2026-07-15 SPOTIFY
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Summary
In this episode, Erica, Owen, Marcella, and Steve are joined by Joel Pollack to talk about Scott Adams' new book, Scott Adams: A Life in the Navy Yard. They also talk about the importance of the trades and how important it is to have them in your life.
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think I did? I think you did. Okay. Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Oh, Owen's so chipper.
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Oh, good morning. I like you when you're chipper, Owen, like you're like all excitable. I see Kevin
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and Beverly and Gracie. Excitable. I need one of those mirrors like romper room so we can actually
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do romper room like i see smar i see crusher good morning you guys good morning youtube
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spotify rumble locals and x rumble come on in there's rumble rumble just kicked in here we go
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oh see now i can hear everybody hello mike all right you guys welcome in here we are the home
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team together again um so listen joel pollack i think we'll be stopping by he wants to update us
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about um the scott adams biography cannot wait uh did you guys see the post joel and joshua working
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on the book together very exciting um so here's my warning stella is very chatty this morning so
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we'll see how that goes but anywho all right you guys let's do it it's time for the sip
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now it has come to my attention that some of you fast forward past the simultaneous sip
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well hell you can do that but you're missing the good stuff it's the part where everybody comes
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together in this moment of solidarity there is no violence there is no ugliness in the world
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during the simultaneous sip and all you need all you need is a cup or
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margarita glass a tank or chalice or steinette canteen jug or flask
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join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the day
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the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous sip and it
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there will be cursing i guarantee it no i'm just kidding so owen he was talking to you
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because owen has already um confessed to us that sometimes he would skip the sip because he knew
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scott was trying to hypnotize him and he wasn't gonna let it happen right owen early on yeah i
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I am joined with my two amazing co-hosts, Marcella and Owen.
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And you are at the Scott Adams School, which is different than this Real Coffee with Scott Adams, obviously,
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and all of Scott's amazing YouTube videos live on YouTube. And there's more on locals.com,
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which is a subscriber base. But you guys, I was watching one of Scott's shows. I often do in the
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morning and I'll get you the date. I'll look in a minute, but it was so good. We had cursing
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because somebody dared bring up, you know, vaccine injuries. I was like, Ooh, who is that?
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We had him talking about hoaxes about, you know, like, I feel like he hit every topic so far in
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this one. And I was like, Oh my God, this is like, we had drones. We, we had it all. So it was, um,
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a fun show to listen to. And so I recommend you guys definitely go back through YouTube,
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just scroll through the years and just randomly pick on one and just enjoy it because I do almost
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every day. All right. So that being said, all right, you guys, I have a couple of clips for
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you before Joel gets here, whenever he gets here. But the first one, it ties into all of this talk
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we've been having about the trades and how much they're needed. And I am getting feedback from
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people that they're going to go into them themselves, and they're going to encourage
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their kids to do the same. But here is one of the most financial savvy men on the planet,
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Jamie Dimon. And let's take a listen to what he's talking about today.
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We're sitting in the Philadelphia Navy yard where we build ships. They built ships here
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that won the Revolutionary War, that helped win World War II. And so now you have the arsenal of
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the arsenal of democracy has been reignited, and shipbuilding, people said, couldn't happen.
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But here you have Hanwha shipbuilding at the Philadelphia Navy Yard, which is going to be
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building components for nuclear submarines and major ships. So we're just aiding here by doing
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some financing, you know, special kind of financing for Hanwha here. But very importantly,
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and people have to remember, this is like one big complex ecosystem. We're also financing,
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you know people we need 300,000 electricians welders etc to build ships in the next five or
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ten years so we're helping finance people who train people who will train people here there's
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16,000 workers here that number may very well double over the next five years as it builds more
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ships and we build a lot of shipbuilding back to the United States there's also a whole ecosystem
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here I'm going to meet with a rose industry later you know there are probably a hundred vendors who
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help supply all the things that take place here so we're doing our part to help you know protect
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the future of freedom and the future of America. I love that. I love, too, that they're going to
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help finance people who will, you know, like pay for the training of these people. That's how
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desperate we are. What do you think about that, Owen? I think it's a great idea.
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Well, I mean, I appreciate the role that he's playing in it. I'm a little conflicted about
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the whole let's get into shipbuilding again thing. I do think we probably never should have
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stopped and i do think we should be the best you know ship builders and on the planet just because
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we've always been the strongest navy for however long i've been alive at least and so i'm glad we're
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moving in that direction overall but i just i kind of wonder like what is the future because
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with all the drones and all this like it just seems like a big ship is going to be just a big
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target and you know you can't get out of the way quickly so like if you've got all these missiles
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and drones and things coming at you how is that really going to work and i you know maybe they've
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got stuff worked out with all the lasers and other things that they're putting on ships to try and
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protect them but it just seems like a vulnerable spot when you can't move very easily in the water
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but um you know i i'm glad the opportunity is there it certainly seems like when you're backing
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things that the government is behind it's a kind of a guaranteed bet so i don't think jamie diamond
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is necessarily taking much of a risk with the financing because it's kind of like guaranteed
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government contracts. But hey, that's how things work in this country. I mean, it helps the job
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creation. It helps the economy. It helps the military. You're learning a trade, a skill.
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And I was talking with some friends last week and one of them is good friends with an electrician.
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And she was saying that he's so desperate for electricians that he's actually paying
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for them to get trained. And then, um, they're like working right with him after that. So it's
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just, you know, it's so tough with the trades, but I do feel like the tide's turning. I feel
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like people are talking about it more and it's 400,000, um, that they need with the welders and
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all the tradesmen to do these things. So, um, I just found it interesting that he was talking
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about it marcella completely agrees um so that was easy for me um but also okay so so you guys
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we're gonna keep following along with this and i just love the pace that it's going on and i love
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seeing you guys in here telling telling us you know that your kids are doing these things um
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or that you did it yourself and you know you're waiting for your son to become old enough so then
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he can do it don't worry marcella's back you guys they're like where's marcella um so marcella did
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you get to hear jamie and do you want to say anything about about that um you know i think
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it's great i agree with owen um you know it's it's a big target so you can get them but you know
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i'm always a believer in technology and we don't know what the world uh what tech will bring us
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you know um i always think of star trek and the cloaking device uh of the ships but anyways that's
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as random um but i think overall um being able to have people that know how to build
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uh rather than take uh make something rather than take something away um it's always great and the
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fact that these companies are investing in in in the different employees that they have that's
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it's always great i love that chamath you know did that maker versus taker because it's really
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like taken a hold and everybody's using that now. And I, I just think it's, it's like the perfect
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thing that we need to be thinking about is kind of like, ask not what your country can do for you.
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Right. Are you a maker? Are you a taker? I'd, I'd like to personally feel like I'm a maker. So,
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um, I don't know, like it's better to give than receive, right? Oh God. Anyway, this group,
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why am I even talking about this right now? Okay. Sorry. I was thinking about all you freshies out
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there. Um, let me just move right along. So speaking of Chamath, I'm going to move on to him.
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This was, um, this is interesting in two ways, but let's play this clip. So Chamath, you guys,
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he's a part of the all in podcast. He's also like a billionaire, like what would we call him? Venture
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capitalist, startup guy, tech guy, um, great friends with, um, David Sachs, who is working
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with the trump administration so let's listen to what this kind of bothers me but let's take a
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listen i love it and i hate it let's go the reality is that most of us were lied to by the
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media about president trump and if you just go back to the source material you should take away
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two things one he didn't say half the things he said and two why did these other people just
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fabricate what they wanted to say so that they could essentially assassinate his character
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I think that that second thing is completely unacceptable in America.
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And there's still been no repercussions, really.
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I admitted where, you know, the way that I met him was I admitted on the pod,
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which, you know, has millions of viewers, and I said, I got it totally wrong.
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And I got to know him, and I put the phone down.
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I called my wife and I said, we got it totally, totally wrong.
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And then I got to know him and he is fantastic.
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Like, I love what he's saying, but I, oh my God, did I just sound like a valley girl?
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But the thing is, is like, how are you so brilliant and you don't know that that was
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all BS and you didn't do any like fact checking or listening for yourself. And, you know, like
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Cernovich had a post about this. Well, first of all, Cernovich thinks that he, Chamath, might be
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wanting to run for governor of California. But then he's also like, oh, you know, then these guys like
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turn around and now suddenly, you know, they're Trump bros. These are my words. And, you know,
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now they're going to move to Texas and still complain about all the same stuff. And, you know,
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So they're, you know, it's kind of like, it's not that it's too little too late because it's
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always a great time to change your mind when you find out the new facts. But I don't know. I don't
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know what my take is. I don't know what my thing is with this. I generally love it. Marcella,
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I'm going to come to you first. I mean, just believing the news for so long and the hoaxes
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and I think what it is for me is that I feel like if you believed all those hoaxes and you
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believed the news, then you literally had to believe that anybody who was supporting our
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president or voted for him were the scum of the earth, which is like what a lot of them had said,
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not Shamath. But I don't know. Why am I so annoyed with this?
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No, you know, I think Shamath, not knowing him personally, you know, I think he's being genuine.
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I think he sees how things have gone. I think in the past, Silicon Valley was
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How would you say they were sort of in their own bubble and nothing touched them because we didn't have certain governors that went in and created these, you know, the billionaire tax that they're talking about here in California.
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They were untouchable, basically. And so they were able to live this ideal dream of having this tech and this type of politics, and yet they didn't see the outcome of it.
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But, you know, as we've gone along, we've seen the Democratic Party, just like they have, turn into a very leftist, extreme, communist driven party.
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So I think like as they went along and realized this, although, you know, I do, Cerno is correct in his criticisms of them, but I think they are, they're very intelligent people and they're seeing the writing on the wall.
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they're seeing that these things are going to affect them i think the issue is it's affecting
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them now right um which is which is fair you know like you know when something doesn't affect you
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maybe you're not really involved whatever you know so i think they see that i'm i'm very positive
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that chamath is on president trump's side very positive of that however you know you never know
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where they're gonna go they they seem to with another election right the other yeah with another
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election with another party so you know they they're always changing uh fluctuating but i mean
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i guess that's the the name of the game for all of us you know well and you know my favorite um
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jason i mean he took off to california and it's like you know what i mean to um to austin texas
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yeah and it's like you know what stay there and fix it you know like don't keep complaining and
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just run away i don't know i wanted to um also clarify david friedberg was the one that to talk
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about makers and takers in the all-in pod where chamath is part of it which i'm i'm sure chamath
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is in agreement with but yes for sure good morning joel like hello with the guns let's go
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very sexy today oh and you gotta level up tomorrow
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it's so good to see you thank you thank you i just got off a red eye flight so everything's
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kind of jumbled around in my head but um i have actually a very good excuse for being late which
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is i was writing a page of scott's biography and i went way over time partly because i'm so tired
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um but uh anyway you're right and i'm dressed up as i i'm about to hopefully go for a quick run
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And although the oppressive heat in Washington, D.C., where I just landed is a bit of a disincentive.
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But can we just unpack this for a minute, you guys?
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Like, I cannot I have the hardest time getting like to a lunch date with friends and I have all day to do it.
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I know you're you're doing your prayers and what you're thankful for.
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Now he's going to go in the oppressive heat and work out.
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And I'm like, lucky that I put lipstick on today.
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I'm exhausted. I'm just grateful for the energy to do any of this. I mean, I usually can sleep
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on planes. This time I only slept for a couple of hours. I sort of have a formula for red eyes,
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which is kind of eat before you get to the airport. I actually usually bring sushi to the
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airport, eat at the airport. Then I have some... I know Scott was very anti-alcohol, but I basically
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have one serving of some alcoholic beverage and then i fall asleep on the flight and wake up
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on the other coast and i'm okay um this time it just didn't work and i don't exactly know why
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but i woke up in the middle of the night and then i just started working um so i haven't had as much
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sleep as i normally get on red eyes and you don't get that much on red eyes but at least usually i
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sleep the whole flight and this time i didn't and i never take any sleeping pills or anything like
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that i'm very uh i'm generally very wary of pills or anything so um not because i don't like
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swallowing pills i'm just kind of like why why put extra stuff in your body you know most most things
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you need a remedy for you can you can find joel's so tired he's explaining his pill popping wise
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joel you're a brave man eating raw fish and then getting on a plane
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that would be the last thing i would pick like that and a salad those are two things i would
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not eat before getting on a plate you know i've never really had a problem uh as far as that goes
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i mean i i um my wife's stomach is a lot um more sensitive than mine i i like to joke that i
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basically have intestines of steel like i can basically eat or drink almost anything and
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nothing happens to me. Oh my God. You're so lucky. I'd be like, Oh no. Oh, all right. Well,
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that was, that was TMI. So anyway, Joel, I was telling everybody, I, you know, I love the picture
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of you and Joshua working on the book, on the Scott Adams biography. And, um, I'm so glad you
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could come on and like update us with that and whatever you want to tell us, like we want to
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hear it all right so um last monday i got together with josh i finished the second draft about a week
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before that and um he spent a week going over it and he gave me 357 notes and then another i don't
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know 90 something corrections so there was about 450 some odd you know things to deal with um
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and we sat there and we kind of went over the book and he suggested a couple of things i needed
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to add into the book the book right now the draft is about 100 000 words um 100 000 words i mean
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it's probably about 400 pages. It's a little long. So I need to trim it while also adding material.
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So that's going to be challenging. I've interviewed over 30 people already for the book.
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So I've got to integrate that now. And I'm still interviewing people. I'm still asking people for
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interviews and i'm going to add some structure into the book that i think will make it uh even
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more interesting and i have to tell you i've discovered things even in the last week or so
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of sitting with uh with josh and just talking about scott that i didn't know and so i think
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it's going to blow people's minds actually i i think i i've i've spent a week sort of with my
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with my head having exploded and sort of trying to put it back together again um but josh yeah
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josh and i basically we you know he's from um cincinnati or cincinnati area so i flew to
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cincinnati we rented a hotel room for the day a nice room near the airport with a desk and a couch
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and just sat there and we worked and i still have my regular work to do for my regular job
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So I did that also and then got back on a flight and came back.
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And it wasn't so simple because I had to, in both ends, both going to Cincinnati and coming from Cincinnati, I had flights that had stops in Nashville.
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So, you know, connecting to Nashville, luckily the weather was OK.
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But, yeah, there was like this trek to Cincinnati.
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and yeah you have that picture of of us working there and what can i say i mean let me let me say
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this about josh scott reached out to josh when scott got canceled to publish reframe your brain
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and to republish the works that he had the rights to that had been dropped by his publisher and scott
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was introduced to josh and was told that josh is the best editor out there and
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that's how they interacted and um i'm suddenly getting messages from everybody sorry i just
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got distracted um and um you know it was um it was something i realized just in the in the day
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of working with Josh so intensely, um, just how good he really is. I mean, he's, he's incredible
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and going through the, the notes and the edits that he, that he made on the second draft, they're
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just, they're just mind blowing. Some of them are so good. They're so incisive. So, um, but yeah,
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I mean, I've, I have found things and I've, I've, um, you know, I don't want to, yeah, I know. I
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want to ask, but there's, there's, there's so many, there's so much that's so interesting.
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and there are some things that i found that are so funny that i wish scott could have been here to
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um joke around with uh i there are things i almost want to tease him about that are so funny
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um so you know you you miss him every day especially you miss him when you're doing a
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project like this um there are things i want to ask him there are things i want to talk to him
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about. Obviously, I can't do that. But, you know, he had some really, really incredible
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things in his life. And, you know, I'll give you a little hint of something. So in his archives,
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he has like a couple of, hold on, I have to, sorry, I can't multitask right now. I'm a little
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sleep. I have to send somebody a message. Um, okay. Yeah. Do that. I, cause I, I do have
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questions too. Cause, um, I feel like I know the answer to this, but I I'm wondering, is the
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biography going to have an audio version? And did Scott say who he wanted to read it and why it's
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me? No, I'm just kidding. Um, I'm so just kidding. Um, because I do, I love consuming books,
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you know, like through my, through my ears. So I'm just wondering if we're going to have that
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option. An audio book. I'd love to do an audio book. Um, they're pretty intense in terms of
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labor, you know, they're, they're kind of labor intensive. Um, I would love to do it. I I've done
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it with most of my other books. I've done it personally, you know, with my own voice and it
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always improves the book. I mean, I, I sat there with a couple of the eBooks that I self-published
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over the years. I did this last year before the fire. So two years ago, and I sat there and I
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I set up my wife's closet to be a recording studio and you'd find little
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you hadn't caught before or little things you wanted to say differently.
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So you would go into the, you know, if it's self-published,
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It would probably make the draft better. You know,
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it would make Scott's biography better if I could read it aloud. Yeah.
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I mean, that's actually a great idea. It just takes so much time.
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but wait Joel before you go on Owen before you go because he has to go did you want to ask Joel
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anything about the book or well I would just mention um you know I think I just posted a
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story or at least I saw one that was saying that um apparently people like AI narration of books
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better than humans now so you might not have to you can just have AI do it so um I'll tell you
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something about AI and writing I think AI even though it's gotten so much better I think AI
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writing is mostly garbage reading he's saying reading no reason to you i mean i just yes people
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are used to the voice i actually was walking around my neighborhood here and there's a guy
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listening to a podcast and clearly the the or listening to some audio clearly it was ai audio
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like an ai audiobook i get that i get that um i just think that books are a particular experience
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that if you can you want to have the author's voice i mean it's not necessary i've done books
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where someone else i think i did one audio book one of my books was an audio book that somebody
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else read in their own voice a human being um but i i think you've you've kind of got to do it
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yourself i mean you're telling a story and i don't know yeah um i mean maybe there'd be an ai option
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i have no idea i i just think i think you know if you can tell the story it just it's just so much
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better and you wrote it i definitely like it when when authors do that i mean i like it when the
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the author reads the book but i understand it's a lot of work too and it's yeah time yeah so let
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me um in my with my tired brain here let let me uh just tell you what i was going to say before
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i got distracted sorry i i uh i got a call to do an interview and so now i i don't i don't know
00:26:09.660
where that person is but uh um scott had this has this archive and he has incredible material there
00:26:18.620
from his early life. I mean, he probably threw a lot away, but he kept the essence of a lot of
00:26:27.860
things. And one of the most interesting things he has is a set of metal boxes that has index cards
00:26:38.020
in them where he wrote down every idea he had for jokes. There must be thousands of jokes in these
00:26:46.540
index card holders um and some of them are so funny and i don't know if he used some of them
00:26:55.440
but it's just incredible to flip through them i mean there's there's no way you can absorb all
00:27:01.000
that material you know i mean it's it's but it is it is incredible um i'll just try to
00:27:06.500
i really don't want to some of some of the best jokes are like stuck in my head i kind of almost
00:27:11.220
want to use them for the book but um i'll give you a hint as to one of them uh he wrote down on one
00:27:18.880
card um unification theory elvis killed kennedy oh my god i love him like there's so many little
00:27:30.600
things like that that i think some of them were things that people told him you know because he
00:27:35.720
started putting his email in the dilbert comic so that when email was a new thing so that people
00:27:40.260
started contacting him and giving him ideas for the Dilbert strip. And so I think some of the
00:27:46.240
things he wrote down were notes or things that people suggested to him for Dilbert. But some
00:27:53.020
things were simply just funny ideas that occurred to him. A lot of dad jokes, a lot of funny riddles.
00:28:01.020
um knock knock who's there anita anita who i need a punchline
00:28:07.540
you know stuff like that but like it's it's just thousands and thousands and thousands oh my gosh
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you look at this and you're like how can one human being have had this many jokes i mean it's just
00:28:22.160
you know and you hear about comedians doing this kind of thing building a reservoir of material
00:28:26.240
and it's real it's real and it's handwritten most of it and um you know so you know writing
00:28:34.460
this biography you have access to that kind of thing and um it's just it's just incredible but
00:28:39.900
there but let me let me let me say this before i um i guess wrap up
00:28:45.440
there's a mystery that the book is going to solve there's a mystery that this
00:28:56.140
biography will solve it Josh has talked about it as a kind of catharsis this whole book for those
00:29:05.200
who loved Scott and yes you will revisit things you'll learn more about things you knew already
00:29:11.440
you know you'll you'll you'll fill in things you know you'll see things that refer to other things
00:29:16.740
I mean you'll you'll experience the book if you loved Scott and followed Scott for years you'll
00:29:20.260
experience it as a great connection to him but there's also a mystery in the book the book tries
00:29:29.360
to solve a mystery and that mystery is the most exciting thing about the book to me there's some
00:29:38.420
there's something about scott that nobody understood and the book will tell you
00:29:45.720
oh joel you tease first the tank top and now this
00:29:52.600
it's it's an incredible i mean to to to find this about scott was just the most incredible thing i
00:30:06.760
mean um josh and i and josh if you're watching don't don't spill the beans um josh and i sat
00:30:13.820
there josh we were talking about this and and we and i sat there for a moment and just realized
00:30:19.860
what we had just discovered and um there were no words really for a while so i think there's a
00:30:28.440
mystery here that i have to bring out a little bit more in the third draft because i've only
00:30:35.120
uncovered it as i've gone along and in that sense this has probably been the most exciting project
00:30:41.340
they've ever done because you write things you think you are sharing your ideas with people
00:30:47.500
you're telling an audience something that you know about but to have a project where you discover
00:30:53.240
something that you didn't know before and didn't even know to ask about before um is is pretty
00:30:59.520
incredible so there's a there's a really exciting realization that i had i had it last week in
00:31:07.480
Cincinnati while Josh and I were working. And I now understand what the mystery is that the book
00:31:13.900
has to solve. Oh, shoot. I did not expect this turn of events. I'm very excited. I mean,
00:31:22.500
can you not leave it 400, 500 pages long? You don't have to trim it, do you?
00:31:27.980
I do. I mean, the last biography I wrote, the first biography I wrote was about 600 pages too
00:31:34.340
long i mean the temptation when you write a biography is to put so much into it the thing
00:31:38.300
about scott is he left such a huge archive of material i mean you can go there are thousands
00:31:42.200
of youtube episodes and you know 30 years of dilbert i mean it's it's so there's so much there
00:31:48.240
i can't include all that in the book so in a way that liberates me to sort of focus on the
00:31:53.340
most important things um there are things people didn't know there are things there are things
00:31:58.540
people didn't know there are things that will make you laugh and laugh and laugh um
00:32:06.240
yeah i'll just give you one and this is a public one so this is not it's a public one you where
00:32:13.700
you probably haven't connected the dots yet but it's based on public information so i'm not giving
00:32:18.000
you anything you didn't know already but you remember scott introduced an african-american
00:32:23.220
character for the first time dave dave right dave is an engineer dave is a black character who
00:32:30.360
identifies as white that's the gag of the whole thing it was his way of kind of sending up the
00:32:35.660
the dei culture the woke culture that came in after 2020 and scott was identifying as black
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at that time right so dave's the black engineer who identifies as white so he messes everything up
00:32:52.780
i i don't know i thought it was just because it was just like a
00:32:58.520
plain Jane name. No, there was a reason. Yeah. Does anyone remember? If you think about it hard
00:33:07.340
enough, you'll figure it out. Dave? Yeah. I mean, I want to guess something, but I'm afraid to say
00:33:15.240
it. There are no wrong answers. No, there are a lot of wrong answers, but there are no embarrassing
00:33:20.800
answers. All right. You say it. No, you say it. I want to see if you can get it.
00:33:29.860
You can read the chat white name or his brother's name.
00:33:37.540
And that's who he made things like his jokes or something.
00:33:42.840
Visualized his brother telling him and making him laugh.
00:33:54.640
Dave Adams was born Dave Adams, not David Adams, Dave Adams.
00:34:08.820
Scott had a constant back and forth with his brother.
00:34:14.680
And Dave, Scott used to say whenever he wanted to think of whether something was funny or not, he would think about whether his brother would laugh at it.
00:34:21.880
And if his brother would laugh at it, then it was funny.
00:34:24.040
um so so in a sense dave was scott's comic muse and and in a way the black character is a tribute
00:34:30.960
to his brother i love that it's perfect his brother is not african-american by the way but
00:34:36.560
it's just it's just it's part of the gag you know like this is my brother dave it's it's it's almost
00:34:42.720
a wink to to his brother and yeah you know so um the brother dave but as long as they're all
00:34:49.560
identifying as black i guess it doesn't matter yeah i don't know if you know this joel but when
00:34:55.720
when scott was becoming famous there was actually a scott adams who was african-american that worked
00:35:02.600
somewhere in pleasanton and they actually were thinking that he was the one that was doing this
00:35:08.860
dilbert cartoon so that kind of implicitly goes with the whole dave character like maybe there
00:35:14.180
could be something i might have to use that yeah um there's also a scott adams who played college
00:35:19.060
football and initially if you if you googled scott adams i don't know why but for a while it would
00:35:24.920
bring up the college football player maybe because scott was so canceled that they kind of had
00:35:28.820
stopped linking the traffic about the cartoonist and political commentator scott adams and they
00:35:35.320
were linking to this football player but you know this is the problem with ai the ai slop would put
00:35:40.080
it all together so they'd be like scott adams famous cartoonist and college football star
00:35:44.760
I mean, Scott would found that hilarious, but anyway.
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I have to go because there are three meetings I'm missing right now.
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And don't think I'm not calling you to find out the juicy detail.
00:36:06.520
I will tell you some things, but that one, no, the mystery in the book, you have to read
00:36:13.820
okay all right we can do it we can do it you guys all right you guys everyone thank you
00:36:17.480
when you find out it's gonna make your mind and your heart explode at the same time oh
00:36:23.660
unbelievable yeah yeah i i can't i can't talk about it too much or i'll choke up
00:36:28.700
so yeah okay okay we got it joel thank you so so much we appreciate it and we'll see you whenever
00:36:35.980
you can pop on all right thank you so much thanks joel take care thank you bye bye well look who it
00:36:43.360
is marcella and then there were two it's me and you again sister how do we keep ending up like
00:36:51.140
this oh my goodness so all right i'm very excited for the book i mean i was already obviously but
00:36:58.060
now we have like a mystery and our hearts are gonna explode oh yeah yeah let me take that away
00:37:04.000
from the cats i like that the biography is gonna be like let's solve this mystery together and what
00:37:10.140
it be very nice what could it be all right the cats ate their kibble i told you probably
00:37:17.740
us super fans probably know but like you know like setting it up in in a mysterious way i i think it's
00:37:25.100
it'd be fun to have a biography not only be informative but also be mysterious and
00:37:33.260
suspenseful and also i know so there's something for everyone yes sean it should be out by
00:37:38.860
Christmas. The plan is to get it out in the fall so people can have it for Christmas and Christmas
00:37:43.720
gifts and all that good stuff. And by the way, if you guys, I think what we're going to do is just
00:37:48.180
run out of the Scott Adams merch. So if you want this simultaneous swaddle blanket,
00:37:55.620
once they're gone, we're not going to restock them. So love my tattoos. I don't have a tattoo.
00:38:03.340
um so i just that just caught my eye i have no tattoos um so yeah so once that merch is gone
00:38:11.160
i don't know what else is left like the beanies or a sweatshirt or t-shirt but if you did want
00:38:16.580
to grab something do it now you guys because then i think we're going to be done with that
00:38:21.320
the mugs we'll see if we're going to keep them or not okay so just grab them now um and the link
00:38:33.580
and it's also in Scott's bio on his YouTube page.
00:38:44.220
All right, so anyway, Marcella, we have some time left
00:38:46.920
and I wanted to, I wanna give a shout out to Nick Shirley
00:38:57.260
clips that are all going to go together that I want to play. So let me just make sure I have
00:39:01.920
the right one at the right time. And I wanted Owen here to read something. All right. So let's
00:39:08.540
just do this. You know what? I'm just going to do one clip. This is JD Vance. Just, I think
00:39:14.460
yesterday, let's just take a quick listen from citizens and journalists have come from people
00:39:27.260
A 22 year old kid who had the audacity to go to the people who are receiving your tax
00:39:32.380
dollars and ask questions, something, frankly, it would have been great if the national media
00:39:39.260
But I just want to say to all of you for caring about this issue, for being engaged in this
00:39:44.620
issue, for sending tips into our fraud task force.
00:39:50.300
okay so i do love nick shirley getting a shout out from the vice president of the united states
00:39:58.720
well deserved because it's true if nick shirley wasn't curious and fearless and going out there
00:40:06.000
and um exposing the fraud in every state um we wouldn't really know about it and so jay plemons
00:40:14.760
reminded me that and haven't you guys all had this thought where you're like where are all
00:40:19.900
these people, how are so many people driving nice cars? The economy is so bad. People can't afford
00:40:27.360
stuff, but so many people have nice cars, and they have nice homes, and they're wearing nice
00:40:31.420
clothes. And you're like, wait a minute, aren't we struggling along? And Jay found this clip of
00:40:37.400
Scott, and he's just a freaking genius. Let's just take a listen. I keep telling you that
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there are too many people driving nice cars to make any sense for how many nice good jobs there
00:40:52.340
are, or even how many people have inherited it from their parents or whatever. There just seem
00:40:57.600
to be way too many people who have nice houses and nice cars compared to the number of good jobs
00:41:05.200
there are in the world. And I kept thinking for a year, by the way, for years I've thought this,
00:41:12.040
I thought, what percentage of all the rich-looking people,
00:41:16.660
rich-looking meaning you have an expensive car or a nice house,
00:41:30.600
I mean, it might be as high as 50% of all rich people are criminals.
00:41:35.420
and, you know, it's these white-collar corrupt NGO money laundering situations.
00:41:44.900
Hmm. Interesting. Always thinking, right? And I mean, I think the same thing all the time and
00:41:51.880
not to, you know, listen, is it the Italian in me? Is it that I just don't trust anybody? I don't
00:41:57.200
know. But I see people like selling merch sometimes or I'm like, where'd you get that merch? Like,
00:42:03.500
where did you get that merch it's just too strange that you have an abundance of this stuff
00:42:08.940
considering the lifestyle you live so i think everybody's a criminal no matter what no one's
00:42:15.340
innocent until proven guilty marcella's like oh my god everyone's guilty in my eyes but
00:42:22.380
yeah don't you think that the fraud it's like so off the charts when you see all this fraud right
00:42:28.220
right, Marcella? You know, I disagree with Scott in regards to that, because not in regards to
00:42:34.780
what you're saying, Erica, but in a bit with Scott because of the area he lived in. My brother and
00:42:41.880
sister both live in that area of Silicon Valley, and it's a bubble. It's not like you go to Fresno,
00:42:49.620
you go to Sacramento, you go to other areas of California, and you're not going to see nice cars
00:42:56.700
all the time so it depends on the area where you're defining it and silicon valley has
00:43:04.620
very nice houses very nice cars every house is like three million dollars or more um you know
00:43:11.100
at least and if it's a nice house and so maybe he was thinking like how are all these people have
00:43:18.540
all this money you know um but technically it's all from tech tech money but um what i would say
00:43:27.820
is that there are people that have money and some of it is i don't know what word i would use but
00:43:35.580
legal fraud uh government contracts that is a big thing in california a lot of either either a lot
00:43:44.300
of people work for the government this is outside of silicon valley a lot of people work for the
00:43:49.100
government or they contract they have their own business like you know cutting trees but now we're
00:43:56.220
gonna have a contract with the school district of cutting all their trees you know so there's always
00:44:01.980
this uh back and forth in california with government and government providing these
00:44:09.980
contracts to their friends you know or you know to whoever can do the bill you know so it's kind
00:44:17.900
of like something that that i'm not sure translates to the rest of the country or but i'm sure new
00:44:25.260
jersey is similar in a way where they're using government contracts um we're very special yeah
00:44:32.540
so we really go for it i'm pulling up a clip for you real quick um okay let me just play this
00:44:38.220
here's here's a little more i really wanted to have like a nick shirley day there's so
00:44:43.080
much information um but you know i i remember when he was doing those um daycare like the
00:44:51.600
leering centers and the daycare centers and all the cars in the parking lot were like mercedes
00:44:57.620
and porsches and it's like oh what's happening here it was like a anyway let's just let's just
00:45:04.440
give Nick Shirley a little bit more attention. One second here. Yes. The governor of California
00:45:08.980
is an enemy to the people of California. He's literally working to support the fraudsters.
00:45:14.480
Meanwhile, he could be working to expose the fraud. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to
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say, okay, let's go after the guy who's exposing the fraud. Let's not go after the fraudsters.
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That is what he's doing, what he's actively doing each and every single day when he makes out these
00:45:27.780
statements and all he does is blame the people who are showing the fraud. Why doesn't he say,
00:45:32.040
hey, Nick, great video. How can we help? Right. That's what I would say. Wow. Great video. How
00:45:39.220
did you find this? Where did you go? And where are you going next so we can find somebody to
00:45:44.180
go with you? Don't you think that would be a common response? Exactly. Because these tax
00:45:47.800
dollars don't say right or left on them. They don't say Republican or Democrat. Right. Each
00:45:51.400
tax dollar is a dollar for the American people. And when they go in and steal these dollars from
00:45:56.240
us, they're not robbing just the liberal Democrat in California. They're robbing everyone.
00:46:02.040
And then the governor gets mad at the person for exposing the fraud.
00:46:06.440
So then they, they tried, I don't know, Marcella, if it, I don't know if it passed, but then
00:46:10.940
they tried to stop Nick Shirley act in California.
00:46:21.480
This is the third or fourth iteration of the law.
00:46:25.240
So the law was already in place and it was basically for harassment.
00:46:40.260
But it can be used against a Nick Shirley type,
00:46:56.700
in the medical medical industry is very nuanced and whether somebody can come up to you and ask
00:47:03.480
you questions and and harass you some of them have been harassed and i think uh i have to look
00:47:10.660
further into it it's not just like nick shirley uh act you know um it's called the stop nick
00:47:17.900
shirley act but that's not what it's actually called in the in the government that's what he
00:47:23.980
calls it okay yeah so this law has been around since the 90s um then in 2000 or something then
00:47:32.380
there was it there's different iterations and so what what uh bonta's wife i forget her first name
00:47:40.140
um did is add further uh further indications into the law of what harassment would be and so the
00:47:51.020
the the issue was that that definition could in itself be um a nick shirley type of a person
00:48:00.220
but it's not necessarily that's not what it's called at all so it's just so interesting because
00:48:06.300
it seems like well it is like everybody in every corner of this freaking country is just taking
00:48:14.460
money from people getting their palms greased. This is my opinion, from our politicians to
00:48:21.980
all these organizations. And it's coming at the expense of the constituents, which is us. And
00:48:28.860
I feel like we have no representation. And I just wanted to go to independent journalist,
00:48:34.740
Sarah Gonzalez. She's got balls of steel. I love her. Same kind of thing when she approaches Tom
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who, you know what, just watch. This is good. Senator, you've received almost $700,000 from
00:48:47.780
the illegal labor lobby. Is that why you voted against the Save America Act? Can you tell me
00:48:52.700
who the illegal labor lobby is? Yes, it's contractors, general contractors, hospitality
00:48:57.720
companies, industries, construction companies, and industries. How much do you know about the
00:49:02.780
Save America? Which Save America Act are you talking about? The one that you voted against,
00:49:06.580
sir. Okay. And so you're asking me if I voted, I was against it because- You're receiving almost
00:49:14.560
$700,000 from these lobbyists. Do you have any idea what a remarkably silly question that is?
00:49:22.000
I think it's a pretty important one. I think your constituents want to know why you're betraying
00:49:25.480
them. Let me do some math. Do you know what my election cycle, the total all-in election cycle
00:49:29.860
cost was in 2020. It's $300 million. Do you honestly believe that I would make a policy
00:49:36.560
decision based on that? I don't know why you're betraying your constituents. I'm independent.
00:49:41.480
Okay. Why are you betraying your constituents? Why are you betraying your constituents, Senator?
00:49:48.420
We just want secure elections, Senator. You're preventing us from getting that.
00:49:52.720
You're betraying America. Good luck on your job. Good luck on yours.
00:49:57.840
what a strange thing for senator tillis to say seven hundred thousand dollars is not enough
00:50:02.760
he's a sellout but not that amount because he receives 300 million if i were an honest person
00:50:07.620
and i were answering that question i would just say i'm not a sellout to anyone i don't sell out
00:50:12.180
for any amount of money but tom tillis tom tillis says he sells out but not for that amount
00:50:17.460
i love that i think that was so genius he's like good luck on your job she's like yeah good luck
00:50:24.860
on yours. So good. And the way he just talks down to her and dismisses her like, oh, who do you
00:50:32.280
work for? I'm independent. And then he's like, see, good luck on your clicks. Like, oh, really?
00:50:37.260
Well, Nick Shirley's independent. There's so Nate Friedman's independent. Some of our best
00:50:43.860
journalists are independent. So, oh, man, I mean, these people have no shame.
00:50:53.400
Yeah, like he could have just, I think Scott would talk about what she talked about.
00:51:05.360
He's like, do you have any idea what my election?
00:51:10.920
Like Scott, yes, Scott would always say, if somebody said, oh, you murdered that person
00:51:19.140
no right yeah like but instead you would say i wasn't at that place yeah at that time i was
00:51:25.580
instead of negating the actual um question you know and maybe it's not because of what she's
00:51:33.700
saying the reason that he voted against the the america the safe act but it's like why did you
00:51:39.200
vote against it that's where you would have you know if it's something really uh important why
00:51:46.040
he voted against it he would say it but no he doesn't have any um any answer to her so tom t-h-o-m
00:51:55.880
which is just annoying um i know thomas but so he's on our our watch list now and like montreal
00:52:02.840
galaxy said he first wanted to know how much she knew so he was like well let me see even how much
00:52:07.560
she knew well she knew she had her her notes and you know and then he just got snotty with her so
00:52:13.880
So Freebird says, arrest him now, a moment of truth we've got. Yeah. So what's your evidence?
00:52:21.940
Who are these contractors? Right. So it's like, you know, follow the money, you guys follow the
00:52:27.120
money. Like she showed how much he's getting from each sector and then he doesn't vote for the Save
00:52:33.800
America Act. And it's like, why? You know, why can't we have safe elections? That's all Scott
00:52:39.120
said we needed to, you know, feel secure in our country were fair elections that can be
00:52:46.860
audited to show that they were not rigged and we're not getting it. We're not getting it. And
00:52:53.280
why anyone's fighting it. Change the way you're wording it then. Like make it a one line item
00:52:58.460
issue. Stop packing it with other stuff that people are trying to throw in their note. Just
00:53:03.540
make it an election vote and then let us see who in office wants us to have fair elections and who
00:53:10.300
doesn't care. Like let them just vote on that one issue so we can see who they are. Like why can't
00:53:14.800
we have that kind of transparency and why can't every vote be a vote for one line item? I don't
00:53:20.740
get it. So they make it very confusing and that's where all this dirty money comes in. I don't know
00:53:27.300
marcella if we're ever gonna get fair elections feels kind of grim well they don't they don't
00:53:33.400
want fair elections neither side wants fair election i agree only the voters want fair
00:53:38.440
elections it seems you know there are obviously individuals in government that do want it but
00:53:44.740
for the most part it seems like that's not going to be allowed you know they're not gonna allow it
00:53:52.900
because they want, what was the phrase for Scott
00:54:06.220
So it's like in the confusion is where they are able
00:54:16.060
or they're able to get kickbacks from certain things.
00:54:20.840
you know so the more confusing you make something the the harder it is to discern what is happening
00:54:29.000
from the public so one thing that you brought up is that uh i that the reporter reminded you
00:54:35.720
of nick shirley i wish nick shirley would take on the save america act and would go down to
00:54:40.920
washington dc and go and ask them questions because they would oh they would be so afraid
00:54:46.600
of him but it needs there needs to be somebody to that degree that that keeps hounding them
00:54:54.680
oh yeah yeah truth they need they they need to answer they should be answering to the independent
00:55:00.120
journalists more than confused openly they're confused openly they should be answering more
00:55:05.960
to independent journalists than to corporate media or cable news because they're the we we
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see that the people that are independent like they're speaking for all of us like that that's
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really who's speaking for us so shame on tom tillis and um and thune doesn't care i know you guys it's
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crazy so all right listen we're gonna wrap up um tomorrow i think the home team returns we're never
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sure which way we're going but marcella and i will be here i think owen will be here too um okay you
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you guys. And we're going to do an Akira song as promised today. And Marcella, if you can stick
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around do, and if not, we get it. Okay. So let's have a closing, uh, thank you to Scott and to
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Shelly for allowing this show to continue. And we really appreciate you guys being here. It's
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always so great to see you guys every day, every morning. It's, um, it's nice that we're all
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together really um jesse kelly we are rescheduling jesse kelly he had an issue with rumble shockingly
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and um we'll get him back on the roster he's excited to come on okay guys jim courtney you're
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you're requesting the basket case theory already you must need it okay so we're gonna do it so
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thank you to scott and shelly for allowing the show to go on and um let's just do all the important
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things today be useful make good decisions and good choices and watch a scott youtube video
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today you guys go back and just pick a random one and indulge okay all right so a closing sip to our
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scott to scott let's go ah goldie it was rough goldie it was rough but we made it through okay
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basket case theory coming in by special requests from jim courtney in alaska where is it
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i don't see it i don't see it how could it up jim this is weird all right so i'm going
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pattern recognition pattern recognition coming in hot on w scott adams school
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once you realize that the humans are not logical machines pattern recognition machines
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pattern recognition machines and some pattern recognition that isn't very good
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pattern recognition is what makes you an ageist a sexist everything bad because your patterns are
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all you have. You're not really a logical person who reasons everything out. Your brain
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isn't big enough. You wouldn't have enough time. So instead you default to these little
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biases which are determined by patterns. We're pattern recognition machines. Pattern recognition
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machine. Your patterns are all you have. You're not really a logical person. Now the problem is
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many of those patterns are fake. Let's say you had met three Elbonians in your life and every
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one of them slapped you in the face with a glove. The next time you met an Elbonian you'd be like
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oh no thank you I don't want to get slapped in the face with a glove. Those last three Elbonians
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were pretty rough on me but it's only three elbonians the odds that your pattern is predictive
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probably low we fall victim to patterns but you can also use patterns to convince people of things
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if you are consistent people say oh this person's always honest so patterns are a tool but they're
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You're not really a logical person, we're pattern recognition machines, pattern recognition machines, your patterns are all you have, you're not really a logical person.
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And then, of course, understanding the brain as a visualization machine is very, very important.
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because visualization is the biggest most powerful part of your brain
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understanding the brain as a visualization machine is very very important
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because visualization is the biggest most powerful part of your brain
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obsessed. I could listen to that beat all night. All right. Now, oh, suddenly I'm feeling like a
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DJ. If I could just take over Stern's show and get that $500 million contract. Oh, you guys are the
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best. Thank you, Samar. You guys have a great, great rest of your day. I cannot wait to see
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you guys tomorrow morning right marcella you too yes yep can't wait look forward to it every day
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all right you guys love you so much have a great great day marcella have the best day
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ever kick some attorney butt out there for us argentina game watch the argentina versus england
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and we want argentina right well oh yes there's no way that england can win but then again france
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lost yesterday. So. All right, Marcella. So I'll root for Argentina. Tough day for me today,
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you guys. Oh, gosh. God bless. Root for me. I'm sending prayers your way. Thank you.
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Thoughts and prayers. Okay. Thoughts and prayers for Marcella. Let's go Argentina.
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And we'll see you guys in the morning. Take care. Bye, guys. Love you.