Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1025 Scott Adams： Why the Protests are a Huge Success, How to Solve Racism

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, come on in.

00:00:16.280 Have you been feeling a little bit tense lately?

00:00:20.900 Are you feeling that your world is spitting apart?

00:00:25.220 Well, boy, did you come to the right place at the right time.

00:00:28.900 Well, because I'm going to tell you how everything is way better than you think it is.

00:00:34.900 Way, way better.

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00:00:40.880 Because it will.

00:00:42.860 And I'm going to tell you how the country is going to come out stronger fairly quickly.

00:00:49.240 But first, we've got to get ready.

00:00:52.320 Got to get ready for all of this.

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00:01:30.940 Yes.

00:01:31.680 Yes.

00:01:32.000 So, let's start out with a few little items here.

00:01:40.040 On Twitter, I was just teasing this Periscope.

00:01:45.060 And if you wondered why I say, you know where to find me, instead of providing a link, does anybody know why I do that?

00:01:53.580 So, on Twitter, when I tell people that I'm going to be on Periscope, I don't tell them where to find me.

00:02:00.560 I just say, you know where to find me.

00:02:03.020 And if you look at the comments, people are saying, where do I find you?

00:02:06.540 Where do I find you?

00:02:07.360 Now, this, of course, is a persuasion slash marketing technique.

00:02:13.340 Because I'm trying to make people think that there's some exclusivity about it.

00:02:19.620 And there is.

00:02:21.000 There is.

00:02:21.600 It's real.

00:02:22.580 Because if you don't know where to find me, you can't find me.

00:02:27.760 So, it's not that hard.

00:02:29.100 All they'd have to do is Google it or ask somebody on Twitter.

00:02:32.540 But I like making it a little bit hard.

00:02:34.740 So, I intentionally don't tell people how to find me.

00:02:38.780 I make them work at it a little bit.

00:02:40.860 Now, if you can make somebody work at it a little bit, and then they find you,

00:02:45.280 the odds of feeling like they want to continue watching you are much higher.

00:02:51.160 So, that's a little marketing trick for you.

00:02:53.740 Now, that wouldn't work if you weren't already popular in some way.

00:02:59.280 So, you don't want to make it hard to find you if you're not desirable to find, right?

00:03:08.260 So, you have to have something about you that makes people curious.

00:03:12.500 And then, in some cases, you could use that trick of acting like you're a little bit hard to find.

00:03:17.780 All right.

00:03:22.000 I would like to continue pointing out, for anybody who hasn't heard it yet,

00:03:26.020 that the phrase white privilege is, in my opinion, an insult to white people and should be banned.

00:03:33.080 So, that's my version of the N-word.

00:03:35.140 While I am completely on board with not using offensive terms that any group finds offensive,

00:03:43.900 and they let you know, hey, don't use that term, totally on board with that.

00:03:48.460 A hundred percent, by the way.

00:03:49.960 There's no joke.

00:03:51.380 If somebody is offended by a certain phrase or words, why in the world would I want to use them?

00:03:57.800 How would that help me?

00:03:59.780 There's nothing in it for me to insult people for no reason.

00:04:03.760 And I would like to request the same respect.

00:04:10.240 So, in my opinion, the phrase white privilege implies that somebody who succeeds and they're white

00:04:17.260 maybe didn't deserve it, which is just offensive.

00:04:23.460 So, I can't make anybody say anything.

00:04:27.000 Of course, you have freedom of speech, so you can do anything you want.

00:04:29.420 But in terms of information, I think it'd be helpful for people to know that when I hear the term white privilege,

00:04:38.160 and I would imagine this is common, but you can speak for yourselves.

00:04:41.840 I don't speak for anybody else.

00:04:44.360 That white privilege is an offensive term.

00:04:47.160 It's just completely offensive.

00:04:48.380 Now, that's not to say there isn't something to it.

00:04:52.180 Things can be true and offensive at the same time.

00:04:55.200 Would you agree?

00:04:56.580 Would you agree that we're not talking whether it's true?

00:05:00.940 Because things can be true and offensive.

00:05:03.940 There's nothing, there's no conflict there.

00:05:05.800 All right, there are five days left in my one-week challenge for somebody to explain to me in a coherent way

00:05:15.820 what systemic racism is with a current example.

00:05:20.660 So, it's the example part that's the fun part.

00:05:24.260 I've had, as we went through this yesterday, people will give you analogies,

00:05:28.560 they'll give you historical examples that don't apply, like redlining, things that are currently illegal.

00:05:34.220 They'll tell you that there are statistical differences, let's say, in education and incarceration.

00:05:42.800 And those things are all true, but they don't seem to get towards systemic, as I understand the word.

00:05:50.480 So, we're still waiting for that.

00:05:52.500 At the end of the week, well, let's say, here's what we've learned already.

00:05:57.300 So, I cannot yet conclude that it doesn't exist.

00:06:03.200 That there's no such thing as systemic racism.

00:06:06.940 In fact, I would assume, just based on living, I would assume that there are examples of it.

00:06:15.680 And that those examples are perfectly clear.

00:06:18.780 And when presented to me, even I would say, being skeptical as I am,

00:06:23.720 that even I would say, oh yeah, that's a pretty good example.

00:06:26.080 I'm with you, I see that.

00:06:29.900 But I'm not getting it, weirdly enough.

00:06:33.100 I expect it, because there's still five days left, so I would expect this would not be hard.

00:06:37.720 But here's what we know for sure.

00:06:39.060 So, it is way too soon to say anything like that systemic racism doesn't exist.

00:06:50.840 So, I'm not making that claim.

00:06:52.740 Way too early to say that, because there's five days left of the test.

00:06:57.640 What we can say with complete certainty, though, is that people don't agree what it is,

00:07:01.980 and there's no common definition.

00:07:05.200 Would you say that?

00:07:06.280 Would you say that we can say with some certainty

00:07:08.560 that the idea of systemic racism,

00:07:12.680 separate from the question of whether it exists at all,

00:07:15.980 I assume it does.

00:07:16.900 I'm just waiting for better explanations.

00:07:19.060 But we can conclude that people don't agree what it is.

00:07:23.780 If you ask for examples, it'll be all over the board.

00:07:26.960 Most of them will not be something that somebody else would say,

00:07:29.860 well, that's not so systemic.

00:07:32.220 That's just an example of somebody being a racist.

00:07:35.700 And we all know that exists.

00:07:37.240 There's no debate on whether or not racism exists.

00:07:43.540 So, we're still waiting on that.

00:07:45.280 So, we'll see how that goes.

00:07:46.740 Have you seen the, there's a new viral video going around

00:07:53.240 about coronavirus and hydroxychloroquine and vitamin C and ventilators.

00:07:58.620 And there's, many of you have seen it by now.

00:08:01.460 And it features an interview with one,

00:08:04.820 or at least the part that I saw,

00:08:06.580 was one very charismatic nurse.

00:08:09.680 I think she's a nurse, based on the context.

00:08:12.600 Now, I say charismatic because that's a big part of what makes this video so viral.

00:08:20.240 The person who's doing the talking and being interviewed,

00:08:24.700 the person we assume is a nurse,

00:08:26.420 she's not wearing nurse clothes.

00:08:28.280 Oh, yeah, but I think there was a follow-up that confirmed she's a nurse.

00:08:32.240 Anyway, she's saying, among other things,

00:08:34.760 her claim is that ventilator misuse is killing people.

00:08:40.400 We're primed to think that's true.

00:08:43.020 She says hydroxychloroquine, I think with zinc,

00:08:46.720 basically works every time.

00:08:48.820 Meaning that in her experience,

00:08:52.980 every person who's gotten it has lived.

00:08:54.880 That doesn't mean it's true, right?

00:08:59.640 So it's very important.

00:09:00.720 It doesn't mean it's true.

00:09:02.540 But there is a video of one nurse saying that

00:09:05.260 she's seen lots and lots of people come through

00:09:07.940 because she works in that area with the coronavirus.

00:09:11.460 And we don't know which hospital,

00:09:13.040 but according to her,

00:09:15.140 the hydroxychloroquine works basically every time

00:09:17.800 in the narrow sense of keeping you from dying.

00:09:23.060 That is not a clinical study.

00:09:25.880 Here's what I would say about that.

00:09:28.580 I don't find it credible, okay?

00:09:32.820 And I think that you could easily be fooled

00:09:35.420 because the nurse in the video who's being interviewed

00:09:39.380 is insanely charismatic,

00:09:42.480 as in you wonder why she's not working in the movie business.

00:09:46.960 So there's something a little too perfect about her

00:09:50.300 in this context.

00:09:52.220 She's just a little bit too good on camera.

00:09:54.880 So that part makes me think that maybe

00:09:59.540 it's getting more attention than it would just for the details.

00:10:04.020 But secondly,

00:10:05.120 I just don't see the statistical scientific weight behind it.

00:10:12.660 It's purely anecdotal.

00:10:14.520 And it feels like it agrees too much

00:10:17.320 with what a lot of people would want to hear.

00:10:20.320 So here's my bottom line to this.

00:10:24.640 I'm not going to say that any of it is wrong

00:10:27.220 because I don't know.

00:10:29.280 It could be that everything she says is completely accurate.

00:10:32.400 And actually, she comes off as being honest,

00:10:37.060 which is different from being right.

00:10:39.540 So my reading of her as a human being is that she's sincere.

00:10:50.760 And my reading of her as a human is that she's telling the truth as she understands it.

00:10:57.420 So I think she's credible in that sense.

00:10:59.220 But she's also not telling you scientific studies.

00:11:03.880 It's anecdotal.

00:11:05.360 So I would just put this filter on it and say,

00:11:08.680 I just don't trust any of the scientific conclusions,

00:11:12.880 especially when she talked about vitamin C.

00:11:15.720 that just felt like maybe she had gone a little bit further

00:11:21.540 than her anecdotal experience would take her.

00:11:26.280 So just be careful of that one.

00:11:28.400 It's interesting, and I would recommend it.

00:11:31.520 I recommend you watch it if you see it.

00:11:33.580 But just have a little skepticism on that.

00:11:38.380 I've been asked,

00:11:40.060 what would Trump do or should he do in this current situation?

00:11:43.520 If you were the president, what would you do,

00:11:46.900 given all the protests and the temperature of the country, etc.?

00:11:51.820 How would you handle it?

00:11:53.080 Would you do a big speech on bringing the world together?

00:11:58.440 I think most people,

00:12:00.140 if they think the president should do anything,

00:12:03.020 they think he should do some kind of big unifying speech.

00:12:06.880 Here's my opinion of that.

00:12:09.860 It'll only make things worse.

00:12:13.520 Now, should the president make a unifying speech?

00:12:18.100 Kind of has to, right?

00:12:20.580 It's the job of the president.

00:12:22.740 You sort of have to do that.

00:12:25.100 If you don't even try,

00:12:27.860 you're not going to look like much of a president.

00:12:29.980 So I think the president has to make

00:12:31.760 more than one, probably.

00:12:34.840 And I think there's a plan for one comment.

00:12:37.380 Some kind of a unifying speech.

00:12:39.460 But I don't think there's any chance

00:12:41.840 that won't make things worse.

00:12:43.800 Do you?

00:12:45.020 There's nothing the president can say

00:12:46.760 that won't just give his critics new ammunition.

00:12:50.980 Because CNN doesn't need much.

00:12:54.200 What was the one they were doing today?

00:12:58.040 Oh, yeah.

00:13:00.220 So here's something the president said recently

00:13:02.360 that CNN found a criticism with.

00:13:05.560 So the president said this, quote,

00:13:07.680 we have to work together

00:13:08.800 to confront bigotry and prejudice

00:13:10.920 wherever they appear.

00:13:13.060 So far, so good, right?

00:13:15.100 What could you complain about that?

00:13:17.160 Yeah, work together,

00:13:18.160 confront bigotry and prejudice

00:13:19.560 wherever they appear.

00:13:20.860 Good so far.

00:13:22.400 But we'll make no progress

00:13:23.700 and heal no wounds

00:13:24.960 by falsely labeling

00:13:26.560 the tens of millions of decent Americans

00:13:28.460 as racists or bigots,

00:13:30.600 Trump said.

00:13:31.200 So CNN pulls that out

00:13:33.520 and criticizes him

00:13:36.200 for saying that we should not

00:13:37.740 be bigots and prejudiced.

00:13:42.820 That's what he said.

00:13:44.460 Don't be a bigot in any way.

00:13:47.420 Don't be a bigot against black people.

00:13:49.280 Don't be a bigot against Republicans.

00:13:51.060 Just don't be a bigot.

00:13:53.120 And CNN calls that out

00:13:55.980 as a gigantic criticism

00:13:57.540 of how bad he is

00:13:59.600 for not wording it right.

00:14:03.040 Did he not word this right?

00:14:05.000 No, he did.

00:14:05.780 He worded it perfectly

00:14:06.820 because he included everyone.

00:14:09.860 He said, no bigotry,

00:14:11.660 no prejudice.

00:14:12.680 We should work together

00:14:13.840 to get rid of it.

00:14:14.860 And by the way,

00:14:15.560 we should get rid of all of it.

00:14:17.280 Not just most of it.

00:14:18.860 Let's get rid of all of it,

00:14:20.000 including bigotry against

00:14:22.220 Republicans, basically.

00:14:24.520 So is there any chance

00:14:28.340 that if the president

00:14:29.180 did a perfect speech

00:14:31.320 that it would be regarded

00:14:33.540 as a perfect speech?

00:14:34.880 No.

00:14:36.100 No.

00:14:37.200 Even this week,

00:14:38.240 I think three or four times,

00:14:39.540 CNN has repeated

00:14:40.620 the fine people hoax

00:14:42.680 out of Charlottesville

00:14:43.640 as if the president

00:14:45.220 praised neo-Nazis,

00:14:46.660 which didn't happen.

00:14:48.120 The opposite happened.

00:14:49.020 He condemned them.

00:14:50.360 So if you think that

00:14:51.640 saying the right things

00:14:52.980 can help,

00:14:54.380 you haven't been

00:14:55.060 paying attention.

00:14:56.580 Saying the right things

00:14:57.420 won't help at all.

00:14:59.340 It will make things worse.

00:15:01.160 No, he has to do it anyway

00:15:02.220 because, you know,

00:15:04.440 you basically have

00:15:05.260 two bad choices.

00:15:06.800 Say nothing,

00:15:08.220 that's really bad.

00:15:10.140 Say something,

00:15:11.600 still bad,

00:15:12.880 but not as bad

00:15:14.240 as saying nothing.

00:15:15.960 So those are the choices

00:15:18.280 that the smart people

00:15:19.840 are giving the president.

00:15:20.760 Two ways to lose.

00:15:22.140 I don't think he likes that.

00:15:24.160 So instead of

00:15:24.820 two ways to lose,

00:15:26.740 how about something else?

00:15:29.140 How about

00:15:29.660 instead of two ways to lose,

00:15:32.300 we give him

00:15:33.980 a more productive path?

00:15:36.740 And let me suggest this.

00:15:39.540 Suppose the president

00:15:40.580 came out and,

00:15:41.700 you know,

00:15:41.880 he has to say

00:15:42.460 all the right things

00:15:43.140 about coming together.

00:15:44.240 That won't work,

00:15:45.260 but he has to say them.

00:15:47.160 But then suppose

00:15:48.180 he emphasized

00:15:49.100 coming together on data.

00:15:51.260 Interesting, huh?

00:15:55.740 Has anybody done that before?

00:15:57.860 Has any leader said,

00:15:59.540 look,

00:16:00.200 we can't do a thing

00:16:01.780 until we agree on the data.

00:16:04.380 So let's agree on the data.

00:16:06.260 Let's put a whole bunch of work

00:16:08.420 into gathering as much data

00:16:10.760 as we can

00:16:11.320 about institutional,

00:16:13.460 systemic racism,

00:16:15.580 regular racism,

00:16:17.300 cops mistreating anybody.

00:16:19.580 Every cop incident,

00:16:20.880 let's get the,

00:16:21.660 let's get the ethnicity,

00:16:23.440 let's get the city,

00:16:24.460 let's,

00:16:24.880 let's study this thing up.

00:16:26.980 And here's why

00:16:27.900 that's important.

00:16:29.320 I think

00:16:30.280 if we agreed on the data,

00:16:32.680 the problem would go away.

00:16:35.740 Now,

00:16:36.320 not right away,

00:16:37.100 but at least

00:16:37.700 if you had the same data,

00:16:39.280 everybody would be

00:16:39.980 on the same page.

00:16:40.740 The problem is

00:16:42.380 most of the problems

00:16:43.720 in life,

00:16:44.960 almost all of our

00:16:45.920 political problems,

00:16:47.340 they're all because

00:16:48.440 the data is bad.

00:16:50.120 And when I say

00:16:50.820 the data is bad,

00:16:52.600 I mean,

00:16:56.400 when I say the data,

00:16:57.700 I'm going to make a note,

00:16:58.680 somebody said something here

00:17:00.020 I want to get back to.

00:17:00.680 The data is bad

00:17:02.100 for climate science,

00:17:04.680 the data is bad

00:17:05.600 for the economy,

00:17:07.200 the data is bad

00:17:07.960 for racism,

00:17:09.940 the data is bad

00:17:10.840 for who the police

00:17:12.220 are stopping and killing.

00:17:14.040 Basically,

00:17:14.800 every big issue,

00:17:16.980 the data is bad.

00:17:18.480 Right?

00:17:19.300 Can you think of anything

00:17:20.600 that Republicans

00:17:22.400 and Democrats

00:17:23.940 disagree on

00:17:25.100 in which we also

00:17:27.120 agree on the data?

00:17:28.700 I don't know,

00:17:31.700 there might be one,

00:17:32.680 maybe abortion,

00:17:34.760 because I think

00:17:35.280 in abortion

00:17:35.780 we agree on the data,

00:17:38.300 but then people

00:17:40.020 disagree on

00:17:40.660 whether it's a good

00:17:41.260 idea or not.

00:17:42.740 So,

00:17:43.180 but I would say

00:17:44.180 in general,

00:17:45.120 if you look at

00:17:45.740 the things that are

00:17:46.360 most in the headlines

00:17:47.420 recently,

00:17:48.460 it's because we can't

00:17:49.400 agree on the data.

00:17:50.600 So could the president

00:17:51.780 make any headway

00:17:52.960 by saying,

00:17:53.520 look,

00:17:54.320 let's just start

00:17:55.120 where we all agree.

00:17:57.260 is there anybody

00:17:58.840 out there

00:17:59.420 who doesn't think

00:18:00.700 we need to better

00:18:01.500 understand the data

00:18:02.780 when it comes to racism?

00:18:05.180 Raise your hand

00:18:05.980 if you don't want

00:18:06.800 better data.

00:18:07.780 Nobody raises their hand.

00:18:09.560 So you find at least

00:18:10.540 this tiny little thing

00:18:12.280 that you all agree on.

00:18:14.460 We need better data

00:18:15.480 and we should put it

00:18:16.580 all in one place

00:18:17.440 so everybody can look at it

00:18:18.540 and we'll be on the same page.

00:18:20.540 So that's one thing

00:18:21.900 the president could do

00:18:22.800 that I don't think

00:18:23.520 would get pushback.

00:18:25.060 Study it

00:18:25.760 and make sure

00:18:27.200 that there's some

00:18:27.880 real effort

00:18:28.720 and muscle

00:18:29.240 and money

00:18:30.480 behind really

00:18:31.420 understanding it

00:18:32.400 in all of its complexity.

00:18:37.640 Here's another thing

00:18:38.540 the president could do.

00:18:39.660 He could say,

00:18:40.520 as I've been saying,

00:18:42.120 racism is a problem.

00:18:43.280 We should do everything

00:18:43.920 we can do to reduce it.

00:18:45.420 You have to say that.

00:18:46.460 Everybody agrees with that.

00:18:48.020 But you have to also

00:18:49.960 be realistic.

00:18:52.220 We're a certain type

00:18:53.660 of people.

00:18:54.100 We have pattern

00:18:54.860 recognition brains.

00:18:56.200 You're never really

00:18:57.160 going to get rid of it.

00:18:59.220 So you should,

00:19:00.520 in addition to trying

00:19:01.480 to stamp it down

00:19:02.720 or tamp it down

00:19:03.700 to the smallest thing

00:19:04.720 it could be,

00:19:05.600 it's never going to be zero.

00:19:07.480 But you want to get a small.

00:19:08.820 That's good.

00:19:09.820 But in addition,

00:19:10.960 there's an entirely

00:19:11.980 neglected area

00:19:13.540 which is learning

00:19:15.160 how to deal with it.

00:19:17.340 Ideally, you'd want

00:19:18.280 to have none,

00:19:19.400 but you can't get there.

00:19:20.700 I mean, realistically,

00:19:21.460 you can't really get there.

00:19:23.160 Not all the way

00:19:24.220 to no racism.

00:19:25.780 We're humans.

00:19:26.980 Just not going to happen.

00:19:29.100 But you can develop

00:19:30.260 strategies that make it

00:19:32.160 so irrelevant

00:19:34.540 that you barely notice.

00:19:36.420 One of the strategies,

00:19:37.580 for example,

00:19:38.200 is just having

00:19:38.820 a better idea that,

00:19:41.240 let's say,

00:19:41.660 if you're a young black person,

00:19:43.940 to know that corporate America

00:19:45.880 wants to hire you.

00:19:48.380 Strategically,

00:19:48.900 if you developed

00:19:50.060 a skill stack

00:19:51.020 that aimed

00:19:52.340 toward a corporate job,

00:19:54.020 your odds of success

00:19:55.380 are basically 100%.

00:19:57.780 So would you still

00:19:59.600 have racism?

00:20:00.460 Probably.

00:20:01.560 In your daily life?

00:20:02.860 Probably.

00:20:04.440 But would it stop

00:20:05.320 your career?

00:20:06.380 Nope.

00:20:07.120 Your career would do great.

00:20:09.140 Racism isn't going

00:20:10.000 to stop your career

00:20:10.980 if you have

00:20:12.240 the right strategy,

00:20:13.480 if you have

00:20:13.920 a talent stack

00:20:14.660 that works.

00:20:15.900 So the president

00:20:17.420 could tell people

00:20:18.400 to work on strategy

00:20:20.240 and there's a lot

00:20:23.140 that could be done there.

00:20:25.520 He could also emphasize

00:20:27.040 something I'm going

00:20:28.480 to be talking about

00:20:29.180 in a minute.

00:20:30.100 A-B testing.

00:20:30.980 In other words,

00:20:31.880 the president doesn't

00:20:32.880 have to say

00:20:33.480 this is a good idea

00:20:34.600 and this is a bad idea.

00:20:36.240 The president can say,

00:20:38.020 we've got a big country,

00:20:40.240 let's test some stuff.

00:20:42.340 Let's just see what works.

00:20:43.460 Who would be opposed

00:20:45.300 to testing some things small?

00:20:48.900 Just try a town

00:20:50.280 with no police.

00:20:51.880 Just try it.

00:20:52.900 See what happens.

00:20:54.140 Try police

00:20:55.040 plus some other change.

00:20:57.140 Try mostly police

00:20:58.660 but you've also funded

00:20:59.700 some other things.

00:21:01.240 Just try some stuff.

00:21:02.660 Who's against that?

00:21:06.920 All right.

00:21:08.980 Oh, if all goes well,

00:21:11.240 I'll be on Tucker Carlson tonight.

00:21:13.460 So if you want

00:21:14.020 to see more of me,

00:21:15.600 I guess there's a big move

00:21:16.860 to cancel Tucker

00:21:17.880 for all the usual reasons

00:21:21.180 that the left hates anybody.

00:21:25.160 And I guess they're getting

00:21:26.360 some success

00:21:27.420 in getting some of his advertisers

00:21:29.640 to pull back.

00:21:32.000 So far, Fox News

00:21:33.160 is backing him

00:21:33.960 as far as I know.

00:21:34.640 going on Tucker's show

00:21:39.600 at the moment

00:21:40.400 when he's the focus

00:21:42.320 of the entire country's,

00:21:44.220 at least the left,

00:21:45.340 not the entire country,

00:21:46.340 but the left's entire focus

00:21:48.180 of cancellation

00:21:48.860 is Tucker.

00:21:51.020 To go on his show,

00:21:53.600 simply being on his show

00:21:55.320 would be supportive,

00:21:56.320 of course.

00:21:56.820 To go on his show

00:21:59.160 at the very moment

00:22:01.200 the white-hot

00:22:02.220 fire of cancellation

00:22:05.460 is on him

00:22:06.320 is, of course,

00:22:07.560 career suicide

00:22:08.380 on my part,

00:22:09.820 which is what makes

00:22:10.760 it attractive to me.

00:22:11.760 I don't know

00:22:14.920 what's wrong with me.

00:22:16.180 I swear to God

00:22:17.020 I don't know

00:22:17.400 what's wrong with me,

00:22:18.180 but sometimes you need

00:22:19.760 a little danger

00:22:20.460 in your life

00:22:21.120 just to feel alive.

00:22:23.300 Do you ever have

00:22:23.820 that feeling?

00:22:24.980 It's like you really

00:22:25.540 can't go through life

00:22:26.680 with no danger,

00:22:28.780 but everybody has

00:22:29.800 their own preferred

00:22:30.500 kind of danger.

00:22:31.380 I'm not a big fan

00:22:32.540 of extreme sports

00:22:34.660 and physical danger

00:22:35.800 because if you get

00:22:36.780 that wrong

00:22:37.280 you're in big trouble,

00:22:38.760 but I kind of like

00:22:40.240 social danger.

00:22:42.240 Not every kind

00:22:43.400 and not all the time,

00:22:45.160 but now and then

00:22:45.880 there are things

00:22:46.420 that are just so tantalizing

00:22:47.820 and the thought of

00:22:49.620 that I would increase

00:22:51.540 my chance of being canceled

00:22:52.840 just by going on

00:22:53.760 Tucker's show

00:22:54.420 that sealed it for me

00:22:56.740 that I was going to go

00:22:57.720 because I'm turning down

00:22:59.280 most things this summer.

00:23:00.920 Most invitations

00:23:02.640 to go on shows

00:23:03.680 and do interviews

00:23:04.480 I'm going to start

00:23:05.580 turning down

00:23:06.320 just because I have

00:23:07.480 other things to do,

00:23:08.920 but as soon as I realized

00:23:10.880 that Tucker

00:23:11.780 is the focus

00:23:12.500 of all this

00:23:13.120 cancellation energy

00:23:14.660 I thought to myself

00:23:16.120 you know,

00:23:17.260 I'd like to be right

00:23:17.980 in the middle of that.

00:23:20.400 What is wrong with me?

00:23:22.040 There's something wrong

00:23:22.920 with me

00:23:23.160 because I want to be

00:23:23.800 in the middle of that

00:23:24.580 because I want to

00:23:25.820 feel that fire

00:23:27.660 focused on me

00:23:29.520 for a little while

00:23:30.200 just to feel something.

00:23:33.020 It's a weird thing

00:23:33.900 about humans

00:23:34.500 that we need to quit.

00:23:36.700 The first time

00:23:37.400 I ever heard this

00:23:38.020 was my philosophy

00:23:39.560 instructor in college

00:23:41.200 and he talked about

00:23:42.500 how if you have

00:23:43.140 a loose tooth

00:23:43.960 you know when you're a kid

00:23:44.780 you're going to lose a tooth

00:23:45.760 if you wiggle it around

00:23:48.020 it hurts

00:23:48.600 but what do you do

00:23:50.340 all day long

00:23:51.120 if you have a loose tooth?

00:23:53.000 You wiggle it around

00:23:54.220 and it hurts

00:23:55.680 and then you keep

00:23:57.000 wiggling it around

00:23:57.740 and it hurts

00:23:58.180 and there's no

00:23:58.640 nothing good comes from it

00:23:59.860 but it's one of those things

00:24:01.640 that sometimes you can't

00:24:02.800 you just can't help yourself.

00:24:04.060 You go toward pain.

00:24:05.980 I don't know what this is

00:24:06.760 about people.

00:24:07.940 Anyway, so I'll be on that.

00:24:09.680 I don't know the exact time

00:24:10.860 because

00:24:11.600 and it could change.

00:24:13.300 Those of you

00:24:13.960 who have been watching me

00:24:14.680 for a while

00:24:15.100 you know

00:24:15.580 when I go on book tours

00:24:17.160 I get booked on things

00:24:18.680 and I don't like to tell you

00:24:19.920 too far in advance

00:24:21.160 because those things

00:24:22.360 get changed

00:24:23.140 half the time.

00:24:25.640 You know, they get changed

00:24:26.440 so often

00:24:27.160 that

00:24:27.780 you can never guarantee them.

00:24:30.900 All right.

00:24:34.980 Here's some other things

00:24:36.320 that the enemy of the people

00:24:37.520 is telling you.

00:24:42.540 So

00:24:43.020 I guess the

00:24:44.820 the Fed chairman

00:24:46.120 Jerome Powell

00:24:47.260 his remarks

00:24:48.460 made the market

00:24:49.240 go down yesterday

00:24:50.060 and by the way

00:24:51.520 you should always expect

00:24:52.800 there's going to be

00:24:53.400 a 5% pullback.

00:24:55.600 You know

00:24:55.760 anytime the market

00:24:56.600 goes up as much

00:24:57.500 as it has

00:24:58.160 there's pretty much

00:25:00.400 a guarantee

00:25:00.980 that there'll be

00:25:02.380 like a 5% pullback

00:25:03.980 at least once

00:25:05.160 probably more than once

00:25:06.340 today

00:25:07.220 it's

00:25:07.520 some of the

00:25:08.260 pullback

00:25:08.860 was halved

00:25:10.520 but you should expect

00:25:12.260 more of that

00:25:12.780 that's just normal stuff

00:25:13.800 I wouldn't worry about it at all.

00:25:17.540 So they're reporting

00:25:18.640 that the

00:25:19.400 Federal Reserve chairman

00:25:21.060 said

00:25:21.500 that

00:25:22.700 what everyone

00:25:23.720 already knew

00:25:24.460 so

00:25:25.420 according to CNN

00:25:26.340 this is what

00:25:27.180 everyone already knew

00:25:28.280 so ask yourself

00:25:29.580 if this is what

00:25:30.260 you already knew

00:25:30.960 that the global

00:25:32.340 economy is in a bad

00:25:33.300 place

00:25:33.660 and there won't

00:25:34.260 be a quick

00:25:34.880 rebound

00:25:35.380 now

00:25:36.620 what did I tell you

00:25:37.920 about the

00:25:38.900 psychology of

00:25:39.800 economics

00:25:40.440 now it is

00:25:42.580 true

00:25:43.220 that the world

00:25:44.400 economy

00:25:44.860 took a big hit

00:25:46.200 so yes

00:25:47.700 we do all know

00:25:48.480 that

00:25:48.760 but when you're

00:25:50.360 the head of the

00:25:51.180 Federal Reserve

00:25:51.860 and you tell people

00:25:53.220 that there won't be

00:25:54.040 a quick rebound

00:25:55.020 what does quick

00:25:56.720 mean

00:25:57.080 and why do you

00:25:58.580 know that

00:25:59.120 you don't really

00:26:00.620 know that

00:26:01.220 what would be

00:26:02.760 more helpful

00:26:03.380 is to be

00:26:04.300 what Trump is

00:26:05.360 which is

00:26:06.060 a cheerleader

00:26:06.800 because nobody

00:26:08.480 knows if it's

00:26:09.240 going to be good

00:26:09.780 or bad

00:26:10.300 or how quickly

00:26:11.020 it will rebound

00:26:11.720 nobody knows

00:26:12.620 so if you don't

00:26:14.080 know

00:26:14.460 the only smart

00:26:15.720 and responsible

00:26:16.540 thing to say is

00:26:17.580 could be quicker

00:26:18.800 than you think

00:26:19.500 it could be great

00:26:21.520 because it's that

00:26:22.920 optimism that

00:26:23.660 actually fuels it

00:26:24.660 it's what makes

00:26:25.360 it actually

00:26:25.960 capable of working

00:26:27.600 so I would say

00:26:29.200 that the Federal

00:26:29.920 Reserve chair

00:26:30.880 I would call

00:26:32.300 that an error

00:26:33.080 because given

00:26:34.980 that he can't

00:26:35.880 predict

00:26:36.360 he shouldn't

00:26:37.360 and he can't

00:26:38.880 predict how

00:26:39.580 quickly the

00:26:40.240 rebound will

00:26:40.780 happen

00:26:41.100 he can't

00:26:42.280 nobody can

00:26:42.920 it's just

00:26:43.260 unpredictable

00:26:43.940 so to make

00:26:45.400 a prediction

00:26:45.980 about something

00:26:46.700 that's unpredictable

00:26:47.560 and it's a

00:26:49.040 prediction that

00:26:49.620 hurts the outcome

00:26:50.840 well that's

00:26:51.900 just a mistake

00:26:52.700 now Trump

00:26:54.040 also can't

00:26:55.040 predict

00:26:55.420 because nobody

00:26:56.420 can

00:26:56.720 nobody knows

00:26:57.920 where things

00:26:58.340 are going

00:26:58.700 with the economy

00:26:59.440 it's just

00:26:59.900 true all the

00:27:01.200 time with

00:27:01.920 everybody

00:27:02.320 but Trump

00:27:04.120 plays it smart

00:27:05.180 if you don't

00:27:06.580 know where

00:27:06.980 the economy

00:27:07.580 is going

00:27:08.120 and you're

00:27:09.120 a leader

00:27:09.640 head of the

00:27:11.000 head of the

00:27:11.800 National Reserve

00:27:12.920 you know

00:27:13.380 or the Fed

00:27:14.200 I mean

00:27:14.540 of course

00:27:15.500 is a leader

00:27:16.540 of sorts

00:27:17.020 you should

00:27:18.820 talk in

00:27:19.280 optimistic terms

00:27:20.240 even if you're

00:27:20.840 not sure

00:27:21.340 because that's

00:27:22.820 what leadership

00:27:23.400 is

00:27:23.860 this is just

00:27:24.400 a mistake

00:27:24.980 in my

00:27:25.720 opinion

00:27:26.000 and I

00:27:26.720 think if

00:27:27.140 Trump were

00:27:28.440 to call

00:27:29.000 out Powell

00:27:29.920 on that

00:27:30.580 I would

00:27:31.420 agree

00:27:31.680 that's just

00:27:32.220 an error

00:27:32.880 that's just

00:27:33.900 not doing

00:27:34.300 a good job

00:27:34.940 he should be

00:27:36.800 more optimistic

00:27:37.880 here's something

00:27:39.200 that I wish

00:27:40.700 I'd thought

00:27:41.120 of myself

00:27:41.860 you know

00:27:42.820 the cop

00:27:43.980 what's his name

00:27:46.040 Chavain or

00:27:46.780 whatever

00:27:47.020 the cop

00:27:48.040 who killed

00:27:48.580 George Floyd

00:27:49.500 as was

00:27:51.500 pointed out

00:27:52.020 by Kevin

00:27:52.660 Erbanowitz

00:27:53.880 on Twitter

00:27:54.840 and he said

00:27:56.120 this

00:27:56.320 he called

00:27:56.660 him murder

00:27:57.120 cop

00:27:57.540 which I

00:27:58.000 think is

00:27:58.460 funny that

00:27:59.720 the cop

00:28:00.380 has his

00:28:00.800 own tag

00:28:01.460 now

00:28:01.720 did murder

00:28:02.760 cop have

00:28:03.340 a social

00:28:03.720 media history

00:28:04.440 or voting

00:28:05.100 record

00:28:05.480 I feel

00:28:06.820 like if

00:28:07.260 he was

00:28:07.640 a big

00:28:07.940 Trump

00:28:08.320 or MAGA

00:28:08.880 guy

00:28:09.240 CNN

00:28:10.080 would have

00:28:10.620 told us

00:28:11.360 feels like

00:28:12.500 a dog

00:28:12.880 not barking

00:28:13.520 so from

00:28:16.220 Sherlock Holmes

00:28:17.080 the dog

00:28:17.540 that doesn't

00:28:18.120 bark

00:28:18.440 also tells

00:28:19.540 you something

00:28:20.000 because it

00:28:20.400 means there

00:28:20.720 was nobody

00:28:21.140 in that area

00:28:21.840 otherwise the

00:28:22.640 dog would have

00:28:23.060 barked

00:28:23.460 so the

00:28:25.200 dog that's

00:28:25.720 not barking

00:28:26.240 is that's

00:28:27.800 a little

00:28:28.180 suspicious

00:28:28.840 isn't it

00:28:29.780 that we

00:28:30.300 haven't heard

00:28:30.780 anything about

00:28:31.380 the politics

00:28:32.180 of this

00:28:32.880 police officer

00:28:34.280 who's accused

00:28:34.940 when was

00:28:36.220 the last

00:28:36.600 time somebody

00:28:37.200 was accused

00:28:37.900 of murdering

00:28:38.840 a black

00:28:39.960 man and

00:28:40.980 we didn't

00:28:41.500 immediately

00:28:42.120 find out

00:28:43.000 his political

00:28:44.200 leanings

00:28:44.900 I'm watching

00:28:47.920 the comments

00:28:48.580 it's blowing

00:28:49.400 your mind

00:28:49.860 isn't it

00:28:50.760 people are

00:28:51.440 going

00:28:51.700 oh my god

00:28:53.220 that's such

00:28:53.680 a good

00:28:53.960 point

00:28:54.240 yeah it's

00:28:54.860 missing

00:28:55.240 it's very

00:28:57.060 missing

00:28:57.500 because we

00:28:58.500 don't know

00:28:58.860 the politics

00:28:59.500 of the cop

00:29:00.240 do you

00:29:01.460 assume that

00:29:02.100 he's a

00:29:02.500 Trump supporter

00:29:03.280 because you

00:29:05.260 probably did

00:29:06.040 didn't you

00:29:06.500 if you're

00:29:07.840 a racist

00:29:08.500 you probably

00:29:09.540 did

00:29:09.920 but I

00:29:11.680 didn't

00:29:11.980 I didn't

00:29:12.440 assume it

00:29:12.820 one way

00:29:13.140 or another

00:29:13.420 I don't

00:29:13.760 think I

00:29:14.060 even thought

00:29:14.460 of it

00:29:14.720 weirdly

00:29:15.020 enough

00:29:15.380 surprisingly

00:29:16.760 I don't

00:29:17.560 think it

00:29:17.860 ever

00:29:18.100 came across

00:29:19.440 my

00:29:19.840 you know

00:29:21.860 my skeptical

00:29:22.820 part of my

00:29:23.420 brain

00:29:23.700 but it's a

00:29:25.000 really good

00:29:25.520 question

00:29:26.040 wouldn't you

00:29:27.220 like to know

00:29:27.820 his political

00:29:28.560 leanings

00:29:29.100 just a little

00:29:29.840 bit

00:29:30.220 I think

00:29:31.160 you would

00:29:31.640 now I'd

00:29:32.640 love to

00:29:33.060 know

00:29:33.440 I mean

00:29:34.220 wouldn't

00:29:34.480 you love

00:29:34.960 to hear

00:29:35.540 that

00:29:36.940 let's say

00:29:37.540 it turns out

00:29:38.040 he is a

00:29:38.520 Trump supporter

00:29:39.120 how happy

00:29:40.420 would you

00:29:40.860 be

00:29:41.240 if it

00:29:42.760 had not

00:29:43.140 leaked

00:29:43.500 because that's

00:29:45.220 how the

00:29:45.500 system is

00:29:46.020 supposed to

00:29:46.560 work right

00:29:47.040 if it turns

00:29:48.280 out he's a

00:29:48.920 Trump supporter

00:29:49.600 and I'm

00:29:50.780 guessing he's

00:29:51.360 not

00:29:51.760 but if it

00:29:52.780 turned out

00:29:53.180 that way

00:29:53.680 wouldn't you

00:29:54.720 be impressed

00:29:55.480 if that

00:29:57.340 didn't leak

00:29:57.980 all the way

00:29:58.460 through the

00:29:58.820 trial

00:29:59.120 I'd be

00:30:00.000 really

00:30:00.280 impressed

00:30:00.820 because I

00:30:01.920 don't think

00:30:02.160 there's a

00:30:02.480 chance that's

00:30:02.980 going to

00:30:03.180 happen

00:30:03.440 but that's

00:30:04.940 the way

00:30:05.120 it's supposed

00:30:05.520 to work

00:30:06.000 so maybe

00:30:07.200 maybe we're

00:30:08.000 seeing something

00:30:08.520 really good

00:30:09.080 happening here

00:30:09.640 which is

00:30:10.140 a system

00:30:11.060 working the

00:30:11.580 way it's

00:30:11.860 supposed to

00:30:12.240 work without

00:30:12.720 leaks

00:30:13.160 but I doubt

00:30:14.440 it

00:30:14.760 but I doubt

00:30:15.900 it

00:30:16.700 I'm wondering

00:30:19.500 if the job

00:30:20.160 of ambassador

00:30:20.860 to the

00:30:21.440 autonomous zone

00:30:22.340 in Seattle

00:30:22.880 has been

00:30:23.240 taking

00:30:23.560 because I

00:30:24.520 think I

00:30:24.820 would be

00:30:25.060 an excellent

00:30:25.600 ambassador

00:30:26.320 so I'd

00:30:28.940 like to put

00:30:29.300 my hat

00:30:30.700 in the ring

00:30:31.080 there

00:30:31.300 I hear the

00:30:33.120 autonomous

00:30:33.580 zone

00:30:33.900 is being

00:30:34.340 described

00:30:35.060 as more

00:30:35.440 like a

00:30:35.820 block

00:30:36.120 party

00:30:36.460 atmosphere

00:30:37.020 by the

00:30:37.760 governor

00:30:38.880 and of course

00:30:40.500 others

00:30:41.040 including CNN

00:30:41.900 are calling

00:30:42.320 it a

00:30:42.640 terrorist

00:30:43.080 atmosphere

00:30:43.640 with a

00:30:44.020 warlord

00:30:44.480 the warlord

00:30:45.720 of course

00:30:46.260 that's probably

00:30:47.460 overstatement

00:30:48.300 of his

00:30:48.800 actual roles

00:30:49.660 but the

00:30:50.760 funniest thing

00:30:51.280 about the

00:30:51.940 autonomous

00:30:54.340 zone

00:30:54.800 is that

00:30:56.100 it immediately

00:30:56.800 needed an

00:30:57.380 armed police

00:30:58.080 force

00:30:58.520 or if you

00:31:00.960 don't think

00:31:01.440 that they

00:31:01.820 agree

00:31:02.220 that they

00:31:03.420 need an

00:31:04.000 armed

00:31:04.440 security

00:31:05.260 force

00:31:05.720 this

00:31:06.160 rapper

00:31:07.540 named

00:31:07.880 Raz

00:31:08.860 even if

00:31:09.940 you think

00:31:10.260 they don't

00:31:10.660 agree

00:31:10.920 they need

00:31:11.480 it

00:31:11.700 they do

00:31:13.320 agree

00:31:13.600 that the

00:31:13.940 guy with

00:31:14.260 the guns

00:31:14.640 is the

00:31:15.240 security

00:31:15.600 force

00:31:16.020 right

00:31:17.000 so I

00:31:17.600 think they

00:31:17.920 just learned

00:31:18.580 that if you

00:31:19.660 have an

00:31:19.900 area that

00:31:20.300 doesn't have

00:31:20.740 guns

00:31:21.200 it only

00:31:22.600 takes one

00:31:23.080 guy with

00:31:23.440 a gun

00:31:23.800 to take

00:31:24.280 over the

00:31:24.620 area

00:31:24.960 correct me

00:31:26.840 if I'm

00:31:27.120 wrong

00:31:27.400 but the

00:31:27.880 people with

00:31:28.320 guns

00:31:28.780 are kind

00:31:30.060 of running

00:31:30.520 the

00:31:30.780 autonomous

00:31:32.460 zone

00:31:33.000 because if

00:31:34.300 the people

00:31:34.680 who don't

00:31:35.180 have the

00:31:35.540 guns

00:31:36.000 get into

00:31:37.420 let's say

00:31:38.180 a major

00:31:38.940 disagreement

00:31:39.540 with the

00:31:40.080 people who

00:31:40.500 have the

00:31:40.940 guns

00:31:41.260 which way

00:31:42.560 do you

00:31:42.760 think it's

00:31:43.160 going to

00:31:43.400 go

00:31:43.620 who's going

00:31:45.040 to win

00:31:45.320 the guns

00:31:46.540 or the

00:31:47.400 no guns

00:31:48.040 so I

00:31:49.880 think there's

00:31:50.280 a lesson

00:31:50.660 being learned

00:31:51.280 there

00:31:51.620 all right

00:31:53.700 let me tell

00:31:54.160 you why

00:31:54.540 I think

00:31:55.080 everything

00:31:55.720 let me tell

00:31:58.000 you why

00:31:58.400 I think

00:31:58.880 the

00:31:59.220 protests

00:32:00.560 have been

00:32:00.880 successful

00:32:01.480 and things

00:32:02.520 are better

00:32:02.880 than you

00:32:03.220 think

00:32:03.520 all right

00:32:06.120 number one

00:32:07.500 I give

00:32:07.920 the government's

00:32:08.740 handling of

00:32:09.420 the protests

00:32:10.280 an A plus

00:32:11.300 that's not

00:32:13.040 what you

00:32:13.360 think is it

00:32:14.080 don't you

00:32:14.600 think you're

00:32:15.100 that every

00:32:15.840 part of the

00:32:16.780 government

00:32:17.080 messed up

00:32:17.760 you think

00:32:18.580 the mayors

00:32:19.440 blew it

00:32:20.480 you think

00:32:20.840 the president

00:32:21.480 should have

00:32:21.840 been more

00:32:22.200 involved

00:32:22.720 what's up

00:32:23.660 with those

00:32:24.060 governors

00:32:24.520 right

00:32:25.660 because we're

00:32:26.980 fed a

00:32:27.520 non-stop

00:32:28.400 diet

00:32:29.720 of our

00:32:31.860 politicians

00:32:32.460 messed up

00:32:33.240 and you're

00:32:33.960 always watching

00:32:34.460 your favorite

00:32:35.500 news source

00:32:36.240 and each

00:32:37.240 news source

00:32:37.780 is picking

00:32:38.260 on different

00:32:38.800 politicians

00:32:39.400 but the

00:32:40.420 theme that

00:32:41.300 overall is

00:32:42.420 all the

00:32:42.820 politicians

00:32:43.240 are doing

00:32:43.700 everything

00:32:44.040 wrong all

00:32:44.500 the time

00:32:44.860 basically

00:32:45.300 that was

00:32:46.180 the coverage

00:32:46.680 let me tell

00:32:48.120 you the

00:32:48.580 opposite view

00:32:50.000 and why I

00:32:50.920 would give

00:32:51.300 all of the

00:32:51.840 politicians

00:32:52.300 from mayor

00:32:53.600 all the

00:32:54.120 way through

00:32:54.860 A plus

00:32:56.160 now I'm

00:32:56.560 only talking

00:32:57.180 about how

00:32:57.600 they handled

00:32:58.180 the looting

00:32:58.740 and the

00:32:59.040 protests

00:32:59.520 right I'm

00:33:00.760 not talking

00:33:01.240 about other

00:33:02.120 policies

00:33:02.660 so this is

00:33:03.840 not an A

00:33:04.420 plus for all

00:33:05.220 their performance

00:33:05.980 it's not an A

00:33:07.240 plus for all

00:33:07.680 the things they

00:33:08.160 said or anything

00:33:08.900 like that

00:33:09.380 just the

00:33:10.000 outcome

00:33:10.340 what would

00:33:12.260 have been

00:33:12.500 the best

00:33:12.960 outcome

00:33:13.300 from all

00:33:14.500 of these

00:33:15.000 protesters

00:33:15.840 and looters

00:33:16.920 well the

00:33:17.520 best outcome

00:33:18.200 is that the

00:33:19.180 police did

00:33:20.580 not kill

00:33:21.040 anybody else

00:33:21.880 who didn't

00:33:22.880 deserve it

00:33:23.460 you know

00:33:23.720 it wasn't

00:33:24.320 wasn't part

00:33:24.980 of something

00:33:25.340 that's legitimate

00:33:25.980 so the

00:33:27.760 fact so

00:33:28.840 here are the

00:33:29.260 things that I

00:33:29.820 think you

00:33:30.120 should look

00:33:30.460 for for

00:33:31.040 the again

00:33:31.640 the dog

00:33:32.120 not barking

00:33:32.800 the entire

00:33:35.160 protests in

00:33:36.000 my opinion

00:33:36.560 were a giant

00:33:37.660 provocation

00:33:38.560 for the

00:33:39.160 police

00:33:39.560 in other

00:33:40.640 words the

00:33:41.120 police the

00:33:41.940 National Guard

00:33:42.600 the president

00:33:43.280 all the

00:33:44.260 politicians

00:33:44.720 were being

00:33:45.300 pushed to

00:33:46.920 overreact

00:33:47.940 would you

00:33:49.800 agree that

00:33:51.120 a major

00:33:51.720 risk slash

00:33:53.320 even goal

00:33:54.200 of some

00:33:54.900 percentage of

00:33:55.520 the protesters

00:33:56.080 not all of

00:33:56.760 them clearly

00:33:57.200 but some

00:33:58.280 percentage of

00:33:58.940 the protesters

00:33:59.540 wanted a

00:34:01.220 provocation and

00:34:02.140 they wanted

00:34:02.500 an overreaction

00:34:03.520 would you say

00:34:04.060 that that's

00:34:04.460 true did

00:34:06.180 any of the

00:34:07.260 governments give

00:34:08.040 them an

00:34:08.460 overreaction

00:34:09.460 no they

00:34:12.460 really didn't

00:34:13.140 so you

00:34:14.080 know like

00:34:14.420 a whole

00:34:16.040 bunch I

00:34:16.720 guess scores

00:34:17.540 of police

00:34:18.920 and see and

00:34:19.860 secret service

00:34:20.760 at the White

00:34:21.200 House were

00:34:22.180 injured and

00:34:23.400 some of them

00:34:23.900 badly injured

00:34:24.780 terrible injuries

00:34:26.560 we're talking

00:34:27.120 about head

00:34:27.600 injuries lots

00:34:28.460 of them and

00:34:30.200 with all of

00:34:31.000 that no

00:34:32.640 overreaction

00:34:33.620 anywhere no

00:34:35.800 overreaction

00:34:36.880 anywhere not

00:34:39.980 in the city

00:34:40.700 not well

00:34:43.240 mostly it was

00:34:43.800 in the cities

00:34:44.280 but not

00:34:44.800 anywhere a

00:34:46.480 plus if we

00:34:48.140 you know we're

00:34:49.140 not done yet

00:34:49.780 right there

00:34:50.180 could still be

00:34:50.720 some some

00:34:51.400 bad stuff

00:34:51.880 happening but

00:34:52.740 we've gotten

00:34:53.260 pretty far

00:34:54.260 into this we're

00:34:56.100 a lot closer to

00:34:56.980 the end of

00:34:57.700 least the street

00:34:58.620 protest part of

00:34:59.420 it than we are

00:34:59.900 at the beginning

00:35:00.340 and I don't

00:35:01.940 think we

00:35:03.940 messed up at

00:35:04.580 all this is

00:35:06.580 one of the

00:35:06.980 greatest success

00:35:07.980 stories I've

00:35:09.600 ever seen I

00:35:10.820 mean I am so

00:35:11.660 impressed by the

00:35:13.280 restraint of

00:35:15.340 everyone everyone

00:35:17.280 not only did the

00:35:19.880 armed Americans in

00:35:21.180 this country not

00:35:22.160 take out their

00:35:22.780 weapons oh they

00:35:24.280 bought weapons

00:35:25.080 they cleaned

00:35:26.320 weapons they

00:35:27.560 loaded weapons

00:35:28.580 they made sure

00:35:30.020 they knew where

00:35:30.540 their weapons

00:35:31.160 were but they

00:35:33.300 didn't use them

00:35:33.860 didn't use them

00:35:35.800 you didn't see

00:35:37.000 anybody shooting

00:35:38.040 a protester

00:35:38.660 and here's the

00:35:40.380 weird part you

00:35:41.020 didn't see even

00:35:41.960 the protesters

00:35:42.800 arm themselves

00:35:44.140 and use the

00:35:44.880 use the guns

00:35:45.680 you see people

00:35:46.800 doing you know

00:35:47.620 lots of things

00:35:49.200 for the for the

00:35:50.040 cameras you know

00:35:50.760 people had guns

00:35:51.620 hold guns but

00:35:53.220 for the most part

00:35:54.240 we're the most

00:35:55.220 armed country in

00:35:56.840 the world and we

00:35:58.900 chose not to use

00:35:59.740 them it's remarkable

00:36:02.240 on a level that I

00:36:04.140 don't think we'll

00:36:04.640 ever be fully

00:36:05.380 appreciated one

00:36:06.280 of the most

00:36:06.600 remarkable human

00:36:08.420 accomplishments is

00:36:10.240 that we just went

00:36:10.900 through the last

00:36:11.440 couple of weeks

00:36:12.200 not done yet but

00:36:14.120 it's looking good

00:36:14.920 I think we did

00:36:16.500 something close to

00:36:17.320 impossible really

00:36:18.880 so a plus because

00:36:23.120 I think there was a

00:36:23.980 strategy to it and

00:36:24.940 I think the strategy

00:36:25.820 was perfect and

00:36:28.420 the strategy was to

00:36:30.340 listen I think that

00:36:32.640 happened I think the

00:36:34.180 entire country

00:36:34.920 listened no question

00:36:36.800 about it and drain

00:36:38.200 the energy out of

00:36:39.100 it slowly because I

00:36:40.800 think there was an

00:36:41.580 understanding that

00:36:42.520 there was an energy

00:36:43.480 problem just too much

00:36:44.920 pent-up energy years

00:36:47.020 of you know grievances

00:36:49.600 you know that are

00:36:51.360 real and I don't want

00:36:53.160 to make the mistake

00:36:53.920 of some in giving

00:36:54.980 somebody the chance to

00:36:56.120 misinterpret this the

00:36:58.500 protest didn't happen

00:36:59.680 because it was warm

00:37:01.200 it didn't happen

00:37:02.500 because of the

00:37:03.900 coronavirus it didn't

00:37:05.600 happen because of the

00:37:07.240 lockdown it didn't

00:37:08.900 happen just because of

00:37:10.340 a video it needed all

00:37:12.300 of those things

00:37:13.080 including the you know

00:37:14.380 the history and the

00:37:16.480 grievances that are

00:37:17.420 built up all of it had

00:37:19.000 to happen the way it

00:37:19.860 did but once it

00:37:21.020 happened by far the

00:37:23.060 best strategy was to

00:37:25.120 just hold hold hold

00:37:28.740 hold hold hold hold

00:37:32.000 hold there's no second

00:37:34.740 part of the strategy

00:37:35.540 it's just a hold

00:37:36.860 strategy and just drain

00:37:38.700 the energy out of it

00:37:39.780 while respecting it

00:37:41.520 respecting it's pretty

00:37:43.100 important because I

00:37:44.280 think the entire

00:37:44.900 country respects at

00:37:46.600 least the point you

00:37:48.240 know the entire

00:37:48.980 country is at least on

00:37:50.040 the page that you know

00:37:51.480 we all saw the video of

00:37:52.600 George Floyd being

00:37:53.360 killed I think every

00:37:55.100 person of every type

00:37:56.580 had a horrified reaction

00:37:58.940 in a weird way it

00:38:00.640 brought the country

00:38:01.240 together at least at

00:38:02.640 least on that limited

00:38:03.900 question of whether that

00:38:05.300 was out of bounds and

00:38:07.340 so a plus every every

00:38:09.960 governor every mayor and

00:38:11.460 the president of the

00:38:12.140 United States good job

00:38:15.340 now was it perfect no

00:38:18.460 no nothing's perfect but

00:38:20.820 man really good all

00:38:23.980 right I think that we

00:38:25.100 have reached a deeper

00:38:25.960 understanding we're not

00:38:28.340 there yet a lot of work

00:38:29.720 to be done you know as

00:38:31.160 I said understanding what

00:38:32.860 the systemic racism the

00:38:34.360 thing is in a way that

00:38:35.780 white people can know

00:38:36.660 what the what the hell

00:38:37.740 you've been talking

00:38:38.340 about would be a big

00:38:40.120 step we're not there

00:38:42.000 but it looks like there

00:38:42.840 is real interest in

00:38:43.740 getting there I have real

00:38:45.080 interest in getting there

00:38:45.960 by the way you know I

00:38:47.220 don't do this for jokes I

00:38:49.040 do it because I have a

00:38:50.180 real interest I would

00:38:51.100 like to understand you

00:38:53.320 know the black

00:38:53.840 experience better I

00:38:55.280 would like them to

00:38:56.020 understand my experience

00:38:57.300 better that's all good

00:38:59.440 so I would say that the

00:39:01.620 amount of focus that was

00:39:03.000 put on the question of

00:39:04.000 racism a plus if I'm

00:39:07.560 going to if I'm going to

00:39:08.380 grade the protesters for

00:39:09.800 getting attention a plus

00:39:12.680 there's you can't you

00:39:14.320 can't take that away from

00:39:15.280 them right but how about

00:39:17.700 getting something done

00:39:18.860 that's practical I and

00:39:20.420 among I and many other

00:39:21.800 people have noted

00:39:23.240 accurately that there's

00:39:24.660 no unified set of

00:39:26.320 requests and I've said

00:39:29.240 that it would be a

00:39:30.120 mistake to try to offer

00:39:31.620 things because then

00:39:33.360 you're negotiating with

00:39:34.360 yourself that's a term of

00:39:36.280 art for negotiating and

00:39:37.760 it's considered a mistake

00:39:39.040 it's a negotiating mistake

00:39:41.060 to say all right all right

00:39:42.920 you're not asking for

00:39:43.760 anything in particular but

00:39:44.820 what if I gave you a

00:39:46.080 million dollars and then

00:39:48.440 there's no response here's

00:39:50.480 the mistake okay okay you

00:39:52.440 didn't respond to my

00:39:53.280 million dollars and you're

00:39:54.400 not asking for any

00:39:55.320 particular amount how about

00:39:57.220 two million that's the

00:39:58.960 mistake you never negotiate

00:40:01.620 with yourself if you don't

00:40:03.840 get a counter offer you

00:40:05.520 stop you walk away because

00:40:07.600 that's not a negotiation so

00:40:09.820 since the protest was sort of

00:40:11.900 a semi spontaneous semi

00:40:14.900 organized at least in small

00:40:17.140 cells I guess you could call

00:40:18.820 them you know groups let's

00:40:20.240 say it doesn't have a

00:40:22.760 unified leadership and so it

00:40:24.940 didn't have the capability of

00:40:26.440 saying okay here's our 10

00:40:27.640 stuff 10 10 things but even

00:40:31.300 though I criticize that as not

00:40:33.560 good negotiating look what's

00:40:35.940 happening if I'm being honest

00:40:37.740 it's working because you see

00:40:41.040 new legislation being

00:40:42.500 proposed quite seriously

00:40:44.680 Rand Paul just came out on

00:40:47.940 Twitter I think he's actually

00:40:49.320 sponsoring some or co-sponsoring

00:40:51.000 some legislation I don't know

00:40:53.000 exactly his involvement but he's

00:40:54.820 supporting it for getting rid of

00:40:58.060 no-knock warrants now I didn't

00:41:01.080 even know about no-knock warrants I

00:41:04.240 didn't even know that was a thing

00:41:05.520 right did you know that no-knock

00:41:07.740 warrants were a thing well if

00:41:09.940 you were following you know a

00:41:11.400 specific case of racial injustice

00:41:14.220 as as many people believe it to

00:41:16.800 be you knew about it in that one

00:41:19.140 case but I think most of us are

00:41:21.100 getting this new understanding

00:41:22.360 about what's this what's that

00:41:25.180 what's a no-knock warrant because

00:41:28.260 you and I have never experienced a

00:41:29.940 no-knock warrant but apparently it

00:41:33.420 could be deadly if you're black you

00:41:35.380 know more so than you know other

00:41:37.500 groups or so that is the concern

00:41:39.940 again if we had better data we would

00:41:43.180 know what is what is true and what

00:41:45.100 isn't but that's the concern now and

00:41:48.400 that's just Rand Paul now he's he is

00:41:50.740 more associated with the right of

00:41:52.340 course but on the left they also have

00:41:54.280 a number of legislative things going

00:41:58.880 through the system so I forget

00:42:01.520 everything that's on Kamala Harris's

00:42:03.400 list but they all look pretty good to

00:42:06.120 me you know I'm no expert and I can't

00:42:10.100 tell you exactly what you do and do

00:42:11.700 not need in this realm but I looked at

00:42:13.940 her list of stuff and it was things

00:42:15.440 like you know training or national

00:42:18.560 standards for cops and there were

00:42:20.940 things like you know build a better

00:42:22.540 database for police incidents and I

00:42:25.400 looked at the list and I said reasonable

00:42:27.820 you know I would want to hear the

00:42:29.980 experts weigh in on those things

00:42:32.660 because I'm not but as a citizen I look

00:42:35.800 at the list and I think reasonable

00:42:37.940 quite reasonable now the whole defund the

00:42:40.600 police well I don't think you can take

00:42:42.300 that too seriously really you know

00:42:44.740 unless you're Biden say I'm going to

00:42:46.420 defund the police I wouldn't take it

00:42:49.520 too seriously I think defund the police

00:42:52.360 is turning into Trump's plan of funding

00:42:56.700 the police fully but also there might

00:42:59.520 be some other things that are worth

00:43:00.940 funding because when the protesters say

00:43:03.860 defund the police it's not so much that

00:43:07.060 they need you know them to be defunded

00:43:09.860 it's just a conceptual thing to say that

00:43:12.380 that money could be maybe more productive

00:43:14.920 in these other areas of social concern

00:43:17.780 if it turns out that what happens is the

00:43:21.320 police are mostly funded except in some

00:43:23.480 places where they're experimenting

00:43:24.840 that's not bad if it turns out there's

00:43:28.400 some things that should have been

00:43:29.480 funded got funded we'll see could be

00:43:33.360 good too I'm actually completely in favor

00:43:36.820 of the autonomous zone I know I make fun

00:43:40.320 of it because it's it's just such a

00:43:42.400 perfect fodder for humor I mean it's got

00:43:45.940 for God's sakes it's got a charismatic

00:43:48.740 rapper who's become a warlord and of

00:43:52.420 course when we say warlord that's a

00:43:55.000 little bit for humorous purposes he does

00:43:57.400 have guns and he does seem to be

00:43:59.620 handling security warlord is just a

00:44:02.280 funny term for it but it even though

00:44:05.140 it's hilarious and funny and it can't

00:44:07.020 last forever because they don't have a

00:44:08.680 structure to support them I would say

00:44:12.660 we're gonna learn something from this I

00:44:15.600 think that the that the end the end

00:44:19.240 product of this is we're gonna learn

00:44:21.840 something and when I say we I don't

00:44:24.720 mean you and I don't mean me I mean the

00:44:28.620 protesters I mean the protesters are

00:44:31.220 gonna learn something from it don't you

00:44:33.100 think they're gonna have some fun because

00:44:35.680 right now it's just sort of fun but they

00:44:38.080 do have to worry about security they have

00:44:41.580 started infighting because they don't

00:44:43.540 have a common enemy anymore the common

00:44:45.480 enemy was the police so remember the

00:44:48.360 governments did this brilliant thing and

00:44:50.800 I would say that even the Seattle

00:44:52.160 governor is playing this brilliantly you

00:44:56.400 don't think so do you because I'll bet

00:44:58.820 every one of you disagrees with that

00:45:00.520 statement the the governor from

00:45:04.200 Washington is playing it brilliantly she's

00:45:08.020 described it as closer to a block party

00:45:10.520 than a than terrorism I think she's

00:45:13.800 three-quarters right right she's more

00:45:16.180 right than wrong I would say based on the

00:45:18.160 pictures I've seen she's more right than

00:45:20.540 wrong but whether or not it's fully a

00:45:23.380 block party or there's something to worry

00:45:25.480 about also I think the way she is trying

00:45:28.200 to frame it is perfection she's framing it

00:45:33.180 as peaceful which helps you treat it that

00:45:36.980 way which will let the energy just

00:45:39.460 dissipate on its own going in there hard

00:45:42.900 with any kind of force huge mistake

00:45:46.380 huge mistake now eventually they might

00:45:50.140 need to send in some kind of uniformed

00:45:53.460 force to mop up but I don't think the

00:45:57.440 protests can last that long meaning they

00:46:00.280 need food they're they're not going to

00:46:02.720 want to stay there they want to go home

00:46:04.660 to you know they're going to have to go

00:46:06.500 home to see their pets and stuff you just

00:46:09.680 let the energy die out and see what you

00:46:11.940 learn and I think people will learn that

00:46:14.520 running running their own running their

00:46:17.620 own autonomous zones not so easy might be

00:46:20.440 useful I would say that the protests led

00:46:23.740 to reopening the country faster most of you

00:46:26.120 would agree right because it sort of made a

00:46:29.700 joke of the thought that we shouldn't

00:46:31.420 leave the house the protesters just made a

00:46:34.320 mockery of the whole coronavirus medical

00:46:37.780 recommendation now part of it was luck

00:46:40.800 because the virus was starting to wind down

00:46:44.060 and we're getting smarter about how to treat

00:46:46.420 it and ventilators and all that stuff so

00:46:48.780 some of it was luck but I think you would

00:46:50.300 agree that the protest hastened the economic

00:46:53.360 reopening in a way that's irreversible we're

00:46:57.460 not going to go back to lock up we're

00:46:59.660 just not so I mean that was an unintended

00:47:02.280 consequence and I think that the country

00:47:06.100 will be stronger once we've gotten through

00:47:08.840 all of this that has less to do with the

00:47:10.860 protests and more to do with just good

00:47:12.980 news because we shook the box of basically

00:47:14.960 everything and that kind of energy and

00:47:18.040 disruption in a country full of

00:47:20.520 entrepreneurs should unleash just amazing

00:47:24.560 amounts of progress now let me tell you

00:47:27.700 how we can solve all this racism problem if

00:47:30.280 we wanted to solve problems but we don't

00:47:33.900 you know we don't when I say we I mean not

00:47:37.360 everyone you might want to solve a problem I

00:47:40.580 might want to solve a problem but the

00:47:42.840 leadership of groups that are let's say

00:47:46.240 active they don't necessarily want to

00:47:48.820 solve a problem because in politics if you

00:47:51.760 solve the problem you have to find another

00:47:53.920 job right maybe so politicians don't

00:47:58.320 always want to solve problems sometimes it

00:48:01.440 benefits them to keep that problem running

00:48:03.460 a little bit likewise the leaders of any

00:48:06.300 kind of provocative groups so the

00:48:08.860 leadership may be out of sync with the

00:48:12.880 people they're leading who might want

00:48:14.540 solutions leadership it's a little less

00:48:19.220 less certain so but imagine if you will

00:48:21.940 there were no leadership and all you

00:48:24.340 wanted to do was solve problems what

00:48:27.560 would that look like given that people

00:48:29.720 have very different views of the world

00:48:31.400 how could you solve it here's my take on

00:48:34.400 it I would say that if you looked at the

00:48:36.100 political left and the political right that

00:48:37.980 they focus in different places this part

00:48:40.500 I've told you before which is the left

00:48:42.980 seems to focus on the end state they'd

00:48:45.540 like equal justice and equal pay and no

00:48:48.100 bigotry and free health care and free

00:48:49.600 college now they also believe that there

00:48:53.480 are systems that need to be in place to

00:48:55.780 get there but they focus on the end

00:48:59.840 state right so the emphasis is on getting

00:49:04.140 to this you know more equal you know more

00:49:08.700 moral place I would say the political

00:49:11.780 right also likes all this stuff but

00:49:14.840 doesn't know how to get it instead they

00:49:17.380 say you know we don't know how to get

00:49:18.700 all that stuff you could talk about it

00:49:20.720 all day long but nobody knows how to get

00:49:23.120 there in the way that the math works in

00:49:25.620 the country would accept so instead the

00:49:28.540 best we can do is have these systems that

00:49:30.620 are equal for everybody as best we can do

00:49:32.860 it so because you have to tweak these

00:49:35.080 things to make sure they're equal over

00:49:36.560 time but the constitutional laws and

00:49:39.360 educational system you know the family

00:49:42.120 process and even mentoring and throwing

00:49:44.420 that in there because that's important so

00:49:47.080 let's say these are systems but again both

00:49:50.320 the left and the right they both have

00:49:53.160 goals and they both think that you need a

00:49:56.360 system to get there it's just a difference

00:49:58.920 in emphasis there's more emphasis on goals

00:50:01.820 on this side and more emphasis on process

00:50:04.700 and systems with less emphasis on the

00:50:07.660 outcomes because who can guarantee you an

00:50:09.560 outcome nobody can guarantee you an

00:50:11.980 outcome but we can work really hard to

00:50:14.320 make sure that everybody's got the same

00:50:15.980 rules and the same game so given this

00:50:20.820 situation how would you solve it well if

00:50:22.960 there were no politics and there were no

00:50:25.400 leaders it's kind of easy this would be

00:50:28.660 really easy to solve if there were no

00:50:31.500 political leaders I mean really easy

00:50:34.380 because there's no problem here in the

00:50:36.280 first place here's why the solution is

00:50:39.620 really easy number one you agree on the

00:50:42.520 aspirations let's call them goals is there

00:50:45.220 any is there anybody on the right who if it

00:50:48.900 were free would not want everybody to have

00:50:52.020 health care if it's free like it's not

00:50:54.420 free but imagine imagine if you know there

00:50:57.140 were magic so let's say magic exists hey

00:51:00.840 magic exists and you go to a Republican

00:51:03.620 hey we just discovered that magic exists and

00:51:06.920 we can give everybody health care for free

00:51:08.960 are you in is there any Republican who

00:51:12.340 would say no no even though it's magic and

00:51:16.100 it's not going to cost me anything it's

00:51:17.520 not going to cost anybody anything and

00:51:18.940 there's no downside I don't want other

00:51:21.280 people to have health care said nobody

00:51:24.040 said nobody right if it were free yeah

00:51:29.140 everybody be on the same page so given

00:51:32.560 that you've got these two points of view I

00:51:35.220 think we could agree on the aspirations

00:51:37.020 there's no Republican who would not agree

00:51:39.120 if the if we had a way to get there we

00:51:42.440 don't but if we had a way to get there I'd

00:51:45.340 like all of this stuff so you could agree

00:51:48.100 in the aspirations no problem I think you

00:51:50.960 could get there you could also agree on

00:51:54.600 the metrics in other words what are you

00:51:56.800 measuring to know if you've got a

00:51:59.700 problem and what are you measuring to

00:52:01.440 know if what you're doing is working well

00:52:03.860 that would be easy do you think anybody

00:52:06.140 would disagree on the the concept of of

00:52:10.380 coming together over what you're measuring

00:52:12.440 to know if it works I think you could make

00:52:14.660 you could get together on that that's not

00:52:16.320 a problem then then here's the part

00:52:19.580 that's the the heart of it making a b

00:52:22.060 testing more common now a b testing is

00:52:25.380 literally just testing something small

00:52:27.320 see if it works and if it works you do

00:52:30.400 more of that and if it doesn't work you

00:52:32.100 try something else and then you just

00:52:33.380 keep testing but it's a continuous

00:52:35.700 testing situation why do I like the

00:52:39.400 autonomous zone in Seattle because it's a

00:52:42.240 test it's a test we're going to learn

00:52:45.460 something about the auto zone we don't

00:52:47.960 know what but we're definitely going to

00:52:49.940 learn something now it's not the kind of

00:52:52.000 a to be testing I'm talking about because

00:52:54.240 if you do it right you plan it so it could

00:52:57.120 be more lasting and you do your best job

00:52:59.360 of planning it the Seattle autonomous zone

00:53:02.900 was not planned and therefore it doesn't

00:53:05.020 have any structure to support it so we kind

00:53:07.840 of know where it's going to end up you

00:53:09.640 know in the long run it's going to be

00:53:11.220 dismantled but we're going to learn a lot

00:53:14.380 and I think that genuinely it's going to

00:53:16.540 be useful and then once you've learned

00:53:19.480 something for your testing you revise

00:53:21.020 your systems so suppose suppose we get an

00:53:25.200 idea from this autonomous zone and

00:53:27.120 somebody says you know the biggest

00:53:29.200 problem is you didn't plan it and also

00:53:32.040 that it belonged to somebody else that's

00:53:34.540 a pretty big problem that that zone that

00:53:36.920 they've occupied that belongs to other

00:53:39.960 people so that's a problem so but suppose

00:53:44.300 somebody said hey maybe maybe we just

00:53:47.620 need two systems within one country would

00:53:51.760 it be a problem for you you personally

00:53:55.020 would you have a problem if somebody said

00:53:57.520 hey we found some private funding and we

00:54:00.220 and we found some land for sale we'd like

00:54:02.640 to build a little experiment here in the

00:54:05.200 middle of Idaho or doesn't matter where

00:54:07.160 just find some friendly place say we're

00:54:09.580 going to build this thing we're going to

00:54:10.960 try an experiment for a few years with

00:54:13.380 private money and we're going to try no

00:54:15.620 cops so that's part of the experiment no

00:54:18.160 police we're going to try to build a place

00:54:20.160 that's really inexpensive so you don't

00:54:22.660 have to be a millionaire and and we'll make

00:54:25.680 sure everybody's trained and educated we'll

00:54:27.620 have some kind of health care so in other

00:54:29.460 words we'll just test something see if it

00:54:31.940 works whatever we learn from that will

00:54:34.160 will become the next test or maybe

00:54:36.740 legislation so if you had no politicians

00:54:41.920 it would be easy to merge these because

00:54:45.460 they are two halves of the whole having

00:54:49.740 goals without good systems is useless

00:54:52.100 because you can't get to your goal having

00:54:54.960 systems with no aspirations or no end state

00:54:59.760 that you're trying to get to borders on

00:55:02.180 immoral that's not the intention I mean

00:55:05.460 there's nobody on the right who's trying

00:55:07.080 to do anything immoral nobody thinks of

00:55:09.300 it that way but if you have processes that

00:55:12.360 don't have a pretty distinct end state in

00:55:16.400 mind that's better for everybody if you're

00:55:18.980 not heading towards something good what are

00:55:22.420 you doing you have to add these together to

00:55:25.280 have anything so if we didn't have leaders

00:55:28.640 we would just add those things together we

00:55:31.380 would agree that we don't know as much as

00:55:33.340 we think we know about anything so we

00:55:35.820 would just test them somebody says next

00:55:39.880 time communism will work I tell you it

00:55:42.440 hasn't ever been tried so everybody who

00:55:46.300 takes a good idea and then exaggerates it

00:55:49.280 into a stupid one to make a point is

00:55:52.480 really just surrendering all right so so

00:55:55.700 whoever said that you just surrendered your

00:55:57.800 point because if you have to take a good

00:56:01.460 suggestion and turn it into something

00:56:03.740 stupid just to criticize it then you've

00:56:06.580 accepted that there wasn't enough to

00:56:08.220 criticize of the idea itself so I don't

00:56:11.500 believe anybody has suggested communism I

00:56:14.940 haven't heard that suggestion I've heard

00:56:18.540 socialism if you think they're the same

00:56:21.080 again same problem you've you've you've

00:56:25.020 surrendered if you're going to call

00:56:26.960 communism and socialism the same thing

00:56:29.120 well you've surrendered because if you

00:56:31.680 can't criticize socialism on its own

00:56:33.840 without turning it into some other thing

00:56:36.260 called communism so you can criticize it

00:56:38.560 well you've you've surrendered you've

00:56:42.060 said there's nothing to criticize with

00:56:43.480 socialism otherwise you would just

00:56:44.920 criticize it you wouldn't have to turn it

00:56:46.940 into something else all right people are

00:56:51.760 giving me examples of other countries

00:56:53.780 that have already tried things again let

00:56:57.800 me say this as clearly as possible if

00:57:00.100 somebody wanted to try something in just

00:57:02.040 a small community and it wasn't your

00:57:05.620 money why would you object I know you say

00:57:10.480 you don't think the experiment would work

00:57:12.280 if it let's say it's too heavily socialist I

00:57:15.260 hear you but you also hear that other

00:57:17.880 people think it might right so all that I

00:57:21.800 need to convince you is that there are

00:57:24.680 people have different opinions that's all

00:57:27.860 if people have different opinions and it

00:57:31.540 can be tested and it doesn't cost you

00:57:34.640 anything you personally no risk why not

00:57:39.160 why not all right the US has never had

00:57:48.360 socialism the US is a socialist country

00:57:51.580 we have lots of socialism we just do it

00:57:55.720 in a you know specific way are you talking

00:58:00.200 about Chaz with Tucker tonight well I don't

00:58:03.840 know yet so the way the process usually works

00:58:06.240 is so people who go on TV a lot such as

00:58:11.880 myself know this process so sometime today a

00:58:16.660 producer for Tucker show will probably

00:58:19.140 contact me and say the topics we want to

00:58:22.980 talk about are you know maybe three

00:58:25.340 questions now even if we talk about that

00:58:29.540 topic the host will usually change the

00:58:32.580 questions so so even if I know the questions

00:58:35.620 in advance it's pretty rare to be asked

00:58:38.140 exactly that question usually you know the

00:58:41.320 the more talented hosts are gonna put their

00:58:45.460 own spin on the question which is fine so you

00:58:49.540 can never be completely prepared because you

00:58:52.600 don't know what the host is gonna you know

00:58:54.780 improvise also that list of let's say three

00:59:00.420 things that you might talk about on the show

00:59:02.340 gets revised every hour until the show

00:59:05.680 typically because they're always looking at

00:59:08.960 the the hottest news and say okay okay we're

00:59:11.900 gonna drop this third one because something

00:59:13.660 just happened we'll throw that on top but

00:59:15.660 the other two are still there and then by the

00:59:17.620 time you get to the show who knows you know

00:59:19.880 there's so much happened in one day that you

00:59:23.060 don't know all right let me just make sure I

00:59:25.940 hit all my points oh Microsoft just announced

00:59:29.100 it will not sell facial recognition tell

00:59:32.020 technology to the police I don't know how

00:59:37.520 they're gonna get away with that how in the

00:59:40.080 world do you get away with just denying

00:59:42.060 selling something to the police if it's a

00:59:45.080 tool and what exactly does facial recognition

00:59:48.340 do that is so evil we're gonna be talking a lot

00:59:54.640 more about that and I'll tell you why so I'll

00:59:58.400 have an announcement in that in that zone that

01:00:03.780 I'll be talking to you about later so so wait for

01:00:08.500 that all right I think I hit all my oh let's talk

01:00:14.800 about the statues I'm completely in favor of

01:00:19.180 getting rid of all the racist statues I've told

01:00:21.600 you that before I'd get rid of Columbus I'd get

01:00:25.180 rid of all the slave owners I'd get rid of all

01:00:28.100 the Confederate generals now I know you disagree

01:00:31.360 and I respect that so I want you to know that if

01:00:35.420 you would like to keep all those statues and the

01:00:38.060 reason that you'd like to keep them is that you

01:00:40.260 understand that they offend some people but you

01:00:42.560 think they have historical value and that and that

01:00:45.960 that context can be maintained that's a very

01:00:49.260 respectable opinion but it is nonetheless a fact

01:00:54.140 that something like half of the country is offended

01:00:57.100 by them and for me they're just decorations and if

01:01:01.520 your decorations are offending you know a quarter of

01:01:04.740 your guests or half of your guests you don't need a

01:01:08.220 better reason I'm not gonna I'm not gonna reason

01:01:11.400 through the logic of it and the Constitution and my

01:01:14.180 rights and the laws I'm not going to talk about the

01:01:16.820 details of it if half the country is offended by it and

01:01:21.900 it's basically a decoration because the history is in the

01:01:24.960 history books you know I don't know anybody who learned

01:01:27.880 history from a statue in my whole life I've never heard

01:01:31.380 anybody's well I didn't go to school but I did a tour of

01:01:34.500 statues so I got the same education I wouldn't worry about

01:01:38.640 losing history because you lost a decoration it doesn't work

01:01:41.980 that way yeah Columbus was a huge racist he was one of the

01:01:46.360 biggest ones and if you don't know that just just google it

01:01:50.360 maybe a lot of people don't understand that basically Columbus

01:01:55.560 was he was basically Hitler you know he wasn't far off from

01:02:01.420 Hitler literally you know if you if you google it you'll find

01:02:05.100 out yourself so I think that I think it's healthy for a country

01:02:12.740 to reboot and refresh and I don't think there's anything wrong

01:02:18.600 with looking at our historical founders in their full context and if

01:02:23.660 we don't want to promote people who were half awesome and half

01:02:29.100 horrible we don't have to why bother so uh so I say you know if

01:02:39.060 somebody wants to protect the statues and you know handle them differently I

01:02:43.260 completely respect that I just think my this is this has this isn't even a

01:02:48.720 policy decision let me put it in let me put it in personal terms as a policy

01:02:54.960 decision I don't know I'm not really that interested as a personal decision of a

01:03:01.640 citizen who lives in the country I personally choose not to offend other

01:03:06.940 citizens of my country deeply offend them over something that's not important to

01:03:13.160 me so it's that that's like a personal decision in terms of policy well that gets

01:03:19.260 into free speech and bigger things and frankly I'm not that interested but if you

01:03:23.540 want to know what I think about it personally I wouldn't use I wouldn't

01:03:27.600 offend anybody for no reason so that's me that's all for me and I will talk to

01:03:33.440 you tomorrow

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - June 12, 2020

Episode 1025 Scott Adams： Why the Protests are a Huge Success, How to Solve Racism

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