Real Coffee with Scott Adams - Episode 1140 Scott Adams： I Tell You Who Won the Debate and Why. And is Kim Jong-Un Alive？

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00:01:06.540 Ah. Well, of course, we'll be talking about the debates, but a couple of little tidbits before

00:01:14.680 that. Number one, we all heard the story the last 24 hours or so about National Intelligence

00:01:24.260 Director John Ratcliffe. He declassified some information that indicated that Russia was

00:01:33.820 aware that Hillary Clinton was trying to implicate Russia and some kind of collusion with Trump

00:01:43.180 as part of a plan to take attention away from her email. Now, as of this morning, Politico is

00:01:52.880 reporting that it's fake news, that that's not actually something that happened. Now, I believe

00:01:58.820 that's not the final word, rather that the intelligence agencies look like maybe they have some evidence

00:02:07.660 of this, but we shall see. I remind you of the following 80-20 rule. Are you ready? Here's the

00:02:17.220 80-20 rule of the month before election day. It goes like this. Any new story that happens in the month

00:02:27.720 before election, if it's a new thing you haven't heard of before, a new twist on a thing would be the

00:02:33.200 same thing. There's an 80% chance it's not true. Doesn't matter which side it comes from. Doesn't

00:02:40.240 matter what the topic is. If it looks like it's good for anybody and bad for somebody else in terms

00:02:46.560 of the election, you should figure just automatically there's an 80% chance it's not true. So we'll see if

00:02:54.120 that one's true. Um, I have to admit it had the sound of not being true. You know, if you had to

00:03:02.160 place a bet on it and you said, okay, you, you're no expert, but I want you to place a bet on this

00:03:08.080 thing. And the thing is that the Putin actually had a conversation or the intelligence people did

00:03:14.640 over in Russia about Hillary Clinton trying to distract with a Russia collusion hoax. What,

00:03:22.500 what do I tell you about stories like that? Are they a little bit, a little bit too on the nose?

00:03:29.240 You know what I'm talking about? A little bit too perfect? Timing, timing of the story is a little

00:03:36.100 bit too good. It might be true, but I would put a 20% chance on it. If you want to know the odds,

00:03:44.580 um, it would be interesting if I were wrong on that. Another story is that Kim Jong-un,

00:03:51.960 allegedly is holding a coronavirus meeting. Uh, and they showed a still photograph of what looked

00:04:00.600 like it could have been the meeting, except everybody was sitting closely together with no

00:04:06.500 masks on. And it was a still photo, not a video. Now I know they have video. Still photo is fine for

00:04:18.080 some, some purposes, but if you're trying to prove that your leader is still alive, a still photo of

00:04:26.500 not wearing masks during a pandemic suggests that that photo was taken some time ago, as in prior to

00:04:35.400 the pandemic. So maybe even months and months ago, I don't know if there exists a verifiably, um,

00:04:45.680 current video of Kim Jong-un, but I'm going to tell you that all signs are indicating he's not in charge

00:04:54.920 or something. But, uh, everything seems to suggest there's something going on there in North Korea. So

00:05:02.120 keep a, keep an eye on that. I would wait for a sign of life there. All right, let's talk about the

00:05:07.980 debate. Um, I feel terrible after watching the debate. Did any, anybody have that reaction? And you know,

00:05:19.100 some of it's personal, um, I'm going to come right out and say it. The, the president lost my vote last

00:05:24.980 night. President lost my vote last night. Now that doesn't mean he can't get it back. It doesn't mean

00:05:33.640 that Biden's would be a good president. I don't think he would be. I think he'd be a disaster, but

00:05:39.300 here's my thing. Um, and I get, I get what you're going to argue. So before you jump in with the

00:05:47.480 comments, you should trust that I will say your argument for you. All right. So I'm not ignoring

00:05:55.080 the argument. I will say it for you. Here's my problem.

00:06:01.840 In my mind, President Trump needed to do one thing to win the election. Just one thing. He had,

00:06:09.300 he had one thing he needed to do and it wasn't, you know, make Biden go crazy. It wasn't make strong

00:06:16.660 points. It wasn't, you know, be accurate. It wasn't make a good case for a coronavirus. It wasn't

00:06:22.100 any of those. He had one thing he needed to do. Disavow white supremacy if asked. That's it. Now,

00:06:30.700 it would have been nice if he had gone at the fine people hoax to decry it as a hoax. He mumbled

00:06:37.560 something under his breath. When Chris Wallace asked him the question about, you know, would you

00:06:44.520 disavow white supremacists and, uh, and the militia? Now here's the part you're going to tell me like I

00:06:52.860 don't know it, but I'm going to tell you I know it and watch. It won't even stop you from telling me

00:06:58.560 like I didn't just tell you. That's just the way the world works. I don't know why. Yes. I heard Trump

00:07:05.000 say, um, sure. He said the word sure in answer to, would you disavow these groups? Said it twice.

00:07:13.440 So is it true that Trump did in fact indicate he disavows the white supremacists? Yes. It is

00:07:22.360 unambiguously true that the question was asked and answered. He said, sure. Would you disavow them?

00:07:29.480 Sure. But here's the thing. When you saw it happened in real time and then he quickly changed

00:07:37.420 the subject to Antifa is, is, is bad. Didn't you think to yourself, uh, half of the country is going

00:07:46.400 to think you just supported white supremacy because of the way you answered it. Okay. All the people in

00:07:53.180 the comments are doing everything that I just said you would do. I don't know how to stop you from

00:08:02.040 doing it. Everybody who's making a comment that says he did disavow them. He said, sure. That's what

00:08:09.440 I just told you. Okay. Did, did you not catch that? That was the main point I was making is for you not

00:08:17.200 to do what you're doing now, which is tell me in the comments, what I just told you. I just told you,

00:08:25.680 he said unambiguously, sure. And he answered the question. Doesn't come close to being sufficient.

00:08:33.620 Not even close. If you know that the way that's going to be taken is the wrong way, it's the wrong

00:08:40.800 answer. It doesn't matter that it's technically accurate. It matters how you say it. Let me give

00:08:47.080 you an example. Scott, do you disavow white supremacists? Absolutely. Of course I, I disavowed

00:08:54.640 them. I've disavowed them in the past. I disavowed them now. And beyond that, I would disavow any racist

00:09:00.620 group. I would disavow Black Lives Matter, Antifa. Uh, I would disavow anybody who's racist.

00:09:08.880 That's how you disavow white supremacists. Let me tell you how you don't disavow white supremacists. 0.97

00:09:15.720 Hey, Scott, do you disavow white supremacists? Sure. Yeah, whatever. Um, but yeah, what about the

00:09:23.400 weather? What about the weather? That's how you don't do it. If you want to leave the impression

00:09:29.660 that you really support them while technically saying you don't do it exactly the way Trump did

00:09:37.280 it. He, the, the way he did it is exactly how you would communicate that you're really okay with

00:09:43.960 them. Now I'm not going to make an assumption of what he's thinking. That's the mistake everybody

00:09:51.260 makes. I'm not, I'm not telling you that he has bad thoughts in his head. What I'm telling you is

00:09:57.720 that his performance was below the level that could earn my vote. I can't vote for somebody

00:10:05.600 who can't say in a full throated way that he condemns white supremacy while he's running for 1.00

00:10:12.620 the fucking presidency. Okay. Uh, I'm off the ship now. I'm not going to vote for Biden. That would 1.00

00:10:20.400 be crazy. I'm just, he just doesn't earn my vote at the moment. Now here's the interesting part.

00:10:27.500 We'll talk about some of the details of this as well. Here's the interesting part. There are two

00:10:32.720 more debates. What was the, uh, what was the, uh, the biggest problem that Trump had going into this

00:10:42.440 debate? I would say the biggest problem is that the expectation game was on a whack. The expectation

00:10:49.280 is that Trump would just destroy Biden. That didn't happen. In fact, I would say maybe his worst

00:10:58.020 performance as a debater, maybe his worst performance. And, but what does that do? Well,

00:11:06.740 it's going to give him a solid week of bad news, right? But what about the next debate? What happens

00:11:14.200 at the next debate? The expectation game just got flipped at the next debate? You're going to think

00:11:22.180 to yourself, I know Biden was solid enough. He didn't fall over. So he's solid enough. He should

00:11:30.640 be solid ish for the second debate and the third. That's your expectation. Now, what do you expect

00:11:37.000 about Trump? Well, you certainly expect he's going to get that question again. Uh, I don't know who the

00:11:43.400 moderator is for the next debate, but of course I fit. I think they may have different question

00:11:49.980 topics, but I feel like, I feel like they're going to work that question in somehow, or at least Biden

00:11:55.720 will work it in. What will Trump do the second time he gets the question? And you know, it's just a

00:12:03.980 layup and he missed the layup this last time and other times. Um, somebody says, did Biden earn my

00:12:13.040 vote? No, Biden did not earn my vote. He did not. Um, but the expectations are flipped now. So what you

00:12:22.180 might find, what you might find is that Trump, uh, if he, if there are three debates, Trump actually has a

00:12:32.280 weird advantage. And if you don't see that yet, you will, because it's going to take a while. People

00:12:39.580 are still reveling in this debate. They're, they're not yet thinking too much about the next one. The

00:12:45.460 moment their minds switch to the next debate, there's going to be an oh shit moment because 1.00

00:12:51.600 the Democrats are going to say, oh shit, our expectations are sky high now. That's not good. 1.00

00:12:57.920 The odds that the Biden will have, uh, let's say, uh, uh, a cognitive event and the next two,

00:13:06.080 two debates, it's non-zero. I mean, I don't know what the odds are, but it's non-zero.

00:13:11.900 So it's got to make them a little bit nervous. All right, let's talk about some of these specific

00:13:16.160 things. Uh, I don't believe Joe was wearing an earpiece or a wire. There was no indication

00:13:22.840 of an earpiece or a wire, but of course the internet being the internet, there's, uh, there

00:13:28.740 are photos of what appears to be a wire, uh, under his lapel, but it's just a fold in his

00:13:35.020 shirt. So all over the internet, there's this bad photo of something that looks like a wire,

00:13:39.200 but it's just a, a wrinkle. And then there's something that looks like it's coming out of

00:13:43.660 his sleeve, but apparently he wears a rosary around his, his, uh, his, uh, wrist for his son

00:13:50.940 or something. So, so I would say that that, that is debunked. I don't think there was any

00:13:57.080 wire or earpiece. I would say that Trump was prepared. It looked like he was very prepared.

00:14:04.220 I think he, he blew it in my opinion, but it looked like he was prepared. So that's good

00:14:09.880 news. Um, here's the frame that, uh, was it Ryan Lizza? I think he's the one who pointed

00:14:17.740 down and it was the first time I'd ever noticed, but once you notice it, you can't unnotice it.

00:14:23.580 And it goes like this. When Trump debates, he has a strong preference for offense. So even

00:14:31.000 his defense is sort of an offense. So if somebody says you, you murdered a baby, what Trump doesn't

00:14:38.640 do as often as you think he ought to is to start off by saying, that's not true. I didn't murder

00:14:45.700 a baby. That's what you would do, right? If you were in a debate and the other person said,

00:14:52.080 well, you murdered a baby. Don't you think your first instinct would be to say, well, that's not

00:14:57.940 true. I didn't murder a baby. If you watch Trump long enough, and this is what Ryan Lizza noticed,

00:15:05.560 and he called it out as a positive in terms of technique. It might be, it might be, but I think

00:15:11.480 there's an exception to it. And so if somebody says, Trump, you murdered a baby, instead of saying,

00:15:18.360 I did not murder a baby, he will say, you killed a hippopotamus or something. He'll just accuse you

00:15:25.940 of something worse. So for example, and I think this is a good technique. So when Biden was saying,

00:15:34.720 you did a bad job on coronavirus and killed over 200,000 people, it's a ridiculous claim that 0.88

00:15:43.240 they're all because of Trump, right? But Trump, instead of trying to defend it, which probably

00:15:50.380 would be a strategic mistake, he says, you would have done worse. And here's why. And he says,

00:15:56.720 you know, you wouldn't have closed the border, et cetera. That's not bad. It's not bad. I think he's

00:16:03.940 weak on coronavirus. So there's not like a kill shot you can do to get out of that. But it probably

00:16:10.520 is about as good as you can do in the time constraint and the format of a debate to simply say,

00:16:17.460 you would have done worse. Because how can you prove that's not true? It's an unprovable statement

00:16:24.760 that might be true, might be untrue. Don't know. So as a debate technique, it's probably pretty

00:16:33.940 strong. But here's where it fails. Where it fails is if you're accused of calling neo-Nazis fine

00:16:41.700 people. All Trump did was sort of mumble something about it wasn't true. But he never returned to the

00:16:49.660 point. He never defended himself against the accusation that he called the neo-Nazis fine

00:16:55.840 people, which is not true. He never did it. So how hard would it be to defend yourself against

00:17:01.200 something that's so well documented? And I think what he mumbled when Biden was still talking

00:17:09.060 was something like, read the rest of the statement. Because that's the defense. The rest of his

00:17:14.820 statement that they always leave out is where he clarified that he was condemning the neo-Nazis

00:17:22.320 and white nationalists. So to let that go, just because your method is always to attack,

00:17:30.180 I feel like that should have been an exception. And honestly, let me depart a little bit from

00:17:39.420 objective analysis. Now, I don't think anybody can really be objective about any of this stuff.

00:17:47.780 So it's sort of ridiculous to try to claim that you're completely objective. Nobody can achieve

00:17:53.660 that at the moment. But I want to confess a little bit of emotional attachment. I felt that I was

00:18:03.400 personally thrown under the bus by the president last night. It felt personal. Because I've spent

00:18:10.420 a tremendous amount of my personal capital explaining to the world that the fine people hoax was a hoax,

00:18:17.780 and obviously he's condemned all these groups. A number of times you'll see compilation clips of

00:18:23.660 him condemning those same groups. So it's not like he hasn't done it plenty of times. But when the fine

00:18:29.460 people hoax came up again, I literally stood up from the couch and said, here it is. Here's the moment

00:18:37.080 where Trump just has to say, you know, you based your entire campaign on that lie. I just encourage

00:18:44.560 everybody to look at the transcript. And you'll see that the part that they cut out is the part where

00:18:49.260 I clarified that I'm condemning those groups. If he had said that, I would have said, I'm really happy

00:18:56.800 that I've spent so much of my time and my personal credibility, a great deal of money. I would say that

00:19:04.080 my personal financial situation is way worse, way worse, because of supporting the president. There's no

00:19:13.900 question about that. And I thought, it's so obvious what you should say in this situation. And then he just

00:19:22.400 didn't. And I thought to myself, I really feel abused. Honestly, I was actually, I took it personally.

00:19:32.800 That that wasn't politics anymore. That was not politics anymore. That was me personally. And I feel

00:19:39.380 like he screwed me personally. And then I had to sit there stewing in that. And then this, this white 1.00

00:19:48.000 nationalist, the white supremacist question comes up, and he botched it. It was a layup. It was free

00:19:56.460 money sitting on the fucking table. And he left it there. And he left me on that table too. He left me 1.00

00:20:03.940 just exposed. So he lost my vote. He lost my vote. Can he get it back? Yeah, all he'd have to do is fix

00:20:13.200 that. I mean, how hard is it to fix it? Well, apparently, it's pretty fucking hard for him,

00:20:18.720 because he's taken three years since, since Charlottesville. And he hasn't fucking fixed it 0.98

00:20:23.660 yet. Easiest fucking thing he'd ever fix. I take it personally. So those of you who are disagreeing 0.99

00:20:33.120 with me and saying, blah, blah, blah, Scott, you don't understand, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:20:37.940 blah, blah, blah. No, this is personal. I'm not talking about the election anymore. I'm not talking

00:20:42.840 about you. I'm not trying to change your mind. I don't, I don't expect you to come over to my

00:20:48.240 point of view. I'm not even trying to. I'm telling you, I feel abused by that. I feel actually abused

00:20:55.960 by that. And don't ask me to be happy about it, because I'm not going to be. All right. Let's talk

00:21:04.340 about what went right or wrong. So Trump took the approach of just ignoring the rules and sort of

00:21:12.760 trying to dominate the situation, and trying to be the more powerful person, so that there would be

00:21:20.260 a contrast to the lesser powerful person, Biden. I think that much worked. I think the fact that he

00:21:28.420 completely abused the rules and took over the situation, I didn't mind that at all, actually.

00:21:36.520 It was a, it was a hot mess. But that's what we signed up for, right? The reason, the reason that

00:21:43.040 I waited for two hours before the debate, I couldn't, I couldn't even leave my living room. Like, I didn't

00:21:49.140 want to miss the first minute. So I was there like hours early to my own living room. And it's what I

00:21:55.760 wanted to see. I wanted to see. I wanted to see a spectacle. I wanted to see a gunfight. I wanted

00:22:01.240 to see, you know, pigs wrestling. And that's what I got. So as, as a technique for potentially pushing 0.90

00:22:09.980 Biden into a mistake, I think it was strong. I think it was pretty strong. So I'm going to give him

00:22:16.080 an A plus for energy, power, dominance. And it's hard to know how much that counts, right? Because

00:22:25.180 there are lots of other things that happened. So you can't really analyze these things in

00:22:28.900 isolation. Everybody, of course, is going to be arguing about how he was so impolite and whatever.

00:22:35.660 But that's all baked in. I would argue that what we saw with Trump taking over the room,

00:22:43.300 you know, essentially just ignoring all the rules and, and having his way with it. I would argue

00:22:49.220 that's more of a feature than a bug, meaning that that's closer to the reason he got elected

00:22:56.160 than it is closer to a reason not to be elected. That, that power of personality is a big part of

00:23:04.380 his appeal. And I think he did that. He did that well, actually. Let's see, I would say that both

00:23:13.320 candidates lied about almost everything. I think it would be ridiculous to say that the president

00:23:20.920 was the liar that night. I would guess that 80% of what the president said was not true,

00:23:27.720 roughly speaking. And I think that 80% of what Biden said was objectively not true. He did the,

00:23:34.200 the bleach hoax. He did the, you know, the fine people hoax. He did the calling soldiers losers

00:23:42.120 hoax. I mean, mostly Biden was full of hoaxes. And by the way, what was, what was Trump's response to

00:23:49.980 the bleach hoax? He said he was being sarcastic. Even I don't believe that. You know, I'm inclined

00:23:59.640 to be favorable to the president's, you know, perspective on things. But even I don't believe

00:24:06.060 he was being sarcastic. What he was doing was talking about light technology because that was

00:24:10.780 the whole context. And, and that was a real thing. And it was really being tested. So he let that go

00:24:17.380 too. But again, you have to look at it in the context of his debate strategy, which is he doesn't go

00:24:24.020 after. He doesn't spend a lot of time defending, um, an accusation. Now, Biden had a really good

00:24:32.740 answer to something. So when he was, when, when Trump was pressing Biden about the $3.5 million

00:24:39.760 from the, uh, I guess the widowed ex-wife of the mayor of Moscow, that's one of those accusations

00:24:49.960 that's really damning. It's a really damning accusation. And the way Biden dealt with it,

00:24:56.800 I would have to say was really good. Now, I don't know if it's true. I don't know if what he said is

00:25:02.860 accurate, but in terms of a debate strategy, it was well done. And it went like this, uh, president

00:25:08.580 said, blah, blah, blah. You know, Hunter Biden took that $3.5 million from a Russian. And Biden's

00:25:15.140 response was, uh, that has been discredited. That's pretty good because as soon as he gets

00:25:21.880 into the weeds about it, he loses, right? So Biden can't get into the weeds. He can't ignore it.

00:25:28.140 That would be a bad mistake. So the, the fastest thing you could say about it to dismiss it

00:25:33.640 is probably good debate strategy in this concept. So simply being able to say it's disavowed. And I

00:25:40.120 don't know if that's true. Do you, I haven't seen any disavowing of it personally. I've not seen

00:25:45.800 even an attempt at disavowing it, but the fact that he said it, that's disavowed. I thought that's

00:25:53.400 not bad as, as a technique, probably not true that it's disavowed, but, uh, it's good technique.

00:26:00.580 Um, it seems that most of the, most of the chatter about last night is about Chris Wallace.

00:26:08.740 And I totally get what everybody says that it looks like Chris Wallace was being tougher on Trump.

00:26:15.900 Would you all agree? Can we all agree that it looked like Chris Wallace was being tougher on Trump?

00:26:22.840 Everybody's on the same page, right? It looked like that. Now, does that also imply

00:26:29.720 that because he was tougher on Trump, is it therefore true that he didn't do a good job?

00:26:36.840 Because that's where I might depart from your opinion. He was definitely tougher on Trump.

00:26:42.700 No question about it. And he's obviously not a big Trump supporter. That's pretty clear.

00:26:49.100 But it's also why he got the job. The reason that Chris Wallace was there and, and of the hundreds

00:26:56.340 of possible people who could have been the moderator, the reason he got picked is because

00:27:01.920 he can do that. He can go at the president and he can go at the other side. There aren't that many

00:27:08.460 people who can. So you're going to hate this, but I think he did a great job. Sorry. I know you hate

00:27:17.480 it. You hate it because he was, he was tougher on the president and he totally was,

00:27:21.620 but I'm okay with that. And here's why part of why he was tougher on the president is the president

00:27:28.640 was giving him more material to be tough on. The president was more interrupty and, uh, et cetera.

00:27:35.040 And so there was just more to, more to deal with, but there were other things about, you know,

00:27:40.080 some people saying he maybe helped Biden by describing Biden's own energy plan, et cetera.

00:27:45.640 I, here's my take. All of that other stuff that looked like he was a little pro Biden and a little

00:27:53.220 bit anti-Trump, all of that stuff should have been easy for Trump to dismiss. There was nothing that,

00:28:01.200 there was nothing that, uh, Chris Wallace added to the process. This should not have been just simple

00:28:10.460 for Trump to handle. The fact that Trump didn't handle it well and blew the, you know, he botched

00:28:17.420 the white supremacist question. The fact that he did that is not really Chris Wallace's fault.

00:28:22.960 That is a hundred percent on Trump. And to put that on Chris Wallace, unfair. Now I was trying to imagine

00:28:29.760 as I was watching Chris Wallace, you know, try to get control of these people who were uncontrollable,

00:28:35.180 mostly Trump. I thought to myself, I had a hard time imagining some other journalist. Is that

00:28:43.120 what you want to call them? A journalist or TV host, whatever. I had a hard time imagining anybody

00:28:48.020 else doing that better. Uh, because Chris Wallace does have a, uh, a forceful personality and he does

00:28:57.880 have credibility. He has gravitas. And I thought he did as good as a person could do under that

00:29:07.660 situation. I would give him a very high mark actually for that night. Cause I don't think

00:29:12.060 anybody could have done it better given the circumstance. Um, I know I'm disappointing you

00:29:18.820 today, but that's the way it goes sometimes. Uh, now one of the biggest things, which we don't know

00:29:25.680 how it'll play out yet is that Trump did get Biden to, uh, disavow the green new deal.

00:29:34.400 Somebody says, are you a liberal? Uh, I'm left of Bernie, but I typically support the president.

00:29:40.620 Um, so that might matter. Do you, do you think the green new deal people are happy with that?

00:29:48.360 Do you think they said to themselves, Hey, he, he disavowed us? Well, there's a, an extra detail

00:29:55.440 there. Apparently on the Biden website, it says, uh, that he appreciates the framework. There's an

00:30:04.760 actual word. Uh, his website says that the green new deal is quote, a crucial framework.

00:30:12.780 Now, when Joe Biden's website says the green new deal is a crucial framework, but then he goes on

00:30:20.520 to say, but my deal is not that it's the Biden deal. Is he being inconsistent? Is it a lie to have

00:30:29.220 on his website that the green new deal is a crucial framework, but at the same time he's saying I'm doing

00:30:37.380 something that's my own thing. It's not incompatible. It's not incompatible at all. In fact, it's what he's

00:30:44.620 been saying all along, which is, it's, it's sort of a good framework, but we're, you know, if you want

00:30:50.120 to stay practical and do things that can really be done, it looks more like a Biden plan. It's not

00:30:56.980 too far off, but will his own side see it that way? And that's the part that is a question. If, uh,

00:31:04.980 the AOCs and the Bernie supporters think that they've been thrown under the bus or sold a bill

00:31:10.800 of goods, they might stay home. So that might be the biggest thing that came out of this. It's

00:31:16.280 entirely possible that the only thing that changed is some green new dealers decided that they weren't

00:31:23.260 excited about him anymore. But that said, there's still probably like him better than Trump if they

00:31:30.820 were green new deal ish, because at least you get a little bit of, you know, the flavor of the

00:31:36.080 crucial framework of green new deal. That's better than none, right? So I suppose, uh, we'll have to

00:31:43.600 wait on that. All right. One of Biden's worst answers was when he was asked why he's not speaking out

00:31:51.900 about the violence in the streets. He said, quote, I don't hold public office. That's a really weak

00:31:58.560 answer. That is really weak. And, uh, neither, neither candidate disavowed violence last night.

00:32:08.620 Think about that. Think about the fact that Biden would not disavow Antifa acted like it didn't exist.

00:32:17.140 Trump was, you know, we already talked about that. It wasn't, uh, wasn't exactly, uh, anti-violence

00:32:24.720 himself. And these are the two, two guys running for president. And neither one of them could say

00:32:31.040 full-throatedly that all violence is bad. Neither of them could say full-throatedly that all forms of

00:32:39.700 racism are bad. They both wanted to pick their shots. Those are, they're completely unqualified

00:32:45.520 in my opinion. And that's, that's just about the most basic thing you got to get right is to be against

00:32:52.400 domestic violence. If you can't be against domestic violence in a full-throated, unambiguous way

00:33:00.440 that everybody can hear, you're not qualified to be president. So neither Biden nor Trump met that

00:33:08.240 standard last night. So you can't be too happy about that. Um, and then president Trump, uh,

00:33:15.120 he, he, he kind of went, who knows what he was talking about with the proud boys. So you all heard

00:33:22.920 it. I don't need to repeat it. When Chris Wallace was asking about denouncing, uh, racists and whatever.

00:33:28.880 And he said, give me some names. And then I don't know if, I don't know if Chris Wallace said proud

00:33:33.760 boys first or Trump did. I think Wallace did. And then he said, uh, then Trump leapt on the proud

00:33:40.120 boy question. And he said, they should stand back and stand by. Now, of course that's open for

00:33:46.740 interpretation. Stand back sounds good because that's, you know, don't be violent so far. So

00:33:53.320 good. But what does stand by mean? Stand by kind of suggests that maybe, uh, and he went on to say

00:34:00.960 that something, somebody has got to stop the violence. I feel as though he was giving them a green

00:34:06.740 light to mix it up with Antifa. That's what I, that's what I thought. Now, I'm not sure I have

00:34:14.940 a big problem with that, to be honest, because I have been saying for a while that if law enforcement

00:34:20.620 decides to not, not take part in ending violence, for whatever reason, they decide they don't want to

00:34:27.280 do that. You should expect citizens to come in and fill the gap. There's no other way that could go.

00:34:33.500 If the police won't stop violence, there will be some informal citizen thing that happens.

00:34:40.520 Something's going to happen. And I would say that if you get enough people who are willing to

00:34:45.760 stop the violence, even if it takes some violence to do it, we might be at a point where a little bit

00:34:52.640 of violence is, is called for. You know, I'm not going to say that, uh, um, it would be a great idea.

00:35:00.380 It's more like a prediction that it's just the way it's going to go. All right. Unless something

00:35:06.520 else happens, such as better law enforcement. All right. Um, let's see. Biden actually said that

00:35:16.600 Antifa is an idea, not an organization. That is disqualifying, right? Completely disqualifying

00:35:24.480 to say that Antifa isn't an organization. Uh, what can you say about that? Other than that,

00:35:30.940 it's just disqualifying. Um, Trump called the critical race theory training racist. I agree 0.99

00:35:40.120 with that characterization, but I don't think he did a good job, you know, given the time constraint

00:35:45.780 and the format of a, of a debate. It takes a little explaining why that's true. It is true,

00:35:51.920 but it takes a little explaining and a debate's the wrong place to do that. So I don't think he

00:35:56.840 nailed that. Uh, it would be great if he could come up with some shorter way to make that point

00:36:02.500 and just be able to, you know, drop that point and walk to his next point. So you probably do that

00:36:08.200 better in the next debate. Um, Biden, Biden said something that I thought was really good.

00:36:16.120 And it was this, when he was talking about whether he would accept the winner after the debate,

00:36:22.140 after the election, given that there would be some uncertainty about the quality of the vote,

00:36:28.320 Biden said this, quote, once the winner is declared after all the ballots are counted,

00:36:34.040 that will be the end of it. And if it's not me, I'll support the outcome. That's just about a

00:36:40.540 perfect statement right there. I don't know how, how practiced that was, but it's kind of perfect

00:36:48.200 because what he did was he took all the energy out of the question. You know, once the winner is

00:36:53.980 declared, that will be the end of it. That statement, that will be the end of it. That is,

00:37:00.620 that is such a good persuasion statement that it makes me think some kind of, you know, expert in

00:37:07.800 persuasion may have coached him on that a little bit, because that will be the end of it is a

00:37:13.760 deflating statement that works really well. It wasn't like, we're going to fight this to the end.

00:37:19.780 You know, we'll, we'll take every measure that we can, you know, it's going to be a battle, et cetera.

00:37:25.600 He just said the most American thing you could ever say. This is the most American statement

00:37:30.900 anybody's ever said. Once the winner is declared after the ballots are counted, that will be the end of it.

00:37:37.800 And I have to say that in that moment, I felt something like leadership from Biden. There was

00:37:48.480 something like leadership in that, because I thought to myself, yeah, that is it. Once the,

00:37:56.160 once the ballots are counted, now, of course, you know, there's going to be some controversy about

00:38:00.380 what does it mean to be counted and when are they counted and how accurate they are. But I like the,

00:38:06.700 I like the notion, I like the leadership notion that there will be an end, and that when we reach

00:38:13.320 the end, that's the end of it. There's something really good about that. When we get to the end, that's the

00:38:19.400 end of it. It's not going to go on forever. That's the end of it. I like that. It's very American.

00:38:26.240 And, you know, I know that Trump is keeping his options open, and that probably makes sense

00:38:33.000 strategically, but it was a good statement. Here's something from The Hill they tweeted today.

00:38:41.760 So The Hill tweeted, Biden and Trump differ greatly on integrity of mail-in ballots.

00:38:46.420 And they quote Joe Biden as saying, there is no evidence at all that mail-in ballots are a source

00:38:52.220 of being manipulated and cheating. And then they quote President Trump as saying, this is going to

00:38:58.340 be a fraud like you've never seen. So their characterization of those two statements is that

00:39:05.000 they're greatly different. There's a great difference on integrity of the election. Is that what you heard?

00:39:10.320 Because that's not what I hear. To me, I hear two sentences that are completely compatible.

00:39:16.980 Let me read them again. One, there is no evidence at all that mail-in ballots are a source of being

00:39:23.100 manipulated and cheating. That's true. It's true. We don't have evidence of the future.

00:39:34.040 Because we only have evidence of things which have happened in the past. And in the past,

00:39:39.400 have we ever done mass unsolicited mail-ins to states that have not practiced it and cleaned up

00:39:47.120 their database? No, no. So how could we have evidence of something that hasn't happened? Is it true

00:39:54.960 that in the past, it doesn't seem like it was a gigantic problem? There were individual problems

00:40:00.720 that we found. The Elon Omar thing with Minneapolis and Project Veritas. They did find that there was

00:40:11.940 definitely a problem in the past. But we don't know if that was widespread. So do you know? Do you know

00:40:19.940 if that would have changed the election? Do you know if it was widespread? Do you know if it was

00:40:24.240 happening everywhere? Would it be fair to say there is no evidence of this problem being widespread?

00:40:31.860 There is certainly evidence of individual problems. But is there any evidence that there were whole

00:40:36.480 elections changed in the past? Yeah, there might be a little evidence. But I would say that's a fairly

00:40:43.740 safe statement about the past. When Trump talks about the fraud of this election. Is he talking about

00:40:53.400 the past? He is not. One man is talking about the past and making a true statement that it hasn't been

00:41:01.100 a giant problem in the past. The future won't look like the past because we haven't done it this way

00:41:09.580 before. Nobody knows. If you've never done it this way and the stakes are sky high and you think Hitler

00:41:16.640 might get re-elected, do you think this is right for election mischief? Yes. Yes. Of course it is.

00:41:29.140 So every idiot who says that Biden and Trump disagree about the election integrity is just talking about 1.00

00:41:37.120 two different topics. The past, not too bad. The future, probably a giant clusterfuck. Those two ideas 1.00

00:41:47.020 are not in conflict. Let me put it another way. Would you say that the, could you say to the people on the

00:41:58.820 left, climate change is no risk in the future because the sea level hasn't drowned us in the past?

00:42:06.440 Same argument, right? The same argument. We didn't die in the past. So therefore, how could we die in the

00:42:16.200 future? It doesn't even make sense. Yeah, it does make sense. Because you know what? The past is different.

00:42:24.060 It's different. It's different. Things are different. So how about nobody ever died from

00:42:32.000 drinking coffee? So therefore, you should be able to snort as much fentanyl as you want without dying.

00:42:40.640 Logically, right? If nobody ever died from drinking coffee, doesn't it logically make sense that you

00:42:47.140 can't die from ingesting large quantities of poison? That's just common sense. No, they're different

00:42:55.500 situations. So this mail-in vote thing just bugs the crap out of me. All right.

00:43:07.580 Was Biden talking about defunding the police? He was a little weak on that. One of the things he was

00:43:14.320 super weak on is when Trump challenged Biden to name any law enforcement group that was backing him.

00:43:22.740 Now, I don't know if it's true that there are no law enforcement groups backing Biden. Is that actually

00:43:30.380 true? I don't know.

00:43:32.640 Well, somebody says you're losing my vote, Scott. So I know that, you know, I know that this doesn't

00:43:44.440 make you happy today, right? But I can't lie to you. What do you want me to do? Get up here and just

00:43:52.420 lie to you to make you happy? Can't do that.

00:43:56.380 Someone tells Scott he's embarrassing himself. Oh, you don't have to do that. I'll just block you and

00:44:06.280 then you don't have to worry about it. Goodbye.

00:44:13.740 Anybody else want to get blocked? I've got a feeling we'll be doing a lot of blocking today.

00:44:19.440 Ah, somebody says fentanyl is not caffeine. You're right. You're right. Fentanyl is not caffeine.

00:44:27.600 So it's almost as if you shouldn't compare those two. Same as solicited mail-in votes versus mass

00:44:37.200 untested, unclean databases, unsolicited votes. It's almost like they're different. That would be the

00:44:45.500 point. Yeah, it's a little disconcerting. All right. Now, I don't think that you would pay

00:44:58.780 attention to me if you knew that I was just going to back the president no matter what he did. I don't

00:45:06.520 think would you even find any value in this if you knew what I was going to say before I said it.

00:45:13.020 No, you wouldn't. Your true color. I'm going to block you for that. Whoever said your true 1.00

00:45:26.900 color. You're gone. All right. Anybody else want to make it personal? All right.

00:45:38.840 Um, I'm just looking at your, oh, the slaughter meter update. I'd say the slaughter meter is down

00:45:48.180 to 50%, 50, 50. At the moment, I would say it's a toss up. I think the president heard himself last

00:45:55.780 night. Uh, but Biden is so weak that, you know, anything could happen. Somebody says you seem very

00:46:04.960 emotional. Yeah, that's the way I feel that you would be accurate about that.

00:46:15.180 All right. Uh, looks like I got rid of all the, all the bad people. So, uh, thank you for staying

00:46:22.460 around. Oh, packing the court. Yeah. Biden refused to say he wouldn't pack the court. My feeling is

00:46:29.140 that probably doesn't make any difference. I don't think that court packing thing is going to be a big

00:46:34.720 variable. Uh, just because people don't know what to think about it. I think they just don't know

00:46:43.480 which way to go on that. Biden's laugh. Yeah. Did you see, uh, Biden's, uh, crazy smile?

00:46:54.340 That was pretty funny. Yeah. Biden's smile was hilarious. All right. Uh, people are saying run

00:47:01.040 for governor. I would be a terrible governor. You wouldn't want me as governor. I think I would be

00:47:06.880 better outside that realm. It would be a waste of my talents. Will there be more debates? Oh, you know,

00:47:17.220 if the, if the Biden campaign decided to cancel the other two debates and they said the reason they

00:47:24.480 were doing it is because Trump doesn't play fair and they just take their, their performance from this

00:47:30.720 one and say, you know, we're going to live or die on that first debate. That probably would be a

00:47:36.500 reasonable strategy because Trump's best hope is to have a good second and third debate, which by the

00:47:44.720 way, is not unexpected that the first debate, the incumbent does poorly. You've been hearing a lot

00:47:51.500 of reporting that says the incumbent tends to be a little sloppy on the first debate, but might improve

00:47:59.480 as we go. So, um, but I haven't seen them commit to that because, you know, they, they have to,

00:48:07.500 they probably need to feel it out a little bit. Here's what I'd expect. I would expect that the,

00:48:12.460 the Democrat helpers and the media will try to feel that out a little bit and try to see how the

00:48:18.380 public feels about it. Might even be some polls on it. We'll see. All right. That's all I got for now.

00:48:24.200 I'll talk to you tomorrow.

Real Coffee with Scott Adams - September 30, 2020

Episode 1140 Scott Adams： I Tell You Who Won the Debate and Why. And is Kim Jong-Un Alive？

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