What Makes Your Work Worthwhile？, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO316
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Summary
On this episode of the MFCEO Project, we have special guest MC Salmon and DJ DJ God join us to talk about the importance of having a good relationship with God and how important it is to take care of yourself and your family.
Transcript
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I can stack them hundreds to the roof. I ain't stopping till they stack to the moon.
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Without me, my family wouldn't have food. Anybody go against me gotta lose.
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What is up guys? You're listening to the MFCEO Project. I'm Andy, I'm your host, and I am the motherfucking CEO.
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Guys, our goal here at the MFCEO Project is to help you become the MFCEO of your life, your world, and your community.
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A lot of you guys are interested in business. A lot of you guys are interested in making more money.
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A lot of you guys are just interested in being better. That's what this show's about.
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We're going to cover entrepreneurship, we're going to cover business, we're going to cover all sorts of things that are going to have to deal with you improving.
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And just because you don't own a business right now doesn't mean you shouldn't be thinking as if you did.
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As always, I am joined by two other dudes here.
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And they are both here to weigh in and bring some value to the people.
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And whenever you speak of DJ DJ God, that is kind of like speaking of God.
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I can see you sitting next to a box of pumpkin spice protein bars by first form.
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And I think the prayer needs to be that you don't eat all of them at once.
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You know, God is my witness, completely unbiased.
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And every time, like in the last six months, we've had some people stay at our house as guests.
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And I have a box of protein bars and I just hand it to them.
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And they don't necessarily even know my connection to first form.
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I mean, in my opinion, probably the best thing that first form has ever made.
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What do you think is crazier than having three little daughters under the age of six?
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Now, you got to have another one so you guys can have like a basketball team.
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Well, I explained to you why God wants me only to have women.
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Well, because he was concerned about creating another baller.
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You know, to be mentored by me and to share my genetics.
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Because he knows all that old school youth group pimping you used to do.
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And now you're going to have to be the defender of the other youth group pimps.
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So when your girl's going to youth group, you're going to have to be the regulator.
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Somebody's got to keep them safe in youth group.
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I'll be able to clearly identify all the other guys that were able to get to first base.
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So technically, tonight is the gender reveal party.
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So you're just going to spoil it, but not spoil it?
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Well, actually, there's a possibility that it could be twins.
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And we said, here, don't show us what it is, but fill up this box with like, if it's a girl, pink.
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So, well, so, the way they did it, my wife could clearly see what was in the box.
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If you're going to go in, dude, you just got to go all in.
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Like, at this point, I'd just be rooting for more girls.
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The truth is, it's really all I know, you know.
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And three of them are going to be in high school together.
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I have a buddy, my best friend growing up, and he also had three girls, but his girls are
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now older because he got married way before I did.
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And I was asking him, I was saying, hey, my girls are kind of treat me like I'm the king
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I said, I'm not looking forward to that changing.
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And he said, well, I wish I could tell you that it never changes.
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But right now, he said, the hormones I'm dealing with, it's almost too much to bear.
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He said, you'll either go to the bottle, or you'll go to the weights, or you'll go to
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Well, you're already hitting those weights, brother.
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So, yeah, you were alluding to, I don't know, what were you alluding to?
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We were going to talk about, you know, because like, dude, one of the big things that we get
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here with the show is, you know, we constantly talk about business.
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You know, we're constantly talking about building a seven-figure, eight-figure, nine-figure,
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potentially 10-figure company, which a lot of people are doing.
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But we also get a lot of people who email in, and they're like, yo, Andy, or yo, Vaughn.
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But they struggle because they're going to come in, and they're going to say, dude, I'm
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I'm not going to make seven figures or eight figures a year.
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You know, I don't see how some of this stuff is applicable to me.
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And it makes them almost wonder, like, if they're doing something that isn't right.
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Yeah, dude, and that's a tough thing to hear for people, I think.
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I don't know how some of these other dudes do it.
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I love that we're talking about this, because I know how much you value blue-collar workers.
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And I know how much you just value work in general.
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And I think people get hung up in, like, I mean, let's face it, man.
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We live in a society that's just a lot of flesh.
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Everybody's showing, you know, where they live and the cars they drive.
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I'm proud of where I live, and I'm proud of the cars I drive, and I'm proud of all that shit, and I show it.
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And it makes me feel, like, kind of shitty sometimes that people sort of take that as, like, it's making them feel like I can't be that.
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And that really has nothing to do with their worth on this planet.
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And it doesn't matter how many times you say this, Andy, but you always say that success is the pursuit of your own full potential.
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And if that means that what you've decided makes you happy in life, and if your potential means that you are only going to make $45,000 a year as a teacher or whatever, that's fine.
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Nowhere, to the best of my knowledge, nowhere in the last five years have we ever said anybody's worth is determined by their net worth.
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And that's kind of, like, the message that I see being portrayed across the internet, right?
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Make millions of dollars, make this, make that.
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And I understand where they're coming from because, dude, that shit's important, all right?
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Like, I take care of a lot of fucking people, dude.
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I provide a lot of people with careers that wouldn't have them otherwise.
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And it is one barometer to how much effort you're putting in.
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But what I, I guess my issue is, is like, you know, there's a ton of value to these other, like, when these people write in and they basically, you know, it's almost like they're, I don't know, like, venting or, I don't know what you would call it, like.
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Like, they'll say shit to me, like, bro, I'm only a firefighter.
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Motherfucker, you do awesome shit all the time.
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Dude, it really bothers me when people approach me like that, you know?
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So, like, I wish people who listen to this show would start to really understand that there's no judgment here.
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But the goal here is to get you to a point where you're being productive in a way inside your world that produces the best amount of impact.
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And when you do that in your world, the income is going to follow.
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I can't even tell you how many people I've had work for me who other people found, like, you know, like I've had guys that work in my retail store, right?
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They're making, you know, 12, 13 bucks an hour, right?
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They're working and working and working and they're doing this great job.
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And somebody comes along and is like, fuck, dude, I really like you.
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Like, dude, one of my best guys ever that I've ever had was got to a point where he was basically lured away from our company and because of how good of a job he did inside our company.
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You know, when you really dedicate what you can actually give to what you're actually doing, there's so many crazy opportunities that present themselves just because you're being a valuable human.
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And that's something that people just, because it can't be, like, scored, right?
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But I'm going to tell you, man, on the flip side of that, you know how many people I've hired from random places?
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There's two of them sitting right here in front of me.
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I met both of these dudes, Tyler and Vaughn, in situations that were unrelated to my business that I happened to actually just like them as people.
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Like, dude, if you wouldn't have been giving your all with the Nines magazine when you interviewed me for that article, we wouldn't even be doing this.
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But we also talked about Oscar for the first 30 minutes of you and me meeting.
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We talked about Oscar and Otis and Charlie and Rudy.
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And dude, that's, but that's, but what that is, bro, is that's you caring about what you're trying to, because let's be real.
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You're a great dude and you care a lot about people, but you were also trying to create the best product for your employer.
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You know, and you're doing, and a great relationship spawned from that created an amazing career.
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You know, so like, people just don't grasp how that opportunity aspect really works, you know?
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I'm even getting ahead of myself, because dude, some dudes that are plumbers fucking love plumbing.
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Like, dude, I know guys who are actual plumbers who love fucking plumbing, and they talk about
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plumbing, and they've grown plumbing companies, and now they're plumbing fucking tycoons.
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Dude, there are people in the Arate syndicate who make millions of dollars as plumbers.
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I was talking to, I could be getting this wrong.
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I think it's Andy Aranda is one of the plumbers in the group, or he owns a plumbing company.
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Andy, I'm sorry if I'm totally misrepresenting you, but I'm pretty sure he is.
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But we were talking about the fact that there are so many people, again, it goes back to
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not to, again, rip on the millennials or anything, but there are so many people that if it's not
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this, like, super glamorous job, they don't want to do it.
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And yet, you forget that, like, plumbers pretty much are never out of business.
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The stuff that they're doing these days, it's cool.
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And, dude, it's, I feel like, I feel like there's two people that we're talking about here.
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We're talking about, like, the people, we're talking to two audiences, really.
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We're talking to the audiences who are maybe, like, I would say, 30 or older, and they've
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kind of made some decisions about their life, and maybe they're not real happy with those
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decisions, and they think, man, I'm too old to go back and start and do this shit.
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If you don't like where you are, you've got to change it, man.
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You spend too much time in your career and too much time doing whatever it is you do
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And I'm not saying you've got to fucking love it every day, because I'll tell you right
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now, there are plenty of days that I fucking hate what I do.
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It's coming in here, goofing off with the dudes and the girls that work in here, teasing
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Getting everybody, getting everybody, they probably all make fun of me when I walk away.
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And I think people are really, we're getting into a real dangerous point in society where
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people think, like, I'm the most anti-guy when people say, oh, money won't make you happy.
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A lot of people think, oh, it's buying a fucking nice car or a nice house.
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Like, dude, I'm talking about being able to grow a company where you see people who started
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out at minimum wage that are now making six figures, buying homes, having, that shit is
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Can't be a big, can't be a big shot charity guy without money.
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And I'm not saying big shot charity is a bad thing, dude.
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When people know that you gave fucking millions of dollars to charity and they know that's
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And I know that's taboo and people are like, oh, you should never tell.
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Well, no, if, if, if, if somebody who's wealthy never tells where they give their money to
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or if they give money, people assume they don't.
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So then they're like, fuck you, dude, you just drive fucking nice car.
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You know how much you could fucking do with, with that car money, blah, blah, blah.
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Dude, I worked in a, what's called advancement for a couple of years.
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It's like working for a college where you, you fundraise and you work with a bunch of
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And very often those people do not want people to know how much they've given because they
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They are people that, that don't want all the credit.
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But what we consistently used to tell them is you have to, because it inspires other people
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So, and in many cases it's like, well, that dude did it.
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I'm going to one up him, you know, but that's fine.
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Like, dude, I want people to give money to my high school where I went because it's
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I said, well, fucking put us in your magazine and put us in their magazine.
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Because everybody didn't want to have Chris and Andy be the only guys doing it.
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So you're saying that the two different people you're speaking to, you were talking about.
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So, so we're talking about, uh, uh, thank you for that.
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Um, you know, and then we're talking to young people who are, you know, 19 years old or 17
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And they're like, fuck dude, for me to be able to be wealthy, I got to go start a social
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media ad agency and I got to buy all these courses and I got to do this and I got to do
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And they think that anything outside of that is not going to be a career that they're going
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Um, there's money in anything if you're fucking the best at it.
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Like say that again, cause I don't think people understand.
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There is money in every single fucking thing that you can do if you're the best at it.
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And, and so I think it's important to talk about some of the, the, I don't know, like
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core questions that people should be thinking about in terms of what they're doing with
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themselves and how, how to take, let's say, let's say we are dealing with someone who
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is, you know, I work real hard at my job and it's solid pay and I like it and I'm not this,
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you know, like what questions should these people be asking themselves to really.
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Determine whether, determine whether their work really is worthwhile.
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I think that's a good thing to talk about for people.
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Um, so when I was a lot younger, so you remember like, so next,
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next year, I'm sorry, two months from now, November.
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So about four years ago in November, my dad died.
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And, uh, when he was alive, like years before he passed, I, he was coming to visit me in
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And I was, uh, I was, I was just out of graduate school.
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So I wasn't like a college student, but I was still pretty young in my mentality.
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And we went to a McDonald's and there was this guy there behind the, behind the counter.
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I was probably mid to late forties and he looked tired, but like, man, he was hustling
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And, uh, and I don't know what, but something just like hit me and rubbed me wrong.
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And my dad looked at me and he's like, what's your problem?
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And I go, I just, I just feel sorry for that guy.
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He's like mid forties and he's working at McDonald's.
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And I figured my dad, who was probably mid forties at the time, maybe, uh, he's probably
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I figured he was going to say, oh yeah, you're right.
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And on top of that, the reality is he's probably actually paid pretty well because McDonald's
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He's like, this is the problem, Vaughn, is that there's a whole generation of people who
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think that, you know, your worth is based on if you have a glamorous job or not.
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He said the fact that he is literally working hard at McDonald's and being a contributing
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And I was like, don't, you know, you remember the old Bugs Bunny cartoons where they did
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something stupid and they turned into a donkey for a second?
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But I mean, I don't know what you think about that, but see, that's, to me, that's
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That's been like a long time lesson that I learned from my dad is it's not the job.
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You know, and it's a very difficult, touchy situation for me because we run an entrepreneurship
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success brand and success and entrepreneurship is usually scored by money.
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So I want to really talk about these things with people, you know, um, these, these people
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who might not be sure how this is going to pan out and if they should still be doing it.
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You know, um, I think the first thing that people have to understand is what you just
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Some jobs are just going to be more glamorous than others.
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You know, if your job provides value to the world, it's worthwhile no matter what.
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And, you know, people don't think about it like that.
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They don't realize like, Hey, you could be a mechanic.
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And if you work your ass off and you're a great mechanic, you are morally much better than
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Like people don't really understand that concept.
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So I would rather personally, I'd rather work with the motherfucker who makes cheeseburgers
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Then the guy who's worked in my industry for 20 years and hasn't been able to do shit because
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he's bounced from one to the next one, next one.
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So, dude, people ask here all the time, how do we find these people?
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When you go to, like when I go to dinner, I go to, and I got a waiter that is just unbelievably
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I'm like, Hey man, uh, is this like your full-time gig or is this your part-time gig?
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And, and then I'll be like, well, Hey, look, man, you killed it tonight.
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Like killed it because regardless, I want them to know they did a good job.
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And I say, if you're ever interested in moving, you know, and career advancement, we promote
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I do that, dude, I do that every time I go somewhere and I get great service.
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Cause I don't know if, if Emily or you use the, uh, all the Instacart where they actually,
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They, they deliver all these delivers right to your door and they, you know, different
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Well, we had this kid the other day that was like unbelievable in his organization.
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He even had a little, uh, handout printed saying, Hey, I want to always do a really good
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I literally said to him, dude, have you ever heard of first form?
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Cause you need to call first form and tell him that I sent you and, and, and literally
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talk to Logan or whoever they talk to and sign up.
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But that's when you encounter somebody like that, especially in today's day and age, people
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don't realize that people like me are looking for people like that.
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Like I am actively, no matter where I go, I am looking at how you do things.
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And like, you know what, sometimes I'll go into my friend's restaurants or my friend's
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place and I'll say, Hey bro, like I did this to the gym.
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Uh, I don't know, like six months ago that was like just working her ass off to keep the
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I went and this whole Pat, my buddy who runs a gym to say, Hey Pat, that chick works hard,
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And he's like, yeah, man, we're going to give her a rate.
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Like he was already aware, but like people, people that are aware of the shit, they go
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out of their way to bring value to those people.
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And I'm talking me bring value to them by a tell them they got a good, they did a good
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job and be considering them for another opportunity.
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It doesn't always work, but you know, you never know who's watching or who's paying attention
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So you have to understand it's not the job that you do.
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And that's something that I hope everybody sticks.
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Let's stick with them because we talk about this and everybody likes to say, Oh, how you
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We've all heard it 10 million times, but executing it in real life is a completely different
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All these motherfuckers, like last night I made a post and I get 30, 40 people out of the
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comments say, how you do one thing is how you do everything.
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We all heard that shit, but why aren't you fucking living it?
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Why'd you walk past that piece of trash on the floor?
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Well, make it your piece of fucking trash because that's how you're going to make value in yourself.
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It's a fucking almost six figure investment to be an Arte syndicate.
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I've had people apply to Arte because I took a fucking snap of me picking up trash in my
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And to your point, which you said earlier, that 19 year old kid who's doing the Instacart
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for Aldi and the way that he put an effort into the into that, that makes his work far
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more worthwhile than some C-suite executive who inherited his job, who pisses away that
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opportunity because his daddy or whoever got him the job.
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Like that kid is putting everything he has into every day and every customer and every
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opportunity and he might be making fucking 10 bucks an hour.
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But I guarantee you when that kid goes to bed at night, he looks himself in the mirror
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and he might have a twinge of frustration, but he knows he couldn't have done anything
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He goes to bed and he's like, fuck, I, you know, I'm getting paid, but I still can't figure
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Why do I, why do I not feel that excitement about my career?
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And you know it, no matter how much you say, dude, you know, when you've given what you're
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supposed to give and you know, when you haven't.
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And if you don't give what you're, dude, I don't have any motherfuckers coming and telling
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I don't have someone that says, Hey Andy, you need to get your shit together today.
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I got to report to the fucking millions of customers that we have.
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But like, dude, these, when I go to bed at night, the reason I feel like a bad motherfucker
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is because I know I did everything I fucking could.
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You know, and dude, there's scenarios all the time that people don't realize that come
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up that are just, they're shitty and you have to deal with them.
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You're not going to always win those battles, but if you did everything that you can do the
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right way from your heart, you can go to bed at night and feel peace.
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You know, that's something people talk about a lot too, right?
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By giving everything you have, which also produces success.
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You know, there's so much bullshit on the internet right now, bro, that like, oh, happiness
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Inner peace is the new, like, like these things are not related.
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You're just listening to fucking dumbasses that don't know shit, who repost shit that
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Happiness, fulfillment, peace, and success are actually perfectly aligned.
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They're perfectly aligned and they all have to do with you, one, caring, and two, exercising
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your potential out of your body on a day by day by day basis.
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And what it is, is that so many people are justifying what they've got in life as what
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So they went out when they were a kid, they wanted to be a fucking astronaut.
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And now, instead of saying, oh, man, I really wish I would have done an astronaut because
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It chose you by default because you didn't practice what the fuck you're supposed to practice.
00:29:36.580
So no matter how much you smile on the outside, you're still frowning on your heart.
00:29:42.440
And that's a big deal that is going on right now in the fucking world.
00:29:47.720
It's harder to admit that you screwed up and made the wrong choice.
00:29:50.800
Instead, you just say, well, I don't really want to do that.
00:29:56.060
All those people that care about money or success, they suck.
00:30:13.740
Success is doing the best that you fucking can.
00:30:16.980
And all of you listening right now can do better at what you do.
00:30:21.820
And the reason that you don't have fulfillment on a day-by-day basis and the reason it goes up and down and up and down and up and down and up and down is because you're not practicing putting out all your potential into the world on a daily basis.
00:30:36.120
Like we would talk about with, you know, being organized in your efforts.
00:30:42.720
Side note, though, related to excellence and success.
00:30:46.320
And you were talking about, you know, picking up trash, the video of you picking up trash.
00:30:51.420
One of the coolest experiences of my life in the last couple of years is when we were at one of the RSA syndicate summits.
00:30:57.620
And, you know, you have the most recent one had about 130 people.
00:31:02.200
And, you know, 130 people sitting through a couple of seminars, drinking Coke, drinking coffee.
00:31:09.300
There's going to be, you know, stuff laying around, right?
00:31:13.100
When we were done, we were all tasked with cleaning that up.
00:31:16.400
And I'm like, there's nothing really to clean up.
00:31:18.160
We had fucking 260 people at my house that night of graduation last year.
00:31:28.180
First of all, imagine that many people in your fucking house.
00:31:54.180
Dude, there was not one fucking piece of trash in my house, dude.
00:32:01.960
These people, it's just reflective of what successful people are like.
00:32:11.380
They take care, and they get a bad rep in the world because it's easy to point at someone
00:32:19.880
Motherfucker, those are the people that make the world go fucking round.
00:32:23.480
Dude, I was so fucking impressed by the fact that we had zero cleanup at my house.
00:32:30.080
It was like, dude, and we got a great crew here at First Form, like a great crew.
00:32:43.800
But anyway, I don't know what the fuck we were talking about.
00:32:48.380
I mean, just to your point that it's not the job you do that makes the work worthwhile.
00:32:56.100
It's how you do the job that makes it worthwhile.
00:33:03.060
I think along with that, too, though, bro, like a very similar statement that we can
00:33:07.360
make is, it's not how much you make, but it's how much you could make.
00:33:14.000
You know, your salary doesn't determine your significance, but your profit, it should
00:33:21.300
If you're sitting there with a whirl of potential to make all this profit on something that you're
00:33:26.460
doing, and you could do all these good things with this profit, and you're not doing it,
00:33:35.540
You're going to feel like you should be doing more, because you should be, right?
00:33:46.140
You have people that look up to you that you don't even realize look up to you, okay?
00:33:50.820
I'm not saying if you're an incredibly talented person with the capacity to make loads of money,
00:33:55.820
you should switch from, you know, your low-paying job that you love to go selling commercial
00:34:01.340
real estate, but, you know, and I am saying, like, if you really, truly love your job, stick
00:34:14.360
No one says that because you're this kind of janitor, you can't reinvent the fucking game
00:34:20.880
And you know what could happen if you reinvented the game of being a janitor and figured out a
00:34:24.780
way to make your company more profitable by the way you fucking clean shit and operate
00:34:32.900
Now you could take how you do it and you could sell it to all the other companies.
00:34:37.180
You think you're not going to still love doing that shit?
00:34:41.280
Like, there's all kinds of different ways here, guys, that are just getting, like, completely
00:34:46.100
blown off the table by all these fast-talking, course-selling fucktards.
00:34:54.140
But dude, to that point, I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine, and he's
00:34:59.440
in a particular profession that's known for not getting paid very well.
00:35:03.480
And he was complaining to me that he wasn't getting paid very well.
00:35:05.960
And I was like, dude, listen, you are really good at what you do, okay?
00:35:12.960
Now, more than ever, teachers have the unlimited ability to make money, because you teach your
00:35:21.380
regular classes, and then you develop courses that are awesome, and you sell them online.
00:35:27.000
So I just, I'm over feeling bad for the teachers.
00:35:33.200
You can go around, you can create a keynote, and go around and teach other teachers.
00:35:40.320
The problem is, is they feel like they need permission.
00:35:43.980
So if you're listening right now, and you're one of these people who thinks that God, or
00:35:50.820
the teacher, fucking master, I don't know, the dean, whoever, is going to give you permission,
00:36:02.880
There's no qualifying school for entrepreneurship.
00:36:14.860
Like, I think we're also living in a time where there's so many-
00:36:18.680
Now, I agree with you that serial entrepreneurship is not a good thing, generally speaking.
00:36:25.680
But I do think that for people who make not a really exceptional-
00:36:30.860
Now, you're going to have people who fucking are going to be, like, emailing about that
00:36:44.580
If you want to be a serial entrepreneur when you're 75 years old and worth fucking $100
00:36:51.400
And as you and Ed have pointed out before in Arte, in most of those cases, the vast majority
00:36:57.620
of that person's income still comes from one thing.
00:37:00.500
But no, my point is that in today's day and age with all the resources and the platforms,
00:37:05.060
if you have a job where it's a fairly lower income, there's all sorts of things you can
00:37:12.020
There's all sorts of other ways of generating revenue if you're creative and you work hard.
00:37:15.960
But be that as it may, that's not the main point.
00:37:17.920
So you were saying, so point number one was it's not the job you do, it's how you do
00:37:23.380
Point number two, you said it's not how much you make, it's how much you could make.
00:37:29.620
I know you've told this story a lot, but give us a cliff note because it's such a powerful
00:37:36.580
When you were killing it a couple years ago, but you were laying on the couch and watching
00:37:43.460
You've got to tell that story again because we get new listeners every day.
00:37:58.240
And I couldn't come to work for like three weeks.
00:38:01.800
And so I sat on the couch in my house and I was watching Pacific Rim.
00:38:07.500
And I liked that movie so much that I watched it about 47 fucking times.
00:38:18.540
But, dude, I checked my, you know, I'm getting paid because I was at home for a long enough
00:38:25.140
time where I could see my pay coming through, right?
00:38:28.620
I'm making, dude, I was making the most money I was ever making.
00:38:32.660
And that was the first time in my life I was making crazy money.
00:38:40.500
But I went, that was like my first taste of making money.
00:38:47.280
And I remember sitting there thinking, like, damn, dude, this is pretty cool.
00:39:00.620
About, you know, a week into it, I'm like, man, I'm kind of bored.
00:39:06.400
By the third week, I'm like, this fucking sucks, dude.
00:39:10.360
And I started to realize that it wasn't about what I was making.
00:39:15.540
It was about how much opportunity I was leaving on the table by not being functional.
00:39:20.360
So it woke me up to realize that success isn't like the money or the fucking job or the car or the girl or the house or any of that shit.
00:39:30.860
Success is the pursuit and fulfillment of one's own true potential.
00:39:36.440
And that's where I came up with that definition.
00:39:39.660
It clicked with me that it wasn't like the things that I thought were going to make me happy.
00:39:43.540
And what's really cool about that story is that once I fucking twisted that around in my brain and realized it, then I realized that making money was actually pretty easy.
00:39:56.060
It was just executing on what I'm interested in and passionate about.
00:40:03.120
So when I start, you know, like even this podcast, like I say all the time, I do this for free.
00:40:08.960
But the truth is, it's opened up so many different income opportunities for me.
00:40:13.580
I mean, dude, I've got a new business partner and at my let we're doing fucking, you know, we're building a couple different things together on a big scale.
00:40:22.080
You know, I've been able to go speak at some of the most amazing conferences ever put on.
00:40:30.040
But, you know, I've met some awesome people and some awesome friends and some great entrepreneur friends.
00:40:36.100
I've become close with some people that I really used to look up to in terms of like untouchable for me.
00:40:43.520
You know, and that came from doing this for free because I felt good about doing it.
00:40:52.080
And that's, I never, we, dude, people don't believe this, but we never started this shit with an intent to sell anything.
00:41:00.760
But it's, it's, and we don't sell anything on the, on the show.
00:41:14.120
So that's about the most selling I'll do on the show.
00:41:23.420
Which, which the profit margins on that are like razor thin.
00:41:28.500
That's more of a charity thing that you might make a few bucks for, uh, well, I was going
00:41:39.300
But just like when I go out with my friends and like they're all drinking and I want to
00:41:49.520
So you feel like, you could sit there for like two, three hours.
00:41:52.980
You could sit there for like two or three hours without being bored.
00:42:00.740
I just feel like, you know, when you start things for the right reasons and follow through
00:42:06.620
But I, I, you know, just, just to tease out a detail of that story you've told before
00:42:11.180
is I do remember that your thought process was like, you were looking at other guys and
00:42:16.400
going, well, I'm, I'm killing it compared to them.
00:42:19.700
And I think you, I remember you saying that you, you had this aha moment where you're
00:42:27.820
Like you are the measure of your own true success.
00:42:30.860
You can't, cause I think you were talking about it.
00:42:32.900
Dude, that's why I tell people, bro, when they say, Hey man, congrats on all the success.
00:42:36.640
I always tell them, you guys know what I say, Tyler, what do I tell them?
00:42:51.880
I'll be successful when I tapped into my real potential, which I haven't even fucking started
00:43:00.900
But do you know, you know, you're a great speaker and I think you'll understand this, but I don't
00:43:09.720
speak as much as I used to, but you know, when I was a pastor, I would come down from the
00:43:19.960
And that's not, I know that's not how people would respond.
00:43:23.900
And they, they could never wrap their head around why I was so depressed.
00:43:27.300
And I would literally, they would say like, how'd it go?
00:43:29.500
And I'd say, I literally feel like I threw feces from the pulpit cause I, I felt like that
00:43:34.640
And they couldn't wrap their head around it cause they'd been like, no, it was awesome.
00:43:38.340
No, it sucked because I knew what I was capable of and I fell so short.
00:43:43.040
I feel like that every time I speak, it doesn't matter how good I do.
00:43:49.180
It doesn't matter if I burnt the motherfucker down when I come down and I'm like, fuck,
00:43:57.120
And you start like, that's, that's champion mentality, bro.
00:44:02.580
Like, that's what people do that are high achievers.
00:44:06.300
Like I said a minute ago, I don't have fucking a boss to tell me I sucked.
00:44:15.500
But, um, you know, I think something too to mention in all this stuff is the platform
00:44:27.180
Like, I think a lot of people think that they can't impact people.
00:44:30.180
I know this is true because I talked to a lot of people at first form who do a really
00:44:33.980
good job, but they don't feel like they're really killing it because they don't have a,
00:44:44.700
You know, and I think it's important to mention this too, that, that if you're talking about
00:44:48.420
impact, man, um, you have to understand that it's not the number of people that you impact
00:44:54.840
It's the percentage of people that you impact in your world.
00:45:00.680
And that's something that's people just completely miss.
00:45:04.560
You know, they're trying to talk like, well, fuck dude, Tony Robbins.
00:45:08.780
Look, he sold out the Staples center or Gary Vee.
00:45:16.920
You can make a better impact because when you have a huge fucking audience, you don't have
00:45:22.240
the time to do that one-on-one shit that really impacts people.
00:45:26.080
So now you're actually at an advantage to someone who, you know, has a big audience and the fact
00:45:32.420
that you could spend real time with real people and make a real difference.
00:45:36.060
My favorite thing that I miss doing that I love to do was working the counter at a retail
00:45:43.700
It's, I say it all the time and I say it to this day in all of our companies, the number
00:45:49.140
one best job that we have here, it doesn't make the most money.
00:45:56.380
The number one job we have in this, in our companies, all of them is working the counter
00:46:02.020
at a supplement superstore retail store because you get to talk to people.
00:46:10.980
They're not like, it's not like Instagram where they get a like or a heart or a comment
00:46:14.920
or this, that dude, you're connecting with someone and most of you guys right now have
00:46:19.880
that right in front of your face and you take it as if it's not valuable and I'm telling
00:46:24.420
you one day you are going to do what you're wanting to do and you're going to build this
00:46:31.140
business and you're going to be in an office and you're going to do what I have to do,
00:46:34.720
which is manage a bunch of other parts that go together to create a ecosystem and you're
00:46:42.080
going to miss that shit because that's the powerful shit, man.
00:46:45.580
That's the stuff that really matters, that really makes you feel good and every single
00:46:49.920
person listening right now has the opportunity to do that.
00:46:55.100
Tell me right now that if you go out and have meaningful conversations about your company,
00:47:00.580
your product or whatever it is that you do with three or four people a day, I want you
00:47:05.760
to think about that versus you doing what you do mindlessly and not talking to anybody.
00:47:11.840
You're going to pick the day that you had those conversations a million to one over the
00:47:16.380
ones that you didn't and dude, that's something I really miss about my business.
00:47:21.140
Yeah, and that's where you learned all your stuff, all your skills and everything.
00:47:26.760
People ask all the time, what's the best thing I could do?
00:47:28.660
Fuck dude, get a retail job with a company that cares about people.
00:47:32.000
Yeah, but you know Andy, it goes back to something we've talked about in previous podcasts is that
00:47:35.700
today in our day and age, we really do confuse being famous with being impactful.
00:47:42.960
Like just because people know your name does not mean that you're going to leave a legacy
00:47:46.520
of any real value that's going to extend beyond your lifetime, you know?
00:47:51.800
And that's why you see all these famous motherfuckers trying to write these bullshit books later
00:47:56.960
Like after the shit's happened and after their buzz is gone and after the attention's
00:48:01.940
gone, then they're writing some bullshit biography about their life.
00:48:09.000
And now you're trying to write a book so you could be relevant.
00:48:11.720
And so you could be impactful because you know that you sold your fucking soul for your 15
00:48:23.960
Your time being in the light is going to fucking end.
00:48:32.440
You're either going to have the time that the time you were in your light is either going
00:48:36.120
to last forever because you made it, you did it the right way.
00:48:39.700
You connected with people, you help people, you help people, you just
00:48:41.700
change people, you inspire people, you were a positive influence of people, or the life
00:48:47.220
shit's going to go out and your memory is going to go out with it.
00:48:53.200
And if all you're living for is fame and fortune instead of really impacting people,
00:49:04.460
A couple people got really pissed at me about that.
00:49:07.380
And they were like, duh, you said, the fact that you said that girl was an actress is
00:49:14.620
She may not be an actress by profession, but she is an actress by-
00:49:23.840
I would just say that, you know, when I was a pastor, one of the big things was, you know,
00:49:29.480
if you were a youth leader or youth pastor, if you could take your kids to a really awesome,
00:49:36.200
you know, missionary trip overseas and some exotic location, you were considered a really
00:49:42.460
And I always used to take my kids fairly local places or the farthest we ever went was Chicago
00:49:49.120
I said, because reality is, if you don't like, if you don't truly love and serve people where
00:49:54.000
you live, you're not going to truly love and serve people across the world.
00:49:58.400
And so these people who just want this worldwide platform to feel good about themselves, listen,
00:50:03.840
if you're not, if you're not truly impacting people in your own neighborhood, then you're
00:50:08.640
not going to sincerely want to impact people all over the world.
00:50:13.520
The guy that lives in the fucking up your street that does all the good shit for the
00:50:17.920
elderly people, mows their lawn, takes care of them, plows your snow.
00:50:24.040
Like that guy, dude, that guy's making a far bigger impact than what probably I would make
00:50:29.520
on a big giant scale that would be watered down.
00:50:33.580
The opportunity to make real impact is actually at its highest when you have the least amount
00:50:39.900
And that's something that people don't like to hear, but if you really want to impact people,
00:50:47.020
Go through and fucking take care of the people in your circle, in your community.
00:50:51.800
And I would say people ought to get excited about it because the reality is if you really
00:50:55.240
do pour yourself into the people locally, that will have a chain reaction.
00:51:00.940
It will, but people are full of shit and that's the problem.
00:51:05.540
I just want a thing so I can impact people and I want to help people.
00:51:09.360
When really what they're saying is I want to be fucking rich.
00:51:14.000
But they don't want to say that because they're afraid to say that because their mom and their
00:51:18.240
dad and the people around them are going to say, well, you know, there's more things
00:51:24.940
But impacting people on a large scale can make you a lot of money.
00:51:30.880
And guess where you start to impact people on a large scale?
00:51:42.640
I mean, dude, people are looking past the opportunity right in front of them because they
00:51:52.100
And because they pass the opportunity right in front of them, they never get the reps
00:51:56.200
to learn how to properly do this shit at scale.
00:51:59.480
So let's say if you did really want to impact people and you want to be, and we see this
00:52:03.260
all the time, how many people on Instagram are trying to pretend like they got all the
00:52:13.980
They haven't done shit, but they're on Instagram making videos about motivation and this and
00:52:19.480
The reason that your shit doesn't connect with people is because you didn't start it
00:52:23.960
at the real level and learn how to truly connect.
00:52:28.760
So when you skip the step to try to get to the fifth step where you think you should be
00:52:33.800
and you think you deserve to be, you're actually discounting your skill set and taking you
00:52:39.300
further away from what your ultimate goal is by ignoring the opportunity right in front
00:52:46.940
Well, dude, you were, uh, you were recruited by, uh, division one football teams.
00:52:51.080
You, you know that when it comes to recruiting, what's like the biggest embarrassment for
00:52:56.780
a major program in that state to not lock up what?
00:53:02.040
And I think it's interesting that even though first form is a nationwide and worldwide brand,
00:53:09.340
Louis because you've built such a great, dude, we have a great community, great community.
00:53:18.980
If I go to a fucking event, I know those people.
00:53:23.100
Like when I see them, like I'm going to see them on, uh, in a couple of weeks at Fall
00:53:32.420
Like if you can't lock down your fucking culture and your core, where you live in your community,
00:53:37.400
you sure as fuck ain't going to be able to lock it down across the country.
00:53:41.320
So people need to stop obsessing about saving the whole world and focus on saving the people
00:53:46.280
And understand that, dude, if you truly have a pure heart about impacting people, like
00:53:59.040
I know people like that and I fucking love people like that.
00:54:08.340
You're, you're, it's easier for you to do without the attention.
00:54:15.780
Like there's people out there that are making profound impacts on other people's lives in
00:54:27.500
I mean, dude, we're talking life, serious life altering situations.
00:54:33.620
And I'm not saying, by the way, most of them don't.
00:54:36.860
I'm saying there are people out there doing it right.
00:54:43.480
And they, and do those people are some of the happiest, most fulfilled people that you
00:54:53.300
They know what their mission is and they feel fucking great about it.
00:54:56.740
They appreciate the recognition, but they don't need it.
00:55:05.280
They're happy because every single day they come to work, they're putting everything they
00:55:13.460
Dude, your happiness and your discipline are completely aligned at all times.
00:55:32.640
And then when it talks, when we're talking about making an impact on the whole world,
00:55:36.300
it's not the overall number of people you impact in the world.
00:55:39.060
It's the people you impact in your own part of the world and focusing on that.
00:55:43.060
Not being famous, not having a worldwide platform, but pouring into the people in front of you.
00:55:51.980
Like, dude, this person right in front of you is not less worthy of your ability to
00:55:58.340
impact them than somebody that you don't know over in Africa.
00:56:04.780
So if you're true about wanting to impact people, which you should be, you should start
00:56:13.600
Because if nothing else, if you're really doing it to impact people, you can do it more
00:56:19.180
If you're doing it because you want to make money, you got to own your own territory in
00:56:28.080
And people are looking 10 steps down the road instead of focusing on all the opportunity
00:56:33.500
Because they're so enamored with the flash and the cash and the fucking, all the lifestyle
00:56:39.500
shit that's going on right now that they feel like, dude, where do I even start?
00:56:51.620
You see someone that could use a positive word in their life, give them a positive word.
00:57:01.460
If you want to build your fucking brand, be known in your community as the motherfucker
00:57:15.600
And that has to stop if you truly want to be fulfilled and truly want to be successful
00:57:23.620
Hey, I should probably know this, but is it too late to promote the RTA Live event, the
00:57:35.660
The tickets to the public, I think, drop early next week.
00:57:40.740
They can hop on and I'll probably post something in my story over the next couple of days
00:57:45.860
about, you know, getting on that list because we don't, we don't, most of the tickets are
00:57:51.620
eaten up by people who are in RTA and then we have a handful that are public available.
00:57:56.400
But if you're in the public and you're not in RTA and you want to come to see RTA Live,
00:58:01.960
which is a fucking amazing event, taught by real entrepreneurs, not, it's not these buzzword
00:58:10.800
And if that's something that you're interested in doing, we'll have some tickets available,
00:58:14.840
but it is something you got to be on top of right away because we sell them out in a
00:58:18.500
And guys, we, we, uh, again, we always have, uh, new listeners.
00:58:21.800
So maybe to some extent you don't know what we're talking about, but even if you miss or
00:58:25.880
are not able to attend the, uh, the live event, you need to look into the RTA Syndicate.
00:58:34.960
Um, we're not accepting people right now, but if you, if you go to there and sign up, it'd be
00:58:44.920
We don't try to, we don't even have anything to sell.
00:58:48.100
You have to be accepted to even be in it, but it would be a good idea to get in touch with
00:58:55.320
If it's something you think that you're interested in down the road, uh, just because it's in,
00:59:02.360
And it's just so it's, it's very hard to even describe what it is.
00:59:05.280
So just go to, go to the website and check it out.
00:59:20.340
Like guys, you know, this is something that we do because we love doing it.
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We do love to kick ass like, cause we're competitive.
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