Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 10, 2020


Episode 1119 Scott Adams: All the New Fake News, People Who Are Bad at Analysis and Don't Know it, Netflix Should be in Jail, Woodward


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Summary

Trump has the strongest case for a Nobel Peace Prize in recent memory, and it's not just for his foreign policy achievements, but also for his domestic accomplishments. Scott Adams explains why he thinks President Trump is the most likely to win one.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, come on in. It's time. It's time for coffee with Scott Adams. I forgot who I was
00:00:17.140 there for a moment. Am I the coffee or am I the guy? Well, it's all the same thing. If you drink
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00:01:03.580 Oh yeah. Yeah. So good. So in my opinion, the funniest thing that's happening right now
00:01:14.120 is that President Trump is experiencing just blistering, withering attacks on, you know,
00:01:23.560 everything he's ever done. And at the same time, he's been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:01:32.340 Now, here's the fun part. It would be easy to imagine that any president could get nominated for
00:01:40.260 the Nobel Peace Prize. You know, if you're thinking, okay, who is a good candidate for the
00:01:47.720 Nobel Peace Prize, and they have to give it every year, even if nobody did anything, you say to
00:01:53.680 yourself, well, it's no big surprise that there's somebody in the world who's willing to nominate the
00:02:01.880 president of the United States, no matter who the president is. There's always something the
00:02:06.820 president did that sounds peace-like. But what's different is that Trump has the best case for
00:02:17.160 winning a Nobel Peace Prize that maybe you've ever seen. It's not just marginal. That's what's funny
00:02:26.640 about it. You know, you could imagine a situation in which you'd say, I don't know, you know, the things
00:02:34.420 he's done. I suppose you could make a case for it being worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize. But we're not
00:02:42.880 talking about a gray area here. We're talking about the clearest case for a Nobel Peace Prize,
00:02:50.420 maybe ever. Because the beauty of it is that it's not just the Israel-UAE deal,
00:02:59.620 as big as that is. It's also that he managed to get rid of ISIS. He's pulling troops out of
00:03:09.180 everything. He's the first time in 39 years he didn't start a war. And you look at North Korea is
00:03:19.940 clearly in a better place than it was. Trump is getting, you know, he gets criticized for being
00:03:27.860 too friendly with dictators. But it is exactly why we're not in wars with those dictators.
00:03:34.700 It's part of the process. It's part of an explicit strategy, which he told us in advance,
00:03:41.720 that he was going to be good to the leaders of these other countries, whether they deserved it or
00:03:46.080 not. Because it would be a good negotiating position to treat them with respect. And then maybe you can get
00:03:53.100 something done. And if you look at his total body of work, it's kind of crazy. Because even his critics
00:04:02.600 are going to have to sort of give it up for the international stuff. They might complain bitterly
00:04:08.580 about stuff at home. But the international stuff is really, really solid. So here's the thing I like
00:04:17.660 to keep reminding you. If you have a worldview, or a filter on life, and you're pretty certain that
00:04:24.660 it's the right filter, and it explains your reality well, and you think that other people with different
00:04:30.440 filters on life don't quite see things clearly, the only way you can settle that is by prediction.
00:04:39.220 Whichever of those two filters on reality consistently predicts what happens next,
00:04:44.840 is you got to think that's the real one, or the one that's closest to truth. All of the people who
00:04:52.380 said President Trump would create wars and would be completely useless in international negotiations.
00:05:02.480 How did your prediction go? Did your prediction in, let's say, 2016, did you predict that this
00:05:10.600 president would be not just nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize? Of course, you know, it may be political
00:05:17.280 in terms of who actually gets the prize. But that there would be a completely solid and unambiguous case.
00:05:26.600 And really, you can't even think of anybody who would be in second place. It's the most solid case for a
00:05:32.140 Nobel Peace Prize, maybe of all time. Yeah, oh, Serbia, Serbia and Kosovo. Like, I forgot an entire,
00:05:39.680 an entire major component, because he did so many things. You know, he just sort of drops these little,
00:05:46.520 these little, you know, gold eggs as he's going. And you don't realize how many gold eggs there are
00:05:50.840 until you, until somebody nominates him for a Nobel Peace Prize. And you say, well, what's the
00:05:55.920 justification for that? You go, oh, well, there's that golden egg. That's pretty good. Oh, here's
00:06:01.180 another one. Well, here's another one. And suddenly, you've got a gigantic basket full of golden eggs
00:06:06.880 that you didn't quite realize what kind of a portfolio he'd put together for this stuff. So
00:06:12.160 anyway, my point is that my worldview, expressed often and publicly, was that he definitely would
00:06:21.340 be the kind of president who would get a Nobel Peace Prize. So that was my prediction. In fact,
00:06:28.340 I predicted that it would have happened earlier. I would have thought it would happen in the first
00:06:32.560 term. So my worldview predicted exactly where we are on this Nobel Peace Prize nomination.
00:06:42.640 And anybody who thought it was the opposite, you have to now honestly say to yourself, okay,
00:06:47.800 my worldview did not predict. You could still think you don't like the president for whatever
00:06:54.020 reasons. But you have to admit, one of those worldviews predicted perfectly. And one of them
00:07:02.540 got it completely wrong. There's that's some somewhat just objectively true at this point.
00:07:08.140 All right, there's a big story that I'm going to mention without talking about. Now, I wouldn't
00:07:18.460 normally do that, but you'll immediately know why. There's a big story that Netflix is showing some
00:07:25.220 content that I'm not going to describe, even in general terms. I'm not even going to tell you the
00:07:31.200 category it's in. And there are critics who say Netflix should actually go to jail, actual jail,
00:07:41.720 not a joke, the actual literally physically take a person and put them in jail for just running this
00:07:51.460 content on Netflix. Now, I saw that claim before I saw the clips of the content. And of course,
00:08:01.180 I said to myself, that's a little extreme. Obviously, if it's just going to be on a family
00:08:09.120 entertainment platform, Netflix is sort of for everybody. And they have ratings and stuff. But
00:08:16.460 it's a family entertainment thing. Surely, they're not going to knowingly and intentionally
00:08:23.020 put content on their platform, which a reasonable person would say, you should go to jail for that.
00:08:34.960 Actual, literal jail for putting that on a screen. And then I looked at the content.
00:08:43.020 They should actually go to jail for it. Now, I don't like to even talk about this content. So
00:08:52.320 you may have noticed, I tend to stay away from it. Because it's just so ugly, I don't like to put it
00:08:59.060 in people's heads. But the fact that Netflix, with impunity, apparently, can put content on there that
00:09:07.340 literally, you should go to jail for. Actual, literal, go to jail. You know, and I wouldn't say
00:09:16.060 that about just about anything. I mean, you'd really, really have to try hard to get somebody
00:09:22.860 who's as, you know, free speech oriented. And, you know, hey, let's, let's not get too excited about
00:09:28.360 these little offenses and violations. I mean, I'm always on the side of you're making too much of
00:09:33.940 this. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if it's a Republican thing or Democrat. Fairly consistently,
00:09:40.500 I'm the one who says, you're blowing this out of proportion. Not this time. Not this time. You
00:09:47.600 look at it as an adult. And you would say to yourself, somebody needs to go to jail for this
00:09:52.540 actual jail. It's mind blowing. All right. Joe Biden continues to, to run his campaign
00:10:03.900 in which I guess the main strategy besides hiding is to reword Trump's policies into angry and confused
00:10:15.040 old man language, but make it a little more boring. And it sounds like a joke, right? Oh, he's not
00:10:22.180 really running for president by doing, you know, nothing but rewording the current guy's policies.
00:10:27.840 Couldn't do that. Could he? Well, what's his, what's his slogan? Build back better. That really is just
00:10:37.580 make America great again, rewarded, but boring. And now that he's doing a buy America thing,
00:10:45.800 trying to convince people to buy America and bring the factories back. And I'm thinking to myself,
00:10:51.400 in other words, exactly what the president's doing. And then there are, of course, his coronavirus
00:10:57.880 recommendations from Joe Biden, which are, I, the president should follow the expert's advice,
00:11:06.320 which is exactly what he's done from day one. So Biden is literally just rewording what Trump
00:11:14.920 is doing and says he wants to do. He's just rewording it into confused, angry old man language
00:11:21.820 and selling it. Amazingly, he's selling it pretty well.
00:11:29.480 All right. One of my best predictions of all time, which I don't, I don't think it will ever
00:11:36.940 get much attention, but in terms of how accurate it was, it's really good. One of my best.
00:11:43.520 And it goes like this. When the pandemic first started, and maybe I said this in February-ish,
00:11:51.240 but it was early on before we knew a lot. And what I said was that everybody would look back
00:11:59.420 at the so-called mistakes that our leaders and experts made, and they will criticize them
00:12:06.140 with the clarity of what we learn in the future. But it will be completely unfair
00:12:12.120 because leaders were only guessing in the beginning because they didn't have, you know,
00:12:17.580 really the knowledge of what to do. And they knew they didn't know. They knew that there were so
00:12:23.020 many unknowns that they just had to do something and see if it worked. And if it didn't, quickly
00:12:30.160 adjust and try something else and learn as you go. And so in my effort to make the world a better
00:12:37.340 place, which looks like it didn't work at all, I tried to prepare the room, if you will. So I was
00:12:45.880 saying it loudly and often, when in a few months from now, you're going to think that we should have
00:12:52.540 made different decisions because you'll be smarter in the future. You'll know what worked and what
00:12:56.840 didn't work. And you will be completely full of shit. Because if you don't know it today,
00:13:02.680 don't tell me in August what we should have done today. All that matters is what did you know to
00:13:10.380 do today? How did all the leaders in the world do in February? Not so well. Not so well. Because
00:13:19.920 they were all guessing. Were they all bad leaders? Probably not. Were all the leaders in the world of
00:13:27.100 similar quality? Because it seems to me that leaders that you would think are bad in general
00:13:33.340 seem to have, in many cases, coincidentally, got something that looked like a better result
00:13:39.420 than some people you might have thought, well, I thought they were pretty good leaders,
00:13:43.680 but they got a bad result. What you will learn and what the fake news is counting on is that the
00:13:53.380 average person will never be sophisticated enough and never have the, let's say, the talent stack
00:13:59.720 to understand how to analyze this situation. It's hard. I would guess that no more than
00:14:07.060 2% of the public would be anywhere near the capability, and this is not just raw intelligence
00:14:16.260 capability, but experience in analyzing things. That's the important part is the experience.
00:14:22.080 If you don't have the experience analyzing complicated situations, you might think you
00:14:27.980 can do it. Because you might say to yourself, well, I just listened to the news, and there
00:14:33.480 were 10 smart people in a row who said that President Trump made big mistakes. So what else
00:14:41.820 do I need to know? I looked at the news. They seem like smart people. They all seem to agree
00:14:48.060 that the president made these mistakes. Therefore, logically, the president did a poor job on the
00:14:54.660 coronavirus. But here's the problem. 98% of the public doesn't know how to even analyze
00:15:02.940 this situation. So the 10 experts you hear almost certainly are not in that 2%. And you can tell
00:15:10.200 by looking at the way they talk about it. And I've gone through this before, but the fast version
00:15:15.540 is this. Leadership in the end will look like the least important variable in terms of how things
00:15:23.760 turned out. If you can't do your analysis and adjust for, hey, the United States has a high
00:15:29.660 population of African Americans, and they have a worse outcome in terms of ultimately dying
00:15:35.960 from coronavirus. Did anybody factor that in? When they said, how did the United States do? Did
00:15:43.200 they factor in that we have a high population of unusually vulnerable people? I didn't see anybody
00:15:50.120 do that. Have you ever seen anybody do that? Has anybody ever said, we're going to compare you to
00:15:55.620 Germany, but we're going to do this calculation to normalize it so it'd be as if you had similar
00:16:01.180 populations and then see how you did. Have you seen that? No, no, you've not seen that. How about
00:16:09.340 obesity? Gigantic variable. United States has a, sadly, has a fat population. We have an unusually obese
00:16:18.580 population. So if you compare us to a country that doesn't have an obese population or nowhere near it,
00:16:26.480 and you don't do the math to adjust when you're comparing the two, have you compared them? No.
00:16:34.640 No, you haven't compared them. So all the people that you think are the smart people
00:16:39.520 who are going on television saying, look at my graph. Look at Lusitania, Estonia. Look at how
00:16:48.760 Lubrikenburg did. Look how this state did compared to this other state. A hundred percent of those people
00:16:56.320 are idiots. Not in general, but on this topic. There are people who think that because they have a
00:17:05.120 graph and it's real data that they trust, and the data came from a good source, and they took that
00:17:11.340 good source and they put it on a graph, they think they know something. No. That graph is misleading.
00:17:20.640 It's not telling you something you need to know. It's not providing information. It is reducing your
00:17:27.540 information because it's misleading you. It misleads you into thinking that's enough to make some kind of a
00:17:33.500 decision. It's not. We don't know why some states do fine without masks. We don't know why some places seem to
00:17:42.300 need a shutdown and other places didn't. We don't know why some group activities seem to create a bunch
00:17:50.360 of new coronavirus and others don't. We don't know exactly what anything is doing. It's this big ball
00:17:59.280 of guessing. And I can guarantee you this, that all of the leaders of all of the countries
00:18:07.000 said some version of this early on in the pandemic. This feels like a very comfortable thing to
00:18:14.500 assume is true without knowing and talking to every person. Don't you think that every leader said to
00:18:22.040 themselves pandemic, virology, epidemiology, I don't know anything about that stuff, right?
00:18:32.800 So there might be a few world leaders who are also doctors, but in general, don't you think
00:18:38.220 your Putin's, your Xi's, your Merkel's, everybody, for the most part, generally speaking, don't you
00:18:47.040 think they all said, I'd better just listen to the experts with me so far? That all of the, all of
00:18:55.160 the leaders said, this isn't my domain. I'd better listen to the experts. Then the experts, would you
00:19:01.660 also agree, were largely on the same page worldwide because the experts were really good at sharing
00:19:08.620 information. The internet allows that. And so the experts everywhere fairly soon, I mean, not in day one,
00:19:16.800 but fairly soon they achieved something like a consensus. So all the world leaders looked at
00:19:24.200 the experts, looked at the consensus and said, all right, we could be right or we could be wrong,
00:19:30.460 but it's never going to be wrong to do what the consensus of experts say in terms of a rational
00:19:36.540 decision. It's never wrong. It could be wrong in terms of the outcome because again, even the experts
00:19:42.520 were taking their best shot at it, they were legitimately, you know, honestly and professionally
00:19:48.400 giving us their best work, but they had to guess a little bit, right? You can't fault them if they
00:19:57.260 got something wrong because it wasn't possible to know what was right. It just wasn't possible.
00:20:02.860 So there's my take that only the people who don't know how to analyze things think that they can look
00:20:11.600 at President Trump's performance and say, well, that could have been better. And of course, there's
00:20:17.920 always the fact that anything that's good could have been done sooner, right? Now the president's
00:20:26.320 getting, uh, the big fake news of the day last 48 hours, I guess, is the idea that if the president
00:20:34.360 had acted sooner, a hundred thousand people would be saved. Now, is that true? Number one, we don't
00:20:43.580 know. That's a complete unknown. So anybody who says if he had acted sooner, a hundred thousand people
00:20:50.080 would have been saved. There's no evidence of that. There's no evidence of that at all. Do you know
00:20:55.840 what evidence they use? Somebody ran a model. What, what credibility do you give somebody's complicated
00:21:04.280 prediction model? None, right? If we've learned anything, it's that complicated prediction models are not
00:21:14.420 really credible. So all the people saying, oh, there's a model that says a hundred thousand people or whatever
00:21:20.560 would have lived if he had acted sooner. A, everybody could have acted sooner. B, nobody knew
00:21:26.840 what to do. Uh, uh, C, Fauci says, and I don't think he would lie about this. Fauci says that the
00:21:36.860 president did whatever the experts collectively said he should do. And when they said it, he didn't even
00:21:43.100 delay. He did it when they said things should be done. So your, uh, your situation is that, um, it's
00:21:55.040 really, it's some combination of lying and not knowing how to analyze things. So there's some people
00:22:02.840 saying the president did a bad job who know they're lying because it can't be determined one way or the
00:22:08.920 other. Uh, and there are other people who just don't know. They, they think it's just a fact
00:22:14.100 because they don't know how to analyze things. All right. So, and, and you can see how crazy things
00:22:22.740 get because Woodward got some criticism for if he learned during this telephone interview back whenever
00:22:31.500 it was, if he learned that Trump knew it was more dangerous than he had said, shouldn't Woodward be
00:22:38.920 telling people, you know, shouldn't he immediately blow the whistle and say, Oh, I was going to say
00:22:44.600 this for a book, but it's so important. I need to tell the public because otherwise a hundred thousand
00:22:50.100 people will die. Do you know what Woodward said? He said, that's nonsense. In other words, the people
00:22:57.520 who are believing Woodward's book are holding in their mind, these two things to be true, which can't
00:23:03.860 both be true. That if the president had told the public that it was a big problem and they would
00:23:09.880 take it more seriously, we could have saved a bunch of lives. But if the president told Woodward and
00:23:17.060 Woodward told the president and even had it on tape, so you don't even have to wonder if it's being
00:23:22.420 mischaracterized, it's on tape. If Woodward had given it to the public, it would not have made any
00:23:27.680 difference. Those two things can't both be true. You have to pick. Either Woodward killed tens of
00:23:37.560 thousands of people by sitting on it, or the president didn't kill tens of thousands of people
00:23:45.500 by sitting on it. In other words, nobody knew what to do. You know, you could always second guess
00:23:51.840 after you have better information. All right. One big persuasion mistake Democrats are making,
00:24:00.420 and I don't know if it could be avoided, is that dumping all of these anti-Trump books at the same
00:24:05.560 time. I think there are three more anti-Trump books that are going to hit in the next few weeks.
00:24:11.240 If you have too many anti-Trump books, the audience gets snow blind, meaning that they all feel,
00:24:20.160 they start feeling the same. And if they all start feeling the same, they also feel less important.
00:24:27.760 Because here's a memory trick from the book, from the book guy's name, I can't remember.
00:24:36.360 But the trick is this, that memory is triggered by contrast. So if there was, if you only had one book
00:24:45.420 and it said terrible things about the president, people would really notice that.
00:24:50.160 And they'd be like, whoa, that's a big deal. I don't know if it's true or not, but I can't stop
00:24:55.120 thinking about this book. And I would say the Michael Wolff book was closer to that, right?
00:25:01.220 The Michael Wolff book, if you remember that, sort of was by itself for a while. So it really stood out
00:25:07.580 and became a major news thing. But if you have six books that all make sketchy claims,
00:25:13.640 and inevitably some of those claims in those books will be debunked.
00:25:18.840 If some of them are debunked, and the whole audience says, okay, that one's debunked,
00:25:24.100 but what about these other ones? There's still, it's just not interesting. It's just a big wall
00:25:29.800 of anti-Trump books that in your mind just got put in one bucket and then you ignored it.
00:25:35.380 So I think the books will have less impact than maybe Democrats hope, in part because there are
00:25:43.060 too many of them and they dilute each other. All right. So here's the most interesting part.
00:25:51.580 I often tell you that I think I'm watching the news just like a spectator. And then all of a sudden,
00:25:58.800 the news is about me. And I say, wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm supposed to be watching the
00:26:04.420 news. Why is the news about me? And that happened again yesterday. So the Woodward book, part of the
00:26:12.540 promotion of it is, I guess he's dropping some of the audio tapes of the interviews, and they're
00:26:18.600 getting turned into transcripts and articles. And one of them was his interview, Woodward's interview
00:26:24.440 with Jared Kushner. And Jared Kushner told him that to understand President Trump, there were
00:26:30.960 four books that Woodward should read that really give you the complex picture of who President Trump
00:26:39.500 is. Now, one of those books was the Wizard, no, I'm sorry, the Alice in Wonderland, and specifically
00:26:47.300 the Cheshire Cat. And I had to remind myself, what's the Cheshire Cat's deal? I know he's got a big
00:26:54.360 smile and he disappears. But I didn't know, I don't remember much more. And so I read a description
00:27:00.100 of him. And the Cheshire Cat is described as mischievous, smiley and mischievous. And I thought,
00:27:07.640 okay, yeah, that's actually, if you understand that the Cheshire Cat is mischievous, you can say,
00:27:15.700 okay, that is definitely President Trump, right? You know, he likes a little mischief. He doesn't,
00:27:21.660 it's not an accident that he creates mischief nonstop. You know, it's not like he can't stop
00:27:27.500 doing it. Or maybe he can't. But, you know, that definitely is a pretty good description of him.
00:27:33.460 But that's not the whole person, right? And that would be Jared's point, that you'd have to read
00:27:39.700 four different books to look in four different windows to understand what the interior of the
00:27:44.660 house looks like. So that's one, Cheshire Cat, Alice in Wonderland. But one of the other books was my
00:27:50.800 book, Winn-Bigley. Now, Winn-Bigley, the primary theme of it is that the president is a master
00:27:57.920 persuader and uses the tools of persuasion to great effect. How did Woodward categorize my book?
00:28:08.640 Now, remember the Murray-Gell-Mann effect, the amnesia effect? I talk about it too much.
00:28:15.440 The idea that there was this physicist who noted that when he saw a story in the press
00:28:19.780 about his specialty, he could tell it was wrong because it's his specialty. But the moment he would
00:28:26.480 read a story about something else like the Palestinian situation or anything else, he would uncritically
00:28:32.600 read it as if it's probably right. Even though when he reads articles that he knows the content or he
00:28:39.780 knows the field, he knows the wrong and they're universally wrong. Likewise, if you didn't know
00:28:48.020 any better and you're listening, you're looking at Woodward describe these books, he described my book
00:28:55.680 as characterizing the president as manipulative. That's a word I never used. And in fact, I went to
00:29:06.140 Paine's to make sure I didn't do that. So the one thing I can fact check, the only thing I can
00:29:12.540 personally check and I can know with complete certainty is wrong. Coincidentally, coincidentally,
00:29:21.120 the only area that I'm an expert in, which is the book I wrote, I know that he characterized it wrong.
00:29:28.100 I mean, as wrong as you could characterize it. Now, do I now say, well, the one thing I could fact
00:29:35.720 check personally was wrong, but I'll bet all that other stuff was good. I used to think stuff like that.
00:29:44.640 Not anymore. Now I know that the odds of me catching that one little thing that was the wrong, you know,
00:29:51.320 a wrong characterization, it's probably all wrong characterizations. You know, there's no reason to believe
00:29:58.160 any of it's right. So here's my definition of manipulation versus persuasion. Now, this is sort
00:30:05.600 of a personal take on it, but I think it works. Persuasion, this is just my own take on it, is when
00:30:16.220 you're persuading somebody who wants to be persuaded, or at least is no worse off for it. For example,
00:30:24.280 if you're a car salesperson, and the customer comes in, the customer knows that the car salesperson
00:30:31.340 is persuading them. They know that. But it's also very transparent. Every part of the technique is
00:30:38.580 pretty well known to everybody. But it doesn't feel like manipulation exactly. It feels like persuasion.
00:30:45.200 It feels like sales. It's a little icky, but you want the car. And on some level, you kind of want to
00:30:52.620 get talked into it, right? I mean, when you go to buy a car, you kind of want to be talked into it.
00:30:59.540 Because you, in many cases, you've decided just for emotional reasons, and now you need somebody to
00:31:04.680 tell you you were smart. So that would be persuasion, where you're not worse off if, you know, unless the
00:31:11.840 salesperson is just a criminal, they're just being persuasive. They're not manipulating you, per se.
00:31:16.820 Okay. But manipulation would be a different situation. And again, this is just my version
00:31:23.920 of it. Manipulation would be where the person who's doing it has something to gain, and the
00:31:29.480 person who's having it done to them has something to lose. So if it's a win-lose situation, that's
00:31:35.180 manipulation. The president, again, in my view, doesn't do that one. He doesn't do manipulation
00:31:42.900 in the context of the presidency, and running for the presidency. What he does is persuasion.
00:31:49.480 So if he tries to persuade you, for example, that there should be a wall on the southern border,
00:31:54.300 he's not doing it to screw you, right? You could disagree whether that's a good idea or a bad idea.
00:32:01.620 But I think you'd all agree that he's not doing it to screw you, if you're an American citizen.
00:32:09.440 He's doing it to help you. So if he persuades you to get a wall, to fund a wall, are you worse off?
00:32:18.180 You could be worse off in the sense that maybe you don't like that policy. But it's not because
00:32:23.060 there was bad intent. It's only manipulation if you have some evil intention. If you have a good
00:32:29.440 intention, but it requires you to persuade people to get it done, you could be right or you could be
00:32:35.500 wrong, but it's still good intention. And that's persuasion. So I would say Woodward's
00:32:41.760 characterization of my book as calling the president manipulative is just flat out wrong.
00:32:48.520 I don't write it that way at all.
00:32:50.840 All right.
00:32:51.100 There's another fake news today. Eddie Zipper tweeted about this. You probably saw the news.
00:33:03.440 There's some version of this. It said that, I think the Hill reports it this way. They said,
00:33:09.600 Trump said that he didn't have responsibility to understand pain of black Americans. And then
00:33:15.340 they give this quote. No, I don't feel that at all. Now, when I first heard this story and I saw the
00:33:23.500 president's quote, I said to myself, oh, I know how they do this fake news. There's some context that
00:33:31.920 they're leaving out. It was obvious by the quote that it had been taken in a context. And once you see
00:33:38.620 enough things taken in a context, especially when it happens to you, you know, if you're the person the
00:33:43.360 story is about, which has been the case for me in a lot of cases, you can tell when something's taken
00:33:49.020 out of context. As soon as I saw this, I was like, oh, they just created some fake news by taking this
00:33:55.480 out of context. The reason I knew it was out of context is they didn't tell you what Trump said
00:34:01.020 immediately after it. And they also didn't tell you exactly what came before it. And I said to
00:34:08.140 myself, I'll betcha, if I heard what came before that, or I heard what came after it, I would have
00:34:15.100 a completely different opinion on this. Wake up in the morning, Eddie Zipperer on Twitter says in his
00:34:22.920 tweet, this is a flat out lie. He goes, the question was, quote, do you have any sense that that privilege,
00:34:30.280 meaning the white privilege, has isolated you and put you in a cave to a certain extent? And that's what
00:34:36.300 Trump was saying. No, no way. Now, I would disagree with Trump. I would say that being the president
00:34:43.760 guarantees that you're taken out of the normal flow of life, right? I don't criticize, you know,
00:34:51.320 Bush, was it Bush senior who said he didn't know what a loaf of bread costs? That's fine. I don't have
00:34:57.480 any problem with the president not knowing what a loaf of bread costs. Everybody understands that the
00:35:03.900 presidency is not like life. It's a completely bubble situation. So I don't think Trump is
00:35:12.980 accurate in saying that, you know, he can understand somebody else's situation. Nobody can understand
00:35:20.140 anybody's situation. But from a politician's perspective, it would be fair to say, I do
00:35:26.740 understand other people's situation, because you want to say that you, you know, you can relate to
00:35:31.860 him in some way. So I don't think his answer was out of lines in terms of what you'd expect from a
00:35:37.620 political entity. But his answer looks completely different if you know what the setup is. So
00:35:46.980 that's just fake news created by intentionally bad editing. All right.
00:35:54.560 Nicholas Kristof writes in the New York Times, that quality of life in the United States, according
00:36:04.440 to some social progress measure, has dropped over the last decade, even while it's risen in other
00:36:11.960 places. And now we're 28th in the world in terms of how good we're doing quality of life wise. Now,
00:36:19.480 here's what's interesting. The article did not speculate or give any evidence of what it is
00:36:26.620 that's causing our lower quality of life. What does that tell you?
00:36:33.640 Is it sort of conspicuously missing from a story if you say the U.S. quality of life has dropped and
00:36:41.140 there are no reasons even speculated? It would be one thing not to know. But it seems like what would
00:36:47.460 be required in a story like this is experts don't know exactly why, but they mention looking at these
00:36:54.740 areas to see maybe this is why. But it's just completely left out. Right? What do you make of
00:37:03.180 the fact that no reasons are even mentioned, even in casual speculation? Here's what I make of it.
00:37:12.100 It's awkward. Meaning that the reason we're doing poorly might have to do with, I'll just pick one
00:37:21.660 example, the teachers unions. Do you think the New York Times would write, well, it looks like the
00:37:28.380 teachers unions are destroying America? Not completely by themselves, but a pretty big part of it. No,
00:37:35.780 no, no, probably not. Now, I don't want to make an accusation or read minds of Nicholas Kristof. That
00:37:42.720 would be unfair. So I'm not going to make any, there's no negative statement about him. But would
00:37:49.460 the New York Times ever say the reason that things are going backwards is because of liberal policies?
00:37:57.760 They can't. If the problem that was driving us backwards in quality of life were even maybe,
00:38:07.700 even maybe related to the political right, would it be in the article? If you could even come up with
00:38:17.300 just a hand-waving reason why this lower quality of life was because of conservatives? Don't you think
00:38:26.740 that would be in the article? I mean, it's, it's so conspicuously missing. You got to ask yourself
00:38:34.020 why. All right. The, the worst take on this whole coronavirus and how the president did is I'm hearing
00:38:48.080 people say some version of this. The public could handle the truth. So the president should have just
00:38:54.880 told us the truth as opposed to trying to, um, calm our fears. It's not the leader's job to calm our
00:39:03.480 fears. We're adults. Just tell us the situation and we'll decide what to do. I think that's the worst
00:39:10.580 take because that's not what leaders do. And I'll give you, you know, another version of this from
00:39:17.100 Lawrence Tribe. You know him from a professor at Harvard and a big Hillary Clinton fan and a big
00:39:25.020 hater of the president. He's fairly famous as a critic of the president. Now remember, he's a Harvard
00:39:30.280 guy, highly educated. And here's what he says. Um, he says about Trump. Uh, oh, well, he quotes Trump
00:39:41.400 saying, I'm the leader of the country. I can't be jumping up and down and scaring people. And that's
00:39:46.640 Trump told Sean Hannity, uh, that I don't want to scare people. I want people, uh, not to panic.
00:39:52.280 And that's exactly what I did. And then Lawrence Tribe calls him out for that, calls out Trump and
00:39:58.900 says this from the guy who screams about carnage in the suburbs. Now the implication here is that the
00:40:05.720 president is getting people, uh, not scared enough about the virus. And that's inconsistent because
00:40:12.960 he's getting us too scared about carnage in the suburbs, which I take within the, within the context
00:40:19.940 I take to mean that Lawrence Tribe thinks that's not a big risk. Here's what's completely bad about
00:40:27.860 this tank. It is exactly the leader's job to dial up and dial down how scared we are or concerned we
00:40:36.800 are about topics. That is exactly a leader's job. In fact, maybe more central to the job of a leader
00:40:44.200 than anything else they do is telling the people they're leading how much to worry about this versus
00:40:52.440 that. And you don't treat everything with the same amount of worry, nor would you be a good leader
00:40:58.580 if you treated the amount of worry by the number of deaths or the number of deaths you could predict
00:41:05.860 or the number of deaths that have already happened. That's not how things work. Here's how leadership
00:41:12.240 works. If you think the public is not worrying enough about something, you ramp up their worry so
00:41:19.900 that they'll put more effort into it. If you think people could panic and maybe do a run on the
00:41:25.640 stores and a run on PPE and there's nothing good that could come from it, only bad could come from it,
00:41:31.800 nothing good, then maybe that's a situation where you want to dial it down. So for Lawrence Tribe
00:41:38.980 to act as though the leader of the country should treat different situations with the same amount of
00:41:47.960 concern. That's the opposite of a leader. The president should treat every situation like its own
00:41:55.980 thing and then say, are you worried enough? If not, I'll raise it. Or are you worried too much?
00:42:02.700 And that's causing trouble. In that case, I'll lower it. That's what leaders do. That's the whole job.
00:42:08.020 Now, this guy, Lawrence Tribe, is teaching children, college kids. And let me reiterate that in my book,
00:42:21.800 Loser Think, I introduced the idea that the amount of raw intelligence you have doesn't really help you
00:42:28.000 in many cases unless you also have a good exposure to different fields. In Lawrence Tribe's case,
00:42:34.100 he may just be a partisan, so he knows he's saying something stupid and he doesn't care if it works.
00:42:40.160 So you can't read his mind so you don't know what he's thinking. But it could also be that he's a
00:42:45.640 brilliant legal scholar who doesn't understand how leadership works. Because he's not teaching,
00:42:53.440 I don't think he's teaching any MBA classes. He's teaching the law. So I think it's just a gap in
00:43:00.100 his understanding. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt. The news is so insane now, it's almost hard
00:43:11.020 to wrap your head around it. But there's video of Trump talking to Jim Acosta in March. And the
00:43:18.200 March part is the important part. And which Trump is saying directly and as clearly as you possibly
00:43:25.640 could, that he is purposely trying to downplay the pandemic, because he doesn't want to panic
00:43:33.680 the country if there's no good in that. In other words, if there's no upside from panicking the
00:43:38.900 country, but there definitely would be a downside, he doesn't want to have the downside. So in March,
00:43:45.160 he's saying it in public, in the most public way you could, a press conference of the President
00:43:50.140 of the United States to CNN's primary guy, extended conversation on this topic, very clear. And
00:43:58.320 then when the Woodward book comes out, let's say March, April, May, June, July, August, six months
00:44:07.960 later, the press acts as though it's the first time they've heard that the President is intentionally
00:44:15.360 downplaying the risk, and gives his reasons why. How do we sit here and watch these idiots
00:44:24.740 pretend that this was somehow new information, when it was the most public thing the President
00:44:30.960 ever did? When I first heard the Woodward thing, I thought, uh, this feels like not only
00:44:39.700 not new news, but the oldest news you could possibly have. It felt to me like March news
00:44:47.360 when I heard it the first time. And it wasn't until I saw the actual video that I saw this
00:44:52.140 morning, I tweeted it so you can see it too, that I realized just how exactly, exactly, and
00:44:59.620 publicly, Trump had said the same thing to the public. If you say it to the public, in public,
00:45:07.580 as the President, should the public be surprised that he is giving us the cheery version of
00:45:14.220 things? No.
00:45:19.020 As Joel Pollack pointed out in a tweet today, I guess Joe Biden had claimed that over 6,000
00:45:26.280 military people had died from the coronavirus. The actual number is seven. So he missed that
00:45:34.880 by a little bit. Not so much 6,000 as it is seven people. Now, the funny thing about this
00:45:41.800 is that you can add it to the body of Joe Biden lies. Now, you could argue that the Trump number
00:45:52.440 of fact-checking problems is greater than the number of Joe Biden lies. Maybe. But are they
00:46:01.140 the same type? That's the part that the news never tells you. When Trump does, let's call
00:46:07.900 it, let's say he does something that the fact-checkers say is false. Lots of times it's hyperbole that
00:46:15.780 you recognize. Like, oh, okay. Trump said that this has never happened before. Have you not
00:46:23.580 watched enough politics to know that doesn't literally necessarily mean it's never happened
00:46:28.900 before this? Well, it just doesn't mean that. If you're so unsophisticated that you ever believed
00:46:35.060 it to be literally true, at some point you just have to look at yourself and say, uh, okay, I got
00:46:42.180 fooled 20,000 times in a row, but I think this one's exactly meant to be accurate. No. 20,000 times in a
00:46:51.320 row should alert you to a pattern, which is if the president says, I've done the best in this in a
00:46:58.540 hundred years, then maybe it's not a hundred years. Maybe he did a really good job and maybe it's the
00:47:05.660 best in 10 years, which would still be terrific. But if you don't understand that he always talks
00:47:11.480 like that about everything, you shouldn't even be in the conversation. You should just quietly
00:47:18.540 close your Twitter account and just sneak away. Because if you haven't figured out this pattern
00:47:23.980 yet, you're not really at the adult table yet. But the same people who will say, uh, 20,000 fact
00:47:31.400 checking problems with the president will look at Joe Biden basing his campaign on the biggest lie
00:47:37.280 in American politics, the fine people hoax, also pushing the Trump, uh, Trump suggested drinking
00:47:45.060 bleach, one of the most debunked hoaxes of all time. And then, you know, this claim about the military
00:47:53.540 stuff, basically, there are probably dozens and dozens of major claims that Biden has made that are
00:47:59.780 clearly and unambiguously untrue. So anybody who says, I don't like this, President Trump
00:48:07.000 lying business. So I'd better go to Joe Biden. You're the dumbest people in the game.
00:48:15.500 Now, I can, I would acknowledge that you could make a legitimate argument for why you like either
00:48:21.980 of these candidates. You know, I have a preference, but I think a reasonable, smart person could say,
00:48:27.980 all right, you know, here are my priorities. This is why I think that, you know, Joe Biden with all of
00:48:34.080 his flaws still better than, than Trump. A reasonable person could have that opinion. It's not my opinion,
00:48:41.680 but a reasonable person could have it. Here's what's not a reasonable opinion. I'm going to vote for the
00:48:47.380 guy who doesn't lie. I mean, that's just, I don't even know what to call that. If you haven't noticed
00:48:56.900 that Joe Biden lies, again, you probably shouldn't vote if you haven't noticed that.
00:49:05.500 All right. Sometimes you might wonder, are the hosts on CNN good people who sometimes get things
00:49:14.560 wrong? That would be the best case scenario, right? That the CNN hosts are trying as hard as they can to
00:49:22.780 give you the real news. But like everything, some people make mistakes, you get some stuff wrong.
00:49:29.080 That's, that's life. Or are they intentionally lying to you in a way that is awful? And I think we've
00:49:38.760 got an answer to that. Because if you, you'll see the clip, I also tweeted this today, in which
00:49:46.060 Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta are talking about the virus early on. And they're talking about it as
00:49:52.300 being no more dangerous than the regular flu. Now, I completely get how it is newsworthy to say
00:50:00.980 the president downplayed this early on. And he should have, he should have been more concerned
00:50:06.260 about it. But if you're CNN, and you did exactly that, exactly that, and it's on video, and we can
00:50:14.320 all look at it. You know, you can look at it today, I just tweeted it. And you see Anderson Cooper
00:50:19.160 talking to Sanjay Gupta. Now, again, I do not criticize them for being wrong in March.
00:50:28.240 Because I don't criticize anybody for being wrong early on. Remember, that was my rule,
00:50:34.260 and I'm going to stick to it. So Anderson Cooper was not wrong. Sanjay Gupta was not wrong
00:50:40.880 when they said, hey, it looks like it's no worse than the flu. We should be more worse. You know,
00:50:46.400 they weren't wrong in the sense of being irresponsible, because everybody was guessing.
00:50:52.620 The experts were, I think, genuinely trying their best. You knew that a lot of people were going to
00:50:58.360 get it wrong. I don't hold it against them. But from today's perspective, if they're holding it
00:51:05.900 against, it's the major piece of news on CNN. The biggest piece of news is that they're holding it
00:51:12.180 against the president for telling the public the wrong message early on. It's the same message they
00:51:19.200 told the public early on. The same one. If you don't include that in the story, yeah, we're criticizing
00:51:25.680 the president. But if we're being honest, man, did we do exactly the same thing. The president really
00:51:31.920 messed up on this, just like we did. Here's a video of us making the same mistake. You know,
00:51:37.480 got to be transparent. Nobody's perfect. Wish we hadn't done it. In hindsight, it looks like a
00:51:43.880 mistake. At the time, we didn't know any better. Just like the president. Let us show you how nobody
00:51:49.480 knew what was the right answer in March. That would have been fine. But to simply act like that didn't
00:51:57.380 happen, and that the president was the only one who was wrong in March or February, that is just evil.
00:52:07.480 You can't say that Anderson Cooper is a good person, a good human being, because that is so clearly a
00:52:15.960 case of despicable moral conduct in public that I could not have less respect for that, really.
00:52:25.780 And again, I would be perfectly okay with them if they were simply wrong, and now they know why it
00:52:32.580 was wrong, and they talk about it in context. No problem. Completely forgiven for being wrong.
00:52:39.740 But today, you know you were wrong. Today, how about a little transparency, or else you're just being
00:52:48.200 assholes, really. It's hard to say it any other way.
00:52:52.480 Right. And so there's some news out of Michigan that Biden is up in Michigan, which would be pretty
00:53:01.440 important, right? One of the battleground states. So, and I think Rasmussen is showing that Biden is up
00:53:08.120 eight points or something, six or eight points, something like that. And that's a lot.
00:53:14.500 But I saw an analysis by Bruce Stanford on Twitter. I don't know who Bruce is, but I'll just give him
00:53:22.420 credit because this is a real good analysis. And he says that although Biden is clearly headed in the
00:53:28.640 polls, here's the experience in Michigan in 2016 and 2018. So we've seen this, the most two recent
00:53:37.080 elections, same experience. And it goes like this. Every undecided vote went to Trump or to Republicans
00:53:45.740 in the case of the 2018 midterm election. Let me say that again. Every undecided vote went to the
00:53:52.380 Republicans. Okay. And I want to make sure that you heard that right. In Michigan in 2016 and 2018,
00:54:01.360 every undecided vote went to the Republicans. Now, I don't think it was every vote. It must
00:54:07.040 been just most of them. But the point stands. If you take out the absolute part, there had to be
00:54:13.680 some exceptions. But what does that tell you about shy Trump voters? The way this is shaping up,
00:54:25.800 and I suppose I could be wrong, right? You know, it's easy to be blindsided and think you're right,
00:54:32.300 and, you know, Dunning-Kruger and all that. So let me tell you that I'm completely aware
00:54:38.160 that I could be very confident in my prediction and my rightness. I'd be wrong. You know, it wouldn't
00:54:44.620 be that big of a, it wouldn't be a shocker in the world of, you know, strange events. But
00:54:50.720 this looks like a gigantic blowout shaping up. It looks gigantic. I could be wrong, but it sure
00:55:01.100 looking like the president's got a victory here coming up. All right. Those are the things I wanted
00:55:08.640 to talk about today. Yeah, the vote by mail stuff. The fact that the mainstream press is trying to
00:55:19.380 gaslight us, if you want to use that term. It's the wrong term, but they use it a lot. The mainstream
00:55:25.540 press wants us to think that it's crazy to think that mail-in voting could be illegitimate,
00:55:34.780 because it's already been done in states for years, et cetera, some states. But this is, again,
00:55:42.400 just being bad at analyzing things. The thing that you should say is, what's different about 2020
00:55:48.400 from any other situation in which we had mail-in votes? And what's different is the incentive to
00:55:54.820 cheat is through the roof. You know, if there is a penalty for cheating on voting, and people don't
00:56:02.520 really care too much who wins, it's like, yeah, I prefer this candidate, but it's not the end of
00:56:08.040 the world if the other one wins. In that case, you would expect a little bit of cheating, because
00:56:13.740 there's just not that much to gain. But there might be a few people who think they have something to
00:56:17.680 gain. But when you talk about Trump in 2020, the press has hypnotized the masses into thinking
00:56:24.720 there's a Hitler in charge, and it's the end of civilization. If you thought that the alternative
00:56:31.680 to cheating at the election box or cheating on a mail-in vote, if you thought the alternative
00:56:37.560 to cheating was the destruction of civilization, would you be tempted? I hope so. If you're a good
00:56:46.800 person, and you think that you could change or alter the course of history, and that you could save
00:56:53.580 civilization from being destroyed, which is the claim of the mainstream press, basically,
00:56:59.180 wouldn't you cheat? It's the same question of, if you thought an actual Hitler had come to power
00:57:07.500 in the United States, and you could personally kill him, like you could be the assassin, don't you have
00:57:14.260 a responsibility to do it? If the badness is bad enough, you're forgiven for whatever you do about it,
00:57:24.380 because the badness is so bad that you would be allowed to do bad things to get rid of the bigger
00:57:29.360 bad. So here's my, here's my, I guess the bottom line is that the people who are bad at comparing
00:57:39.280 things are going to act like 2020 is just like any other election. People don't care that much who gets
00:57:46.000 elected. Yeah, we have a preference, but we don't care that much. No, that was Gore versus Bush.
00:57:52.060 Gore versus Bush. People had a preference, but not that much. Trump versus Biden. Oh, that's not the
00:58:02.260 same. That is not the same, because nobody really thought that if Gore got elected versus Bush getting
00:58:09.540 elected, it was the end of civilization. Nobody thought that. But with Trump, they have been
00:58:16.240 hypnotized to believe that's an actual real world risk. So that, and the fact that we don't have any
00:58:22.280 baseline to know what mail-in votes should look like in any given county, because we've never had a
00:58:28.020 coronavirus. We've never had Trump running for reelection. We've, we've never had a press that
00:58:33.480 was this illegitimate. We've never had anything like 2020. So anybody who tells you, history tells us,
00:58:41.800 the history with those several states that have been doing mail-in votes, and the history with a different
00:58:47.880 kind of mail-in vote, which is where you request it, which is much safer. Anybody who tells you that
00:58:52.960 those two histories, or the fact that there was a commission that looked into those histories, and that
00:59:00.040 those histories are telling you what's going to happen in 2020, which has nothing to do with the situation
00:59:06.980 that was common to those histories. Anybody who tells you that that analysis makes sense
00:59:13.220 is either a liar, or doesn't know how to analyze things. It's hard to tell which.
00:59:22.340 So that is what we've got. Did you see the latest Joe Biden gaffes? Oh my god.
00:59:31.980 I don't know how anybody can look at those videos. I'm not sure how often the people on the left even
00:59:38.140 see the the Biden gaff videos. But I don't know how you could look at any of those, and think he's
00:59:44.380 ready. I think it was a Joe Rogan who did the analogy that recently, that Biden was like a flashlight
00:59:52.940 that was low on batteries. And you were taking it on a long hike at night. And you're just getting
00:59:59.660 like a little yellow glow out of your your flashlight. And you're thinking, this might be a bad idea.
01:00:06.140 Maybe I won't take a long hike at night with a flashlight with a dying battery. All right,
01:00:12.060 that's all I got for now. And I will talk to you. Later.