Real Coffee with Scott Adams - October 02, 2020


Episode 1142 Scott Adams: I Think You Know the Topics This Morning


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

151.10152

Word Count

10,007

Sentence Count

643

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

The President and First Lady have Coronavirus, Gavin Mcinnis is suing CNN for calling the Proud Boys white supremacists, and there's nothing else to talk about other than that. And that's a good thing.


Transcript

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00:00:09.880 Hey everybody
00:00:14.120 Come on in
00:00:15.900 I overslept
00:00:19.100 Did anything happen in the last half of day?
00:00:21.820 Did I miss anything?
00:00:24.200 Oh, yeah
00:00:25.400 I think I did
00:00:26.320 I think I did miss something
00:00:28.200 We're going to be talking about that.
00:00:30.320 Come on in. Come on in.
00:00:32.460 You need to come in here for the best part of the day.
00:00:36.760 And this is the sort of day you really need to get up for the day.
00:00:42.040 You're going to have to dig a little bit deeper today.
00:00:45.020 But all you need to get going on the right foot is a cup or a mug or a glass of tank or chalice or stein, a canteen jug or flask of a vessel of any kind.
00:00:53.900 Fill it with your favorite liquid.
00:00:55.800 I like coffee.
00:00:58.900 And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
00:01:05.940 And we hope that includes the coronavirus.
00:01:08.700 It's called the simultaneous sip.
00:01:10.720 And let's lift our glass to the good health of our First Lady and the President.
00:01:17.040 To all of you.
00:01:21.920 Ah.
00:01:24.120 Well, it's a busy news story.
00:01:26.300 So let me look through my notes and see what we want to talk about first.
00:01:30.920 There's the economy.
00:01:34.060 Don't really care about that today.
00:01:37.500 We could talk some more about the Biden debate.
00:01:40.900 We don't really care about the Biden debate.
00:01:45.580 How about the climate change is the most important.
00:01:48.260 It's by far the most important issue.
00:01:50.820 I don't give a shit about that.
00:01:55.020 There's a giant asteroid heading toward the Earth that will kill us all in about 16 hours.
00:02:02.360 But like I'm interested in that.
00:02:05.220 I'm not.
00:02:06.020 So, where do we start?
00:02:13.200 Where do we start?
00:02:14.980 You know, when I went to sleep last night, I told myself quite incorrectly that I might be one of the big stories in the morning.
00:02:25.480 I thought to myself, you know, I'm trending on Twitter yesterday afternoon.
00:02:33.500 I'm trending.
00:02:34.400 My name's trending.
00:02:35.320 Dilbert is trending.
00:02:37.140 And I thought to myself, there's articles about me and the Hill.
00:02:41.260 People are contacting me all over the place.
00:02:43.600 And I thought to myself, you know, I'm going to wake up and I'm going to be the big story in the morning.
00:02:51.920 Well, that didn't work out.
00:02:54.180 So, here's the big story about me.
00:02:59.060 All right.
00:02:59.580 Well, I'll talk about that in a moment.
00:03:01.180 But first, let's get to the good stuff.
00:03:06.040 The biggest story, of course, I mean, I don't think there's any doubt about what the big story is.
00:03:11.440 And that is that Gavin McGinnis has decided to sue Joe Biden and CNN for calling the Proud Boys white supremacists.
00:03:22.080 Was there anything else that happened?
00:03:24.680 Any other stories?
00:03:29.020 And, of course, it's just such a weird day.
00:03:35.500 I don't quite know what to do with this day.
00:03:38.040 So, I was going to talk about some other things, but there's nothing else to talk about.
00:03:43.140 There's just nothing else to talk about.
00:03:45.480 The news of the President and the First Lady having coronavirus just made everything else unimportant.
00:03:54.160 All at the same time.
00:03:55.880 It wasn't just me.
00:03:57.760 You know, of course, like everybody, I think the world revolves around me.
00:04:03.480 But nothing else feels important, does it?
00:04:08.060 Are you having the same feeling that just nothing else feels important?
00:04:11.600 It just took everything, everything else, and just put it in its own little perspective.
00:04:17.660 But let's talk about that.
00:04:21.100 Number one, what will this do to the President's empathy issue?
00:04:30.560 In other words, the people who think he's not showing enough empathy, will this change it?
00:04:36.120 In other words, when it happens to him, will people say, well, now you've got some empathy,
00:04:40.120 and suddenly their own biggest complaint about the President will be fixed.
00:04:45.760 Because that's the big complaint.
00:04:47.640 He doesn't understand how big it is or how big the risk is.
00:04:52.480 But I'll bet he does now.
00:04:54.340 Or at least people will imagine that it's changed his mind, even if it doesn't.
00:04:59.180 So, it's going to be really tough to predict the psychology of this.
00:05:05.400 The psychology is wildly unpredictable.
00:05:07.580 Let's just talk about where it could go.
00:05:10.860 Number one, did you see the video?
00:05:15.060 There's a little clip from the debate in which Joe Biden was trying to list three things.
00:05:21.260 And he skipped the second one.
00:05:22.680 He goes, number one, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:24.140 And then he goes, number two.
00:05:26.360 And then he goes, number three.
00:05:28.160 And he just skips whatever number two is and goes to number three.
00:05:31.200 And Trump was talking over him the whole time.
00:05:33.340 And Trump not only keeps his own train of thought,
00:05:37.580 but while he's thinking it, he realizes, while he's talking,
00:05:42.400 Trump realizes that Biden has skipped a number.
00:05:45.380 And in the middle of his sentence, he goes, you missed a number.
00:05:48.460 And he goes back to talking.
00:05:50.080 And I thought, that takes a lot of concentration.
00:05:53.280 He was literally doing two things at once.
00:05:55.100 He was listening, listening to math and talking in front of the public.
00:06:00.260 And he was actually tracking both of them at the same time.
00:06:03.100 It was kind of impressive.
00:06:03.960 And funny, too.
00:06:06.960 But that's not what I was getting at.
00:06:10.140 So you've got the empathy issue.
00:06:11.940 What will that happen?
00:06:13.540 Here's another part of the psychology.
00:06:16.900 I'll just hit all the little parts and see if we can put them together into anything.
00:06:21.380 Another part is that since Trump has been the one who's been saying,
00:06:26.400 maybe more than anybody, at least anybody prominent,
00:06:29.400 that we should take the risk of getting back to work.
00:06:34.220 So if you ask yourself, what was the message that Trump was telling the country?
00:06:40.160 What was the leadership message?
00:06:42.660 It probably was something along the lines of,
00:06:45.780 let's take the risk with this thing,
00:06:48.740 because getting everything working is more important
00:06:52.840 than some of these individual risks.
00:06:56.120 He walked the walk and he took the risk
00:07:01.080 and he actually contracted it.
00:07:04.480 So he modeled, you know, not intentionally, of course,
00:07:08.460 but he ended up exactly modeling the thing he said
00:07:12.340 was the condition we should be walking toward.
00:07:16.740 So he actually walked into the situation he was promoting,
00:07:21.760 not the situation he was avoiding.
00:07:23.880 So nobody can say you tried really hard not to get it,
00:07:29.580 you know, you did everything you could not to get it,
00:07:31.740 and blah, blah, blah, but bad luck, he got it anyway.
00:07:34.800 He designed this level of risk,
00:07:38.520 and then he walked into it,
00:07:40.560 and he had bad luck.
00:07:42.440 You know, he was one of the ones who got it.
00:07:44.940 At least I hope it was bad luck.
00:07:47.620 I hope there was nothing nefarious going on there.
00:07:50.680 And I feel as if there is some authenticity in that,
00:07:58.320 and I don't know which way that works for him.
00:08:00.640 I feel like it works a little bit in a positive way,
00:08:04.360 because he was consistent to his own description
00:08:10.400 of how we should handle this.
00:08:12.620 And he was consistent, meaning that he said
00:08:15.400 we should try to live our best life
00:08:17.060 while, you know, masking up when we can
00:08:19.340 and doing the things we can,
00:08:21.340 but not to hide from life.
00:08:25.800 And sure enough,
00:08:27.420 he modeled the very behavior
00:08:29.320 that he was promoting for the rest of the country,
00:08:31.860 good or bad.
00:08:32.640 I'm not saying that that's good or bad.
00:08:34.480 I'm not putting the judgment on it.
00:08:36.140 I'm just saying that he modeled
00:08:37.400 what he wanted for us.
00:08:39.480 So he did not hide from the risk
00:08:43.180 that he asked the public to take.
00:08:46.340 That's a big deal.
00:08:48.060 Imagine two different generals.
00:08:50.680 One rides into battle at the front of the charge
00:08:56.880 and is part of the battle and is in the battle.
00:08:59.760 The other general is back at headquarters
00:09:03.320 and phones it in and says,
00:09:05.520 I'll be getting a massage.
00:09:08.740 Why don't you attack the front lines
00:09:10.580 and let me know how it goes.
00:09:12.420 Which of those leaders is the bigger leader?
00:09:15.320 Is it the leader who does and models
00:09:17.480 exactly what he's asking of the troops,
00:09:21.180 in this case the country,
00:09:22.640 or is it the one who has a completely different existence,
00:09:26.980 one who hides from the virus
00:09:28.760 while telling you not to hide from the virus?
00:09:31.980 Now, you could argue whether he was trying hard enough
00:09:34.820 to stay away from the virus.
00:09:36.680 I don't think anybody would take the position
00:09:39.920 that he really quarantined himself
00:09:42.220 the way he could have.
00:09:43.400 As president, he could have had a...
00:09:45.420 The president could have had a total seal
00:09:48.700 on his contacts.
00:09:49.780 He could have.
00:09:50.700 He just chose not to.
00:09:52.360 And it was the same decision he thinks we should make.
00:09:54.440 Now, we have to ask the question,
00:10:01.080 unfortunately, it's just horrible
00:10:02.580 that it even has to come out of my mouth,
00:10:04.360 but you have to ask the question if he'll survive.
00:10:08.100 I haven't yet seen,
00:10:09.900 and I'm pretty sure I'll see it as soon as I'm done here,
00:10:12.520 an estimate for somebody in his specific situation,
00:10:16.300 you know, his age and his health.
00:10:18.100 What are the odds of his survival?
00:10:20.320 I think it's still 95%, right?
00:10:22.500 Doesn't he still have a 95% chance of survival or higher?
00:10:28.040 98%?
00:10:28.740 It's pretty high.
00:10:30.580 And you add that to probably early detection.
00:10:34.080 You add that to the best health care in the world.
00:10:37.840 You know, I think his odds are pretty good.
00:10:41.440 But here's the question you have to ask.
00:10:43.440 Was it an assassination attempt?
00:10:47.260 You have to ask that question.
00:10:49.420 Now, in all likelihood, it was not, right?
00:10:51.960 Because the virus is everywhere.
00:10:54.140 The most likely scenario is he got it the normal way.
00:10:58.220 But if you were trying to take out a leader of another country,
00:11:02.880 isn't the first thing you do is make sure that there was a lot of virus
00:11:07.160 among the people who would have contact with him?
00:11:10.760 I mean, isn't that the obvious thing you would do if you were a bad player?
00:11:14.180 Get a little virus, make sure that, you know,
00:11:16.800 the assistant to the staff, whatever, gets infected
00:11:20.220 until, you know, you get lucky
00:11:22.200 and somebody gets close enough to the president.
00:11:24.300 And so I don't know how they could possibly know that one way or the other,
00:11:29.600 but you can't rule that out
00:11:30.880 because it would be such an obvious, obvious play.
00:11:37.080 Then we have the question of whether Biden will get it or already has it.
00:11:41.240 Because I would think that the president probably already had contracted it
00:11:45.860 when he was at the debate.
00:11:49.160 He may have actually contracted it at the debate.
00:11:52.100 That's possible.
00:11:52.720 So he was probably at least in the general vicinity of Biden
00:11:57.240 when he was infected, you know, 20 feet away.
00:12:04.380 And what would that change?
00:12:05.780 What if they both get it?
00:12:07.040 I mean, these are completely impossible to sort out the psychology in advance
00:12:13.020 of how that would affect things.
00:12:14.720 But what will happen to Trump's,
00:12:18.620 what will happen to his campaign?
00:12:20.580 Because that's the end of his physical campaigning.
00:12:25.100 Will Trump get better credit for staying home because that's good behavior, I guess?
00:12:33.240 Or will he just lose his momentum because he's losing his energy?
00:12:38.720 Is Trump, without being Trump, still Trump?
00:12:43.120 In other words, if you take the high energy, which we know to be Trump,
00:12:47.480 and you take, you know, 40% off the energy because he's sick,
00:12:51.440 if it turns out he has symptoms, we don't know yet, you know.
00:12:55.040 But if it takes, let's say, 40% off his energy, can he even do a Zoom, right?
00:13:03.180 Can you even do a Zoom if you're at low energy?
00:13:07.220 Probably not.
00:13:07.860 It's entirely possible that Trump will just disappear from public view.
00:13:14.700 You know, it may be that, you know, if he's low energy,
00:13:18.500 I don't know if he wants us to see him.
00:13:20.840 If he even looks like he's sick,
00:13:23.760 is that going to help him or hurt him if you saw him on Zoom?
00:13:27.460 It might help him.
00:13:29.000 Again, these are totally imponderables at this point.
00:13:32.480 You know, we'll be able to look back in hindsight and say,
00:13:35.240 oh, that was the one variable that mattered.
00:13:37.460 But right now, it's a whole bunch of variables,
00:13:39.920 and they're all just swirling around.
00:13:42.800 And one of them is, imagine this.
00:13:45.060 Let's say, you know, he loses his energy or something,
00:13:49.040 which would be typical.
00:13:50.660 And he still does a Zoom because he still wants to get out there.
00:13:55.360 And you watch the Zoom, and everybody who watches it says,
00:13:59.380 he doesn't look well.
00:14:01.020 Well, he doesn't look well.
00:14:03.820 What would that do to your feelings about re-electing him?
00:14:08.240 Would you say, ah, I can't elect somebody
00:14:11.180 who's literally, you know, might not make it to election day,
00:14:15.980 you know, if it looked like that was the case.
00:14:18.360 Or would you say, finally, he looks human?
00:14:22.220 You know, there's something about this
00:14:23.900 which has become sort of the third act.
00:14:28.440 You know, it's the turning point.
00:14:29.820 It's the thing that changes him.
00:14:31.780 Might he be a different person after this?
00:14:35.100 Because that's possible.
00:14:36.840 This is the sort of event that could actually change him.
00:14:41.340 Not in every way, but it might change an opinion.
00:14:44.760 It might change a policy.
00:14:46.020 It might change his empathy.
00:14:47.160 It might change how people see him.
00:14:49.200 It could be big.
00:14:50.500 We don't know.
00:14:51.760 People are unpredictable.
00:14:53.300 Let's see.
00:14:56.100 The other things that we need to think about this
00:14:58.200 is if you were investing,
00:15:03.180 the most important thing you should do as an investor
00:15:06.040 is fill in the blank, diversify.
00:15:09.580 There's nothing more important if you're investing
00:15:12.060 than making sure that you spread your risk
00:15:14.360 across different stocks or different classes of investments.
00:15:17.380 But when we run two candidates for president,
00:15:21.560 just two,
00:15:23.440 that's not very well diversified, right?
00:15:26.140 So you need one of those two to work out
00:15:30.420 so you don't have any choice,
00:15:33.120 any chance of a good outcome.
00:15:35.580 But what we did
00:15:36.620 is we started with a senior citizen president
00:15:40.520 and we added one choice,
00:15:45.040 which is somebody who was even older.
00:15:47.900 It doesn't make any sense
00:15:49.900 that we run two elderly candidates for president.
00:15:55.100 That was maybe one of the dumbest things
00:15:57.500 that America has ever done
00:15:58.820 because if you run two elderly candidates for president
00:16:03.080 and by any measure,
00:16:05.920 Joe Biden looks like he's right on the margin
00:16:07.920 of even being functional,
00:16:09.340 you really just had one president as a spare
00:16:13.680 because you had sort of a shaky Biden
00:16:16.260 from the starting gate.
00:16:18.960 Your backup is President Trump.
00:16:21.200 If anything happened to him,
00:16:23.460 you don't have a healthy candidate.
00:16:25.920 You actually would not have a candidate for president
00:16:28.900 who is sufficiently healthy,
00:16:32.040 just healthy.
00:16:33.380 Forget about policy.
00:16:35.020 Forget about his record,
00:16:38.220 his background.
00:16:39.340 Forget about all that.
00:16:41.260 We intentionally,
00:16:42.660 meaning America,
00:16:43.780 we put ourselves in a position
00:16:45.220 where we had a very high risk
00:16:47.600 of this very thing.
00:16:50.200 This was the risk we knew
00:16:52.140 we were putting ourselves into.
00:16:54.600 Two elderly candidates,
00:16:56.640 maybe none of them would be up for the job
00:16:58.880 by election day.
00:17:00.120 There was a good chance of this.
00:17:01.840 You can't say,
00:17:02.740 you can certainly say you didn't see
00:17:05.400 the specific thing coming,
00:17:06.960 that it was coronavirus back in November of last year.
00:17:11.000 You probably didn't see this coming.
00:17:13.740 But was it impossible to see?
00:17:17.200 Could smart people have a forecast
00:17:19.820 that it was a bad idea
00:17:21.960 to have two elderly candidates
00:17:23.640 and one of them's already shaky?
00:17:25.380 We did this to ourselves.
00:17:29.980 This is absolutely
00:17:31.360 America kicking itself in the nuts
00:17:34.480 and knowing it.
00:17:36.120 It's like,
00:17:36.680 I think I'll kick myself really hard in the nuts.
00:17:39.560 Why are you doing that?
00:17:41.200 I don't know.
00:17:42.480 I don't know.
00:17:43.680 Seemed like the thing to do.
00:17:45.600 And then we kicked ourselves really hard in the nuts
00:17:47.840 and here we are.
00:17:49.240 So,
00:17:50.200 how's the stock market look?
00:17:52.360 Well,
00:17:53.400 not so good.
00:17:58.120 Yeah,
00:17:58.680 it looks like a lot of red.
00:18:00.700 Red,
00:18:01.260 red.
00:18:02.680 So,
00:18:04.060 does that tell you that the
00:18:05.640 system just doesn't like
00:18:08.200 risk and change
00:18:09.420 or does it tell you that they
00:18:10.760 think that
00:18:12.560 if President Trump
00:18:13.860 doesn't get re-elected
00:18:15.120 that the market will tank?
00:18:17.040 What's it telling you?
00:18:18.520 I think it's telling you
00:18:20.200 that there are a lot of shy
00:18:22.300 Trump investors,
00:18:23.640 if you know what I mean.
00:18:24.940 People who think
00:18:25.880 Trump is better for the market
00:18:27.360 even if they don't necessarily
00:18:29.020 want to vote for him.
00:18:30.320 They still think he might be
00:18:31.800 the better one for the economy.
00:18:33.540 The polls show that.
00:18:35.500 So,
00:18:36.100 the stock market
00:18:37.140 is
00:18:38.040 tapping the public on the shoulder
00:18:40.160 and saying,
00:18:41.460 I know you're talking about
00:18:43.980 the President's health
00:18:45.660 and the First Lady's health
00:18:46.780 and their health
00:18:48.040 is the most important thing.
00:18:49.940 But,
00:18:50.400 I just got to tap you
00:18:51.460 on the shoulder here
00:18:52.160 a little bit.
00:18:52.800 Just,
00:18:53.300 just don't forget about me.
00:18:55.240 You know,
00:18:55.540 the stock market over here,
00:18:57.360 where the stock market
00:18:58.200 doesn't exist
00:18:59.020 by itself.
00:19:00.820 The stock market
00:19:01.900 is a psychology engine.
00:19:03.660 And the spark plug
00:19:05.760 that runs the psychology engine,
00:19:08.160 the economy,
00:19:09.620 just got a hiccup.
00:19:12.020 And when your spark plug
00:19:13.860 looks like it's starting
00:19:15.040 to misfire,
00:19:16.420 the entire engine
00:19:17.380 of the economy
00:19:18.100 starts to sputter.
00:19:20.240 And,
00:19:21.000 just want to give you
00:19:21.900 a little tap on the shoulder.
00:19:23.360 We're just going to pull back
00:19:24.240 the,
00:19:24.540 just going to pull back
00:19:25.640 the Dow Jones a little bit.
00:19:26.880 Make sure you notice.
00:19:28.500 Because we don't want you
00:19:29.400 not to know
00:19:30.240 that,
00:19:31.880 hey,
00:19:32.820 you know,
00:19:33.220 we're watching.
00:19:37.540 Wow.
00:19:40.840 In the middle of this all,
00:19:42.880 the citizens
00:19:44.040 of the United States
00:19:45.100 decided to have
00:19:46.440 a separate competition
00:19:47.900 to see who could be
00:19:49.580 the worst human being
00:19:51.140 in the entire world.
00:19:53.280 Now,
00:19:53.580 if you go to Twitter,
00:19:54.460 you can see the competition
00:19:55.560 raging.
00:19:56.980 And,
00:19:57.800 the,
00:19:58.240 so far it seems to be
00:19:59.360 mostly just Democrats.
00:20:00.240 who have entered
00:20:00.840 the contest.
00:20:02.600 But,
00:20:03.280 look at some of the
00:20:04.360 comments
00:20:05.180 from the people
00:20:06.920 that you believed
00:20:07.960 were good people.
00:20:10.540 You know,
00:20:10.820 just good citizens.
00:20:12.620 Look at the things
00:20:13.520 that they say.
00:20:14.980 Now,
00:20:15.440 I'm not going to
00:20:16.240 excuse conservatives
00:20:17.640 for,
00:20:19.140 you know,
00:20:19.300 I'm not going to say
00:20:20.040 conservatives never
00:20:21.060 say horrible things
00:20:22.040 on social media.
00:20:23.140 That would not be true.
00:20:25.060 But,
00:20:25.800 at the moment,
00:20:26.720 this is mostly
00:20:27.460 coming from the left.
00:20:28.300 and it's truly
00:20:30.100 horrible.
00:20:31.360 It's truly
00:20:31.800 quite horrible.
00:20:33.240 And,
00:20:33.680 you're going to see
00:20:34.820 the worst of humanity
00:20:36.220 come out of this.
00:20:38.000 Just the worst.
00:20:39.280 I will tell you
00:20:39.880 my opinion
00:20:40.400 that when the
00:20:42.040 President,
00:20:42.720 when the President
00:20:43.600 of the United States,
00:20:44.980 no matter who it is,
00:20:46.840 gets a potentially
00:20:47.920 fatal disease,
00:20:49.880 I'm not a Republican
00:20:51.560 and I'm not a Democrat,
00:20:53.100 never was really,
00:20:53.980 but I suddenly
00:20:55.920 become not
00:20:56.800 a partisan anymore.
00:20:58.740 Certainly,
00:20:59.420 I was partisan.
00:21:00.860 But,
00:21:01.520 when your President
00:21:02.720 and your Commander
00:21:03.540 of Chief,
00:21:04.680 you know,
00:21:05.020 takes a bullet,
00:21:06.880 you don't really,
00:21:08.480 if your head
00:21:10.060 is on right,
00:21:11.700 that should
00:21:12.160 immediately collapse
00:21:13.300 your support.
00:21:14.640 And,
00:21:14.900 it should collapse
00:21:15.640 it into,
00:21:16.840 I mean,
00:21:17.720 we should be
00:21:18.320 on the same team
00:21:19.000 for a little while.
00:21:20.520 Because,
00:21:21.520 you can't lose
00:21:22.240 your President
00:21:22.840 even when you're
00:21:24.500 running for President.
00:21:25.660 You know,
00:21:25.900 even when there's
00:21:26.720 another one
00:21:27.140 that might be
00:21:27.600 coming on,
00:21:28.340 that could be
00:21:28.720 months before
00:21:29.460 things get sorted out.
00:21:31.700 Nobody wants to
00:21:32.640 lose the Commander
00:21:33.720 in Chief
00:21:34.240 now,
00:21:35.820 under any circumstance.
00:21:37.360 You might want him
00:21:38.240 not to win the election,
00:21:40.200 but,
00:21:40.740 this is,
00:21:41.360 this is the time
00:21:42.200 to,
00:21:42.640 to kind of
00:21:43.800 come together
00:21:45.720 if it can be done.
00:21:47.900 Now,
00:21:48.240 the President
00:21:48.700 has often
00:21:49.860 talked about
00:21:50.380 the coronavirus
00:21:50.880 as being,
00:21:51.780 as being a,
00:21:54.160 an enemy.
00:21:56.220 And,
00:21:56.840 it is a common
00:21:57.660 enemy now.
00:21:58.420 And,
00:21:58.660 it's not only
00:21:59.160 a common enemy,
00:22:00.180 but it's an enemy
00:22:01.040 that just
00:22:01.960 took a
00:22:02.860 big old
00:22:03.740 shot at
00:22:05.060 our Commander
00:22:05.640 in Chief.
00:22:07.120 And,
00:22:08.140 you know,
00:22:08.900 we'll see.
00:22:09.460 We'll see if this
00:22:10.120 makes a difference
00:22:10.880 in terms of
00:22:12.200 people,
00:22:12.500 how people
00:22:13.620 think about it.
00:22:14.220 I've noticed
00:22:18.440 that there's
00:22:19.100 a,
00:22:19.440 there's a
00:22:20.880 correlation
00:22:21.400 between
00:22:23.300 Democrats
00:22:24.200 and
00:22:24.960 Republicans,
00:22:26.000 or not a
00:22:26.500 correlation,
00:22:27.020 a distinction.
00:22:27.900 And it goes
00:22:28.360 like this.
00:22:28.760 And I want you
00:22:29.180 to see
00:22:29.580 if you've
00:22:30.900 noticed
00:22:31.180 this pattern.
00:22:34.140 Republicans,
00:22:34.900 for the most
00:22:35.960 part,
00:22:36.280 and this is
00:22:36.780 going to be
00:22:37.020 a gross
00:22:37.460 generalization,
00:22:38.420 right?
00:22:38.620 So I'm not
00:22:39.020 going to say
00:22:39.440 every Republican,
00:22:40.960 and I'm not
00:22:41.420 going to say
00:22:41.740 every Democrat.
00:22:42.440 Just in your
00:22:43.160 mind,
00:22:43.480 you should
00:22:43.700 always translate
00:22:44.380 that I never
00:22:45.100 mean every
00:22:45.520 single person.
00:22:47.560 Would it be
00:22:48.260 true,
00:22:49.160 the Republicans
00:22:49.780 tend to be
00:22:51.100 Christian,
00:22:52.640 or Christian,
00:22:54.520 let's say
00:22:55.660 Christian biased,
00:22:57.120 meaning that
00:22:57.880 they tend to be
00:22:58.740 influenced by
00:22:59.400 the Bible,
00:23:00.780 and by that,
00:23:01.600 you know,
00:23:02.000 that teaching,
00:23:02.780 even if they're
00:23:03.280 not actively
00:23:04.020 religious,
00:23:05.140 they probably
00:23:05.620 came from
00:23:06.060 that,
00:23:06.660 you know,
00:23:06.980 cultural thing.
00:23:08.420 And one of the
00:23:08.980 biggest elements
00:23:09.900 of Christianity
00:23:10.620 is forgiveness.
00:23:12.440 In fact,
00:23:13.100 there's almost
00:23:13.680 nothing more
00:23:15.000 central to
00:23:15.840 Christianity
00:23:16.820 than forgiveness,
00:23:18.000 right?
00:23:18.400 Second chance,
00:23:19.620 you know,
00:23:19.820 you can make up
00:23:20.380 for it in heaven.
00:23:21.480 It's all about
00:23:22.300 forgiving sins.
00:23:25.020 The Democrats,
00:23:26.360 on the other
00:23:27.140 hand,
00:23:28.360 tend to be
00:23:30.160 a little more
00:23:30.800 godless,
00:23:31.720 at least some
00:23:32.460 of the protesting
00:23:33.320 active ones
00:23:34.360 appear to be,
00:23:35.740 and they seem
00:23:37.560 to have a
00:23:38.120 philosophy that
00:23:38.960 is not
00:23:39.460 forgiveness,
00:23:41.000 it's hate.
00:23:42.440 And it's
00:23:43.040 hate based
00:23:43.720 on anything
00:23:44.340 you've ever
00:23:44.860 done.
00:23:45.620 But here's
00:23:46.060 the weird
00:23:46.400 part.
00:23:47.380 It's hate
00:23:47.800 based on
00:23:48.360 imagined sins.
00:23:50.500 So here's
00:23:51.300 the distinction.
00:23:52.920 Republicans
00:23:53.480 will,
00:23:55.000 by choice,
00:23:56.020 this is
00:23:56.620 actively
00:23:57.160 their philosophy,
00:23:58.680 they will
00:23:59.200 forgive you
00:23:59.960 for actual
00:24:01.240 real sins,
00:24:03.120 including,
00:24:03.980 you know,
00:24:04.240 you saw the
00:24:04.620 president do
00:24:05.240 that first
00:24:05.720 step act.
00:24:06.540 If you can
00:24:07.240 get your
00:24:07.600 life together
00:24:08.160 in prison,
00:24:09.460 you know,
00:24:09.820 learn something
00:24:10.700 and serve
00:24:12.500 some of
00:24:12.840 your time,
00:24:13.800 you are
00:24:14.280 forgiven.
00:24:15.080 You're
00:24:15.240 Alice Jones
00:24:16.660 and you're
00:24:17.860 forgiven,
00:24:18.380 you're
00:24:18.980 released.
00:24:20.300 And I
00:24:20.860 think Christians
00:24:21.480 actually mean
00:24:22.080 that.
00:24:22.600 I think that's
00:24:23.240 really baked
00:24:23.740 into them,
00:24:24.540 that, you
00:24:25.280 know,
00:24:25.740 you can do
00:24:26.440 some pretty
00:24:26.920 bad stuff,
00:24:28.620 but if you
00:24:29.000 are genuinely
00:24:31.540 forgiving and
00:24:32.920 you do
00:24:33.200 something with
00:24:33.700 your life,
00:24:34.140 you could be
00:24:34.580 forgiven.
00:24:37.160 It's the
00:24:37.780 opposite with
00:24:38.280 Democrats.
00:24:38.840 They actually
00:24:39.340 will imagine
00:24:40.360 something that
00:24:41.300 you did.
00:24:42.280 We imagine
00:24:43.120 that you're
00:24:43.640 racist.
00:24:44.280 We imagine
00:24:44.760 that you hate
00:24:45.280 us.
00:24:45.620 We imagine
00:24:46.100 that you're
00:24:47.000 guilty because
00:24:47.740 of something
00:24:48.500 your ancestors
00:24:49.280 did,
00:24:49.780 something like
00:24:50.140 that.
00:24:51.080 And you're
00:24:51.600 guilty forever
00:24:53.060 and the stain
00:24:54.500 can never be
00:24:55.240 washed off.
00:24:57.040 That's a big
00:24:57.640 difference,
00:24:58.100 isn't it?
00:24:58.860 Look for that
00:24:59.520 pattern.
00:25:01.180 Republicans
00:25:01.780 and Christians
00:25:03.440 being forgiving
00:25:04.340 of real sins,
00:25:06.060 Democrats being
00:25:06.920 permanently
00:25:07.700 condemning of
00:25:08.860 imaginary sins.
00:25:10.680 That's pretty
00:25:11.180 different.
00:25:12.720 Condemning
00:25:13.200 imaginary sins.
00:25:15.540 Somebody says
00:25:16.260 that Barron
00:25:16.720 tested negative.
00:25:17.780 Well, good.
00:25:18.700 Good for him.
00:25:20.380 But how would
00:25:21.340 you like to be
00:25:21.820 a mother and
00:25:22.320 you can't
00:25:23.180 touch your kid
00:25:24.600 for three weeks
00:25:26.160 or whatever it's
00:25:26.780 going to be?
00:25:27.220 That's pretty
00:25:27.620 tough.
00:25:29.200 I do wish
00:25:29.960 them well.
00:25:30.560 All right.
00:25:30.860 so let's
00:25:37.060 talk about
00:25:37.740 let's talk
00:25:40.800 about some
00:25:41.240 other stuff.
00:25:42.480 My favorite
00:25:43.360 part of the
00:25:44.560 story about
00:25:45.340 the president
00:25:45.940 not condemning
00:25:48.900 white supremacists
00:25:50.000 in the way that
00:25:50.780 people wanted him
00:25:51.520 to do it,
00:25:52.020 in the words
00:25:52.600 that they wanted
00:25:53.180 him to use,
00:25:54.100 was the
00:25:54.800 John Roberts
00:25:55.500 subplot.
00:25:57.780 Did you all
00:25:58.460 catch the
00:25:58.960 John Roberts
00:25:59.700 part of it?
00:26:00.860 So the part
00:26:01.580 you need to
00:26:01.920 know is that
00:26:02.560 John Roberts
00:26:04.020 who works for
00:26:04.680 Fox News,
00:26:05.960 he's married
00:26:06.740 to another
00:26:07.560 journalist,
00:26:08.620 Kyra Phillips
00:26:09.520 who is ABC,
00:26:11.180 I think works
00:26:11.760 for ABC News.
00:26:13.340 And so part
00:26:14.660 of the story
00:26:15.180 is that his
00:26:15.860 wife had asked
00:26:16.980 Trump about
00:26:17.720 the condemning
00:26:19.040 and hadn't
00:26:20.000 gotten quite
00:26:20.600 the crisp
00:26:21.740 exact answer
00:26:22.840 that people
00:26:23.300 were looking
00:26:23.740 for,
00:26:24.320 where he just
00:26:25.000 says it in
00:26:25.480 direct language.
00:26:27.000 So then
00:26:27.920 John Roberts
00:26:28.500 followed up
00:26:29.120 when it was
00:26:29.560 his turn
00:26:30.020 and he
00:26:31.000 asked the
00:26:31.360 same question
00:26:31.900 and he
00:26:32.620 also wasn't
00:26:33.580 getting from,
00:26:34.980 at least he
00:26:35.400 was talking
00:26:35.760 to Kayleigh
00:26:38.000 McEnany,
00:26:38.800 and he
00:26:39.640 wasn't getting
00:26:40.180 from her
00:26:40.840 the exact
00:26:42.420 language that
00:26:43.280 people wanted,
00:26:44.220 direct
00:26:44.800 condemnation.
00:26:46.500 and then
00:26:50.000 finally the
00:26:51.660 president went
00:26:52.340 on Hannity
00:26:54.240 and said
00:26:54.800 the words
00:26:55.220 exactly the
00:26:55.900 way people
00:26:56.300 wanted him
00:26:56.720 to say it.
00:26:57.480 So he
00:26:57.920 finally said
00:26:58.440 the words
00:26:58.800 exactly the
00:26:59.500 way they
00:27:00.220 should.
00:27:00.860 So then
00:27:01.240 John Roberts
00:27:02.340 tweeted that.
00:27:03.500 But the best
00:27:04.320 part of it
00:27:04.800 was how mad
00:27:05.740 he got
00:27:06.340 about the
00:27:07.520 whole situation
00:27:08.280 because I
00:27:11.180 feel as if
00:27:11.900 his professional
00:27:12.820 life and
00:27:13.920 his married
00:27:14.740 life sort
00:27:16.220 of intersected
00:27:17.120 a little bit
00:27:17.580 there and
00:27:18.420 there probably
00:27:18.960 were some
00:27:19.360 conversations at
00:27:20.240 home that
00:27:20.700 were part of
00:27:21.680 the story.
00:27:23.760 My net from
00:27:24.880 this is I
00:27:25.380 ended up liking
00:27:26.060 John Roberts
00:27:26.780 more and I
00:27:28.240 already liked
00:27:28.740 him before.
00:27:29.760 By the way,
00:27:30.260 full disclosure,
00:27:33.180 John Roberts
00:27:33.780 has been in
00:27:34.440 my home.
00:27:35.780 This was years
00:27:36.620 ago.
00:27:37.660 But when he
00:27:38.240 was working
00:27:38.580 for CBS,
00:27:39.320 I think he
00:27:39.860 interviewed me
00:27:40.620 at my home
00:27:41.880 in California.
00:27:44.240 So I spent
00:27:44.840 some time with
00:27:45.340 him.
00:27:45.580 He's a great
00:27:46.020 guy, like
00:27:46.760 terrific guy.
00:27:48.080 You know,
00:27:48.280 you spend time
00:27:48.820 with him,
00:27:49.240 you're going
00:27:49.620 to like him.
00:27:50.700 So watching
00:27:51.440 this gave me
00:27:53.280 a little more
00:27:54.160 extra pleasure
00:27:54.920 just because
00:27:55.360 I'd bet him.
00:27:56.540 So I love
00:27:56.960 that.
00:27:57.960 And the part
00:27:59.780 that made
00:28:00.320 news is when
00:28:01.080 he got angry
00:28:02.720 at, I guess,
00:28:03.960 the public,
00:28:04.660 really.
00:28:05.560 He got angry
00:28:06.400 at the public
00:28:07.100 and other
00:28:07.960 people giving
00:28:08.540 him crap for
00:28:09.480 simply asking
00:28:10.220 the question.
00:28:11.420 Now, did
00:28:11.720 John Roberts
00:28:12.420 go, let's
00:28:14.380 say, did he
00:28:15.840 cross some
00:28:16.460 kind of line
00:28:17.180 by pushing
00:28:18.220 the president
00:28:18.780 for a specific
00:28:19.680 answer?
00:28:20.500 I'd say no.
00:28:21.740 I think he
00:28:22.280 exactly did his
00:28:23.220 job, exactly
00:28:24.600 the way you'd
00:28:25.180 want him to.
00:28:26.060 You want him
00:28:26.600 to push for
00:28:27.100 that answer.
00:28:28.200 You know my
00:28:29.720 part of the
00:28:30.180 story.
00:28:30.520 I was feeling
00:28:31.140 the same thing.
00:28:32.140 So I think
00:28:32.540 he came out
00:28:33.200 but I like
00:28:34.600 the passion
00:28:35.480 he put into
00:28:36.100 it because
00:28:37.140 I think
00:28:37.520 his wife
00:28:39.960 was part
00:28:40.340 of the
00:28:40.540 story.
00:28:41.440 He became
00:28:41.920 part of
00:28:42.260 the story.
00:28:43.360 I just
00:28:43.940 love the
00:28:44.440 human,
00:28:46.080 the anger
00:28:47.380 that he
00:28:48.420 showed on
00:28:48.940 camera was
00:28:50.260 real and I
00:28:51.360 liked it.
00:28:52.440 So good
00:28:53.240 for you,
00:28:53.620 John Roberts.
00:28:54.100 all right.
00:28:57.780 So I guess
00:29:00.060 we have to
00:29:00.480 talk about
00:29:00.960 me, even
00:29:01.600 though it
00:29:01.900 seems as
00:29:02.780 unimportant as
00:29:03.540 anything could
00:29:04.140 be.
00:29:05.900 It seems
00:29:07.620 very unimportant
00:29:08.460 now.
00:29:09.440 I swear it was
00:29:10.340 the weirdest
00:29:10.660 thing.
00:29:11.160 So just in
00:29:12.120 case you don't
00:29:12.520 know the
00:29:12.820 story, after
00:29:14.900 the debate, I
00:29:16.900 was very
00:29:17.380 disappointed with
00:29:18.140 the president's
00:29:19.080 answer about
00:29:20.140 white supremacy.
00:29:20.960 I don't have
00:29:22.340 any doubt in
00:29:23.020 my mind that
00:29:23.920 he has
00:29:24.360 condemned it
00:29:25.040 many times in
00:29:25.800 the past.
00:29:26.780 I don't have
00:29:27.280 any doubt in
00:29:27.860 my mind that
00:29:28.520 he condemned
00:29:29.100 it that night
00:29:29.920 in weak
00:29:31.260 language, but
00:29:31.940 he certainly
00:29:32.320 condemned it.
00:29:32.960 It was
00:29:33.160 unambiguous, but
00:29:34.860 it was a
00:29:35.720 weak statement,
00:29:37.080 but it was
00:29:37.760 clear.
00:29:38.620 Clear but
00:29:39.300 weak.
00:29:40.460 And so I
00:29:41.260 don't have any
00:29:41.840 uncertainty about
00:29:44.040 what the
00:29:44.380 president thinks
00:29:45.300 or what he
00:29:46.200 would do in
00:29:46.660 the future.
00:29:48.720 But I
00:29:49.560 too, like
00:29:50.360 the rest of
00:29:50.780 the country
00:29:51.140 felt a little
00:29:51.840 bit, a
00:29:53.060 little bit
00:29:53.380 tweaked, like
00:29:54.520 a lot of
00:29:54.880 people, that
00:29:56.260 he couldn't
00:29:56.780 just say it
00:29:57.660 the way we
00:29:58.120 wanted him to
00:29:58.700 say it.
00:29:59.420 I will give
00:30:00.160 you a couple
00:30:00.920 of theories as
00:30:02.580 to why I
00:30:03.260 think he
00:30:04.520 doesn't answer
00:30:05.180 it the way
00:30:05.580 you wanted
00:30:06.020 him to answer
00:30:06.600 it.
00:30:07.260 Are you
00:30:07.480 ready?
00:30:08.600 Number one,
00:30:09.540 in persuasion,
00:30:11.060 and of course
00:30:11.660 what the
00:30:12.000 president is
00:30:12.560 doing all
00:30:13.040 the time is
00:30:13.540 persuading.
00:30:14.480 He's
00:30:14.900 negotiating, he's
00:30:16.120 persuading, he's
00:30:17.460 cajoling, he's
00:30:18.480 selling, all the
00:30:20.220 time, would
00:30:20.900 you agree
00:30:21.380 that that's
00:30:21.960 true?
00:30:22.660 That the
00:30:23.000 president is
00:30:23.760 always in
00:30:24.460 persuasion
00:30:25.120 mode, all
00:30:26.200 the time, that's
00:30:27.340 his job.
00:30:28.440 That's who he
00:30:29.140 is by
00:30:29.460 personality, but
00:30:31.200 on top of
00:30:31.740 that, that's
00:30:32.280 exactly his
00:30:32.940 job, he
00:30:33.500 should be
00:30:34.040 persuading all
00:30:34.940 the time.
00:30:36.340 Here's a
00:30:36.940 rule of
00:30:37.420 persuasion that
00:30:38.160 you might not
00:30:38.800 be aware of,
00:30:39.960 and one of
00:30:40.420 the reasons
00:30:40.780 that I say
00:30:41.300 you should
00:30:41.600 build your
00:30:42.080 talent stack
00:30:42.900 is so that
00:30:43.840 you can see
00:30:44.440 the world
00:30:44.820 through more
00:30:45.340 windows if
00:30:46.640 you have more
00:30:47.080 skills, it
00:30:47.920 just allows
00:30:48.380 you to see
00:30:49.400 the world a
00:30:49.920 little more
00:30:50.280 cleanly.
00:30:51.520 If you had
00:30:52.400 skill, let's
00:30:53.780 say you had
00:30:54.220 learned and
00:30:55.080 trained to be
00:30:56.320 a salesperson,
00:30:58.180 or trained in
00:30:59.700 psychology, trained
00:31:01.320 in persuasion, if
00:31:02.740 you had trained in
00:31:03.460 any of those
00:31:03.960 fields, here's
00:31:04.780 something you
00:31:05.260 would know that
00:31:06.440 other people
00:31:07.040 wouldn't necessarily
00:31:07.860 know, and it
00:31:09.380 goes like this.
00:31:10.640 If you are
00:31:11.440 trying to persuade
00:31:12.320 somebody, the
00:31:13.540 best thing you
00:31:14.240 can do, a
00:31:15.100 really good thing
00:31:15.760 to do, like
00:31:16.460 it's powerful, is
00:31:18.040 get them to do
00:31:18.820 something small
00:31:19.780 that primes them
00:31:21.560 to later do
00:31:22.360 something big,
00:31:23.140 which is the
00:31:23.640 real thing you
00:31:24.160 want.
00:31:25.320 So, if you're
00:31:27.060 in a negotiating
00:31:28.380 contest, or
00:31:29.600 you're trying to
00:31:32.080 be the alpha
00:31:32.900 in the room,
00:31:34.200 here's what you
00:31:34.880 never want to
00:31:35.780 do.
00:31:36.640 You never want
00:31:37.420 to do exactly
00:31:38.620 what somebody
00:31:39.740 else asked you
00:31:40.700 or is trying
00:31:41.760 to force you
00:31:42.380 to do.
00:31:43.080 If you give
00:31:44.060 a little bit,
00:31:45.760 on anything
00:31:46.540 at all, it
00:31:47.760 makes it easier
00:31:48.480 for them to
00:31:48.980 get more.
00:31:49.900 They'll
00:31:50.120 immediately
00:31:50.520 double down.
00:31:51.180 Ah, he
00:31:52.140 moved an
00:31:52.600 inch, he
00:31:53.440 moved an
00:31:53.940 inch.
00:31:54.620 Look, we
00:31:55.760 got him to
00:31:56.340 say the
00:31:56.700 words that
00:31:57.220 we told
00:31:57.680 him to
00:31:58.000 say.
00:31:58.520 Look, his
00:31:59.020 mouth is
00:31:59.480 moving, and
00:32:00.780 the words he's
00:32:01.520 using are
00:32:02.960 our words.
00:32:04.320 Look what we
00:32:04.920 did.
00:32:05.460 We turned
00:32:05.940 him into our
00:32:06.520 puppet in a
00:32:07.480 small way,
00:32:08.540 very small
00:32:09.140 way.
00:32:09.640 All we did
00:32:10.160 was get him
00:32:10.640 to say the
00:32:11.220 words exactly
00:32:12.680 the way we
00:32:13.280 wanted them to
00:32:13.920 be said.
00:32:14.460 If you
00:32:15.640 can get
00:32:16.080 somebody to
00:32:16.660 do something
00:32:17.300 small like
00:32:18.540 that, and
00:32:19.840 here's the
00:32:20.260 key, something
00:32:21.800 that looks
00:32:22.280 completely
00:32:22.940 reasonable.
00:32:24.740 Don't you
00:32:25.200 think it's
00:32:25.740 100% reasonable
00:32:26.900 to ask the
00:32:27.640 president of the
00:32:28.200 United States
00:32:28.780 to disavow
00:32:30.060 white supremacists?
00:32:31.980 Totally reasonable.
00:32:33.280 That's the most
00:32:33.860 reasonable, small
00:32:35.660 thing you could
00:32:36.260 ever ask for
00:32:36.880 somebody.
00:32:38.240 If you didn't
00:32:39.400 understand this
00:32:40.340 field, you
00:32:42.040 would say to
00:32:42.460 yourself, oh,
00:32:43.560 well, that's
00:32:43.940 very small,
00:32:45.060 it's very
00:32:45.560 reasonable, of
00:32:47.120 course I'm
00:32:47.560 going to do
00:32:47.900 it.
00:32:48.640 And then you
00:32:49.040 just do it.
00:32:49.980 And you
00:32:50.440 would have
00:32:50.700 given somebody
00:32:51.520 a little bit
00:32:52.120 of something,
00:32:52.860 and you
00:32:53.240 would have
00:32:53.520 lost ground.
00:32:55.700 You might
00:32:56.340 not feel it,
00:32:57.620 but it would
00:32:58.180 have been a
00:32:58.600 persuasion
00:32:59.160 mistake.
00:33:01.360 Now, in
00:33:02.220 my opinion,
00:33:03.500 there's one
00:33:04.180 exception to
00:33:05.220 this rule.
00:33:06.800 The one
00:33:07.500 exception where
00:33:08.760 you should just
00:33:09.420 do what you're
00:33:10.240 asked is this
00:33:11.860 one, this
00:33:12.960 exact situation.
00:33:14.800 If somebody
00:33:15.420 asks you as
00:33:16.360 president to
00:33:17.660 disavow white
00:33:18.540 supremacists, this
00:33:19.900 is the one
00:33:20.440 time I recommend
00:33:21.520 that you just
00:33:22.740 say, oh,
00:33:23.660 crap, I'm
00:33:24.920 going to have
00:33:25.260 to actually do
00:33:25.940 this exactly
00:33:27.140 the way they
00:33:27.720 want.
00:33:28.420 Of course, I
00:33:28.900 want to anyway.
00:33:29.860 It's not like I
00:33:30.660 resist the idea
00:33:31.760 of it.
00:33:32.360 I just don't
00:33:33.020 want to do what
00:33:33.900 you want me to
00:33:34.720 do.
00:33:35.280 So here's the
00:33:36.000 first thing I'm
00:33:36.780 going to try.
00:33:38.180 The first thing
00:33:39.140 I'm going to
00:33:39.540 try is to
00:33:41.020 say it my
00:33:41.560 way.
00:33:43.120 Right?
00:33:43.860 Because you're
00:33:44.440 going to try to
00:33:44.940 weasel the
00:33:45.480 situation.
00:33:46.280 You're going to
00:33:46.540 try to say,
00:33:47.100 okay, I'm
00:33:48.240 not going to
00:33:48.680 say it the
00:33:49.120 way you want
00:33:49.840 only because
00:33:50.560 you're the
00:33:51.000 one telling
00:33:51.400 me to do
00:33:51.840 it.
00:33:52.140 It has
00:33:52.520 nothing to
00:33:53.020 do with
00:33:53.340 the thing
00:33:54.520 you want
00:33:54.860 me to
00:33:55.080 say.
00:33:55.720 I'm not
00:33:56.320 editing or
00:33:57.100 judging the
00:33:58.160 content of
00:33:58.920 what you
00:33:59.200 want me to
00:33:59.580 say.
00:33:59.900 I'm only
00:34:00.260 judging that
00:34:00.800 you're telling
00:34:01.240 me to say
00:34:01.720 it.
00:34:02.380 And that
00:34:02.880 disqualifies it
00:34:04.400 from me being
00:34:05.240 able to say
00:34:05.640 it.
00:34:06.560 So instead,
00:34:07.320 I'm going to
00:34:07.840 try to sell
00:34:08.460 you my
00:34:09.180 version.
00:34:10.000 And it
00:34:10.200 goes like
00:34:10.640 this.
00:34:11.700 I oppose
00:34:12.400 all violent
00:34:13.540 groups, but
00:34:14.080 I think
00:34:14.320 most of it
00:34:14.780 comes from
00:34:15.180 the left,
00:34:16.640 which is
00:34:17.320 what he
00:34:17.580 did.
00:34:18.900 So he
00:34:19.560 tried to
00:34:20.140 avoid one
00:34:21.780 of the
00:34:22.020 biggest
00:34:22.440 mistakes you
00:34:25.120 could make
00:34:25.480 in persuasion,
00:34:26.260 which is
00:34:26.500 take somebody
00:34:27.040 else's frame
00:34:27.740 and just
00:34:28.540 be their
00:34:28.900 puppet,
00:34:29.360 even on a
00:34:29.840 small thing.
00:34:31.280 Now,
00:34:32.120 in my
00:34:33.120 opinion,
00:34:33.480 that was
00:34:34.860 an error
00:34:35.560 because he
00:34:37.360 still should
00:34:37.840 have just
00:34:38.160 done it
00:34:38.760 and he
00:34:40.160 should have
00:34:40.780 minimized it.
00:34:42.420 He could
00:34:43.060 have minimized
00:34:43.800 it away.
00:34:44.340 That's the
00:34:44.600 way I would
00:34:44.960 have played
00:34:45.200 it.
00:34:45.400 I would
00:34:45.580 have said,
00:34:46.320 obviously,
00:34:46.980 of course,
00:34:47.320 everybody condemns
00:34:48.060 white supremacy,
00:34:48.880 so do I,
00:34:49.560 and then go
00:34:50.080 right into
00:34:50.660 Antifa.
00:34:51.920 Just give
00:34:53.020 it a clear,
00:34:55.140 distinct
00:34:55.600 statement,
00:34:56.480 but really
00:34:57.060 small.
00:34:57.880 Just compress
00:34:58.560 it down
00:34:58.900 and say,
00:34:59.700 everybody,
00:35:00.620 including me,
00:35:01.680 disavows
00:35:02.180 white supremacy,
00:35:03.480 but let's
00:35:03.760 talk about
00:35:04.180 Antifa,
00:35:05.200 and then just
00:35:05.720 do a whole
00:35:06.120 big Antifa
00:35:06.780 thing.
00:35:07.960 That's how I
00:35:08.640 would have
00:35:08.840 played it.
00:35:09.200 So it was
00:35:09.520 a mistake,
00:35:10.640 but in my
00:35:11.320 opinion,
00:35:11.980 it had to
00:35:12.560 do with
00:35:13.020 not wanting
00:35:13.520 to be
00:35:14.000 pushed,
00:35:15.100 and that
00:35:15.460 was the
00:35:15.980 right instinct,
00:35:16.960 just maybe
00:35:17.340 the wrong
00:35:17.680 time for
00:35:18.140 it.
00:35:20.620 The other
00:35:21.540 possibility,
00:35:22.420 which I
00:35:22.720 mentioned before,
00:35:23.620 but I'll
00:35:23.840 just put it
00:35:24.260 here for
00:35:24.660 completeness,
00:35:25.820 is that
00:35:26.240 anybody who's
00:35:26.860 trained in
00:35:27.520 media,
00:35:28.560 stuff,
00:35:29.500 and that
00:35:29.740 would include
00:35:30.240 me.
00:35:31.140 So I
00:35:31.540 actually had
00:35:32.160 an actual
00:35:32.880 expert sit
00:35:33.900 with me for
00:35:34.540 half a day
00:35:35.140 and train
00:35:36.160 me how to
00:35:36.860 handle media
00:35:37.660 situations.
00:35:38.900 You think
00:35:39.400 it's easy?
00:35:40.360 It's not.
00:35:41.580 Here's what
00:35:42.100 you have to
00:35:42.580 do if you're
00:35:43.660 being interviewed
00:35:44.360 by the media.
00:35:45.580 You need to
00:35:46.260 listen to the
00:35:46.960 question,
00:35:48.200 often while the
00:35:49.380 camera is running,
00:35:50.280 so there's extra
00:35:50.880 pressure,
00:35:51.720 so you're
00:35:52.000 listening for
00:35:52.480 the question,
00:35:53.560 you're formulating
00:35:54.400 your answer to
00:35:55.080 the question,
00:35:55.980 but then there's
00:35:56.560 another layer on
00:35:57.580 top of that,
00:35:58.180 and here's
00:35:58.800 the trouble
00:35:59.240 part.
00:36:00.160 The extra
00:36:00.840 layer is,
00:36:01.560 you have to
00:36:01.960 say to
00:36:02.220 yourself,
00:36:02.820 how could
00:36:03.560 they misconstrue
00:36:04.720 this answer?
00:36:06.020 What are all
00:36:06.660 the ways this
00:36:07.440 could be taken
00:36:08.080 out of context?
00:36:09.740 And so here's
00:36:10.500 one of the
00:36:10.980 things that you
00:36:11.520 would not want
00:36:12.160 to do if you've
00:36:13.140 been trained in
00:36:14.020 media stuff.
00:36:15.000 You would not
00:36:15.720 want to start a
00:36:16.620 statement where
00:36:18.040 the first part of
00:36:19.100 it could be
00:36:19.720 misleading if taken
00:36:20.860 out of context,
00:36:22.000 and then add the
00:36:23.180 clarification at the
00:36:24.320 end.
00:36:24.600 that's a trap.
00:36:26.660 Do you know
00:36:27.040 why?
00:36:28.140 You've seen it
00:36:28.860 a hundred times.
00:36:30.200 The news will
00:36:31.160 simply clip off the
00:36:32.420 second part of your
00:36:33.180 statement, as they
00:36:34.620 did, with the
00:36:35.840 fine people hoax.
00:36:37.440 And then sometimes
00:36:38.240 they'll clip off the
00:36:39.280 front part of the
00:36:39.980 statement, as they
00:36:41.360 did, with the
00:36:43.440 injecting bleach.
00:36:45.420 Because if they cut
00:36:46.480 off the part about
00:36:47.120 he was talking about
00:36:47.880 light as a
00:36:48.680 disinfectant, and
00:36:49.980 then they cut off
00:36:50.560 the end of it,
00:36:51.780 where he went back
00:36:52.620 to make sure
00:36:53.180 that you knew
00:36:53.620 he was talking
00:36:54.080 about light.
00:36:55.260 So, you have to
00:36:56.700 think in terms of
00:36:57.560 an answer, while
00:36:58.880 you're on camera,
00:37:00.180 while the question
00:37:01.060 is being asked,
00:37:01.980 maybe a complicated
00:37:02.840 question, you're
00:37:04.040 thinking about your
00:37:04.700 answer, and then
00:37:05.700 you're thinking of
00:37:06.320 the structure of
00:37:07.100 the answer, so it
00:37:08.200 can't be dissembled.
00:37:10.440 It's not freaking
00:37:11.680 easy.
00:37:13.740 There's a reason
00:37:14.760 that there are not
00:37:16.200 many President
00:37:16.960 Trumps.
00:37:18.180 You see how
00:37:18.980 good he is on
00:37:19.900 camera, usually.
00:37:20.780 It's rare.
00:37:23.260 It's really hard
00:37:24.040 to do that stuff,
00:37:25.280 because there's
00:37:25.780 just way too
00:37:27.060 much thinking
00:37:27.640 going on.
00:37:28.500 Now, have I
00:37:28.940 made this mistake
00:37:29.740 before?
00:37:30.200 Yes, I have.
00:37:31.120 Let me give you
00:37:31.660 an example of
00:37:33.020 how to answer
00:37:33.700 a question about
00:37:35.580 your parents.
00:37:37.840 Let's say you're
00:37:38.440 a famous person,
00:37:39.380 you're me, and
00:37:40.380 the interviewer
00:37:41.180 says on camera,
00:37:42.600 Scott, what
00:37:44.000 about your
00:37:45.300 mom and dad?
00:37:46.300 Tell me about,
00:37:47.680 tell me what
00:37:48.200 they were like.
00:37:49.260 my parents
00:37:51.400 are both
00:37:51.780 deceased, but
00:37:52.920 imagine they're
00:37:53.500 both alive, and
00:37:55.160 they ask me on
00:37:55.900 camera, tell me
00:37:56.540 about your
00:37:57.580 parents.
00:37:58.560 Here is the
00:37:59.480 wrong answer.
00:38:01.100 Anything.
00:38:02.180 Everything you
00:38:02.820 say about your
00:38:03.580 own parents will
00:38:04.860 be taken out of
00:38:05.660 context, and
00:38:06.740 will be used
00:38:07.360 against you, and
00:38:08.420 your parents are
00:38:09.060 going to pick up
00:38:10.040 a newspaper, and
00:38:10.760 they're going to
00:38:11.080 say, he said
00:38:13.760 that about his
00:38:14.520 parents, it will
00:38:15.580 be out of
00:38:16.180 context, and it
00:38:17.940 will look terrible.
00:38:19.340 So here's how
00:38:20.020 you answer the
00:38:20.680 question about
00:38:21.520 your parents, as
00:38:22.840 I have, actually, a
00:38:24.460 number of times, but
00:38:25.760 not until I did it
00:38:26.520 the wrong way
00:38:27.060 first.
00:38:27.940 I had to learn
00:38:28.720 this the hard
00:38:29.180 way.
00:38:29.800 Scott, can you
00:38:30.440 tell us about
00:38:30.860 your parents?
00:38:32.260 It was very
00:38:32.820 average.
00:38:34.440 It was just a
00:38:35.020 normal, totally
00:38:36.440 normal situation.
00:38:37.640 Well, can you
00:38:38.020 tell us more?
00:38:39.260 Can you give us
00:38:39.820 some detail?
00:38:41.220 So yeah, my
00:38:41.860 father worked for
00:38:43.140 the post office.
00:38:43.860 Yeah, and my, you
00:38:47.880 know, it was a
00:38:48.740 very normal
00:38:49.200 upbringing, and
00:38:50.040 very average.
00:38:51.120 Everything was
00:38:51.640 completely average
00:38:52.540 and normal, and
00:38:54.200 we loved each
00:38:54.780 other.
00:38:56.120 That's the only
00:38:57.080 way to answer
00:38:57.740 that question.
00:38:59.060 Everything else
00:39:00.020 you say about it
00:39:00.940 can be misconstrued
00:39:02.540 into an insult to
00:39:03.540 your parents, and
00:39:04.540 if you think that's
00:39:05.320 not real, that it
00:39:06.740 wouldn't turn into
00:39:07.400 an insult to your
00:39:08.240 parents, you
00:39:09.140 haven't taken media
00:39:10.300 training, and you
00:39:11.080 haven't done this for
00:39:11.900 a living, as I
00:39:12.720 have, you can't
00:39:14.080 say anything about
00:39:15.280 a topic that
00:39:16.480 could be taken
00:39:17.240 out of context.
00:39:18.940 So, when the
00:39:19.960 president was asked
00:39:20.820 first by Jake
00:39:21.680 Tapper in the
00:39:22.560 first election to
00:39:24.940 disavow the KKK,
00:39:26.940 and he paused, and
00:39:28.380 he asked for
00:39:28.920 clarification, what
00:39:30.660 was actually going
00:39:31.740 on in his mind?
00:39:33.460 We don't know.
00:39:34.480 We can't read
00:39:35.220 minds.
00:39:35.980 That's crazy.
00:39:37.040 I can't read his
00:39:37.740 mind, but I'll
00:39:38.880 tell you that with
00:39:39.640 similar training and
00:39:40.900 experience of
00:39:41.780 being interviewed,
00:39:42.680 if I had received
00:39:43.920 that question, I
00:39:45.300 would be thinking
00:39:45.920 ahead, what are
00:39:47.140 they going to do
00:39:47.640 with it, and I
00:39:48.840 would have thought
00:39:49.400 this, what are
00:39:51.280 they going to ask
00:39:51.840 me after this?
00:39:53.520 That's the media
00:39:54.900 training.
00:39:55.840 The media training
00:39:56.580 would say, where
00:39:57.360 is this going?
00:39:58.640 It's not a question
00:39:59.740 about the question.
00:40:01.380 The question is,
00:40:02.240 where is this
00:40:02.560 going?
00:40:03.480 And here's where
00:40:04.100 it would go.
00:40:04.740 Do you disavow
00:40:06.140 the KKK?
00:40:07.080 Absolutely.
00:40:08.320 Easy question.
00:40:09.380 Disavow the KKK.
00:40:10.280 Do you disavow
00:40:11.660 David Duke?
00:40:12.700 Easy question.
00:40:14.220 Yup.
00:40:15.100 Disavow them.
00:40:16.260 Do you disavow
00:40:17.060 white supremacists?
00:40:18.540 Yes.
00:40:19.600 Yes, of course I
00:40:20.500 do.
00:40:21.060 Disavow them.
00:40:22.100 Do you disavow
00:40:22.800 the Proud Boys?
00:40:25.760 I'm not sure
00:40:26.660 exactly what they
00:40:27.440 do.
00:40:30.180 Are they, are
00:40:31.960 they, what are
00:40:34.180 they?
00:40:34.420 are the Proud
00:40:36.000 Boys white
00:40:37.100 supremacists?
00:40:38.560 Because they're
00:40:39.460 being accused of
00:40:40.300 that.
00:40:41.520 And Gavin
00:40:42.380 McGinnis is, you
00:40:44.240 know, one of the
00:40:44.620 founders, is suing
00:40:45.900 CNN and others
00:40:48.520 for saying that.
00:40:49.520 Joe Biden, I guess,
00:40:50.520 for saying that.
00:40:51.680 And they have a
00:40:53.040 multi-ethnic
00:40:54.280 membership.
00:40:56.400 That's right.
00:40:57.440 They have a
00:40:57.960 multi-ethnic
00:40:58.820 membership.
00:41:00.440 One of their
00:41:01.100 leaders is a
00:41:02.300 black Cuban or
00:41:03.500 something.
00:41:04.480 And, you know,
00:41:05.360 you've seen the
00:41:05.800 pictures.
00:41:06.500 They have
00:41:06.820 African-American
00:41:07.560 members.
00:41:09.300 But they have
00:41:10.900 been accused of
00:41:13.400 being white
00:41:13.840 supremacists.
00:41:15.180 So now you're
00:41:15.900 the president.
00:41:17.380 What do you
00:41:17.800 do?
00:41:18.900 Do you disavow
00:41:20.040 them just to be
00:41:22.860 clean, just to
00:41:24.500 make sure it
00:41:25.580 doesn't affect
00:41:26.180 you?
00:41:26.800 Because if you
00:41:27.620 do, there are
00:41:28.320 going to be a
00:41:28.640 whole lot of
00:41:29.040 people who say,
00:41:30.160 wait a minute,
00:41:31.680 I think you just
00:41:32.440 disavowed
00:41:33.280 law-abiding
00:41:35.500 Americans.
00:41:37.200 I think that's a
00:41:38.160 little too far.
00:41:39.700 Look at the
00:41:40.320 comments.
00:41:40.900 Some people are
00:41:41.540 saying that they
00:41:42.240 are best described
00:41:43.280 as patriots.
00:41:45.060 Now, I'm not
00:41:46.220 going to give you
00:41:46.780 an opinion of
00:41:47.760 what I think the
00:41:48.680 Proud Boys are,
00:41:49.900 because I don't
00:41:50.700 think they're one
00:41:51.300 thing.
00:41:52.200 I think it's a
00:41:52.920 bunch of people
00:41:53.480 who have some
00:41:54.060 things in common,
00:41:55.020 like they want to
00:41:55.960 be part of this
00:41:56.660 group.
00:41:57.580 They like America.
00:41:58.940 They have that in
00:41:59.800 common.
00:42:00.380 They seem to be
00:42:01.060 chauvinistic.
00:42:01.700 They seem to
00:42:02.460 be sort of
00:42:03.460 male-dominated
00:42:04.880 kind of thinking.
00:42:07.040 Now, you could
00:42:08.020 condemn them maybe
00:42:08.880 for some of those
00:42:09.660 other things,
00:42:11.180 but here's my
00:42:12.380 point.
00:42:13.600 The moment the
00:42:14.660 president starts
00:42:15.520 condemning, the
00:42:16.780 easy ones come
00:42:17.740 first, but it
00:42:19.260 guarantees that he's
00:42:20.620 going to go down
00:42:21.220 the line until he
00:42:22.640 gets to something
00:42:23.320 like this.
00:42:24.580 Do you condemn
00:42:25.340 Breitbart?
00:42:27.580 Right?
00:42:28.100 Because, in my
00:42:30.200 opinion, Breitbart
00:42:30.960 has nothing to
00:42:31.760 apologize for.
00:42:33.100 At least, I've
00:42:33.640 never seen anything
00:42:34.300 that was over the
00:42:34.980 line.
00:42:35.900 But other people
00:42:36.940 think so.
00:42:38.080 If other people
00:42:39.200 believe or are
00:42:40.640 willing to accuse
00:42:41.600 some entity of
00:42:43.860 being whatever,
00:42:45.740 does the president
00:42:46.460 have to disavow
00:42:47.820 everybody until he's
00:42:48.840 disavowed his
00:42:49.560 entire base?
00:42:50.920 So that's the
00:42:51.940 trap.
00:42:52.540 And you saw the
00:42:53.100 president in the
00:42:53.920 debate do exactly
00:42:55.340 the same thing he
00:42:56.280 did with the
00:42:57.720 Jake Tapper
00:42:58.300 KKK thing.
00:42:59.680 He paused.
00:43:00.900 You could tell
00:43:01.400 there was a
00:43:01.900 thought process
00:43:02.580 going on.
00:43:04.040 Probably that
00:43:04.820 thought process is
00:43:05.780 where does this
00:43:06.380 go?
00:43:07.040 I think he was
00:43:07.820 thinking as many
00:43:09.120 chess moves in
00:43:10.020 advance as he
00:43:10.840 could, and
00:43:11.700 like, am I going
00:43:12.360 to get myself in
00:43:13.060 a trap here?
00:43:14.120 Because if
00:43:14.980 possible, I would
00:43:16.340 like to not
00:43:16.880 disavow anybody
00:43:17.900 who would vote
00:43:18.440 for me.
00:43:19.180 Just period.
00:43:20.360 I'd prefer not
00:43:21.360 to disavow anybody
00:43:22.560 if they could vote
00:43:23.760 for me.
00:43:24.480 So I think that's
00:43:25.540 all that went
00:43:25.920 on.
00:43:26.280 Now, what is
00:43:28.800 my level of
00:43:29.600 certainty that
00:43:31.020 the real problem
00:43:31.840 was that?
00:43:33.960 He was just
00:43:34.440 thinking about
00:43:34.980 his best answer.
00:43:36.500 The answer is
00:43:37.000 there's no way
00:43:37.540 to know what
00:43:37.960 anybody's thinking.
00:43:39.400 I'm just saying
00:43:40.160 that if your
00:43:40.900 interpretation was
00:43:42.700 that the only
00:43:43.700 explanation is
00:43:45.260 that he was
00:43:45.820 winking to
00:43:46.780 racists while
00:43:48.520 running for
00:43:49.100 president, I
00:43:50.460 think that's
00:43:51.100 crazy.
00:43:52.800 In my opinion,
00:43:54.580 the least likely
00:43:56.020 explanation of
00:43:57.040 what was going
00:43:57.600 on is that
00:43:58.720 he was thinking
00:43:59.280 to himself,
00:44:00.540 how can I
00:44:01.620 pretend to
00:44:03.420 sort of
00:44:03.900 disavow them
00:44:04.720 while winking
00:44:05.840 at the same
00:44:06.440 time?
00:44:07.580 I think that
00:44:08.380 is the
00:44:09.140 dumbest
00:44:09.740 interpretation
00:44:10.620 because it
00:44:12.140 sort of assumes
00:44:12.840 a low-functioning
00:44:14.160 person as
00:44:14.920 president, right?
00:44:16.080 He's not
00:44:16.920 low-functioning.
00:44:18.080 That would just
00:44:18.860 be a dumb
00:44:19.560 strategy.
00:44:20.180 And I
00:44:21.320 don't think
00:44:21.900 there's evidence
00:44:22.840 that he
00:44:23.180 would do
00:44:23.480 something that
00:44:24.200 dumb.
00:44:24.740 That's pretty
00:44:25.160 dumb.
00:44:28.320 Somebody says
00:44:29.120 Proud Boys is
00:44:29.920 an idea.
00:44:31.860 Yeah, Joe
00:44:32.380 Biden said that
00:44:33.060 Antifa is an
00:44:33.940 idea and not
00:44:35.360 an organization.
00:44:36.520 That's pretty
00:44:37.220 funny.
00:44:37.760 Yeah, the Proud
00:44:38.200 Boys, it's just
00:44:38.780 a concept.
00:44:40.140 It's not even an
00:44:40.960 organization.
00:44:42.820 It's not an
00:44:43.360 organization.
00:44:43.920 It's just an
00:44:44.460 idea.
00:44:45.760 See if anybody
00:44:46.380 buys that.
00:44:46.960 All right, so
00:44:48.920 that said, I
00:44:50.880 was so
00:44:51.200 disappointed with
00:44:51.860 the president's
00:44:52.580 answer, the
00:44:55.860 inadequacy of
00:44:56.800 it during the
00:44:57.380 debate, that
00:44:58.800 I said that I
00:45:00.100 would withdraw
00:45:00.700 my vote for
00:45:02.220 the president.
00:45:03.120 Now, here's
00:45:03.680 the funny part.
00:45:05.180 If you've been
00:45:05.900 watching me for
00:45:06.560 a while, I
00:45:07.740 think the people
00:45:08.260 who have been
00:45:08.540 watching me the
00:45:09.100 longest were
00:45:09.700 probably on to
00:45:11.600 this early.
00:45:13.260 My vote for
00:45:14.740 president doesn't
00:45:16.240 have any
00:45:16.880 functional value
00:45:17.940 because I live
00:45:19.040 in California.
00:45:19.980 There isn't any
00:45:21.020 reasonable chance
00:45:22.060 that my vote in
00:45:23.580 California will
00:45:24.440 make any
00:45:25.020 difference to the
00:45:25.720 presidency.
00:45:26.700 So if I say I
00:45:27.780 am voting for
00:45:28.580 him or I'm
00:45:29.320 not, it
00:45:30.360 doesn't have a
00:45:31.080 functional purpose
00:45:32.040 as in getting
00:45:33.700 elected or not.
00:45:35.060 It only has a
00:45:35.980 symbolic importance.
00:45:38.000 And if something
00:45:38.480 is only symbolic,
00:45:40.600 you can move it
00:45:41.440 around and you
00:45:42.180 can do whatever
00:45:42.700 you want to
00:45:43.720 make a point
00:45:44.280 with it.
00:45:45.080 So when I say
00:45:45.820 I'm voting for
00:45:46.860 or not voting
00:45:47.580 for the
00:45:48.240 president from
00:45:49.160 the perspective
00:45:49.860 of a Californian
00:45:50.740 is purely
00:45:51.940 symbolic.
00:45:53.500 Now, what
00:45:54.480 happened when
00:45:55.500 I said that I
00:45:56.240 would not vote
00:45:57.100 for the
00:45:57.400 president?
00:45:58.560 Was I aware
00:45:59.760 that that might
00:46:01.100 get some
00:46:01.580 attention?
00:46:03.700 Yes, I
00:46:04.340 was.
00:46:05.480 Not my
00:46:06.080 first rodeo.
00:46:07.820 It's not the
00:46:09.340 first time.
00:46:11.360 It's not the
00:46:12.320 first time I've
00:46:13.180 dealt with the
00:46:13.880 media.
00:46:14.600 So of course I
00:46:15.480 knew that if I
00:46:16.560 did a dog
00:46:18.520 bites man
00:46:19.200 story, that it
00:46:20.500 would be a
00:46:21.780 big deal.
00:46:22.740 Sure enough,
00:46:24.080 within a day,
00:46:25.720 I'm trending
00:46:26.380 on Twitter.
00:46:27.640 So the two of
00:46:28.740 the top trending
00:46:29.680 terms yesterday
00:46:30.560 were my name
00:46:32.160 and Dilbert
00:46:33.160 separately at the
00:46:34.040 same time.
00:46:35.340 I think Max
00:46:36.120 Boot might have
00:46:37.060 been the first
00:46:37.580 one to tweet
00:46:38.440 my video where I
00:46:39.480 was saying I
00:46:39.900 wasn't going to
00:46:40.340 vote for the
00:46:40.940 president and
00:46:42.360 that got it
00:46:44.080 into the left
00:46:44.900 hemisphere,
00:46:46.380 new silo,
00:46:47.500 and then what
00:46:48.400 happened?
00:46:51.100 Then what
00:46:51.660 happened?
00:46:53.120 Now, so the
00:46:54.480 first question you
00:46:55.140 ask yourself is,
00:46:56.340 did I know
00:46:57.220 that it would
00:46:58.260 cause a
00:46:59.080 minor flurry
00:47:01.800 of attention?
00:47:04.140 Yes, of
00:47:04.820 course.
00:47:05.640 The basic
00:47:06.680 rule is that if
00:47:07.640 you act against
00:47:08.880 type and you're
00:47:10.400 a public figure
00:47:11.220 of any kind
00:47:11.780 and you do
00:47:12.600 something that
00:47:13.200 people don't
00:47:13.760 expect you to
00:47:14.480 do, that's
00:47:15.620 news.
00:47:16.540 So when I said
00:47:17.400 I wasn't going
00:47:17.920 to vote for
00:47:18.340 the president,
00:47:19.360 the only reason
00:47:20.420 I said that is
00:47:21.660 for the effect,
00:47:23.080 right?
00:47:24.260 Because it would
00:47:25.080 be this provocative
00:47:26.580 if it gets your
00:47:27.180 attention.
00:47:28.080 Now, I did want
00:47:29.400 to get the
00:47:29.760 attention of both
00:47:30.640 the left and
00:47:31.940 the right,
00:47:32.420 which is very
00:47:32.880 hard.
00:47:33.480 It's really easy
00:47:34.200 to get the
00:47:34.640 attention of the
00:47:35.360 right if you're
00:47:36.300 in the right
00:47:36.760 and the left
00:47:37.980 if you're in
00:47:38.480 the left.
00:47:38.860 What it's
00:47:39.820 hard to do
00:47:40.480 is if you're
00:47:41.740 associated with
00:47:42.740 the right,
00:47:43.660 as I am,
00:47:44.860 it's hard to
00:47:45.680 get any
00:47:46.100 attention on
00:47:47.520 the left,
00:47:48.860 unless you
00:47:50.500 do something
00:47:51.120 that looks
00:47:51.580 like a giant
00:47:52.940 news story,
00:47:54.300 at which point
00:47:55.340 all the
00:47:55.940 attention from
00:47:56.600 the left
00:47:57.060 comes pouring
00:47:58.340 in.
00:47:59.320 Now, what I
00:47:59.880 didn't fully
00:48:00.600 anticipate is
00:48:01.700 how ugly it
00:48:02.460 would be.
00:48:03.440 Now, I assume
00:48:04.220 that when you
00:48:04.740 get attention
00:48:05.280 from the left,
00:48:06.300 a lot of it
00:48:06.880 is going to
00:48:07.180 be trolls.
00:48:07.680 A lot of
00:48:08.420 it's going
00:48:08.700 to be
00:48:08.940 insults,
00:48:09.600 et cetera.
00:48:10.700 But I
00:48:11.940 think I
00:48:12.320 opened some
00:48:12.960 kind of
00:48:13.340 portal to
00:48:14.040 hell, and
00:48:15.580 every Democrat
00:48:17.160 demon came
00:48:17.940 streaming through
00:48:18.860 to crap on
00:48:20.240 my head, and
00:48:22.080 I thought to
00:48:22.760 myself, wait
00:48:23.480 a minute,
00:48:23.720 wait a minute,
00:48:24.680 they're crapping
00:48:25.740 on me while
00:48:27.240 I'm agreeing
00:48:28.260 with their
00:48:28.860 point of not
00:48:29.900 voting for the
00:48:30.520 president.
00:48:31.700 Do you see
00:48:32.520 how important
00:48:33.060 that is?
00:48:34.260 Instead of
00:48:35.140 forgiving me,
00:48:36.780 instead of
00:48:37.360 saying, thank
00:48:38.460 goodness, we're
00:48:39.780 glad that you
00:48:40.500 have come to
00:48:41.120 your senses, and
00:48:42.320 while you don't
00:48:42.920 agree with us on
00:48:43.740 everything, we do
00:48:44.960 love the fact that
00:48:46.060 you said in public
00:48:46.920 that you would not
00:48:47.880 vote for the
00:48:48.360 president, and for
00:48:49.300 this reason, because
00:48:50.660 this reason is one
00:48:51.600 that we consider
00:48:52.260 important, the
00:48:52.960 whole disavowing
00:48:54.320 racism thing.
00:48:56.480 And so, what
00:48:57.480 should have been
00:48:58.580 the right response?
00:49:02.000 Well, as I've
00:49:03.440 taught you, if you
00:49:04.180 would like to
00:49:04.640 encourage something
00:49:05.560 to happen, you
00:49:06.880 should reward
00:49:07.560 it.
00:49:08.260 If you would
00:49:08.740 like to
00:49:09.180 discourage
00:49:09.940 something from
00:49:10.500 happening in the
00:49:11.540 future, you
00:49:12.500 should penalize
00:49:13.340 it.
00:49:14.080 That always
00:49:14.700 works.
00:49:15.860 What happened
00:49:16.520 when I gave
00:49:17.180 the left
00:49:17.680 exactly what
00:49:18.720 they should
00:49:20.000 have wanted,
00:49:20.940 which is a
00:49:21.680 staunch Trump
00:49:23.300 supporter
00:49:23.960 switching to
00:49:25.520 say that I
00:49:26.080 would not vote
00:49:26.800 for him, and
00:49:28.120 here's the best
00:49:28.820 part, the
00:49:29.860 reason I gave
00:49:30.980 is their top
00:49:32.420 reason, their
00:49:33.800 top reason, their
00:49:35.480 number one
00:49:36.280 reason that they
00:49:37.520 would want me to
00:49:38.340 change my vote, I
00:49:40.000 expressed clearly,
00:49:42.140 emotionally, and
00:49:43.100 honestly, completely
00:49:44.440 honestly, and then I
00:49:46.460 said I would give
00:49:47.080 them what they
00:49:47.540 wanted.
00:49:48.500 What was their
00:49:49.300 response?
00:49:51.140 They shit on me
00:49:52.580 in buckets.
00:49:55.260 What was my
00:49:57.980 response to
00:50:00.140 giving them
00:50:00.800 everything they
00:50:01.440 wanted, and
00:50:02.840 then having them
00:50:03.600 shit on me in
00:50:05.520 gigantic quantities?
00:50:08.740 Well, if you
00:50:09.580 saw my pinned
00:50:10.480 tweet, you know
00:50:11.780 the answer to
00:50:12.400 that.
00:50:13.720 They switched me
00:50:14.580 back to vote for
00:50:15.340 Trump.
00:50:16.300 Because the
00:50:17.260 number one reason
00:50:18.100 for voting for
00:50:18.920 Trump is to
00:50:20.740 not let those
00:50:21.520 people have
00:50:22.640 power.
00:50:23.660 They have
00:50:24.420 demonstrated
00:50:25.040 by penalizing
00:50:27.080 me for doing
00:50:27.800 the right
00:50:28.280 thing that
00:50:29.420 they can't
00:50:29.900 hold power.
00:50:31.340 You can't
00:50:32.280 let power
00:50:33.180 be held by
00:50:34.160 people who
00:50:34.800 will penalize
00:50:35.800 the stuff
00:50:36.720 they want.
00:50:38.340 And the
00:50:38.560 reason they
00:50:38.940 would penalize
00:50:39.500 me is because
00:50:40.200 of past
00:50:41.020 crimes.
00:50:41.980 In other
00:50:42.260 words, past
00:50:43.880 crimes meaning
00:50:44.520 supporting the
00:50:45.140 president.
00:50:45.980 In other
00:50:46.400 words, no
00:50:47.640 forgiveness.
00:50:49.420 What did I
00:50:50.260 tell you is the
00:50:50.820 difference between
00:50:51.500 Republicans and
00:50:52.680 Democrats?
00:50:53.220 if I had
00:50:55.600 gone from a
00:50:56.720 Democrat to
00:50:58.060 a Republican,
00:51:00.600 right?
00:51:01.600 You're ahead
00:51:02.340 of me, right?
00:51:02.780 I don't even
00:51:03.160 have to finish
00:51:03.900 the sentence,
00:51:05.640 but I will
00:51:06.480 anyway, in case
00:51:07.100 there's anybody
00:51:07.500 who needs it.
00:51:08.780 If I had
00:51:09.700 gone from
00:51:10.300 staunch
00:51:10.860 Democrat to
00:51:12.660 saying,
00:51:13.340 forget it,
00:51:14.720 Biden has
00:51:15.380 lost me,
00:51:16.000 I'm going to
00:51:16.340 vote for
00:51:16.720 Trump, what
00:51:17.560 would Trump
00:51:18.140 supporters do?
00:51:19.380 how would
00:51:20.780 they treat
00:51:21.340 me?
00:51:22.420 You know
00:51:22.940 the answer.
00:51:24.300 You know
00:51:24.760 the answer.
00:51:27.260 The way you
00:51:28.120 would treat
00:51:28.500 me is like
00:51:30.260 a friend.
00:51:31.740 The way you
00:51:32.460 would treat
00:51:32.800 me is like
00:51:33.280 a guest.
00:51:34.880 The way you
00:51:35.620 would treat
00:51:35.940 me is like
00:51:36.680 special.
00:51:38.820 You would
00:51:39.400 have actually
00:51:39.880 rewarded me
00:51:40.960 for doing
00:51:42.120 what you
00:51:42.660 thought was
00:51:43.940 the right
00:51:44.280 thing.
00:51:45.560 Wouldn't
00:51:46.000 you?
00:51:46.180 In the
00:51:48.240 comments,
00:51:49.100 look at the
00:51:49.400 comments,
00:51:50.020 you can see
00:51:50.420 it.
00:51:51.220 As a
00:51:51.880 philosophy,
00:51:53.540 Republicans
00:51:54.100 understand
00:51:55.480 human
00:51:56.020 motivation.
00:51:58.140 Democrats
00:51:58.660 don't.
00:51:59.480 It's very
00:51:59.820 consistent.
00:52:01.000 What is
00:52:01.520 socialism?
00:52:02.860 Socialism
00:52:03.500 is a whole
00:52:04.500 bunch of
00:52:04.900 people who
00:52:05.340 don't
00:52:05.600 understand
00:52:06.120 how human
00:52:06.780 motivation
00:52:07.320 works,
00:52:08.280 and don't
00:52:08.580 understand
00:52:09.020 systems and
00:52:09.980 economies,
00:52:10.900 and how to
00:52:11.660 build something
00:52:12.260 that could
00:52:12.640 last.
00:52:14.140 Republicans,
00:52:15.220 like free
00:52:15.820 markets,
00:52:16.580 which are
00:52:17.160 cruel,
00:52:18.860 but it
00:52:19.880 understands
00:52:20.460 human
00:52:20.820 motivation,
00:52:21.900 it understands
00:52:22.640 people,
00:52:23.520 it allows
00:52:24.020 that they
00:52:24.420 are flawed,
00:52:25.480 but it's
00:52:25.840 just the
00:52:26.200 best we
00:52:26.580 can do
00:52:26.900 with our
00:52:27.280 flawed
00:52:27.580 selves.
00:52:28.680 So when
00:52:29.320 you see
00:52:29.600 this pattern,
00:52:30.280 it's hard
00:52:30.560 to unsee
00:52:31.120 it.
00:52:31.900 And so
00:52:32.260 I'll say
00:52:32.700 again that
00:52:33.380 the Democrats
00:52:34.900 within one
00:52:36.420 day forced
00:52:37.740 me back
00:52:38.680 to be a
00:52:39.480 Trump supporter
00:52:40.120 because I
00:52:41.020 can't be on
00:52:41.760 the team
00:52:42.240 that penalizes
00:52:43.800 good behavior.
00:52:45.820 they just
00:52:46.440 don't
00:52:46.700 understand
00:52:47.160 how anything
00:52:47.740 works.
00:52:49.060 Anything.
00:52:50.020 I want to
00:52:50.580 be on the
00:52:50.920 team where
00:52:51.960 I can
00:52:52.360 totally F
00:52:53.580 up, and
00:52:55.080 if I say,
00:52:56.160 damn it,
00:52:56.620 I really, I
00:52:57.360 messed that
00:52:57.860 up, here's
00:52:59.180 what I'm
00:52:59.480 going to do
00:52:59.900 to fix it.
00:53:01.520 I want to
00:53:02.200 be on the
00:53:02.500 team that
00:53:02.840 says, yeah,
00:53:03.780 you did
00:53:04.140 F up.
00:53:04.980 We're not
00:53:05.340 going to take
00:53:06.600 that away.
00:53:07.140 That's history.
00:53:08.040 That's just
00:53:08.560 a fact, but
00:53:09.940 I do appreciate
00:53:10.580 the fact that
00:53:11.960 you made
00:53:12.320 good.
00:53:13.400 I'm okay
00:53:13.960 with you.
00:53:15.300 That's
00:53:15.740 Republicans,
00:53:16.840 and there's
00:53:17.900 only one of
00:53:18.380 those two
00:53:18.740 countries I
00:53:19.240 want to live
00:53:19.640 in, and
00:53:20.460 it's not
00:53:20.800 the one
00:53:21.100 where I
00:53:21.420 get punished
00:53:22.020 for doing
00:53:22.600 the right
00:53:23.180 stuff.
00:53:24.180 Now, how
00:53:25.700 much did I
00:53:26.360 anticipate that
00:53:27.420 this would
00:53:27.780 happen?
00:53:29.020 Well, I
00:53:29.760 could see it
00:53:30.280 coming from
00:53:30.780 a mile away.
00:53:32.180 Now, I
00:53:32.540 didn't know
00:53:32.840 exactly what
00:53:33.740 form it would
00:53:34.320 take, but
00:53:35.700 I did assume
00:53:36.820 that bringing
00:53:38.040 this attention
00:53:38.740 to myself
00:53:39.420 would do
00:53:40.640 one of two
00:53:41.480 things.
00:53:42.720 Well, let me
00:53:43.220 put it this
00:53:43.640 way, instead
00:53:44.200 of saying
00:53:44.500 one of two
00:53:44.920 things.
00:53:47.040 As I've
00:53:47.700 taught you,
00:53:48.280 the number
00:53:48.640 one thing
00:53:50.580 you have to
00:53:50.960 do with
00:53:51.640 persuasion
00:53:52.440 is get
00:53:52.940 attention.
00:53:53.900 Until you
00:53:54.460 get people's
00:53:55.060 attention, it
00:53:56.320 doesn't matter
00:53:56.900 what persuasion
00:53:57.740 technique you
00:53:58.420 have, what
00:53:59.000 your message
00:53:59.460 is, nobody's
00:54:00.700 watching.
00:54:01.620 So the
00:54:02.220 big part is
00:54:03.500 getting the
00:54:03.960 attention of
00:54:04.640 the left.
00:54:05.560 Why did I
00:54:06.200 want to do
00:54:06.840 that?
00:54:07.620 Why did I
00:54:08.240 intentionally say
00:54:09.760 something provocative
00:54:10.680 like, Trump
00:54:11.700 lost my vote?
00:54:12.480 Why did I
00:54:13.800 want to do
00:54:14.220 that on this
00:54:15.220 topic of
00:54:16.500 the not
00:54:17.240 disavowing the
00:54:17.940 white supremacist?
00:54:18.940 The reason I
00:54:19.820 wanted to do
00:54:20.320 it is that I
00:54:21.440 have discovered,
00:54:22.440 as you have,
00:54:23.860 that people on
00:54:24.520 the right see
00:54:25.420 the whole news
00:54:26.420 and the people
00:54:27.000 on the left
00:54:27.420 see only half
00:54:28.120 of it.
00:54:28.980 Because if you're
00:54:29.560 on the right,
00:54:30.420 you can't
00:54:31.720 avoid seeing
00:54:33.380 the mainstream
00:54:33.940 news.
00:54:34.520 It's just too
00:54:35.020 prevalent.
00:54:36.080 But if you're
00:54:36.540 on the left,
00:54:37.080 you can easily
00:54:37.780 avoid watching
00:54:39.300 Fox News or
00:54:40.320 reading Breitbart
00:54:41.040 or something
00:54:41.900 that would
00:54:42.200 be right
00:54:44.160 leaning.
00:54:45.940 So what I
00:54:46.680 wanted to do
00:54:47.180 was open a
00:54:48.040 channel so
00:54:49.600 that the left
00:54:50.340 would pay
00:54:50.920 attention to
00:54:51.540 me in a way
00:54:52.220 that they
00:54:52.560 normally would
00:54:53.220 not.
00:54:54.340 If I could
00:54:54.980 get them to
00:54:55.480 pay attention
00:54:55.960 to me,
00:54:56.780 they would
00:54:57.220 be open
00:54:57.940 to my
00:54:58.460 persuasion
00:54:59.080 for the
00:54:59.860 first time.
00:55:01.160 And once
00:55:01.860 they're open
00:55:02.220 to my
00:55:02.540 persuasion,
00:55:03.280 they would
00:55:03.680 have at
00:55:04.060 least the
00:55:04.380 opportunity
00:55:04.840 to see
00:55:05.420 the compilation
00:55:06.860 clips of
00:55:07.740 the president
00:55:08.280 clearly and
00:55:10.100 consistently
00:55:10.680 disavowing
00:55:11.500 white supremacists
00:55:12.520 and neo-Nazis
00:55:13.420 a number of
00:55:14.560 times throughout
00:55:15.740 his presidency,
00:55:16.880 throughout his
00:55:17.360 candidacy,
00:55:18.220 and throughout
00:55:18.540 his life.
00:55:20.640 I've never
00:55:21.460 met any
00:55:22.080 Democrat who
00:55:22.900 had ever
00:55:23.240 seen that
00:55:23.980 video unless
00:55:25.000 I showed
00:55:25.480 it to him.
00:55:26.420 Would you
00:55:26.760 agree?
00:55:27.560 You've never
00:55:28.160 met a
00:55:28.820 Democrat who's
00:55:29.620 ever seen
00:55:30.240 that compilation
00:55:31.000 video, but
00:55:31.620 I'll bet
00:55:31.880 almost every
00:55:33.440 one of you
00:55:33.820 has seen
00:55:34.140 it.
00:55:34.840 I'll bet
00:55:35.260 just about
00:55:35.780 every one
00:55:36.220 of you
00:55:36.540 has seen
00:55:37.480 all the
00:55:38.100 times he's
00:55:38.720 disavowed
00:55:39.260 it in
00:55:40.080 clean,
00:55:40.840 complete,
00:55:42.540 exact language
00:55:43.720 just like
00:55:44.760 you'd want to
00:55:45.260 hear it from
00:55:45.780 a president.
00:55:46.840 He just
00:55:47.560 didn't want
00:55:47.940 to get
00:55:48.160 pushed during
00:55:48.940 the debate.
00:55:49.640 That's what
00:55:49.960 it looks like
00:55:50.420 to me.
00:55:51.400 So I did
00:55:52.180 assume that
00:55:53.060 he would
00:55:53.480 eventually say
00:55:54.580 a clean and
00:55:55.800 complete statement
00:55:57.160 and it would
00:55:57.900 allow me to
00:55:59.360 vote for him.
00:56:02.860 So I knew
00:56:03.280 it was coming,
00:56:04.020 but I didn't
00:56:04.400 think it would
00:56:04.800 happen as
00:56:05.200 quickly as
00:56:05.720 it did with
00:56:06.780 the bile and
00:56:08.120 evil and
00:56:09.080 horribleness of
00:56:10.380 the left.
00:56:11.200 They actually
00:56:11.900 convinced me a
00:56:12.960 lot faster.
00:56:14.380 I would have
00:56:14.940 waited probably
00:56:15.500 for the
00:56:17.140 president's
00:56:17.680 statement that
00:56:18.200 he finally
00:56:18.560 made on
00:56:19.380 Hannity, I
00:56:20.340 guess.
00:56:21.520 So here's
00:56:22.480 his exact
00:56:23.260 statement on
00:56:23.840 Hannity.
00:56:24.460 And by the
00:56:24.820 way, doing
00:56:25.220 it on Hannity
00:56:25.860 was exactly
00:56:26.680 the right
00:56:27.100 place to
00:56:27.500 do it.
00:56:28.540 If the
00:56:29.200 president could
00:56:30.600 pick one
00:56:31.320 place to
00:56:32.900 make this
00:56:33.440 statement, it
00:56:34.900 was on
00:56:35.300 Hannity.
00:56:36.360 Nailed it.
00:56:37.480 Because you
00:56:37.840 want to be
00:56:38.280 on the
00:56:40.060 most, right
00:56:43.020 most kind
00:56:44.280 of, you
00:56:44.580 know, Trump
00:56:45.440 friendly platform,
00:56:47.240 in part because
00:56:48.820 the whole
00:56:49.540 situation will
00:56:50.320 go well for
00:56:50.940 him, but
00:56:51.640 partly because
00:56:52.220 it forces the
00:56:53.160 left to watch
00:56:53.820 it.
00:56:54.780 He created a
00:56:55.980 Hannity clip
00:56:56.860 that the left
00:56:57.940 just had to
00:56:58.460 watch because
00:56:59.340 the story is
00:56:59.880 too big.
00:57:00.340 They could
00:57:01.320 ignore Trump
00:57:02.340 on Hannity
00:57:02.940 if he says
00:57:03.540 ordinary
00:57:03.920 stuff, but
00:57:05.720 they couldn't
00:57:06.220 ignore this.
00:57:07.500 The story is
00:57:07.960 too big.
00:57:08.940 So putting it
00:57:09.440 on Hannity was
00:57:10.080 kind of
00:57:10.400 brilliant.
00:57:10.860 Here's what he
00:57:11.260 said.
00:57:11.600 Quote, if you
00:57:12.560 missed it,
00:57:12.980 I condemn
00:57:13.400 the KKK, I
00:57:14.900 condemn all
00:57:15.420 white supremacists,
00:57:16.360 I condemn the
00:57:16.940 Proud Boys, I
00:57:18.140 don't want to
00:57:18.600 here's the best
00:57:19.940 part.
00:57:20.500 He goes, I
00:57:21.400 don't know much
00:57:23.260 about the Proud
00:57:23.880 Boys, almost
00:57:24.860 nothing, but I
00:57:26.340 condemn them.
00:57:27.060 could that
00:57:35.140 have been more
00:57:35.740 perfect?
00:57:37.100 Let me read
00:57:38.560 between the
00:57:39.140 lines.
00:57:42.440 The first
00:57:43.320 part of his
00:57:44.580 statement, I
00:57:45.220 condemn the
00:57:45.740 KKK, true.
00:57:48.520 Not only does
00:57:49.240 he condemn
00:57:49.700 them, he
00:57:50.280 actually put
00:57:51.680 them on a
00:57:52.300 domestic terrorism
00:57:53.560 list.
00:57:54.240 So yeah, you
00:57:55.260 know that is
00:57:56.340 freaking true.
00:57:57.060 He condemns
00:57:57.780 the KKK, and
00:57:59.020 he's said it
00:57:59.500 lots of times
00:58:00.040 in the past
00:58:00.560 as well.
00:58:01.340 He goes, I
00:58:01.860 condemn all
00:58:02.440 white supremacists.
00:58:03.400 Again, something
00:58:04.580 he's said a
00:58:05.220 number of
00:58:05.600 times that the
00:58:06.420 left has never
00:58:07.060 heard, but the
00:58:07.800 right has heard
00:58:08.320 lots of times.
00:58:09.820 All good.
00:58:11.120 So now he's
00:58:11.700 said the two
00:58:12.140 important things,
00:58:13.300 and notice that
00:58:14.000 he said them
00:58:14.480 first.
00:58:16.060 If you're good
00:58:17.080 at media
00:58:17.820 relations, you
00:58:19.180 do this.
00:58:20.340 You say you
00:58:21.260 lead with the
00:58:22.080 thing you want
00:58:22.800 to say.
00:58:24.560 You don't put
00:58:25.760 any qualifiers,
00:58:26.680 you just
00:58:27.140 say, I
00:58:27.520 condemn the
00:58:27.920 KKK, I
00:58:28.760 condemn all
00:58:29.200 white supremacists.
00:58:30.320 So he's
00:58:31.180 moved from
00:58:31.920 the debate
00:58:33.080 where his
00:58:33.520 answer was
00:58:34.260 bad, to
00:58:35.960 this where
00:58:36.440 it's perfect.
00:58:37.800 There's no
00:58:38.480 improvement on
00:58:39.180 this.
00:58:39.400 This is a
00:58:39.820 perfect statement.
00:58:41.460 But then
00:58:41.900 when he
00:58:42.200 throws in
00:58:42.620 the proud
00:58:43.000 boys, don't
00:58:45.200 think of
00:58:45.640 this as
00:58:46.320 throwing them
00:58:46.860 under the
00:58:47.260 bus exactly,
00:58:48.460 because I
00:58:48.940 don't quite
00:58:49.420 see that.
00:58:50.540 Here's what
00:58:51.040 I see.
00:58:52.220 This is a
00:58:52.880 little bit
00:58:53.360 tongue-in-cheek.
00:58:54.380 Remember I
00:58:54.840 told you that
00:58:55.480 the hard
00:58:55.920 part is
00:58:57.200 where do
00:58:57.520 you draw
00:58:57.820 the line?
00:58:58.960 Like, how
00:58:59.280 do you go
00:58:59.900 from KKK,
00:59:01.500 definitely
00:59:01.740 bad, white
00:59:02.700 supremacists,
00:59:03.340 definitely
00:59:03.560 bad, I
00:59:05.120 don't know
00:59:05.460 who the
00:59:05.760 proud boys
00:59:06.240 are.
00:59:07.420 But the
00:59:07.840 fact that
00:59:08.380 he said
00:59:08.940 explicitly,
00:59:10.700 I don't
00:59:11.160 know much
00:59:11.600 about them,
00:59:12.300 almost nothing,
00:59:13.520 but I
00:59:13.940 condemn that?
00:59:14.880 Come on.
00:59:20.320 Come on.
00:59:21.980 Could that
00:59:22.480 have been
00:59:22.840 more perfect
00:59:23.540 to say he
00:59:24.460 doesn't know
00:59:24.960 anything about
00:59:25.720 them and he
00:59:26.260 condemns them?
00:59:27.540 That tells
00:59:28.400 you,
00:59:29.180 that tells
00:59:31.460 you everything
00:59:33.260 you need to
00:59:33.840 know about
00:59:34.240 it.
00:59:34.640 Because remember,
00:59:35.600 the problem
00:59:36.180 was, what
00:59:36.980 happens when
00:59:37.560 he gets
00:59:38.240 into the
00:59:38.680 gray area?
00:59:39.600 The way he
00:59:40.440 handled the
00:59:41.020 gray area
00:59:41.660 was to say
00:59:42.900 he doesn't
00:59:43.340 know what
00:59:43.680 they do,
00:59:44.060 but he
00:59:44.300 condemns
00:59:44.720 them anyway.
00:59:46.960 You can't
00:59:48.040 do better
00:59:48.560 than that.
00:59:50.660 That is
00:59:51.500 the best
00:59:51.980 answer maybe
00:59:53.640 anybody has
00:59:54.380 ever given
00:59:55.000 to any
00:59:56.340 question from
00:59:58.120 the beginning
00:59:58.640 of recorded
00:59:59.340 history.
01:00:00.500 You will
01:00:01.180 never see
01:00:02.180 a more
01:00:03.560 perfect answer
01:00:04.460 to a
01:00:05.540 trap
01:00:05.920 question.
01:00:07.200 Remember
01:00:07.500 when,
01:00:08.680 harking back
01:00:09.760 to the
01:00:11.780 Rosie O'Donnell
01:00:12.580 situation in
01:00:13.320 his first
01:00:13.660 debate,
01:00:14.140 when he
01:00:14.440 said,
01:00:14.680 only Rosie
01:00:15.240 O'Donnell,
01:00:16.120 and he
01:00:16.460 got out
01:00:17.020 of the
01:00:17.320 worst
01:00:17.720 question
01:00:19.100 trap you
01:00:19.720 could ever
01:00:20.040 get out
01:00:20.420 of.
01:00:21.080 And that
01:00:21.500 was the,
01:00:22.120 you know,
01:00:22.460 as I've
01:00:23.020 told the
01:00:23.340 story,
01:00:23.660 that was
01:00:23.900 the moment
01:00:24.300 I said,
01:00:25.220 wait a minute,
01:00:26.280 he's doing
01:00:26.840 things that
01:00:27.300 nobody can
01:00:27.780 do.
01:00:28.520 He just
01:00:28.920 did the
01:00:29.240 impossible
01:00:29.660 right in
01:00:30.040 front of
01:00:30.260 me.
01:00:30.420 He got
01:00:30.700 out of
01:00:30.900 the
01:00:31.000 impossible
01:00:31.540 trap.
01:00:31.980 trap.
01:00:32.840 Now,
01:00:33.400 he did
01:00:33.680 not get
01:00:34.040 out of
01:00:34.220 the
01:00:34.340 trap
01:00:34.640 in the
01:00:35.560 debate,
01:00:36.660 but when
01:00:38.820 he had
01:00:39.100 time to
01:00:39.720 prepare and
01:00:40.700 think about
01:00:41.200 it,
01:00:41.820 he came
01:00:42.320 up with,
01:00:43.060 really,
01:00:44.500 you could
01:00:45.100 not craft a
01:00:46.880 better answer
01:00:47.360 than this.
01:00:48.080 Because you
01:00:48.720 can read the
01:00:49.300 Proud Boys'
01:00:50.000 part as
01:00:50.900 tongue-in-cheek,
01:00:52.540 the fact that
01:00:53.140 he would
01:00:53.400 condemn them
01:00:53.980 while saying
01:00:54.440 he doesn't
01:00:54.780 know what
01:00:55.060 they are.
01:00:55.420 that is
01:00:56.420 the funniest,
01:00:57.300 I'm sorry,
01:00:58.000 I feel like
01:00:58.460 I have to
01:00:58.940 swear.
01:01:00.220 Do you
01:01:01.140 mind an
01:01:01.980 F-word in
01:01:02.580 the middle
01:01:02.820 of this?
01:01:04.520 Give you a
01:01:05.100 little bit of
01:01:05.460 warning to
01:01:07.040 send the
01:01:07.640 children away,
01:01:08.400 earmuffs,
01:01:09.360 earmuffs on
01:01:09.980 the children.
01:01:10.780 There's
01:01:10.960 sometimes when
01:01:11.700 the F-word is
01:01:13.340 the only word
01:01:13.960 that works in
01:01:15.100 the sentence,
01:01:15.700 have you ever
01:01:16.080 noticed that?
01:01:16.980 So let me
01:01:17.440 say it with
01:01:17.880 the F-word
01:01:18.360 the way it
01:01:18.780 should have
01:01:19.020 been said.
01:01:20.280 When the
01:01:20.820 president said,
01:01:21.640 I don't know
01:01:22.000 much about the
01:01:22.600 Proud Boys,
01:01:23.160 almost nothing,
01:01:23.880 but I condemn
01:01:24.480 that,
01:01:24.840 that's the
01:01:26.040 funniest fucking
01:01:26.800 thing a
01:01:27.380 president ever
01:01:28.060 said.
01:01:29.400 That's just
01:01:30.080 the funniest
01:01:30.580 fucking thing.
01:01:32.120 And I don't
01:01:32.800 know if
01:01:33.180 everybody's going
01:01:33.920 to appreciate
01:01:34.600 how brilliant
01:01:36.980 that is.
01:01:38.060 Because what
01:01:38.640 it does was,
01:01:40.360 in a million
01:01:41.460 years I
01:01:41.920 couldn't have
01:01:42.280 seen this
01:01:42.680 solution.
01:01:43.440 Literally,
01:01:44.060 this is like
01:01:44.500 a Houdini
01:01:45.060 situation.
01:01:46.260 Because I
01:01:48.020 would not
01:01:48.500 have known
01:01:49.120 how to get
01:01:49.940 out of the
01:01:50.380 trap of
01:01:51.420 going down
01:01:52.020 the gray
01:01:52.540 area.
01:01:53.880 Right?
01:01:53.960 Now,
01:01:54.880 what happens
01:01:55.680 if next
01:01:57.360 he's asked
01:01:57.960 to condemn
01:01:58.780 somebody who
01:01:59.760 is even
01:02:00.260 more,
01:02:02.640 let's say,
01:02:04.680 holy?
01:02:06.580 The next one
01:02:07.440 he could do
01:02:07.820 the same
01:02:08.220 thing.
01:02:08.820 He could say,
01:02:09.100 well,
01:02:09.260 I don't know
01:02:09.600 much about
01:02:10.120 them,
01:02:10.240 but I
01:02:10.460 condemn
01:02:10.800 them.
01:02:11.160 Are you
01:02:11.320 happy?
01:02:12.120 Sure,
01:02:12.420 I condemn
01:02:12.780 them.
01:02:13.360 I don't
01:02:13.800 know what
01:02:14.000 they do,
01:02:15.140 but I
01:02:15.620 condemn
01:02:15.920 them.
01:02:17.480 That's it.
01:02:18.160 he's shown
01:02:20.080 a willingness
01:02:20.540 to condemn
01:02:21.860 people just
01:02:23.800 because you
01:02:24.160 wanted them
01:02:24.520 to say
01:02:24.840 it.
01:02:25.280 It took
01:02:25.660 all the
01:02:25.920 power out
01:02:26.380 of it.
01:02:27.180 It's sort
01:02:27.600 of like
01:02:27.960 Jay-Z
01:02:31.420 using the
01:02:32.080 N-word.
01:02:33.000 If you've
01:02:33.580 ever seen
01:02:34.000 Jay-Z,
01:02:35.020 he was
01:02:35.400 asked about,
01:02:36.400 well,
01:02:36.540 why do you
01:02:36.880 always use
01:02:37.340 the N-word
01:02:37.880 in your
01:02:38.240 music?
01:02:39.900 And part
01:02:40.320 of his
01:02:40.600 answer was
01:02:41.700 that it
01:02:41.980 takes the
01:02:42.360 power out
01:02:42.820 of it.
01:02:43.120 Instead of
01:02:44.140 it being
01:02:44.540 a horrible
01:02:45.280 insult,
01:02:46.200 he just
01:02:46.600 owns it,
01:02:47.580 uses it,
01:02:48.340 turns it
01:02:48.680 into a
01:02:49.020 tool.
01:02:49.960 Good
01:02:50.240 technique,
01:02:51.000 Jay-Z.
01:02:51.900 And the
01:02:52.500 president
01:02:52.860 kind of
01:02:53.900 did that
01:02:54.360 a little
01:02:54.640 bit by
01:02:56.100 saying,
01:02:56.660 you want
01:02:56.880 me to
01:02:57.180 condemn?
01:02:58.120 What do
01:02:58.440 you want?
01:02:59.560 Give me
01:03:00.100 a name.
01:03:00.880 Give me
01:03:01.160 a name,
01:03:01.520 I'll
01:03:01.680 condemn
01:03:01.940 him.
01:03:02.840 How
01:03:02.940 about,
01:03:04.520 I'm
01:03:06.300 trying to
01:03:06.600 think of
01:03:06.880 some other
01:03:07.300 example.
01:03:08.780 How about
01:03:09.360 the,
01:03:10.760 I don't
01:03:12.040 know,
01:03:12.460 anybody.
01:03:13.120 All right,
01:03:15.400 unemployment
01:03:15.800 down to
01:03:16.320 7.9 in
01:03:17.520 September.
01:03:18.640 Well,
01:03:19.140 room to
01:03:20.140 grow.
01:03:21.760 So,
01:03:22.520 let me
01:03:23.160 give you
01:03:23.420 a bottom
01:03:23.760 line on
01:03:24.360 the
01:03:24.600 president
01:03:24.960 and his
01:03:25.940 coronavirus
01:03:26.500 situation.
01:03:27.720 First of
01:03:28.080 all,
01:03:28.380 what are
01:03:28.620 the odds
01:03:29.300 that the,
01:03:30.580 is it the
01:03:31.160 head of the
01:03:31.520 Democratic
01:03:31.860 Party,
01:03:32.480 her name
01:03:32.800 is Rona?
01:03:34.200 What are
01:03:34.580 the odds
01:03:34.960 that,
01:03:35.320 I'm sorry,
01:03:35.740 the head
01:03:35.940 of the
01:03:36.140 Republican
01:03:36.480 Party,
01:03:37.620 isn't the
01:03:38.580 chair of
01:03:39.620 the Republican
01:03:40.160 Party named
01:03:40.780 Rona?
01:03:42.000 R-O-N-A?
01:03:43.840 What are
01:03:44.460 the odds
01:03:44.720 of that?
01:03:47.200 I'm just
01:03:47.880 tossing that
01:03:48.440 in there
01:03:48.700 because it
01:03:49.460 struck my
01:03:50.140 mind funny.
01:03:52.520 But anyway,
01:03:53.940 my guess
01:03:54.900 is that
01:03:56.260 this will
01:03:56.980 work for
01:03:57.980 the president.
01:04:00.120 I think
01:04:00.880 it could go
01:04:01.460 either way,
01:04:02.240 so I wouldn't
01:04:02.820 put a ton
01:04:03.480 of confidence
01:04:04.080 in this
01:04:04.680 initial opinion,
01:04:05.980 and I'll
01:04:06.600 reserve the
01:04:07.180 right to
01:04:07.540 revise my
01:04:08.280 opinion.
01:04:08.580 because you
01:04:09.260 need to
01:04:09.580 see how
01:04:10.560 the public
01:04:11.200 responds.
01:04:12.760 And once
01:04:13.060 you see
01:04:13.400 how they
01:04:13.700 respond,
01:04:14.580 you'll get
01:04:15.080 a better
01:04:15.360 idea if
01:04:15.960 this is
01:04:16.280 going to
01:04:16.500 work for
01:04:16.980 or against
01:04:17.360 the president.
01:04:18.280 But let
01:04:18.640 me ask
01:04:18.920 you this.
01:04:20.460 Is it
01:04:21.060 more likely
01:04:21.640 that the
01:04:22.100 president
01:04:22.440 would cause
01:04:23.200 trouble by
01:04:24.660 speaking out
01:04:25.480 and doing
01:04:25.760 public
01:04:26.120 appearances,
01:04:26.780 or that
01:04:27.720 he would
01:04:28.040 gain votes?
01:04:30.280 I don't
01:04:30.560 know.
01:04:30.880 There were
01:04:31.100 probably more
01:04:31.580 downside from
01:04:32.800 active campaigning
01:04:33.880 at this point
01:04:34.480 than upside.
01:04:34.960 It's
01:04:35.640 hard to
01:04:35.940 say.
01:04:38.520 And
01:04:38.800 Tom
01:04:42.740 Arnold,
01:04:43.440 people are
01:04:45.120 suggesting
01:04:45.720 people to
01:04:46.280 condemn.
01:04:47.160 What about
01:04:47.680 the Elbonians?
01:04:49.080 Well, I
01:04:49.480 don't know
01:04:49.720 anything about
01:04:50.180 the Elbonians,
01:04:51.020 but I
01:04:52.020 condemn that.
01:04:53.400 I think I'm
01:04:54.560 going to
01:04:54.760 tweet that
01:04:55.180 after we're
01:04:55.600 done here.
01:04:56.800 All right.
01:04:58.320 My guess
01:04:59.200 is that this
01:04:59.860 will create
01:05:00.380 some sympathy
01:05:00.980 for the
01:05:01.440 president,
01:05:02.120 but in
01:05:02.880 addition,
01:05:03.480 it's very,
01:05:04.260 very
01:05:04.420 compatible
01:05:04.980 with his
01:05:06.400 notion that
01:05:07.440 we should
01:05:07.760 try to
01:05:08.060 get back
01:05:08.420 to work
01:05:08.900 even at
01:05:09.800 great risk
01:05:10.560 to some
01:05:11.180 people.
01:05:12.260 And he
01:05:12.680 was one
01:05:13.080 of the
01:05:13.280 people who
01:05:13.680 took the
01:05:14.060 risk.
01:05:15.120 He lived
01:05:16.540 the life
01:05:17.060 that he
01:05:17.500 was promoting,
01:05:18.500 which is
01:05:18.800 take
01:05:19.080 precautions,
01:05:21.780 but still
01:05:22.200 work.
01:05:23.340 That's what
01:05:23.940 he did.
01:05:24.360 He took
01:05:24.700 precautions,
01:05:25.800 but he
01:05:26.760 still worked.
01:05:27.480 That's what
01:05:27.780 he asked
01:05:29.120 of the
01:05:29.360 country.
01:05:30.340 And he
01:05:31.100 took a
01:05:31.440 risk,
01:05:32.640 and
01:05:32.880 in a
01:05:34.660 weird way,
01:05:35.260 he turned
01:05:35.600 into an
01:05:35.980 accidental
01:05:36.440 role model
01:05:37.060 because he
01:05:38.700 took the
01:05:39.020 risk.
01:05:40.600 So we'll
01:05:41.300 see.
01:05:42.060 All right.
01:05:42.980 That's all I
01:05:43.460 got to say
01:05:43.880 about this.
01:05:45.260 And I
01:05:45.920 condemn
01:05:46.160 everyone.
01:05:47.400 I condemn
01:05:48.200 everything I
01:05:50.120 don't understand.
01:05:51.440 In general,
01:05:52.620 if I don't
01:05:53.020 know about it,
01:05:54.320 I condemn
01:05:54.760 it.
01:05:55.760 That's my
01:05:56.340 take on
01:05:57.060 this.
01:05:57.260 And
01:05:58.320 somebody
01:06:00.920 said
01:06:01.180 Rona
01:06:01.800 is
01:06:02.160 COVID
01:06:02.700 positive.
01:06:03.880 That's not
01:06:04.620 I don't
01:06:06.260 know if
01:06:06.540 that's a
01:06:06.880 real thing.
01:06:07.880 So don't
01:06:08.300 believe that.
01:06:11.220 All right.
01:06:12.100 That's all
01:06:12.640 for now.
01:06:13.040 I'll talk
01:06:13.280 to you
01:06:13.440 later.