Real Coffee with Scott Adams - October 02, 2020


Episode 1142 Scott Adams: I Think You Know the Topics This Morning


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

151.10152

Word Count

10,007

Sentence Count

643

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary


Transcript

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00:00:09.880 Hey everybody
00:00:14.120 Come on in
00:00:15.900 I overslept
00:00:19.100 Did anything happen in the last half of day?
00:00:21.820 Did I miss anything?
00:00:24.200 Oh, yeah
00:00:25.400 I think I did
00:00:26.320 I think I did miss something
00:00:28.200 We're going to be talking about that.
00:00:30.320 Come on in. Come on in.
00:00:32.460 You need to come in here for the best part of the day.
00:00:36.760 And this is the sort of day you really need to get up for the day.
00:00:42.040 You're going to have to dig a little bit deeper today.
00:00:45.020 But all you need to get going on the right foot is a cup or a mug or a glass of tank or chalice or stein, a canteen jug or flask of a vessel of any kind.
00:00:53.900 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:00:55.800 I like coffee.
00:00:58.900 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
00:01:05.940 And we hope that includes the coronavirus.
00:01:08.700 It's called the simultaneous sip.
00:01:10.720 And let's lift our glass to the good health of our First Lady and the President.
00:01:17.040 To all of you.
00:01:21.920 Ah.
00:01:24.120 Well, it's a busy news story.
00:01:26.300 So let me look through my notes and see what we want to talk about first.
00:01:30.920 There's the economy.
00:01:34.060 Don't really care about that today.
00:01:37.500 We could talk some more about the Biden debate.
00:01:40.900 We don't really care about the Biden debate.
00:01:45.580 How about the climate change is the most important.
00:01:48.260 It's by far the most important issue.
00:01:50.820 I don't give a shit about that.
00:01:55.020 There's a giant asteroid heading toward the Earth that will kill us all in about 16 hours.
00:02:02.360 But like I'm interested in that.
00:02:05.220 I'm not.
00:02:06.020 So, where do we start?
00:02:13.200 Where do we start?
00:02:14.980 You know, when I went to sleep last night, I told myself quite incorrectly that I might be one of the big stories in the morning.
00:02:25.480 I thought to myself, you know, I'm trending on Twitter yesterday afternoon.
00:02:33.500 I'm trending.
00:02:34.400 My name's trending.
00:02:35.320 Dilbert is trending.
00:02:37.140 And I thought to myself, there's articles about me and the Hill.
00:02:41.260 People are contacting me all over the place.
00:02:43.600 And I thought to myself, you know, I'm going to wake up and I'm going to be the big story in the morning.
00:02:51.920 Well, that didn't work out.
00:02:54.180 So, here's the big story about me.
00:02:59.060 All right.
00:02:59.580 Well, I'll talk about that in a moment.
00:03:01.180 But first, let's get to the good stuff.
00:03:06.040 The biggest story, of course, I mean, I don't think there's any doubt about what the big story is.
00:03:11.440 And that is that Gavin McGinnis has decided to sue Joe Biden and CNN for calling the Proud Boys white supremacists.
00:03:22.080 Was there anything else that happened?
00:03:24.680 Any other stories?
00:03:29.020 And, of course, it's just such a weird day.
00:03:35.500 I don't quite know what to do with this day.
00:03:38.040 So, I was going to talk about some other things, but there's nothing else to talk about.
00:03:43.140 There's just nothing else to talk about.
00:03:45.480 The news of the President and the First Lady having coronavirus just made everything else unimportant.
00:03:54.160 All at the same time.
00:03:55.880 It wasn't just me.
00:03:57.760 You know, of course, like everybody, I think the world revolves around me.
00:04:03.480 But nothing else feels important, does it?
00:04:08.060 Are you having the same feeling that just nothing else feels important?
00:04:11.600 It just took everything, everything else, and just put it in its own little perspective.
00:04:17.660 But let's talk about that.
00:04:21.100 Number one, what will this do to the President's empathy issue?
00:04:30.560 In other words, the people who think he's not showing enough empathy, will this change it?
00:04:36.120 In other words, when it happens to him, will people say, well, now you've got some empathy,
00:04:40.120 and suddenly their own biggest complaint about the President will be fixed.
00:04:45.760 Because that's the big complaint.
00:04:47.640 He doesn't understand how big it is or how big the risk is.
00:04:52.480 But I'll bet he does now.
00:04:54.340 Or at least people will imagine that it's changed his mind, even if it doesn't.
00:04:59.180 So, it's going to be really tough to predict the psychology of this.
00:05:05.400 The psychology is wildly unpredictable.
00:05:07.580 Let's just talk about where it could go.
00:05:10.860 Number one, did you see the video?
00:05:15.060 There's a little clip from the debate in which Joe Biden was trying to list three things.
00:05:21.260 And he skipped the second one.
00:05:22.680 He goes, number one, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:24.140 And then he goes, number two.
00:05:26.360 And then he goes, number three.
00:05:28.160 And he just skips whatever number two is and goes to number three.
00:05:31.200 And Trump was talking over him the whole time.
00:05:33.340 And Trump not only keeps his own train of thought,
00:05:37.580 but while he's thinking it, he realizes, while he's talking,
00:05:42.400 Trump realizes that Biden has skipped a number.
00:05:45.380 And in the middle of his sentence, he goes, you missed a number.
00:05:48.460 And he goes back to talking.
00:05:50.080 And I thought, that takes a lot of concentration.
00:05:53.280 He was literally doing two things at once.
00:05:55.100 He was listening, listening to math and talking in front of the public.
00:06:00.260 And he was actually tracking both of them at the same time.
00:06:03.100 It was kind of impressive.
00:06:03.960 And funny, too.
00:06:06.960 But that's not what I was getting at.
00:06:10.140 So you've got the empathy issue.
00:06:11.940 What will that happen?
00:06:13.540 Here's another part of the psychology.
00:06:16.900 I'll just hit all the little parts and see if we can put them together into anything.
00:06:21.380 Another part is that since Trump has been the one who's been saying,
00:06:26.400 maybe more than anybody, at least anybody prominent,
00:06:29.400 that we should take the risk of getting back to work.
00:06:34.220 So if you ask yourself, what was the message that Trump was telling the country?
00:06:40.160 What was the leadership message?
00:06:42.660 It probably was something along the lines of,
00:06:45.780 let's take the risk with this thing,
00:06:48.740 because getting everything working is more important
00:06:52.840 than some of these individual risks.
00:06:56.120 He walked the walk and he took the risk
00:07:01.080 and he actually contracted it.
00:07:04.480 So he modeled, you know, not intentionally, of course,
00:07:08.460 but he ended up exactly modeling the thing he said
00:07:12.340 was the condition we should be walking toward.
00:07:16.740 So he actually walked into the situation he was promoting,
00:07:21.760 not the situation he was avoiding.
00:07:23.880 So nobody can say you tried really hard not to get it,
00:07:29.580 you know, you did everything you could not to get it,
00:07:31.740 and blah, blah, blah, but bad luck, he got it anyway.
00:07:34.800 He designed this level of risk,
00:07:38.520 and then he walked into it,
00:07:40.560 and he had bad luck.
00:07:42.440 You know, he was one of the ones who got it.
00:07:44.940 At least I hope it was bad luck.
00:07:47.620 I hope there was nothing nefarious going on there.
00:07:50.680 And I feel as if there is some authenticity in that,
00:07:58.320 and I don't know which way that works for him.
00:08:00.640 I feel like it works a little bit in a positive way,
00:08:04.360 because he was consistent to his own description
00:08:10.400 of how we should handle this.
00:08:12.620 And he was consistent, meaning that he said
00:08:15.400 we should try to live our best life
00:08:17.060 while, you know, masking up when we can
00:08:19.340 and doing the things we can,
00:08:21.340 but not to hide from life.
00:08:25.800 And sure enough,
00:08:27.420 he modeled the very behavior
00:08:29.320 that he was promoting for the rest of the country,
00:08:31.860 good or bad.
00:08:32.640 I'm not saying that that's good or bad.
00:08:34.480 I'm not putting the judgment on it.
00:08:36.140 I'm just saying that he modeled
00:08:37.400 what he wanted for us.
00:08:39.480 So he did not hide from the risk
00:08:43.180 that he asked the public to take.
00:08:46.340 That's a big deal.
00:08:48.060 Imagine two different generals.
00:08:50.680 One rides into battle at the front of the charge
00:08:56.880 and is part of the battle and is in the battle.
00:08:59.760 The other general is back at headquarters
00:09:03.320 and phones it in and says,
00:09:05.520 I'll be getting a massage.
00:09:08.740 Why don't you attack the front lines
00:09:10.580 and let me know how it goes.
00:09:12.420 Which of those leaders is the bigger leader?
00:09:15.320 Is it the leader who does and models
00:09:17.480 exactly what he's asking of the troops,
00:09:21.180 in this case the country,
00:09:22.640 or is it the one who has a completely different existence,
00:09:26.980 one who hides from the virus
00:09:28.760 while telling you not to hide from the virus?
00:09:31.980 Now, you could argue whether he was trying hard enough
00:09:34.820 to stay away from the virus.
00:09:36.680 I don't think anybody would take the position
00:09:39.920 that he really quarantined himself
00:09:42.220 the way he could have.
00:09:43.400 As president, he could have had a...
00:09:45.420 The president could have had a total seal
00:09:48.700 on his contacts.
00:09:49.780 He could have.
00:09:50.700 He just chose not to.
00:09:52.360 And it was the same decision he thinks we should make.
00:09:54.440 Now, we have to ask the question,
00:10:01.080 unfortunately, it's just horrible
00:10:02.580 that it even has to come out of my mouth,
00:10:04.360 but you have to ask the question if he'll survive.
00:10:08.100 I haven't yet seen,
00:10:09.900 and I'm pretty sure I'll see it as soon as I'm done here,
00:10:12.520 an estimate for somebody in his specific situation,
00:10:16.300 you know, his age and his health.
00:10:18.100 What are the odds of his survival?
00:10:20.320 I think it's still 95%, right?
00:10:22.500 Doesn't he still have a 95% chance of survival or higher?
00:10:28.040 98%?
00:10:28.740 It's pretty high.
00:10:30.580 And you add that to probably early detection.
00:10:34.080 You add that to the best health care in the world.
00:10:37.840 You know, I think his odds are pretty good.
00:10:41.440 But here's the question you have to ask.
00:10:43.440 Was it an assassination attempt?
00:10:47.260 You have to ask that question.
00:10:49.420 Now, in all likelihood, it was not, right?
00:10:51.960 Because the virus is everywhere.
00:10:54.140 The most likely scenario is he got it the normal way.
00:10:58.220 But if you were trying to take out a leader of another country,
00:11:02.880 isn't the first thing you do is make sure that there was a lot of virus
00:11:07.160 among the people who would have contact with him?
00:11:10.760 I mean, isn't that the obvious thing you would do if you were a bad player?
00:11:14.180 Get a little virus, make sure that, you know,
00:11:16.800 the assistant to the staff, whatever, gets infected
00:11:20.220 until, you know, you get lucky
00:11:22.200 and somebody gets close enough to the president.
00:11:24.300 And so I don't know how they could possibly know that one way or the other,
00:11:29.600 but you can't rule that out
00:11:30.880 because it would be such an obvious, obvious play.
00:11:37.080 Then we have the question of whether Biden will get it or already has it.
00:11:41.240 Because I would think that the president probably already had contracted it
00:11:45.860 when he was at the debate.
00:11:49.160 He may have actually contracted it at the debate.
00:11:52.100 That's possible.
00:11:52.720 So he was probably at least in the general vicinity of Biden
00:11:57.240 when he was infected, you know, 20 feet away.
00:12:04.380 And what would that change?
00:12:05.780 What if they both get it?
00:12:07.040 I mean, these are completely impossible to sort out the psychology in advance
00:12:13.020 of how that would affect things.
00:12:14.720 But what will happen to Trump's,
00:12:18.620 what will happen to his campaign?
00:12:20.580 Because that's the end of his physical campaigning.
00:12:25.100 Will Trump get better credit for staying home because that's good behavior, I guess?
00:12:33.240 Or will he just lose his momentum because he's losing his energy?
00:12:38.720 Is Trump, without being Trump, still Trump?
00:12:43.120 In other words, if you take the high energy, which we know to be Trump,
00:12:47.480 and you take, you know, 40% off the energy because he's sick,
00:12:51.440 if it turns out he has symptoms, we don't know yet, you know.
00:12:55.040 But if it takes, let's say, 40% off his energy, can he even do a Zoom, right?
00:13:03.180 Can you even do a Zoom if you're at low energy?
00:13:07.220 Probably not.
00:13:07.860 It's entirely possible that Trump will just disappear from public view.
00:13:14.700 You know, it may be that, you know, if he's low energy,
00:13:18.500 I don't know if he wants us to see him.
00:13:20.840 If he even looks like he's sick,
00:13:23.760 is that going to help him or hurt him if you saw him on Zoom?
00:13:27.460 It might help him.
00:13:29.000 Again, these are totally imponderables at this point.
00:13:32.480 You know, we'll be able to look back in hindsight and say,
00:13:35.240 oh, that was the one variable that mattered.
00:13:37.460 But right now, it's a whole bunch of variables,
00:13:39.920 and they're all just swirling around.
00:13:42.800 And one of them is, imagine this.
00:13:45.060 Let's say, you know, he loses his energy or something,
00:13:49.040 which would be typical.
00:13:50.660 And he still does a Zoom because he still wants to get out there.
00:13:55.360 And you watch the Zoom, and everybody who watches it says,
00:13:59.380 he doesn't look well.
00:14:01.020 Well, he doesn't look well.
00:14:03.820 What would that do to your feelings about re-electing him?
00:14:08.240 Would you say, ah, I can't elect somebody
00:14:11.180 who's literally, you know, might not make it to election day,
00:14:15.980 you know, if it looked like that was the case.
00:14:18.360 Or would you say, finally, he looks human?
00:14:22.220 You know, there's something about this
00:14:23.900 which has become sort of the third act.
00:14:28.440 You know, it's the turning point.
00:14:29.820 It's the thing that changes him.
00:14:31.780 Might he be a different person after this?
00:14:35.100 Because that's possible.
00:14:36.840 This is the sort of event that could actually change him.
00:14:41.340 Not in every way, but it might change an opinion.
00:14:44.760 It might change a policy.
00:14:46.020 It might change his empathy.
00:14:47.160 It might change how people see him.
00:14:49.200 It could be big.
00:14:50.500 We don't know.
00:14:51.760 People are unpredictable.
00:14:53.300 Let's see.
00:14:56.100 The other things that we need to think about this
00:14:58.200 is if you were investing,
00:15:03.180 the most important thing you should do as an investor
00:15:06.040 is fill in the blank, diversify.
00:15:09.580 There's nothing more important if you're investing
00:15:12.060 than making sure that you spread your risk
00:15:14.360 across different stocks or different classes of investments.
00:15:17.380 But when we run two candidates for president,
00:15:21.560 just two,
00:15:23.440 that's not very well diversified, right?
00:15:26.140 So you need one of those two to work out
00:15:30.420 so you don't have any choice,
00:15:33.120 any chance of a good outcome.
00:15:35.580 But what we did
00:15:36.620 is we started with a senior citizen president
00:15:40.520 and we added one choice,
00:15:45.040 which is somebody who was even older.
00:15:47.900 It doesn't make any sense
00:15:49.900 that we run two elderly candidates for president.
00:15:55.100 That was maybe one of the dumbest things
00:15:57.500 that America has ever done
00:15:58.820 because if you run two elderly candidates for president
00:16:03.080 and by any measure,
00:16:05.920 Joe Biden looks like he's right on the margin
00:16:07.920 of even being functional,
00:16:09.340 you really just had one president as a spare
00:16:13.680 because you had sort of a shaky Biden
00:16:16.260 from the starting gate.
00:16:18.960 Your backup is President Trump.
00:16:21.200 If anything happened to him,
00:16:23.460 you don't have a healthy candidate.
00:16:25.920 You actually would not have a candidate for president
00:16:28.900 who is sufficiently healthy,
00:16:32.040 just healthy.
00:16:33.380 Forget about policy.
00:16:35.020 Forget about his record,
00:16:38.220 his background.
00:16:39.340 Forget about all that.
00:16:41.260 We intentionally,
00:16:42.660 meaning America,
00:16:43.780 we put ourselves in a position
00:16:45.220 where we had a very high risk
00:16:47.600 of this very thing.
00:16:50.200 This was the risk we knew
00:16:52.140 we were putting ourselves into.
00:16:54.600 Two elderly candidates,
00:16:56.640 maybe none of them would be up for the job
00:16:58.880 by election day.
00:17:00.120 There was a good chance of this.
00:17:01.840 You can't say,
00:17:02.740 you can certainly say you didn't see
00:17:05.400 the specific thing coming,
00:17:06.960 that it was coronavirus back in November of last year.
00:17:11.000 You probably didn't see this coming.
00:17:13.740 But was it impossible to see?
00:17:17.200 Could smart people have a forecast
00:17:19.820 that it was a bad idea
00:17:21.960 to have two elderly candidates
00:17:23.640 and one of them's already shaky?
00:17:25.380 We did this to ourselves.
00:17:29.980 This is absolutely
00:17:31.360 America kicking itself in the nuts
00:17:34.480 and knowing it.
00:17:36.120 It's like,
00:17:36.680 I think I'll kick myself really hard in the nuts.
00:17:39.560 Why are you doing that?
00:17:41.200 I don't know.
00:17:42.480 I don't know.
00:17:43.680 Seemed like the thing to do.
00:17:45.600 And then we kicked ourselves really hard in the nuts
00:17:47.840 and here we are.
00:17:49.240 So,
00:17:50.200 how's the stock market look?
00:17:52.360 Well,
00:17:53.400 not so good.
00:17:58.120 Yeah,
00:17:58.680 it looks like a lot of red.
00:18:00.700 Red,
00:18:01.260 red.
00:18:02.680 So,
00:18:04.060 does that tell you that the
00:18:05.640 system just doesn't like
00:18:08.200 risk and change
00:18:09.420 or does it tell you that they
00:18:10.760 think that
00:18:12.560 if President Trump
00:18:13.860 doesn't get re-elected
00:18:15.120 that the market will tank?
00:18:17.040 What's it telling you?
00:18:18.520 I think it's telling you
00:18:20.200 that there are a lot of shy
00:18:22.300 Trump investors,
00:18:23.640 if you know what I mean.
00:18:24.940 People who think
00:18:25.880 Trump is better for the market
00:18:27.360 even if they don't necessarily
00:18:29.020 want to vote for him.
00:18:30.320 They still think he might be
00:18:31.800 the better one for the economy.
00:18:33.540 The polls show that.
00:18:35.500 So,
00:18:36.100 the stock market
00:18:37.140 is
00:18:38.040 tapping the public on the shoulder
00:18:40.160 and saying,
00:18:41.460 I know you're talking about
00:18:43.980 the President's health
00:18:45.660 and the First Lady's health
00:18:46.780 and their health
00:18:48.040 is the most important thing.
00:18:49.940 But,
00:18:50.400 I just got to tap you
00:18:51.460 on the shoulder here
00:18:52.160 a little bit.
00:18:52.800 Just,
00:18:53.300 just don't forget about me.
00:18:55.240 You know,
00:18:55.540 the stock market over here,
00:18:57.360 where the stock market
00:18:58.200 doesn't exist
00:18:59.020 by itself.
00:19:00.820 The stock market
00:19:01.900 is a psychology engine.
00:19:03.660 And the spark plug
00:19:05.760 that runs the psychology engine,
00:19:08.160 the economy,
00:19:09.620 just got a hiccup.
00:19:12.020 And when your spark plug
00:19:13.860 looks like it's starting
00:19:15.040 to misfire,
00:19:16.420 the entire engine
00:19:17.380 of the economy
00:19:18.100 starts to sputter.
00:19:20.240 And,
00:19:21.000 just want to give you
00:19:21.900 a little tap on the shoulder.
00:19:23.360 We're just going to pull back
00:19:24.240 the,
00:19:24.540 just going to pull back
00:19:25.640 the Dow Jones a little bit.
00:19:26.880 Make sure you notice.
00:19:28.500 Because we don't want you
00:19:29.400 not to know
00:19:30.240 that,
00:19:31.880 hey,
00:19:32.820 you know,
00:19:33.220 we're watching.
00:19:37.540 Wow.
00:19:40.840 In the middle of this all,
00:19:42.880 the citizens
00:19:44.040 of the United States
00:19:45.100 decided to have
00:19:46.440 a separate competition
00:19:47.900 to see who could be
00:19:49.580 the worst human being
00:19:51.140 in the entire world.
00:19:53.280 Now,
00:19:53.580 if you go to Twitter,
00:19:54.460 you can see the competition
00:19:55.560 raging.
00:19:56.980 And,
00:19:57.800 the,
00:19:58.240 so far it seems to be
00:19:59.360 mostly just Democrats.
00:20:00.240 who have entered
00:20:00.840 the contest.
00:20:02.600 But,
00:20:03.280 look at some of the
00:20:04.360 comments
00:20:05.180 from the people
00:20:06.920 that you believed
00:20:07.960 were good people.
00:20:10.540 You know,
00:20:10.820 just good citizens.
00:20:12.620 Look at the things
00:20:13.520 that they say.
00:20:14.980 Now,
00:20:15.440 I'm not going to
00:20:16.240 excuse conservatives
00:20:17.640 for,
00:20:19.140 you know,
00:20:19.300 I'm not going to say
00:20:20.040 conservatives never
00:20:21.060 say horrible things
00:20:22.040 on social media.
00:20:23.140 That would not be true.
00:20:25.060 But,
00:20:25.800 at the moment,
00:20:26.720 this is mostly
00:20:27.460 coming from the left.
00:20:28.300 and it's truly
00:20:30.100 horrible.
00:20:31.360 It's truly
00:20:31.800 quite horrible.
00:20:33.240 And,
00:20:33.680 you're going to see
00:20:34.820 the worst of humanity
00:20:36.220 come out of this.
00:20:38.000 Just the worst.
00:20:39.280 I will tell you
00:20:39.880 my opinion
00:20:40.400 that when the
00:20:42.040 President,
00:20:42.720 when the President
00:20:43.600 of the United States,
00:20:44.980 no matter who it is,
00:20:46.840 gets a potentially
00:20:47.920 fatal disease,
00:20:49.880 I'm not a Republican
00:20:51.560 and I'm not a Democrat,
00:20:53.100 never was really,
00:20:53.980 but I suddenly
00:20:55.920 become not
00:20:56.800 a partisan anymore.
00:20:58.740 Certainly,
00:20:59.420 I was partisan.
00:21:00.860 But,
00:21:01.520 when your President
00:21:02.720 and your Commander
00:21:03.540 of Chief,
00:21:04.680 you know,
00:21:05.020 takes a bullet,
00:21:06.880 you don't really,
00:21:08.480 if your head
00:21:10.060 is on right,
00:21:11.700 that should
00:21:12.160 immediately collapse
00:21:13.300 your support.
00:21:14.640 And,
00:21:14.900 it should collapse
00:21:15.640 it into,
00:21:16.840 I mean,
00:21:17.720 we should be
00:21:18.320 on the same team
00:21:19.000 for a little while.
00:21:20.520 Because,
00:21:21.520 you can't lose
00:21:22.240 your President
00:21:22.840 even when you're
00:21:24.500 running for President.
00:21:25.660 You know,
00:21:25.900 even when there's
00:21:26.720 another one
00:21:27.140 that might be
00:21:27.600 coming on,
00:21:28.340 that could be
00:21:28.720 months before
00:21:29.460 things get sorted out.
00:21:31.700 Nobody wants to
00:21:32.640 lose the Commander
00:21:33.720 in Chief
00:21:34.240 now,
00:21:35.820 under any circumstance.
00:21:37.360 You might want him
00:21:38.240 not to win the election,
00:21:40.200 but,
00:21:40.740 this is,
00:21:41.360 this is the time
00:21:42.200 to,
00:21:42.640 to kind of
00:21:43.800 come together
00:21:45.720 if it can be done.
00:21:47.900 Now,
00:21:48.240 the President
00:21:48.700 has often
00:21:49.860 talked about
00:21:50.380 the coronavirus
00:21:50.880 as being,
00:21:51.780 as being a,
00:21:54.160 an enemy.
00:21:56.220 And,
00:21:56.840 it is a common
00:21:57.660 enemy now.
00:21:58.420 And,
00:21:58.660 it's not only
00:21:59.160 a common enemy,
00:22:00.180 but it's an enemy
00:22:01.040 that just
00:22:01.960 took a
00:22:02.860 big old
00:22:03.740 shot at
00:22:05.060 our Commander
00:22:05.640 in Chief.
00:22:07.120 And,
00:22:08.140 you know,
00:22:08.900 we'll see.
00:22:09.460 We'll see if this
00:22:10.120 makes a difference
00:22:10.880 in terms of
00:22:12.200 people,
00:22:12.500 how people
00:22:13.620 think about it.
00:22:14.220 I've noticed
00:22:18.440 that there's
00:22:19.100 a,
00:22:19.440 there's a
00:22:20.880 correlation
00:22:21.400 between
00:22:23.300 Democrats
00:22:24.200 and
00:22:24.960 Republicans,
00:22:26.000 or not a
00:22:26.500 correlation,
00:22:27.020 a distinction.
00:22:27.900 And it goes
00:22:28.360 like this.
00:22:28.760 And I want you
00:22:29.180 to see
00:22:29.580 if you've
00:22:30.900 noticed
00:22:31.180 this pattern.
00:22:34.140 Republicans,
00:22:34.900 for the most
00:22:35.960 part,
00:22:36.280 and this is
00:22:36.780 going to be
00:22:37.020 a gross
00:22:37.460 generalization,
00:22:38.420 right?
00:22:38.620 So I'm not
00:22:39.020 going to say
00:22:39.440 every Republican,
00:22:40.960 and I'm not
00:22:41.420 going to say
00:22:41.740 every Democrat.
00:22:42.440 Just in your
00:22:43.160 mind,
00:22:43.480 you should
00:22:43.700 always translate
00:22:44.380 that I never
00:22:45.100 mean every
00:22:45.520 single person.
00:22:47.560 Would it be
00:22:48.260 true,
00:22:49.160 the Republicans
00:22:49.780 tend to be
00:22:51.100 Christian,
00:22:52.640 or Christian,
00:22:54.520 let's say
00:22:55.660 Christian biased,
00:22:57.120 meaning that
00:22:57.880 they tend to be
00:22:58.740 influenced by
00:22:59.400 the Bible,
00:23:00.780 and by that,
00:23:01.600 you know,
00:23:02.000 that teaching,
00:23:02.780 even if they're
00:23:03.280 not actively
00:23:04.020 religious,
00:23:05.140 they probably
00:23:05.620 came from
00:23:06.060 that,
00:23:06.660 you know,
00:23:06.980 cultural thing.
00:23:08.420 And one of the
00:23:08.980 biggest elements
00:23:09.900 of Christianity
00:23:10.620 is forgiveness.
00:23:12.440 In fact,
00:23:13.100 there's almost
00:23:13.680 nothing more
00:23:15.000 central to
00:23:15.840 Christianity
00:23:16.820 than forgiveness,
00:23:18.000 right?
00:23:18.400 Second chance,
00:23:19.620 you know,
00:23:19.820 you can make up
00:23:20.380 for it in heaven.
00:23:21.480 It's all about
00:23:22.300 forgiving sins.
00:23:25.020 The Democrats,
00:23:26.360 on the other
00:23:27.140 hand,
00:23:28.360 tend to be
00:23:30.160 a little more
00:23:30.800 godless,
00:23:31.720 at least some
00:23:32.460 of the protesting
00:23:33.320 active ones
00:23:34.360 appear to be,
00:23:35.740 and they seem
00:23:37.560 to have a
00:23:38.120 philosophy that
00:23:38.960 is not
00:23:39.460 forgiveness,
00:23:41.000 it's hate.
00:23:42.440 And it's
00:23:43.040 hate based
00:23:43.720 on anything
00:23:44.340 you've ever
00:23:44.860 done.
00:23:45.620 But here's
00:23:46.060 the weird
00:23:46.400 part.
00:23:47.380 It's hate
00:23:47.800 based on
00:23:48.360 imagined sins.
00:23:50.500 So here's
00:23:51.300 the distinction.
00:23:52.920 Republicans
00:23:53.480 will,
00:23:55.000 by choice,
00:23:56.020 this is
00:23:56.620 actively
00:23:57.160 their philosophy,
00:23:58.680 they will
00:23:59.200 forgive you
00:23:59.960 for actual
00:24:01.240 real sins,
00:24:03.120 including,
00:24:03.980 you know,
00:24:04.240 you saw the
00:24:04.620 president do
00:24:05.240 that first
00:24:05.720 step act.
00:24:06.540 If you can
00:24:07.240 get your
00:24:07.600 life together
00:24:08.160 in prison,
00:24:09.460 you know,
00:24:09.820 learn something
00:24:10.700 and serve
00:24:12.500 some of
00:24:12.840 your time,
00:24:13.800 you are
00:24:14.280 forgiven.
00:24:15.080 You're
00:24:15.240 Alice Jones
00:24:16.660 and you're
00:24:17.860 forgiven,
00:24:18.380 you're
00:24:18.980 released.
00:24:20.300 And I
00:24:20.860 think Christians
00:24:21.480 actually mean
00:24:22.080 that.
00:24:22.600 I think that's
00:24:23.240 really baked
00:24:23.740 into them,
00:24:24.540 that, you
00:24:25.280 know,
00:24:25.740 you can do
00:24:26.440 some pretty
00:24:26.920 bad stuff,
00:24:28.620 but if you
00:24:29.000 are genuinely
00:24:31.540 forgiving and
00:24:32.920 you do
00:24:33.200 something with
00:24:33.700 your life,
00:24:34.140 you could be
00:24:34.580 forgiven.
00:24:37.160 It's the
00:24:37.780 opposite with
00:24:38.280 Democrats.
00:24:38.840 They actually
00:24:39.340 will imagine
00:24:40.360 something that
00:24:41.300 you did.
00:24:42.280 We imagine
00:24:43.120 that you're
00:24:43.640 racist.
00:24:44.280 We imagine
00:24:44.760 that you hate
00:24:45.280 us.
00:24:45.620 We imagine
00:24:46.100 that you're
00:24:47.000 guilty because
00:24:47.740 of something
00:24:48.500 your ancestors
00:24:49.280 did,
00:24:49.780 something like
00:24:50.140 that.
00:24:51.080 And you're
00:24:51.600 guilty forever
00:24:53.060 and the stain
00:24:54.500 can never be
00:24:55.240 washed off.
00:24:57.040 That's a big
00:24:57.640 difference,
00:24:58.100 isn't it?
00:24:58.860 Look for that
00:24:59.520 pattern.
00:25:01.180 Republicans
00:25:01.780 and Christians
00:25:03.440 being forgiving
00:25:04.340 of real sins,
00:25:06.060 Democrats being
00:25:06.920 permanently
00:25:07.700 condemning of
00:25:08.860 imaginary sins.
00:25:10.680 That's pretty
00:25:11.180 different.
00:25:12.720 Condemning
00:25:13.200 imaginary sins.
00:25:15.540 Somebody says
00:25:16.260 that Barron
00:25:16.720 tested negative.
00:25:17.780 Well, good.
00:25:18.700 Good for him.
00:25:20.380 But how would
00:25:21.340 you like to be
00:25:21.820 a mother and
00:25:22.320 you can't
00:25:23.180 touch your kid
00:25:24.600 for three weeks
00:25:26.160 or whatever it's
00:25:26.780 going to be?
00:25:27.220 That's pretty
00:25:27.620 tough.
00:25:29.200 I do wish
00:25:29.960 them well.
00:25:30.560 All right.
00:25:30.860 so let's
00:25:37.060 talk about
00:25:37.740 let's talk
00:25:40.800 about some
00:25:41.240 other stuff.
00:25:42.480 My favorite
00:25:43.360 part of the
00:25:44.560 story about
00:25:45.340 the president
00:25:45.940 not condemning
00:25:48.900 white supremacists
00:25:50.000 in the way that
00:25:50.780 people wanted him
00:25:51.520 to do it,
00:25:52.020 in the words
00:25:52.600 that they wanted
00:25:53.180 him to use,
00:25:54.100 was the
00:25:54.800 John Roberts
00:25:55.500 subplot.
00:25:57.780 Did you all
00:25:58.460 catch the
00:25:58.960 John Roberts
00:25:59.700 part of it?
00:26:00.860 So the part
00:26:01.580 you need to
00:26:01.920 know is that
00:26:02.560 John Roberts
00:26:04.020 who works for
00:26:04.680 Fox News,
00:26:05.960 he's married
00:26:06.740 to another
00:26:07.560 journalist,
00:26:08.620 Kyra Phillips
00:26:09.520 who is ABC,
00:26:11.180 I think works
00:26:11.760 for ABC News.
00:26:13.340 And so part
00:26:14.660 of the story
00:26:15.180 is that his
00:26:15.860 wife had asked
00:26:16.980 Trump about
00:26:17.720 the condemning
00:26:19.040 and hadn't
00:26:20.000 gotten quite
00:26:20.600 the crisp
00:26:21.740 exact answer
00:26:22.840 that people
00:26:23.300 were looking
00:26:23.740 for,
00:26:24.320 where he just
00:26:25.000 says it in
00:26:25.480 direct language.
00:26:27.000 So then
00:26:27.920 John Roberts
00:26:28.500 followed up
00:26:29.120 when it was
00:26:29.560 his turn
00:26:30.020 and he
00:26:31.000 asked the
00:26:31.360 same question
00:26:31.900 and he
00:26:32.620 also wasn't
00:26:33.580 getting from,
00:26:34.980 at least he
00:26:35.400 was talking
00:26:35.760 to Kayleigh
00:26:38.000 McEnany,
00:26:38.800 and he
00:26:39.640 wasn't getting
00:26:40.180 from her
00:26:40.840 the exact
00:26:42.420 language that
00:26:43.280 people wanted,
00:26:44.220 direct
00:26:44.800 condemnation.
00:26:46.500 and then
00:26:50.000 finally the
00:26:51.660 president went
00:26:52.340 on Hannity
00:26:54.240 and said
00:26:54.800 the words
00:26:55.220 exactly the
00:26:55.900 way people
00:26:56.300 wanted him
00:26:56.720 to say it.
00:26:57.480 So he
00:26:57.920 finally said
00:26:58.440 the words
00:26:58.800 exactly the
00:26:59.500 way they
00:27:00.220 should.
00:27:00.860 So then
00:27:01.240 John Roberts
00:27:02.340 tweeted that.
00:27:03.500 But the best
00:27:04.320 part of it
00:27:04.800 was how mad
00:27:05.740 he got
00:27:06.340 about the
00:27:07.520 whole situation
00:27:08.280 because I
00:27:11.180 feel as if
00:27:11.900 his professional
00:27:12.820 life and
00:27:13.920 his married
00:27:14.740 life sort
00:27:16.220 of intersected
00:27:17.120 a little bit
00:27:17.580 there and
00:27:18.420 there probably
00:27:18.960 were some
00:27:19.360 conversations at
00:27:20.240 home that
00:27:20.700 were part of
00:27:21.680 the story.
00:27:23.760 My net from
00:27:24.880 this is I
00:27:25.380 ended up liking
00:27:26.060 John Roberts
00:27:26.780 more and I
00:27:28.240 already liked
00:27:28.740 him before.
00:27:29.760 By the way,
00:27:30.260 full disclosure,
00:27:33.180 John Roberts
00:27:33.780 has been in
00:27:34.440 my home.
00:27:35.780 This was years
00:27:36.620 ago.
00:27:37.660 But when he
00:27:38.240 was working
00:27:38.580 for CBS,
00:27:39.320 I think he
00:27:39.860 interviewed me
00:27:40.620 at my home
00:27:41.880 in California.
00:27:44.240 So I spent
00:27:44.840 some time with
00:27:45.340 him.
00:27:45.580 He's a great
00:27:46.020 guy, like
00:27:46.760 terrific guy.
00:27:48.080 You know,
00:27:48.280 you spend time
00:27:48.820 with him,
00:27:49.240 you're going
00:27:49.620 to like him.
00:27:50.700 So watching
00:27:51.440 this gave me
00:27:53.280 a little more
00:27:54.160 extra pleasure
00:27:54.920 just because
00:27:55.360 I'd bet him.
00:27:56.540 So I love
00:27:56.960 that.
00:27:57.960 And the part
00:27:59.780 that made
00:28:00.320 news is when
00:28:01.080 he got angry
00:28:02.720 at, I guess,
00:28:03.960 the public,
00:28:04.660 really.
00:28:05.560 He got angry
00:28:06.400 at the public
00:28:07.100 and other
00:28:07.960 people giving
00:28:08.540 him crap for
00:28:09.480 simply asking
00:28:10.220 the question.
00:28:11.420 Now, did
00:28:11.720 John Roberts
00:28:12.420 go, let's
00:28:14.380 say, did he
00:28:15.840 cross some
00:28:16.460 kind of line
00:28:17.180 by pushing
00:28:18.220 the president
00:28:18.780 for a specific
00:28:19.680 answer?
00:28:20.500 I'd say no.
00:28:21.740 I think he
00:28:22.280 exactly did his
00:28:23.220 job, exactly
00:28:24.600 the way you'd
00:28:25.180 want him to.
00:28:26.060 You want him
00:28:26.600 to push for
00:28:27.100 that answer.
00:28:28.200 You know my
00:28:29.720 part of the
00:28:30.180 story.
00:28:30.520 I was feeling
00:28:31.140 the same thing.
00:28:32.140 So I think
00:28:32.540 he came out
00:28:33.200 but I like
00:28:34.600 the passion
00:28:35.480 he put into
00:28:36.100 it because
00:28:37.140 I think
00:28:37.520 his wife
00:28:39.960 was part
00:28:40.340 of the
00:28:40.540 story.
00:28:41.440 He became
00:28:41.920 part of
00:28:42.260 the story.
00:28:43.360 I just
00:28:43.940 love the
00:28:44.440 human,
00:28:46.080 the anger
00:28:47.380 that he
00:28:48.420 showed on
00:28:48.940 camera was
00:28:50.260 real and I
00:28:51.360 liked it.
00:28:52.440 So good
00:28:53.240 for you,
00:28:53.620 John Roberts.
00:28:54.100 all right.
00:28:57.780 So I guess
00:29:00.060 we have to
00:29:00.480 talk about
00:29:00.960 me, even
00:29:01.600 though it
00:29:01.900 seems as
00:29:02.780 unimportant as
00:29:03.540 anything could
00:29:04.140 be.
00:29:05.900 It seems
00:29:07.620 very unimportant
00:29:08.460 now.
00:29:09.440 I swear it was
00:29:10.340 the weirdest
00:29:10.660 thing.
00:29:11.160 So just in
00:29:12.120 case you don't
00:29:12.520 know the
00:29:12.820 story, after
00:29:14.900 the debate, I
00:29:16.900 was very
00:29:17.380 disappointed with
00:29:18.140 the president's
00:29:19.080 answer about
00:29:20.140 white supremacy.
00:29:20.960 I don't have
00:29:22.340 any doubt in
00:29:23.020 my mind that
00:29:23.920 he has
00:29:24.360 condemned it
00:29:25.040 many times in
00:29:25.800 the past.
00:29:26.780 I don't have
00:29:27.280 any doubt in
00:29:27.860 my mind that
00:29:28.520 he condemned
00:29:29.100 it that night
00:29:29.920 in weak
00:29:31.260 language, but
00:29:31.940 he certainly
00:29:32.320 condemned it.
00:29:32.960 It was
00:29:33.160 unambiguous, but
00:29:34.860 it was a
00:29:35.720 weak statement,
00:29:37.080 but it was
00:29:37.760 clear.
00:29:38.620 Clear but
00:29:39.300 weak.
00:29:40.460 And so I
00:29:41.260 don't have any
00:29:41.840 uncertainty about
00:29:44.040 what the
00:29:44.380 president thinks
00:29:45.300 or what he
00:29:46.200 would do in
00:29:46.660 the future.
00:29:48.720 But I
00:29:49.560 too, like
00:29:50.360 the rest of
00:29:50.780 the country
00:29:51.140 felt a little
00:29:51.840 bit, a
00:29:53.060 little bit
00:29:53.380 tweaked, like
00:29:54.520 a lot of
00:29:54.880 people, that
00:29:56.260 he couldn't
00:29:56.780 just say it
00:29:57.660 the way we
00:29:58.120 wanted him to
00:29:58.700 say it.
00:29:59.420 I will give
00:30:00.160 you a couple
00:30:00.920 of theories as
00:30:02.580 to why I
00:30:03.260 think he
00:30:04.520 doesn't answer
00:30:05.180 it the way
00:30:05.580 you wanted
00:30:06.020 him to answer
00:30:06.600 it.
00:30:07.260 Are you
00:30:07.480 ready?
00:30:08.600 Number one,
00:30:09.540 in persuasion,
00:30:11.060 and of course
00:30:11.660 what the
00:30:12.000 president is
00:30:12.560 doing all
00:30:13.040 the time is
00:30:13.540 persuading.
00:30:14.480 He's
00:30:14.900 negotiating, he's
00:30:16.120 persuading, he's
00:30:17.460 cajoling, he's
00:30:18.480 selling, all the
00:30:20.220 time, would
00:30:20.900 you agree
00:30:21.380 that that's
00:30:21.960 true?
00:30:22.660 That the
00:30:23.000 president is
00:30:23.760 always in
00:30:24.460 persuasion
00:30:25.120 mode, all
00:30:26.200 the time, that's
00:30:27.340 his job.
00:30:28.440 That's who he
00:30:29.140 is by
00:30:29.460 personality, but
00:30:31.200 on top of
00:30:31.740 that, that's
00:30:32.280 exactly his
00:30:32.940 job, he
00:30:33.500 should be
00:30:34.040 persuading all
00:30:34.940 the time.
00:30:36.340 Here's a
00:30:36.940 rule of
00:30:37.420 persuasion that
00:30:38.160 you might not
00:30:38.800 be aware of,
00:30:39.960 and one of
00:30:40.420 the reasons
00:30:40.780 that I say
00:30:41.300 you should
00:30:41.600 build your
00:30:42.080 talent stack
00:30:42.900 is so that
00:30:43.840 you can see
00:30:44.440 the world
00:30:44.820 through more
00:30:45.340 windows if
00:30:46.640 you have more
00:30:47.080 skills, it
00:30:47.920 just allows
00:30:48.380 you to see
00:30:49.400 the world a
00:30:49.920 little more
00:30:50.280 cleanly.
00:30:51.520 If you had
00:30:52.400 skill, let's
00:30:53.780 say you had
00:30:54.220 learned and
00:30:55.080 trained to be
00:30:56.320 a salesperson,
00:30:58.180 or trained in
00:30:59.700 psychology, trained
00:31:01.320 in persuasion, if
00:31:02.740 you had trained in
00:31:03.460 any of those
00:31:03.960 fields, here's
00:31:04.780 something you
00:31:05.260 would know that
00:31:06.440 other people
00:31:07.040 wouldn't necessarily
00:31:07.860 know, and it
00:31:09.380 goes like this.
00:31:10.640 If you are
00:31:11.440 trying to persuade
00:31:12.320 somebody, the
00:31:13.540 best thing you
00:31:14.240 can do, a
00:31:15.100 really good thing
00:31:15.760 to do, like
00:31:16.460 it's powerful, is
00:31:18.040 get them to do
00:31:18.820 something small
00:31:19.780 that primes them
00:31:21.560 to later do
00:31:22.360 something big,
00:31:23.140 which is the
00:31:23.640 real thing you
00:31:24.160 want.
00:31:25.320 So, if you're
00:31:27.060 in a negotiating
00:31:28.380 contest, or
00:31:29.600 you're trying to
00:31:32.080 be the alpha
00:31:32.900 in the room,
00:31:34.200 here's what you
00:31:34.880 never want to
00:31:35.780 do.
00:31:36.640 You never want
00:31:37.420 to do exactly
00:31:38.620 what somebody
00:31:39.740 else asked you
00:31:40.700 or is trying
00:31:41.760 to force you
00:31:42.380 to do.
00:31:43.080 If you give
00:31:44.060 a little bit,
00:31:45.760 on anything
00:31:46.540 at all, it
00:31:47.760 makes it easier
00:31:48.480 for them to
00:31:48.980 get more.
00:31:49.900 They'll
00:31:50.120 immediately
00:31:50.520 double down.
00:31:51.180 Ah, he
00:31:52.140 moved an
00:31:52.600 inch, he
00:31:53.440 moved an
00:31:53.940 inch.
00:31:54.620 Look, we
00:31:55.760 got him to
00:31:56.340 say the
00:31:56.700 words that
00:31:57.220 we told
00:31:57.680 him to
00:31:58.000 say.
00:31:58.520 Look, his
00:31:59.020 mouth is
00:31:59.480 moving, and
00:32:00.780 the words he's
00:32:01.520 using are
00:32:02.960 our words.
00:32:04.320 Look what we
00:32:04.920 did.
00:32:05.460 We turned
00:32:05.940 him into our
00:32:06.520 puppet in a
00:32:07.480 small way,
00:32:08.540 very small
00:32:09.140 way.
00:32:09.640 All we did
00:32:10.160 was get him
00:32:10.640 to say the
00:32:11.220 words exactly
00:32:12.680 the way we
00:32:13.280 wanted them to
00:32:13.920 be said.
00:32:14.460 If you
00:32:15.640 can get
00:32:16.080 somebody to
00:32:16.660 do something
00:32:17.300 small like
00:32:18.540 that, and
00:32:19.840 here's the
00:32:20.260 key, something
00:32:21.800 that looks
00:32:22.280 completely
00:32:22.940 reasonable.
00:32:24.740 Don't you
00:32:25.200 think it's
00:32:25.740 100% reasonable
00:32:26.900 to ask the
00:32:27.640 president of the
00:32:28.200 United States
00:32:28.780 to disavow
00:32:30.060 white supremacists?
00:32:31.980 Totally reasonable.
00:32:33.280 That's the most
00:32:33.860 reasonable, small
00:32:35.660 thing you could
00:32:36.260 ever ask for
00:32:36.880 somebody.
00:32:38.240 If you didn't
00:32:39.400 understand this
00:32:40.340 field, you
00:32:42.040 would say to
00:32:42.460 yourself, oh,
00:32:43.560 well, that's
00:32:43.940 very small,
00:32:45.060 it's very
00:32:45.560 reasonable, of
00:32:47.120 course I'm
00:32:47.560 going to do
00:32:47.900 it.
00:32:48.640 And then you
00:32:49.040 just do it.
00:32:49.980 And you
00:32:50.440 would have
00:32:50.700 given somebody
00:32:51.520 a little bit
00:32:52.120 of something,
00:32:52.860 and you
00:32:53.240 would have
00:32:53.520 lost ground.
00:32:55.700 You might
00:32:56.340 not feel it,
00:32:57.620 but it would
00:32:58.180 have been a
00:32:58.600 persuasion
00:32:59.160 mistake.
00:33:01.360 Now, in
00:33:02.220 my opinion,
00:33:03.500 there's one
00:33:04.180 exception to
00:33:05.220 this rule.
00:33:06.800 The one
00:33:07.500 exception where
00:33:08.760 you should just
00:33:09.420 do what you're
00:33:10.240 asked is this
00:33:11.860 one, this
00:33:12.960 exact situation.
00:33:14.800 If somebody
00:33:15.420 asks you as
00:33:16.360 president to
00:33:17.660 disavow white
00:33:18.540 supremacists, this
00:33:19.900 is the one
00:33:20.440 time I recommend
00:33:21.520 that you just
00:33:22.740 say, oh,
00:33:23.660 crap, I'm
00:33:24.920 going to have
00:33:25.260 to actually do
00:33:25.940 this exactly
00:33:27.140 the way they
00:33:27.720 want.
00:33:28.420 Of course, I
00:33:28.900 want to anyway.
00:33:29.860 It's not like I
00:33:30.660 resist the idea
00:33:31.760 of it.
00:33:32.360 I just don't
00:33:33.020 want to do what
00:33:33.900 you want me to
00:33:34.720 do.
00:33:35.280 So here's the
00:33:36.000 first thing I'm
00:33:36.780 going to try.
00:33:38.180 The first thing
00:33:39.140 I'm going to
00:33:39.540 try is to
00:33:41.020 say it my
00:33:41.560 way.
00:33:43.120 Right?
00:33:43.860 Because you're
00:33:44.440 going to try to
00:33:44.940 weasel the
00:33:45.480 situation.
00:33:46.280 You're going to
00:33:46.540 try to say,
00:33:47.100 okay, I'm
00:33:48.240 not going to
00:33:48.680 say it the
00:33:49.120 way you want
00:33:49.840 only because
00:33:50.560 you're the
00:33:51.000 one telling
00:33:51.400 me to do
00:33:51.840 it.
00:33:52.140 It has
00:33:52.520 nothing to
00:33:53.020 do with
00:33:53.340 the thing
00:33:54.520 you want
00:33:54.860 me to
00:33:55.080 say.
00:33:55.720 I'm not
00:33:56.320 editing or
00:33:57.100 judging the
00:33:58.160 content of
00:33:58.920 what you
00:33:59.200 want me to
00:33:59.580 say.
00:33:59.900 I'm only
00:34:00.260 judging that
00:34:00.800 you're telling
00:34:01.240 me to say
00:34:01.720 it.
00:34:02.380 And that
00:34:02.880 disqualifies it
00:34:04.400 from me being
00:34:05.240 able to say
00:34:05.640 it.
00:34:06.560 So instead,
00:34:07.320 I'm going to
00:34:07.840 try to sell
00:34:08.460 you my
00:34:09.180 version.
00:34:10.000 And it
00:34:10.200 goes like
00:34:10.640 this.
00:34:11.700 I oppose
00:34:12.400 all violent
00:34:13.540 groups, but
00:34:14.080 I think
00:34:14.320 most of it
00:34:14.780 comes from
00:34:15.180 the left,
00:34:16.640 which is
00:34:17.320 what he
00:34:17.580 did.
00:34:18.900 So he
00:34:19.560 tried to
00:34:20.140 avoid one
00:34:21.780 of the
00:34:22.020 biggest
00:34:22.440 mistakes you
00:34:25.120 could make
00:34:25.480 in persuasion,
00:34:26.260 which is
00:34:26.500 take somebody
00:34:27.040 else's frame
00:34:27.740 and just
00:34:28.540 be their
00:34:28.900 puppet,
00:34:29.360 even on a
00:34:29.840 small thing.
00:34:31.280 Now,
00:34:32.120 in my
00:34:33.120 opinion,
00:34:33.480 that was
00:34:34.860 an error
00:34:35.560 because he
00:34:37.360 still should
00:34:37.840 have just
00:34:38.160 done it
00:34:38.760 and he
00:34:40.160 should have
00:34:40.780 minimized it.
00:34:42.420 He could
00:34:43.060 have minimized
00:34:43.800 it away.
00:34:44.340 That's the
00:34:44.600 way I would
00:34:44.960 have played
00:34:45.200 it.
00:34:45.400 I would
00:34:45.580 have said,
00:34:46.320 obviously,
00:34:46.980 of course,
00:34:47.320 everybody condemns
00:34:48.060 white supremacy,
00:34:48.880 so do I,
00:34:49.560 and then go
00:34:50.080 right into
00:34:50.660 Antifa.
00:34:51.920 Just give
00:34:53.020 it a clear,
00:34:55.140 distinct
00:34:55.600 statement,
00:34:56.480 but really
00:34:57.060 small.
00:34:57.880 Just compress
00:34:58.560 it down
00:34:58.900 and say,
00:34:59.700 everybody,
00:35:00.620 including me,
00:35:01.680 disavows
00:35:02.180 white supremacy,
00:35:03.480 but let's
00:35:03.760 talk about
00:35:04.180 Antifa,
00:35:05.200 and then just
00:35:05.720 do a whole
00:35:06.120 big Antifa
00:35:06.780 thing.
00:35:07.960 That's how I
00:35:08.640 would have
00:35:08.840 played it.
00:35:09.200 So it was
00:35:09.520 a mistake,
00:35:10.640 but in my
00:35:11.320 opinion,
00:35:11.980 it had to
00:35:12.560 do with
00:35:13.020 not wanting
00:35:13.520 to be
00:35:14.000 pushed,
00:35:15.100 and that
00:35:15.460 was the
00:35:15.980 right instinct,
00:35:16.960 just maybe
00:35:17.340 the wrong
00:35:17.680 time for
00:35:18.140 it.
00:35:20.620 The other
00:35:21.540 possibility,
00:35:22.420 which I
00:35:22.720 mentioned before,
00:35:23.620 but I'll
00:35:23.840 just put it
00:35:24.260 here for
00:35:24.660 completeness,
00:35:25.820 is that
00:35:26.240 anybody who's
00:35:26.860 trained in
00:35:27.520 media,
00:35:28.560 stuff,
00:35:29.500 and that
00:35:29.740 would include
00:35:30.240 me.
00:35:31.140 So I
00:35:31.540 actually had
00:35:32.160 an actual
00:35:32.880 expert sit
00:35:33.900 with me for
00:35:34.540 half a day
00:35:35.140 and train
00:35:36.160 me how to
00:35:36.860 handle media
00:35:37.660 situations.
00:35:38.900 You think
00:35:39.400 it's easy?
00:35:40.360 It's not.
00:35:41.580 Here's what
00:35:42.100 you have to
00:35:42.580 do if you're
00:35:43.660 being interviewed
00:35:44.360 by the media.
00:35:45.580 You need to
00:35:46.260 listen to the
00:35:46.960 question,
00:35:48.200 often while the
00:35:49.380 camera is running,
00:35:50.280 so there's extra
00:35:50.880 pressure,
00:35:51.720 so you're
00:35:52.000 listening for
00:35:52.480 the question,
00:35:53.560 you're formulating
00:35:54.400 your answer to
00:35:55.080 the question,
00:35:55.980 but then there's
00:35:56.560 another layer on
00:35:57.580 top of that,
00:35:58.180 and here's
00:35:58.800 the trouble
00:35:59.240 part.
00:36:00.160 The extra
00:36:00.840 layer is,
00:36:01.560 you have to
00:36:01.960 say to
00:36:02.220 yourself,
00:36:02.820 how could
00:36:03.560 they misconstrue
00:36:04.720 this answer?
00:36:06.020 What are all
00:36:06.660 the ways this
00:36:07.440 could be taken
00:36:08.080 out of context?
00:36:09.740 And so here's
00:36:10.500 one of the
00:36:10.980 things that you
00:36:11.520 would not want
00:36:12.160 to do if you've
00:36:13.140 been trained in
00:36:14.020 media stuff.
00:36:15.000 You would not
00:36:15.720 want to start a
00:36:16.620 statement where
00:36:18.040 the first part of
00:36:19.100 it could be
00:36:19.720 misleading if taken
00:36:20.860 out of context,
00:36:22.000 and then add the
00:36:23.180 clarification at the
00:36:24.320 end.
00:36:24.600 that's a trap.
00:36:26.660 Do you know
00:36:27.040 why?
00:36:28.140 You've seen it
00:36:28.860 a hundred times.
00:36:30.200 The news will
00:36:31.160 simply clip off the
00:36:32.420 second part of your
00:36:33.180 statement, as they
00:36:34.620 did, with the
00:36:35.840 fine people hoax.
00:36:37.440 And then sometimes
00:36:38.240 they'll clip off the
00:36:39.280 front part of the
00:36:39.980 statement, as they
00:36:41.360 did, with the
00:36:43.440 injecting bleach.
00:36:45.420 Because if they cut
00:36:46.480 off the part about
00:36:47.120 he was talking about
00:36:47.880 light as a
00:36:48.680 disinfectant, and
00:36:49.980 then they cut off
00:36:50.560 the end of it,
00:36:51.780 where he went back
00:36:52.620 to make sure
00:36:53.180 that you knew
00:36:53.620 he was talking
00:36:54.080 about light.
00:36:55.260 So, you have to
00:36:56.700 think in terms of
00:36:57.560 an answer, while
00:36:58.880 you're on camera,
00:37:00.180 while the question
00:37:01.060 is being asked,
00:37:01.980 maybe a complicated
00:37:02.840 question, you're
00:37:04.040 thinking about your
00:37:04.700 answer, and then
00:37:05.700 you're thinking of
00:37:06.320 the structure of
00:37:07.100 the answer, so it
00:37:08.200 can't be dissembled.
00:37:10.440 It's not freaking
00:37:11.680 easy.
00:37:13.740 There's a reason
00:37:14.760 that there are not
00:37:16.200 many President
00:37:16.960 Trumps.
00:37:18.180 You see how
00:37:18.980 good he is on
00:37:19.900 camera, usually.
00:37:20.780 It's rare.
00:37:23.260 It's really hard
00:37:24.040 to do that stuff,
00:37:25.280 because there's
00:37:25.780 just way too
00:37:27.060 much thinking
00:37:27.640 going on.
00:37:28.500 Now, have I
00:37:28.940 made this mistake
00:37:29.740 before?
00:37:30.200 Yes, I have.
00:37:31.120 Let me give you
00:37:31.660 an example of
00:37:33.020 how to answer
00:37:33.700 a question about
00:37:35.580 your parents.
00:37:37.840 Let's say you're
00:37:38.440 a famous person,
00:37:39.380 you're me, and
00:37:40.380 the interviewer
00:37:41.180 says on camera,
00:37:42.600 Scott, what
00:37:44.000 about your
00:37:45.300 mom and dad?
00:37:46.300 Tell me about,
00:37:47.680 tell me what
00:37:48.200 they were like.
00:37:49.260 my parents
00:37:51.400 are both
00:37:51.780 deceased, but
00:37:52.920 imagine they're
00:37:53.500 both alive, and
00:37:55.160 they ask me on
00:37:55.900 camera, tell me
00:37:56.540 about your
00:37:57.580 parents.
00:37:58.560 Here is the
00:37:59.480 wrong answer.
00:38:01.100 Anything.
00:38:02.180 Everything you
00:38:02.820 say about your
00:38:03.580 own parents will
00:38:04.860 be taken out of
00:38:05.660 context, and
00:38:06.740 will be used
00:38:07.360 against you, and
00:38:08.420 your parents are
00:38:09.060 going to pick up
00:38:10.040 a newspaper, and
00:38:10.760 they're going to
00:38:11.080 say, he said
00:38:13.760 that about his
00:38:14.520 parents, it will
00:38:15.580 be out of
00:38:16.180 context, and it
00:38:17.940 will look terrible.
00:38:19.340 So here's how
00:38:20.020 you answer the
00:38:20.680 question about
00:38:21.520 your parents, as
00:38:22.840 I have, actually, a
00:38:24.460 number of times, but
00:38:25.760 not until I did it
00:38:26.520 the wrong way
00:38:27.060 first.
00:38:27.940 I had to learn
00:38:28.720 this the hard
00:38:29.180 way.
00:38:29.800 Scott, can you
00:38:30.440 tell us about
00:38:30.860 your parents?
00:38:32.260 It was very
00:38:32.820 average.
00:38:34.440 It was just a
00:38:35.020 normal, totally
00:38:36.440 normal situation.
00:38:37.640 Well, can you
00:38:38.020 tell us more?
00:38:39.260 Can you give us
00:38:39.820 some detail?
00:38:41.220 So yeah, my
00:38:41.860 father worked for
00:38:43.140 the post office.
00:38:43.860 Yeah, and my, you
00:38:47.880 know, it was a
00:38:48.740 very normal
00:38:49.200 upbringing, and
00:38:50.040 very average.
00:38:51.120 Everything was
00:38:51.640 completely average
00:38:52.540 and normal, and
00:38:54.200 we loved each
00:38:54.780 other.
00:38:56.120 That's the only
00:38:57.080 way to answer
00:38:57.740 that question.
00:38:59.060 Everything else
00:39:00.020 you say about it
00:39:00.940 can be misconstrued
00:39:02.540 into an insult to
00:39:03.540 your parents, and
00:39:04.540 if you think that's
00:39:05.320 not real, that it
00:39:06.740 wouldn't turn into
00:39:07.400 an insult to your
00:39:08.240 parents, you
00:39:09.140 haven't taken media
00:39:10.300 training, and you
00:39:11.080 haven't done this for
00:39:11.900 a living, as I
00:39:12.720 have, you can't
00:39:14.080 say anything about
00:39:15.280 a topic that
00:39:16.480 could be taken
00:39:17.240 out of context.
00:39:18.940 So, when the
00:39:19.960 president was asked
00:39:20.820 first by Jake
00:39:21.680 Tapper in the
00:39:22.560 first election to
00:39:24.940 disavow the KKK,
00:39:26.940 and he paused, and
00:39:28.380 he asked for
00:39:28.920 clarification, what
00:39:30.660 was actually going
00:39:31.740 on in his mind?
00:39:33.460 We don't know.
00:39:34.480 We can't read
00:39:35.220 minds.
00:39:35.980 That's crazy.
00:39:37.040 I can't read his
00:39:37.740 mind, but I'll
00:39:38.880 tell you that with
00:39:39.640 similar training and
00:39:40.900 experience of
00:39:41.780 being interviewed,
00:39:42.680 if I had received
00:39:43.920 that question, I
00:39:45.300 would be thinking
00:39:45.920 ahead, what are
00:39:47.140 they going to do
00:39:47.640 with it, and I
00:39:48.840 would have thought
00:39:49.400 this, what are
00:39:51.280 they going to ask
00:39:51.840 me after this?
00:39:53.520 That's the media
00:39:54.900 training.
00:39:55.840 The media training
00:39:56.580 would say, where
00:39:57.360 is this going?
00:39:58.640 It's not a question
00:39:59.740 about the question.
00:40:01.380 The question is,
00:40:02.240 where is this
00:40:02.560 going?
00:40:03.480 And here's where
00:40:04.100 it would go.
00:40:04.740 Do you disavow
00:40:06.140 the KKK?
00:40:07.080 Absolutely.
00:40:08.320 Easy question.
00:40:09.380 Disavow the KKK.
00:40:10.280 Do you disavow
00:40:11.660 David Duke?
00:40:12.700 Easy question.
00:40:14.220 Yup.
00:40:15.100 Disavow them.
00:40:16.260 Do you disavow
00:40:17.060 white supremacists?
00:40:18.540 Yes.
00:40:19.600 Yes, of course I
00:40:20.500 do.
00:40:21.060 Disavow them.
00:40:22.100 Do you disavow
00:40:22.800 the Proud Boys?
00:40:25.760 I'm not sure
00:40:26.660 exactly what they
00:40:27.440 do.
00:40:30.180 Are they, are
00:40:31.960 they, what are
00:40:34.180 they?
00:40:34.420 are the Proud
00:40:36.000 Boys white
00:40:37.100 supremacists?
00:40:38.560 Because they're
00:40:39.460 being accused of
00:40:40.300 that.
00:40:41.520 And Gavin
00:40:42.380 McGinnis is, you
00:40:44.240 know, one of the
00:40:44.620 founders, is suing
00:40:45.900 CNN and others
00:40:48.520 for saying that.
00:40:49.520 Joe Biden, I guess,
00:40:50.520 for saying that.
00:40:51.680 And they have a
00:40:53.040 multi-ethnic
00:40:54.280 membership.
00:40:56.400 That's right.
00:40:57.440 They have a
00:40:57.960 multi-ethnic
00:40:58.820 membership.
00:41:00.440 One of their
00:41:01.100 leaders is a
00:41:02.300 black Cuban or
00:41:03.500 something.
00:41:04.480 And, you know,
00:41:05.360 you've seen the
00:41:05.800 pictures.
00:41:06.500 They have
00:41:06.820 African-American
00:41:07.560 members.
00:41:09.300 But they have
00:41:10.900 been accused of
00:41:13.400 being white
00:41:13.840 supremacists.
00:41:15.180 So now you're
00:41:15.900 the president.
00:41:17.380 What do you
00:41:17.800 do?
00:41:18.900 Do you disavow
00:41:20.040 them just to be
00:41:22.860 clean, just to
00:41:24.500 make sure it
00:41:25.580 doesn't affect
00:41:26.180 you?
00:41:26.800 Because if you
00:41:27.620 do, there are
00:41:28.320 going to be a
00:41:28.640 whole lot of
00:41:29.040 people who say,
00:41:30.160 wait a minute,
00:41:31.680 I think you just
00:41:32.440 disavowed
00:41:33.280 law-abiding
00:41:35.500 Americans.
00:41:37.200 I think that's a
00:41:38.160 little too far.
00:41:39.700 Look at the
00:41:40.320 comments.
00:41:40.900 Some people are
00:41:41.540 saying that they
00:41:42.240 are best described
00:41:43.280 as patriots.
00:41:45.060 Now, I'm not
00:41:46.220 going to give you
00:41:46.780 an opinion of
00:41:47.760 what I think the
00:41:48.680 Proud Boys are,
00:41:49.900 because I don't
00:41:50.700 think they're one
00:41:51.300 thing.
00:41:52.200 I think it's a
00:41:52.920 bunch of people
00:41:53.480 who have some
00:41:54.060 things in common,
00:41:55.020 like they want to
00:41:55.960 be part of this
00:41:56.660 group.
00:41:57.580 They like America.
00:41:58.940 They have that in
00:41:59.800 common.
00:42:00.380 They seem to be
00:42:01.060 chauvinistic.
00:42:01.700 They seem to
00:42:02.460 be sort of
00:42:03.460 male-dominated
00:42:04.880 kind of thinking.
00:42:07.040 Now, you could
00:42:08.020 condemn them maybe
00:42:08.880 for some of those
00:42:09.660 other things,
00:42:11.180 but here's my
00:42:12.380 point.
00:42:13.600 The moment the
00:42:14.660 president starts
00:42:15.520 condemning, the
00:42:16.780 easy ones come
00:42:17.740 first, but it
00:42:19.260 guarantees that he's
00:42:20.620 going to go down
00:42:21.220 the line until he
00:42:22.640 gets to something
00:42:23.320 like this.
00:42:24.580 Do you condemn
00:42:25.340 Breitbart?
00:42:27.580 Right?
00:42:28.100 Because, in my
00:42:30.200 opinion, Breitbart
00:42:30.960 has nothing to
00:42:31.760 apologize for.
00:42:33.100 At least, I've
00:42:33.640 never seen anything
00:42:34.300 that was over the
00:42:34.980 line.
00:42:35.900 But other people
00:42:36.940 think so.
00:42:38.080 If other people
00:42:39.200 believe or are
00:42:40.640 willing to accuse
00:42:41.600 some entity of
00:42:43.860 being whatever,
00:42:45.740 does the president
00:42:46.460 have to disavow
00:42:47.820 everybody until he's
00:42:48.840 disavowed his
00:42:49.560 entire base?
00:42:50.920 So that's the
00:42:51.940 trap.
00:42:52.540 And you saw the
00:42:53.100 president in the
00:42:53.920 debate do exactly
00:42:55.340 the same thing he
00:42:56.280 did with the
00:42:57.720 Jake Tapper
00:42:58.300 KKK thing.
00:42:59.680 He paused.
00:43:00.900 You could tell
00:43:01.400 there was a
00:43:01.900 thought process
00:43:02.580 going on.
00:43:04.040 Probably that
00:43:04.820 thought process is
00:43:05.780 where does this
00:43:06.380 go?
00:43:07.040 I think he was
00:43:07.820 thinking as many
00:43:09.120 chess moves in
00:43:10.020 advance as he
00:43:10.840 could, and
00:43:11.700 like, am I going
00:43:12.360 to get myself in
00:43:13.060 a trap here?
00:43:14.120 Because if
00:43:14.980 possible, I would
00:43:16.340 like to not
00:43:16.880 disavow anybody
00:43:17.900 who would vote
00:43:18.440 for me.
00:43:19.180 Just period.
00:43:20.360 I'd prefer not
00:43:21.360 to disavow anybody
00:43:22.560 if they could vote
00:43:23.760 for me.
00:43:24.480 So I think that's
00:43:25.540 all that went
00:43:25.920 on.
00:43:26.280 Now, what is
00:43:28.800 my level of
00:43:29.600 certainty that
00:43:31.020 the real problem
00:43:31.840 was that?
00:43:33.960 He was just
00:43:34.440 thinking about
00:43:34.980 his best answer.
00:43:36.500 The answer is
00:43:37.000 there's no way
00:43:37.540 to know what
00:43:37.960 anybody's thinking.
00:43:39.400 I'm just saying
00:43:40.160 that if your
00:43:40.900 interpretation was
00:43:42.700 that the only
00:43:43.700 explanation is
00:43:45.260 that he was
00:43:45.820 winking to
00:43:46.780 racists while
00:43:48.520 running for
00:43:49.100 president, I
00:43:50.460 think that's
00:43:51.100 crazy.
00:43:52.800 In my opinion,
00:43:54.580 the least likely
00:43:56.020 explanation of
00:43:57.040 what was going
00:43:57.600 on is that
00:43:58.720 he was thinking
00:43:59.280 to himself,
00:44:00.540 how can I
00:44:01.620 pretend to
00:44:03.420 sort of
00:44:03.900 disavow them
00:44:04.720 while winking
00:44:05.840 at the same
00:44:06.440 time?
00:44:07.580 I think that
00:44:08.380 is the
00:44:09.140 dumbest
00:44:09.740 interpretation
00:44:10.620 because it
00:44:12.140 sort of assumes
00:44:12.840 a low-functioning
00:44:14.160 person as
00:44:14.920 president, right?
00:44:16.080 He's not
00:44:16.920 low-functioning.
00:44:18.080 That would just
00:44:18.860 be a dumb
00:44:19.560 strategy.
00:44:20.180 And I
00:44:21.320 don't think
00:44:21.900 there's evidence
00:44:22.840 that he
00:44:23.180 would do
00:44:23.480 something that
00:44:24.200 dumb.
00:44:24.740 That's pretty
00:44:25.160 dumb.
00:44:28.320 Somebody says
00:44:29.120 Proud Boys is
00:44:29.920 an idea.
00:44:31.860 Yeah, Joe
00:44:32.380 Biden said that
00:44:33.060 Antifa is an
00:44:33.940 idea and not
00:44:35.360 an organization.
00:44:36.520 That's pretty
00:44:37.220 funny.
00:44:37.760 Yeah, the Proud
00:44:38.200 Boys, it's just
00:44:38.780 a concept.
00:44:40.140 It's not even an
00:44:40.960 organization.
00:44:42.820 It's not an
00:44:43.360 organization.
00:44:43.920 It's just an
00:44:44.460 idea.
00:44:45.760 See if anybody
00:44:46.380 buys that.
00:44:46.960 All right, so
00:44:48.920 that said, I
00:44:50.880 was so
00:44:51.200 disappointed with
00:44:51.860 the president's
00:44:52.580 answer, the
00:44:55.860 inadequacy of
00:44:56.800 it during the
00:44:57.380 debate, that
00:44:58.800 I said that I
00:45:00.100 would withdraw
00:45:00.700 my vote for
00:45:02.220 the president.
00:45:03.120 Now, here's
00:45:03.680 the funny part.
00:45:05.180 If you've been
00:45:05.900 watching me for
00:45:06.560 a while, I
00:45:07.740 think the people
00:45:08.260 who have been
00:45:08.540 watching me the
00:45:09.100 longest were
00:45:09.700 probably on to
00:45:11.600 this early.
00:45:13.260 My vote for
00:45:14.740 president doesn't
00:45:16.240 have any
00:45:16.880 functional value
00:45:17.940 because I live
00:45:19.040 in California.
00:45:19.980 There isn't any
00:45:21.020 reasonable chance
00:45:22.060 that my vote in
00:45:23.580 California will
00:45:24.440 make any
00:45:25.020 difference to the
00:45:25.720 presidency.
00:45:26.700 So if I say I
00:45:27.780 am voting for
00:45:28.580 him or I'm
00:45:29.320 not, it
00:45:30.360 doesn't have a
00:45:31.080 functional purpose
00:45:32.040 as in getting
00:45:33.700 elected or not.
00:45:35.060 It only has a
00:45:35.980 symbolic importance.
00:45:38.000 And if something
00:45:38.480 is only symbolic,
00:45:40.600 you can move it
00:45:41.440 around and you
00:45:42.180 can do whatever
00:45:42.700 you want to
00:45:43.720 make a point
00:45:44.280 with it.
00:45:45.080 So when I say
00:45:45.820 I'm voting for
00:45:46.860 or not voting
00:45:47.580 for the
00:45:48.240 president from
00:45:49.160 the perspective
00:45:49.860 of a Californian
00:45:50.740 is purely
00:45:51.940 symbolic.
00:45:53.500 Now, what
00:45:54.480 happened when
00:45:55.500 I said that I
00:45:56.240 would not vote
00:45:57.100 for the
00:45:57.400 president?
00:45:58.560 Was I aware
00:45:59.760 that that might
00:46:01.100 get some
00:46:01.580 attention?
00:46:03.700 Yes, I
00:46:04.340 was.
00:46:05.480 Not my
00:46:06.080 first rodeo.
00:46:07.820 It's not the
00:46:09.340 first time.
00:46:11.360 It's not the
00:46:12.320 first time I've
00:46:13.180 dealt with the
00:46:13.880 media.
00:46:14.600 So of course I
00:46:15.480 knew that if I
00:46:16.560 did a dog
00:46:18.520 bites man
00:46:19.200 story, that it
00:46:20.500 would be a
00:46:21.780 big deal.
00:46:22.740 Sure enough,
00:46:24.080 within a day,
00:46:25.720 I'm trending
00:46:26.380 on Twitter.
00:46:27.640 So the two of
00:46:28.740 the top trending
00:46:29.680 terms yesterday
00:46:30.560 were my name
00:46:32.160 and Dilbert
00:46:33.160 separately at the
00:46:34.040 same time.
00:46:35.340 I think Max
00:46:36.120 Boot might have
00:46:37.060 been the first
00:46:37.580 one to tweet
00:46:38.440 my video where I
00:46:39.480 was saying I
00:46:39.900 wasn't going to
00:46:40.340 vote for the
00:46:40.940 president and
00:46:42.360 that got it
00:46:44.080 into the left
00:46:44.900 hemisphere,
00:46:46.380 new silo,
00:46:47.500 and then what
00:46:48.400 happened?
00:46:51.100 Then what
00:46:51.660 happened?
00:46:53.120 Now, so the
00:46:54.480 first question you
00:46:55.140 ask yourself is,
00:46:56.340 did I know
00:46:57.220 that it would
00:46:58.260 cause a
00:46:59.080 minor flurry
00:47:01.800 of attention?
00:47:04.140 Yes, of
00:47:04.820 course.
00:47:05.640 The basic
00:47:06.680 rule is that if
00:47:07.640 you act against
00:47:08.880 type and you're
00:47:10.400 a public figure
00:47:11.220 of any kind
00:47:11.780 and you do
00:47:12.600 something that
00:47:13.200 people don't
00:47:13.760 expect you to
00:47:14.480 do, that's
00:47:15.620 news.
00:47:16.540 So when I said
00:47:17.400 I wasn't going
00:47:17.920 to vote for
00:47:18.340 the president,
00:47:19.360 the only reason
00:47:20.420 I said that is
00:47:21.660 for the effect,
00:47:23.080 right?
00:47:24.260 Because it would
00:47:25.080 be this provocative
00:47:26.580 if it gets your
00:47:27.180 attention.
00:47:28.080 Now, I did want
00:47:29.400 to get the
00:47:29.760 attention of both
00:47:30.640 the left and
00:47:31.940 the right,
00:47:32.420 which is very
00:47:32.880 hard.
00:47:33.480 It's really easy
00:47:34.200 to get the
00:47:34.640 attention of the
00:47:35.360 right if you're
00:47:36.300 in the right
00:47:36.760 and the left
00:47:37.980 if you're in
00:47:38.480 the left.
00:47:38.860 What it's
00:47:39.820 hard to do
00:47:40.480 is if you're
00:47:41.740 associated with
00:47:42.740 the right,
00:47:43.660 as I am,
00:47:44.860 it's hard to
00:47:45.680 get any
00:47:46.100 attention on
00:47:47.520 the left,
00:47:48.860 unless you
00:47:50.500 do something
00:47:51.120 that looks
00:47:51.580 like a giant
00:47:52.940 news story,
00:47:54.300 at which point
00:47:55.340 all the
00:47:55.940 attention from
00:47:56.600 the left
00:47:57.060 comes pouring
00:47:58.340 in.
00:47:59.320 Now, what I
00:47:59.880 didn't fully
00:48:00.600 anticipate is
00:48:01.700 how ugly it
00:48:02.460 would be.
00:48:03.440 Now, I assume
00:48:04.220 that when you
00:48:04.740 get attention
00:48:05.280 from the left,
00:48:06.300 a lot of it
00:48:06.880 is going to
00:48:07.180 be trolls.
00:48:07.680 A lot of
00:48:08.420 it's going
00:48:08.700 to be
00:48:08.940 insults,
00:48:09.600 et cetera.
00:48:10.700 But I
00:48:11.940 think I
00:48:12.320 opened some
00:48:12.960 kind of
00:48:13.340 portal to
00:48:14.040 hell, and
00:48:15.580 every Democrat
00:48:17.160 demon came
00:48:17.940 streaming through
00:48:18.860 to crap on
00:48:20.240 my head, and
00:48:22.080 I thought to
00:48:22.760 myself, wait
00:48:23.480 a minute,
00:48:23.720 wait a minute,
00:48:24.680 they're crapping
00:48:25.740 on me while
00:48:27.240 I'm agreeing
00:48:28.260 with their
00:48:28.860 point of not
00:48:29.900 voting for the
00:48:30.520 president.
00:48:31.700 Do you see
00:48:32.520 how important
00:48:33.060 that is?
00:48:34.260 Instead of
00:48:35.140 forgiving me,
00:48:36.780 instead of
00:48:37.360 saying, thank
00:48:38.460 goodness, we're
00:48:39.780 glad that you
00:48:40.500 have come to
00:48:41.120 your senses, and
00:48:42.320 while you don't
00:48:42.920 agree with us on
00:48:43.740 everything, we do
00:48:44.960 love the fact that
00:48:46.060 you said in public
00:48:46.920 that you would not
00:48:47.880 vote for the
00:48:48.360 president, and for
00:48:49.300 this reason, because
00:48:50.660 this reason is one
00:48:51.600 that we consider
00:48:52.260 important, the
00:48:52.960 whole disavowing
00:48:54.320 racism thing.
00:48:56.480 And so, what
00:48:57.480 should have been
00:48:58.580 the right response?
00:49:02.000 Well, as I've
00:49:03.440 taught you, if you
00:49:04.180 would like to
00:49:04.640 encourage something
00:49:05.560 to happen, you
00:49:06.880 should reward
00:49:07.560 it.
00:49:08.260 If you would
00:49:08.740 like to
00:49:09.180 discourage
00:49:09.940 something from
00:49:10.500 happening in the
00:49:11.540 future, you
00:49:12.500 should penalize
00:49:13.340 it.
00:49:14.080 That always
00:49:14.700 works.
00:49:15.860 What happened
00:49:16.520 when I gave
00:49:17.180 the left
00:49:17.680 exactly what
00:49:18.720 they should
00:49:20.000 have wanted,
00:49:20.940 which is a
00:49:21.680 staunch Trump
00:49:23.300 supporter
00:49:23.960 switching to
00:49:25.520 say that I
00:49:26.080 would not vote
00:49:26.800 for him, and
00:49:28.120 here's the best
00:49:28.820 part, the
00:49:29.860 reason I gave
00:49:30.980 is their top
00:49:32.420 reason, their
00:49:33.800 top reason, their
00:49:35.480 number one
00:49:36.280 reason that they
00:49:37.520 would want me to
00:49:38.340 change my vote, I
00:49:40.000 expressed clearly,
00:49:42.140 emotionally, and
00:49:43.100 honestly, completely
00:49:44.440 honestly, and then I
00:49:46.460 said I would give
00:49:47.080 them what they
00:49:47.540 wanted.
00:49:48.500 What was their
00:49:49.300 response?
00:49:51.140 They shit on me
00:49:52.580 in buckets.
00:49:55.260 What was my
00:49:57.980 response to
00:50:00.140 giving them
00:50:00.800 everything they
00:50:01.440 wanted, and
00:50:02.840 then having them
00:50:03.600 shit on me in
00:50:05.520 gigantic quantities?
00:50:08.740 Well, if you
00:50:09.580 saw my pinned
00:50:10.480 tweet, you know
00:50:11.780 the answer to
00:50:12.400 that.
00:50:13.720 They switched me
00:50:14.580 back to vote for
00:50:15.340 Trump.
00:50:16.300 Because the
00:50:17.260 number one reason
00:50:18.100 for voting for
00:50:18.920 Trump is to
00:50:20.740 not let those
00:50:21.520 people have
00:50:22.640 power.
00:50:23.660 They have
00:50:24.420 demonstrated
00:50:25.040 by penalizing
00:50:27.080 me for doing
00:50:27.800 the right
00:50:28.280 thing that
00:50:29.420 they can't
00:50:29.900 hold power.
00:50:31.340 You can't
00:50:32.280 let power
00:50:33.180 be held by
00:50:34.160 people who
00:50:34.800 will penalize
00:50:35.800 the stuff
00:50:36.720 they want.
00:50:38.340 And the
00:50:38.560 reason they
00:50:38.940 would penalize
00:50:39.500 me is because
00:50:40.200 of past
00:50:41.020 crimes.
00:50:41.980 In other
00:50:42.260 words, past
00:50:43.880 crimes meaning
00:50:44.520 supporting the
00:50:45.140 president.
00:50:45.980 In other
00:50:46.400 words, no
00:50:47.640 forgiveness.
00:50:49.420 What did I
00:50:50.260 tell you is the
00:50:50.820 difference between
00:50:51.500 Republicans and
00:50:52.680 Democrats?
00:50:53.220 if I had
00:50:55.600 gone from a
00:50:56.720 Democrat to
00:50:58.060 a Republican,
00:51:00.600 right?
00:51:01.600 You're ahead
00:51:02.340 of me, right?
00:51:02.780 I don't even
00:51:03.160 have to finish
00:51:03.900 the sentence,
00:51:05.640 but I will
00:51:06.480 anyway, in case
00:51:07.100 there's anybody
00:51:07.500 who needs it.
00:51:08.780 If I had
00:51:09.700 gone from
00:51:10.300 staunch
00:51:10.860 Democrat to
00:51:12.660 saying,
00:51:13.340 forget it,
00:51:14.720 Biden has
00:51:15.380 lost me,
00:51:16.000 I'm going to
00:51:16.340 vote for
00:51:16.720 Trump, what
00:51:17.560 would Trump
00:51:18.140 supporters do?
00:51:19.380 how would
00:51:20.780 they treat
00:51:21.340 me?
00:51:22.420 You know
00:51:22.940 the answer.
00:51:24.300 You know
00:51:24.760 the answer.
00:51:27.260 The way you
00:51:28.120 would treat
00:51:28.500 me is like
00:51:30.260 a friend.
00:51:31.740 The way you
00:51:32.460 would treat
00:51:32.800 me is like
00:51:33.280 a guest.
00:51:34.880 The way you
00:51:35.620 would treat
00:51:35.940 me is like
00:51:36.680 special.
00:51:38.820 You would
00:51:39.400 have actually
00:51:39.880 rewarded me
00:51:40.960 for doing
00:51:42.120 what you
00:51:42.660 thought was
00:51:43.940 the right
00:51:44.280 thing.
00:51:45.560 Wouldn't
00:51:46.000 you?
00:51:46.180 In the
00:51:48.240 comments,
00:51:49.100 look at the
00:51:49.400 comments,
00:51:50.020 you can see
00:51:50.420 it.
00:51:51.220 As a
00:51:51.880 philosophy,
00:51:53.540 Republicans
00:51:54.100 understand
00:51:55.480 human
00:51:56.020 motivation.
00:51:58.140 Democrats
00:51:58.660 don't.
00:51:59.480 It's very
00:51:59.820 consistent.
00:52:01.000 What is
00:52:01.520 socialism?
00:52:02.860 Socialism
00:52:03.500 is a whole
00:52:04.500 bunch of
00:52:04.900 people who
00:52:05.340 don't
00:52:05.600 understand
00:52:06.120 how human
00:52:06.780 motivation
00:52:07.320 works,
00:52:08.280 and don't
00:52:08.580 understand
00:52:09.020 systems and
00:52:09.980 economies,
00:52:10.900 and how to
00:52:11.660 build something
00:52:12.260 that could
00:52:12.640 last.
00:52:14.140 Republicans,
00:52:15.220 like free
00:52:15.820 markets,
00:52:16.580 which are
00:52:17.160 cruel,
00:52:18.860 but it
00:52:19.880 understands
00:52:20.460 human
00:52:20.820 motivation,
00:52:21.900 it understands
00:52:22.640 people,
00:52:23.520 it allows
00:52:24.020 that they
00:52:24.420 are flawed,
00:52:25.480 but it's
00:52:25.840 just the
00:52:26.200 best we
00:52:26.580 can do
00:52:26.900 with our
00:52:27.280 flawed
00:52:27.580 selves.
00:52:28.680 So when
00:52:29.320 you see
00:52:29.600 this pattern,
00:52:30.280 it's hard
00:52:30.560 to unsee
00:52:31.120 it.
00:52:31.900 And so
00:52:32.260 I'll say
00:52:32.700 again that
00:52:33.380 the Democrats
00:52:34.900 within one
00:52:36.420 day forced
00:52:37.740 me back
00:52:38.680 to be a
00:52:39.480 Trump supporter
00:52:40.120 because I
00:52:41.020 can't be on
00:52:41.760 the team
00:52:42.240 that penalizes
00:52:43.800 good behavior.
00:52:45.820 they just
00:52:46.440 don't
00:52:46.700 understand
00:52:47.160 how anything
00:52:47.740 works.
00:52:49.060 Anything.
00:52:50.020 I want to
00:52:50.580 be on the
00:52:50.920 team where
00:52:51.960 I can
00:52:52.360 totally F
00:52:53.580 up, and
00:52:55.080 if I say,
00:52:56.160 damn it,
00:52:56.620 I really, I
00:52:57.360 messed that
00:52:57.860 up, here's
00:52:59.180 what I'm
00:52:59.480 going to do
00:52:59.900 to fix it.
00:53:01.520 I want to
00:53:02.200 be on the
00:53:02.500 team that
00:53:02.840 says, yeah,
00:53:03.780 you did
00:53:04.140 F up.
00:53:04.980 We're not
00:53:05.340 going to take
00:53:06.600 that away.
00:53:07.140 That's history.
00:53:08.040 That's just
00:53:08.560 a fact, but
00:53:09.940 I do appreciate
00:53:10.580 the fact that
00:53:11.960 you made
00:53:12.320 good.
00:53:13.400 I'm okay
00:53:13.960 with you.
00:53:15.300 That's
00:53:15.740 Republicans,
00:53:16.840 and there's
00:53:17.900 only one of
00:53:18.380 those two
00:53:18.740 countries I
00:53:19.240 want to live
00:53:19.640 in, and
00:53:20.460 it's not
00:53:20.800 the one
00:53:21.100 where I
00:53:21.420 get punished
00:53:22.020 for doing
00:53:22.600 the right
00:53:23.180 stuff.
00:53:24.180 Now, how
00:53:25.700 much did I
00:53:26.360 anticipate that
00:53:27.420 this would
00:53:27.780 happen?
00:53:29.020 Well, I
00:53:29.760 could see it
00:53:30.280 coming from
00:53:30.780 a mile away.
00:53:32.180 Now, I
00:53:32.540 didn't know
00:53:32.840 exactly what
00:53:33.740 form it would
00:53:34.320 take, but
00:53:35.700 I did assume
00:53:36.820 that bringing
00:53:38.040 this attention
00:53:38.740 to myself
00:53:39.420 would do
00:53:40.640 one of two
00:53:41.480 things.
00:53:42.720 Well, let me
00:53:43.220 put it this
00:53:43.640 way, instead
00:53:44.200 of saying
00:53:44.500 one of two
00:53:44.920 things.
00:53:47.040 As I've
00:53:47.700 taught you,
00:53:48.280 the number
00:53:48.640 one thing
00:53:50.580 you have to
00:53:50.960 do with
00:53:51.640 persuasion
00:53:52.440 is get
00:53:52.940 attention.
00:53:53.900 Until you
00:53:54.460 get people's
00:53:55.060 attention, it
00:53:56.320 doesn't matter
00:53:56.900 what persuasion
00:53:57.740 technique you
00:53:58.420 have, what
00:53:59.000 your message
00:53:59.460 is, nobody's
00:54:00.700 watching.
00:54:01.620 So the
00:54:02.220 big part is
00:54:03.500 getting the
00:54:03.960 attention of
00:54:04.640 the left.
00:54:05.560 Why did I
00:54:06.200 want to do
00:54:06.840 that?
00:54:07.620 Why did I
00:54:08.240 intentionally say
00:54:09.760 something provocative
00:54:10.680 like, Trump
00:54:11.700 lost my vote?
00:54:12.480 Why did I
00:54:13.800 want to do
00:54:14.220 that on this
00:54:15.220 topic of
00:54:16.500 the not
00:54:17.240 disavowing the
00:54:17.940 white supremacist?
00:54:18.940 The reason I
00:54:19.820 wanted to do
00:54:20.320 it is that I
00:54:21.440 have discovered,
00:54:22.440 as you have,
00:54:23.860 that people on
00:54:24.520 the right see
00:54:25.420 the whole news
00:54:26.420 and the people
00:54:27.000 on the left
00:54:27.420 see only half
00:54:28.120 of it.
00:54:28.980 Because if you're
00:54:29.560 on the right,
00:54:30.420 you can't
00:54:31.720 avoid seeing
00:54:33.380 the mainstream
00:54:33.940 news.
00:54:34.520 It's just too
00:54:35.020 prevalent.
00:54:36.080 But if you're
00:54:36.540 on the left,
00:54:37.080 you can easily
00:54:37.780 avoid watching
00:54:39.300 Fox News or
00:54:40.320 reading Breitbart
00:54:41.040 or something
00:54:41.900 that would
00:54:42.200 be right
00:54:44.160 leaning.
00:54:45.940 So what I
00:54:46.680 wanted to do
00:54:47.180 was open a
00:54:48.040 channel so
00:54:49.600 that the left
00:54:50.340 would pay
00:54:50.920 attention to
00:54:51.540 me in a way
00:54:52.220 that they
00:54:52.560 normally would
00:54:53.220 not.
00:54:54.340 If I could
00:54:54.980 get them to
00:54:55.480 pay attention
00:54:55.960 to me,
00:54:56.780 they would
00:54:57.220 be open
00:54:57.940 to my
00:54:58.460 persuasion
00:54:59.080 for the
00:54:59.860 first time.
00:55:01.160 And once
00:55:01.860 they're open
00:55:02.220 to my
00:55:02.540 persuasion,
00:55:03.280 they would
00:55:03.680 have at
00:55:04.060 least the
00:55:04.380 opportunity
00:55:04.840 to see
00:55:05.420 the compilation
00:55:06.860 clips of
00:55:07.740 the president
00:55:08.280 clearly and
00:55:10.100 consistently
00:55:10.680 disavowing
00:55:11.500 white supremacists
00:55:12.520 and neo-Nazis
00:55:13.420 a number of
00:55:14.560 times throughout
00:55:15.740 his presidency,
00:55:16.880 throughout his
00:55:17.360 candidacy,
00:55:18.220 and throughout
00:55:18.540 his life.
00:55:20.640 I've never
00:55:21.460 met any
00:55:22.080 Democrat who
00:55:22.900 had ever
00:55:23.240 seen that
00:55:23.980 video unless
00:55:25.000 I showed
00:55:25.480 it to him.
00:55:26.420 Would you
00:55:26.760 agree?
00:55:27.560 You've never
00:55:28.160 met a
00:55:28.820 Democrat who's
00:55:29.620 ever seen
00:55:30.240 that compilation
00:55:31.000 video, but
00:55:31.620 I'll bet
00:55:31.880 almost every
00:55:33.440 one of you
00:55:33.820 has seen
00:55:34.140 it.
00:55:34.840 I'll bet
00:55:35.260 just about
00:55:35.780 every one
00:55:36.220 of you
00:55:36.540 has seen
00:55:37.480 all the
00:55:38.100 times he's
00:55:38.720 disavowed
00:55:39.260 it in
00:55:40.080 clean,
00:55:40.840 complete,
00:55:42.540 exact language
00:55:43.720 just like
00:55:44.760 you'd want to
00:55:45.260 hear it from
00:55:45.780 a president.
00:55:46.840 He just
00:55:47.560 didn't want
00:55:47.940 to get
00:55:48.160 pushed during
00:55:48.940 the debate.
00:55:49.640 That's what
00:55:49.960 it looks like
00:55:50.420 to me.
00:55:51.400 So I did
00:55:52.180 assume that
00:55:53.060 he would
00:55:53.480 eventually say
00:55:54.580 a clean and
00:55:55.800 complete statement
00:55:57.160 and it would
00:55:57.900 allow me to
00:55:59.360 vote for him.
00:56:02.860 So I knew
00:56:03.280 it was coming,
00:56:04.020 but I didn't
00:56:04.400 think it would
00:56:04.800 happen as
00:56:05.200 quickly as
00:56:05.720 it did with
00:56:06.780 the bile and
00:56:08.120 evil and
00:56:09.080 horribleness of
00:56:10.380 the left.
00:56:11.200 They actually
00:56:11.900 convinced me a
00:56:12.960 lot faster.
00:56:14.380 I would have
00:56:14.940 waited probably
00:56:15.500 for the
00:56:17.140 president's
00:56:17.680 statement that
00:56:18.200 he finally
00:56:18.560 made on
00:56:19.380 Hannity, I
00:56:20.340 guess.
00:56:21.520 So here's
00:56:22.480 his exact
00:56:23.260 statement on
00:56:23.840 Hannity.
00:56:24.460 And by the
00:56:24.820 way, doing
00:56:25.220 it on Hannity
00:56:25.860 was exactly
00:56:26.680 the right
00:56:27.100 place to
00:56:27.500 do it.
00:56:28.540 If the
00:56:29.200 president could
00:56:30.600 pick one
00:56:31.320 place to
00:56:32.900 make this
00:56:33.440 statement, it
00:56:34.900 was on
00:56:35.300 Hannity.
00:56:36.360 Nailed it.
00:56:37.480 Because you
00:56:37.840 want to be
00:56:38.280 on the
00:56:40.060 most, right
00:56:43.020 most kind
00:56:44.280 of, you
00:56:44.580 know, Trump
00:56:45.440 friendly platform,
00:56:47.240 in part because
00:56:48.820 the whole
00:56:49.540 situation will
00:56:50.320 go well for
00:56:50.940 him, but
00:56:51.640 partly because
00:56:52.220 it forces the
00:56:53.160 left to watch
00:56:53.820 it.
00:56:54.780 He created a
00:56:55.980 Hannity clip
00:56:56.860 that the left
00:56:57.940 just had to
00:56:58.460 watch because
00:56:59.340 the story is
00:56:59.880 too big.
00:57:00.340 They could
00:57:01.320 ignore Trump
00:57:02.340 on Hannity
00:57:02.940 if he says
00:57:03.540 ordinary
00:57:03.920 stuff, but
00:57:05.720 they couldn't
00:57:06.220 ignore this.
00:57:07.500 The story is
00:57:07.960 too big.
00:57:08.940 So putting it
00:57:09.440 on Hannity was
00:57:10.080 kind of
00:57:10.400 brilliant.
00:57:10.860 Here's what he
00:57:11.260 said.
00:57:11.600 Quote, if you
00:57:12.560 missed it,
00:57:12.980 I condemn
00:57:13.400 the KKK, I
00:57:14.900 condemn all
00:57:15.420 white supremacists,
00:57:16.360 I condemn the
00:57:16.940 Proud Boys, I
00:57:18.140 don't want to
00:57:18.600 here's the best
00:57:19.940 part.
00:57:20.500 He goes, I
00:57:21.400 don't know much
00:57:23.260 about the Proud
00:57:23.880 Boys, almost
00:57:24.860 nothing, but I
00:57:26.340 condemn them.
00:57:27.060 could that
00:57:35.140 have been more
00:57:35.740 perfect?
00:57:37.100 Let me read
00:57:38.560 between the
00:57:39.140 lines.
00:57:42.440 The first
00:57:43.320 part of his
00:57:44.580 statement, I
00:57:45.220 condemn the
00:57:45.740 KKK, true.
00:57:48.520 Not only does
00:57:49.240 he condemn
00:57:49.700 them, he
00:57:50.280 actually put
00:57:51.680 them on a
00:57:52.300 domestic terrorism
00:57:53.560 list.
00:57:54.240 So yeah, you
00:57:55.260 know that is
00:57:56.340 freaking true.
00:57:57.060 He condemns
00:57:57.780 the KKK, and
00:57:59.020 he's said it
00:57:59.500 lots of times
00:58:00.040 in the past
00:58:00.560 as well.
00:58:01.340 He goes, I
00:58:01.860 condemn all
00:58:02.440 white supremacists.
00:58:03.400 Again, something
00:58:04.580 he's said a
00:58:05.220 number of
00:58:05.600 times that the
00:58:06.420 left has never
00:58:07.060 heard, but the
00:58:07.800 right has heard
00:58:08.320 lots of times.
00:58:09.820 All good.
00:58:11.120 So now he's
00:58:11.700 said the two
00:58:12.140 important things,
00:58:13.300 and notice that
00:58:14.000 he said them
00:58:14.480 first.
00:58:16.060 If you're good
00:58:17.080 at media
00:58:17.820 relations, you
00:58:19.180 do this.
00:58:20.340 You say you
00:58:21.260 lead with the
00:58:22.080 thing you want
00:58:22.800 to say.
00:58:24.560 You don't put
00:58:25.760 any qualifiers,
00:58:26.680 you just
00:58:27.140 say, I
00:58:27.520 condemn the
00:58:27.920 KKK, I
00:58:28.760 condemn all
00:58:29.200 white supremacists.
00:58:30.320 So he's
00:58:31.180 moved from
00:58:31.920 the debate
00:58:33.080 where his
00:58:33.520 answer was
00:58:34.260 bad, to
00:58:35.960 this where
00:58:36.440 it's perfect.
00:58:37.800 There's no
00:58:38.480 improvement on
00:58:39.180 this.
00:58:39.400 This is a
00:58:39.820 perfect statement.
00:58:41.460 But then
00:58:41.900 when he
00:58:42.200 throws in
00:58:42.620 the proud
00:58:43.000 boys, don't
00:58:45.200 think of
00:58:45.640 this as
00:58:46.320 throwing them
00:58:46.860 under the
00:58:47.260 bus exactly,
00:58:48.460 because I
00:58:48.940 don't quite
00:58:49.420 see that.
00:58:50.540 Here's what
00:58:51.040 I see.
00:58:52.220 This is a
00:58:52.880 little bit
00:58:53.360 tongue-in-cheek.
00:58:54.380 Remember I
00:58:54.840 told you that
00:58:55.480 the hard
00:58:55.920 part is
00:58:57.200 where do
00:58:57.520 you draw
00:58:57.820 the line?
00:58:58.960 Like, how
00:58:59.280 do you go
00:58:59.900 from KKK,
00:59:01.500 definitely
00:59:01.740 bad, white
00:59:02.700 supremacists,
00:59:03.340 definitely
00:59:03.560 bad, I
00:59:05.120 don't know
00:59:05.460 who the
00:59:05.760 proud boys
00:59:06.240 are.
00:59:07.420 But the
00:59:07.840 fact that
00:59:08.380 he said
00:59:08.940 explicitly,
00:59:10.700 I don't
00:59:11.160 know much
00:59:11.600 about them,
00:59:12.300 almost nothing,
00:59:13.520 but I
00:59:13.940 condemn that?
00:59:14.880 Come on.
00:59:20.320 Come on.
00:59:21.980 Could that
00:59:22.480 have been
00:59:22.840 more perfect
00:59:23.540 to say he
00:59:24.460 doesn't know
00:59:24.960 anything about
00:59:25.720 them and he
00:59:26.260 condemns them?
00:59:27.540 That tells
00:59:28.400 you,
00:59:29.180 that tells
00:59:31.460 you everything
00:59:33.260 you need to
00:59:33.840 know about
00:59:34.240 it.
00:59:34.640 Because remember,
00:59:35.600 the problem
00:59:36.180 was, what
00:59:36.980 happens when
00:59:37.560 he gets
00:59:38.240 into the
00:59:38.680 gray area?
00:59:39.600 The way he
00:59:40.440 handled the
00:59:41.020 gray area
00:59:41.660 was to say
00:59:42.900 he doesn't
00:59:43.340 know what
00:59:43.680 they do,
00:59:44.060 but he
00:59:44.300 condemns
00:59:44.720 them anyway.
00:59:46.960 You can't
00:59:48.040 do better
00:59:48.560 than that.
00:59:50.660 That is
00:59:51.500 the best
00:59:51.980 answer maybe
00:59:53.640 anybody has
00:59:54.380 ever given
00:59:55.000 to any
00:59:56.340 question from
00:59:58.120 the beginning
00:59:58.640 of recorded
00:59:59.340 history.
01:00:00.500 You will
01:00:01.180 never see
01:00:02.180 a more
01:00:03.560 perfect answer
01:00:04.460 to a
01:00:05.540 trap
01:00:05.920 question.
01:00:07.200 Remember
01:00:07.500 when,
01:00:08.680 harking back
01:00:09.760 to the
01:00:11.780 Rosie O'Donnell
01:00:12.580 situation in
01:00:13.320 his first
01:00:13.660 debate,
01:00:14.140 when he
01:00:14.440 said,
01:00:14.680 only Rosie
01:00:15.240 O'Donnell,
01:00:16.120 and he
01:00:16.460 got out
01:00:17.020 of the
01:00:17.320 worst
01:00:17.720 question
01:00:19.100 trap you
01:00:19.720 could ever
01:00:20.040 get out
01:00:20.420 of.
01:00:21.080 And that
01:00:21.500 was the,
01:00:22.120 you know,
01:00:22.460 as I've
01:00:23.020 told the
01:00:23.340 story,
01:00:23.660 that was
01:00:23.900 the moment
01:00:24.300 I said,
01:00:25.220 wait a minute,
01:00:26.280 he's doing
01:00:26.840 things that
01:00:27.300 nobody can
01:00:27.780 do.
01:00:28.520 He just
01:00:28.920 did the
01:00:29.240 impossible
01:00:29.660 right in
01:00:30.040 front of
01:00:30.260 me.
01:00:30.420 He got
01:00:30.700 out of
01:00:30.900 the
01:00:31.000 impossible
01:00:31.540 trap.
01:00:31.980 trap.
01:00:32.840 Now,
01:00:33.400 he did
01:00:33.680 not get
01:00:34.040 out of
01:00:34.220 the
01:00:34.340 trap
01:00:34.640 in the
01:00:35.560 debate,
01:00:36.660 but when
01:00:38.820 he had
01:00:39.100 time to
01:00:39.720 prepare and
01:00:40.700 think about
01:00:41.200 it,
01:00:41.820 he came
01:00:42.320 up with,
01:00:43.060 really,
01:00:44.500 you could
01:00:45.100 not craft a
01:00:46.880 better answer
01:00:47.360 than this.
01:00:48.080 Because you
01:00:48.720 can read the
01:00:49.300 Proud Boys'
01:00:50.000 part as
01:00:50.900 tongue-in-cheek,
01:00:52.540 the fact that
01:00:53.140 he would
01:00:53.400 condemn them
01:00:53.980 while saying
01:00:54.440 he doesn't
01:00:54.780 know what
01:00:55.060 they are.
01:00:55.420 that is
01:00:56.420 the funniest,
01:00:57.300 I'm sorry,
01:00:58.000 I feel like
01:00:58.460 I have to
01:00:58.940 swear.
01:01:00.220 Do you
01:01:01.140 mind an
01:01:01.980 F-word in
01:01:02.580 the middle
01:01:02.820 of this?
01:01:04.520 Give you a
01:01:05.100 little bit of
01:01:05.460 warning to
01:01:07.040 send the
01:01:07.640 children away,
01:01:08.400 earmuffs,
01:01:09.360 earmuffs on
01:01:09.980 the children.
01:01:10.780 There's
01:01:10.960 sometimes when
01:01:11.700 the F-word is
01:01:13.340 the only word
01:01:13.960 that works in
01:01:15.100 the sentence,
01:01:15.700 have you ever
01:01:16.080 noticed that?
01:01:16.980 So let me
01:01:17.440 say it with
01:01:17.880 the F-word
01:01:18.360 the way it
01:01:18.780 should have
01:01:19.020 been said.
01:01:20.280 When the
01:01:20.820 president said,
01:01:21.640 I don't know
01:01:22.000 much about the
01:01:22.600 Proud Boys,
01:01:23.160 almost nothing,
01:01:23.880 but I condemn
01:01:24.480 that,
01:01:24.840 that's the
01:01:26.040 funniest fucking
01:01:26.800 thing a
01:01:27.380 president ever
01:01:28.060 said.
01:01:29.400 That's just
01:01:30.080 the funniest
01:01:30.580 fucking thing.
01:01:32.120 And I don't
01:01:32.800 know if
01:01:33.180 everybody's going
01:01:33.920 to appreciate
01:01:34.600 how brilliant
01:01:36.980 that is.
01:01:38.060 Because what
01:01:38.640 it does was,
01:01:40.360 in a million
01:01:41.460 years I
01:01:41.920 couldn't have
01:01:42.280 seen this
01:01:42.680 solution.
01:01:43.440 Literally,
01:01:44.060 this is like
01:01:44.500 a Houdini
01:01:45.060 situation.
01:01:46.260 Because I
01:01:48.020 would not
01:01:48.500 have known
01:01:49.120 how to get
01:01:49.940 out of the
01:01:50.380 trap of
01:01:51.420 going down
01:01:52.020 the gray
01:01:52.540 area.
01:01:53.880 Right?
01:01:53.960 Now,
01:01:54.880 what happens
01:01:55.680 if next
01:01:57.360 he's asked
01:01:57.960 to condemn
01:01:58.780 somebody who
01:01:59.760 is even
01:02:00.260 more,
01:02:02.640 let's say,
01:02:04.680 holy?
01:02:06.580 The next one
01:02:07.440 he could do
01:02:07.820 the same
01:02:08.220 thing.
01:02:08.820 He could say,
01:02:09.100 well,
01:02:09.260 I don't know
01:02:09.600 much about
01:02:10.120 them,
01:02:10.240 but I
01:02:10.460 condemn
01:02:10.800 them.
01:02:11.160 Are you
01:02:11.320 happy?
01:02:12.120 Sure,
01:02:12.420 I condemn
01:02:12.780 them.
01:02:13.360 I don't
01:02:13.800 know what
01:02:14.000 they do,
01:02:15.140 but I
01:02:15.620 condemn
01:02:15.920 them.
01:02:17.480 That's it.
01:02:18.160 he's shown
01:02:20.080 a willingness
01:02:20.540 to condemn
01:02:21.860 people just
01:02:23.800 because you
01:02:24.160 wanted them
01:02:24.520 to say
01:02:24.840 it.
01:02:25.280 It took
01:02:25.660 all the
01:02:25.920 power out
01:02:26.380 of it.
01:02:27.180 It's sort
01:02:27.600 of like
01:02:27.960 Jay-Z
01:02:31.420 using the
01:02:32.080 N-word.
01:02:33.000 If you've
01:02:33.580 ever seen
01:02:34.000 Jay-Z,
01:02:35.020 he was
01:02:35.400 asked about,
01:02:36.400 well,
01:02:36.540 why do you
01:02:36.880 always use
01:02:37.340 the N-word
01:02:37.880 in your
01:02:38.240 music?
01:02:39.900 And part
01:02:40.320 of his
01:02:40.600 answer was
01:02:41.700 that it
01:02:41.980 takes the
01:02:42.360 power out
01:02:42.820 of it.
01:02:43.120 Instead of
01:02:44.140 it being
01:02:44.540 a horrible
01:02:45.280 insult,
01:02:46.200 he just
01:02:46.600 owns it,
01:02:47.580 uses it,
01:02:48.340 turns it
01:02:48.680 into a
01:02:49.020 tool.
01:02:49.960 Good
01:02:50.240 technique,
01:02:51.000 Jay-Z.
01:02:51.900 And the
01:02:52.500 president
01:02:52.860 kind of
01:02:53.900 did that
01:02:54.360 a little
01:02:54.640 bit by
01:02:56.100 saying,
01:02:56.660 you want
01:02:56.880 me to
01:02:57.180 condemn?
01:02:58.120 What do
01:02:58.440 you want?
01:02:59.560 Give me
01:03:00.100 a name.
01:03:00.880 Give me
01:03:01.160 a name,
01:03:01.520 I'll
01:03:01.680 condemn
01:03:01.940 him.
01:03:02.840 How
01:03:02.940 about,
01:03:04.520 I'm
01:03:06.300 trying to
01:03:06.600 think of
01:03:06.880 some other
01:03:07.300 example.
01:03:08.780 How about
01:03:09.360 the,
01:03:10.760 I don't
01:03:12.040 know,
01:03:12.460 anybody.
01:03:13.120 All right,
01:03:15.400 unemployment
01:03:15.800 down to
01:03:16.320 7.9 in
01:03:17.520 September.
01:03:18.640 Well,
01:03:19.140 room to
01:03:20.140 grow.
01:03:21.760 So,
01:03:22.520 let me
01:03:23.160 give you
01:03:23.420 a bottom
01:03:23.760 line on
01:03:24.360 the
01:03:24.600 president
01:03:24.960 and his
01:03:25.940 coronavirus
01:03:26.500 situation.
01:03:27.720 First of
01:03:28.080 all,
01:03:28.380 what are
01:03:28.620 the odds
01:03:29.300 that the,
01:03:30.580 is it the
01:03:31.160 head of the
01:03:31.520 Democratic
01:03:31.860 Party,
01:03:32.480 her name
01:03:32.800 is Rona?
01:03:34.200 What are
01:03:34.580 the odds
01:03:34.960 that,
01:03:35.320 I'm sorry,
01:03:35.740 the head
01:03:35.940 of the
01:03:36.140 Republican
01:03:36.480 Party,
01:03:37.620 isn't the
01:03:38.580 chair of
01:03:39.620 the Republican
01:03:40.160 Party named
01:03:40.780 Rona?
01:03:42.000 R-O-N-A?
01:03:43.840 What are
01:03:44.460 the odds
01:03:44.720 of that?
01:03:47.200 I'm just
01:03:47.880 tossing that
01:03:48.440 in there
01:03:48.700 because it
01:03:49.460 struck my
01:03:50.140 mind funny.
01:03:52.520 But anyway,
01:03:53.940 my guess
01:03:54.900 is that
01:03:56.260 this will
01:03:56.980 work for
01:03:57.980 the president.
01:04:00.120 I think
01:04:00.880 it could go
01:04:01.460 either way,
01:04:02.240 so I wouldn't
01:04:02.820 put a ton
01:04:03.480 of confidence
01:04:04.080 in this
01:04:04.680 initial opinion,
01:04:05.980 and I'll
01:04:06.600 reserve the
01:04:07.180 right to
01:04:07.540 revise my
01:04:08.280 opinion.
01:04:08.580 because you
01:04:09.260 need to
01:04:09.580 see how
01:04:10.560 the public
01:04:11.200 responds.
01:04:12.760 And once
01:04:13.060 you see
01:04:13.400 how they
01:04:13.700 respond,
01:04:14.580 you'll get
01:04:15.080 a better
01:04:15.360 idea if
01:04:15.960 this is
01:04:16.280 going to
01:04:16.500 work for
01:04:16.980 or against
01:04:17.360 the president.
01:04:18.280 But let
01:04:18.640 me ask
01:04:18.920 you this.
01:04:20.460 Is it
01:04:21.060 more likely
01:04:21.640 that the
01:04:22.100 president
01:04:22.440 would cause
01:04:23.200 trouble by
01:04:24.660 speaking out
01:04:25.480 and doing
01:04:25.760 public
01:04:26.120 appearances,
01:04:26.780 or that
01:04:27.720 he would
01:04:28.040 gain votes?
01:04:30.280 I don't
01:04:30.560 know.
01:04:30.880 There were
01:04:31.100 probably more
01:04:31.580 downside from
01:04:32.800 active campaigning
01:04:33.880 at this point
01:04:34.480 than upside.
01:04:34.960 It's
01:04:35.640 hard to
01:04:35.940 say.
01:04:38.520 And
01:04:38.800 Tom
01:04:42.740 Arnold,
01:04:43.440 people are
01:04:45.120 suggesting
01:04:45.720 people to
01:04:46.280 condemn.
01:04:47.160 What about
01:04:47.680 the Elbonians?
01:04:49.080 Well, I
01:04:49.480 don't know
01:04:49.720 anything about
01:04:50.180 the Elbonians,
01:04:51.020 but I
01:04:52.020 condemn that.
01:04:53.400 I think I'm
01:04:54.560 going to
01:04:54.760 tweet that
01:04:55.180 after we're
01:04:55.600 done here.
01:04:56.800 All right.
01:04:58.320 My guess
01:04:59.200 is that this
01:04:59.860 will create
01:05:00.380 some sympathy
01:05:00.980 for the
01:05:01.440 president,
01:05:02.120 but in
01:05:02.880 addition,
01:05:03.480 it's very,
01:05:04.260 very
01:05:04.420 compatible
01:05:04.980 with his
01:05:06.400 notion that
01:05:07.440 we should
01:05:07.760 try to
01:05:08.060 get back
01:05:08.420 to work
01:05:08.900 even at
01:05:09.800 great risk
01:05:10.560 to some
01:05:11.180 people.
01:05:12.260 And he
01:05:12.680 was one
01:05:13.080 of the
01:05:13.280 people who
01:05:13.680 took the
01:05:14.060 risk.
01:05:15.120 He lived
01:05:16.540 the life
01:05:17.060 that he
01:05:17.500 was promoting,
01:05:18.500 which is
01:05:18.800 take
01:05:19.080 precautions,
01:05:21.780 but still
01:05:22.200 work.
01:05:23.340 That's what
01:05:23.940 he did.
01:05:24.360 He took
01:05:24.700 precautions,
01:05:25.800 but he
01:05:26.760 still worked.
01:05:27.480 That's what
01:05:27.780 he asked
01:05:29.120 of the
01:05:29.360 country.
01:05:30.340 And he
01:05:31.100 took a
01:05:31.440 risk,
01:05:32.640 and
01:05:32.880 in a
01:05:34.660 weird way,
01:05:35.260 he turned
01:05:35.600 into an
01:05:35.980 accidental
01:05:36.440 role model
01:05:37.060 because he
01:05:38.700 took the
01:05:39.020 risk.
01:05:40.600 So we'll
01:05:41.300 see.
01:05:42.060 All right.
01:05:42.980 That's all I
01:05:43.460 got to say
01:05:43.880 about this.
01:05:45.260 And I
01:05:45.920 condemn
01:05:46.160 everyone.
01:05:47.400 I condemn
01:05:48.200 everything I
01:05:50.120 don't understand.
01:05:51.440 In general,
01:05:52.620 if I don't
01:05:53.020 know about it,
01:05:54.320 I condemn
01:05:54.760 it.
01:05:55.760 That's my
01:05:56.340 take on
01:05:57.060 this.
01:05:57.260 And
01:05:58.320 somebody
01:06:00.920 said
01:06:01.180 Rona
01:06:01.800 is
01:06:02.160 COVID
01:06:02.700 positive.
01:06:03.880 That's not
01:06:04.620 I don't
01:06:06.260 know if
01:06:06.540 that's a
01:06:06.880 real thing.
01:06:07.880 So don't
01:06:08.300 believe that.
01:06:11.220 All right.
01:06:12.100 That's all
01:06:12.640 for now.
01:06:13.040 I'll talk
01:06:13.280 to you
01:06:13.440 later.