Episode 1139 Scott Adams: Debate Preview, I Explain Trump Taxes to Artists, Ballot Harvesting, Shy Trump Supporters
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Scott Adams talks about the wine country fires, electric bikes, and the government wants to make COID's easier to administer. Plus, the Nobel Peace Prize is in the works, and a government task force wants to test COID.
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Hokie, California. I'd love to tell you that that's fog, but it's not. The forest fires are
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encroaching again. These are not too close to where I live, in this case, but the wine country
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is in trouble. However, that's not our concern right now, because at this moment in time,
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everything is perfect. Sure, people are having trouble everywhere, but are you right now? No.
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now. Go. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Here's the coolest thing that happened
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yesterday. I saw an advertisement for an electric bicycle for the water. That's my own description
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of it. They call it a hydrofoil, and it's the Manta 5. And you ride it like a little bicycle,
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and you pedal it, and there's a little propeller underneath you. And it's just a bicycle kind
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of a frame, except that it has some kind of floating device underneath it. And it has an
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electric bicycle kind of assist. And I looked at the video of people just zipping around on
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that thing. And I thought, you know, the first time I rode an electric bike, and I told you about
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this, I realized that this is really the future. You spend 10 seconds on an e-bike, and you wouldn't
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want to do any other kind of transportation. It's just a cool feeling. And I've got a feeling
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that the electric assist human pedaled vehicles are going to be way, way bigger than they are now.
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All right, so that's coming. Other big news, the government task force has announced there's
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now a 15-minute test for COVID. And they're going to make, I don't know, 100 million of them and
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hand them out. Now, the trouble is, apparently, it still requires some kind of a health care
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professional to administer it. Why? Don't know. Because apparently, it's not a deep nasal swab. It's,
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you know, it's toward the front of your nose. It's not the kind that some of you have had,
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where they stick it up to your brain. So all you do is go rant, rant in your nostril,
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stick it in a little liquid, no machines involved, and wait 15 minutes. And you definitely need a nurse
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to do that, right? What? Yeah, somebody's saying it's because of liability. Well, whatever it is,
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it could obviously be changed. I would say that if there is some kind of law,
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I don't know, law, regulation, rule, or something that requires a health care professional for that,
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let's change that today. Is there any reason that by the end of today, that should not already be
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changed? Because there's no reason for it, right? Can we all agree that whatever dumbass reason there
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is that you need a health care professional to go rant, rant in your nose? That's it? I'm pretty sure
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that we can get rid of whatever obstacle that is and make more of them. Now, it's not quite where
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we need it to be, where you've got like a $1 test that everybody can do at home three times a day.
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That would be the end of coronavirus if we had that. But we're getting close. Getting pretty
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close. I don't think it's good enough for contact tracing either, necessarily. But, you know,
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there are a whole bunch of things collectively that are all working in the right direction.
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As you know, you probably heard this, Trump has now been nominated a third time for the Nobel Peace
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Prize. Three separate nominations. And what's interesting is each nomination is different.
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In other words, he's not being nominated three times for exactly the same reasons. Three separate
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reasons. You know, they're related, of course, but he's done enough now that you could have three
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legitimate nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize at the same time. How would you like to be debating
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against a guy who just got three separate Nobel Peace Prize nominations? Now, will he win any? I don't
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know. You know, when I say any, will he win one? I don't know. But three nominations for three
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completely defendable, defensible reasons is pretty strong. The Portland police are getting more
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aggressive. One of the things that they're doing is trying to take the shields away from the
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protesters. I guess they found a big stockpile of shields, and they went in and they took them away.
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So I was reading about this on Twitter, and my first impression of that was, oh, that's good,
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because the shields are obviously being used as offensive weapons and makes the protesters more
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bold, and it's probably bad news, right? You don't really need a shield to peacefully protest,
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do you? Explain to me why you would need a shield to peacefully protest.
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protest. And so when I read the comments, I thought, well, those comments are going to agree
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with me. Why wouldn't they, given that I'm so darn clever and right all the time? So I look at the
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comments, and I'm waiting for the part where they say, yeah, that's a good strategy. Take the shields
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away. I think that could make a difference. Maybe everything would be better if we do that.
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But the comments did not say that. The comments said, well, it's obvious that they planned violence
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because they took the shields away, meaning that it's obvious that the police were planning
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violence because why else would they take the shields away? And I thought, okay, the first time
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I read that, I thought, okay, well, there's always, there's always some idiot, right? There's always
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somebody who has a weird opinion about anything. And then I read the next one. It's basically the same
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opinion. Hey, those, those fascist cops taking our only protection away. They're going to kill us
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with rubber bullets in the head now. And I thought, okay, well, two crazy people. And then I kept reading
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and they're pretty much uniformly against police removing shields, which are basically weapons,
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the way they're being used. They're used in a, in a offensive way, not a defensive way.
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Different worlds. What can I say? But it does seem like a good strategy.
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So I was chatting with my smartest Democrat friend. I mentioned him often because he's very smart,
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legitimately very smart and very well-informed, but disagrees with me on everything Trump related,
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which makes it fascinating. Because when you're disagreeing with somebody stupid or uninformed,
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well, that's the whole story. There's nothing interesting about that, right? The reason you're
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disagreeing is that you know some stuff and they don't know anything. So of course you disagree.
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But when you run into somebody who is actually smart and well-informed and really paying attention
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and they disagree and you pay attention too, and you think you're pretty smart, well, there's something
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to learn here. So yesterday, I guess I mentioned something about the shy Trump supporters not
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showing up in the polls. And my smartest friend, who actually knows quite a bit about this field,
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said, that's not true. It's debunked. It was debunked in 2016. And when people looked into it,
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they found that there was no such thing as shy Trump supporters in actuality. There were problems
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with the polling, but it didn't have to do with people lying to pollsters. And I thought to myself,
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that's weird, because the news that I've read was exactly the opposite, that it was confirmed and that
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they found it. And I sent him an article that showed it was confirmed. It was in some major publication.
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And he said, no, no, no, that was initially. Initially, they thought they existed. But when
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the deep dive was done, it was confirmed. It was debunked. No such thing as these shy Trump supporters.
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The very next morning, I see an article that Joel Pollack was tweeting around from Press Stevens in the
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New York Times, in which he interviewed a shy Trump supporter, someone who wouldn't tell anybody she
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worked with that she was a Trump supporter and gave her reasons. And it's important for the story. It's
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not important in any other way, but because every time we tell a story about politics, you have to throw
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in their demographic information. Someday, we won't have to do that. You know, I think I agree with
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Martin Luther King. You know, someday, we won't have to throw in somebody's gender and sexual preference
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and ethnicity, just to tell a frickin story. Right? I mean, nothing really bothers me as much as that, in terms
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of, you know, the way we talk about things. But you have to do that. But you have to do that. And so this was a story
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in the New York Times about a woman who was described as a 50-year-old lesbian who wouldn't want her
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co-workers and friends to know she was a Trump supporter. And when she was asked about some details
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of what she liked or didn't like, there was only one thing that she didn't like about Trump. She was an
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ex-Bernie supporter, and she liked Trump's economics, and she liked a lot about him. But there was one thing,
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it was one thing she did have a problem with. It was the fine people hoax, which she didn't know
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was a hoax. She only had one problem with Trump, and it was the thing that never happened, the fine
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people hoax. Now, as Brett Stevens asks in the article, essentially, I wonder if there's anybody else
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like that. Is there anybody else out there who is just pretending to not be a Trump supporter but
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really is? So I ran my highly unscientific Twitter poll to see if I could stir up some people. And
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here's the question I asked. I said, have you lied to pollsters about your Trump support? Now, the way
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I worded it was, I didn't say, would you lie? Because that's, that's sketchy. Because people
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might say they'd lie, but maybe they're lying to me. And when they're actually asked, they might
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just automatically say the truth. So I, so instead of saying, you know, would you lie? I said, have
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you lied? Have you actually literally, physically, no kidding, have you actually lied to a pollster
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about your Trump support? 18% of the people who answered said yes, which in just the few
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minutes that the poll ran, you know, the numbers are clicking up like crazy. But just in the
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first few minutes, I think maybe two minutes or so, that came to over 630 people who followed
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me on Twitter, who happened to see that tweet, who happened to answer it, which is, you know,
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a very shrinking group of people, 630 of them have actually lied to pollsters. Now, it's
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a Twitter poll. So can I, can I be sure that these numbers, you know, are reliable in any
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way? No, no, it's an unscientific poll. But do you think that 630 people within two minutes
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or so would have lied to me, but would not lie to a pollster? Maybe, right? I mean, possibly,
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possibly there were 630 people who said, I think I'm going to lie to this cartoonist.
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Why? What, what reason would you have to lie on my Twitter poll? You know, if it, if it had
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been an hour later, I would say, oh, maybe trolls have, have spotted it and a bunch of
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Democrats are coming in to mess up the poll or something like that. But it happened in
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two minutes. In two minutes, it just lit up with people who said they lied, literally already
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have lied to real pollsters. Do you think that's fake? It could be, right? It could be. The whole
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point of it being unscientific is you just can't say for sure it's true. It could be 630
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liars just sprang up just like that. Maybe. What do you think? I don't know. My belief
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is that however many of the 630 lied, there's still probably plenty left over to suggest there's
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a big number there. Now, let me ask you this. In 2016, if you were going to vote for Trump,
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had he not won, or even if he did win, did you think there was a big risk to the rest of your
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life? Maybe you thought a little bit, but probably not that much. I don't remember being terribly
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concerned that my reputation would be destroyed forever in 2016. But 2020? In 2020, you could
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actually get killed for being identified as a Trump supporter. Let me say that again. You could
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actually get killed, and at least one person has as far as I can tell, for being a Trump supporter.
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If I were to, let's say, go to some business or personal thing in Berkeley, California down the road,
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road. And I was just, I just happened to be there for my own personal reasons. And I happened to walk
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out the door, and accidentally, I didn't know it was going to happen, but I came into the middle of a
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BLM protest. Suppose I would, suppose somebody recognized me. Think about this. If I just walked
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down the door and didn't know there was a protest outside, I just walked into the middle of it,
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and somebody recognized me, would I be safe? No. No, I would actually be in mortal danger. My life
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would be in danger just by walking outdoors, if somebody recognized me. Now, if I go where there's
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more normal people than in Berkeley, I don't feel afraid. But I can't believe that 2020 is going to be
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like 2016. Because the level of literal, physical, economic danger in saying you support Trump is
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through the roof compared to 2016. All right. Here's a little dog not barking situation for you.
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Watch CNN and MSNBC as long as they're talking about Trump's taxes. And here's what you want to look
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for. Look for somebody talking about his taxes on one of those two networks who actually knows taxes.
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I haven't seen it yet. Now, I would guess it's probably happened. You know, I would think at least
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once they would have had somebody on who understands taxes. But I don't think so. Have you seen it yet?
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Have you seen anybody on either of those networks who could explain why the tax code is why it is,
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what it is, and why Trump's taxes are the way they are? I don't think so. And when I pointed that out
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on Twitter, someone helpfully pointed me to a CBS interview in which they did try to bring on a tax
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expert. How do you think that went? When the tax expert was asked about all these sketchy looking
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Trump deductions and why he didn't pay taxes, did the tax expert, someone who actually understands
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taxes, say, my God, that's a travesty. How can he get it? How can he do that? Some law must have been
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violated or at the very least something ethical and unethical and immoral happened. Do you think
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that happened? Nope. The tax expert said, yeah, that's, those are just standard deductions. It's just the
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way, basically, this is the way you do it. This, this deduction was available. So he took it.
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One of the things I learned by watching that, and I've been waiting to hear about this because I
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hadn't heard about it at all, is there, the, the point of the audit is that the, and he is being
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audited, Trump is, is there was a $72 million tax rebate, I guess you'd call it. In other words,
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the government paid him $72 million that he had previously paid in taxes. They gave it back.
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And I didn't know what the situation was, but apparently it was this. Obama, in the Obama era,
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they passed a law that said you could, you could take into account losses for earlier prior years
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than before. So the only thing that happened is that Trump initially did not have any way to write
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off that $72 million. He'd already paid it. It was just gone. It was just money that was gone. But
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Obama changed the law specifically for companies like his, where they had a, they had a loss and they
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hadn't, they didn't get the benefit of it because it was too far away. So all Trump did, apparently,
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his lawyer said, Hey, there's a new law. It totally applies to us. So we're going to apply for this
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$72 million. Apparently they filled out their paperwork. Apparently the government looked at
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it. Apparently the government said, yeah, that looks good. And they mailed him $72 million.
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So if you think that whatever happened there was some sketchy thing, I doubt it. I mean,
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I'm not even sure why it's being audited because it sounds like it was pretty straightforward,
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but that's not, that's not the way you heard it from the New York times. Is it?
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Yeah. Did you hear that in the first 24 hours or so? Did anybody explain to you that all Trump did
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his, his, his accountants did was they applied for, uh, a rebate that Obama made available?
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That's it. That's all that happened. That whole part of that story there. Now there may be more to it,
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which would be the subject of the audit, but it's not in evidence as far as I know. All right. Uh,
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here are some other things that people who don't understand how finance and taxes work
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have been thinking. The first thing is, I think that a lot of people believe that when they hear that
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Trump owes $400 million or whatever the number is, I think that people who don't understand how money
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works, when they hear that Trump owes $400 million, they think that he's $400 million in the hole,
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meaning that if he paid back all that $400 million, he would have less than zero money left over.
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You know, he would use up all of his money to pay off the $400 million. That's not the case.
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He's just a guy who has some debt. And apparently, according to him, it's not much debt compared to
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his assets. So like anybody who's got, let's say a good income, but they also have a home mortgage,
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the home mortgage doesn't mean that they owe more than they have. It means there's a little bit of
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debt in a larger picture. So that's the first thing that the, the money morons don't understand is
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that that debt isn't necessarily a big deal. The other thing that I see them jabbering about today
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is there's some indication that Ivanka was paid a $26 million consulting fee. Now, we don't know if
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this is true yet, right? But this is the way it's being reported. And it's being reported like that's
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some kind of an illegitimate write-off that, that he's, he's figured out how to save taxes
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by paying his own daughter a salary, not a salary, but a consulting fee of $26 million. And that's
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pretty tricky, right? It saves some taxes there. Yeah. All, all, all the, uh, all the people in the
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news are pretty sure that looks a little sketchy because, you know, normal people can't do that,
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right? Well, here's the part they're leaving out. The amount that Trump saved in taxes for his
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company by paying Ivanka is exactly identical to the amount that Ivanka paid in taxes because she
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made an extra $26 million. There's no difference. The government got exactly as much taxes, as far as
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we know, unless there was something weird going on with their taxes that year. But as long as they're
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both in the top tax range, which they would be, the taxes just paid a different way, but it doesn't
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change it. So it's basically a mechanism for, let's say, it's, it's an estate planning mechanism.
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But how about this? Do you think Ivanka was worth $26 million in one year?
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I do. I do. Yeah. If you look at what Ivanka adds to the whole operation, you know, both in the White
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House and then, and then you look at presumably what she added to the whole operation when she was,
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you know, in private business. If you tell me that that wasn't worth $26 million, whatever it was,
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you know, I don't know the details, but I would say that's in the range. That doesn't even seem,
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that doesn't even seem high. But here's the cool part. If Trump could pay Ivanka $26 million,
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which I think we'd agree was completely optional, right? Optional in the sense that if he was bleeding
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cash and couldn't pay his bills, would he have paid Ivanka $26 million? I don't think so. So it sounds
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to me like he had enough cash flow that paying off his debt wasn't going to be a big problem.
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Because if you can't pay off your debt, I don't know that you would necessarily move $26 million
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to your kid as part of your estate planning. I think you'd keep it and pay your debts because it
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would be better to keep the big operation afloat than it would be to temporarily just to hide some
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money there and hope that that worked out in the long run. So that's the next thing we learn is
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that probably, at least before coronavirus, which hurt everybody, he probably had enough money to
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pay off his debt. Now here's the other thing. The accusation against Trump is that if his debt is
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really big, that he's at risk of blackmail because he'll need those Russians or whoever to pay off his
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debt. To which I say, okay, the amount of money that would have to be paid off for Trump, let's say
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$400 million. Let's just pick a number for a conversation. Let's say that the Democrats are
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concerned that Russians will pay off $400 million for Trump and therefore he would do whatever they
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wanted to get them to pay that off. I don't think that's the case. But just say that you're a Democrat
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and you believe that. Here's the thing. Is there some other politician? Is there some non-billionaire
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politician, a senator, a president? Is there somebody you can imagine who would not be influenced
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by $400 million? Because paying off somebody's debt is only one of many ways you can give somebody a lot
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of money if you were inclined to do that. It's fairly easy to do legally. You just make sure that
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there's some investment in something that their brother-in-law was investing in. You just make sure
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that somebody in their circle got a lot of money and it's sort of untraceable. So if Russia wanted to
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put a shitload of money into bribing an American politician, they don't need to depend on them
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having debt. That's sort of an irrelevant detail. If you said to Bill Clinton, hey Bill Clinton,
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I think I can arrange to give you $400 million. And let's say Bill Clinton was clever and he said,
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whoa, don't write me a check. That would be obvious. But you know what you could do? You could
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donate to the Clinton Foundation and they give me a pretty big salary and they pay for my jets and
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stuff. So that would be legal-ish. So why don't you do that? My point is, if you're talking about
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gigantic amounts of money, which is the only thing you're talking about, if you're talking about
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paying off Trump bank loans, it has to be a big amount of money. That same big amount of money
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would be just as influential for anybody. They don't have to be in financial trouble. Nobody says
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no to $400 million if they can obtain it legally. So the risk of blackmail is just sort of the same
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everywhere. If you're talking about millions of dollars, everybody has the risk. I would argue that
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Trump probably has less risk of being bribed because I just don't think he would need the trouble.
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There's not enough upside. All right. Oh, and it turns out that the $72 million that Trump could apply
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to for based on his past losses was because of the casino abandonment. So when he got out of the
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casino business, that was the loss. So we know exactly what the loss was. We know it was a real
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loss. We know that the casino thing didn't work out. That was real. And we know he applied for it
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with an Obama regulation. It all looks pretty good to me. I mean, I don't know. Ann Coulter,
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who I consider one of the smartest people who comment on stuff. Also an attorney, right? Very,
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very smart. But I don't know how much she knows about finance and tax law, which would put her in
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good company with 99.9% of the public. But she tweeted today that as an example of how the law allows
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real estate billionaires to get away with murder, how about fixing the utterly corrupt tax code?
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So in other words, even Ann Coulter is agreeing that Trump and other billionaires are getting away
00:28:09.960
with something because they're not paying taxes like little people. And she noted that she paid 50%
00:28:16.160
a year, as do I. And here's the thing I'm not sure she quite understands. What exactly would you change?
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How would you change that to make it better? Would you, for example, say that if you're a billionaire,
00:28:34.800
you can't write off expenses? Or you can't write off all of your expenses? What would be the justification
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for saying that billionaires uniquely can't write off expenses? And what would happen if you did?
00:28:48.100
Suppose you said, all right, here's the law. Everybody owns small business. You can write off your expenses.
00:28:53.300
But if you're a billionaire, you can't, or you can't write them off all. What would that do?
00:28:59.680
It would probably change their behavior. There would be certain expenses, because they can't
00:29:03.900
write them off, that they wouldn't incur. They would avoid. And the reason that the tax law exists the way
00:29:10.740
it does is to encourage business and encourage the greater good, even though there's some minor
00:29:17.620
inequities that happen because of it, it's for the greater good. So how exactly would you change it?
00:29:23.060
Would you change the capital gains laws? Because if you do, that disrupts a lot. You know, there's a lot
00:29:30.500
that depends on that. So you could collapse, you know, the real estate business by changing a law like
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that. You could just collapse the entire business. Is that what you want?
00:29:39.020
How about somebody says a fair tax? There's no such thing as a fair tax. That's not a thing. You can't
00:29:48.220
design a tax system that's fair. If you think that that can be done, you need to look into it. There
00:29:55.100
are only tax systems that can burden some group more than others. That's it. But you can't do something
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fair. That's not one of the possibilities. Because in the end, people always think that whatever their
00:30:07.740
taxes is are unfair. It's subjective. That's why you can't get there. So if anybody can come up with
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some specific thing that could be changed that wouldn't collapse the economy or destroy an industry
00:30:19.620
that's vital to the United States or something like that, I'm all ears. But I think there's some kind of
00:30:25.680
the people who don't know tax laws, I think they imagine there's some obvious fix here. It's like,
00:30:32.760
well, it's obvious. It's sort of obvious. This is all wrong. But if you tweak this, things will be fair and
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the economy will be great. It doesn't really work that way. It doesn't work that way at all.
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Yeah, the flat tax is a talking point, but it's not. There's a reason that it's never gotten anywhere.
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It's because as soon as you start digging into the details, it all falls apart. You know, I mean,
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if it could work, that'd be great. But I think that ship has sailed. There's also the accusation that
00:31:11.280
Trump wrote off his haircuts. And on Twitter, that is being seen as an obvious, unethical thing that's
00:31:18.740
no fair, and it shouldn't be allowed. To which I say, well, there's somebody who doesn't understand how
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taxes work. Because is anybody suggesting that the $70,000 he wrote off for haircuts,
00:31:33.080
is anybody suggesting that the IRS has disallowed that? They haven't disallowed it. If it's not
00:31:39.740
disallowed, it's allowed. All right? If your accountant is not putting in deductions that get accepted,
00:31:49.920
you need to get a better accountant. But this is an example of a deduction that was accepted.
00:31:56.620
Now, why would his haircuts be allowed and yours would not? Why is it that you can't write off your
00:32:02.520
haircut? Well, let me give you a possibility. Is it possible that there was a contract employee who was
00:32:11.780
part of the cast of, I guess, The Apprentice, because the haircuts were related to his work on The
00:32:17.880
Apprentice? And did that person get paid an actual fee for being on call to play with his hair and to
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cut it, and probably also to make sure it's in good shape for the camera? That's an employee.
00:32:33.440
That's an employee who probably he paid, as opposed to the production company paying.
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If you pay an employee, it doesn't matter what they do. It doesn't matter that they cut your hair,
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or if you pay a contract person. So it probably was a perfectly reasonable deduction in the context of
00:32:52.580
being on a TV show, and in the specific context that Trump's hair is part of his brand. You can't compare
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that to anything else. All right. And there's lots of questions about family members acting as
00:33:10.860
as project managers and acting as consultants. And Chris Eliza is writing about this as if there's
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something wrong with it. Almost certainly not. You can hire your family members. There's nothing wrong
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with that. You can overpay your family members. You're allowed. You can overpay your family members.
00:33:32.980
And in this case, because so much money is involved, it just transfers who pays the taxes.
00:33:38.920
So, you know, if Eric Trump is paying more taxes and Donald Trump is paying less, it's the same amount.
00:33:46.820
It's just moved to a different pocket. In case you didn't know, over at Locals, for those who don't
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know, there's a subscription service that I'm part of. Also an investor, by the way. Full disclosure.
00:34:00.300
I have a small investment in it. And that's where I do some of my, well, all of the stuff that I don't
00:34:07.280
put on Twitter that's worth seeing. So the provocative stuff, and I'm putting a lot of
00:34:11.400
micro lessons there on success and persuasion, etc. Things you don't see on Twitter. But Greg
00:34:18.460
Gottfeld has joined Locals. So if you want to see the stuff that you're not seeing elsewhere from Greg,
00:34:25.620
go to Locals.com and look for Greg Gottfeld. And you'll be glad you did. So look for that.
00:34:35.620
So the big debate is tonight, of course, I'll be I'll be tweeting. And I was watching a Brit Hume
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interview. And I hadn't seen Brit Hume use these words before. And he was talking about Biden,
00:34:50.400
and he described Biden as, quote, plainly senile, plainly senile. Do you remember, it wasn't long
00:34:58.620
ago, we were saying things like, well, he may have lost the step. Or we're saying things like,
00:35:06.300
well, you know, he, he doesn't have the same mental acuity. But day before the debate or day of,
00:35:15.240
Brit Hume says he's plainly senile. Now, the reason this is important is that if you if you don't
00:35:22.000
follow Fox News, if you were to rank, you know, the opinion people to the news people in terms of
00:35:28.720
credibility, you know, that the more opinion in the opinion they are, you would say they have less
00:35:34.500
credibility in terms of the factual part. And the more news oriented they are, the more credible they
00:35:40.900
are. So on the, on the most credible end, you'd have Brit Hume, right? You know, Brett Baer,
00:35:47.720
Brit Hume, you know, these guys are considered even by independent people as fair and, you know,
00:35:54.500
pretty much down the middle kinds of players. And even he's willing to go on national TV
00:35:59.540
and say, plainly senile. It's that plainly world word that, that got me, because plainly says,
00:36:06.920
you don't have to talk about it. We're beyond the point where this is a conversation of whether
00:36:12.780
or not it happened. We're, we're completely at a point where it's plain. You know, I see it,
00:36:19.920
you see it, we all see you senile. And I can't believe he used that word, just put it out there.
00:36:26.140
So Trump's strategy tonight. I don't know if he has a strategy per se, but I would guess that he's
00:36:34.600
going to try to get Biden worked up. Don't you think? It seems to me that the most obvious thing
00:36:43.640
that Trump would do is try to figure out how to get under his skin and make him mad. Now, Biden knows
00:36:49.960
that because everybody will be telling him, he's going to try to make you mad. Don't get mad. Don't
00:36:55.780
get mad. So I think you're going to see the Biden over smile. Do you know what I mean by the Biden
00:37:02.700
over smile? It's where he has to listen to Trump say bad things about him and bad things about Hunter,
00:37:10.560
but he wants to act like he's not fazed by it. So he does the over smile. Let me do the over smile
00:37:16.020
for you. It looks like this. Yeah. If you're listening to this on the podcast, it's not very
00:37:24.400
interesting. So he squints his eyes really high and he just does this really fake looking smile
00:37:31.080
that doesn't match the eyes. That's how you know it's fake. So look for the Biden fake smile.
00:37:37.600
And of course, Trump is going to go after Hunter, right? Because that's the most obvious thing that
00:37:43.600
would get Biden worked up. So if Trump is playing it right, he should probably not introduce any new
00:37:55.420
ideas that would be headlines of themselves. Because I think he wants to not make news except for whatever
00:38:03.660
news Biden generates by being, you know, by being tweaked by him. I would love to see Trump make a full
00:38:13.420
throated play for the black vote, which he might. Wouldn't you like to see Trump just say, look,
00:38:20.920
what have you done for the black population of this country? Now look what I've done and already
00:38:26.600
plan to do. Look at my portfolio of what I'm doing for black America, compare it to everything you've
00:38:33.500
done and give me a freaking break. These are not even close. We're not even in the same zip code
00:38:40.960
of what I've done compared to what you did in 47 years, which amounted to what putting black people
00:38:47.420
in jail. That's what you did. So I think Trump could tell a story that would just kneecap the black vote
00:38:55.500
quite factually. He wouldn't have to add any hyperbole at all. He could just lay it out there because
00:39:02.600
at this point it's just factual. And I don't know what Biden does with that except go for the fine
00:39:09.840
people hoax. And here's the thing I know is not going to happen, but I would love for Trump to debunk
00:39:19.060
the fine people hoax explicitly. Now, if Joe Biden brings it up, which there's a very high likelihood he
00:39:28.200
will, what will Trump do if the fine people hoax is brought up? How do you deal with it?
00:39:35.700
Here's how I'd do it. Given that they have a time constraint and so Trump would not have time to go
00:39:42.040
through the whole, well, it's a fake news that they edited this part out, et cetera. If you wanted to get
00:39:47.860
to like the most clean quotable part, I would say, here's what I said that day. I said that the
00:39:56.120
white nationalists and the neo-Nazis should be condemned totally. That's my exact quote. If you
00:40:03.380
look at the tapes that you think I said fine people, you'll see that they cut that out to make it look
00:40:09.180
like I was talking about a different group. So it's fake news. I said this sentence exactly without
00:40:16.940
prompting that they should be condemned totally. Isn't that right, Chris Wallace? Now, Chris Wallace
00:40:25.120
he's not going to do fact checking, but maybe he could help out with the question, if you know
00:40:32.260
what I mean. All right. So there's a, it looks like the grand jury stuff is going to be released
00:40:44.200
on the Breonna Taylor situation. So we're going to get to hear the public is the exact deliberations
00:40:52.180
in the grand jury. I don't know how often that happens, but I think that's a good idea.
00:40:57.740
Transparency will probably help. Um, the, uh, Elon Omar situation with the ballot harvesting
00:41:05.940
is getting interesting, but I'm worried that it's going to go into the, uh, into the, um, the news
00:41:14.200
black hole. What, what would be a bigger story than undercover film of Elon Omar's, uh, campaign
00:41:24.020
people seem to be paid by the campaign, uh, allegedly, uh, collecting all these mail-in ballots
00:41:32.440
and doing sketchy things with them. What, what would be, you know, what would possibly be a bigger
00:41:39.200
story than that? And it's sort of disappearing, isn't it? I, I think the CNN is largely just
00:41:46.580
ignoring it. MSNBC largely ignoring it. Uh, they may have done a mention of it and then just moved on.
00:41:54.180
So it's the, the ability of the news industry to make something go away is the scariest thing
00:42:02.760
that you'll ever see. It's one thing that they tell a story that's not true. I mean, that's,
00:42:09.200
that's annoying and vexing and it shouldn't happen, but you sort of are used to that.
00:42:15.620
But making a story go away, that is actually a true story. It's just making it go away.
00:42:22.720
That's dangerous. That's really dangerous. I saw a suggestion that, uh, one way to promote Trump is
00:42:31.040
to change all your hotspots to Trump 2020 so that anybody who's looking for a hotspot, uh, they're,
00:42:38.180
they're going to run into Trump 2020. So they're going to see a lot more Trump supporters, but they'd
00:42:43.200
be a little bit underground because all you'd see is the hotspot. You wouldn't necessarily know where
00:42:47.460
it came from. I thought that was pretty funny. So if you know how to change your hotspot,
00:42:53.460
change it to Trump 2020. I'm not sure if that would conflict with other people or not.
00:42:58.720
Um, is there any reason why by next election, is there any reason that we won't solve this
00:43:08.520
voting problem? Because, you know, I get that the coronavirus caught us off guard and, you know,
00:43:15.580
so we're not ready to do the, the mail-in ballots as, as well as we would like to be prepared.
00:43:21.080
But by next election, and maybe even by midterm, doesn't it seem to you that we should have this
00:43:28.360
completely solved? And the way to completely solve it, and I can only think of one, is with
00:43:33.320
facial recognition. There has to be a way, both for home, you know, mail-in votes, but also for in
00:43:41.700
person. There has to be a way to use facial recognition to guarantee you're getting the right
00:43:48.700
person voting. Now, the, the company Clearview is, I think, the leader in that area right now.
00:43:57.160
And they seem to be, they do, I think, the best job of, uh, of dark faces. You know, sometimes you
00:44:03.680
get the false, false identifications with some of the, the lesser technologies. I think Clearview
00:44:09.840
is the leader in that in terms of getting actually, actually accurate facial recognition. So in two
00:44:16.960
years, there's just no excuse for not having facial recognition as at least an option or at least
00:44:25.000
something you're testing. Um, all right. Do you believe that the polls are, uh, with Biden winning
00:44:34.740
by a lot? Does that sound right to you? Because it seems that the average of the polls have Biden up
00:44:40.340
by, well, I don't know, six nationally, nine percent in Pennsylvania, something like that. Does that sound
00:44:46.480
right to you? That doesn't even sound close to right to me. Um, but we'll see. We shall see.
00:44:56.020
All right. Um, that's all I got for now. So I'm going to be, uh, watching the debates with
00:45:07.100
Christina tonight. I will be, uh, tweeting as I, as I see things develop. Um, you know, there,
00:45:15.000
there are predictions that this will be the most watched presidential debate of all time.
00:45:20.340
And when I heard that, I thought to myself, yeah, you know, I think that's true. I think this will
00:45:25.580
be the most watched presidential debate, but you know what else it could be. I'm not going to say
00:45:32.300
that this is a prediction, but it is not impossible. It will be the most watched televised event of all
00:45:39.700
time. I'm not going to predict that that's the case, but it's possible because of the, the specific
00:45:48.120
dynamic of, of it being Trump, it being 2020, uh, the stakes seemed so high. And the fact that,
00:45:55.060
um, the real fun here is watching Biden try to keep it together and watching Trump, the world's
00:46:02.080
greatest trash talker, try to set this guy off his game on national TV. Now, if you can tell me
00:46:10.440
there's anything you've looked forward to watching more than that, I'm not sure I believe you.
00:46:16.240
If you, if you, if you told me every sport, you know, literally there's no sporting event I would
00:46:24.120
want to watch more than this. There is also no comedy. I would be willing to watch more than this.
00:46:32.500
There is no first run movie that I would want to watch more than this. This is literally the most
00:46:42.680
anticipated thing on television that I can even remember. I mean, I don't remember anything that
00:46:50.580
I've anticipated this much. I mean, I've enjoyed watching a Superbowl now and then, but you know,
00:46:56.040
those were just sort of routine. I wasn't really, you know, I wasn't really loving it. Uh, I just sort
00:47:02.840
of did it because it was a party time. This might be just maybe the biggest televised event of all time
00:47:13.220
because there's nothing to compete with it, right? TV is awful. What else are you going to do?
00:47:21.000
Why wouldn't you watch this? All right. That's all I got for now. And I will talk to you maybe tonight.