Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1083 Scott Adams： Guest Greg Gutfeld Talks About His New Best Seller The Plus, Then on to the Headlines

00:00:00.000 do do do do do well let's see if this works um that's the first time that's happened i got kicked

00:00:06.480 off i got kicked off but i'm back apparently i'm unstoppable uh it's possible that this

00:00:15.920 will help me connect with greg guffeld and i swear to god this is going to work

00:00:24.560 um well maybe not anyway um we did the simultaneous step right before i got kicked off

00:00:36.800 if we have any technological luck and it looks like we're going to have some difficulty day

00:00:41.840 today um i wanted to talk to greg guffeld but if i don't do it today i'll figure out another

00:00:47.520 another time it works so greg if you can either retry your device or

00:01:00.560 well i think today will be the last time i ever try to use periscope for a guest

00:01:06.240 i think i've made a decision that today will be the last time i ever try to use this technology

00:01:11.840 live to bring out a guest those of you who've watched i think my my accuracy has been something

00:01:17.840 like 50 maybe uh let me just try one more time all right so greg i've got my dm i'm looking at my

00:01:31.280 twitter dm if uh if it looks like it's not going to work just send me a message on twitter i've got

00:01:36.240 that open and i'll see it as soon as you send it but let me talk about some other things while we're

00:01:40.160 doing that and by the way the plus you should see the reviews for this like it's killing it's a it's

00:01:48.000 a number one self-help book on amazon it's a number two self-help book on new york times the reviews are

00:01:55.280 ridiculous you gotta got a trump uh got a trump retweet that's pretty nice and uh and i think he has a uh

00:02:05.040 part of his book tour will be at a drive-in theater we'll ask him about that if we get him anyway um 0.91

00:02:14.400 while we see if that's gonna happen let me talk about another thing have you ever have you ever

00:02:20.000 noticed that there are some words that are used in the political realm that are really more powerful

00:02:27.680 than other words and there's a word that the anti-trumpers are using about trump and his in his

00:02:34.000 performance for the uh coronavirus which is really it's a really good one they use the word botched

00:02:43.120 have you heard that it's it's sort of the one that they keep repeating and i gotta say i think i'm

00:02:48.640 gonna adopt that trick because i never i never thought about it before but if you say somebody didn't do a

00:02:55.280 good job they might say well we did or or we didn't but if you say somebody botched something

00:03:04.640 it seems entirely different doesn't it hey look i think greg's back

00:03:09.520 let's see if this works greg you are live amazing

00:03:14.400 palpitations because the technology was not giving you what you needed yes and plus i was on

00:03:23.520 my fourth uh uh spontaneous sip or uh by i had my i'm on my fourth coffee you've over sipped you've

00:03:31.440 yes yes so i don't know if you heard but i was giving you the giving them the rundown on your amazing

00:03:39.200 book oh thank you and i i'm i'm just blown away at the both the reviews you're getting from this

00:03:45.280 and uh you got a presidential retweet it's screaming up the charts number two on new york times and by

00:03:51.040 the way the number one book that's ahead of you it doesn't belong there i've never heard of it but

00:03:57.600 apparently it's very popular but they keep it there because it was there for months it's but it came out

00:04:02.240 in october 2019 yeah the new york times list has some might have some let's say algorithmic

00:04:10.400 irregularities if you will uh anyway uh are you still there oh we lost him

00:04:20.320 this is the worst technology in the world

00:04:26.560 all right i'll keep an eye on see if he comes back

00:04:28.560 back um i think i think we we deserve at least one more try if your technology

00:04:36.240 can can produce is possible that the gods are working against this day all right uh so i was there

00:04:44.960 it is

00:04:48.240 this is totally going to work this is totally going to work 1.00

00:04:51.840 are like let let me jump right into this sure okay yes yeah i i want to ask you the the dumbest 0.90

00:05:01.600 question that a anybody ever asked because this is this is one i guess sometimes i want to see if

00:05:07.360 you've ever gotten this at the end of the book interview they'll say to the author uh so greg uh

00:05:12.800 where can people buy this book that is the that is the local news staple of every interview um

00:05:21.360 also i had i had a great interview and i'm not going to mention who the person is because she was

00:05:25.600 very nice but did that thing you talk about where they don't read the book but they just kind of open

00:05:30.000 up the book and they just and they just go like uh so and then she reads the chapter heading so yeah

00:05:36.480 the prison of two ideas i found that interesting tell us about it and then you just do it and it's just

00:05:42.640 like and then she did it again and then she's like well this was really a great book and then that was

00:05:47.040 and then it's where can you pick it up and uh it's it's wonderful and you you write in a similar

00:05:54.720 uh fashion you have the same problem i do that that a lot of authors will write a book that has one

00:05:59.360 theme so you can always speak to it but you hit you hit like hundreds and hundreds of points if they

00:06:05.360 pick one out not only does it misrepresent what your book is yeah because people think oh i heard that

00:06:12.160 one story but about that one point and i you know and then they make a decision based on that one

00:06:17.600 point i would say that you have the kind of book that has to be read in full because it's more like

00:06:22.640 an experience of reading the book than it is about you know all right so wait can i tell you a funny

00:06:28.240 thing though about it though please please do yeah yeah okay so i have a hard time explaining what

00:06:33.840 the book is about and i've always been that way with almost every book that i do because i was so close

00:06:38.640 to it so when i when i get interviewed by people they often do it better than i did like what walter

00:06:44.800 kern uh interviewed me and described it as it's a book about impulse control and i never thought of

00:06:51.280 that but the the actual plus thing is is for people who have options and they and they and they forgot

00:06:59.200 what impulse control really is oh frick we lost him again can you believe that unfreaking believable

00:07:10.880 now i don't know what is causing these calls to drop but it is it is crazy i'm not even sure why this

00:07:20.880 is a commercial product at this point or at least this feature of it i like the periscope part but not

00:07:26.000 the uh the guest part let's see if he's back there we go

00:07:34.480 just act act like you weren't even cut off and you're starting right in the middle of the sentence

00:07:39.360 go and that is why they threw me in jail scott and i swore it was all in self-defense and i found

00:07:48.560 my pants an hour later but that wasn't was that a great story scott it was uh not only self-defense

00:07:54.160 but he had it coming and uh that's what happens when you have a relationship with the duck yes

00:08:02.000 all right so i you're you're saying how other people are characterizing your book i i had one

00:08:05.920 for you it's it's how to uh how to deal with your reflex for negativity yes that is really good uh

00:08:15.440 it was basically a lot of reframing well this is the negative thing you're doing

00:08:20.160 you know why don't you reframe it this way etc uh let me let me tell you my uh my favorite

00:08:27.680 part of this uh every once in a while you read like one sentence that just just sort of really

00:08:33.200 speaks to you this was one sentence i'm paraphrasing a little bit but it said that no matter uh

00:08:40.640 before you do something dumb ask yourself how you were feeling yes yeah just say something about that

00:08:47.280 well it's because i realized and it's been in the last couple years especially when i'm listening 0.66

00:08:52.720 to the uh your periscopes that almost everything i do is judged by my current state or mood so like if

00:08:59.440 i'm in a bad mood i don't really know i'm in a bad mood and then i do something and i go why did i do

00:09:04.640 that i was in a bad mood so i might say something negative to a friend or to the spouse or uh on twitter

00:09:12.080 and it's like why am i doing this and then so i so i i wait i wait until the mood passes and then i

00:09:17.440 never and then i lose interest in what i was going to do i i feel like to that point i feel like the

00:09:22.160 people with the highest levels of awareness are the ones who have realized that they have been

00:09:27.600 different people at different times yeah like angry you drunk you tired you hungry you they're all

00:09:34.320 different yous and if you've done you know mushrooms or something that's like a whole different you

00:09:38.000 and then and and yeah that's that's one of the great things you learn as you get older how many

00:09:44.720 yous there really are the hungry you the hungry you is often the worst you because you become like a

00:09:50.960 child especially i do if i don't have anything to eat i am uh i'm just an animal and i'm i'm the

00:09:57.120 worst kind of greg is that is the hungry greg yeah listening to somebody else's long boring story

00:10:03.200 is the worst thing when you are hungry hungry yes it's like two things you don't want to do don't

00:10:07.600 don't buy groceries don't listen to the long stories it's true um i also like this tip you

00:10:15.440 know no matter how you're doing someone is doing worse today yes as funny as that sounds that's a

00:10:21.200 real thing it is i i really use that you say more about that well yeah i mean it's it's um for

00:10:27.760 example so two trees fell uh outside my house uh yesterday or two days ago two days ago two days

00:10:34.240 ago because of the storm so i couldn't leave in order for me to leave my house i had to try i had

00:10:39.120 to go through somebody's backyard two backyards over uh down power lines to get down to a van to do the

00:10:46.080 five because the five couldn't get up the hill the five van couldn't get up the hill i'm doing all the 0.52

00:10:50.560 shows from a van in my driveway so i get down there and i'm going like oh this sucks this i'm screwed but 0.59

00:10:56.000 then i'm looking at my neighbor a giant tree has landed on her um tesla completely destroyed her 1.00

00:11:03.520 tesla and and she's laughing she's actually got a pretty good uh sense of humor and i'm just going

00:11:09.760 i she said to herself i was almost in my car and so i'm going back to this and i'm going like okay

00:11:14.720 that's worse than what i went through and it could have been worse and it could have been worse for her

00:11:18.560 so there's all these different levels of worse right there's there's somebody in africa right now who's

00:11:25.120 saying a tree fell on her tesla i do not feel bad for her yeah exactly yeah i do not feel bad

00:11:31.280 but but she looked at the car she said a hundred dollar deductible you know life goes on so that

00:11:36.480 was i mean it's like i tend to i'm a catastrophic thinker about i mean everything and but i realize

00:11:43.920 it's passing and that's the most important thing that almost all my errors are due to the fact that i

00:11:48.160 can't interpret my moods correctly you know i i would say that's safe for me um now you you have a

00:11:58.160 a uh an event at a drive-in theater coming yes which is which is the coolest sounding thing i'm so

00:12:04.560 jealous of that because if anybody who does book tours knows there's a sameness about them yeah it's

00:12:10.240 just the same freaking thing over and over again but tell us about the drive-in so the drive-in is

00:12:15.760 yeah it's yarmouth drive-in in massachusetts they're going to have because it's social distancing

00:12:20.960 basically the cars are going to keep people separated but they can get out of their cars

00:12:25.200 and i think it's like 450 cars i will be on stage there'll be movie screens and speakers so i'll just

00:12:32.160 be doing a show like i normally do when i'm traveling with tom shaloo tom shaloo usually opens the one

00:12:37.280 thing that concerns me is how do you tell jokes if you can't hear the response but i'm told people

00:12:42.560 will be out of their car so you'll hear the laughter which will be important because i don't know how

00:12:47.040 you talk and then there's this silence but they're apparently it's worked out really well but that's

00:12:51.680 yeah so it's going to be like it's going to be basically a drive-in comedy show yeah i i've had

00:12:57.440 situations where like that where you just have to like live in your own head and imagine laughter it's

00:13:02.000 like imagine somebody was laughing at that yeah i do that a lot so so are you finding that trying to uh

00:13:10.880 to you know promote a book during a pandemic did it help or hurt because there's there's something

00:13:17.200 i mean the book is obviously getting lots of attention and and doing great and i feel like

00:13:21.440 because you're a you're a tv kind of a guy anyway did this actually help you do you think i think so

00:13:27.440 i think it's the same kind of logic that worked with covid in the protests when they did they said oh

00:13:32.000 look the protests didn't spread covid covid and then you hear that it's because all the people were

00:13:37.600 staying home away from the protesters so it's like there's a weird kind of they cancel each other

00:13:42.240 out so everybody's stuck at everybody's stuck at home which means they're bored which means maybe

00:13:46.480 they'll buy the book right but they won't go out into a signing but i think it all can't everybody's

00:13:52.560 in the same boat so nobody's got an edge over everybody else if they're all being kind of punished

00:13:57.760 the same way and i think that like you know i mean our ratings have gone up so that means more people

00:14:03.520 are watching me talk about the book so that helps wow speaking of speaking of ratings you're you're

00:14:09.360 like leading in both of your time slots right on the five and also the greg gotfeld show yeah it's been

00:14:15.360 it's been crazy in fact on saturdays generally that we win the entire demo for the whole night

00:14:21.680 like so we beat people at seven o'clock on cnn uh there are times when we beat stuff on regular network

00:14:27.920 and then um the five oh it's always been a monster i mean it's it's insane how and it it pulls in

00:14:34.080 prime time ratings at 5 p.m it's caused msnbc to completely revamp their lineup i don't know if you

00:14:40.000 noticed that they they pushed uh what's the dude with the goatees they uh that guy from i can't think

00:14:45.520 of his name doesn't matter doesn't matter exactly he's gone and they just they now they expanded the

00:14:52.000 four o'clock to six o'clock just to just to fight the five which is you know i i always like to give a

00:14:57.520 shout out to the producers of the five no i know i know you like sometimes we'll make fun of the

00:15:03.200 staff and stuff just just to have jokes yeah i i gotta say that is the best produced show i mean

00:15:09.840 it just screams somebody's good at that and it has to do with even how they put the personalities

00:15:16.800 together yeah it's it's the chemistry and and to reproduce that night after night it's it's just

00:15:23.040 really amazing work i would say i i just thought of the name chuck todd but no you're right about the

00:15:27.360 producing and the five is hard because it's like it's not like you have one anchor you know you

00:15:32.000 got to deal with five babies because every now i'm actually a baby i don't think nobody else i'm more

00:15:37.440 of a baby than probably most of them because of uh i'm just more neurotic but you have to deal with

00:15:42.800 five different people and and you got to figure out which works and keep it light while having it

00:15:47.440 serious that kind of thing well you've got the other thing that fox does is that you have personalities

00:15:53.520 like when you guys are fighting on the five it it feels like oh my god that's that's what real

00:15:59.040 people would say right they were in that chair if nobody was watching that's what you'd say but but

00:16:04.800 we're all watching and so i've often said that what makes anything good in entertainment is a sense of

00:16:10.560 danger and it's there it is there you know i don't know i mean you i don't know if you watch it when i've

00:16:16.160 got like but i'll be shaking at some point like because because that means that that was completely

00:16:20.880 improvised and it came out without it came out before i was done thinking you know right yeah

00:16:27.760 and uh and i gotta say as much as juan you know gets like beat up by by the other co-hosts and as

00:16:35.200 much as the the audience likes making fun of him he's really perfect for that job like you got it the

00:16:42.160 the chemistry i mean because he's a good soul and and and obviously it's his job to represent a

00:16:48.080 a point of view and uh he does a great job of it in terms of his how he fits with the group it

00:16:54.080 just couldn't be better yeah i can't wait to get back into the table scenario and i and i hope i hope

00:17:02.240 that soon because i i compare it to going from like playing a game of pickup basketball to going to a

00:17:08.080 batting cage where everybody's in their own batting cage and so when you're when you're um when you're

00:17:13.600 asked a question it's like you're taking your big swing and you're not really talking and i it it

00:17:18.080 kind of drives me a little crazy because i feel like we're in these separated little pods and it

00:17:22.960 reduces the conversation so i think that once we get back to normal i think it's going to be great

00:17:27.600 because it really hurts in my pain it hurts the chemistry a little yeah you know i would say like

00:17:32.720 probably uh 40 of what makes your show work the five is people talking over each other yeah exactly

00:17:39.840 then then then you add the satellite delay and it just you're like it it it's getting really hard

00:17:46.880 to watch the live shows where the the host and the interviewer are talking over each other because

00:17:52.000 of the delay right and you know when i do tucker's show the one thing i i promise myself is when tucker

00:17:58.800 says he doesn't have a delay but when tucker says he introduces you don't say oh glad to be here

00:18:06.160 because he's going to talk over you exactly like i was really proud i'd go i'm not going to do that

00:18:11.120 i'm going to be the only only guest he's ever had who's not going to talk over him and i just sit

00:18:15.920 there silently thinking like i'm a champion yeah no it's it's so important because when you do the

00:18:21.040 thing like thanks for having me somebody will stop and go we'll hear that and then come back and go

00:18:27.200 well uh i'm glad you're here and then and then the person might say thanks and then it goes

00:18:31.600 it can go on for it can go on for like a minute and it's just it dry it just makes everything start

00:18:38.640 off on a bad foot and you just want it to end uh all right so i know you've got a lot more to do

00:18:46.080 today um i've got relatives in town so i'm taking today off i'm actually not going to be on the five

00:18:51.680 because uh my sister flew in during the uh tropical storm so i'm going to go uh uh show her around town

00:18:59.040 or what's left of new york actually and um before before you go the last question

00:19:05.760 this is that this will be a science a science question yes see of jack basabic it goes like this

00:19:13.120 if you have more than one goose it's a gaggle of geese right if you have more than one crow it's a

00:19:20.080 murder murder rose right what is it if you have more than one antifa um oh wow that is a uh

00:19:28.480 oh geez uh a nursery no riot no it's a riot that's good that's good it's very good all right thanks

00:19:37.920 greg thank you glad we got it together come and do my show soon all right we'll do love to all right

00:19:44.080 take care bye-bye

00:19:48.320 all right that was fun go out and buy the plus oh i forgot to ask him where books are sold

00:19:54.400 but i think you can figure that out you got your google and all that don't you all right

00:20:02.320 um here's a question for you on twitter you'll find lots of people arguing about whether president

00:20:08.240 trump did a good job or a bad job so far on the coronavirus has he quote botched it as i was saying

00:20:15.120 earlier botched is one of those words that's really good i'm going to start using botched

00:20:20.720 to criticize other things because when you hear it just it almost closes down a debate it's like

00:20:27.360 um well let's talk about what he did or didn't do he botched it okay but maybe we can dig in a little

00:20:33.280 bit see what decisions he made compared to what could have been done he botched it it's like it's it's just

00:20:40.480 a total conversation stopper but one of the questions i have is that when people uh give me examples of

00:20:48.240 other countries who they say did a good job tamping down the the virus early they give these examples

00:20:57.200 uh indonesia uh south korea

00:21:02.480 um and what was the other one uh south korea taiwan and i ask you this are those comparable

00:21:12.160 and is there anything that you notice about the the ones that are doing well is there any commonality

00:21:22.560 of the countries that did a good job early or so it seems and i would say yes oh new zealand is

00:21:29.440 another one all right so so see if you can find the pattern new zealand south korea taiwan

00:21:38.080 and was it indonesia what do they all have in common yeah they're islands or island dish you know uh

00:21:48.720 indonesia is separated by water but and in south korea is effectively an island because it's only

00:21:56.240 connected by the demilitarized zone to the rest of the the continent so if you're a small homogenous

00:22:05.360 population with strong central leadership and you don't have many states and you're not an international

00:22:15.760 destination can we compare that i mean is it fair to say that the united states is comparable to those

00:22:24.400 little small island different cultures may have a completely different um a different impression about

00:22:33.520 let's say conformity let me ask you this i wonder if i could get cancelled for this but i'll put it out

00:22:41.040 there anyway we're talking about culture not ethnicity so that's that i'm hoping that keeps me from getting

00:22:48.560 cancelled culture is the south korean culture of let's say doing what the government asks and other 1.00

00:22:57.200 people expect is that the same as in the united states because in the united states if the if the

00:23:04.960 central government said um i'm going to sign an executive order i'm the president and the executive

00:23:10.800 order says that all citizens must breathe oxygen every day thirty percent of the country would be dead

00:23:19.360 by lunch because they'd say i'm not going to breathe no oxygen just because my government told me

00:23:24.480 is that the same in south korea in south korea do they say if the government tells me to do it i'm

00:23:30.640 going to do the opposite that's sort of unique to the american identity isn't it you know if we're being

00:23:37.440 honest part of what has made america a successful country is that we are some um

00:23:49.120 how can i say it in the kindest possible way we are some uh

00:23:56.960 let's say non-conformists you know there are a whole bunch of ways you could put a bad spit on this

00:24:02.560 but america our our greatest strength is that we're all different and those differences are

00:24:10.240 allowed you know we we allow uh dissension we allow rebellion we we idolize people who go rogue

00:24:20.640 you know so if you have a country that's really big it's an international destination

00:24:25.600 it's got you know bunch of states governors who also have power under our system 0.91

00:24:33.120 you're you know you can't easily just stop all travel uh you know on the ground because you've got

00:24:38.800 people coming across the borders etc i just don't see how these are comparable but uh and then somebody

00:24:47.760 said wait you're saying the islands do well what about great britain to which i say i think great britain

00:24:55.200 is sort of the exception that proves the rule so in other words great britain yeah i'm no

00:25:01.840 international expert but is it not true is it not true that great britain is an international hub

00:25:09.680 but they also started out with a different strategy from the rest of the world so they've got two

00:25:14.560 different strategies they started with herd immunity they turned to let's try to control it

00:25:20.080 so i'm not sure that you could compare that to anything you know i think at the end of this

00:25:27.360 we might be able to say that the herd immunity people let's say sweden were better or worse than

00:25:33.520 the rest of the country but you have to wait till the end don't you because what if we think that great

00:25:39.680 britain did the worst possible job but we don't get a vaccine in time

00:25:45.840 to reach herd immunity as bad as that will be it could be that when you get to the end of the game

00:25:52.960 if you will i don't want to call it a game because people say stop calling it a game i'm going to call

00:25:57.680 it a game just for analogy purposes there's nothing fun about it but when you get to the end is it

00:26:03.280 possible that because great britain accepted more infections intentionally up front that they

00:26:11.360 simply front loaded their pain and those that tried to suppress it and suppress it but we never

00:26:17.920 get a good vaccine possibly could it be that they've uh back loaded some of their pain so would you be

00:26:24.800 just looking at the front loaders versus the back loaders and you really haven't compared their

00:26:30.480 strategies because you got to wait till the end of the game all right if if you're ropa doping versus

00:26:36.800 trying to punch your way to a victory uh you just got to wait till the end you can't tell in the first

00:26:42.320 round um likewise i would say that the people who believe you can compare countries just in general

00:26:49.920 any any two countries i think they're missing a lot because can you sort out you know all of the variables

00:27:01.120 that compare these two countries think about think about the number of uh studies and data that you've

00:27:10.400 seen recently let's just say the last year just pick the last year how many times have you seen a study

00:27:17.600 or an analysis that turned out to be wrong how about every day it's the most common thing in the world

00:27:25.760 so we know that studies in general and predictions and analyses and models we've seen them all be

00:27:33.440 wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong now imagine how uncomplicated a lot of them have been

00:27:40.800 they're complicated they're all complicated but they're relatively uncomplicated compared to comparing 0.91

00:27:47.200 two countries think about it try comparing any two countries and and it's a it's a dumb comparison in

00:27:55.440 the first place because if you're trying to figure out if president trump is a good leader try this

00:28:00.960 experiment here's a here's a mental experiment you know those countries you thought did a good job

00:28:07.520 south korea new zealand let's take their leader make that person the president of the united states

00:28:15.120 during the pandemic now how'd they do same no not the same because leadership might be the least

00:28:25.120 important variable in this whole damn thing because i've got a feeling that all of the leaders

00:28:31.600 follow the experts now the experts might have been a little different in each country and also there 0.92

00:28:37.200 are some countries who had to do whatever they could do just whatever they could do they didn't have the

00:28:43.040 same resources imagine if you will and i'm not going to predict this but just imagine it imagine if you will

00:28:50.800 that the countries who didn't have great resources said to themselves well we better try this hydroxychloroquine

00:28:57.520 thing because we don't have you know a lot of uh icus and hospital capacity it's a hail mary we don't know

00:29:05.280 if it works but it's cheap let's try it so suppose all the all the poorer countries or let's say countries

00:29:12.960 that were worried about their hospital capacity tried a certain medication we don't yet know if it

00:29:19.120 worked you think you do but i think it's pretty unclear at this point and what if that was the

00:29:25.600 thing what if the united states and some other countries were just sort of excluded from using

00:29:32.320 that because the press had poisoned it so uh so anyway my point is there are so many variables in

00:29:39.920 comparing a country that can't be done and the moment that you think it can be done you've you've

00:29:47.200 you've fallen into a trap it just isn't doable now if you'd like to check that

00:29:53.840 only talk to somebody who's done this for a living all right talk to somebody who is actually an expert

00:30:01.600 at analyzing things and just ask this question you expert at analyzing things can you really compare

00:30:08.560 countries now and if you can can you do it halfway through the pandemic when you know that they have

00:30:16.880 different waves and different you know uh different strategies or do you have to wait to the end all right

00:30:25.920 on that point uh joe scarborough of morning joe tweeted this quote from scott gottlieb md who was the uh

00:30:35.840 what was he the past head of the fda in the past administration correct me if i'm wrong he was in

00:30:42.240 he was in that administration prior uh but he said all of the studies that are that were rigorously done

00:30:49.840 have pointed in the same direction talking about hydroxychloroquine so all the studies that have been

00:30:55.760 rigorously done all of them all of the studies that have been rigorously done have pointed in the same

00:31:03.600 direction that it doesn't work hydroxychloroquine i think at this point he says we can definitively

00:31:10.400 say hydroxychloroquine doesn't work i'm not sure what more we need to do to which i tweeted back

00:31:18.400 it is also true by the way what he says is completely true it is 100 true that all of the studies

00:31:25.120 that were rigorously done shows it doesn't work i think you all agree with that right all of the studies

00:31:31.520 it is also true that all of the studies that were rigorously done that show it don't work studied

00:31:40.640 the wrong application of the drug right it aren't both of those true i think i think dr gottlieb is

00:31:48.480 100 true in his statement that all of the rigorous studies show it doesn't work but it is also true

00:31:55.680 i'm adding this part that all of the rigorous studies studied the wrong thing

00:32:02.960 now i'm still at 50 chance that this hydroxychloroquine is is effective and works because i've never seen

00:32:13.520 anything quite like this i got to tell you well i probably don't have to tell you you you've observed

00:32:21.280 this if you've been watching me for a while is it or is it not true that i'm generally

00:32:28.480 confident to let's say overconfident all the way to being a jerk i'm so confident about a lot of stuff

00:32:37.360 i mean it doesn't matter the topic i'm usually pretty confident in my opinion on the hydroxychloroquine

00:32:43.760 i don't have anything like that and it's really weird because i've never seen a situation in which

00:32:50.080 i was so fascinated at how little that little advantage i have either the let it works or it

00:32:58.000 doesn't work i'm right on the fence i can see why the people say it works are going in that direction

00:33:05.280 i can see why the people who say it doesn't work are saying it and i don't know who's going to be the

00:33:10.240 winner when this when this is all done which fascinates me um here's a uh i think cnn is trying

00:33:20.960 to get the president killed um here's a headline that they ran trump signals he'll do anything in

00:33:28.160 his power to win and then you read the article and do you think the article supports this headline

00:33:35.840 no i don't even have to tell you what's in the article but it doesn't support this headline

00:33:41.280 but it's the top left headline on the cnn home page which means it's the one they want you to see

00:33:47.520 you put the top left one is the important one and they're actually saying trump signals he'll do

00:33:54.000 anything in his power to win meaning that you know breaking the law apparently that's what they're

00:33:59.600 suggesting but then you read the article there's nothing there's nothing like that there are just some

00:34:03.600 things that he's suggesting that you know like having an extra debate does does suggesting an earlier and

00:34:13.920 extra debate sound like doing anything in his power to win those sound different to me uh did you all

00:34:23.440 watch the sally yates testimony that was boring and complicated and here's what's uh so diabolical about

00:34:32.400 it there are very few people in the public and i'm certainly not one of them uh who can listen to

00:34:39.520 something like the sally yates um interview and know what she said wrong and know what maybe was a lie

00:34:48.000 and know what is accurate and thankfully we have joel pollack who has all of the all of the qualifications

00:34:55.680 to watch that and tell us where the lies are so you should follow him on twitter because he calls out

00:35:02.080 the um i guess they would be lies or at least inaccuracies in uh what she said compared to

00:35:09.200 what we know to be true now what's dangerous about the all this stuff is that it feels like the biggest

00:35:16.960 thing in the world right that there was a a coup against a legally elected president and that the

00:35:23.520 you know members of uh the fbi etc were in on this coup and and now it's been uncovered and we know

00:35:32.000 that's a coup and half of the country is acting like it didn't happen is this weird and we've come into

00:35:42.160 this world where you could just act like something didn't happen and i feel like at this point the uh you

00:35:49.760 you know they always they always say that trump could choose somebody on fifth avenue and it should

00:35:53.680 still be supported but in a different way uh i think joe biden could actually die on camera

00:36:04.400 and and the people the the democrats would say he's fine and it would turn into this monty python sketch

00:36:12.640 about the dead parrot and it would look exactly like that and we would just be we don't what are we

00:36:18.880 watching because we watched him die on camera he's laying there he's dead

00:36:27.200 and cnn would report no he isn't no he isn't and their viewers would would read cnn and they would say

00:36:35.600 oh he's still alive and they wouldn't see the clip of him dying and they would never read fox news

00:36:43.280 and they would literally vote for a dead guy because they didn't believe he was dead

00:36:48.800 i think we've reached the point where he could actually die on camera and cnn could just say that

00:36:55.040 didn't happen sounds like a right-wing conspiracy to me he took a nap sure he took a nap everybody takes

00:37:01.840 a nap oh you haven't taken a nap no he's permanently dead sounds like a conspiracy it's a crazy world

00:37:15.040 all right um so one of the big issues is censorship uh so not only has twitter removed twitter removed

00:37:26.320 something because they say it was not medically accurate in terms of covet 19 so it was the president's

00:37:35.120 campaign twitter account coincidentally the communications director for twitter

00:37:42.400 he happens to be kamala harris's former press secretary uh now i don't think he makes these decisions

00:37:49.520 he's a communications director not a decision maker of who gets banned or not but uh are are you

00:37:58.960 comfortable with the communications director for twitter being kamala harris's former press secretary

00:38:05.600 that should make you a little bit uncomfortable but yet but yet if i can if i can give both sides of

00:38:13.280 the story there probably aren't that many people who are world-class communications directors so you

00:38:22.160 know you can't you can't say he shouldn't have a job in private industry just because he was good at

00:38:27.040 some other job uh so i i don't uh i would not support you know any restrictions on who could have any job just

00:38:36.720 because of what job they had in the past that would be inconsistent with anything i believe

00:38:40.400 but it's useful to know useful to know the connections and here's what's interesting about

00:38:47.360 it though uh the original tweet uh violated twitter's rules for misinformation and i think

00:38:55.280 what he said was what trump said that got him in trouble was quote the kids are quote almost immune

00:39:01.920 to covet 19 now it would not be true that kids have an immunity to it it would be true

00:39:10.880 that when they get it it doesn't have that big of an impact on them now because trump is not

00:39:17.440 a medical doctor and as soon as he said almost immune i believe he clarified what he meant

00:39:24.720 to mean that it doesn't affect them as much when they get it that's what i heard but maybe i'm wrong

00:39:30.560 on that so here's the question at what point does twitter become your doctor and they get to decide what is

00:39:39.520 accurate medical information in a world in which experts disagree now if experts did not disagree

00:39:48.000 i'd say yeah if they're all on the same side and twitter sees somebody saying something the

00:39:52.240 experts disagree with why not you know you might want to flag it it'd be better just to flag it and

00:39:57.280 say the experts disagree but almost immune is really just a choice of words that one feels to me like

00:40:06.000 something that a clarification banner should have been better in other words here's how i would

00:40:11.520 have handled this if i were twitter if i were twitter i would pin a uh like a an alpha comment

00:40:20.400 so that if you saw the story you'd see very highlighted you couldn't miss it whatsoever

00:40:25.040 the twitter clarification and the clarification would be in this context almost immune refers to the

00:40:33.360 fact that they tend not to have medical complications when they contract it and i would think that would

00:40:39.040 be fair i don't think the president would even argue with that right because if you clarify what the

00:40:45.680 president's saying you're saying what he's saying which also is compatible with with science why would he

00:40:52.960 disagree with that so shutting it down until that tweet is deleted feels like feels a little political

00:41:00.320 when it would be easier to handle it as information that needs to be clarified um and then facebook also

00:41:07.520 took down something uh what did facebook take down facebook took down something for being uh inaccurate

00:41:15.760 to which i say how does anybody know what's accurate anymore we have so left behind the world where anybody

00:41:24.080 knows anything is accurate i mean any data any study any expert consensus there isn't any of it that's reliable

00:41:34.320 anymore we we've so left behind the world where you could just know what's true all right

00:41:41.280 uh did you all see joe biden's uh campaign ad in which he gets into a an old mustang i guess

00:41:49.280 and he drives up and down his own driveway i think i don't know if that's his driveway but

00:41:54.160 it looks like some protected area there um there were various reactions to it i saw mike cernovich say

00:42:01.840 that uh it was an impressive ad i don't know what words he used but but he thought it was a good ad

00:42:07.120 um and i had the opposite response because when i watch joe biden drive a car by himself

00:42:17.760 what thought do you have because the thought that i automatically have is we should take his car keys

00:42:24.640 away but yeah because he only drove like literally in this protected no other car area it looked like

00:42:31.920 somebody's driveway but it was at the very least it was a enclosed area so it's not like he was in

00:42:38.080 traffic and i really have to um well let me ask you this oh i'm sorry it was a corvette i was an old

00:42:48.960 corvette yeah you're right uh it was not a mustang it was an old corvette it was a pretty cool car

00:42:56.240 i like the car um but did any of you have the same feeling i did which is it's a question of taking

00:43:02.880 his keys away because i couldn't not think that the whole time he was in the car i thought take his

00:43:08.480 keys away take his keys away weren't you thinking that so i uh so i don't see that that worked the way

00:43:17.040 they wanted it to but it's hard to know um jake novak is a great source if you're not following jake

00:43:25.760 novak on twitter you should because the explosions that you're seeing in beirut and now there's some

00:43:32.960 more fires in iran and i think in iraq had some big fires recently um there may be a pattern here if

00:43:41.040 you know what i mean and the pattern as jake novak writes uh might be that we know where iran is

00:43:49.440 keeping their secret terrorist weapons it looks like that because what it looks like is that somebody

00:43:58.480 could be who knows could be israel could be somebody else but it looks like somebody knows where iran is

00:44:07.280 keeping their bad stuff and the bad stuff is going up in flames so there there must be something

00:44:14.000 different happening in iran compared to however long ago that we seem to know where their stuff is

00:44:21.920 so there could be an insider who has turned that's speculation um and if that's the case

00:44:29.520 and maybe because iran has already degraded their economy is in bad shape because the sanctions

00:44:34.480 and coronavirus that maybe iran is in such a weakened position right now that if we if we meaning israel

00:44:43.280 united states knows where all the hezbollah stocks of weapons are etc maybe they're just rolling them

00:44:51.520 all up and just saying well by the end of the week they're not going to have any more weapons depots

00:44:56.640 so it looks like that's what's happening but it's hard to know there was a raid at jake paul's house

00:45:02.560 everybody's watching that i don't know what to make of that so there's going to be some crime that we

00:45:09.440 haven't heard of that i think he will be alleged to have committed there's some reports about taxes

00:45:16.560 they wouldn't raid his house for that there's pictures of them taking away uh weapons i don't

00:45:22.880 think they would have raided his house just for that so i think i feel like there's more to this story

00:45:28.480 we'll figure it out later um and let's see if i've covered all of my fascinating points

00:45:38.160 so biden's not going to go to wisconsin to accept the nomination he i don't know where he'll be in

00:45:46.240 his basement uh the president has said maybe he'll do his uh thing from the white house and then of

00:45:53.040 course people will complain because he's at the white house i think he'll probably have to back at

00:45:57.440 back down from using the white house just because you don't you don't use the white house for

00:46:02.480 campaigning um but i would love to see that also use the drive-in theater concept meaning that

00:46:10.720 people all over the country this is not my idea i've talked about this before could just go to a

00:46:16.000 drive-in and um you know watch the show from the drive-in at least they're with other with other

00:46:22.080 people who want to watch it at the same time um let's talk about these cheaper faster tests

00:46:28.720 uh apparently there are a number of companies developing cheap tests that are you know just

00:46:34.400 a few bucks and will give you a result in minutes as opposed to waiting days you could do it yourself

00:46:40.480 you don't even have to ask anybody else you just have your own little test kit like a home pregnancy

00:46:45.680 kit nobody knows if you're pregnant if you do a home pregnancy kit right you're the only one who 0.98

00:46:51.440 knows likewise these tests you'd be the only one who knows unless you want somebody to tell you now

00:46:57.360 the exception would be if you're being tested by your court your company or something then they would

00:47:02.160 know but of course they need to know and so the uh the question is this what needs to be changed

00:47:10.960 um so that these can work and it looks like there are two changes that i understand these are these

00:47:18.640 are from david boxenhorn who's uh who pointed me to a video by michael mina who's an expert in this

00:47:26.720 field and it looks like that the only thing stopping these cheap tests which by the way the difference

00:47:33.120 between the cheap ones and the expensive ones is that the expensive ones uh are really good at detecting

00:47:40.800 a lot of stuff that's too late the cheap ones are not as sensitive so they might miss somebody who

00:47:47.920 just got the virus and they don't have much of a viral load but because they're fast and cheap and you can

00:47:54.000 use them anywhere you want your odds of finding somebody when it matters are way higher so if you hear

00:48:03.280 less sensitive tests and your mind has translated that into less useful it's the reverse it's the

00:48:11.440 fact that you can do it cheap and quickly and it gets most it gets most of the big ones not everyone

00:48:21.040 that is the thing that can change the nature of the the curve because if you've got enough people

00:48:26.320 testing you get all the big ones the obvious ones you cut the rate of transmission enough that

00:48:32.240 probably gets it under control so there seem to be two as i understand it and by the way

00:48:38.720 uh at this point i'm still in the learning phase so you should take everything i say in this topic

00:48:43.440 as a little bit of well let's you know get some confirmation about this i want to make sure

00:48:48.080 so i wouldn't give a hundred percent certainty to anything i say on this topic or any other really

00:48:54.720 but there seem to be two changes uh one uh and let's call these over-the-counter tests because

00:49:02.080 that's a better phrase you it's easier to conceptualize that these cheap tests would be over-the-counter

00:49:09.200 versus clinical setting medical setting and uh the sensitivity requirements for these tests

00:49:17.440 are the same as the diagnostic tests so right now the fda has the same requirement for how

00:49:24.720 how accurate they are let's i shouldn't say accurate how sensitive they are

00:49:29.760 and they're comparing these cheap over-the-counter type tests to the ones that you do in more of a

00:49:36.080 clinical medical setting and it's just the wrong standard in this situation now in a normal

00:49:42.880 situation why would the fda ever approve anything that is less good at detecting

00:49:49.920 than whatever whatever we know we could get to under normal conditions this would be a perfectly good

00:49:56.640 standard from the fda fda this is not a normal situation this is a situation where being fast and sloppy

00:50:06.960 gets it done better fast and sloppy now sloppy just means a little less sensitive

00:50:12.160 but fast and sloppy over-the-counter solves a pandemic this is not like any other situation

00:50:21.200 and and the fda needs to be looking at that rule for an exception i don't know if there's an

00:50:27.280 executive order that can change that that may not be a thing but if there is that's what i'd be looking

00:50:33.200 at and the other requirement that the fda has so there are two things that need to change in order for

00:50:40.160 these cheap over-the-counter tests to be a a big tool the others the fda requires reporting of test

00:50:47.280 results now i don't know the details of that but who in the world is going to buy an over-the-counter

00:50:53.120 cheap test and then do what report on it you know who's who's reporting so why would he why would

00:51:01.760 even need a reporting requirement it doesn't even make any sense for this particular application so there

00:51:08.080 are two fda rules that i think probably make perfect sense for most situations it's just that it

00:51:16.160 doesn't make sense for this one and this is what you need a president trump for now again i'm not 100

00:51:25.840 sure that i know this topic well enough but i'm 100 sure that if we haven't exhausted this

00:51:32.800 that we're probably you know not doing everything we can to find out what we can do so we should at

00:51:39.200 the very least exhaust this topic and find out if it's real if it can make a difference if indeed just

00:51:46.480 these two little tweaks to the fda for just a special case could be a thing i think that needs to be very

00:51:54.320 close to the top of the task force's uh uh priorities all right i believe that is just about what i want

00:52:05.280 to talk about today and i thank you for tuning in and i will see you tomorrow

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