Episode 1022 Scott Adams： Dale the Anti-Trumper Explains Defunding the Police. Antifa, Free Speech I Don't Have and More
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In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, host Scott Adams talks about the recent riots in Ferguson, Missouri, and why he doesn t have a freedom of speech. He also talks about his recent trip to a restaurant and the freedom of movement that comes with it.
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now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything
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better, including the pandemic, including the riots, including racial strife. Yeah, it does.
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It's the simultaneous sip and it happens now. Go.
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Hmm. Yep. Temperature's going down. Well, the news is just full of little nuggets for us to discuss.
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But first, I must tell you this little bit of good news. Don't you like to start with the good
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news? Well, maybe it wasn't good news for you, but it is for me. So yesterday was my birthday and
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went out to dinner. I went to, I know this is hard to believe, a restaurant. Have you heard of those?
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It's a place you go to. They prepare the food for you. They'll bring it to a table.
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They'll serve it to you. And all you have to do is pay money. It's a really good business model. I
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think it's going to catch on. And while the restaurants in my town are not open, the county,
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one county over, the restaurants were open for outdoor seating. So I got to have my first outdoor
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seating restaurant experience since, I don't know. I don't remember the last time I went to a
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restaurant. January, maybe? And I can't tell you how happy I was. Oh, my God. It was just
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this little feeling of normality, this little feeling of freedom. Just take a drive, stop at
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a restaurant. Have food. It was incredible. So let me tell you this. If you have not yet
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experienced the freedom of, you know, a little bit of freedom of movement from the coronavirus,
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when you do, when you do, it's as good as you think. It's going to be just as good as you
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think. Really, really good. So look forward to that.
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Now, there's a lot of the news that I can't talk about today. As you know, as a white man
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in America, I don't have free speech the way lots of other people do. Now, should I ever
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have free speech? What I'd love to do is try to help with the police situation and the racial
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strife. I can sort of talk around the edges, but since I'm not allowed to mention any data
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and I'm not allowed to actually give a, you know, a real honest opinion on anything,
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I can only sort of talk about it around the edges and we'll do that today. Now, because
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I don't have freedom of speech, that was one of several motivations for making an announcement
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now. You ready? Announcement time. I've made a small investment in the locals platform. Now,
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I've told you before that I'm moving a lot of my content, especially the stuff that I don't show
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other places, over to locals, locals.com. And that's a subscription service, so I can't be
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canceled. So because I have no freedom of speech, not in any practical sense, I mean, the government
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obviously lets me say anything I want. But in terms of society, the way it's organized, in a practical
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sense, I don't have freedom of speech. But I could do a lot more within locals because the odds of me
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being canceled there are low. And because it's only people who want to hear what I have to say. So it's
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self-selecting. But beyond that, I can't be kicked off that platform just for having an opinion.
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So my source of income would not be threatened should I decide to express my free speech.
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So that's at least one place that I can go and have an opinion. And by the way, I'm not talking
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about any kind of offensive opinions whatsoever. I don't have any opinions that in my opinion would
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be the least bit offensive if I could say them. But we don't have the kind of freedom of speech
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where you can say inoffensive things if somebody just has a different opinion. So that's going on.
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All right. Did you watch, did any of you try to watch CNN last night? I tell you this all the time,
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and there's no joke to this at all. I watch CNN for the laughs. And sometimes it's really funny.
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Last night was amazing. So as you know, the protesters have sort of cumulatively come up
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with this idea of defunding the police. And in fact, Minneapolis has the votes to do that. Looks
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like the city council wants to, at least some of them, want to defund the police.
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Now, as you might imagine, given that it's an election year, in an election year, do you think
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that the professionals, let's say the professional news people of CNN, the professional Democratic
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advisors, the professional Democrats who have held office before at a high level, do you think any of
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them think it's a good idea to be anti-police in an election year? I doubt it. I doubt any of the
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professionals think that's a good idea. And you can see that in play hilariously as CNN tried to coach
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its, they literally were trying to coach their guests to say the right thing because they were saying the
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wrong thing so far. And they were trying to coach them into explaining what defunding the police
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means. And I could go through the various examples. So there was the, let's see, you had the,
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let's see, you had the, well, a lot of people weighed in. You had the mayor of something who had one
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opinion. Oh yeah. So you had the council president, Lisa Bender. She had one opinion.
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There's the DC mayor, Muriel Bowser. There's Yamiche Elsendor, who had some things to say about it.
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NAACP, John Oliver. He was talking about it last night. Here's what's interesting about all the people
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who are explaining to us what defund the police means. They all have different explanations.
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And I thought the easiest way to kind of cover this territory is by interviewing Dale, the anti-Trumper.
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So if you haven't met Dale, Dale is, well, Dale just doesn't like President Trump. And whatever position
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President Trump takes, you can find Dale on the other side. But sometimes it's harder than other times
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because sometimes the other side is a little bit murky. So I thought I would just interview Dale
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and find out. So Dale, I know you're very anti-Trump, which doesn't matter, of course, because we're
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not talking about that. We're just talking about this defund the police thing. How does that work?
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If you defund the police, who would you call if you had, let's say, a home break? For example,
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who would you call? Well, well, you, I hear what you say, and I acknowledge it, and I value your opinion.
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In that case, you would call your white privilege. And good luck with that, your white privilege. Just call
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your white privilege. Dale, I don't have a number for my white privilege. And my white privilege is
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not armed. And I think you're giving me advice that would cause me to be slain by armed intruders.
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Sounds like what you're saying. Well, look who's so concerned about his white privilege life.
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See how it feels. How does it feel now? Okay, Dale, I hear what you're saying, but
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this isn't helping me. Like, how do you, how do you help the community? And, and what does it really
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mean to defund the police? You mean no police at all? No. Oh, you're so confused. When I say
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defund the police, I mean it the way Joe Biden explains it. For example, Joe Biden says, we don't
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want to defund the police. We want to take money away from them. If they're not doing what we want
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them to do, which would be, if I may use his exact words, if they don't meet certain basic standards
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of decency and honorableness. Clear? Very clear. Well, Dale, so, so the idea is not to take money away
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from the police, but rather to not give money to the police that you would normally give them?
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Exactly. Well, Dale, that sounds a lot like defunding the police. I mean, at least from a federal level,
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as Joe Biden is talking about it. No, that's the, taking money from the police, that's nothing like
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defunding the police. What kind of stupid bubble are you in over in there, Fox News, stupid fool?
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Okay, Dale, still trying to understand this. So what about all the functions of the police?
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You know, the part where they have to, you know, face down an armed robber, for example.
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Who would do that? Scott, Scott, Scott. We're not talking about getting rid of the police.
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Who told you that? Some right-wing conspirator? Conspiracy theory person? No, defund the police
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doesn't mean get rid of all the police. I don't even know what you're thinking. What it means
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is that for those police functions, such as, let's say, a call if you have somebody who has
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mental health problems. You would send a non-police person instead of the police. And then the non-police
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person, who would not have a gun, could not kill anybody with their, with their gun. So better,
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much better. All right, all right. I kind of almost understand that, but here's the part I don't
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understand. Would the situations that you're sending an unarmed person who's not a police
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officer, are you sending him into situations that were peaceful and calm and didn't really
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have much opportunity for trouble in the first place? That's right. That's exactly right.
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Okay, but Dale, were those the situations in which people were getting killed? Because it sounds
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to me like the part you're defunding is all the stuff that wasn't a problem in the first
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place. That's racist. I don't know how that's racist. I'm literally just talking about budget
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categories. That's it. That's it. Well, it looks like you've been listening to a little bit
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too much Tucker Carlson, if you know what I mean. I don't know what you mean. I do not know
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what you mean. Racist. And scene. All right. So that pretty much covers the entire territory.
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The people who actually know what they're doing are panicked because this whole defund the
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police thing, there's just no way to spin this into a positive. So, but it turns out that
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you think it's crazy, right? Don't you think it's kind of crazy to defund the police? But there's
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actually a town, was it in New Jersey, that actually disbanded their police department.
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Can you believe that? Yeah. There was an actual town that disbanded its police department. And
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I might have to bring Dale back to explain what it means to get rid of your police. And
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it hasn't worked out that poorly. If you check back, they got rid of the police department
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and it's not that bad. And let Dale explain to you how they did it. Dale, can you explain
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that town that did get rid of, I guess it was a few years ago, that got rid of their entire
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police department and it seems to be working okay. How did they do that? Well, let me explain
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The way it works is you take the police department and you get rid of them all. Get rid of all
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of them. Step one. Step two, you create a police department to replace them. Get it? No. I thought
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you were getting rid of the police department. Are you saying they got rid of the police department
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department and then replace them with a police department? Is that the same as getting rid
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of the police? Well, okay. I guess I have to explain everything. Let's, let's get into
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the details. You know, I was just going to, I assumed you were smart enough to understand
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what I was talking about, but we'll dig into the details. They get rid of the entire police
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force. You get that, right? Do you understand that yet? Yes, I do. Okay. All right. Hold
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that thought. They get rid of the total police department. Then they replace it with the police
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department. Are you following? Are you following this at all? No, I'm not. All right. Well, one
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other fact that you need to know that will explain this. You get rid of the police department,
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you replace them with the police department, but you don't call them the police department.
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You arm them, you give them uniforms, but they're not police. They're just not. We just call them
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something else. Pretty good. All right. All right. We'll talk later. So you can't say it hasn't been
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tried and worked. It totally worked when they got rid of the police department and replaced it with
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the police department. Now the, the, the story just below that level. Yeah. The story below that
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level is, um, that the existing police department they got rid of was so corrupt that they couldn't
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fix it. It was actually so corrupt. They're like, we can't even fix this. So basically it was a trick
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to fire all the police. So it wasn't really defunding the police. They were just corrupt. So they
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wanted to get rid of them all. So they just changed the name. Coincidentally, that is exactly the
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topic of my comic in Dilbert yesterday. It was either yesterday or the day before it was exactly
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that. Oh no. Yeah. We're, we're going to get rid of the police with, and then replace them with
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police. All right. The president of the NCAA, NAACP won't even back the defund the police thing
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because the president doesn't know what it means. The president of the NAACP. Apparently, uh,
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the president, Derek Johnson, um, he backs the energy behind it, but he didn't know what it was
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exactly because everybody's got a different idea. Um, so you got that. The funniest was when
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Queer Scoma was, was interviewing. You should actually see this. So I tweeted this yesterday.
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You can find it in my Twitter feed. So he was interviewing Lisa Bender, the Minneapolis city
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president, uh, council president. And so she was talking about what it means to get rid of the
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police. And she said that was more aspirational. Uh, but she wouldn't say that until Chris Cuomo
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just badgered her to say it was aspirational. He kept, he kept trying to give her an out. Well,
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you don't mean get rid of the police. You know, you don't mean you could right away. You know,
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he kept like, he kept trying to nudge her. And then finally he was just shoving her,
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just shoving her, say aspirational, please. I can't let you go until you say the word.
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Just say the word, just say aspirational, please, please just say aspirational. And then I think
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she used the word and he was okay with it. Then they could live. They could go on. John Oliver
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desperately tried to explain it away by saying that only the stuff that wasn't dangerous in the
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first place would move to other agencies. And I'm thinking to myself, does he think nobody's going
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to notice that the stuff they want to take away from police was the stuff that didn't, nobody got
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hurt with anyway, unless it was some weird, tragic situation. All right. Now on the productive side
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of things, it turns out that there's some legislation from the Democrats, I think primarily Democrats on,
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it's called the justice and policing act. I think Kamala Harris and a bunch of others are involved in
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this. And here are the things on the list. Now see if, see if you would have any disagreement with
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anything on this list, because it's being, it's being presented as just sort of common sense stuff
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that doesn't have any political element to it. See if you agree. Do these things that, are they just
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common sense or not? All right. So number one, no more chokeholds and carotid, I guess that's the
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carotid artery holds. So I think that's what would have kept George Floyd alive. No more no-knock
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warrants in drug cases. Deadly force may only be used as a last resort and officers must employ
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de-escalation techniques first. Are you telling me that's not already part of the police force?
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Is there, is there any part of the police force that allows the police to use deadly force
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before they've tried other things? I don't know. So the no-knock thing certainly makes sense.
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All right. Establishing a use of force standard and enabling the prosecution of police for reckless
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in addition to willful misconduct. So reckless, it's a sort of a hard-to-enforce standard,
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but I'm sure that the law has dealt with things like that before. So are you telling me that there's
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not already a use of force standard in the police department? Does that not exist already?
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I don't know. Enabling victims to recover civil damages by eliminating qualified immunity when
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police violate our constitutional rights. I think you'd have to be a lawyer and know a lot more about
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that to know the ins and outs of that. I mean, it sounds okay. I mean, on the surface. But I think
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somebody who knows more about this would have a deeper opinion. Improving the use of pattern and
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practice investigations. So pattern and practice, meaning looking for statistical signs of, I don't
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know, discrimination and racism, I guess. All right. How about establishing a first-ever national
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database on police misconduct? Where have you ever heard that idea before? Where was the first time you
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ever heard? Why don't we have a national database so that we can all be on the same page and we know
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exactly what's going on with all this police abuse and racism stuff? The first place you ever heard
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that was from me. Now, I'm not saying that they got the idea from me, but I'm pretty sure I'm the first
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person who sent it to you. I'd never heard of the idea before I was talking about it a few years ago.
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Okay. But I'm going to talk about that one in a minute. Let me go through the list. We'll get back to that
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database. Requiring local police to take equipment made for war off the streets. So not using any of the
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really expensive stuff. I don't know. Have we used it before? I got to tell you, I've never been the one who
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was too worried about the military equipment on the streets if they thought they needed it. Because I didn't think it
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was going to become a trend or something, you know, or become the beginning of some kind of a war or
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anything like that. But from a psychological perspective, I could see the benefit of not
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looking like you're a military dictatorship. It's worth talking about. All right. Requiring federal
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police to wear body cams. And for marked police vehicles to have dashboard cams. Marked federal
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police vehicles. So this is only federal police. So that's the only thing that can influence, not the
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state police. So I don't know if that makes any difference if it's only the federal police who have
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body cams. But let's get back to the database one. What's going to happen when there's a database
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of police behavior? What, how much racism are they going to find when there's a national standard
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database so they can find the, what's it called? The pattern and practice that identifies all the racism
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in the police department. How much are they going to find once they're actually tracking it in a
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standardized way? What do you think? Well, if I had freedom of speech, I could, I could dig into that,
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but I don't. So I won't. Um, here's what, uh, here's what's missing. What's missing is some kind of a
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standard for when, uh, suspects who are under police control ask for medical help? Because that
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feels like a big category that this ignores, right? What happens when the suspect is saying,
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I can't breathe, even if you're not using the choke holds and carotid holds. So even if you're not
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choking them, I don't think it's unusual for suspects to say, I can't breathe. I need medical help.
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So what do you do? That feels like that's not handled by these ideas. But here's, so here's
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the most important thing you need to know about this legislation. It wouldn't have any impact on
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the protests, would it? Was there anything on this list that would make the protesters happy?
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I don't think so, right? I don't think there's anything on this list that would make the protesters
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happy. So you've got the government and the Democrats working desperately to do something
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that looks useful. And they've created a list of things that sound pretty good.
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Got to say that I don't have a real, um, I don't have any knock whatsoever on their list.
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I think people who are smarter than I am should look at it, you know, especially the legal stuff,
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somebody who's got some police experience and tell, you know, tell us the pluses and minuses.
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Maybe the entire list won't make it through. So it looks like a good practical attempt to do
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something that would be useful, but it has, it has no implications for the protests. None of this
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stuff is going to make the protesters happy. Do you think it will? I can't imagine it would.
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So you have this weird world where solutions are being worked out that by their design
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couldn't make any difference. So, all right. Um,
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I've been wondering about how history will see President Trump's instincts. You know, he always
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famously talks about following his instincts and, um, and we've seen that with the coronavirus
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situation better than anything else. Cause the one thing that distinguishes the coronavirus
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is that all of our data was in question. I don't know if we, we, it's sort of a rare situation
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when everything that we heard about the coronavirus, everything we heard about the medical situation,
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what we should and should not do. It was just all wrong. Just everything was wrong. So he had to have, uh,
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Scott, you had a knockdown argument. Males versus females. Stops seems sexist. Oh yeah.
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Uh, yes, that was a, uh, I'll just change a topic for a moment. So it was Van Jones who said that the, uh,
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uh, the female leaders did such a better job than the male leaders on dealing with coronavirus. And I thought
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to myself, how's that not sexist? Really? How's that not sexist? Anyway, if that's another category of
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things that I'm not allowed to talk about, cause I don't have, I don't have functional freedom of
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speech. So that's another topic. Uh, but let's talk about Trump's instincts. So one of the things he did
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by instinct as much as anything else was close the airports when the experts said, no, I think his
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instinct on closing the airports was correct. Now he got criticized for not closing down the economy in
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time. When we look at this from a historical perspective, will we think that's still true
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that he should have closed, closed things sooner? I don't know because we opened up things when
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people thought it was too soon and it seems to be working out, isn't it? So if it, if we continue to
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open up and the people who said, oh no, it's going to be a second wave and the end of the world,
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if that doesn't materialize, then it's also going to be harder to argue that he should have closed
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sooner. Cause I think we're going to find that when you closed may not have the, quite the impact
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that you hoped it would have. So that's still an open question. Now, the other thing that Trump was
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pushing for is the reopening of the economy sooner than some of his critics wanted to open it. There
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were a lot of people on his side, but a lot of pushback. It looks like it's still early, but it
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looks like his instincts were right. That opening up just about now and pushing to, to make sure that
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there was some constructive force on the side of opening up. I think history is going to say he was
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right, right? So I think he was right on the airports, pure instinct. There was, there was no
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data to back him up on the airport closing. Experts said, don't do it. Did it anyway. Pure leadership
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and instinct and right. I think he was right on reopening. And then recently we saw that the two
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studies that said hydroxychloroquine were dangerous, were both withdrawn as being quacks. They were based on
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database, databases that have no credibility and look like they're just made up data. So Trump was
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right about hydroxychloroquine in terms of risk management. I'm not saying he's right that the drug
00:29:39.420
works, because I haven't seen the evidence of that yet. That convinces me. But he was certainly right that
00:29:45.460
the dangers had already been discounted by the fact that the drug had been available for decades.
00:29:51.260
Turns out those dangers were not true, according to any studies we've seen. In other words, we haven't
00:29:57.900
seen a study that says that he's wrong. Looks like his instinct was right on that too. But then there's
00:30:04.700
another thing that he gets right better than anybody in the world. Let's go to the whiteboard.
00:30:09.640
You know, I make this point a lot, that the economy floats on this cloud of psychology. The only thing
00:30:18.980
that keeps the economy working is the way we think about it. So if you didn't think things were going
00:30:24.740
to be good tomorrow, you wouldn't invest today. And if nobody invests today, tomorrow won't be good.
00:30:31.380
It's just this circular kind of psychological support that you have to have optimism, you have to think
00:30:39.680
things are going right. And so long as you don't have any shortages, you know, you're not running out of
00:30:44.940
anything that you need to keep the economy running. And we're not. We don't have any shortages of anything
00:30:50.140
in our economies, in the world. So you've got this very, let's say, vulnerable element here, the psychology.
00:31:00.100
Because psychology can change in an instant. You know, you can get a depression just instantly,
00:31:07.980
if people's psychology changed. Now, so that's the only thing that keeps the economy from falling
00:31:13.920
into the flames, is what we think about it. And what we think about it is driven entirely by persuasion.
00:31:20.760
And we watched the most remarkable thing happen. We watched the stock market reach levels that I
00:31:28.320
don't think too many people thought were possible at this stage of where we're at. It doesn't seem
00:31:34.840
possible that the stock market should be as high as it is. And but what it's telling you,
00:31:42.620
it's telling you that this level, the psychology is rock solid. That's what it's telling you. The
00:31:49.880
strength you saw in the stock market, I haven't seen how it's done today. I would expect it
00:31:54.240
to have at least some down days this week. It's got to pull back a little. All right, let's see. Yeah,
00:32:00.580
okay. So today, it's pulling back a little, just like you'd expect it to. I'd be, I would have been
00:32:05.380
amazed if it was up again today. That would have been incredible. So you expect it to be choppy.
00:32:12.920
But man, this psychology level to support the stock market where it is, given all the upheaval from the
00:32:23.360
economy, that's incredible. Who did this? Who did that? What is it that's making this cloud? What
00:32:35.220
turned it into a solid? Only one thing, in my opinion, only one thing. Now, some people are
00:32:43.880
saying the Fed, and I hear you because the Fed's actions and interest rates make a big difference.
00:32:50.620
But interest rates shouldn't make any difference if you think the economy is going to crumble,
00:32:56.020
right? Somebody says the Fed did it. I will give the Fed some credit. But the Fed's actions
00:33:03.500
would be useless if we didn't also believe that the base economy would be fine. You get that,
00:33:11.520
right? So it is true that the stock market is very influenced by the Federal Reserve and money and
00:33:18.960
interest rates. And that is all favorable at the moment. But by itself, it would be worthless.
00:33:24.560
The Fed's actions are not enough to give you this. So you need the basic stuff. You needed the
00:33:32.940
stimulus. You need enough cash. You need the interest rates. But those are only sufficient.
00:33:38.320
I'm sorry. Those are necessary, but they're not sufficient. Sufficient came entirely from Trump,
00:33:46.260
in my opinion. In my opinion, this entire structure is being held up by one person,
00:33:53.120
Trump. And the reason that he can do that, even though he has such little credibility in terms of
00:34:01.780
fact-checking, he doesn't have much credibility in fact-checking. But even his critics would agree
00:34:08.700
that the fact-checking he fails is either stuff that doesn't matter, you know, it's not important,
00:34:14.800
or it's at least directionally correct, right? He's in the right direction anyway.
00:34:18.620
But there's one thing that even his critics would have a hard time disagreeing with. And it's this.
00:34:27.780
He is really good at predicting and therefore moving the economy. I believe that the stock market,
00:34:36.460
you know, you need the Feds, the interest rates low, and you need the stimulus, you need all that.
00:34:41.620
But that where the stock market is now is almost entirely a function of Trump. I believe that
00:34:49.980
Trump, understanding how this works, as well as anyone in the world, you know, he understands the
00:34:56.520
psychology part of it. From the very first moment, what has he said about the economy? From moment one,
00:35:04.060
it's coming back. It's coming back stronger than you think. And then, now we're going to talk about
00:35:10.500
his instincts. Imagine, if you will, that Trump had been saying this economy is going to come back
00:35:17.460
and it's going to be better than ever. And our first job report had been worse than we expected.
00:35:23.460
That could have happened, right? It totally could have happened that the first jobs report,
00:35:29.380
this one that looked good, this most recent one, it could have been bad. It could have been worse
00:35:34.800
than it looked. And then you would have had Trump saying things are going to come back great, but
00:35:39.840
the data would disagree with him. Pretty big risk, wasn't it? That was a pretty big risk. And the
00:35:47.420
president, again, used his instinct to say, this is the time to tell the public unambiguously,
00:35:56.880
unambiguously, it's coming back hard. Now, you've been watching me talking about the economy
00:36:04.800
since things turned down, right? What have I been telling you consistently and with no sense of
00:36:11.840
hesitation since moment one? That's part of the reason people watch me, is that I was giving you
00:36:18.200
good news. I was telling you that the economy totally is coming back. There's no way it's damaged
00:36:24.500
beyond repair. We weren't even close to that kind of a damage. And that when we came back,
00:36:30.480
it was going to be screaming. And that we would have shook the box in enough categories and industries
00:36:37.220
that there would be a lot of innovation that would come out of all that dislocation.
00:36:43.740
Now, somebody says it's still too early. Let me explain how this works, all right? Whoever said
00:36:50.600
it's too early, look at this cloud, look at this cloud, and understand that that only exists and
00:37:01.480
it's only keeping the economy out of the fire because of the way we think about it. It's just,
00:37:06.900
that's it. It's just the way we think about it that keeps us alive. It's really that basic. If you
00:37:14.120
think about it right, you're freaking rich. If you think about it wrong, you're all dead.
00:37:21.540
Now, whoever said it's too early, and I'm getting ahead of myself being a little too optimistic,
00:37:27.440
help me keep this alive. Help me keep the cloud alive. Instead of saying it's too early,
00:37:35.280
say, we're definitely coming back. We're definitely coming back. We might come back
00:37:41.960
faster than people think. There might be a little delay, and then it might ramp up. But man,
00:37:48.640
are we coming back. Economy is coming back. See how this works? Don't think of it as a prediction.
00:37:59.940
It is a prediction, but don't think of it that way. Think of it as, I just solidified the cloud.
00:38:06.780
So 4,000 people watch this. By the time it gets posted in different places,
00:38:13.520
at least 100,000 people will see this message. So there will be 100,000 people who saw somebody
00:38:20.980
who has been, if I may be modest, more correct about more things in the last four years than
00:38:26.420
anybody in the public eye. I think I can back that up at this point. I've been more correct
00:38:33.200
than more people who are public than anybody about anything political or economic for the last four
00:38:39.240
years. And I'm telling you with complete certainty, the economy is going to come back strong.
00:38:46.360
Stronger than you could imagine. Like it'll actually surprise you. It'll be so strong.
00:38:51.940
Now that doesn't mean that every single economic report we get between now and the end of time,
00:38:57.720
it will be all positive. It doesn't work that way. Things always pop up and down. But the trend
00:39:03.140
is going to be up. And it's going to be strongly up. Now, 100,000 people just heard me say that.
00:39:09.320
How do you feel about it? Well, I know the answer to that. I'm very persuasive.
00:39:14.140
I'm literally a trained hypnotist. And I write about persuasion often. The fact that I told you
00:39:23.540
that, and I do have a degree in economics. I've got an MBA. And I haven't been wrong very much for
00:39:28.640
years about the big political stuff. And it should make you feel more confident. That would be the
00:39:38.600
natural outcome of that. Now, when you feel more confident, what happens? You just strengthen the
00:39:44.420
cloud that's holding up the economy. So I just gifted you with a little extra framework, a little
00:39:51.860
extra structure to support the cloud. Because you're part of the process, right? Your beliefs matter as
00:39:58.960
much as mine. Everybody's got to get on the same page. Things are going to work really, really well.
00:40:05.220
And that's what makes them work. It's cause and effect. You know, I always talk about the power of
00:40:10.800
positive thinking. You don't realize how powerful it is until you learn to filter your experience
00:40:18.800
through that. The power of positive thinking, it does get you jobs. It does get you a better love life.
00:40:26.380
It does. And it creates the economy. It literally creates the economy. Now, do you think it's an accident
00:40:34.620
that this president was influenced by the author of the most inspirational, influential book on how to
00:40:43.180
basically think your way into a better world? It's not a coincidence. What you're seeing, the entire
00:40:49.540
$15 trillion economy, let me put it in stark terms.
00:40:54.100
The power of positive thinking, this little book from decades and decades ago, I was at 50, 60 years
00:41:03.340
old, whatever it is, Norman Vincent Peale. That one person, Norman Vincent Peale, is almost certainly
00:41:12.760
the reason we have a $15 trillion economy. Because, you know, he gifted future generations with that
00:41:22.200
positivity all the way to President Trump, including me, you know, directly, because I was influenced by
00:41:28.140
him as well. And it's that teaching and that lesson about thinking your way to a better world
00:41:37.460
that made Trump president. And it is now supporting the entire $15 trillion economy of the United States,
00:41:44.600
upon which much of the rest of the world depends. One guy with one powerful idea is supporting a $15
00:41:55.540
trillion economy, the world's biggest military, 370 million people's livelihoods and lives. One guy
00:42:06.040
who told you to keep a positive opinion? Somebody's telling me the economy is $21 trillion. I missed it by a few
00:42:15.460
trillion. All right. So that's how powerful it is. I guess Trump is saying that the election polls,
00:42:24.580
they say Biden is way, way ahead and pulling even further ahead. Trump says that these are suppression
00:42:31.160
polls and they're all rigged. Now there are a number of different polls that are in agreement. But that
00:42:37.920
was also true. Was that not also true? In 2016, which is what Trump points out, and then points out that
00:42:46.600
they were probably, I think he thinks they were rigged in 2016 as well. Now, were those polls rigged?
00:42:54.660
I don't know. Maybe. I think they're probably rigged a little bit. But that wouldn't explain
00:43:02.260
necessarily why they're moving in the wrong direction. I think the answer is almost entirely
00:43:09.740
that people are lying to pollsters. Let me ask you this. If you're watching the news,
00:43:17.800
would you tell a stranger you were a Trump supporter? Even a stranger, would you say it to a stranger?
00:43:25.460
I wouldn't. I wouldn't tell a stranger that. And in fact, I'd go out of my way
00:43:31.560
to not tell a stranger that. I don't even want the topic to come up. If the topic comes up,
00:43:37.540
I'm going to change the subject if it's a stranger. You know, like if I were, I don't know,
00:43:43.420
talking to a server at a restaurant or just making conversation with somebody in the public realm,
00:43:50.900
I wouldn't say what I do when I'm not there. So I think we may find out that lying is behind all of
00:44:01.640
that. Oh, you know, you saw the tweet from Trump saying that the old protester, you know, the 75
00:44:13.840
year old guy that got pushed by police in Buffalo, he fell down and he hurt his head. Well, Trump is
00:44:21.000
promoting the idea. And this was something you saw on the internet, that the old man was a provocateur
00:44:28.180
and also antifa. And you say to yourself, well, not so sure, but it's out there that there's that
00:44:36.740
accusation. And then there's, there's something weird he did with his cell phone that looked like
00:44:42.180
he was trying to scan the police radio and for the purpose of jamming it or something. Now, I don't
00:44:48.780
think that's been proven. That's just sort of out there as a, as a theory. But I saw this just before
00:44:56.800
I came on, I saw a video of some younger protesters who are getting in the face of the old man in
00:45:06.620
Buffalo, the 75 year old man, because they were accusing him of coming there with the intention
00:45:13.120
of getting hurt. So the younger protesters before any of this happened, they were trying to get rid
00:45:19.780
of this 75 year old guy because they thought he was trouble. And they thought he came there to get
00:45:25.200
hurt, that he was trying to get hurt to be a provocateur. That's what the young Black Lives Matter
00:45:31.940
friendly protesters were saying to him. And it's on video. Now you haven't seen it yet. So you probably
00:45:41.140
still have, you know, your old impression of what that was all about. But I think the president's
00:45:47.700
instincts on this, I think he did it again. It looks like the president's instincts about this old man
00:45:55.980
were exactly right, that he was just there to get hurt. And to me, it looked like he took a dive.
00:46:04.640
Now, everybody who says he's 75, you know, he doesn't take much to knock a 75 year old on his ass.
00:46:12.320
When I watched it, it looked like he took a dive. You know, I watch a lot of soccer,
00:46:18.780
you know, where people pretend, oh, you know, they pretend they got hurt. So maybe I'm just primed to
00:46:24.220
think that people are pretending to be hurt. But to me, I don't know if he was bleeding. I didn't
00:46:30.360
see any blood personally. You know, when people talk about it, they say, well, he was, you know,
00:46:35.360
his head was bleeding. Maybe. I didn't see any blood. I can't say it didn't happen, but I didn't see any
00:46:41.500
blood. More video of Floyd arrest has been shown. Does it tell you anything different?
00:46:50.080
Somebody says the old man was wrong, but he didn't deserve to fall. But the point is, he may not have
00:47:01.020
fallen. It looked like he allowed himself to fall, meaning that that's the outcome he wanted.
00:47:11.720
Yeah, Trump is 73. If you pushed Trump, do you think he would fall over? I don't think so.
00:47:18.960
Somebody says they want less instinct and more intelligence. Well, I can see that. But here's
00:47:29.680
the thing. Intelligence works well when you have data. And I feel like we never do. We have data,
00:47:38.300
but it's always wrong. It's misleading. It's out of context. It's going to be revised tomorrow.
00:47:43.000
So in a world where you have lots of data, but it's just all wrong, what else are you going to do?
00:47:49.680
You need somebody who can just sort of peer into the mess and say, well, we don't know anything, but
00:47:55.240
this seems like good risk management. Let's go this way. And I think he's good at that.
00:48:01.480
Somebody said they saw blood. Oh, let me tell you a story. Yeah, no. Forget that.
00:48:07.700
I had an experience recently, but it's not an interesting enough story, in which I had a very
00:48:12.820
vivid false memory of an event. In other words, I remembered explicitly something which I later
00:48:20.160
confirmed and never happened. And it's really freaky to have such a clear memory of a thing that never
00:48:26.960
happened. And you should always take note of that when it happens, because for most of you,
00:48:32.560
you'll have that experience, you'll be sure you saw or heard something. And then you find out proof
00:48:37.900
that even satisfies you. It didn't happen. And remember all those, because those are all the
00:48:43.080
times that they help you to a higher level of awareness. If you understand that false memories
00:48:49.440
are so common, it has nothing to do with how smart you are, nothing to do with how emotional you are,
00:48:57.420
nothing. Just false memories are so common. We're suffering from them all the time.
00:49:04.800
What's your opinion on the second wave? Well, remember when Trump said, what if it just sort of
00:49:09.600
goes away? What if it just goes away? I think he's going to be close to correct. You know, he was
00:49:18.540
widely mocked for saying, well, maybe summer will come, it'll just go away. But summer came,
00:49:23.880
and it feels like it's just going away. Like, how did he get that right? Now, obviously,
00:49:30.840
there's some history that warm weather should make a difference. But even the experts were telling
00:49:35.720
Trump, well, no, don't assume this is going away. And of course, it didn't go away. But if you were
00:49:44.000
to look at it, you know, on a continuum, from, you know, being way, way worse to completely going away,
00:49:50.680
when Trump said, maybe he'll just go away on his own. He's closer to right than wrong. Because
00:49:58.080
nobody really understood why it suddenly fell off a table. You know, the sudden change in the curve,
00:50:05.920
which everybody agrees happened in New York, New York City is impossible to explain. You can't even
00:50:11.560
explain New York City. It can't be explained. So he was right. Something mysterious happened.
00:50:19.920
And it just, it just sort of went away. Now, it happened to correspond with the protest,
00:50:26.520
All right. So somebody says the old man flopped, but he couldn't catch himself. So he hit his head.
00:50:40.300
Yeah, I think there's some possibility that that, that hypothesis is true, that he fell
00:50:45.900
intentionally because he wanted to fall, but that he's 75 and he didn't do a good job of protecting
00:50:51.620
himself. If he even tried. Oh, by the way, he brought a helmet. So the new video that shows
00:50:59.280
the young people talking to the 75 year old, the 75 year old brought a helmet. So he was expecting
00:51:06.900
brain injuries. He didn't have his helmet on when he got pushed, though. Coincidence? I don't know.
00:51:13.040
All right. Those are the fun things that are happening today. The things to look for are what
00:51:24.160
happens with that national database of, of police brutality. Because in a few years, once that
00:51:32.920
database is up, we're going to find out who was right. Because as you know, conservatives almost
00:51:40.380
universally believe that there's no, there's no racism when it comes to who gets killed by police,
00:51:46.780
specifically killed. I don't know if conservatives have any opinions. I don't really hear it. But I
00:51:54.180
think most people would assume that black Americans get stopped and hassled by the cops more often.
00:52:00.420
I think that's true, right? We're sort of on the same page on the, on who gets hassled the most.
00:52:05.500
But in terms of who gets killed, there are almost no conservatives believe there's any difference.
00:52:12.300
Because the data says that. Now, what happens when, when the people on the left to see data for the
00:52:18.180
first time? Will it change their opinions? I mean, really, what happens when they see data for the
00:52:24.240
first time? Because the people on the left don't get any data. They get misleading data about a number
00:52:31.340
of people killed as a percentage of the population, which is just the wrong way to measure stuff.
00:52:37.260
If they start measuring things the way things should be measured, and have a real database of what's
00:52:41.980
happening, the discrimination is going to disappear. Think the conservatives. And given that all the data
00:52:50.460
seems to indicate that, the data we have, that's not a bad prediction.
00:52:57.900
All right. Somebody said the pro, the 75 year old had his own skateboard. I didn't see a skateboard,
00:53:05.500
but who knows? Why does it feel like everything in life is a psyop? Someone asks. I think because it is.
00:53:13.820
Certainly, everything in the public eye is not what you think. You know, there's something I've said
00:53:20.620
as sort of an offhand comment before, but I'm going to say it again, because the more you hear it,
00:53:26.060
the more it's going to be in your head. So one of the weird elements of being me is that if you're
00:53:33.900
famous for anything, you end up meeting other famous people. It's just sort of a natural outgrowth
00:53:39.580
of being famous. You just meet a lot of famous people. And then you meet famous people, and then
00:53:44.300
you meet powerful people, and then you meet people who are behind the curtain. Meaning that people
00:53:50.060
often will show me a truth that you've never seen. For example, let me give you a, I'll have to give
00:54:01.420
you an analogy so I don't tell you the real one. All right. So years ago, there was a situation in which
00:54:07.580
I got to see one of the biggest secrets of the government. I actually got to like really get
00:54:14.540
into it and see the real details of one of the biggest secrets of our government. Now, it's not
00:54:20.380
an important one. Like it doesn't affect your life in any way. But, and the only reason I can't tell you,
00:54:25.900
tell it to you, is because it was given in confidence. And even though it's 20 years later,
00:54:31.660
it was given in confidence. So I'm not going to repeat it. But I'll give you an analogy of what it
00:54:37.820
was like. It would be as if the government took me into area, what is it, area 54, and showed me the
00:54:46.780
UFOs. It was, it was that, it was sort of like that, but in a different realm. Like I actually got to see
00:54:55.580
the actual secrets. And, um, and that process has repeated itself, you know, many times and
00:55:05.260
especially recently. And I got to tell you that when, uh, when I hear the real story behind any
00:55:11.020
actual story that's in the headlines, it's just always different. It's always different. The real
00:55:17.740
story is never the one you see on TV. Never, just never. Now, I suppose if it's just so simple,
00:55:26.220
you might get the real story. But when you, when you start digging into like, you know, who's funding
00:55:31.420
whom and, you know, who, who's friends with who and who's married to who, you know, all the backstory
00:55:37.340
stuff, it always, you always go, Oh, Oh, okay. So the story on the news wasn't even close to telling me
00:55:45.740
what was happening. It was just this fake version for the public. So it's area 51, not 54. Yes.
00:55:52.860
Thank you for the correction. Now, nothing military. So, well, no, I take that back. It was military. Yeah.
00:56:03.500
So I saw a military secret. I guess you could say that, uh, although it was, it wasn't a,
00:56:11.020
it wasn't a killing device, but it was something on the fringe of, of military interest, let's say,
00:56:17.660
but it wasn't a killing weapon. All right. Uh, well, I guess you could be guessing for a while.
00:56:24.780
Now it wasn't anything about nothing about surveillance. No, I guess it was actually.
00:56:30.060
I take that back. It was a little bit about surveillance. I wish I could tell you. Oh,
00:56:36.060
I'll fuck it. I was just going to tell you. I'm just going to tell you. Okay.
00:56:39.740
Okay. I actually got to see behind the scenes, the government's investigation into, uh, ESP.
00:56:52.140
So I got to know what our government, the most knowledgeable person in the government knows about ESP.
00:57:08.300
But I can't tell you what they know. That's it. I wish I could tell you, but I can't. So,
00:57:14.540
so that's what it was. I got to see a peek into the government's best knowledge about, uh,
00:57:24.620
whether people have mental abilities beyond other people. Uh,
00:57:31.900
so just imagine that times a thousand, the stuff I've seen, you can't even believe you would not
00:57:39.020
believe. Um, well, I don't know if there's anything that, that I wasn't told because the,
00:57:48.780
the stuff I saw was not, you know, nothing that would change national security in any way.
00:58:03.740
All right. That's all I got for now. And I'll talk to you tomorrow.