Episode 1143 Scott Adams： I Tell You How the Trump Diagnosis Changes Everything
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In this episode of Coffee with Scott Adams, Scott Adams talks about the upcoming 2020 VP debate, the Nobel Peace Prize, super spreaders, and much, much more. Coffee is made by Scott Adams and is served with a generous dollop of caffeine.
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hey everybody come on in come on in it's another great morning featuring coffee with Scott Adams
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I feel my live stream audience is 10% better just because of that sip right there that's called
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science well let's see what's going on certainly it seems that the vice presidential debate might take
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on a little bit extra importance but you know what's interesting about the vice presidential
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debate is that pretty much nobody in the world wants either of those two people to be president
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so we're in this weird 2020 situation where we're saying you know it might not be Biden so much maybe
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Kamala Harris is the important one in this race and meanwhile President Trump is in the hospital so
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people are saying well you know we don't want this to happen but we got to be serious about a
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vice presidential option how did we get to the point where we spent you know the the most powerful and
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capable country of all time the United States spent two years scouring the country to find the two best
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candidates for the two parties and when we were done we ended up with two candidates
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that probably couldn't win a mayor's race at this point well that's not true both of them could you
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know they could both be in Congress for sure but I exaggerate the point being I'm not sure anybody wants
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really to see a president Kamala Harris or a president to Pence but maybe that's what we're talking about
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now so we'll see how that goes I just read that the Nobel Peace Prize there's of course a betting market
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so people are trying to bet who will win and two of the entities that are near the top of the betting list
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for the Nobel Peace Prize are the world health organization not not even joking that this is
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really happening in the actual reality world if there is reality the world health organization
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is being considered for the Nobel Prize at least according to the betting markets
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the other one's even better black lives matter is being considered at least in the betting markets
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for the Nobel Prize as well in that case I think black lives matter as the movement not the specific
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organization now how much prestige would you assign to the Nobel Peace Prize if two of the top
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top top entities under consideration are two of the most discredited entities of all time
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it's kind of makes the whole thing worthless doesn't it
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um I certainly don't see black lives matter as pursuing peace even even if you were completely on their side
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what does uh no justice no peace mean to the Nobel Peace Prize because to me it sounds like
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we're kind of a little bit sort of not kidding pro-violence if we don't get our way that feels like if you were
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going to draw down on paper and you said to yourself hypothetically what would be the least like a
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peaceful organization that you could imagine what would be the absolute opposite of a peace
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promoting situation well I would say it would be someone whose famous chant is no justice no peace
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it's really the opposite uh the world health organization of course is owned by China and
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gave us bad advice on the coronavirus which killed a lot of people to the extent that the coronavirus
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is like a an enemy you know it's like a war and the coronavirus is our enemy which side was the world
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health organization on it's a little unclear I mean obviously they did helpful things too
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but uh I would say that situation is a little bit ambiguous I've got a clarification from I think
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from yesterday's periscope I was talking about the possibility that some people might be genetically
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inclined to be super spreaders but uh uh I won't name names but I've been uh informed by someone who
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knows a lot more than I do mostly including reading the actual study that I tweeted around
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um that the super spreader is more accurately refers to uh a situation than a person so whether or not
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there are people who are more likely to spread it than other people by something about them uh that would
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be still unknown but we do know that situations where people are in close contact seem to be the super
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spreader situations that said does it make any sense to you that a 400 pound mouth breather would be
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the same amount of risk as a 100 pound person who doesn't breathe as much you know wouldn't it matter
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how much volume of air you're moving around you makes no difference I mean maybe it makes no difference
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because it could be that regardless of the volume of air it's the same amount of virus because you
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only have so much in you maybe who knows but uh I would not rule out the possibility that there's some
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difference in who could spread it even if the only difference is how big you are and what your lung capacity
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is it seems just common sense there must be something there all right
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what um I asked on twitter we'll talk about the president in a minute but I asked on twitter
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how many people have uh are watching less drama movies or drama tv or reading dramatic books and 62
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percent of people said they either stopped watching uh fictional drama or they or they cut way back
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two-thirds of people almost two-thirds of people cut back on their entertainment and drama
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i wonder if that's a permanent change because it might be now i don't know if it's only because of the
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the stress there's just too much stress in real life so people don't need any extra that's i would
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think that's the big reason and uh the reason i asked the question is i've completely eliminated
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drama from my life in terms of entertainment so i won't watch a drama movie definitely won't read a
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drama book won't watch a drama tv show just don't need even fictional anything i don't need any of it
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and when i every once in a while i'll sample something because i'll say to myself well this is
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this is sort of a light drama you know it's you know it's not really that violent or anything
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five minutes in i'll say why am i watching entertainment which is literally designed
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to make me feel tense so that they could make me feel better at the end or feel something or cry at
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the end why would i want my emotions to be manipulated for entertainment they're they're way attenuated
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already the last thing i need is a little more piling on to my emotional stability when there's plenty of
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reasons to be alarmed um another political some other reasons that people have given for watching less
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tv drama is that it's too politically uh heavy-handed have you had that experience
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have you had the experience yet where you think oh this might be a good movie and you turn it on
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and it's so anti-male that you just say uh i don't really want to watch something that's anti-male
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and then you turn the channel and say oh i'll try something else and you turn it on and
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it's anti-male and then you think well maybe that's a coincidence and then the insurance
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commercial comes on and it's anti-male it feels as though all entertainment has turned into anti-male
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entertainment uh i don't know if i've told anybody this story before maybe i've told this in periscope
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uh if i haven't this will be i think the first time i might be telling it in public maybe i said it
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on a podcast somewhere um and it goes like this some of you know i was trying to write a dilbert
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movie a few years ago i had converted a room into a movie writing room in my house i had notes all over
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the walls i had the scenes drawn out and i had pretty much the entire plot worked out in my head and i just
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needed to you know finish the dialogue and pull it all together and i abandoned the entire project after
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i would say a year of work and i abandoned it cold why did i do that the reason was i had written it
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to be anti-male and i didn't really realize it because it wasn't any kind of a conscious decision i'd
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made i had just sort of written it with the influence of the world in my head and and the plot everything
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was sort of designed so it would it would end up with you don't need to know the details but it was
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more of a celebration of women and men not being so competent now of course it was in a humorous context
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and was supposed to be a interesting reveal at the end and everything and when i was done i was actually
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disgusted with myself and i was also completely conscious that i'd fallen into these these um you know
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social justice model of how a movie needed to look and when i realized that my creative choices were
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so compressed that there was only way one way it could be i couldn't just write a movie i couldn't
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just write it like real life i couldn't write it interesting i couldn't do anything with it unless it
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conformed to this narrow band of what you know is socially appropriate and when i realized that i had
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fallen into this super uncreative ditch where i couldn't get out because if i changed it it would
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no longer look appropriate and so i abandoned the whole thing probably millions of dollars you know in
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terms of potential uh upside because i could probably get a movie made if i push hard enough you know i have
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enough connections etc but uh i just couldn't be part of that so that's part of why people are watching
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less i think uh somebody else suggested that social media is just more inviting so compared to the the
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quick hit you get on your phone a movie is boring how many of you have had this experience you turn on a
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movie or you know let's say sports or something that used to completely entertain you you watch for
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about a minute and the next thing you know you're playing on your phone at the same time and you're
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sort of watching the movie but the phone is more interesting and then the next thing you know 15 minutes
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has gone by and you didn't watch the movie because it wasn't as interesting as your phone so that's part
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of it then somebody suggested that at least when it comes to sports that it's hard to watch uh the blm
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kneeling sports so there's some people who are turned off by that i i've got a feeling that the entire
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entertainment landscape is really really in for a shock uh more so than it's already had along those
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same lines i tweeted a video of uh it was one of the kids who was killed in the parkland shootings from
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a few years ago and his name is uh joaquin oliver and although the the teenager was killed during that
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tragedy um they brought him back to life as a deep fake in other words they used computer
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generated technology they called it ai but i'm not sure exactly if artificial intelligence
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is really the right term for what they did maybe i mean uh i'm not saying it's not true but i don't
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know exactly what the ai part would be but here's the thing they created a full a full-sized you know
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full-body movement uh fake of the deceased teenager talking to the camera and doing sort of an anti-gun
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presentation and you could if you were looking for it you could tell it wasn't real barely just barely
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could you tell that this thing wasn't real and here's the question i asked given the weird coincidence
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that the deep fake technology became mature exactly now at the very time that you can't really easily
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make a movie because of covet so real actors can't do their work at exactly the same time the digital
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version of actors became practical that is a weird coincidence isn't it it's almost like
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why is it a coincidence that the protesters get to wear masks because of covet which really makes the
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protest more effective because they wear masks that's a big coincidence there's a lot of big coincidences
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happening with this covet stuff so it could be the end of uh real actors in hollywood or or the beginning
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of what will obviously be the end of them because why would you hire real actors if you can create
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digital ones that once created it would be expensive to create them the first time but once you've created
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a a fully realized digital fake you can make a lot of movies using the the characters that you've
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already created you know and if it's a sequel let's say the sequel has you know the main characters are
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just the same ones it could get really really economical how long will it be before there's a
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digital tom cruise that you know doesn't look like tom cruise but is the let's say the charisma
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equivalent you know you look at the digital and you say oh that's a pretty good pretty interesting
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person there not long i think we're about there um
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all right uh let's see what else is going on of course the president went to uh walter reid you all
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and uh there's just so much to say about that so let me just start at the beginning
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um rasmussen reports did a funny uh tweet this morning and it said they said news alert it has
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now been over 24 hours since uh potus was asked publicly if he denounces white supremacists
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so the you know it's funny because it's based on something that feels true the entire uh news
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industry had completely formed around they were just going to keep asking this one question in
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different ways and that was going to be the news cycle until the election how many ways could we ask
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the president does he really seriously denounce white supremacists again well he just did it like five
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minutes ago yeah well but does he denounce it now because that was five minutes ago and by the way we don't
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remember it what do you mean you don't remember it here here's a video look i'll play the video for
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you here watch this i denounce all white supremacists there you see good five minutes ago it's on video there
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you go does he denounce it now what is wrong with you it's right here from five minutes ago on video you
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can verify this is real yeah but he said white supremacists but he didn't mention neo-nazis which
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is kind of striking well but it's all the same thing i don't know is it i think we're going to need a
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little clarification because you know white supremacists yeah they overlap they overlap with the neo-nazis
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but we need a little clarification on neo-nazis well here's a video of him denouncing neo-nazis
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calling them neo-nazis that's a little older that's that's months old does he still i mean how do we know
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he still denounces them so that was that was the cycle that we were about to be in which was just
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horrible in terms of boring news it's almost as bad as somebody famous dying and you just have to listen
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to that for five days yeah we respect the people who died but it ruins the news cycle for a while
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if we're being honest um so why doesn't the white house get some of those coronavirus sniffing dogs
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i talked to you about those before so apparently it is actually possible and it has been demonstrated to
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work you can teach some kinds of dogs to detect coronavirus even before they have symptoms how
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cool would that be because i can't imagine there would be a faster more reliable way to you know
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have a continuous checking in the white house than to literally have a white house dog who just walks
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around and sniffs everybody all day long you know even if they've had a recent test give them a sniff
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can't hurt so uh i get that there are not many dogs who have been trained yet but if you had even one
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dog that you were pretty sure it could sniff coronavirus that one dog needs to be in that one place
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right you know if ever there was a place for a corona sniffing dog yeah you'd like to put them in the
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you know senior citizen homes and the the elder care homes that's great but let's put one of those
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dogs in the white house i feel like we've demonstrated the need for that um and plus it's a great visual
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how much would the press just love to death a white house dog that was actually protecting the white
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house literally an actual dog protecting the white house it would be video candy so let's get let's get
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a sniffing dog um so let's talk about how any of this is going to affect the election right now i would
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say first of all that events are are changing and morphing quite quickly so whatever we think is likely
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to be the outcome of this as of today check back in 10 minutes because there might be so much that's
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changed that you know any hot take is just obliterated in 10 minutes uh one of the ways that
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happened is more people getting coronavirus uh diagnoses so it was one thing when the president
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had it when the president was the only one we were talking about obviously lots of people have it but
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when he was the one we were focusing on at the white house what what did you feel about that well you
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probably thought okay it's a story about you know the left is going to say he's a dumbass he deserved it
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by not wearing masks didn't take it seriously it's karma you know got what he asked for uh and of course
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the republicans would say some version of uh well he asked the public to go back to work he went back
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to work he took normal precautions maybe even better than normal precautions and it didn't work
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out but it was the same risk he asked the public to take so of course you want him to take the same
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risk that he's asking you to take you know just feels more like leadership so it was going to be spun
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that way but probably the bigger theme is that there would be empathy for the president you know it's
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hard to it's hard to dump on somebody when there's when they're down so even joe biden quite cleverly
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quite cleverly uh announced that they were going to pull all their negative uh campaign ads now that
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was a really smart thing to do the way the public is going to see it is wow that's that's what good
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people do you know they they don't dump on people when when they're down but it was of course a brilliant
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political move because by biden pulling the political ads what does that make you feel about
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president trump does it make you feel uh more empathy i don't know maybe but what it makes you
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feel is that he's weak if biden had kept the pressure on uh campaigning at full strength with full
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negative campaign ads he might get a little blowback for being too aggressive possibly but
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it would also make trump look strong because you don't make your full court attack against somebody
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who's weak so biden got this perfect opportunity i think he was well advised unless it was his decision
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he was well advised that they could save money on tv ads that's good save a bunch of money a week of
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ads probably a lot of money at the same time by saving the money on the ads he can look like a nice
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like the nice person in the race that's a bonus saves money looks like the nice person but it's the
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third thing that's the killer the third thing who is it that you go easy on if you ease up it's because
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the other person is weak in some way so he's managed to frame the president as very weakened
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at the same time he's making himself look like a nice guy at the same time he's saving money
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that's about as good a play as you can get out of a campaign so whoever is advising the biden campaign
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at least on this stuff very very competent in fact i would say overall the biden advisors
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have been pretty good i'm gonna sneeze this is gonna be ugly trying to hold it hold it see if
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i can get past the sneeze okay i think i did all right um now the fact that um so many people
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have now been diagnosed with the coronavirus i think completely changes the narrative
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when it was mostly the president you could say a big part of the story is we feel sorry for him
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there's empathy don't dump on him and you know we hope he does well etc but as soon as you realize
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that a lot of people in his inner circle got infected and i think it's up to nine people kelly ann conway
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three senators uh a priest um ron and mcdaniel once you get that many it really changes the story doesn't
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it in my mind it changed the story from oh you know we have some empathy because the president's sick
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to wait a minute are you telling me that that because they did not take proper care
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and because they did not wear face masks as they would like the public to do
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and because they had a public gathering in tight spaces everything we're not supposed to do
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and that it worked out exactly the way the experts would say it would if you do these things
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you're going to have this outcome we experts tell you are there any experts who disagree well not too
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many you can always find the the skeptics etc about masks and social social stuff but most experts
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left and right most experts would have said that all of those things the white house did
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are exactly the things you don't do they did them in public they got pretty pretty big infection rate
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it could be the end that could be the end for trump the fact that uh this is so um starkly
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incompetent yeah i don't know if you could use any other word
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you know you know you know i'd like to put the best spin on it but if it just been the president i
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would have said bad luck just bad luck and maybe even good role modeling but the fact that the entire
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events seem to be that um poorly protected now i'd say the narrative has shifted to incompetence
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you don't have to like that but i don't know how you can escape it
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now does that mean that in my opinion that the not wearing masks and the social distancing is
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definitely the cause of all those infections i don't know i don't know you have to think that
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anybody who would not wear a mask and would you know hug people in public uh during a public event
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during a coronavirus they're probably doing similar things at home don't you think don't
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don't you think it's a group of people who by their nature are either going to be lax with masks all the
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time you know at least if they can get away with it um or are they only lax with masks at the white
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house so the first thing you have to ask is is it something about this group of people who are
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unusually unwilling to take the the precautions that most experts should say all right so i think the uh
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the president has a big big problem with that now how could that change between now and election day
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well we could find out that there's more news that's still going to happen between now and election day
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than we've seen so far all year if 2020 stays in character there's good stuff that hasn't even
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happened yet like and it might be the big stuff you know who knows what it could be but it could be big
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and uh we'll wait for that so everything that we think is true on any given day between now and election
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day just assume that it could be wiped off just the way the coronavirus diagnosis of the president
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all right um one of one of the problems that the public and the press are having with this
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situation is it didn't fit into any model that we had before you know for almost anything that comes
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up in the news we can always say well that was like the 1826 gambit the 1968 convention and very
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similar to the 1979 you know thing that happened and then we say okay is it more like which one of
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those things and then our brains can wrap wrap around a new thing say okay it's a new thing but it's like
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these other things the president getting the coronavirus this close to election this is not
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like any other thing there's no model that you can go to and say all right all right if it worked out
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this way before and this is sort of similar this is how this will go we got nothing there there's no history
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that informs us there's no common sense that tells us where it goes there's no road map just don't know
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in terms of how it affects the election etc so that is unusually disconcerting in a otherwise disconcerting
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let's say that things go the way of the best script you know i've talked about this before
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there's some reason and i don't know why that uh you often get this situation where
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real life goes the same way that a movie script would have gone in other words the most interesting
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thing that could happen actually happens now you're seeing this with president trump getting
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coronavirus if you were writing the script and this was just a movie would you give president trump
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coronavirus yes yes you would because that's what would make the story extra you know interesting
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as sad as it is and tragic extra interesting but what would make it extra interesting from this point
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on now i'm going to give you some some uh ideas of what that could involve but this is very important
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before i talk about this i want you to understand i'm not wishing for any of this to happen very
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important i don't want anything that i'm going to describe to happen it just falls into the category of the most
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interesting thing that could happen don't want it to happen i'll say that in the middle and i'm going
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to say it at the end don't want any of this to happen seriously do not want any of this to happen
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all right now that you're primed you're all adults you can handle this thought right don't freak out
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and i wouldn't talk about this outside of this periscope too much if i were you it do me a favor
00:33:12.920
don't spread these ideas onto social media let's sort of sort of keep them here for for a while because
00:33:19.240
if you take a better context it'll it'll get ugly number one the best and when i say best i mean most
00:33:28.120
interesting not the one i want to happen the most 2020 like thing that could happen would be
00:33:35.320
biden gets coronavirus and doesn't survive obviously i don't want that to happen obviously
00:33:51.800
that's the way it would go because the moment biden got coronavirus it would make you say wait a minute
00:33:59.400
wait a minute the entire story has been that the people who didn't wear masks and didn't hide in
00:34:05.160
their basement many of them got coronavirus so that anecdotal bunch of stuff was my entire
00:34:13.080
impression of what's what the risk is you're telling me that biden mr mask hide in my basement
00:34:20.920
do everything right you tell me he got it now again it wouldn't mean anything in terms of your
00:34:27.640
understanding of how risky it is etc it shouldn't mean anything because it would just be one data point
00:34:33.080
anecdotal but it would it would change how you think about it all right so that's one possibility
00:34:41.640
here's another possibility again don't want this to happen really really don't want this to happen
00:34:48.840
and it goes like this president trump takes a turn for the worse i don't think that's going to happen
00:34:55.160
very unlikely but you know in terms of scripts he takes a turn for the worst and it gets so bad
00:35:03.800
that you could argue that he was momentarily dead and brought back what would happen under the unusual
00:35:14.680
situation that president trump became so ill that he was technically dead and brought back
00:35:22.840
back jesus it would be an actual literal not not literal but a resurrection story
00:35:36.680
it you know unlikely very unlikely that things would get to that point i don't even think that's the
00:35:43.160
thing with corona coronavirus patients i don't know if there's any case where that's ever happened
00:35:48.840
that they were technically dead and brought back to life it's probably never happened but again if it
00:35:56.440
were a story that's sort of where the plot might go don't want that to happen don't want that to happen
00:36:04.120
don't even want to put it into the universe we don't want that to happen there's one more
00:36:09.240
more that is so it's so awful i almost don't want to mention it except in the context of telling you how this
00:36:21.240
script idea works there is one outcome don't want it to happen don't want it to happen
00:36:28.280
but in a 2020 world it could happen and it goes like this president trump gives the coronavirus to
00:36:40.920
kellyann conway who gives it to george conway who if i may be unkind
00:36:49.880
has a physical uh look of someone who would have a tough time surviving coronavirus
00:36:55.720
right it's a it's an ugly thought i'm not even going to complete it you can you can complete it
00:37:02.040
yourself but that's one of the possibilities that george conway has a tough time with it and it came from the president
00:37:12.600
right again you don't want that to happen you know you don't want you don't want your your
00:37:18.360
enemies to get coronavirus certainly not political enemies that's that's just dumb um
00:37:26.280
but it's 2020 along those same lines there are two people that i'm uh in addition to george conway
00:37:34.920
that i am quite concerned about so i would say these three people just raise a little flag of concern for
00:37:42.280
me and i would you know i'm not going to be political about this i would be concerned equally about
00:37:47.240
all of them bill barr chris christie and george conway they are three people who have been close
00:37:56.120
to exposed people and they have a little they've got a little extra weight on them and they're uh you
00:38:03.960
know i would be a little extra concerned about those three and if anything happens to any of the three it's
00:38:09.880
just going to be extra tragic all right um here's a question i have for you um
00:38:19.800
shouldn't we know by now if masks work now i get that all of the the experts not all the experts that
00:38:28.600
the uh consensus of experts is that masks not only work but they're vital to getting to the other side of
00:38:36.120
the coronavirus but here's what i i wonder don't we know by now uh lots and lots of people who got
00:38:44.440
coronavirus don't we know whether or not they wore masks or were around other people who wore masks
00:38:52.440
shouldn't we know by now by talking to all the people who have got coronavirus
00:38:56.520
were they in a mask intensive environment or a mask permissive environment wouldn't that be just
00:39:05.160
about the easiest thing to track at this point because you just talk to the patient and say did
00:39:10.520
you have coronavirus yes would you self-report that you have consistently been in a very mask
00:39:18.440
intensive environment where both you and the people around you were being pretty dedicated about
00:39:25.240
wearing masks yes or no scale of one to ten how masked up were you and socially distanced shouldn't
00:39:33.480
we know by now exactly how effective masks are and the fact that we're even talking about it is just
00:39:43.400
making me think there's some kind of mass incompetence that's going on in in the system in general not
00:39:50.040
just the politics uh i don't know maybe that information is out there somebody says there's
00:39:57.880
not a consensus no you're wrong you're wrong there is absolutely a consensus it is not universal a
00:40:06.920
consensus means that the majority of people agree consensus doesn't mean that there are not notable
00:40:13.000
critics who make a lot of noise i will acknowledge there are notable critics and i will acknowledge
00:40:18.920
that i'm not convinced that i've seen hard data that says that masks are working in this coronavirus
00:40:27.800
i think they are i would say that the smart money says yes i would think that common sense says yes
00:40:34.360
yes i would think our experience from the pandemic in 1918 tells us they work i would think the fact
00:40:41.560
that every single country is using masks if they have a coronavirus problem all of them you know all
00:40:48.520
the experts in all the countries seem to agree that masks work so i'm going to say if you were going to
00:40:54.040
place a bet you know scott you've got to put your money on masks work or they don't i would place a very
00:41:01.080
large bet on that they do work now they may have their trade-offs i wouldn't argue that but i would
00:41:08.280
certainly put a very large bet on they do work speaking of things like that um the president it is
00:41:18.840
reported is let's see he's on regeneron vitamin d uh zinc now remdesivir and i saw speculation
00:41:30.920
from the doctor that he was almost certainly on convalescent serum now what is what is the impact
00:41:38.920
of doing all those things at once i don't know i don't know if anybody's done all those things at
00:41:45.160
once um putting the president on remdesivir which my understanding is is not a hundred percent safe
00:41:54.920
but rather you would want to save that for somebody who's who's looking like they have some real problems
00:42:01.400
what does the fact that the president's getting remdesivir at this stage tell you about the
00:42:06.760
seriousness of his infection i think it's telling us one of two things either the president is being
00:42:16.360
treated as a special case meaning they're treating him more aggressively than they would somebody who has
00:42:23.480
the same amount of symptoms which would make sense that wouldn't be the dumbest thing in the world but
00:42:28.920
remdesivir is my understanding is it doesn't have any impact if you're at the lightly infected stage
00:42:38.280
correct me if i'm wrong i need a fact check but isn't remdesivir
00:42:43.560
understood to be something you would only give to somebody who's in pretty bad shape
00:42:48.200
because at that point the the little bit of risk that comes with it is worth it right
00:42:56.680
i think the melatonin was just for sleeping um somebody's saying in the comments so here's the
00:43:04.600
weird thing about this cocktail that the president's getting there are a few weird things number one it
00:43:11.400
seems like he's taking every drug that's ever been mentioned in a sentence with coronavirus except
00:43:18.440
hydroxychloroquine what are the odds that the white house doctors knowing that hydroxychloroquine
00:43:27.880
has a very safe profile and knowing that the that the president would probably have a bias toward giving
00:43:35.880
it a try if it were not dangerous and maybe it would work what are the odds that they would not
00:43:44.120
prescribe hydroxychloroquine it's a little weird isn't it because even if you thought the doctor said now
00:43:51.720
we're not convinced it works the studies are a little ambiguous you know why bother maybe but even
00:43:58.920
if it was in the gray area for perfectly political reasons don't you think they'd say you know we
00:44:05.400
don't think it makes any difference but it probably won't hurt you do you want to take some hydroxychloroquine
00:44:11.800
because i feel like the president could have a uh enough influence on that that he could just say
00:44:18.200
look if you don't think it's going to hurt me i'd like to take some just for political reasons you
00:44:23.480
you know just just to be consistent so for the first thing i'd ask is maybe he is taking it or
00:44:30.840
maybe he was on it prior to even being diagnosed so i think there's more to learn about that but
00:44:38.840
interestingly he is taking zinc and as you remember the zelensky protocol as it was called
00:44:46.520
required zinc as as well as azithromycin and by the way i haven't heard he's taking azithromycin
00:44:53.000
so they're silent on that so far but maybe maybe the reason that the uh that we think hydroxychloroquine
00:45:03.880
works is that it was used with zinc enough times that maybe it was the zinc that worked maybe who knows
00:45:13.720
but apparently the doctors are convinced enough that zinc won't hurt you and might help that they're
00:45:18.680
giving it to him that's interesting um a little behind the scenes information for you so you all
00:45:27.320
know of dr zelensky and the zelensky protocol which was hydroxychloroquine zinc and azithromycin
00:45:35.400
given early at first symptoms um i will tell you that the doctor has dm'd me a few times two or three
00:45:43.720
times and i haven't responded and he's dm'd me looking for me to um boost you know boost his
00:45:52.280
message about the hydroxychloroquine i have uh declined to do that because i'm not convinced
00:46:01.800
that it's real and i don't think cartoonists should be boosting signals of things
00:46:07.400
uh for doctors i feel as though it would somehow give it more credibility than the story by itself
00:46:16.200
would have now my last estimate prior to this week and i've lowered it over time is that i started with
00:46:25.240
something like a 50 chance i don't know if it was higher it might have been uh early on a 50 chance
00:46:31.640
the hydroxychloroquine might be real and might work and that was based on the fact that there were
00:46:37.160
lots of reports that it was working so that's good but they weren't quite the you know the randomized
00:46:44.280
controlled types and it seemed to me that if it worked the way people said that it would be obvious
00:46:52.840
by now and that it would be in widespread use all over the world there would be more use not less
00:46:58.520
we'd hear more about it not less if it worked now every month that goes by and you don't hear a
00:47:05.400
story like that oh we just discovered it totally works it's being widespread used in elonia and now
00:47:11.960
we're all going to use it every month you don't hear that story lowered my odds that it's working so
00:47:18.520
last week it was a 30 chance meaning there was a 70 chance this is just scott's own personal uh estimate
00:47:27.880
70 percent chance the hydroxychloroquine didn't make a difference 30 chance it did still based on
00:47:34.840
so many anecdotal or not anecdotal but observational studies etc today if it's true that the president is
00:47:43.720
not taking it if that's true we'll wait for that confirmation probably is uh i would take it down to
00:47:52.680
closer to five or ten percent yeah maybe uh i'll go generous 15 percent one five so i think the odds of
00:48:01.720
hydroxychloroquine being a game changer 15 percent one five that's my current estimate subject to
00:48:11.160
adjustment should it ever be needed now the president's also taking vitamin d i would like to
00:48:18.040
um note that it is entirely possible that the very person first person you ever heard
00:48:27.080
say take vitamin d for the coronavirus might have been me because when it first came out i was telling
00:48:34.200
you get in the sun get your vitamin d up because at the very least it's good for your immune system
00:48:39.640
and now there's there seems to be more and more evidence that that's true
00:48:42.920
so if you'd listen to me what good shape you'd be in um so it turns out that the most dangerous
00:48:53.320
job in the world is trump campaign manager do you remember when cory lewandowski was the campaign manager
00:49:01.160
and he got falsely accused of uh aggressively grabbing some woman uh grabbing her arm not not
00:49:10.280
sexually grabbing her and that turned out to be you know fake news but that was pretty tough to be a
00:49:16.440
campaign manager he was replaced by paul manafort who ended up going to jail for unrelated you know
00:49:23.640
crimes unrelated to the campaign then there was brad parscale who recently got involuntarily committed
00:49:31.000
to a hospital after losing his job who knows what's going on there and now bill stepion
00:49:36.760
gets a diagnosis of coronavirus so if you ever had to pick a job that was going to be dangerous
00:49:47.400
yeah if you were going to pick something dangerous it would be that job all right
00:49:55.560
so here's a question that i've been asking for a long time
00:49:58.920
we keep hearing in the news and we're hearing it from both the left and the right sometimes so uh
00:50:07.480
so fbi director ray has said this you kind of feel like he's on the right a little bit
00:50:14.760
or somewhat and uh on the left says that and they say that the biggest uh problem with domestic
00:50:22.360
terrorism is white supremacy now i keep hearing it but i'm trying to connect in my mind why is it that
00:50:30.440
literally every night literally every night i hear about antifa and left-leaning
00:50:37.720
you know people burning things and getting hurt and attacking people and killing people
00:50:41.960
so i'm hearing every night stories about the left and domestic terrorism but i'm not hearing stories
00:50:48.920
about the right and yet the fbi and other important entities are saying the big problem is white
00:50:56.280
supremacy now i'm not doubting it's true so as of today i would say i'm not doubting it's true
00:51:03.800
because there are a lot of people saying it's true but why is it that i'm not hearing about it
00:51:10.520
and i would like to give you a story to prime you before i tell you the rest of my story about
00:51:15.880
uh my search for all of the white supremacy statistics years ago when i was working for
00:51:23.960
pacific bell the local phone company where i lived i had a project to build a laboratory within within
00:51:32.440
the headquarters where we would test our technology our new digital technology for the phone network
00:51:39.640
and we would use the laboratory for customers who wanted to make a buying decision but they
00:51:45.800
needed to test our equipment with their equipment to make sure it worked and i was told by my boss
00:51:52.360
that we just keep getting all these requests from customers and if lots of customers are requesting
00:52:00.040
a laboratory to test the equipment it follows that if we had a laboratory to test equipment we'd sell a
00:52:07.720
lot more equipment because if you could show the customer it works look you know i just hooked it up
00:52:13.240
here's your phone here's our network there it's working now you can feel safe buying it so i was
00:52:19.640
given the task to first build a business case to get the funding and then go ahead and you know be the
00:52:26.280
project manager to build the laboratory so i started out to build my business case by uh collecting data
00:52:34.360
about all of the customers who would ask for this laboratory because it was all based on customer demand
00:52:40.040
right it wasn't something we just sat around and came up with it was just purely responding
00:52:45.400
to this avalanche of customer demand so i would go to you know a manager who was in a relevant place
00:52:51.880
i'd say you know do we need this laboratory for customers and the manager would say yeah yeah we
00:52:58.120
totally need all the customers are asking for it it's high demand and i would say can you give me the
00:53:03.640
name of a customer who asked for it so i could actually talk to the customer and really you know
00:53:09.560
dig down and find out about this demand and the first manager would say well i you know i don't know
00:53:14.840
the name of a specific customer but the there are tons of them so maybe talk to this other manager and
00:53:20.760
he could give you a name of somebody to talk to talk to the next manager he goes yeah it's like the
00:53:26.120
customer demand they keep asking for it i go can you give the name of one customer he's like well
00:53:32.840
you know i can only think of one but why don't you talk to them and maybe we'll kick up some other
00:53:38.360
some other ones you can talk to so what i determined after a long analysis was this there was ever
00:53:47.960
only in the since the beginning of recorded time one customer who asked for it once that was it
00:53:58.520
one customer that asked for it once but because when that customer asked for it they asked probably
00:54:06.360
more than one person and then those people started talking to each other and then people heard about
00:54:11.880
it it became an entire story about a mass request for laboratory resources that literally didn't
00:54:20.600
exist didn't exist it was confirmed and i went back to everybody and said anybody accept this one
00:54:28.600
customer everybody said the same customer that's it and then i asked well what happened with that one
00:54:36.360
customer i assumed that they did not buy the product because they didn't have a lab and then
00:54:42.280
the managers told me oh no they bought the product so i said all right let me get this straight
00:54:49.400
the story that there were lots of customers really boiled down to just one and the reason we needed
00:54:56.920
a laboratory is that they wouldn't be able to buy without the laboratory and the one customer
00:55:02.760
actually bought anyway thus proving beyond a shadow of a doubt we don't need a laboratory
00:55:10.200
now once i presented that to my management do you think they said oh i'm glad you caught that we
00:55:16.040
could have wasted 10 million dollars which was the budget we could have wasted 10 million dollars
00:55:20.680
building a laboratory that nobody needed do you think that happened no no it didn't my my boss said
00:55:31.400
build it anyway make a case for it build it anyway in other words the reason had nothing to do with
00:55:38.040
the decision the data had nothing to do with the decision the logic none of it even revenue
00:55:46.040
none of it had anything to do with the decision i just had a boss who wanted to be the boss of a
00:55:50.840
laboratory because it would be good for his career i guess so so that was the story all right now take
00:55:58.520
that story and that's what i've learned because of my experience how this can get blown up and then
00:56:04.120
i'm looking at this white supremacy thing and i'm saying to myself it's kind of weird this the biggest
00:56:11.080
problem and yet i'm only hearing of these other problems but i don't hear a lot of examples of
00:56:17.560
this so i i go to do a little bit of research and when i say a little bit of research i mean just you know
00:56:23.320
you know one millimeter deep i'm not going to spend a lifetime doing it so i just google some stuff
00:56:29.400
about you know data on white supremacy and uh i i find this
00:56:34.040
um here it says that the threat posed by racially or ethnically motivated terrorism
00:56:42.360
particularly white supremacist terrorism remained a serious challenge for the global community
00:56:48.360
all right so what follows this should be some examples right and here they come
00:56:53.160
continuing a trend that began in 2015 all right so it's a trend so if it's a trend there'll be some
00:56:59.560
data to show the trend there were numerous deadly attacks well okay there are numerous of them so now
00:57:07.080
what will follow will be the list of them so i'll just see how numerous they are and so and it lists
00:57:12.440
three i go okay well it says they're numerous but there are three and there were uh let's see included
00:57:20.840
the christ church uh new zealand okay uh hallie germany holly hallie germany and el paso texas so the
00:57:31.720
first thing i said to myself is oh okay they're talking about worldwide and two under the three didn't
00:57:38.760
happen in the united states so really there's one it was the el paso texas where the guy went into a
00:57:48.360
uh walmart i guess and his complaint he had a manifesto about immigration and i think he shot a
00:57:55.320
bunch of uh presumably mostly targeted people who he thought were immigrants i'm guessing and so i thought
00:58:04.840
okay well that one all right so we have one example but it's real all right there's no question that this
00:58:12.280
guy was a massive white supremacist and i thought this will be obvious when you read his manifesto
00:58:19.400
because if you read the manifesto it's going to be pretty clear he's a white supremacist
00:58:25.240
so i read some of his manifesto he was anti-immigration because he thought immigration would turn the
00:58:33.240
country into democrats and the democratic system would destroy the country
00:58:38.360
do you know the part where he said i don't like immigration because the people coming across the
00:58:44.840
border are brown that wasn't in there or at least i didn't see it i did i read excerpts from it i would
00:58:52.040
think that they would have pulled that out if that was an excerpt but it turns out his real concern was
00:58:57.800
democrats literally it was about democrats now you could certainly make the argument that he's also a
00:59:06.840
racist but he didn't write that he he didn't write white people are awesome i don't want any brown people
00:59:16.120
he wrote that he didn't want democrats because they would ruin the system and we'd all die
00:59:21.160
under a democrat system basically i'm exaggerating so of the three that were listed of the so-called numerous
00:59:30.200
deadly attacks two of them were in other countries which doesn't make them less important
00:59:36.040
but it makes it less important to the united states and then the one that was listed
00:59:42.280
sort of a little bit of a gray area if you know what i mean now because this will be taken in a context
00:59:54.040
disavow and rebuke all white supremacists kkk racists white nationalists so i disavow all those
01:00:04.920
groups i'm just saying that i was sold the story about massive white supremacy problem and the three
01:00:12.680
examples given are two from other countries and one that doesn't look like it to me i get that it's a
01:00:19.800
gray area but these are your good examples so here's the question i have is it like the laboratory
01:00:28.600
story where there never really was a problem and and because of the telephone effect and somebody
01:00:34.840
talks to somebody and somebody's talking about a gray area and some things in other countries
01:00:39.720
and and and maybe there's more activity online could it be that massive online activity is
01:00:48.040
foreshadowing something that'll that is a really big problem but the actual violence has not been
01:00:54.440
big in terms of numbers is that possible i mean that would still be a major problem i would if somebody
01:01:02.680
described it to me that way and said scott you're not seeing the the big issue here it's not so much how
01:01:08.360
much has already happened it's it's that we can see it brewing very clearly number of people
01:01:14.840
associating with these groups is growing the the rhetoric is getting worse if that's the story i'll
01:01:22.120
say oh okay that's fair i don't want to i don't want to be seeing some big white supremacy movement
01:01:28.520
that's picking up steam in the united states i'd be quite concerned about that as as well you should be
01:01:34.600
but i don't know that that's a story is it the the the news business is so thoroughly broken
01:01:43.400
that you can't even tell if the biggest problem even exists think about that think about the fact that
01:01:51.480
you can't be sure even a little bit if the thing that your government and the fbi is telling you is the biggest
01:01:59.880
domestic terrorism concern you don't even know if it exists much less being your biggest concern
01:02:09.240
you can't even tell now common sense tells me there must be you know plenty of examples there must be
01:02:17.720
but why doesn't the news have a list for me that's handy that i can say now if so by the way if somebody
01:02:23.560
has a more complete list of white supremacist um events in this country i want to see the list of
01:02:32.120
this country uh could you dm that to me or tweet it at me because i don't want to be the guy who says
01:02:39.080
it doesn't exist i want to be the guy who says why isn't the news telling me where it is i'd like to know
01:02:47.480
more about it okay um i'm just looking at your comments now all right i think that's all i got