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Real Coffee with Scott Adams
- September 08, 2020
Episode 1117 Scott Adams: Persuasion Against Antifa, Cohen's Book, Gravity Batteries, Fake News of the Day
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3
Misogynist Sentences
1
Hate Speech Sentences
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yeah that's a look out my window at the smoky California air that is the air I
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have to breathe if you're thinking that looks like fog you'd be wrong if you
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think it looks like low clouds you'd be wrong that is what I have to breathe
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and it's like that every summer lately because California mass but let's talk about other stuff
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but before we do that should we prepare yes we should because the most exciting part of the day
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everything better except the air quality it's called the simultaneous sip and it happens now
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well there is a smell of sulfur in the air so I'm guessing Kamala Harris is in the state
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I don't know just a guess um somebody alerted me to the fact that uh wikipedia has been updated
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to to include my hoax except that they don't know it's a hoax
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which should tell you everything you need to know about wikipedia so wikipedia thinks that I
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believe that Biden and Harris have satanic messaging the part they miss is that when I
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introduced this idea I said publicly and clearly I don't believe in satan I'm just going to see if
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they take me out of context sure enough got taken out of context uh which is hilarious to me
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would be frightening to the rest of you probably so there's a story about a california fire
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that's already burned 10 000 acres and it was uh it was started by a gender reveal party
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that had some kind of explosive device or incendiary device or something but anyway they they had a party
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they exploded something and it burned 10 000 acres and I wondered what name you would give the baby
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what would be a good baby name for a baby whose gender reveal party destroyed 10 000 acres in flames
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and counting I'm gonna go with Sparky don't you think Sparky would be a good nickname no matter what
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the baby's name would be hey how'd you get that name well it's embarrassing my parents burned up
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half of California so they call me Sparky um Michael Cohen's book I guess is out because there's a bunch
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of tweets about it and I don't I don't know if you've uh read any of the quotes but they're so over
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the top that they actually just read as funny now yeah there was a time when you'd say to yourself
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Trump said what and you'd think oh I'm a little worried about that what's that mean but it's become
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so ridiculous at this point the things that people are making up and putting in uh Trump's mouth that's
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I think the White House called it fan fiction and I've got a feeling none of it is going to have any
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impact I think these are all the things that people think are going to have an impact and
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absolutely nobody cares here's why number one we have four years of Trump we don't really have to
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wonder what he would do or how he would act as president we know exactly how he's going to act
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so revealing all these little things he may or may not have said at some point in the past doesn't
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really tell you anything you need to know because what you need to know is what kind of president
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would he be asked and answered we just watched it for four years so if you want more of that
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you know how to get it and if you don't want more of that you don't really need to read Michael Cohen's
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book because what will Michael Cohen's book tell you that you didn't know already did you know I this
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may come as a shock to you but did you know that Trump sometimes says things which people find
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offensive I know big surprise right you didn't know that and that's really all we're finding out
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so because the fake news and the critics want to put it in the worst possible sense they'll turn it into
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he's a racist he's a he's a whatever but it all kind of fits into one category doesn't it
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if you take everything that Trump is accused of saying or thinking and you and you just sort of
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tried to summarize it it's that he offends people who didn't already know that there's
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oh somebody is saying that the baby name should be smoky smoky would be a funny baby name smoky sparky all
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right um and here's the trick that the fake news and the publishers and the authors are playing on
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you and it goes like this uh imagine if you will close your eyes and imagine that uh all of your
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private conversations the things you've said one-on-one to your closest confidants over the course of your
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life imagine that all of your private conversations suddenly became public
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how would you look would you look offensive maybe maybe just a little bit would you look like you're
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a little bit biased or bigoted or maybe have some bad qualities would you look like you're a hornbag
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or or you're crazy maybe and here's here's the trick it's sort of a magic trick if you will on the
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public the trick is that the way all of us talk privately to people we trust is completely different
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than the way we would speak publicly because if you're speaking publicly you will speak in a way that
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you will protect your reputation but also importantly you would protect the feelings of the people you
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are talking to because you don't need to make any enemies right so when you when you speak in public you
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you speak a certain way that doesn't get anybody hurt or you try to when you speak privately you don't have
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to worry about that because nobody's going to hear it except the person you're talking to
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you in a perfect world in the real world if you run for president and they decide they don't like
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you they might write a book someday so when they take private conversations which wouldn't hurt anybody
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and they move them into the political realm i say that responsibility for the message once moved
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from the private realm to the public should be on the messenger that's right so anything that you
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learned in the cohen book that is offensive should be attributed to cohen because if cohen didn't tell you
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you wouldn't know it are the things that you would say in public that you think are not really
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they're not harmful they're not meant in any bad intention but they're pretty raw you would just say
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it privately you just wouldn't say the same thing in public let me give you a specific example so
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you can get the sense of this president trump is alleged to have said that the uh the the service
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people who fought in vietnam were suckers now i don't think you can believe any of these reports
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because all these anonymous reports etc they they just don't have credibility but let's take it
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as an example and suppose he did suppose that did happen what would you say to somebody in a private
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conversation if they said to you you know i think that the people went to vietnam um they you know
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they meant well they were serving their country but you feel bad for 19 year olds 18 year olds or joining
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the service because they don't know or they didn't know that the press and the government were running
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a scam that the war was not legitimate and so privately you might say to your friends you know i i think
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the service people who who fought in that war as noble as their motives were they were suckers they were
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suckers because if they had known that the war was useless and couldn't be won and didn't have a
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purpose anyway maybe they would have resisted but instead they were good americans good patriots did as
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they were told did as their country asked that's not wrong it's just that the purpose they were asked
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to go fight didn't really have a good justification so if you were talking to your friend privately who
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understood you knew your knew your mind knew your heart if you will and you said you know i gotta
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say the people who fought in that war were were kind of suckers would that offend you if your friend
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said it and nobody else was supposed to hear it let's say neither of you had served or alternately
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let's say both of you had served so that your peers whichever way that goes i think you would not
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be offended by that yeah hoodwinked might be better somebody says in the comments hoodwinked might be a
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better uh way to put it you know that trump uses the more aggressive language for just about everything
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so if his meeting was these these um these young people who got drafted in most cases right they didn't
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choose it they got drafted and they got drafted into a bad situation if he called them suckers privately
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would you have disagreed with that if you knew that he respected the service because he's your friend
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so you know that you just think that he's making a case that the government screwed a generation right
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so i i've got a feeling that when people hear these stories that trump said privately and they
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hear that somebody who was really an asshole made them public let me say this as clearly as i can
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if there's something that you know happened privately and you're the one who makes it public and then it
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becomes offensive because it's public couldn't have offended anybody privately because there's nobody
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listening to it you're the asshole there's just no way around that it's not the person who said it
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it's you it's you michael cohen are the one who made it offensive by making it public it is you
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atlantic magazine and jeffrey goldberg who are the asshole because whatever trump said or didn't say
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could not have hurt anybody when he did it and he would have known that a private conversation
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just doesn't hurt anybody by making it public plenty of hurt because it it actually degrades the
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readiness of our military because it makes put some question in people's heads about the uh you know the
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commander-in-chief that is one of the most despicable acts of unpatriotic
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assholery you will ever see in your life it would be hard to like even invent a scenario
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short of actually directly hurting people that you could do a thing that would be more despicable
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than taking a private conversation that didn't hurt anybody and turn it into a public conversation that
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degrades the entire military readiness of the united states creates chaos creates a race war creates god knows what
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that is serious assholery i mean that's like a 10 and a 10 and i don't know if the public is
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sophisticated enough to do the mental uh you know the mental gymnastics of saying oh wait wait wait
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i have to i have to view this as though it were a private conversation because that's the way it
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originally started and that's a whole different context all right so i've got a feeling that just
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like the michael wolf book the michael cohen book will will be you know some headlines for a few days
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and then everybody will say yeah we don't like michael cohen
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how much do people like lawyers not much right you know unfortunately lawyers do not have a great
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reputation but let me ask you this how much do people like lawyers who screw their own client
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now you could say to yourself hey trump you know should have pardoned cohen whatever but
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isn't it true that what you see is a lawyer who you already felt a little not so comfortable with
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because lawyers are not that popular and then this lawyer actually publicly crucified his own client
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and his ex-best friend that's the worst person in the world okay if your lawyer goes to jail
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that's a bad lawyer if your lawyer goes to jail and then writes a tell-all book in which at least some
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of this looks like it's just completely made up that's the worst lawyer who ever lived you can't
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even get you you couldn't even design a worse lawyer than this all right how about some good news
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there's uh last week a british energy startup came up with this idea that looks like it could work
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for storing energy using massive weights so in other words they'll use they'll use energy to
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lift a weight on a pulley and then when they want to release the energy you know in a battery sense
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like a battery they just let the um the gigantic weight go down the pulley and it you know generates
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electricity by making something turn it turns out that this idea looks actually completely doable on paper
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and that it's it's come down to just an engineering kind of a situation now it might turn out that like
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windmills it sounds better on paper but then you have maintenance issues and it kills the birds and nobody saw
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that coming so much or at least not to the extent that it happened so we don't know if it'll work but
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apparently they want to use abandoned mines that have gigantic vertical holes that go down it could be like
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a mile a mile of depth and put that giant weight in there and apparently they can generate um just a
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ton of electricity but remember it's a battery so you have to put the electricity in before you can get
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it out but still having a gigantic battery would be cool somebody on twitter whose name i didn't write
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down but it was a good comment i wish i had said why why do you need a big hole in the ground
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why don't you just use a uh something like a train a car on a mountain on a train track you know why
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does it have to be under the ground why can't it just be some heavy object on a track to which i say
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i wonder there may be a difference in just the uh how much friction is involved maybe there's an
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engineering reason why that isn't that isn't good enough to just put it on the hill but here's the
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other thing that i ask if you can dig or even find gigantic holes can't you use those gigantic holes
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to condition homes meaning use the the fact that the temperature under the earth is usually around 56
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degrees no matter what and you can use that to pump up air to cool the home if it's too warm or to warm
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a hole warm a home if it's below 56 degrees so could you use abandoned mines wherever there are gigantic
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holes in the ground that exist could you not use them for building a town nearby that uses that for its
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heating and cooling and takes 50 off the cost of that or something anyway so there are some good news
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happening because entrepreneurs continue to entrepreneur and inventors continue to invent
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and while we're concentrating on all this political assholery there are real good citizens creating good
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solutions solutions for the future yeah geothermal is the is one of the words i was looking for there
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all right um the company name is gravisit gravisit gravisity gravitricity gravitricity is the name
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of them they need a little help on the name of their company all right yeah and somebody's mentioning in
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the comments elon musk's company the boring company that bores holes i've often thought that if you just
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bored a gigantic tunnel that would be the first start of building a town above it for the same reasons you
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could use your tunnel for running all of your utilities but it could also be the source of your
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heating and cooling could be transportation under the town could be a lot of things i i've said this
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before but our ability to inexpensively dig really deep holes is going to be one of the key technologies
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of the future yeah that the fact that elon musk owns a a whole a whole digging you know technology and
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company it kind of tells you that that's a bigger deal than just a good idea it really is the future
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you know the ability to dig cheaply underground is the future here's a thought i want to just put
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in your head as we're obsessed with all things coronavirus and virus and epidemics have you noticed
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how much china is treating islam like a virus if it's true the stories we're hearing about what china is
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doing with the uigur minority they are uh muslim minority within china and the reports are that
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they're being rounded up and put in in essentially concentration camps uh and who knows what other
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badness is happening besides that but if you look at the way china treats islam they treat it exactly like a
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virus because the first thing they do is quarantine and like a virus like a regular virus religion does
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transfer by association if you never had connection with anybody physically or over the internet or any
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other way if you never had contact with anybody who had a religion you probably wouldn't develop one
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spontaneously it's it's it's physical contact and communication that makes religion spread
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so i'm not going to say this is good or bad because you know you can put your own obvious
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morality on top of this but it's interesting that china treats religion like a medical problem
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are they wrong because we treat mental health as a medical problem don't we we didn't always
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but today our more enlightened view of the world is that if you have a mental problem that's a health
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problem you know it's no more or less a health problem than a broken leg it's just part of your
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body is not functioning the way you'd want to and and we would treat things like let's say you were
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brainwashed to do something terrible you know to be a nazi or something we would treat that
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as like a mental condition and it's interesting that china treats religion in general now in this case
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they're they're treating islam that way but i think they do the same with the falun gong and i think
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they would do the same with any you know christian sect in china if there was such a thing so it has
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more to do with religion than it has to do with islam but it's an interesting approach as immoral
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as it is um here's something we learned from the coronavirus that the regular flu was always
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bullshit i saw the president say this in an interview i didn't see it when it went live it was
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from not too long ago he did an interview in which he was pointing out that he personally the president
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knew several people who had died from the coronavirus so personally he knew several
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people who died from coronavirus but as trump said and i've said a number of times as well
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how is it that we've gone our entire lives and never heard of anybody dying from the regular flu
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your whole life because even if you say to yourself but scott scott scott this coronavirus killed way
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more people so it's it's obvious that you would be aware of more of them to which i say no no let me do the
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math for you uh i've been alive let's say let's round it off from the moments let's say 50 years or so of my life i've
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i've been old enough that i would have noticed if anybody died for a specific reason so let's take
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50 years of my life and multiply it by the 50 000 people that supposedly died
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uh cover up your speaker for a moment alexa what is 50 times 50 000
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50 times 50 000 is 2.5 million so that would be 2.5 million people who would have died just in the
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united states of the regular flu during my let's say that 50 year period work when i was old enough to
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to know if somebody died um and why they died over 2 million people and i don't know any of them
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none of them that's 10 times as many as have died you know more than 10 times have died from
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the coronavirus in the united states and i don't know anybody who's died of the regular flu now trump
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called this out in the interview and i've never heard anybody else say it who was a public figure
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and he just raised the question why have i never heard of anybody dying of the regular flu
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now he was using it more of a more to make the point that the coronavirus was bad stuff
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which was a really good way to make the point i'm making a slightly different point which is
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i think we've been lied to for my whole life i don't think the regular flu is all that dangerous
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compared to what we've been told i do think the coronavirus is dangerous but part of what made people
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say the coronavirus is not that dangerous is the belief that 50 000 people a year were dying from
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regular flu i don't think that ever has happened i think it was always and that
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the coronavirus is special that's what i think but i could be wrong it's always a good thing to say
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after everything you assert if if i could give you one good habit for open-mindedness it would be this
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we know from the the study of influence and persuasion we know that if people simply make
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a statement or write down a statement especially if they say it in public they come to believe the
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thing they said even if they didn't believe it in the first place so when i finish a finish speculation
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by saying i could be wrong the i could be wrong is not just for you when i finish a statement that is
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obviously speculative and then i say but i could be wrong i'm talking to myself and that's part of my
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self-programming to remind myself i could be wrong it's a really good um thing to do that so if you
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think i was talking to you when i said i could be wrong i was a little bit but mostly that's programming
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myself that's a good it's a good strategy you should use it um so one thing that black lives matter and
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antifa have in common besides wanting to tear down the government uh as they both seem relatively
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okay with sexual assault now isn't that a weird thing to say because if you ask them i'm sure they
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would say no no are you crazy we're not okay with sexual assault that's crazy but they do act that way
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because uh antifa literally wants to do away with the police what do they think is going to happen
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when the police go away it's going to be massive sexual assaults as well as massive every other kind
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of crime there's not really an alternative to that happening so we know that antifa wants an end state
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in which there would be massive sexual assault they don't say that's a goal but it's obviously what
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would happen there's there's no way around that really black lives matter as you're watching them
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they're talking about the um i'm forgetting the names there's so many victims now that i'm getting
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their names mixed up what what a terrible world when there are so many famous victims of police actions
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that i can't keep their names straight you know at one point it was it was a perfectly reasonable
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thing for the protesters to say you know they would say the name say the name say the name
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to make sure you didn't forget somebody who had been you know in this situation but now there are
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enough of them that um i think i could be forgiven for forgetting which one is which it's it's getting
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hard to keep them all straight which of course is black lives matter's very point and so that point is
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taken um but we're watching this latest case of the uh gentleman who got shot seven times and was
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accused of a sexual assault before that now i'm going to say alleged and accused because just because
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he got shot seven times does not make him guilty of an unrelated crime can we agree at least
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can we at least agree that no matter how many times he got shot for something else that doesn't make
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him guilty of the unrelated allegation but it might be um but it does seem to me that black lives matter
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is de-emphasizing the the sexual assault uh emphasizing the police action and that's a choice
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it's a choice to you know lower that priority so it's one thing that antifa and black lives matter
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have in common is less concern about sexual assault and i think the republicans get that right because
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the republicans are kind of obsessed with that topic especially if anybody underage is involved
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that is a very republican kind of thing to to go after stopping that and the president's actually
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had amazing well during his administration it's hard to know who gets all the credit for what but
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during the trump administration the actions against every kind of sexual trafficking have been
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unprecedented so that's that's another gigantic difference that should be mentioned more i think
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uh i want to confess some stupidity
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and i know i'm doing this and i've let me remind you before i i do this that i've told you that one
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of my superpowers and indeed i think one of the values that i can bring is that i'm not embarrassed by
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stuff and it's a it's a learned skill uh to not be embarrassed by stuff and so i'm going to embarrass
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myself now by confessing something i don't understand that i think many of you do understand
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and maybe you could explain it to me now sometimes when i say something doesn't make sense i'm asserting
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i'm asserting that there's something wrong with the thing because it doesn't make sense in this case i'm
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not asserting that i'm asserting that there must be something wrong up here in my head area somewhere in
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the brain department just to me personally that there's something that other people seem to
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understand that i don't and let me put it out there here's what i don't understand when president trump
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or people who agree with him say that the reason we're discovering so much virus in this country is
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because we're doing more testing and the critics say oh how stupid how stupid it's just not true it's
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just not true ask all the experts the amount you're testing has nothing to do with how much virus you're
00:31:22.180
detecting and every time i hear that i go okay continue continue making the point so i can see the part
00:31:32.580
where you say that doing the thing that detects the virus is not the thing that's detecting the virus
00:31:39.940
because there's probably a good reason all all the smart people are saying it you know all the anti-trumpers
00:31:45.940
say it they say it consistently and i believe they're even pro-trump people who say it and
00:31:53.460
and they mock him like it's just sort of obvious why that's wrong and i say to myself what's wrong with me
00:32:03.460
why can't i tell what's going on here i don't honestly i don't even have i don't even have a theory
00:32:11.220
for why that's wrong now is this one of those situations where cnn etc are just telling you that
00:32:21.780
an apple is banana and they're just trying to get away with it or is there actually a smart version of
00:32:28.180
this where they can explain why testing does not find more virus
00:32:33.300
tests are all wrong some people are saying that's a different topic
00:32:45.140
all right so i'm looking at your comments i don't think anybody understands that
00:32:52.260
yeah so
00:32:56.820
are all of you all right here's the funny part the reason i've never mentioned this in public
00:33:04.180
is because i thought it was just me i thought i was being stupid because i can't imagine a scenario
00:33:12.420
where doing more testing doesn't produce more positive outcome more positive results i don't get it
00:33:22.580
all right so apparently there's nobody here who even understands what the argument is
00:33:28.820
much less agrees or disagrees it's it's like you don't even know what they're talking about and we let
00:33:35.060
that go like that's okay i guess it is okay
00:33:42.580
they might be looking at positivity rate somebody said i don't know numbers are numbers all right let's
00:33:50.020
but if somebody does have an answer for that and i still think there might be send it along um
00:33:58.340
i love uh the fact that the president is teasing that there might be a vaccine sooner than you think
00:34:05.780
and there's a big discussion about the fact that the vaccines might be being rushed to have them done
00:34:13.220
before the election now would it be good for the president if the vaccine started to be available
00:34:20.260
even if only for a few people before election day would that be good for trump
00:34:27.060
maybe depends how the news handled it they might say it's rushed and therefore it's worse than not having
00:34:32.820
it that's what kamala harris seems to be indicating but let me give you a dose of the real world are you ready
00:34:42.500
this is if you're below a certain age this will be the first time you've ever heard this
00:34:48.980
this and this is a truism of big organizations of projects of everything this is a universal truth
00:35:00.340
if you don't give somebody a deadline it'll never get done if you don't give somebody a deadline
00:35:08.820
it'll never get done things get done on the deadline doesn't matter what it is this is something
00:35:16.900
i've experimented with all my life uh and i'll give you a concrete example when i was first doing my
00:35:25.060
comic strip uh while i was working full-time sometimes i would sit there in the morning before i went to my day job
00:35:32.020
and all of my time would get used up and i hadn't drawn a comic i just couldn't come up with an idea
00:35:37.940
and i had 10 minutes literally 10 minutes because i i would never let myself go a day without making a comic
00:35:43.700
to make whatever i could make to make a comic and what happened i would always a hundred percent of
00:35:51.620
the time with no exceptions over 30 years haven't missed it once 10 minute deadline to do a day's work
00:36:00.740
i could fit a day's work into 10 minutes now of course cartooning is not like other jobs but the point is
00:36:07.220
if you don't have a deadline things just don't happen and it almost doesn't matter where the
00:36:13.380
deadline is you could say the deadline's next year you could say the deadline is this my guess is and i
00:36:19.700
don't know this field but the people who make the regular vaccine for the regular annual flu don't you
00:36:26.420
think they have deadlines it's probably an internal deadline it's probably a deadline that looks like this
00:36:32.260
if we don't have this done by pick a day if we don't have this done by uh september we won't get
00:36:40.580
to make any money this year because it'll be too late so i would imagine that every vaccine has at
00:36:47.140
least an internal company deadline because if it didn't nothing would happen nothing gets done without
00:36:54.340
a deadline and the part if you're young this is the part you don't know and i would encourage you
00:36:59.780
if this sounds like ridiculous if the first time you hear this you say that's that doesn't make any
00:37:06.420
sense at all i would ask you to talk to somebody experienced in just life if you give a deadline
00:37:16.020
people will meet it it's it's like magic it's one of the greatest tricks of management is that people
00:37:22.260
do work toward deadlines it's just that's it and so when the president makes and i think we would
00:37:28.820
all agree an artificial deadline to get this done by let's say before election day does that make
00:37:36.100
the world a worse place or a better place now if you're inexperienced what you're going to say to
00:37:44.020
yourself whoa that's going to make them cut corners that's a dangerous situation that would be the
00:37:50.180
inexperienced view of the world and i think the democrats will count on you or enough people to have
00:37:56.020
an inexperienced world view here's the experienced world view those fda people and the people who have
00:38:03.380
to approve this they're not going to throw away their whole lives to approve something that doesn't
00:38:08.420
look solid there are a lot of people who are going to put their whole careers on the line to sign off on
00:38:16.020
this thing and they would i think most of them or at least enough of them would be willing to quit
00:38:22.500
rather than put something out that didn't they didn't feel comfortable with so this deadline will
00:38:29.620
almost certainly cause one of two things to happen it'll either be done before election day and it
00:38:37.140
will be solid or it won't be done because the fda will not have have approved it there are only two
00:38:44.500
possibilities so the possibility of it being done before election day and and being shoddy and having the
00:38:51.460
president forced people to say things they don't believe are true about the safety of it very
00:38:57.620
unlikely in the real world very unlikely because this is let life and death if it were just a project
00:39:04.740
and maybe there was just money on the line oh yeah you can get people to lie about that it would be easy
00:39:10.900
to get people lying about you know how good is your product or anything like that but life and death
00:39:16.820
we're talking about you know people in the fda or whoever has to sign off on stuff we're talking
00:39:22.260
about people who would know they would be putting their name on something that could kill or injure tens
00:39:29.620
of thousands of people if you know worst case scenario that's not a that's not a risk people take
00:39:37.700
all right typically and we would hope that there's maximum transparency on those people and if the
00:39:43.380
news business wants to keep everybody honest which would be a good idea we should get the names of
00:39:49.140
the people who need to sign off both government and medical and really really talk to those people
00:39:56.020
know who they are put the light on them and say here's the deal we are literally going to trust
00:40:02.580
you with our lives we are going to trust you with the fate of the republic bob or whatever their names
00:40:10.180
are bob we're looking at you do not sign that piece of paper bob or whoever unless you're willing to
00:40:19.540
put your life on it that this is a good decision nobody you know nobody's magic we can't you can't be
00:40:25.380
right all the time but we're watching bob we got to have that going and we don't have that right now
00:40:32.660
all right um i feel like the loser sucker hoax is already dying from neglect that will just be
00:40:39.620
replaced by the michael cohen book which will be replaced by something next week so it looks like
00:40:45.300
the whole loser sucker thing just fell apart and here's the rule that i would like to put on this
00:40:53.300
which is um if somebody makes several claims whether it's the steel dossier or it's the atlantic article
00:41:03.380
and there's a major claim within there that can be debunked you're done you don't need to debunk the
00:41:10.740
rest of them if you can determine that one of them is clearly a lie and clearly a lie that somebody knew
00:41:17.780
was a lie you don't need to talk about the rest of it walk away and just say it's debunked walk away now
00:41:26.420
the word that cnn used for debunked is confirmed so they just put different words on things so cnn
00:41:34.580
itself confirmed that the story about why the you know the one event was canceled because of weather
00:41:40.980
they've also confirmed that that's not true they too should say and therefore the entire body of work
00:41:48.420
is disqualified but they don't all right um i was thinking about ways that the protests could be
00:42:00.020
um let's say handled or solved and i was throwing out some ideas on twitter let me run a few of these
00:42:07.620
by you um well let let me do some whiteboarding for you i just noticed that
00:42:17.940
my lighting is terrible i still have my lights my curtains up excuse me while i put down my curtains
00:42:24.580
and improve things a little bit um i want to go to the whiteboard here
00:42:28.500
because i don't think most people know what black lives matter or antifa even want so here's my model
00:42:39.140
of the world so before you can argue anything or persuade you have to get people in a a common
00:42:45.060
frame or understanding of the world i would say democrats are favorable to antifa and to black lives
00:42:53.380
matter so far would you say that that is true that neither neither uh that the democrats don't really
00:43:01.700
criticize of course they don't criticize black lives matter uh but even antifa to the extent that
00:43:08.180
antifa are part of the protests democrats are you know sort of on their side what does antifa want
00:43:16.740
how many americans know what antifa wants if you ask them they'd say they want an end to racism
00:43:23.380
does does antifa want an end to racism who knows it might be part of what they want but what they
00:43:32.020
really want is the destruction of civilization now they don't word it that way what they say is we
00:43:38.180
want to get rid of all government and all um and all police let's say they were successful
00:43:46.820
let's say antifa got rid of all government and all law enforcement what would be the obvious
00:43:53.780
undeniable outcome of that well we would be conquered by any other country that wanted to
00:43:59.860
because we would be a sitting duck anybody can conquer us but beyond that if we had no centralized
00:44:06.100
government of any kind we would just devolve into sort of a tribal situation you wouldn't have
00:44:12.820
entrepreneurship you wouldn't have anything because if anybody worked and made money they would have
00:44:18.500
to immediately share it or they would be attacked by the the masses to take their stuff so there's no
00:44:26.260
there's no doubting this that what antifa wants is the end of civilization they they pretty much say it
00:44:33.060
as directly as i do they just don't fill in the blanks like i did which is what would happen if you got
00:44:40.340
what you wanted it would be the end of civilization there's not there's no argument
00:44:45.060
to that that's just what it would have to be because they do not account for human motivation
00:44:52.580
it would be great if humans could all share and still work hard and they would have still have
00:44:57.300
motivation and you didn't need a government because we were all so nice that we would just agree on
00:45:02.180
things but that's not the real world in the real world if you disband your military the country next
00:45:08.580
you conquers you in 10 minutes that's the real world now let's take black lives matter they do not
00:45:14.900
want an end of civilization so it's weird that they're on the same team what they want is to take your
00:45:21.700
stuff meaning anybody who's now black and um to solve systemic racism by a transfer of wealth now if you
00:45:32.980
ask them would they say that does black lives matter say yeah what we'd like to do is solve systemic
00:45:39.780
racism by taking your stuff and giving it to black people they kind of do they kind of do say that
00:45:47.940
because what would reparations be reparations would be taking things and redistributing them
00:45:55.060
what would any of socialism be socialism you know 90 tax rates the things they're talking about would be
00:46:03.060
taking things that legally belong to other people but here's the key maybe not morally that would be
00:46:10.500
their argument so the black lives matter argument would be yeah yeah you you white people and other
00:46:16.980
people have a lot of stuff but you wouldn't have that stuff if not for slavery so really even though
00:46:24.020
the law says it's your stuff it's not really morally your stuff so we're just going to adjust things
00:46:31.300
until they're morally comparable and that would require a change in the law perhaps or legislation or
00:46:38.020
whatever so what happens if you have a system that's based on transferring resources from people who make
00:46:49.060
it and have it to people who aren't making it and don't have it the end of civilization
00:46:58.100
there's no other way that goes either it looks different because they're not thinking about you
00:47:03.540
know the end state they're just thinking about can we solve systemic racism and this would be the way
00:47:09.460
to do it some kind of a transfer of wealth it all ends in the same place it ends with a destruction of
00:47:16.260
civilization now why don't the republicans make that case i don't know that's what i'd do here's what
00:47:26.740
the republicans are offering or could they're offering school choice in all of its forms under the theory
00:47:36.260
that if you've got school choice you at least have um you have the opportunity to make something of your
00:47:43.220
life you can't guarantee it nobody's guaranteeing you good outcomes but at least you have the
00:47:49.060
opportunity i would argue however that there's a missing component and the missing component is that
00:47:55.300
no matter what school you choose they're probably not teaching you life strategies they're not telling
00:48:01.380
you how to succeed and my belief is this that people who use similar strategies in life get similar
00:48:10.180
outcomes if you're black and you get a's in school you don't join a gang you don't do drugs you you
00:48:17.540
know probably could get a scholarship to college how is your life going to turn out pretty good
00:48:24.100
pretty good if you're white and you're born with let's say white privilege but you do drugs do crimes and go
00:48:33.060
to jail you know get your 14 year old girlfriend pregnant and don't pay attention in school how does
00:48:40.580
your life turn out does it turn out great because of all your white privilege no turns out terrible so
00:48:47.940
the big magic trick that black lives matter and to some extent antifa are doing is to make it seem as
00:48:54.740
as if the way you act in life doesn't matter doesn't matter let me give you some advice if you're ever
00:49:04.900
in a discussion with anybody over any topic doesn't have to be any of this stuff just in general and the
00:49:11.540
other party says here's the deal all of the changes have to be on your side and our side we will simply be the
00:49:19.700
benefit of your changes if they say that walk away there is no such thing as a negotiation where one
00:49:29.060
side gives and the other side takes you maybe you would like that to be the case but that becomes a
00:49:36.740
case of negotiating with yourself how about i give you this thanks now give us some more uh okay well i thought
00:49:44.500
i was done but okay i'll give you a little more thank you um now how about some more wait a minute
00:49:51.620
where's this end where's the end of us giving you stuff if you don't tell us what you want
00:49:58.340
it's we would be idiots to give you anything so that should be you know logic uh number one which is
00:50:07.700
if you're not asking for something specific we will offer you zero because to do otherwise is just
00:50:16.260
stupid it's just stupid because you can't negotiate with yourself you have to have somebody on the other
00:50:22.500
side who says if we got this it would be enough maybe we can meet in the middle so i would say that
00:50:28.820
the republicans could have a good case if they said if you get school choice right that's not enough
00:50:34.820
they've got to teach some kind of a life strategy about how to stay in a trouble here's how i would
00:50:40.580
teach a life strategy in the second grade or first grade you want to keep it simple right and whatever
00:50:47.220
somebody learns when they're really really young that becomes extra sticky in terms of brainwashing
00:50:53.220
so you want to brainwash kids every kid i'm not talking about black kids i'm talking about every
00:50:58.260
kid you want to brainwash them early about life strategies and because they're kids you got to keep
00:51:04.500
it simple and i would keep it this simple here's my idea we call it the hundred percent life so
00:51:10.980
instead of saying i'm going to teach you a life strategy you're already losing a first grader they're
00:51:16.420
like the strategy don't even know what that word means so instead you make it a checklist and you say
00:51:23.780
here's how to have a hundred percent life a hundred percent life just means a full life that's got all the
00:51:29.700
good stuff in it if you commit a crime subtract four points if you get bad grades in school subtract
00:51:40.020
seven points if you become addicted to a substance subtract 25 points whatever the numbers are i'm just
00:51:47.620
putting random numbers on stuff but you could actually have a checklist of say five to ten items
00:51:53.620
and just tell the kids if you want your life to be a hundred percent make sure you don't check any of
00:51:58.900
these boxes of of these big mistakes here's these here's why this would work simplification always
00:52:06.580
works but it's better to say you could lose something than if you do something you might
00:52:12.500
gain something in the future imagine telling a first grader that if you work hard today 25 years from
00:52:19.540
now you're going to have a good time doesn't work because people don't respond the same to opportunity
00:52:26.260
as they do to the risk of losing something so instead you reverse the equation and you say
00:52:32.980
you were born with a hundred percent life your life is perfect in first grade you know your home life might
00:52:39.940
be a disaster but in terms of where you could go a hundred percent if you did all the right stuff
00:52:46.660
but i'm going to take away from you
00:52:48.260
you some of your life if you make these mistakes and then people start seeing it as a loss wait a
00:52:54.980
minute i was born with a hundred percent potential and then i made this choice and this choice and i
00:53:00.740
can see how that diminished my potential and then i could look at all the older people who were not
00:53:05.700
having a good life and i could say wait a minute oh yeah this checklist totally works that that person's
00:53:11.220
having a bad life and yep sure enough committed a crime joined a gang it's right here on the list
00:53:18.580
got got addicted to substance there it is it's right on the list had a baby at 12 it's on the list
00:53:26.020
so you could teach a first grader life strategy by just give them a list of 10 things and say
00:53:32.180
don't do any of these 10 things and you'll be fine uh the republican approach should they adopt
00:53:39.460
something like this would be one of abundance where everybody could win so you know that still
00:53:45.860
becomes a problem of equality but if you took care of education and life strategy it might be as good as
00:53:53.700
you can do so it's not a perfect world but it might be the best world that you could produce so
00:54:00.660
that's how i would frame it if i were in charge um here are some just some more thoughts on the same
00:54:10.180
topic um have you wondered why there have been no counter protests uh for the portland stuff so
00:54:21.220
portland actually has an uh a protester camp where they have nice little tents it looks like they were
00:54:28.100
acquired from the same source and they've got like a tent village um where they live i guess
00:54:36.420
they probably sleep during the day and protest and riot at night and i'm not recommending this because
00:54:42.500
it would be dangerous people would get hurt but i'm wondering why it hasn't happened that nobody has
00:54:47.860
targeted their camp while they're gone because you could just destroy again i'm not recommending this
00:54:53.700
because it would be super dangerous people would get killed but i don't know why it hasn't happened
00:54:58.580
it feels like the obvious thing would be some group of uh anti-protesters would just wait until
00:55:07.380
the protesters mostly left the camps and they would just go through and rip it rip it apart or set it on
00:55:13.700
fire or or just steal their stuff or whatever and i think that would uh go a long way but i don't
00:55:20.980
recommend it it would be dangerous just a question all right um did you know and fact check me on this
00:55:29.620
that the original antifa was allied with hitler now i read this on online so you know fact check so here's
00:55:39.460
the claim the claim is that antifa the original one was against fascism but also against organized
00:55:46.980
government just like it is now and that when uh when they had a choice of the weimar republic which
00:55:55.220
was unpopular in germany or the nazis antifa actually chose the nazis because they were seemingly more
00:56:04.420
anti-government in other words the nazis seemed to be on their side because they also didn't like the
00:56:10.580
weimar uh you know regime and so antifa and the nazis allegedly i need a fact check on this
00:56:19.060
worked together to overthrow the government and then the first thing that happened was uh
00:56:24.180
the uh that hitler got rid of antifa because of course you don't want those guys around so the first
00:56:29.380
thing they do is is get rid of their partners and it made me think does antifa think ahead
00:56:36.100
because i can't see any scenario where they don't lose and literally die if if they get what they're
00:56:45.300
asking for it's weird that people could get what they're asking for and it guarantees their destruction
00:56:51.460
but antifa has that philosophy i'd like you to give me something that destroys you but oh yeah it will
00:56:58.740
destroy me at the same time that's a weird philosophy all right um i also think that uh well
00:57:15.860
i'm confused about whether the supporters of antifa which is antifa itself for the most part
00:57:21.620
are lying to everybody else or if they if they don't realize that antifa wants to destroy
00:57:28.740
civilization is there anybody who's in favor of antifa who actually just doesn't understand
00:57:37.380
that in order for them to get what they want civilization itself would have to be destroyed
00:57:42.980
and not replaced with something better because that option isn't there it's not even it's not even
00:57:49.620
something that's unlikely but you know if everything went right it could happen it can't happen
00:57:55.460
there is no way that the united states could have no government which would be the antifa preference and
00:58:01.620
still survive in a world where china still has a government and a military they would conquer us 10 minutes
00:58:08.980
into that plan so i'm just curious whether it's stupidity or or what i don't get it all right um
00:58:18.180
um one of the things that trump could do to mess with the protesters is ask them to pick a leader
00:58:28.020
to negotiate with now what would happen if trump said you know maybe you would help if we could listen
00:58:35.540
to your concerns so you antifa and blm people all your protesters just do me a favor select somebody who
00:58:43.780
will be your spokesperson and bring us some specific demands because if you ever saw their specific
00:58:50.820
demands nobody would be in favor of them and and the the democrats the ones running for office would
00:58:59.380
have to disavow the protesters they would have to but they don't have to disavow the protesters yet
00:59:06.740
because the protesters are cleverly not asking for specific things that you can really dig into and
00:59:13.380
say yes or no to so defund the police sounds like it's specific but it's not because they don't know
00:59:21.620
what that means does it mean the money goes somewhere else do you replace that with something else what
00:59:27.300
do you do with the government itself if you're antifa you don't want the government so simply asking the
00:59:32.820
protesters to to give you a cohesive cohesive leadership set of negotiating demands should
00:59:41.540
make the protesters turn on each other because it would would force them to realize they're not
00:59:47.860
actually on the same team because when it gets to the point where they have to ask for something
00:59:52.980
they wouldn't ask for the same stuff it would be different stuff so it would turn them against each other
00:59:58.980
um so all and i'm going to be working on this high ground maneuver which is getting people to
01:00:09.620
understand that the protesters want the end of civilization but if somebody wants instead the
01:00:14.500
end of systemic racism the only way to get it is through education that's as close as you can get
01:00:21.140
you know there's nothing else that could actually work but education could work we know that
01:00:25.540
um trump did a persuasion play that i thought was just frankly brilliant and i'm going to give you
01:00:35.460
a comparison you remember i've told the story a number of times that i realized that trump could win
01:00:42.100
it all when i especially when i saw him in the debate the first debate in the first election in which
01:00:49.060
he was challenged about his statements about women and he answered with the only rosie o'donnell maneuver
01:00:56.100
now what made that special is that his answer was so funny and provocative that you couldn't think
01:01:02.260
about the original question he he just sucked all the energy from the question which would have ruined
01:01:08.100
his campaign onto an answer that wasn't even an answer it wasn't even the right answer to the question
01:01:14.740
but it was so interesting you wanted to talk about that instead when trump was dealing with these
01:01:21.220
accusations about calling soldiers losers and suckers which i believe did not happen
01:01:26.660
um you couldn't directly disprove it because you can't prove a negative you can't prove something
01:01:32.020
didn't happen you could just prove that you don't see any evidence of it so he had this impossible
01:01:37.860
situation similar to megan kelly asking him this impossible question and the debates how do you get out of
01:01:45.780
an impossible situation turns out there's one person in the world who knows how to do this
01:01:52.100
and his name is president trump so what did he do he said this and by the way anybody who misses the
01:02:01.620
brilliance of this is really really missing a good show because i know that you know the president does
01:02:08.660
a lot of a lot of stuff that you you think well i wouldn't have done that but every now and then
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he'll do something that is just transcendently smart to the point where you can't even recognize it
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as smart it's so smart the smart people can't recognize it as smart here it is he said quote in
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his press conference i'm not saying the military is in love with me this is pacing all right he's agreeing
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i'm not saying the military is in love with me the soldiers are so he's made a claim that the
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soldiers like him and then he goes the top people in the pentagon probably aren't because they want
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to do nothing but fight wars so that all of those wonderful companies that make the bombs and make the
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planes and make everything else stay happy trump told reporters now do you see what he did
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it that's the rosie o'dala move how do you talk about some unsubstantiated claims about what trump
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may or may not have said in private which isn't all that important how do you talk about that
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when trump just dumped on you the most explosive claim any commander-in-chief ever made ever which is
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that his generals are dopes and they're in it for the money oh my god now now here's the good part will
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he be criticized for being the commander-in-chief and basically calling his generals and top military
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people corrupt will he be criticized for that yes how do you criticize him when he's saying the same thing
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that general dwight eisenhower said later president eisenhower i believe when he was leaving office
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and he gave the speech about the the famous speech about the military industrial complex meaning that
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the military was creating wars so that the the industry people could make money selling bombs and
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bullets so trump mirrored eisenhower's most probably the most respected speech any president's ever given
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in terms of it being true prophetic important and totally non um what you call it non-partisan
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there is nothing partisan about eisenhower saying watch out for this combination of the military and
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industry keep an eye on that that's what trump said now that is such a provocative thing because
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remember trump is currently the commander-in-chief it's one thing to say something as you're walking
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out the door and fact check me on that but didn't eisenhower do his speech after he was leaving office
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i think so but that that would be an important point um trump did it while he's running for re-election
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that is a whole other level of provocation because he's saying i'm going to be the boss
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over these people that i don't even think are doing it for the right reasons they look corrupt to me
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how much do you want that president please if if trump had never done anything else
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except throw his own military under the bus and say watch out for these guys they have a monetary motive
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to get us into war if he had never done anything else but just that one thing
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he would have my vote he would have my vote would i care that he called
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the soldiers who were sent to war by by who sent the soldiers to war in vietnam was it
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the soldiers themselves nope it was the military industrial complex who got us hooked up with the war in iraq
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was it because of all those weapons of mass destruction nope it's because the military
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military industrial complex got a new friend called the press now it's the press
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military industrial complex trump although he's never stated this way has basically added a third leg
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to the eisenhower warning watch out for the fake news press military industrial complex because they gave
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you iraq and here's the brilliant part they treated our military like suckers
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yeah do you see it yet that's what trump did
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he actually took trump said the the service people were suckers the worst thing you could ever hear
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right our most respected class of people are our military we like it that way we like them to be the most
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respected class that just works it's just a good idea and he took that and turned that into the military
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industrial complex and even my own people in my organization treated soldiers like suckers
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it's different isn't it now now i know that i get a lot of heat from my critics who say scott scott scott
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you're you're finding you're you're imagining that you're finding gold nuggets in this big pile of crap
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and all it is is chaos and flailing and and trump is doesn't know what he's doing and he's just
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you know he's incompetent he's just waving his arms and stuff and i say to you
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if if my theory was correct from 2015 that trump plays 3d chess or 4d chess if you prefer
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and that he can do things that other people just can't do
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my that that frame of mind would predict that if he were president as he is that he would continue to
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do things that you would say i don't think anybody else could have done that this is one of those
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things this is something i swear there is no other president who could have gotten out of this trap
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not only did he get out of the trap i think we came out ahead because now we're talking about
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the military industrial complex i've added the press and i think we should because that's where a big
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problem is kind of brilliant that that is so brilliant it just you've never even seen a president
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do anything that smart before this is this is other level persuasion smart this is not normal people
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stuff you know i i don't think i could have gotten out of that um all right we're also entering in no
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particular order here we're entering a phase of the pandemic where we're going from a place where
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trump was arguably the worst choice for the job because early in the pandemic what the public seemed to
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want is some kind of empathy and plain talking about how bad it was now unfortunately or depending on your
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point of view fortunately this is either a feature or a bug this president doesn't know how to talk
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negative he just doesn't know how to say things are going to get worse it's also why we like him those of you
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who do like him because he's he's an internal optimist no matter how bad things are it's going to get better
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make america great again it's optimism is his primary feature but if you end up in a pandemic
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and the early start of it you know in the beginning where really you do have to just tell the public
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look this is going to be bad you know i got to be honest with you this is going to be bad but we need
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to pull together he isn't that guy all right if we if we can be honest no matter how much you love
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the president he's just not that guy he's not the guy who delivers bad news and makes you feel
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comfortable with it he's just not but that was the guy we needed you know a few months ago
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if we had had an election then maybe he would have lost and maybe that would have been fine
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if we could get somebody in who was good on that phase it wasn't really you know an option but
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where are we going to be around election day well i think that no matter what's happening with the
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virus whether we get our drugs and vaccines or not we're going to be working on the economy more
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than we're working on saving lives because i think the therapeutics and the way we're treating people is
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so good that the death rate is going to come down probably keep coming down if the stuff we learned
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about vitamin d is true that death rate is going to plunge more if the vaccine works the optimism
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alone will be good for the economy but the death rate will plunge again so we're entering a phase
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where you could almost guarantee that the rebuilding the economy will be more important than fighting the
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virus fairly soon you know we're talking about this winter we're going to be talking about the economy
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more who is the best person you've ever seen for that phase trump i would argue that just as it is true
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that he was the wrong personality for the first part of the pandemic uh you don't want him talking about
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medical stuff because he uses hyperbole you don't want that right you don't want medical conversation
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uh that's a bad bad combination you don't want the eternal optimist to be the one who has to deliver
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bad news every day it just doesn't work doesn't work and i've said this before everybody who thinks
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there's such a thing as a good president and a bad president doesn't really understand how the world
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works there's no such thing as a good president or a bad president there is such a thing as a president
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who is right for the situation i would argue that obama was right for the situation he picked up in
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his first term which was an economy on the edge and we just wanted we wanted a um a reassuring voice
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and obama brought that we wanted somebody that we knew would look at the details obama gave us that
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so he was a perfect fit for taking us off the edge of the economic thing he would not be a perfect fit
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if you put him into the presidency to let's say in november and say okay obama your job is to goose
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the economy not the right guy you know he's solid but he's not the one who's going to put the the
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rocket fuel on it he's not the rocket fuel guy we've only had one president who's the rocket fuel guy
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and that's the one you got so i would argue that the president is moving from the phase where he would
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be the least fitted that you know empathy no optimism stuff and moving into the place where
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you could not design you couldn't design a better situation for this president to fit into
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he's the comeback president he's you know he came back from his own uh business losses in the past
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he came back from being behind clinton he's behind biden right now he's probably going to come come from
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behind and beat biden and he's going to pick up an economy that he had roaring that got whacked by the
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the virus and i think literally nobody on the planet and of seven billion souls i don't think
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there is one better person for this specific need than president trump that's what i think
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um all right um i'm hearing some i'm hearing some uh talk about mail-in votes and uh versus absentee
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balance and the people who are arguing that we have experience with mail-in but we also have experience
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with uh absentee and some states have done full mail-in for a while so the people who say that
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the mail-in vote will be dependable and credible are also saying um that it's no problem because
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we've tested it enough in these states we'll just do what they did it'll be fine but here's the part
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they get wrong 2020 is not like any other year because you don't have any baseline of expectation
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so that let's say the votes came in and they were five percent different than they would have been
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if people voted in in person what's it tell you nothing if we had had a history of voting by mail
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and then this year there was something different in the outcome and you look at it and go huh
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these numbers don't look real it looks like this district faked something over there
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so if you had a if you had a baseline of doing this all the time you could maybe detect if some
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some mischief had happened but 2020 there's no baseline we haven't done it before we expect
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massive cheating because it's america and people will cheat if they can we don't know because of the
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coronavirus what the vote would have looked like we don't know if the polling is accurate because of
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the shy trump voters we have no way to know that the outcome we get is anywhere near the truth
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that's different so everybody who says hey hey hey we've done mail and before we know how that works
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is missing the biggest part of the decision which is wait wait it's 2020 if you had said this in any
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prior year i would say yeah yeah that might be dependable enough even 2016 i would have said yeah
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we know how many people vote we've got a good handle on it we would detect any mischief we would see it
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not in 2020 in 2020 it will be completely hidden by all the other noise from the coronavirus to shy
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trump supporters to the polls being you know not credible entirely so here's what i would suggest
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i think the sooner the government gives the public a clear path in terms of what would happen under
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different scenarios the sooner we can start arguing about the rules instead of figuring out how to kill
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each other when it all goes bad so i would like to see the uh the government in some form just put out
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a flow chart that says this is our understanding of if we get to election day and we don't have a result
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we're going to do this these people will be in charge and they will give us this outcome
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then if we still don't have a result we can trust and i'm just making this part up on this date we'll
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have the supreme court decide again i'm just making this all up the supreme court will decide if we should
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hold the second election if we should just do it again or they might decide to just do it in a couple
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of problem areas maybe there's a state or some counties that look like like they're not reliable so it
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doesn't matter what the process is so long as it looks credible on paper it's presented well in
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advance so that we can live with it for a while i want to be able to live with the idea that no no
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this isn't going to be like normal elections we will not have a result on election night
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then the process will be the follows let's say the process is that we don't uh that we ask the networks
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not to report who is even ahead suppose you just don't report it and you wait till all the votes
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are counted and there's some kind of official sign off before the networks can give you any results
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maybe you just say there's no news on this you just can't report the news until all the votes are
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counted how about that i don't could you make that stick i don't know if it'd even work
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but it doesn't matter what the process is my point is you have to get the public pregnant with that
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process now you don't want to wait till election night and have the public find out for the first time
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where it goes big big mistake that is a civil war sized mistake if you don't educate the piss out of the
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public i'm not talking about having some news stories or doing a release that says what will
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happen under these conditions i'm talking about blanketing the brains of the public with it until
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every every person who might vote can recite exactly what will happen if we don't get you know a clear
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result in a quick time frame through the normal process what happens what's that look like
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does nancy pelosi become the supreme leader or something i don't know all right i've talked too
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long i've gone on too long and i think that's it for now and i will talk to you later
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