Real Coffee with Scott Adams - May 28, 2020


Episode 1002 Scott Adams: Today You Learn That All the News is Pretend News


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

145.84204

Word Count

8,839

Sentence Count

606

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Christina talks about fake news, a new rule, and why Target should open a new store named after the man who was killed by the police in a riot in Minnesota. Plus, fake news and more!


Transcript

00:00:00.380 Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
00:00:03.640 Bum, bum, bum, bum.
00:00:06.600 Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
00:00:10.760 Hey, everybody.
00:00:12.200 Come on in.
00:00:13.640 Gather around.
00:00:14.740 It's going to be a good one.
00:00:16.460 Oh, yeah.
00:00:17.600 We got terrible things, and funny things, and funny, terrible things.
00:00:20.980 We got fake news, real news, but mostly fake news.
00:00:25.100 And it's the interesting kind, the good kind.
00:00:28.160 The kind that makes you smarter.
00:00:31.860 Yeah, every one of you will be smarter by the time you're done.
00:00:36.760 Christina, good morning.
00:00:41.080 But before we get going, I think you know what we need to do,
00:00:46.000 and it's called the simultaneous sip,
00:00:47.300 and all you need is a cup or mug or a glass, a tank or chile,
00:00:50.260 a source, thine, a canteen, jug or flask, a vessel of any kind.
00:00:54.600 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:00:55.720 I like coffee.
00:00:58.160 And join me now for the dopamine hit of the day,
00:01:02.140 the thing that makes everything better.
00:01:05.460 It's called the simultaneous sip,
00:01:08.940 and even the pandemic will be improved with this sip.
00:01:13.880 Watch this.
00:01:14.800 Can you feel the curve flattening?
00:01:17.160 Flattening, flattening, sip.
00:01:22.900 Yep.
00:01:23.500 Yep.
00:01:23.520 Yep, I can feel the coronavirus death curve just bending a little bit there with one sip.
00:01:32.820 So here is a little tip for you.
00:01:37.800 This is a retail store tip.
00:01:41.160 You can take this one to the bank.
00:01:42.940 If you're going to start a retail store,
00:01:47.240 don't name it Target.
00:01:52.160 Well, if you're watching the news today, you're laughing.
00:01:54.620 But if you don't know what the news is today,
00:01:56.980 there's a Target store that got ravaged in, I guess, Minnesota
00:02:01.180 because they're having riots and looting over the tragic death of the man who was killed by the police there
00:02:09.260 when they put their knee on his neck.
00:02:12.320 And the funniest comment that I saw today, I just tweeted,
00:02:21.080 is from a user, FrankieFriday98.
00:02:24.780 And he suggests a new rule.
00:02:28.680 And if you want to learn a rule of humor,
00:02:32.540 this is a perfect example.
00:02:34.060 So this is a perfect tweet from FrankieFriday98.
00:02:37.540 And he says that the rule should be,
00:02:40.240 I'm paraphrasing because I'm not looking at it.
00:02:42.420 He says the new rule should be
00:02:43.920 that if police kill anybody in your town,
00:02:46.840 the local Target has to give away all of its products
00:02:49.500 because it's going to happen anyway.
00:02:55.840 And you might as well do it without getting your windows broken.
00:03:00.680 And the reason this makes me laugh
00:03:08.740 is because it's perfect joke form
00:03:11.140 because it makes sense.
00:03:13.460 At the same time, it doesn't make any sense.
00:03:16.540 So if you can put those two together,
00:03:19.260 you've got a joke.
00:03:20.300 That's what causes the laugh reflex.
00:03:22.660 Because you say to yourself,
00:03:24.240 oh, wait a minute.
00:03:25.800 If they're going to steal all the stuff of the Target anyway,
00:03:28.220 you might as well just make that the rule.
00:03:31.740 If the police kill somebody,
00:03:32.960 you just have to open Target and say,
00:03:34.420 all right, do what you want to do.
00:03:38.880 I don't know why that's so funny, but it is.
00:03:44.120 So I tweeted a great article and thread
00:03:49.880 from Andres Backhouse.
00:03:52.100 I told you you should be following him.
00:03:54.040 So look at my Twitter feed this morning.
00:03:55.980 It's toward the top.
00:03:56.680 And he tells you about the common errors
00:04:00.480 that people are making
00:04:01.760 looking at the coronavirus studies
00:04:04.840 and data from different places.
00:04:07.200 And it's a real good overview.
00:04:10.540 If you think you understand
00:04:12.380 what's going on with the data,
00:04:14.800 read all the mistakes that you can easily make.
00:04:17.940 And you might find
00:04:18.820 that we don't know anything about anything.
00:04:21.680 I think we're getting close to the point
00:04:24.000 where we can't compare anything to anything
00:04:26.880 and we just don't know anything
00:04:28.420 because none of our comparisons are valid.
00:04:32.540 There's always an apple to an orange going on.
00:04:35.560 Anyway, so that's worth looking at.
00:04:38.100 And one of the funniest stories
00:04:39.260 is that Democrats are getting panicked
00:04:41.860 that the economy might come back too quickly.
00:04:45.800 It might come back too quickly
00:04:47.960 and before the election.
00:04:50.940 Now, when I say come back,
00:04:52.380 I don't mean all the way back.
00:04:54.040 That would be much too soon
00:04:55.440 to be all the way back.
00:04:57.500 But what people are expecting
00:04:59.940 is a sharp sort of the beginning of a V
00:05:03.280 and the rest of the V shape would take,
00:05:06.480 you know, it might take a year
00:05:07.460 to get the V finished.
00:05:09.000 It could be two years.
00:05:09.660 But the first part of the V
00:05:12.240 might happen quickly,
00:05:13.600 meaning that just people go back to work
00:05:15.540 for those businesses
00:05:16.960 that didn't get closed down permanently
00:05:19.080 and things get back pretty quickly.
00:05:22.880 So the panic is that
00:05:24.440 Trump is going to be going into election day
00:05:27.820 with an economy that's,
00:05:30.980 you know, the GDP has basically doubled
00:05:32.740 because it's coming off a low base.
00:05:35.660 Now, what's funny about this
00:05:37.040 is that for the past four years,
00:05:39.260 what have Obama supporters
00:05:42.180 been saying about the economy?
00:05:45.080 Obama supporters have been making the claim
00:05:47.820 that Obama did even better than Trump
00:05:51.240 because if you look at some of the numbers
00:05:53.520 like percentages and growth and stuff,
00:05:56.000 it was better under Obama.
00:05:58.920 But what do they leave out?
00:06:01.360 They always leave out the same thing,
00:06:03.800 that Obama came into office
00:06:05.200 when the economy was at the bottom.
00:06:07.580 And when your economy is at the very bottom,
00:06:10.980 the first part of the recovery
00:06:12.580 is the easy part.
00:06:14.320 It's people who are already trained to work.
00:06:16.800 They just go back to work.
00:06:18.560 That part's easy.
00:06:19.820 So Obama presided over
00:06:21.380 what I call the easy part of the recovery,
00:06:24.560 meaning that your percentage gain
00:06:27.360 from the bottom is always going to look good.
00:06:29.140 And so illegitimately,
00:06:32.520 sort of going back to Andrea's point
00:06:34.840 about how we're not good about analyzing data,
00:06:38.480 so people have illegitimately said,
00:06:41.380 but hey, you say Trump's doing good for the economy?
00:06:44.020 Look at Obama's numbers.
00:06:45.220 They're better.
00:06:46.120 But of course, that's an apple to an orange
00:06:48.140 because how quickly you recover from a bottom
00:06:51.840 should be impressive.
00:06:53.560 How much you can add to the top
00:06:56.620 is a lot harder.
00:06:59.560 And Trump did that.
00:07:01.160 So Trump was adding to a fairly strong economy.
00:07:04.680 That's the hard part.
00:07:06.060 That's the hardest part to get right.
00:07:08.640 And I'm not even sure
00:07:09.980 if you reverse the two presidents,
00:07:11.780 you had them serve each other's terms.
00:07:14.640 I don't know if that would have worked.
00:07:16.920 It felt like they were both
00:07:18.360 sort of suited for their time.
00:07:21.200 But anyway, that's another story.
00:07:22.160 The point is that we may have
00:07:25.840 an impressive-looking semi-recovery by November,
00:07:31.060 and that looks like bad news for Democrats.
00:07:34.260 And the fact that that would look like bad news
00:07:36.540 is just, well, it's a head shaker.
00:07:40.860 All right.
00:07:41.460 Are you ready to have your brain
00:07:43.860 spinning in your skull?
00:07:48.140 I'm going to give you a simple suggestion
00:07:50.620 that if I do it right
00:07:52.880 will make you say something like,
00:07:56.680 uh, why didn't anybody suggest that before?
00:08:00.740 So that's my challenge.
00:08:02.220 My challenge is that as soon as you hear this suggestion,
00:08:04.840 you're going to say,
00:08:06.420 oh my goodness,
00:08:08.560 why didn't anybody say this before?
00:08:11.900 Now, this is not my original suggestion.
00:08:14.080 This is just something I saw on Twitter
00:08:16.340 from a Twitter user who made this suggestion.
00:08:20.040 And when I read it,
00:08:21.260 I had the feeling that you're going to have in a minute,
00:08:23.260 which is,
00:08:24.300 uh, why is that so smart?
00:08:27.300 And yet nobody has said this yet.
00:08:29.080 And it goes like this.
00:08:30.860 We're talking about mail-in ballots,
00:08:32.760 and we're talking about the dangers of voting
00:08:35.000 because of coronavirus.
00:08:35.900 Here's the suggestion.
00:08:38.400 You ready?
00:08:40.260 Have election day
00:08:41.720 be election week.
00:08:45.280 And you just spread it out.
00:08:47.760 Just election week.
00:08:49.860 Because just about everybody
00:08:51.620 can get to the election,
00:08:53.140 the election place within a week.
00:08:56.780 Now, maybe you would spread it out
00:08:58.280 by, you know,
00:08:59.020 the last,
00:08:59.940 the letter in your last name or something.
00:09:02.880 So I'm going to watch your comments.
00:09:05.580 But right?
00:09:06.660 I'm watching the comments.
00:09:08.140 Oh my goodness,
00:09:08.900 why didn't anyone say this before?
00:09:11.520 Somebody says no,
00:09:12.600 but without a reason.
00:09:13.940 More time to cheat?
00:09:16.280 More time to cheat?
00:09:17.700 What's that mean?
00:09:19.360 Great idea.
00:09:20.560 I said this a month ago.
00:09:22.460 Somebody says.
00:09:23.480 Not new.
00:09:24.180 Been saying that for years.
00:09:25.920 Somebody says I said that years ago.
00:09:27.880 Well,
00:09:28.140 I'll bet a lot of individuals have said it.
00:09:30.640 But why is it not
00:09:32.040 in the national conversation?
00:09:34.240 Have you seen it on the news?
00:09:37.440 Now,
00:09:38.080 if you've said this
00:09:39.020 in past years,
00:09:41.000 you are probably,
00:09:42.580 you know,
00:09:43.480 talking about it
00:09:44.320 with less urgency.
00:09:46.060 At the moment,
00:09:47.020 we have a medical reason.
00:09:48.740 There's a completely valid,
00:09:51.200 completely obvious,
00:09:52.480 completely agreed upon
00:09:53.780 medical reason.
00:09:56.280 Somebody says they do that
00:09:57.480 in Florida.
00:09:58.540 Not aware of that.
00:09:59.420 maybe for local elections.
00:10:02.940 Somebody says
00:10:03.640 we already have that
00:10:04.320 for early voting.
00:10:05.400 Well,
00:10:05.600 anyway,
00:10:06.360 the larger point of it is,
00:10:08.140 why was this not part
00:10:09.440 of the national conversation?
00:10:13.340 Who exactly would be opposed
00:10:15.820 to spreading election day
00:10:17.960 to a week
00:10:18.640 so everybody's safer?
00:10:20.380 I just don't see
00:10:21.080 how anybody would oppose that.
00:10:23.280 All right.
00:10:25.260 That kind of messes
00:10:26.820 with your head,
00:10:27.380 doesn't it?
00:10:27.820 Just a little bit
00:10:29.220 because you say to yourself,
00:10:30.720 really?
00:10:31.700 We got all the way to here
00:10:33.040 and that's the first time
00:10:34.620 I've heard that?
00:10:36.060 Because that's how I felt
00:10:37.300 when I heard it the first time.
00:10:38.420 It's like,
00:10:38.640 what?
00:10:40.100 All right.
00:10:41.680 So,
00:10:42.220 we have another one
00:10:43.060 of those days
00:10:43.740 where all of our biggest
00:10:45.100 news stories
00:10:45.840 have something in common.
00:10:48.000 They didn't happen.
00:10:49.040 All the news,
00:10:52.440 pretty much fake news
00:10:53.740 this week.
00:10:54.620 Now,
00:10:54.900 when I say it's all fake news,
00:10:56.260 I mean the interpretations
00:10:57.500 of it.
00:10:58.540 It is true
00:10:59.420 that a target
00:11:00.600 is on fire
00:11:01.460 somewhere in Minnesota.
00:11:03.980 So,
00:11:04.360 the facts of
00:11:05.320 this is on fire,
00:11:07.200 this person died,
00:11:09.140 those are all facts.
00:11:10.860 But the way
00:11:11.660 we're interpreting it,
00:11:13.300 just ridiculous.
00:11:14.020 For example,
00:11:16.840 there's the
00:11:17.880 Joe Scarborough story
00:11:20.180 about
00:11:21.520 the president's
00:11:23.480 allegations
00:11:24.020 that Joe Scarborough
00:11:25.740 killed an employee.
00:11:28.180 Now,
00:11:29.180 I rush to say
00:11:30.700 there's no evidence
00:11:32.180 that Joe Scarborough
00:11:33.240 ever killed an employee.
00:11:35.980 Which,
00:11:36.940 I can't stop laughing
00:11:38.200 when I think about it
00:11:39.160 because it's so audacious.
00:11:40.920 It's so ridiculous.
00:11:42.520 And,
00:11:43.160 you know the president
00:11:44.000 doesn't believe it.
00:11:45.540 Of course he doesn't
00:11:46.340 believe it.
00:11:47.020 And he doesn't say
00:11:48.000 he believes it.
00:11:49.020 He simply passes
00:11:50.160 on the rumor,
00:11:51.840 make sure you've heard it.
00:11:54.960 So,
00:11:55.720 the fact that
00:11:57.060 anybody takes
00:11:58.080 this seriously
00:11:59.040 is the funny part
00:12:00.640 of the story.
00:12:01.580 The funny part
00:12:02.540 of the story
00:12:03.100 is that the media
00:12:04.460 even reports on it.
00:12:06.580 I mean,
00:12:06.840 that should have been
00:12:08.360 one or two tweets
00:12:10.480 by the president
00:12:11.240 in which the media
00:12:12.700 should have looked at
00:12:13.520 and said,
00:12:14.000 oh,
00:12:14.260 that's funny.
00:12:14.940 He doesn't mean that.
00:12:16.240 And just ignore it.
00:12:17.720 They could have
00:12:18.180 just ignored it
00:12:19.020 when it became
00:12:19.800 the biggest thing
00:12:21.940 in the country.
00:12:22.920 Which,
00:12:23.460 of course,
00:12:23.820 perfectly plays
00:12:24.660 into
00:12:25.040 Trump's
00:12:27.480 strategy,
00:12:28.860 I would assume,
00:12:29.740 which is simply
00:12:30.540 to put some
00:12:31.500 pressure on
00:12:32.400 Joe Scarborough.
00:12:35.480 I can't stop
00:12:36.600 laughing at that one.
00:12:37.380 All right,
00:12:37.600 so the Scarborough thing
00:12:38.600 is based on something
00:12:39.580 that just didn't happen.
00:12:40.880 All right,
00:12:42.220 how about another one?
00:12:43.560 How about all of the news
00:12:44.900 that was yesterday
00:12:46.280 and last night
00:12:47.020 and today
00:12:47.580 is going to be
00:12:48.600 all about race wars?
00:12:50.620 There's like all this
00:12:51.540 racial tension.
00:12:53.540 Is that what's happening?
00:12:56.800 Do you feel that?
00:12:58.740 Do you feel that
00:12:59.540 the story about,
00:13:00.780 I can't remember
00:13:01.300 his name,
00:13:02.160 George?
00:13:03.100 Is that his last name?
00:13:03.800 The African-American man
00:13:06.540 who was killed
00:13:06.940 by the police officer
00:13:07.840 in Minnesota
00:13:08.320 recently.
00:13:11.560 Now,
00:13:12.080 of course,
00:13:12.340 that happened
00:13:12.980 and then
00:13:14.700 the media
00:13:15.320 and social media
00:13:16.580 have combined
00:13:17.900 to try to turn this
00:13:19.240 into a race story.
00:13:20.920 Do you know
00:13:21.500 what this isn't?
00:13:23.660 This is so not
00:13:24.820 a race story.
00:13:26.300 This is the least
00:13:27.640 racial story
00:13:29.240 of any story
00:13:30.460 that's ever been told.
00:13:32.220 Why?
00:13:32.660 Because there's nobody
00:13:34.000 on the other side of it.
00:13:35.760 It's a complete
00:13:36.520 fake story.
00:13:38.540 There are no people
00:13:39.400 who think
00:13:39.900 that the police officer
00:13:42.400 acted appropriately.
00:13:43.860 There's nobody
00:13:44.780 in the world
00:13:45.380 who thinks
00:13:46.540 that was okay.
00:13:47.780 I mean,
00:13:48.060 if you've actually
00:13:48.580 watched the video,
00:13:49.660 nobody thinks
00:13:50.280 that was okay.
00:13:51.640 Now,
00:13:52.340 there are some people
00:13:53.220 who might be saying,
00:13:54.380 I've seen the video
00:13:55.400 of the initial stop.
00:13:57.240 I've seen the video
00:13:58.220 of where the knee
00:14:00.240 was on the neck.
00:14:01.620 But there's still
00:14:02.160 that there's
00:14:03.140 sort of a gap
00:14:03.860 missing there,
00:14:04.620 which is what happened
00:14:05.500 just before it happened.
00:14:06.920 Now,
00:14:07.120 maybe you're waiting
00:14:07.740 to get the full story,
00:14:09.400 but I'm not sure
00:14:10.720 that's going to tell you
00:14:11.540 something that you
00:14:12.640 need to know
00:14:13.320 because the part
00:14:15.560 you watched
00:14:16.020 was bad enough.
00:14:18.520 But the point is,
00:14:20.380 there's no disagreement
00:14:22.780 on this story.
00:14:24.320 If anybody
00:14:24.920 is trying to
00:14:25.720 sell you
00:14:26.920 that black citizens
00:14:29.500 are on one side
00:14:30.540 and white citizens
00:14:32.140 are on the other
00:14:32.800 side of the story,
00:14:33.520 it's just not true.
00:14:35.280 Everybody's on
00:14:35.940 the same side.
00:14:37.660 Now,
00:14:38.340 let me tell you
00:14:39.040 how you know
00:14:39.900 that this is
00:14:41.060 all political
00:14:41.960 and not
00:14:43.540 actually social.
00:14:46.740 The difference
00:14:47.620 being
00:14:48.300 that if it were
00:14:49.060 a social problem
00:14:50.340 that people
00:14:50.860 were trying
00:14:51.320 to really solve,
00:14:52.620 like they actually
00:14:53.320 wanted a solution,
00:14:54.200 they would do it
00:14:55.620 a different way.
00:14:56.880 But if it's
00:14:57.600 a political problem,
00:14:58.820 you don't necessarily
00:14:59.840 want it solved
00:15:00.820 because you want
00:15:01.640 the issue
00:15:02.060 as much as
00:15:02.700 you could use it.
00:15:05.080 So here is
00:15:06.180 my analysis
00:15:06.860 of why you know
00:15:08.040 that this is not
00:15:08.900 a real issue,
00:15:10.780 meaning that people
00:15:11.760 are not actually
00:15:12.620 trying to solve it,
00:15:14.080 they're using it
00:15:15.000 as a political club.
00:15:16.860 Here's how.
00:15:17.960 Because the way
00:15:18.660 you would solve
00:15:19.720 this police,
00:15:21.960 what seems to be
00:15:23.180 a problem of
00:15:23.900 at least sometimes,
00:15:25.160 police abusing
00:15:26.700 the people
00:15:27.480 they stop.
00:15:28.120 How would you
00:15:28.720 best solve that?
00:15:30.140 If you just
00:15:30.800 wanted to solve it
00:15:31.920 and you didn't
00:15:33.320 want to make it
00:15:33.820 a political thing,
00:15:34.860 how would you do it?
00:15:36.020 Let me answer
00:15:36.640 the question.
00:15:37.780 You would do it
00:15:38.660 the same way
00:15:39.260 that AIDS activists
00:15:40.840 got straight people
00:15:43.840 to care about AIDS.
00:15:45.880 They would tell them
00:15:46.880 it's their problem too.
00:15:48.980 Right?
00:15:49.900 The genius thing
00:15:51.600 that the LGBTQ
00:15:53.300 community,
00:15:55.040 mostly gay men
00:15:56.840 I think,
00:15:57.840 did brilliantly
00:16:00.060 was they
00:16:01.660 made everybody
00:16:02.720 understand
00:16:03.440 that this wasn't
00:16:04.300 a gay problem.
00:16:05.700 The AIDS
00:16:06.260 can, you know,
00:16:07.080 you can get it
00:16:07.640 in a variety of ways
00:16:08.480 and therefore
00:16:09.420 it's everybody's problem.
00:16:11.340 Once you've
00:16:12.300 redefined it
00:16:13.060 as everyone's problem,
00:16:14.920 what does
00:16:15.840 everyone do?
00:16:17.740 Well then everyone
00:16:18.500 says,
00:16:18.820 how do we solve
00:16:19.380 the problem?
00:16:20.480 You get everyone
00:16:21.200 on board.
00:16:21.960 You get more funding,
00:16:23.340 you get more attention,
00:16:24.320 you get more everything.
00:16:25.580 You just got to get
00:16:26.280 everybody on board.
00:16:28.080 It was the
00:16:28.660 most brilliant part
00:16:30.520 of the AIDS strategy
00:16:32.480 is to make sure
00:16:33.460 that the country
00:16:34.000 didn't think
00:16:34.500 it was limited
00:16:35.100 to one group
00:16:35.820 and then you
00:16:36.760 could solve it.
00:16:37.880 What would
00:16:38.420 the black community
00:16:39.300 do if they wanted
00:16:40.220 to solve
00:16:40.940 what they see
00:16:41.780 as,
00:16:43.240 and I don't have
00:16:44.120 any data
00:16:44.660 to confirm
00:16:45.720 or disconfirm,
00:16:46.520 but what they
00:16:47.860 would see
00:16:48.200 as the police
00:16:49.400 acting too roughly.
00:16:51.400 What would
00:16:51.700 be the best
00:16:52.460 way to solve it?
00:16:54.600 Simple.
00:16:55.880 Give us statistics
00:16:56.960 about how many
00:16:57.600 white people
00:16:58.080 are getting killed
00:16:58.580 by police.
00:17:00.480 Right?
00:17:01.520 If you told me,
00:17:03.540 hey, by the way,
00:17:04.280 this isn't even
00:17:05.180 a racial problem,
00:17:06.460 no matter who
00:17:07.160 gets stopped
00:17:07.620 by the police,
00:17:08.860 some number
00:17:09.480 of them
00:17:09.720 are getting killed
00:17:10.440 for not doing
00:17:11.980 much that deserve
00:17:12.760 to get killed.
00:17:13.380 why don't
00:17:15.140 you just
00:17:15.420 make it
00:17:15.700 a people
00:17:16.260 problem?
00:17:17.660 Just make it
00:17:18.180 a people
00:17:18.500 problem.
00:17:19.260 I'll help.
00:17:20.200 Because as soon
00:17:20.940 as you make
00:17:21.280 it a people
00:17:21.740 problem,
00:17:22.400 then you start
00:17:22.920 talking about
00:17:23.620 solutions.
00:17:24.880 You say,
00:17:25.300 okay,
00:17:25.880 is it a problem
00:17:26.680 that we don't
00:17:27.140 have enough
00:17:27.720 body cams?
00:17:29.860 So maybe we
00:17:30.800 could be part
00:17:31.320 of the solution
00:17:31.980 of helping
00:17:33.120 local police
00:17:33.920 fund more
00:17:34.740 body cams.
00:17:36.400 I wouldn't
00:17:37.180 oppose that.
00:17:38.680 Would you?
00:17:39.720 If black people
00:17:41.080 want to solve
00:17:41.860 this,
00:17:42.260 just tell
00:17:43.380 white people
00:17:44.220 it's their
00:17:44.620 problem too.
00:17:45.940 Because it is.
00:17:47.360 You don't
00:17:47.860 think any
00:17:48.280 white people
00:17:48.780 have been
00:17:49.020 killed by
00:17:49.420 police?
00:17:50.440 I'm sure
00:17:50.840 they have.
00:17:52.040 And I'm
00:17:52.360 sure that
00:17:52.680 there are
00:17:52.940 plenty of
00:17:53.500 cases where
00:17:54.100 those families
00:17:55.220 of the white
00:17:55.680 people said,
00:17:56.360 I don't
00:17:56.560 think this
00:17:57.000 was fair.
00:17:58.380 So as soon
00:17:59.680 as you make
00:18:00.060 it a racial
00:18:00.500 problem,
00:18:01.000 you're really
00:18:01.360 signaling that
00:18:02.540 you're not
00:18:02.800 trying to
00:18:03.160 solve the
00:18:03.660 problem.
00:18:05.180 You're trying
00:18:05.800 to have a
00:18:06.200 political wedge.
00:18:07.740 If you want
00:18:08.520 to solve
00:18:08.860 the problem,
00:18:10.360 we'll help.
00:18:12.260 I've
00:18:14.200 literally
00:18:14.620 offered to
00:18:15.260 help publicly
00:18:15.940 on this
00:18:16.440 very problem.
00:18:17.420 Not the
00:18:18.080 Minnesota one,
00:18:18.820 but the
00:18:19.120 police problem.
00:18:20.540 Way back
00:18:20.880 when Kaepernick
00:18:21.580 was making
00:18:22.140 his war
00:18:24.960 public
00:18:25.340 protests,
00:18:26.060 I was
00:18:26.440 saying,
00:18:26.880 well,
00:18:27.020 how can I
00:18:27.360 help?
00:18:29.040 Why don't we
00:18:29.960 just treat it
00:18:30.440 like it's a
00:18:31.040 problem that
00:18:32.460 has maybe a
00:18:33.300 clever solution?
00:18:34.900 I'll help.
00:18:35.420 So if the
00:18:38.220 black citizens
00:18:39.280 of this
00:18:39.800 country want
00:18:40.700 everybody else
00:18:43.160 to help
00:18:43.640 them on
00:18:44.220 this topic,
00:18:45.520 I think
00:18:46.660 we're all
00:18:47.060 ready to
00:18:47.440 do it.
00:18:48.960 Who exactly
00:18:50.040 is on the
00:18:50.420 other side?
00:18:51.320 So it's a
00:18:51.660 big old
00:18:52.060 fake story
00:18:54.160 that there's
00:18:54.660 racial tension
00:18:57.560 over this.
00:18:58.960 there is
00:19:00.480 racial tension,
00:19:01.680 but it's
00:19:02.740 illegitimate.
00:19:04.280 It's
00:19:04.920 illegitimate
00:19:05.540 because we're
00:19:06.920 all on the
00:19:07.540 same side
00:19:08.360 on this
00:19:09.540 story.
00:19:10.220 We're all
00:19:11.160 on the
00:19:11.460 same side.
00:19:12.240 Let's not
00:19:12.600 pretend we're
00:19:13.200 not.
00:19:14.100 Now, as to
00:19:14.980 the looting
00:19:15.940 and the
00:19:17.060 rioting and
00:19:17.840 stuff, I
00:19:19.200 don't think
00:19:19.660 you can
00:19:20.140 really associate
00:19:22.040 that with
00:19:22.860 the event.
00:19:26.060 Because the
00:19:27.160 tragic event
00:19:28.300 can act as
00:19:29.640 a trigger.
00:19:30.420 It's like a
00:19:30.820 fake because.
00:19:32.160 But I think
00:19:32.600 it had a lot
00:19:33.120 to do with
00:19:33.800 people wanted
00:19:34.860 a television.
00:19:36.980 There was no
00:19:37.680 police there.
00:19:39.080 It was a
00:19:39.420 warm summer
00:19:40.000 night.
00:19:41.180 Tensions are
00:19:41.820 high anyway
00:19:42.600 because of
00:19:43.160 the lockdown.
00:19:44.940 It was just
00:19:45.540 a bunch of
00:19:46.000 things came
00:19:46.500 together and
00:19:47.240 there was
00:19:47.500 this fake
00:19:48.060 spark.
00:19:49.920 It's like,
00:19:50.200 oh, let's
00:19:50.580 use this as
00:19:52.020 our excuse
00:19:52.620 to get some
00:19:53.120 big TVs.
00:19:54.540 So I would
00:19:55.520 treat the
00:19:56.280 rioting and
00:19:57.840 the looting
00:19:58.240 just as
00:19:58.740 crime,
00:20:00.180 just ordinary
00:20:00.820 crime.
00:20:01.560 I just
00:20:02.160 don't think
00:20:02.560 you should
00:20:02.960 associate it
00:20:04.140 with.
00:20:05.960 Anyway, have
00:20:07.140 you seen all
00:20:07.580 the videos of
00:20:08.280 the actual
00:20:08.680 looting?
00:20:09.540 I can't
00:20:10.040 stop watching
00:20:10.620 them.
00:20:11.320 So there
00:20:11.580 are a lot
00:20:11.860 of camera
00:20:13.620 phone types
00:20:15.620 of video.
00:20:18.180 And the
00:20:18.420 funniest one
00:20:19.080 is there's
00:20:20.860 a whole bunch
00:20:23.000 of people
00:20:23.440 with masks
00:20:24.680 on to which
00:20:26.200 I say to
00:20:26.640 myself,
00:20:27.220 okay,
00:20:27.980 well,
00:20:28.260 those are
00:20:28.520 the people
00:20:29.820 who know
00:20:30.080 how to do
00:20:30.460 some looting.
00:20:31.700 They're looting
00:20:32.760 right.
00:20:33.700 But there's
00:20:34.080 one video
00:20:34.840 where you can
00:20:36.000 see all the
00:20:36.440 looters in the
00:20:36.960 background.
00:20:37.500 Most of them
00:20:37.900 are masked
00:20:38.540 and they have
00:20:39.320 hoods on and
00:20:39.920 stuff.
00:20:40.660 And you see
00:20:41.020 this one white
00:20:42.700 woman running
00:20:43.680 by with an
00:20:44.280 ugly lamp
00:20:45.000 from Target.
00:20:46.080 And because
00:20:48.040 there aren't
00:20:48.660 that many
00:20:49.380 videos,
00:20:50.520 this one is
00:20:51.260 kind of
00:20:51.580 prominent.
00:20:52.100 She's not
00:20:52.500 wearing a
00:20:53.140 mask.
00:20:54.720 So there's
00:20:56.660 a hundred
00:20:57.000 percent chance
00:20:57.740 that she's
00:20:58.120 being recognized
00:20:58.780 by everybody
00:20:59.380 that she knows
00:21:00.100 who saw
00:21:00.500 this video.
00:21:01.560 And she's
00:21:01.840 there running
00:21:02.660 out of the
00:21:02.960 store looting.
00:21:04.220 But Ellie
00:21:05.580 Alexander said
00:21:06.560 the funniest
00:21:07.000 thing that I've
00:21:07.620 been laughing
00:21:08.740 about for a
00:21:09.460 day.
00:21:11.100 And she
00:21:11.680 doesn't even
00:21:12.160 have a loot
00:21:12.760 right.
00:21:13.060 She's a
00:21:16.560 terrible looter.
00:21:17.480 She can't
00:21:17.820 get her
00:21:18.040 looting right.
00:21:20.800 Which is so
00:21:21.620 true.
00:21:22.660 It's like I'd
00:21:23.180 like to think
00:21:23.680 that if I were
00:21:24.220 in that
00:21:24.440 situation,
00:21:25.780 I could loot
00:21:27.680 a little more
00:21:28.260 effectively than
00:21:29.080 she's looting.
00:21:30.580 Her looting
00:21:31.080 needs a lot
00:21:31.580 of work.
00:21:33.540 All right.
00:21:34.460 What else is
00:21:35.280 a fake story?
00:21:36.420 Okay, here's
00:21:36.860 another one.
00:21:39.500 Trump's
00:21:39.940 ignoring the
00:21:40.560 Constitution.
00:21:42.000 So he's
00:21:42.320 talking about
00:21:42.900 doing an
00:21:44.100 executive order
00:21:45.000 about social
00:21:48.760 media.
00:21:49.400 And maybe
00:21:49.860 we know
00:21:51.000 what that
00:21:51.600 is by now,
00:21:52.480 but I haven't
00:21:52.920 seen any
00:21:53.300 details.
00:21:54.480 So we don't
00:21:55.240 know what
00:21:55.500 that will
00:21:55.780 look like.
00:21:56.960 But of
00:21:57.820 course the
00:21:58.180 critics are
00:21:58.680 saying that
00:21:59.100 Trump is
00:21:59.640 ignoring the
00:22:01.320 Constitution,
00:22:02.900 being a
00:22:03.280 dictator,
00:22:04.880 which of
00:22:05.500 course is a
00:22:06.020 completely false
00:22:06.840 story.
00:22:08.080 Because there
00:22:08.960 isn't the
00:22:09.420 slightest chance
00:22:10.360 that whatever
00:22:11.880 Trump does
00:22:12.700 with this
00:22:13.100 executive order,
00:22:14.500 there isn't
00:22:14.980 the slightest
00:22:15.540 chance that
00:22:17.320 it won't be
00:22:17.880 tested against
00:22:18.740 all of our
00:22:19.300 legal and
00:22:20.400 constitutional
00:22:21.140 standards.
00:22:22.280 Because of
00:22:22.800 course it
00:22:23.140 will.
00:22:23.800 And he's
00:22:24.200 not going to
00:22:24.580 stop it.
00:22:25.600 He'll fight
00:22:26.260 for his
00:22:26.820 side.
00:22:28.080 He might
00:22:28.460 take it to
00:22:29.020 court.
00:22:29.640 Maybe it
00:22:30.380 becomes a
00:22:30.900 Supreme Court
00:22:32.240 thing.
00:22:33.120 But in the
00:22:33.620 end, the one
00:22:34.480 thing I can
00:22:35.040 guarantee you
00:22:35.900 is that
00:22:37.160 whichever way
00:22:37.940 the courts
00:22:38.640 and the
00:22:39.020 law go,
00:22:40.580 so too
00:22:41.320 will the
00:22:41.940 Trump
00:22:42.200 administration
00:22:42.700 go.
00:22:43.700 So it's
00:22:44.220 a complete
00:22:44.640 fake news
00:22:45.520 that the
00:22:46.120 president is
00:22:46.580 looking to
00:22:47.000 violate the
00:22:47.560 Constitution,
00:22:48.740 when indeed
00:22:49.280 he's doing
00:22:49.720 exactly the
00:22:50.860 opposite,
00:22:51.960 which is
00:22:52.360 trying to
00:22:52.820 work within
00:22:53.460 it.
00:22:54.680 He might
00:22:55.540 poke every
00:22:56.280 door and
00:22:56.880 push every
00:22:57.480 button,
00:22:58.340 and some
00:22:58.720 of them
00:22:58.920 might not
00:22:59.280 work,
00:22:59.920 but he's
00:23:00.560 very clearly
00:23:01.340 trying to
00:23:01.900 find solutions
00:23:02.720 within the
00:23:03.320 framework of the
00:23:04.080 Constitution and
00:23:05.100 our legal
00:23:05.500 system.
00:23:06.600 And I
00:23:07.040 don't know
00:23:07.300 how you
00:23:07.640 could imagine
00:23:08.600 in your
00:23:10.020 imaginary world
00:23:11.680 that anything
00:23:12.440 else is
00:23:13.000 happening.
00:23:13.820 There isn't
00:23:14.200 any chance
00:23:15.000 that this is
00:23:15.700 going to
00:23:15.900 become some
00:23:16.380 kind of
00:23:17.280 extra
00:23:17.760 constitutional
00:23:18.540 thing.
00:23:19.540 No chance.
00:23:21.380 I mean,
00:23:21.720 really,
00:23:22.060 there's zero
00:23:22.460 chance.
00:23:23.680 But people
00:23:24.280 are treating
00:23:24.780 that like,
00:23:25.360 yeah,
00:23:26.080 that's
00:23:26.260 happening.
00:23:27.240 That's
00:23:27.580 happening.
00:23:28.020 He's
00:23:28.220 ignoring the
00:23:28.760 Constitution.
00:23:30.200 All right.
00:23:31.560 The other
00:23:32.160 big story,
00:23:32.900 of course,
00:23:33.540 is the
00:23:34.500 Twitter
00:23:34.800 fact-checking,
00:23:36.220 which,
00:23:36.780 as of
00:23:37.140 today,
00:23:37.600 my
00:23:37.780 understanding
00:23:38.340 is that's
00:23:38.880 all fake
00:23:39.340 news as
00:23:40.060 well.
00:23:41.080 Fake
00:23:41.420 news,
00:23:41.940 not in
00:23:42.460 the sense
00:23:42.860 that there
00:23:43.460 was not
00:23:44.760 a fact-check
00:23:46.100 banner put
00:23:47.360 on the
00:23:47.640 president's
00:23:48.180 tweet.
00:23:48.960 That part's
00:23:49.480 true.
00:23:50.580 It's,
00:23:51.040 of course,
00:23:51.360 the interpretation
00:23:52.260 that's wrong.
00:23:53.840 And here's
00:23:54.740 my current
00:23:55.300 understanding.
00:23:56.540 I think
00:23:57.160 this might
00:23:57.620 evolve,
00:23:59.180 but here's
00:23:59.520 my current
00:24:00.100 understanding
00:24:00.760 of what
00:24:02.600 Twitter did
00:24:03.840 and what
00:24:04.600 Jack Dorsey
00:24:05.660 is saying
00:24:06.220 about it,
00:24:07.160 which is
00:24:08.080 completely
00:24:08.520 different than
00:24:09.100 what the
00:24:09.440 news is
00:24:09.880 reporting.
00:24:11.280 Okay?
00:24:11.940 So I
00:24:12.600 believe that
00:24:13.040 everything you've
00:24:13.740 heard about
00:24:14.940 why Twitter
00:24:15.900 did what it
00:24:16.940 did is
00:24:18.140 fake news.
00:24:19.600 I think it's
00:24:20.060 fake news on
00:24:20.720 Fox News and
00:24:21.620 it's fake news
00:24:22.260 on CNN.
00:24:23.460 I think it's
00:24:23.820 just all fake
00:24:24.340 news.
00:24:25.340 Because here's
00:24:26.140 what Twitter
00:24:26.700 was attempting
00:24:28.180 to do and
00:24:29.660 how they
00:24:29.960 explain it.
00:24:31.480 And then
00:24:31.940 compare that
00:24:32.620 to how the
00:24:33.060 news has
00:24:33.500 handled it.
00:24:34.680 All right?
00:24:35.060 So the
00:24:35.660 news has
00:24:36.180 largely handled
00:24:37.000 it as on
00:24:37.940 CNN they're
00:24:38.660 saying the
00:24:39.840 president made
00:24:40.560 some claims
00:24:41.180 about mailing
00:24:44.220 votes and
00:24:45.340 they were
00:24:45.660 fake.
00:24:46.700 So Twitter
00:24:47.660 called it
00:24:48.120 down and
00:24:48.960 then pointed
00:24:49.440 to accurate
00:24:50.120 information.
00:24:51.340 So that's
00:24:51.600 what CNN
00:24:52.040 is.
00:24:52.580 That's sort
00:24:53.220 of their
00:24:53.460 take on
00:24:53.900 it.
00:24:55.440 That's
00:24:56.020 fake news.
00:24:56.600 Fox's
00:24:58.320 take on
00:24:58.860 it is
00:24:59.560 that it's
00:25:00.220 just more
00:25:00.820 of anti-conservative
00:25:03.580 bias and
00:25:04.780 why are they
00:25:05.220 picking on
00:25:05.600 the president
00:25:06.100 when there's
00:25:06.660 so many other
00:25:07.200 fake things
00:25:07.800 to do.
00:25:08.720 So it's
00:25:08.960 obviously just
00:25:09.800 the beginning
00:25:10.260 of what will
00:25:10.980 be more
00:25:11.580 bias.
00:25:12.960 That I
00:25:13.860 believe also
00:25:14.380 is fake
00:25:14.860 news.
00:25:15.820 So I
00:25:16.240 think the
00:25:16.560 way it's
00:25:16.900 being handled
00:25:17.420 on both
00:25:18.060 the left
00:25:18.500 and the
00:25:18.800 right are
00:25:19.180 completely
00:25:19.520 different.
00:25:20.840 But they're
00:25:21.520 both completely
00:25:22.640 fake news.
00:25:24.320 Here's what
00:25:24.960 I think is
00:25:26.000 the real
00:25:26.320 story.
00:25:27.800 And I'll
00:25:28.520 give this
00:25:29.500 an 80%
00:25:30.380 confidence
00:25:30.940 level.
00:25:32.460 Because I
00:25:33.000 think you
00:25:33.280 should know
00:25:34.480 that there's
00:25:35.460 a solid
00:25:35.880 20% chance
00:25:37.300 that this
00:25:37.940 will all
00:25:38.220 be different
00:25:38.620 by tomorrow.
00:25:39.740 And tomorrow
00:25:40.160 I'll be
00:25:40.540 telling you,
00:25:40.920 I got it
00:25:41.380 all wrong.
00:25:42.180 Now I
00:25:42.620 know something
00:25:43.040 more.
00:25:43.920 But my
00:25:44.360 current
00:25:44.640 understanding
00:25:45.160 is this.
00:25:45.800 This is
00:25:46.180 based on
00:25:47.500 Jack Dorsey's
00:25:49.400 tweets on
00:25:50.200 it.
00:25:51.360 And I
00:25:52.320 want to
00:25:52.740 read them
00:25:53.260 because you
00:25:53.760 need to get
00:25:54.200 his exact
00:25:54.860 wording to
00:25:55.900 know what
00:25:56.200 I'm
00:25:56.340 talking
00:25:56.580 about.
00:25:59.940 So first
00:26:03.260 of all,
00:26:03.580 Jack said,
00:26:04.120 fact check
00:26:04.580 that there
00:26:04.960 is someone
00:26:05.560 ultimately
00:26:06.120 accountable for
00:26:07.060 our actions
00:26:07.580 as a company
00:26:08.320 and that's
00:26:09.300 me.
00:26:10.120 So Jack
00:26:10.680 is taking
00:26:11.080 all
00:26:11.240 responsibility
00:26:11.780 and he
00:26:12.240 says,
00:26:12.640 please leave
00:26:13.640 our employees
00:26:14.240 out of this
00:26:14.840 because as
00:26:15.700 you know,
00:26:16.340 a specific
00:26:16.900 employee was
00:26:18.400 sort of in
00:26:19.520 social media
00:26:20.180 and on the
00:26:21.200 news as
00:26:22.020 the person
00:26:23.000 responsible for
00:26:23.820 this function.
00:26:24.600 but Jack
00:26:27.020 accurately
00:26:27.820 states that
00:26:29.700 he's the
00:26:30.380 boss and
00:26:31.080 the boss
00:26:31.460 takes
00:26:31.720 responsibility
00:26:32.300 and I
00:26:33.380 think we
00:26:33.720 all appreciate
00:26:34.500 that.
00:26:35.960 So while I
00:26:37.900 don't think
00:26:38.240 this will
00:26:38.540 necessarily stop
00:26:39.480 people from
00:26:39.980 going after
00:26:40.460 employees of
00:26:41.820 Twitter,
00:26:42.240 I think we
00:26:43.180 all appreciate
00:26:43.780 when the
00:26:44.260 boss backs
00:26:46.040 up the
00:26:46.360 employees.
00:26:46.740 So I
00:26:48.200 think you
00:26:48.480 can
00:26:48.640 appreciate
00:26:49.080 it on
00:26:49.700 a leadership
00:26:51.440 level that
00:26:52.940 you want
00:26:53.260 your leader
00:26:53.700 to back
00:26:54.120 up your
00:26:54.420 employees
00:26:54.880 because the
00:26:56.080 employees are
00:26:56.580 doing what
00:26:56.940 you told
00:26:57.340 them to do
00:26:57.860 and if they
00:26:59.020 make a mistake
00:26:59.640 that's sort
00:27:00.160 of an
00:27:00.480 internal
00:27:00.800 problem.
00:27:02.320 So far I
00:27:03.560 think we
00:27:03.900 could say
00:27:04.320 maybe you
00:27:06.120 still want
00:27:06.520 to say
00:27:06.740 things about
00:27:07.380 individual
00:27:08.040 employees and
00:27:08.780 I think
00:27:09.020 there is a
00:27:09.540 story there
00:27:10.040 because you
00:27:11.160 always have to
00:27:11.640 look at the
00:27:12.000 bias and
00:27:12.480 stuff.
00:27:13.380 But I
00:27:13.660 think you
00:27:13.960 could also
00:27:14.320 appreciate at
00:27:15.300 the same
00:27:15.620 time that
00:27:16.860 a leader
00:27:17.200 of an
00:27:17.500 organization
00:27:18.040 wants to
00:27:18.860 back the
00:27:19.780 employees and
00:27:20.840 so he did.
00:27:21.380 So that's one
00:27:21.920 tweet.
00:27:22.880 I don't think
00:27:23.380 we have to
00:27:23.740 make too
00:27:24.060 much of
00:27:24.360 that one.
00:27:25.980 Then he
00:27:26.500 goes on,
00:27:27.060 this does
00:27:27.720 not make
00:27:28.160 us an
00:27:29.100 arbiter of
00:27:29.980 truth.
00:27:30.760 I think
00:27:31.100 that was
00:27:31.400 referring to
00:27:32.440 maybe it
00:27:34.620 was Zuckerberg's
00:27:36.280 comment that
00:27:36.900 Zuckerberg
00:27:38.100 didn't want
00:27:38.660 Facebook to
00:27:39.500 be an
00:27:39.800 arbiter of
00:27:40.640 truth.
00:27:42.860 So let me
00:27:43.520 read the rest
00:27:43.940 of this.
00:27:44.240 This does not
00:27:44.760 make us an
00:27:45.240 arbiter of
00:27:45.720 truth.
00:27:46.140 Our
00:27:46.260 intention is
00:27:47.640 to connect
00:27:48.160 the dots
00:27:48.780 of conflicting
00:27:49.660 statements and
00:27:51.020 show the
00:27:51.500 information in
00:27:52.460 dispute.
00:27:53.900 Okay.
00:27:54.520 So he
00:27:55.080 says the
00:27:55.480 intention is
00:27:57.320 to highlight
00:27:58.260 things that
00:27:58.800 are in
00:27:59.000 dispute and
00:28:00.300 then connect
00:28:00.840 the dots.
00:28:01.560 The way I
00:28:02.400 read this is
00:28:03.440 that you
00:28:03.700 would see all
00:28:04.300 the dots.
00:28:05.200 You would
00:28:05.720 see the
00:28:06.020 dots on
00:28:06.460 both sides.
00:28:07.960 Now remember
00:28:08.400 yesterday I
00:28:08.980 was saying I'd
00:28:09.680 be happy,
00:28:10.200 just as a
00:28:10.780 user, if
00:28:12.080 something got
00:28:13.140 labeled fake,
00:28:14.020 so long as
00:28:15.700 equally
00:28:16.380 prominently and
00:28:17.540 the equally
00:28:18.060 prominent part
00:28:18.960 is sort of
00:28:19.700 the tricky
00:28:20.060 part because
00:28:20.660 a user
00:28:21.000 interface, you
00:28:22.240 can't make
00:28:22.620 everything
00:28:22.980 equally
00:28:23.400 prominent, it
00:28:24.460 just can't
00:28:24.860 be done
00:28:25.220 logically.
00:28:26.880 So your
00:28:27.300 user interface
00:28:28.020 on Twitter
00:28:28.520 is going to
00:28:29.480 have to use
00:28:29.900 some magic
00:28:30.460 to make it
00:28:32.100 feel like you're
00:28:32.840 getting equal
00:28:33.440 prominence of
00:28:34.820 the fact
00:28:36.360 check that
00:28:36.940 says it's
00:28:37.320 false, but
00:28:38.480 also the
00:28:39.140 sources that
00:28:39.700 say no, no,
00:28:40.280 it's not
00:28:40.640 false, here's
00:28:41.440 our sources.
00:28:43.800 So Jack
00:28:44.660 seems to be
00:28:45.440 signaling with
00:28:47.220 this tweet that
00:28:48.580 the intention is
00:28:49.460 to show both
00:28:50.120 sides of
00:28:50.900 disputed tweets.
00:28:52.040 Do you have a
00:28:52.480 problem with
00:28:52.960 that?
00:28:54.040 Would you
00:28:54.460 have a problem,
00:28:55.660 let me ask you
00:28:56.300 in the comments,
00:28:57.320 would you have
00:28:57.900 a problem if it
00:28:58.860 could be done?
00:29:00.200 I don't know if
00:29:00.760 it could be done
00:29:01.380 because it's just
00:29:02.440 hard to execute
00:29:03.100 that, but if
00:29:04.320 it could be
00:29:04.760 done, that
00:29:06.520 Twitter would
00:29:07.140 flag things
00:29:07.880 that are
00:29:08.140 disputed, but
00:29:09.780 clearly show
00:29:10.620 both sides,
00:29:12.360 would you be
00:29:12.880 okay with
00:29:13.300 that?
00:29:14.600 Because I
00:29:15.300 actually would.
00:29:16.700 I would be
00:29:17.140 100% okay with
00:29:18.140 that.
00:29:18.820 Not only that,
00:29:19.580 but I would
00:29:19.880 think that would
00:29:20.320 be positive
00:29:20.920 for conservatives.
00:29:22.540 Very positive
00:29:23.520 for conservatives.
00:29:24.800 Because what
00:29:25.320 are you most
00:29:25.900 worried about?
00:29:27.060 If you're a
00:29:27.840 conservative or
00:29:28.560 Republican, you're
00:29:30.260 most worried that
00:29:31.560 the other side is
00:29:32.440 not hearing the
00:29:33.040 story.
00:29:34.020 Because you
00:29:34.540 hear what the
00:29:35.320 mainstream media
00:29:36.160 says, you if
00:29:37.140 you're conservative,
00:29:38.060 and then you also
00:29:38.800 hear what
00:29:39.200 conservatives say,
00:29:40.020 so you're seeing
00:29:40.420 a well-rounded
00:29:41.100 picture.
00:29:42.660 I talk about a
00:29:44.140 phrase that I've
00:29:44.680 been using, the
00:29:45.260 poorly educated.
00:29:46.840 The poorly
00:29:47.360 educated, by my
00:29:48.400 definition, just
00:29:49.180 for fun, is
00:29:50.220 anybody who's
00:29:50.840 just in one
00:29:51.500 silo of news,
00:29:53.040 either the
00:29:53.520 left only, or
00:29:55.540 they only see the
00:29:56.380 news on the
00:29:56.900 right.
00:29:57.620 There's less of a
00:29:58.540 silo there, because
00:29:59.420 again, the left
00:30:00.920 news is more
00:30:01.660 ubiquitous.
00:30:02.160 You see it
00:30:02.820 everywhere.
00:30:04.120 So, I would
00:30:06.740 say that that
00:30:07.480 at least shows
00:30:09.360 the intention of
00:30:11.820 moving in the
00:30:12.960 right direction, of
00:30:14.020 showing both
00:30:14.520 sides.
00:30:15.160 Now, the
00:30:15.560 current
00:30:16.040 implementation
00:30:17.000 doesn't do
00:30:17.620 that, does
00:30:18.060 it?
00:30:18.180 So, it feels
00:30:21.820 like this is a
00:30:22.940 process that's
00:30:24.860 being worked
00:30:25.380 out in
00:30:25.960 Twitter.
00:30:26.280 In other
00:30:26.520 words, they
00:30:26.860 don't have a
00:30:27.380 final answer.
00:30:28.740 They're A-B
00:30:29.180 testing, they're
00:30:30.120 putting stuff
00:30:30.580 out, you'll
00:30:31.440 probably see a
00:30:32.040 few new
00:30:32.420 looks.
00:30:33.320 I wouldn't be
00:30:33.960 surprised if you
00:30:34.780 see three or
00:30:35.380 four looks in
00:30:36.760 the coming year,
00:30:37.900 just to make
00:30:38.560 sure that you
00:30:39.160 are highlighting
00:30:40.000 things fairly.
00:30:40.900 So, I would
00:30:43.400 first of all, give
00:30:45.140 them a little
00:30:46.160 flexibility.
00:30:47.220 I think you
00:30:47.640 should allow
00:30:48.080 them some
00:30:48.540 flexibility to
00:30:50.200 work through
00:30:50.720 this, because
00:30:52.620 it's pretty clear
00:30:53.440 they're hearing
00:30:53.920 the complaints.
00:30:55.840 I don't think
00:30:56.740 there's any, I
00:30:58.640 think I can say
00:30:59.360 with complete
00:30:59.980 confidence, there's
00:31:01.840 no chance that
00:31:03.020 Twitter and Jack
00:31:04.280 in particular are
00:31:05.200 not hearing very
00:31:07.480 clearly what the
00:31:09.760 issues are.
00:31:11.100 And it's also
00:31:11.960 true that they're
00:31:12.600 clearly trying to
00:31:13.380 work through them
00:31:14.080 in a way that
00:31:15.140 will make most
00:31:16.320 people happy,
00:31:17.100 because that's
00:31:17.640 their business
00:31:18.080 model.
00:31:18.720 They don't
00:31:19.120 really have a
00:31:19.640 business if
00:31:20.360 they're only
00:31:20.860 catering to
00:31:21.780 half of the
00:31:22.400 country.
00:31:23.140 So clearly he
00:31:23.920 wants everybody
00:31:24.540 to use Twitter,
00:31:25.420 and that's,
00:31:26.380 duh.
00:31:27.240 So, I would
00:31:29.220 give them a
00:31:29.540 little time to
00:31:30.880 work through
00:31:31.220 this, which is
00:31:32.620 not to say that
00:31:33.340 you should take
00:31:33.960 the pressure off,
00:31:35.360 at least the
00:31:35.940 social news,
00:31:37.480 related pressure
00:31:38.700 of what you
00:31:39.200 would like to
00:31:39.620 see done.
00:31:40.600 So I think
00:31:40.980 the pressure
00:31:41.460 is constructive.
00:31:45.600 Friction is
00:31:46.300 often constructive,
00:31:47.320 and I think
00:31:47.580 this is very
00:31:48.160 much a
00:31:49.060 constructive
00:31:49.640 friction situation.
00:31:51.600 So if you
00:31:51.960 can step back
00:31:52.620 from the
00:31:53.300 carnage for
00:31:53.940 a moment and
00:31:54.500 just sort of
00:31:54.920 look at it
00:31:55.360 from 30,000
00:31:56.180 feet, there's
00:31:57.280 something pretty
00:31:57.800 good happening.
00:31:59.680 Or potentially.
00:32:01.400 Potentially there's
00:32:02.160 something really
00:32:02.660 good happening,
00:32:03.760 but you need a
00:32:04.560 little distance from
00:32:05.340 it to be able
00:32:05.760 to see it.
00:32:06.320 All right.
00:32:08.100 Here's the
00:32:08.700 good part.
00:32:09.920 So far, if I've
00:32:11.100 done this
00:32:11.480 correctly, most
00:32:13.180 of you are mad
00:32:13.960 at me right
00:32:14.460 now.
00:32:15.260 Have I done
00:32:15.720 that correctly?
00:32:16.680 A lot of you
00:32:17.440 should be a
00:32:17.880 little bit mad
00:32:18.800 because you're
00:32:20.200 not quite
00:32:20.680 buying what
00:32:22.420 I'm saying.
00:32:23.580 But here's
00:32:24.140 the punchline.
00:32:25.920 Here's the
00:32:26.340 kicker.
00:32:28.360 Jack goes on
00:32:29.240 with his third
00:32:29.860 tweet, and he
00:32:30.320 says,
00:32:30.520 per civic
00:32:31.280 integrity
00:32:31.880 policy, which
00:32:33.260 is an
00:32:33.500 actual published
00:32:34.900 policy, the
00:32:36.260 tweets yesterday,
00:32:37.200 and he's talking
00:32:37.620 about the
00:32:37.960 president's tweets
00:32:38.680 about mail-in
00:32:39.760 ballots, the
00:32:40.820 tweets yesterday
00:32:41.400 may mislead
00:32:42.200 people into
00:32:42.780 thinking they
00:32:43.400 don't need to
00:32:44.000 register to
00:32:45.520 get a ballot.
00:32:47.180 And then
00:32:47.520 parenthetically
00:32:48.160 he says, only
00:32:48.800 registered voters
00:32:49.880 receive ballots.
00:32:51.380 And we're
00:32:51.960 updating the
00:32:52.580 link on that
00:32:53.160 to clarify
00:32:54.120 that.
00:32:55.100 To which I
00:32:56.000 say, what?
00:32:57.780 Because isn't
00:33:02.120 this completely
00:33:02.820 different than
00:33:03.400 what you thought
00:33:03.920 it was?
00:33:05.200 Did you not
00:33:06.060 think that
00:33:07.200 this was the
00:33:07.880 beginning of
00:33:08.640 Twitter, hold
00:33:10.200 on, did you
00:33:11.560 not think that
00:33:12.960 this whole mail-in
00:33:14.560 ballot fact-checking
00:33:15.660 thing was the
00:33:16.320 beginning of
00:33:16.980 Twitter fact-checking
00:33:19.500 opinion?
00:33:21.140 You did, didn't
00:33:21.860 you?
00:33:22.480 You thought that
00:33:23.140 they were going
00:33:23.460 to start fact-checking
00:33:24.620 just ordinary
00:33:25.780 political opinion.
00:33:26.760 And then
00:33:27.760 you say to
00:33:28.160 yourself, well,
00:33:29.620 how come they
00:33:30.220 haven't fact-checked
00:33:31.280 the fine people
00:33:32.020 hoax?
00:33:32.960 How come they
00:33:33.560 haven't fact-checked
00:33:34.680 the Joe Scarborough
00:33:35.920 thing?
00:33:36.440 Why'd they let
00:33:36.960 that go?
00:33:37.620 The other side
00:33:38.360 says.
00:33:39.140 Why not fact-check
00:33:40.260 this and that?
00:33:41.280 And you're
00:33:41.660 confused, right?
00:33:42.780 Aren't you
00:33:43.120 confused?
00:33:44.560 Because there are
00:33:45.460 all these things
00:33:46.080 that could be
00:33:46.540 fact-checked, but
00:33:47.840 why did they
00:33:48.280 pick this one
00:33:48.920 thing?
00:33:50.020 And the answer
00:33:50.580 is, Jack
00:33:51.860 told you.
00:33:53.200 He picked the
00:33:54.040 one thing because
00:33:54.820 it's a special
00:33:55.500 case.
00:33:56.040 the special
00:33:57.360 case is saying
00:33:59.100 something that
00:33:59.660 would reduce
00:34:00.340 voter turnout.
00:34:03.300 Is this the
00:34:04.240 first time you're
00:34:04.900 hearing that?
00:34:06.260 Probably is,
00:34:07.180 right?
00:34:07.360 Are you
00:34:09.340 against social
00:34:11.080 media calling
00:34:12.880 out something that
00:34:14.120 would give people
00:34:14.840 misinformation that
00:34:17.160 would cause fewer
00:34:17.980 people to vote?
00:34:20.020 No, you're not.
00:34:20.900 You are not
00:34:21.960 against that.
00:34:23.300 You are not
00:34:23.940 opposed to
00:34:26.120 social media
00:34:27.000 correcting
00:34:28.260 misinformation
00:34:29.000 with the
00:34:31.080 purpose of
00:34:31.900 increasing
00:34:32.440 turnout.
00:34:36.280 Hold on.
00:34:37.600 Now, I believe
00:34:38.180 there was one
00:34:38.700 other thing that
00:34:39.320 got fact-checked
00:34:41.200 by Twitter.
00:34:41.980 Maybe you need
00:34:42.440 to fact-check me
00:34:43.240 on this.
00:34:43.560 But you saw
00:34:44.740 the picture of
00:34:45.340 the police
00:34:45.920 officer who
00:34:47.640 looks like he
00:34:49.280 murdered a guy
00:34:49.960 in Minnesota.
00:34:52.300 And then there
00:34:53.000 was a fake
00:34:53.700 news that there
00:34:54.500 was a picture of
00:34:55.100 him wearing a
00:34:55.860 Make America
00:34:56.520 Great Again
00:34:57.060 hat.
00:34:57.900 I think Twitter
00:34:58.820 also called out
00:34:59.980 that as a
00:35:00.820 fake picture.
00:35:02.700 Now, look at
00:35:03.720 the two things
00:35:04.640 that, and I
00:35:06.820 need to fact-check
00:35:07.440 on that, but
00:35:07.960 look at the two
00:35:08.440 things that Twitter
00:35:09.760 has identified.
00:35:10.840 and see if
00:35:13.060 you can find
00:35:13.460 the pattern.
00:35:14.540 They've identified
00:35:15.460 a statement
00:35:17.060 from the
00:35:17.820 president that
00:35:19.360 could cause
00:35:20.020 people not to
00:35:20.820 register to
00:35:21.500 vote, because
00:35:22.600 the specific
00:35:23.240 problem was
00:35:23.880 the president
00:35:24.400 suggested that
00:35:25.700 everybody would
00:35:26.380 get a mail-in
00:35:27.040 ballot no matter
00:35:27.960 what.
00:35:29.080 The problem
00:35:29.780 is, if you
00:35:30.700 believe that,
00:35:31.680 you might not
00:35:32.300 register to
00:35:33.040 vote, and that
00:35:34.200 would decrease
00:35:34.900 the number of
00:35:35.500 people voting.
00:35:36.660 Would it
00:35:37.120 decrease the
00:35:37.800 number of
00:35:38.500 only Democrats
00:35:39.580 voting?
00:35:39.920 Nope.
00:35:41.880 Would it
00:35:42.260 decrease the
00:35:42.920 number of
00:35:43.740 Democrats and
00:35:45.520 Republicans
00:35:46.040 voting?
00:35:47.240 Yeah.
00:35:48.640 Yeah, that's
00:35:49.560 the whole
00:35:49.840 problem.
00:35:50.860 The whole
00:35:51.220 problem is,
00:35:52.000 it has nothing
00:35:53.040 to do with
00:35:53.480 politics.
00:35:54.640 The whole
00:35:55.140 problem is,
00:35:56.080 it's a fact
00:35:56.920 that was
00:35:58.100 wrong.
00:35:59.160 And if you
00:35:59.600 believe that
00:36:00.240 wrong fact,
00:36:01.480 you might not
00:36:02.380 register to
00:36:03.060 vote.
00:36:04.420 So, you
00:36:06.140 might hate
00:36:06.640 this, but
00:36:08.300 I'm 100% in
00:36:09.540 favor of
00:36:10.060 Twitter's
00:36:10.600 reaction on
00:36:11.720 this, calling
00:36:12.680 it fake.
00:36:16.220 I'm going to
00:36:16.860 back Twitter
00:36:17.300 on this, because
00:36:18.660 no matter what
00:36:19.640 this source is,
00:36:20.540 whether it
00:36:20.940 comes from the
00:36:21.480 President of the
00:36:22.000 United States,
00:36:22.960 or it comes
00:36:23.740 from Joe
00:36:24.620 Biden, or
00:36:25.820 anyone else,
00:36:27.240 if anyone
00:36:28.160 publishes
00:36:28.760 something on
00:36:29.240 social media
00:36:29.980 that is wrong
00:36:31.460 information that
00:36:32.260 would cause
00:36:32.640 somebody not to
00:36:33.400 register or not
00:36:34.180 to vote,
00:36:35.460 yeah, yeah, I'm
00:36:37.060 completely in favor of
00:36:38.060 calling that out.
00:36:39.180 Is there anybody
00:36:39.720 here who's not in
00:36:40.480 favor of that?
00:36:42.380 Let's say,
00:36:43.120 hypothetically, it
00:36:43.860 was the only
00:36:44.240 thing.
00:36:45.320 If it's the only
00:36:46.260 thing that got
00:36:46.800 called out, would
00:36:47.340 you be in favor
00:36:47.900 of that?
00:36:48.860 I think you
00:36:49.420 would.
00:36:50.780 Because somebody
00:36:51.740 says it's a
00:36:52.320 flimsy excuse,
00:36:53.460 you're going to
00:36:53.940 have to do
00:36:54.360 better.
00:36:55.560 You're going to
00:36:56.040 have to do
00:36:56.440 better in your
00:36:56.980 counter-argument.
00:36:57.800 If all you're
00:36:58.340 saying is, I
00:36:59.320 don't believe it,
00:37:00.340 it's a flimsy
00:37:01.220 excuse, it's not
00:37:02.660 good enough, well,
00:37:03.900 you're going to
00:37:04.140 have to explain why
00:37:05.240 Jack pointed to a
00:37:06.680 previously written
00:37:07.700 document that
00:37:09.000 completely supports
00:37:10.000 what they did.
00:37:12.340 I think the
00:37:14.280 news has
00:37:15.000 completely botched
00:37:16.080 it, both on the
00:37:17.060 left and the
00:37:17.580 right.
00:37:18.620 The news should
00:37:19.980 be that Twitter
00:37:21.600 is trying a new
00:37:22.500 process and it's
00:37:23.460 not working right.
00:37:25.200 If you ask
00:37:26.120 Twitter, hey, did
00:37:27.440 that first fact
00:37:28.260 check work just
00:37:29.020 the way you
00:37:29.460 wanted it to?
00:37:30.480 What do you
00:37:30.820 think they would
00:37:31.240 say?
00:37:31.980 I think they'd
00:37:32.820 say it didn't
00:37:33.220 work.
00:37:34.520 I think.
00:37:35.320 don't you
00:37:36.540 think so?
00:37:37.500 I think they
00:37:38.200 would say it
00:37:38.680 didn't work.
00:37:39.760 We're trying to
00:37:40.300 fix it.
00:37:41.380 Now, remember, my
00:37:43.060 standard for judging
00:37:44.420 people is always the
00:37:45.800 same.
00:37:46.580 It's not about if
00:37:48.000 they made a mistake
00:37:49.060 because that's all
00:37:49.860 of us.
00:37:50.620 We're all making
00:37:51.380 mistakes all the
00:37:52.140 time.
00:37:52.760 But you can judge
00:37:53.920 people by how
00:37:55.640 they respond.
00:37:57.260 So we don't know
00:37:58.440 the full response
00:37:59.300 because this is a
00:38:00.060 process.
00:38:01.260 But the initial
00:38:02.220 response is to
00:38:03.400 change the label
00:38:05.520 on it so it's
00:38:06.600 more specific that
00:38:08.220 the only thing
00:38:08.840 they're calling
00:38:09.340 out is that
00:38:11.000 fact about you
00:38:12.840 should register
00:38:13.620 or you're not
00:38:14.160 going to get a
00:38:14.620 mail-in ballot.
00:38:16.420 If they clarify
00:38:17.420 that as their
00:38:18.100 only problem, I'm
00:38:20.240 not too bad with
00:38:21.200 that.
00:38:21.940 I'm not too bad
00:38:23.000 with that.
00:38:24.900 I think there's
00:38:25.740 room to go.
00:38:26.820 They still need to
00:38:27.400 put counterarguments
00:38:28.180 and stuff.
00:38:29.000 But here's the
00:38:29.580 thing.
00:38:29.880 The way it's
00:38:30.380 being reported is
00:38:31.680 that Twitter was
00:38:36.840 complaining about
00:38:38.000 the president's
00:38:38.980 statement that
00:38:40.100 mail-in ballots
00:38:41.020 have an opportunity
00:38:42.380 for fraud.
00:38:43.920 That's what you
00:38:44.440 thought the news
00:38:45.940 was, that Twitter
00:38:47.840 fact-checked the
00:38:50.000 president saying
00:38:50.760 that mail-in ballots
00:38:51.800 cause fraud.
00:38:53.600 And that didn't
00:38:54.320 happen.
00:38:55.700 That actually just
00:38:56.340 didn't happen.
00:38:57.480 It was reported
00:38:58.200 that way on both
00:38:59.140 the left and the
00:38:59.800 right, which I
00:39:01.040 usually tell you
00:39:01.760 means it's true.
00:39:03.320 But once you
00:39:04.400 see Jack's
00:39:05.060 explanation, you
00:39:06.260 say, oh, that's
00:39:08.100 actually a pretty
00:39:08.800 clear standard.
00:39:09.960 If the standard
00:39:10.860 makes people less
00:39:11.940 likely to know
00:39:13.300 how to vote, the
00:39:14.540 process, yeah, I'm
00:39:16.600 okay with that.
00:39:17.960 Now, what about
00:39:18.800 the photograph?
00:39:19.900 So the other one
00:39:20.640 was a photograph of
00:39:21.920 the wrong person,
00:39:23.120 which is pretty
00:39:24.220 dangerous.
00:39:25.840 I mean, that
00:39:26.180 photograph of the
00:39:27.120 wrong person wearing
00:39:28.080 a MAGA hat, do you,
00:39:30.240 as many of you are
00:39:32.360 conservatives, many of
00:39:33.320 you are Trump
00:39:33.800 supporters, did you
00:39:35.940 want that photo to
00:39:37.880 stay on Twitter
00:39:38.680 without a fact-check?
00:39:40.360 Because that's not
00:39:41.160 good for you, right?
00:39:43.000 If you've ever put on
00:39:43.980 a MAGA hat, you don't
00:39:45.360 want to see the guy
00:39:46.100 who just murdered a
00:39:46.980 black guy, you know,
00:39:48.960 incorrectly being
00:39:49.880 labeled as somebody
00:39:50.920 who wears a MAGA
00:39:51.640 hat.
00:39:52.420 You don't want that.
00:39:53.480 Now, what do the
00:39:55.480 photograph and the
00:39:58.240 voting registration
00:40:00.060 thing have in
00:40:00.880 common?
00:40:01.600 They do have
00:40:02.320 something in
00:40:02.840 common.
00:40:03.820 And what they have
00:40:04.460 in common is those
00:40:05.400 are really basic,
00:40:06.380 just facts.
00:40:07.940 And they're not
00:40:09.480 opinions.
00:40:11.280 What is the Joe
00:40:12.200 Scarborough murdered
00:40:13.360 somebody?
00:40:14.840 Speculation and
00:40:17.020 opinion.
00:40:18.380 Did they stop the
00:40:19.640 speculation or the
00:40:20.700 opinion?
00:40:21.080 They did not.
00:40:21.640 They did not.
00:40:23.320 If you look at the
00:40:24.420 full breadth of
00:40:25.740 political thought,
00:40:27.960 have they tried to
00:40:28.960 fact-check the
00:40:29.740 fine people hoax?
00:40:31.440 They have not.
00:40:32.760 Because that's sort
00:40:33.540 of an interpretation,
00:40:35.860 even though you
00:40:36.760 could point to the
00:40:37.760 transcript and show
00:40:39.040 that it's a wrong
00:40:40.080 interpretation.
00:40:41.200 But that's sort of
00:40:41.940 an interpretation.
00:40:43.980 It looks to be,
00:40:45.760 and I don't know
00:40:46.400 this yet, but it
00:40:48.100 looks to be that
00:40:48.780 where they're heading
00:40:49.520 is that they're not
00:40:50.960 going to fact-check
00:40:51.620 fact-check interpretations
00:40:53.660 no matter how
00:40:54.720 obviously wrong they
00:40:55.780 are.
00:40:56.500 It does look like
00:40:58.160 they're going to
00:40:58.700 fact-check facts,
00:41:00.480 but also maybe
00:41:02.760 show you some,
00:41:03.600 you know,
00:41:03.800 both sides so you
00:41:04.620 can decide whether
00:41:05.380 the fact is a fact.
00:41:06.660 Now, the photograph
00:41:07.580 was just a fact
00:41:08.760 that was wrong.
00:41:10.220 The information
00:41:11.360 about the registration
00:41:13.260 is a fact that
00:41:14.580 was wrong.
00:41:15.420 Here's the other
00:41:16.060 thing that both of
00:41:16.800 them have in common.
00:41:18.760 Neither the left
00:41:19.900 nor the right
00:41:20.820 would disagree
00:41:21.720 with what I just
00:41:22.620 said.
00:41:23.720 Nobody on the left
00:41:24.720 or the right
00:41:25.260 thinks that that
00:41:26.040 photograph was
00:41:26.840 the right guy,
00:41:28.100 now, I mean,
00:41:28.960 now that we know.
00:41:29.940 And nobody on the
00:41:31.020 left or the right
00:41:31.820 thinks that we
00:41:35.560 should have bad
00:41:36.260 information about
00:41:37.100 how you register
00:41:37.960 to vote.
00:41:38.680 There's nobody on
00:41:39.580 the other side.
00:41:40.200 If the only thing
00:41:42.860 that Twitter fact
00:41:43.800 checks are facts
00:41:46.100 for which nobody's
00:41:48.580 on the other
00:41:49.060 side, are you
00:41:51.060 going to have a
00:41:51.420 problem with
00:41:51.780 that?
00:41:53.380 Now, obviously,
00:41:54.600 they blew the
00:41:55.260 first iteration.
00:41:58.680 But if you've
00:42:00.220 had any experience
00:42:01.160 with interfaces
00:42:02.280 or building
00:42:03.160 software or
00:42:04.260 trying to build
00:42:05.320 a product for
00:42:06.080 the public,
00:42:07.360 how unusual is
00:42:08.960 it that you're
00:42:10.000 first version
00:42:10.760 doesn't work.
00:42:11.780 It's pretty
00:42:12.300 common.
00:42:14.020 So I'd give
00:42:15.140 them a little
00:42:15.540 time to work
00:42:16.260 this out.
00:42:18.080 Now, will
00:42:18.940 anybody let go
00:42:19.940 of this?
00:42:20.280 No, I don't
00:42:20.660 expect the
00:42:21.200 president or
00:42:21.820 anybody else to
00:42:22.620 let go of it
00:42:23.540 because it's
00:42:24.340 such a good
00:42:24.900 political season
00:42:26.280 thing to do.
00:42:28.480 Now, if you
00:42:29.800 wanted to say
00:42:32.040 that social media
00:42:33.200 is doing bad
00:42:35.040 things to you
00:42:35.620 and you don't
00:42:36.060 want it to
00:42:36.460 happen, you
00:42:37.380 should definitely
00:42:37.880 look at the
00:42:38.520 following and
00:42:39.180 unfollowing
00:42:39.720 problem.
00:42:40.620 Because the
00:42:41.200 problem of
00:42:41.760 being automatically
00:42:42.620 unfollowed, that
00:42:44.440 is 100%
00:42:45.180 happening.
00:42:46.960 There's
00:42:47.440 any chance in
00:42:48.260 the world that
00:42:49.660 people aren't
00:42:50.200 being automatically
00:42:51.000 unfollowed.
00:42:52.160 I just don't
00:42:52.780 know if anybody
00:42:53.260 knows why.
00:42:54.540 But that's
00:42:54.940 real.
00:42:55.880 I mean, that
00:42:56.200 part's absolutely
00:42:56.980 real.
00:42:58.020 So we should
00:42:58.940 be pushing on
00:42:59.620 that, not on
00:43:00.920 fact-checking
00:43:02.220 facts for which
00:43:03.100 both the left
00:43:03.760 and the right
00:43:04.220 agree is not
00:43:04.940 facts.
00:43:05.320 if they push
00:43:06.760 it into the
00:43:07.280 opinion, well
00:43:09.100 then, now
00:43:10.400 we've got a
00:43:10.860 real problem.
00:43:12.400 If you see
00:43:14.300 Twitter fact-checking
00:43:16.480 hyperbole,
00:43:18.360 speculation,
00:43:19.920 opinion, or
00:43:20.720 even really
00:43:21.220 outright obvious
00:43:22.960 lies, as long
00:43:24.340 as they're obvious
00:43:24.960 lies, I don't
00:43:26.380 think they need
00:43:26.820 to fact-check
00:43:27.320 that stuff.
00:43:28.400 I think they
00:43:28.860 should be out
00:43:29.260 of that business
00:43:29.820 because then
00:43:30.680 they would be
00:43:31.180 arbiters of
00:43:32.060 truth.
00:43:33.900 Now let's
00:43:34.580 look at this
00:43:35.340 one statement.
00:43:36.240 Jack says,
00:43:37.060 this does not
00:43:37.760 make us
00:43:38.200 arbiters of
00:43:39.240 truth.
00:43:40.520 Are they an
00:43:41.440 arbiter of
00:43:42.160 truth to
00:43:43.620 tell you that
00:43:44.360 you have to
00:43:45.280 be registered
00:43:45.920 to get a
00:43:46.720 mail-in vote?
00:43:47.380 No.
00:43:47.980 They're not
00:43:48.380 arbiters.
00:43:49.540 They just
00:43:49.880 pass the law.
00:43:51.340 They're not
00:43:51.740 arbitering
00:43:52.300 anything.
00:43:53.020 Nobody even
00:43:53.500 disagrees with
00:43:54.120 that.
00:43:54.880 Are they
00:43:55.280 arbiters of
00:43:56.080 truth about
00:43:56.620 whether that
00:43:57.060 photograph of
00:43:57.740 the guy in
00:43:58.080 the hat is
00:43:58.600 true or not
00:43:59.380 true?
00:44:00.100 No.
00:44:01.020 They're not
00:44:01.400 arbiting
00:44:01.960 anything.
00:44:03.880 That's not a
00:44:04.360 word, but you
00:44:04.840 know what I
00:44:05.100 mean.
00:44:05.880 They're just
00:44:06.520 telling you
00:44:06.980 what both
00:44:08.040 sides agree.
00:44:08.700 It's not
00:44:09.040 the person.
00:44:10.280 That's it.
00:44:11.720 So, most
00:44:13.460 of our news
00:44:13.940 today is
00:44:14.840 fake, as
00:44:16.360 you can see.
00:44:18.640 And,
00:44:19.040 all right,
00:44:22.320 that's enough
00:44:22.840 on that story.
00:44:24.660 Joe Biden
00:44:25.520 is being
00:44:26.200 mocked for,
00:44:28.740 he made
00:44:29.140 some comment
00:44:29.980 about Delaware
00:44:30.800 declaring its
00:44:31.800 independence
00:44:32.320 as a state,
00:44:33.880 I guess,
00:44:34.240 on December
00:44:34.900 7th.
00:44:36.080 And they
00:44:36.700 said,
00:44:37.100 it isn't
00:44:37.980 just D-Day.
00:44:39.840 And apparently,
00:44:42.180 December 7th,
00:44:43.980 he was confusing
00:44:44.640 with Pearl
00:44:45.440 Harbor Day,
00:44:46.660 and it's not
00:44:47.900 the day that
00:44:48.480 Delaware was
00:44:49.320 independent
00:44:49.900 either.
00:44:51.480 So, just the
00:44:52.300 whole thing was
00:44:52.880 confusing.
00:44:54.480 But, sure,
00:44:55.960 Joe Biden's
00:44:56.560 your guy.
00:44:57.540 So, you want
00:44:58.160 some more fake
00:44:58.780 news?
00:44:59.120 Here's some
00:44:59.620 more fake
00:45:00.020 news.
00:45:01.620 Democrats
00:45:02.060 want Joe
00:45:04.620 Biden to
00:45:05.100 be their
00:45:05.480 leader.
00:45:06.920 You don't
00:45:07.480 believe that,
00:45:08.000 do you?
00:45:10.840 Trump said
00:45:11.560 grabbing women
00:45:12.320 by the
00:45:12.800 blah-blah-blah,
00:45:13.640 they let you
00:45:14.340 do it.
00:45:14.740 Is it
00:45:14.980 fact or
00:45:15.600 opinion?
00:45:19.800 What?
00:45:20.520 I mean,
00:45:21.000 it's fact that
00:45:21.560 he said it.
00:45:22.900 I don't
00:45:23.460 understand the
00:45:24.040 question.
00:45:24.300 doesn't it
00:45:31.200 feel like
00:45:31.580 progress
00:45:32.220 that our
00:45:33.700 biggest race
00:45:34.380 problem
00:45:34.880 in 2020,
00:45:37.520 if you had
00:45:38.240 to say,
00:45:38.620 what was the
00:45:39.060 biggest racial
00:45:40.700 issue in
00:45:41.880 2020?
00:45:42.720 We had a
00:45:43.340 bunch of
00:45:43.720 them.
00:45:44.140 Everything
00:45:44.500 from Governor
00:45:46.120 Northerman
00:45:46.660 blackface to
00:45:48.000 Jussie Smollett.
00:45:49.640 there's always
00:45:51.540 lots of
00:45:52.000 them.
00:45:52.540 But I
00:45:52.780 would say
00:45:53.060 the biggest
00:45:53.860 one is
00:45:54.360 maybe this
00:45:54.860 one.
00:45:55.920 Because you
00:45:56.420 got your
00:45:56.780 riots,
00:45:57.460 it's closer
00:45:58.140 to elections,
00:45:59.080 so everything's
00:46:00.040 accentuated.
00:46:01.840 But is it
00:46:03.640 not incredibly
00:46:04.600 good news
00:46:05.340 that our
00:46:05.980 biggest race
00:46:06.920 problem actually
00:46:07.900 has everybody
00:46:08.540 on the same
00:46:09.040 side?
00:46:09.360 is it
00:46:11.300 really a
00:46:11.640 race
00:46:11.840 problem if
00:46:12.420 everybody
00:46:12.760 agrees?
00:46:14.200 Like I
00:46:14.860 said before,
00:46:15.920 it's kind
00:46:16.180 of good,
00:46:17.060 it's sort
00:46:19.080 of a good
00:46:19.740 sign.
00:46:21.880 Mike
00:46:22.380 Cernovich has
00:46:23.140 been calling
00:46:23.660 out that
00:46:25.500 when we see
00:46:25.940 the pictures
00:46:26.460 of the
00:46:27.580 rioters,
00:46:29.020 it's being
00:46:29.580 sort of
00:46:30.280 cast as
00:46:31.500 Black Lives
00:46:32.180 Matter are
00:46:33.440 causing all
00:46:34.260 the problems.
00:46:35.360 But it
00:46:35.620 looks like
00:46:35.940 it's Antifa.
00:46:37.220 It looks
00:46:37.880 like Antifa
00:46:38.600 might be
00:46:39.100 causing the
00:46:39.620 problems and
00:46:40.780 Black Lives
00:46:41.320 Matter might
00:46:42.440 be getting a
00:46:42.980 little bit
00:46:43.320 framed,
00:46:44.340 might be
00:46:44.740 getting a
00:46:45.100 little bit
00:46:45.420 framed by
00:46:46.260 Antifa.
00:46:49.300 And just
00:46:50.340 from what I
00:46:50.920 can see from
00:46:51.680 the videos,
00:46:53.180 there is
00:46:53.920 something to
00:46:54.480 that claim.
00:46:55.800 Now I
00:46:56.080 don't know if
00:46:56.360 the framing
00:46:56.840 is some
00:46:57.560 kind of
00:46:57.820 intentional
00:46:58.300 act or
00:46:58.940 it's just
00:46:59.260 happening,
00:47:00.260 but I
00:47:00.800 think the
00:47:01.240 way the
00:47:02.260 media is
00:47:02.860 covering it,
00:47:04.900 they seem
00:47:05.880 to be
00:47:06.180 covering for
00:47:06.920 Antifa as
00:47:08.200 if they're
00:47:08.520 not even
00:47:08.920 there and
00:47:10.440 they seem
00:47:10.780 to be
00:47:11.120 emphasizing the
00:47:12.020 racial part,
00:47:13.100 which is
00:47:13.740 completely
00:47:14.160 fake.
00:47:15.920 It's not
00:47:16.640 fake that
00:47:17.080 people are
00:47:17.460 mad at the
00:47:17.920 police in
00:47:18.520 Minnesota,
00:47:19.080 that part's
00:47:19.500 real, but
00:47:20.460 to think that
00:47:21.580 that's a
00:47:22.300 racial problem,
00:47:23.440 that's just a
00:47:24.140 media invention.
00:47:25.980 All right,
00:47:26.480 so that's
00:47:29.960 my key to
00:47:32.080 you, if
00:47:32.860 you want,
00:47:33.680 you got my
00:47:34.600 blood pressure
00:47:35.140 up this
00:47:35.540 morning.
00:47:35.800 which part?
00:47:38.660 All right,
00:47:39.340 so I
00:47:39.680 gave you a
00:47:41.600 lot of
00:47:41.880 stuff this
00:47:42.360 morning.
00:47:42.820 I want to
00:47:43.180 see
00:47:43.520 which parts
00:47:49.120 of this
00:47:49.520 got you
00:47:50.000 most worked
00:47:50.660 up.
00:47:52.960 Because I
00:47:53.920 think
00:47:54.200 it's always
00:47:58.920 hard to
00:47:59.400 find out
00:47:59.800 that everything
00:48:00.400 you thought
00:48:00.860 about the
00:48:01.240 news is
00:48:02.000 wrong.
00:48:02.380 it's just
00:48:03.220 one of
00:48:03.500 those days
00:48:03.960 where pretty
00:48:04.880 much all
00:48:05.320 the big
00:48:05.640 stories are
00:48:06.180 just fake.
00:48:11.240 The home
00:48:12.000 corporation of
00:48:12.860 Target is
00:48:13.440 getting pummeled.
00:48:14.500 Where is the
00:48:14.980 home corporation?
00:48:19.880 The other
00:48:20.500 side won't
00:48:20.980 take yes for
00:48:21.620 an answer.
00:48:22.100 That's exactly
00:48:22.680 what's happening.
00:48:23.560 Yeah, they
00:48:23.960 won't take yes
00:48:24.540 for an answer.
00:48:26.500 Somebody said
00:48:27.220 this is why
00:48:27.740 Kaepernick took
00:48:28.620 a knee and
00:48:29.300 you all
00:48:29.840 condemned that.
00:48:30.720 No, nope.
00:48:33.640 Whoever just
00:48:34.200 said that.
00:48:35.120 So they're
00:48:35.480 saying this is
00:48:36.820 why Kaepernick
00:48:37.640 took a knee
00:48:38.340 and we all
00:48:39.320 condemned it.
00:48:40.640 I am prepared
00:48:41.920 to believe that
00:48:43.060 but that's not
00:48:44.820 in evidence.
00:48:46.280 Because what's
00:48:47.120 not in evidence
00:48:47.900 is how many
00:48:48.840 white people
00:48:51.060 have been
00:48:51.580 killed by
00:48:52.360 police.
00:48:53.620 I think you'd
00:48:54.740 find that there
00:48:56.180 are more white
00:48:56.760 people getting
00:48:57.280 murdered by police
00:48:58.300 than black
00:48:59.120 even as a
00:48:59.820 percentage of
00:49:00.440 stops.
00:49:01.700 I think you'd
00:49:02.480 find that.
00:49:03.680 So if this
00:49:04.880 was a story
00:49:05.520 of oh there
00:49:06.320 it is again
00:49:06.940 only black
00:49:08.220 people are
00:49:08.720 killed by
00:49:09.180 police,
00:49:10.320 well I would
00:49:10.680 totally agree
00:49:11.240 with you.
00:49:12.220 In that case
00:49:12.960 I'd say
00:49:13.620 Kaepernick was
00:49:14.440 completely right,
00:49:16.180 should be
00:49:16.560 looked into.
00:49:17.420 Now from day
00:49:18.160 one I said
00:49:18.940 it's a big
00:49:20.620 issue and we
00:49:21.320 should look
00:49:21.660 into it and
00:49:22.140 take it
00:49:22.440 seriously.
00:49:22.960 So I've
00:49:23.260 always been
00:49:24.220 pro-Kaepernick
00:49:25.280 in terms of
00:49:26.720 surfacing the
00:49:27.780 issue.
00:49:28.020 the way he
00:49:29.740 did it you
00:49:30.240 could argue
00:49:30.680 blah blah
00:49:31.120 but in
00:49:32.140 terms of
00:49:32.600 surfacing an
00:49:33.300 issue that
00:49:33.720 is of great
00:49:34.220 concern to
00:49:34.900 a lot of
00:49:35.260 people he
00:49:36.120 did a good
00:49:36.500 job on it.
00:49:38.160 But the
00:49:39.280 part that's
00:49:39.700 missing is
00:49:40.900 that I'm
00:49:41.220 not sure
00:49:41.560 this is a
00:49:42.060 race problem.
00:49:43.760 It might
00:49:44.160 be.
00:49:45.380 I'd be open
00:49:46.140 to some data
00:49:46.900 that would
00:49:47.300 suggest that
00:49:47.960 is true but
00:49:49.120 it looks like
00:49:49.760 a police
00:49:50.360 training problem
00:49:51.560 on top of
00:49:53.080 maybe some
00:49:53.680 bad apples,
00:49:54.820 on top of
00:49:55.300 the media
00:49:55.700 likes to
00:49:56.240 spin it a
00:49:56.880 different way.
00:49:57.820 It looks like
00:49:58.480 a problem
00:49:58.860 for all of
00:49:59.420 us.
00:50:01.320 You missed
00:50:01.980 the hat?
00:50:03.960 You misread
00:50:04.940 the hat,
00:50:06.140 Scott.
00:50:07.340 I didn't
00:50:08.080 misread any
00:50:08.840 hats.
00:50:10.800 Maybe you
00:50:11.520 joined us
00:50:12.020 late but I
00:50:13.220 know what I
00:50:13.720 didn't do is
00:50:14.460 misread any
00:50:15.260 hats.
00:50:19.820 Somebody says
00:50:20.580 Scott is
00:50:21.000 wrong.
00:50:21.520 Twitter made
00:50:22.120 a new
00:50:22.500 excuse with
00:50:23.860 revising the
00:50:24.820 correction.
00:50:26.460 How do you
00:50:26.900 know?
00:50:27.500 Is that
00:50:27.840 based on
00:50:28.700 your mind
00:50:29.140 reading?
00:50:30.580 I think
00:50:31.360 it's
00:50:31.540 completely
00:50:32.920 fair to
00:50:33.580 suspect
00:50:34.080 things of
00:50:34.800 people.
00:50:36.060 But if
00:50:36.460 you're saying
00:50:36.920 I can
00:50:37.820 read Twitter's
00:50:38.700 minds and
00:50:39.920 what they
00:50:40.260 did was
00:50:40.900 they really
00:50:42.020 wanted to
00:50:42.620 just fact
00:50:43.120 check the
00:50:43.500 president in
00:50:44.120 general but
00:50:45.500 they're backing
00:50:46.980 up and
00:50:47.540 they're trying
00:50:48.300 to sell it
00:50:49.040 like they
00:50:49.460 really only
00:50:50.020 meant to
00:50:50.500 fact check
00:50:51.160 the fact.
00:50:52.080 you can't
00:50:55.120 rule it
00:50:55.500 in and
00:50:55.800 you can't
00:50:56.160 rule it
00:50:56.520 out because
00:50:57.620 you don't
00:50:57.980 know what
00:50:58.260 people are
00:50:58.760 privately
00:50:59.540 thinking but
00:51:01.000 is it
00:51:01.540 completely
00:51:02.380 consistent with
00:51:04.360 everything we
00:51:04.920 observe that
00:51:06.140 what they
00:51:06.540 intended was
00:51:07.860 to get rid
00:51:08.640 of that
00:51:08.860 just voting
00:51:09.420 fact that
00:51:10.200 may have
00:51:11.240 caused
00:51:11.460 people to
00:51:11.840 vote less.
00:51:13.220 Their story
00:51:13.980 is consistent
00:51:14.640 with observation.
00:51:15.920 That's the
00:51:16.240 only thing
00:51:16.500 you know.
00:51:17.600 You don't
00:51:17.920 know what
00:51:18.400 they're
00:51:18.560 thinking.
00:51:23.000 The way
00:51:23.660 he did it
00:51:24.280 was the
00:51:24.640 main reason
00:51:25.160 he got
00:51:25.540 the push
00:51:25.960 back.
00:51:28.120 You mean
00:51:28.860 are you
00:51:29.080 talking about
00:51:29.480 Jack?
00:51:31.100 I think
00:51:31.840 I feel as
00:51:33.300 if Twitter
00:51:34.060 would agree
00:51:35.620 with the
00:51:36.120 public
00:51:36.540 that the
00:51:38.060 first
00:51:38.480 attempt
00:51:41.020 to do
00:51:41.800 a fact
00:51:42.840 check
00:51:43.060 I think
00:51:43.400 they would
00:51:43.680 agree it
00:51:44.060 didn't
00:51:44.260 work.
00:51:45.700 So if
00:51:46.380 you're
00:51:47.020 arguing
00:51:47.400 hey Twitter
00:51:48.140 that didn't
00:51:48.660 work
00:51:49.080 well you're
00:51:50.380 just agreeing
00:51:50.840 with them.
00:51:52.240 They observed
00:51:53.000 the same
00:51:53.380 thing you
00:51:53.680 observed.
00:51:54.300 It didn't
00:51:54.580 work.
00:51:55.600 So it
00:51:55.900 looks like
00:51:56.220 they're
00:51:56.380 changing it.
00:51:57.340 So let
00:51:57.740 them change
00:51:58.140 it.
00:51:59.000 Give them
00:51:59.420 a little
00:51:59.940 bit of
00:52:00.220 space
00:52:00.620 because
00:52:01.680 they may
00:52:02.360 be heading
00:52:02.700 in the
00:52:02.960 right direction.
00:52:03.620 You'll have
00:52:03.840 plenty of
00:52:04.220 time to
00:52:04.520 complain.
00:52:07.440 The
00:52:07.600 dude's
00:52:08.020 hat said
00:52:08.460 make America
00:52:09.100 white again.
00:52:10.320 You
00:52:10.600 sound like
00:52:11.300 you are
00:52:11.620 in the
00:52:12.180 you have
00:52:15.360 a
00:52:15.680 you're
00:52:17.180 poorly
00:52:17.480 educated
00:52:18.020 if you
00:52:18.460 believe
00:52:18.820 that
00:52:19.100 that
00:52:19.360 was
00:52:19.520 the
00:52:19.720 policeman.
00:52:20.420 So let
00:52:21.120 me say
00:52:21.400 if anybody
00:52:21.880 joined
00:52:22.280 late
00:52:22.580 the photo
00:52:23.640 of the
00:52:24.080 policeman
00:52:24.500 wearing
00:52:25.060 a hat
00:52:25.680 with the
00:52:26.720 racist
00:52:27.000 thing on
00:52:27.640 it is
00:52:28.360 not the
00:52:28.840 same
00:52:29.060 person
00:52:29.380 as the
00:52:29.740 policeman.
00:52:30.600 It is
00:52:31.140 now known
00:52:31.880 beyond a
00:52:32.480 doubt
00:52:32.720 it's a
00:52:33.280 different
00:52:33.500 person
00:52:33.900 in that
00:52:34.380 picture.
00:52:35.340 We know
00:52:35.660 who the
00:52:35.960 other
00:52:36.140 person
00:52:36.460 is.
00:52:37.300 He
00:52:37.600 has a
00:52:37.880 long
00:52:38.080 history.
00:52:38.840 He's a
00:52:39.180 well-known
00:52:39.560 character.
00:52:40.720 It's not
00:52:41.240 him.
00:52:41.500 So if
00:52:43.320 you believe
00:52:44.340 that that
00:52:45.300 guy in
00:52:45.640 the hat
00:52:46.140 was the
00:52:47.040 police
00:52:47.320 officer
00:52:47.740 then you
00:52:49.400 are poorly
00:52:49.960 educated.
00:52:51.380 Now I
00:52:51.580 don't mean
00:52:51.880 in terms
00:52:52.220 of college
00:52:52.660 or school.
00:52:53.880 You're
00:52:54.060 poorly
00:52:54.360 educated
00:52:54.880 because it
00:52:55.360 means you've
00:52:55.760 only been
00:52:56.080 looking at
00:52:56.520 one side
00:52:57.340 of the
00:52:57.780 political
00:52:59.280 conversation.
00:53:00.580 If you
00:53:00.940 had looked
00:53:01.240 at both
00:53:01.600 sides
00:53:02.100 it's
00:53:03.800 very
00:53:04.280 available
00:53:04.760 information
00:53:05.380 that that's
00:53:05.920 a fake
00:53:06.240 picture.
00:53:06.800 It's
00:53:06.880 very
00:53:07.200 available.
00:53:08.600 So if
00:53:09.600 you didn't
00:53:09.940 know it
00:53:10.380 ask yourself
00:53:11.740 if you're
00:53:12.160 following the
00:53:12.680 right people
00:53:13.080 on social
00:53:13.540 media.
00:53:14.680 Ask yourself
00:53:15.240 if maybe
00:53:15.640 you should
00:53:15.960 sample the
00:53:16.480 other side
00:53:16.900 and see
00:53:17.140 what's
00:53:17.340 going on.
00:53:21.600 Trump
00:53:22.120 did not
00:53:22.520 say
00:53:22.760 registration
00:53:23.500 is not
00:53:24.240 needed.
00:53:25.000 That was
00:53:25.260 misinterpreted
00:53:26.280 by Jack.
00:53:27.860 I disagree
00:53:28.920 with your
00:53:29.360 statement
00:53:29.720 because the
00:53:31.160 fact that
00:53:31.740 it was
00:53:32.240 ambiguous
00:53:33.940 is all
00:53:35.680 that Twitter
00:53:36.640 needed.
00:53:37.540 If it
00:53:38.160 was ambiguous
00:53:38.980 it was still
00:53:39.860 worth the
00:53:40.200 fact.
00:53:40.380 check.
00:53:41.380 And I
00:53:41.860 read it
00:53:42.260 as
00:53:42.500 ambiguous.
00:53:43.880 So you
00:53:44.440 are technically
00:53:45.460 correct that
00:53:47.040 the president
00:53:47.560 did not
00:53:48.380 state as a
00:53:49.400 positive
00:53:49.900 statement
00:53:50.320 you don't
00:53:50.760 need to
00:53:51.100 register
00:53:51.480 and you
00:53:52.280 can still
00:53:52.580 get one
00:53:52.860 of these.
00:53:53.120 He did
00:53:53.340 not say
00:53:53.680 that directly
00:53:54.340 but I
00:53:55.700 also read
00:53:56.300 it as
00:53:56.840 oh you
00:53:57.740 can see
00:53:58.100 it that
00:53:58.340 way.
00:53:59.120 I can
00:53:59.320 see that
00:53:59.620 you can
00:53:59.820 see it
00:54:00.020 that way.
00:54:04.140 So he
00:54:04.780 says let's
00:54:05.280 face it
00:54:06.340 80% of
00:54:06.960 Americans
00:54:07.400 don't give
00:54:08.000 a shit
00:54:08.480 about this.
00:54:09.360 That's true
00:54:09.780 for most
00:54:10.160 things.
00:54:11.740 Somebody
00:54:12.300 says he
00:54:12.900 didn't say
00:54:13.420 that idiot.
00:54:14.860 I don't
00:54:15.520 know who's
00:54:15.880 the idiot
00:54:16.180 but
00:54:16.580 the hat
00:54:22.460 actually said
00:54:23.220 that but
00:54:23.960 not the
00:54:24.520 cop.
00:54:25.420 I know
00:54:25.680 what that
00:54:25.960 oh the hat
00:54:27.260 said okay
00:54:28.040 got it.
00:54:28.920 so somebody
00:54:30.200 was correcting
00:54:30.860 me on
00:54:31.160 what the
00:54:31.500 hat said
00:54:32.140 it did
00:54:34.440 not say
00:54:35.240 MAGA on
00:54:35.740 the hat
00:54:35.960 but it
00:54:37.240 was a
00:54:37.480 red hat
00:54:37.920 so that
00:54:39.320 is correct.
00:54:39.920 so all
00:54:44.320 right I'm
00:54:44.600 hearing you
00:54:45.020 in the
00:54:45.260 comments
00:54:45.580 you were
00:54:45.880 trying to
00:54:46.260 tell me
00:54:46.620 that it
00:54:47.200 wasn't
00:54:47.700 you were
00:54:49.800 not telling
00:54:50.460 me you
00:54:50.680 were confused
00:54:51.140 about who
00:54:51.600 it was
00:54:52.020 you were
00:54:53.300 correcting me
00:54:53.980 about the
00:54:54.460 statement on
00:54:55.140 the hat
00:54:55.580 so I
00:54:56.040 take that
00:54:56.600 correction
00:54:56.960 as
00:54:57.500 correct.
00:54:58.900 so you
00:55:03.380 can stop
00:55:04.040 correcting me
00:55:05.020 because I
00:55:05.640 accept that
00:55:06.380 correction.
00:55:09.660 Somebody
00:55:10.220 says Scott
00:55:10.800 was poorly
00:55:11.280 educated when
00:55:12.100 he saw the
00:55:12.540 Covington
00:55:13.000 kids video.
00:55:14.280 No that
00:55:14.720 is a
00:55:15.180 incorrect
00:55:15.900 that is an
00:55:17.220 incorrect use
00:55:17.960 of the term
00:55:18.500 poorly educated.
00:55:20.320 The both
00:55:20.960 sides the
00:55:21.800 left and the
00:55:22.320 right reported
00:55:23.060 the Covington
00:55:23.740 kids the same
00:55:24.340 way.
00:55:25.220 So if you
00:55:25.800 were fully
00:55:26.560 educated and
00:55:27.380 you'd seen
00:55:27.760 all the news
00:55:28.540 coverage you
00:55:29.160 would still
00:55:29.480 be wrong
00:55:30.080 but not
00:55:31.840 because you
00:55:32.300 didn't sample
00:55:32.840 all the
00:55:33.140 coverage.
00:55:34.180 So you
00:55:34.520 can still
00:55:34.880 be wrong
00:55:35.400 even looking
00:55:36.000 at all
00:55:36.320 the news
00:55:36.840 if they
00:55:37.940 both get
00:55:38.380 it wrong.
00:55:41.860 The ballots
00:55:42.680 are sent
00:55:43.020 to addresses
00:55:43.560 not voters
00:55:44.540 no verification
00:55:45.440 needed.
00:55:46.680 Yeah I'm
00:55:47.840 you labeled
00:55:54.380 your podcast
00:55:55.160 with my name
00:55:55.940 Kent
00:55:56.360 Heckel
00:55:56.900 Lively
00:55:57.240 did I
00:55:59.640 somebody says
00:56:03.080 Jack Dorsey
00:56:03.740 is a
00:56:04.100 leftist
00:56:04.620 don't trust
00:56:05.880 the
00:56:06.120 control
00:56:06.500 police.
00:56:07.860 Let me
00:56:08.040 tell you
00:56:08.460 a myth
00:56:09.540 that
00:56:10.960 that
00:56:12.660 many people
00:56:13.600 on the
00:56:13.880 right are
00:56:14.240 under.
00:56:15.200 There's this
00:56:15.920 weird myth
00:56:16.680 that there's
00:56:17.860 somebody on
00:56:18.420 the left
00:56:18.760 who doesn't
00:56:19.180 like freedom.
00:56:21.820 I don't think
00:56:22.640 that's true.
00:56:23.640 I don't think
00:56:24.040 there's anybody
00:56:24.860 on the left
00:56:25.440 who only
00:56:26.600 wants control
00:56:27.540 and they
00:56:28.860 want to
00:56:29.140 limit your
00:56:29.540 freedom
00:56:29.840 and they
00:56:30.480 need to
00:56:30.880 be your
00:56:32.200 mommy
00:56:32.460 and tell
00:56:32.800 you what
00:56:33.060 to do.
00:56:33.500 That's just
00:56:34.060 bullshit.
00:56:35.360 There's not
00:56:36.160 anybody like
00:56:36.880 that.
00:56:38.120 There are
00:56:38.560 certainly
00:56:38.780 people who
00:56:39.180 have political
00:56:39.700 preferences
00:56:40.240 and there
00:56:40.720 are lots
00:56:40.920 of individual
00:56:41.500 things that
00:56:42.060 seem to sum
00:56:42.740 up to that
00:56:43.240 but no
00:56:43.920 there's
00:56:44.140 nobody
00:56:44.460 who's
00:56:44.720 saying
00:56:44.980 I want
00:56:45.600 to control
00:56:46.780 people.
00:56:48.360 All I care
00:56:48.980 about is
00:56:49.300 control.
00:56:50.880 That's not
00:56:51.380 a real
00:56:51.620 thing.
00:56:57.460 See the
00:56:58.140 lady
00:56:58.420 Newsom said
00:56:59.800 everyone will
00:57:00.500 be mailed
00:57:01.120 a ballot.
00:57:04.120 So
00:57:04.640 there are
00:57:06.020 there are
00:57:06.820 two questions
00:57:07.400 here.
00:57:08.240 One is
00:57:08.800 whether
00:57:09.240 Twitter's
00:57:11.320 fact check
00:57:11.760 was correct
00:57:12.480 and the
00:57:13.460 other is
00:57:13.800 whether it
00:57:14.380 was legitimate
00:57:14.960 to try to
00:57:15.680 do a
00:57:15.920 fact check
00:57:16.340 on that
00:57:16.740 point.
00:57:18.260 I think
00:57:18.560 it's
00:57:18.700 legitimate
00:57:19.040 to do
00:57:19.380 a fact
00:57:19.700 check
00:57:19.900 on the
00:57:20.180 point
00:57:20.560 but whether
00:57:22.040 they got
00:57:22.360 it right
00:57:22.640 or not
00:57:23.040 that's why
00:57:23.660 you show
00:57:23.960 both sides.
00:57:25.060 That's the
00:57:25.440 whole point
00:57:25.980 of making
00:57:26.480 sure that
00:57:26.880 you surface
00:57:27.360 arguments
00:57:28.080 on both
00:57:28.440 sides.
00:57:31.100 The poorly
00:57:33.260 educated only
00:57:34.060 took the
00:57:34.400 initial
00:57:34.720 Covington
00:57:35.180 report and
00:57:35.700 ran with
00:57:36.000 it.
00:57:36.720 Now I'm
00:57:37.420 going to
00:57:37.600 start
00:57:37.860 I think
00:57:38.960 I'll just
00:57:39.260 start
00:57:39.660 blocking
00:57:41.300 anybody
00:57:41.820 who says
00:57:42.340 the
00:57:42.540 Covington
00:57:43.100 situation
00:57:43.860 is similar
00:57:45.000 to the
00:57:45.340 poorly
00:57:45.580 educated.
00:57:46.420 Those are
00:57:47.000 not in
00:57:47.540 any way
00:57:47.860 related.
00:57:49.240 The poorly
00:57:49.660 educated
00:57:50.280 again is
00:57:51.740 if you
00:57:52.080 if you've
00:57:52.580 only looked
00:57:53.000 at one
00:57:53.440 silo
00:57:54.000 and not
00:57:54.880 the other
00:57:55.340 news silo
00:57:56.320 you would
00:57:56.660 be poorly
00:57:57.100 educated.
00:57:57.740 You'd be
00:57:57.980 half educated.
00:57:59.280 But if you
00:57:59.800 look at them
00:58:00.280 both and
00:58:01.660 they tell you
00:58:02.060 the same
00:58:02.420 news and
00:58:03.620 it's wrong
00:58:04.240 that's not
00:58:05.580 poorly
00:58:05.900 educated.
00:58:06.600 That's just
00:58:06.940 the news
00:58:07.380 was wrong.
00:58:09.660 Somebody
00:58:10.220 said you
00:58:10.620 were like
00:58:10.980 that.
00:58:13.420 Somebody
00:58:13.900 says you
00:58:14.380 were like
00:58:14.740 that just
00:58:15.200 before I
00:58:15.580 blocked
00:58:15.840 them.
00:58:18.440 Let's
00:58:18.900 see if
00:58:20.680 anybody else
00:58:21.140 wants to
00:58:21.480 get blocked.
00:58:26.100 Nope
00:58:26.580 you're wrong
00:58:27.060 on that.
00:58:27.800 They just
00:58:28.160 don't say
00:58:28.580 it out
00:58:28.840 loud.
00:58:29.840 I'm going
00:58:30.120 to block
00:58:30.480 you for
00:58:31.120 being a
00:58:31.460 mind reader.
00:58:33.380 So whoever
00:58:33.960 says that they
00:58:34.600 can read the
00:58:35.060 minds of
00:58:35.460 strangers we
00:58:36.180 don't need
00:58:36.520 to hear.
00:58:37.540 Anybody
00:58:37.800 else?
00:58:38.200 Anybody
00:58:40.040 else need
00:58:40.500 a block?
00:58:41.740 Have you
00:58:42.080 ever studied
00:58:42.580 communism?
00:58:46.180 I don't
00:58:46.780 know where
00:58:47.000 that question
00:58:47.500 is going.
00:58:48.720 Control
00:58:49.160 is a real
00:58:49.860 thing.
00:58:51.340 Yeah.
00:58:52.080 Control
00:58:52.520 is a real
00:58:53.100 thing and
00:58:54.120 you just
00:58:54.520 got blocked.
00:58:58.420 Yeah.
00:58:59.200 It's just
00:58:59.760 not a
00:59:00.220 argument
00:59:02.200 that's
00:59:02.740 I don't
00:59:03.780 even want
00:59:04.100 to be
00:59:04.280 around it.
00:59:04.900 It's just
00:59:05.200 so useless.
00:59:08.200 In the
00:59:08.880 real world
00:59:09.400 people have
00:59:10.120 individual
00:59:10.700 goals and
00:59:11.660 they have
00:59:11.860 individual
00:59:12.340 things they
00:59:13.420 want but
00:59:14.380 nobody is
00:59:14.900 like fighting
00:59:15.500 for the
00:59:16.000 concept of
00:59:16.620 control.
00:59:17.580 It's not
00:59:17.960 a thing.
00:59:22.940 Are there
00:59:23.620 really both
00:59:24.180 sides to
00:59:24.860 facts?
00:59:26.760 Well there
00:59:27.440 are in the
00:59:28.020 sense that we
00:59:28.680 can't agree
00:59:29.180 on them so
00:59:29.860 yes.
00:59:30.220 all right
00:59:38.780 so somebody
00:59:39.940 here putting
00:59:41.000 thoughts into
00:59:41.840 my head.
00:59:42.680 You get a
00:59:42.980 block.
00:59:44.240 It's okay to
00:59:45.000 say your
00:59:45.380 thoughts.
00:59:46.300 I always
00:59:46.840 welcome your
00:59:47.520 opinions but
00:59:48.960 what I block
00:59:49.800 for is when
00:59:50.560 people tell me
00:59:51.320 my opinion.
00:59:52.600 You don't
00:59:53.300 need to tell
00:59:53.720 me my
00:59:54.100 opinion in
00:59:54.860 public.
00:59:55.900 I'm the
00:59:56.280 only one who
00:59:56.700 gets to say
00:59:57.160 that.
00:59:57.480 If you
00:59:59.440 tell me my
01:00:00.060 opinion you
01:00:00.700 get blocked.
01:00:01.680 I can tell
01:00:02.480 you my
01:00:03.240 opinion and
01:00:04.160 you can tell
01:00:04.620 me your
01:00:04.940 opinion and
01:00:05.520 you'll never
01:00:05.840 get blocked
01:00:06.280 for that.
01:00:07.780 Unless it's
01:00:08.540 some kind of
01:00:09.280 weird Nazi
01:00:09.800 thing.
01:00:11.280 All right.
01:00:15.900 Somebody says
01:00:16.600 I love your
01:00:17.100 anger.
01:00:17.920 Yeah I
01:00:19.200 never would
01:00:19.700 have anticipated
01:00:20.740 that my
01:00:22.040 anger would
01:00:24.580 be a selling
01:00:25.160 point but
01:00:26.360 it's
01:00:27.460 all right one
01:00:31.080 of your
01:00:31.240 comments is
01:00:31.800 funny.
01:00:32.720 All right
01:00:32.880 that's enough.
01:00:33.680 I got nothing
01:00:34.200 left.
01:00:34.620 I'll talk to
01:00:34.980 you tonight.
01:00:35.900 See you then.