Real Coffee with Scott Adams - August 02, 2020


Episode 1079 Scott Adams： HollowJoe, Future of Houses, Horses Stop Protestors


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

151.15323

Word Count

9,070

Sentence Count

546

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Oh, look at this.
00:00:03.240 Got chocolate on my face.
00:00:04.560 What the hell's up with that?
00:00:06.960 Sometimes I use my iPad as a little mirror.
00:00:11.100 Well, there we go.
00:00:13.380 Now, I know what you're thinking.
00:00:18.300 You're thinking to yourself, what a great morning.
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00:00:25.120 Starting out slow, but just getting better all day.
00:00:29.060 And one of the ways that it's going to get better is to kick it off right.
00:00:34.200 If you get it started right, well, everything goes well after that.
00:00:38.640 And what would you need, hypothetically, to start your day off really, really well?
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00:01:14.500 Wow.
00:01:23.160 I don't know.
00:01:24.660 Is it my imagination or does it get better every time?
00:01:28.460 I think it does.
00:01:29.540 So, story number one, no one cares about athletes kneeling.
00:01:40.420 Nobody gives a darn.
00:01:42.520 Do you remember when Kaepernick started off the kneeling thing?
00:01:49.560 And it was a big national story and the president weighed in and we couldn't stop talking about it.
00:01:56.400 It's really different now, isn't it?
00:01:59.580 It's almost like those are completely separate things because when Kaepernick did it, I said to myself, you know, if I'm being objective, I always say good things about President Trump's persuasion talents.
00:02:14.080 And I'll say it about the other team as well.
00:02:16.520 AOC, very good, for example.
00:02:20.140 And Kaepernick, in my opinion, very, very effective for what he was trying to get done, which was raise attention, et cetera.
00:02:29.420 And the fact that it was inappropriate and that it offended the sensibilities of lots of people was what made it a good protest.
00:02:38.960 Nobody got hurt.
00:02:40.900 You know, there was no physical damage.
00:02:42.860 There was no violence.
00:02:44.360 No laws got changed.
00:02:46.360 He simply did an act which lots of people found gross, which is why he got attention, which is why it worked.
00:02:57.660 But that was then.
00:02:59.420 And do you see what's really, really, really different about now?
00:03:05.820 What's different is that was the worst thing that was happening at the time.
00:03:11.460 Things were so good, relatively speaking, compared to 2020.
00:03:17.980 Things were so good that we had the luxury of arguing and fighting with each other about nothing.
00:03:26.180 Just nothing.
00:03:26.980 Now, I'm not saying that the issue is nothing.
00:03:29.660 The issue was a thing.
00:03:30.740 You know, it's certainly worthy of attention and, you know, the best resolution we can get to have the safest policing situation that we can have for everybody, of course.
00:03:41.080 But it was also, it just seemed big because life was sort of going along all right.
00:03:49.440 We just had the luxury of complaining about politics.
00:03:53.100 It was sort of a sport.
00:03:54.420 But now we're in the middle of a pandemic and economic calamity of some sort.
00:03:59.960 I think we'll get over it.
00:04:00.980 But at the moment, when you see everybody kneeling, when you see entire teams do it, it doesn't register a little differently.
00:04:11.140 At this point, it's moved from this Kaepernick, you know, A-plus persuasion thing, even if you didn't like it, to more of a performance art sort of situation, wouldn't you say?
00:04:24.680 It feels more like theater.
00:04:29.280 So when you see all the people kneeling, well, let me put it in this frame.
00:04:34.020 When Kaepernick kneeled, or knelt, and a few others did, and it wasn't that many, it was obvious that this was an insult to the flag.
00:04:45.560 Would you agree?
00:04:46.580 It was obvious that the intention was to insult the flag to get some attention, for a good cause, I think.
00:04:57.300 But when everybody does it, it doesn't look like that anymore to me.
00:05:01.480 And I think that other people would have the same impression.
00:05:04.920 I don't want to make the universal, what I call the number one problem with understanding reality.
00:05:12.340 If there's one biggest problem we all have, it's imagining that other people think the way we think.
00:05:20.440 And then the world doesn't make sense.
00:05:22.520 But people are really different.
00:05:24.380 So I'm going on a limb and thinking that most people will have the same impression that I'm describing that I'm having, which is when a few people protest, they are insulting your flag.
00:05:37.140 And if you take that personally, well, that's the point.
00:05:41.140 That's the point.
00:05:42.520 You're supposed to take it personally.
00:05:44.300 That's why it works.
00:05:45.440 But when everybody does it, that doesn't feel personal anymore to me.
00:05:51.140 And it also, and here's the key, it doesn't feel aimed at the flag.
00:05:56.640 It doesn't.
00:05:58.140 It feels when everybody does it, because they're not activists, they're just people trying to, you know, get along and do what they think is right and the best thing they can do and get along with their teammates and not cause trouble.
00:06:10.300 You know, it really is more about solidarity with the point that there's something that needs to get fixed.
00:06:18.460 So I think when you take it from the few people to everybody doing it, it no longer is about the flag.
00:06:25.180 It's no longer really about the country.
00:06:27.160 It's really about the problem.
00:06:29.060 And if you don't see that shift from I hate your flag to, all right, we're all on board.
00:06:35.400 Let's just look at the problem.
00:06:36.580 So, you know, let's support the, you know, the thought and the energy behind it.
00:06:42.120 So I was asked online whether that would be an impact on the election.
00:06:49.720 And in my opinion, it will have no impact on the election because all of the other things are just so much bigger.
00:06:56.380 And this morphed from something edgy into something that's more like theater and not really, not important in any way.
00:07:04.440 The issue is important, but not the way they're doing it.
00:07:08.060 All right.
00:07:09.280 The president is claiming that we'll have maybe 400 border, 400 miles of border fence built by the end of the year.
00:07:20.460 How long is the border?
00:07:21.900 Is it border 2,000 miles?
00:07:27.140 And I don't know how much of that already had fence and how much is replacement fence, you know, because we live in a world in which all data is wrong.
00:07:36.500 So I'm not going to apply that just to the other team.
00:07:41.860 But all data is wrong.
00:07:43.060 So when you hear that there's 400 miles of fence built, well, what's that mean?
00:07:48.440 How much is replacement?
00:07:49.940 How much is new?
00:07:51.440 How much is in the places we needed it most?
00:07:53.700 I mean, really, you just can't trust any data in 2020.
00:07:59.240 But it's a big number.
00:08:00.520 Whatever it is, it's hundreds, hundreds of miles.
00:08:03.700 And if I had to look at the president's performance toward his, really, I'd say his key campaign promise, which was border security, at the end, well, let's say by November, what are you going to think about it?
00:08:21.500 Because here's my take on it.
00:08:23.280 The president has done maybe better than any president has ever done at saying, this is what I'm going to do, and then actually doing it.
00:08:34.240 You could argue that those things should not be done.
00:08:37.160 That's what the Democrats would argue.
00:08:39.520 But I think we're actually past the point with this president where people could legitimately say he promised he would do this, but he didn't do it.
00:08:50.580 Now, I would say health care is still a big looming hole, and he's even done at least something with that, with the pharmaceutical stuff.
00:09:00.460 And that could be huge, actually.
00:09:02.520 But I think he's a little short on the health care stuff.
00:09:07.700 But did he try to and successfully remove the mandate?
00:09:12.640 Yeah, he did.
00:09:13.780 Did he try as hard as he could to end Obamacare, to turn it into something else?
00:09:21.720 I think yes.
00:09:23.180 So even when he maybe didn't get everything that you thought he wanted, such as immigration and health care, it does look like he's taking big swings at it.
00:09:35.540 It does look like the energy is there.
00:09:37.340 It does look like the intention is there.
00:09:39.720 There's nothing about any of these things that would suggest they were false promises.
00:09:45.680 It looks like stuff he meant and stuff he's at least trying to do.
00:09:50.180 Now, if you're Ann Coulter, you're a bitter critic of his immigration stuff because it hasn't been completed, hasn't been done well enough.
00:10:00.900 And that's true.
00:10:01.860 But in November, who would you trust to get it done?
00:10:08.280 Would you trust to get it done the one who doesn't want to do it, Biden?
00:10:12.880 Or would you trust to get it done the one who did some of it and is clearly interested and engaged and cares about it, etc.?
00:10:23.140 And I think that's Trump.
00:10:24.620 Now, I don't know if I've ever given my own opinions about immigration.
00:10:28.700 I'm not sure I actually ever have in public.
00:10:30.740 But let me give it to you this way.
00:10:33.440 I tend to look at things as systems and not goals.
00:10:37.780 A goal would be stop immigration, stop illegal immigration.
00:10:42.920 And you can see why somebody would want to do that.
00:10:46.140 I would see it more as a system, meaning that the United States doesn't currently have a system that puts the citizens of the United States and their government in control of their own border.
00:10:58.240 So I see it only as a question of who gets to make the decision and then secondarily and separate from that, what should be the right decision?
00:11:08.960 So I think I'm 100% adamant that only the citizens of the United States should get to decide who lives in the United States with their government.
00:11:22.620 And to do that, you need strong border security.
00:11:26.440 But on top of that, I would modify it, our current situation, and I would say something like this.
00:11:34.220 I would say instead of us arguing about what's the right level, let's get our economists to tell us how much of what kind of new immigration we need.
00:11:45.840 Do we need more high-trained technical people?
00:11:49.180 Do we need more workers?
00:11:50.480 And have the economists, through some kind of process in which they say, you know, the unemployment rate is X, so maybe we should restrict immigration a little bit.
00:12:01.980 If you don't have a good border security, you don't have that option.
00:12:05.760 So rather than personalize it and say we like immigrants or we don't like immigrants, which is the dumb way to do it, everybody likes immigrants.
00:12:14.100 Because to even argue that somebody doesn't like immigrants is crazy, because as is often noted, we're a country of immigrants.
00:12:25.300 Everybody likes immigrants, one way or another, you know, however they define it.
00:12:30.860 So I would depersonalize the question of who gets in and make that more of an economic health situation,
00:12:38.800 because I would argue that all of North America and all of South America can only stay reasonably healthy if the United States is reasonably healthy.
00:12:51.320 So keeping the United States stable has an entire global benefit.
00:12:56.320 And a big part of that is the United States being able to control its economy.
00:13:00.840 And we can't control our economy if we can't control the border.
00:13:04.280 So I would separate the questions of who gets in, let the economists decide that, not the politicians.
00:13:12.360 Politicians are the wrong ones to decide who gets in and who gets out, because that's just going to look racist.
00:13:18.400 Right?
00:13:19.200 You know, I don't have to tell you that, right?
00:13:21.320 If the politicians decide who gets in and who gets out, it just looks racist.
00:13:27.740 Now, I don't think it is.
00:13:29.980 In my opinion, that's not the motivation.
00:13:32.180 But, obviously, it's some racist motivation.
00:13:37.540 But in general, it's not the motivation.
00:13:39.900 And I think we should do a better job of saying, look, let's just turn it over to the economists.
00:13:45.140 If our unemployment level is this high, adjust your immigration appropriately.
00:13:52.800 And then we could tweak it as we go, because we're not geniuses to know how the future turns out.
00:13:57.760 For those of you who subscribe on Locals, the platform in which I've moved some of my other more provocative and or self-help type content,
00:14:12.860 I just put up a post on there that's for subscribers only on how to make conversation with a stranger,
00:14:20.380 but also I had to end a conversation with a stranger.
00:14:24.000 You ever get trapped in a conversation?
00:14:26.480 Well, some tips on Locals.
00:14:28.840 You can see the link to it in my Twitter profile.
00:14:32.460 I saw an article on Fox News titled, Ten Signs a Relationship Will Fail, According to a New Study.
00:14:44.940 And I looked into it, and I was like, oh, this could be good.
00:14:48.320 Wouldn't you like to know the signs of a relationship failing?
00:14:51.400 Because then you'd know it's coming.
00:14:52.600 And I'm paraphrasing, but here are some of the signs that your relationship might fail.
00:15:00.280 One is you're an asshole to your spouse.
00:15:03.600 One is you don't appreciate your spouse.
00:15:05.520 You treat them poorly.
00:15:07.160 You don't have sex.
00:15:09.420 Well, those are just a few of the things.
00:15:11.060 So I'm glad I read that article, because until I found out those 10 signs of a relationship failing,
00:15:18.700 I didn't know that if you mistreat your partner, it might be a bad sign.
00:15:25.140 But now I know, so I hope I've informed you.
00:15:28.440 Don't be a jerk and show some appreciation, and maybe you can have a real relationship.
00:15:39.200 Dan Bongino, who I would say is well plugged into lots of stuff, has lots of sources,
00:15:46.140 both on the right, obviously, but on the left, he tweeted this.
00:15:51.420 Now, Bongino is one of those guys where if a random person said to you,
00:15:58.760 I've been hearing X or Y say something, wouldn't you say to yourself, did you?
00:16:05.000 Did somebody really say that?
00:16:07.020 Your anonymous friend said that?
00:16:09.600 But I think Bongino is such a notorious straight shooter that when he says he's hearing something
00:16:15.900 from people, that it's real people, that it actually happened.
00:16:20.100 So he says in a tweet today, not a joke and not hyperbole.
00:16:25.500 I'm hearing from people close to the situation that Biden's cognitive decline is rapidly worsening
00:16:31.640 and is becoming increasingly difficult to mask.
00:16:35.680 Well, I think we knew that.
00:16:36.680 The Democrats are going to have to make a decision soon.
00:16:40.500 Now, the interesting part about this is we've all been curious what the Democrats themselves
00:16:45.660 are thinking, because they're putting up a pretty good front of pretending they don't see it,
00:16:52.740 but you know they do see it.
00:16:54.800 So haven't you had a great curiosity about how they talk about it privately?
00:16:58.380 And, you know, Dan Bongino is reporting that they're talking about it privately exactly the way you'd expect them to.
00:17:09.000 All right.
00:17:11.960 As David Bartosko said on Twitter today, yesterday, I think, he said,
00:17:19.300 can anyone honestly doubt journalism has lost its way?
00:17:22.700 He refers to a new poll that showed that the trust in various segments of society has really shifted lately.
00:17:34.180 So the trust in health care has just gone through the roof.
00:17:37.540 So what the United States citizens think of our health care providers is like almost maybe even beyond military at this point.
00:17:50.340 So if you said what's our most trusted institution, I think you'd say the military probably.
00:17:55.600 But health care workers are just looking really good because, I mean, they're front line in the war.
00:18:00.980 Why wouldn't they?
00:18:03.220 So, but at the very bottom of the list of who we trust, the media has gone into deep negative territory to the point where,
00:18:13.980 I don't even know if you can call it news anymore, can you?
00:18:18.960 Is it really even news?
00:18:21.560 It doesn't feel like they're trying to make news anymore.
00:18:25.800 So I tweeted this today, and this will be your persuasion lesson for the day.
00:18:34.800 So I'll tell you what I tweeted, and then I'll tell you what the technique is that's in it.
00:18:40.600 I tweeted, imagine how historians will judge Democrats for deciding that hashtag hollow Joe, that's my new name for him, was their best candidate.
00:18:51.300 As crazy as it seems now, it will continue bloating and absurdity until it is one of the great American WTF, you know, what the F stories of all time.
00:19:03.680 So here's the technique, and there's some science behind this.
00:19:07.960 And I'll refer to one study that I heard of long ago.
00:19:10.880 If you ask people to save for their retirement, they'll, you know, do okay, but they won't do as well as they should.
00:19:20.740 But if you take a person's current photograph, and you digitally age it, so it's what you might look like when you're in your, say, 70 years old,
00:19:30.240 and then you show it to them and say, okay, this is you at age 70, and then you ask them to start saving for their retirement,
00:19:38.580 they will save more, because they saw a picture of themselves in the future.
00:19:44.400 So it is a general persuasion technique that if you can move somebody from the present,
00:19:50.120 what they're looking at and thinking of right now, to an imaginary future,
00:19:55.180 then you can prime them to head toward that future.
00:20:00.760 And what I'm using is a trick where I'm taking people out of the present,
00:20:07.020 where we're fighting the coronavirus, and we've got our own problems, and we're on lockdown,
00:20:12.000 and there's an election coming, and there's a thousand news stories a day,
00:20:15.680 and, you know, there's Joe Biden, and he's running against Trump,
00:20:20.500 and some people are saying he's got some cognitive abilities,
00:20:23.260 but there's so many other things, what about health care, what about...
00:20:26.800 So at the moment, because the Joe Biden thing has been a slow decay of his abilities,
00:20:35.360 you can kind of get used to anything if it's changing slowly.
00:20:39.740 So here we are sitting here in August 2020, and Joe Biden is clearly, he's just gone.
00:20:48.800 You know, his brain has left the building in terms of, you know, being anywhere near capable of running the country.
00:20:56.160 I mean, it's just absurd at this point.
00:20:59.720 Now, if he had started this way, if the way he is in August 2020 was exactly the way he was one year ago,
00:21:07.980 we wouldn't be here.
00:21:09.780 You know we wouldn't.
00:21:10.740 If he had already been a year ago where he is right now, we wouldn't be talking about Joe Biden.
00:21:19.060 He would have been, you know, nothing in the primaries, and we'd be talking about somebody else.
00:21:24.160 But it sort of snuck up on us.
00:21:26.380 You know, it's like, yeah, there's 1% today.
00:21:29.580 You hardly notice.
00:21:31.200 Tomorrow, maybe he's 1% worse again, but you hardly notice.
00:21:35.400 But now fast forward that to 20 years from now, and the historians are writing about it.
00:21:42.620 What the hell are they going to say about this?
00:21:45.000 Because if you get some distance from it, and this is another persuasion trick,
00:21:49.540 you can actually ask people, for example, to imagine rising above their situation as if they're leaving their body.
00:21:56.940 And they're getting higher and higher, and they're looking down at the earth until the earth is just a little shrinking ball as they back up.
00:22:05.980 And what it does is it changes your perspective from your small little problems to some kind of a bigger picture.
00:22:12.460 If you're looking at Joe Biden, bigger picture, from the future, what the hell is that going to look like?
00:22:20.960 Because in 20 years, people are going to say, unbelievably, in 2020, one of the candidates was mentally incompetent,
00:22:32.520 and the team that ran him knew it.
00:22:36.480 They knew it, and they did it anyway.
00:22:39.460 What's that going to look like in 20 years?
00:22:41.820 Now, I know, to be fair, wouldn't you say that the Democrats would have said something exactly like this about Trump before 2016?
00:22:53.440 They would have said, ah, what are the historians going to say when you elected a reality TV salesman kind of a guy?
00:23:03.820 He barely was taking you seriously.
00:23:06.440 What are they going to say?
00:23:07.400 But, of course, they were wrong, because Trump actually got a whole bunch of stuff done, you know,
00:23:15.040 judges and progress on the border and fighting ISIS and, you know, decoupling with China, which is where it needed to end up.
00:23:24.340 And it looked like he, you know, I think he's going to end up as one of the most solid presidents of all time, I think,
00:23:34.780 especially if he gets a second term.
00:23:36.420 I think he'll be in the top five, you know, but it's going to take 20 years before anybody is objective enough to say anything like that.
00:23:48.320 And, of course, you'd have to have a great next four years, but I think you might.
00:23:53.280 So that's your persuasion trick.
00:23:55.460 Take people into the imaginary future so that they can get some kind of a change in frame and perspective
00:24:01.740 and then ask them to look back at it and what's it look like from the future.
00:24:05.100 But it's a good technique.
00:24:09.720 I noticed this morning that President Trump retweeted something that I tweeted yesterday.
00:24:15.980 And it's always – there's some things that you can't actually get used to, and one of them is that you wake up and the president of the United States just retweeted you.
00:24:28.700 It has happened a number of times now, but you never really get used to it.
00:24:33.080 I don't think I want to.
00:24:34.260 It's always just shocking to see how technology has made this big old planet so small that, you know, I can sit here in my room in California just tapping away with my thumbs on this little device.
00:24:50.600 And next thing you know, the president of the United States and the White House or Air Force One or wherever the heck he is, is looking at it.
00:24:58.840 And then, you know, he's typing.
00:25:00.820 It's just – it's so wild to see how big the world is and how small it is at the same time, at least, you know, in my experience.
00:25:09.440 Anyway, so here's the tweet that he retweeted.
00:25:12.600 It was the one made by some outside group, and it was – it seemed to be some kind of pro-Hispanic American group that was pro-Trump, or maybe they just made the commercial.
00:25:27.240 I'm not sure.
00:25:28.340 But it was the one in which they talk about Biden being essentially a racist for not considering an Hispanic vice president.
00:25:36.500 Now, technically, technically, Biden has never said that he would only pick a black vice president.
00:25:45.980 He has said he would pick a woman, and I think he's talked about, you know, a preference for a person of color or something like that.
00:25:54.560 But he has not – I don't think he's ever specified – I'm going to pick – obviously, he has not specified he would pick a black vice president.
00:26:05.020 But don't you think he kind of cornered himself into it?
00:26:10.800 Because imagine, if you will, in the midst of Black Lives Matter and Biden being, you know, pretty solidly on that team, imagine if he didn't.
00:26:21.520 What the heck would that look like?
00:26:24.120 I mean, seriously, is there any chance that Biden could not pick a black vice president and that that would be okay with his base?
00:26:33.100 I don't think so.
00:26:35.500 I think that although he has not specifically said he's going to do that, I don't know that he has an option.
00:26:41.900 So whoever he picks, you know, the smart money still says Kamala Harris.
00:26:47.100 But I'm pretty sure it's going to be a woman, and I'm pretty sure that woman will be black.
00:26:53.620 I don't know that he has an option at this point.
00:26:56.100 And he sort of limited himself.
00:26:59.380 But anyway, the tweet is devastating, not the campaign ad about him being racist against Hispanics.
00:27:08.940 It's not the ad itself that's going to make that much difference.
00:27:11.660 It was the idea.
00:27:12.560 And here's the key.
00:27:16.740 President Trump would be on shaky ground if he had said, just on his own, hey, Joe Biden, you're being kind of racist for excluding, you know, Hispanics or anybody else from your possible vice president picks.
00:27:32.640 Imagine how that would come if it had just been Trump out of his own mind just saying, hey, I've got an idea.
00:27:42.460 Why don't I say Joe is a racist because of how he's constrained his VP choices?
00:27:47.280 It wouldn't really work because it's coming from the wrong source.
00:27:52.100 And people would just throw it back at him and say, well, you're a racist.
00:27:54.960 Why did you pick Mike Pence?
00:27:55.860 And also, I couldn't do it.
00:27:59.620 It wouldn't be something that I could just say, hey, I think I'll try to make this a thing and I'll talk about it.
00:28:05.280 Same reason.
00:28:06.200 People would just say, well, you know, hey, white guy, how about you stay out of this?
00:28:12.420 But if a group that at least allegedly looks like an Hispanic American group is talking about themselves, that's pretty powerful.
00:28:21.040 Because it speaks to feelings.
00:28:25.800 And these are kind of deep ones.
00:28:27.620 If you feel that you're excluded from any kind of, you know, consideration, that's pretty powerful.
00:28:35.380 And that is the sort of thing that moves the vote.
00:28:38.020 You know, athletes kneeling before a game, that's not going to move a vote.
00:28:43.560 We're just so over that.
00:28:45.000 And it's like I said, it's just theater.
00:28:46.500 But if somebody tells you there's something about you that you can't change, let's say your ethnicity, and we're going to limit your access because of it, I can tell you from experience that it doesn't make you feel good.
00:29:02.600 And it would definitely change your vote.
00:29:05.980 Why is it that I was so anti-Hillary Clinton?
00:29:09.580 Was it because I was so pro-Trump?
00:29:11.960 No, it was because Hillary Clinton said specifically that women were better than men at leadership.
00:29:20.600 She said it directly.
00:29:22.280 She also, you know, the deplorables thing.
00:29:24.540 So the way I felt about her was intense dislike, which I don't have for Biden.
00:29:31.260 Not even a little bit.
00:29:33.100 I have only concern for Biden.
00:29:35.420 Honestly, I have just concern for him.
00:29:37.280 So, yeah, when you insult a group by something they can't change, don't expect them to get over that.
00:29:47.140 I'm fascinated by the protest strategies, both as how the protesters themselves are organizing and adjusting, and they're bringing their leaf blowers, and, you know, they've got a whole bunch of umbrella-coordinated things.
00:30:04.300 And even though it's all evil and unproductive, I'm still kind of impressed by anybody who's working on a system that works better.
00:30:13.180 By analogy, whenever I hear a story about a serial killer who built an elaborate underground bunker and, you know, operated for years before getting caught, I always have two thoughts.
00:30:27.640 Number one, oh, my God, that's horrible for the victims.
00:30:30.820 And, you know, you think about the victims and their family.
00:30:32.780 But then the second thought I have, very quickly, is, wow, that guy's really industrious.
00:30:40.640 That guy knows how to do his serial killing.
00:30:44.440 Let me see a picture of that bunker.
00:30:46.280 It seems pretty well designed.
00:30:48.200 And I'm not proud of this.
00:30:49.780 It's just that I can't, you know, not look at technique.
00:30:52.700 So I look at it when the protesters were being, let's say, effective in terms of the evil they were trying to perpetuate.
00:31:00.620 But I also am impressed when the law enforcement adjusts their tactics.
00:31:05.980 And what I saw today was really interesting, which is the video of in Austin.
00:31:12.900 There were some protesters.
00:31:14.100 I don't think it got violent in Austin.
00:31:16.340 But the protesters needed to be moved or disbanded.
00:31:20.540 And the police used horses.
00:31:23.680 So they used mounted police officers on horses.
00:31:29.140 Now, your first thought might be, well, Antifa will just, you know, spook the horses or, you know, slap the horses.
00:31:37.940 And then you've got what kind of trouble does that cause?
00:31:40.820 And why is a horse going to work when a person doesn't work?
00:31:44.500 And I realized, Antifa probably really likes animals.
00:31:51.340 Think about it.
00:31:52.500 Don't you think that a whole lot of Antifa and a lot of the protesters in general, don't you think there are a lot of animal rights people in that group, just as a normal, you know, overlap with their politics?
00:32:05.600 And I've got a feeling that the things the protesters would be willing to do to, let's say, federal agents, which might be a lot, what they would be willing to do with, you know, uniformed police officers might be pretty brutal.
00:32:21.360 And not might be, it is.
00:32:23.040 We've witnessed all the damage.
00:32:26.040 But when they hurt a horse, and when I watched, I watched how easily the horses, you know, because they came as a group, when I watched how easily they moved the protesters back, I had to ask myself, is this one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen in my life?
00:32:44.820 Is this so smart that the protesters, if they turned on the horses, you know, if any one of them tried to hurt a horse, what would the other protesters do to that protester?
00:32:58.100 I feel like they'd stop them in a way that they wouldn't necessarily stop somebody from trying to hurt a police officer.
00:33:05.500 But I think they would try to stop somebody from hurting a horse.
00:33:09.320 I don't know.
00:33:11.000 And I also don't know how well trained those horses are.
00:33:14.180 I assume they have a lot of training.
00:33:15.520 But I'll just, I can't say that it's the best idea and that it could be expanded and used other places.
00:33:23.780 That's to be determined.
00:33:25.180 And, but I love, I love the thought of it.
00:33:28.620 And I love the changing, shifting techniques.
00:33:32.060 Way better than pepper spray, if it works.
00:33:35.100 I tweeted yesterday that there's this enormous, enormous economic opportunity for the United States that is completely unexploited.
00:33:47.180 And I've been pushing on this for a while, but I like the way I finally came up with the way to frame it.
00:33:52.020 And it goes like this.
00:33:53.380 The cost to build a home and then to live in it, because there are ongoing costs of living in a home.
00:34:00.260 Those costs are crazy in a world in which half of the country can't afford it.
00:34:07.000 So I'm thinking half of the country, it's probably a bigger number.
00:34:10.260 Either it has trouble affording a single family home, or they can't.
00:34:18.100 It's one of the biggest problems in the country, which could also be one of the biggest economic opportunities.
00:34:24.680 So the economic opportunity would be to figure out how to make homes that are affordable and way better.
00:34:30.540 And the way better part is at the top, right?
00:34:35.040 The affordable is necessary, but I wouldn't stop with, let's make tiny homes, or let's make the same homes we're making, but use cheaper materials.
00:34:44.800 Nothing like that.
00:34:45.940 I'm talking about a change that's as fundamental as moving from a landline phone to a smartphone, just skipping the flip phone phase entirely.
00:34:57.620 So our entire building industry, you know, the residential building, sort of evolved.
00:35:04.860 And I think it was mostly contractors and engineers and craftsmen and that sort of people.
00:35:10.700 And it sort of evolved to be versions of what it's always been with just small improvements.
00:35:16.800 And, of course, that just gets more complicated, more building codes, more materials, more design, and it's just this crazy expensive stuff.
00:35:29.080 But imagine, if you will, some company like Amazon or Google or Apple, whoever is really good at design, spending a lot of time just designing, designing, testing, testing, testing, the way they would test a consumer product.
00:35:43.060 You don't really do that with a house.
00:35:44.420 Nobody builds a house, puts a family in it, checks in with them every week to see what worked and what didn't work, how happy they are, how they sleep, how productive they are, all the things that make you a happy person.
00:35:57.660 There's nobody doing that.
00:35:59.080 But with a consumer item like a phone or, you know, a lot of other items, there's plenty of testing.
00:36:06.100 But I don't think in the housing industry, I think it's zero, and it shows.
00:36:10.360 So we have this big, poorly made, poorly made in terms of how well it could be done in 2020 compared to how well it is being done.
00:36:21.140 So we do an excellent job of building an old technology, the old kind of house.
00:36:28.660 What would happen if you said, and this was the nature of the tweet, the tweet,
00:36:33.760 suppose the government said, we're going to make it a lot easier to rapidly prototype and rapidly test.
00:36:42.160 And so if somebody wants to propose an area that they want to make, and I called it an experimental home zone, let's call it that,
00:36:50.780 that in that zone, that all of the building codes and regulations would be temporarily suspended.
00:36:57.360 And any company that applied could then build a home, but they would still have to get it signed off by real engineers.
00:37:05.280 So you don't want anybody, you know, some entrepreneur building a house on hay bales and the family moves in and it smothers them.
00:37:13.640 So you need real engineers to say, yeah, as far as we can tell, this looks pretty safe.
00:37:18.080 If you keep it to single family dwellings, and especially if it's one story, there's not really much risk of anybody moving in and getting hurt.
00:37:29.220 And if it's entrepreneurs who want to try new building techniques, et cetera, there's a little more risk,
00:37:36.480 but that's how anything moves forward with risk.
00:37:40.200 So the idea, so here's the idea.
00:37:44.880 Somebody says, have you talked about Joe Rogan moving to Texas?
00:37:48.080 That's an old story.
00:37:49.580 So here's the idea.
00:37:50.600 I'm not pitching a specific kind of house.
00:37:54.020 I'm not pitching that we should design it or build it with certain materials to any certain kind of standards.
00:38:00.520 So I'm not talking about what the house looks like when it's done, although that's fun and needs to be done.
00:38:06.640 I'm talking about a system.
00:38:08.720 At the moment, we don't have a system to rapidly iterate and test house designs.
00:38:14.600 And one of the reasons we don't have that is that local building codes and local politicians would make that almost impossible.
00:38:23.880 No, they have made it impossible.
00:38:26.300 So imagine, if you will, there are a bunch of experimental dwelling zones.
00:38:32.040 An entrepreneur can say, all right, I'll take this acre.
00:38:36.300 I'll make sure engineers sign off on it, but I'm going to build my little prototype.
00:38:40.820 A few other people build some prototypes.
00:38:42.660 You put some people in it.
00:38:43.960 You say, live here for six months.
00:38:45.640 We're going to, you know, we won't charge you rent, but you have to tell us your experience.
00:38:50.600 You know, if you went to get a broom, were you angry because you had to walk downstairs?
00:38:54.960 Because that's where the broom closet was.
00:38:57.540 When you tried to do your homework, could you find a place that was quiet, that the rest of the family wouldn't bother you?
00:39:04.560 And you could also sit upright and have some space.
00:39:07.680 Really basic stuff.
00:39:09.120 You break down what are the tasks and how does the house handle those tasks?
00:39:13.980 Then what is your happiness?
00:39:16.980 Your health?
00:39:18.140 Have you slept enough?
00:39:19.680 Have you gained weight, lost weight?
00:39:21.120 I mean, really basic health-related things because your house programs you.
00:39:27.640 And by the way, one of the reasons that I'm obsessed by house design and design in general
00:39:35.180 is that persuasion and design are really deeply overlapping fields.
00:39:41.100 So my interest in persuasion overlaps with my interest in architecture and building
00:39:46.900 because persuasion is largely ignored in that field and it's the single biggest thing they
00:39:53.300 should take care of other than safety and cost maybe, which is that you want to build it
00:39:59.660 with the right light.
00:40:02.060 How important is light?
00:40:04.400 You know, if you've got a little vitamin D coming in and you've got some brightness,
00:40:09.180 what does that do to your mood?
00:40:10.460 I mean, it's completely transformational and probably doesn't add a lot to your house.
00:40:18.520 You just have to orient it right and make sure that the sun is part of your solution.
00:40:23.020 What about the feng shui, the size of the rooms, the shape of the rooms, the furniture arrangement?
00:40:30.260 You know, we are on a scale of one to 10, we're at about a two in design.
00:40:35.960 We could get that to a 10.
00:40:37.600 You know, if you say that an Apple smartphone, for example, is a 10 in design, we're at about
00:40:44.260 a two with houses and the opportunity is enormous, especially if you're building where there have
00:40:50.540 not been houses before, so you can actually just, you know, get going.
00:40:54.840 So I'd like to see some kind of government action to make it possible for the entrepreneurs
00:41:01.640 and the home building business to iterate.
00:41:04.120 So that, the golden ratio, there's somebody there who knows their design.
00:41:11.840 The golden ratio is in your kitchen.
00:41:15.620 If you're designing a kitchen, no matter how you design it, you need to maintain the golden
00:41:21.320 ratio.
00:41:22.520 And the golden ratio is, if you can imagine it as a triangle in which, if I have this right,
00:41:27.620 it's your refrigerator, your sink, and I think your oven, your oven and cooktop.
00:41:34.720 And I think those three things have to be in a well-designed space, you know, in terms
00:41:42.120 of distance from each other.
00:41:44.360 And if you get the golden ratio right, then a lot of the other kitchen is more aesthetic.
00:41:48.720 So those are the types of things that are just insanely, insanely important.
00:41:55.680 In my opinion, you could get the cost of a single family house down to $20,000, and it
00:42:05.020 would be better than a house that would cost, let's say, $300,000 in a standard economy.
00:42:14.400 So that, that's the size of the opportunity, I think, that a $20,000 house designed correctly
00:42:22.460 would be way better, just way better than a standard $300,000 house.
00:42:30.000 In the same way, well, forget the analogy.
00:42:36.200 Likewise, I think that the, the ongoing expense of living could be reduced from, I don't know,
00:42:43.440 what's an average, what does an average family spend every month for electricity and gas
00:42:49.800 and, you know, that stuff.
00:42:52.080 I don't know.
00:42:53.100 Insurance.
00:42:54.500 Yeah.
00:42:54.740 Imagine if your insurance, your house insurance, your electricity, your gas, your Wi-Fi, and
00:43:00.560 all that stuff was $100 a month.
00:43:02.840 Could you get a single family house that had $100 a month of ongoing expense from everything
00:43:12.160 from maintenance, Wi-Fi, heating and cooling, insurance?
00:43:17.980 I think you actually could.
00:43:19.680 I actually think you could.
00:43:20.700 So I think that the future demands that the, the people who want to be go-getters and, you
00:43:28.900 know, get three college degrees and become engineers and, and build products, well, those
00:43:34.280 people can live in their normal, regular world and pay full price for their mansions and cars
00:43:39.460 and stuff.
00:43:40.100 And you want, you want people to be able to do that because that's how economies get built.
00:43:44.160 But I think we have to realize that we're heading into a future in which I'll say half, just
00:43:51.140 to pick a number for argument, half of the population, especially when the robots take
00:43:56.520 over, about half of the population is going to have to figure out how to, how to have a
00:44:01.920 quality life with a relatively low-paying job.
00:44:06.580 Now that low-paying job is still going to be important.
00:44:10.020 It will still have, you know, dignity.
00:44:11.740 It'll still have meaning.
00:44:12.480 It just won't be your half a million dollar a year job.
00:44:18.160 And we want everybody who has, you know, the willingness to work, the willingness to be,
00:44:24.660 to contribute in any way to the, to the country, to have a good life.
00:44:29.720 So somebody says defund obesity.
00:44:33.780 I'm also going to put on locals, my subscription-based service.
00:44:38.960 I'm also going to do a mini lesson on how to wean yourself off of sugar.
00:44:47.580 I'm working on that right now.
00:44:49.220 So you got that going.
00:44:51.900 I would, somebody's mentioning 3D printed houses.
00:44:54.780 3D printed houses are one of many different possibilities.
00:44:58.820 I'm personally a little negative on 3D printed houses because I don't know how you change them.
00:45:06.740 They're kind of, once they're done, they're done.
00:45:09.360 I would be much more interested in some kind of building system that even one person could build their own house with, you know, Lego-like blocks.
00:45:22.620 There may be a hundred other models.
00:45:24.960 But I think the 3D printed one, I don't, I just don't know, unless there's also an industry for modifying them after they're done.
00:45:36.780 So it could be that maybe you just have to knock down the 3D printed wall, bring in your 3D printer, and, you know, it builds a new room.
00:45:45.760 I don't know if we're there yet.
00:45:47.600 Maybe if we could get there.
00:45:49.440 I was also wondering, here's a question for you.
00:45:51.840 The 3D printers that make entire houses, you know, it's this giant arm.
00:45:58.100 They put a device in the middle of what the house will be.
00:46:02.060 It has this giant arm that swings around in a circle.
00:46:05.640 And it prints the walls.
00:46:09.900 Now, when I say print, I mean it basically is dropping a gloop of some kind of, you know, concrete-like substance
00:46:18.840 that hardens into the wall as it builds up over time.
00:46:23.620 And I ask myself, will there ever be a time when the 3D printed home could use as its ink, if you will,
00:46:33.480 instead of a concrete substance, could it use plastic that's recycled?
00:46:38.820 I mean, could you take all the wasted plastic, grind it up into, you know, granules, turn it into some kind of cement-like thing,
00:46:48.920 run it through a 3D printer, you know, the industrial size that builds houses,
00:46:55.320 and just make walls out of our used plastic?
00:46:58.540 Probably not.
00:47:00.060 I'm just sort of wondering.
00:47:01.420 Somebody says they can help me get off of vegetables.
00:47:08.920 You probably could.
00:47:12.120 Somebody says graphene.
00:47:14.440 Is that part of it?
00:47:15.240 Plastic, ceramics?
00:47:17.400 Yeah.
00:47:18.320 Somebody says no plastic.
00:47:20.220 The gas is...
00:47:22.780 Oh, okay.
00:47:23.640 Yeah, the plastic might off gas.
00:47:25.920 So, and I would worry about how long it lasts, et cetera.
00:47:29.860 Somebody in the comments is saying, or rubber.
00:47:32.180 I was also thinking about tires.
00:47:35.860 But I don't know.
00:47:37.260 Somebody says it's not scalable.
00:47:40.100 That I don't know.
00:47:43.140 Oh, let me put...
00:47:44.420 Let me give you a little architectural tip here.
00:47:48.920 So, when I'm riding my bike around my town, I like to look at the architecture of all the homes.
00:47:55.880 And I especially like the smaller homes, the lower-cost homes that look good.
00:48:02.320 Because there are a number of homes where I live where there'll be two homes right next to each other.
00:48:07.440 They look about the same home value.
00:48:10.240 You'd probably pay about the same.
00:48:11.920 But one of them has figured out how to put, let's say, some veneers on the front of their home.
00:48:16.500 So, they've added something that looks like, let's say, a rock accent.
00:48:21.740 Or I'm seeing, in some cases, like a nice redwood stained accent on some part of it.
00:48:27.560 And those little accents could easily be attached to the outside of any structure.
00:48:33.540 So, you could use, let's say, a base structure to make your walls, whether they're 3D printed or something else.
00:48:39.760 But then make it easy to just stick to without a craftsman.
00:48:45.200 I mean, maybe it's just plug and play.
00:48:47.180 And you just take, say, red bricks.
00:48:49.500 Not a full brick, but like just a veneer of a red brick.
00:48:53.760 And you could just attach it to the outside of your house and make a little accent wall or, you know, some kind of, basically an accent.
00:49:02.820 So, in theory, all of the basic rooms of some new future home could be standardized as whatever's the best design for a human living.
00:49:13.620 But they would all look different from the outdoors and maybe the indoors, too.
00:49:18.380 Because the homeowners would have the option of just tricking them out with a certain set of things that snap to the front.
00:49:26.660 So, yours would look different from mine.
00:49:28.900 Yours might look way better.
00:49:30.460 And it would just be real easy because you're just changing the outside and you're just snapping it on.
00:49:36.700 So, those are the sorts of, somebody says they already have brick rock panels.
00:49:41.300 That is correct.
00:49:42.160 If you've ever tried to install any of those brick rock panels, you know it takes a craftsman.
00:49:50.660 I mean, you have to know how to do it.
00:49:52.220 You look at the YouTube for that and it's like you've got to prep the wall and you've got to, you know, there's a whole bunch of stuff you've got to do to stick those to the wall.
00:50:00.460 But what if the wall just had two holes in it that were made for that and you just walk up to it and go, and just stick the brick on?
00:50:10.500 You know, maybe you have to affix it in some way that can be unaffixed.
00:50:15.480 But what if you could change it?
00:50:16.920 What if in the fall you could walk outside, remove all your brick accents from your, let's say, your accent wall, and put it on rocks?
00:50:25.760 I think I want rocks now.
00:50:27.520 Why not?
00:50:30.460 Somebody says the brick rock panels are now much easier.
00:50:34.640 Yeah.
00:50:34.960 But they're not as easy as snap on, snap off.
00:50:38.620 But I think they could be.
00:50:39.700 All right.
00:50:41.540 That is, somebody says, not waterproof.
00:50:44.300 It could be waterproof if the hole that you're sticking it into does not penetrate to the inside.
00:50:50.680 So it could be like a bowling ball hole where it doesn't go all the way through the bowling ball.
00:50:56.380 You just stick it in the hole.
00:50:58.480 Now, somebody's saying Frank Lloyd Wright.
00:51:02.200 Yeah, I just saw on YouTube the other day that Frank Lloyd Wright also tried to build some standardized designs.
00:51:11.460 And I think he built some standardized designs that were meant for very low-cost homes.
00:51:19.180 So there are definitely a lot of people who have looked into it.
00:51:21.800 All right.
00:51:23.820 I know that the building stuff is not of interest to all of you.
00:51:28.940 Some of you like the politics better, but I would argue that the building industry is such a big part or could be even bigger part of our economy that it's sort of all politics and that it would require politics to clear out the codes and the building codes, et cetera, so that something like this could be built.
00:51:52.120 And that is my idea for the day.
00:51:56.120 Anybody else have anything to say?
00:51:58.100 Yeah, tankless water heaters.
00:52:00.400 Yeah, at one point I did a project called the Dilbert Ultimate House.
00:52:04.180 This was years ago before I built my own house.
00:52:06.980 And I solicited the public to tell me ideas for inclusion in the house.
00:52:12.660 And then I built a number of those ideas into my house.
00:52:15.900 For example, when I built my house, because I got to design it myself,
00:52:20.580 I built a special closet for my cat.
00:52:26.640 And it's off the laundry room.
00:52:28.960 So if you know you're going to have pets, why not build a house that's optimized for a pet?
00:52:34.520 So I've got an automatic dog door that goes down to a fenced area with artificial turf so my dog can let herself out anytime she wants, do her business.
00:52:45.540 It's on artificial turf in a place that I don't have to look at too much.
00:52:49.120 And I go clean it up at my leisure.
00:52:52.920 And if my cat wants to use her cat box, she has her own special closet.
00:52:59.940 The cat box itself is on a raised platform so that when I change the litter, I'm standing.
00:53:05.740 I don't have to bend over to do it.
00:53:07.720 And in there I've got all my cat supplies and stuff.
00:53:10.820 And it's also off of the laundry room.
00:53:13.780 So I've got venting and everything else.
00:53:17.240 So that's a very, very small example.
00:53:21.380 But if you imagine how much people's lives are enhanced by pets, why wouldn't you build your house to accommodate your pet?
00:53:29.500 It's such a big part of your experience.
00:53:32.100 It's just obvious.
00:53:33.080 I toured a house once that had a dog washing station, some upscale house.
00:53:38.900 And off of one of the rooms near the, I think it was outside the garage, was like a sort of a special shower area just to wash your dog.
00:53:49.720 And I thought, well, I don't know if I need that.
00:53:52.800 But imagine if you did have some kind of a washing area in your garage.
00:53:57.300 It wouldn't have to be a big garage, but just a little outdoor sink or washing area.
00:54:01.920 How amazingly useful would that be?
00:54:06.440 All right.
00:54:07.020 Maybe I'll do a special periscope on just a home stuff.
00:54:13.280 I'm actually thinking of going around my home with my video camera and just photographing things that worked and things that didn't work to get people thinking about this stuff.
00:54:23.720 All right.
00:54:26.000 Does Snickers have her own smoking lounge?
00:54:29.720 Not yet.
00:54:31.440 Somebody says, crazy white folks.
00:54:33.700 You're not wrong.
00:54:34.660 Yeah, we're not going to talk about hydroxychloroquine today.
00:54:43.960 When is Christina going to take you up for a flight?
00:54:47.080 So, my wife, Christina, is taking acrobatic flying lessons.
00:54:54.700 So, last several days and she'll be up there today.
00:54:59.920 She'll be up there and she'll be in the air in about two hours.
00:55:03.320 She's literally doing, you know, barrel rolls and figure eights over the house here.
00:55:07.320 So, she's having a great time learning to fly the small planes for now.
00:55:15.380 Let's talk about why you won't have Kent Heckin-Lively on or why I wouldn't have Shiv on.
00:55:21.020 Yes, let me talk about that.
00:55:22.680 So, I've developed a rule and it goes like this.
00:55:26.780 I don't want to have ever, ever, anybody on my Periscopes who is an expert without the counter expert.
00:55:37.760 Unless, and there's only one exception, the exception is I think I know enough that I can ask the right questions.
00:55:44.760 What you don't want and what would serve you really, really poorly and would be a great disservice is for me to put Kent Heckin-Lively on just by himself.
00:55:56.520 Now, that has nothing to do with what he says, right?
00:55:59.900 It has nothing to do with whether he's right.
00:56:02.480 It has nothing to do with whether he's wrong.
00:56:04.780 It has only to do with the fact that if you wanted to mislead people, that's the way you'd do it.
00:56:10.240 You would bring on one expert, let them talk, and that's it.
00:56:16.100 There's nothing that could be less healthy for understanding and educating and seeing the big picture than me bringing on one expert whose expertise I can't penetrate enough to ask the right questions.
00:56:32.400 So, Dr. Shiva is one of those.
00:56:34.660 Is he right?
00:56:36.200 Is he wrong?
00:56:37.260 How would I know?
00:56:37.900 I don't have any expertise that would guide me in that area.
00:56:41.840 You do not want me or anybody else to have one expert on unless you could also ask the right questions, and I can't.
00:56:50.860 So, the Heckin-Lively stuff, suppose he came on, suppose he said a bunch of things that sounded true to you and true to me.
00:56:59.080 Is that good?
00:57:00.640 No.
00:57:01.120 That would be very, very bad, because you wouldn't know if there's another argument, you know, a counterpoint.
00:57:08.420 Without that, I'm not going to do that, all right?
00:57:12.040 And I'm going to try to be really, really strict about that, because it's one of the biggest problems in the world, and I don't want to be perpetuating it.
00:57:21.680 Every time you turn on the television, you're seeing that one expert giving you a bunch of BS.
00:57:28.400 If it's on CNN, they're spinning it one way.
00:57:31.200 If it's on Fox, they're spinning it the other way.
00:57:33.580 But you don't see both.
00:57:35.680 You don't see the two of them with enough time to, you know, have them work it out.
00:57:40.040 So, I'm just not going to be – oh, my God.
00:57:45.120 Oh.
00:57:46.740 Somebody just said in the comments, have Dr. Simone Gold on.
00:57:51.900 Listen to me, please.
00:57:55.620 Does this not make sense?
00:57:57.800 Am I not clear that I'm not going to have one expert on that I don't know enough to ask the right questions?
00:58:04.720 Now, you could argue that maybe with hydroxychloroquine, I could ask the right questions.
00:58:08.440 But I already know what she said, and I've already, you know, I've tweeted things like that a million times.
00:58:17.260 So, while I believe that she would be a compelling guest, I will not have her on without the counterpoint, period.
00:58:32.920 All right.
00:58:33.380 The last thing I'm going to leave you with is I cannot tell you how happy I am about my recent surgery on my sinuses.
00:58:46.780 Completely life-altering improvement.
00:58:51.180 And I just wake up happy, you know, just feeling good about the world.
00:58:57.520 I've never felt this good, actually.
00:58:58.900 Can I have Greg Guff held on?
00:59:02.680 Well, you know, I do want to have him on.
00:59:04.420 I need to schedule that.
00:59:07.080 I need to have him on to talk about his book, The Plus, which apparently was just screaming up the bestseller charts.
00:59:16.040 I think he had number five or something.
00:59:18.260 Just crazy.
00:59:20.380 President Trump tweeted it.
00:59:22.500 So, I'll try to get Greg on whenever he's available, you know, based on his schedule.
00:59:28.740 By the way, Greg is working on for his book tour, since you can't do the in-person thing that you normally would do.
00:59:35.600 I believe he's actually working on an outdoor drive-in theater event where people will drive up.
00:59:43.900 He'll be up on some stage or presented on screen as well, I guess.
00:59:48.240 And that is a really fun idea.
00:59:51.900 So, maybe we'll get pictures from that.
00:59:55.080 All right.
00:59:55.760 So, that's it for me.
00:59:57.760 And I will talk to you later.
01:00:00.240 Later.