong, we're respected and do we're intelligent. And you know, then you've got like a group of

01:07:38.620 these, you know, like that's why females have a harder time than the males. We talked about

01:07:43.740 that on, on the last podcast too, because you have so many that just like cheapen themselves

01:07:48.340 that whenever you're like an attractive woman and you're like, got your shit together, you know,

01:07:53.580 as wrong as it is, you know, people come in and make assumptions. You know what I mean?

01:07:59.120 Like, dude, the female females need to fucking like the ones I'm talking about need to like

01:08:04.700 check themselves, man. Yeah. Cause as much as I think you're attractive and beautiful,

01:08:08.840 you're much more beautiful whenever you have something intelligent to say as versus just

01:08:13.580 like showing your tits. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, can I say amen?

01:08:18.900 Yeah, man. I can say, I mean, I know a lot of people are going to like that. Yeah. It's,

01:08:22.180 it's true. Yeah. I feel, I don't know. That's how I see it. No, it's true. Well,

01:08:25.960 listen, we're going to transition from golden vaginas to the pearly gates. Um, Gary V said

01:08:32.900 this, I thought this was one of the best things he said. He said, I tell people this over and

01:08:38.280 over again. He says, I like stuff, but it's not about the stuff. It's ultimately not about

01:08:42.860 the money. He says, my whole end game is how many people are going to show up at my funeral.

01:08:48.140 Do you resonate with that? And, uh, I'm going to really put you on the spot. What would you like

01:08:55.420 people to say at your funeral? It's going to be the same shit they're saying now. It's not gonna

01:09:00.500 be any different. You know, it's, I do resonate with that. Gary like takes that to an extreme.

01:09:06.120 Like, I don't like things, you know, like, like, like, dude, you know, like he always kind of like

01:09:11.940 jabs a little bit. Like, yeah, like, dude, I don't want to be the guy on Instagram standing in front of

01:09:16.160 his private jet, you know, like when I just posted that post like an hour ago myself, you know, and

01:09:20.400 I'm like, man, fuck you, you know, but I get what he's saying. What he's saying is the dudes who only

01:09:25.820 do that and the dudes who only, they use that shit to like, you know, put off their character online

01:09:33.060 when, you know, they rent a Lambo or rent a fucking plane or, you know, and it's, it's fake. And that's

01:09:38.660 what he's saying is like, dude, success is not about that. And the reality for like, I called him a,

01:09:45.040 you know, I think a grade a type one entrepreneur, which he is. And that's how I am too. And I,

01:09:51.260 the reason I can say that is cause I'm, I understand what he's saying and a real entrepreneur and me

01:09:56.580 included, like as much as I have cool shit, I don't give a fuck about that shit. And I would

01:10:00.880 sell it in one second. If it meant that I could start something else or do something else that

01:10:05.840 would help, you know, all these people in a new business say, or this or that or whatever.

01:10:10.480 Like you could take that shit away from me. It doesn't fucking matter. I don't,

01:10:13.000 it's just a temporary thing. You know, what gets me going is the, the processes of,

01:10:19.680 you know, and this is what he was saying too, you know, it's the process of an idea to a concept,

01:10:24.600 to a plan, to execution, to result, you know, and that process of doing that over and over and over

01:10:32.520 and over and over again, being an entrepreneur, that kind of an entrepreneur, the kind of him,

01:10:38.260 he is and I am, that's where you're happy. And when you're standing still and you're not having

01:10:44.120 these things in place, that's where you end up like just destroying yourself, you know? So it's,

01:10:48.940 it isn't about the things, things are cool. Like if you like cool cars or you like watches or you

01:10:54.540 want to live a house fine, but that's not what entrepreneurship is about. It's about the process

01:11:00.040 of execution and building. And you know, so I get, yes, I get what he says. And here's the, the,

01:11:07.540 the, I don't know, the connection. I want to connect the dots. Okay. Cause we talked about

01:11:12.920 this a little bit on that last podcast, but we, you know, everything was so rushed. We didn't

01:11:17.040 connect the dots fully for people. We talked about, like he's talking about what you want people to

01:11:21.840 say at your funeral. If you focus on that and if you focus on what, and this is what he's talking

01:11:27.540 about when he says this, when you focus on the impact that you're going to make on other people's

01:11:33.460 lives, the positive impact that you can make and that you're capable of making on other people's

01:11:38.660 lives over the course of your life, the monetary aspect is going to take care of itself because to

01:11:44.480 impact those people, you have to build shit. Okay. You have to get out there. You have, even if it's

01:11:50.600 just as simple as you starting a Facebook page or a YouTube channel, and you're putting information

01:11:55.680 out there, if your goal is to impact people in a positive way, dude, people are going to

01:12:01.620 eventually support you and your financial, whatever it is. Like if you start selling fucking,

01:12:06.640 you know, pop a special brand of popsicles or something, people are going to fucking buy

01:12:10.900 them because they love you. You see what I mean? So like the impact of being an impactful person

01:12:18.480 is like forever connected to the amount of income you make, you know, like for me and our business,

01:12:26.980 a lot of, a lot of companies in the supplement industry, like we talk about dark side, let's

01:12:31.500 talk about fucking dark side. A lot of companies in the supplement industry, most of the companies

01:12:35.640 in the supplement industry, their goal is to fucking sell shit. Okay. Sell shit. You'll never hear me here.

01:12:41.920 Like seriously, you'll never hear me ever sit down and say fucking sell shit, blah, blah, blah, blah,

01:12:49.400 blah. You know what I mean? That's not how it's done. Our job as a supplement company and as a

01:12:55.300 fitness related company is to what is to help people get and achieve a certain goal. Whether

01:13:01.520 that goal is lose fat, gain muscle, not have to wear a shirt at the pool. It doesn't fucking matter.

01:13:06.640 Our goal is to help them. What goes into that goal? A lot of things, education, motivation,

01:13:12.940 the right products, all these things go together to create that result. That's why we do shit like

01:13:18.680 having a, um, an American in-house, you know, customer service staff. That's all NASM certified

01:13:25.660 to handle those kinds of questions. We do all this shit for free because our job is to get people

01:13:31.880 results. We focus a thousand million percent on results. And guess what happens? People get

01:13:38.580 results. And then what do they tell their friends? Dude, I worked with first form. I bought one of

01:13:43.620 their products. I, but I talked to the guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He helped me. I lost 40

01:13:48.660 fucking pounds. The next guy's like, he goes on the website. All of a sudden he's an automatic customer.

01:13:53.940 You see what I'm saying? And so you impact people and make people, you know, talk about you by creating

01:14:01.280 value in whatever message here is that you're sending out. Are you following me? And if you

01:14:08.000 don't do that, the money is not going to be there because the days of like just coming up with a

01:14:13.860 scheme and selling a product are coming to an end. You know, it's going to come, the companies that

01:14:20.600 are going to win are going to be the companies that care about whatever it is, the result that

01:14:25.920 people are trying to look for. And in the fitness industry, it's very fucking simple. People want to be

01:14:29.660 fit, but it could be other things. I mean, look at the way Apple runs their company. You know,

01:14:35.340 they're the biggest company on fucking earth. I think. Right. All right. I don't know. I think

01:14:40.320 they are. Yeah. But anyway, for the sake of discussion, they are. All right. What do they

01:14:47.320 do when you go in an Apple store? They figure out your fucking problem and they solve it. What's your

01:14:52.080 problem? Oh, well, my MP3 player is a hunk of shit. Well, here's what we have. We have this. This is

01:14:56.900 here's how to use it. Here's a class on how to use it. Here is an extended advanced class

01:15:01.860 on how to use it. What are they focused on selling you the product? They focus on solving

01:15:05.600 your problem of understanding how to use this technology and, and, and all the things that

01:15:11.540 come with it. You see what I mean? So, you know, I feel like, you know, uh, that as cool as the

01:15:24.080 money is, and it like, as, as much as I think it's like important and, you know, having cool

01:15:30.540 shit is fun and all that stuff, dude, that's not why I do this shit. You know, I come in

01:15:34.800 here every day. I work with my fucking friends, dude, we kick ass, we dominate, we have a good

01:15:39.320 fucking time together. That's fun, dude. That's what life's about. You know what I mean? It's

01:15:42.880 not about the fucking money, but if you need money goals to be motivated and get, you know,

01:15:47.500 focus on that's normal. It doesn't make you some sort of materialistic person. You know,

01:15:51.620 every, that's another excuse people hide by, by the way, you know, Oh, that guy's just

01:15:55.580 materialistic. You don't know the fuck you're talking about. You know what I mean? Why do

01:16:00.060 you need a $300,000 car? You know what? Cause I fucking like it. Is that not a good enough

01:16:04.980 answer? Right. You know what I mean? It's not, you know, I attach all this value. Like people

01:16:10.700 automatically assume that you attach this crazy amount of value to that. No, I just like

01:16:15.640 the fucking car. I think it looks bad-ass. And when I roll up to a restaurant and I feel

01:16:20.460 cool, that's worth something to me. Right. There's nothing wrong with that. Right. You

01:16:25.360 know what I mean? It's, it's okay to want to feel cool. Why do you buy anything that

01:16:29.520 you fucking buy? Why do you buy the shoes you wear? Why do you buy the clothes you wear?

01:16:32.940 Why do you live in the place you live? Why do you fucking do anything? Cause you want

01:16:36.060 to feel cool. I'm just being real, man. You know, that makes total sense. So I like cool

01:16:42.680 cars. Cause I fucking feel like a bad-ass when I drive it, but that doesn't mean that that's

01:16:48.520 what success is to me. You know, success to me is seeing guys. First of all, seeing people

01:16:56.860 that, that, that you, that use our products as a company and utilize and believe in the

01:17:01.380 first form brand and supplement superstore brand get results. The more people that we

01:17:05.520 can impact, the better. And I love that. That's what's important. That's what's important.

01:17:10.460 It's not even just making money. It's, it's not even that at all. It's, it's the impact

01:17:14.920 that you're making, you know? And the other aspect of that is I like to see my employees,

01:17:19.720 which is why, which is where this whole motivation fucking brand of the MF CEO, Andy Frisella came

01:17:26.580 from. I want to see my employees who have usually been brought up in a regular household under

01:17:32.940 regular rules of you're going to be an average dude and just fucking accept it. I like seeing

01:17:38.020 them grow, progress, even if it means them leaving our company and going out and doing other

01:17:43.240 things. I've had a number of guys who have left our company, gone out and fucking become

01:17:49.500 very successful. And, and dude, they come back and they said, dude, if it wasn't for

01:17:53.000 you, I wouldn't have this fucking life. That is what success is about. It's about improving

01:17:58.800 other people's lives. And if you focus on improving other, see, I get that question a lot

01:18:02.540 too. Aren't you afraid your employees are going to grow up and leave? No, that's kind of what

01:18:06.100 I fucking want them to do. You know what I mean? You know, or I at least want them to

01:18:10.680 grow within our organization and improve so we can all stick together and kick ass.

01:18:15.040 But I don't like having people stay in the same role for years at a time, you know, because

01:18:19.920 it's shows me that they're not having that edge that they need to be successful. Right.

01:18:25.080 So to me, you know, those things are successful, not, you know, you know, not the small minded

01:18:32.660 think of like, Oh, you fucking drive a Rolls Royce and that's your success. No, it really has

01:18:37.680 nothing to fucking do with it. I really don't give a shit about that car or any of the

01:18:41.100 cars. I mean, it's a hobby. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not total sense. People

01:18:45.760 assume, people assume a lot when they're not in that position. You know, they don't, they

01:18:49.480 assume, they assume that they, they know what you went through to get there first of

01:18:54.160 all. And then they assume like that there's certain meanings that aren't even true that

01:19:00.320 you attach to those things. Like, dude, you know, and the reality is that's why I don't

01:19:04.280 go fuck what people think because 98% of them don't know what the fuck they're talking

01:19:08.680 about. Right. You know, I hear the shit and I'm just like, yeah, dude. Okay. Yeah. You

01:19:13.020 know what I mean? Yeah. So. Well, guys, we really do believe that 2016 is going to be

01:19:20.180 huge for you. If you do the work, if you're smart, if you care about people, if you help

01:19:24.480 them, you're going to kill it. So really want you to keep in mind the things that we've

01:19:28.620 talked about, everything from, you know, success is your obligation to being able to really

01:19:33.260 fully invest in people and make, make, make it not as much about the money as, as much

01:19:38.420 as impacting people's lives. Andy, why don't you just share a couple seconds on March 8th

01:19:44.920 and then wrap us up? Yeah, guys. Gary V is coming to St. Louis March 8th. He asked me

01:19:52.100 to help him launch his book. We're going to do a speaking engagement together. We're going

01:19:56.480 a Q and a together. Um, and we're going to have, uh, we're going to have some sort of

01:20:02.540 special thing. I, we haven't figured it out yet, but like a special VIP, uh, ticket. So

01:20:09.740 like maybe they come as a guest on the podcast or maybe they, we do dinner or something. We're

01:20:15.060 trying to work it out. But, um, March 8th, St. Louis, uh, I'll have ticket info up real

01:20:20.980 soon within probably by the time this podcast will have it. Um, if we don't, you know, right

01:20:26.680 on my Instagram or Facebook and I'll figure out, I'll let you guys know what's up with

01:20:30.660 that. But, uh, it's going to be a really cool event. I'm excited. I am super grateful that

01:20:34.960 Gary, you know, um, trusted me with that responsibility. I, we're going to come in, we're

01:20:41.340 going to fucking burn the house down and it's going to, and he is super excited about

01:20:44.420 it. Um, he's texting me on a daily basis with like just the fire emojis, like, like he's

01:20:50.800 fucking ready. So, um, come to St. Louis, March 8th, help us launch this book. Uh, I guarantee

01:20:56.960 you, like I said in the last podcast, if you come, you will leave with more value than whatever

01:21:01.860 the ticket costs. And if you don't think so, I'll give you your money back. That's how

01:21:05.460 strong I believe in it. It's going to be a fucking great show. So I hope you guys come

01:21:09.360 up there and remember, like we talk about a lot of things on this podcast, but here's the

01:21:13.380 thing. You're in control. Okay. You're in control. I don't care how bad you feel. I don't

01:21:17.940 care how hard it is. I don't care what your obstacles are. You're in

01:21:20.720 control of what you do and the actions you take and what momentum you create for yourself. So,

01:21:28.620 um, you know, we talked a lot, a lot of the circumstantial things here, you know,

01:21:33.020 what do you think if somebody says this or what? All that shit is really irrelevant when it comes

01:21:37.320 down to the actions you take. And that's what you have to remember in 2016. And I would recommend

01:21:42.440 that you guys refresh yourselves, go back and listen to kill it every day, start utilizing the

01:21:47.280 power list if you're not already and let that help you with all the things that we talked

01:21:51.360 about today. So, um, I expect great things from you guys. I want to say also, and I should

01:22:00.780 have started off the podcast this way, but thank you guys so much for all the support that you're

01:22:06.560 giving us. Um, our, the amount of growth that we've had so far and the amount of momentum that

01:22:13.680 we've created so far with this podcast is like way, way exceeding my expectations. Um, and that's

01:22:20.220 a hard thing to do. So I just want to say, thank you guys. Thanks for turning your friends on.

01:22:23.960 Thanks for, you know, tagging your friends and getting people involved. It's, it's been a really

01:22:27.980 fun, uh, six or seven months so far. And I'm looking really forward to some of the big things that we

01:22:34.580 have planned coming up. So, uh, that's it. Go out, fucking do something. Take it easy guys.

01:22:43.680 Take your day off.

REAL AF with Andy Frisella - January 26, 2016

Tough Questions About Success, Honest Answers About Struggle, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO42

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