Your Success Requires Time and Tenacity, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO7
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Summary
In this episode of The MFCEO Project Podcast, we have a special guest, Ben Newman, join us in the studio to talk about what to do in your darkest days, how to embrace struggle, and how to press on.
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Hey guys, this is Vaughn Kohler, the co-host of the MFCEO Project Podcast.
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Andy Frisella is the MFCEO, along with his business partner Chris.
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He started Supplement Superstores and First Form International about 17 years ago.
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They started with nothing, and today the companies make more than $100 million annually in revenue.
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Andy is a motivator and innovator and started this podcast to give you the straight-up truth about business and life.
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So obviously, if you're hearing my voice and you've been listening to the podcast for any amount of time,
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you know that we're doing things a little differently.
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The reason I'm starting us out this way is that when we originally recorded this episode,
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it started with Andy answering a question from Christophe in Italy.
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And if you're listening to Christophe, grazie, man, for the question. It was a great question.
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The question was, what is the biggest mistake that you made as a young entrepreneur?
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And as you'll listen here real soon, Andy answers the question and then really gets on a roll
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and goes right into a pretty wide-ranging discussion on what do you do in your darkest days?
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How do you embrace struggle and how do you press on?
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Joining us today in the studio is our good friend Ben Newman, who is a professional author,
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he's a speaker, and he's a performance coach who works with elite athletes and executives.
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You can check out his website, bennewman.net, and follow him on Instagram, at Continued Fight.
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As always, connect with Andy on Instagram. He's at Andy Frisella.
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Check out the MFCEO.com website, and as always, send your questions to AskAndy at TheMFCEO.com.
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So like I said, the content of this episode was so far-ranging at times that it was tough to figure out how to edit it.
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But as you'll see, it was so good that I didn't want to take anything out.
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Listen, take it to heart, apply it to your life.
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So, without any other delays, here's the MFCEO.
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So, today we have a special guest who's a good friend of mine, Mr. Ben Newman.
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Ben, tell them a little bit about your books and where they can find them.
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And, you know, really for me, Andy, I get so excited to be with all the listeners.
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But if you do want to check them out, leave your legacy, own your success, they are on Amazon.
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But I'm just excited to be with all of you to bring out your best.
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And then, as always, I'm here with my co-host, Vaughn Kohler.
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Yeah, things are really good, especially with Ben here.
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Your energy is so high when you say that, Vaughn.
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I got to be the chill one because you guys are like, you know, sticks of dynamite, you know.
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A lot of people who have been writing in feedback are like, man, Vaughn's really good because you start getting off on a tangent and he gets you refocused.
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And I'm like, yeah, you know, that's necessary sometimes.
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But it's a good dynamic and it's good to be here.
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You guys were talking before the session started that Ben's going to Las Vegas.
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I'm just going to completely just be calm, probably hang out in my hotel room.
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No, definitely do some speaking out there, a couple of events, and let loose and have some fun.
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Yeah, Ben's an attractive man, so I hope you don't get in trouble out there, Ben.
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Like, I'm good for – I learned this lesson last year when Tyler and I went.
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You know, I see some of these dudes going out there for five, six nights.
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I'm like, dude, I feel like I got the shit kicked out of me after three days there.
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But, I mean, I'm just saying, like, I was physically, like, physically sore.
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I don't know if that says something about my conditioning or – I mean, were you sore, dude?
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I literally felt about putting a gun to my head.
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Dude, the office after the – the office the few days after we all got back was pretty much worthless.
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I'm there for 22 hours, and I'm worried that that's how I'm going to feel when I get on the plane Saturday morning.
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Well, this week I'm going somewhere far better than Vegas.
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Yeah, they got a great bar district in Manhattan.
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When I was a pastor, some people jokingly called me the missionary to Aggieville.
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But, yeah, because I stayed up late and talked to the college kids.
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You can have some great conversations at 2 in the morning.
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So – but you mind if we start with a Q&A this morning?
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Actually, we got a great email from a guy in Italy.
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You know how we thought the Pope was listening to us?
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It was this guy because I think at the time we only had one person listening to us in Italy.
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His name's Christoph, and Christoph is 17 years old, and he wants to ask the MFCEO a question.
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He says, what is the biggest entrepreneurial mistake you have ever made, or what's the typical worst entrepreneurial mistake that people make?
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Oh, this is actually – I think this is the mistake that – I mean, I've made, and I'll tell the little story about what I did.
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But it comes down to – when you're young, you know, you want it today.
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You want to be – you think a year when you're 17 years old is a long time, okay?
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And you see a lot of these people on the internet, especially Instagram now, telling these stories of, you know,
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I went from zero to being a millionaire in 12 months, or I see people saying, oh, you know,
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I can promise you if you stick with me or buy my program or do this, I'll make you a millionaire in a year.
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Like, it's the get-rich-quick scenario, you know?
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So, when you're young, that's very appealing, and you believe that it's possible, quite frankly,
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because you don't have enough experience to know any better.
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So, definitely the I'm-going-to-get-rich-quick type mentality is the biggest mistake people can make.
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If there was, you know, you would know about it, and you'd have people just pouring out of the woodwork.
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It wouldn't be one or two testimonials or three testimonials from these certain clients that these people have probably been friends with
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since the time they were nine years old, get them to say how they've, you know, made millions of dollars with the program.
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And a lot of these guys, when they get older, these so-called guru-type people, they get to be 35 years old,
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and they've built a little bit of success, or they stand behind their dad's Ferrari and say,
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oh, man, do what I did, and you can do this in a year, and then they try to sell you something.
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There's not a product or a business or anything out there that can defeat the laws of time, all right?
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Time is something that when you're young, and when you're young physically or you're young in the entrepreneurial process,
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it's something that you want to go ahead and speed up.
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So the analogy I use is like baking a cake, all right?
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If you want to bake a cake and you go to Martha Stewart and say, man, Martha, I want the best cake I could possibly make,
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And the recipe calls for you to bake the cake at 400 degrees for 40 minutes.
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And you go home and you say, dude, fuck that.
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I'm going to go – I'm going to bake this cake, and I'm going to bake it in 15 minutes.
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So you go up and you turn the heat up real high to 700 degrees, and you put the cake in, what's going to happen to the cake?
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The other aspect is I want to hurry up, and I want to supersede the time aspect.
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So what I'm going to do is I'm going to change the recipe a little bit, and then I'm going to go in there,
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and I'm going to put it in there, and this is only going to be a 20-minute recipe.
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And, you know, you pull the cake out of 20 minutes, and the cake's shit.
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I think the biggest lesson that young entrepreneurs need to know, or any entrepreneurs,
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It takes people time to become comfortable with whatever product or service you're selling.
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It takes people time to spread good word of mouth.
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It takes people time to accept your solution, and that solution could be a product.
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But it just takes time, and you have to learn to be patient.
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And if you fall into the, you know, get rich quick, I'm going to make you a millionaire in 12 months bullshit that's out there,
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what's going to happen is you're going to spend the time that you could be spending baking your cake
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and building your brand and learning the lessons you need to learn,
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you're going to get frustrated after 12 months because you're not anywhere near where they said you were going to be,
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and you're going to jump to the next thing that you think is going to be 12 months.
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And then you're going to jump to the next thing that's going to be 12 months,
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and none of these things are going to be working out, and then you're going to jump to the next thing.
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And what happens to most people is they spend their whole entire lives jumping from opportunity to opportunity to opportunity
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because, quite honestly, they just didn't stick it out long enough to see it materialize.
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I think one of the things that I think about here, and you talk through this, Andy,
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You know, I'm a big believer that for all of us, you know,
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our success will be measured in your ability to get back up one more time than you've been knocked down.
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So in your 17 years to get to $100 million from $7, I mean, how many times were you knocked down?
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I mean, dozens of times, like literally dozens of times where not like, oh, I had a bad day,
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where I'm like, dude, I'm going to fucking quit.
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I'm going to fucking blow my brains out type knockdown.
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and it's not something that could be done in a year or two years.
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I mean, are you going to see examples of people, like let's say now,
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Oh, I developed this app, and I sold it for a billion dollars to Facebook, all right?
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How many years of training or dedication or failure went into building that one app
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You know, I guarantee you have 50 people working on that app
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that probably have 100 collective years of experience building it.
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So my thing is, is like, you know, and it's not popular, man.
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Dude, it would be easy for me to stand behind my fucking cars and my house and my farm
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and, you know, everything that I've been able to accumulate materialistically
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I'm going to sell it to you for $1,000, blah, blah,
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and take advantage of all these fucking kids.
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You know, it's not the morally right thing to do.
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Instead, and you know, people may tune out because of this because they think I'm telling
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But guys, you know, when you're 17 or 18, I started when I was 19.
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So you're definitely in the right age and you're getting in that wheelhouse where it's
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time to fucking get some shit going, whether that's a lemonade stand that you learn a lesson
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But the reality is, is now is the time for him.
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You know, now if you're listening, now is the time for you to get something going and
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But the reality is, is that you are going to learn lessons along the way that are going
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Dude, when I, when I was three, four years into our business, all my friends were graduating
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college and they were all getting jobs at 45, 50, $60,000 a year.
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And I was making nothing, you know, I was making $700 a month, you know, maybe.
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And, and these guys were the guys that were telling me, they're like, man, when are you
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going to quit that vitamin shop and get a real job?
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You know, when are you going to, when are you going to realize this isn't going to work?
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And I'm three, four years into my, and if you don't think that I didn't think about
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that, I mean, dude, I'd see these guys getting new cars and driving, you know, driving
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around and like basically doing all this shit.
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Those are the same people now that are like, Hey man, let me know whenever you get a job
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You know, dude, you're going to have to realize that those things are going to happen.
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You know, for me, I mean, I could tell you when I was, I think 17 or 18, there was a,
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the internet was just started, started getting going.
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And I fell for the get rich quick shit too.
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I mean, I, I would, I was hungry to know what people's secret was, you know?
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And that's why like now when I say, Hey, there is no fucking secret.
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The secret is just stick through it and do the work.
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I know because I've been in these guys shoes and I know what the fuck it takes.
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Um, you know, I, there was a guy out there, his name was Brad Richdale and he was like
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And like, dude, you older people listening right now, when I say older, like I would say like
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35 and older, um, you guys are going to remember this dude because he used to sell like the,
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Um, there were like a hundred bucks and he's saying some books on how to place classified
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And a lot of people listening don't even know what that is, but they're basically the
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And it's, we're getting old that I have to physically explain what a classified ad is.
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But, but, uh, anyway, so he had this program that, um, was this before Google.
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And he had the internet, internet yellow pages.
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It was, uh, the, the, the, I forget what it was called, the Brad Richdale internet yellow
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And he, it was like a, it was a system that you had to buy into and it was like eight grand
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And then they like let you have a territory and you're supposed to go around and sell ads
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And it was before, it sounds stupid now because everything's on the internet already.
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But like back then the internet was very unorganized place.
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And, uh, anyway, you know, I fucking had a credit card.
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I put an eight grand on it and I never made $1 off of it.
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It's fucking, I mean, it might as well be a million bucks, you know?
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And, uh, I mean, I could tell a million stories like that where I let my, my eyes get big and
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let my, my, you know, get rich quick brains do the, do the thinking for me.
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And, uh, you know, I got burned every single time and that's it.
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I think one of the biggest keys that you hear Andy say, and he said the word and I hope it
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When you faced adversity, you went back to the work.
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He's a pastor and I heard him give a talk one time and he stood and he said, you know,
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what most people think is, is that you can just pray and everything's going to happen.
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And this is a pastor, but he said, you have to pray and then you have to remember you
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Now, let me share with you what makes this pastor unique is he's an NFL hall of famer.
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Dear friend of mine that I now look to as a mentor and a coach in my life.
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You're talking about a guy who it took 20 years when he was a senior in college, one
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year after walking on at Southern university writes down that he would become an NFL hall
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I mean, you're at Southern university, tiny little school writing down a goal like that.
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It took 20 years for him to stand on that stage in Canton, Ohio, 14 years getting beat
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up and then being a strong man off the field for them to recognize him as one of the 300
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But the key is over the 20 years, it's a commitment to the work.
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And I know it for you, Andy, that 17 years when you've got knocked down, you went back
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to the work because I've heard you talk about it.
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And in hindsight though, you know, I got to be honest, you know, I went back to the
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I didn't have the option to go do something else.
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And, and so by default, I always went back to that and that's, what's gotten me here.
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But now what I'm trying to do through this podcast is to get guys to understand and girls
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to understand that, you know, what I've learned through that timeframe, you know, if I had known
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the shit that I know now, it wouldn't have taken as long as it did.
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See, let me, let me challenge you here out of love.
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You did have a choice because you could have quit and you could have gone to do something
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else because you had the friends making 50 or 60 grand, but it was your belief in you
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that caused you to say, no, I'm going to keep working because you could have quit any one
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of those days that you had the feeling, but you didn't.
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Well, you know, I, I think it all comes down to what your level of six, what, you know,
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when I was thinking that way, I never looked at that as a life I wanted to live.
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Christophe, thank you so much for your, for your question.
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Obviously Andy really enjoyed it because we, we just took it from there and went deep into
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Something that really fucking annoys me about the internet now is that Instagram.
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And I said this in my post, uh, um, I just joined Periscope.
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And if you're looking at Periscope, it's at Andy for sell on Periscope.
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It's a really cool, uh, app because it's live and it's a live broadcast of like what your
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And, uh, and I like Snapchat and Periscope better than I do like Instagram.
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And the reason for that is because it's live and you can't fucking fake it.
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And the problem with, with what I, what I see on Instagram now, and this is why this
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question kind of pushed a button with me is I see all these guys out there that are trying
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to prey on this young group of kids and they're, it's fucking predatory.
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You're going to stand there and say, Hey, pay me X amount of dollars and I can fucking
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guarantee you're going to be a millionaire.
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And everybody fucking knows it except these guys who are 17, 18, 19 years old that don't
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have the life experience, you know what I mean?
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And I just, dude, it's not something that resonates well with me.
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So actually I was going to say to you, I want to do a whole podcast on this get rich quick.
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I think I texted to you about the get rich quick thing being total horseshit.
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So, uh, you know, I, that's why I'm passionate about this, this question.
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Well, and certainly not trying to steer us a different direction, but, uh, let me just say
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this, take a moment to insert, obviously our websites, the MFCEO.com.
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Uh, it's obviously spurred a lot of conversation that Andy feels very passionate, passionate.
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By the way, I enjoyed, uh, interacting with, with Christoph through emails.
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He was, I was telling him that, uh, Italy had a great food and beautiful women.
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And he told me, you know, if we ever get over there, he's going to show us around.
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You guys have already, obviously the content up to this point is awesome.
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So Andy, you want to introduce our topic and which obviously all of our conversation up
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I mean, I've gotten a lot of emails and that's the cool thing about this podcast is we're going
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to have, uh, topics that are practical business solutions, practical business discussions.
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Uh, and then we're going to have topics that are going to be motivational.
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And, um, we begin a lot of emails and, and one thing that I keep seeing over and over
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again through the emails is that people are curious as to like what we do when things get
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tough and what we do when things get really hard and it's hard to see the light at the
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So I thought that, you know, that would be a good topic for an entire podcast because
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I feel like that's such a common, you know, it's such a common problem that, that people
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deal with is that it is hard to stay on course, you know?
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And the difference between people that stay on course, um, and don't is success and failure.
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So I, you know, I think talking about a little bit about what we do on those days where, you
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know, we don't get out of bed and anybody that knows, knows me knows I call those the tombstone
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Um, what we do on those days where, you know, we see basically all of our dreams and hopes
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and wishes and goals go down the fucking toilet.
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Um, how do we, how do we stay on track when we have those days?
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And I think that's something that, you know, I've seen a consistent amount of emails I'm
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summarizing basically ask that same question is what do we do?
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You know, I'm not going to sit here and, and try to pretend like I have some superpower that
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nobody else does, you know, um, there's been times in my life where, like I said, just a
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few minutes ago, I, I didn't want to do it anymore.
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You know, um, everybody sees the exterior, uh, prizes, so to speak.
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You know, they see the cars, they see, uh, us doing cool shit and they see the atmosphere
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Um, you know, they see, you know, the big warehouses full of product and business and
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But what they don't see is all the shit that goes with it.
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And I think that goes right along with the get rich quick thing that we were talking about
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a minute ago is it's just very easy to tell, um, people that it's easy and get them to buy
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But, but the truth, the truth is, it's not easy.
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Uh, you know, there's, there's times where for me, I go up and down in my mental state.
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Um, even to this day, you know, uh, there was times, you know, a couple of years ago where
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I was so stressed out, I had a nervous breakdown.
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Um, I ended up in the hospital, I ended up on antidepressants for almost a year and a half,
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So, I mean, uh, to sit here and say, Oh dude, you're so mentally tough and this and that
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You know, the truth is, is that that the process of becoming an entrepreneur is basically you
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deciding to enter into a life of uncertainty, certainty, and being able to figure out how
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You told me one time that people had this mistaken notion that when you guys were first starting
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out and you were slogging through it and making no money, that's when you had your dark days.
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But then after making a bunch of money, after all the success, you just didn't have those
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I would say I was so much more carefree when we didn't have anything to lose and that we
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weren't doing that well because it was just me and Chris.
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Um, and dude, when it comes to just me, you know, I'm not a complicated person, dude.
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I'm cool if I got a pickup truck and, and a place to go shoot guns, like no bullshit.
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Um, you know, I think now I've got over a hundred people and their families dependent
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And when things aren't going well, you know, it means it's not going well for everybody
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And I start thinking about not like me, you know, cause dude, I'll go live in a regular
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And like I said, it's, I don't care about that shit.
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Um, but when I see like business, you know, and we do have times where business isn't
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Um, you know, I start worrying about the people who have dedicated and put their trust into
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And you start thinking about like their families and their kids.
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And I mean, dude, you want to talk about the fucking sky falling on your head.
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It's totally different, totally different thing when it's not you.
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Um, I'm sure people with families can relate to that, you know, on a, on a different scale,
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but, uh, the stress level now and the worry level now is it's on a totally different level.
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You know, um, as far as what I do on those days, man, you know, I think the biggest thing
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is, is that you've got to find outlets that, that lets you get your mind off of it for a
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little bit, because when you let the negativity swirl around your brain, you have a tendency
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to create way more of it, of an issue than it really is.
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Um, you know, the reality of, of, of business and life is that the sun is going to come up
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tomorrow and you've got to be able to find outlets.
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And like, for me, um, that would be like lifting.
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Um, so I go to the gym and I lift fucking weights.
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And now when I lift weights and I come home, I feel better.
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But here's the problem is that when I'm in that negative zone, I'm in that sky is falling
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I want to bury my head in the pillow and, and sleep till four o'clock in the afternoon,
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And so I think the, I think the, the thing is for me personally is that I have to force
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myself through the things that I've learned through experience to help break me out of that
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You know, I mean, that's, those are my words, man.
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You know, that's, that's, I've got a talk that I do on that.
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Um, and I feel like those three words are the difference between the people who make it
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You know, if you want to make it in life and you've got goals and you've, whatever those
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goals are, whether it's, uh, financial success, business success, uh, fitness, it could be
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The difference between people that make it and the people that don't are those three
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And that's something that it's very fucking simple.
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You don't have to make up a new plan when things aren't going well.
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You've just got to get the fuck up, decide that this is what you're going to do and go
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And the people who fucking succeed, execute the people who don't succeed, don't.
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And I think it comes, I mean, I can't think of a situation in life where that's not the
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And the moments, you know, when you talk to people and you hear them discuss their stories
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of what you're talking about, think of the workout example you gave the days you wake
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up and you want to work out, man, I can't wait to get this workout in the workouts.
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You get through it, but the days you don't want to do it and you do it anyway, like you're
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talking about, those are the days where you feel a real sense of accomplishment.
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Think of all areas of your life where you can put things in different perspective when
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Think back to the time when you did do it because we've all been through adversity.
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My opportunity to be with all of you is because of the fact I've been shaken to the core
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personally, shaken to the core professionally, been knocked down to the point where I didn't
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And I had those people in my corner to help get me up, to help me know if you do it anyway,
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It's the mindset that you have when you do follow through and you do it anyway.
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That helps you build that confidence that you can do it if you keep believing and you
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You just said something there that is extremely important, which is it builds confidence.
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You know, so many people look at themselves in the mirror and they say, man, I don't have
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I don't have that fucking willpower that so-and-so has.
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You know, I don't, I look in the mirror and, and, and I see, you know, something less that
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And that's, that's the thing that you've got to understand is that that's all in your
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You do have everything like you like to say, everything you need is already inside you.
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Everything you need is already inside you.
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And I'm borrowing Ben's words here because it's so fucking true.
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You know, it's the tendency of all of us as humans is to look ourselves in the mirror
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and say, man, I wish I had more of what that guy had.
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You're just not utilizing it, you know, because you're choosing to go pull the covers over
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your head, lay down in bed and feel sorry for yourself instead of just saying, Hey, fuck
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You know, for me, like this morning, dude, I've had a rough two weeks.
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Then I had the busiest week of business that we've ever had.
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Then this last week I was trying to recover because I was still sick and I was trying to bring
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I woke up this morning and I said last night before I went to bed, I'm like, dude, I'm
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I'm like, fuck, dude, I don't want to go work out.
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And I have this little voice in my head that, I mean, basically says, Andy, you're being
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Go to the fucking gym and do it right now.
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And, and dude, that's all you have to train yourself to basically let that voice have
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some impact on you and not, not kill it and strangle it and, and, and, you know, listen
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to that voice, that voice that tells you you're being a bitch.
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That's the, that's the right voice to listen to, you know?
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And I think that people who succeed learn to, to listen to that voice.
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Who's telling you, you know, it's like the two angels and you've got the good angel and
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the bad angel on your shoulder, like in Tom and Jerry cartoons, right?
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You've got the, you've got the good one telling you, Hey, do the right thing here.
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And then you've got the bad ones saying, Oh no, don't worry about it.
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And especially for someone like me where I really don't have to fucking answer to anybody.
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It's very easy for me to say, Hey, fuck it.
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I'm wonder, is it oversimplifying it to say that what I hear you guys saying is what you
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You will to act like, cause you, you said, I mean, I heard you both say, you know, there's
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days you just feel lousy or you feel like the sky is falling.
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But, but I consistently am hearing from both of you, no matter what you feel, I think, I
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I think what, what you, that's a perfect way to summarize it, man, because, and that's
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what I'm trying to, I guess what I'm trying to communicate here.
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Thanks for bringing that out because that's, that's exactly what I'm trying to communicate
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is that dude, we all fucking feel that way.
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All of us, me, Ben, Vaughn, you feel that way.
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You know, there's, everybody feels that way.
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And the difference is, is the people that feel that way and then just fucking do the
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shit that they need to do anyway versus the people who think like, Oh, I'm a special little
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delicate flower and I'm the only one dealing with these emotions and blah, blah, blah.
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That's that's, I mean, I'm sorry to say it like that, but that's the truth.
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And you're not the only one that feels that way.
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And I think the key is, is that you have to limit the amount of time that you have with
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the conversations with that little guy or gal that's on your shoulder.
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You know, in our work with professional and collegiate athletes, one of the first rules
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of sports psychology is for an athlete to perform at their highest level.
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They cannot solely rely on their natural talents and abilities.
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They have to understand the mental toughness side of what it takes to achieve peak performance.
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And it's a constant work to understand how can I think differently?
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How can I shift the perspective to stay focused on solutions rather than problems?
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The more you sit around and you think about the problem or the reason why you don't, good
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But the moment that you choose, I'm going to identify the solution, which is probably a
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And you repeat that behavior when you don't want to do it.
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That voice will always be on my shoulder for the rest of time.
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But if I can build the habit to limit how long those conversations are with that voice,
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And with your experience that you've had with training people on mental toughness for years
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and years and years, do you agree or disagree that every single person in this earth has
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The people that you've trained who have become peak performers at anything they do, whether
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it be business, the NFL, physical fitness, boxing, all these things that you help coach
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with, do the people who succeed learn how to control that voice better than the people
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So would you say that that's the number one key to figuring out how to be successful and
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Well, many people that do what I do, and I have the same belief, is that until you tap
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into the importance of mental toughness, it's very hard to achieve your highest level of
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But the reps you put in in the gym or the runs you put in to finish a marathon or the times
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Andy's been knocked down 17 years and you get back up and all the hard work, the phone
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calls, the business meetings, you got to put in reps with the mental toughness too.
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You have to power through and know this will take time.
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Just like your success has taken time, it will take time to develop that muscle.
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It's not Andy or I saying, oh, just be more mentally tough and you flip a switch.
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And what you're talking about reps is, is the next time some bad shit happens to you
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and you're pissed off and you want to quit, don't.
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It's the same thing as shooting free throws if you're playing basketball.
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The more times that you, it sounds cliche, right?
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Oh, every time you get knocked down, get back up.
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And it's like what every fucking motivational guy says on earth.
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But dude, there's the reason they all say it is because it's fucking true.
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So every time, you know, you get bad news, every time you get a collection notice, every
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time you, you barely have a dollar to pay your rent, every time your girlfriend dumps
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you, every time anything fucking bad happens to you, that's when you have to stand up and
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I'm going to keep moving forward with my goals.
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Dude, I can sit here and tell you so much shit about how, you know, I mean, it sounds
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Like I can sit here and tell you how, you know, we talked a story about how I got stabbed.
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So you're talking about how my face got fucked up and everybody looked at me weird for three
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I can sit here and tell you about how we got robbed.
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I can sit here and tell you about every girlfriend that ever broke up with me because, you know,
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my dreams were too big and you're never going to make it.
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I can sit here and talk to you about every friend I lost because, um, you know, Andy,
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you're fucking crazy and all you care about is business.
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I, dude, I can sit here and tell you a million fucking stories.
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It's every employee that's quit on us that, that, that said, you know, you're never going
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I could tell you a million stories, not, not a couple, not literally not a couple, not a
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I could tell you a thousand stories of shit that we've overcome.
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And to me, it's those stories that give you perspective to know that if something negative
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And I think that's the same for everybody listening, put it in perspective.
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When you face a challenge, put it back in, what is, what is worse that you've been through?
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I watched my mom come to the dinner table with an IV stand as a single mom.
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My mother's dying in front of my eyes from a rare disease called amyloidosis.
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And my mom would make it to the dinner table to ask me how my day was at school.
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My mother was driven by purpose and your purpose will overtake your pain and your perspective
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to focus on solutions rather than problems is huge.
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I watched my mom come to the dinner table with an IV stand.
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That's not so bad that I have to face a no in business.
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Don't build this skyscraper in your imagination.
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Andy's just telling you, he could give you a thousand stories of adversity he's been through.
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You're not the only ones going through adversity.
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There won't be too many lulls in this conversation.
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So I want to take the moment just to insert a couple of things.
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Number one, once again, the website is www.themfceo.com.
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Obviously, there was a great question that started out this podcast.
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You can send your questions to askandyatthemfceo.com.
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The other thing we want to mention, guys, is that we've got a lot of reviews.
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I should say we've gotten a good number of reviews.
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We haven't gotten as many as we want because that is critical to our ranking.
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I've had so many people email me and say, Andy, I love the podcast.
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I appreciate you guys listening, but do us a little bit of favor back and just take two
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minutes and leave us a review because that's how we could stay on top of our game, how we
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If you believe in what we're doing, the message that we're sending from your heart, do me
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a personal favor and leave me a review and let me know what you think.
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Because the way that we get more eyeballs on this and the way that we could change the
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way people thinking, which is the reality of what we're doing, right?
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We need to fix something that's broken in society, which is this pussified fucking mentality
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of people being weak and thinking that everything's going to come to them on a silver fucking platter.
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So if you believe in us trying to fix shit and you think this is something that people
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need to hear, please leave us a review because that's the only way people are going to hear it.
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We have had some really loyal listeners do that.
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And I have gotten feedback, by the way, just in case anybody was wondering.
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I have heard that if you do it on your mobile device, it can be a pain in the neck.
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It's really easy if you do it on your computer.
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And something else that's really important, if you're on iTunes, subscribe to the podcast
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because that increases our ratings too, which helps more people, like Andy said, hear about
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The last thing I want to say before we get back to this great conversation is that we all
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I'm at Von Kohler and I've been told to spell my name.
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It's V-A-U-G-H-N-K-O-H-L-E-R at Von Kohler.
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And then I'm on Periscope as well now, which is just at Andy Frisella.
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Ben, you're on Snapchat as the same Continued Fight.
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So yeah, we definitely want to connect with you guys.
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And now let's get back to this great conversation.
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I know both of you guys feel the same way about how adversity can actually be turned into an
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And Andy, you started to kind of touch on that, but I thought, if you don't mind, I'm going
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I mean, it's, you know, the perspective to be able to look at things and pull the good
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from them, I think, is a major differentiation point between people who make it and people
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I mean, if you talk to somebody who's, you know, not achieved the life that they want,
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they're usually pretty bitter about everything that's going on in their lives.
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And they usually point the finger at everybody else.
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And they usually have the same kind of beliefs, which is the universe or God or whoever doesn't
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And the reality is this, when you go talk to people who have made it, their perspective
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is, you know, yeah, the same bad things happen to me, but I chose to learn lessons from those
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Um, and it's just a matter of being able to look yourself in the mirror and say, what
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So you think back to the time and it really speaks to what you're talking about the times
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that you've been not down and you powered through, didn't you learn more than the time
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when it was really easy and you had a great idea that went well?
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Like it's never been really easy, you know, like I could count on my hands on one hand,
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probably whenever I, I thought something was going to be a great idea and it went just
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And I think that's the case for anybody, you know, when everybody catch that, yeah, did
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Cause everybody wants to look and go, look at everything that's going on and look how big
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And all the companies take a look at what he's saying.
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So if you're trying to wait for it to be easy, it may never be easy.
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I mean, we had just a talk an hour before we started recording this with two, three of
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And, you know, we were having an issue that we didn't have a solution for.
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And I just stopped and said, Hey, look, we've been doing this for 17 years.
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Um, we've found a solution for every single problem that we've ever had.
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And it's just having that patience to be able to step back and say, all right, we can figure
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But I mean, as far as easy, man, like it's always easy.
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It was, he owns a trucking company and, um, we were, I've been married for three years
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now and dating for, uh, I don't know, eight years, you know, or been together total for
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Emily's gonna be pissed, but here's the reality.
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But the reality is we were sitting at Easter one time and I was talking and I'm like, man,
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you know, I think I'm going to start buying some trucks, you know?
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And he's like, I want to, you know, I want to diversify my income, get some things going.
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And he's like, you don't want, you don't want to mess with that.
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You know, I could buy, you know, I could buy 10 trucks now.
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In 10 years, I could have a thousand or a hundred trucks going and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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He's like, look, that's the same thing as me saying, I'm going to get into the supplement
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business, you know, because you've been having so much success with it.
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And I say, man, it's not as easy as it fucking looks.
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And he's like, I don't think that's something that you want to get into.
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And, you know, obviously I took his advice because I don't own any trucks.
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But the point is, is that everything's easy from the outside.
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You know, it's always easy to look at somebody else's success and say, man, you know, I could
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But be willing to pay the price that's going to come along with it.
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Because I think that, and that's what I was talking about earlier with the predatory thinking.
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You know, a lot of these guys stand behind their success and then they try to sell that
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You know, that they're going to buy this program for $100 or $200 or $1,000 and make payments
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And then they're going to be, you know, on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous next year,
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You know, it's just an extreme pet peeve of mine for people to stand up.
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I think it's immoral to do that, you know, to stand behind and basically stretch the
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truth to a point where you're making people who may not have an extra $100 or $200 or $500
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to spend on something, spend it on something that's not true, you know?
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And the internet becomes a catalyst for that sort of behavior because it's easy to show
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That's one of the things that gets me excited about some of the projects that we're working
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on together and, you know, putting together ideas and putting together a book and letting
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I mean, how easy would it be for Andy, you know, a quarter of a million people following
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him on Instagram to say, hey, I got this great idea and here's what it's going to cost.
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But instead, we sit here and we brainstorm saying, it's got to be real.
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It's got to let people know this will not be easy.
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And it's the daily action steps that you can take, especially when you face the adversity that
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we're talking about, that will be the difference.
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And you'll never get around that unless somebody somehow gets lucky or you win the lottery or
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And that, you know, that's the reason why people that do end up the one out of a million
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person who does end up hitting it big quickly, they lose it right away quickly because they
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haven't learned the lessons along the way that allow them to manage the money properly.
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It's the same reason why, and you work with the NFL guys, it's the same reason why guys in
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the NFL end up broke the second year after they're out of the league because that money,
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although they worked their whole life to earn it, they never really earned it in a way that
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All of a sudden, they're flooded with all this shit.
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So, you know, the time where you're going up the hill is a time for you to master these
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skills of being efficient with money, you know, how to minimize losses.
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You know, there's so much that goes along with it that we could cover.
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I mean, we're talking about a six-hour podcast, you know, but the truth of the matter is...
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Just because I know that we're going to probably move on a little bit, and I would really...
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I think our listenership would really benefit from, Ben, how you think of or how you refer
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to this whole concept of seeing the good and the bad.
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So, I mean, everybody can check it out for free.
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We have a book called Your Mental Toughness Playbook.
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So, whether it's our athletes in the NFL, the PGA, boxers, or business professionals
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we work with around the world, if you go to freeplaybook.net, you can get all six mental
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training tools for free, a downloaded e-book version.
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You know, my mom would get phone calls from the Boston Medical Center.
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You got to wear jope stockings around your legs, come have painful procedures, and we
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And you're the second woman under 40 years old we've ever seen or heard of having this
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And my mother's response would be to hang up the phone, call her boyfriend, Alan, and
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take my brother on a family trip to go to Boston, to go to Chinatown because we like
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Chinese food, and go bowling, candlestick bowling because we like bowling.
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So, what my mother taught me at a very young age was we have the power to reframe.
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The most successful people in the world focus on solutions, not problems.
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No, but they see those problems as an opportunity.
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So, if you were to just take that little shift and the next time you face adversity,
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say reframe and identify the solution, it's a huge difference.
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And really, me saying reframe is Andy's version of do it anyway.
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All you're saying is shift the perspective and do what you have to do to be successful.
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Don't just sit in a corner and cry and think somebody's showing up to that pity party.
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You know, people have, you could tell yourself the best stories.
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You know, it's, you have these special circumstances.
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You have this, you have that, and but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, and they
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have something to say to everything that you could say.
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Those are the people that need to look internally the most.
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I think what we're talking about here is, is your internal, is mastering that ability
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to, to speak to yourself in a way that causes you to move.
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And when I say move, I mean execute, you know, do productive things.
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And, um, you know, we talk a lot about working hard and doing the work and do it anyway and,
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and all this stuff and, and I got a really cool question, uh, from my cousin.
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He texts me and he's like, man, you know, I listened to your podcast.
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Um, I would like you to hit on the, on the, you know, what about people that work hard?
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You know, I'd like to clarify this for, he's like, you know, a guy who pours concrete for
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A guy who paints stripes on the parking lot for a living works hard.
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So when you talk about working hard, these people look at you and they say, oh, well,
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But the, but when I say, Hey, you got to do the work or do the work or do it anyway.
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And this and that, that's under the context that you have a plan that is going to be productive
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And I think we don't talk enough about that.
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We talk a lot about like, just, you know, quit being a pussy, do the work, blah, blah,
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And, and guys who are, you know, maybe doing these, these hard physical jobs are like,
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But when I say do the fucking work or when I say do it anyway, I'm saying that under the
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context that you've thought through your plan and your, your, your strategy to grow,
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you know, um, the, the, uh, the, can I pick up on something?
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That means you have to know where you want to go.
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You have to put a little thought investment into this.
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You know, it's not just, Hey, show up and work as hard as I can without any strategy of
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That's like showing up at the tour de France and, and peddling as hard as you can, not knowing
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And so when I say, Hey, do the work, do it anyway.
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You know, and we say all these things about working hard.
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That's what the, with the idea of fucking having a plan.
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If you're the guy pouring concrete and you're, you don't have a plan, you're going to be pouring
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fucking concrete and working your balls off your entire life.
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You know, your plan should be to move up the ladder and maybe start your own concrete company,
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you know, or maybe, you know, work your way up to, to, if it's a huge company to a point
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of leadership where you're, you're leading a big crew of men and your life is significantly
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And then you could teach the lessons to these guys on how to improve.
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And the example that he used for me is my cousin.
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He's a surgeon and he's like, man, I, I worked my ass off.
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And now I can only make as much money as I work.
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And I, I'm, you know, and he's getting to the age where, you know, he's, he's in his
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mid, mid forties, early forties, where he's wanting to spend more time with his family.
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And my answer to that question is, well, all right, well, you need to figure out a way
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to roll your success into some other passive income types, things like real estate or other
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Because if you have a career that relies solely on the amount of hours that you work, it's
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going to be very tough for you to like spend the time with your family in that aspect.
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You can't just, you know, don't, when I say do the fucking work, don't take that.
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Like you're going to go there and mindlessly fucking do the work.
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Because if you mindlessly do the work without a plan, you're still not going to end up anywhere.
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And you have to remember, Andy talked about this earlier.
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We can't tell you exactly when the success, is it going to be a year, two years, five years,
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One of my favorite stories, and he's become like a little brother, a huge blessing in
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my life, is a linebacker for the Washington Redskins named Will Compton.
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I mean, he would stand out five years old, out in his front yard, playing football by
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himself, telling people he would play in the NFL.
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And your teachers say, you need to have realistic goals.
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I mean, go all the way to high school, and his password on his ATM card, and if you're
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All he did was continue to believe, when the world tried to tell him it wasn't his
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Sports hernias, when he was told he couldn't run fast enough, and he would post his fastest
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time with a sports hernia, all the way to now, he's entering his third year with the
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Last year, started five games, and had a three-game stint where he led the NFL in tackles.
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He could see a vision of himself playing in the NFL, and now he does.
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You know, if you don't bake that cake for the right amount of time, it's never going to
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And that's something that I think people consistently don't consider.
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Dude, I've seen people come to compete against us with, dude, unlimited amounts of funds.
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Because we've been here for a long fucking time, and we take care of our people the best
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By our people, I mean our customers and our employees.
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So when you're a new company and you go in, you've got $10 or $20 or $100 million to come
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in and try to take a market, it's not going to happen.
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It's the same thing as, like, you see every year on Super Bowl ads.
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You see these companies that you've never heard of on the Super Bowl, like these brand
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And they try to throw all their money at these advertisements, hoping that that's going
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to build their company off of, you know, because so many eyeballs see it.
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But the reality is, is it doesn't matter how much Super Bowl ads you buy or how much advertising
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you buy if you're not allowing that cake to bake for the right amount of time.
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Because what do you guys think when you see a new company on the Super Bowl?
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And then, you know, five seconds later, it's out of your brain.
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You don't even fucking remember who it is.
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And that's whether it's, you know, I explain this a lot because we're in the fitness industry.
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But, you know, and we have sales reps all over the country.
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And when we do our sales training, all these people are fitness people.
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I said, how many of you guys think that if you eat healthy for one week and exercise
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for one week, that you're going to have results in fitness?
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And then I say, all right, well, what about 90 days?
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Are you going to totally transform your life in a year if you follow the good habits that
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we all know to do, eat right, drink water, lift weights, cardio, all the pieces of the
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cake, you know, all the ingredients of the cake?
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Everybody's like, well, hell yeah, you could take somebody to lose 200 pounds in a year.
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So what makes you think that you can do the successful habits of business success in seven
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Or I've been doing it for 30 days or 60 days and it's not working.
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That shit takes a long time, you know, and it takes longer than it does in fitness.
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So when you think about it, that's why fitness is a pretty cool parallel to success because
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it's the same kind of discipline applied in a different area.
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You know, you've got to do that shit every day consistently or it's just never going to
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One of the things that's very common in the emails that we get that I noticed is that a
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lot of people say, oh, I'm putting in the work, I've got a plan, I'm doing all this stuff
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and yet, man, I'm struggling so much and what am I doing wrong?
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And you know, it dawns on me that why do they think they're doing something wrong?
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Because the reality is, is that they should expect adversity.
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That cake you're trying to bake, one of the ingredients that you've got to put in there
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and probably the biggest ingredient is a big old motherfucking scoop of struggle.
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You put that in your cake and if you don't put a big ass scoop in that cake, it ain't
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And the reason people think they're doing something wrong is because all you fucking
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see on TV is the fucking Kardashians or fucking, you know, the redneck couple that won the
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You know, you, the fuck, dude, because dude, doing the work for a long fucking time isn't
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You know, all you see on late night TV is the dudes that, you know, oh, I got rich in
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You know, you, you, you, you, Vaughn, you're meant to be blue collar.
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You go over there and pour fucking concrete.
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You know, you go travel around the world and speak to everybody and, and, uh, you know,
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make millions of dollars being an expert, but it ain't for you.
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That's the story society fucking tells us.
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And nothing against guys that pour concrete.
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Cause I fucking did that my whole entire life growing up all through high school.
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But the reality is, is most people growing up are told that's all they're ever going to
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fucking be, which is why they think whenever they jump into something new and they start
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struggling that it's not for them because they remember all those people telling them
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like, Hey, you know, that's really, you know, that's for other guys, you know, that's, that's
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for, you know, success breeds success, you know?
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And they tell them all these fucking little things that are, that, that you believe.
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And then all of a sudden when it's hard for you, you tell yourself a story, well, I guess
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You know, I guess, uh, I guess I should go do something.
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I hate my whole entire life and dread waking up and, um, you know, want to blow my fucking
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brains out every day of my life because that's what I was meant to do.
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So yeah, it's easy to buy that story from yourself.
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You know, gentlemen, it is going to be really, really hard naming this podcast episode because
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We've got a lot of good things that we've talked about, but bring us home.
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One, you guys are far better and capable of doing things than you have been taught that
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you have been told your whole entire life is the truth.
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People are going to tell you that it's not the truth.
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You have to realize that that guy that you tell yourself has it easier or doesn't have
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to deal with the stress that you have or all that stuff.
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You have to look yourself in the mirror and be honest with yourself and say, you know what?
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I'm justifying my lack of motivation right now with excuses as to why I'm not going to
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And that's when you control that conversation and you realize, no, that shit is meant for
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That's when your life changes from being somebody who's accepting what life gives you to somebody
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who's taking what you quote, quite honestly deserve at that point in time.
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It's a big difference in the way that you're, you know, you go from being like, oh, I'm going
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to, I'm going to take this little piece of cake and be happy with it and shut the fuck
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up in the corner to being like, no motherfucker, give me that whole cake.
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Number two, realize that it is hard for everybody.
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It's not just hard for, you know, whoever else.
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Dude, I get up in the mirror and I look myself in the eye every day and I'm like, fuck dude,
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You know, so I think that, you know, being honest with yourself and realizing that, yeah,
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we all have our own challenges and we all have this and that and being able to look at
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other people when shit is bad and say, that guy's got it way worse than me and he's still
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You know, cause there's a lot of people in the world that you can look at and say, that
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guy's got it way worse or had it way worse and he's still getting it fucking done.
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You know, I, I don't know what else to tell anybody because we have covered a lot of shit
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I mean, I mean, I, I mean, if you really want to know what you, what you're going to
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You know, I think sometimes it's, you know, that's Andy's message.
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I mean, it's really not any more complicated and, and, you know, people are always going to
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look themselves in the mirror and they're going to say, man, you know, I've got this
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special circumstance or that special circumstance or this handicap or this sickness or this or
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that or this or this, this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Switching from the mindset of so-and-so has it easier to the other side and saying so-and-so
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has it tougher and they're still getting it done is going to be the difference between
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you being able to control that mental conversation where you don't want to do shit and being
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able to control it and say, you know what?
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And anybody who wants to tell you anything different in terms of like, oh, this is easy
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and anybody can do it and blah, blah, blah, dude, they're full of shit.
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It's a choice to accept that mindset and want to change.
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And I can tell you from, you know, the amazing response and crowd at Summer Smash, which is
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And for those of you that weren't here, we'll see you next year.
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But when you said do it anyway, and then you go look on Andy's Instagram, look at the
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If you're willing to think differently and do it anyway, just like it's been a difference
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for Andy over 17 years, it can be the difference for you.
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Yeah, it makes it makes your potential for greatness become unlimited.
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And it makes you realize that, you know, guys, I just think that, you know, it's almost silly
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that we're even doing this podcast because the shit is so simple.
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But, you know, when when you wake up in the morning and you don't want to do shit or when
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you go, you know, you come home, you're like, fuck, I don't want to do this anymore.
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It's the difference between what you tell yourself and what you accept the truth.
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You know, and I've got that little voice in my head, just like all of you guys who says,
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And I'm sure there's people out there be like, yeah, motherfucker, you drove to your
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Well, you have no fucking clue what it took to get to that point.
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And you know what it took to get to that point?
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It took a long time of me, basically, when that little voice starts saying, man, you
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It took a long time of me saying, fuck you, I'm not quitting.
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And that's what you got to learn to tell yourself.
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If you have a question for Andy, askandy at TheMFCEO.com.