Real Coffee with Scott Adams - June 30, 2020


Episode 1043 Scott Adams: Secondary Simultaneous Sip, This Time With Better Anger Management


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

142.6297

Word Count

7,585

Sentence Count

516

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

Scott Adams joins Jemele to talk about the " simultaneous hip" and coffee drinking problem, dyslexia, and a problem with calendars. Plus, a lesson in anger management, and the first time I accidentally used the word "dyslexia."


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, I think we should try it again, this time, differently and better.
00:00:15.360 Because if you tried to join me in the first two failed attempts at the simultaneous hip and coffee with Scott Adams,
00:00:23.520 you know it didn't go well.
00:00:26.100 I'll explain that.
00:00:28.280 But some of you may be prepared for the simultaneous hip.
00:00:31.680 Maybe you already had it.
00:00:32.640 Maybe you'd like to do another one.
00:00:34.000 But it happens right now.
00:00:35.880 And all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or a challenger, a stein, a canteen jug or a flask, a vessel of any kind.
00:00:44.700 Yes, I'm doing this for all of the OCD people who are watching this.
00:00:48.500 I include myself in that category in this context.
00:00:53.140 Sometimes you just need your routines.
00:00:55.480 And I know you wouldn't feel the same if I didn't come back and finish this.
00:01:02.400 And so, I invite you to enjoy the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
00:01:09.880 The second simultaneous sip may be the first for you.
00:01:14.140 Go.
00:01:14.460 So, here's a little lesson in anger management.
00:01:25.280 I aborted my first couple attempts there.
00:01:30.640 Well, actually, the second attempt because my anger overwhelmed me.
00:01:37.920 Now, what I was angry at, you have no idea because it wouldn't be obvious from what you were watching.
00:01:44.600 So, I wasn't angry that my technology wasn't working because I had a guest on.
00:01:51.940 I was angry at myself because I have this problem with calendars.
00:01:59.160 And when I say I have a problem with calendars, I mean it's one of the biggest problems in my life, literally.
00:02:05.120 And I would love to know if there's anybody else in the world who has this problem.
00:02:09.880 And in general, I have a problem with time.
00:02:13.780 If you give me your phone number out loud and you say blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I can hear the numbers, but I don't have a sense of what order they came in, if you say it quickly.
00:02:23.620 So, I've always had sort of an audio, let's say, issue with time.
00:02:31.380 I hear things, but out of order.
00:02:33.760 And likewise, when I read, somebody noticed once that I don't read sentences necessarily from left to right, which is true.
00:02:42.880 So, I kind of look at them left to right, right to left, middle, that word, because things arrive and then I just reorganize them into what should have been the order they should have been.
00:02:57.380 So, if that sounds like dyslexia, that's what I call it sometimes.
00:03:01.240 But it applies to all things calendars.
00:03:08.260 And I've got this weird thing where I can look at a calendar for my day, and it'll be just a square box for the day, and there'll be nothing written in there, no appointments whatsoever.
00:03:19.600 And I'll say, ah, I've got nothing on my calendar.
00:03:22.940 And then somebody will say, like today, hey, what about this appointment?
00:03:28.200 Where are you?
00:03:28.980 Or why aren't you on this phone call?
00:03:30.820 And I'll think, I just looked at the calendar.
00:03:34.460 There's nothing on my calendar.
00:03:35.900 And then I'll pick up the calendar and I'll look at it, and there it is.
00:03:39.980 It will just be there.
00:03:42.500 When it so clearly wasn't there the last time I looked.
00:03:46.480 And sometimes it might be because my calendar isn't syncing.
00:03:50.700 Sometimes I'm crazy.
00:03:51.940 Sometimes I have a false memory of looking.
00:03:55.200 I don't know.
00:03:55.860 Maybe it's some variety of things.
00:03:57.460 But it is so consistent that it's like a glitch in the matrix.
00:04:02.760 You know, it's like my simulation isn't working.
00:04:04.660 One of my main jobs, every time I make a comic, a Dilbert comic, I have to put the date in it.
00:04:12.400 So I have to figure out what date it's going to run in the future, and then write down the correct date.
00:04:18.180 How often do you think I can look at when my comic is due?
00:04:23.400 I mean, it's just, there's a list that says it's due on this date.
00:04:27.080 And then just write the date of the comic.
00:04:30.900 Pretty easy, right?
00:04:31.820 Here's the date.
00:04:33.360 And just write it down.
00:04:35.720 How often do you think I do that wrong?
00:04:38.000 After 30 years of practicing every day.
00:04:42.560 About 80% of the time, wrong.
00:04:44.760 About 80% of the time, I can't write down a date.
00:04:47.760 Or look at it, and look at the right day of the week, and translate it in my head to what I need.
00:04:54.020 So I'd be really interested if anybody has a calendar-specific problem that doesn't seem to be affecting any other part of your life.
00:05:04.260 Because, you know, I can do pretty much any other complicated task effortlessly.
00:05:11.320 Just effortlessly.
00:05:13.360 And somebody's saying excessive weed.
00:05:16.540 Now, I wouldn't say the same thing, except that it's always been the case.
00:05:20.500 So it's not something that happened, you know, when I discovered marijuana in college.
00:05:24.800 It was a, you know, continuous lifetime thing.
00:05:28.160 Anyway, that has nothing to do with anything.
00:05:29.740 Let's talk about the news.
00:05:30.900 So, the story about Trump and whether or not he was briefed on the Russian bounty story.
00:05:42.240 That they were putting a bounty on Afghans killing American soldiers.
00:05:48.300 And here's the thing.
00:05:49.960 This story was so important that it's the national headline.
00:05:54.900 And everybody agrees, by God, if this is true, it's a gigantic thing.
00:05:59.700 Right?
00:06:00.020 Everybody agrees that.
00:06:01.700 There's nobody who's saying, no, no, no.
00:06:03.860 That wouldn't be a big deal.
00:06:05.800 Is there anybody who says that?
00:06:07.700 Nobody.
00:06:09.100 But yet, it's such a big deal that the briefers never thought to mention it to the president.
00:06:17.160 Apparently, the claim is that it's in the briefings.
00:06:20.600 So, what exactly is going on that we think this is a really big story, but the people who briefed the president didn't think to mention it out loud, knowing that he doesn't read the detailed reports.
00:06:46.340 He would depend on them, he would depend on them, to tell him what's important.
00:06:50.500 And that never came up.
00:06:53.180 That never came up.
00:06:54.860 Right?
00:06:56.620 There's something wrong.
00:06:57.940 Now, could it be that the reason it didn't rise to that level of importance with the people who actually understand how the world works, the people briefing the president, could it be that this is fairly routine?
00:07:12.720 Do you know what I mean?
00:07:17.280 How unordinary is it for some country to be paying the bad guys in some other group to kill the people that you want to influence in this group?
00:07:28.720 How unordinary is that?
00:07:30.740 Because it might be just so routine and so ever-present, it's entirely possible that the people briefing the president, it just didn't seem like it was a top-ten concern.
00:07:44.500 Because it doesn't matter why somebody's trying to kill you, if you're in Afghanistan and you're in the military, you're kind of looking for people to try to kill you all the time anyway.
00:07:56.240 Like, do they need a reason?
00:07:57.640 Does anybody think, who thinks that you have to be bribed, if you're an Afghan, you know, fighter, who thinks you have to be bribed to kill Americans?
00:08:11.660 Well, I wasn't thinking of killing Americans, but now that you've given me all these excellent Russian rupels, or whatever they are, now I'm thinking of it suddenly.
00:08:25.240 Maybe.
00:08:25.660 Maybe.
00:08:27.400 So, CNN has trotted Carl Bernstein out again to say crazy stuff, you know, mind-reading stuff, like,
00:08:38.400 Trump was seeking Putin's approval.
00:08:41.080 Trump is always seeking Putin's approval.
00:08:43.820 Why is Trump always seeking Putin's approval?
00:08:47.160 To which I say, uh, isn't that like reading his mind?
00:08:54.280 We know what Trump does, I mean, the things we can observe.
00:08:58.960 We know, for example, that he has been soft on Putin in public.
00:09:04.220 Other times he's been, you know, quite hard in terms of sanctions and whatnot.
00:09:10.140 So we see what he does, but to then translate that into he's seeking Putin's approval.
00:09:18.500 And I think, how dumb are CNN viewers that they think they need to turn on the TV to see Carl Bernstein, the worse than Watergate guy,
00:09:31.620 comment on his mind-reading skills that have been wrong every time so far?
00:09:38.160 It's just weird that this is even on television and that it works.
00:09:44.080 Like, apparently it works well enough that they bring him back.
00:09:46.660 He must be popular to their audience.
00:09:48.780 But then, of course, the thing I always tease them about is that you only bring Carl Bernstein on
00:09:54.860 if the whole point of it is to get him to say, whatever you're talking about is worse than Watergate.
00:10:01.380 It's like the whole game.
00:10:03.040 Because it's not like he's the natural person that you would be inviting on for any other reason
00:10:08.800 if he didn't have the ability to say, eh, it's worse than Watergate.
00:10:14.040 If you took that away from him, he would never be on TV.
00:10:16.580 So it's obvious that that's the driving thing.
00:10:20.680 Carl, do some articles on this, and we'll give it about three interviews.
00:10:27.140 About the third time, hit us with a worse than Watergate.
00:10:31.880 That's going to be the highlight clip.
00:10:35.420 All right.
00:10:39.920 So I told you in my aborted periscope that I've decided to endorse Joe Biden
00:10:45.920 but only to protect myself from racist Democrats.
00:10:51.400 We'll talk about racist Democrats in a moment, a little bit more.
00:10:56.840 But you may recognize this maneuver from 2016
00:11:01.640 when I said that I was going to endorse Hillary Clinton but only for my safety.
00:11:08.240 I was completely serious, meaning that it actually kept me safe.
00:11:15.080 I was able to say, hey, I endorsed Hillary.
00:11:19.060 What are you coming after me for?
00:11:21.060 It's kind of confusing.
00:11:22.840 So I am going to literally endorse Joe Biden.
00:11:26.760 I don't expect this will have any influence on anybody's votes.
00:11:32.820 Why does anybody care what anybody else endorses anyway?
00:11:36.360 Why is that even a thing?
00:11:39.080 And, you know, I don't vote.
00:11:41.740 I'm not a member of any political party.
00:11:44.200 Don't plan to be.
00:11:45.560 And I don't plan to vote because it biases me.
00:11:47.880 But if it makes me safer, you know, during this violent revolution
00:11:54.280 that we seem to be seeing here, I endorse Joe Biden.
00:11:59.540 So let me just run this by you.
00:12:04.140 Angry mob comes to my house and I say, why are you here bothering me?
00:12:10.260 I endorse Joe Biden.
00:12:12.060 And they say, did you?
00:12:14.020 I don't think you did.
00:12:15.520 You're always saying good things about Trump.
00:12:17.240 I said, check my Twitter.
00:12:20.280 There it is.
00:12:21.120 Boom.
00:12:23.580 Somebody says, coward, in all caps.
00:12:29.940 You know, something my mother taught me, which is there was a, it's an old saying.
00:12:35.360 You know, there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
00:12:39.320 I would rather be smart and alive than very brave and stupid and dumb.
00:12:47.240 You know, it went dead.
00:12:49.820 So we all get to choose.
00:12:52.500 All right.
00:12:53.440 So the Dems, the Democratic Party tweeted that Mount Rushmore was a symbol of white supremacy.
00:13:00.880 And here's the thing.
00:13:02.300 Are they wrong?
00:13:04.160 Right?
00:13:04.200 I mean, George Washington, you know, you may love your George Washington and you want to keep your dollar bills and your quarters and your Washington, D.C. and all that.
00:13:15.400 And so I certainly understand that.
00:13:18.000 But it's hard to escape the fact that you own slaves.
00:13:22.560 It's just a fact.
00:13:24.320 So, you know, I can criticize a lot of things, but I can't really criticize someone who doesn't want to be surrounded by your reminders of slavery.
00:13:36.640 It's not the most unreasonable thing, even though it's terribly impractical to change things and it makes people upset.
00:13:44.800 At the same time, you know, there are not many, there aren't that many cases where you can so easily see the other side.
00:13:52.480 You know, this is one where you can say to yourself, oh, I totally get why people say that's too far.
00:13:59.000 George Washington's special.
00:14:00.940 Don't go that far.
00:14:03.280 You know, it's complicated.
00:14:05.960 You know, people weren't perfect back then.
00:14:08.660 It has to be viewed through the lens of history.
00:14:11.480 I totally get that.
00:14:12.920 That's a completely reasonable argument.
00:14:15.240 I don't disagree with it a bit.
00:14:16.820 But I completely agree with the people who say, you know, I don't think you'd like this because I wouldn't.
00:14:27.200 So I can definitely see both sides.
00:14:29.920 So I think that's just a question of power.
00:14:32.400 You know, wherever the power is exerted, it will determine the outcome.
00:14:38.640 Now, speaking of power, let's talk about the thing that everybody's thinking, but you don't want to say it out loud and, you know, get banned from all platforms, I guess, which is what are the odds this turns into an actual shooting revolution?
00:14:56.620 Because the interesting thing is that the protesters are quite brilliantly avoiding gunfire, except at each other.
00:15:08.380 So the only people being shot by protesters are other protesters, apparently.
00:15:14.800 Now, that is surprisingly good discipline, don't you think?
00:15:19.220 I mean, it's sort of scary how good the discipline is.
00:15:22.600 And the reason makes sense, because as long as they have numbers, but they don't use guns, the other side is going to have trouble using guns against them, because it would just increase their numbers.
00:15:34.440 So they have sort of this checkmate kind of thing, where if it's just lots of humans with maybe some clubs now and then, and, you know, some dirty tricks, but no guns, it's just going to be hard to control them if your only tool is guns, because shooting them would make them stronger.
00:15:56.940 It would, you know, boost their argument.
00:15:59.120 But on the other hand, it has always been true, and probably always will be true, that the government is whoever uses the most force.
00:16:11.700 So if the government in name, you know, the one that you think of as the government now, is unwilling or unable to use the most force, then whoever is willing to use the most force becomes the government.
00:16:28.800 So right now, the way they use crowds against smaller numbers of armed people who won't use their weapons, what would stop them?
00:16:41.360 What would be the thing that stops them?
00:16:43.980 Because it's working, right?
00:16:45.540 And people keep doing what works.
00:16:47.720 Well, the only thing that will stop them is force.
00:16:51.520 It would have to be a force that is violent.
00:16:55.480 Again, not recommending.
00:16:58.420 I'm not saying anybody should do anything violent.
00:17:02.560 I never recommend that.
00:17:04.420 What we're doing is sort of thinking through what is the logical ramifications of what you're saying, right?
00:17:10.600 So it's more just a prediction.
00:17:13.040 So things, you know, I always say there's no such thing as a slippery slope, because it can't slip forever.
00:17:18.080 And, you know, if we rethought how we treated George Washington, and that ended up being, you know, sort of where the line got drawn, in retrospect, you look at it and say, well, you know, something stopped it.
00:17:33.780 But the only thing that's going to stop it that I can imagine, because they're not looking for concessions, right?
00:17:40.140 If the protesters were looking for something that they could get, you know, an actual specific deliverable, and then you could give it to them, you'd say, oh, well, it's like a strike by a union.
00:17:55.700 As soon as they get what they want, or the best that they can get, then they go back to work.
00:18:01.740 But these protesters are not like a union strike.
00:18:04.700 There's not really a specific thing they want, except more.
00:18:10.120 And more is not something you can satisfy, you know, because you can't just give more if the response is more and more.
00:18:20.680 So there's no way to negotiate an end to something that isn't a negotiation, and can't be by its nature.
00:18:29.080 It's just a power.
00:18:30.600 So it's basically a power move.
00:18:33.300 And the only thing that will stop it is violence.
00:18:36.480 So if there is none, and again, I'm not suggesting there should be, but it will just sweep through the country and become the law of the land, would obviously destroy the country.
00:18:47.400 Because the main difference between the left and the right is an understanding of incentives and how to build a system.
00:19:00.380 You know, Republicans are good at building systems that are a little bit cruel by objective standards, which is, is capitalism cruel?
00:19:10.060 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, it leaves people behind.
00:19:13.420 But it works better than other systems.
00:19:15.840 That's the only, the only thing you can say about it, is that compared to the alternatives, it's way better.
00:19:23.860 It's not even close.
00:19:25.340 But it has lots of flaws, of course.
00:19:29.280 Anyway, so that's the big difference is that there isn't any way that the, the left's view of how the world should run could actually work.
00:19:38.480 And that's one of the reasons that I, I am non-jokingly in favor of letting the, the chop occupied zone and let it run out a little bit.
00:19:50.220 You know, let it, let it play out.
00:19:54.460 Because now you, now you say to me, but, um, Scott, people are being killed there.
00:20:00.000 You know, that we've had several shootings and murders in that area, but it's only a few.
00:20:05.440 I know that sounds cold, but, you know, it's an area that has a few murders every year.
00:20:13.140 This is more than normal.
00:20:15.420 But what would be the alternative?
00:20:18.640 What's the alternative?
00:20:19.940 If there's no way to get them out without force, then leaving them there and having them basically discover that they would like a better system
00:20:29.680 might be the least, the least damaging way to, to game this out in the long run for the least loss of life.
00:20:38.740 So it might be that they just need to, um, have enough of a bad experience, which would include death.
00:20:46.520 And, but it's not, it's not even the number of people getting shot or killed that would make the big difference.
00:20:53.300 Imagine living in this zone where you see people walking by open carry, you know, they've, they've actually got guns.
00:21:01.080 You know that there was a shooting the other night and you know that you've kicked out the police and you live there.
00:21:08.600 So what if you're, especially if you're a woman, you know, you've got a little extra risk if you're a woman.
00:21:14.220 So what are they thinking?
00:21:16.820 What are the women in CHOP thinking when they see that it has become, uh, you know, the, the law of whoever has a gun or whoever decides to be the most violent?
00:21:29.620 So it seems to me that letting it run a little bit may, if you were to fast forward into the future and say to yourself,
00:21:39.280 how's this going to look, you know, two years from now when we're looking back at the moment, Republicans are saying some version of president Trump is not showing enough, uh, force, not showing enough, I don't know, leadership.
00:21:58.960 You know, he, he's sort of standing back and letting the, the mayors, you know, handle things that may turn out to look, uh,
00:22:09.280 uh, brilliant.
00:22:11.040 Now somebody says, I have a blind spot about this.
00:22:13.780 I think it's about the, the Marxist plan to take over the world.
00:22:18.400 So I don't have a blind spot about that.
00:22:20.640 In fact, everything I've said is compatible with that, but I think that's what you're talking about.
00:22:25.400 Um, so, and, and, and you also have to factor in, uh, the odds that there's a foreign influence over the protesters.
00:22:37.140 Now the odds that there's attempted foreign influence is a hundred percent, uh, the odds that it is successful and that it's a variable that matters.
00:22:47.700 Let's say that Russia or China or anybody else, Great Britain, you know, that, uh, you know, is it possible and could they do it easily?
00:22:57.120 And the answer is, yeah, it's possible.
00:22:59.740 They can do it easily and they have, they have motivation to destabilize, at least in the case of Russia and China.
00:23:06.840 All right.
00:23:07.340 So, uh, I laid a little trap on Twitter that finally, uh, sprung.
00:23:17.480 Um, and it goes like this, I made three claims in a, in a conversation in which a lot of Hollywood artists were involved.
00:23:27.040 Now, as you know, artists are my natural enemies.
00:23:30.220 So whenever I say anything on Twitter that gets the attention of other writers, authors, artists, musicians, they, they all attack, but they're, they're always hilarious in their attacks because they can't even really follow the point usually.
00:23:46.100 And their attacks are just completely irrational, which is completely different from when a lawyer or an engineer usually comes after me.
00:23:54.520 You know, those are, those are more rational attacks.
00:23:57.600 They're either right or wrong.
00:23:59.080 I agree or I don't.
00:24:00.420 But when the artists come after me, it's just, it's just sort of crazy nonsense and it's more fun to, uh, to do that.
00:24:07.300 But anyway, I, I used a technique that I've written about, uh, in which I said three things, two of them are easily checked.
00:24:20.640 And I don't think, you know, I wouldn't get as much pushback from, but the third one set people's hair on fire because it's a little ambiguous.
00:24:30.820 Now, when I say it's a little ambiguous, I mean, reasonable people who could look at the same information and say to themselves, I totally disagree with how you're interpreting that.
00:24:41.600 Now, when you can create a situation like that, where there's a difference in how people interpret the same data and it's something that matters, that's a good fight.
00:24:52.480 So if you're trying to draw attention to something, have I taught you that doing something that's a little bit wrong, but it's close to something that's right, is where you get all the attention.
00:25:06.200 Simply making a claim that's true or false doesn't get the same attention as something that's just a little bit wrong and darn it, you know, you should have known it.
00:25:17.480 How can I fix this? Can't I correct this for you? You fool. How could you have made this mistake?
00:25:24.200 So here are the claims I made. Uh, it was in a thread about some discrimination against African Americans in Hollywood, which I'm sure exists.
00:25:32.880 Of course, I wouldn't doubt that, uh, because it exists everywhere.
00:25:38.400 So, so I just added context. Now, where do you see the breadth of this play here?
00:25:46.480 You might appreciate the complexity of it.
00:25:50.820 All right. Um, so I said that, uh, I lost, uh, two jobs in corporate America for being a white male.
00:26:00.600 You've heard those stories. And those are true because they told me directly to my face.
00:26:05.140 You cannot be promoted because you're white male.
00:26:09.340 So I left both of those positions eventually because I had to, I couldn't be promoted.
00:26:14.400 Um, but then I made a third claim that's a little sketchier.
00:26:22.000 Now here's the part that's the fun part. Of course, I know it's sketchy.
00:26:28.140 That's why I did it.
00:26:29.340 So I included a third part because it draws attention to the other two. So that's the play.
00:26:36.460 So here's what I claimed. And by the way, this claim is as good as a lot of other claims that people would consider legitimate,
00:26:44.980 which is what makes it sort of a good prank that it falls into that category of, well, maybe.
00:26:54.020 And so I claimed that I lost the, uh, the Dilbert TV show that ran on the UPN for,
00:27:01.300 because I'm a white creator with a right, a white product.
00:27:05.280 And the context is that, uh, UPN decided to do a, um, a focus on African-American audience
00:27:14.160 right after my first season in which the Dilbert TV show had good enough ratings,
00:27:20.640 you know, within the UPN universe, had good enough ratings to be renewed.
00:27:25.360 Now that's pretty good, but, you know, I don't know what percentage of shows ever get renewed
00:27:30.800 after the first season. It, you know, it's not terrific, whatever that number is.
00:27:35.680 So just to get renewed, it's a pretty big deal.
00:27:39.340 Now in the animation world, it's a much bigger deal.
00:27:43.480 Because here's the thing. With a live action, you can adjust as you go,
00:27:49.640 because you see what you're getting while you're getting it.
00:27:52.920 In other words, you can have your actors do a run-through of the script.
00:27:56.720 If it's not funny, you change a few lines.
00:27:59.280 And so by the time it gets on television, you know, you've really refined it in real time.
00:28:05.160 But if you're making animation, you write it, you add the voices,
00:28:10.240 it gets sent off to, I think, South Korea at the time.
00:28:14.660 Animation happens, and you don't see it again for months.
00:28:17.920 And the only thing you can do, for the most part,
00:28:21.760 is, uh, cut extra stuff to get it down to size.
00:28:26.720 But you can't really manipulate it after it comes back.
00:28:30.700 So unlike live action, you've got a six-month wait before you can make your first adjustment.
00:28:37.560 And, and we did make adjustments.
00:28:40.700 So we'd get it back, and we'd think,
00:28:42.720 Oh, wow, I was sure this would work.
00:28:45.440 Because it looked like, it looked good on paper,
00:28:47.440 but it didn't work once it got to the screen.
00:28:50.580 So I'd say, all right, I'll do less of that.
00:28:53.300 But, uh, this thing I didn't think would work.
00:28:55.340 Worked really well, so we'll do more of that kind of thing.
00:28:57.760 So by the second season, now both of these were half seasons,
00:29:01.800 but that's a detail you don't need.
00:29:03.700 So by the second season, uh, we had corrected
00:29:07.640 all the things that weren't good in the first season.
00:29:11.400 So the second season was much better.
00:29:13.600 All right, so here's the setup.
00:29:15.400 First season, good enough ratings to be renewed.
00:29:18.780 But the content, I would say, was just, all right, it was pretty good.
00:29:25.640 But the second season was actually quite good.
00:29:29.000 And in the world of animation, that demonstrates, you know,
00:29:32.560 you probably have a pretty big hit on your hand.
00:29:35.700 But that's the, that's the time that they decided to be the African-American network.
00:29:39.980 And we lost our time slot because it wasn't a administrative communication error,
00:29:47.980 as I was told.
00:29:49.920 Well, I think there was some of that involved.
00:29:52.960 But don't you, don't you imagine that Dilbert would be the show
00:29:57.540 that would lose its time slot because that's how you kill a show.
00:30:01.320 You move its time slot.
00:30:02.980 That's, it's well-known in TV world that if you move something's time slot,
00:30:07.000 the ratings plummet.
00:30:08.600 It happens pretty much every time unless you're moving it to like a premium slot.
00:30:13.820 Then it could go up.
00:30:14.680 So the ratings plunged because the time slot was moved.
00:30:20.460 At the same time, they were considering being an African-American network
00:30:23.420 in which Dilbert would obviously not be the right product.
00:30:27.340 So, was racism involved?
00:30:33.120 Hard to say, isn't it?
00:30:35.420 Hard to say.
00:30:37.800 And I wouldn't even make the claim, except I know it lights people's hair on fire.
00:30:43.380 And it's very much of the type that you hear all the time.
00:30:47.460 How often have you heard someone else make a claim, not me,
00:30:52.100 but someone else make a claim of discrimination,
00:30:54.040 and you listen to the story and you say to yourself,
00:30:56.880 maybe, you know, it could be.
00:31:00.400 But you know what else it could be?
00:31:02.420 You know what else it could be?
00:31:04.540 Could be you're not good at your job.
00:31:06.160 So what did people say to me when I made that claim?
00:31:12.260 The writers and the artists went crazy, and they said,
00:31:14.680 no, it's because you weren't good.
00:31:16.460 It's because the show wasn't good.
00:31:18.260 I said, look at your ratings in the final year,
00:31:20.880 which, of course, is my point, too.
00:31:23.000 Once they move the time slot, the ratings go down.
00:31:25.820 So, of course, it gets canceled.
00:31:27.540 It got canceled for low ratings,
00:31:29.540 but it had low ratings because the time slot was moved.
00:31:32.760 Why was the time slot moved?
00:31:34.080 Well, I can think of one reason.
00:31:36.660 It would have made sense in their strategy,
00:31:38.560 which was stated to be an African-American programming network.
00:31:44.240 So, now that I've got people's hair on fire
00:31:47.400 for this sketchy claim that, of course, I can't prove,
00:31:51.540 it's exactly like all the other things that can't be proved to my ears.
00:31:57.040 So if you'd like to know how it sounds to me
00:32:00.220 when I hear somebody make a claim,
00:32:03.100 I just taught you.
00:32:05.400 That's how it sounds.
00:32:06.880 It sounds like, I don't know, Scott.
00:32:09.460 I think maybe your show wasn't good.
00:32:12.660 Maybe consider that.
00:32:15.000 That's exactly what it sounds
00:32:16.940 when I hear other people's complaints.
00:32:20.080 And let me be perfectly clear.
00:32:22.160 It doesn't mean your complaints are wrong.
00:32:24.300 It doesn't mean your complaints are wrong.
00:32:28.480 Because I don't know if mine was right or wrong.
00:32:31.540 I actually don't know.
00:32:33.340 Can I prove that I was disadvantaged in any way?
00:32:37.720 I can't, really?
00:32:40.600 So if somebody says,
00:32:41.880 Scott, you can't prove that.
00:32:43.340 I have to say,
00:32:44.880 Hey, guess what?
00:32:47.260 That's the fucking point.
00:32:50.300 That's the fucking point.
00:32:52.700 Now, let's get to the fun part.
00:32:55.320 This allowed me to draw a lot of fire.
00:32:59.700 What happens when somebody who is a trained persuader
00:33:02.880 draws energy to themselves,
00:33:05.980 even when it's negative?
00:33:08.380 Yeah.
00:33:08.760 What happens when you draw negative energy to yourself?
00:33:12.700 Well, you could be like Joe Rogan,
00:33:16.540 who draws both positive and negative energy,
00:33:18.900 and he just made a $100 million deal with Spotify.
00:33:24.420 So that's what he did with negative energy.
00:33:27.780 You could be like candidate Trump,
00:33:30.980 who turned negative energy into the presidency of the United States.
00:33:34.900 You could do that.
00:33:36.440 Or you could do what I did.
00:33:38.660 And that was to set a trap for Ida Bay-Wells,
00:33:42.980 who she's been covering race for the 1619 Project.
00:33:49.980 She calls herself the Beyonce of journalism.
00:33:52.640 This is just in her profile.
00:33:55.600 And she's the co-founder of something,
00:33:59.640 the 1619 Project, I guess.
00:34:02.120 So she writes for the New York Times Magazine,
00:34:04.060 so she's involved with writing about race and racism.
00:34:08.060 And she replies to me,
00:34:09.580 you're, let's see, what was her first reply to this?
00:34:16.200 It was, you're absolutely right.
00:34:20.460 That is why white men are totally underrepresented
00:34:23.080 in supervisory positions,
00:34:25.280 high-paying jobs, corporate management.
00:34:27.740 I mean, they're practically unicorns.
00:34:30.400 Now, was there anything I said
00:34:33.320 that suggested that I believed
00:34:36.340 that senior management was diverse?
00:34:42.400 100% of what I said agreed with her comment,
00:34:45.420 which was there was no diversity.
00:34:48.100 There's not much diversity in Hollywood, right?
00:34:51.960 That was the whole reason that UPN thought,
00:34:54.960 well, let's be an African-American network.
00:34:57.620 The whole point was they thought
00:34:59.060 it was an underfilled category.
00:35:01.260 So everything she's saying is what I say.
00:35:04.320 In fact, that's why I lost my two corporate careers.
00:35:09.140 I lost them because there were so many white people,
00:35:12.460 white men in senior management
00:35:14.800 that they said, hey, too many.
00:35:18.200 You know, we've got to hold off.
00:35:19.900 So that's why I lost my banking
00:35:21.820 and my telecommunication jobs.
00:35:25.740 But the other thing that everybody accused me of
00:35:29.160 was asking for pity
00:35:31.300 and running a pity party.
00:35:34.720 To which I say,
00:35:36.220 I've never asked for pity.
00:35:39.740 Have you ever heard me
00:35:42.100 ask for sympathy?
00:35:45.180 I'm just telling you my story.
00:35:47.960 But, are you waiting for the good part?
00:35:51.620 Here's the good part.
00:35:52.560 I tweeted Ida Baywell's comment,
00:35:59.020 her first comment.
00:36:00.380 I think that was her second comment, actually.
00:36:02.560 And I pinned it to my profile
00:36:05.520 and I asked people to say
00:36:07.200 if they had a similar experience
00:36:09.600 of being discriminated against
00:36:12.080 because they were white and male.
00:36:16.100 Do you think anybody had any stories?
00:36:17.880 Let me see how many we've got so far.
00:36:23.460 Let's see.
00:36:26.700 And this was the culmination of the whole point.
00:36:31.240 So there were about 1,600 comments.
00:36:35.100 And I'll just scroll down,
00:36:37.760 catch somebody in the middle.
00:36:40.160 So these are people who said
00:36:41.580 they were white men
00:36:42.520 who were discriminated against
00:36:44.240 and lost a job for it.
00:36:45.720 Almost all of them
00:36:47.580 say that they were told directly.
00:36:50.480 Right?
00:36:51.320 So almost all of these
00:36:52.920 were told directly.
00:36:57.060 Let's see.
00:36:58.040 Yep, it happened to me.
00:36:59.720 Yeah, when I was a state employee.
00:37:01.500 Blah, blah, blah.
00:37:03.800 I have all these rejections
00:37:05.480 saying the same thing.
00:37:06.580 Exactly the same thing
00:37:07.620 happened to my dad.
00:37:09.600 Blah, blah, blah.
00:37:10.200 As a police department.
00:37:12.220 I once applied for a job.
00:37:13.600 Blah, blah, blah.
00:37:14.100 Blah, blah, blah.
00:37:15.100 Wrong demographic.
00:37:16.920 Same here.
00:37:18.100 Blah, blah, blah.
00:37:21.260 Blah.
00:37:21.820 I was passed over
00:37:23.060 for a less experience.
00:37:24.920 Blah, blah, blah.
00:37:26.360 So just on my little...
00:37:29.520 Yeah, you can see in the comments.
00:37:32.120 So here's the red pill
00:37:34.140 of all red pills.
00:37:35.260 Are you ready for it?
00:37:37.020 It's the red pill of red pills.
00:37:38.860 And by the way,
00:37:39.400 what I'm going to say next,
00:37:42.080 I couldn't say
00:37:44.040 until I had set up
00:37:46.860 this chain of events
00:37:48.060 so that I could post this tweet
00:37:50.820 in context.
00:37:52.720 So I had a contact
00:37:53.780 so I could tweet it
00:37:54.740 and say,
00:37:55.060 hey,
00:37:55.840 anybody have the same experience?
00:37:57.820 And I had to create
00:37:58.680 a whole series of events
00:37:59.980 just to be free to say that
00:38:01.780 because I don't have
00:38:02.340 freedom of speech
00:38:03.160 the way other people do.
00:38:04.900 And now I can say this.
00:38:08.800 It's one of the biggest
00:38:09.840 discriminations in the world
00:38:11.220 against white men.
00:38:13.640 But the trick
00:38:15.080 that is being played on us
00:38:17.080 is that if you lost a job
00:38:19.440 because you're a white man,
00:38:21.900 well, fuck you
00:38:22.960 because there are rich men
00:38:24.420 that are not you.
00:38:26.480 You understand that reasoning, right?
00:38:29.000 You were passed over for a job
00:38:30.940 so your life was impacted
00:38:32.280 by a racist decision.
00:38:34.140 They were trying to fix
00:38:36.660 a past injustice.
00:38:38.680 We all get that.
00:38:40.200 In fact, I agree
00:38:41.480 with some reverse discrimination.
00:38:43.640 I'm not even opposed to it.
00:38:45.400 I'm just saying it exists
00:38:46.700 and it's way bigger
00:38:48.560 than you think it is.
00:38:50.500 The fact is
00:38:51.580 that white people
00:38:52.360 have not been allowed
00:38:53.300 to complain.
00:38:55.340 But here's what you got wrong.
00:38:58.980 Once things got to the point
00:39:01.520 where George Washington
00:39:02.640 is being torn down
00:39:03.640 and Mount Rushmore
00:39:04.920 is being threatened,
00:39:06.780 now it is no longer
00:39:08.200 a power imbalance
00:39:09.740 where if you're a white male,
00:39:12.400 you just couldn't talk
00:39:13.500 because you were considered
00:39:15.000 part of the elite
00:39:16.040 and you didn't have free speech.
00:39:18.980 But as your power in society
00:39:22.100 subsides,
00:39:23.060 and it's happening
00:39:23.720 in real time right now,
00:39:25.420 the power of being
00:39:26.840 a white male
00:39:27.760 in the United States
00:39:28.880 would anybody argue
00:39:31.120 is at least heading
00:39:32.940 in the direction of lower.
00:39:34.760 So whatever you thought
00:39:36.180 it was before
00:39:36.800 is certainly going lower.
00:39:37.920 So that frees up
00:39:42.040 some free speech
00:39:43.300 because whoever is
00:39:44.760 the most downtrodden
00:39:45.980 in our society
00:39:47.260 gets the most free speech.
00:39:49.880 Right?
00:39:50.200 The president,
00:39:51.200 the most powerful,
00:39:52.420 he has to be
00:39:53.100 the most careful,
00:39:54.400 or she,
00:39:55.380 has to be the most careful
00:39:56.700 about how they talk.
00:39:57.920 But if you were,
00:40:00.680 let's say,
00:40:01.260 a black man in America,
00:40:03.680 you can kind of say anything.
00:40:06.100 Right?
00:40:07.280 You can kind of say anything
00:40:08.800 because traditionally
00:40:11.040 you've got so much
00:40:12.160 working against you
00:40:13.160 that people will say,
00:40:14.800 yeah, okay.
00:40:16.520 But the more presumed
00:40:18.720 or actual power you have,
00:40:20.280 the less free speech you have.
00:40:22.060 It just works that way.
00:40:24.620 So I can say now
00:40:26.260 something I couldn't say before.
00:40:27.920 Which is that,
00:40:29.320 although I'm not
00:40:29.880 personally complaining,
00:40:32.000 it was a series of events
00:40:33.800 which led me,
00:40:35.320 because I had enough options,
00:40:37.260 to succeed in a better way
00:40:39.020 than working in a cubicle.
00:40:40.740 So for me,
00:40:41.680 it worked out great
00:40:42.500 in the long run.
00:40:44.140 Right?
00:40:44.600 I'm not sure it works out great
00:40:46.100 for everybody else.
00:40:47.480 But what I would like to suggest
00:40:49.240 is that it is super racist
00:40:51.720 to overlook
00:40:54.600 all of the white men
00:40:56.580 and others.
00:40:57.980 You know,
00:40:58.660 not just white men,
00:41:00.000 but a number of the examples
00:41:01.680 were Asian Americans
00:41:03.560 and women
00:41:04.400 who were having
00:41:05.040 the same experience.
00:41:07.380 So it wasn't just white men.
00:41:09.840 But
00:41:10.100 there's a massive amount
00:41:12.740 of serious,
00:41:14.220 direct discrimination
00:41:15.800 going on.
00:41:17.340 and the reasoning
00:41:20.040 given for it
00:41:20.880 is that
00:41:21.580 you have to pay
00:41:23.060 for the sins
00:41:24.460 of some strangers
00:41:25.360 who have also
00:41:26.660 white skin,
00:41:27.800 which is the most
00:41:28.860 super racist thing
00:41:30.000 you've ever heard
00:41:30.680 in your life.
00:41:31.940 Super racist.
00:41:33.540 But we can say that now.
00:41:35.680 Couldn't really say that before.
00:41:37.720 All right,
00:41:38.020 so that was the whole point
00:41:39.040 of that.
00:41:39.440 And I felt bad
00:41:42.280 because there were
00:41:42.980 actually some
00:41:43.600 well-intentioned people
00:41:44.860 who were trying to
00:41:45.740 figure out
00:41:46.620 if my example
00:41:47.320 was real or not.
00:41:48.880 And I felt bad
00:41:49.880 because I was kind of
00:41:50.580 pranking,
00:41:51.800 you know,
00:41:52.300 pranking people
00:41:53.080 with that third example.
00:41:54.620 But the third example
00:41:55.560 was to draw attention
00:41:56.500 to the other two.
00:41:58.180 The third example
00:41:58.840 might be true as well.
00:42:00.060 I just don't know.
00:42:01.600 I don't know,
00:42:03.200 but I know that
00:42:04.000 it got people's hair
00:42:04.920 on fire.
00:42:06.100 That's what I wanted.
00:42:07.220 Here's an interesting
00:42:07.980 factoid.
00:42:09.380 The Iranian budget
00:42:11.540 is 50,
00:42:12.660 no,
00:42:13.780 they have an income
00:42:15.320 for the government.
00:42:16.960 So this is what
00:42:17.740 the government
00:42:18.180 has to spend.
00:42:19.440 Oil revenue
00:42:20.200 and tax income
00:42:21.320 combined,
00:42:21.980 57 billion.
00:42:23.700 So that's the annual
00:42:24.680 amount that Iran
00:42:25.580 has to spend,
00:42:26.960 57 billion.
00:42:28.720 Their budget
00:42:29.680 is 480 billion.
00:42:33.380 And the problem,
00:42:35.140 of course,
00:42:35.540 is that oil prices
00:42:36.560 are low,
00:42:37.120 but also that
00:42:37.880 their economy
00:42:39.060 suffers from
00:42:39.940 all the sanctions.
00:42:41.660 So how long
00:42:42.380 can Iran
00:42:43.600 just continue
00:42:46.700 as a country
00:42:47.900 if they're making
00:42:49.520 57 billion a year
00:42:51.020 by spending
00:42:51.580 480 billion?
00:42:53.140 And I have to think
00:42:54.340 that they're going
00:42:56.020 to prune back
00:42:56.920 their support
00:42:58.100 of, you know,
00:42:59.400 adventurous
00:43:00.000 terrorism
00:43:01.580 just because
00:43:03.040 they can't afford it.
00:43:04.160 So is the
00:43:05.420 president's plan
00:43:06.420 totally working
00:43:07.380 because it sort
00:43:09.100 of looks like
00:43:09.640 it is.
00:43:10.760 It sort of looks
00:43:11.760 like squeezing
00:43:12.820 around is
00:43:13.380 totally working.
00:43:14.980 I don't know.
00:43:19.340 Let's see.
00:43:23.320 I'm sure I had a few
00:43:24.520 other things
00:43:25.040 on here.
00:43:25.480 So TikTok
00:43:32.460 just got banned
00:43:33.840 in India.
00:43:36.540 Do you know
00:43:37.260 how big a deal
00:43:37.880 that is?
00:43:38.820 So TikTok
00:43:39.480 was banned
00:43:40.240 in India
00:43:40.700 along with,
00:43:41.440 I don't know,
00:43:41.700 50 other apps
00:43:43.000 that had a
00:43:44.200 Chinese connection
00:43:45.120 because it allowed
00:43:46.100 China to gather
00:43:47.740 data, I think,
00:43:48.660 and spy on people
00:43:49.600 and God knows
00:43:50.760 what else.
00:43:51.220 So how long
00:43:52.660 do you think
00:43:53.080 TikTok is going
00:43:54.220 to last
00:43:54.820 in the United
00:43:56.440 States?
00:43:58.720 Tic-tac.
00:43:59.320 I said
00:43:59.580 Tic-tac again.
00:44:00.380 TikTok.
00:44:01.100 How long
00:44:01.640 do you think
00:44:01.980 TikTok
00:44:02.400 is going
00:44:03.900 to last
00:44:04.660 and still
00:44:05.580 be legal
00:44:06.080 to use
00:44:06.520 in the United
00:44:06.900 States?
00:44:08.740 I don't think
00:44:09.520 long.
00:44:10.540 Now here's
00:44:11.120 the most
00:44:11.480 interesting thing
00:44:12.320 that came
00:44:12.720 out of that.
00:44:14.160 So Balaji
00:44:15.480 Srinivasan
00:44:16.700 and Naval
00:44:17.780 Ravikant,
00:44:19.100 if you don't
00:44:20.780 know those
00:44:21.280 two names,
00:44:23.080 then you
00:44:23.540 don't know
00:44:23.840 anything about
00:44:24.320 Silicon Valley.
00:44:25.860 But I just
00:44:27.120 mentioned two
00:44:27.660 of the smartest,
00:44:29.300 most successful
00:44:29.940 people in
00:44:30.620 Silicon Valley.
00:44:32.140 And they
00:44:33.320 said they're
00:44:33.840 open to
00:44:34.340 looking at
00:44:34.740 business plans,
00:44:36.160 investments,
00:44:37.280 for people
00:44:37.920 who make
00:44:38.540 a competitor,
00:44:42.040 an American
00:44:42.660 version of a
00:44:43.520 competitor,
00:44:44.280 to these
00:44:44.680 Chinese apps.
00:44:45.580 so goodbye
00:44:49.620 Chinese apps.
00:44:52.080 So no
00:44:52.880 matter whether
00:44:54.320 or not the
00:44:56.800 government bans
00:44:57.660 the Chinese
00:44:58.280 apps, I
00:44:59.160 think that's
00:44:59.800 just a
00:45:00.440 guarantee.
00:45:01.300 I can't
00:45:01.880 imagine that's
00:45:02.520 not in the
00:45:03.180 pipeline, and
00:45:04.320 I can't
00:45:04.820 imagine it's
00:45:05.480 not going to
00:45:05.860 happen soon.
00:45:07.040 So that's
00:45:07.520 probably going
00:45:08.020 to happen.
00:45:09.000 And it
00:45:09.880 looks like the
00:45:10.760 smartest people
00:45:11.380 in Silicon
00:45:11.900 Valley just
00:45:12.760 put the green
00:45:15.120 light on
00:45:15.920 business plans
00:45:17.360 for competitors.
00:45:19.040 So let's
00:45:20.480 watch the
00:45:20.920 smartest people
00:45:21.620 in America
00:45:22.240 just take
00:45:24.480 that off the
00:45:25.060 table.
00:45:26.680 Just take
00:45:27.840 those apps
00:45:28.500 just right
00:45:29.180 out of the
00:45:29.520 game.
00:45:30.400 Now it's
00:45:30.640 not going to
00:45:30.940 happen right
00:45:31.420 away, and
00:45:32.780 it probably
00:45:33.120 does require
00:45:33.760 the government
00:45:34.600 to ban
00:45:35.220 the ones
00:45:35.660 that are
00:45:35.980 coming from
00:45:36.460 China.
00:45:37.660 But capitalism
00:45:38.840 is going to
00:45:39.560 do its
00:45:39.840 thing.
00:45:40.140 So
00:45:46.060 Washington
00:45:46.600 Post
00:45:47.080 Global
00:45:47.680 Opinion
00:45:48.200 Senator
00:45:48.700 Karen
00:45:49.700 Attia, so
00:45:51.520 something she
00:45:52.160 said recently
00:45:53.280 was, quote,
00:45:54.720 in a tweet,
00:45:55.400 I guess, I
00:45:56.000 think she
00:45:56.300 took it
00:45:56.620 out, but
00:45:57.520 the tweet
00:45:57.820 said,
00:45:58.280 white women
00:45:58.700 are lucky
00:45:59.200 that we
00:46:00.000 are just
00:46:00.340 calling them
00:46:00.880 Karens and
00:46:01.700 not calling
00:46:02.240 for revenge
00:46:03.120 in a since
00:46:04.880 deleted tweet.
00:46:05.700 Now, imagine
00:46:08.060 if you
00:46:10.660 were not
00:46:11.340 a black
00:46:13.020 woman who
00:46:13.560 is an
00:46:14.260 opinion
00:46:14.580 editor at
00:46:15.380 the Washington
00:46:15.920 Post.
00:46:17.060 Who else
00:46:17.500 could say
00:46:17.900 that and
00:46:18.320 still keep
00:46:18.760 their job?
00:46:19.540 I mean, she
00:46:19.820 deleted the
00:46:20.440 tweet, but
00:46:21.760 I can't
00:46:22.180 imagine a
00:46:23.700 white person
00:46:24.300 being able to
00:46:24.840 say that and
00:46:25.400 keep their
00:46:25.760 job.
00:46:27.740 So keep
00:46:29.520 an eye on
00:46:29.960 that.
00:46:32.620 So that's
00:46:33.660 a little
00:46:34.200 freedom of
00:46:34.760 speech that
00:46:35.360 some people
00:46:35.860 have, that
00:46:36.300 not everybody
00:46:36.780 has.
00:46:37.740 So I was
00:46:39.520 complaining about
00:46:41.220 the treatment
00:46:41.820 that the
00:46:42.960 Daily Beast
00:46:43.600 gave to
00:46:44.240 Van Jones.
00:46:46.040 And I
00:46:46.520 was saying
00:46:46.900 that, so
00:46:48.040 their claim
00:46:48.820 was that he
00:46:49.480 had advised
00:46:50.280 the White
00:46:50.740 House on
00:46:51.320 the police
00:46:53.140 reform
00:46:53.820 executive
00:46:54.480 order, and
00:46:55.640 then he
00:46:55.960 had said
00:46:56.300 good things
00:46:56.780 about it
00:46:57.140 on TV
00:46:57.620 without
00:46:58.040 disclosing
00:46:58.820 that he
00:46:59.220 had advised
00:46:59.980 them on
00:47:00.400 it.
00:47:01.140 So I
00:47:01.760 had said,
00:47:02.740 you know,
00:47:02.960 how disgusting
00:47:03.580 are the
00:47:03.960 Daily Beast
00:47:04.580 people don't
00:47:05.960 brag about
00:47:07.020 advising the
00:47:07.940 White House.
00:47:09.000 It's just
00:47:09.560 not done.
00:47:10.800 And if he
00:47:11.160 liked the
00:47:11.620 outcome, well
00:47:12.640 just, why
00:47:13.320 not?
00:47:14.160 He liked the
00:47:14.780 outcome.
00:47:15.360 What's he
00:47:15.620 going to do?
00:47:16.080 Say he
00:47:16.340 doesn't like
00:47:16.780 the outcome
00:47:17.180 when he
00:47:17.520 likes the
00:47:17.880 outcome?
00:47:18.580 So I
00:47:19.040 was saying
00:47:19.360 it was just
00:47:20.700 a hit piece
00:47:21.360 over nothing.
00:47:22.540 But then
00:47:22.880 Van Jones
00:47:23.480 clarified that
00:47:24.840 he had
00:47:25.120 nothing to
00:47:25.640 do with
00:47:26.020 the executive
00:47:26.800 order.
00:47:27.960 And that
00:47:28.200 apparently they
00:47:29.500 reported they
00:47:30.160 saw him going
00:47:30.800 to the White
00:47:31.200 House.
00:47:31.460 he's been
00:47:32.220 nowhere near
00:47:33.140 even Washington
00:47:34.160 D.C.
00:47:35.020 The entire
00:47:36.080 story was
00:47:36.760 just made
00:47:37.180 up.
00:47:38.500 The entire
00:47:39.000 story was
00:47:39.540 just made
00:47:40.000 up.
00:47:41.140 Can you
00:47:41.680 freaking
00:47:41.900 believe that?
00:47:42.920 From the
00:47:43.340 Daily Beast.
00:47:44.460 They just
00:47:45.420 picked a
00:47:45.920 guy to do
00:47:47.460 a hit piece
00:47:48.020 on and
00:47:49.100 literally just
00:47:49.780 made up
00:47:50.440 stuff and
00:47:51.380 then wrote
00:47:51.800 an article on
00:47:53.200 the stuff
00:47:53.580 they made
00:47:54.100 up.
00:47:56.500 Doesn't that
00:47:57.660 just make your
00:47:58.160 head spin?
00:47:58.660 And that
00:47:59.520 the Daily
00:47:59.920 Beast is
00:48:00.400 still in
00:48:00.820 business.
00:48:02.340 People read
00:48:04.040 it and they
00:48:04.460 think they're
00:48:04.780 getting news
00:48:05.360 and stuff.
00:48:06.420 They think
00:48:06.760 that there's
00:48:07.180 something real
00:48:08.200 in it.
00:48:09.540 It's kind
00:48:10.220 of mind
00:48:10.540 boggling.
00:48:14.300 Anyway.
00:48:16.320 So that's
00:48:18.460 what that's
00:48:18.920 all about.
00:48:22.100 Yeah.
00:48:23.460 Yeah.
00:48:24.120 Somebody in
00:48:24.600 the comments
00:48:25.080 is making me
00:48:25.780 laugh.
00:48:26.860 Speaking of
00:48:27.440 the Steele
00:48:27.840 dossier,
00:48:28.660 let me
00:48:29.120 ask you
00:48:29.520 this.
00:48:31.640 So this
00:48:32.440 is where
00:48:33.180 the second
00:48:34.000 cycle
00:48:35.240 of, or
00:48:37.280 is it the
00:48:37.840 third, if
00:48:38.680 you count
00:48:39.000 Ukraine
00:48:39.560 indirectly,
00:48:41.100 of Russia
00:48:42.140 being pulled
00:48:42.780 into American
00:48:43.560 politics.
00:48:45.660 Who has
00:48:46.600 an interest
00:48:47.180 in pulling
00:48:47.860 Russia into
00:48:48.900 American
00:48:49.520 politics?
00:48:51.940 Who has
00:48:53.000 that interest?
00:48:54.160 Now you're
00:48:54.500 saying to
00:48:54.760 yourself,
00:48:55.240 well,
00:48:55.520 obviously,
00:48:56.940 the Democrats.
00:48:57.760 the Democrats
00:48:58.900 have an
00:48:59.280 interest because
00:49:00.240 it works
00:49:00.720 pretty well.
00:49:01.760 Gets their
00:49:02.180 base fired
00:49:02.680 up, throw
00:49:03.680 a little more
00:49:04.180 Russian stuff
00:49:04.840 on there.
00:49:05.280 And I would
00:49:05.600 say to
00:49:05.840 yourself,
00:49:06.740 yeah, yeah.
00:49:08.500 But I would
00:49:09.560 say the Democrats
00:49:10.400 are somewhat
00:49:11.720 agnostic about
00:49:12.900 how they attack
00:49:14.060 the president.
00:49:14.640 I feel as if
00:49:16.360 they would use
00:49:17.280 whatever they
00:49:17.940 thought worked.
00:49:19.500 It could be
00:49:20.240 Russia, it
00:49:20.780 could be
00:49:21.020 something else.
00:49:22.020 But is
00:49:22.400 really the
00:49:22.940 Russia stuff
00:49:23.640 the strongest
00:49:24.360 play?
00:49:25.780 Think about
00:49:26.560 how badly
00:49:27.300 the Democrats
00:49:29.580 got spanked
00:49:30.520 on the whole
00:49:30.980 Russia collusion
00:49:31.880 thing.
00:49:33.020 Do you think
00:49:33.860 that they would
00:49:34.340 say, you
00:49:35.200 know what,
00:49:36.080 I'd like to
00:49:37.080 do the Russia
00:49:37.700 collusion thing
00:49:38.540 again.
00:49:39.800 Let's do
00:49:40.460 some more
00:49:40.860 Russia stuff.
00:49:41.620 Do you feel
00:49:43.120 as if that
00:49:44.520 would be
00:49:44.920 their just
00:49:46.160 logical go-to?
00:49:47.500 Could be.
00:49:48.360 Can't rule
00:49:48.900 it out.
00:49:50.160 But let me
00:49:50.620 ask you
00:49:51.000 this.
00:49:52.860 What other
00:49:53.560 country would
00:49:55.100 like us to
00:49:55.840 be anti-Russia?
00:49:59.980 Some people
00:50:00.840 are saying
00:50:01.220 China.
00:50:03.160 Does that
00:50:03.900 fit?
00:50:05.260 Would
00:50:05.800 China like
00:50:07.920 the United
00:50:08.340 States to
00:50:09.000 be anti-Russia?
00:50:10.960 Well,
00:50:11.320 what would
00:50:12.240 we do?
00:50:14.340 Let's say
00:50:15.020 you're China.
00:50:15.680 What would
00:50:16.100 the United
00:50:16.520 States do
00:50:17.260 if they
00:50:18.100 thought Russia
00:50:18.740 was more
00:50:19.300 of a threat?
00:50:21.180 Build more
00:50:21.980 weapons?
00:50:23.180 Build up
00:50:23.620 our military?
00:50:25.640 Does
00:50:26.160 China want
00:50:27.200 the United
00:50:27.700 States to
00:50:28.400 build up
00:50:28.900 its military
00:50:29.660 even if
00:50:31.160 the point
00:50:31.620 of it
00:50:31.960 is that
00:50:32.740 part of
00:50:33.260 the threat
00:50:33.700 is Russia?
00:50:35.420 Maybe.
00:50:36.560 Maybe not.
00:50:38.020 So who
00:50:38.600 would be a
00:50:39.120 country
00:50:39.520 who would
00:50:40.780 like the
00:50:41.460 United
00:50:41.760 States
00:50:42.340 to build
00:50:43.420 up its
00:50:43.780 military
00:50:44.300 but would
00:50:46.400 be sort
00:50:47.320 of
00:50:48.000 concerned
00:50:50.100 about
00:50:50.420 Russia?
00:50:52.460 Somebody
00:50:53.300 who's had
00:50:54.360 a connection
00:50:55.220 to, for
00:50:56.800 example,
00:50:57.540 the
00:50:57.800 Steele
00:50:58.780 dossier?
00:50:59.260 Yeah.
00:51:03.300 Great
00:51:03.700 Britain.
00:51:05.500 Great
00:51:06.260 Britain is
00:51:07.720 the obvious
00:51:08.460 suspect
00:51:09.200 because
00:51:11.020 Great
00:51:11.380 Britain can
00:51:12.040 only survive
00:51:13.100 if the
00:51:13.860 United States
00:51:14.820 and through
00:51:17.100 its NATO
00:51:17.980 efforts has
00:51:19.400 a huge
00:51:19.960 military
00:51:20.580 deterrent
00:51:21.260 against
00:51:22.060 Russia
00:51:23.160 because who
00:51:24.220 else threatens
00:51:25.360 Great
00:51:25.880 Britain?
00:51:26.180 is it
00:51:27.340 France?
00:51:28.360 Is Great
00:51:28.860 Britain worried
00:51:29.360 about France?
00:51:30.980 No.
00:51:31.880 Not at the
00:51:32.680 moment.
00:51:33.140 Germany?
00:51:34.300 No.
00:51:35.400 No.
00:51:36.840 Is Europe
00:51:37.860 and Great
00:51:38.860 Britain in
00:51:39.260 particular
00:51:39.680 worried that
00:51:40.540 Russia might
00:51:41.440 get a little
00:51:41.900 adventurous?
00:51:44.200 Yes.
00:51:45.940 Is Great
00:51:46.760 Britain worried
00:51:47.300 about China?
00:51:48.280 Probably a
00:51:48.820 little bit.
00:51:49.860 But they
00:51:50.120 gave them,
00:51:50.840 you know,
00:51:51.120 they were
00:51:52.180 friendly with
00:51:53.160 Hong Kong.
00:51:53.840 It's like,
00:51:54.060 yeah,
00:51:54.320 it's a deal.
00:51:55.580 You take
00:51:55.940 it back.
00:51:56.820 We said
00:51:57.340 we'd give
00:51:57.720 it to
00:51:57.920 you.
00:51:59.420 So,
00:52:01.440 given that
00:52:02.340 the Steele
00:52:02.780 dossier
00:52:03.280 had a
00:52:03.740 British
00:52:04.040 connection,
00:52:05.200 it feels
00:52:05.900 like they
00:52:06.400 just come
00:52:06.980 up a lot.
00:52:08.260 And it
00:52:08.520 feels as
00:52:09.120 if anything
00:52:10.420 that directs
00:52:11.320 the United
00:52:11.860 States'
00:52:12.600 public
00:52:12.860 opinion
00:52:13.320 against
00:52:14.040 Russia
00:52:14.640 and against
00:52:16.200 President
00:52:16.760 Trump,
00:52:17.280 who they
00:52:17.600 might think
00:52:18.140 is a little
00:52:18.560 soft on
00:52:19.160 Russia,
00:52:20.440 you've
00:52:21.080 got to
00:52:21.340 look at
00:52:21.700 them first,
00:52:22.860 don't you?
00:52:23.400 so I'm
00:52:26.600 not blaming
00:52:27.660 them.
00:52:28.440 So,
00:52:28.780 obviously,
00:52:29.280 I don't
00:52:29.460 have any
00:52:29.860 inside
00:52:30.360 information
00:52:30.940 about this.
00:52:31.760 I'm just
00:52:32.120 saying if
00:52:32.520 you're just
00:52:32.820 looking at
00:52:33.300 the board
00:52:33.820 and you're
00:52:34.860 saying,
00:52:35.460 oh,
00:52:36.160 here's a
00:52:36.800 coincidence,
00:52:37.540 Russia story,
00:52:38.280 Russia story,
00:52:38.960 Russia story,
00:52:39.840 you'd think if
00:52:40.660 it worked
00:52:41.300 really well
00:52:41.980 the first
00:52:42.460 time,
00:52:42.800 you'd see
00:52:43.140 more of
00:52:43.540 it,
00:52:44.000 but it
00:52:44.700 didn't
00:52:45.060 work.
00:52:46.160 It was
00:52:46.620 sort of
00:52:46.960 an embarrassment
00:52:47.740 or did
00:52:49.380 it work?
00:52:50.140 I don't
00:52:50.440 know.
00:52:52.020 So,
00:52:52.940 I would
00:52:54.380 at least
00:52:54.780 say let's
00:52:55.940 keep that
00:52:56.400 in mind.
00:52:57.620 All right,
00:52:58.180 that's all I
00:52:58.620 got for now
00:52:59.140 and I will
00:52:59.660 see you
00:53:00.020 tomorrow and
00:53:00.620 I'm going
00:53:00.800 to try to
00:53:01.180 make the
00:53:01.680 interview with
00:53:02.440 Carson work.
00:53:03.960 I think I
00:53:04.760 figured out
00:53:05.140 what I was
00:53:05.480 doing wrong.
00:53:06.200 It was on
00:53:06.760 my end,
00:53:07.220 the problem
00:53:07.500 was,
00:53:08.240 and we'll
00:53:08.540 try that
00:53:08.880 tomorrow and
00:53:09.300 I'll see
00:53:09.740 you then.